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southerner
09-16-2005, 01:59 PM
Her new season premieres next Monday.

It's been 20 years since her show has been on the air and she promises to celebrate in style!!!

Her schedule isn't posted for next week yet, but I read somewhere that Jennifer Anniston is supposed to be on it Monday.

Let's chat about her shows this season.....

JLRenheos
09-16-2005, 04:14 PM
My TiVo is automatically set to record Oprah! My MIL went to see Maya Angelou & Oprah Winfrey when they came to visit Dayton on Monday Sept. 12th! I haven't gotten the details yet, nor do I know if my MIL actually paid the $300 tickets. I'll see her Sunday, so I'll ask how it went!

Anyway, I'm looking forward to her new season & Monday's show!! Thanks for starting this thread!

Byrd's Boogie
09-17-2005, 05:56 AM
My Tivo is on a season pass for Oprah also. I love her show!

Rose
09-17-2005, 06:28 AM
I love Oprah. I saw the commercial last night that said Jennifer Aniston would be there on Monday, so that makes it official! I am going to have to leave work early for this one.

Asha
09-17-2005, 07:21 AM
also, this week will also include bonjovi and chris rock.

though, i do like the celebrity interviews she does, i feel like she is doing too much of that these days. sometimes i feel like it is just doing a movie promotion. i like it more when she does real issues.

southerner
09-17-2005, 10:30 AM
Here's what's on next week:

Monday: Jennifer Aniston

Tuesday:Lance Armstrong, Anthony Hopkins fullfills one of Oprah's dream and Usher and Patti LeBelle pay tribute to the late Luther Vandross

Wednesday: Jon Bon Jovi

Thursday: Chris Rock

Friday: Dancing with the Stars winners, Julianne Moore and Kelly Clarkson.

though, i do like the celebrity interviews she does, i feel like she is doing too much of that these days. sometimes i feel like it is just doing a movie promotion. i like it more when she does real issues.

ITA!! Seems like this week is going to be like that a little. I think as the season goes on, she'll do more of the "real issue" shows.

numberlady
09-17-2005, 12:18 PM
I love Oprah and tivo her show every day. I can't wait for the season to begin! I love Jennifer Aniston and Lance Armstrong!

sdianems
09-19-2005, 07:47 AM
also, this week will also include bonjovi and chris rock.

though, i do like the celebrity interviews she does, i feel like she is doing too much of that these days. sometimes i feel like it is just doing a movie promotion. i like it more when she does real issues.
ITA....I don't like her "celebrity gush-fests" nearly as much as the "real" shows.

melones
09-19-2005, 09:23 AM
I heard a rumor that she is trying to surpass her car giveway and is going to give HOUSES out this year...hard to believe but would be wonderful if she did...esp to some people devasted by Katrina.

vjel
09-19-2005, 01:23 PM
I am watching Oprah now and her new studio looks HUGE, good Lord! I wonder if it can now accommodate more guests?

I have to say that Jennifer looks GREAT!

She will be announcing what she is doing to help those devastated by Katrina during this show...you know its going to be big!

vjel
09-19-2005, 02:00 PM
came back to say that Oprah is donating $10m of her own money to help Katrina victims rebuild. She also has a registry set up on her website for those of us who want to help her in her efforts. You can basically go in and buy stuff for the houses that she is going to help build...toasters, towels, an entire kitchen or an entire house if one can afford to do so. I think she said she is also setting up an Angel Network specifically for Katrina victims.

Ashes
09-19-2005, 02:25 PM
Her new puppies were the best part of an otherwise disappointing 20th season premiere.

JillianS
09-19-2005, 07:39 PM
but Jenn Anniston I thought looked FAB.

southerner
09-19-2005, 08:31 PM
I also was kind of disappointed in today's show. Last year she gave brand new cars to the entire audience at her premiere. I know she can't do that every year, but it was her 20th season premiere. Although her $10 million to Katrina victims was cool.

Can you believe how different she looks with no makeup :eek:

Bon Jovi episode looks good!

jeepgirl
09-20-2005, 08:32 AM
Considering the devastation of Katrina, and all those who have absolutely nothing right now, I would have been disappointed if Oprah had given the members of her audience something big like a car or house. I'm not sure how I feel about her announcing just how much she is giving, it almost seems like tooting your own horn, but, on the other hand, maybe it will prompt people with money to try to GIVE BIG too. I definitely like the way they are setting up the ability to help with the victims and I like how Oprah encouraged people to give as they are able to give - even if its just a toaster. How nice to PICK OUT exactly what you will be able to give to help someone back on their feet - and its nice that the things given will be NEW!

Puppies were cute... I TOTALLY agree that Jennifer Aniston looked absolutely FABULOUS, and I thought she handled the subject of the divorce in a very classy way.

As for the new studio, personally, I preferred last years. It looked warmer and cozier.

apoppy
09-20-2005, 08:44 AM
As for the new studio, personally, I preferred last years. It looked warmer and cozier.

I totally agree. I think the new one looks very cold and less intimate. It is pretty fancy though, so maybe they will be able to reconfigure it in the future so that Oprah and her guests don't look so cut off from the audience.

vjel
09-20-2005, 11:19 AM
I'm not sure how I feel about her announcing just how much she is giving, it almost seems like tooting your own horn, but, on the other hand, maybe it will prompt people with money to try to GIVE BIG too.

I know what you mean about that but I really took it as encouraging others who can give big to do so. I have heard some celebrities giving $1m, which is A LOT of money to just the avg. person, but a drop in the bucket for some of these actors. KWIM?

southerner
09-20-2005, 12:21 PM
I also thought the studio lacked the intimacy piece. There was one point where Jennifer Anniston had to physically turn around and wave to the audience members behind her.

The Luther tribute might be sad today.

KitKat
09-20-2005, 12:29 PM
It was nice to see that Jennifer A. is doing well, she looks great! I only watched the first few mins... for those who saw the show:

What did Jennifer say when Oprah asked if she was ready to date? Did she seem enthusiastic or not?

southerner
09-20-2005, 12:32 PM
What did Jennifer say when Oprah asked if she was ready to date? Did she seem enthusiastic or not?

Yes she is. She even used a little sarcasm and looked at her watch to imply she's ready or was ready a while ago.

Chris'slady
09-20-2005, 12:34 PM
Southerner your avatar is HOT !

southerner
09-20-2005, 12:36 PM
Why yes he is ;)

houseblend
09-20-2005, 12:37 PM
I agree about the studio - it just comes off cold and not intimate. It reminded me of Phil Donahue for some reason.

I hope this season isn't so focused on celebrities. I like them occassionally, but that's what Leno and Letterman are for. I prefer Oprah to stick to more real-life issues - what I feel she does best.

KitKat
09-20-2005, 12:45 PM
Yes she is. She even used a little sarcasm and looked at her watch to imply she's ready or was ready a while ago.

Thanks Southerner, good to hear it!

I think she's looking hot & ready to go!

southerner
09-20-2005, 02:22 PM
thought the show was better today, but a big promo for people's movies and cd's :rolleyes:

I did tear up during Sheryl Crow tlaking about Lance and Patti LaBelle singing a tribute to Luther. Man, that woman can still belt with the best of them :eek: I do wish Oprah had spent more time with Lance and Anthony Hopkins, Shit, they both deserve their own show. She didn't even talk about his cancer or Live Strong!!

I loved Bon Jovi "back in the day" so I'm psyched he's on tomorrow. Heck, he got his own show ;)

numberlady
09-21-2005, 04:37 AM
I feel kinda eh about her first two shows. I really like the people that have been on, but I feel like she is just trying to cram too much into the shows. It feels disjointed that she would have Lance Armstrong, Anthony Hopkins, Usher and Patti LaBelle all on one show and not give the viewers enough time to get to know them better. Hopefully it will mellow out once this first week is over.

jeepgirl
09-21-2005, 11:37 AM
Ditto to everyone else's comments, including Southerner's avatar. Who is he? Is he someone famous? If he's someone you know personally ;) we'll understand if you don't reveal his identity... unless he's your brother and he needs a date? :p LOL.

southerner
09-21-2005, 11:44 AM
Ditto to everyone else's comments, including Southerner's avatar. Who is he? Is he someone famous? If he's someone you know personally ;) we'll understand if you don't reveal his identity... unless he's your brother and he needs a date? :p LOL.


hehe...that's funny.

It's Josh Holloway (Sawyer) from the TV show LOST. My obsession.....

jeepgirl
09-21-2005, 11:45 AM
Oh... well... guess I need to get my head out of the sand and watch me some LOST!!! :D

southerner
09-21-2005, 11:49 AM
there's tons o hotties on LOST!! you might start to notice other avatars of strange hot men, they most likely belong to the cast of this awesome show.

It premieres tonight with a "recap" of Season One on before it, if yuou're being serious. Good quality drool time for me ;)

KitKat
09-21-2005, 11:56 AM
I feel kinda eh about her first two shows. I really like the people that have been on, but I feel like she is just trying to cram too much into the shows.

Ditto.

And I don't care for her new set either. Unbelievable that it took two years of planning for it. It does seem so cold!

MMHinCA
09-21-2005, 08:13 PM
Anyone know what kind of puppies Oprah got?

KitKat
09-22-2005, 10:45 AM
"In July, Oprah and Stedman made a very big decision that would change their lives forever...Their journey began in Tehachapi, California, deep in the Mojave Desert, where dozens of golden retriever puppies awaited new homes.

"Stedman and I had a deal," Oprah says. "We'd choose one puppy apiece. But secretly I know this is not gonna be easy."
...

Then, Oprah spotted another pup that she couldn't resist—in spite of a slight imperfection.
...

So on to Plan B…why not three puppies instead of two? It took some serious puppy eyes to convince Stedman, but in the end they left with three new additions—Luke, Layla and Gracie!"

http://www2.oprah.com/tows/slide/200509/20050919/slide_20050919_350_201.jhtml

imagirliegirl
09-22-2005, 12:58 PM
Thanks to Oprah I think I have a crush on Bon Jovi now. How adorable is he?

ivansbabe
09-22-2005, 02:07 PM
Yeah, these shows have kinda sucked so far :( I'm sure once this week is over we'll get into better topics other than what celebrity is doing what. I can never really get into idolizing celebrities so I hardly care what happens in their personal life. I also don't like the new set either...it is cold (whoever said that is right!) and it looks like a mini award show stage.

