Gilmore Girls

[Brandy]

Yep, season finale! I can't wait!

[jmvan74]

I only have to wait 45 more minutes! Eeek!

[alibaba]

All I have to say is OMG!!!! I don't think I can wait til next season!! :D

[Regina Phalange]

Wow- I don't think I could be more bored. Worst season finale ever! If they spent any more time wasting plot on those damn musicians I was going to scream!! Boring and predictable. Nothing exciting happened.

[kugrrly]

Wow- I don't think I could be more bored. Worst season finale ever! If they spent any more time wasting plot on those damn musicians I was going to scream!! Boring and predictable. Nothing exciting happened.



I thought the same thing. I spent the evening on The Idol which was much more exciting. :)

[alibaba]

I guess I'm in the minority then, I enjoyed it. I was so glad Lorelai held her ground this time. And I definitely love Logan!

[allison]

Our DVR cut out the last five minutes!!!! Can anyone help me out??!!!???:eek:

[EmilyZA]

I'm glad Lorelai stood her ground with Luke. However, the finale was so. predictable. They gave away the entire episode last week with the coming attractions. Very frustrating.

[jmvan74]

I thought it was pretty good. I agree that the troubador thing was kind of lame. I'm glad Lorelai finally told Luke how she felt. I was honestly shocked that she slept with Christopher. They've always helped each other through things and not always slept together.
I cried when Logan left. :( I can't believe we have to wait until the fall to find out what happens.

[PookiePrincess]

This is what I've been dreading for months. I knew everything about the last scene, down to GiGi's not sleeping in pj's when she's sick and Chris in his boxers. I'll just be interested in the spin David Rosenthal can put on it for next year. If he can't spin it just right, they'll lose so many viewers, and that's not what they want for a brand new network.

Hated the troubadours. It took up too much time. I was with Taylor on that one.

I actually liked Mitchum. He said what Rory's thought about Logan in the past. He does need to grow up and stop being a spoiled, rich playboy.

Thought it was funny that Lorelai had a session in the backseat of the car. Too funny! I like that she admitted that she never loved anyone until Luke (namely Chris).

Loved the scene between Luke and Lorelai. It even felt good for me to see her get all that frustration out.

I really hate how this whole season nothing has happened in the episodes until the last 10 minutes. What's the point in watching the whole episode?

[Brandy]

I really hate how this whole season nothing has happened in the episodes until the last 10 minutes. What's the point in watching the whole episode?

I totally agree! Those stupid musicians! Just a total time filler/waster.

But the last ten minutes were pretty awesome. My favorite scene of the entire episode was Rory and Logan's good-bye. I just stopped crying, it was very touching. I wonder what is going to happen with Logan next season (since he's signed on- he must be back on some level). It seemed very much a sign of how much both he and Rory are growing up.

And I was so proud of Lorelai for finally saying everything like that to Luke and I have to say, I've been a Luke fan from the beginning but I want her with Christopher! Luke just pisses me off, get it together man!

I can't believe we have to wait for the fall, ugh....

[Mellow_Water1]

I agree about the troubadors. The only reason it took up so much time was because it was ASP and DP's last show and she said they wanted to jam it in with their favorite music, which I think is really selfish to do, especially for a season finale. I agree that it was way too boring, and I hope DR does a better job next year. I hate it how this show loves to make the finale about someone cheating on someone else. I'm angry at Christopher for not being a friend to Lorelai. I angry at Lorelai, because even though Luke has been a complete jerk this season, he didn't deserve that.

I love Logan and Rory together. They are in such love. But, in this episode, I agreed with what Mitchum said to Rory. Understandable that she's bitter, though.

[Regina Phalange]

My favorite scene of the entire episode was Rory and Logan's good-bye. I just stopped crying, it was very touching.
I agree with this. While we were watching tonight my mother lends over to me and says, "You know how that feels don't you Dorothy" and tears just started rolling down my face. It was the one moment I could truely relate to and think it was very well done.

[Mellow_Water1]

My favorite scene of the entire episode was Rory and Logan's good-bye. I just stopped crying, it was very touching.

