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lawyerlee
06-29-2005, 09:21 AM
I'm not a California voter, but I thought this was interesting. :)


Poll Examines Schwarzenegger Re-Election (http://apnews.excite.com/article/20050629/D8B1AE301.html)

By BETH FOUHY

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) - A majority of California voters do not want to see Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger re-elected, according to the latest poll showing the Republican's political appeal sliding.

The nonpartisan Field Poll of registered voters found that just 39 percent said they were inclined to give Schwarzenegger a second term, while 57 percent were not. As recently as February, the numbers were almost reversed, with 56 percent saying they were inclined to re-elect Schwarzenegger and just 42 percent were not.

A series of polls released by Field researchers indicates Schwarzenegger has lost considerable ground among voters in recent months. The drop in the governor's popularity has coincided with his push for a fall special election for voters to consider several ballot measures aimed at curbing the power of Democrats and public employee unions in state government.

Earlier installments of the poll have shown that Schwarzenegger's job approval ratings have tumbled amid voters expressing skepticism about the special election and tepid support for his ballot measures.

Schwarzenegger has repeatedly said he would favor negotiating an agreement with legislators over the ballot measures that could avert a contentious showdown in the fall.

Still, the findings released Wednesday show that Schwarzenegger has fallen out of favor with almost every major demographic group.

The governor still enjoys considerable support among Republican voters, with 71 percent saying they were inclined to re-elect him.

But the poll found that 83 percent of Democrats, who form the majority of the state's registered voters, would oppose a second term, as would 61 percent of independent voters. Solid majorities of Hispanic voters and women also say they do not want to see the governor re-elected.

"This is a definite turn away from the governor," Field Poll director Mark DiCamillo said. "It's fallen so far, so fast and in a very broad-based way."

Todd Harris, a Schwarzenegger political adviser who is working on the special election campaign, said the poll results on a distant would-be election didn't concern him.

"It's June of '05 and they're talking about November '06," Harris said. "I'm not exactly losing sleep over a poll that asks voters about a hypothetical ballot matchup that is 17 months away."

Schwarzenegger has not yet announced whether he plans to seek a second term.

The poll found that the governor's sagging political fortunes have bolstered the status of two Democrats who have announced they are running for governor. In hypothetical one-on-one matchups, the poll found that voters would chose state Treasurer Phil Angelides or Controller Steve Westly over Schwarzenegger.

However, the poll found voters would favor the former action movie star over two other well-known Hollywood faces, director Rob Reiner and actor Warren Beatty. Both are active in Californina politics but have not signaled any intention to run for governor.

The poll of 711 registered voters was conducted from June 13 to June 19 and had a sampling error of plus or minus 3.6 percentage points.

ee_chick
06-29-2005, 10:49 AM
I'm not surprised that he's facing more resistance. He's worked the easy issues and moved onto the hard ones. I think he feels that he's treated the symptoms as well as he can and now it's time to take care of the root cause of our financial problems. It's natural that people will be upset about that. It upsets the status quo in a big way.

I think it's fair to say how he handles the issues being discussed for the special election will have huge and long lasting effects -- for both the state and his political career.

FWIW, our state legislature has an approval rating much lower than Schwarzenegger. There's a link to a poll in this (http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/la-me-governor22jun22,1,4669511.story) article.

lawyerlee
06-29-2005, 11:00 AM
Thank you for sharing the link to that article. :)

Stephanie
06-29-2005, 09:30 PM
Don't even get me started on our gov. I'm a teacher and my husband is a fireman. Let's just say that we may be Republicans, but we are definitely not impressed right now. :rolleyes: If you want to start a bitch fest at my elementary school, just get a conversation going about tenure and merit pay. Get 'em all fired up! :D My husband knows a lot more than I do about how his retirement would be in danger, but I do know that we're both in trouble if the gov. gets what he wants.

anjuli
06-29-2005, 11:38 PM
As a Californian, I'm tired of the Governator always going to the voters to get what he wants if the Legislature won't give in to his demands. What's the point of having a Legislature if he keeps doing that? We might as well fire all the legislators and use the money we save by not paying for their salaries on the special elections that the Governator wants to hold. :rolleyes: We still have a HUGE deficit, but we are going to spend up to $80 million on this special election. Where's the logic in that?

Personally I will be happy if he's not re-elected because I don't see how he's much better than Davis was.

gayle
06-30-2005, 07:53 AM
ITA Stephanie.

I am a Democrat who, in the early months of the Gov's admin, had to eat some of my words as I started out being quite impressed with his moderate stance, and willingness to address some of CA's key issues with real action.

What he is doing to education, in particular has completely turned me around. It is appalling. He is willingto take our already dismally underfunded education system, and take it down several notches farther. It's a travesty.