Asha
09-22-2005, 02:17 PM
as far why she didn't go into lance armstrong's battle with cancer and his bracelets - she already did an entire show with him where they discussed these in depth last season. his mom even came to that show.

yeah, the shows this week are seeming very letterman like with just snippets with each celebrity. i haven't watched at all bc i can't get into those shows as much as her other ones. it's too fluffy for me.

southerner
09-23-2005, 06:33 PM
again she crammed too much into one show.

looks like next week she has some decent shows on....

southerner
09-23-2005, 06:36 PM
as far why she didn't go into lance armstrong's battle with cancer and his bracelets - she already did an entire show with him where they discussed these in depth last season. his mom even came to that show.

I missed that show, too bad!

Thanks to Oprah I think I have a crush on Bon Jovi now. How adorable is he?

imagirliegirl yep! always loved me some Bon Jovi and do even more now. He definitley got some good publicity for his new album though :rolleyes:

KitKat
09-27-2005, 11:13 AM
I had never heard of Carole Radziwill before the show, but she had such a moving story regarding her friendship with JFK Jr. & Caroline and her husband's battle with cancer. So sad. (Her hubby & JFKJ were cousins & best friends.)

maplekitty
09-27-2005, 08:59 PM
Anyone else wondering why she has different couch/chair sets for every show?? The couch/chair set fits with the "mood" of the show and the guests, but is it seriouasly going to change every day?


I too was disspointed when the announcer man kept saying "Anything...can....happen"....and then, not much happened. Last season was awesome, this season is kinda fizzling.

houseblend
09-30-2005, 12:40 PM
I thought yesterday's episode was finally back on track. It was actually a very moving episode. Still not loving the set, but at least the topic was good.

I also loved her earrings - they were gorgeous diamond breast-cancer support earrings.

southerner
10-03-2005, 07:11 PM
loved the Faith Hill episode today, but again a promo for her new cd. At least she did spend the whole show with just her.

Wednesday she has on Sarah Jessica Parker, Matthew Fox and Orlando Bloom. That's three one hour episodes (and an Oprah After the Show show) if you ask me!

tgray99
10-03-2005, 08:03 PM
I had never heard of Carole Radziwill before the show, but she had such a moving story regarding her friendship with JFK Jr. & Caroline and her husband's battle with cancer. So sad. (Her hubby & JFKJ were cousins & best friends.)
Lee Radziwill was Jackie's sister. Carole is her daughter, Caroline and John-John's first cousin.

I'm really not a Kennedy groupie...I just enjoy random trivia.

I agree about the celeb episodes...too much fluff, not enough substance.

MMHinCA
10-04-2005, 08:10 AM
I thought Carole's husband was John's first cousin (Lee's son).

prudies
10-04-2005, 08:16 AM
I thought Carole's husband was John's first cousin (Lee's son). Yep, Lee's son/Carole's husband was JFK Jr.'s first cousin.

I think the new season sorta sucks so far.

MaineBelle
10-04-2005, 09:05 AM
I've only watched one episode of the new season so far- I happened to be home from work. I did not like it at all. It was the one with Kelly Clarkson, Julianne Moore, and the Dancing with the Stars. It seemed like such a random group of celebrities, plus I don't like how she crammed so much into one episode. I would have like to heard more from each of the celebrites - esp how Kelly Clarkson's life has changed.

And I agree with the set - it was too cold, and there were different seating arrangements for each segment.

tgray99
10-04-2005, 01:16 PM
Yep, Lee's son/Carole's husband was JFK Jr.'s first cousin.

I think the new season sorta sucks so far.
Oops, I mixed them up. ;) Thanks for clearing that one up for me.

IrishMeg
10-04-2005, 01:38 PM
Today's episode has left me feeling nauseous. Watching Jessica Lunsford's father speak always makes me cry. I can not fathom the pain he must be in.

apoppy
10-04-2005, 01:56 PM
Watching Jessica Lunsford's father speak always makes me cry.

I agree. I don't think I have ever seen such a broken looking man.

tgray99
10-04-2005, 07:55 PM
Who is Jessica Lunsford??

IrishMeg
10-05-2005, 12:25 PM
http://www.jessicamarielunsford.com/

tgray99
10-05-2005, 10:48 PM
Well, we had a great, thought/tear provoking episode yesterday and today we're back to celebrity fluff. :rolleyes:

I did love it when SJP got so excited when she announced that everyone was getting a bottle of her fragrance that her shoe flew off. That was a totally "Carrie" moment (like when she fell at the fashion show). :D

Asha
10-06-2005, 06:25 AM
i am seriously considering writing to oprah and letting her know her shows this season suck!!

apoppy
10-06-2005, 06:40 AM
Do it rebjc! I thought Oprah's vision for her show was "live your best life" not "look how many celebrities I know." :rolleyes:

Also, she needs to get rid of that flip.

Asha
10-06-2005, 06:56 AM
i have entirely too much time on my hands this week bc i emailed the oprah show to let her know how i feel.

though, i didn't mention the flip bc the whole point of my email was to not focus on superficial stuff. ;)

houseblend
10-06-2005, 08:06 AM
I think that's great Rebekah! The only way they can know these things is viewer feedback (besides waiting for ratings to fall and then them wondering why). I may write her myself!

And those chairs yesterday...I felt sorry for the poor guests who had to jump up to be able to sit in them. How uncomfortable!

kugrrly
10-06-2005, 08:29 AM
I have not been able to watch that many episodes this season. Every time I checked the synopsis it seemed like the focus was celebrity celebrity celebrity. I think I will be will watching Beverly Hills 90210 instead. :)

Asha
10-06-2005, 09:25 AM
is the episode with the cast of "crash" a re-run? i hope so bc why did it take her so dang long to get the cast on. that movie is one of my fave movies, but why would it take her so long to do a show about it? oh, could it be because it wasn't a blockbuster???!!!;)

southerner
10-10-2005, 10:17 AM
rebjc did you ever hear anything back from them?

Did y'all hear that two of the sex offenders she featured on last Thursday's show have been caught??? Cool, huh?

ivansbabe
10-10-2005, 10:24 AM
is the episode with the cast of "crash" a re-run? i hope so bc why did it take her so dang long to get the cast on. that movie is one of my fave movies, but why would it take her so long to do a show about it? oh, could it be because it wasn't a blockbuster???!!!;)

I think she said that it was around the end of last season when the movie came out so she couldn't do a show about it then, even though she really wanted to. So she decided to have a show when the DVD came out for it.

But I totally agree with you. So far this season has been really bad, especially the show topics. I hate her new set as well, but it wouldn't be half as bad if she had more shows with substance. I mean, that's why I liked watching her. She can handle sensitive topics really well...not so much the celebrity interviews IMO.

Asha
10-10-2005, 02:06 PM
southerner - i only got an automatic reply saying they received my email and stressing the point that they can't give personal responses to everyone.

ivansbabe - ita with you about celebrity interviews. lately, she hasn't been good with them and some interviews have seemed a little awkward like the one with uma thurman.

****

it's wonderful that those sex offenders have been caught. that's just proof of the power of her more meaningful and important shows.

jeepgirl
10-10-2005, 02:22 PM
How many sex offenders were featured??? That is awesome!

southerner
10-10-2005, 06:56 PM
How many sex offenders were featured??? That is awesome!

she featured 8 and this week she is doing a follow up about the two they already caught!

southerner
10-10-2005, 07:46 PM
tomorrow (Tuesday) is the follow up show....

jeepgirl
10-12-2005, 04:46 PM
What was aired today (Wednesday), I missed it!

vjel
10-12-2005, 04:54 PM
today's show was about America's poor people.

i think this week her show is back on track!

apoppy
10-13-2005, 01:04 PM
Well, this is interesting...Oprah is discussing her god-awful flat flip on today's show. Apparently, I was not the only one who was offended. ;)

Now, is she going to admit that she needs to quit interviewing so many celebs?

Foos6LA
10-13-2005, 02:22 PM
Hi! I just found this thread.

I don't know if this has already been discussed from when Nate Berkus was on but if Oprah makes another comment about the Hermes incident, I'm going to scream!

TaterBaby
10-13-2005, 02:38 PM
Anyone watch the show on Wednesday about America's poor people? She went to Pembroke, IL, which had no running water and to Detroit. It was disturbing that people live like that, but what I want to know is why these people have next to nothing but they are all morbidly obese? Did anyone else notice that? That makes no sense to me.

amorey
10-13-2005, 02:43 PM
From a statistical standpoint, lower income people tend to be more overweight. It’s because the least healthy foods are also the cheapest. Think raman! Also, if you don’t live in a safe neighborhood, it’s hard to get out and exercise, and gym memberships and home gym equipment are expensive.

apoppy
10-13-2005, 02:46 PM
The cheapest food is often not the most nutritious food. Extreme poverty often leads to all sorts of health problems that may also increase weight or limit mobility.

Asha
10-13-2005, 03:44 PM
living in a not so good neighborhood myself, i know for a fact the grocery stores suck here. the fruit and vegetables are gross. the selection is horrible. crappy, high fat, overly processed foods far outnumber the healthy foods. we are fortunate that we have a car and can travel outside of our neighborhood to do our grocery shopping. the poor people in the neighborhood do not have cars.

plus, i can imagine when you are poor you are not feeling so good about yourself. when i am not feeling so great, i don't want to eat a salad. i want some cookies.

southerner
10-17-2005, 04:40 PM
I liked today's show. The women we must all meet, inspirational for us dreamres out there. Looks like there are good shows on this week.

southerner
10-20-2005, 07:31 PM
tyson Beckford Is Hot!!!!!

southerner
10-21-2005, 10:32 PM
James Blake is hot too.

