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    Default Cloth Diapering - vol 5!

    Here is a link to the old thread

    If you are cloth diapering your baby or interested in starting, you've got good company here!

    Cloth diapering is a great way to help protect the environment from excess trash, save some money (or spend a lot of it in some cases), make your baby happy without paper and chemicals on it's bottom, and cover said bottom with some of the cutest stuff you've ever seen. It can be confusing to start, but some of us have gotten the hang of it... heck, even becoming nearly addicted to it... and we're here to help.

    We've put together some resources to help you in starting out. The sheer volume of information on CD'ing out there can be overwhelming, so this is our attempt at condensing a lot of info into smaller, digestible portions. Once you've got the basics down, it becomes much easier to understand when someone wants to know if you stuff your HH's with a JB or a CPF.

    So dive right in! If you have a question, please ask. Forgive us if we spend as much time showing off our new diapers as we do talking about what works best for nighttime diapering. CD'ing is more fun than any of us imagined it would be, and this thread may be the only place where other people actually understand that rather than thinking we're crazy!

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    A brief introduction to cloth diapers...

    Most cloth diapers consist of 2 parts: the diaper (also sometimes called a soaker) and a waterproof cover (also sometimes called a wrap).

    *All pro/con info nickisdiapers.com*

    Diapers

    Pre-Folds
    CPFs or Chinese Prefolds: the flat diaper that comes to mind when you think of cloth diapering. These diapers come in bleached, unbleached, hemp, and organic cotton. To use them, they can either be folded in thirds and laid in a well-fitting cover, or they can be pinned or Snappi'd (a closure device) around the baby. These run about $2 each.

    Pros
    Most inexpensive cloth diapering option
    Fastest drying
    No need for as many different sizes
    Versatile - can be used for other functions such as inserts/doublers, burp clothes, rags, etc.
    Cons
    Requires a diaper cover or diaper wrap
    Requires some folding (may require some practice)


    Fitteds
    Fitted Diapers serve the same purpose as CPF's, but you don't have to fold them around the baby. They close with either snaps or velcro, and have elastic around the legs to help keep in poops. You will still need a cover with these. Fitteds run anywhere from $6 on up to crazy amounts for the in-demand ones.

    Pros
    Still Convenient yet less expensive than All In One diaper
    Easy to use
    Very absorbent - great when used as a nighttime cloth diaper
    Cons
    Requires a diaper cover / diaper wrap
    Usually takes longer to dry then a Chinese prefold diaper but dries faster than an All In One diaper (AIO)
    Examples:
    Kissaluvs

    Contoured Diapers are similar to fitteds, but are flat like CPFs. Some may still need to be secured with pins or a Snappi.

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    Covers

    Used over Chinese prefold diapers and fitted diapers to waterproof. Diaper covers wrap around baby and secures with Velcro for easy use (no more pins!). Each diaper cover can be used several times without washing if allowed to air dry between uses. Covers or wraps go over the diaper to keep the clothes (and you) dry. Covers can be made out of several different materials, and range in price from $4.50 for Proraps seconds to very expensive custom wool covers.

    PUL or Polyester Urethane Laminate is a fabric with a waterproofing laminate applied to it.

    Examples:

    Bummis

    Bumkins

    Prorap

    Wiggle Worm Bottoms

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    Fleece

    Fleece has many uses in diapering. As a cover, it keeps moisture inside the soaker. Fleece is 100% polyester, which means it is not absorbent. It breathes, like wool and let's air through but resists the moisture from coming out.