I also agree. I've never thought that Alexis did crying scenes well, but Rory's emotions were expressed SO WELL just from the looks on her face. And I loved Logan's reason for not letting her come to the airport. They really love each other. And I'm glad he didn't let himself make the mistake of doing the same thing that Rachel did on the series finale of Friends!

[Regina Phalange]

And I'm glad he didn't let himself make the mistake of doing the same thing that Rachel did on the series finale of Friends!
Okay, Friends freak flying in to hijack.....I don't think Rachel made a mistake by staying in NYC. NYC was where her heart was with Ross and Ema. I think if anything, Carrie on Sex and the City proved what a mistake Rachel could have made had she gone to Paris. [/hijack]

[PookiePrincess]

I have to agree. I've never liked Logan because I thought he was such a spoiled little rich boy. But I liked them in this epi. And AB's acting tonight was the best I've seen from her in quite a while!

I'm glad though that Rory let Logan go and didn't try to stop him. I think she knows that he needs to have his time away and grow up. That right there showed that she did agree with what Mitchum said.

[Mellow_Water1]

Okay, Friends freak flying in to hijack.....I don't think Rachel made a mistake by staying in NYC. NYC was where her heart was with Ross and Ema. I think if anything, Carrie on Sex and the City proved what a mistake Rachel could have made had she gone to Paris. [/hijack]


Agreed; it was a good decision for Ross and Rachel, but it would've been a mistake for Logan to do the same.

[Regina Phalange]

Gotcha, absolutely!

[KaliLily]

When I heard ASP and DP were leaving the show, I was very worried about its future. Now I'm glad they are going. The troubador bit was awful and had no place in the episode. I'm usually up for zany town antics, I even enjoyed last week's "town bit" with Sookie, Jackson and the 68lbs of pot. But the troubador thing was obnoxious "filler." So much more could have been done. There could have been more to the Luke & Lorelai fight, they could have had a scene with Lorelai and Sookie (beyond the "quiet contest," which I did find amusing), heck we could have been shown what transpired with Chris and Lor BEFORE they jumped in the sack...

Of course, as always, I loved all of the scenes with Emily and Richard. And that Linny was great. I loved how they worked her into Lorelai's personal problems.

It'll be interesting to see the fall-out from Lorelai sleeping with Chris while technically still engaged (she did say something along the lines of "this is it" so will she get to use Logan's "we were broken up" excuse?). However, I'm not eagerly anticipating next season's premiere like I was after the 4th and 5th seasons' finales.

On the bright side, at least it wasn't as bad as 7th Heaven's finale! And this season has been no where near as dismal as Charmed. :rolleyes: It just could have been done better. It seemed like this episode was more to satisfy ASP's "final" desires than to further the central storylines and leave us with a nail biting, season finale cliffhanger.

[Whitters20]

Allison-I'll try and recap the last few minutes for Rory and Lorelai.

Rory-Logan wakes her up because he has to leave for the airport. She wants to go with him and he says something like "You can't come with me. If you're there I won't get on that plane". They kiss and she waves goodbye as he goes to the elevator.

Lorelai-After she delivers the marry me now or forget it ultimatum, she leaves and goes to Christopher's. She says she had a bad night and doesn't want to be alone. It shows them in the morning, she is in his bed (sans clothing, he is in boxers). He says bye to Gigi and then climbs back in bed with Lorelai.

It did drive me crazy that nothing happened until the last 10 minutes. It seemed that way all season to me. But it does set things up for next season. They'll have a lot of work to do to wrap things up for both characters in only one season. Lorelai is bound to marry either Luke or Chris and Rory will graduate. I'm very curious to see who Lorelai will end up with. Lauren Graham has said before that she would prefer her character to wind up with Chris. Right now I prefer Chris too but that just doesn't seem to flow with the show. Who knows? I'm going to go crazy waiting for next season.

[JillyBean]

I agree with you guys. Troubadour storyline was booooorrrrring! The whole time I was watching it, I kept thinking about that episode in the first season (I think?) where they declare that one guy as the sole town troubadour. I kept waiting for Taylor to bring that up as the reason to make everyone leave.