Thanks for the eye candy this wek, Ope :D

I have enjoyed her shows this year a bit more lately. Although, I think Oprah interrupts people and brags a bit more than she has in the past. Maybe the new studio has gone to her head? I mean, don't get me wrong, I still think she has a heart of gold and a unique ability to put some of what she features on he show into "real life" experience (ie. the episode this week about hearts and women.....1 in 2 :eek: )

Anyone read A Million Little Pieces? They were raving about it today, I'm tempted to buy it.

Asha
10-22-2005, 11:40 AM
southerner - i agree with you that blake is a hotty. he even made an appearance in my journal before the oprah show. though, i must say i still don't like her new format. why oh why is she having so many celebs on her show. it's like she has become leno, letterman, ellen. ahhhh!!

JenniferEC
10-24-2005, 01:46 PM
I hope I don't get slammed for this, but the 9/11 widow on the show today was really getting on my nerves! Somehow I don't believe having a monument is going to help her move on. And I have no idea what she is going through, but it was like she was on the show to do something about her husband's remains rather than get help for her compulsive shopping.

apoppy
10-24-2005, 01:50 PM
I think a lot of her problem is the medication that she is on...she isn't making a whole lot of sense about anything really.

LeslieR
10-24-2005, 02:02 PM
I've really been disappointed with her shows this season.

jeepgirl
10-24-2005, 09:19 PM
I hope I don't get slammed for this, but the 9/11 widow on the show today was really getting on my nerves! Somehow I don't believe having a monument is going to help her move on. And I have no idea what she is going through, but it was like she was on the show to do something about her husband's remains rather than get help for her compulsive shopping.


I totally wouldn't "slam" you for this comment. It is very much what I was thinking through the first half of the show. However, by the end, I was really glad she had been willing to go on the show. I did actually understand a little bit better how I really cannot judge her. Even if her only motivation was to get something done about her husbands remains, I have to say, I think I would have gone on the show to "fight" for that too. I believe its WRONG to treat the dead that way when it is possible to do something about it. I didn't even know that is what had been done with the bodies of those that died that day! And.... yes, I do think her medications are getting in the way. I really hope she gets some therapy and gets back on track. As for the money, how she spends her money is her business. There are plenty of people who have tennis courts and swimming pools... plenty of people who remodel their homes, and plenty of people who do spend WAY too much on name brand clothing. It sounds like she came from some money to begin with, and any money given to her as "compensation" for the death of her husband is also hers to spend as she chooses. Obviously, looking back it could have been spent better and even she admits it. But the money was hers and not anyone elses!

ejs
10-24-2005, 09:35 PM
The guest today really bothered me. She just didn't get what her daughter, Oprah, or the therapist were saying.

When DH and I made our donation after 9/11, we realized that the money was our of our hands. However, we assumed that it would be used for something other than items by Jimmy Choo, Vera Wang, and Donna Karan. It seems she could have spent some of that almost $5 million on trying to get the memorial.

I know everyone reacts differently to loss and grief. But this woman just didn't tug at my heartstrings.

Kimberland30
10-25-2005, 04:49 AM
ITA with Jeepgirl.

The widow even said during the interview that all the money she spent wasn't from donations, some was from life insurance and other sources. She said that she didn't feel bad for the upgrades on her home, but that she did feel bad about spending so much on clothes and other "material" things.

As a comfort shopper myself (but nowhere near her spending, obviously), I can totally relate to the feeling of buying something to ease pain. I tend to shop more when I'm bored or feeling down, just to pep myself up. I can't even imagine going through the heartbreak she did with losing her husband, and the continual pain she feels about his remains being in a dump, and if spending loads of money temporarily helped her, who are we to judge her for that?

I think Oprah and the therapist were right on when they said that she needs to create her own memorial. I can totally understand the widows anger about her husbands remains, but if nothing is going to be done about it (being that it's 4 years later already), she needs to come up with her own solution.

I seriously hope that she gets the therapy she needs, and gets off the meds that are blocking her emotions. She has to go through the pain in order to move on with her life.

jeepgirl
10-25-2005, 06:31 AM
I know everyone reacts differently to loss and grief. But this woman just didn't tug at my heartstrings.


Interestingly, I really did get the impression that HER reason for going on the show was NOT to get sympathy. I actually DO think she doesn't really care what other people think, because she knows where the money came from that she spent, and if people just don't "get" that the money was hers, and not from donation funds, then that's their problem! Does she have regrets about how she spent SOME of the money? Sure. I have regrets about how I spent some money last week! However, she went on the show because she is ANGRY about how the remains of the 9/11 victims were dealt with, and I don't blame her! I'm glad she got to give this issue national coverage. Someone should have LONG before now! Maybe something will be done about it now. I know she should not WAIT for that, nor do I think it will resolve her issues, but so what. LET SOMETHING BE DONE ABOUT IT! How awful!

I will say that, however, I think the REASON her daughter came on the show was different than the mother's. The daughter does want HELP for her mother... and no, I don't think the mother has realized how much help she needs, or at least was in denial about it. By the end of it, it did seem like she was "catching a glimpse" of that. Thank God! I wish her and her family the best.

maplekitty
10-25-2005, 04:51 PM
Charles Barkley on the Micheal Jordan episode today was frikkin hillarious!!
I was laughing outloud so many times! :D

Kimberland30
10-26-2005, 11:29 AM
I DVR'd the show from yesterday and only got to watch half of it at lunch today, but it was too funny! I had to leave right after they showed the clip of Charles Barkley hitting the golf ball. Uh, can we say "DORK"? That was hilarious! I can't imagine him being a 73 golfer. Poor guy should have never seen the pro! :)

I can't wait to watch the rest of it, my DD and mom were laughing when I was leaving the house, and it took all my will power to keep walking so I could get back to work.

TaterBaby
11-08-2005, 07:36 AM
Anyone watch yesterday when Kirstie Alley was on talking about her recent weight loss? She said her highest weight was 203, but then she quit smoking and went up to 219. She is now down 55 lbs. and wants to lose 25-30 more.
I read an article about Rosie O'Donnell in a recent magazine (can't remember which one) and she said that when she heard that Kirstie say her highest weight was 203, she spit out the Yoohoo that she was drinking. Rosie said that she and all her friends though Kirstie was in the 300 lbs range.
What do you think?

jeepgirl
11-08-2005, 08:34 AM
I watched the show... I thought it was excellent and wish I had recorded it! I've decided if I dance more, have lots of sex, eat the same foods I love but with healthier ingredients, and find a baby to lift weights with, I'll lose LOTS of weight! :D Did I miss anything?!

As for Kirstie's weight, I would have guessed her to be more than 219 lbs also... but, at the same time, I wouldn't put a lot of "stock" into what Rosie O'donnell said. Kirstie knows how much she weighed... and, frankly, it really doesn't matter to me whether it was 219 or 319, losing 55 pounds (and counting) is great!

LeslieR
11-08-2005, 08:38 AM
I found myself wondering how tall Kirstie is. I did think she looked heavier than that and only because I weigh more than her "heaviest weight" and I don't think I look that big (and I may be in denial here). Those lifesize posters of her were awful!

Loved the baby exercises-anyone remember what they were? I only remember the squats, sit ups, and maybe a form of push ups?

Asha
11-08-2005, 09:19 AM
I've decided if I dance more

i didn't watch yesterday. is this something they suggested? i used to dance alone in my living room all the time. i am sure i looked foolish, but i had so much fun. i was at my lowest weight when i was doing that. i highly recommend it. now, i am do the treadmill, and it not nearly half as fun nor as effective.

MtySheera
11-08-2005, 09:42 AM
Kirstie Alley said she doesn't excercise, but she goes to a studio with 2 choreographers and dances. So Oprah went with her and they came out on the show and did a routine together. It definitely motivated me to get out the Dance Revolution at home and start dancing!!

Before I met my DH, my friends and I went dancing at clubs every weekend, sometimes twice in a weekend. I didn't think about how good it was for my body, but now that I haven't been to a club in a long time, I can see a difference. I have gained a lot more weight.

I also thought Kirstie Alley looked like she weighed more than 219. She looks pretty tall. When she said she was going to tell how much she really weighed, I expected her to say something like 280. When she said 203, I said "No Way". But I could be wrong, and really, like jeepgirl said, the number doesn't matter. She is losing weight, and that is awesome!!

The 2 women who lost weight and showed their pictures in bikinis were amazing!!! I couldn't believe how muscular the woman was who won the bikini contest. Now that is some motivation!!! I felt so bad when the other gal told about the blind date she went on. What a jerk that guy was!!! But she looks awesome now!

LeslieR: The only other excercise I remembered was when she had her son on her stomach and pressed her butt up. I thought everything she was doing was a good idea, but when she was doing the push ups, I was thinking, what kid is going to just stay there? My son would move all over and wouldn't stay still!

kd 9.21.02
11-11-2005, 01:57 PM
Who else bawled their eyes out during yesterday's show? I'm so glad they did another show about Bernadette and her family. I LOVE her. So thrilled Oprah will pay for the kids' college education if they work hard to get into good schools.

Asha
11-11-2005, 02:45 PM
kd - i was teary eyed during the show. she really deserved it.

jeepgirl
11-11-2005, 02:58 PM
I felt so bad when the other gal told about the blind date she went on. What a jerk that guy was!!! But she looks awesome now!

That's the one I left out! What did she say she did to lose weight????


I didn't get to see ALL of yesterday's show, but the part I did watch, I was BAWLING too! Ofcourse it doesn't help that I am pre-pms. ;) I didn't hear the part where Oprah said she would pay for their educations! That's awesome!

*sigh* I wish they would make DVDs like "The Best of the Oprah Show: Season 20" etc. I would buy it right up!!!

MrsWilson
11-11-2005, 03:20 PM
That's the one I left out! What did she say she did to lose weight???
Wasn't that the one where she drank a glass of water and waited 15 minutes and her craving went away?

