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Charting is Knowledge
10-29-2005, 11:43 AM
TTCers of ConstantChatter:
Charting Our Course to the BFPs

http://www.ripleysorlando.com/images2/fertilitystatues.jpg
The fertility statues are known to work for some who rub them around the time of possible conception.
It is said that the baby is the most potent part of the statue.

So rub away! :D It's worth a shot!


Who we are:
This is a group of women using charting (temperatures, CM, CP, OPK/FM results, or a combination of these) to try to conceive and, along the way, are learning a heckuvalot about their own bodies! Many of us use a software program to keep track of our charts as well as allowing us to share them with each other. The most common ones are FertitlityFriend.com and Ovusoft.com.

Your threadmistresses for this thread are Polkadot and Sabriel!

To our members:
This thread gets very busy at times, so in order to keep things less overwhelming and a bit more organized, we start a new thread each month as well as after 3 BFPs. A link to the new thread is always posted at the end of the current thread to help everyone find their way over. The threadmistress would really appreciate it if everyone would post their updates in Red. That way, if I get a bit behind, it is much quicker to get the thread up-to-date.


Previous Thread... (http://www.constantchatter.com/showthread.php?t=9197)


KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!

Want to join the fun??
We welcome one and all. It doesn’t matter if you have never charted before or if you’ve been charting to avoid. I am sure you will find lots of help and support in this group.

If you would like to join, CD1 is the time to do it! That way, we can cheer you on
throughout your cycle, rather than 2 days before you test! :cool:

Please don't be discouraged by the number of posts in this thread. You don’t have to read the whole thread to join. Feel free to just jump in on the last page. Just read through these first couple of posts and post a reply with the following information and we will get you added right away. Of course, none of this info is a must but we like to know a little bit about one another.


CC Name:
Me: name/age
DH: name/age
Married since: date
Off BCP since: date
TTC since: date
Charting since: date
Known issues/test results:
Chart: link
Current status: waiting to O, What the bleep .., testing...

Charting is Knowledge
10-29-2005, 11:44 AM
- Member ETF Status -

Lutealating:

Think I O'ed - Testing 10/31 - 11/6:
Ilovemygeek (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bec65), neenbean (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/66982), Polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d)

Think I O'ed - Testing 11/7 - 11/13:
Jnshanna (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cafa6), MichelleRenee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e174a), Ptcrn (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bed5d), Sabriel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c)

Think I O'ed- Testing 11/14-11/20:
UTChick (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf25d)

Folliculating:
Waiting to O (aka - Boring Part of the Cycle)
Abby's Mom, ajlanden (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2fdee), Applebee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/98534), Bellefior (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6231d), bumble, Catloverpq (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/da20b), Copswife03 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/daf53), CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas), Deanna1018 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2979), Dlj78 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=dlj78), Dotsie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e00ca), Ellebelle (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2f8f5), gator97 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/84b2d), gmb4503 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/28f73), Graciebella (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7a038), Hiker04 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e86f8), Hula1974 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/905ef), jeant ( http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/5ef37), Jeggink (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c595), Jesseybell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cd4f1), Jjsanner (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/24f94), JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf), Katmg (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/89994), Kiddo (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/kiddo), Kristi32302 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/45b0a), Linnybubbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2330), Marteneym (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fa78), Mayham (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/be39e), Spencer's_Girl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6f9cc)

Stagnating:
What the *bleep* is going on?!?!
ABirney (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrsabirney), Gymwidow (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/813ab)

Chart not Updated -- Waiting for an update:

Taking a Charting Break/Temporarily TTA:
Ellidew (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/78d2a) - Temporarily TTA, LDS Angel 19 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/64d1c)

Percolating:
Expecting Mommies!

BFPs in November: (2)
Lindybug (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99db2), mkvh (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99502)

BFPs in October: (18)...We Broke the Record for most BFP's in One Month!!!!
amurphy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a5e06), Bottleored (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/44b0a), BunnyBeth (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e5de5), Calla Lily (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b025d), Ds2003 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ds2003), Gardenia (http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=gardeniacc), jbenny75 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/803b1), Kaeden's Mommy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bcdb2), Lizard (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/af125), Mystikal (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/RaeK622), nuhmah (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/d72dc), Ryan (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3f12b), SarahnCraig (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c1846), Shouldaeloped (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/63d7a), Soulmate (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Soulmate), Klav (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21291), ShelbyMay (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/67c07), Wrighty26 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/beb7b)

BFPs in September: (2)
Baby Lust (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Shanes_Angel), Lowcountrywed (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c4aeb)

BFPs in August: (11)
Akachan93 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/229b9), Crazycaro (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21ac6), Guinness (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=10&id=guinness&tc=0&p=), jeeplover (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/721bb), Indiana Bride (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1d936), LittleStar (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c204a), Mel7dog (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ca05d), Missy329 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2b4de), MMHinCA (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c14c1), Sinclair319 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/sinclair319), Stumbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b1333), Uskiku (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cdfb0),

BFPs in July: (10)
Elenitsa (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=13&id=elenitsa&tc=0&p=), Heidi0622 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/549f8), Jane&Andy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c455f), Kopper (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/9e5e6), MrsCantDecide (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59e5b), Red_Canuck, Sevilla, ShannonGH (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ShannonGH), Tracie (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/a18c8), Tunibell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59461)

BFPs in June: (2)
Christy5599, Lovin'it

Tributatoring:
Proud Cheerleaders!
Aletheia (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a0c60), T3h_wookie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/25336)

Please advise if I’m off-target with your ETF (that's Estimated Test-Fest) or other status, or just need a good old-fashioned Ovary Shout!

-- Please remember to post all updates in red! Thank you!

Charting is Knowledge
10-29-2005, 11:45 AM
Our Members:

Abby'sMom
Me: 27
DH: 27
Married since: 8/17/02
DD: Abby, 11/3/04
Off BC since:
TTC since:
Charting since:
Known issues/test results: none

ABirney (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrsabirney)
Me: Angie, 30
DH: Scott, 28 (29 soon)
Married since: Sept 25, 2004
Off BC since: Dec '04
TTC since: Sept '05
Charting since: Dec 20 '04
Known issues: none

ajlanden (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2fdee)
Me: Ashley, 28
DH: Doug, 33
Married since: 6/28/03
DD: Danielle Judith 12/15/04
Off BCP since: 8/05
TTC since: NOW!
Charting since: 8/12
Known issues/test results: M/C at 7 weeks 10/05

Almostthere
WC Name: Almostthere
Me: Sarah
Married since: 6-2-2001
Off BCP since: forever
TTC since: September 2005
Charting since: September 2005
Known issues/test results: None

Aletheia (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a0c60)
Me: Aletheia, 28
DH: Mr. Ramsey, 28
Married since: August 7, 2004
Off BCP since: on briefly in 1999?
TTC since: December 1, 2005!
Charting since: March, 2005
Known issues/test results: none known

Applebee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/98534)
Me: Lori Ann
DH: Ted
Married: 4.4.03
Chart: since Feb '05
Known issues/test results:
Day3 Test all ok, DH's SA ok, but will have another one done. Motility on the low side

Bellefior (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6231d)
ME: 36
DH: 35
Married since: 5/31/03
Off BCP since: 5/05
TTC since: 5/05
Charting since: 5/05
Known issues/test results: None

Bumble
DH: 33
Married since: 8.2003
TTC since: 4.2005
Charting since: 1.2005
Known issues/test results: miscarriage 6.2005 (8 weeks)

Cat_loverpq (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/da20b)
Me: Cortney
DH: Glenn
Married since: 6/5/04
Off BCP since: February 2005
TTC since: 8/19/05
Charting since: February 2005
Known issues/test results: none

Copswife03 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/daf53)
Me: Brooke/25
DH: Joe/27
Married since: 10/11/2003
Off BCP since: 8/20/2005
TTC since: 8/20/2005
Charting since: 8/22/2005
Known issues/test results: None

CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas)
ME: MMT age 33
DH: CT age 36
Married: 11/04
Off BCP: 12/04
TTC since: 01/05
Known issues/test results: Long cycles

Dlj78 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=dlj78)
Me: Dana/27
DH: Nick/31
Married since: 9/18/04
Off BCP since: 2/2005
TTC since: 6/2005
Charting since: 2/2005
Known issues/test results: none

Deanna1018 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2979)
Me:37
DH:38
Married since: 9-6-03
TTC since: Will start Jan 06'
Charting since: October 2005
Known issues/test results: None

Dotsie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e00ca)
Me: Dorothy 30
DH: Sean 34
Married: 10/27/01
DS: Aidan 6/27/03
TTC #2: 9/2005
Known issues/test results: none

Ellebelle (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2f8f5)
Me: 27
DH: 34
Married: 06.21.03
Off BCP: 08.03
Charting Since: 08.03
TTC Since: 06.05
Known issues/test results: none

Ellidew (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/78d2a)
Me: ellidew, 25
DH: 27
Married since: June 1, 2002
Off BCP since: 01/2005
TTC since: 07/2005
Charting since: 01/2005
Known issues/test results: none

Gator97 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/84b2d)
Me: Kristen/30
DH: Peter/30
Married since: 11/06/04
Off BCP since: 12/04
TTC since: 02/05
Charting since: 12/04
Known issues/test results: dx endometriosis/adenomyosis 08/05
m/c 09/28/05

gmb4503 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/28f73)
CC Name: gmb4503
Me: Gina/26
DH: Steve/27
Married since: April 5, 2003
Off BCP since: Sept 2003
TTC since: June 2004
Charting since: Sept 2004
Known issues/test results: SA-normal, taking 50mg Clomid

graciebella (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7a038)
Me: graciebella/34
DH: hubby /29
Married since: 10/09/04
Off BCP since: long time
TTC since: 10/04, with 6 month break
Charting since: 10/05
Known issues/test results: 1 blocked tube, irregular ovulation

Gymwidow (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/813ab)
Me: Melissa/28
DH: Alan/29
Married since: June '03
Off BCP since: Feb. '05
TTC since: June '05
Charting since: Feb. '05
Known issues/test results: PCOS diagnosed 9/05 and low sperm count diagnosed 10/05.

Hiker04 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e86f8)
Me: C, 26
DH: K, 37
Married since: 9-4-2004
Off BCP since: 5-2004
TTC since: 6-2005
Charting since: 6-2005
Known issues/test results: m/c Aug 4, 2005

Hula1974 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/905ef)
Me: Heather/30
DH: Tim/31
Married since: 6/8/02
Off BCP since: 8/04
TTC since: 10/05
Charting since: 2/05
Known issues: Migraine Headaches

Ilovemygeek (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bec65)
Me: Rachel (23)
DH: Trevor (23)
Married since: June 8, 2002
Off BCP since: June 12, 2005
TTC since: As soon as my cycles regulate themselves
Charting since: June 12, 2002
Known issues/test results: None

jeant (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/5ef37)
Me: Jean, 34
DH: Craig, 33
Married since: June 19, 2004
Off BCP since: June 5, 2004
TTC since: November 1, 2005
Charting since: July 2004
Known issues: Autoimmune thyroid disorder, correlated with higher risk of miscarriage.

