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    Welcome, Karen! Glad you were able to get the childcare worked out for the hsyteroscopy--although it ended up being so complicated! Really makes this whole process more difficult, I think. As for clomid & twins, clomid only slightly increases the risk. And since you're under 30, your chances are lower than when you're in your 30s. I would definitely not avoid clomid just for that reason, because the risk is still low, but I understand your fear.

    Pookie, I'd originally thought I'd be done with kids by 30, too. Back when I still thought I had any sort of control over these things! Ah the naïveté.

    Jenny, I have heard that cramps tend to be not quite as bad post-baby! I guess mine are slightly better, although I have to say that one of the great things about weaning was being able to take something other than Tylenol for them!!


    I had my HSG yesterday. It went better than last time (I just posted an update in the HSG thread), but I had much worse results. It looks like pregnancy has blocked my left tube all the way at the end near the ovary. It was totally blocked, and then right at the end the dye started slowly trickling from the end. So it's slightly open now, I guess. I'm just waiting to hear from the RE's office about the results. I called them today because I'm in pain from it still (totally bloated and sore), and they said the RE hasn't gotten the results yet. I'm not even sure who I'll have an appt with, either, because my RE has switched to only IVF patients, and now I have to start seeing one of the other ones. We love our RE and completely trust her, it might sound silly but I'm really upset about changing.

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    Scooter Sorry to hear about the HSG results. Changing docs is hard, especially if you've had time to develope a good relationship with them.

    We had our RE consult today. It went about how I expected. I had almost forgot about the lovely world of dildo cams. When I had my Clomid check with my OB, it was just her and I in the room. For my u/s today, (my RE does 1 at every consult) it seemed like the whole world was in there, but in reality just the RE, his assistant and DH. Although the RE did tell DH to pull up a chair to get a better view. I kind of regret not really trying this month since the RE said everything looked really good, thick lining, strong O. We talked about waiting out this year due to school. RE's feelings were that since we want a total of 3 kids, we can take a few months off trying but not longer than that. He felt waiting 2 years would make stats alot different for us. He said there is never a good time for kids. Definatley true, but I'm not sure how up to dealing with a newborn and the first year of grad school would be. On the other hand, I don't know that I'll get in. He harped on me about losing weight. I know I need to, but geesh. Our basic gameplan is to do cd 3 b/w next cycle. Then DH and I need to decide on when we want to start the HSG and possible IUI. RE said we'd do 1 round with Clomid and then move onto something else, can't remember the name. So that's the basic gameplan, although I'm not really sure what will end up happening.
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    scooter - it doesn't sound silly at all. I love my OB and during pregnancy when I have to see her partner, I get totally bummed - even though she's perfectly nice too! I hope you get some good answers at your next appt.

    pookie - Good luck deciding.

    As for me, AF has left the building and I broke out the thermometer (for the first time since Nov 2005) last night and took my first temp today.
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    scooter - I am so sorry about your test results. And I don't think getting upset about the OB is silly at all....you've been through a lot together so it is completely understandable.

    pookie - good luck!
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    Scooter - Glad that the HSG wasn't as bad as last time but sorry to hear that your results weren't great. Do you think that your RE is likely to recommend IVF with one completely blocked tube versus IUIs?

    Pookie - Glad that your consult went well and goodluck with your decision. Although we don't have the same situation, had infertility not been an issue here, we definitely wouldn't be trying for #2 so soon after #1. BUT, it took so long last time that we didn't want to wait any longer.

    Jenny - Well, you must have given her the right address, because AF found me!

    So, AF showed up on Monday and I have my baseline appointment for Thursday. Originally they told me that I would be on lupron for 1 week after my baseline appt before starting the stims, but since I will have been on lupron already for 1 week by then, I wonder if they will start stims earlier? I guess I'll find out on Thursday. Ahh....entering the frequent dildo cam days. Joy!

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    Just an update on me. I finally got around to calling the Dr's office. The Dr won't prescribe Met without having an appointment, since it's been too long since she's seen me (January of this year). So, I have an appointment towards the end of October. Blah.
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    Pookie, Thanks. The new doc is actually going to be our 4th RE! Didn't like the 1st one, liked the 2nd but had to change insurance & clinics to get partial coverage, and loved the 3rd. I guess the silver lining is if we have to go to IVF, we'll have a great doc lined up! For your situation, I'd guess a newborn would be hard anytime you're in school, but I'm wondering if it might actually be easier the first year? I'm guessing if you're going to be a PA you'll have some kind of internship/practicum at the end of the grad program? And that would be on top of your class load. Sounds a lot more hectic and stressful than the first year, which would be just studying, papers, reading--a lot of that you could do if a newborn is sleeping a lot, you know? I don't know, I'm just thinking about my experience in grad school, and for how difficult the 1st year was, having an internship added onto that is much harder.

