TTC W/Charting Vol 5 - There IS something in the cider! 15 BFPs so far!!

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TTCers of ConstantChatter:
Charting Our Course to the BFPs

http://www.ripleysorlando.com/images2/fertilitystatues.jpg
The fertility statues are known to work for some who rub them around the time of possible conception.
It is said that the baby is the most potent part of the statue.

So rub away! :D It's worth a shot!


Who we are:
This is a group of women using charting (temperatures, CM, CP, OPK/FM results, or a combination of these) to try to conceive and, along the way, are learning a heckuvalot about their own bodies! Many of us use a software program to keep track of our charts as well as allowing us to share them with each other. The most common ones are FertitlityFriend.com and Ovusoft.com.

Your threadmistresses for this thread are Polkadot and Sabriel!

To our members:
This thread gets very busy at times, so in order to keep things less overwhelming and a bit more organized, we start a new thread each month as well as after 3 BFPs. A link to the new thread is always posted at the end of the current thread to help everyone find their way over. The threadmistress would really appreciate it if everyone would post their updates in Red. That way, if I get a bit behind, it is much quicker to get the thread up-to-date.


Previous Thread... (http://www.constantchatter.com/showthread.php?t=8643)


KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!

Want to join the fun??
We welcome one and all. It doesn’t matter if you have never charted before or if you’ve been charting to avoid. I am sure you will find lots of help and support in this group.

If you would like to join, CD1 is the time to do it! That way, we can cheer you on
throughout your cycle, rather than 2 days before you test! :cool:

Please don't be discouraged by the number of posts in this thread. You don’t have to read the whole thread to join. Feel free to just jump in on the last page. Just read through these first couple of posts and post a reply with the following information and we will get you added right away. Of course, none of this info is a must but we like to know a little bit about one another.


CC Name:
Me: name/age
DH: name/age
Married since: date
Off BCP since: date
TTC since: date
Charting since: date
Known issues/test results:
Chart: link
Current status: waiting to O, What the bleep .., testing...

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- Member ETF Status -

Lutealating:

Think I O'ed - Testing 10/24 - 10/30:
JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf)

Think I O'ed - Testing 10/31 - 11/6:
bumble, Dotsie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e00ca), Ilovemygeek (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bec65), Jeggink (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c595), Jnshanna (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cafa6), Katmg (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/89994), Klav (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21291), mkvh (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99502), neenbean (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/66982), Polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d), ShelbyMay (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/67c07)

Think I O'ed - Testing 11/7 - 11/13:
Lindybug (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99db2)

Folliculating:
Waiting to O (aka - Boring Part of the Cycle)
Applebee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/98534), Catloverpq (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/da20b), Copswife03 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/daf53), CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas), Ellebelle (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2f8f5), gator97 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/84b2d), Graciebella (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7a038), Hiker04 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e86f8), Hula1974 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/905ef), Jesseybell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cd4f1), Jjsanner (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/24f94), Kiddo (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/kiddo), Kristi32302 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/45b0a), Linnybubbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2330), Marteneym (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fa78), MichelleRenee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e174a), Ptcrn (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bed5d), Spencer's_Girl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6f9cc), UTChick (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf25d), Wrighty26 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/beb7b)

Stagnating:
What the *bleep* is going on?!?!
ABirney (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrsabirney), Dlj78 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=dlj78), Gymwidow (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/813ab)

Chart not Updated -- Waiting for an update:

Taking a Charting Break/Temporarily TTA:
Bellefior (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6231d) - SWH, Ellidew (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/78d2a) - Temporarily TTA, LDS Angel 19 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/64d1c), Mayham (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/be39e) - SWH, Sabriel - Temporarily TTA (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c)

Percolating:
Expecting Mommies!

BFPs in October: (15)
amurphy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a5e06), Bottleored (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/44b0a), BunnyBeth (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e5de5), Calla Lily (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b025d), Ds2003 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ds2003), Gardenia (http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=gardeniacc), jbenny75 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/803b1), Kaeden's Mommy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bcdb2), Lizard (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/af125), Mystikal (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/RaeK622), nuhmah (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/d72dc), Ryan (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3f12b), SarahnCraig (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c1846), Shouldaeloped (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/63d7a), Soulmate (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Soulmate)

BFPs in September: (2)
Baby Lust (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Shanes_Angel), Lowcountrywed (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c4aeb)

BFPs in August: (11)
Akachan93 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/229b9), Crazycaro (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21ac6), Guinness (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=10&id=guinness&tc=0&p=), jeeplover (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/721bb), Indiana Bride (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1d936), LittleStar (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c204a), Mel7dog (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ca05d), Missy329 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2b4de), MMHinCA (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c14c1), Sinclair319 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/sinclair319), Stumbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b1333), Uskiku (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cdfb0),

BFPs in July: (10)
Elenitsa (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=13&id=elenitsa&tc=0&p=), Heidi0622 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/549f8), Jane&Andy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c455f), Kopper (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/9e5e6), MrsCantDecide (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59e5b), Red_Canuck, Sevilla, ShannonGH (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ShannonGH), Tracie (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/a18c8), Tunibell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59461)

BFPs in June: (2)
Christy5599, Lovin'it

Tributatoring:
Proud Cheerleaders!
T3h_wookie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/25336)

Please advise if I’m off-target with your ETF (that's Estimated Test-Fest) or other status, or just need a good old-fashioned Ovary Shout!

-- Please remember to post all updates in red! Thank you!

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Our Members:

ABirney (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrsabirney)
Me: Angie, 30
DH: Scott, 28 (29 soon)
Married since: Sept 25, 2004
Off BC since: Dec '04
TTC since: Sept '05
Charting since: Dec 20 '04
Known issues: none

Almostthere
WC Name: Almostthere
Me: Sarah
Married since: 6-2-2001
Off BCP since: forever
TTC since: September 2005
Charting since: September 2005
Known issues/test results: None

Applebee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/98534)
Me: Lori Ann
DH: Ted
Married: 4.4.03
Chart: since Feb '05
Known issues/test results:
Day3 Test all ok, DH's SA ok, but will have another one done. Motility on the low side

Bellefior (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6231d)
ME: 36
DH: 35
Married since: 5/31/03
Off BCP since: 5/05
TTC since: 5/05
Charting since: 5/05
Known issues/test results: None

Bumble
DH: 33
Married since: 8.2003
TTC since: 4.2005
Charting since: 1.2005
Known issues/test results: miscarriage 6.2005 (8 weeks)

Cat_loverpq (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/da20b)
Me: Cortney
DH: Glenn
Married since: 6/5/04
Off BCP since: February 2005
TTC since: 8/19/05
Charting since: February 2005
Known issues/test results: none

Copswife03 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/daf53)
Me: Brooke/25
DH: Joe/27
Married since: 10/11/2003
Off BCP since: 8/20/2005
TTC since: 8/20/2005
Charting since: 8/22/2005
Known issues/test results: None

CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas)
ME: MMT age 33
DH: CT age 36
Married: 11/04
Off BCP: 12/04
TTC since: 01/05
Known issues/test results: Long cycles

Dlj78 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=dlj78)
Me: Dana/27
DH: Nick/31
Married since: 9/18/04
Off BCP since: 2/2005
TTC since: 6/2005
Charting since: 2/2005
Known issues/test results: none

Dotsie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e00ca)
Me: Dorothy 30
DH: Sean 34
Married: 10/27/01
DS: Aidan 6/27/03
TTC #2: 9/2005
Known issues/test results: none

Ellebelle (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2f8f5)
Me: 27
DH: 34
Married: 06.21.03
Off BCP: 08.03
Charting Since: 08.03
TTC Since: 06.05
Known issues/test results: none

Ellidew (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/78d2a)
Me: ellidew, 25
DH: 27
Married since: June 1, 2002
Off BCP since: 01/2005
TTC since: 07/2005
Charting since: 01/2005
Known issues/test results: none

Gator97 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/84b2d)
Me: Kristen/30
DH: Peter/30
Married since: 11/06/04
Off BCP since: 12/04
TTC since: 02/05
Charting since: 12/04
Known issues/test results: dx endometriosis/adenomyosis 08/05
m/c 09/28/05

graciebella (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7a038)
Me: graciebella/34
DH: hubby /29
Married since: 10/09/04
Off BCP since: long time
TTC since: 10/04, with 6 month break
Charting since: 10/05
Known issues/test results: 1 blocked tube, irregular ovulation

Gymwidow (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/813ab)
Me: Melissa/28
DH: Alan/29
Married since: June '03
Off BCP since: Feb. '05
TTC since: June '05
Charting since: Feb. '05
Known issues/test results: PCOS diagnosed 9/05 and low sperm count diagnosed 10/05.

Hiker04 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e86f8)
Me: C, 26
DH: K, 37
Married since: 9-4-2004
Off BCP since: 5-2004
TTC since: 6-2005
Charting since: 6-2005
Known issues/test results: m/c Aug 4, 2005

Hula1974 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/905ef)
Me: Heather/30
DH: Tim/31
Married since: 6/8/02
Off BCP since: 8/04
TTC since: 10/05
Charting since: 2/05
Known issues: Migraine Headaches

Ilovemygeek (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bec65)
Me: Rachel (23)
DH: Trevor (23)
Married since: June 8, 2002
Off BCP since: June 12, 2005
TTC since: As soon as my cycles regulate themselves
Charting since: June 12, 2002
Known issues/test results: None

Jeggink (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c595)
Me: Judi, 32
DH: Dan, 32
DS: Joseph, 9/23/04
Married since: Sept. 28, 2002
Off BCP since: 10/05
TTC since: Just seeing what happens (with charting)
Charting since: 8/03
Known issues/test results: None

Jesseybell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cd4f1)
Me: Jessie/ just turned 35
DH: Dan/ just turned 33
Married Since: May 21, 2005
Off BCP Since: July 5, 2005
Charting since: August 10, 2005
Known issues/test results: Diagnosed with endometriosis at age 19, DES Daughter

Jjsanner (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/24f94)
Me: Jen, 30
DH: Eric, 33
DS: Elijah, born 2/6/2004
Married since: 4/26/2003
Off BCP since: 10/2004
TTC since: 6/2005
Charting since: 10/2004
Known issues/test results: None

Jnshanna (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cafa6)
Me: Shanna/29
DH: Jose/30
Married since: 10/01/94
Off BCP since: Haven't been on BCP for many years.
TTC since: July 2005
Charting since: 8/07/05
Known issues/test results: None

JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf)
Me: Jody, 32
DH: Scott, 31
Married Since: August 30, 2003
Off BCP Since: At least 10 years now
Charting Since: January 2005
Known issues/test results: None

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Members continued...

