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sarahh
09-15-2005, 03:36 PM
That was quick!Five months after their beachside wedding, Renée Zellweger and country singer Kenny Chesney are having their marriage annulled, PEOPLE has learned.
The couple were married May 9 in a sunset ceremony on St. John in the Virgin Islands before 35 close family and friends. It was the first marriage for both.
No further details about the couple's split were available.
Click here (http://people.aol.com/people/articles/0,19736,1105707,00.html) for more info.
IrishMeg
09-15-2005, 03:46 PM
I know this is stupid but they were only married 4 months not 5 months. Why can't they do the math?
How sad for both of them. I wonder why it's an anullment and not a divorce?
cocopops
09-15-2005, 04:22 PM
whaaaa already :eek: :rolleyes:
Well maybe he was a little to country and she was a little to rock and roll... OKAY SORRY I know that was lame but hey O WELL :D
Regina Phalange
09-15-2005, 04:29 PM
Didn't we all know this was coming? I just figured they'd try to wait a little longer than 4 months. Now Kenny can regain some of his female fan base. Ha!
lawyergirl25
09-15-2005, 04:29 PM
Too bad! I thought they were cute.
kris97
09-15-2005, 04:38 PM
hmmm... usually they reserve annullment for things like, we were drunk, or I didn't realize my husband was actually a woman.... I wonder what the reason is. :)
msnicolea
09-15-2005, 04:43 PM
I move for a Constitutional Amendment prohibiting celebrities from getting married without a 6 months waiting period, post-engagement.
msnicolea
09-15-2005, 04:44 PM
hmmm... usually they reserve annullment for things like, we were drunk, or I didn't realize my husband was actually a woman.... I wonder what the reason is. :)
Kenny's filing on the grounds that Renee won't stop pursing her pouty lips all the time. ;)
houseblend
09-15-2005, 04:50 PM
whaaaa already :eek: :rolleyes:
Well maybe he was a little to country and she was a little to rock and roll... OKAY SORRY I know that was lame but hey O WELL :D
Hee..hee....That is funny! :D
I saw an interview with him a couple months back. Somehow I wasn't getting the feeling he was overly into her, but I can't remember why I got that impression. Bummer - I really like her!
southerner
09-15-2005, 05:05 PM
I move for a Constitutional Amendment prohibiting celebrities from getting married without a 6 months waiting period, post-engagement.
I second that motion.....
mrs_pell
09-15-2005, 05:05 PM
:( That didn't last long at all!
Here's a little more from Eonline (http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,17375,00.html?tnews)
By late July, E! Online columnist Ted Casablanca was reporting on buzz that had the newlyweds splitting up. At the time, Ryder told Casablanca, "I just saw her [Zellweger], and I'm sure it's not true."
Last week, Britain's Daily Mail estimated that Zellweger and Chesney had spent 15 days together since their wedding. Caught by the newspaper on the red carpet for the London premiere of Cinderella Man, Zellweger, who attended the event solo, batted away rumors of a marriage in swift decline.
"I'm happily married," Zellweger said, per the paper, "but I don't talk about it because I want to keep my precious things precious."
Word of their pending annulment was first reported Thursday afternoon by People magazine.
Spellbound
09-15-2005, 05:25 PM
I move for a Constitutional Amendment prohibiting celebrities from getting married without a 6 months waiting period, post-engagement.
Love it msnicolea! Only I extend that period to one year. Jeebus, et tu Renee?
lawyerlee
09-15-2005, 05:35 PM
Jesus mouse. What lameasses. :rolleyes:
thedoorchick
09-15-2005, 05:43 PM
That's too bad. When I first heard they were together, I thought it was crazy; then it occurred to me that while she's become glam in recent years, she's probably still a small town TX girl at heart.
Bummer. :(
LeslieandPaul
09-15-2005, 06:04 PM
I for one am totally shocked. I mean, they dated like, a whole month before they got married-it was a marriage that was meant to last :D :p
Oh, I feel so clever right now.
Sophia
09-15-2005, 08:25 PM
Gee, how shocking. :rolleyes:
She must have finally seen him without his hat. :p
KaliLily
09-15-2005, 08:31 PM
Just more proof that it's celebrities who are destroying the sanctity of marriage.
In addition to the amendment mentioned above, can we get something on the books that celebrities have to run names for their children by a non-celebrity panel?
wendalah
09-15-2005, 08:37 PM
I have a secret suspicion this has something to do with deep, dark, undocumented Jack White drama. Think about it. They broke up abruptly and suddenly she's marrying Kenny. Then, just as suddenly after that, Jack's marrying Karen Elson.
I bet Jack ditches Karen and he and Renee end up together. Stooopid but admittedly fascinating.
Isn't an anullment granted only if the marriage isn't consumated?
I'm a Kenny fan (and a fanclub member) and of course things over there are crazy, just like when they got married. Gosh, I just don't get some his fans.
Aug2002Bride
09-15-2005, 09:03 PM
LOS ANGELES - Bridget Jones is untying the knot. Renee Zellweger, who played the lovelorn Brit in "Bridget Jones's Diary," and country music star Kenny Chesney will have their four-month-old marriage annulled, Chesney's publicist, Holly Gleason, and Zellweger's Los Angeles-based publicist Nanci Ryder, confirmed to The Associated Press on Thursday.
In court papers filed Wednesday, Zellweger listed "fraud" as the reason for the breakup but did not elaborate.
A phone call to her attorney was not immediately returned, nor was a call to Gleason later in the day regarding the fraud claim.
I just read that on comcast.net homepage? Fraud?? I wonder what thats all about??!!
Sophia
09-15-2005, 09:06 PM
Fraud??? WTH?
Very interesting that she's the one who filed.
Wild guess: could he be gay?
Wild guess: could he be gay?
OUCH!
thedoorchick
09-15-2005, 09:22 PM
Isn't an anullment granted only if the marriage isn't consumated?
I've heard that before, and always wondered, how do you ever prove such a thing?