I was glad that Lorelai finally told Luke how she was feeling this whole time. I still think he's pretty dense for not figuring anything out before. While I'm a big fan of Christopher (and would rather see her with him than with Luke), I wasn't a fan of how it happened.

Still not a big fan of Logan. Their goodbye scene was pretty good, though. I can see the chemistry between them, which I don't remember seeing before.

Overall a very boring, fairly predictable finale :(

[KaliLily]

I agree with you guys. Troubadour storyline was booooorrrrring! The whole time I was watching it, I kept thinking about that episode in the first season (I think?) where they declare that one guy as the sole town troubadour. I kept waiting for Taylor to bring that up as the reason to make everyone leave.

I was thinking the exact same thing!!!!

[jesseybell]

I was very disappointed by the episode. I thought I was going to be itching for more or for the fall, but I am neither.

The troubadour - was a waste of a season finale

Logan/Rory- I thought the departure would be a cliff hanger so in that case I was disappointed. I am looking forward to see what happens in the fall, but not dieing for it.

Loralei/Luke/Christopher - I like that she stood her ground, but she could have said more about Anna. Luke is an ass. Very predictable ending though. Somehow I just don't think it will carry on to next season - I think it will blow over.

Sad that the season is over, but they could have done SUCH a better job with the finale....

[MrsD108]

:( I missed last night's episode, can anyone fill me in what Luke said to Loralai.

[jeepgirl]

Basically, Luke said NOTHING. That's the problem. But then, Lorelei wouldn't really let him say much of anything, just "yes" or "no." Of which, once again, he said NOTHING, er, neither.

Agreed that the Troubador thing was totally lame.

I LOVE Logan. I LOVE Logan & Rory Together. I agreed w/Mitchum, and so did Rory, and I love how she handled everything from that point on. I LOVED how Logan left Rory. I'm so not like Rory. I would have had a hard time choosing Logan over that other guy back at the beginning of the season, what was his name? The cute one that couldn't pay for his food at the restaurant that one night. But she made the right choice.

I REALLY like Luke, but he frustrates me. I REALLY like Chris, but I don't want Lorelei to end up with him unless she really LOVES him. So far, to my knowledge, she has never thought that way or expressed it.

[MrsD108]

Thanks jeepgirl.

[allison]

Allison-I'll try and recap the last few minutes for Rory and Lorelai.

Rory-Logan wakes her up because he has to leave for the airport. She wants to go with him and he says something like "You can't come with me. If you're there I won't get on that plane". They kiss and she waves goodbye as he goes to the elevator.

Lorelai-After she delivers the marry me now or forget it ultimatum, she leaves and goes to Christopher's. She says she had a bad night and doesn't want to be alone. It shows them in the morning, she is in his bed (sans clothing, he is in boxers). He says bye to Gigi and then climbs back in bed with Lorelai.

It did drive me crazy that nothing happened until the last 10 minutes. It seemed that way all season to me. But it does set things up for next season. They'll have a lot of work to do to wrap things up for both characters in only one season. Lorelai is bound to marry either Luke or Chris and Rory will graduate. I'm very curious to see who Lorelai will end up with. Lauren Graham has said before that she would prefer her character to wind up with Chris. Right now I prefer Chris too but that just doesn't seem to flow with the show. Who knows? I'm going to go crazy waiting for next season.


Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Wrighty26]

I agree- the Troubadour thing was SO dumb. What a waste of time! I love Taylor in small doses and I cannot stand when they focus in on him. There were a couple of episodes this season where I just wanted to shoot the TV.

All of that aside, I am really surprised to say that I really enjoyed both Loralei's and Rory's stories. I definitely idenitified with Rory--I've been there-- and think Alexis Bledel did some of her best acting in that final scene with Logan.

As for Loralei-- I'm so glad that she finally told Luke how she felt. Was running to Chris stupid? YES-- but was it something that Loralei WOULD do-- YES! I thought that was more in line with her character than some of the stuff that's been going on all season.

As much as I was dreading the end of the episode I thought it was well done. Maybe I'm in a minority-- but I'm looking forward to seeing what will happen next season!

[jmvan74]

I'm looking forward to next season to. I want to know how things unfold. *sigh*
I'm kind of annoyed at Christopher. He knows Lor is engaged and he could've said no and still been there for her. Ick.

