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Charting is Knowledge
10-14-2005, 09:54 AM
TTCers of ConstantChatter:
Charting Our Course to the BFPs

http://www.ripleysorlando.com/images2/fertilitystatues.jpg
The fertility statues are known to work for some who rub them around the time of possible conception.
It is said that the baby is the most potent part of the statue.

So rub away! :D It's worth a shot!


Who we are:
This is a group of women using charting (temperatures, CM, CP, OPK/FM results, or a combination of these) to try to conceive and, along the way, are learning a heckuvalot about their own bodies! Many of us use a software program to keep track of our charts as well as allowing us to share them with each other. The most common ones are FertitlityFriend.com and Ovusoft.com.

Your threadmistresses for this thread are Mystikal and Lizard!

To our members:
This thread gets very busy at times, so in order to keep things less overwhelming and a bit more organized, we start a new thread each month as well as after 3 BFPs. A link to the new thread is always posted at the end of the current thread to help everyone find their way over. The threadmistress would really appreciate it if everyone would post their updates in Red. That way, if I get a bit behind, it is much quicker to get the thread up-to-date.


Previous Thread... (http://www.constantchatter.com/showthread.php?t=8442)


KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!

Want to join the fun??
We welcome one and all. It doesn’t matter if you have never charted before or if you’ve been charting to avoid. I am sure you will find lots of help and support in this group.

If you would like to join, CD1 is the time to do it! That way, we can cheer you on
throughout your cycle, rather than 2 days before you test! :cool:

Please don't be discouraged by the number of posts in this thread. You don’t have to read the whole thread to join. Feel free to just jump in on the last page. Just read through these first couple of posts and post a reply with the following information and we will get you added right away. Of course, none of this info is a must but we like to know a little bit about one another.


WC Name: If Applicable
Me: name/age
DH: name/age
Married since: date
Off BCP since: date
TTC since: date
Charting since: date
Known issues/test results:
Chart: link
Current status: waiting to O, What the bleep .., testing...

Charting is Knowledge
10-14-2005, 09:55 AM
- Member ETF Status -

Lutealating:

Think I O'ed - Testing 10/17 - 10/23
Marteneym (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fa78)

Think I O'ed - Testing 10/24 - 10/30:
gator97 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/84b2d), Hula1974 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/905ef), Jesseybell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cd4f1), JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf),

Think I O'ed - Testing 10/31 - 11/6:
bumble, Dotsie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e00ca), Katmg (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/89994), Klav (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21291), ShelbyMay (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/67c07)

Folliculating:
Waiting to O (aka - Boring Part of the Cycle)
Applebee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/98534), Catloverpq (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/da20b), Copswife03 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/daf53), CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas), Ellebelle (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2f8f5), Graciebella (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7a038), Hiker04 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e86f8), Ilovemygeek (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bec65), Jjsanner (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/24f94), Jnshanna (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cafa6), Kiddo (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/kiddo), Kristi32302 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/45b0a), MichelleRenee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e174a), Mkvh (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99502), Nuhmah (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/d72dc), Polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d), Ptcrn (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bed5d), Spencer's_Girl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6f9cc), UTChick (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf25d), Wrighty26 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/beb7b)

Stagnating:
What the *bleep* is going on?!?!
ABirney (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrsabirney), Dlj78 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=dlj78), Gymwidow (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/813ab)

Chart not Updated -- Waiting for an update:


Taking a Charting Break/Temporarily TTA:
Bellefior (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6231d) - SWH, Ellidew (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/78d2a) - Temporarily TTA, LDS Angel 19 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/64d1c), Mayham (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/be39e) - SWH, Sabriel - TTA (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c)

Percolating:
Expecting Mommies!

BFPs in October: (15)
amurphy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a5e06), Bottleored (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/44b0a), BunnyBeth (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e5de5), Calla Lily (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b025d), Ds2003 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ds2003), Flygirl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/flygirl), Gardenia (http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=gardeniacc), jbenny75 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/803b1), Kaeden's Mommy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bcdb2), Lizard (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/af125), Mystikal (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/RaeK622), Ryan (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3f12b), SarahnCraig (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c1846), Shouldaeloped (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/63d7a), Soulmate (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Soulmate)

BFPs in September: (3)
Baby Lust (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Shanes_Angel), Lowcountrywed (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c4aeb), Sabriel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c)

BFPs in August: (11)
Akachan93 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/229b9), Crazycaro (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21ac6), Guinness (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=10&id=guinness&tc=0&p=), jeeplover (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/721bb), Indiana Bride (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1d936), LittleStar (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c204a), Mel7dog (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ca05d), Missy329 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2b4de), MMHinCA (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c14c1), Sinclair319 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/sinclair319), Stumbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b1333), Uskiku (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cdfb0),

BFPs in July: (10)
Elenitsa (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=13&id=elenitsa&tc=0&p=), Heidi0622 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/549f8), Jane&Andy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c455f), Kopper (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/9e5e6), MrsCantDecide (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59e5b), Red_Canuck, Sevilla, ShannonGH (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ShannonGH), Tracie (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/a18c8), Tunibell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59461)

BFPs in June: (2)
Christy5599, Lovin'it

Tributatoring:
Proud Cheerleaders!
T3h_wookie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/25336)

Please advise if I’m off-target with your ETF (that's Estimated Test-Fest) or other status, or just need a good old-fashioned Ovary Shout!

-- Please remember to post all updates in red! Thank you!

Charting is Knowledge
10-14-2005, 09:55 AM
Our Members:

ABirney (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrsabirney)
Me: Angie, 30
DH: Scott, 28 (29 soon)
Married since: Sept 25, 2004
Off BC since: Dec '04
TTC since: Sept '05
Charting since: Dec 20 '04
Known issues: none

Almostthere
WC Name: Almostthere
Me: Sarah
Married since: 6-2-2001
Off BCP since: forever
TTC since: September 2005
Charting since: September 2005
Known issues/test results: None

Applebee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/98534)
Me: Lori Ann
DH: Ted
Married: 4.4.03
Chart: since Feb '05
Known issues/test results:
Day3 Test all ok, DH's SA ok, but will have another one done. Motility on the low side

Bellefior (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6231d)
ME: 36
DH: 35
Married since: 5/31/03
Off BCP since: 5/05
TTC since: 5/05
Charting since: 5/05
Known issues/test results: None

Bumble
DH: 33
Married since: 8.2003
TTC since: 4.2005
Charting since: 1.2005
Known issues/test results: miscarriage 6.2005 (8 weeks)

Cat_loverpq (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/da20b)
Me: Cortney
DH: Glenn
Married since: 6/5/04
Off BCP since: February 2005
TTC since: 8/19/05
Charting since: February 2005
Known issues/test results: none

Copswife03 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/daf53)
Me: Brooke/25
DH: Joe/27
Married since: 10/11/2003
Off BCP since: 8/20/2005
TTC since: 8/20/2005
Charting since: 8/22/2005
Known issues/test results: None

CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas)
ME: MMT age 33
DH: CT age 36
Married: 11/04
Off BCP: 12/04
TTC since: 01/05
Known issues/test results: Long cycles

Dlj78 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=dlj78)
Me: Dana/27
DH: Nick/31
Married since: 9/18/04
Off BCP since: 2/2005
TTC since: 6/2005
Charting since: 2/2005
Known issues/test results: none

Dotsie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e00ca)
Me: Dorothy 30
DH: Sean 34
Married: 10/27/01
DS: Aidan 6/27/03
TTC #2: 9/2005
Known issues/test results: none

Ellebelle (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2f8f5)
Me: 27
DH: 34
Married: 06.21.03
Off BCP: 08.03
Charting Since: 08.03
TTC Since: 06.05
Known issues/test results: none

Ellidew (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/78d2a)
Me: ellidew, 25
DH: 27
Married since: June 1, 2002
Off BCP since: 01/2005
TTC since: 07/2005
Charting since: 01/2005
Known issues/test results: none

Gator97 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/84b2d)
Me: Kristen/30
DH: Peter/30
Married since: 11/06/04
Off BCP since: 12/04
TTC since: 02/05
Charting since: 12/04
Known issues/test results: dx endometriosis/adenomyosis 08/05
m/c 09/28/05

graciebella (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7a038)
Me: graciebella/34
DH: hubby /29
Married since: 10/09/04
Off BCP since: long time
TTC since: 10/04, with 6 month break
Charting since: 10/05
Known issues/test results: 1 blocked tube, irregular ovulation

Gymwidow (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/813ab)
Me: Melissa/28
DH: Alan/29
Married since: June '03
Off BCP since: Feb. '05
TTC since: June '05
Charting since: Feb. '05
Known issues/test results: PCOS diagnosed 9/05 and low sperm count diagnosed 10/05.

Hiker04 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e86f8)
Me: C, 26
DH: K, 37
Married since: 9-4-2004
Off BCP since: 5-2004
TTC since: 6-2005
Charting since: 6-2005
Known issues/test results: m/c Aug 4, 2005

Hula1974 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/905ef)
Me: Heather/30
DH: Tim/31
Married since: 6/8/02
Off BCP since: 8/04
TTC since: 10/05
Charting since: 2/05
Known issues: Migraine Headaches

Ilovemygeek (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bec65)
Me: Rachel (22)
DH: Trevor (23)
Married since: June 8, 2002
Off BCP since: June 12, 2005
TTC since: As soon as my cycles regulate themselves
Charting since: June 12, 2002
Known issues/test results: None

Jesseybell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cd4f1)
Me: Jessie/ just turned 35
DH: Dan/ just turned 33
Married Since: May 21, 2005
Off BCP Since: July 5, 2005
Charting since: August 10, 2005
Known issues/test results: Diagnosed with endometriosis at age 19, DES Daughter

Jjsanner (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/24f94)
Me: Jen, 30
DH: Eric, 33
DS: Elijah, born 2/6/2004
Married since: 4/26/2003
Off BCP since: 10/2004
TTC since: 6/2005
Charting since: 10/2004
Known issues/test results: None

Jnshanna (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cafa6)
Me: Shanna/29
DH: Jose/30
Married since: 10/01/94
Off BCP since: Haven't been on BCP for many years.
TTC since: July 2005
Charting since: 8/07/05
Known issues/test results: None

JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf)
Me: Jody, 32
DH: Scott, 31
Married Since: August 30, 2003
Off BCP Since: At least 10 years now
Charting Since: January 2005
Known issues/test results: None

Charting is Knowledge
10-14-2005, 09:56 AM
Members continued...