Sophia
09-15-2005, 09:24 PM
Sorry. It's just that I can't think of any other sort of thing that might fall under "fraud."
wendalah
09-15-2005, 10:01 PM
Well, he DOES wear those pookah shell necklaces. Hee hee hee. :D
imagirliegirl
09-16-2005, 01:11 AM
I move for a Constitutional Amendment prohibiting celebrities from getting married without a 6 months waiting period, post-engagement.
But then what would we have to talk about?
sarahh
09-16-2005, 04:15 AM
Fraud??? Anullment? Maybe he is gay??
sarahh
09-16-2005, 04:18 AM
Just read this on the California general Divorce/Anullment legal info page...
If you are seeking a nullity of marriage, you will need to prove in a court hearing that your marriage satisfies one of the grounds listed below. These must have applied at the time you and your spouse married:
<snip...>
Fraud: fraud means deception regarding a significant matter that led to the marriage and continued until the breakup. Source: http://www.saccourt.com/family/divorce/divorce.asp
My friend got her marriage annulled after 4 years. An anullment does not have to happen only if the marriage wasn't consummated.
Lizard
09-16-2005, 06:36 AM
The fact that she actually listed Fraud as her reason, as opposed to some other plain vanilla reason, is very interesting. She KNEW all the taboids and gossip-mongers would latch onto that, so I think it's something really serious that she hates him for. I suspect there will be a Barbara Walters interview in a few months detailing it all.
sarahh
09-16-2005, 06:53 AM
I suspect there will be a Barbara Walters interview in a few months detailing it all.Ohhhh...I hope so! :o :p
jimmysgirl424
09-16-2005, 06:59 AM
Why am I not surprised by this?? I mean, nobody even knew they were dating. One minute she's bringing him a margarita onstage during one of his shows, they next minute they are on a beach getting married!? :confused:
Fraud?? I am absolutely dying to know what that means! Being gay is about the only reason I can think of that may explain it. I did think maybe he promised her he wouldn't be on the road as much once they got married, but I seriously doubt that is grounds for such a serious charge. :o
Surprise, Surprise, his web page is down!
Gay or not, I'm still a fan and I'll still pay to go to his concerts! The music is what it's all about, right!
gayle
09-16-2005, 07:48 AM
Maybe I am just really jaded when it comes to Hollywood marriages, but this didn't surprise me in the slightest.
I mean, in the "real" world, what sort of success odds would you give a marriage where the partners met, and then 4 months later tied the knot?
The stats would be pretty dismal even if it wasn't Hollywood, I am quite sure.
sheartm7
09-16-2005, 07:49 AM
oh geez - can't say I'm surprised in the least. :rolleyes:
msnicolea
09-16-2005, 08:23 AM
I have a secret suspicion this has something to do with deep, dark, undocumented Jack White drama. Think about it. They broke up abruptly and suddenly she's marrying Kenny. Then, just as suddenly after that, Jack's marrying Karen Elson.
I bet Jack ditches Karen and he and Renee end up together. Stooopid but admittedly fascinating.
I said the exact same thing last night--well, mostly to myself, because DH tunes me out when I start talking "celebrity". . .
jimmysgirl424
09-16-2005, 08:55 AM
I said the exact same thing last night--well, mostly to myself, because DH tunes me out when I start talking "celebrity". . .
My DH is the same way. They just don't know all of the fun they are missing! :p
msnicolea
09-16-2005, 09:11 AM
Surprise, Surprise, his web page is down!
Gay or not, I'm still a fan and I'll still pay to go to his concerts! The music is what it's all about, right!
Well, I certanly hope that his sexual orientation would have no bearing on whether or not someone went to see his shows--that would be pretty pathetic.
hockeybrat
09-16-2005, 09:45 AM
My DH is the same way. They just don't know all of the fun they are missing! :p
Same here. He just gives me this look :rolleyes:.
ali_ohli
09-16-2005, 09:59 AM
Ohh, thank you Renee and Kenny for giving us something so juicy to ponder! It's gotta be that he's gay.
wendalah
09-16-2005, 10:01 AM
Well, I certanly hope that his sexual orientation would have no bearing on whether or not someone went to see his shows
The music industry hopes that too, otherwise nobody would make any money :)
RE: the Kenny gay thing--couldn't she figure out in four months that he was not into chicks? (If that were the case?)
paiger
09-16-2005, 10:07 AM
Originally Posted by wendalah
I have a secret suspicion this has something to do with deep, dark, undocumented Jack White drama. Think about it. They broke up abruptly and suddenly she's marrying Kenny. Then, just as suddenly after that, Jack's marrying Karen Elson.
I bet Jack ditches Karen and he and Renee end up together. Stooopid but admittedly fascinating.
Didn't we just see in the Celeb Gossip page that Jack actually called Karen - Renee - in front of a large group of people? He yelled it out from the tour bus or something.
The fraud could also be that they had an agreement for helping each other's careers (a la TomKat), then he wouldn't stop touring to go w/ her to premieres, etc. It would be very interesting to see a 'For Publicity Only' Marriage totally outed.
hockeybrat
09-16-2005, 10:08 AM
The music industry hopes that too, otherwise nobody would make any money :)
RE: the Kenny gay thing--couldn't she figure out in four months that he was not into chicks? (If that were the case?)
Maybe they didn't see each other much during that time.
danielle
09-16-2005, 10:09 AM
Didn't we just see in the Celeb Gossip page that Jack actually called Karen - Renee - in front of a large group of people? He yelled it out from the tour bus or something.
Good call - yes we did...and the plot thickens...
paiger
09-16-2005, 10:09 AM
Maybe they didn't see each other much during that time.
There has been the report that they only saw each other maybe 5 times before getting married, then have only seen each other a total of 15days while married. He has been on tour, and she has been on location and doing PR for her movie.
Rosebud
09-16-2005, 10:18 AM
From popsugar.com:
According to top Hollywood divorce attorney Sorrell Trope: “If fraud is checked that means a promise was made before the marriage, but the person who made it had no intention of keeping it. The promise has to pertain to the heart of the marriage.”
wendalah
09-16-2005, 10:19 AM
The fraud could also be that they had an agreement for helping each other's careers (a la TomKat), then he wouldn't stop touring to go w/ her to premieres, etc.