MtySheera
11-11-2005, 03:32 PM
Jeepgirl: Have you seen this?
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THE STARS, ACT 1: John Travolta, Julia Roberts, Barbara Walters and more!
Disc Two
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SURPRISE! Caught off guard! Birthdays, marriage proposals and other amazing surprises!
HOME: Private tours of celebrity homes, room makeovers and decorating with Nate Berkus!
THE STARS, ACT 2: Bill Cosby, The Judds, Madonna and more
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BEHIND THE SCENES: A day in the life of The Oprah Winfrey Show
LAUGHS! Hilarious moments caught on camera

Asha
11-12-2005, 07:03 AM
oh, i so want that set. just a few mos ago i was saying that i wished they put out something like that bc i was just a kid when oprah started, so i didn't get to see her way back in the day. plus, my mom wouldn't let me watch it until i was much older. something, else i will have to add to my santa list.

jeepgirl
11-12-2005, 07:54 AM
Wasn't that the one where she drank a glass of water and waited 15 minutes and her craving went away?

MrsWilson - Yes, that's it!!!! Okay so if I dance more, have lots of sex, eat the foods I love but with healthier ingredients, find a baby to workout with and drink a glass of water and wait 15 minutes whenever I have a craving... I'm good to go! Hello size _____. (Fill in the blank.) :D j/k

Jeepgirl: Have you seen this?


MtySheera - You know... I think I have, but I did not pay attention to the description that well. I would like to check it out! I do wish, however, that there were something that really went into more detail and EMPHASIZED her very recent years... if I remember correctly there were years in the past that I thought her show was not as educational, and more along the lines of Geraldo Rivera, etc. But, maybe that kind of stuff was left out! If so, that woudl be great!

southerner
11-12-2005, 02:14 PM
did y'all like Beyonce and her mother's clothing line? I thought most of the stuff was real cute, but I would never be able to pay for it.

That was kind of cool that Oprah is one of the "producers" of The Color Purple. Wonder how mch tickets are. Too bad I don't live closer to NYC, I'd love to go see it.

I'm confused about something though. Ope said she made TCP in 1985, right? Well, if this is her 20th anniversary year, then she would have been hosting the talk show in 1985, right? Huh? :confused:

Excited about the bras/jeans episode on Tuesday.

Any ideas what Oprah's most watched show of all time is??

Asha
11-12-2005, 02:21 PM
she filmed the color purple right before she started the talk show, so it makes sense that they would have been in the same year, but i am pretty sure she said she filmed tcp in 1984. could be wrong, though.

southerner
11-12-2005, 02:25 PM
So, she probably got the talk show gig from being on AM Chicago and being in TCP?? That makes sense. I hope she shows a lot of those old clips in Monday's show. It was weird to see her in TCP yesterday. I haven't seen that movie (or Oprah that young/chubby/big hair, etc.) in ages.

JamBray
11-15-2005, 01:32 PM
What I was confused about with yesterday's show is that they ran a small clip from the debut of Oprah's first show, which was September 8, 1986...so, that would make this her 19th anniversary. Am I missing something? :confused:

kd 9.21.02
11-15-2005, 01:54 PM
What I was confused about with yesterday's show is that they ran a small clip from the debut of Oprah's first show, which was September 8, 1986...so, that would make this her 19th anniversary. Am I missing something? :confused:

I think this is her 20th year so they're probably "celebrating" it all year.
???
That's my guess, at least. I know businesses will celebrate their 10th anniversary during their 10th year -- so basically starting the day after their 9th anniversary.

LeslieR
11-15-2005, 02:18 PM
I think they're including her previous year(s) before the show went national.:confused:

Today's show was great. Unfortunately DH was home and kept talking to me throughout the whole epi, so I'm going to have to TiVo it in the middle of the night. I definitely need some jean help! I love that Stacy from What Not To Wear!

southerner
11-15-2005, 02:23 PM
oh yeah today is the jeans and bra episode, cool!!

JamBray
11-16-2005, 08:13 AM
I think this is her 20th year so they're probably "celebrating" it all year.
???
That's my guess, at least. I know businesses will celebrate their 10th anniversary during their 10th year -- so basically starting the day after their 9th anniversary.
Ahhh, okay, that makes sense then. Thanks kd. :)

njdiva
11-19-2005, 02:46 PM
Monday is Oprah's Favorite Things.... oooh the gifts!

southerner
11-19-2005, 03:08 PM
can I just tell y'all that I went to Nordstroms today to get fitted and there was a line of people waiting (maybe 7 or 8 people). They had all seen Oprah, it was funny.

Asha
11-19-2005, 03:44 PM
what is this about needing to get jeans fitted? please fill me in.

southerner
11-19-2005, 05:14 PM
what is this about needing to get jeans fitted? please fill me in.


no, I was getting a bra.

numberlady
11-24-2005, 04:05 AM
Tuesday's episode had me crying the whole time. The spot about the mom that was dying of cancer and left the videotapes for her daughter. I have seen that many times, but to hear her daughter, Peyton, talk about her and the letter she wrote to her "new" mom. I couldn't stop crying! What a mature young lady.

And the other spot about the guy who lost 300 pounds and Oprah gave him a Porsche. When he was talking about people not looking him in the eye and how he and Oprah connected at the moment that she gave him the car.

What an emotional episode!

houseblend
11-28-2005, 07:16 PM
Is anyone else really excited about Oprah finally appearing on Letterman? He's begged and pleaded for her on his show to appear for so long now! Even though I've mostly switched to Leno, I'll definitely be tuning in!

southerner
11-28-2005, 07:40 PM
Is anyone else really excited about Oprah finally appearing on Letterman? He's begged and pleaded for her on his show to appear for so long now! Even though I've mostly switched to Leno, I'll definitely be tuning in!

when does that air? how did you know that? I haven't watched today's show yet.

houseblend
11-28-2005, 07:59 PM
when does that air? how did you know that? I haven't watched today's show yet.

It will air Thursday, Dec. 1 (TIVO already set to go :D ). I don't think she's announcing it on her show, but Letterman has been mentioning it on his (he's very excited!). The story was so big (they've been "feuding" for some time now), that it was even on Entertainment Tonight (which I never watch but happened to catch at the right time!). (Enough parentheses in one post? :p )

kd 9.21.02
12-01-2005, 01:50 PM
Reminder... Oprah is on Letterman tonight.

southerner
12-01-2005, 06:47 PM
Reminder... Oprah is on Letterman tonight.

yes!! thanks for the reminder :D i bet it will be funny. I think Ope is funny.

misscross
12-01-2005, 08:24 PM
This is HUGE, people! Oprah going back on Letterman after years of silence due to previously feeling like the butt of his jokes...

She has a fabulous new Broadway musical to promote, she is looking younger, fit, and more beautiful than ever... time to show off!

Glad she's willing to finally "reach out." She is a great woman. Hope it goes well! I hope he's not mean to her, and if he is, I hope she has a good comeback and doesn't take herself too seriously.

Brandy
12-01-2005, 09:27 PM
I think it was a really good episode! It was a bit akward in the beginning but really nice and cute at the end! The walk was funny!

southerner
12-04-2005, 09:39 AM
I've watched some of Ope on Letterman. He has her on for a while. Wonder how her premiere for The Color Purple went??

houseblend
12-04-2005, 10:58 AM
I enjoyed her on there, too. You could tell he was really making an effort to make her feel at home and try to interest her with more serious conversation than his usual teasing banter. She seemed so surprised by his behavior. I still dont' sense she is a fan of his, but at least she gave him another try and has a bit more respect for him. I loved him walking her to her theatre!

kd 9.21.02
12-04-2005, 12:59 PM
I loved the interview and "the walk" too. Oprah looked amazing -- what a dress! I thought Letterman was great; I think he - like most people - is really in awe of her.

southerner
12-04-2005, 08:25 PM
Oprah's all repeats this week :(

southerner
12-10-2005, 08:52 AM
she's all repeats again next week :mad: :rolleyes:

houseblend
12-10-2005, 09:51 AM
She must have run out of stars to visit her show for the season. :rolleyes:

southerner
12-10-2005, 10:21 AM
She must have run out of stars to visit her show for the season. :rolleyes:

I guess she has had about half and half this season. Half of her shows have featured stars, while half have been about "real life" topics. But, in Oprah's defense, she does do well getting to the "real life" issues with some of those celebs she has on. It's not "go but this, go see that" the whole time they're on. But yes, Ope always give a pulg for them ;)

hopefully, it will pick back up at the new year. I'd like to see where all the Angel Network money is going.

Asha
12-10-2005, 12:01 PM
She must have run out of stars to visit her show for the season.

lol!!! at least, this has been good for my study habits bc i am not so tempted to watch oprah when i should be studying.

maplekitty
12-10-2005, 12:27 PM
When she was on David Letterman last Saturday she said that right after the "Colour Purple" opening she'd be going off to Africa for a short missionary trip. That's probably why this week has been all re-runs - Op's in Africa!

houseblend
12-10-2005, 02:49 PM
I forgot about that maplekitty. Good point! It is definitely admirable that she is so charitable. Southerner - That is true that her interviews with celebs aren't always about the typical Letterman/Leno banter. I just prefer more of the everyday people issues myself.

Georgiana
12-21-2005, 05:56 PM
I'm not sure if this was a re-run or not. But last Thursday, I saw an episode that featured people who have a disorder that makes them think they are super ugly. That has to be one of my favorite episodes. I was so shocked how these people (specifically the Boy and the one girl, not the freak of nature with the blonde hair) How beautiful they were and in their minds, they thought they looked hideous...

It was so sad to see that. Sometimes I think my step daugher thinks that way but it's hard to tell if that's teenage stuff or a real disorder...

Asha
12-22-2005, 07:51 AM
georgiana - i saw that show too. though, part of me couldn't help but not understand them bc they were so obviously beautiful. i just wanted to shake them and say, "you can have my looks and then you'll have something real to complain about!!." though, i know that they can't help feeling that way, it was just my gut reaction.

southerner
12-30-2005, 10:26 PM
So Oprah is repeats again this week, but a couple of them might be worth rewatching or catching if you missed them the first time around.