[jeepgirl]

I'm kind of annoyed at Christopher. He knows Lor is engaged and he could've said no and still been there for her. Ick.


Good point. It kind of makes one lose respect for him. He could see she was vulnerable, anyone could have. Taking advantage of that vulnerability just because its something he wanted, has wanted... is really weak.

[JamBray]

I was a little disappointed by last night's season finale too, and agree with everyone else that the whole troubadour thing was stupid and just a bunch of "filler"...sooo annoying to have to keep fast forwarding through those bits.
I angry at Lorelai, because even though Luke has been a complete jerk this season, he didn't deserve that.
I was too. While I love that she finally stood her ground with Luke and let loose all her feelings, I was surprised and pissed at her for sleeping with Chris. I can see her running to him for comfort, but cheating on Luke (who she said she loved) with Chris? Just really disappointing. I'm interested to see what they'll do with this next season, and if Lor will tell Rory about it.

I thought the scene between Mitchum and Rory was great, and it was nice to see him giving sound reasons as to why he wanted Logan to go to London, rather than just being an ass about it. It's definitely something that Logan needs to do, and it was good to see that Rory agreed with his father, and let Logan go and do what he needed to do.
I really hate how this whole season nothing has happened in the episodes until the last 10 minutes. What's the point in watching the whole episode?
I know. It's like we have to get through all the junk before they show the good stuff. I hope they don't do that next season.

[mgrace]

The musician thing was stupid. Waste of time. I did like that Miss Patty was in this episode, though. :)

Glad that Logan left, although I'm sure he'll be back.

Pretty boring episode--the end was predictable.

[jesseybell]

I ALMOST was expecting Loralei to realize that she had never loved anyone (including Luke). I still just don't get their relationship. Never have. To me the spark just isn't there. He's a great guy, I just don't think he's the one for her.

Also, can they drop the freaking Rory Gilmore building thing. Another ridiculous story line. Plus it takes more $ than they would have spent on the last year or 2 of Yale plus a settlement from lasik eye surgery to have a building named after you.

[Mellow_Water1]

I ALMOST was expecting Loralei to realize that she had never loved anyone (including Luke). I still just don't get their relationship. Never have. To me the spark just isn't there. He's a great guy, I just don't think he's the one for her.


Me too. I can see her saying that he's the best friend she's ever had, but I just don't see chemistry beyond that. I was one who rooted for them to go out when they were still friends, but it's just not working.

[fierypyropixy]

Also, can they drop the freaking Rory Gilmore building thing. Another ridiculous story line. Plus it takes more $ than they would have spent on the last year or 2 of Yale plus a settlement from lasik eye surgery to have a building named after you.

Oh, I don't know, I kind of liked it . . . a bit of the old zany infusion.

My question is . . . did anyone else think Lorelai (wait, Lauren) looked pregnant in about half the show? We could attribute it to the high-waisted empire-type dress she was wearing (they certainly do that to anyone with actual boobs), but it was so marked that I rewound a bit and kept trying to analyze . . .

Then again, the dvr is on the widescreen aspect tv . . . did anyone else think that though?

[SD601]

Yes, I thought Loralei looked preggo, although I'm sure we would have heard something either in a spoiler or IRL.

The lack of chemistry between Luke and Loralei kills me. I was watching the reruns on family channel (season 1) and the sparks between them used to be great. It took 4 seasons for them to get together, and I was cheering the entire time, since I thought they belonged together.

But now, Loralei has much more chemistry with Christopher! I mean, they were great at dinner, and although I was disappointed that they slept together, they do seem right for each other now. But it's a total change in this season! Grrrr...I used to really like Luke...and now they made me hate him.

Definitely needed more of a cliffhanger. Did anyone notice Chloe from 24 as one of the singers outside of Luke's? Not the best voice!

[fierypyropixy]

Definitely needed more of a cliffhanger. Did anyone notice Chloe from 24 as one of the singers outside of Luke's? Not the best voice!