Ooooo and his album is coming out this fall...this sounds interesting....
ali_ohli
09-16-2005, 10:25 AM
The fraud could also be that they had an agreement for helping each other's careers
Damn, and I thought Renee was better than that.
I am so sad over this, though certainly not surprised. The gay thing is really interesting (not sure if that's the right word). I guess it just makes for juicy gossip. Fraud is a pretty serious accusation.
What if he is gay, is it really necessary to accuse him of fraud & out him to the public in this way? Seems kinda harsh to me.
Just last week she said they were happily married.... right. :rolleyes:
jimmysgirl424
09-16-2005, 10:51 AM
Just last week she said they were happily married.... right. :rolleyes:
Maybe that's just the way celebrities have. Didn't Brad and Jen, Denise and Charlie and several other couples insist things were hunky-dory in their marriages, when obviously they were falling apart at the seams??
Cricket4
09-16-2005, 11:16 AM
"Fraud" in the case of annulments can also be considered "he promised that he loved children and that we'd start trying to have a baby, but he lied. He hates children and never wants any."
If someone knowingly lies about something in order to get someone else to marry them, that is considered "fraud" for annulment purposes. So he obviously made some promise to her that he had no intention of keeping, in order to get her to marry him, whether it was about babies, or cutting down on his tour schedule, or where they would live, etc.
But I DON'T know enough about annulments to know whether or not you can check anything more tame than fraud. In other words, did she check fraud because (as another poster suggested) she really is pissed at him and wants him to look bad and wants all of his fans and the women of CC to wonder what a terrible human being he is? Or is that actually the LEAST horrific designation that you can claim in order to get an annulment. I know its more difficult to have one granted than a divorce, but I'm not sure how bad it has to be, KWIM?
msnicolea
09-16-2005, 11:26 AM
I'l bet it was something about sharing her Connecticut home or cutting back on touring--that makes sense to me.
Why do celebrities always file for divorce/anullment in LA? Don't you have to be a resident of the county you file in? Does Renee have a house out there? Just wondering.
Lizard
09-16-2005, 11:31 AM
Is she reading this site? LOL :)
Zellweger Explains Legal Terms of Breakup (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050916/ap_en_mu/people_zellweger_chesney;_ylt=Ak_cPZr1LLTWTf7oNEtW abys0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3YXYwNDRrBHNlYwM3NjI-)
7 minutes ago
NEW YORK - Renee Zellweger, who has filed for an annulment from husband Kenny Chesney after just four months of marriage, says the couple "hope to experience this transition as privately as possible."
In court papers filed Wednesday in Los Angeles County Superior Court, the Oscar-winning actress listed "fraud" as the reason for the breakup with the country music star.
The term was "simply legal language and not a refection of Kenny's character," Zellweger said in a statement Friday.
"I would personally be very grateful for your support in refraining from drawing derogatory, hurtful, sensationalized or untrue conclusions," she said. "We hope to experience this transition as privately as possible."
Chesney hasn't publicly commented on the split.
Zellweger, 36, and Chesney, 37, wed in a small ceremony on the Caribbean island of St. John in the U.S. Virgin Islands in May. It was the first marriage for both.
Photos of the couple barefoot on the beach were widely distributed.
They met at the Concert of Hope tsunami relief benefit Jan. 15, where Chesney was singing and Zellweger was answering telephones, the syndicated television news magazine "The Insider" had reported.
Zellweger won a best supporting actress Oscar for "Cold Mountain." Her screen credits also include "Chicago" and "Bridget Jones's Diary."
Chesney was named Country Music Association entertainer of the year in November. His hits include "Me and You" and "She Thinks My Tractor's Sexy."
Lil_Mrs_0702
09-16-2005, 12:10 PM
I guess I am one of the very few that are dissapointed to see them split. I like them both seperately and thought that they were just such an adorable couple!! :eek:
I heard this morning something to the tune of he was really just "infatuated" with her since Jerry McQuire.
Not sure if infatuation is the best building block for marriage.
The term was "simply legal language and not a refection of Kenny's character,"
It's nice of her to say that, but if the term is being correctly applied to the situation and is true, I'd say breaking a promise made to your betrothed that pertains to something at the heart of the marriage (or whatever the wording is) still reflects upon your character. But maybe I'm just hoping it's his fault because I've always liked Renee Zellweger, and had never heard of Kenny Chesney until they got married. :p
honeygirl
09-16-2005, 01:12 PM
Could fraud be that he told her he loved her and then admitted a few months in that he never loved her, etc?
Also, just a FYI, of the couples I've know that met and married quickly the success rate is about 50/50. Same as more "traditional" marriages. Getting married isn't so much about the time, more about the effort to know a person deeply and fully (or as fully as possible before marrying). In this case it seems like they barely saw each other and were probably still in the infatuation stage.
Lizard
09-16-2005, 01:23 PM
Danny Bonaduce married his wife the very first night they met, and they've done well... Er, wait, maybe not. (http://www.vh1.com/shows/dyn/breaking_bonaduce/series.jhtml) :D
ysolde
09-16-2005, 01:34 PM
Annullment for fraud means the person is not who you thought they were (not Kenny Chesney, but a look-alike), failure to disclose a serious medical condition (something that renders the other person impotent, infertile, or some sort of serious mental illness, or an STD), or, yes, the person is same-sex oriented, that sort of thing.
It's pretty serious to be asking for an annullment on grounds of fraud, come to think of it.
kris97
09-16-2005, 01:40 PM
I know fraud sounds juicy, but my guess is that it's the easiest way to get out of the marriage. In NY, for instance, people who want the quickest type of divorce will often agree to check off a "fault" like mental cruelty in the papers because the alternative, "no fault" type of divorce requires a six month or year separation and wait for the divorce to finalize.
kris97
09-16-2005, 01:42 PM
None of the other available categories sound "nice" either:
from:www.saccourt.com/family/divorce/divorce.asp
Grounds for Termination of Marriage
For dissolution of marriage or legal separation in California, there are only two legal grounds. The first is "irreconcilable differences," meaning the marriage cannot be saved. The other reason is "incurable insanity" which, unlike irreconcilable differences, must be proven.