Katmg (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/89994)
Me: Katmg, 26
DH: Jim, 30
Married since: Nov. 8, 2003
Off BCP since: 05/04
Charting since: 08/04
TTC since: 05/05
Known issues/test results: None

kiddo (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/kiddo)
Me: Karen, 29
DH: Nate, 30
Married since: Oct 26, 2002
Off BC since: July '04
TTC since: August '04
Charting since: August '05
Known issues: none

Klav (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21291)
Me: Koren/ 33
DH: Dennis/32
Married since: Oct11,2003
Off BCP since: Jan 2003
TTC since: seriously jan 2004
Charting since: Nov2004
Known issues/test results:
may have a blocked tube but lap of '03 showed nothing.
from 50 mg of clomid to 100mg of clomid with estradal and progesterone meds.
starting IUI injection class in November

Kristi32302 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/45b0a)
Me: Kristi/31
DH: Kelly/32
Married since: March 23, 2002
Off BCP since: Feb. 2004
TTC since: May 2004
Charting since: March 2004
Known issues/test results: None

LDS Angel 19 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/64d1c)
Me: Michelle, 22
DH: Aaron, 23
Married since: Sept 4th 2004
Angel: Allison Grace, born and died June 17 2005
Off BCP since: Never on BCP
TTC (again) since: August 2005
Charting since: Charted August, took September off, and now starting again.
Known issues/test results: None at this time

Marteneym (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fa78)
Me: 22
DH: 27
Married since: October 4, 2003
SWH since: October 2004
TTC since: December 2004
Off BCP since: September 2004
Known issues/test results:
Known issues: Delayed Ovulation, SA issues, Varicocele possible
9/9 FSH and Rubella- NORMAL
9/12 SA ABNORMAL- count 30mil/
motility 30% -repeat in 8wks

Mayham (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/be39e)
Me: 28
DH: 28
Married since: 5.02
Off BCP since: 9.03
TTC since: 3.05
Charting since: 5.05
Known issues/test results:
Delayed Ovulation, SA issues, Varicocele possible
9/9 FSH and Rubella- NORMAL
9/12 SA ABNORMAL- count 30mil/
motility 30% -repeat in 8wks

MichelleRenee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e174a)
Me: Michelle/ 23
DH: Michael/ 29
Married since: May 29, 2005
Off BCP since: September 2005
TTC since: September 2005
Charting since: October 2005
Known issues/test results: none so far!

Mkvh (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99502)
Me: 28
DH: 31
Married: 3/19/2005
Last Depo Injection: 12/04
TTC Since: 7/05
Known issues/test results: None

Neen
Me: 30
DH: 30
Married since: 11/15/03
Off BCP since: 2/04
TTC since: waiting until 1/06
Charting since: 10/05/05 (also did before BFP with DD)
Known issues/test results: none

Nuhmah (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/d72dc)
Me: Jennifer/27
DH: James/32
Married since: December 18, 2004
Off BCP since: July 2005
TTC since: August 2005
Charting since: August 2005
Known issues/test results: none

Polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d)
Me: lauren 26
DH: brian 27
Married since: 11-20-04
Off BCP since: May 05
TTC since: May 05
Charting since: May 05
Known issues/test results: none

Ptcrn (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bed5d)
Me: Jen/30
DH: Gerry/29
Married since: July 30th 2005
Off BCP since: August 14th 2005
TTC and Charting since: August 14th 2005
Known issues/test results: none

Sabriel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c)
Me: C, 24
DH: J, 23
Married since: May 22, 2005
Off BCP since: Never on BCP
TTC since: August 2, 2005
Charting since: May 8, 2004
Known issues/test results: m/c on October 15, 2005 @ 6 weeks 4 days

ShelbyMay (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/67c07)
Me: Shelby/25
DH: James/27
Married since: 5/17/03
Off BCP since: early September 2004
TTC since: 2/16/05
Charting since: 9/08/04
Known issues/test results:
possible semen allergy/antibodies

Spencer's_Girl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6f9cc)
Me: melissa / 24
DH: keith / 34
Married since: Sept. 11, 2004
Off BCP since: August 26, 2004
TTC since: Sept. 11, 2004
Charting since: November 20, 2004
Known issues/test results: None

UTChick (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf25d)
Me: Kathy 28
DH: Mike 34
Married since: September 20, 2003
Off BCP since: December 2004
TTC since: May 2005
Charting since: May 2005
Known issues/test results: None

Wrighty26 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/beb7b)
Me (Michelle): 27
DH (Dan): 27
Married: 12.28.02
Off BCP: 01/2004
Charting Since: on and off since 2004
TTC Since: 05.05
Known issues/test results: None

Charting is Knowledge
10-14-2005, 09:57 AM
Things I Have Learned About TTC
by WC's Sherylb

* TTC is a journey. You will discover things about yourself that you never expected. You will face fears you never thought you had. You will find joy in little things.

* TTC can bring you closer to your DH, or it can pull you apart. If your marriage is not solid, you will find out quickly.

* No one understands exactly what you are feeling at any given moment, but someone can empathize at least a little bit.

* You will experience an emotional roller coaster ride. There will be highs and lows and fast moments and slow. Sometimes you have to wait in a very, very slow moving line. You may not even get the seat you want. It is not always fun, it can be scary, but in the end it is worth it.

* "Just relax" is the last thing in the world you want to hear from someone, but it is OK if you say it about yourself.

* There will be moments when you question your own decision to start TTC. You will wonder if you should wait or if you should just give up. Those are normal. But you will get past those feelings.

* The blue and green turtle likes to pop its head out! You will hear of someone's pregnancy and turn green with envy and blue inside because it isn't you.

* It isn't fair, it isn't easy, and it isn't pretty. But you keep doing it because the reward is worth it.

* You will be your best friend and your worst enemy. Your body will
surprise you and yet disappoint you.

* Some women do get lucky and conceive right away. Others aren't so lucky and have to struggle to get there. Hope you will be in the first category, but prepare yourself to be in the second.

* Once you decide to TTC, there will be babies and pregnant women everywhere! You could swear there is a baby boom going on!

* You will have questions. No one will ever be in exactly your position, so don't be surprised when no one can give you exactly the answer you are looking for. But there are people that can contribute, so don't be afraid to ask!

* Two lines on a pregnancy test is not the end of the struggle. Pregnancy has lots of struggles in and of itself.

Charting is Knowledge
10-14-2005, 09:57 AM
HTP sensitivity chart

These numbers might come in handy when shopping for HPTs.
The lower the amount of mIU measured, the more sensitive the test is!

AimStick Pregnancy Test Strip 20 mIU
AccuHome Midstream Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Pregnancy Test (Cup) 25 mIU
Clearblue +/- 25 mIU
Clearblue Digital 25 mIU
Confirm 1-Step Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Dollar Store Brand Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Equate Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
First Response Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
One Step Be Sure Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Precise Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Quickview Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Walgreen Digital 25 mIU
e.p.t. Home Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
Fact Plus Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
CVS Cartridge Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
CVS Midstream Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Drug Emporium Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. + / - Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. Certainty Digital Test 50 mIU
early Pregnancy test 50 mIU
RiteAid Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Target Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
WalMart Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Walgreens Pregnancy Test 100 mIU

Charting is Knowledge
10-14-2005, 09:58 AM
- Common TTC abbreviations

This is a list of some of the more common TTC abbreviations. I know as a newcomer to the TTC threads, it can be hard to keep them all straight. I hope these will help, and if anyone has any they would like added, please let me know!


•2WW: "2 week wait" - The approximate time from possible conception to menstruation due date; Pregnancy tests should be taken near the end of the 2WW.
•AF: "Aunt Flo"; Your period; Menstruation
•AFNW: "Aunt Flo Not Wanted"; the day your period is expected to start, but you are hoping it doesn't!
•AO: anovulatory (cycle without ovulation)
•BBs: "boobs"; breasts
•BBL: "be back later"
•BBT: Basal Body Thermometer; This is used to measure your basal body temperature, when you wake up in the morning, after at least 3 hours of sleep, before you start to move around; Use a special BBT thermometer to take your temperature because they measure the small changes in temperature from day to day more accurately than the regular fever thermometers.
•BCP: Birth control pills
•BD'ing: "baby dancing"; baby-making intercourse
•BFN: "Big Fat Neutral" or “Big Fat Negative”; Negative pregnancy test.
•BF'ing: breast-feeding
•BRB: "be right back"
•CD: cycle day; a particular day in your menstrual cycle (example: CD1 is the first day of your period)
•CL: Cover Line; a visual tool used to separate the low (pre-ovulatory) temps from high (post-ovulatory) temps; a coverline is typically based on the temperatures 6 days prior to ovulation.
•CM: cervical mucous; one of the most useful clues your body can give you in predicting your fertility; it can range from dry, creamy, sticky, or (the most fertile) egg white/watery type.
•CF: cervical fluid; same as cervical mucus
•CP: cervical position; an optional, but sometimes really useful, fertility sign; CP will generally be low, firm and closed before and after ovulation, and high, soft and open during your fertile time.
•DD: "dear daughter"
•DH: "dear husband"
•DS: "dear son"
•DPO: Days Past Ovulation; number of days from your post-ovulatory temperature rise. (Example: 1DPO is the day after your ovulation)
•Endo: endometriosis (can be a fertility problem)
•EDC and EDD: estimated date of confinement (antiquated, but still used by physicians) and estimated date of delivery
•EPT: a brand of pregnancy test, or, generic for "early pregnancy test"
•EW or EWCM: egg white cervical mucus; the most fertile quality CM; it is slippery, clear and stretchy, like egg whites; also EWCF
•FAM: Fertility Awareness Method; the method of fertility and/or birth control that correlates the physical changes you experience during your cycle to predict when you are most fertile
•FF: Fertility Friend, an online (free, for basic services) fertility charting site (website); (could also be formula feeding; check context)
•FM: fertility monitor
•FMU: first morning urine
•FP: follicular phase; the phase before ovulation, where the egg matures in the ovaries
•FRED: First Response Early Detection (pregnancy test)
•HCG: human chorionic gonadotropin; the hormone that is present during pregnancy and what the HPT's and blood test measure to determine if you are pregnant
•HTH: "hope that helps"
•HPT: home pregnancy test; a urine pregnancy test you can take at home
•IMHO: "in my humble opinion"
•IMO: "in my opinion"
•IUI: intra-uterine insemination
•IVF: in vitro fertilization
•KU: knocked up
•LH: leutenizing hormone; the LH surge is what is measured by the OPKs; this hormone signals the egg to burst from the ovary
•LP: luteal phase; the phase of your cycle that begins just after ovulation and continues for 10-18 days, ending with the start of your next period; during the LP, your body continues to build up the lining of your uterus, and produce hormones which would support a pregnancy; this is the time when a fertilized egg can implant into the uterine lining
•NFP: Natural Family Planning; similar to FAM, but with abstinence during the fertile period
•O, Oing, Oed: ovulation, ovulating, or ovulated
•OPK: ovulation predictor kit; tests for presence of LH surge that usually precedes ovulation by 12-48 hours; these tests are quite expensive and not always accurate (if you take medication or depending on your age); these are optional when charting with FF, but if your fertility data is not clear it can bring more light and help interpret difficult cases
•OS: Ovusoft; charting software based on TCOYF
•PCOS: polycystic ovarian syndrome (a fertility problem)
•PG: pregnant
•PIAC: pee in a cup
•POAS: pee on a stick
•RE: reproductive endocrinologist
•SA: semen analysis
•SH: "sweet husband"
•SO: "significant other"
•SYS, SYL : See ya soon! or See ya later!
•TCOYF: Taking Charge Of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler; a book and website about charting and fertility.
•TMI: "too much information" - There is no such thing when TTC!
•TTA: "trying to avoid"
•TTC: "trying to conceive"
•TTFN: "ta-ta for now"
•TTYL, TTYS: "talk to you later" or "talk to you soon"

Charting is Knowledge
10-14-2005, 09:59 AM
Resources borrowed from Still At It:

Abbreviations and acronyms
List of TTC & IF acronyms written out (http://womens-place.com/ttc/ttcacronyms.php)

HPT Sensitivity Comparison Charts
Fertility Plus (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hpt.html)
Pee On A Stick (http://www.peeonastick.com/hpts.html)
Mama's Ark (http://www.mamasark.com/hpt.htm)
Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com/pregnancy-test-sensitivity.html)
Remember, the hCG starts at 1 at implantation and increases as time goes on, so the smaller amount of hCG it measures, the more sensitive the test is!