Oh, I loved seeing Mary Lynn Rajskub (hate spelling the last name though!). She and Sam Phillips were the only two troubadours I recognized right off . . .I guess I don't have the same musical tastes as the Palladinos . . . Never seen MLR sing though . . . but it was better than the man with the guy playing the keyboard!

ETA: AND, ooh, did you remember that she was in the little film that Kirk made for the episode where Lor and Rory had to pick the town film? Completely forgot about that . . .

[JamBray]

Yup, I thought Lauren looked pregnant as well.
Did anyone notice Chloe from 24 as one of the singers outside of Luke's? Not the best voice!
Yes, and funny how she had the same attitude that she does on 24. ;)

[KaliLily]

My question is . . . did anyone else think Lorelai (wait, Lauren) looked pregnant in about half the show? We could attribute it to the high-waisted empire-type dress she was wearing (they certainly do that to anyone with actual boobs), but it was so marked that I rewound a bit and kept trying to analyze . . .

Then again, the dvr is on the widescreen aspect tv . . . did anyone else think that though?

No, but if Lorelai gets knocked up by Chris (again) I'm going to scream!

[cocoa_femme]

No, but if Lorelai gets knocked up by Chris (again) I'm going to scream!
I was so thinking this! That would be interesting.

[stevesbabygirl]

As adorable as Chris is (he was at a basketball game that I went to), and as much of a fan as I was for the two of them in other seasons, I'm a little miffed by the fact that they slept together. Even though she went through some crap with Luke, she shouldn't have given up on that so easily. I realize that she's frustrated, and feels like he's just giving excuse after excuse, but they've both kept quiet about the whole situation, and Lorelei has never told Luke how she really feels about it. I think that's crappy, because Luke would see it as coming out of nowhere. He does need to let the Anna/April thing go a little bit though.

[jeepgirl]

Did anyone notice Chloe from 24 as one of the singers outside of Luke's?

Thanks for clearing that up for me! I couldn't figure out where I had seen her from, although I've only seen season 1, and a couple of epis from season 2 of 24.

As for the preggo thing, I didn't notice it, but I wouldn't be surprised if they have her preggo from "this encounter" w/Christopher. Hmmm.... that would pretty much point things in a different direction for next season, eh?

[stevesbabygirl]

Who is the lady who played Linny? I know I've seen her somewhere before.

[nordey]

;) Does anyone else think that maybe Mrs. Gilmore invited the psychologist to dinner with Christopher to make Lor jealous???

Now that she see's a chink in the armor of the Luke & Lor relationship (a la last week's breakdown at the real estate office), she's back to trying to break them up for good. I think the whole dinner was a set-up to make Lorelei jealous .

[ivory]

Who is the lady who played Linny? I know I've seen her somewhere before. It's Jan from The Office, with very different hair. This was bugging me too, but I came upon the answer in the television without pity recap. I don't know how long it would have taken me to figure that out on my own.

[MSH]

;) Does anyone else think that maybe Mrs. Gilmore invited the psychologist to dinner with Christopher to make Lor jealous???

Now that she see's a chink in the armor of the Luke & Lor relationship (a la last week's breakdown at the real estate office), she's back to trying to break them up for good. I think the whole dinner was a set-up to make Lorelei jealous .
My coworker and I were just talking about this. I definately think Emily could be up to something. I mean if she truely felt sorry for Lor why would she invite Linny and Chris for this very obvious setup during Friday night dinner?

I have always had a soft spot for Chris and have wanted Lor and Chris to get back together for a long time. However, I hate to see it happen this way.

[fierypyropixy]

I was so thinking this! That would be interesting.

OR, what if she leaves Luke for Chris, and THEN realizes she's pregnant with Luke's baby!

Mwahahahaha, soap opera twists for Gilmore Girls!

(just kidding everybody, don't take it seriously.)

[PookiePrincess]

I don't think LG looked pregnant, I just think it's the style of the dresses she's been wearing. I have top with an empire waist and it makes me look pg and I'm way skinny.

Honestly, I think next year will be much better than this year. Now that the Sher-Pas are gone, I think the soap-opera-like storylines are gone. (hopefully for good!)