If you are seeking a nullity of marriage, you will need to prove in a court hearing that your marriage satisfies one of the grounds listed below. These must have applied at the time you and your spouse married:
Incest: incest means the spouses are close blood relatives.
Bigamy: bigamy means a spouse was knowingly married to another living person at the time of marriage.
Underage: underage means a spouse was below age 18 years at the time of marriage and did not obtain parental consent or a court order permitting the marriage.
Prior Existing Marriage: prior existing marriage means a spouse married on the mistaken belief that his or her previous marriage had ended in the death of the other spouse, who in fact was still living.
Unsound Mind: unsound mind means a spouse could not and has not formed the intent to marry due to a mental condition.
Fraud: fraud means deception regarding a significant matter that led to the marriage and continued until the breakup.
Force: force means threats or acts of harm were used to force one spouse into the marriage.
Incapacity: incapacity means a spouse was and continues to be physically unable to consummate the marriage.
houseblend
09-16-2005, 01:55 PM
That makes it look like Fraud is the nicest option to pick!
thedoorchick
09-16-2005, 02:41 PM
Since divorce is a "the marriage didn't work out" and annulment is "we're saying the marriage never happened," I can see how the reasons for annulment sound a lot more serious.
melones
09-16-2005, 04:03 PM
I guess she has to pick fraud to get her anullment. I didn't think this one would last.
Sophia
09-16-2005, 04:37 PM
I'm still racking my brain for a reason (other than his being gay) for her to file for anullment on the grounds of fraud. Especially after looking at the link Sarah posted. For a sec I thought, maybe it's because she understood they'd live one place, and then he didn't follow through and kept living in his other residences? But if it were that, it would be easy enough to file for divorce and list irreconcilable differences--that would be so boring nobody would bat an eye and this would all blow over very quickly. But fraud? That smacks of a very significant ommision or fabrication on his part.
Now, assuming he is gay (and of course I have no reason to believe he is other than the way the anullment was filed), I really don't care. Have at it, I say. And I agree with Nicole--his being gay shouldn't change anything for anyone. Well, except his wife, if she didn't know.
I find it interesting that his web site is down. What happened over there besides people getting upset at Renée?
Lil_Mrs_0702
09-16-2005, 04:41 PM
Does she have a fan web site?? I wonder if that would be down too?
villanelle75
09-16-2005, 04:42 PM
I think they (or she) probably wanted it to be annulled, rather than having a divorce. Tha'ts why they wouldnt' just do the irreconsilable differeces divorce. It's not that it didn't fit their situation, I suepct it'sbecause they want it to be liek this never happened, so they stretch the meaning of "fraud" so that it can be applied to their situation.
Sophia
09-16-2005, 04:48 PM
Oh, I hadn't even thought about "he said he wanted kids, but then he didn't" (or vice versa) kind of reason.
Annullment for fraud means the person is not who you thought they were (not Kenny Chesney, but a look-alike)
LMAO!!
imagirliegirl
09-16-2005, 05:03 PM
You stop calling him gay!! :mad: :p
http://www.redskins.com/uploads/photos/temp/main/EMLNEGADGPID/BE17cover2.jpg
Mmmm...Kennnny...
RELAX imagirliegirl he was an "look-alike" after all. :p
Do you even know who is in this picture?!?!
wendalah
09-16-2005, 05:35 PM
OK, he's not gay...but I still cringe at the pookah shell necklace.
The muscle tee and silver bracelet aren't exactly making me hot, either. ;)
ETA: I'm sorry, I have nothing against Kenny at all, except I must say, he usually runs an impressive gamut of my personal fashion hatreds in most pictures I see of him.
jeepgirl
09-16-2005, 06:54 PM
The only thing in that picture that would really tell me he is probably not gay, is the cowboy hat. Other than that, he is a pretty boy, IMHO. ;)
imagirliegirl
09-16-2005, 07:20 PM
Do you even know who is in this picture?!?!
I know I lurve him, whoever he may be. :D
Georgiana
09-16-2005, 07:44 PM
Just more proof that it's celebrities who are destroying the sanctity of marriage.
Amen...
You can't take a celebrity marriage seriously. I am so curious as to why she think fraud was commited by him...
julietchicago
09-16-2005, 08:58 PM
He is not gay, c'mon now...
I am a die hard Kenny fan, I was so bummed when he married that fish face casper looking annoying thing...aka Renee.
Sorry, but she just seems like she would be very whiny, b*tchy and controlling. He needs a laid back, funny, jeans and t-shirt kinda gal. Too bad i'm married already..hehe.
taraw
09-16-2005, 09:52 PM
...I am a die hard Kenny fan, I was so bummed when he married that fish face casper looking annoying thing...aka Renee.
LOL! That is totally how I feel about her too.
apoppy
09-17-2005, 08:56 AM
Chesney also released a statement on Friday describing it as "an incredibly sad time".
"I just hope everyone can respect the privacy that I know Renee has already asked for," he added.
US TV show Entertainment Tonight reported a further joint statement saying the split was due to "the miscommunication of the objective of their marriage at the start".
"Renee and Kenny value and respect each other and are saddened that their different objectives prevent the success of this marriage," it said, according to Entertainment Tonight.
"They are disappointed that the legal term 'annulment-fraud' has been publicly misunderstood and exaggerated."
as reported by the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4255338.stm
apoppy
09-17-2005, 08:58 AM
According to the London Mirror, the actress recently realized that "she has made the most horrendous mistake" and was "confiding to friends that she barely knew her husband. And the beginning of what should be a great adventure appears to be turning into a nightmare."
"Kenny wants to be involved in every aspect of Renée's life," a "close friend" blabbed to the paper. "But she's an independent woman who is not used to being told what to do. She has forged an incredibly successful career, made a great deal of money and feels she has the right to make her own decisions about how to behave. She's not a washing-up, cooking and kitchen kind of girl, but Kenny seems to want that. He's very controlling and unless he loosens up, it's just not going to work."
http://entertainment.msn.com/movies/hotgossipb5
Sophia
09-17-2005, 09:54 AM
I think Renée is beautiful. I think Chesney looks like an old turtle with no shell--I'm still traumatized by the first time I saw him without that stupid hat.
wendalah
09-17-2005, 09:59 AM
They're both very talented and I don't dislike either, but neither of them is on my "amazingly physically attractive" list.