Katmg (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/89994)
Me: Katmg, 26
DH: Jim, 30
Married since: Nov. 8, 2003
Off BCP since: 05/04
Charting since: 08/04
TTC since: 05/05
Known issues/test results: None

kiddo (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/kiddo)
Me: Karen, 29
DH: Nate, 30
Married since: Oct 26, 2002
Off BC since: July '04
TTC since: August '04
Charting since: August '05
Known issues: none

Klav (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21291)
Me: Koren/ 33
DH: Dennis/32
Married since: Oct11,2003
Off BCP since: Jan 2003
TTC since: seriously jan 2004
Charting since: Nov2004
Known issues/test results:
may have a blocked tube but lap of '03 showed nothing.
from 50 mg of clomid to 100mg of clomid with estradal and progesterone meds.
starting IUI injection class in November

Kristi32302 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/45b0a)
Me: Kristi/31
DH: Kelly/32
Married since: March 23, 2002
Off BCP since: Feb. 2004
TTC since: May 2004
Charting since: March 2004
Known issues/test results: None

LDS Angel 19 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/64d1c)
Me: Michelle, 22
DH: Aaron, 23
Married since: Sept 4th 2004
Angel: Allison Grace, born and died June 17 2005
Off BCP since: Never on BCP
TTC (again) since: August 2005
Charting since: Charted August, took September off, and now starting again.
Known issues/test results: None at this time

Lindybug (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99db2)
Me: Tracy / 30
DH: Greg / 37
Married since: 6/1/2003
Off BCP since: 6/2005
TTC since: 10/2005
Charting since: 6/2005
Known issues/test results: none

Linnybubbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2330)
Me: Lindsey/26
DH: Stephen/30
Married since: 7/23/05
Off BCP since: 7/31/05
TTC since: 8/1/05
Charting since: 10/21/05
Known issues/test results:

Marteneym (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fa78)
Me: 22
DH: 27
Married since: October 4, 2003
SWH since: October 2004
TTC since: December 2004
Off BCP since: September 2004
Known issues/test results:
Known issues: Delayed Ovulation, SA issues, Varicocele possible
9/9 FSH and Rubella- NORMAL
9/12 SA ABNORMAL- count 30mil/
motility 30% -repeat in 8wks

Mayham (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/be39e)
Me: 28
DH: 28
Married since: 5.02
Off BCP since: 9.03
TTC since: 3.05
Charting since: 5.05
Known issues/test results:
Delayed Ovulation, SA issues, Varicocele possible
9/9 FSH and Rubella- NORMAL
9/12 SA ABNORMAL- count 30mil/
motility 30% -repeat in 8wks

MichelleRenee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e174a)
Me: Michelle/ 23
DH: Michael/ 29
Married since: May 29, 2005
Off BCP since: September 2005
TTC since: September 2005
Charting since: October 2005
Known issues/test results: none so far!

Mkvh (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99502)
Me: 28
DH: 31
Married: 3/19/2005
Last Depo Injection: 12/04
TTC Since: 7/05
Known issues/test results: None

neenbean (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/66982)
Me: 30
DH: 30
Married since: 11/15/03
Off BCP since: 2/04
TTC since: waiting until 1/06
Charting since: 10/05/05 (also did before BFP with DD)
Known issues/test results: none

Polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d)
Me: lauren 26
DH: brian 27
Married since: 11-20-04
Off BCP since: May 05
TTC since: May 05
Charting since: May 05
Known issues/test results: none

Ptcrn (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bed5d)
Me: Jen/30
DH: Gerry/29
Married since: July 30th 2005
Off BCP since: August 14th 2005
TTC and Charting since: August 14th 2005
Known issues/test results: none

Purplesunshine7
Me:
DH:
Married since: 4/5/03
Off BCP sinc:
TTC since: 7/05
Known issues/test results: m/c 6/2/05

Sabriel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c)
Me: C, 24
DH: J, 23
Married since: May 22, 2005
Off BCP since: Never on BCP
TTC since: August 2, 2005
Charting since: May 8, 2004
Known issues/test results: m/c on October 15, 2005 @ 6 weeks 4 days

ShelbyMay (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/67c07)
Me: Shelby/25
DH: James/27
Married since: 5/17/03
Off BCP since: early September 2004
TTC since: 2/16/05
Charting since: 9/08/04
Known issues/test results: possible semen allergy/antibodies

Spencer's_Girl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6f9cc)
Me: melissa / 24
DH: keith / 34
Married since: Sept. 11, 2004
Off BCP since: August 26, 2004
TTC since: Sept. 11, 2004
Charting since: November 20, 2004
Known issues/test results: None

UTChick (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf25d)
Me: Kathy 28
DH: Mike 34
Married since: September 20, 2003
Off BCP since: December 2004
TTC since: May 2005
Charting since: May 2005
Known issues/test results: None

Wrighty26 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/beb7b)
Me (Michelle): 27
DH (Dan): 27
Married: 12.28.02
Off BCP: 01/2004
Charting Since: on and off since 2004
TTC Since: 05.05
Known issues/test results: None

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Things I Have Learned About TTC
by WC's Sherylb

* TTC is a journey. You will discover things about yourself that you never expected. You will face fears you never thought you had. You will find joy in little things.

* TTC can bring you closer to your DH, or it can pull you apart. If your marriage is not solid, you will find out quickly.

* No one understands exactly what you are feeling at any given moment, but someone can empathize at least a little bit.

* You will experience an emotional roller coaster ride. There will be highs and lows and fast moments and slow. Sometimes you have to wait in a very, very slow moving line. You may not even get the seat you want. It is not always fun, it can be scary, but in the end it is worth it.

* "Just relax" is the last thing in the world you want to hear from someone, but it is OK if you say it about yourself.

* There will be moments when you question your own decision to start TTC. You will wonder if you should wait or if you should just give up. Those are normal. But you will get past those feelings.

* The blue and green turtle likes to pop its head out! You will hear of someone's pregnancy and turn green with envy and blue inside because it isn't you.

* It isn't fair, it isn't easy, and it isn't pretty. But you keep doing it because the reward is worth it.

* You will be your best friend and your worst enemy. Your body will
surprise you and yet disappoint you.

* Some women do get lucky and conceive right away. Others aren't so lucky and have to struggle to get there. Hope you will be in the first category, but prepare yourself to be in the second.

* Once you decide to TTC, there will be babies and pregnant women everywhere! You could swear there is a baby boom going on!

* You will have questions. No one will ever be in exactly your position, so don't be surprised when no one can give you exactly the answer you are looking for. But there are people that can contribute, so don't be afraid to ask!

* Two lines on a pregnancy test is not the end of the struggle. Pregnancy has lots of struggles in and of itself.

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HTP sensitivity chart

These numbers might come in handy when shopping for HPTs.
The lower the amount of mIU measured, the more sensitive the test is!

AimStick Pregnancy Test Strip 20 mIU
AccuHome Midstream Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Pregnancy Test (Cup) 25 mIU
Clearblue +/- 25 mIU
Clearblue Digital 25 mIU
Confirm 1-Step Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Dollar Store Brand Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Equate Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
First Response Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
One Step Be Sure Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Precise Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Quickview Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Walgreen Digital 25 mIU
e.p.t. Home Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
Fact Plus Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
CVS Cartridge Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
CVS Midstream Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Drug Emporium Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. + / - Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. Certainty Digital Test 50 mIU
early Pregnancy test 50 mIU
RiteAid Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Target Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
WalMart Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Walgreens Pregnancy Test 100 mIU

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- Common TTC abbreviations

This is a list of some of the more common TTC abbreviations. I know as a newcomer to the TTC threads, it can be hard to keep them all straight. I hope these will help, and if anyone has any they would like added, please let me know!


•2WW: "2 week wait" - The approximate time from possible conception to menstruation due date; Pregnancy tests should be taken near the end of the 2WW.
•AF: "Aunt Flo"; Your period; Menstruation
•AFNW: "Aunt Flo Not Wanted"; the day your period is expected to start, but you are hoping it doesn't!
•AO: anovulatory (cycle without ovulation)
•BBs: "boobs"; breasts
•BBL: "be back later"
•BBT: Basal Body Thermometer; This is used to measure your basal body temperature, when you wake up in the morning, after at least 3 hours of sleep, before you start to move around; Use a special BBT thermometer to take your temperature because they measure the small changes in temperature from day to day more accurately than the regular fever thermometers.
•BCP: Birth control pills
•BD'ing: "baby dancing"; baby-making intercourse
•BFN: "Big Fat Neutral" or “Big Fat Negative”; Negative pregnancy test.
•BF'ing: breast-feeding
•BRB: "be right back"
•CD: cycle day; a particular day in your menstrual cycle (example: CD1 is the first day of your period)
•CL: Cover Line; a visual tool used to separate the low (pre-ovulatory) temps from high (post-ovulatory) temps; a coverline is typically based on the temperatures 6 days prior to ovulation.
•CM: cervical mucous; one of the most useful clues your body can give you in predicting your fertility; it can range from dry, creamy, sticky, or (the most fertile) egg white/watery type.
•CF: cervical fluid; same as cervical mucus
•CP: cervical position; an optional, but sometimes really useful, fertility sign; CP will generally be low, firm and closed before and after ovulation, and high, soft and open during your fertile time.
•DD: "dear daughter"
•DH: "dear husband"
•DS: "dear son"
•DPO: Days Past Ovulation; number of days from your post-ovulatory temperature rise. (Example: 1DPO is the day after your ovulation)
•Endo: endometriosis (can be a fertility problem)
•EDC and EDD: estimated date of confinement (antiquated, but still used by physicians) and estimated date of delivery
•EPT: a brand of pregnancy test, or, generic for "early pregnancy test"
•EW or EWCM: egg white cervical mucus; the most fertile quality CM; it is slippery, clear and stretchy, like egg whites; also EWCF
•FAM: Fertility Awareness Method; the method of fertility and/or birth control that correlates the physical changes you experience during your cycle to predict when you are most fertile
•FF: Fertility Friend, an online (free, for basic services) fertility charting site (website); (could also be formula feeding; check context)
•FM: fertility monitor
•FMU: first morning urine
•FP: follicular phase; the phase before ovulation, where the egg matures in the ovaries
•FRED: First Response Early Detection (pregnancy test)
•HCG: human chorionic gonadotropin; the hormone that is present during pregnancy and what the HPT's and blood test measure to determine if you are pregnant
•HTH: "hope that helps"
•HPT: home pregnancy test; a urine pregnancy test you can take at home
•IMHO: "in my humble opinion"
•IMO: "in my opinion"
•IUI: intra-uterine insemination
•IVF: in vitro fertilization
•KU: knocked up
•LH: leutenizing hormone; the LH surge is what is measured by the OPKs; this hormone signals the egg to burst from the ovary
•LP: luteal phase; the phase of your cycle that begins just after ovulation and continues for 10-18 days, ending with the start of your next period; during the LP, your body continues to build up the lining of your uterus, and produce hormones which would support a pregnancy; this is the time when a fertilized egg can implant into the uterine lining
•NFP: Natural Family Planning; similar to FAM, but with abstinence during the fertile period
•O, Oing, Oed: ovulation, ovulating, or ovulated
•OPK: ovulation predictor kit; tests for presence of LH surge that usually precedes ovulation by 12-48 hours; these tests are quite expensive and not always accurate (if you take medication or depending on your age); these are optional when charting with FF, but if your fertility data is not clear it can bring more light and help interpret difficult cases
•OS: Ovusoft; charting software based on TCOYF
•PCOS: polycystic ovarian syndrome (a fertility problem)
•PG: pregnant
•PIAC: pee in a cup
•POAS: pee on a stick
•RE: reproductive endocrinologist
•SA: semen analysis
•SH: "sweet husband"
•SO: "significant other"
•SYS, SYL : See ya soon! or See ya later!
•TCOYF: Taking Charge Of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler; a book and website about charting and fertility.
•TMI: "too much information" - There is no such thing when TTC!
•TTA: "trying to avoid"
•TTC: "trying to conceive"
•TTFN: "ta-ta for now"
•TTYL, TTYS: "talk to you later" or "talk to you soon"