    Example:
    Sugar Peas


    Stacinator Deluxe


    Wool

    Aristocrats Wool Knit

    LovelyBums

    Cranky Pants Shorties

    Llamajama Handknit Wool Longies

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    Pockets

    Pocket diapers are a unique kind of system. They consist of a cover connected to a soft liner, with a pocket between for stuffing with a soaker (either a CPF or other insert). They are open in the back for inserting and removing the soaker. They are popular for nighttime diapering because they can absorb a lot (depending on what they are stuffed with) and the liner keeps the baby feeling dry. These are about $15-$17

    Pros:
    Fast drying
    Gives a very trim fit
    Most like an all-in-one diaper making it convenient

    Cons:
    Pocket diaper cover needs to be washed after every use
    Requires simple folding of Chinese prefold diaper before inserting into pocket diaper cover unless you use a specially designed insert
    Need to "stuff" each pocket diaper cover with Chinese prefold diaper or specially designed insert

    Examples:
    Fuzzi Bunz

    Happy Heiny

    bumGenius! one-size

    Snap-Ez

    Fuzzi Fannies

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    AIOs (All-In-Ones)

    AIO diapers have an inner absorbent layer attached to an outer waterproof layer with adjustable closures (either Velcro� or snaps). All-in-one diapers are just like disposable diapers except you wash them! AIO's run from $10 to $20 each, and more for the in-demand ones.

    Pros:
    Most convenient
    Easiest to use
    Most like disposables diapers (trimmest fit on baby's butt)

    Cons:
    One of the most expensive options
    Usually takes the longest to dry (drying time varies greatly between brands)

    Examples:
    Bum-Ware

    Very Baby

    Jamtots Berry Plush

    Daisy Doodles Bikini Bottoms

    BumGenius

    Thirsties

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    Accessories

    Doublers
    Used to increase the absorbancy of a diaper. They are simply laid into the main part of the diaper. Assorted examples:




    Liners
    can serve 2 purposes. They can be laid in a diaper to keep moisture away from the baby (these are usually made of microfleece), or they can be laid in the diaper to catch poop and help to easily remove it from the diaper.
    Example: Imse Vimse Flushable Diaper Liners,


    Snappis or Pins are used to close contours and CPFs.
    Snappi


    Pail Liners
    Examples:
    NappSacks
    Snap-Ez,
    Wahmies


    Wet Bags
    Examples:
    Wahmies
    Goodmamas
    Bummis


    Wipes Solution
    Examples:
    Baby Bits
    Dixie Dots
    Monkey Doodlez

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    Cloth Diapering Links

    Informational Sites:
    www.diaperpin.com
    http://www.thediaperhyena.com/
    http://www.diaperpages.com/ a very smart CDing momma!!

    Diaper Reviews:

    www.diaperpin.com/diapers/diaperpages.asp

    Favorite CD sites:
    www.ababyssmile.com
    www.breesbums.com
    www.naturalbabies.com
    www.babiesinthesun.com
    www.nickisdiapers.com
    www.kellyscloset.com
    www.kissaluvs.com/outlet.htm for Kissaluvs seconds
    www.fullmoonbabygear.com
    www.hyenacart.com WAHM store, hundreds of stores!
    www.thatfatbaby.com/wahmlinks.html for a list of WAHM sites
    www.apronstringsbabythings.com/
    www.sweetcheeksdiapers.com
    www.borntolove.com/catalog.html
    www.jardinediapers.com
    www.earthybirthymama.com
    www.benjamuffins.com Great fitteds!
    www.nanipoos.com More great fitteds!
    www.growmearainbow.com for custom prefolds!

    www.funkygiraffe.com Cute wipes!
    www.happytushies.com Wet bags for on the go.

    Message Board & Great place to buy used
    www.diaperswappers.com
    www.diapertraders.com

    Sites for sewing your own diapers:
    www.sewshoppe.com/
    www.diapershop.com/
    www.diaperfabric.com/
    www.diapersewing.com/
    www.diapersewing.com/prefold_to_fitted.htm

    Sites for knitting/crocheting your own wool soakers
    www.littleturtleknits.com
    www.holysheepyarns.com
    www.diaperpages.com

    CLOTH DIAPERING ABBREVIATIONS
    General Diaper Abreviations...