Monday: James Frey, author of A Million Little Pieces
Thursday: Money Makeover Tips
Friday: Look 10 pounds thinner instantly.

Just thought I'd share. I hope she has some new shows the following week :(

Asha
12-31-2005, 07:21 AM
Thursday: Money Makeover Tips

thanks southerner for filling us in! at least, dr. phil isn't repeats!

maplekitty
01-26-2006, 05:29 PM
What did people think of Op's interview with James Frey today?

I think he's just a big liar and he totally was pulling answers from his butt.

However I don't think Oprah needed to be so cross with Nan the publisher. She made some good claims about the difference in "memoires" and "autobiographies". Perhaps a fact-checker would have been a good thing, but the truth is, she believed him - however, so did Oprah in the beginning.

prudies
01-26-2006, 05:51 PM
Oh my god, I'm watching it on my dvr right now. Oprah is pah-isssed!

Linnybubbles
01-26-2006, 06:28 PM
I really love Oprah, but I felt it was more about her being embarassed and trying to redeem herself than really figuring out why he lied. I felt bad for the publisher too. I did not get it when Oprah was harping on her for the "red flags" that indicated it was a lie, after all, she believed him.

prudies
01-26-2006, 06:39 PM
I know. My feeling is - Oprah's jumped the shark.

I love Frank Rich, and I was bummed he jumped on the let's-kiss-Oprah's-ass bandwagon.

It used to be one part interesting guests, one part "just folks" Oprah and one part new age Oprah (here's what I know for sure, and all that jazz). Now it's just...OPRAH HAS SPOKEN.

Did you guys see the episode with that southern guy who had made the racist comment using the n-word ("you've got your black folks and you've got your...") on her show 20 years ago? She ripped that guy a new one, but it was pathetic! The guy was obviously not all that bright and probably very poor. Oprah is rich and brilliant! I thought, holy sh*t, Oprah just made me feel sorry for a racist!

riley
01-27-2006, 12:31 AM
i thought Oprah was going to attack and beat him down on the couch.

in a very tiny way i felt sorry for him. he didn't have much to say and didn't really try to defend himself....because he's a liar. but a rich liar thanks to oprah. no telling how many books he sold thanks to her.

southerner
01-27-2006, 04:44 AM
and selling even more again :rolleyes:

Asha
01-27-2006, 06:15 AM
I did not get it when Oprah was harping on her for the "red flags" that indicated it was a lie, after all, she believed him.
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i agree. she has her own fact checkers she could have used. i think that is part of the reason she is embarrassed bc she had the power to figure these things out but just got caught up in the emotions of the book.

msnicolea
01-27-2006, 07:43 AM
I think she was out of line--it isn't about HER. I feel very sorry for James Frey, although I know he made a HUGE mistake.

houseblend
01-27-2006, 07:44 AM
My feeling is - Oprah's jumped the shark.


I'm starting to think this as well. I just don't enjoy her shows nearly as much anymore. She's constantly interrupting people she interviews and often misses asking some key questions. I'm not connecting with her personality anymore, either.

kam
01-27-2006, 08:29 AM
Damn! I missed the interview. I read the TSG article and I must say holy crap. Had he said from the beginning "Hey, some of these things are embellished to be a story," okay. But that's not what he did at all. I'd be pissed too if he went on her show, said "I was an undercast" only to find that everything was a lie.

Please, TV gods, replay this interview.

kd 9.21.02
01-27-2006, 08:41 AM
So he made a ton of money on a fictional story that he passed off as truth.

It's cases like this when I wish there were some retroactive punishment available to take away any profit he made from readers.

prudies
01-27-2006, 08:48 AM
So he made a ton of money on a fictional story that he passed off as truth.

I think the book is based on his true story, but embellished. I wouldn't call it entirely fictional. It's not so much the details of the book that are important, more the presentation of the book as a true story.

kd 9.21.02
01-27-2006, 09:06 AM
I think the book is based on his true story, but embellished. I wouldn't call it entirely fictional. It's not so much the details of the book that are important, more the presentation of the book as a true story.

Agreed.

kam
01-27-2006, 09:14 AM
I think the book is based on his true story, but embellished. I wouldn't call it entirely fictional. It's not so much the details of the book that are important, more the presentation of the book as a true story.

The problem is that the most important parts of the book, including the girlfriend who committed suicide while he was in jail, seem to be completely fabricated. Every character is dead so they can't say "it didn't happen," but even the events were completely fabricated. I personally feel badly for the parents of the teenagers who died in the train crash. He was apparently villified for his role in the crash, and all pertinent players said, "Who is he again? Never heard of him."

It's a very long, but very interesting article in TSG: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0104061jamesfrey1.html

msnicolea
01-27-2006, 09:23 AM
Well, he said the girl DID kill herself, but not by hanging. Not sure why he felt the need to change that part of the story, but. . .

Myra
01-27-2006, 09:28 AM
The problem is that the most important parts of the book, including the girlfriend who committed suicide while he was in jail, seem to be completely fabricated. Every character is dead so they can't say "it didn't happen," but even the events were completely fabricated. I personally feel badly for the parents of the teenagers who died in the train crash. He was apparently villified for his role in the crash, and all pertinent players said, "Who is he again? Never heard of him."

He told Oprah that the girlfriend and her suicide were not fabricated. She existed, but she cut her wrists (book said hanged). It still didn't really add up, though. If he was only in jail for a half-hour and he cared so much about this girl, why wasn't he with her?

There was an interesting article in Slate about how the lies may have started. Here's a snip:
it's fairly standard for new patients to begin their stays by boasting of their fearlessness, their criminal bona fides, their extreme debauchery.

See "Picking up the Pieces" (http://www.slate.com/id/2134203/)

maplekitty
01-28-2006, 12:03 AM
I think the book is based on his true story, but embellished. I wouldn't call it entirely fictional. It's not so much the details of the book that are important, more the presentation of the book as a true story.


but the thing is, they made the book as a "memoire", not a "based on a true story". And that is where the problem is, he lied, he made up parts of the book, he changed details - not because his memeory was bad, but because I think he thought it would be more interesting. And you can't sell a book under the false guise as "memoire" and have it not be all true.

I don't think the book would have sold any less if it were "based on a true story" - because people were still moved by the story and the people. It was stupid and unethical of James to sell it as a memoire, and it was unprofesional of the publishing company to not check all their facts properly.

However, it was quite presumptious of Oprah to go after the publisher like, after all, she herself fell for the lies too in the first place. So I don't udnerstand why Oprah was making sucha big deal about the fact that the publisher didn't notice the "red flags".

prudies
01-28-2006, 05:55 AM
I totally agree with you, maplekitty. I was just saying that I wouldn't call it a work of fiction exactly, since it is partly true. But yeah, I agree the author is extremely unethical.

And yes, Oprah's going after the publisher is just another example of how sanctimonious she's become!

nylons73
01-28-2006, 06:37 AM
I wish I could have seen this episode! I purposely did not watch because I thought she was going to continue to kiss his butt (like she did when he was on Larry King.) Now that I hear that she ripped him a new one, I really hope I get to see that!

I don't get people feeling sorry for James Frey. I'm sorry but I just don't get that sentiment at all. This is a man who sold the SECOND MOST books in the United States last year! (behind Harry Potter.) Oprah has made him a millionaire. He went on her show and acted as if the entire book was his TRUE LIFE STORY! WTF? He sat there and lied right to her face! This is way more than a case of 'embellishing the truth.'

Frey - "I am wanted in three states."

Truth - Frey is currently wanted in no states.

Frey - wrote he was in jail for 3 months and befriended an inmate there whom he read classic works of literature to across the bars. Also wrote that he was hit in the face with a lunch tray as a retaliation against him by an Ohio police officer.

Truth - Frey was 'detained' at a police station for a few hours before a buddy came and bailed him out. There was no 'story time' with an inmate buddy, no 'lunch tray' incident. Nothing. Consequently - There also no dealing with a mob boss (while he was in rehab) to get him out of his court trouble, because he wasn't in any court trouble.

Frey - had 2 root canals WITHOUT the use of novicane.

Truth- President of the Dental Association of Minnesota (where Frey claims he had this done) came out to say that no dentist would EVER do this kind of procedure without novicane. Frey admitted to Oprah that this was not factual.

I just can't figure out why a man who made millions of dollars by lying to people is worthy of my sympathy??? GO OPRAH!!

laura
01-28-2006, 05:34 PM
I just watched this show via Tivo and I thought Oprah's "poor me" routine was amusing. At least, though, she was honest and she said it wasn't sad, it was embarrassing for her. That said, I don't feel bad for James Frey, but I *do* think O went WAY overboard in having this whole show to basically do PR for herself. Honestly, what was gained by the show? I did think the whole thing was basically her saying "I am *OPRAH* - you don't do this to *OPRAH*!!" and that got tiresome after awhile.

However what I did want to respond to was her interaction w/ the publisher. I think she could have been more diplomatic or professional, but I do agree with Oprah (gasp!) in some responspibility lying with the publisher/editor. IMO, it isn't enough that the editor believed the story - it just isn't. I mean maybe that's why she would initially select the story to be published by her publishing house, but that isn't why you blindly run it to print. That is actually a pretty clear indication of her not doing her job very well, IMO.

I haven't read the book, so I don't know how implausible the story is, but even so, no publishing house should go to print with a book they haven't thoroughly checked out. ITA w/ the guy who said a fact-checker could have uncovered the truth in a half hour, and one should have. I think that would have changed the entire outcome here - either the publishing company would have walked away from the story or at the very least it would have been marketed "based on a true story" rather than a "memoir". I read a lot, and those 2 things are distinctly different to me, as they should be.