Georgiana
09-17-2005, 03:54 PM
US TV show Entertainment Tonight reported a further joint statement saying the split was due to "the miscommunication of the objective of their marriage at the start".
"Renee and Kenny value and respect each other and are saddened that their different objectives prevent the success of this marriage," it said, according to Entertainment Tonight.
"Kenny wants to be involved in every aspect of Renée's life," a "close friend" blabbed to the paper. "But she's an independent woman who is not used to being told what to do. She has forged an incredibly successful career, made a great deal of money and feels she has the right to make her own decisions about how to behave. She's not a washing-up, cooking and kitchen kind of girl, but Kenny seems to want that. He's very controlling and unless he loosens up, it's just not going to work."
Okay.....
This is why the hell you need to know who the hell you are marrying before you actually do it... If what they expect out of one another are not kosher, they they should have never gotten married. If all of this is true, then I have no sympathy for either one of them.. This is what they get...
ManteoChik
09-17-2005, 05:13 PM
I must say that I'm not surprised by this at all. For some reason I just didn't like them as a couple. They hardly knew each other and she just doesn't seem very suited for him.
I'm a huge fan of Kenny but not really a fan of Renee. I'm not sure if I believe the rumors that he's gay. I think that if he was really gay he wouldn't date/marry any woman. He went a long time until this whole Renee fiasco so it just doesn't seem like this would be a cover-up marriage. I think they got swept up into some whirlwind romance and got married.....not 4 months later they realized that they *don't* know each other and they really have nothing in common.
Sophia
09-17-2005, 05:55 PM
There aren't any "rumors" he's gay. They were just guesses as to why she'd file for an anullment based on "fraud."
SilverDecember
09-17-2005, 06:38 PM
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/12020#comment-57960
Sophia
09-18-2005, 08:54 AM
Well, I wasn't aware of any actual rumors. I'm not a fan.
mindy
09-18-2005, 09:56 AM
I love Kenny Chesney I hoped they would last I hadn't really seen much of them or heard anything so I figured they were probably doing good because he likes to be so private about stuff. I guess this is why you should probably date a little longer before getting married.
IrishMeg
09-18-2005, 06:42 PM
I think Chesney looks like an old turtle with no shell--I'm still traumatized by the first time I saw him without that stupid hat.
LMAO, Sophia! I thought the exact same thing but when I described this to people no one got what I was saying! Thank you!! :D
lbs27
09-18-2005, 06:56 PM
I guess I'm not surprised by this, but had hoped that maybe they would prove me wrong and actually make it work. One comment I have to make are that if they want everything to be private during this difficult time, then despite whatever happened to have her file as fraud, they should have just filed the standby irreconcilable differences. I mean, they have to have realized that fraud would be pounced on by everyone with all sorts of rumors being started! Not sure if it has been posted here or not, but there was an article on E! and some Hollywood lawyer said that he was very surprised by the fraud reason, because it goes against the whole keeping it private Hollywood style.
My thinking is that either she wanted kids and he didn't (or can't and didn't tell her) or he wanted her to give up her career and be barefoot and pregnant and she wasn't willing to do that. It did strike me as odd that since they got married she's all but been out of the spotlight. Hopefully, they'll each find someone else that makes them happy!
thedoorchick
09-18-2005, 08:02 PM
One comment I have to make are that if they want everything to be private during this difficult time, then despite whatever happened to have her file as fraud, they should have just filed the standby irreconcilable differences.
Since this is an annulment, not a divorce, that's not a possible legal reason. A couple of pages back someone posted the possible reasons for filing an annulment. Frankly, fraud is just about the least "juicy" of them all.
shoegal
09-18-2005, 08:28 PM
I live in Nashville, the gay rumor has been bantered about for numerous singers. It could be or it might not be. The thing is, if the fraud was "we will slow down the pace of our careers. . ." you cannot just cancel dates on a tour (or for that matter the entire tour) after it has been planned (after all, some people make their living off of a tour). If this was the only viable option to try and obtain the annulment, then go for the divorce. I mean, you took the time for a wedding. I really like both of them and had hoped that it would work. But their relationship is between the two of them and the only thing we can do is speculate (which is fun and entertaining) I just wish that everyone who gets married would take all the consequences into consideration. Marriage is a very big deal and I wish that celebrities wouldn't take it so lightly.
mgrace
09-19-2005, 11:06 AM
Ack. Of course there are going to be all sorts of rumors about his sexual orientation, stability, etc. :rolleyes:
Perhaps they realized that they didn't know each other, hadn't spent any time together and got the marriage annuled. Could be as simple, and as non-juicy, as that.
julietchicago
09-19-2005, 01:04 PM
Maybe she's a lesbian??? Why hasn't anyone brought that up? Why does everyone assume right away that he is gay? He has been engaged in the past, to a woman. I can see her swinging the other way.
sarahh
09-19-2005, 01:24 PM
I heard on the radio this morning that it's because she wants kids and he doesn't.
Tanya
09-19-2005, 03:13 PM
Maybe she's a lesbian??? Why hasn't anyone brought that up? Why does everyone assume right away that he is gay? He has been engaged in the past, to a woman. I can see her swinging the other way.
'Cause she's the one that filed w/ fraud as the reason. And, c'mon, let's not make fun of Renee's pastiness. Some of us are quite pale ourselves;). At least she's not another tanorexic. I think she's a fabulous actor and he's a good singer. So there:D.
Rosebud
09-19-2005, 03:14 PM
I wouldn't take this as gospel, but posting it anyway. From femalefirst.co.uk:
Renee's baby split
Renee Zellweger split from husband Kenny Chesney because he doesn't want children, it has emerged. The 'Bridget Jones' actress cited "fraud" when she filed for an annulment from the country singer last week. It has now been revealed the 36-year-old actress is referring to Chesney's reluctance to become a dad even though "her biological clock is ticking loudly."