    Jenny, I'm sorry you have to wait another month before starting the met! I hope that BFing helps keep the hormones even this month. Has the little one been nursing as often, or has she dropped any sessions? Just curious if that is why your cycles are lengthening.

    cr8zy4af, thanks. Yeah, when you really trust a doctor it's hard to leave them, because you never know what the next one will be like. And it's not easy to find one who's really on top of things medically as well as nice and with a good bedside manner. Unfortunately!

    Kemorr, thank you. I'm guessing we'll still be trying the IUIs. Since we're starting with injectables, we'll only be doing them for a few cycles anyway until they recommend IVF. I'm just trying not to think that far ahead yet--still waiting to hear from the RE's office. So how did the baseline go? That's interesting they'd want to wait so long to start the stims, that would be like cd 11 they'd be waiting until. Do you remember when you started the stims last time?


    I'm doing all right. I've been pretty down this week. I have to stop letting my mind go down that road of "what if?" Right now if seems to be going "what if the tubes are really a problem? What if it's got fluid in there and IUIs are going to be a waste of time? What if they have to go in and remove the tube? What if something ends up being wrong with the other one, too?" Anyway, I'm sure you know how it goes--I just have to stop myself from getting all worked up about this, when we haven't even done one treatment cycle yet. Maybe I should focus on "What if the first IUI works?" Right?!

    Oh--I thought I'd mention it here, but I did write a blog post for CC about infertility. It's my attempt at remaining positive even in the face of bad news. (If only I could stick to that advice all the time!) But anyway, it should be up next week, so keep an eye out for it.

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    Scooter - I can't remember exactly how many days of lupron I did before starting the stims last time, but I do remember that I was on lupron for an additional week after AF showed (so exactly how many days that added up to, I'm not sure), before starting stims. So, the plan this time is the same, which I'm fine with, as it obviously worked out OK last time! I think the reason is because of the endometriosis. Lupron is actually a treatment for endo, so I think the idea is to try to suppress and quiet down any endo before starting stims. I'm not 100% sure, though, because I've never actually asked for the exact reason.

    So, I felt like a total idiot today. Yesterday after taking my lupron shot, I was on my way into the kitchen to return the lupron to the fridge and decided to stop off in the laundry room on the way to remove some of DD's clothes from the washing machine and hang them on the drying rack. Well, today when I go to take my lupron out of the fridge - it isn't there. I literally removed every single item from the fridge to try to find it. Nada. Emptied out all my cabinets in the bathroom where I took the shot yesterday - still no lupron. Searched "everywhere" in the house and couldn't find the damn vial. I was so p*ssed. So, I have to call my clinic's on call Dr. (of course they are closed on weekends, so have to call the emergency #) and ask them to call me in a new script because I have lost my lupron. How embarrasing! Anyway, after making the call, I walk into the laundry room (which I guess I didn't check!) and there is the vial sitting on the ironing board. I still went and got the new vial as obviously the old vial hadn't been refrigerated overnight. What an idiot!

    My baseline on Thursday was all normal and I start stims on Friday, a week from yesterday. This is the boring part of the cycle, I'm keen to get started.

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    Kemorr I have a few stories like that myself. When is your transfer?
    Scooter I'm sorry you're feeling down. I think after having gone thru IF, those thoughts are very easy to have. A Fertile Mertile friend of mine and I were talking about BC after having the # of kids you want. I jokingly said we don't need to do anything and she responded but when you have sex you get pg. (She's the kind that can pick her kids b-days.)
    Jennylou Sorry you have to wait until late October. It's amazing how long a month can seem where you're READY.

    AF showed for me today. I actually felt happy, which I was kind of concerned about how I would feel. I'll go in for my cd 3 b/w on Tuesday, but I think we're going to wait for the HSG until November or so. Still so much up in the air. On the down side, I had a 25 day cycle (I think my shortest ever.) I o'ed on cd 15, but then had a 10 day LP. RE said if it stays short he'll put me on Progesterone.
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    Just subscribing to this thread....

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    My annual with my OB is next week and tomorrow I'm going to call my RE to schedule a consult so that we can spec out a "game plan".

    DD (who is now 2) was born following a cycle of Follistim, trigger shot and IUI. Also did accupuncture that cycle.

    Looking forward to following along in everyone's journey.

    Scooter - Didn't realize that you're doing injectables + IUI in Nov and Dec! I'm very excited for you and hope Charlotte gets a sib soon!

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