Honestly, I felt bad for James Frey for a second when she was going off on him (because it was an obvious O stunt to try to make herself come out better that I didn't think was remotely necessary), but I don't now for 2 reasons. #1 - His reactions; it didn't seem like he was even being honest with her on the show, even though he claimed he was "coming clean". I believe that must have been a very challenging situation for him, but he agreed to do the show, so I feel he should have been bettered prepared to clear up the discrepancies, and I don't feel like he did that very well. #2 - He has been purposely deceiving people for years in promotion of this book. We know nothing about him - who's to say that the publisher didn't ask questions re: follow-up which he was instrumental in misleading? Obviously he never told them at any point that part of the story was "embellished", which means he was actively lying. I didn't see the first Oprah show he did promoting the book, but my friend did and she said he was pretty compelling talking about his time in jail, etc, etc. To me that goes beyond just 'embellishing' a story - you are actively lying over the long-term essentially just for personal gain. Even on the show the other day, he tried to make it seem like he changed facts to 'protect' the people in the story, but that's obviously a blatant untruth.

Honestly, in seeing O's reactions to JF, I can see why some people feel bad for him. She seriously acted like he killed a puppy right in front of her and showed no remorse for it. I understand what he did was wrong, but I think she could have used an ounce of perspective in her reaction. She even showed a news clip where a reporter from the NYT said Oprah should essentially kick JF's ass, and then they cut to Oprah where she gave an ingratiating smile - totally over the top and unnecessary.

Asha
01-29-2006, 05:04 AM
She seriously acted like he killed a puppy right in front of her and showed no remorse for it.

i just got the 20th anniversary cd collection. woo hoo!! anyways, she was nicer to the women prisoners who had killed their own children than to a guy who lied in a book.

sdianems
01-29-2006, 10:24 AM
Coming out of lurking to chime in here.....I watched a CNN show about this "incident" after Oprah's live show and everyone there agreed:

OW was responding to the enormous amount of bad/negative press her initial call to the Larry King show was getting, especially on her ON website's chat boards. The consensus was that, strictly from a "branding" position, she had no choice but to address this.
Very interesting take on it all, and I have to say that it certainly makes alot of sense.

Given all of that, the only thing I have to say about JF is that why on earth would anyone believe anything a junkie says? Having personal experiences with addict(s), I take absolutely everything that comes out of their mouths with a grain of salt.....

laura
01-29-2006, 10:39 AM
I guess to me addressing the issue and what she did are 2 entirely different things. But that's obviously just my opinion.

southerner
02-10-2006, 02:36 PM
Did y'all hear that Oprah is getting her own radio station on XM Radio?

Adaya
02-10-2006, 02:47 PM
I read it earlier on Yahoo. Interesting....

lawyerlee
02-10-2006, 02:55 PM
Honestly, in seeing O's reactions to JF, I can see why some people feel bad for him. She seriously acted like he killed a puppy right in front of her and showed no remorse for it. I understand what he did was wrong, but I think she could have used an ounce of perspective in her reaction. She even showed a news clip where a reporter from the NYT said Oprah should essentially kick JF's ass, and then they cut to Oprah where she gave an ingratiating smile - totally over the top and unnecessary.
LOL, she really did. If she wanted to gripe him out for embarrassing her, she could have at least done so in private. :(

PatsyGirl
02-10-2006, 04:15 PM
Did y'all hear that Oprah is getting her own radio station on XM Radio?

I read that too. Gayle's getting her own show too. Honestly, what would Gayle do if she didn't have Oprah?

Asha
02-10-2006, 04:17 PM
I read that too. Gayle's getting her own show too. Honestly, what would Gayle do if she didn't have Oprah?

you mean her own show on the xm channel. it's not exactly her own show bc it sounds like it is going to be tape recordings of oprah and gayle's nightly chit chats to each other over the phone. also, i think oprah feels like gayle has helped her out a lot too bc of her support throughout the years.

Adaya
02-10-2006, 06:08 PM
Gayle's not getting her own show. O and all of her "friends"....Bob Greene, Dr. Oz, Gayle, Nate Berkus and a a few others will all have different days or segments off this Oprah and Friends radio show. So it's like a joint kinda thingy. Here's a link to a description of it on her website. She talked it about it and made the official announcement on her show today.

Oprah on XM Radio (http://www2.oprah.com/presents/2006/xm/xm_main.jhtml)

JLRenheos
03-05-2006, 06:48 AM
Just had to share......

In the March 2006 issue of O magazine, there is an article about Michelle Kingsfield from the Ohio area. She is a local newsreporter who was diagnosed with non-hodgkins lymphoma while pregnant. The article is on page 141.

Good friends of ours who are friends of Michelle Kingsfield, put together this cookbook called 'Reporting the Local Meals'. I have one at home and love it!

Michelle Kingsfield was featured on GMA a few times last year, and thats probably where the Oprah crew saw her story and decided to share her story in this month's issue of the 'O' magazine.

Since the March issue came out, our friends have had to order more cookbooks. So far, the website has been hit over 200 times with orders! Our friends have created the website & are up and running it. I think it is great that they mentioned K.W. in the article too - she is also a very sweet person! BTW, there are some great recipies in the cookbook, as I have a few in there also!

Inside the cookbook, the dedication says, "This cookbook is dedicated to Michelle Edgerley Kingsfield and her family. Michelle is recognized as a prominent part of the Dayton community with her work as a news anchor for ABC's channel 22 and Fox 45. She was diagnosed with a rare form on Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma in November of 2004 and is presently undergoing treatment while also being pregnant with her second child. This cookbook was brought into existence by the outpouring of neighbors, friends, and colleagues who all wanted to do something for this kind and special woman who has done so much for all the people around her. We are utterly amazed by Michelle's strength and perserverance through this particular hurdle in her life. Michelle is a role model and an inspiration to us all."

Michelle Kingsfield is doing great & now has a healthy son one year later!

Here's the website:www.michellescookbook.com It is through Paypal.

imagirliegirl
03-06-2006, 02:11 PM
Did y'all see Reese Witherspoon on the show today? Ack I just love her!! She's so beautiful and gracious. And what she said about her daughter was so cute!

kam
03-06-2006, 02:21 PM
That was so funny - kids really bring you down to earth, huh?

sarahh
03-06-2006, 03:39 PM
SHoot...I forgot to TiVo it. If anyone knows where I can see the Reese segment online let me know! ;)

Regina Phalange
03-08-2006, 01:58 PM
Did anyone else see the show today? First, I want to see that movie and secondly, Hello! I love James Blunt!!! Seriously cried listening to his second song! Amazing music!!

and he is a funny guy.

tinkerbelljenny
03-08-2006, 05:17 PM
I missed the part where they were going to say who James Blunt wrote that beautiful song about. Anyone know?

vjel
03-08-2006, 05:21 PM
the first song was written about his ex-girlfriend, i believe. the 2nd song, i don't think they said. he's got a great voice but gawd were those songs depressing! lol

Jill1228
03-23-2006, 01:12 AM
OMG! I am so in love with him! I wish I woulda discovered him earlier. I ran out and bought his CD. Found out that in about a week and a half that he is coming to Seattle and Vancouver...both shows are sold out! :(

ETA: I HAVE to see him. I bit the bullet and scored 4th row seats. It better be worth it!

Did anyone else see the show today? First, I want to see that movie and secondly, Hello! I love James Blunt!!! Seriously cried listening to his second song! Amazing music!!

and he is a funny guy.

Janey
03-24-2006, 04:52 PM
Is anyone else as completely fascinated by this Debt Diet as I am?

I love the family from Houston who never cooked, and is all of a sudden reclaiming their family with home cooked meals.

Adaya
03-24-2006, 05:27 PM
The Debt Diet is very interesting. I've learned a few things myself.

These families they are following are also learning a lot. I like that they are learning more than just financial things. They are coming together as a family and working together more.

Janey
03-24-2006, 06:19 PM
I hope they'll come back with these families after they're out of debt and do another series called: Now What? That's the one I really need. I love all of these get out of debt plans... it makes me so motivated to spend less money and save!! But I don't really know what the next step is.

Southlooper
03-26-2006, 07:17 AM
Help me understand this...

I too am facinated with the Debt Diet programs. But there is something troubling me about the Oprah's shows on financial responsibility. One of the financial advisors was quoted as saying, "Keeping up with the Jones doesn't mean just your neighbors, but also celebraties." Then she went on to say something about it's not realistic to try to obtain that lifestyle.

So here's my question, here is Oprah, THE richest in the world, on the one hand telling people to stay in control of thier money, then turning around and featuring makeover shows that feature VERY expensive clothes, furniture and such (don't get me started on the favorite things segments.)

Isn't this like telling an an alcoholic to go to AA, then inviting them to a cocktail party?

southerner
03-26-2006, 07:50 AM
[B]Isn't this like telling an an alcoholic to go to AA, then inviting them to a cocktail party?
not exactly. Not all of Oprah's viewers (including myself) are in debt, but are still finding the info helpful and reinforces what I already know/do. Also, as for the makeover shows, some of her viewers can afford that stuff and some can't. Maybe she's hoping that of the viewers who can't afford that stuff, they are able to take other ideas fro those shows. I'm sure I'm giving her too much credit, but she has a very diverse audience to try and reach.

prudies
03-26-2006, 08:52 AM
Isn't this like telling an an alcoholic to go to AA, then inviting them to a cocktail party?

Hee hee. I suppose a little, but in addition to what southerner said, these people are buying like 400 pairs of the expensive jeans instead of just one, kwim?

I watched some of the debt diet shows, but for the most part these people are so out of control I can't relate! It's not like I can trade in a rented piano for extra cash or anything. And though I go to the grocery store with a list, I can't quite bring a calculator and also entertain my toddler at the same time.

Mrs. Hill What exactly do you mean - tips for saving? Investing?

Southlooper
03-26-2006, 03:31 PM
Yeah, I see your point. I guess because I've been hearing so much about the enormous amounts of debt Americans are in that it seemed counter productive to follow these financial shows on the virtues of Jimmy Choo shoes.

But then again, Oprah has a diverse audience . Oprah or not, temptaion will always be there. Part of the journey to financial (or any other) health is to become immune to that which can pull you down.

I hope they'll come back with these families after they're out of debt and do another series called: Now What? That's the one I really need. I love all of these get out of debt plans... it makes me so motivated to spend less money and save!! But I don't really know what the next step is.

Yes it would be nice to see the beyond success stories.