Jeggink (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c595)
Me: Judi, 32
DH: Dan, 32
DS: Joseph, 9/23/04
Married since: Sept. 28, 2002
Off BCP since: 10/05
TTC since: Just seeing what happens (with charting)
Charting since: 8/03
Known issues/test results: None

Jesseybell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cd4f1)
Me: Jessie/ just turned 35
DH: Dan/ just turned 33
Married Since: May 21, 2005
Off BCP Since: July 5, 2005
Charting since: August 10, 2005
Known issues/test results: Diagnosed with endometriosis at age 19, DES Daughter

Jjsanner (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/24f94)
Me: Jen, 30
DH: Eric, 33
DS: Elijah, born 2/6/2004
Married since: 4/26/2003
Off BCP since: 10/2004
TTC since: 6/2005
Charting since: 10/2004
Known issues/test results: None

Jnshanna (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cafa6)
Me: Shanna/29
DH: Jose/30
Married since: 10/01/94
Off BCP since: Haven't been on BCP for many years.
TTC since: July 2005
Charting since: 8/07/05
Known issues/test results: None

JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf)
Me: Jody, 32
DH: Scott, 31
Married Since: August 30, 2003
Off BCP Since: At least 10 years now
Charting Since: January 2005
Known issues/test results: None

Charting is Knowledge
10-29-2005, 11:45 AM
Members continued...

Katmg (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/89994)
Me: Katmg, 26
DH: Jim, 30
Married since: Nov. 8, 2003
Off BCP since: 05/04
Charting since: 08/04
TTC since: 05/05
Known issues/test results: None

kiddo (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/kiddo)
Me: Karen, 29
DH: Nate, 30
Married since: Oct 26, 2002
Off BC since: July '04
TTC since: August '04
Charting since: August '05
Known issues: none

Kristi32302 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/45b0a)
Me: Kristi/31
DH: Kelly/32
Married since: March 23, 2002
Off BCP since: Feb. 2004
TTC since: May 2004
Charting since: March 2004
Known issues/test results: None

LDS Angel 19 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/64d1c)
Me: Michelle, 22
DH: Aaron, 23
Married since: Sept 4th 2004
Angel: Allison Grace, born and died June 17 2005
Off BCP since: Never on BCP
TTC (again) since: August 2005
Charting since: Charted August, took September off, and now starting again.
Known issues/test results: None at this time

Linnybubbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2330)
Me: Lindsey/26
DH: Stephen/30
Married since: 7/23/05
Off BCP since: 7/31/05
TTC since: 8/1/05
Charting since: 10/21/05
Known issues/test results:

Marteneym (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fa78)
Me: 22
DH: 27
Married since: October 4, 2003
SWH since: October 2004
TTC since: December 2004
Off BCP since: September 2004
Known issues/test results:
Known issues: Delayed Ovulation, SA issues, Varicocele possible
9/9 FSH and Rubella- NORMAL
9/12 SA ABNORMAL- count 30mil/
motility 30% -repeat in 8wks

Mayham (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/be39e)
Me: 28
DH: 28
Married since: 5.02
TTC since: 3.05
Charting since: 5.05
Known issues/test results: None

MichelleRenee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e174a)
Me: Michelle/ 23
DH: Michael/ 29
Married since: May 29, 2005
Off BCP since: September 2005
TTC since: September 2005
Charting since: October 2005
Known issues/test results: none so far!

Mrs. M. (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1a234)
Me: Birgit, 29
DH: 28
Married since: 2000
Off BCP since: 2002
DD born 8-28-2003 (took 6 months to conceive)
TTC #2 since: Oct. 2005
Charting since: 2002
Known issues/test results: None

neenbean (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/66982)
Me: 30
DH: 30
Married since: 11/15/03
Off BCP since: 2/04
TTC since: waiting until 1/06
Charting since: 10/05/05 (also did before BFP with DD)
Known issues/test results: none

Polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d)
Me: lauren 26
DH: brian 27
Married since: 11-20-04
Off BCP since: May 05
TTC since: May 05
Charting since: May 05
Known issues/test results: none

Ptcrn (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bed5d)
Me: Jen/30
DH: Gerry/29
Married since: July 30th 2005
Off BCP since: August 14th 2005
TTC and Charting since: August 14th 2005
Known issues/test results: none

Purplesunshine7
Me:
DH:
Married since: 4/5/03
Off BCP since:
TTC since: 7/05
Known issues/test results: m/c 6/2/05

Sabriel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c)
Me: C, 24
DH: J, 23
Married since: May 22, 2005
Off BCP since: Never on BCP
TTC since: August 2, 2005
Charting since: May 8, 2004
Known issues/test results: m/c on October 15, 2005 @ 6 weeks 4 days

Spencer's_Girl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6f9cc)
Me: melissa / 24
DH: keith / 34
Married since: Sept. 11, 2004
Off BCP since: August 26, 2004
TTC since: Sept. 11, 2004
Charting since: November 20, 2004
Known issues/test results: None

UTChick (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf25d)
Me: Kathy 28
DH: Mike 34
Married since: September 20, 2003
Off BCP since: December 2004
TTC since: May 2005
Charting since: May 2005
Known issues/test results: None

Charting is Knowledge
10-29-2005, 11:46 AM
Things I Have Learned About TTC
by WC's Sherylb

* TTC is a journey. You will discover things about yourself that you never expected. You will face fears you never thought you had. You will find joy in little things.

* TTC can bring you closer to your DH, or it can pull you apart. If your marriage is not solid, you will find out quickly.

* No one understands exactly what you are feeling at any given moment, but someone can empathize at least a little bit.

* You will experience an emotional roller coaster ride. There will be highs and lows and fast moments and slow. Sometimes you have to wait in a very, very slow moving line. You may not even get the seat you want. It is not always fun, it can be scary, but in the end it is worth it.

* "Just relax" is the last thing in the world you want to hear from someone, but it is OK if you say it about yourself.

* There will be moments when you question your own decision to start TTC. You will wonder if you should wait or if you should just give up. Those are normal. But you will get past those feelings.

* The blue and green turtle likes to pop its head out! You will hear of someone's pregnancy and turn green with envy and blue inside because it isn't you.

* It isn't fair, it isn't easy, and it isn't pretty. But you keep doing it because the reward is worth it.

* You will be your best friend and your worst enemy. Your body will
surprise you and yet disappoint you.

* Some women do get lucky and conceive right away. Others aren't so lucky and have to struggle to get there. Hope you will be in the first category, but prepare yourself to be in the second.

* Once you decide to TTC, there will be babies and pregnant women everywhere! You could swear there is a baby boom going on!

* You will have questions. No one will ever be in exactly your position, so don't be surprised when no one can give you exactly the answer you are looking for. But there are people that can contribute, so don't be afraid to ask!

* Two lines on a pregnancy test is not the end of the struggle. Pregnancy has lots of struggles in and of itself.

Charting is Knowledge
10-29-2005, 11:47 AM
HTP sensitivity chart

These numbers might come in handy when shopping for HPTs.
The lower the amount of mIU measured, the more sensitive the test is!

AimStick Pregnancy Test Strip 20 mIU
AccuHome Midstream Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Pregnancy Test (Cup) 25 mIU
Clearblue +/- 25 mIU
Clearblue Digital 25 mIU
Confirm 1-Step Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Dollar Store Brand Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Equate Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
First Response Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
One Step Be Sure Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Precise Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Quickview Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Walgreen Digital 25 mIU
e.p.t. Home Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
Fact Plus Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
CVS Cartridge Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
CVS Midstream Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Drug Emporium Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. + / - Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. Certainty Digital Test 50 mIU
early Pregnancy test 50 mIU
RiteAid Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Target Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
WalMart Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Walgreens Pregnancy Test 100 mIU

Charting is Knowledge
10-29-2005, 11:47 AM
- Common TTC abbreviations

This is a list of some of the more common TTC abbreviations. I know as a newcomer to the TTC threads, it can be hard to keep them all straight. I hope these will help, and if anyone has any they would like added, please let me know!


•2WW: "2 week wait" - The approximate time from possible conception to menstruation due date; Pregnancy tests should be taken near the end of the 2WW.
•AF: "Aunt Flo"; Your period; Menstruation
•AFNW: "Aunt Flo Not Wanted"; the day your period is expected to start, but you are hoping it doesn't!
•AO: anovulatory (cycle without ovulation)
•BBs: "boobs"; breasts
•BBL: "be back later"
•BBT: Basal Body Thermometer; This is used to measure your basal body temperature, when you wake up in the morning, after at least 3 hours of sleep, before you start to move around; Use a special BBT thermometer to take your temperature because they measure the small changes in temperature from day to day more accurately than the regular fever thermometers.
•BCP: Birth control pills
•BD'ing: "baby dancing"; baby-making intercourse
•BFN: "Big Fat Neutral" or “Big Fat Negative”; Negative pregnancy test.
•BF'ing: breast-feeding
•BRB: "be right back"
•CD: cycle day; a particular day in your menstrual cycle (example: CD1 is the first day of your period)
•CL: Cover Line; a visual tool used to separate the low (pre-ovulatory) temps from high (post-ovulatory) temps; a coverline is typically based on the temperatures 6 days prior to ovulation.
•CM: cervical mucous; one of the most useful clues your body can give you in predicting your fertility; it can range from dry, creamy, sticky, or (the most fertile) egg white/watery type.
•CF: cervical fluid; same as cervical mucus
•CP: cervical position; an optional, but sometimes really useful, fertility sign; CP will generally be low, firm and closed before and after ovulation, and high, soft and open during your fertile time.
•DD: "dear daughter"
•DH: "dear husband"
•DS: "dear son"
•DPO: Days Past Ovulation; number of days from your post-ovulatory temperature rise. (Example: 1DPO is the day after your ovulation)
•Endo: endometriosis (can be a fertility problem)
•EDC and EDD: estimated date of confinement (antiquated, but still used by physicians) and estimated date of delivery
•EPT: a brand of pregnancy test, or, generic for "early pregnancy test"
•EW or EWCM: egg white cervical mucus; the most fertile quality CM; it is slippery, clear and stretchy, like egg whites; also EWCF
•FAM: Fertility Awareness Method; the method of fertility and/or birth control that correlates the physical changes you experience during your cycle to predict when you are most fertile
•FF: Fertility Friend, an online (free, for basic services) fertility charting site (website); (could also be formula feeding; check context)
•FM: fertility monitor
•FMU: first morning urine
•FP: follicular phase; the phase before ovulation, where the egg matures in the ovaries
•FRED: First Response Early Detection (pregnancy test)
•HCG: human chorionic gonadotropin; the hormone that is present during pregnancy and what the HPT's and blood test measure to determine if you are pregnant
•HTH: "hope that helps"
•HPT: home pregnancy test; a urine pregnancy test you can take at home
•IMHO: "in my humble opinion"
•IMO: "in my opinion"
•IUI: intra-uterine insemination
•IVF: in vitro fertilization
•KU: knocked up
•LH: leutenizing hormone; the LH surge is what is measured by the OPKs; this hormone signals the egg to burst from the ovary
•LP: luteal phase; the phase of your cycle that begins just after ovulation and continues for 10-18 days, ending with the start of your next period; during the LP, your body continues to build up the lining of your uterus, and produce hormones which would support a pregnancy; this is the time when a fertilized egg can implant into the uterine lining
•NFP: Natural Family Planning; similar to FAM, but with abstinence during the fertile period
•O, Oing, Oed: ovulation, ovulating, or ovulated
•OPK: ovulation predictor kit; tests for presence of LH surge that usually precedes ovulation by 12-48 hours; these tests are quite expensive and not always accurate (if you take medication or depending on your age); these are optional when charting with FF, but if your fertility data is not clear it can bring more light and help interpret difficult cases
•OS: Ovusoft; charting software based on TCOYF
•PCOS: polycystic ovarian syndrome (a fertility problem)
•PG: pregnant
•PIAC: pee in a cup
•POAS: pee on a stick
•RE: reproductive endocrinologist
•SA: semen analysis
•SH: "sweet husband"
•SO: "significant other"
•SYS, SYL : See ya soon! or See ya later!
•TCOYF: Taking Charge Of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler; a book and website about charting and fertility.
•TMI: "too much information" - There is no such thing when TTC!
•TTA: "trying to avoid"
•TTC: "trying to conceive"
•TTFN: "ta-ta for now"
•TTYL, TTYS: "talk to you later" or "talk to you soon"