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Resources borrowed from Still At It:

Abbreviations and acronyms
List of TTC & IF acronyms written out (http://womens-place.com/ttc/ttcacronyms.php)

HPT Sensitivity Comparison Charts
Fertility Plus (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hpt.html)
Pee On A Stick (http://www.peeonastick.com/hpts.html)
Mama's Ark (http://www.mamasark.com/hpt.htm)
Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com/pregnancy-test-sensitivity.html)
Remember, the hCG starts at 1 at implantation and increases as time goes on, so the smaller amount of hCG it measures, the more sensitive the test is!

Books
Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler, MPH (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060937645/qid=1041654042/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

The Fertility Sourcebook by M. Sara Rosenthal, PHD (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0737303808/qid=1042220393/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)

Inconceivable by Ben Elton (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385334656/qid=1041659461/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)
The movie "Maybe Baby" (below) is based on this book

Inconceivable: A Woman's Triumph Over Despair and Statistics
by Julia Indichova (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0767908201/qid=1059292613/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

The Infertility Diet: Get Pregnant & Prevent Miscarriage by Fern Reiss (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1893290395/qid=1059292976/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

Conquering Infertility: Dr. Domar's Mind/Body Guide to Enhancing
Fertility & Coping with Infertility by Alice Domar, Phd (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0670031550/qid=1059293116/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/103-2812959-1358247)


Girlfriend to Girlfriend: A Fertility Companion by Kristen Magnacca (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1588202135/qid=1082306449/sr=8-2/ref=pd_ka_2/104-9895052-8814318?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

Movies
Maybe Baby (2001) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000062XKW/qid=1041654127/sr=8-4/ref=sr_8_4/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=video&n=507846)

She's Having A Baby (1988) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6300988996/qid%3D1041654195/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-0287896-1655948)

Websites (by subject)

Charting
Ovusoft aka TCOYF (http://www.ovusoft.com/)
The site for Toni Weschler's book which includes message boards, chat and cycle galleries which are very helpful.

Fertility Friend (www.fertilityfriend.com)
A free charting site which includes a lot of information and cycle galleries.

Local Support
RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/chapters/resolvenearyou.jsp?name=chapters)
Nation-wide referrals to local support groups and therapists.

The American Infertility Association (http://www.americaninfertility.org)
Lots of information and support, including message boards and chat rooms.

Financial Concerns
ARC: Advanced Reproductive Care (http://www.arcfertility.com/)
information on financing infertility treatments

Family Fee Plan (http://www.amerifee.com/fertility-financing/index.asp)
information on financing infertility treatments

State Insurance Requirements (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/advocacy/insurance/index.jsp?name=advocacy&tag=insurance)
Links from the Resolve site about insurance & laws.

Inciid's Insurance pages (http://www.inciid.org/index.php)
Click through menu on right for more financial topics and the insurance forum.

General TTC
Trying To Conceive.com (http://www.tryingtoconceive.com/)
All things TTC! Lots of info as well as a place to buy herbal therapies for
conceiving.

Baby Med (http://www.babymed.com/)
Tons of information. Everything from Chinese gender charts to an FAQ section on pretty much any TTC question you could have.

Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com)
Baby makin' supplies!

OBGYN.net (http://www.obgyn.net/)
Lots of general info on women's health. They also have doctors on line who
answer questions.

Infertility Sites
INCIID (http://www.inciid.org/)
Pronounced "inside". (The International Council on Infertility Information Dissemination)
Excellent national resource.

Resolve (http://www.resolve.org)
Wonderful site with lots of infertility information and support.

I dream of baby (http://www.idreamofbaby.com/fertility.php)
Learn the basics of fertility issues here. This site also has a great message
board community!

Fertility Plus.org’s list of female hormone levels (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hormonelevels.html#female)
Starting your fertility work-up? Check out this site to see a list of the
commonly tested female hormone levels, the function of each hormone, and the normal levels of each hormone.

Shared Journey (http://www.sharedjourney.com)
Shared Journey is dedicated to providing quality information on topics such as
infertility, miscarriage, surrogacy, pregnancy after infertility, living
child-free, and adoption. Our information is supplied by well noted Reproductive
Endocrinologist's, Psychologists, Adoption professionals and links through
various sites.

FertileHeart (http://www.fertileheart.com)
A community of people exploring holistic approaches to fertility. A site by
author Julia Indichova (see books above)

Specific IF Issues
Soul Cysters (http://www.soulcysters.com)
PCOS site with lots of support and info

Dr. Beer (http://www.repro-med.net)
Reproductive Immunology information, including lists of tests, pricing, local referrals

Reproductive Immunology Support (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/immunologysupport/)
Yahoo group for RI patients, tons of info and articles

Info for Family and Friends
Empty Arms (http://www.vocalicious.com/empty_arms/empty_arms_mod.html)
This is a great video so they can understand what you're going through. (And get out your kleenex!)

[Charting is Knowledge]

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POST AWAY!!

[nuhmah]

OMG, I am first!!!!

First off - congratulations, Soulmate!!!!

Threadmistress, please move to me to "Think I O'ed, testing 10/24-10/30

Thank you!!

[Sabriel]

Second! :D

[Soulmate]

You know I'm still going to lurk!!

There are still some great looking charts out there! 3 more BFPs and we break an all time TTC w/charting record!

~*~*~*~*~*Baby Dust~*~*~*~*~*~*

[neenbean]

Threadmistress: Here is my chartlink. (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/66982)


Also, I can be listed as "Think I O'ed - Testing 10/31 - 11/6"

Thank you!



ETA: Thank you all for the warm welcome. :D

[Ilovemygeek]

Wow! It seems like so many women that were in this thread when I first joined are getting pregnant! I am so happy for them, yet so jealous. Sigh.

Here I sit just waiting to O. I have had EWCM for 11 days in a row now. There is no question as to whether it is actually fertile CM, (TMI alert), because I am so wet that if I do not wear a pantyliner, I get a visible wet spot on my pants. :eek: It looks like I have peed myself! Has anyone else ever had fertile CM for this long? I have already stopped drinking green tea and the stuff keeps coming so we keep BD. I need a break!

[Wrighty26]

Subscribing.... :)

[nuhmah]

neenbean - welcome to the thread! (I forgot to welcome you in Vol.IV!)

[Hula1974]

Oops, I'm falling behind!!

Congrats Lizard & Soulmate!!!!

Welcome neenbean! :)

[kmmommy]

Wow! 15 BFPS in 22 days!!! Crossing my fingers that we break that record.

*~*~*~BABY DUST~*~*~*

[MichelleRenee]

Congrats, soulmate!!!

I am so happy for you!

[almostthere]

Thought I would check back in, congrats to all of you BFP - I have been lurking. This is the end of our second month TTC and I am getting BFN from Answer tests and of course did not chart this month thinking I should relax and I have no idea whats going on - my period should arrive today, maybe tommorrow.

Anyone use the early response ANSWER test before?

Sarah

[mkvh]

CONGRATULATIONS
SOULMATE & LIZARD!!!!!!!!!!!!

And welcome Neen!


Threadmistress, can you please move me to "Think I O'd, Testing 10/31-11/7"? Thanks!! Our timing kinda sucked...think we're going to every-other-day BDing next month!

[MichelleRenee]

CD16 and it doesn't look like I O'd yet. I am glad because DH is still feeling a little sick, so BDing is the last thing on his mind.

[Soulmate]

Happy Birthday Ilovemygeek!! http://www.millan.net/minimations/smileys/balloons.gif (http://www.millan.net) Maybe you can take a nookie break for your birthday :D

almostthere Answer Early's do fine in detecting pregnancy early but they, along with First Response Early's (FRER), have developed a bad habit of "disappearing positives" which are really BFNs. Check out the full story at peeonastick.com (http://www.peeonastick.com/issues.html). This site is also very awesome to help pick a brand of HPT. They give reviews and pics of BFPs.

Congrats to mkvh, neenbean, and nuhmah for popping that egg out! ~*~*~*~*~*~Baby Dust~*~*~*~*~*~

MichelleRenee Lets hope that eggie waits for DH to feel better.

[polkadot]

i go away for two dyas and look at this a new thread and 2 more BFP's

Congrats Lizard and Soulmate....H&H 9 months to you both

here is my dilema can anyone help me out?

i think i may have o'ed yesterday but my temp was screwed up from drinking the night before and waking up late....so..i felt cramping alot yesterday but only got a little watery Cm...which is good....so when we got home at 1 am i took an OPK and it was + so of course we BD last night which was technically this morning am...i am still feeling kinda crampy but i will take another OPK later today jsut to be sure....i wish i knew wxactly what was going on...but we'll see....:D I figured i would probably O this weekend but didnt count on my sleeping patterns and temps screwing things up :rolleyes:


lets just hope this is it...for me :p

[Deanna1018]

We have decided to begin TTC in Jan 05 so i thought I would get a head start with charting. I bought a basal digital the thermometer. I also bought (and have started reading) "Taking Charge of Your Fertility" by Toni Weschler, MPH. I am wondering why they never taught this in health class. I had no idea that there was so much involved. I can't believe I knew so little about my fertility and I am in the health profession. It is an amazing book.