    AIO: All In One Diaper (absorbant and waterproof layers)
    APLIX: brand of hook and loop, similar to velcro
    CD: Cloth Diaper, of course!
    AIO: All-in-one diaper, doesn't need a cover
    CPF: Chinese Pre-Fold
    DSQ: Diaper Service Quality (a term for a high-quality prefold)
    IPF: Indian Prefold
    OS: One Size
    PUL: Polyurethane Laminate
    SC: Suedecloth (stay dry inner fabric)
    TTO: Tea Tree Oil
    UBCPF: Unbleached Chinese Prefolds
    WAHM: Work at home mom, makers of cute homemade diapers

    Specific Diaper Abbreviations...

    BSWW: Bummis Super Whisper Wrap
    CRAT: Aristocrat
    FB: Fuzzi Bunz
    GAD: Green Acre Designs
    FF: Fuzzi Fannies
    HH: Happy Heiny's
    JB: Joey Bunz
    ME: Motherease
    MOE: Mother of Eden (maker of FB's)
    WWB: Wiggle Worm Bottoms
    SOS: Susie's One Size
    BGOS: BumGenius One Size
    BGAIO: BumGenius All-in-One
    BGBF: BumGenius Bamboo Fitted

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    Getting Started - What Do I Need?

    The first thing you need to do is decide how often you want to wash diapers. Most people wash them every 3-4 days, or about twice a week. The next thing you have to decide is what types of diapers you want to use and what brands you want to use. Because different types and different brands work best for different babies, a good idea would be to buy a few samples of diapers and covers and try them. Once you decide which you like best, you can buy more of your favorites. You can sell the ones you don't like on eBay or trade with other CD'ing moms.

    When you baby is small (birth-4 months), you'll be changing diapers about 8-12 times per day. Older babies need fewer changes.

    2-4 dozen diapers - these can be CPF's, fitteds, contours, AIOs, whatever you like best for your baby. The number of diapers depends on how often you want to launder them. If you're going with CPFs, 4x8x4 infant size or a mix of preemie and infant sizes are recommended for newborns. By about 4 months you may need some premium size CPFs.
    4-6 covers

    Really, that's it! You can successfully cloth diaper your little one with just what's listed above. Here are some extras that make diapering easier:

    Accessories

    A few doublers (more for heavy wetters and older babies) - you'll see if you really need them when the baby gets here. Preemie or infant size CPFs make great doublers.
    Pins and/or Snappis if you're using CPFs
    Microfleece liners to keep baby feeling dry. You can buy these premade, or purchase some microfleece at your local fabric store and cut them out yourself.
    Cloth wipes - again, you can buy these premade or make them yourself out of baby washcloths or cut up flannel receiving blankets.
    Diaper pail - any pail really, from the Diaper Champ to a garbage pail with a lid.
    Washable wet bag - to line the diaper pail with.

    How do I know what works best?

    "Fitteds or AIOs? Prefolds or fitteds? Wool or Fleece??" There is no right or wrong answer to these questions. What might be the holy grail of cloth diapers for one mom may not work for you. Choosing a diapering system depends heavily on your baby's needs & your own personal preference. Don't feel the need to buy the perfect system right off the bat - part of the fun of cloth diapering is sampling all of the many choices!

    Buy an AIO, buy a pocket style diaper, buy a few fitteds, sample some wool covers, try some PUL wraps. Try making some of every kind if you have a sewing machine. Keep what you love & get more. Sell or trade what doesn't work for you. Some people exclusively use one system. Some of us like to have a wide variety. Dive in and find out what works for you.

    Cost

    The cheapest way to cloth diaper is to use CPFs and covers. Don't be afraid to try CPFs, many moms LOVE them. They dry quickly, rival the most absorbant fitted, they're very trim, and they're cheap too. AIO's are great for going out and babysitters, so you may want to get a couple of these just to have around.

    A good cost calculator for cloth diapering can be found here:

    www.diaperpin.com/calculator/calculator.asp

    For more info on getting started, see these links:

    www.diapershop.com/howmany.htm
    http://www.punkinbutt.com/cloth_diap....asp#how_many?