Books
Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler, MPH (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060937645/qid=1041654042/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

The Fertility Sourcebook by M. Sara Rosenthal, PHD (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0737303808/qid=1042220393/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)

Inconceivable by Ben Elton (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385334656/qid=1041659461/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)
The movie "Maybe Baby" (below) is based on this book

Inconceivable: A Woman's Triumph Over Despair and Statistics
by Julia Indichova (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0767908201/qid=1059292613/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

The Infertility Diet: Get Pregnant & Prevent Miscarriage by Fern Reiss (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1893290395/qid=1059292976/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

Conquering Infertility: Dr. Domar's Mind/Body Guide to Enhancing
Fertility & Coping with Infertility by Alice Domar, Phd (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0670031550/qid=1059293116/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/103-2812959-1358247)


Girlfriend to Girlfriend: A Fertility Companion by Kristen Magnacca (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1588202135/qid=1082306449/sr=8-2/ref=pd_ka_2/104-9895052-8814318?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

Movies
Maybe Baby (2001) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000062XKW/qid=1041654127/sr=8-4/ref=sr_8_4/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=video&n=507846)

She's Having A Baby (1988) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6300988996/qid%3D1041654195/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-0287896-1655948)

Websites (by subject)

Charting
Ovusoft aka TCOYF (http://www.ovusoft.com/)
The site for Toni Weschler's book which includes message boards, chat and cycle galleries which are very helpful.

Fertility Friend (www.fertilityfriend.com)
A free charting site which includes a lot of information and cycle galleries.

Local Support
RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/chapters/resolvenearyou.jsp?name=chapters)
Nation-wide referrals to local support groups and therapists.

The American Infertility Association (http://www.americaninfertility.org)
Lots of information and support, including message boards and chat rooms.

Financial Concerns
ARC: Advanced Reproductive Care (http://www.arcfertility.com/)
information on financing infertility treatments

Family Fee Plan (http://www.amerifee.com/fertility-financing/index.asp)
information on financing infertility treatments

State Insurance Requirements (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/advocacy/insurance/index.jsp?name=advocacy&tag=insurance)
Links from the Resolve site about insurance & laws.

Inciid's Insurance pages (http://www.inciid.org/index.php)
Click through menu on right for more financial topics and the insurance forum.

General TTC
Trying To Conceive.com (http://www.tryingtoconceive.com/)
All things TTC! Lots of info as well as a place to buy herbal therapies for
conceiving.

Baby Med (http://www.babymed.com/)
Tons of information. Everything from Chinese gender charts to an FAQ section on pretty much any TTC question you could have.

Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com)
Baby makin' supplies!

OBGYN.net (http://www.obgyn.net/)
Lots of general info on women's health. They also have doctors on line who
answer questions.

Infertility Sites
INCIID (http://www.inciid.org/)
Pronounced "inside". (The International Council on Infertility Information Dissemination)
Excellent national resource.

Resolve (http://www.resolve.org)
Wonderful site with lots of infertility information and support.

I dream of baby (http://www.idreamofbaby.com/fertility.php)
Learn the basics of fertility issues here. This site also has a great message
board community!

Fertility Plus.org’s list of female hormone levels (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hormonelevels.html#female)
Starting your fertility work-up? Check out this site to see a list of the
commonly tested female hormone levels, the function of each hormone, and the normal levels of each hormone.

Shared Journey (http://www.sharedjourney.com)
Shared Journey is dedicated to providing quality information on topics such as
infertility, miscarriage, surrogacy, pregnancy after infertility, living
child-free, and adoption. Our information is supplied by well noted Reproductive
Endocrinologist's, Psychologists, Adoption professionals and links through
various sites.

FertileHeart (http://www.fertileheart.com)
A community of people exploring holistic approaches to fertility. A site by
author Julia Indichova (see books above)

Specific IF Issues
Soul Cysters (http://www.soulcysters.com)
PCOS site with lots of support and info

Dr. Beer (http://www.repro-med.net)
Reproductive Immunology information, including lists of tests, pricing, local referrals

Reproductive Immunology Support (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/immunologysupport/)
Yahoo group for RI patients, tons of info and articles

Info for Family and Friends
Empty Arms (http://www.vocalicious.com/empty_arms/empty_arms_mod.html)
This is a great video so they can understand what you're going through. (And get out your kleenex!)

Charting is Knowledge
10-14-2005, 09:59 AM
http://www.baby-naturstuebchen.com/images/geddes477.jpg

POST AWAY!!

klav
10-14-2005, 10:10 AM
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO- am I first?????:eek:

Lizard
10-14-2005, 10:12 AM
You are first!!! :D

I forgot to mention in the other thread, I did confirm my O so I will be testing 10/24 through 10/30. Our timing wasn't the best... well, I guess it was good if you believe in Shettles and are trying for a girl. :) We shall see!

Edit: I was trying to figure out the reason for my delayed O, and then I remembered that I had been on call for work, and went nearly 24 hours without sleeping on Oct. 1st. That was CD 13 for me, so I betcha dollars to doughnuts that's what caused it. :( Stupid work!!!! It kinda ticks me off.

klav
10-14-2005, 11:13 AM
Posting in Orange for Halloween!! LOL:D
Lizard hope you made it !! that really stinks work messed up your cycle but it will be well worth it for a girl!! I'm bias because most all the kids in DH side are Boys, I wannna girl!!!LOL but will take what ever I get and be greatful when it happens (hopefully soon) almost a year to date of MC

nuhmah
10-14-2005, 12:14 PM
Wow! I'm actually posting in the first couple of pages! :) Temps went back up this morning, I am looking to O sometime next week, probably. DH is totally on board with really trying this cycle.

How often should we BD? Every other day, or every day? Any thoughts on this?

polkadot
10-14-2005, 12:47 PM
hi just checking in:p

Dotsie
10-14-2005, 12:49 PM
subscribing!!

Mystikal
10-14-2005, 12:54 PM
Dayum! Congrats going out to jbenny!!! Sticky vibes and I hope you have a happy and healthy nine months!!! :D
Gator you are like the fourth person to comment on my chart. I think it looks like crap, but we shall see. 10dpo and no spotting yet, which I have had for the last two charts, plus, like you said, my temp went up. I'm going to pick up some equates at wal-mart tonight and we will see what happens. (I'm going to try and hold off on testing till Sunday or Monday. I have to work tomorrow so it shouldn't be too hard then...

jnshanna
10-14-2005, 01:10 PM
Thanks for the new thread, love the title. ;)

AF is finally gone so I'm just waiting for the egg. I'll be on a business trip next week so I'm hoping O will wait until then. I plan to start OPK's on 10/21 when I get back and start BDing every other day. We've been BDing every day in previous cycles so I figured we'd try something new.

Question about temping: I'll be in a different time zone next week and it's a pretty important time to get accurate temps. Has anyone had to adjust their temps like this before? I'll have to take out TCOYF when I get home and see what the instructions are. I really don't want my chart to be ruined because of the time change. I'll be on Eastern time instead of Western time. Hopefully there is a formula or something. Or maybe I don't need to worry about it? I plan to still wake up at the same local time there that I would if I was at home so there would be a 3 hour difference.

marteneym
10-14-2005, 01:29 PM
WOW, I have been gone so long and you girls move so fast, you have gone through 2threads. I guess that means CONGRATS are in order to the TONS of BFP's this month. Wow, What amonth. Sorry I can't do anymore SO's.

Mystikal That looks like a great implant dip to me. Good luck testing.

Since I have been here we have had our 1yr TTC anniversary and am finishing cycle one on chlomid. I had a Progesterone lab of 17.6 Tuesday. That verified that I o'ed.:D I am thinking cd28 although FF keeps telling me cd26. I think that jump was just from the Provera I started taking to bring on AF. We were ready to move on to another chlomid cycle when I got tons of EWCM. Of course I jumped all over DH and I will be testing Sunday 10/16. Hope I can join the list of BFP's.

Have a great weekend.

MichelleRenee
10-14-2005, 01:41 PM
Hi everyone. Congrats to all the BFP's!!

My temp was still high this morning. I had a dr's appointment today to talk about everything and here's a recap:

I am fine to be TTC. The meds I am on are completely safe.

The drowsiness (all the time!) is a bit of a mystery. I am on a med that can cause insomnia and drowsiness, so she suggested I start taking it at night so I can stay awake during the day.

My thyroid is comletely normal. I just have a naturally low body temp and have nothing to worry about.

So I'm glad everything is OK in general, but I have been stressing myself about work and school too much and as a result I am sick. Technically I don't have a fever, but as you can see on my chart my temps for the last two days were very high. I will just leave the temps on my chart and keep going this month. Hopefully by tomorrow i will be feeling better. AF has been gone for two days now and TTC or not, and I am anxious to BD with my hubby.:D

Lizard
10-14-2005, 02:11 PM
MichelleRenee - Stupid question, but... have you taken a PG test, or did the doctor give you one? I know you just got over AF, but I noticed it was short and crazier things have happened. And, with all the BABY DUST CIDER that everyone seems to be drinking, who knows... LOL. :)

Mystikal - I think your chart looks great. Looks very stair-steppy to me with a possible implant dip. Crossing my fingers for you!!!

jnshanna - I can't remember if TCOYF talks about time zone changes or not. I'd assume that nothing would change... if you take your temp at 6 AM here and 6 AM there, it should be the same. I'd think any sleep changes due to the time zone difference would be the bigger thing to worry about. I swear, even if I change 1 time zone, my sleep is all out of whack. :)

As for me, we're heading out of town this weekend to visit DH's folks. His mom's been going through some health issues and just had her second back surgery in 3 months. She's also lost her job because she's been out of work on medical leave for so long. DH is getting worried about her... last week he dropped a bombshell on me, and asked what I'd think about moving up closer to them. That really surprised me, as we'd talked about that a couple years ago when we bought our house, and decided not to. Looks like we'll be revisiting that idea again. It's a good idea, I'm not against it, but it'd be a big change and a lot of work. We'll have to see what happens.

Have a great weekend ladies!! Hope to see more good news when I return!!

cat_loverpq
10-14-2005, 02:39 PM
Checking in...

CONGRATS jbenny!

ABirney
10-14-2005, 05:07 PM
Hey ladies! Just checking in... thanks for the new thread!
Congrats jbenny!!!! H&H 9 months!
Ok for a brief second today I thought I may have O'd... this morning my temp was between creamy and EW.. my CP was high I could hardly reach it.. then later today I was dry and CP low and firm.... but now it's just kinda medium again. Also for the past few days I've been getting little twinges like I'm about to get AF.... went to the bathroom to check it out a few times and nothing! Grr! I wish I knew what was going on. Or at least that AF will just show up already so I can call it annov and start over.