A source told Britain's The Sun newspaper: "She's an old-fashioned girl and wanted to start a family as soon as the wedding dress was in the wardrobe. She thought Kenny felt the same way, but it didn't take her long to realise the dream was over."
Lawyers said spouses sometimes cite "fraud" in divorce or annulment proceedings as a euphemism for a partner who is either gay or has sexual issues. But the beautiful actress issued a statement pleading for fans to avoid jumping to "sensationalized or untrue conclusions".
Zellweger and the platinum-selling country singer married in May at a romantic ceremony on the beach in the Virgin Islands. But a friend of Renee said: "She had no idea how involved in her life Kenny would want to be. She'd never even seen him lose his temper before the wedding. But now he seems to think he can tell Renee what to do, what to wear, where to go and who to see."
The couple met at a tsunami relief concert in January and recently fought off reports that they had spent just two weeks together since their marriage.
sdianems
09-19-2005, 03:37 PM
But a friend of Renee said: "She had no idea how involved in her life Kenny would want to be. She'd never even seen him lose his temper before the wedding. But now he seems to think he can tell Renee what to do, what to wear, where to go and who to see."
Hmmmmm....could that be because they didnt' know each other before they got married?!?!
Just my opinion...
suzubeane
09-19-2005, 03:40 PM
Maybe she's a lesbian??? Why hasn't anyone brought that up? Why does everyone assume right away that he is gay? He has been engaged in the past, to a woman. I can see her swinging the other way.Seriously? Well, I guess if you view the speculation about his sexuality as an insult, then the "I'm rubber, you're glue" method of debate would necessitate that her sexuality needs to be questioned, too.
Suggesting he might be gay isn't slanderous ... just logical since apparently it's been rumored for years, and (as has been pointed out) SHE'S the one who filed.
Sophia
09-19-2005, 06:15 PM
LMAO, Sophia! I thought the exact same thing but when I described this to people no one got what I was saying! Thank you!! :D
He's like Paul Schaeffer's little brother or something. Hee!
IrishMeg
09-20-2005, 06:28 AM
He's like Paul Schaeffer's little brother or something. Hee!
Eeewww, ya you're right!!
greenbunny
09-20-2005, 07:34 AM
My mom thinks she's got baby rabies and he's sterile. I have no idea where she got this idea. But I would think impotence or sterility that he "forgot" to mention could count as fraud, right?
Sophia, you're spot on with that turtle thing. I am rolling!
kemaji
09-20-2005, 07:55 AM
baby rabies
LMAO....baby rabies! I've never heard that term before.
mindy
09-20-2005, 08:28 AM
If he is gay which I highly doubt what would be the motivation to marry her? He is already selling out shows and is selling tons of records. It's not like he needs help with his career and I would think marrying her knowing he was gay and now the whole fraud thing would make it worse then just staying single and having the rumors go around.
Lanapoo
09-20-2005, 01:04 PM
I can't tell if I'm posting this link right, probably not...
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/indexd?blogid=7
Article below...
The White Stripes rocker Jack White has infuriated his new wife, model Karen Elson, by dashing to be by ex-girlfriend Renee Zellweger's side in the wake of her marriage breakdown.
Elson is devastated by White's eagerness to comfort the star, and is terrified that the old flames will reignite their earlier passions.
Oscar winner Zellweger dated White on and off for two years, and split only a few months before she married country singer Kenny Chesney in a secret beach ceremony in May.
Despite warning Zellweger against the whirlwind marriage, White then followed in her footsteps and secretly wed Elson in June, just four months after they met.
A source tells UK newspaper the Daily Star, "Karen is absolutely horrified. Jack dropped everything to be by Renee's side, and Karen only found out after he'd left.
"She knows that although Jack is very fond of her she'll never measure up to Renee. And she's terrified he will rekindle his romance with her."
Interesting...
Lizard
09-20-2005, 01:09 PM
Wow, well what do you know. Quoting Wendalah's previous prediction, maybe it will really happen!
I have a secret suspicion this has something to do with deep, dark, undocumented Jack White drama. Think about it. They broke up abruptly and suddenly she's marrying Kenny. Then, just as suddenly after that, Jack's marrying Karen Elson.
I bet Jack ditches Karen and he and Renee end up together. Stooopid but admittedly fascinating.
On the same note, how does Jack White get all the hot chicks? "Elephant" is on my heavy rotation CD list, but still... :)
Lanapoo
09-20-2005, 01:10 PM
Hee :D It just gets better and better doesn't it :p
Sophia
09-20-2005, 01:47 PM
Ooooooooo...this is interesting!
I think Jack White is WAY more attractive than Chesney.
ihearttx
09-20-2005, 01:54 PM
Coming out of surpreme lurkdom to say I love Jack White! I would take him over Kenny any day!
wendalah
09-20-2005, 02:42 PM
I'd take Jack too, I like the pale, unwashed indie rock boy look.
julietchicago
09-20-2005, 04:20 PM
It's been rumored for years? Geez, i've been a fan since day 1 and have never heard that rumor? It doesnt matter who filed, it doesn't automatically mean it's the other persons fault...
Seriously? Well, I guess if you view the speculation about his sexuality as an insult, then the "I'm rubber, you're glue" method of debate would necessitate that her sexuality needs to be questioned, too.
Suggesting he might be gay isn't slanderous ... just logical since apparently it's been rumored for years, and (as has been pointed out) SHE'S the one who filed.
SingleWhiteFemale
09-20-2005, 05:21 PM
It doesnt matter who filed, it doesn't automatically mean it's the other persons fault...It doesn't make sense though, she filed for an annulment because she committed fraud? That just doesn't sound right.
One of my local country stations was reporting it was the children issue--she felt her biological clock ticking, he just didn't want kids. Wouldn't that be a question you'd ask before getting married :rolleyes: They were big on "he did nothing wrong!" :rolleyes: Of course they support him.
suzubeane
09-20-2005, 05:31 PM
It's been rumored for years? Geez, i've been a fan since day 1 and have never heard that rumor? Really? Well I never heard of him before they married, but I followed the links provided here and skimmed messages on other boards. That's why I wrote "apparently it's been rumored for years," because ... well ... apparently it has. I just think it's funny to take the speculation that he might be gay, assume it's meant as an afront to him, and try to turn it around to fit her.