Charting is Knowledge
10-29-2005, 11:48 AM
Resources borrowed from Still At It:

Abbreviations and acronyms
List of TTC & IF acronyms written out (http://womens-place.com/ttc/ttcacronyms.php)

HPT Sensitivity Comparison Charts
Fertility Plus (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hpt.html)
Pee On A Stick (http://www.peeonastick.com/hpts.html)
Mama's Ark (http://www.mamasark.com/hpt.htm)
Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com/pregnancy-test-sensitivity.html)
Remember, the hCG starts at 1 at implantation and increases as time goes on, so the smaller amount of hCG it measures, the more sensitive the test is!

Books
Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler, MPH (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060937645/qid=1041654042/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

The Fertility Sourcebook by M. Sara Rosenthal, PHD (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0737303808/qid=1042220393/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)

Inconceivable by Ben Elton (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385334656/qid=1041659461/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)
The movie "Maybe Baby" (below) is based on this book

Inconceivable: A Woman's Triumph Over Despair and Statistics
by Julia Indichova (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0767908201/qid=1059292613/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

The Infertility Diet: Get Pregnant & Prevent Miscarriage by Fern Reiss (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1893290395/qid=1059292976/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

Conquering Infertility: Dr. Domar's Mind/Body Guide to Enhancing
Fertility & Coping with Infertility by Alice Domar, Phd (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0670031550/qid=1059293116/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/103-2812959-1358247)


Girlfriend to Girlfriend: A Fertility Companion by Kristen Magnacca (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1588202135/qid=1082306449/sr=8-2/ref=pd_ka_2/104-9895052-8814318?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

Movies
Maybe Baby (2001) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000062XKW/qid=1041654127/sr=8-4/ref=sr_8_4/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=video&n=507846)

She's Having A Baby (1988) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6300988996/qid%3D1041654195/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-0287896-1655948)

Websites (by subject)

Charting
Ovusoft aka TCOYF (http://www.ovusoft.com/)
The site for Toni Weschler's book which includes message boards, chat and cycle galleries which are very helpful.

Fertility Friend (www.fertilityfriend.com)
A free charting site which includes a lot of information and cycle galleries.

Local Support
RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/chapters/resolvenearyou.jsp?name=chapters)
Nation-wide referrals to local support groups and therapists.

The American Infertility Association (http://www.americaninfertility.org)
Lots of information and support, including message boards and chat rooms.

Financial Concerns
ARC: Advanced Reproductive Care (http://www.arcfertility.com/)
information on financing infertility treatments

Family Fee Plan (http://www.amerifee.com/fertility-financing/index.asp)
information on financing infertility treatments

State Insurance Requirements (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/advocacy/insurance/index.jsp?name=advocacy&tag=insurance)
Links from the Resolve site about insurance & laws.

Inciid's Insurance pages (http://www.inciid.org/index.php)
Click through menu on right for more financial topics and the insurance forum.

General TTC
Trying To Conceive.com (http://www.tryingtoconceive.com/)
All things TTC! Lots of info as well as a place to buy herbal therapies for
conceiving.

Baby Med (http://www.babymed.com/)
Tons of information. Everything from Chinese gender charts to an FAQ section on pretty much any TTC question you could have.

Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com)
Baby makin' supplies!

OBGYN.net (http://www.obgyn.net/)
Lots of general info on women's health. They also have doctors on line who
answer questions.

Infertility Sites
INCIID (http://www.inciid.org/)
Pronounced "inside". (The International Council on Infertility Information Dissemination)
Excellent national resource.

Resolve (http://www.resolve.org)
Wonderful site with lots of infertility information and support.

I dream of baby (http://www.idreamofbaby.com/fertility.php)
Learn the basics of fertility issues here. This site also has a great message
board community!

Fertility Plus.org’s list of female hormone levels (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hormonelevels.html#female)
Starting your fertility work-up? Check out this site to see a list of the
commonly tested female hormone levels, the function of each hormone, and the normal levels of each hormone.

Shared Journey (http://www.sharedjourney.com)
Shared Journey is dedicated to providing quality information on topics such as
infertility, miscarriage, surrogacy, pregnancy after infertility, living
child-free, and adoption. Our information is supplied by well noted Reproductive
Endocrinologist's, Psychologists, Adoption professionals and links through
various sites.

FertileHeart (http://www.fertileheart.com)
A community of people exploring holistic approaches to fertility. A site by
author Julia Indichova (see books above)

Specific IF Issues
Soul Cysters (http://www.soulcysters.com)
PCOS site with lots of support and info

Dr. Beer (http://www.repro-med.net)
Reproductive Immunology information, including lists of tests, pricing, local referrals

Reproductive Immunology Support (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/immunologysupport/)
Yahoo group for RI patients, tons of info and articles

Info for Family and Friends
Empty Arms (http://www.vocalicious.com/empty_arms/empty_arms_mod.html)
This is a great video so they can understand what you're going through. (And get out your kleenex!)

Charting is Knowledge
10-29-2005, 11:57 AM
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Post away....Come on BFP's

ABirney
10-29-2005, 12:02 PM
Am I first???? Thanks for the new thread!

kmmommy
10-29-2005, 12:14 PM
Dropping off BABY DUST and hoping this month turns out as well as October!

klav
10-29-2005, 12:25 PM
hey there!! subscribing!!

polkadot
10-29-2005, 12:38 PM
hi all...it took me forever to get this new thread right...the way it needed to be...but now that that is over...bring on some more BFP's we need em...hopefully they will rub off on me....


for some reason...eventhough we got the high rating for the 1st time ever...its just doesnt **feel** like this is gonna be the month...and that really sucks....but i hop we see more BFp's really soon...


ETA: i was just fooling around with FF and if i change my setting to FAM....it hdoesnt even detect my O...To all the charting experts....isnt that weird???

Wrighty26
10-29-2005, 12:54 PM
Subscribing :) I'm hoping that I officially graduate soon-- but I haven't tested again.

Congrats Klav!!! You snuck in there on me :)

jnshanna
10-29-2005, 12:55 PM
Just checking in and subscribing. Big congrats to Nuhmah, ShelbyMay, Klav and Wrighty. What a wonderful way to finish up October!!

So sorry to those that AF found. :(

I'm really confused about my chart this month so it's been pretty emotional. Today's a better day though, thankfully.

I hope November Is a very fertile month!!

jodylovesscotty
10-29-2005, 01:15 PM
Just Checkin' In.

Threadmistress~ Can you please move me back to waiting to O. Thanks

Soulmate
10-29-2005, 02:06 PM
Subscribin'

polkadot According to FAM rules, your coverline would be around 97.82ish (.1 above your CD16 temp) and I think that is why it is not giving you crosshairs on that setting. You obviously Oed when it said you did so I wouldn't worry. Also, I didn't start getting symptoms until way later in my 2ww so don't count your self out yet.

~*~*~*~*~*~*~BABY DUST*~*~*~*~*~*~
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Charting is Knowledge
10-29-2005, 02:16 PM
Updated to here



Wrighty- I put you as a BFP...do you want me to take you off....just in case...i wouldnt wanna jinx it for you ;)

Sabriel
10-29-2005, 03:07 PM
Wow, I missed a lot while I was working last night and today! Congrats to klav and ShelbyMay! And an unofficial congrats to Wrighty26! I hope it is official soon! That has got to be frustrating. :rolleyes:

jnshanna So glad that you are feeling better today.

polkadot It's still early! Don't give up yet! Thanks for starting the new thread!

UTChick I really hope the Dr. can help you out and get you on the right track.

MichelleRenee I still don't think you have Oed. FF is crazy.

jesseybell Hope all goes well with your HSG and that you get pg right after!

Bellefior I hope you are able to figure out what is going on soon. Not knowing is the worst.

Dotsie Sorry about the BFN. But you know it's not over until AF shows her ugly face! Fingers crossed for you!

jodylovesscotty Sorry about AF. That sucks. :(

gymwidow I'm sorry that your DH didn't get good news at the urologist. I hope you guys are able to get things figured out soon!

Too bad we are not TTC this month, because I have had tons of EWCM for 4 days! Usually I am lucky to get very much at all. Three days until my MW appointment.

Dotsie
10-29-2005, 04:00 PM
subscribing

cat_loverpq
10-29-2005, 06:29 PM
Big CONGRATS to ShelbyMay and klav, and a cautious congrats to Wrighty!!

Please, please, PLEASE let the fertile trend continue into November...I want a little turkey!! :D:p

MichelleRenee
10-30-2005, 12:28 AM
Sabriel, I don't think I O'ed either. When I put in that low temp today I certainly wasn't expecting to get my crosshairs back, dotted or not! This charting stuff can be so confusing! I am hoping I will understand it better as time goes on...

Hula1974
10-30-2005, 05:09 AM
Thanks to everyone for the AF condolences :(

I haven't temp'd during AF this month. When it comes during a weekend it's so easy to sleep through!!

Not looking good for me for Nov. since DH and I each have business trips during what I suspect will be my fertile time. However, we'll give a good try when we can and hope for the best. With all the baby dust flying around in here lately there just might be hope!

Good luck to all the upcoming testers :)

gmb4503
10-30-2005, 06:59 AM
Hi Ladies!! I took some time off from this thread and charting to clear my head and I am ready to jump in again :)

Threadmistress, please add me back to the list:

CC Name: gmb4503
Me: Gina/26
DH: Steve/27
Married since: April 5, 2003
Off BCP since: Sept 2003
TTC since: June 2004
Charting since: Sept 2004
Known issues/test results: SA-normal, taking 50mg Clomid
Chart: http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/28f73
Current status: waiting to O

mkvh
10-30-2005, 07:28 AM
Welcome, Gina!

Just subscribing and waiting...9 DPO today, temp is creeping up daily. Go temp go!