Soulmate
10-14-2005, 05:07 PM
Scribin'...prolly be back tomorrow to reply :D

Hula1974
10-14-2005, 05:52 PM
Congrats JBENNY!!

MichelleRenee
10-14-2005, 06:16 PM
Hi, Lizard. Yes, I have taken one. I took it the other night after reading about how many people had periods while pregnant. I knew it would be negative, but I thought I should give it a shot, just in case. Thanks for asking though.

Wrighty26
10-14-2005, 06:22 PM
Congrats jbenny!

I must admit, I'm getting a little jealous of all of these BFPs :) but still happy for all of you ;)

Mystikal
10-14-2005, 06:35 PM
Okay, you all have to stop being so positive. I've been doing good about not getting my hopes up and now I'm getting excited. STOP IT!!!! ;):p Thanks, though. I hope you're all right.

jbenny75
10-14-2005, 06:36 PM
Thanks so much everyone for the sticky vibes and well wishes!

Let the orange ~~~babydust~~~fly!!

Good luck everyone:)

Ilovemygeek
10-14-2005, 11:22 PM
Rolling in the fresh babydust!

I am having a strange CM pattern this cycle. Lots of EWCM (not seminal fluid) for just a day and it goes away. I think I am O'ing today, but we cannot BD because DH had his wisdom teeth out and he is still pretty doped up. Oh well, maybe he will be feeling better tomorrow.

Congrats on all the BFPs!

Mystikal
10-15-2005, 03:47 AM
Temp stayed stable this am, and still no spotting. (Knock on wood.) I hope this is a good sign. I'll probably test tomorrow if my temp stays up. My dad's birthday is next week and I will be out of town so if I do get a BFP I'd love to tell my parents now instead of having to wait two weeks! :p

Dotsie
10-15-2005, 04:01 AM
My temp went up again. I have no clue what's going on. I def don't think I o'd yet because I still have tons of ewcm.

MichelleRenee
10-15-2005, 04:56 AM
Fingers crossed for you, Mystikal!

katmg
10-15-2005, 06:03 AM
Pretty sure I O'd. I had a temp jump this morning from 97.1 to 97.7. I'll wait a couple more days to call it since I seem to be so good at prematurely calling an O and then missing it! :rolleyes:

jodylovesscotty
10-15-2005, 06:05 AM
Just checkin' in.

I don't know what is going on with my cycle this month. I have taken OPK's and haven't gotten any positives although I had my day of EWCM. I don't know if my urine was too watered down or that I really haven't Oed yet. For 10 months I have never not Oed. Also my temps are staying real low. I thought maybe my therm. was broke but I tried it during the day and it was different. So I don't know. We are just going to continue to BD every other day. I have an appointment scheduled for Dec. I hate this:mad:

jesseybell
10-15-2005, 08:22 AM
I am crossing my fingers that I actually Oed this month. 3 months off BCP and this is the first month that I THINK I did. I am still new to charting and we didn't BD on O day, so we'll just have to wait and see.It's just nice to see x-hairs on FF.

I bought a BBT thermometer the other day and it's temp is almost .3 higher than my digital so I am going to start using it for next cycle.

jodylovesscotty
10-15-2005, 10:01 AM
I finally got a positive OPK:D

ABirney
10-15-2005, 10:56 AM
Hey ladies! Hope you are all having a great weekend!
Gardenia, Mystikal, and Marteneym NIce looking charts! Hope to see some BFP's soon!
MichelleRenee Glad things went well at the Dr! Hope you feel better soon too!
Jesseybell Yay for O'ing!
katmg looks good for O so far, see what the next couple temps do.
Ilovemygeek Ouch for your DH! Hope he's feeling better soon so you can catch that eggie!
jodylovesscotty YAY for the positive OPK! Get busy and catch that egg too!
Sorry for anyone I missed!
No news here in the TTC world... however, we did buy a house today!! Well ok we settled on the price, we won't actually close until next month but I'm so excited! Maybe that's what was stressing me out so maybe now I'll O... hopefully....

Dotsie
10-15-2005, 10:57 AM
JodyMe too!!! I am so excited. I guess that means that I didn't O after all (which I didn't think I did anyway).
Fingers crossed for you Mystikal
GardeniaDon't be too bummed. It's still early so you still have a shot :)

Soulmate
10-15-2005, 12:31 PM
MichelleRenee I'm so glad that everything turned out ok and that you are totally healthy!

Dotsie and Jody Congrats on your +OPKs...just in time for the weekend! I'm sure you'll be having tons of fun!

Gardenia You chart looks great...it is very rare to get a +HPT at your point in your cycle...this is the torturous part of the cycle ;)

Mystikal Keeping my fingers crossed for you!

Lizard Uhhh...our charts are uncannily similar! I was chart surfing and it is freaky. Even the random spike at CD19. We are truly chart twins :D

Soulmate
10-15-2005, 04:54 PM
Ok...so I am bored out of my mind and way back I mentioned that I've seen some really wacky charts that surprise the heck out of me? I think this one is the wackiest out there...

http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/ChartGalleryCache/chart37930.png

klav
10-15-2005, 05:14 PM
soulmate That is truly a weird chart!!


I posted this in another thread but thought I'd try here...
but last night and a bit this am I had some mild discomfort in my lower ab on the right side.
and I took another OPK and not much of a line compaired to yesterday . Yesterday there was a definate line but not darker or as dark as the control line. so today's was very faint and I think I'm O'ing today or tomorrow??? think more today so Bding tonight and tomorrow just incase!!

nuhmah
10-15-2005, 07:12 PM
Took my first OPK today, and it came out positive. Woohoo!

So, now what? When should I actually be ovulating, and how often should we BD now that I have a +OPK?

Sorry for the weird questions, but I just want to make sure my timing is correct.

Dotsie
10-15-2005, 07:46 PM
yay for + opk's. From what the box says, ovulation should occur 24-36 hours from a +. We have timed it for every other day. We started on Thursday, Saturday, and Monday and maybe Wednesday. If your DH has no known sperm issues than bd'ing every day should be no problem.

Mystikal
10-16-2005, 03:18 AM
So, what do y'all think of this ticker?

http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/d/1;20719;117/st/20060627/k/e5da/preg.png
(http://www.TickerFactory.com/)
:D:D:D
The line was veeeerrrrrrry faint, but it is there. My EDD is June 27 (five days after our anniversary and a day before my birthday.) I can't believe it. I'm so happy, I'm so scared. My dad's birthday is next Sunday but I'll be in Florida for work training so I was hoping to get a BFP today so that I can tell him now, otherwise I'd have to wait two whole weeks. :D

MichelleRenee
10-16-2005, 04:50 AM
RACHEL!!!

Congrats!!!!!! I am so happy for you!

I was just coming to say that my temps are back down to normal.... but boy does my chart look funny!

Mystikal
10-16-2005, 04:51 AM
FINALLY someone is online!!! I've been waiting for someone to get online for the last two and a half hours!!!! :D Thank you!!!!!!! :D

MichelleRenee
10-16-2005, 04:52 AM
You're welcome!:D :D :D

flygirl
10-16-2005, 05:08 AM
Congratulations, Mystical!!!!!

My heart totally skipped a beat when I saw your family post in pg :D. I clicked over here knowing there'd be an announcement. So awesome!!!!!!!!!

Hula1974
10-16-2005, 05:11 AM
I did the same thing!!! Congrats Rachel! And what great timing for you. Good luck telling the family, I'm sure they will all be thrilled!

Congratulations, Mystical!!!!!

My heart totally skipped a beat when I saw your family post in pg :D. I clicked over here knowing there'd be an announcement. So awesome!!!!!!!!!

Mystikal
10-16-2005, 05:15 AM
Thank you, guys!! :D I'm so thrilled. (DH says he is, but he's still in bed sleeping...I don't understand how he can sleep at a time like this! ;) He says that's how he celebrates. lol.)

gator97
10-16-2005, 05:17 AM
Congratulations, Mystikal! I knew that was an awfully pretty chart!! Yeah!

Dotsie
10-16-2005, 05:26 AM
COngrats MystikalHere's to a H&H 9 months :D June 27th is a great day. That's my DS's bday. :)

Wrighty26
10-16-2005, 06:37 AM
Congrats Mystikal!!! :D

ds2003
10-16-2005, 06:43 AM
Congratulations, Mystical!!!!!

Soulmate
10-16-2005, 07:59 AM
Woooo Hoooo Mystikal!! I too saw your post in the pregnancy board and my heart started racing! I am soooo excited for you! All that waiting and stress seems to just disappear once you see that BFP doesn't it? Sending you sticky vibes.

nuhmah Ditto what Dotsie said. I would BD everyday to make sure you catch the egg.

klav I hope you catch that eggie!

ETA: Considering we are tied for our most successful month...this month is totally going to break records. There is at least one other very promising chart out there ;)

ETA again: Back in the WC thread the record was 17 back in 8/04. Let's see if we can break that one! The next highest was 14 in 8/03.

polkadot
10-16-2005, 08:17 AM
Congrats mystikal....soooo happy for you.....H&H 9 months to you!!!:D :D

nuhmah
10-16-2005, 08:40 AM
Mystikal - congratulations!! H&H 9 months to you!

ABirney
10-16-2005, 09:15 AM
Congrats Mystikal!!!!! H&H 9 months!

t3h_wookiee
10-16-2005, 09:38 AM
I'm just going to follow you around here girl, but CONGRATS RACHEL!!! :D

kmmommy
10-16-2005, 10:14 AM
Congrats Mystikal! So happy for you! Can't wait to see you in June Mommies!

uskiku
10-16-2005, 10:55 AM
A former member of this thread hijacking for a moment to say

Congratulations to Mystikal, amurphy and all the others who got BFPs -- I'm sooo excited for you all!!!

sprinkling a little bit of babydust!

uskiku

shouldaeloped
10-16-2005, 11:38 AM
Congratulations Mystikal!

Happy & healthy nine months to you!

klav
10-16-2005, 02:32 PM
Gardenia I was calling the one OPK I took on Friday a posative because it was the darkest lie I got. It was not darker than the control line but the day before and the day after the line was extreemly faint or non existant? sooo... Hoping that I'm right
Thanks:confused: :rolleyes:

UTChick
10-16-2005, 03:19 PM
Wow!! I went out of town for a couple of days and came back to even more BFPs!! Congrats!!!:D

gator97
10-16-2005, 04:02 PM
Gardenia. . . I was just chart stalking and noticing how pretty your chart was. . . and then I see you teeny tiny post. . .hoping we hear some POSITIVE news very soon!

polkadot
10-16-2005, 05:31 PM
Gardenia....i was chart stalking too and your chart is looking goooood:D

gator97
10-16-2005, 05:33 PM
Only 5 DPO. Have I mentioned how much I hate the 2WW?

Dotsie
10-16-2005, 05:36 PM
Gardenia Your chart does look really good. A line is a line, no matter how light :D
Gator At least you're in the 2ww. I'm still trying to figure out what the heck is going on with my body. I think I will O tomorrow. If that's the case, our timing was very good this month. I had a + opk yesterday and today.
Good Luck to everyone. Keeping my fingers crossed for us all!!

nuhmah
10-16-2005, 06:02 PM
Now I know why people get so frustrated with these darn OPK's! I never understood the "is it really a line" thing until now. :rolleyes:

Yesterday I did an OPK, and the test line came out darker than the control line - but both were there, and I called it a +OPK. Today, I took another one, and the control line was almost invisible, and I could really see the test line. I took another one and the same thing happened.