And MANY Republicans that I personally know,along with EVERY Democrat I know, want him gone as fast as we can get him out.

ee_chick
06-30-2005, 07:56 AM
As a Californian, I'm tired of the Governator always going to the voters to get what he wants if the Legislature won't give in to his demands.

:shrug: Based on the poll from the article I linked above, I know I'm not the only one who thinks that the legislature is doing a poor job. Thanks to ridiculous gerrymandering, it's not as if their elections are generally challenging. Personally, I think that there are two issues that must be changed for the health of the state -- redistricting and a spending cap. The fact that Schwarzenegger has chosen to fight for those two items has turned me from a doubter (I did not vote for him) into an supporter. I think that CALPERS has to be fixed too, but I'm not sure that an iniative is the way to do it.

Stephanie -- It's my understanding that pension changes would be for new hires (2007 and on) only. Those in the system now would be grandfathered in.

Stephanie
06-30-2005, 10:25 AM
ee_chick~I hope that is the case. My husband's retirement is odd and I don't know all the ins and outs. 3% at 50 and all that :confused: Good thing he understands! I hope that it would only be new hires, but you still have to watch out for them. Thanks for the info.

One thing that I am really worried about is how the voters will look at increasing tenure for teachers. My aunt and grandmother were for it! They had no idea how tenure is beneficial and it doesn't necessarily keep awful teachers in the system. I'm starting my third year of teaching and will finally have tenure this year. :D These past two years, they could have let me go and not have to explain a thing to me. My union wouldn't touch an issue like that because I don't have tenure. I actually was pink slipped my first year (along with 250 others) because they were having budget problems. I would hate to wait five years or longer without having tenure. I'm lucky to have a wondeful, easygoing principal, but I've heard of some others that are just complete asses. I had four formal observations in two years and I can't imagine how many there would be if tenure increased. I remember watching my principal writing on his notepad while I was doing a lesson and thinking that if it all starts going to shit, my job would be on the line. Thank goodness they were all great for my record.

Does anyone know exactly what will be on the Nov. ballot? I'm not the most political person and sometimes need it watered down to the basic issue. Any links or info would be great! :D

armadillo
06-30-2005, 10:38 AM
I had four formal observations in two years and I can't imagine how many there would be if tenure increased. I remember watching my principal writing on his notepad while I was doing a lesson and thinking that if it all starts going to shit, my job would be on the line. Thank goodness they were all great for my record.


So you think it's a bad thing when the principal observes you teaching? Why is that? Seems to be a good thing to me. He can give any constructive criticism and it keeps the teachers sharp.

As for the school budget. My husband is a network engineer who does a lot of jobs for the school district. They have ridiculous budgets for technology. He said one district just spend $10 million on new computers and network equipment that they won't even use. Cutting school budgets isn't necessarily a bad thing if they allocate the spending properly.

Stephanie
06-30-2005, 11:02 AM
Amardillo~Actually, I think it is a great thing to be observed! Don't get me wrong, everyone needs to be told how some things are working and how others aren't! :) It is very beneficial and sometimes really needed. I will be the first to say, though, that it is stressful. In your first year, too. I think that difficulties arise when you butt heads with your administrator. They hold all the cards and so does the district. These last two years I could have received a letter saying that my services are no longer needed and they aren't obligated to tell me why. It is scary to know that your union will back you and the district will assure due process only if you have tenure. It would be really scary if they were to up it to ten years, which I think was talked about but I don't know. If you are getting close to retiring or have earned a masters and your salary goes up, you aren't as appealing to the district as a brand new teacher. I know my district is horribly run and money is everything. We were the only ones in our county to have the budget denied three times. :rolleyes: With all of the testing pressure and having to raise scores, it's hard to worry about whether you will have a job the next year.

Also, I believe you on the technology budgets. We had 3 new schools open this year and I have heard about the outrageous costs! It's sad to see it go to waste when my school has its teachers get donations from parents for tissue, crayons, paper. I can't tell you how many times I have run out of tissue and have the kid use the gross brown papertowels. Ouch!

BryantRN
07-01-2005, 09:51 AM
Okay so I am here to put in my two cents! As a nurse you can only guess that I can't stand the way that the "Goventator" is running this state. The idea of saying it does not matter how many patients that a nurse can care for really scares me, and it should scare you as well. The major fact is that people are much sicker nowadays than ever before and caring for them takes so much skill and constant attention. How am I as a nurse expected to take on the legal responsibility for the care of these patients, but not be protected !!! He has been out raising more money than Gray Davis did in his entire term, but I am considered the special interest??? I am sorry, but my only special interest is the care and safety of my patients. The real heros in this state, the teachers, fireman, police officers, and yes even the nurses, are being brutalized by this Govenor who would like the public to feel that we are the threat when in fact he is the real threat!! I give him props for only one thing, he did not allow the illegal immigrants to obtain driver's licenses.

Sorry for the rant, I am very passionate when it comes to patient care.

~Renee~