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    Default The Car Seat Thread - Vol VII

    Time for a new thread! Previous volume can be found here.

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    When is it time for a new car seat?
    (This is a general list - rules for your seat may be different. Always read your owner's manual!)
    • Your child is too big for the infant carrier when a) they reach the weight limit or b) the top of his/her head is within 1 inch of the top of the car seat.
    • Your child is too big to rear-face (RF) in their convertible seat when a) they reach the RF weight limit, or b) the top of their head reaches the top of the seat.
    • Your child is too big for the convertible seat (forward facing) when a) they reach the weight limit or b) the tops of his/her ears reach the top of the seat or c) his/her shoulders are at the level of the highest strap slots


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    Links:

    Car seat inspections
    Car Seat Inspection Stations - click on "Find a technician"
    Get your seat inspected!!!! 90% of car seats are incorrectly installed! An incorrectly installed seat is not safe! Even if you think you did it right, GET IT INSPECTED!!!


    The Basics
    Of Rear Facing Seats
    Of Forward Facing Seats
    Of Booster Seats

    Extended Rear Facing Links
    Rear Facing - Unmatched Safety (lots of links at the bottom of this page)
    Why Rear Facing is Safest
    Why Babies MUST Ride Rear Facing
    Rear Facing Photo Album
    Kyle David Miller Foundation - Rear Facing Is Safest

    What to Buy
    Infant Seats
    Convertible Seats
    Combo Seats
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    Women are angels, and when someone breaks our wings
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    Car Seat Manufacturers

    Britax
    Graco
    Cosco
    Combi
    Evenflo Infant Seats
    Evenflo Convertible Seats
    Evenflo Booster Seats
    BabyTrend
    Safeguard
    Sunshine Kids
    Fisher Price


    For other information on any of these seats, try the Baby Bargains Message Board. There are real car seat experts there (including CPS techs!) that may be able to give you the information you need about a specific seat if no one here can help.
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    Women are angels, and when someone breaks our wings
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    Car Seat Compatibilty Database


    Car Seat Info for Canada


    Options for a 5 Point Harness past 40 lbs
    Kyle David Miller Foundation - Why a 5 point harness is safest

    Britax Marathon
    Britax Regent
    Britax Decathlon
    Britax Boulevard

    Cosco Apex 65

    SafeGuard Child Seat

    Sunshine Kids Radian

    Fisher Price Safe Voyage (to 55 lbs) (made by Britax for FP)

    Recaro Como
    Recaro Signo

    Evenflo Triumph Advance
    Evenflo Titan Elite

    Graco Nautilus - Harness to 65 lbs, booster to 100

    Compass True Fit (not yet available)

    Children in Harnessed Seats Past 40 lbs Photo Album


    Highest Slot heights for various car seats:
    Roundabout - 15.5"
    Safeguard Seat - 19.5"
    Triumph Advance - 17"
    Radian (65 or 80) - 18" (manufacturer allows continued use with the shoulders up to 1" over the top slots)
    Marathon - 17.5 inches
    Apex65 - 17 inches
    Graco Nautilus - 18 inches
    Regent - 20 inches


    If you are about to purchase a car seat and would like to assist a good cause at the same time, please consider purchasing from http://www.hipmonkey.com. This website is the sister site to the Kyle David Miller Foundation (http://www.kyledavidmiller.org) who donate car seats to families in need. Besides car seats by Britax, Sunshine Kids, Recaro and SafeSeat, the site also has other child care items - e.g. slings, diaper bags, nursing covers etc. ALL profits from the sale of ALL items go directly to the foundation
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    The links above have this information, but I thought I'd post some snippets about extended rear facing. Your baby MUST rear face until they are 20 lbs AND 1 year old. However, most convertible seats let you RF until 30 lbs or more. Rear Facing is the SAFEST position for your child.