[jesseybell]

I think she looked pregnant as well (glad I wasn't the only one) - not that I saw a bump but the style of dresses (plural) they had her in made her look so. I'd much rather have it be Chris' baby. I said pages ago I SO badly wanted them together at the season finale with Sookie's wedding and then his girlfriend got pg. I think so too that Emily did it to make Loralei jealous, not to try to fix up Christopher.

[stevesbabygirl]

Thank you ivory!

[vwinkel]

I'm kind of annoyed at Christopher. He knows Lor is engaged and he could've said no and still been there for her. Ick.
How do we know what Lor and Chris discussed? Lorelei could have told him that everything was called off. Which according to the end of her discussion with Luke, it is.

I'm upset at Luke for letting her walk away after telling her he doesn't want to elope.

I loved the Logan good bye scene. I thought his reasoning for not letting Rory go to the airport was sweet.

I have always had a soft spot for Chris and have wanted Lor and Chris to get back together for a long time. However, I hate to see it happen this way.
Me too. This just throws another complicated log on their fire. They need their stuff straight before starting up again.

[Kingdono]

I thought Lauren looked pregnant too.

I actually noticed this a few weeks ago when Luke and April went to DC. When they were at the truck I got a glimps of it and she kept hold ing that damn bag in front of her. However I didn't notice it again until the finale.

[PookiePrincess]

How do we know what Lor and Chris discussed? Lorelei could have told him that everything was called off. Which according to the end of her discussion with Luke, it is.

Everything was not called off. Lorelai was mad and was ranting at Luke, something she should have done months ago. Nothing was decided and nothing was called off. They didn't break up. She didn't give her ring back. Her last words were, "I have to go." Maybe in Lorelai's head everything is over, but she can't just assume it is and jump into bed with someone else. (Hello, remember Logan's same situation?)

I'm in the camp that does think it's kinda slimy of Chris. He knew Lorelai was vulnerable. I'm not saying she wasn't in the wrong, but who in their right mind would want someone in those conditions? It's obvious from the very last of the scene that Lorelai wasn't happy about whatever happened, and Chris was.

[Kristen&Cary]

It's obvious from the very last of the scene that Lorelai wasn't happy about whatever happened, and Chris was.


I was just going to post the same thing.

[cocoa_femme]

It's obvious from the very last of the scene that Lorelai wasn't happy about whatever happened, and Chris was.

I guess I'm in the minority, then. I kinda feel bad for Christopher. I think Lorelai gave him the impression that it was over with her and Luke. Then they slept together and now Chris thinks that he and Lor will be together.

[PookiePrincess]

I guess I'm in the minority, then. I kinda feel bad for Christopher. I think Lorelai gave him the impression that it was over with her and Luke. Then they slept together and now Chris thinks that he and Lor will be together.

I think Chris has been waiting for that, though. If you remember back to Wedding Bell Blues, he told Luke that Lorelai was with him FOR NOW and that Chris and Lorelai belonged together. I think Chris has always been waiting for an opportunity for he and Lorelai to get together. But, even if he was given the impression they had broken up, who wants to start a real relationship out of a rebound moment? Lorelai was vulnerable. I see it as he took advantage of a weak moment and thinks something will come of it. But, I think next season Lorelai will regret what happened. Heck, it looked like she regretted it the moment she did it.

[jnettie]

I'm really disappointed in Lorelie and I'm disappointed in the writers. Luke is dense, we all know this, and it will take a while for this to sink into his head. Lorelie jumping into bed with Christopher was bad bad bad. Now, why would Luke want to reconcile with her. Forget Chris's motivations. Lorelie is not the cheating type and she just CHEATED! I'm really upset with this turn in the show.

[ivory]

I also didn't like that it happened with Gigi around. I would have thought at least one of them would have better judgment. And then it was treated as merely comical that Gigi saw Lorelai (clearly topless) in the bed. Gigi's nightgown comment was hysterical, but in real life that situation would be horrendous.

[summerbride2005]

I was so sad when Logan got on the elevator. I know he screwed up really badly before, but I love Rory and Logan together. Lorelai with Chris was just wrong! I couldn't believe that she did that!!! I thought that the last shot of her looked like regret too. Luke should have introduced April to his fiance at the beginning, but Lorelai just messed everything up by being with Chris.