BTW, "since day 1" of what?
mgrace
09-21-2005, 08:03 AM
Chesney speaks over Renee split (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/4266800.stm)
BBC
The singer and the actress are seeking an annulment of their four-month marriage, with Zellweger listing "fraud" as the reason.
Chesney told Country Weekly magazine: "I'm all right. I'm good. There have been better times, but I'll be OK."
They married on a Caribbean beach in May, four months after meeting at a benefit for tsunami victims.
Chesney, 37, and the 36-year-old Bridget Jones star wed in a surprise ceremony on the US Virgin Island of St John, where Chesney lives.
Oscar
Chesney, one of the biggest country music stars in the US, was named entertainer of the year at the US Academy of Country Music awards in May.
Zellweger won a best supporting actress Oscar for Cold Mountain in 2004, and was also nominated for her roles in Chicago and Bridget Jones's Diary. It was the first marriage for both.
Chesney added: "I hit everything so hard this year.
"I had the biggest tour I've ever done, I had a record to finish that was real important to me, and, of course, I had something new in my personal life and I was trying to do that too.
"It really ended up being too much."
Invalid
He added: "I'm tired right now, but by next year, I'll be excited to get back to it. And it'll be about the music again, not about the sideshow."
In US law, an annulment is a decree that a marriage was invalid from its outset.
Anyone seeking an annulment on the grounds of "fraud" must prove that their partner misrepresented some matter that was vital to the marriage.
This may include the concealment of a fact such as an existing spouse, permanent impotence or a criminal history.
In a statement, Zellweger said it was "legal language and not a reflection of Kenny's character".
sdianems
09-21-2005, 09:13 AM
"I hit everything so hard this year.
"I had the biggest tour I've ever done, I had a record to finish that was real important to me, and, of course, I had something new in my personal life and I was trying to do that too.
"It really ended up being too much."
Well, if this is true, WTF?!?! Seriously, some people have no coping skills whatsoever.
Again, if they actually had taken the time to sit and talk with each other and discuss what is important to each of them (like the rest of us schlubs have to do before marriage) this would never have ended this way. Maybe never even begun.
Sheesh....
I was never a fan of either of them, but now my feelings about both have plummeted.
harness2be
09-21-2005, 09:20 AM
i don't wanna sound nasty but why do we care so much about celebrity's and their love lives. if it were you or me nobody would care what happened would they???
i'm a kenny and renee fan but i think celebrites break up more often cuz of all the publicity around there lives.
i don't wanna sound nasty but why do we care so much about celebrity's and their love lives.
I think it's because they ARE celebrities. They have something we don't, that "star factor". They live lives that most of us can only dream of. People are just courious about the lives of others. That's why the tabloids do so well, people are just courious.
IrishMeg
09-21-2005, 10:33 AM
"I had the biggest tour I've ever done, I had a record to finish that was real important to me, and, of course, I had something new in my personal life and I was trying to do that too.
I hate this quote. It makes it sound like marriage is just some little experiment he was trying out to see if he liked it. Date, live together, play house that's fine... but get married? Uuugghh, it drives me crazy.
Rosebud
09-21-2005, 11:06 AM
From IMDB.com this morning:
Chesney Was Too Busy for Marriage
Country star Kenny Chesney believes he had "too much" on his hands to make his marriage to Renee Zellweger a success. Last week, the couple shocked fans when they announced they were seeking to annul their marriage just four months after exchanging nuptials in the Caribbean. And Chesney admits he struggled to balance his personal life with his hugely successful career. He tells Country Weekly, "I'm all right. I'm good. There have been better times, but I'll be okay. I hit everything so hard this year. I had the biggest tour I've ever done, I had a record to finish that was real important to me, and, of course, I had something new in my personal life and I was trying to do that too. It really ended up being too much. I'm tired right now, but by next year, I'll be excited to get back to it. And it'll be about the music again, not about the sideshow." In court papers, Zellweger listed "fraud" as the reason for the break-up.
ETA: Sorry, just realized the BBC article posted earlier is virtually identical... :p
suzubeane
09-21-2005, 11:21 AM
i don't wanna sound nasty but why do we care so much about celebrity's and their love lives. if it were you or me nobody would care what happened would they??? Oh, not this again!
harness2be
09-21-2005, 12:03 PM
i didn't mean to start anything i was just curious..
msnicolea
09-21-2005, 12:21 PM
It was only a matter of time:
http://prodtn.cafepress.com/6/31556946_F_tn.jpg
http://prodtn.cafepress.com/1/31555351_F_tn.jpg
mindy
09-21-2005, 12:30 PM
I love the shirts I swear they will make a shirt about anything anymore!
Sophia
09-21-2005, 12:33 PM
Hey, the shirt doesn't have the accent over Renée's first e.
mgrace
09-21-2005, 02:12 PM
The shirt would make a good conversation piece, no?
julietchicago
09-21-2005, 05:01 PM
Really? Well I never heard of him before they married, but I followed the links provided here and skimmed messages on other boards. That's why I wrote "apparently it's been rumored for years," because ... well ... apparently it has. I just think it's funny to take the speculation that he might be gay, assume it's meant as an afront to him, and try to turn it around to fit her.
BTW, "since day 1" of what?
Day 1 - meaning since the beginning of his career.....
mgrace
09-27-2005, 02:54 PM
More on Renee
Renee Zellweger Supported By Damien Rice
September 27, 2005, 7:20:20
Heartbroken actress RENEE ZELLWEGER is reportedly being comforted by acclaimed singer/songwriter DAMIEN RICE in the wake of her marriage collapse.
Zellweger filed for an annulment from country star KENNY CHESNEY two weeks ago (11SEP05) and Rice has been consoling her ever since.
The pair met last year (04) and Rice, who provided the soundtrack for 2004 movie CLOSER, has spent hours on the phone to the actress and even invited her to his Kildare home in Ireland to escape press attention.
A source tells British newspaper the Daily Mirror, "When her marriage fell apart, he was the obvious person to call for a shoulder to cry on.