Dotsie
10-30-2005, 07:41 AM
Welcome Gina
Congrats to all of those who got their BFP's!! Here's to a H&H 9 months:)

Temp plummeted today and I'm feeling AF so I'm not pg this month. I was thinking about not coming onto constantchatter family boards for a while because it is so hard. I am so happy for everyone who get's their bfp's but so sad at the same time. I got pg with DS so fast I just assumed I would again this time around...guess not:rolleyes: Right now I"m just in a blue funk, I'll be o.k. once AF gets here and another cycle begins. I thank everyone for their support. You ladies are awesome and every single one of us are going to be awesome mom's some day (sooner than later please). Have a wonderful Sunday.

MichelleRenee
10-30-2005, 08:28 AM
Oh, Dotsie. Don't feel blue. We are here for you. I am really praying that November is your month.

CTs_Punkin
10-30-2005, 08:48 AM
Just checking in... looks like AF is on her way for me... spotting began Friday, so not it's just hurry up and wait! :)

Wow... Congrats to Klav, Shelbymay & Wrighty You guys snuck in there on me... and didn't see until I checked e-mail today.. Congrats & happy & healthy 9 months for you all.

Hoping November turns out as fertile as October was for us... With AF coming, I can call the DR to get an appt for an HSG. Crossing my fingers that there isn't anything wrong & I can start Clomid soon.

Happy Sunday to you all.
MMT

Charting is Knowledge
10-30-2005, 09:09 AM
Updated to here!!!!

Welcome to gmb4503...may your stay be short and sweet

:p

MichelleRenee
10-30-2005, 10:35 AM
It is CD 23 and today I had TONS of EWCM. It even had me doubting that the EWCM I had earlier this cycle wasn't really EWCM at all. It was cloudy before, and stretchy, but not super stretchy. This was clear and very, very stretchy. I have never seen it like that before, except on pictures!

It's a little late in my cycle (I think) for it to mean anything, but I'll take what I can get!

UTChick
10-30-2005, 10:38 AM
Michelle~I have O'ed anywhere from CD 19 - CD 30, so it is not too late in your cycle to mean something! BD ASAP!! :D

MichelleRenee
10-30-2005, 10:39 AM
LOL... we just did this morning!:D

UTChick
10-30-2005, 10:41 AM
Good girl! ;)

polkadot
10-30-2005, 11:14 AM
michele- just wanted to say that one cycle i didnt o until day 25..there is always hope...keep BDing...

Abby'sMom
10-30-2005, 02:39 PM
Joinin' up for round 2:

Abby'sMom
Me: 27
DH: 27
Married: 8/17/02
DD: Abby, 11/3/04
Known issues/test results: none

I ended up being a SAI member last time around, so I'm really hoping to not go down that round again. Too emotionally draining. Don't have an online chart at the moment; we're half charting and half seeing what happens.

ETA - O'ing around CD 25 has generally been a fact of life for me. It ain't over til it's over.

Wrighty26
10-30-2005, 02:57 PM
I have no problems with you graduating me because I officially got a "pregnant" on a digital test (ept)!!!

It's very surreal. I'm excited, but tremedously cautious :D Thank you ladies for all of the support!

I will definitely be chart stalking...I hope November brings lots of pretty BFPs!

UTChick
10-30-2005, 03:02 PM
Michelle~I am so happy for you! I know this has been a hard and emotional road for you at times. Lots of sticky vibes being sent your way! :D
And a "take that!" to that silly doctor! :p

Charting is Knowledge
10-30-2005, 03:03 PM
Updated to here!

Congrats Wrighty26! Welcome Abby'sMom!

purplesunshine7
10-30-2005, 03:13 PM
hi ladies,
I just started temping today. it was 98.6 does that seem high to anyone, i am on cd7.

UTChick
10-30-2005, 03:21 PM
purplesunshine7~Everyone is different when it comes to temp levels, so it may be perfectly normal for you. When are you temping? It is recommended that you temp at the same time every morning before getting out of bed. I keep my thermometer on my night stand and when my alarm goes off, I immediately temp. At the beginning of my cycles, my temps are still pretty high. I have long cycles so my temps don't start falling typically until well after AF, sometimes as late as CD 14 (when a lot of women are already Oing). So, that also depends on the individual as well. I hope that helps. And, welcome to the world of charting! :)

gator97
10-30-2005, 03:35 PM
Wrighty-- an OFFICIAL congratulations! Wishing you a happy, healthy, sticky nine months! Please come back and drop off some baby dust from time to time.

Welcome Abbysmom--- hope it's a short stay for you.

Ilovemygeek
10-30-2005, 04:40 PM
Congrats Wrighty26!
Welcome to all the newcomers!

I am 11DPO, but I do not think this is our cycle. Our timing was not great because I had EWCM for so long that we actually got tired from all the BD, and, of course, I finally O'd when we decided to take a small break. Go figure.

spencer's_girl
10-30-2005, 04:40 PM
wow i have missed a lot
CONGRATS TO ALL THE BFP'S I MISSED WHILE I WAS AWAY
i have been so busy lately i started a new job and i'm still getting use to working outside of the home again. on the bright side after a year of not Oing most months i have O'ed two months in a row so maybe now that i no longer have the stress of caring for my disabled mother in my life i might get pg.

a question for all of you where do you buy your test's (opk's and pg) at i need cheap test's that are accurate i tried some that i bought online but i didn't like them at all. TIA

gmb4503
10-30-2005, 06:00 PM
Thanks ladies for the warm welcome :D

I was thinking about not coming onto constantchatter family boards for a while because it is so hard. I am so happy for everyone who get's their bfp's but so sad at the same time.
I completely understand!!! That's actually why I left the thread 3-4 months ago. It was just so hard to see everyone moving on without me. We took a break from everything last cycle (temping & Clomid included!) and I feel SOO much better!! {{BIG HUGS}}

ShelbyMay
10-30-2005, 06:05 PM
a question for all of you where do you buy your test's (opk's and pg) at i need cheap test's that are accurate i tried some that i bought online but i didn't like them at all. TIA

I got my first BFP on a test from Dollar Tree, then I followed it up with a more expensive test just to be sure.

Bellefior
10-30-2005, 06:31 PM
CD 28, 10 DPO, temps still elevated and still no sign of AF, though I have still been having the spotting/ light bleeding on and off that I have had for the past 5 days (not enough to need more than a pantyliner). This cycle just has been so weird in comparison to the last 5 I've charted.I'll be taking another test in the morning. Couldn't today b/c we spent the night at the ILs and that's all they need to see in the trash!

MichelleRenee
10-30-2005, 07:09 PM
Today has kind of been a day of firsts. I thought I had my first EWCM (since starting to chart) last week, but what I had today was completely different. It was definitely EWCM. I have also had a lot of cramping in my abdomen. It comes and goes and it is a lot different from my usual cramps.

I am really not sure about my temp today. I woke up extra early and took my temp just in case I didn't fall back asleep. It was 96.4, which is a new low for me. I was freezing cold when I woke up because *someone* took all the blankets and I just knew my temp would be low. Then I feel asleep again for a little more than 3 hours and woke up a little bit after my normal temp time. All I did between the two temps was go pee and sleep. I temped again and it was 97.4. So I really don't know which would be accurate. I charted the higher one because it looks nicer, but made a note so I remember. I can't believe how much your temp can fluctuate in such a short amount of time. It has me determined to do a better job of doing it at the same time each day next month.

I also got a new thermometer. It is a BBT one. They only had one brand, which happened to be a store brand one. It is the same brand as my other thermometer. The only difference is that one is purple and reads to .00 and the other is white and reads to .0. Does anyone know why a BBT thermometer is considered so much more accurate? Is it just because it reads to .00, or does it actually read temp better? I would like to think that a fever one is accurate in case I ever have to use one for my child.

Anyways, just wondering about that.

polkadot
10-30-2005, 07:13 PM
Ok, i have a question....i have had a HUGE migraine all day....in fact i woke up with it, and it has only gotten worse....i started throwing up this afternoon. i had to give in an take a painkiller which i DID NOT want to do know i am worried that it could be bad if there is or was a bean in there when i took the medicine....but i knew if i didnt the migraine wouldnt go away and i would need a shot tomorrow morning from my dr. So, do you think i made a horrible mistake....:o It didnot have asprin in it but its still a pain killer....and to tell you the truth it didnt make it go away completley just enought for me to stop vomiting and long enough for me to post the question....i am only 6 DPO...so implant wouldnt have even taken place yet right? What do you all think....thanks in advance.....

MichelleRenee
10-30-2005, 07:51 PM
Polkadot, I am so sorry about the migraine. I hope you start to feel better!

I just wanted to let everyone know about a little experiment I did. I put both thermometers in my mouth at the same time to see if they came up the same. The fever one read 97.2 and the BBT one read 97.43. Not a huge difference, but you would think they'd both be the same.

Abby'sMom
10-30-2005, 08:57 PM
polkadot, don't worry. i'm sure i took tylenol or something when i was pg with my dd, and probably in the 1st trimester. and yes, it's unlikely that implantation would have occurred yet anyway. it's worse for you to be sick and throwing up than to take tylenol.

gator97
10-31-2005, 04:44 AM
polkadot--even if implantation had already occurred (which it probably hasn't), it is too early for the placenta to have been formed. . . and that is when the baby starts to take nutrients from you. . before then it is self-sufficient. Hope you are feeling better.

Linnybubbles
10-31-2005, 05:05 AM
Is it bad when my temps are basically in a straight line right now? Anyway, I had a weird dream last night that I had EWCM, and I could not find DH anywhere. Also, I was trying to temp, but I could not manage to get the thermometer turned on. You know that I am thinking way too much about this right now when I start dreaming about it!

Bellefior
10-31-2005, 05:34 AM
Another BFN this morning...or actually 2 since I used 2 different tests.

I just don't get it. This cycle is just so weird since compared to the other ones. I'm currently CD 29 and 11 DPO and still spotting like I have been since last Weds! My temps are still elevated and I am not seeing a drop. I've also been having wicked heartburn.

Usually by this time, AF is usually here. The longest cycle I ever had was the 1st month off BCP which was 30 CD and 13 LF, everything else is usually 28-29 days average, 11 day LF average. So if I don't get AF tommorrow, I'll have at least matched my longest cycle. I'll be grabbing some more tests at lunchtime today, but decided if it is still negative by weeks end and no sign of AF, then its time to call the doctor to see what's going on.

Wrighty26
10-31-2005, 05:44 AM
Bellefior - I was in the same situation as you-- I had consistently high temps yet when I tested on 12DPO I got negatives. I had a very very very faint positive on 13DPO with a Target HPT (but negatives with any other brand) and the line's have since gotten increasingly darker. So, don't give up! What brands are you testing with?

Mystikal
10-31-2005, 05:51 AM
Bellefior check out MCD's chart. I believe she had lots of spotting and didn't get a BFP till about 13dpo or so. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you!

Bellefior
10-31-2005, 05:51 AM
Wrighty I've been using Clearblue Easy Early Response. I also took a CBE Digital this morning even though I know the threshold for detection on those is much higher.

Did you have spotting as well before your got your BFP?