[jmvan74]

I think Chris has been waiting for that, though. If you remember back to Wedding Bell Blues, he told Luke that Lorelai was with him FOR NOW and that Chris and Lorelai belonged together. I think Chris has always been waiting for an opportunity for he and Lorelai to get together. But, even if he was given the impression they had broken up, who wants to start a real relationship out of a rebound moment? Lorelai was vulnerable. I see it as he took advantage of a weak moment and thinks something will come of it. But, I think next season Lorelai will regret what happened. Heck, it looked like she regretted it the moment she did it.

ITA! Even if Lorelai said they called it off, Chris knew there were feelings there and it was so painfully obvious that she was distraught. He completely took advantage of the situation.

[suzubeane]

If I wasn't glad that ASP was leaving before (and I was) I would certainly be glad now. She has totally ruined most of her own characters (who before now were layered and complex, but now are just insanely unpredictable and incongruent.)

How did Rory stage that whole party in such a short amount of time? Where did she get the resources? And the old Rory would have *never* suggested to Mitchum she was the reason he was sending Logan to England. The old Rory would have had something subtle and intelligent to say that would have left him thinking - not having the last word. (Although it was a good set up for why she couldn't tell Logan to stay when he asked her to.) Oh, and would the old Rory avoided his family? Would she have stayed involved with a guy whose family she would never get along with? It's just implausible this way.

Why would Lorelei spend several months tight-lipped about Luke's daughter? Why would she follow that up with a big scene in the diner? (She's never that shrill, but when she does have those breakdowns, it's never never in front of other people. Poor Lauren Graham didn't even know how to play the scene!)

I just hope the new writers can pull this one out.

BTW, has anyone considered that maybe nothing happend between Lorelei and Chris?

[ManteoChik]

BTW, has anyone considered that maybe nothing happend between Lorelei and Chris?

This is what I was thinking. For some reason I just didn't get the feeling that they had "done it".

[PookiePrincess]

BTW, has anyone considered that maybe nothing happend between Lorelei and Chris?

That's what I'm holding out for. I'm hoping David Rosenthal can put some sort of spin on it (backtrack, if you will) and make it out to be that they didn't sleep together. It's hard to imagine how he'd do that, but in Gilmore-land it's very possible. Though, WB could have made it easier on him by cutting that last scene after ASP was out the door, but then we wouldn't have the drama over what really happened and what will happen next all summer.

[Rose]

She's never that shrill, but when she does have those breakdowns, it's never never in front of other people. Poor Lauren Graham didn't even know how to play the scene!)

Yah, that was very obvious. That was a horrible scene.

[jnettie]

How did Rory stage that whole party in such a short amount of time?
And what's more, why did she lie to Lorelai about it? She said she was taking Logan out to dinner. What possible reason would she have to say that? Maybe they wanted to suprise us with the party, too, but why do it with a lie? That really bugged me.
he old Rory would have had something subtle and intelligent to say that would have left him thinking - not having the last word.
The old Rory wouldn't have made it all about her. It would have been about what Mitchum was doing to Logan by forcing him into a job he doesn't want, not "why do you hate me." :rolleyes:

[kcjaime]

And what's more, why did she lie to Lorelai about it?

My impression was that she was planning to take Logan to dinner, but after talking to Mitchum and realizing that Logan really SHOULD go, and knowing that he didn't want to, she decided to throw the party to encourage him that it was a good thing. Sure, that begs the question of how did she plan it so quickly, but that's just what I assumed, in the fictional world of my mind! :p

[JamBray]

BTW, has anyone considered that maybe nothing happend between Lorelei and Chris?
Yeah, I've been thinking about this and hoping that they didn't go "all the way", but Chris' smile after getting back into bed is making it hard for me to think this. I wonder if they'll start next season with Lor at the door and walk us through what actually did go on.

[ivory]

I don't see much of a difference if they actually hed sex or not. She's in his bed and is clearly not fully dressed. Sure, that part could be explained away, but then Christopher gets right in and snuggles up, which implies some preceding physical intimacy. I believe we saw enough to warrant the guilty look on Lorelai's face.