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    Laundering & Care Instructions
    Always make sure to check the manufactures instructions as incorrect washing can void your warrenty

    After You Change Your Baby
    - if it's wet, just toss it in your can.
    - if it's a "creamy" poo (like bf poo), you may opt to toss it in your can, or you may rinse it.
    - if it's a harder poo, and can be shaken off into the toilet, do so (works well with fleece lined diapers, or with a liner).
    - if you can't shake it off, you should rinse.

    To rinse, just fold the diaper in a way that you feel you can hold it and rinse it (without getting yourself too mucky), by swirling it in the toilet. You can also purchase a mini-shower, which attaches to the plumbing of the toilet and makes rinsing easy as well.

    Make your own wipes solution.

    To Store the Dirty Diapers
    You can store them in a wet pail or a dry pail.
    - In a wet pail, you may wish to change to the water each day. You can use any plastic container that has a lid, or your washing machine, or perhaps utility tub, if you wish.
    - In a dry pail, line the container with a bag, either disposable or laminate/plastic (can purchase from many CD retailers). You can use any can with a lid, or a diaper can like the Diaper Champ or the Diaper Dekor.

    Storing on the Go
    It's just as easy to use CDs out and about! Keep a ziploc bag in your dipaer bag for storing dirties on the go. Or for a more earth friendly option, invest in a small washable wet bag. When you get home, add the dirties to your pail and your done!

    Make your own deodorant disks.

    Washing the Diapers
    There are a lot of different ways of doing this, you'll eventually find what works best for you.

    - Cold Soak (optional, and not necessary if you have a wet pail) - Soak the diapers, to help remove, or minimize stains.

    - Cold Wash (optional) - Wash the diapers to help remove/minimize stains. You may wish to add a scoop of an oxygen bleach (like Oxyclean), and 1/2 to 1 scoop of detergent.

    - Hot Wash (recommended) - Wash the diapers in hottest water, on the longest setting with 1/2 to 1 cup of detergent. Choose a cold water rinse. The amount of detergent will depend on your water and your washing machine, you just have to experiment. In general, use as little as you think does the job. You could also choose to add vinegar in the rinse cycle (a Downy ball works great!).

    - Dry the diapers in the dryer on a regular setting. You may wish to hang laminates/PULs, to prolong the life of the plastic. You may also find that hanging diapers to dry in the sun works great, as it can remove stains.

    Suggested Detergents
    Detergent Chart
    -Allens Naturally
    -Charlies Soap (this detergent has been known to cause burns on some babies, if a water blister like rash appears discontinue use)
    -Sun Free
    -Surf
    Avoid scented detergents or those with fabric softener included.
    Avoid fabric softener, it interferes with absorbtion.
    Avoid chlorine bleach.

    Fleece Diapers - can get linty if you wash them with your CPFs and such. You may wish to wash them seperately.



    Wool Cover Care
    Instructions vary for each manufacturer, but in general, you can wash wool covers in your machine.

    - wash the covers in cold water (or lukewarm) and add a lid of Eucalan Wool Wash. Let them soak for about 30 minutes, then run a gentle cycle. Stop the cycle before the rinse and hang them to dry.

    - You can hand wash them as well, if you just have a couple to do. Fill a sink with cool water, add the Eucalan, put in the covers and let them soak. Swirl them around and roll them in a towel to soak up extra water. Hang to dry.

    - Do not use Woolite, as it will strip the lanolin from the dipe. Some moms use shampoo or a mild cleanser, but Eucalan has lanolin in it and will help the repelency of your dipes.

    Re-lanolizing a Wool Cover

    There are several ways to do this, here is one example.
    Use 1/2-1 teaspoon liquid lanolin in a sink full of room temp./slightly warm water with a drop or two of baby shampoo to help it disperse. Let cover soak as long as desired, but not until the water gets cold. Drain water so it all gets pull through the wool. Roll in a towel to remove excess water. Lay flat to dry.

    Stripping Stinky Dipes

    Janamke's process (lots out there, check mothering.com for more)

    Start with clean diapers (don't have to be dry, just no poops). Turn your hot water heater up as HOT is it will go, this will help:

    A normal wash routine, only using Calgon water softener per box directions (I think it's 1 cup). Yes it smells, but they say it's ok. Don't need to dry after the wash.