What gives?!?! Klav - hope your OPK experience is getting better! :)

Gardenia - I hope its not too soon to offer you my congrats - I agree that your chart looks fabulous!

polkadot
10-16-2005, 06:17 PM
nuhmah- i agree w/ you on the OPK's being sooo confusing but i posted the ? on Ff and they said that is doesnt matter about the darkness but if they both look relatively the same its a +. I kept getting two lines but they were both the same color or no line at all....so i called the same color lines +. I hope that explanation isnt confusing....and i hope it works out for you....:D


CD 11..just got some EWCM...kinda confused...its way too early for me to O, but i may take an OPK tomorrow ...and i am gonna BD the night away...just incase!:D

Dotsie
10-16-2005, 06:31 PM
For those of you who are confused with the opk's try using clear blue easy digital. You get a happy face :) if you have an LH surge. It completely takes the guessing out. I love them.

I started getting ewcm about 4 days ago and I'm on cd13. I was really confused as well. Get your BD on polkadot ;)

My dh took our ds to the inlaws for the night. We already bd'd but I think we might again just for the heck of it. It can't hurt, right?!?

Wrighty26
10-16-2005, 06:32 PM
nuhmah - OPKs indicate the amount of LH in your system. When your LH surges your body is preparing to ovulate. It usually isn't until after the surge that you ovulate-- so it is not uncommon for you to get a positive OPK one day, a negative OPK the next, and then ovulate the day after that. Everyone's LH is different though-- it's not textbook, so if you do get a positive OPK-- regardless if you get a negative one the next day-- get busy!!!

Hope this clarifies things :)

flygirl
10-16-2005, 08:32 PM
Grrrr... I just lost my whole post :mad:

gist:

polka, compared to other charts, this isn't too early to get EWCM. You're CD11, & the other days you started were CD12 & CD13. Whatever you're doing to help your CM is working! Check ff's OPK Optimizer (under Analysis), which will give you a good idea when to start them.

nuhmah, your experience is totally normal, especially if you're using CBE. There's some gossip that CBE is using the same sticks for OPKs as for their monitor, which means the "control" line actually detects estrogen, and therefore because extremely faint *just* before O.

Good luck, Dotsie!

gator, you are officially not allowed to complain about the 2ww until you're in your second week. :p ;)

I really want to say Congratulations, gardinia!. But I won't...yet. I have to say, that's one of the most text-book charts I've seen. And besides, it's October; it's expected :D.

Hula1974
10-17-2005, 03:02 AM
Good Morning ladies.

Mod - can you change my status to "I think I O'd. Testing Oct 26-31" Thank you.

klav
10-17-2005, 05:36 AM
Threadmistress please move me to think I O'd testing November1

Not that my chart say's that but I think I did considering the mild "cramping" on Friday night and Sat Am.
Sooooooo

amurphy
10-17-2005, 06:04 AM
Congratulations, mystical and Gardenia!!!

Looks like there is a lot of Oing going on around here, which means the next two weeks are sure to be exciting! Good luck, everyone! :D

*~*~*~*~Babydust*~*~*~*~

mkvh
10-17-2005, 06:09 AM
Good morning ladies!!! I'm back from my world travels, and I must say that I really missed all of you and all of the action around here.

First things first....

CONGRATULATIONS!!!!

MYSTIKAL!!!!!!

I'm sooo excited for you...


And Congrats to Gardenia!

This month truly has been amazing. If I would hurry up and O already I could join all of you!

No shout outs, but a definite congrats to ABirney on landing a house. Yay!
______________________
Me? CD12, been having EWCM since CD 8 :confused: . But neg OPKs thus far. LOTS of EW yesterday but a low temp this a.m., so OPKing again today. I'm sure I'll be joining in on the overanalysis of OPKs going on :rolleyes: !

Lizard
10-17-2005, 06:29 AM
Congrats Mystikal!!!! :D :D :D

Soulmate - That is so weird about our charts!

We got back from our trip OK. I've been feeling sick/nauseous today, and almost stayed home from work because of it. I'm thinking it's because of being around my MIL who is a chain smoker. I always seem to get sick the day after I come home from their house.

I also had itchy bbs yesterday. Because of the combo of that and the nausea, DH is 100% convinced I'm pregnant. Seeing as it's only 6 DPO, I beg to differ, but who knows. :rolleyes:

Will update our list later, I'm hoping for good news from Gardenia first. :)

gymwidow
10-17-2005, 06:30 AM
CONGRATULATIONS shouldaeloped, bunnybeth, jbenny, & mystikal!!! :D

I think that's everyone I missed while I went MIA. Last week was so busy at work, I just never had time to check in, and this weekend was hectic as well. My apologies for not being here to share in the excitement, and in everything else. I'll be better about visiting now!

So, 2 days after the HSG I woke up to lots of bleeding, again. :( I called the doc, 'cause this was more than just spotting, and she said not to worry, that we know I have a sensitive cervix and it was probably just due to the trauma that the HSG put my insides through. She said it should taper off after a few days. Three days later, it's still going on. :confused: I'm not sure if it's still because of the HSG or if it's just my body's normal constant bleeding. I'm going to see what happens in the next couple of days and if it's still going on by Wednesday (one week since the HSG), I'm going to call her again.

Still no Clomid - first DH has to do his SA. We're getting the paperwork for that today and will hopefully get that done in the next couple of days.

In the meantime, today is CD15 and even though I don't have a lot of hopes for Oing on my own, we're still going to BD every other day starting this past weekend and see if my body can do what it's supposed to do! So, fingers crossed and lots of positive thoughts!

Have a great Monday, ladies. :)

cat_loverpq
10-17-2005, 06:44 AM
CONGRATS Mystikal!! Best wishes for the next 9 months!

katmg
10-17-2005, 06:50 AM
Congratulations Mystical! Happy and Healthy 9 months!

Boy, that June thread is going to be one hopping place with all these BFPs!!

Dotsie
10-17-2005, 07:36 AM
Threadmistress can you please move me to "I think I O'd. I will be testing on NOvember 1st.
I got a - opk today after 2 days of + opk's. My cm had dried up completely as well. We bd'd on Thursday night and early yesterday morning. My chances are considered "good" by FF standards. I don't think so. I am so discouraged this month :(

Good Luck to all the testers and congrats to all the BFPS!!!

jodylovesscotty
10-17-2005, 09:00 AM
Quick Question: Once your temp goes up is it too late? Does that mean you Oed and BD will do no good?

Dotsie
10-17-2005, 09:07 AM
My temp went up today but I plan on bd'ing just in case. I think once your temp goes up it means you have already ovulated, therefore probably too late.

Charting is Knowledge
10-17-2005, 09:09 AM
*** Updated to here!! ***

mkvh
10-17-2005, 09:10 AM
jody: everything I've read says that the temp rise indicates that O already has happened. HOWEVER...the rule is to BD until you see THREE high temps to be sure. And you DO have one earlier temp that's as high as todays. So actually you could be seeing early effects of the ovulation-related hormones and actually are Oing today. And the real temp rise would be TOMORROW.... And your usual CL is above today's temp... Time only will tell!

Bottom line? If I were you, I'd BD tonight!

Wrighty26
10-17-2005, 09:59 AM
So FF called O-- but I still have EWCM....craziness? I really don't think I've ovulated... :confused: Guess we'll be BDing again tonight :)

jesseybell
10-17-2005, 10:42 AM
Can you put me in 'Waiting to test 10/24-10/30' FF tells me to test on 10/31 but that's way too long for me to wait! Thanks

nuhmah
10-17-2005, 11:01 AM
Thanks for all the feedback about my OPK. I saw a temp dip this morning, and I am having some slight pains in my lower abdomen - feels like I might be O'ing. We BD'ed two nights ago, so we need to get going on this tonight, too!

Lizard
10-17-2005, 11:03 AM
Had lunch with my best friend today.... she's pregnant again. Well, she doesn't think she is, but she's gotten BFP's on 2 tests! The only reason she doesn't think she's pregnant is because she doesn't "feel" pregnant.

This is her 2nd and it only took her a month to conceive. I'm very happy for her, as she wanted 2 kids and will be able to leave work to be a SAHM. I'm just sad for myself, I guess. When we first started TTC, my friend and I talked about it and we both joked that I'd be pregnant WELL before she'd be trying for her 2nd.... that she couldn't even fathom having another kid anytime soon. So it's weird to be at this point where she's expecting another and we're still waiting on our 1st. Bleh.

mkvh
10-17-2005, 11:21 AM
Lizard--sorry for the bleh...I can understand why you feel the way you do. {{{HUGS!}}}

nuhmh---BD! BD!! BD!!!

jesseybell--patience is only a virtue for those NOT TTC!

Wrighty--didn't look at your chart, but it is *possible* to have EWCM after O (although not 3 days after)...curious to see what your temp does in the next couple of days.

OK...think I'm caught up...now for a question of sorts: I just got back from lunch where I took TWO kinds of OPKs. Both were obviously negative. Sooo...conundrum...I had the most RIDICULOUS amount of EWCM!!! Officially, I think my pee doesn't work on OPKs! Thoughts?

klav
10-17-2005, 11:51 AM
mkvhI think my pee doesn't work on OPKs! LOL thought it was funnny!! I totally understand what you mean.

polkadot
10-17-2005, 03:02 PM
Gardenia- Its not over till she shows...dont coutn yourself out just yet....crossing crossables for you:)

mkvh- I think my pee doesn't work on OPKs!
i hear ya i was beginnign to think that last month too.,..but i finally got a positive OPK and i used $tree OPK's too...good luck...

lizard--hugs to you. I understand the Blah...completley;)

nuhmah &Wrighty- go get your BD on:D

ME- had weird EW yesterday and then we BD just in case...expected some today but its sticky...i took an OPK just in case but it was - so oh well...nothign to worry about....but i am feeling a slight twinge on my left side....HMMMMM

mrstim
10-17-2005, 05:00 PM
Hi to all!

I'm actually just a lurker here - I LoVe!! Seeing all the BFP's and come each day to check if anyone else has gotten lucky!

Here's my question: We will begin TTC in December. I would love to go off my BCP now so that I could get the hormones out of my system before TTC'ing. Where are the best resources to learn more about charting - I think I understand the basics, but could ya'll point me to the best place to purchase supplies. I'm planning on picking up TCOYF in the next day or so. Oh - I'm on CD2.

Thanks!
Amy

Sabriel
10-17-2005, 05:05 PM
If you are not TTC until December, I would recommend checking out the Charting to Avoid (http://www.constantchatter.com/showthread.php?t=146) thread. The ladies there are very knowledgable about charting. You should also read Taking Charge of Your Fertility. Good luck!

mrstim
10-17-2005, 05:07 PM
Ok :) Thanks for your help - I've never been over there before, so I guess now is time!