Anyway even though I have read that you shouldn't start charting till you have TOM i decided to start this morning just to get used to all the "evaluating" techniques. Any words of wisdom would be greatly appreciated. Is there anything that you wished you had know when you first started charting?

I look forward to getting to know all of you.

[Hula1974]

Welcome Deanna!!!

[Deanna1018]

Thanks hula

[klav]

JUST WANTED TO SUBSCRIBE AND WELCOME ALL THE NEWBIES i HOPE YOUR STAY IS SHORT!!

[Dotsie]

HOLY COW....CONGRATS SOULMATE!!! Here's to a H&H 9 months.
COngrats to all who have O'd and good luck to all who are going to be testing.
Welcome Deanna
As for me I am 7DPO and wasn't able to temp on time today because we were out of town for a wedding and I forgot my thermometer. I have NO symptoms whatsoever. CM has cleared up and nothing is going on. I am starting to be very negative about this cycle. I said I was going to test on the 27th when I would be 11DPO but I think I might skip it. I just don't want to see a BFN.

[papergirl]

congratulations to the new bfp's. i wish you all a super happy and super healthy nine months.

as for me, i'm just chillin out here at 4DPO. i really hope this is it but i'm not putting too much stock into it. i don't want the big let down like last month if this isn't it.

happy vibes to those of you testing in the next few days!

[CTs_Punkin]

CONGRATULATIONS SOULMATE!!!

I know how hard & long you have been TTC and I am just so incredibly thrilled for you!! Congrats & happy & healthy & lots and lots of sticky vibes to you!!!

As for me, still waiting to O.... still have good CM - so need to DTD w/ hubbie again before the weekend is out! Have a Drs appt on Wed... so hopefully she'll have some answers for me. crossing my fingers...

Thanks for the great new thread!

MMT

[MichelleRenee]

Thanks, Soulmate. DH is actually feeling better so we have a "date" planned for tonight. Funny story about his being sick: he went to buy some cough medicine for himself while I was at work yesterday. When I got home he showed it to me. It was Robitussin! I never even told him about that stuff! He said he was researching stuff on the internet and read that it might help us, so he bought it! So sweet!

ETA: My CM is a LOT more watery today than it has been this cycle. I'm excited that my body seems to be doing what it's supposed to do.

[ds2003]

Congratulations Soulmate & Lizard!!


Here is some

~*~*~*~*~BABY DYST~*~*~*~*

[Lizard]

Thanks SO much for all the well-wishes and congratulations. I really really appreciate it. I've graduated myself but I'll still be around. I am so nervous and hesitant about this, because it just doesn't seem real yet. Hopefully I can get into the doc next week and I'll feel better about things. :)

By the way, in case anyone was wondering.... we honestly didn't do anything different this month. As a matter of fact, this was the worst month for us timing-wise because my O was delayed. The only time around O that we BD'd were 2 and 3 days prior. I really did not expect anything to happen at all. God works in mysterious ways I suppose. :)

I also wanted to announce that your new threadmistresses are Sabriel and polkadot!!!! Thanks for volunteering ladies!!

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Updated to here!

[Dotsie]

I have a question. If your LP is normally 14 days, then you will get AF 14 days from the day you o'd right? Your LP never changes, correct? I'm asking this because I o'd earlier this month and I was supposed to be due for AF on the 1st of Nov. I'm getting a little confused here.

[jesseybell]

dotsie - it is my understanding that your LP can change. "Normal" is 14 days. My doctor on Thursday told me not to worry too much if it isn't 14 days...As I write this I am thinking that I am experiencing cramps, which if I get AF tomorrow then my LP will be 12 days this month.

[Sabriel]

Dotsie I used to think that your LP should always stay the same, but in my experience it can fluctuate some. My LP has been as long as 14 days and as short as 10 days. Typically, it seems to be 11 or 12 days. Hope that helps!

MichelleRenee Glad your DH is feeling better! Even more so that you can get some BDing in before O!!!

CTs_Punkin Hope your Dr.'s appointment leads you to some answers!

bumble I really hope this is your month!

[polkadot]

Lizard-thanks again for passing the reins and giving Sabriel and I the nod as a co-threadmistress.....i feel so special...like i won an award or something;) :D lets hope it brings us the luck that the rest of our comistresses have had....

Dotsie- your LP should be generally the same, mine has been 13, 12, and 15 days. I would think anything after the 18 days that FF reccomends is a sure sign....hoep that helps...

[gator97]

Thank you to Sabriel and Polkadot for being our new threadmistresses! I know you will do a wonderful job but I hope it is a post that you don't do for long!

Dotsie--your LP may not be 14 days, it varies from person to person. However long it is for you, it should not vary that much from month to month. That said, mine has been anywhere from 11-15 days but that may be from user-error on my part as I was learning to chart.

Welcome to Deanna and Neenbean! Hope your stay is short and sweet.

Temp dropped .3 degrees today. Not below coverline but lower than it's been for most of my LP. I expect it to go below coverline tomorrow. Home from work tomorrow due to Hurricane Wilma so at least I can be upset on my own. I broke down in tears at dinner last night b/c I really don't think I'm PG this cycle and it just brought back the pain of losing our last pregnancy. DH was completely supportive and said all the right things. I never expected TTC to be so emotional, I never expected to get so upset by people asking me when we were going to start having kids, and I never expected to be so jealous of other's good fortune of getting pregnant quickly (not that I would wish this on anyone--but jealous just the same).

[polkadot]

Gator- try not tot get too upset...you never know....your temp is not below the coverline and she hasnt shown yet.....DONT GIVE UP:D :D :D
Think high temps girlie

as for me...i think i am Oing as i type...just took a OPK +...off to catch that egg..wish me luck:D

[Wrighty26]

Yay for Sabriel and Polkadot being our new co-threadmistresses :)

Gator - Big hugs to you! TTC is emotional on a completely different level....it's tiresome, but at the same there's always that little lasting piece of hope each and every month. I completely understand your frustrations- and jealousy.

According to FF I am 8DPO-- I'm not going to call it, because the chances of me getting AF soon is high-- and why waste the energy? But how freakin' excited am I that I seemed to have O'd on my own?!!! :p I feel like calling up my Dr and shouting BOOO-YAAAH to him on the phone. Hee. I'm ho ping for one of two things-- either I'm pregnant (obviously my number #1 choice) or that my LP is longer than it was a couple of months ago...

[flygirl]

Threadmistress, can you please remove me from the graduates list? Thanks. Looks like this just wasn't the right time for us.

[nuhmah]

flygirl - I am so sorry... I saw another thread that you had started and I have been thinking of you. {{{Hugs}}}

[jesseybell]

flygirl - I saw you on another thread.I am so sorry.

AF just arrived a little bit ago. I am disappointed, but since it was my first month, I am not going to dwell on it. Now I need to call the doctor in the morning to schedule my HSG. I am glad there was just talk about LP because mine looked to be 11 days this month. Another month of charting here I come - the practice is good. I didn't temp this morning. I had woken up at 4:30 and turned off my 6:45 alarm because I wouldn't have gotten my 3 hours and I slept until 8:00.

Threadmistress, please change me to 'Waiting to O'

So since I got AF at 7:00 pm, tomorrow is Day 1, right?

[gator97]

flygirl- I am so sorry. I know there are no words that will make it better.<<<<HUGS>>>>

jesseybell- so sorry about AF. I believe that today would be considered CD1--it doesn't matter what time you get it.

[nuhmah]

So I have another question about LP - I was thinking about this this morning! My past 2 cycles have each had an 8 day LP - if most HPT need about 11 days (or more) to detect a BFP, would that mean that if I go past my 8 days I **should** be preggo? Is it weird that I have such a short LP, or am I am thinking about this correctly?

[Wrighty26]

Awww....Flygirl...I'm SO sorry :( Just know we are all here for you....

[Hula1974]

So sorry Flygirl :( ............

[Hula1974]

So I have another question about LP - I was thinking about this this morning! My past 2 cycles have each had an 8 day LP - if most HPT need about 11 days (or more) to detect a BFP, would that mean that if I go past my 8 days I **should** be preggo? Is it weird that I have such a short LP, or am I am thinking about this correctly?

I will disclaim this as always "I'm no expert"....many of you other girls are far more knowledgable than me about the charting....

BUT, because I was looking into this as well, I'll say that I believe if you go two days longer than YOUR normal LP and still no AF ---- the chances of you being PG are very high. :D

[Dotsie]

Oh Flygirl, I'm so sorry..{{HUGS}}

[nuhmah]

BUT, because I was looking into this as well, I'll say that I believe if you go two days longer than YOUR normal LP and still no AF ---- the chances of you being PG are very high. :D

Thank you so much for the response! This is what I thought, too! DH was asking when I would test, and I told him I should know by the end of next week... compared to when people usually test we thought that was rather quick. :cool:

[Charting is Knowledge]

updated to here

[polkadot]

Flygirl- so sorry...hugs and prayers to you. You do sound like you have a very positive outlook. I hope you get your BFP again very soon....we are here for you....


Nuhmah- my avg LP is 12 but last month went to 14...it made me crazy....i really thought i would see a BFp...but nope, no such luck....i hope you get your BFp very soon....and about the short LP...i read on FF that if your avg. LP is shorter than 10 days that it could not give the egg enough time to implant....but then again...crazier things have happened...do you have FF VIP....if not let me know and maybe i can research it for you.....Good luck....

[nuhmah]

...i read on FF that if your avg. LP is shorter than 10 days that it could not give the egg enough time to implant....but then again...crazier things have happened...do you have FF VIP....if not let me know and maybe i can research it for you.....Good luck....

this doesn't sound too good... off to do some research on my own! Anyone else have some thoughts to weigh in?

[polkadot]

ohh jen- i didnt mean to make you worried....i jsut went through the saem thing last month and wanted you to know you were not alone in wondering....your chart looks good and you are only 4 DPO....dotn stress yet.....keep thinking positive:D

[Tonysweetie]

oh flygirl I'm so sorry!!!!

[gator97]

nuhmah- there are things that you can do to increase your luteal phase. I remember reading that the b6 vitamin can help. I'll see what else I can find.