Janey
03-26-2006, 06:43 PM
Mrs. Hill What exactly do you mean - tips for saving? Investing?
Yes and Yes. :) The financial people on the show are doing such a great job showing people how to get out of debt... I would just like to see them take it a little further, and not just get out of debt, but to actually save and have a nice little investment portfolio.

jeanine
03-27-2006, 04:22 AM
Was anyone else irked by the fact that the one family got REALLY expensive kitchen stuff, so they can "cook" at home. WTF! Did they really need an $800 set of All Clad, and top of the line appliances???? I thought the point of this debt diet was to show that you don't need to keep up with the Jones, and if you can't afford it, you don't get it. Instead, I learned the lesson that Oprah will just give thousands of dollars of free stuff, and reward people for making such a mess of their finances.

Janey
03-27-2006, 07:18 AM
Actually, I looked at it like, "For all of the money you are spending on that craptastic fast food, you could have top-of-the-line cooking equipment and make yourself something better than you can get at any restaurant." I bet all that gear cost right about what she was spending on a week of food.

southerner
04-07-2006, 10:54 PM
Did Oprah show another debt diet show today? Was it a repeat or a follow up?

jeepgirl
04-08-2006, 06:25 AM
I'm pretty sure it was a follow up.

Asha
04-08-2006, 06:35 AM
it wasn't a repeat. it was a follow up. basically, they showed some people who were inspired by her debt diet program and started cutting their own debt.

key points
bring in extra income
make your teenagers get a job
always pay yourself first (10% of your take home pay should go into some sort of investment for retirement)
a break down of a monthly budget
switch high interest credit card debt to low interest credit cards (this actually works bc that's one way i got rid of my debt quickly.)

southerner
04-08-2006, 10:55 AM
thanks asha! I actually thought my TIVO didn't get it, but it did. I will watch it this weekend. Did she feature any of the families that we had seen before? How are they doing?

Asha
04-08-2006, 12:14 PM
yes she did feature all of the families.

the one with teenage girls is doing really well. they don't fight about money anymore, and the two girls started taking more responsibility and stopped asking their parents for money. the older one started working more hours and the younger one started babysitting.

the one with the gazillion luxury cars is also doing well. the wife took on a job, and she is happy that the dh is handling the finances. they sold a couple of their cars to get one car - a ford explorer. :rolleyes: not really a moneysaver in my book bc of being a gas guzzler.

the teacher family is doing well, but i am not really surprised bc they seemed the most responsible of the bunch. the ended up getting a lot back in tax returns and the dh is taking on some extra work.

sarahncraig
04-13-2006, 10:22 AM
I apologize if this has already been posted. But what do y'all make of this? It really hit me wrong. Opinions?

Oprah Winfrey is richer than you

During a speech on Monday at a Baltimore fundraiser for Beth Tfiloh Dahan Community School, Oprah Winfrey talked about how rich she was and how fantastic it was. Seriously.

"I have lots of things, like all these Manolo Blahniks. I have all that and I think it's great. I'm not one of those people like, 'Well, we must renounce ourselves.' No, I have a closet full of shoes and it's a good thing. I was coming back from Africa on one of my trips. I had taken one of my wealthy friends with me. She said, 'Don't you just feel guilty? Don't you just feel terrible?' I said, 'No, I don't. I do not know how me being destitute is going to help them.' Then I said when we got home, 'I'm going home to sleep on my Pratesi sheets right now and I'll feel good about it.' "

Source: thesuperficial.com (http://www.thesuperficial.com/archives/2006/04/12/oprah_winfrey_is_richer_than_y.html)

kd 9.21.02
04-13-2006, 11:45 AM
I see her point. Even if she gives up everything she has, she won't rid the world of poverty of devastation.

That said, I don't like the tone. So sarahncraig, I'm with you. It hits me wrong as well.

Asha
04-13-2006, 11:48 AM
she does often talk about how rich she is even in her own show. i think she is just proud of where she is now compared to where she came from and that she earned it all herself. though, i do think it is extremely tacky when people drop names like that. ewwwww.

my grandmother used to make all her children clear their plates for dinner bc she would tell her children about all the starving children in africa. though, i told her something that made her change her mind about that. i said, "it's still wasteful to eat something you don't need to eat just for the sake of clearing your plate of food."

Adaya
05-23-2006, 08:11 PM
Did anyone catch today's show? Anderson Cooper was on and he was talking about his life and his career. And his mother, Gloria Vanderbilt was there also. She frightened me.....the picture really doesn't do it any jusitce. It was worse on television.

Can you say too much botox or a bad plastic surgery job? :eek:

http://images.oprah.com/images/tows/200605/20060523/20060523_104_284x218.jpg

vjel
05-23-2006, 08:15 PM
I saw the show today too. Yeah, what is up w/ Gloria? VERY scary.

BsstGrl
05-24-2006, 09:38 AM
That was odd to me too. I've read that she's 81 or 82 years old and for that age you need to have some lines on your face. Very scary!

On the topic though, I love Anderson Cooper and now want to get his book to read it!

Rose
05-24-2006, 10:48 AM
Did anyone catch today's show? Anderson Cooper was on and he was talking about his life and his career. And his mother, Gloria Vanderbilt was there also. She frightened me.....the picture really doesn't do it any jusitce. It was worse on television.

Wow, how did I not know that she was his mother? That's very interesting. And yes she looks bad. There is something really odd going on around her mouth.

jeepgirl
05-24-2006, 11:41 AM
While it is obvious that her plastic surgery may not have been the greatest, if she is 81 or 82, in my opinion, she doesn't look all that bad (yes I realize the two sides of her face are not symmetrical). They say you can tell a person's true age by their neck, and really, her neck doesn't look all that bad either. I have NEVER seen a facelift that looked natural. My great aunt and uncle both got one, and I think they look awful, and compared to others I've seen, theirs have been the best.

southerner
09-14-2006, 06:31 PM
Her new season starts next week. I haven't seen/heard about any show topics. Have y'all?

docoNY
09-15-2006, 08:07 PM
I just heard Jim McGreevy - the former NJ governor will be on 1 episode.. he has a book coming out

thanks for the reminder - have to check the DVR to make sure it will record next week

numberlady
09-16-2006, 03:13 AM
Her website says this:
Monday - Oprah and Gayle's Big Adventure - It's our season premiere! Two best friends on the ride of their lives---11 days and 3,600 miles from L.A. to N.Y. What was Oprah thinking? Now this is reality TV.
Tuesday - First Interview: Former Governor Jim McGreevey, His Gay Sex Scandal - For the first time, former New Jersey Governor Jim McGreevey talks about his gay affair. And, the blackmail threat he says exposed it all. Get the first look at his explosive new book.

The rest of the week looks like reruns with Eva Longoria, Jon Bon Jovi (when he gives her $1m for her angel network), Matthew McConaughey and a "burning questions show".

kd 9.21.02
09-20-2006, 01:43 PM
We saw Oprah during her "Big Adventure" cross-country tour in a Chevy at the Wynn in Las Vegas so I'm just dying to see the episode when they show the gals in Vegas. Can someone please post if/when that runs? Has it already?

juliemag
09-20-2006, 01:48 PM
We saw Oprah during her "Big Adventure" cross-country tour in a Chevy at the Wynn in Las Vegas so I'm just dying to see the episode when they show the gals in Vegas. Can someone please post if/when that runs? Has it already?

Part 1 aired on Monday's show. They showed the portion that you are talking about.

Adaya
09-20-2006, 03:56 PM
That show with Gayle was pretty funny. It was pretty cool and very funny to see O and Gayle arguing and fighting over the radio, and getting lost trying to find a grocery store in Las Vegas. Speaking of Vegas, I thought it was hilarious when they called themselves going to an impersonator's convention and they thought they were going to go as impersonators of themselves, but it didn't work. How funny!!

Interesting thing....Oprah is truly a brat and throws tantrums when she can't have her way. She was cracking Gayle and the producers up when she kept saying, "I'm practicing patience, I'm practicing patience." And then she'd start yelling. I mean I can't really talk b/c I'm a brat too. ;)

But I thought the show was cute, and it seems they will be showing this big adventure in installments for at least a couple of weeks.

prudies
09-20-2006, 04:05 PM
The McGreevy episode was riveting. That guy is weird. He's totally gay, but completely a schmoozy politician at the same time! Okay, I'm not explaining it very well, but it was just odd to hear someone talk about gay sex in a politican voice. Barney Frank is a gay politician, but he doesn't have the politician cheesey voice, kwim? Anyone?

Interesting thing....Oprah is truly a brat and throws tantrums when she can't have her way. She was cracking Gayle and the producers up when she kept saying, "I'm practicing patience, I'm practicing patience." And then she'd start yelling. Hee, yeah. Although, at least she admits it. I like that about Oprah. I just don't like when she lectures her guests about what they should do with their lives, and they're like some poor son of a bitch, and she's got about 300 spiritual advisers. I hope she isn't as self-righteous this season, because I like her when she's good. I thought she was pretty matter-of-fact with McGreevy.

southerner
10-24-2006, 02:39 PM
Madonna is on tomorrow (Wednesday).

Adaya
11-13-2006, 05:31 PM
Did anyone see the show last week about Challenge Day? Here's a little blurb about it:

Oprah didn’t believe it would work until she saw it with her own eyes. She’s not kidding when she says this could change the world! Go inside a daring experiment as 64 teens are transformed through confrontation, heartache, confession and even forgiveness. It is a show that you and your family cannot miss.

I just got around to watching it. It was such a good show. What an amazing set of exercises for the students to do. So many schools and their students could benefit from this kind of program.

I remember doing something a bit similar to this my freshman year in college. It wasn't as emotional. It was more of an icebreaker/fun type of thing, but it made us more aware of how alike we really were. It made us a more unified class throughout our 4 years together.

JamBray
11-14-2006, 09:06 AM
I just watched it last night Adaya, and thought that it was so powerful. To be able to change the kids like that, and make them see that they're all just people going through a lot of the same struggles and pain was amazing.