    Then with just the cloth pieces (nothing with PUL) soak and prewash cycles with 1/2 cup bleach. If you don�t have soak cycle, just turn your machine off mid-cycle and let is sit for about 20 minutes. For the prewash, just do the shortest possible wash cycle.

    Then run the dipes through several wash cycles without detergent, just calgon until there are no more bubbles in the wash water. Usually 3 or 4 cycles.

    For PUL stuff that smelled (FB, covers, etc.), use 1/4 cup bleach, a soak, a prewash and 2 wash cycles.

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    Diaper Rash Information


    TWO MAIN FACTORS

    Diarrhea has been found to be the cause of diaper rash in 70-80% of cases. Liquid stool spreads over a wide area and is very irritating to the skin

    Infrequent diaper changes make it difficult for the skin to protect itself from the many causes of irritation in the diaper area, including diarrhea and others listed below. Frequent changes will minimize the effects of all irritants.

    OTHER FACTORS & TYPES OF RASH

    Prolonged and/or frequent exposure to feces can cause rash. The mixture of urine and feces produces ammonia (high pH), which increases fecal enzyme activity, making the skin more susceptible to damage.

    Hydration of skin � Urine alone does not generally damage skin, but if skin is allowed to become hydrated (filled with liquid), it is more easily damaged by irritants such as friction, chemicals or microbes. (i.e., bacteria or yeast).

    Friction � When baby is mobile and the diaper rubs on wet skin, it will sometimes result in a rash. (Redness will be seen where chafing is greatest, but not in the baby�s skin folds).

    Yeast or fungus infection � The main cause of severe diaper rash is infection of the skin with Candida, an organism found in feces of infants (this is more likely to happen if the child is taking antibiotics). This rash is bright red and tender, with distinct edges, and appears in the creases between the abdomen and thighs, with small red spots or pustules close to the large patches.

    Heat inside the diaper may cause heat rash and may increase the growth of microbes such as yeast or bacteria. Some types of rash (e.g., impetigo) are most common in warm conditions.

    Allergens and irritants � Some possible allergens and irritants are: baby wipes, plastic, chemicals, perfumes, perfumes, chlorine bleach, residues/ingredients in some detergents, fabric softeners, and paraben (a preservative in some creams and ointments).

    Diet and age - Some studies have found less rash with breastfed babies than with formula-fed babies. Also, introduction of new foods can sometimes give feces higher pH and cause a rash (usually around the anus), which is possibly the reason the diaper rash peaks at 7 - 15 months.

    Susceptibility - Some babies are simply more prone to rash than others.

    Teething - and the common cold have been reported to cause diaper rash.

    Aggressive and/or frequent cleansing of the diaper area with soap or disposable baby wipes can damage skin. Insufficient cleaning can also contribute to rash.

    Other forms of rash in the diaper area are: seborrheic dematitis (may be accompanied by "cradle cap" on the scalp), intertrigo (from skin rubbing on skin, in the creases), impetigo (caused by bacteria), psoriasis and scabies.

    TO KEEP BABIES SKIN HEALTHY

    On average, a baby�s diaper should be checked for wetness every hour. Newborn babies urinate 8 - 20 times a day (average 10 - 12). This gradually decreases to 7 - 10 times a day at 12 months of age and 5 - 8 times a day as they reach toilet-training age.

    Gentle wiping of baby�s bottom with a clean, warm wet cloth is recommended at every diaper change for newborns, several times a day for older babies. Let baby�s skin dry before applying a clean diaper.

    Creams and moisture barriers (e.g., petroleum jelly) need not be used with every diaper change. Generally, after the bath and/or before bed is sufficient. It is good to let skin "breathe." Skin must be clean before applying a moisture barrier. Powders and cornstarch can accidentally be inhaled by baby and probably should not be used.