Mystikal I didn't see a chart for MCD in the list? Can you point me in the right direction? ETA-never mind, I found it, thanks!

mkvh
10-31-2005, 06:15 AM
Wow...busy day yesterday.

An OFFICIAL congrats to Wrighty!!!! (And I'm giving your dr. a virtual and not very nice hand signal right now!)

And {{{HUGS}}} to Dotsie.


No time for true SOs right now...gotta work :( I'm 10 DPO today, very crampy for the last few days waaayy low. Just waiting patiently and not trying to read anything into my FPS...

katmg
10-31-2005, 06:18 AM
Wow - I missed a bunch of BFPs. Congrats to all!

AF showed up Saturday morning, right after I tested and got a BFN. :( Please move me to waiting to O.

I don't think this month is going to be very lucky for us. DH is traveling right around the time I should O. It will be quite the feat if we catch the egg this month. :(

jeggink
10-31-2005, 06:54 AM
Wright, Klav and ShelbyMay Congrats on your BFPs!!!!

Sorry to those that got AF :(.

Abby'sMom Hey Sherry, guess we are both at it again around the same time again :).

Gotta keep this short for right now, not thinking this is the cycle which is fine. I am just thrilled that my first pp cycle is looking relatively normal so far! Hoping there are some more BFPs soon!

Mystikal
10-31-2005, 07:04 AM
kat don't give up hope. My DH was supposed to be gone around the time FF was saying I would O and my body cooperated for once and O'ed three days early-the day he left, so we were able to get in some AM BD, which never happens with us. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!!

Dotsie
10-31-2005, 07:20 AM
Threadmistress please move me to waiting to O

cat_loverpq
10-31-2005, 07:42 AM
Welcome Abby'sMom!

Dotsie ~ Ugh. I was so sure this was it for you! :(

Wrighty ~ Official CONGRATULATIONS!!

katmg ~ Stranger things have happened...don't give up just yet!

Mystikal ~ Can I ask where you got your avatar? That pic is so darn cute...makes me smile every time I see it. :)

I hope everyone has a HAPPY HALLOWEEN!!http://www.handykult.de/plaudersmilies.de/tales/frankie.gif

Charting is Knowledge
10-31-2005, 08:29 AM
Updated to here!

Happy Halloween!

amurphy
10-31-2005, 08:35 AM
Congratulations to Wright, Klav and ShelbyMay!!! :D

I'm so excited for all of you!!! Wishing you all a happy & healthy pregnancy!

mayham
10-31-2005, 08:46 AM
After a one cycle charting break, I'm back to charting and would love to re-join this thread. I have an appointment with a new gyn this month, so I'm hoping the charting info will help inform her more of my situation.

Can you please update my stats? There are stats on the front page for me that aren't correct, I think part of them were copied from the person before me on the list.

Here are my details. Please put me in Waiting to O. Thanks!!

Mayham
Me: 28
DH: 28
Married since: 5.02
TTC since: 3.05
Charting since: 5.05
Known issues/test results: None

MichelleRenee
10-31-2005, 08:57 AM
I just feel like crap right now. My whole stomach, from right under my ribcage all the way down my abdomen, is just sore and achy. It's like one huge menstrual cramp.

Still no major temp shift, and I still had EWCM late last night.

Charting is Knowledge
10-31-2005, 09:30 AM
Updated to here!

Mayham Thanks for posting your stats again!

jnshanna
10-31-2005, 09:32 AM
Threadmistress, could you please move me to "Testing 11/7 - 11/13"?

I'm pretty sure I'm starting my 2WW over again. :rolleyes: I suppose I should have known based on my CM but I was tricking myself into believing my 2WW was almost over. LOL Not the smartest choice, I suppose. I should be happy though since our BD timing was a little bit better based on CD23 as my O date. :)

papergirl
10-31-2005, 10:29 AM
This wasn't our month. Threadmater, please move me to waiting to O.

klav
10-31-2005, 11:14 AM
I have some OPK's (4) left , 2 unopened preseed's and some PG test if any one is interested in them for a small fee. and postage Just email me and I'll let you know the exact # of everything. Best wishes to you all! thanks for all the support and I Hope more Babies to come!! I'll peek in when possible
thank YOU all!!
you have no idea how estatic we are!!:D :D

Dotsie
10-31-2005, 12:04 PM
klav - congrats...and you have mail :)

Bellefior
10-31-2005, 01:10 PM
Looks like the spotting has turned into AF...definitely more of it and brighter red. Guess I don't need to run across the street from work for the HPTs today. My symptoms just really had me going, we'll see if my temp drops tommorrow. I really thought this was it.

I guess the one thing this taught me is I really need to chart in order to compare cycles, so I will be back to full charting next cycle.

Threadmistress please move me from SWH and to the waiting to O section. Thanks

MichelleRenee
10-31-2005, 01:39 PM
I really think I am Oing today. This crampiness just won't go away. If I were PG right now I would swear the baby is moving, because I feel like I have a fish swimming around in my abdomen. I don't have gas or anything... it's just a crampy, weird feeling.

I hope I have a big temp jump tomorrow so I can finally be sure of my O.

Hula1974
10-31-2005, 05:27 PM
I don't think this month is going to be very lucky for us. DH is traveling right around the time I should O. It will be quite the feat if we catch the egg this month. :(

Same boat for me. We're BOTH traveling. Hey, maybe my body will delay my O from traveling?!

Official congrats to Michelle.

Sorry to those AF found. This month will be our month!

MichelleRenee
10-31-2005, 05:43 PM
Update: the crampiness is now a very small, isolated pain right by my right ovary. It really only hurts when I move my torso. I am thinking I ovulated today.

Charting is Knowledge
10-31-2005, 07:05 PM
Updated to here!

Mystikal
10-31-2005, 07:06 PM
catlover actually red_canuck made it for me. She's very talented. :) She made three and I use a different one on each message board I go to.
dotsie I'm sorry about AF. Stupid witch. :( ((HUGS))

Sabriel
10-31-2005, 07:25 PM
MichelleRenee I hope you are Oing! It sounds like it.

katmg and Hula1974 I hope your bodies cooperate this month and O when you're with your DHs!

bumble and Bellefior Sorry about AF. :(

jnshanna It looks like you did O this time!

Well, we were supposedly TTA this month, but got caught up in a momont of passion. ;) I'm pretty sure I Oed that very day, so I am now in a 2WW. I have an follow-up appointment (from the m/c) with my midwife tomorrow. I have no idea how long she wanted us to wait before TTC again. We are definitely ready over here.

Hope everyone had a good Halloween!

MichelleRenee
10-31-2005, 07:28 PM
Oooh, Sabriel, moment of passion! Sounds like fun! We had one at 1 this morning!

polkadot
10-31-2005, 07:56 PM
First of all..Sabriel....you go girl...swept up in a moment of passion huh? Sounds good to me...thanks for updating i've been crazy busy...;)

Michelle- that could be good, just think of it as a little bean pushing its way in there....or that you are defintley Oing...either way its good.

Hula- i hope this is everybodys month!!!

bellefior- sorry about AF she sucks, that witch....:mad:

ok i think i got everybody...if not i am sorry i will try next time....well this cycle seems to be kinda weird...usually i am feeling every little thing...but this time ....not so much....so who knows...i would LOVE for this to be it...but i guess we will have to see....night before last i had the stangest thing happen....i was laying down going to sleep and felt like this pain almost like piercing i my tummy and almost through my whole torso...i thought it was strange...justhought i'd mention it...maybe it could be implant? but i didnt temp yesterday so i dont know if my temp went down or not...oh well we'll see what the rest of the week brings....i am going to try and hold out until Saturday mornign to test by then i will be 12 DPO...we are going to our last LSU game of the season so i wanna be able to drink if i am not PG....later girls

ABirney
10-31-2005, 07:57 PM
Hey ladies!
Official Congrats to Wrighty!!!!
Welcome (back) to Abbysmom, gmb, and mayham!!
Sorry AF showed Dotsie, katmg, bellefior, and bumble.
Happy Halloween everyone!!!

Mystikal
11-01-2005, 04:42 AM
Just dropping off a fresh load of
~*~*BABY DUST*~*~
on the first day of November! Come on BFP's!!!!! :D

Bellefior
11-01-2005, 06:00 AM
Ladies I plan on calling the doctor today to find out WTF is going on. I had some bleeding yesterday that made me think AF was on its way (enough to soak a pantyliner, but not enough to even spot on a pad when I replaced it). I did take another test today just in case it was some weird implantation bleeding and it also came back negative. This is not a normal AF for me, if that it what it is. My temp also dropped to 98.3 which is lower but not significantly lower. I'm hoping to get a blood test that will confirm once and for all this is not implantation bleeding (its very very light) and I am not pregnant. If nothing else the doctor can give me some kind of explanation as to why my body seems so out of whack. I'll keep you posted.

jeggink
11-01-2005, 07:13 AM
Bellefior I hope your dr gets things figured out!!

Sabriel Sigh, I love thos passonate moments, they are so hard to have with a toddler now!

polkadot Hmmm, sounds interesting!! When I was 9-10 DPO when pg with DS I also had a very sharp cramp all of a sudden, it hurt really bad and then just went away like nothing happened.

Michelle Here's hoping that you O'd!

I am having some serious cramping today and had some yesterday as well. It sucks and hurts sitting here at my desk. I have a feeling AF is right around the corner. The only thing is I am not sure what day. I am 10DPO and it used to come at ~13 DPO, so we shall see. I will probably test on Thursday or Friday morning though if I have not gotten AF at that point.

lindybug
11-01-2005, 07:16 AM
7 DPO, so 6 or 7 days left in my 2WW... Although I don't think I can wait that long to test! No FPS yet, and my chart looks just like it always does. But then again, it probably wouldn't look any different yet anyway.

Implant, baby, implant! ;)

MichelleRenee
11-01-2005, 08:23 AM
Mystikal, thanks for the babydust!

Bellefior, I hope you find out what is going on soon, and I hope it is good news!

Jeggink, thank you! I hoe I O'ed too! I am sorry you are having cramping. Hopefully AF will stay away!

Lindybug, I'm praying for you! I hope this is it!

I feel much better today. I don't have any cramping or anything. My temp went up today, but barely. (from 97.27-97.33) So I still don't have any definite signs that I O'ed. I am just hoping that if AF is going to show up it shows up on schedule so I can get on with a new cycle.

Last month my nipples got really sore around CD22 and that lasted for almost a week. Today is CD25 and I haven't had any FPS. No sore nipples or anything. I'm not gonna complain... it is nice to be able to lay on my stomach.

Dotsie
11-01-2005, 10:08 AM
All right I'm back. It took a couple of days for me to get my head clear. New cycle, new attitude. It's going to happen for me, I just don't know when, I have to keep thinking that. My bf irl came over my house and got 2 BFP's in my powder room this morning. That helped me a lot. That being said....let the waiting begin :D oh, cd2 here...that sucks :rolleyes:

bellefior I hope your doc can find out what's going on...good luck!!
Michelle Thank you for your kinds words. I hope this is your month...yay for the big O.
lindybug good luck. Only a few more days til you can test. I hope it's a good outcome.
Sabriel Welcome back...hopefully you'll get a bfp this month.
polkadot sounds very promising.
Mystikal Thanks for the baby dust. Keep bringin it sista!! :D
Anyone use preseed? I'm going to use it for the 1st time this month and I want to know some feedback.
My best friend kept saying for months that she was going to get pg in October with a little girl. Well she got pg in October. I swear that girl is psychic. She says she has a feeling that this is my month. I told her I hope so!!