It's so great that this and programs like it are out there, and I hope they continue to make a difference.

seattleguamgirl
02-27-2007, 08:06 AM
Did anyone catch the Oprah special on her new Leadership Academy in South Africa last night? I thought the girls they chose were amazing...I cannot believe all the pain and suffering they have been through. I hope we'll be able to follow them through their years at the Academy.

jeepgirl
02-27-2007, 08:18 AM
I saw part of it, and "recorded" the rest I did not have time to watch. I was in tears, and so inspired, with the part I did see. We are so spoiled over here in this country!

Islandbride1025
02-27-2007, 08:23 AM
I watched and was blown away. I cried and cried. All of those girls were so beautiful and strong. I'm tearing up just thinking about them.

I am happy she chose them all and none got turned away.

Adaya
02-27-2007, 02:09 PM
I saw the show about the Leadership Academy, and it was wonderful. Each of those young ladies had something special and unique. They were so eager and determined to learn and just absorb everything they could if they just had the chance.

This school is their opportunity. And it's not just an opportunity to change their lives, but the lives of their children and their children's children. I just kept thinking how attending this school has just changed the outcome of their lives forever. It's wonderful what Oprah is going through this school.

LeslieR
09-11-2007, 01:49 PM
Anyone watching Oprah today? She's doing a 9/11 show from NY.

It looks like she's gained some weight again. I stopped watching last year or the year before, so I could be off, but she looks a little heavy.

Liz
09-11-2007, 01:53 PM
I am watching. The show is really moving.

ausi2b
09-12-2007, 07:06 AM
I heard a rumor on the radio this morning that she and Stedman broke up, and she has paid him $250 million to keep quiet. Anyone else hear this?

WestieMomma
09-12-2007, 09:07 AM
It looks like she's gained some weight again. I stopped watching last year or the year before, so I could be off, but she looks a little heavy.


I thought the same thing..only saw the show w/Dave Letterman but I thought she looked heavier but it could have been what she was wearing and her makeup was awful-way too heavy..it really looked like stage makeup! Maybe they did it that way since she wasn't in her regular studio.

Adaya
09-12-2007, 09:14 AM
I heard a rumor on the radio this morning that she and Stedman broke up, and she has paid him $250 million to keep quiet. Anyone else hear this?

I read it too...from the Inquirer. So I don't know how much truth is in it, but the rumor is out there nonetheless.

Janey
09-12-2007, 09:19 AM
I don't think that rumor is true. She was just talking about how she had photos of Stedman on her desk. If it were true, she probably wouldn't have mentioned it at all.

Adaya
09-13-2007, 01:43 PM
Did anyone catch today's show? The guests were the families of Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman. Also, prosecutors Marcia Clark and Christopher Darden were also on the show. The Goldmans now have the rights to that book OJ wrote and was going to publish. At first they were against publishing it and now that they have the rights, they are going to publish it and give the profits from the proceeds (17 cents) to the Ron Goldman foundation. There was quite a bit more, but I just wanted to see if anyone saw the show.

If you saw it, any thoughts?

rene'
09-13-2007, 04:12 PM
Well, I have to admit, there is something about Ron Goldman's dad that rubs me the wrong way. He always has and I can't put my finger on it. I think it's wrong that they would say how despicable (sp) the book was and how no one should read it, but then they would publish it themselves. As they told Oprah, it's not about the money, they wanted to keep him from making money on it. Well, they won the rights to the book which kept him from publishing it, why did they have to publish it?

I don't know, I feel sorry for the Brown's as they didn't want this book to be published.

It's just a sad situation all the way around, 13 years later.....

laura
09-13-2007, 05:00 PM
Well I think it depends on who you listen to. A lot of people argue that the Browns don't want it published b/c they aren't in on the $ it makes. But I think it is terrible/tacky all around to publish that trash.

Did anyone see yesterday w/ what's her name, the woman who shot her pastor husband? Did she seem completely devoid of original thought or feeling to anyone else? Is she HIGHLY medicated? She showed basically zero emotion the whole show - it was just *weird*.

Adaya
09-13-2007, 05:01 PM
I feel the same way rene'. I just didn't see their point in publishing the book now after they were so adamant about it being so terrible before. They said they read it and all that jazz, is it not still terrible? I just don't get it.

diam124
09-13-2007, 05:18 PM
I have always had a lot of sympathy for Ron Goldman's father, but I was really, really surprised when I heard that he decided to publish it. It just doesn't make sense to me.

Sage
09-14-2007, 07:44 AM
Did anyone see yesterday w/ what's her name, the woman who shot her pastor husband? Did she seem completely devoid of original thought or feeling to anyone else? Is she HIGHLY medicated? She showed basically zero emotion the whole show - it was just *weird*.

I watched it and I totally agree. I really can't believe she got off so easily. I don't know, but a lot of the stuff she said didn't make sense. Like how on the one hand, she was terrified to leave him, but then earlier she said they had talked about divorce and he had brought it up. :confused: And then the whole stripper shoes and wig thing...I'm sorry, but that just doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me. And Oprah even asked her if she said no, and she said something like "well, not in the heat of the moment. :confused: I really don't think she should get her kids back. She just seems like a ticking time bomb that's already exploded once, and who knows if she will again.

Regarding the Goldman's, it did kind of click with me when the sister (is that who she is?) said that it had a lot to do with OJ's comments that he wouldn't ever work to pay them money, that he'd just play golf all day. And that by planning for and writing this book, he had worked, and all that hard work would go to pay the Goldman's even if it was just 17 cents per book. After she said that, I kind of understood. I think it must be maddening to see his smug face and his arrogant comments, and I think they're doing this to stick it to him. I really, really wish they could find a way to move on, though.

rene'
09-14-2007, 09:34 AM
Did you see the part where Oprah asked them if publishing this book had given them any peace or if they will ever find any peace and Kim Goldman told Oprah that it was insulting for her to insinuate that they would ever have peace. Oprah was taken aback by it and told her that she wasn't trying to insult them. Anyway, I don't think Oprah appreciated that comment.

On a side note, it was kind of interesting to see Marcia Clark and Christopher Darden again.

Adaya
09-14-2007, 10:05 AM
Did you see the part where Oprah asked them if publishing this book had given them any peace or if they will ever find any peace and Kim Goldman told Oprah that it was insulting for her to insinuate that they would ever have peace. Oprah was taken aback by it and told her that she wasn't trying to insult them. Anyway, I don't think Oprah appreciated that comment.



Yeah, I don't think Oprah appreciated that at all b/c she mentioned it a little later on in the show. I don't think she was trying to insult them by asking that question. It wasn't like she was assuming they would ever find peace. I think that's why she was asking if they ever would. And even her tone didn't seem insulting.

But, I'm not in the Goldmans' shoes, so guess that was pretty touchy for them.

Speaking of the them, they were on the Today Show this morning, and Meredith Viera asked them or maybe mentioned whether or not they would find peace and Kim Goldman kinda rolled her eyes. The whole interview was kinda off-putting because in the beginning Fred Goldman was saying something and I think Meredith thought he was done. And he interruped her kind of in a snarky way and said "excuse me" and continued his point. Meredith looked kinda funny like, "sheesh".

diam124
09-14-2007, 10:11 AM
You know, I really feel for the Goldman family and I thank my lucky stars that I have never had a family member murdered and have never had to deal with the anger and grief that goes along with it. That said, I get the impression that Fred Goldman has let his life be taken over with his need to get back at OJ. I think he absolutely decided to publish the book to stick it to OJ. I read that he made the "If" in the title of the book purposely small on the cover, so it looks like "I did it". Now, I probably would also be consumed with bitterness and hatred if I were in the same situation, so I can't really blame them for that.

It just seems that they overlooked the whole idea that the profits truly are blood money.

I also read that the majority of the book picks on Nicole. I feel particularly sorry for her family in that case since they didn't really get a say in whether or not the book was published.

Adaya
09-14-2007, 10:22 AM
I also read that the majority of the book picks on Nicole. I feel particularly sorry for her family in that case since they didn't really get a say in whether or not the book was published.

Oprah addressed that also and so did Meredith Viera and they said they are really sorry about that, but this was more about taking money out of OJ's pocket and making sure that he didn't make millions off of this book. Those are their words, not mine. Denise Brown said that this book has really upset her and her family and it's a shame it's being published after the public really spoke up and said that it shouldn't be.

Then it was asked, "Why didn't they just sit on it and not publish the book once they got the rights? They said that publishing it was a stipulation of getting the rights or something like that. Didn't make sense to me, but that's the way they made it sound in so many words.

LeslieR
09-14-2007, 06:13 PM
I taped the Goldman show overnight last night and missed at least 15 minutes of the end because freaking Jimmy Kimmel ran over. argh! I didn't get to hear Denise Brown's take at all.

I have to say, listening to them speak-it totally made sense to me why they are publishing the book. I admit, I want to read it.

I had forgotten how much evidence there was against him-it's still amazing after all these years that he got away with it.

angel17
09-16-2007, 01:15 PM
In the back of the latest O magazine Oprah shares that she's recently been dealing with Hyper & (the other kind of ) thyroid issue - the first type people normally lose weight (she didn't) then the other kind where you gain (which she has). She took the entire month of July off to rest.

I still believe the Goldman's are so focused on getting revenge they will never get peace & that's why they are offended when people bring up the obvious to them. They are choosing to reside in a hell of their making and by holding on are giving OJ continued power over their lives.

I have no intention of reading the book and honestly believe Oprah (& others) shouldn't even have given it the time of day. Her saying she has no intention of reading it isn't enough IMO.

jeepgirl
09-16-2007, 08:04 PM
In the back of the latest O magazine Oprah shares that she's recently been dealing with Hyper & (the other kind of ) thyroid issue - the first type people normally lose weight (she didn't) then the other kind where you gain (which she has). She took the entire month of July off to rest.


Do you mean hyperthyroid and hypothyroid?


I still believe the Goldman's are so focused on getting revenge they will never get peace & that's why they are offended when people bring up the obvious to them. They are choosing to reside in a hell of their making and by holding on are giving OJ continued power over their lives.


Well said.