    Rear-facing is the safest position the child can ride in. It is recommended that all children stay rear-facing beyond the minimal requirements of 1 year and 20 lbs, and not be turned forward-facing before they reach the maximum rear-facing limits of a convertible seat - either the maximum rear-facing weight limit or when the top of their head is within one inch of the top of the seat shell. While most parents are aware that they must keep their children rear-facing "until they are AT LEAST 1 year old AND 20 lbs", very few are told that there are significant safety benefits when a child remains rear-facing as long as the seat allows. For most children, rear-facing can and should continue well into the second year of life.
    In a forward-facing seat, there is tremendous stress put on the child's neck, which must hold the large head back. The mass of the head of a small child is about 25% of the body mass whereas the mass of the adult head is only 6%! A small child's neck sustains massive amounts of force in a crash. The body is held back by the straps while the head is thrown forward - stressing, stretching or even breaking the spinal cord. The child's head is at greater risk in a forward-facing seat as well. In a crash, the head is thrown outside the confines of the seat and can make dangerous contact with other occupants, vehicle structures, and even intruding objects, like trees or other vehicles.

    Rear-facing seats do a phenomenal job of protecting children because there is little or no force applied to the vulnerable areas. In a rear-facing seat, the head, neck and spine are all kept fully aligned and the child is allowed to "ride down" the crash while the back of the child restraint absorbs the bulk of the crash force. The head is contained within the restraint, and the child is much less likely to come into contact with anything that might cause head injury.
    Many parents have the misconception that children are uncomfortable or at risk for leg injury by having their legs up on the vehicle seat or bent when kept rear-facing. These concepts are completely incorrect. First, children are more flexible than adults so what we perceive as uncomfortable is not so much so for the children. Second, there is not a single documented case of children's legs, hips, etc. breaking in a crash due to longer rear-facing. Even if a leg were broken, it can easily be fixed. A damaged spinal cord (from forward-facing too soon) cannot be repaired and subjects the child to lifelong disability or death.

    Any expert will tell you that rear-facing is DEFINITELY safer. The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) says that rear-facing seats are 71% safer than nothing and FF seats are 54% safer than nothing. Other experts say that "Crash studies have shown that, in a front-end collision, injury rate is reduced by 30 to 60% if a passenger is rear facing rather than front facing."
    Many parents think turning the car seat to forward facing is a rite of passage for children when they turn one. Please, don't be in any rush to turn your child! Unless you have a significant reason to turn your child, keep them rear facing as long as you can. It's so much safer! (ok, done with my PSA!)
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    Women are angels, and when someone breaks our wings
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    Does anyone know if that Diono - Radian R120 Convertible Car Seat is the 'new' version of the Sunshine Radian XLST? We have that one for our 3 year old and have no complaints about it, but the baby needs a seat and a 10 year shelf life, converts to a booster and such all make that one sound really up our alley. Anyone have an input?
    My three sons :DS age 7 and DS age 4, DS age 2

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    Lady1297, I don't have any idea. I hope someone else can help you.

    I came with my own question. Does anyone have experience with Ford Escape size SUVs and car seats? We're going on a road trip and we have a Prius with a Britax Regency (i think?) and a Graco Snugride. There's about six inches left between them. When we get to our destination, I'd really like to have room for an additional passenger so was thinking of renting a SUV or MiniVan and the SUV is much cheaper. But if I put the Britax and Graco in a Ford Escape, will there be room for anyone else to sit back there or is it just going to be another couple of inches than the Prius?

    Any help is appreciated.
    Jenn...and Bill (5/25/03)
    ...and Natalie (10/10/07)
    ...and Oliver (11/12/12)

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    I googled "back seat width" for each model and came up with rear hip room of 49.1" in the Escape and 51.2" in the Prius. So it looks like the seat on your Prius is roomier than an Escape. You likely won't get another person back there with those 2 seats next to each other in any vehicle.
    DD Feb '08
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    DD Jan '15

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