Good Luck everyone.

Bellefior
11-01-2005, 10:35 AM
I talked to the doctor's office earlier today, or actually, her nurse. She is of the belief that this is just a weird period, especially with the 4 BFNs, but because this is just so weird for me anyway, they are having me go into the lab on Thurs. to do a blood draw just to confirm. She said I did the right thing by calling. Also, if the bleeding continues into next week, definitely to call them back after the test.

polkadot
11-01-2005, 12:01 PM
Dotsie- yeah...for a new attitude....that is so good...i am glad you are back with a good outlook and who knows maybe the BFP's in your bathroom with rub off on you;)

bellefior- i hope the dr. can give you some insight to what is going on..

Michelle- crossing crossables that you O'ed...good luck

lindybug- ohhh...i will have to chart stalk...cant wait for the weekend...hope it brings you a BFP!!!


Mystikal- i agree with Dotsie.. Thanks for the baby dust. Keep bringin it sista!!

i am having a few weird pains today very low on the left side kinda weird....lets hope that the weirdness turns to goodness.....he he:D

katmg
11-01-2005, 12:53 PM
CD 4 for me - Yawn. I did make an appt. with my OB/Gyn today for my yearly exam. Hopefully she'll have some idea of why we're not pg. yet. I don't see anything in my chart that would prevent us from having gotten pg. So frustrating...

Dotsie - I haven't used pre-seed but I've thought about it! Maybe next cycle I'll try it out...

Deanna1018
11-01-2005, 02:48 PM
Hello everyone!!! Can I join in even though we are not officially TTC until Jan 06'? I have been lurking for a little while and everyone in here is so supportive of each other.

mkvh
11-01-2005, 03:10 PM
Welcome Deanna!!

No time for SOs...on my way out the door. But I'm thinking about all of you ladies! Catch the eggie...or patience in waiting to test!!!!


I'm 11 DPO today. My chart is not remarkable. Crampy for the last few days and tender bbs. Other than that, no "symptoms". Holding out till Friday to test (IF I can make it through the next 2 mornings) as long as my temp stays up that long...

Deanna1018
11-01-2005, 03:16 PM
Here is all of my info. Please add me to the list. From what I see I think I am the oldest one here...

Deanna1018
Me:37
DH:38
Married since: 9-6-03
TTC since: Will start Jan 06'
Charting since: October 2005
Known issues/test results: None

Dotsie
11-01-2005, 04:21 PM
Welcome Deanna. Hope your stay here is short and sweet :) FYI, please put all your updates in red so our threadmistress can see it.

Wrighty26
11-01-2005, 04:37 PM
mkvh - What are you talking about? Your chart is not unremarkable! It's looking good :D

Dropping off some ~BABY DUST~ for all of you!

polkadot
11-01-2005, 05:23 PM
this may be way to weird but i knew check my horoscope and today i just did....Things are probably going quite well for you at the moment, even if you happen to be experiencing what one might call a rather startling awakening. It's time for a whole new start, and you're more than ready.

that would be nice right about now....come on Saturday...i am dying over here....and i just got back from Walmart and did not buy any test....i am trying to wait until Saturday to avoid any BFN if at all possible....

but i do think i may have found another FPS....i am constantly getting really hot...all of a sudden....its been happening a lot in the last few days....last night i actually took my temp b/c my face was burnign up...huh????

Deanna1018
11-01-2005, 05:25 PM
Thanks Dotsie

Threadmistress please add me to the list. Thank you!

Deanna1018
Me:37
DH:38
Married since: 9-6-03
TTC since: Will start Jan 06'
Charting since: October 2005
Known issues/test results: None

Soulmate
11-01-2005, 06:37 PM
Polkadot last night i actually took my temp b/c my face was burnign up...huh???? That was one of my preggo signs ;) I too would take my temp because I felt feverish and my face would flush very easily. Mine started at 6DPO *crossing fingers*

~*~*~*~*~*~*~BABY DUST*~*~*~*~*~*~ to all you ladies in the 2ww!

ABirney
11-01-2005, 07:16 PM
Welcome Deanna!
Nothing new to report here.. same old stuff.
Good luck to those testing soon and to those O'ing!

polkadot
11-01-2005, 07:25 PM
great soulmate....now thats just something else for me to freak out about...he he;) i wasnt thinking very positive about this cycle...but now my feelings are starting to change....i am usually a hot person...but this is ridiculous....hope it means something:D

welcome Deanna!!:D

ptcrn
11-01-2005, 07:40 PM
I'm behind again!!

Congrats to klav, wrighty, and ShelbyMay on your BFP's!!! Keep sending baby dust our way! Hopefully the trend continues well into November. :D

polkadot, I hope that's a RPS instead of a FPS! Your chart is looking awesome. Good luck holding out on testing until Saturday.

I agree with Wrighty, mkvh, your chart looks great! Thinking BFP thoughts for you!

Welcome Deanna!

Dotsie, I'm planning to use preseed next month too if I don't get a BFP. My CM is really not very good and I've read good things about the preseed. Sorry I don't have any real feedback for you. Good luck to you!

Sorry to anyone I missed!

I am currently 4 dpo, I O'd just in time to go out of town! Whew! :p I have a good feeling, but trying not to get my hopes up. But this is the first time I've ever gotten solid crosshairs from FF instead of dotted. That's gotta be good, right? I almost think I O'd on Thursday instead of Friday, but either way. I'm going to try not to test until the 13th because my LP is usually 16 days.

So, threadmistress, can you move me to Think I O'd, testing 11/7 to 11/13? Thanks!

kmmommy
11-01-2005, 07:54 PM
polkadot ~ That was one of the big first signs when I was pg with DS. In fact, 3 days before I got my BFP I was complaining about being so hot I'd go outside at the end of December with no jacket. It's cold here. Your chart looks really promising! I'm definitely keeping my fingers crossed for you - BABY DUST!!!

Charting is Knowledge
11-01-2005, 07:55 PM
updated to here
:p

polkadot
11-01-2005, 07:58 PM
i now want to POAS b/c ya'll are giving me hope...its killing me....if i knew it would aleaveate the stress i am under right now i would test but it would prob. be BFN and i cant take that today....but thanks for all the good wishes and postiive thoughts...:D

spencer's_girl
11-01-2005, 08:40 PM
thanks for the reply's but i work at the dallar store so i don't want to buy them there cause no one knows we are ttc. well CD 16 today and i'm getting EWCM so i should O soon

melissa

Deanna1018
11-02-2005, 03:50 AM
Good Morning everyone! One quick question. Could having the flu shot screw up my cycle? I am on day 2 of my cycle and I am scheduled to get my flu shot today. I am going back and forth on whether I should get the shot this year. Thanks for any and all thoughts.

Mystikal
11-02-2005, 05:36 AM
polkadot not to add fuel to the fire, but that just made me realize I had the same thing happen to me starting around 7dpo or so. I never even attributed that so pg, but maybe it was! I'm keeping all crossables crossed for you!

Linnybubbles
11-02-2005, 06:04 AM
I am getting so frustrated with this already. My temps are basically a straight line, and my CM never really seems to change. I have this feeling that I have not O'd yet since coming off BCP. Trying to be positive though...:confused:
http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2330

polkadot
11-02-2005, 06:10 AM
thanks mystikal....yes that is adding fuel to the fire..but i am not testing yet...i keep repeating that to myself in my head..temps went up today...i think if i get another high temp tomorrow FF may call tripahsic...what do yall think?

later chickies

:p

Dotsie
11-02-2005, 06:16 AM
polkadot Your chart looks awesome. I hope this is it!! Don't get your hopes up with being triphasic. I had that last month and wasn't pg.

Mystikal
11-02-2005, 06:18 AM
polkadot I'm definitely NOT telling you to test. It's still way too early for that. I got my BFP at 12dpo and it was so faint DH didn't even really believe it. Wait a few more days and hopefully you'll have a blazing beautiful BFP!

jeggink
11-02-2005, 06:23 AM
Polkadot You chart is looking good!

Linnybubbles It's still early in your cycle so don't dispair :). I usually don't O until day 20 and that is pretty normal.

Deanna1018 I think the flu shot impact would be relatively minor and only for 1-2 days or so.

mkvh You chart is also looking good.

Well, I broke down today and tested and got a BFN. I am cramping really really bad, it is sooo horrible. I know this would be my 2nd AF since having DS and that could exlain why I hurt so much. My abs and back even hurt. I took an advil this morning just to be able to function. I am extremely moody and have no patience what so ever. I am expecting my temps to start going down in the next day or two, but if they are still up on Sat then I will test again, but am not expecting that to happen. Vent over :)

Here's hoping there are some BFP's in the next few days :).

MichelleRenee
11-02-2005, 06:26 AM
I think I O'ed on CD22.

lindybug
11-02-2005, 06:38 AM
8 DPO. Had my first FPS yesterday... AF-like cramps for a few hours on my left side down there. AF has never arrived before 14 DPO, so that was interesting.

Also, a guy at work asked if I was expecting! I couldn't believe he had the nerve to ask that, LOL. (Especially when I've just lost about 16 pounds!) He said it wasn't because I looked bigger though, it was because I looked happy and glowing. Interesting! Perhaps he is psychic. ;)

polkadot ~ You are a day ahead of me... Don't test yet, so I don't feel pressured to test too! ;) Trying to wait until this weekend. It's torture!

mkvh
11-02-2005, 06:39 AM
I concurn, MichelleRenee!!

jeggink--your chart's not looking so bad, either! ;) And I second the impatient and moody thing. I got irrationally mad at DH last night because I wasn't in the mood for what he has made for dinner.

polkadot--repeating right along with you...I will not test. I will not test. I will not test." And I wanted to say that I too have been having hot flashes. Totally out of the blue. Started Monday that I can recall. And I am always FREEZING. Hmmmm.... Oh, and Soulmate, I took my temp last night also because I was SOO hot. Randomly it was a full degree higher than the night before (when I was making sure my therm wasn't broken).

linnybubbles--nope, no O yet. But it's still early! Don't get discouraged. There are lots of ladies around here who routinely O past the CD 20 mark. Hang in there, keep an eye on your CM, and when in doubt, BD! :D

I know I am missing some of you. Hope everyone is doing well wherever you are in your cycle. Thinking of all of you...