[jnshanna]

Wow! 2 more BFP's! Congrats Soulmate and Lizard! :D

Threadmistress, could you please move me to, Think I O'd, Testing 10/31-11/7? I think I O'd but who knows. Our timing was ok, I guess. But we only BDed on O day if my O is correct. I guess my temp tomorrow will make it a little more clear.

[nuhmah]

ohh jen- i didnt mean to make you worried....i jsut went through the saem thing last month and wanted you to know you were not alone in wondering....your chart looks good and you are only 4 DPO....dotn stress yet.....keep thinking positive:D

thanks... now you tell me. ;) :p I did run off and research some websites... the ideal LP is 14 days long (basically, anything over 10 is desirable). I am hoping that because I have only had a couple of cycles off the pill that things might sort themselves out. My first cycle was 33 days, and then last month was 27. Who knows!?

Apparently, it is a really easy fix (if it truly is a problem), and some doctors even just suggest taking a Vitamin B6 supplement instead of a fertilty drug like Clomid. I will wait and see what happens, and if I have another short LP this cycle I will call my doctor's office. I am just about due for a yearly check-up anyway. :o

[MichelleRenee]

Flygirl, I am so sorry. {{{HUGS}}}

Well, DH was feeling well enough to BD tonight. Since he bought me the Robitussin I decided to take some just for the heck of it. I have been a little nauseous since I took it, so I don't think I will take it again unless I have to. I am actually a *little* glad it made me nauseous because I have been waiting to try out some anti-nausea things, like smelling/sucking on peppermint. It worked this time! I had been nauseous for a couple hours.... very slightly nauseous, but enough to annoy me. It went away right away. Hopefully this will be helpful when I have m/s.

Good luck to everyone this week!

[nuhmah]

nuhmah- there are things that you can do to increase your luteal phase. I remember reading that the b6 vitamin can help. I'll see what else I can find.

I read that, too!! We must have posted at the same time.

[UTChick]

Wow! I missed a lot!

Congrats Lizard and Soulmate!! :D

flygirl~I was so sad to read your news, but it looks like you have a great attitude. I hope your next BFP comes really soon.



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Still waiting to O here. We were out of town, so I didn't temp this morning and couldn't take an OPK yesterday. This afternoon's OPK was -, and I am just now starting to get the beginning of fertile CM, so I don't think I have O'd yet. I am not due to O for a few days anyway, so just hanging out and BDing!

[klav]

Flygirl, I'm so sorry.


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as for me I'm holding to the temp of 97.9 I dipped yesterday but came right back to the same temp? So ..... My hopes are not up for this cycle? hummmm.........

[Dotsie]

8DPO. Last night my bb's were just a teeny bit sore and I had cramping. Not major AF cramping but cramping like I had when I was PG. Trying not to put too much stock in it, I keep thinking that it's probably FPS. I am going to Walmart today and buying some equate and the CBE digital. I'm going to tell my DH to hide them until Thursday morning. I can't wait to test but I'm so scared to test at the same time.
GOod Luck to everyone else!!

[Lizard]

My temp went way up this morning, so I re-tested and got a MUCH darker BFP. However, I've had some reddish spotting. No cramping or anything yet, just spotting. I'm going to try to get into the doc today.

[gator97]

klav- a dip at 6 DPO CAN be a good thing. . . for all fairness, it can also be nothing but it could be a nice implantation dip. And holy steady temps, batman.

Dotsie--hope those are RPS!

Lizard- the fact that your temp went way up today is a very good sign. Some spotting in the first trimester is very normal. I would get into the dr. for piece of mind though.

[cat_loverpq]

Geez, ANOTHER new thread?! :D I wanted to send out a big CONGRATS to Lizard and Soulmate! Lots of **sticky vibes** coming your way!

flygirl ~ I'm so sorry to hear that. Big {{hugs}}!

Welcome neenbean and Deanna!

gymwidow ~ I'm sorry about your DH's SA results. :( I hope the dr can help sort things out and that you get a BFP soon!

[klav]

thanks for the encouragement gator97 I'm holding my breath!!! and hoping

[Dotsie]

I had to post this....
My friend gave me a fortune cookie this morning, my fortune was,
"Change is happening in your life, so go with the flow". I hope it's right :D

[mkvh]

{{{{HUGS}}}} coming your way flygirl. You and DH are in my thoughts and prayers.

Welcome Deanna!

Lizard...sticky, sticky vibes coming your way. Glad the BFP was really dark! Here's hoping you can get into the doc.

I haven't had time to chart stalk...but it seems like we have LOTS of 2ww-ing going on here!

[CTs_Punkin]

Flygirl - I'm so sorry... Hugs to you! Hope you get a sticky BFP real soon!
Welcome Newbies!!

Jody - your chart is looking real good!!!
Lots of other charts in the 2WW looking good!!!
Still waiting to O - was hoping to be at 3dpo for my drs appt - but no such luck... trying to keep my head on straight & hope that if I don't O - at least I'll get a plan & work from there... right?? :)

Hope those in S.FL are doing alright & made it through Wilma w/o much damage!!

Oh - edited to add - Congrats to the new threadmistresses!!!

[jnshanna]

I'm so sorry, Flygirl. {{Hugs}}

[Wrighty26]

So here's my deal-- I am feeling a little crampy today, but at the same time I feel like my breasts are extremely bruised. They are SUPER swollen (I look like I grew an entire cup size) and (TMI alert) my nipples are gigantic! I don't think that this is normal for me-- but my body has been so out of wack it's hard to tell. I certainly hope this isn't normal - because GOOD LORD.

[Freckles]

*De-lurking*
I am so sorry Flygirl.:(

[Lizard]

Wrighty... that sounds good!!

Don't have time to talk right now, but my nurse called me ALREADY with my results (this place is fast).... beta was 107.8 and progesterone was 19.2. Both of those are great. She said because I'm so early, the spotting could have been nothing or maybe residual from implantation. I'm FORCING myself to not worry about it, especially since it's stopped now.

Normally she'd have me back in for a repeat beta on Wednesday, but we're going out of town for DH's uncle's funeral tomorrow through Thursday. I'm supposed to call her Friday and let her know how I'm feeling and if I've had more spotting... she'll do a repeat beta then if necessary.

On that note, I just wanted to CHEER FOR CHARTING because had I not known that I ovulated late this month, I would have been totally confused about not only AF, but also my beta levels because I'd think I was further along than I really am. Charting is such a great thing!!

Have a great day ladies... and I think I can officially drop off some BABYDUST!!!

[Charting is Knowledge]

updated to here

[polkadot]

i am calling it....i O'ed yesterday (pretty sure) jsut got a - OPK....so let the waiting begin.....i will test sometime next week i will try not to test until next friday lets hope i have the will power

[nuhmah]

So I posted a question on the boards at FF, and a few have looked at my chart and are wondering if maybe I O'ed earlier than FF is telling me? Last month I thought I had O'ed, and then it called it a few days later and adjusted my chart. If I am truly O'ing earlier than anticipated I have a "norma" LP. So, I guess it is off to talk to my Dr!

[polkadot]

nuhmah- i think i am havin the same prob. FF always calls my O the day after i think i really o'ed. Like if you look at my chart now....i think i oed yesterday but my temp didnt go up enough this morning for FF to recognize it....b/c if i put in four more high temps it makes my O today and not yesterday. I even took an OPk and it was neg today so that really makes me think i oe'd yesterday.
I know i shouldnt complain b/c at least i know i am oing but...i wish it was clear...with a good thermal shift.

hope you get some clear answers in the next few days:confused:

[Bellefior]

Congrats to all the BFPs!

While I am not actively charting this month, I'm pretty sure I O'ed on day 18th, so I put in some temps to give me the cross hairs there and have been temping since just to get an idea of what's going on. If you are looking at my chart and wondering why it looks so weird, that's why. Timing was good this month so I will be temping for the next week or so to see how it goes. Not going to test until next week or so if AF holds off that long.

[MichelleRenee]

Wrighty, sounds good to me too!

As of today my chart looks funny. I don't quite know what to make of it. It looked so normal up until now...

[nuhmah]

polkadot - that really stinks that FF is doing that to you, too! If I override my CL and put it where I could have possibly O'ed (at my first +OPK), I am 7DPO. Since I had two -OPK's after that (and then a +OPK later), I think I may have O'ed then. We will have to wait and see... fingers crossed for you, too! :)

[Dotsie]

Michelle I don't think your chart looks weird. It looks like you *might* haev O'd yesterday.

I had the weirdest dream last night. I dreamt that I was lying in bed breast feeding my baby. Not my DS but my baby....

[MichelleRenee]

Really, Dotsie? I just thought it looked different than all the other charts I've seen. It's harder to tell with only half a chart! I've been having pains in my left side very similar to those I had in my right side last month, so I'm pretty sure they are ovulation pains.

Wierd dream....I hope it means something!

[polkadot]

wow thats a really good dream....hope it comes true very soon....your chart is looking good...;)

nuhmah- i dont think you chart looks weird....i think you o'ed yesterday for what its worth....

me- well i think i might O today...or maybe it was yesterday but either way....we are BD tonite!;) I got a - OPK but had EWCM.....so confused :confused:

[Soulmate]

Wrighty! I just had to pop in to address thismy nipples are gigantic That was totally a big tip off for me that I was pregnant! They seriously looked really huge starting at 9DPO.

[katmg]

Wow - I missed the closing out of the last thread - just stumbled in here. I'm at 10 DPO. One more week 'til testing time! :D

Luteal Phases - Seems like there were a couple questions in here about LPs. My LP fluctuates from 12-16 days. For awhile it was usually 11-12 days and then all of sudden it jumped to 15-16 days. Made for a fun couple of months there were I really thought I might be pg, only to be disappointed. :( Typically, your LP will be about the same every month but if it suddenly goes longer, it isn't necessary a precursor to a BFP. I've also read that LPs less than 10 days aren't long enough for eggs to implant. There are holistic remedies that you can look into to lengthen it, as well as medicines.

[Wrighty26]

They seriously looked really huge starting at 9DPO.

Good to know :) At this point I can take all of the FPS and RPS I can get!

Polkadot - I would definitely BD tonight! I seem to have a "slow rise" when it comes to ovulating-- and I don't think it's all that uncommon... this may be occurring for you as well!

[Dotsie]

oh yeah, when you're pg your nipples will become very dark and the size of saucers...I"m not kidding. When I was pg with my DS I was positive that I would never had "normal" looking bb's again. They do go back to normal..somewhat. :rolleyes: Pregnancy does a number on your body. If you have nice bb's now, remember them like that because they will never look like that again. Especially if you breastfeed.
Polkadot BD BD. Even if you have O'd already. Good Luck in catching that eggie!!! Thanks for looking at my chart and keeping my hopes up :)
katmg thanks for helping me out with the lp thing. My best friend and I are on the exact same cycle and are TTC right now and she was asking me the very same questions that I had. I knew you ladies would have the answers ;)
Bellefior I hope you are successful this month!!