Sabriel
10-17-2005, 05:19 PM
mrsstim The ladies are great over there. They and TCOYF taught me everything I know. :)


Well ladies, you know I love you all very much, but I definitely didn't want to be back here back so soon. I am so sad to tell you that I miscarried over the weekend. :( DH and I have discussed this a lot and we have decided to TTC as soon as we get the green light. For now, I'd like to hang around and watch the BFPs keep coming!

Threadmistress, could you please add me to the temporarily TTA section? Thanks! Here are my stats again:

WC Name: Sabriel
Me: C, 24
DH: J, 23
Married since: May 22, 2005
Off BCP since: Never on BCP
TTC since: August 2, 2005
Charting since: May 8, 2004
Known issues/test results: m/c on October 15, 2005 @ 6 weeks 4 days
Chart: http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c
Current status: temporarily TTA

Hiker04
10-17-2005, 05:42 PM
Hi Ladies,
I'm just starting my 5th cycle TTC and want to join the group! I followed this thread last month, but need to get caught up on the last couple weeks.

Threadmistress, can you please add my stats:
Me: C, 26
DH: K, 37
Married since: 9-4-2004
Off BCP since: 5-2004
TTC since: 6-2005
Charting since: 6-2005
Known issues/test results: m/c Aug 4, 2005
Chart: http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e86f8
Current status: watiting to O, cd2

ABirney
10-17-2005, 05:58 PM
Just checking in...
sabriel so sorry to hear about your m/c. (HUGS)
Hiker04 welcome!
gardenia crossing all crossables!
Quick question for you guys... just double checking my interp... on internal CM if it's slippery/a little stretchy just for a couple seconds and then goes away it's actually just normal internal moisture,and you're considered dry, right? EW would stick around? Just making sure... but yet my CP is still medium, temp is still lowish... darn confusing cycle!

UTChick
10-17-2005, 06:13 PM
Sabriel~I am so sorry to hear of your loss.

Hiker04~Welcome!

I have missed so much, so good luck to those testing and happy BDing to those Oing!

Still the boring time for me...CD10 (I think).

Hula1974
10-17-2005, 06:14 PM
Threadmistress can you please move me to "I think I O'd. I will be testing on NOvember 1st.
I got a - opk today after 2 days of + opk's. My cm had dried up completely as well. We bd'd on Thursday night and early yesterday morning. My chances are considered "good" by FF standards. I don't think so. I am so discouraged this month :(

Good Luck to all the testers and congrats to all the BFPS!!!

I've been charting for 9 months but just recently I signed up for the VIP membership on FF (because we started TTC). What are your experiences with these rankings they give you? It marked me as "good" also, and I thought we did pretty good! Man, what do you have to do to be "great" :(

Good to see there are a few of us testing around the same time!!

Soulmate
10-17-2005, 06:18 PM
Sabriel How heartbreaking :( I'm so sorry that you are back here :(:( Just sending you hugs.

Welcome to the group Hiker! I hope your stay is short and sweet.

Congrats on popping that egg jesseybell, klav, Dotsie, and Hula! Maybe you guys will be next in line to graduate!

ABirney If it evaporates quickly then it is normal moisture.

Gardenia You are still very early in your cycle. I know it is torture seeing the "maybes". Still crossing everything for you. BTW Equates are amazing...I would stick with those. I call them the "beta tests" because they pick up ridiculously low levels of HCG it is almost like getting a beta. Plus they are very reliable. To fuel your obsession I highly recommend peeonastick.com (http://www.peeonastick.com/hpts.html). They have pics of various BFPs for most of the most used brands (plus reviews).

Lizard I've had similar experiences and they suck beyond belief. DH keeps telling me to stop comparing myself to other people but it is just so hard sometimes.

UTChick
10-17-2005, 06:18 PM
Hula~We BD'd 2 days in a row before O, the day of O, and the day after and got a "high" rating...and a BFN.:rolleyes:

Hula1974
10-17-2005, 06:22 PM
Sabriel - so sorry to hear your news. :(

UT Chick - Thanks. Yeah, I guess we missed a few days. :o

Wrighty26
10-17-2005, 06:25 PM
Sabriel - Sorry to hear your news :( I hope you are given the green light ASAP!

Hiker04 - Welcome! Hope you won't be with us long :D

ABirney - Ditto what Soulmate said!

Kathy - Hopefully it won't be boring for long!

Hula1974 - I have only ever gotten good-- but wondered about the "high" myself!


I sitting here waiting to seduce my hubby-- he's currently enthralled with football, baseball, and some Hercules movie on Sci-Fi Channel. I am going to play the "tired" card in a little bit so we can get in a little BDing (if I didn't already ovulate) and then head to bed.

I realized today that if I do ovulate (or did) and do get knocked up this cycle, I could be due around the same time a friend is getting married. So, if it doesn't happen this month-- then it's for a very good reason! :D

Soulmate
10-17-2005, 06:38 PM
BTW...Happy Birthday Jjsanner!! http://www.techzonez.com/forums/images/smilies/party.gif

Dotsie
10-17-2005, 06:51 PM
Sabriel I am so sorry to hear your news. {{hugs}}.
I think for FF to give you a High for bd'ing you have to bd at least 3 times during your fertile time. I know this because I played around with my chart today...I was bored ;) Our wedding anniversary is on the 27th. We'll be married 4 years. I think I will test that morning because it's our anniversary. If I don't see a + I will just wait for AF. If she's late I will test again. I really don't expect to see anything though. I just have a negative feeling about this month. Isn't that horrible? It's getting harder and harder at work too. My coworker is 4 months pg and it hurts when I hear her talking about being pg, etc. Ah well, enough of my pity party. Good luck everyone.

MichelleRenee
10-17-2005, 07:48 PM
Sabriel, I am so sorry. My thoughts are with you and your DH.

Dotsie, I know how you feel. In the past week I have been to two baby showers and I have two other friends who are pregnant. I also know that negative feeling that this just isn't your month. I hope your negative feeling is wrong! What a great anniversary gift!

t3h_wookiee
10-17-2005, 08:02 PM
I've been charting for 9 months but just recently I signed up for the VIP membership on FF (because we started TTC). What are your experiences with these rankings they give you? It marked me as "good" also, and I thought we did pretty good! Man, what do you have to do to be "great" :(

Good to see there are a few of us testing around the same time!!


You should ask MrsCantDecide about how to get a high rating! ;) Right Rachel? :D



Sabriel I'm so sorry for your loss. :(

polkadot
10-17-2005, 08:11 PM
Sabriel - ((((Hugs to you)))Sorry to hear your news I hope you are given the green light ASAP! and get a BFP soon:) YOu are in my prayers.

Hiker04 - Welocme hope your stay is short and sweet!

ABirney - wish i had words of wisdom i soemtimes still have to break out TCOYF to refresh my memory...but soulmate's probably right...;)


Hula1974 -I have never gotten a high rating either....but we are always practicing to try and achieve the **high** rating;) ;)

Dotsie- Its ok to have a little pitty party....we all understand:p

got a neg OPK earlier...so YEAH i dont have to wake up at 4:30 am to BD when B gets home....sigh...the things you do to have a baby huh?


later chickies

MichelleRenee
10-17-2005, 08:52 PM
Just giving an update:

I am almost 100% not sick anymore. I lost my voice Saturday night and it is 1/2way back. My throat is a little tickly, but not sore. Clearly, my temps are back down to normal. Today is CD10 so I got over being sick quickly enough to keep us in the game this cycle. Following my EWCM from last cycle, and not having temps, the best I can do it say I should O between CD13 and CD22. I'm 99% sure if I do O it will be closer to CD22, but to be on the safe side we'll just have to BD from now until then.;) Oh well.

I am feeling positive and excited. I can't wait to have my first full chart w/ temps. This stuff is so interesting to me (and to DH). Congrats again to all the BFP's! Good luck to everyone else!

Ilovemygeek
10-17-2005, 08:58 PM
Congratulations Mystikal! I am so excited for you! :D

Mystikal
10-18-2005, 03:42 AM
I keep coming back to check on everyone and I've pretty much been lurking the past couple days. Thanks everyone for the congrats!! :D

I got a nice dark BFP today with the e.p.t. so I'm here to spread some
*~*~*~BABY DUST~*~*~*
:D

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/raek622/100_0122.jpg

katmg
10-18-2005, 05:43 AM
**Oooh! Rolling around in the fresh baby dust!**

Okay, I'm willing to agree with FF now. Please move me to: I think I O'd, Testing October 31st.

mkvh
10-18-2005, 05:50 AM
sabriel--I am so very sorry for you and your DH. You both are in my thoughts. {{{{HUGS}}}}

hiker--welcome!

mystikal--first, yay!!! for the big +!!! And second, rolling in that dust!