Temp went up .1 again this morning. 12 DPO. And 12 DPO was my last high temp in Sept (my only complete and normal cycle since TTC). So tomorrow's temp truly will tell. Hoping, hoping, hoping!

polkadot
11-02-2005, 06:43 AM
dotsie- i had the same thing last month....went tripahsic and had really high temps thought i saw some spotting and NOTHING..not PG...i just think it could be trripahsic if my temps stay where they are...i am being optomistically cautious :cool:

mystikal- thanks for the confidnece..i will not test i will not test....i am refusing to let myself test until Saturday b/c by then i willhave a reason and i figure if i am PG then i wont NEED to know until then then i will be 12DPO..hoping it BFP by then......

jeggink- i think your chart still may have promise...your temps are still up and it isnt over until she shows....thinking BFP thoughts for you....

michelle- i tend to agree with you ....i think you oed on cycle day 22:)

Linnybubbles- i usually dont o until later in my cycle...but then again its not late for you...its just normal....**shaking fist** at FF for making us think we are late O'ers...maybe everyone else is just early Oers...:p

Deanna1018- i would call the dr office and ask, it may make your temp go up for a fewe days but other than that i dont think it should be a huge deal....

mkvh- i think your chart is looking good...good luck


alright off to work...
:p

klav
11-02-2005, 06:52 AM
SENDING
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~BABYDUST~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~BABYDUST~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
i'M 4 weeks 2 days!! yipppieee

graciebella
11-02-2005, 08:06 AM
Anxiously awaiting O here, CD14. This is first clomid cycle. Fortunately there were no detectable side effects yet. But no sign of O either. GRRR. I even broke down and bought OPK yesterday.

trying not to obsess.

Trying not to obsess.

TRYING.NOT.TO. OBSESS.

cat_loverpq
11-02-2005, 08:15 AM
My dr's office called yesterday and said that my thyroid levels came back abnormal from my blood test. I go back tomorrow for more tests, and then Tuesday I have an appt with my dr to discuss the results. I hate waiting, and I hate knowing that there could be something wrong with me. :( But hopefully it is something that is easily remedied, so we'll see.

My co-worker thinks she may have a triphasic chart this month. Does anyone know what the rule is for a 2nd temp shift? Is it still 2/10ths of a degree like the O shift? She is 10DPO and her temps were holding steady at 97.8-97.9 but today it shot up to 98.3. What does FF need to see to be able to call triphasic? 3 more "higher" temps?

Bellefior
11-02-2005, 08:19 AM
I think most of you read my post about how I was spotting all of last week, thought I was pregnant, had light flow that stopped, then started again. I spoke with the nurse yesterday who said she was certain I was not PG based on my negative HPTs and this was just a weird period. Anyway, they wanted me to come in for a blood test tommorrow. Well AF has arrived in all her glory, very heavy flow so its a certain that I am not pregnant now. Would you still keep the appt. anyway or cancel?

gmb4503
11-02-2005, 08:25 AM
Bellefior - I think I would call the office and ask the dr if s/he still wants you to come in.


My dr's office scheduled a HSG for me for this Monday. I am a bit nervous because I don't handle pain very well, but am excited at the same time because you are most fertile right after :) Hopefully this will do the trick!!!!

graciebella
11-02-2005, 08:31 AM
Bellefior I am a bit nervous because I don't handle pain very well, but am excited at the same time because you are most fertile right after :) Hopefully this will do the trick!!!!


Good luck on the HSG...I was advised to take 800mg advil/motrin 1/2 hour before the appointment. That might help with any pain. I was fortunate to not be more than uncomfortable through the proceedure.

jjsanner
11-02-2005, 09:29 AM
I've been lurking along....

Congrats Wrighty, Klav and anyone else I missed! H&H 9 months to you all!

Well, I'm 9 or 10 DPO today. Broke down and tested....BFN. I know it's still early, yada, yada. No symptoms at all, which is very strange because I am usually very crampy by now. Who knows. Either way it will be OK, because next cycle I start clomid, and I've been taking Metformin for a week now. I have a good feeling about it and my doc is very supportive!

I see there are a couple of ladies here who are my cycle buddies. I also see that you have much more willpower than me ;) . Here's to hoping! Polkadot, your chart does look good!

MichelleRenee
11-02-2005, 12:05 PM
Please move me to "Think I O'ed - Testing 11/7 - 11/13"

Thanks!

ajlanden
11-02-2005, 12:38 PM
Okay, so I was trying to wait to join until AF officially comes, but I just can't. I am too anxious! :D So can I join, even though I am on 7DPO of a TTA cycle? Pretty please? :confused:

CC Name: ajlanden
Me: Ashley, 28
DH: Doug, 33
Married since: 6/28/03
DD: Danielle Judith 12/15/04
Off BCP since: 8/05
TTC since: NOW!
Charting since: 8/12
Known issues/test results: M/C at 7 weeks 10/05
Chart: Link (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2fdee)
Current status: Waiting to O after AF...you can just put me in waiting to O

So excited to be a part of this thread again! Good luck ladies!

Charting is Knowledge
11-02-2005, 12:54 PM
Updated to here!

Welcome ajlanden!!!

ABirney
11-02-2005, 01:06 PM
Welcome ajlanden!!

jeggink
11-02-2005, 01:15 PM
Jesseybell I was just looking through the 1st page and happened to notice you are a DES daughter as well. If you have any questions on this and pregnancy, please let me know. I had to be monitored more closely because of this with DS.

ajlanden Welcome!

jjsaner sorry for the BFN. I did the same thing today at 11 DPO. I guess we will both find out in a few days!

jesseybell
11-02-2005, 04:38 PM
Thank you so much jeggink!!!- I probably will be asked you questions in the coming months. DES daughters are so far and few between and since we were at the tail end, there doesn't seem to be a lot that are still ttcing.

Instead of crossing posting from Family Planning threads about my whole infurtiating post about my "cancelled" HSG I will just highlight: My GYN was not able to be there so a radiologist was supposed to do it. I guess my cervix was not in the right position and she (or all radiologists??) didn't have the tools to move it so they weren't able to do the HSG. I am SO pissed off! I wish I had been told before that there was a chance of it not being sucessful without a GYN (I think I was not told because I personally think it was that radiologist, not all of them, who didn't know how). So I got the stirrups and the speculum and nothing else except a lot of sincere apologies (thank god) and a "See you next month" (since I am CD10 they won't reschedule until next month)...Yeah, well we are going to BD like rabbits and then maybe I won't have to go back!!

So I am CD10 and haven't picked up a thermometer this month. I used the monitor yesterday but not today. I'll probably start charting in full force tomorrow. But more than likely this cycle will be more of a "see what happens" so I can relax during our vacation and not be a peestick/thermometer freak...But right now I am just wanting to BD for the sake of it because it's been too long...Though probably not tonight because I actually am a little sore from the speculum. I sware it was the biggest one ever.

polkadot
11-02-2005, 07:10 PM
i will not test...i will not test....i will not test....

i cannot be bored any night this week...b/c i think i may just go crazy...i am doing everything in my power to not test...and it would prob. be BFN anyway b/c its too early...and i know this in my head but in all other places i wanna test....somebody ask a question...somebody have drama that i can fix...get my mind off of testing....for the love of baby!!!

ETA: Jessybell that sucks...lets hope you prove them wrong and get a BFP very soon..

MichelleRenee
11-02-2005, 07:39 PM
I am just fed up with my chart. I have no clue what is going on!! Different people have given me different advice on my O date and CL and everything. The consensus between people here and at FF is that my CL should be around 97.5 and I O'ed on CD25. I did an override with that info and I am hoping it is right. I feel like it is too late to really know what happened this cycle so it is all a guess.

I am mostly concerned now about my average LP and O date for future cycles. Is it better to leave my crosshairs where they are now, or should I switch them back to what FF gave me? Honestly, I only switched them to see what my chart would look like if everyone's predictions were true.

Polkadot stay strong, girl!! We are here for you! If you need a way to keep busy, try online scrabble at games.com. Works for me!

Jesseybell, that really sucks. I am so sorry you got jipped like that. How great to go through the whole stirrup/speculum thing for no reason.:rolleyes: I'm praying for you to not have to deal with any of this anymore very soon. Good luck!

Welcome ajlanden!

Jjsanner, I hope you get your BFP this cycle! If not, good luck with the Clomid.

polkadot
11-02-2005, 07:58 PM
i found something to keep myself occupied...

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/miracle/program.html


this could keep me busy for a while....you have to watch it if you havent seen it....

Aletheia
11-02-2005, 08:19 PM
I won't be TTC until December, but I want to jump in now as a cheerleader if it's okay! CD 1 should be in about 2 weeks or so.

CC Name: Aletheia, 28
DH: Mr. Ramsey, 28
Married since: August 7, 2004
Off BCP since: on briefly in 1999?
TTC since: December 1, 2005!
Charting since: March, 2005
Known issues/test results: none known
Chart: My Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a0c60)
Current status: waiting to O/cheerleader

Hooray!

polkadot
11-03-2005, 06:14 AM
well temp went down today and i know that prob. means nothing as it is too early for my temps to start dropping for AF....but i still dont like seeing it...hopefully they go back up tomorrow...and then i will feel MUCH better....

later girlies....anyone check out those video clips? It waas amazing to watch what may actually be happening in my body!

mkvh
11-03-2005, 06:25 AM
polkadot--WAAAY premature for counting yourself out sista! You have plenty of days left for that temp to go back up, up, up!!! And YOU CAN DO IT (not testing)!

jesseybell--sorry for the canceled HSG. It's nice to have being violated actually be USEFUL. Here's to BDing like rabbits and not NEEDING the HSG next month!

WELCOME ajlanden and alethia[/]b!

[b]MichelleRenee--starting to chart can be really frustrating. I'm pretty new to it to, and I totally understand where you're coming from. I still think there's a CHANCE that you Od earlier than CD25, but with the extra fertile CM, maybe not! Hopefully with a couple more cycles (unless this one was it :D ), your personal pattern will become much clearer!

jjsanner--sorry abou the BFN.


Okay, how hard was it for me NOT to test today!?!?!?! Temp is still high at 13 DPO...waiting to test till tomorrow!

Dotsie
11-03-2005, 06:29 AM
polkadot that temp drop is minor. I wouldn't stress out about that. Your chart still looks awesome...

Welcome Aletheia Thanks for being our cheerleader for the next month. Hope your stay here is short and sweet.

Me, I'm at cd4 :rolleyes: I'm excited about this upcoming cycle. We're going to try SMEP this month as well as using preseed, grapefruit juice, robistussin, opk's and I may even get a CBE monitor off EBAY. My best friend irl got her bfp's the other day and came over yesterday with some maternity outfits that she bought for me:eek: She got them really cheap at Old Navy for herself and bought me the same things. She's so sweet. They're hanging in my closet. I hope I'll need them sooner than later. Have a great morning everyone...I"m off to chart stalk.

Dotsie
11-03-2005, 06:31 AM
mkvh You have massive willpower girl. Everyone here knows I don't have that!!:p Your chart looks good. I can't wait to see that BFP!!

gmb4503
11-03-2005, 07:18 AM
Graciebella - Thanks! I will definitely be taking some Aleve before I go!!!

mkvh Great willpower you've got there!!! Fingers crossed for you :)



I am having a horrible time trying to find a replacement battery for my thermometer :mad: I went to 3 different pharmacy chains yesterday and nothing! I think I might try the internet today. I did buy a new thermometer at Walgreens and I hate it! It doesn't have a light and I couldn't get it to beep this morning :rolleyes: I may end up buying a whole new thermometer, but I don't care. I LOVED the one I had! The light really came in handy!!!