I bought equates and cbe digi today. It's going to be really hard not to test tomorrow with FMU. I'm still having the same crampy feeling before. They're not like AF pains but the pains you get when you're pg and your uterus is stretching. Oh and my nipples are a sore as well. I guess I'll know in a few days.

Good Luck everyone!!!

[Hula1974]

I feel out of the game with you other 2WWers.
I have no FPS or RPS. At least not that I know of. I marked my chart with cramps a couple days but they were so short, not the hour long things I've heard about implanation pain. Just sharp little pricks a few times here and there.
And that's the best FPS I can muster up!! :mad:

I'm probably doomed for a BFN but we'll keep hoping my temp. stays up.

ETA - I didn't mean this to sound like a pity party for me. oops. Just don't know what to expect in my first month really trying! I want to believe!!!! ;)

[shouldaeloped]

have no FPS or RPS. At least not that I know of. I marked my chart with cramps a couple days but they were so short, not the hour long things I've heard about implanation pain. Just sharp little pricks a few times here and there. And that's the best FPS I can muster up!!

Hula- it was the first month that I had zero symptoms. . no tender BB's, minimal cramping. . pretty much nothing going on. . .then I got my BFP.

don't give up hope yet!

[Dotsie]

What do the the stats stand for on your FF chart?

[ABirney]

Wow I go away for a couple days and come back to page 10 of the new thread! Too much missed stuff to give individual shout outs except I did want to say Congrats to Soulmate and (HUGS) to Flygirl.
My temp since I've been gone has gone up to 97.5 for the past 3 days in a row... we have been petsitting that whole time but I don't think their house is any warmer than ours.. so who knows, maybe an egg did pop out of there??? My CM and CP have been no help whatsoever this cycle. That isn't much of a temp rise either but we'll see.

[polkadot]

Hula- dont give up yet...your chart is lookin good...i was a freak my first month of trying too....keep thinking high temps and they will come;)

[Delaney21]

I have a question:

I have been charting my CM and tracking my days for the past month, and now I think I'm ready to start temping. This may be a really off question (and maybe its been asked, sorry if so) - but do you clean your thermometer every time you use it? If so, or if not even, what do you use to clean it? TIA!

[Sabriel]

Delaney21 Hm, I don't clean mine each time I use it. I guess I never really thought about it. Is that gross?

ABirney Sorry sweetie, but it doesn't look like you've Oed to me. I hope it happens soon, though!

Hula1974 and Dotsie Your charts look great to me! I hope this is your month!

[MichelleRenee]

Delaney, I rinse mine and wipe it off each morning. (I am assuming you are talking about after temping orally...) It's not that it's dirty so much as I just happen to know that your mouth is full of bacteria in the morning and it just seems like cleaning it is the right thing to do.

I spotted my first EWCM tonight. Without a doubt!

[Linnybubbles]

CC Name: Linnybubbles
Me: Lindsey/26
DH: Stephen/30
Married since: 7/23/05
Off BCP since: 7/31/05
TTC since: 8/1/05
Charting since: 10/21/05
Known issues/test results:
Current status: waiting to O

I have no idea how to link my FF chart! I am a nurse and I have access to an abundance of HPTs, meaning that I have been testing every month. This month I fully resolve not to test until after I miss a period. Must.have.willpower.

[Wrighty26]

Welcome Lindsey! An endless supply of HPTs would be torture! (It's good for the bank account though :) )

I knew that as soon as I reported any FPS they would miraculously disappear! Well- maybe not disappear, but subside. I'm still feeling positive though, especially since my temp was above the coverline today...

I have decided that if I am not pregnant this month, that I will be going to get the HSG next month. It would be good to know is there are any issues :) I feel better making that decision!

Hope everyone has a great Tuesday :D

[Dotsie]

Welcome Linny Hope your stay here is short and sweet.
Delaney I don't clean mine off either. I use it and then I put it back on the nightstand. Eh, who cares...it's only my mouth.
Sabriel Thanks!! I keep looking at my chart like soemthing is going to pop out at me and I have an A-HA!! moment. So far, none;)
I tested this morning...WHY?!? I will NOT test again until Thursday and if it's a BFN then I won't test until after AF is gone. I'm due for AF on Halloween. How cruel is that? Stay away AF...

[Hula1974]

Welcome Linny!

Delaney - I buy the BD Probe covers and use one of them everytime. I LOVE it. Easy on and easy off and my thermometer stays clean. They are cheap too.

[Wrighty26]

Oh- I forgot to note-- Delaney-- I clean my thermometer with rubbing alcohol. Keeps it sterile!

[MichelleRenee]

I am thinking I probably O'd on CD16. If so, our timing was off.:( Still hopeful...

[lindybug]

I'd like to join! (Especially this month... Seems like a lucky one!)

I've been off BCP since June, but this is the first month we're trying to TTC. Sorry I didn't join on CD1, but I wasn't positive we would really go through with it. As it turns out, my peak fertile days were (I *think*) this weekend. We were away at a beautiful resort for my 30th birthday, did some talking and decided for sure to go for it! Exciting and scary at the same time.

Here's my stats:
CC Name: Lindybug
Me: Tracy / 30
DH: Greg / 37
Married since: 6/1/2003
Off BCP since: 6/2005
TTC since: 10/2005
Charting since: 6/2005
Known issues/test results: none
Chart: http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99db2
Current status: waiting to O (although it SHOULD be today!)


Thanks!

[nuhmah]

Welcome LindyBug!

I remember the weekend DH and I had "the talk" - it was both scary and exciting. It was totally an OMG moment. :) To make things worse, I was driving, and we were headed to Seattle.

- - - - - - - -

Temps went back up this morning... I have been looking at my charts and wondering if I O'ed back on CD 17 (instead of CD 19). If nothing happens this cycle, we are defenitely seeing the Doc.

Delaney - I don't clean mine, either. Its only me using it, and I put it back in its little case and put it in the nightstand when I am finished.

[mkvh]

Welcome linny and lindy!

Lindy--you are SO right that it is exciting and scary at the same time. I don't think that changes even as you continue TTC!

Michelle--I agree that you O'd Sunday, particularly with today's temp. And you DID BD the day of O, so you still have a chance! And YAY for EWCM. I totally understand how exciting that is. I think I posted almost the same thing when I found mine for the first time.

Wrighty--Meant to say this before, but YAY for Oing! And the chart's looking pretty nice! Did the big nips go away? And good for you for deciding on a course of action. Must be empowering!

Dotsie--Fingers crossed for you! Being patient is totally overrated! Sorry for the BFN today, though.

Hula--At least you don't have an overactive imagination like some of us :rolleyes: (myself included!)... And I've read a lot of what shouldaeloped said.

ABirney--Fingers crossed that that truly is an O for you...you deserve it for being so patient over such a LOOOONG cycle.

Delaney--Count me in as another one who never thought about cleaning the therm.

nuhmah--As I have said before, your chart has me TOTALLY perplexed! Let's just hope that however confusing it is, the end result is clearly positive!!

------------------
4 DPO here. Timing could have been better. I've got a perfect Shettles girl chart if it ends up pg! Me and Lizard, I guess... Hey, at least she proved it was possible to get pg BDing 2 days out! I am joining the ranks of no FPS, although I am studiously trying to ignore them!

[Dotsie]

Michelle I don't think your timing was off. It looks like we had the exact same timing this cycle. A couple of days before O and then the day of O. You definitely have a shot. Although while I'm typing this I remember feeling the same exact way you do.
Welcome Lindy Hope your stay here is short and sweet.

[neenbean]

I am confused... FF changed my O date several times this week :confused: Now I am only 3 days past O and we BD'd on O-1... And I spotted today. We aren't supposed to be trying this month, so I am completely freaked. Though we would be psyched. :)

My problem is that I have a hard time temping at the same time every day. With DD waking occasionally, drinking too much water, and DH stealing the covers, I am awake at all different hours, so it throws my temp off... Ugh.

Suggestions?


eta: Welcome Linny and Lindy

[mkvh]

neen--I'm seeing all solid dots on your chart...are you not indicating at what time you're taking your temp? I think that would help you to see how much it fluctuates based on circumstances. The you can tweak as necessary to get a more realistic picture. Although your temps look pretty consistent for an irregular sleep pattern!

[klav]

Yippiee I did not have to call back!!I was going to call back the insurance person who is helping me with the insurance stuff for the FC, but I didn't haave too!!
We were approved by the insurance to cover three inseminations!! and if we need more, I hope not, they will put in for those. So we are on our way!! yippiee!! the 1st apt. is on the 3rd and then were off from there!
I'm sooo happy!!! :) :D :) :eek: :) :D

[Dotsie]

Klav That is the best news!!! Good for both of you :D Hopefully the 1st one will do the trick!!

[mkvh]

Yay Yay Yay klav!!!!!!!

[ptcrn]

Wow, I've missed so much! This thread (or threads rather) move way too fast for me! I have been lurking a little bit, but just haven't gotten around to posting.

This is a weak attempt at SO's, but I just want to say congrats to Soulmate, Lizard, Mystikal and Gardenia along with anyone else I may have missed in the tons of BFP's lately!

Hugs to you, flygirl. I hope you get another BFP soon.

Welcome to all the newbies! Linnybubbles, I remember lurking in your journal on the WC ~ we were both Maine brides a week apart! Good to see I'm not the only one who started TTCing immediately! :D

I'm currently waiting patiently to O, on CD 13. I think its going to happen soon. My OPK was almost positive today, not quite dark enough to say yes, but a lot darker than the last few. I've become a freak about increasing my CM this cycle. I've been drinking grapefruit juice, eating baby carrots, taking Robitussin (even though I know that just thins it out)! I've never had EWCM and I even have a hard time saying for sure that I have creamy CM. Anyone have any other suggestions? I'm also trying to drink more water, but only after I've done my OPK for the day- a real catch 22!

Oh and congrats to our new threadmistresses!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here!

Welcome Lindybug and Linnybubbles!!!

[nuhmah]

klav - that is great news!!! :)

[CTs_Punkin]

OK - question for you all -
What symptoms do you have before you O? I haven't O'd in a while and am having symptoms similar to my normal pre-AF???? So Slightly confused if anyone gets headaches (migraines), fatigue, skin breakouts right before they O... granted it would be one of those hindsight sort of things, but thought I would ask??? Just trying to keep some hope in this cycle... I'm on CD29... so it could very well go either way.
Have a Drs appt tomorrow evening, so will know more then, but am obsessing...