klav
10-18-2005, 05:55 AM
Mystikal That is wonderful!!
rolling in babydust!!!


~~~~~~~rolling , rolling ,rolling,rolling , rolling ,rolling~~~~~~~~~

Charting is Knowledge
10-18-2005, 06:04 AM
*** Updated to Here! ***

shouldaeloped
10-18-2005, 06:42 AM
so. . . are you calling it gardenia???? it looks like a BFP to me???

Congratulations! Happy and Healthy 9 months to you!

mkvh
10-18-2005, 06:47 AM
I replied in the 2ww thread, Gardenia, but those are some beeeauuutiful +HPTs you've got there! Can't wait to hear hubby's reaction!

kmmommy
10-18-2005, 07:20 AM
Congrats Gardenia! Love the way you're telling hubby!

~*~*~*BABY DUST*~*~*~

Dotsie
10-18-2005, 07:27 AM
WOW:eek: Another BFP!! That is soooo awesome. Congrats Gardenia
Here's to a H & H 9 months :D

BRing on the baby dust!!

CTs_Punkin
10-18-2005, 07:50 AM
Congrats Gardenia!! Happy & Healthy 9 months to you!

Wow... are there even any people who aren't preggers on this thread??? I'm beginning to wonder :o (JK)

Congrats to all who are!! So how many does that make it for October? And we still have a week and a half to go!!!

Not much new here... just waiting for good CM to get going.... hoping to O before my Drs appt next Wed 26th so that my DR can atleast test to see if my hormones are alright... who knows though.

Good luck to the testers & come on eggies for those who are waiting to O!!
MMT

gymwidow
10-18-2005, 08:01 AM
We got the paperwork last night for DH's SA and scheduled it for tomorrow. He wanted to BD last night but I told him that I'd make it worth his while if he could hold off till tomorrow morning, since he has to have abstained from sex for 3 days prior to the test (and our last BD was Sat. night). He was not happy about that, but I told him it'd be worth the wait! ;) I just want to get this part over with so I can get the Clomid from the doc, and I didn't want to have to wait another 3 days to do the SA. So, we bring in the sample in at 8 am and should have the results back by the end of the day! Then I'll hopefully be going over everything with the doc right away so we can move on to the next step! I'm at CD16, so I'll ask her if we should just wait a week or so to see if I O naturally this month (hey, a girl can hope!), and if no O by next week, maybe I can take more Provera, get AF, and start fresh. I guess I'll see what she says soon!


Lizard, hugs to you. I'm happy for your friend but understand how difficult it must be for you.

Gardenia, CONGRATS AND A H&H 9 MONTHS TO YOU! :D

Amy, I think it's a good idea to go off BCP a little early. My doc recommended going off it 3 months before we started TTC. But you CAN get pg right away, so definitely check out TCOYF and also pick up some condoms or something to use in the meantime!

Sabriel, I'm so sorry! I hope you and DH are doing okay. Hugs and a sad welcome back.

Hiker04, welcome!

Dotsie, it's hard to listen to some people chatter on about being pg. I have no problem with most of my pg friends, but there's another chat group I used to belong to online that I actually stopped posting in b/c of one pg chick. For over a year she went on and on about how she was "sure" she'd never be able to get pregnant b/c she was just "positive" she had PCOS and all these other imaginary things wrong with her (yet all the doctors she kept running to kept telling her she was just fine). She went off BCP for whatever reason, wasn't even trying, didn't use any kind of BC (since she just "knew" that she wouldn't be able to get pg naturally), and BAM got pregnant her first month off of it. Now she complains all the time about how she never thought she'd get pregnant, has no money to support a baby, her DH isn't into it, etc. :mad: And I just can't stand it so much that I dropped out of the group. Sigh. I wish it were easier for all of us.

nuhmah
10-18-2005, 10:18 AM
Well, I think I am out this month... DH made plans a few days ago for us to have dinner at a friend's house last night - by the time I got there he was already drinking. :rolleyes: We were expecting to be eating around 6pm - we didn't eat until 7:30. By the time we got home we were sooo tired.

DH feels really bad - if he hadn't of been so tired/buzzed/whatever we could have BD'ed last night. My temps went down yesterday, and then back up today, so I have a feeling we missed our window of opportunity. :(

ETA: I forgot that I did have a drink last night with dinner - I read somewhere that that can affect your temps... do you think it had an affect on mine?

klav
10-18-2005, 10:33 AM
nuhmah(((HUGS))) BUT DON'T COUNT YOUR SELF OUT YET...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
GOT A CALL FROM THE NURSE....... I have to get DH to get his blood work done again and then call back on day 1 of my next cycle..... and schedule an apt. for the 3rd which is the day I'll already be therehope I can keill two birds with one stone there... so that is were I am at the moment!

Sabriel
10-18-2005, 12:41 PM
nuhmah Don't give up yet! You don't have a temp shift yet, so keep BDing!

gymwidow Sound like you have a good plan! The things we and our DHs do to have a baby. :rolleyes:

Congrats Gardenia!!! Yay! :D

Dotsie
10-18-2005, 12:45 PM
nuhmah Have you bd'd at all in the last 3-4 days? If so than you do have a shot. I was feeling the same as you yesterday. I o'd on Sunday. We bd'd on late Thursday night and then again very early Sunday morning. I was so bummed, all I kept thinking was..."great, another month down the tubes". Stay positive. You just never know.

Soulmate
10-18-2005, 03:36 PM
Gardenia Wishing you a happy and healthy 9 months with a little extra easy labor vibes thrown in there! Congratulations!

CTs_Punkin Giving you the ole' OVARY SHOUT! Come on eggie!! Let's go!! Come on eggie!! Let's go!!

gymwidow Your DH wanting nookie reminds me of my DH at Christmas time. That boy cannot wait to open a present to save his life!

nuhmah Your chart looks similar to last chart when you Oed...its hard to say for sure just yet. I would BD tonight if you can. And ditto Dotsie's question.

Wow...what a run of BFPs we've had! Well I'm the next one in line to test and I'm not going anywhere near a HPT until the weekend if I test at all. So things'll be a lot less exciting in here for a little while anyway.

Hula1974
10-18-2005, 04:34 PM
Welcome Hiker04!

Congrats Gardenia!!!!!

Wrighty26
10-18-2005, 04:40 PM
Congrats Gardenia :)

Nuhmah - I agree that if you got in any BDing in the past couple of days- you could be good-- and FF hasn't called O yet-- so get going :)

FF is still calling O-- even though my temp was below the coverline today. :confused: FF is such a tease! Oddly enough- I did have some random cramps today. They lasted for about 5 minutes and subsided. I thought stomach ache? gas? and it really wasn't any of those things-- so maybe AF is on her way (wouldn't be surprised-- if I did O last month I had about a 5-7 luteal phase)...

Soulmate-- you're going to make us wait till this weekend-- talk about tease :D Good luck to you-- your chart is looking good!

ABirney
10-18-2005, 05:22 PM
congrats Gardenia!!
Good luck soulmate your chart looks great!

MichelleRenee
10-18-2005, 05:49 PM
Good luck, soulmate!

Tonysweetie
10-18-2005, 08:14 PM
Me...still waiting adn waiting and waiting OH and yea waiting! lol. I did break down and test today to get a BFN of course, but its only 7DPO so DUH me! :rolleyes: but they were burning a hole in my cabinet I still have 1 more so I'm going to test possiably on Sunday...depends if were getting hit by a hurricane or not :eek:

Tonight I was at Tony's grandmothers house celebrating Tony' s Moms birthday and I said somethinga bout being tired and then MIL says "ARE YOU PREGNANT?!" in a very blunt surprise voice! I quickly said "NO!" and then Tony said "Mom, chill she's not pregant" :o I felt so bad for possiably lying but we both agreed we dont' want to tell anymore until it's confirmed by a dr. and were past the 12 week mark. UGH! It was a bit embarrassing since the WHOLE family was in that room and that veyr moment and everyone gave me this blank stare...note to self do not complain about pants getting small, being tired, not feeling well etc. for at least a couple months, lol

klav
10-19-2005, 04:20 AM
WHat is up with FF it still has not called my O yet???

Wrighty26
10-19-2005, 04:31 AM
WHat is up with FF it still has not called my O yet???

I think that FF is going to say that you O'd on Monday-- so it still needs one more temp to call it...

klav
10-19-2005, 05:39 AM
Well if it calls it monday I'm going to tend to disagree. considering I had that "cramping" on friday night and sat Am. that's when I think I O'd anyway.. this will be the first time I think FF is wrong... O-well on to the next step... thanks all for the help

katmg
10-19-2005, 05:41 AM
5 DPO for me...just waitin'.

Last night I had my book club - one of the girls there was telling me all about her dream that I was in and how I was pregnant, etc. Such a bummer to have to say...nope, sorry, not pregnant, but thanks for dreaming about me! ;)

klav - I think FF is waiting on calling the O from Monday as well.

Lizard
10-19-2005, 06:02 AM
Gardenia - Congratulations!!! :D :D Let me know if you want me to graduate ya.

I am feeling so nauseous today... I've been feeling this way on and off since Sunday. Plus I have sore bbs, and I don't normally get that. I don't think I'm sick because my temp isn't more elevated than normal. Is it even possible to have "real" symptoms from 5-8 DPO? That is soo early and implantation normally hasn't happened yet, so I'm assuming these are FPS for my own sanity. :)

Dotsie
10-19-2005, 06:14 AM
FF called my O day. I'm now officially 3DPO. I o'd on Sunday. Like I said previously, it gave me a "good" chance for getting pg this cycle. Question...I bd'd early on Sunday morning, could that be too late to get pg if I o'd that day? I bd'd a couple of days before that as well. I looked up charts on FF with my situation and there were some that got pg. Just grasping at straws right now.

amurphy
10-19-2005, 06:15 AM
Lizard! Sonds like symptoms to me! I think, if you are in tune with your body, that you can spot PG symptoms really early. I looked back in my notes and on 1 DPO I noted that my CM was different than normal, at 2DPO my stomach was achy, my back hurt, my bbs felt heavy, and I dreamt that I was two months pregnant. By 5DPO I felt quesy in the afternoon and my bbs were tender. Good luck, girlie! My fingers are crossed for you!!!

Good luck to soulmate, katmg, nuhmuh, and everyone else in the 2ww! Lets keep the BFPs rolling in.
:D

~*~*~*~*BABYDUST~*~*~*~*

CTs_Punkin
10-19-2005, 07:15 AM
Good luck to all the testers!!
Klav - I'm going to agree w/ Monday as an O date for you?? Hope you catch that eggy!!

soulmate Thanks for the Ovaries dance!! Hopefully that will do the trick!

Quick question - I gave blood yesterday - does anyone know if that effects ovulation? Lord knows it seems like everything else does..:D

Tonysweetie I hope that you get to prove your MIL's premonition right in a few weeks!!!

As for me... still waiting to O... sigh... CD 23...

Edited to roll in Amurphy's potent babydust!!!

jesseybell
10-19-2005, 07:21 AM
lizard- I am right there with you. My bbs haven't stopped hurting, I am so bloated and I've felt nauseous on and off since Sunday... I KNOW it is too early. But you can't help thinking, what if!

gymwidow
10-19-2005, 07:21 AM
Well, DH's sample is at the lab and being tested today. Results should be faxed to my doctor's office before five and you better believe I'll be calling and pestering them to find out! I hope we get good news b/c I know it would be such a blow to DH if it turns out his little guys aren't doing their job. I can handle having my own issues, so here's hoping I'm the only problem!

Today is CD17 and now that the SA is done we're going to start BDing every day just in case my body decides to O this month. Crossing all crossables.....


Sabriel, yup, so much work is involved sometimes!

Soulmate, lol. My DH is like that, too. Obviously. :p

Tonysweetie, ugh, how annoying. Are you guys really not going to tell anyone at all for 12 weeks? We decided we would at least tell our parents and siblings. I don't know how I could keep that from my mom for so long! I hope you don't get hit by this hurricane!!!!

katmg, I hope her dream comes true!

Lizard, here's hoping your FPS turn into RPS!

Dotsie, the egg can live for a good 24 hours and the little swimmers for more than that, so if you O'd AND BD'd on Sunday, you're good!

nuhmah
10-19-2005, 07:42 AM
ok... FF STILL has not called an O for me - I had to conduct a concert at school last night, so needless to say we did not BD last night. We did BD on Saturday (the day I had the + OPK). FF is giving me a yellow light today, so we are going to BD as soon as I get home today from school.