CD5 today. I did start drinking green tea again. I have found I have better results if I just drink it in the first few days and then stop.

ABirney
11-03-2005, 07:42 AM
There are some pretty charts out there... hoping to see some BFP's soon!
Thanks for that website polkadot it looks pretty cool!
Nothing new here in the charting world.. I didn't get an accurate temp today because I got called in to work at 6:30 to help with an emergency c-section on a yorkie so I was up and about when I took my temp while trying to call the dr back to let him know I could come in to work. In non-charting news, DH and I officially became home owners yesterday! We closed on our house at 3, then had to show it off to FIL. We won't actually move until the 12th because this weekend I work Sat and my grandma's 80th bday party is Sunday. I'm so excited though! Will move little stuff over in the evenings this week.
Well have a great day everyone!

lindybug
11-03-2005, 08:15 AM
9 DPO and going crazy. I don't think I'll make it through the weekend without testing. I'm not really feeling confident for some reason though... I guess because it's only my first month, and I really don't feel any different yet (not that I would, necessarily). I don't know how some of you ladies do this month after month. What a rollercoaster ride!

polkadot ~ Wow, thanks for sharing the link to that NOVA program. I've watched parts 1 - 5 already. It is amazing. And I love the way John Lithgow narrates it.

mkvh ~ You are an inspiration! ;) Good luck tomorrow!

ABirney ~ Congrats on becoming a homeowner. Did everything work out okay for the Yorkie? I don't suppose they need a home for any of those pups?! LOL I am dying for a Yorkie.

gmb4503 ~ Ugh, so frustrating about the thermometer. I wish mine had a light... I actually have to turn my bedside light on for a second to read it!

Dotsie ~ Sounds like you are prepared for this next cycle, LOL. That is so sweet of your friend to buy you maternity clothes. I hope you can use them soon! (I need some new winter clothes, but I'm holding off, just in case I get preggo. Why buy new regular clothes, when I could be needing maternity stuff in a few months?!)

MichelleRenee ~ Hang in there! Not sure what to tell you about the crosshairs... I guess just leave them as is, and if AF comes, you can count back your normal LP length, and know when you O'd. Of course, hoping that witch stays away anyway. ;)

jesseybell ~ So sorry about your gyn visit. Hope you're feeling better today.

jjsanner ~ Hoping for you this weekend!

Welcome to Aletheia and ajlanden.

jesseybell
11-03-2005, 08:24 AM
Thank you everyone for the comments about my buggered HSG yesterday.

I feel so differently about this cycle, just because I know more. I still haven't temped (I've been staying up so late that I sleep through when I should temp and I just don't feel like setting the alarm). The monitor hit High this morning, but last month it hit High at CD 10 also, so it could be on High for the next 10-11 days, so I am being pretty laid back about it all. Last cycle we were BDing crazy from CD10-CD24 and it was pretty mentally exhausting!

I need to go call the GYN office after a meeting.

Bellefior
11-03-2005, 08:29 AM
Well I talked to the doctor's office yesterday and they agreed I did not need to come in for the blood test since AF had arrived full force. Had I been experiencing out of the ordinary cramps or pain w. AF, they still would have had me come in to test. They are just chalking it up to a quirk in my cycle, though if you look at my new chart and the one for last cycle, you don't see the immediate temp drop that usually preceeds AF for me. In fact my temps didn't get significantly lower until CD4 of this new cycle. Hopefully this month won't be as confusing.

jjsanner
11-03-2005, 08:34 AM
I couldn't take an accurate temp last night because DS was up ALL night. Poor guy has a fever and just isn't feeling like himself. However, I still have absolutely no cramping and no spotting, but I do have very slight lower back pain (but that could be from sitting at this desk all day long!). I'm trying to hold onto a shred of hope.

mkvh - your chart looks awesome! Good luck tomorrow!

ABirney - congrats on the new house! You know what they say, new house, new family to fill it :D ......

jeggink
11-03-2005, 08:40 AM
Bellefior I also had a weird cycle like that as well where my temps didn't drop right away with AF.

Jesseybell So sorry about the HSG. Are they doing this because of the DES exposure?

lindybug & polkadot Hoping you get a BFP here soon!

Aletheia Welcome

Sorry if I missed people, busy at work!

Anyway, temp is down and spot is here so I think I am out this month. I guess I will know for sure later today or tomorrow :rolleyes: ! On to next month I guess!

CTs_Punkin
11-03-2005, 08:53 AM
GMB4503 - I needed to get a new battery for my thermometer, so I bought a new Walgreens therm, but don't like it - the shape & beep bothers me... so I took out the battery & put it in my old therm... it works... just thought you might like to try that...

Jessebelle - Sorry about the HSG - hope you don't have to go back :D

As for me - I just want AF to show up... how much is that to ask??? I have had 3 anov cycles in a row and need to go in for an HSG as soon as AF shows up... so I'm in this awful waiting pattern... I've had spotting for about 6 days now, but nothing consistant... frustrating!!

Polkadot & Mvkh - good luck w/ testing!! Hoping for a BFP!!

mkvh
11-03-2005, 08:55 AM
Thanks ladies! Trying to be very patient...:p

amurphy
11-03-2005, 08:56 AM
~*~*~*~*~*BABYDUST!~*~*~*~*~*:D

ajlanden
11-03-2005, 09:45 AM
gmb4503-Good luck on your battery search. If I were you I would just a new one. Which thermometer do you have?

ABirney-Congrats on the house! That is so exciting!

jjsannerKeeping holding on to hope!

Beat of luck to Polkadot & Mvkh !!! I am pulling for you this month!

Thanks for all the welcomes! I am happy to be here!! Now come on AF!!!

gmb4503
11-03-2005, 11:24 AM
ajlanden - I have the BD Basal Digital Thermometer. I got it from Amazon.com, but they are sold out.

CTs_Punkin - I never even thought of that!!! I'll give that a try tonight. Thanks :D

ABirney - Congrats on becoming a home owner :D You know what they say, New Home.....New Baby ;)

lindybug - That's exactly why I love my light!!! Once I turned that light on I can't get back to sleep!

mkvh
11-03-2005, 12:18 PM
OMG...ABirney...I was reading so fast I totally missed your info on your NEW HOME. Many congrats! And may new home, new baby prove true for you!!

Dotsie
11-03-2005, 12:26 PM
abirney Congrats on the new house. That is so great.
mkvh I saw in your chart that you were on Depo. I'm sorry if this is TMI, but did you gain weight with it? I gained a ton of weight with it and my dr said that sometimes it can cause your metabolism to be messed up forever. I was just curious.

mkvh
11-03-2005, 12:35 PM
Dotsie--I didn't notice weight gain until towards the end (I was on it for 4 1/2 years)...about 15 lbs. total. But again, I took most of it off for my wedding and gained it back again, so maybe it wasn't the Depo? :o I HAVE noticed a redistribution of weight (I gained weight in my upper stomach on Depo, while now it is a pooch and in my hips.) which is better because I don't feel like I'm menopausal any more!

Charting is Knowledge
11-03-2005, 12:52 PM
Updated to here!

Welcome Aletheia!!!

Sabriel
11-03-2005, 12:57 PM
CTs_Punkin I hope AF shows up for you soon so that you can get your HSG done.

5 DPO here. I sure hope this week goes quickly!

There are some nice looking charts around here! Hope November turns out to be as fertile as October was!

MichelleRenee
11-03-2005, 01:32 PM
Thanks, everyone for the support. I don't have much time to post today...

My temp went down a teeny, tiny bit today, but it is still higher than normal for me. I am just feeling frustrated about it, and today I actually feel much better. You really don't realize how complex TTC is until you start charting and trying to decode your fertility signs. I am thrilled about all the stuff I have learned but it's hard to see a chart that isn't exactly clear, you know?

As for my CM, I think it might be possible that I had EWCM earlier in my cycle and just didn't notice it. The one day I had it I checked again a couple hours later and it was totally different. I am getting the hang of checking it now, and hopefully in my next cycle I will have more accurate info to enter.

Well, I am off for a fun night at MIL's house. Yay for Friday almost being here!!!

MichelleRenee
11-03-2005, 01:38 PM
Oh, before I forget. I am having some new pains today. They aren't bad pains, and I can't even be sure they are TTC related, but here's what they are like.

It starts right under my ribcage on the right side. It feels like a very mild burning, but I feel it enough to be caught off guard when it happens. Then it kind of migrates down, like a wave, across the middle of my stomach and then down on the left side of my uterus. Very strange. I wouldn't think anything of it if it were once or twice, but it's a couple times an hour all day. Like I said, I doubt it has anything to do with TTC, but maybe someone has experienced something similar. :confused: :)

UTChick
11-03-2005, 04:13 PM
I just finished reading the 5 pages I had missed! I am going to do some chart stalking and then I will be back to do SOs.


I am pretty sure I O'd yesterday. I had the most positive OPK I have ever seen on Tuesday and the most EWCM I've ever had yesterday along with some O pains. My temp shot up this morning, so I am pretty sure yesterday was the day. When I noticed the EWCM yesterday afternoon, I gathered up my things and left work immediately. DH had beat me home, so I walked in the door and said,"You have to have sex with me RIGHT NOW!!" He busted out laughing, shrugged his shoulders, and said, "Ok." :p Hopefully it worked. I am not sure if I posted this, but I made an appointment to see my doctor on the 14th just to talk. I just want his take on my cycles and my irregular ovulation. And I found out that my insurance will cover office visits, testing, lab work, x-rays, and meds for fertility treatments. They are sending me more detailed info in the mail about co-pays and the % of coverage for other procedures. So...it has been a pretty productive week! Hopefully now that I have gone to all this trouble, Murphy's Law will kick in and I will get pg this cycle! A girl can hope...;)

jeggink
11-03-2005, 04:28 PM
Threadmistress, please move me to Waiting to O, Thanks!

Abby'sMom
11-03-2005, 04:59 PM
Me too. Please move me to waiting to O.

Thanks for the welcome! It's my DD's 1st birthday today AND AF showed. At least I'm in a good mood because of the b'day!

Judi, looks like we're cycle buddies again! It was good luck for us both last time! And I can't believe you're only on your 2nd PP cycle. I'm on like cycle 8 or something. :p

jeggink
11-03-2005, 05:33 PM
Sherry, Very happy b-day to Abby. I saw the recent pics in the Nov thread, she is adorable! I actually thought I would have to wean completely to get AF back but it came back about 3 weeks after I stopped my one last pump during the day. I still bf about 4 times a day though. Wow, 8 cycles, I am kinda glad she stayed away this long :D. Lets hope we have the same luck this time!

Charting is Knowledge
11-03-2005, 05:35 PM
updated to here!!

:p

polkadot
11-03-2005, 05:46 PM
i broke down....i tested...BFN...i was having such a sucky day (see journal) anyway...i should have known...:rolleyes: i really thought this was it....UGHHH i know you are all gonna say its too early...i know i know...i just wanted it to be a BFP....:(

mkvh
11-03-2005, 05:50 PM
{{{HUGS}}} honey! I'm thinking of you.