SO??/ Any "standard" O symptoms for you??
Thanks,
MMT

[jjsanner]

Hi girls. I have a question....

I was in NYC with my girlfriends this past weekend for 4 days (F-M). I took an OPK on Sunday afternoon and it was VERY positive. That night at dinner I felt very crampy, similar to AF cramps, which in the past I have assumed to be ovulation cramps. So I was very bummed because I knew I wouldn't see DH until Monday night.

Sunday night we went out and had an excellent Italian dinner and a little too much wine (I was very drunk). When I temped Monday morning my temp was 98.1 (very high post-o temp for me).

All day Monday I experienced the same crampy feeling, took another OPK that was **almost** positive. Still had slight watery CM.

My temp this morning was 97.7 (very low post-o temp for me).

So my question is this (two questions actually)....1) what has been everyone's experience with drinking on their temps? Could the 98.1 be artificailly elevated due solely to the drinking? And 2) is it possible to get a very positive OPK and O only a few hours later? After O, would I still experience an almost positive OPK 14 hours later?

Please help! I am freaking out here!

[klav]

I have had the same results when drinking the night before my temps go up. as for the O thing a few hrs later I was under the impression it was 24-36 hrs later?

[MichelleRenee]

Thanks mkvh and Dotsie. You're right. I had hoped to BD more right before Oing, but it's great if we actually BD'd on my O date. I told mike the same thing... that I thought we had missed our chance. He said "what are you talking about? If we did it on the day you O'd then we did it just right!"

It must be "crazy TTC Michelle" thinking we are off. I guess I just have a picture of what I want my chart to look like and I think that is I can get it looking like that we will get PG. I think my mind sometimes tricks me to believe that my chart is telling my body what to do instead of my body telling the chart what to do. Does that make sense?

Anyways, I am excited to say that I O'd, so hopefully I'll get some red crosshairs tomorrow. I have had some cramping today. Nothing major. Just little twinges here and there that make me wonder what my body is up to. I am also breaking out, which I always do around O time.

jjsanner, according to fertilityfriend.com alcohol does affect your temps, especially if drinking large amounts.

CTs_Punkin, before I O I break out pretty badly. That's the only symptom that I can count on monthly.:rolleyes:

[cat_loverpq]

jjsanner ~ Drinking will most definitely elevate your temp the next morning! As for the OPK's, the ones I have say you normally ovulate 24-48 hours after a *positive* result. Since your result on Sunday was only almost positive and you got the same result on Monday, I would say your O date is probably today (or possibly could've been late Monday). However, there are other ladies here that are *much* more knowledgable on charting than I am, and they may have a different opinion. :)

ETA ~ Welcome Lindy and Linny!

CT's Punkin ~ Sorry, no consistent O symptoms here (I've only O'd twice since being off BCP ;))

Oh, and I don't clean my therm regularly either, but I do on occassion when I think about it.

[UTChick]

jjsanner~If I remember correctly, some OPKs have different sensitivity levels. For instance, a +OPK on one brand might mean you would O in 12-24 hours, whereas a +OPK on another brand might indicate O will occur in 24-36 hours. Look at the instructions that came with your box and see what they say. And alcohol does affect temps. :)

klav~That is wonderful news!!:D

Welcome linny and lindy!!



Well...CD19 here and apparently nowhere near Oing. :confused: I don't know what is going on. I had a little watery CM a couple of days ago and then it dried up. Completely. I continue to get - OPKs and temps are still really low. During my normal (rather, normal for me) cycles, I O around CD19 or 20 and that obviously will not be happening this cycle. I am trying not to get bummed. I have really been good so far this cycle about not stressing. In fact, there have been a couple of days when I forgot to do an OPK and DH had to remind me to do it. We have been out of town a lot lately on the weekends and while it was fun, not stressful for me, maybe it was stressful on my body and that is why I am delayed? :confused: Who knows...

ETA: cat lover, maybe I should borrow your sig phrase. My body apparently isn't liking me right now. ;)

[neenbean]

Thanks for the input mkvh. Sometimes I don't even remember when I took my temp as I do it right before I get up- as in to run to the bathroom or go get DD.... I will try to pay more attention. Often it is at 3 or 6 or 7... Or sometime in between. :rolleyes: No very helpful, I know.

I know in the past drinking definitely elevated my temps!

For pre-O symptoms, I am cranky and tired... That is all I can think of right now. But mostly cranky.

[ABirney]

Hey ladies! Hope everyone is having a good night....
Welcome to linny and lindy!!
klav that's great about the insurance!
MichelleRenee Yay for EWCM and O'ing! Hopefully you caught the eggie!
As for me temp went up a little bit more but I'm still not sure if I O'd or not... Still just a waiting game!

[Dotsie]

ct's punkinI don't really have O symptoms except for the pains I get when I"m about to O. Sorry.
I feel like AF is about to arrive any minute. I've been feeling this way for the past few hours. Oh I hope this is a good sign. I test with a BFN today. I see that all kinds of people get +'s at 10DPO but I think I'm going to try and resist the urge.

[Soulmate]

~*~*~*~*~Baby Dust~*~*~*~*~*~*~

[gator97]

CTs Punkin- I get really tired for a couple of days before I O, I have right side pain a few days before (no matter which side I O on), and I break out. I also have a pretty significant dip on my chart that indicates I will O 4-8 days later.

I'm still hanging out. 14DPO today, BFN tonight. Not sure when to stop taking the progesterone. I'm going to call my dr. tomorrow. It sucks to elongate an unsuccessful cycle. Feeling pretty sad this week so I'm lurking but not really posting. Just feeling sad that I would be 9 weeks pregnant now. . and not being pregnant really sucks. I didn't get a BFP until 15 DPO last time. . . so I might wait a few more days.

Trying to look on the bright side. We are celebrating our first anniversary in a few weeks. I'll be able to go on the rollercoaster at Sea World, I'll be able to drink wine when we go to dinner, I'll be able to fully enjoy the food and wine festival at Epcot. It all sounds good but now I'm going to be 31 (at the very least) when we do have a baby. I so thought this would be easier.

[gator97]

okay--more shoutouts. . .

klav- great insurance news. Fingers crossed you won't need all 3!

Welcome Linny and Lindy! Hope your stay is short and sweet.

I'll be better at SOs next week, I promise.

[kmmommy]

klav ~ So happy your insurance company is cooperating with you. Hope it only takes one!!

[polkadot]

Klav- that is great news about the insurance.....hope it only takes once....

Welcome to the newbies- Hope your stays are short and sweet.....:D

Gator- hope you find out one way or the other very soon....the waiting just makes it worse....sorry you are still feel blue....i hope you feel better soon..:o

Michelle Renee- hope you caught the egg....and as a matter of fact i hope i caught mine too;)

A Birney- hope you get your BFP very soon...chart looks good to me.:)


as for me....still waiting for Ff to call my O i wonder if it will call Sunday or Monday as my actual O day...we'll see....let the obsessing begin ladies

[Applebee]

WOW! I've been away from CC for way too long! I can't believe how big the group has gotten. Koren, thanks for mentioning you've been hanging out here.

It's nice to see so many BFP that have happened. Wishing everyone luck - I must of spent 30 min rubbing the statue!

[Ilovemygeek]

Soulmate Congratulations and thanks for the Happy Birthday shout-out!

Threadmistress please move me to I Think I O'ed - Testing 10/31 - 11/6 and change my age to 23.

[nuhmah]

Would someone peek at my chart? I discarded my temp on CD 19 (the day that FF thought I O'ed), and it moved my new O date to CD 17. Any thoughts on whether I O'ed on the 17th or 19th?

[Dotsie]

nuhmah It looks like you O'd on cd17. Why did you discard the temp?

[Dotsie]

o.k. so I tested with FMU this morning (DH made me :p ) and I used an Equate. I *think* there might be a line. We both *think* we see it. It's hard to tell. I think my eyes might be playing tricks on me. I'm going to test again tomorrow and pray that I get a line that is visible. Oh and my temp went up .3 today.

[MichelleRenee]

FF says I O'ed, so I guess I am in the 2WW.

Threadmistress, please move me to I Think I O'ed - Testing 10/31 - 11/6.

Dotsie, I will be praying for you!

Polkadot, right back at ya! Hopefully FF calls your O real soon so you can start obsessing!

Gator, I'm really praying for you. I know I can't say anything to make you feel better, so let me just offer {{{HUGS}}}

Klav, yay for insurance finally coming through for someone! I hope it only takes one time!

[gator97]

CD1
Please move me to Waiting to O

[Wrighty26]

I'm sorry for AF, Gator :(

[jesseybell]

I am sorry as well gator :(

[Dotsie]

I'm so sorry gator

[klav]

So Sorry Gator ((HUGS))
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I'm still holding at 97.9?? and this Am I got some watery CM is that possible I seem to get a little in the Am and then dry the rest of the day?:confused:

[mkvh]

Dotsie--big, POSITIVE thoughts and prayers coming your way!

gator--I'm sorry AF found you. But I'm glad you can look on the bright side AND that you have such a great trip to look forward to. Happy early anniversary!

neen--you're welcome! I think noting the time will help. I'm pretty textbook (I've tested the theory) in that my temp changes by .1 per 1/2 hour early or late pretty consistently.

MichelleRenee, Ilovemygeek{/b]--YAY for Oing! Join us in the 2ww...:rolleyes:

[b]nuhmah--discarding the late + OPK, I concur. Your chart looks "righter" that way...

polkadot--I'm voting for Monday. More significant temp rise Monday to Tuesday AND a coinciding dry up.

ABirney--Leaning toward agreeing with the CH on FF. Wow, your patience paid off. YAY!!

UTChick--Sending some O vibes your way.

jjsanner--On drinking, I find that it only really affects me if I have more than 2 or 3 drinks (wine and beer)...

CT's Punkin--answered you in another thread...

ptcrn--GREEN TEA!

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WHEW! Okay...so I'm putting down the thermometer as it is FREEZING in our bedroom now that it has been down in the 30s here at night. Even with extra blankets, my temps is LOW for post-O, and I'm starting to worry. Compulsive...

[Mystikal]

Gator I'm sorry about AF. :(
Dotsie keeping all crossables crossed for you!
nuhmah I would say you O'ed on CD19. Why did you discard that temp?