klav
10-19-2005, 08:21 AM
well if you all think I O'd on Monday I missed it then...:(
but I still stick with my thoughts on Sat. so hoping..plus monay is day 15 a little late for me I think to O..... humm will just have to keep my finger crossed and wait now. I also think it has to do with DH haveing the window open during the night so my temps have not been there usual?

Dotsie
10-19-2005, 08:22 AM
klav Why do you say you missed it if you o'd on Monday. In your chart it shows you bd'd on Sunday. That's awesome timing!!

flygirl
10-19-2005, 09:25 AM
CONGRATULATIONS, GARDENIA! What is UP with October?!

klav, I agree with the others that you most likely O'd on Mon, and your BD timing is perfect!

gym, *crossing* for good test results!

Jesseybell & Lizzard: How sad that we're hoping to feel unwell. Anyone not TTCing doesn't understand the masochism ;)


As for me, I'm pretty sure I O'd around the 9th. Because no matter how much you try to escape it, we just know way too much about our bodies now. And it also means I still end up testing early. Only this time...

I Got A BFP!!!!!!!!

I first tested with an Equate, and saw a faint line. But it wasn't real to me. So then I got this beauty:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5ce38b3127cce94fb2df8436e00000016103QbtWrJwxY
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5ce38b3127cce94fb2de6437000000016103QbtWrJwxY
Can't argue with that one!!

So Threadmistress, will you please move me to the graduates? :D. I'm due around July 2, so... dude, I have to see if anyone's started a July thread yet :D.

~*~*~*~*~*baby dust!!!!*~*~*~*~*~
(Wow. Did I really just write that?)

Lizard
10-19-2005, 09:32 AM
Holy crap Flygirl, congrats to you!!! :D :D :D I really hope I'm in the July thread with ya.

Mystikal, Gardenia, and Flygirl make 3 for the thread ALREADY.... I'll update and start volume 5 later today.

Wooohooo!!!!!!!!!

kmmommy
10-19-2005, 09:34 AM
Congrats Flygirl! Wish you were in June mommies but I'm so thrilled for you!

amurphy
10-19-2005, 09:36 AM
Huge Congratulations to you, Flygirl!!!! :D :D :D

klav
10-19-2005, 09:43 AM
Congratulations to you, Flygirl!!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I just assume I missed it because I thought yu needed to BD on and around that time we stopped on Sunday.....????:confused:

mkvh
10-19-2005, 09:58 AM
First of all, OMG...

CONGRATULATIONS FLYGIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am sooo sooo sooo excited for you. I had tears in my eyes reading your post! H&H 9 months to you!!

klav--I concur that you O'd on Monday. One more high time will give you CH. And I think your BD timing looks great as well!

nuhmah--I too am perplexed by your chart. But remember that a + OPK does not guarantee that you O...it just means that your body is producing LH. Which could then drop off not having reached a level high enough to release the egg. Keep BDing girl!

Yay gymwidow for getting the SA done today! Hoping and praying that the results are stellar. I totally understand what you mean about DHs not being able to deal with IF issues as well as us. My DH would be devastated as well.

jesseybell & Lizard--FPS really suck, don't they?? Here's hoping that you are just SOOO in tune with your bodies that the FPS are really RPS!!!

CTs Punkin--Sending an ovary shout your way! Go EGGY!

amurphy--rollin' in your baby dust! So excited to get to say that!!

Dotsie--Yay for a confirmed O. I would say that you definitely have a chance based on your BD timing. Fingers crossed for patience! And an anniversary BFP would be fantastic!

Tonysweetie--hey! I remember you from March '05 Brides in the 'other place'...and I've seen you around here..weren't you TTA??? ;)

Wrighty--Not sure, but maybe you O'd on CD15...is that more in line w/ what you think? You def. had fertile CM after what FF is calling O (but sometimes that happens), and I usually dip below CL somewhere around 4 DPO and bouce back up...hmmm :confused:

Soulmate--LOVIN' that slow rise you've got going on. Sending positive and patient vibes your way!!

---------------------
Me? CD 14, CM seemed to abate a bit yesterday, CP definitely is HIGH, STILL no + OPK. BDing is getting tough...we need a break! C'mon eggy!!!

Dotsie
10-19-2005, 10:01 AM
Congrats Flygirl Here's to a H&H 9 months... and thanks for the baby dust....rolling around in it....:D
klav Nope. Your timing is great. You want the spermies up there waiting for when the egg is released.

cat_loverpq
10-19-2005, 10:13 AM
Huge CONGRATULATIONS to gardenia and flygirl!!

Still waiting to O here...I went to my uncle's funeral yesterday so although I don't really feel stressed out by his passing (it was so sad, of course, but I don't think I'd call it stress), I guess it could have delayed O this month. I've had red spotting the last two days (just like all my other annov cycles), so I don't know what to think anymore. Technically we haven't been trying the whole time, but I've been off BCP for 9 months now and have only had 2 regular cycles. Do you think the dr would give me meds at this point to get my body straightened out, or make me wait until we hit 1 year of TTC? And my second question - will my regular dr give meds to me or do I have to go to an ob/gyn? I don't have an ob/gyn since my primary dr does my annual exams, so I would have to find an ob/gyn... Any opinions or advice?

I think I can safely be changed to "What the *bleep* is going on?!?!"

Guinness
10-19-2005, 10:14 AM
Just dropping in to say congrats to all the October BFPs. You all are on fire! Are there more coming??

Very happy for you Flygirl! You were my cycle buddy the short time I was here, so it is nice to see you got your BFP!!

Dropping off some *~*~*~BABYDUST*~*~*~* for all the rest of you. Roll away:p

ABirney
10-19-2005, 10:46 AM
Congrats Flygirl!!!! H&H 9 months!
Hoping for good results on your DH's SA gymwidow!

shouldaeloped
10-19-2005, 11:01 AM
Congratulations Flygirl!!!!

Lizard
10-19-2005, 11:07 AM
catlover - I don't see any reason why you'd need to wait longer. You have charts showing you're having issues with ovulation. I'd think any good doctor would take a look at those and start working with you on solutions. As for OB or doctor... probably OB/Gyn. Unfortunately, if the OB/Gyns in your area are the same as in ours, you'll be waiting 1-2 months for an appointment. :(

katmg
10-19-2005, 11:14 AM
Awesome! Closing out another thread!! Congratulations Flygirl!! Hopefully I can join you in the July thread soon! :D

nuhmah
10-19-2005, 11:25 AM
Congrats Flygirl!!! That is awesome!!! :)

- - - - - - -
mkvh - I am beginning to fear that I really am not going to O this cycle. :(

mkvh
10-19-2005, 11:29 AM
Hang in there, nuhmah...could just be delayed. Were you stressing about work/the concert/anything else? Your temps are still below the CL...keep an eye on your CM and keep BDing when it looks good. Sending O vibes your way!

cat_loverpq
10-19-2005, 11:56 AM
Thanks Lizard. I've been putting off finding an ob/gyn until I was actually pg b/c I'm not sure which hospital I want to deliver at yet (and I'm a procrastinator like that :p). I guess I'm going to have to get on the stick now and figure it out...especially if I have to wait a month just to get an appointment!

nuhmah
10-19-2005, 11:59 AM
ok... so I wrote that (thanks mkvh for the support!!!), and then went to lunch. I took an OPK and it came out ++++!!! Woohoo! lol

I checked for CM - I got my first EWCM of the cycle! Defenitely BD'ing tonight!

To answer some questions - yes I have been stressed lately. :) Last night was the first concert here at school for me this year, and this group isn't exactly last year's choir. :rolleyes: I have parent-teacher conferences this Thursday and Friday, and we are knee deep into a home remodel.

gymwidow
10-19-2005, 12:01 PM
flygirl, woohoo! Congrats and a H&H 9 months and more!

mkvh & ABirney, thanks!

catlover call your doc. I was having a lot of midcycle spotting, which is what prompted me to call my doc in August, even though we'd only been trying for a month, and I was diagnosed with PCOS (I'd also been charting since going off BCP in February). So we could've tried and tried for a year or more and never gotten anywhere. I'm glad I have a diagnosis now so that we can treat me and get me pregnant. Your regular doc will be able to tell you if s/he can treat you or will need to refer you to an OB/GYN. Good luck.

ROLLING IN THE BABY DUST.................

cat_loverpq
10-19-2005, 12:05 PM
gymwidow ~ Please pardon my lack of knowledge, but what exactly do they do to determine if you have PCOS? Blood tests?

CTs_Punkin
10-19-2005, 12:24 PM
Congrats FLYGIRL!!

Happy & Healthy 9 months to you!!

Nuhmah Get thee to thy Hubby and dance the night away girl!! Yeah for the +++ OPK!! ;)

I got EW... I got EW!! Yee haw... will have to jump on my own too!

mkvh
10-19-2005, 12:27 PM
catlover--ITA that you should try to get thee to a dr. quickly! good luck.

nuhmah--looks like you had to get that concert out of the way to O...YAY!!! for the + OPK and EWCM...now send those O vibes back this way!

CTs Punkin--BD! BD!! BD!!! Good luck catching the eggy and yippee for EWCM!!!

jesseybell
10-19-2005, 01:02 PM
Congratulations flygirl - wishing you a H&H 9 mos. Praying that I'll be joining you in the July 06 Thread!

mkvh
10-19-2005, 01:29 PM
Whoa...+OPKs must be contagious...'cause I think I just got one too! At least it's the closest thing I've gotten to a + since starting to TTC. A dark line, albeit not quite as dark as the control line. But I didn't hold it for that long, either. Yippee!!! I'm gonna call it + unless I get a darker one in the next day or 2. BDing is on in the VH house!

klav
10-19-2005, 01:42 PM
Congrat's mkvh
wow there have been alot in the past week??

mkvh
10-19-2005, 01:52 PM
klav...it was an OPK...just to clarify.

gator97
10-19-2005, 02:12 PM
I am SO far behind in SOs but I have been faithfully reading along. I can't believe we are about to get another new thread!

Congratulations to Gardenia and flygirl! Happy, healthy, and sticky 9 months to you!

Lot's of Oing going on it seems. Hope you all catch the egg!

Lizard and Soulmate---very nice looking charts, ladies. When are you all testing? Lizard---those FPS sound promising.

As for me, 8 DPO (so now, officially allowed to hate the 2WW). I am severly congested, burping a bit, and my skin is super oily! However, this all can be contributed to other things.

polkadot
10-19-2005, 02:27 PM
i cant believe we are getting another thread....wow...

congrats to FLYGIRL..H&H 9 months to you!!!!

i am CD 14, not much going on....lots of Creamy CM though....i am hoping i wait till this weekend to O...so that B will actually be home....;) ;)

later girls

flygirl
10-19-2005, 02:56 PM
Crikey!!! Thank you Polkadot, Gator97, jesseybell, CTsPumpkin, gymwidow, nuhmah, katmg, shouldaeloped, ABirney, Guinness, cat_loverpq, Dotsie, mkvh, klav, amurphy, Kaeden’s Mommy, & Lizzard!! I am so hoping that those of you waiting will join me in the July thread!!!!!! I am kind of bummed I’m not joining the June thread with many of you, and I actually debated it (since I’m on the cusp), but then I’d feel bad about leaving all these about-to-be-July-moms behind ;).

polkadot, I love that icon :). Good luck this weekend!

gator, hoping for a sticky this time!

Oh crap… so much more to post… be back later :D:D

Soulmate
10-19-2005, 03:09 PM
Holy Fertility! Congratulations Flygirl! I wish you a super sticky, happy, healthy 9 months!

I should really come up with more creative congrats considering how many BFPs we've been getting around here!

klav I agree with the others that you Oed on Monday and are still in the running. O pains come *before* the egg is released as it is caused by the swelling/bursting of the folicle. It took me a very long time to realize that my O day was usually the day after my O pains were gone. But the temps override any cramps, pains, etc.

catlover I would go get an appointment too. Usually charters can get help sooner than non-charters cause they have proof that something is wrong.

katmg A while ago I had a co-worker tell me she had a dream I was pregnant in my 2ww. THAT is sooo not fun. Talk about obsessing!

gymwidow I hope your DH's spermies come out to be grade A prime swimmers!

gator97 I am holding out until Sunday...Saturday at the very earliest if I am very weak/bored. AF is due Sunday...but my acupuncturist is working on lengthening my LP so who knows. My temp will plummet on Saturday if I'm not pregnant and my LP is what it usually is. I am hoping this is it for you too! Lets all turn our FPS' into RPS'. It's on