    Diapers containing feces: Gently wipe feces off baby with the inside of the diaper (or stay-dry liner). Use toilet paper if necessary. Wipe girls from front to back to avoid vaginal infection. Wash baby�s bottom gently but thoroughly with warm water and a soft cloth (fold and use a clean part of the cloth each time you wipe). If you use soap, use a mild one and rinse it completely off.

    If baby has diarrhea or a cold or is teething a moisture barrier (e.g., petroleum jelly) should be applied to the skin after cleaning and drying it well.

    Diaper liners made of non-absorbent fabric such as polyester, will help keep wetness away from baby�s skin, and may reduce mixture of urine and feces.

    Air baby�s bottom in a warm place after bathtime (or any convenient time). The use of plastic on the outside of the diaper tends to hide the evidence that a change is necessary, and tends to prevent evaporation and raise the temperature on baby�s skin.

    This can cause general discomfort in warm conditions, and may increase growth of bacteria, fungi or yeast if present. The use of breathable waterproof diaper covers over cloth, may help prevent diaper rash, and is especially recommended if baby develops a yeast infection. Breathable waterproof covers do not necessarily reduce wetness on baby�s skin while the diaper is wet, but they do help prevent the build up of heat inside the diaper as well as aid in moisture evaporation.

    For night diapering, ensure the diaper has adequate absorbency. Cloth diapers usually require the addition of an insert or two (or double diapering if using traditional flat diapers). Use of a non-absorbent inner liner next to baby�s skin is especially recommended for night. Apply a moisture barrier (e.g., petroleum jelly) to reduce hydration of the skin with urine during the night, and protect skin from irritants.

    If baby�s skin is healthy, changing a wet diaper in the middle of the night is not generally necessary if the diaper is absorbent enough, as most of the moisture will be drawn away from the baby�s skin. Also as the baby is relatively immobile, there is not much friction on the skin.

    If baby has a persistent rash, a 3 a.m. check may be advisable.

    IF A RASH DEVELOPS

    If diaper rash develops, let baby go without a diaper for one to three hours a day. For young babies, put them on the diaper Instead of in the diaper (make sure the room is warm). For older, more mobile babies, try to keep them in a non-carpeted area, or wait until nap time. (If urine gets in the carpet, baking soda or rug cleaning foam can be used to treat odors and stains). The next most airy option is to put baby into a cloth diaper alone (without a cover). Using a breathable waterproof cover over top is also an option that will allow some air in and out.

    It is important to air baby�s bottom when a mild rash appears, to allow healing. Once skin becomes irritated, it is more susceptible to further irritation. Organisms that cause severe rash (e.g., yeast) do not generally infect healthy skin; however if present in the feces, they can infect damaged skin.

    Avoid use of disposable baby wipes if baby has a rash. If allergies are suspected, eliminate possible allergens until the rash clears. Then introduce one possible allergen each week , so allergies can be detected. If in doubt, discuss this with your doctor.

    Often a diaper rash cream or ointment will help clear up a rash within a day or two (consult with your pharmacist or health nurse for a recommended brand). If ointment is difficult to remove, use olive oil or baby oil on a cotton ball.

    Consult a physician if a rash worsens or persists for more than three or four days, or if skin is broken or develops pimples, pustules or blisters. Prescription creams or medicine may be required to clear some types of rash (e.g., yeast infection)

    IF A RASH PERSISTS

    If a rash persists, or keeps coming back you may consider changing other things besides wet diapers. If your baby is under six months of age a regular detergent may be to harsh; try a specially formulated detergent like Dreft or try Ivory Snow (for clothes, not diapers) which is a soap (at least one extra rinse is necessary to remove soap residue). If your baby is older than six months try changing to a different detergent, and/or add a cup of vinegar to the final rinse (to lower pH and help remove detergent residues if present)[/quote]

    CD Safe Diaper Creams:- Burt's Bees Diaper Ointment
    - Weleda Diaper Care Cream
    - Aveeno
    ***Avoid any products that contain fish oil (such as Desitin) as these will stain and stink up your dipes!

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