I saw there were quite a few testers coming up so I wanted to drop off a fresh batch of
*~*~*BABY DUST*~*~*

Let's get some more BFP's in here!!!! :D

[lindybug]

Thanks for the warm welcome, ladies!

My temp was up this morning, so I'm pretty sure I O'd yesterday, as expected. (I'll find out for sure in 2 days, I guess.) Unfortunately, DH had a long day at work and was too tired to BD last night. We covered our bases the previous 3 nights though, so hopefully there were still some swimmers around to catch that egg. LOL

Question: Does BD'ing on O+1 really increase your chances? Or is it too late at that point?

gator ~ Sorry about AF. Gotta look on the bright side though... You will be able to partake in the Food and Wine Festival at Epcot! I am jealous. We're heading to Disney World over Thanksgiving. As much as we would LOVE to surprise our parents with some good baby news while we're down there, if we're not preggo this month, at least I'll be able to ride Space Mountain. LOL

[nuhmah]

Thanks for looking ladies!

If I leave the temp in the on 19th, it tells me that I O'ed on the 19th. I am thinking that I *really* O'ed on the 17th.

I was just playing around with it to see what it would tell me.

[katmg]

Talk me down folks...talk me down. I am really wanting to test tomorrow morning but my temps don't indicate anything different than normal. If anything my temps are a bit lower than normal. I need to wait until Monday to test so that I don't get so bummed about a BFN.

I don't really have any FPS symptoms to speak of...not sure why I'm so obsessed with testing. Maybe I just want to have a reason why my pants don't fit so well today! ;)

[jjsanner]

Lindybug, I'm very interested to hear the responses to your question re: BD on O+1. That would be me this cycle :rolleyes: .

[jesseybell]

Being able to ride the rides at Disney in 2 weeks was definitely the only positive thing about AF this month. I am actually hoping that O holds off to Day 23 like it did this month - that will be the day after we get back from Florida so hopefully vaca BD will help...I don't want it to be Day 14 because that would be before we went to Florida. But itwill NOT prevent me from going on the rides. I can't wait. At 35 I've only been to Disney once!

[cat_loverpq]

Hey ladies! I just got back from the doctor's office. She pretty much told me that it's a little early to jump into infertility proceedings (which I already knew she'd say), but she said we should check my hormone levels just to see if everything is normal. I took my charts in and she looked them over and said that it was somewhat abnormal for the cycles to be as sporadic as they are (duh!), and said that if my hormone levels come back all messed up then we would go from there. :rolleyes: The lab was just down the hall from her office, so they took my blood and that was it.

So no real progress, but at least I'll know in a couple days if my hormones are jacked up or not. I'm not too depressed about it though. Since I FINALLY started a new cycle, I'm really praying that this will be "the one" and we won't have to worry about it. :D I guess we'll know for sure in another 2 weeks or so...crossing my fingers for an eggie to pop out!

katmg ~ Have DH hide your tests until Monday. :D That's about the best I can do to talk you down!

lindybug ~ No idea on the O+1, but it can't hurt!

nuhmah ~ I agree with Mystikal that you O'd CD19. Just my opinion though!

Mystikal and Soulmate ~ Thanks for the dust!! I'm praying it will do the trick for me this month!

Dotsie ~ Sounds promising! Can't wait to see what tomorrow's test shows...fingers crossed for you!

UTChick ~ Maybe we should start our own support group - TTC When Your Body Says 'Screw You!' :p

[jjsanner]

Lindybug, I found this at www.babyhopes.com:

"Once the ovum is thus released, it is available to a mature sperm for fertilization for 12 to 48 hours before it begins to disintegrate. This is the most fertile period of your cycle and during ovulation your chances of conception are highest."

Also this:

"For women who are trying to get pregnant, it is often advised that they should have intercourse before ovulation. This helps in conception since the sperm from the man are deposited into the cervix and as soon as the ovum is released, it has the opportunity to be fertilized. But this in no means limits the woman's ability to get pregnant after ovulation. In fact her chances of getting pregnant only depend on when she ovulates and how that is timed with intercourse. Considering the fact that the ovum starts to disintegrate 12 to 48 hours, there is a possibility that your partner's sperm can fertilize the egg up to two days after you ovulate. Keep in mind that the chances of getting pregnant this way dramatically decreases the further away from ovulation you are."

So it looks like I still have a chance this month. YIPPEE!

[MichelleRenee]

Just another random question here. It is getting cold in Ohio, and it is our first winter in this apartment so we are still adjusting to our heat. The past couple days it has been really warm in our apartment. Yesterday I noticed Mike had the heat up to 76, so I turned it down to 70. Could adjusting the heat like this affect my temps?

Just wondering...

Also, I had my usual mid-cycle break-out on my face and it was so strange. I have never broken out anywhere but on my forehead but right now I have 3 zits on my chin, 2 on my cheek, 1 by my nose and 1 right by my temple. This is all so new to me...:confused:

[jeggink]

OK, I would like to join, again :). I used to be a WC TTC with charting member it seems like eons ago. That is how I got pg with DS.

CC Name: Jeggink
Me: Judi, 32
DH: Dan, 32
DS: Joseph, 9/23/04
Married since: Sept. 28, 2002
Off BCP since: 10/05
TTC since: Just seeing what happens (with charting)
Charting since: 8/03
Known issues/test results: None
Chart: FF Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c595)
Current status: 1st pp AF 10/05

My chart look weird but I am positive I already O'd, just not sure of the day :rolleyes: . I think I am about 3 DPO, but I could be anywhere from 2-6 DPO. Any comments are welcome. No cm results for the last few days as I have a YI.

We figure right now that if we get pg again, it's OK, we are ready, but we aren't going out of our way (yet :) ) to do that. So I will just chart around O time to get an idea of when AF will come so I know if I am pg or not :). It took us 6 months last time.

Anyway, if I don't get AF by 11/4 I will test. The last time I got a + on 11 DPO and it was extremely light still.

Very excited to be back and thinking about #2!

About the O+1, I know on the WC we used to have a chart that was from 5 days before to 2 days after O and the chance of conceiving when you BD'd on one of those days. I believe 1 & 2 days before O was the best time. I just wish I could l find it now :( .

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here!

Welcome jeggink!

[nuhmah]

Welcome jeggink!!

MichelleRenee- I notice that when I sleep with more clothes on than usual, my temps go up. Maybe the heat being high gives the same affect. Wow! Heat at 76? I wish my husband would let me turn it on above 66!! :)
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I un-discarded my temp on CD 19. According to last months charts, and my predicted date I am supposed to get AF tomorrow. Last month, I saw a dip the day before AF came (and of course, the day of). I have yet to see such drastic dips, so here's to hoping - right? FF says I can test on Friday, but I may wait past that. Who knows? If I don't have AF by Sunday I will test then. Happy Wednesday, all!!

ETA: Holy Moly! I just got done doing some chart stalking... there are some FABULOUS looking charts out there!!! Maybe the Great Pumpkin has been visiting our thread!! LOL

[lindybug]

jjsanner ~ Thanks for looking into that! Makes sense to me. Now I just have to hope DH gets home at a reasonable hour tonight so I can seduce him. LOL

[MichelleRenee]

Nuhmah, we live in an apartment where we don't pay heat. I'm sur he will change his wyas once he is footing the bill!

I have tried to wear the same thing to bed each night, as far as socks/no socks, pants/shorts.....

I also just realized the title of this thread is "There IS something in the cider" and I haven't had any cider yet this fall!!!:eek:

***running to the store for some of this magic cider***;)

[jeggink]

OK, found the old WC thread from 1/04 and did some research. Here is the info

Chances of Pregnancy by Day of Intercourse
Day zero is ovulation
-5, 0%
-4, 11%
-3, 15%
-2, 20%
-1, 26%
0, 15%
1, 9%
2, 5%
3, 0%

HTH!

[Dotsie]

I can't believe how small the chances are each month of getting pg. It's a wonder people do get pg. From the chart posted I have a 15% shot of getting pg this past cycle.

[purplesunshine7]

HI I am new to this thread and want to start charting but I am not sure how or when to start. I am on cd3. Af came early I have been ttc since july. any information would help. I usually can tell when I o because of the pains but I didn't get them this month.


Married 4/5/03
m/c 6/2/05
ttc 7/05
no known reasons
Purplesunshine7

[Dotsie]

Welcome purplesunshine
This is a great place with really informed women. You'll learn a lot. I sure did. You are starting at a perfect time to chart. You don't normally have to temp during AF but I do because I don't want to get out of habit. First off I would buy a BD thermometer (one with a light) and then sign up for www.fertilityfriend.com or ovusoft. FF is free (VIP trial membership is I believe 2 weeks). Pick out a consistent time that you wake in the morning. As soon as you wake up without getting out of bed or moving too much take your temp and write it down on a pad if you plan on going back to sleep :)
Good Luck.

[Sabriel]

purplesunshine7 Hey! Good to see you over here. I would recommend reading Taking Chart of Your Fertility. It is a fabulous book with lots of information. Good luck and please feel free to ask any questions that you might have.

jeggink Welcome! Thanks for posting that info. I can't believe the chances are so low!

MichelleRenee I hear you on the breaking out. I never had this problem in high school! It is coming back to haunt me. :rolleyes:

[MichelleRenee]

Sabriel, I never broke out in high school either. In fact, I first started breaking out the summer after I graduated. I would always break out real bad about 2 weeks before my period, which I know realize was around my O time.

[MichelleRenee]

Nevermind... figured it out...:o

[babylove]

Congrats to all the BFPs that have appeared since my not-so-grand exit a while back (Mystikal!!!!)...anyway, just wanted to pop in and say that I was happy to see in this month's Self Magazine, a multi-page spread on trying to get pregnant...and TCOYF and Toni Weschler were mentioned!!! I was so excited to see a major publication informing its readers about TCOYF. So, if you see it on the stands, pick it up!

Adios!

[ABirney]

Hey everyone!! Hope you all are having a good day.
Dotsie Your chart is looking good! Crossing all crossables that it really was a line you saw!
Gator so sorry the witch showed up. Hopefully you'll have a fun vacation/anniv though!
polkadot I think Monday looks good for you. Also thanks to you and mkvh for checking out my chart.. hope you are right! (Even though that means our timing wasn't the greatest... )
nuhmah I would say you O'd the 19th but that's just my guess. Good luck testing!
MichelleRenee, Ilovemygeek, and lindybug yay for O'ing! Hopefully you caught some eggies!
katmg Maybe that's an omen that you have such an urge to test?? Good luck Monday!
catlover Hope everything turns out good on your bloodwork!
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