"Damien seems to be a very important part of her life right now and is helping her to stay strong."
sarahh
12-16-2005, 07:54 AM
Zellweger back with ex
Friday Dec 16 08:52 AEDT
Renee Zellweger and ex-husband Kenny Chesney are back together.
The estranged couple has been spotted out on a series of intimate dates. Now they are willing to give their 128-day marriage another go, according to reports.
The stars amazed diners by enjoying a romantic dinner at Mario's restaurant in Rocky Hill, Connecticut.
"They just kept looking at each other. They were very happy and cuddly during their meal," witness Anna Hernandez told In Touch Weekly magazine. Two days earlier they were seen holding hands at the town's Wethersfield Diner with Kenny kissing her twice on the cheek.
"They were very affectionate," a witness said.
Hollywood actress Zellweger, 36, and country music star Chesney, 37, called it quits after she filed an annulment in September.
"They've been talking in earnest for the past month," an insider told the magazine.
"Kenny is an amazing optimist and even at his lowest point he kept telling pals 'I don't think the final chapter has been written for us yet.'
The couple's relationship was strained from the start, with Chesney out on the road touring with his band.
Now Renee's feelings towards Chesney have been reignited.
"She's discovering what attracted her to him in the first place. He's a gentleman with a big heart," a friend of Renee's said.
Renee has even turned to pal Nicole Kidman, who is dating country star Keith Urban, for advice.
"Nicole told her it isn't important to her to have her man by her side 24-hours a day. True love is what is important."
Renee and Chesney tied the knot in May on the resort island of St. John in the U.S Virgin Islands.
The pair met at a tsunami relief concert in January.
Fans first found out about the relationship in April when she walked onto stage at a concert in Jacksonville, Florida, and gave him a margarita and a kiss.
From ninemsn.com.auSource: Oh No They Didn't
Cricket4
12-16-2005, 08:15 AM
Sarah, I must be turning into a CC geek when I notice that your post, citing Renee and Kenny's 128 day marriage, is post #129 in this thread.
Maybe they really are back on. Day 129 of marriage, here they come!
ManteoChik
12-16-2005, 09:05 AM
Hmmm, NO KENNY.....DON'T DO IT!
Sophia
12-16-2005, 09:19 AM
More like, NO RENEE, DON'T DO IT.
What on earth does she see in him? Yuck.
Maybe she reconsidered because her true love Jack White knocked up his wife.
mgrace
12-16-2005, 10:00 AM
Very strange.
More like, NO RENEE, DON'T DO IT.
What on earth does she see in him? Yuck.
Maybe she reconsidered because her true love Jack White knocked up his wife.
He must be in to that "I just sucked a lemon" look. :p I wonder if they are going to renew their vows?
maplekitty
12-16-2005, 10:12 AM
I wonder if they are going to renew their vows?
LMAO!
Sophia
12-16-2005, 10:28 AM
Yeah, she's pouty and squinty, but he's bald and looks like a shell-less turtle. :p
tinkerbelljenny
12-16-2005, 10:32 AM
Didn't they learn a lesson the first time? UGH!
Sophia
12-16-2005, 10:35 AM
OMG, I just had an awful thought--what if they reconcile and have kids? Eeek!!!! :eek:
vmw774180
12-16-2005, 10:40 AM
Very strange.
He must be in to that "I just sucked a lemon" look. :p I wonder if they are going to renew their vows?
OMG - I too call her Ms. Just sucked a lemon!!!
hockeybrat
12-16-2005, 11:12 AM
Very strange.
He must be in to that "I just sucked a lemon" look. :p I wonder if they are going to renew their vows?
I call her look the "oh, I smell boiled cabbage".
cocopops
12-16-2005, 11:15 AM
Whaaaaaaaa lol. First Eminem & Kim now Kenny & Renee ;) :p
I just hope this sets a trend that young couples should ALWAYSSSSSS work things out instead of just giving up after the first argument :rolleyes:
Sophia
12-16-2005, 11:20 AM
I just have to wonder, if Renée's features, which are because of her mother's Sami heritage, were from a non-white indigenous people instead of a white indigenous people, would eevryone feel so free about making fun of them.
taraw
12-16-2005, 11:46 AM
I just have to wonder, if Renée's features, which are because of her mother's Sami heritage, were from a non-white indigenous people instead of a white indigenous people, would eevryone feel so free about making fun of them.
I think Renee's features are from too much botox and plastic surgery. She used to be a very cute girl back in her Jerry McGuire days, but now she only has one facial expression and unfortunately it is the "oh, I smell boiled cabbage" look.
BTW hockeybrat, Very funny - I am going with that reference from now on!
Sophia
12-16-2005, 12:04 PM
I disagree she only has one expression, but whatever.
bensgirl1222
12-19-2005, 06:38 AM
Yeah I think Renee has always had that I sucked a lemon look. Even in Me Myself & Irene.
chrisinluv
12-19-2005, 07:39 AM
It wouldn't be hard to bash Renee, but admittedly, I know I'd look MUCH worse in different ways if the paps ever had any interest in my image.
I do have tons of respect for her as a young woman. She looks like a regular person to me, when she is a normal weight. I like watching movies where someone has to act rather than flash a confused, but knowing looking half-smile.
taraw
12-22-2005, 10:46 AM
LOS ANGELES - Renee Zellweger's marriage to country crooner Kenny Chesney never existed _ at least in the eyes of the law.
The couple's union has been annulled by the Los Angeles Superior Court, according to documents obtained this week by the television show "Extra." Publicists for Zellweger and Chesney did not return calls to The Associated Press on Wednesday.
An annulment is a judicial declaration that a marriage never legally existed.
In California, an annulment may be granted when either party in the marriage is under 18, of unsound mind, bound to a previous marriage or if the consent to marry was obtained by fraud or force.
In court papers filed last September, Zellweger listed "fraud" as the reason she was seeking an annulment after four months of marriage.
The Oscar-winning actress later issued a statement saying the term was "simply legal language and not a reflection of Kenny's character."
Zellweger, 36, and Chesney, 37, wed in a small ceremony on the Caribbean island of St. John in the U.S. Virgin Islands in May. It was the first marriage for both.
Source: Associated Press
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