[jmvan74]

I don't see much of a difference if they actually hed sex or not. She's in his bed and is clearly not fully dressed. Sure, that part could be explained away, but then Christopher gets right in and snuggles up, which implies some preceding physical intimacy. I believe we saw enough to warrant the guilty look on Lorelai's face.
I would love to think that "nothing" happened, but I think Ivory says it best.

[PookiePrincess]

My impression was that she was planning to take Logan to dinner, but after talking to Mitchum and realizing that Logan really SHOULD go, and knowing that he didn't want to, she decided to throw the party to encourage him that it was a good thing. Sure, that begs the question of how did she plan it so quickly, but that's just what I assumed, in the fictional world of my mind! :p

That was exactly what I thought happened.

[jnettie]

My impression was that she was planning to take Logan to dinner, but after talking to Mitchum and realizing that Logan really SHOULD go, and knowing that he didn't want to, she decided to throw the party to encourage him that it was a good thing. Sure, that begs the question of how did she plan it so quickly, but that's just what I assumed, in the fictional world of my mind! :p
But there wasn't enough time for that. The elevator scene was on the way to Friday night dinner. And she said something to Fin and Colin on her way out that later sort of implied that had something pre-planned, like "don't keep my boy out too long," or something...like it was their job to keep him out of the apartment until the party, which it was.

I'm not saying that there's more to the lie, just that it didn't make any sense. Or it's really bad continutity and writing.

[PookiePrincess]

But there wasn't enough time for that. The elevator scene was on the way to Friday night dinner. And she said something to Fin and Colin on her way out that later sort of implied that had something pre-planned, like "don't keep my boy out too long," or something...like it was their job to keep him out of the apartment until the party, which it was.

I'm not saying that there's more to the lie, just that it didn't make any sense. Or it's really bad continutity and writing.

I remember what I read somewhere else that all made sense to me. Rory planned on going out to a quiet romantic dinner with Logan as an intimate moment. While they were at dinner, the plan was for Colin and Finn to decorate the apartment. Since Logan was kept out so late by his family, Rory set up the party and had Colin and Finn bring him home for the party. Maybe the party had always been part of the plan, but she just made it more over the top so he would go to London.

[jnettie]

That makes sense...but you had to read that backstory someplace else. ;) I did no such reading and therefor was very confused. None of that was even implied!

[PookiePrincess]

That makes sense...but you had to read that backstory someplace else. ;) I did no such reading and therefor was very confused. None of that was even implied!

Oh, yeah. I think I read it on Television Without Pity. But, I would never have thought of all that myself. I'd have thought it was another continuity problem. :)

[PookiePrincess]

Bumping this up because there are new spoilers and the new season is set to start September 26th!

Some various spoilers I've found, there's some info, but not much...







-The first six episodes are going to be very, very, very dramatic for Luke and Lorelai. (Ask Asuiello)

-They are calling back the troubadours from the end of last season so they can pick up where they left off... (Fanbolt)

-The first new epi is called "The Long Morrow"

-07/14 - Paris starts a small business to help student prep for the SATs. She meets a student named Kaitlin and her mother. After being brutally honest about what she thinks of Kaitlin, she agrees to help her study for the SATs. She then has the mother and the daughter take an aptitude test to know what potential Kaitlin has and what comes from genetics. At the diner, Luke is particularly irritated especially when a customer tries to leave without paying his bill. (After he throws all the customers out) When Taylor's Thunderbird is stranded in front of the diner, Taylor wants it to stay there until the insurance company takes a look at it. (Though I read the sides and it says Taylor's car is IN the diner) Luke must decide if he wants it towed or not. Being depressed and unsure, Luke can't make a decision. (Spoilerfix)


I might be back with more later. They're having a CW press tour with Dave Rosenthal, Lauren Graham, and Alexis Bledel (and Ausiello is blogging it).

[JillyBean]

Regarding the second spoiler... why oh why are they going to continue with that stupid troubadour plotline?

[Mellow_Water1]

PookiePrincess, I found the link to the press tour chat that you mentioned. This link to the chat contains spoilers to GG and other shows:


http://community.tvguide.com/forum.jspa?forumID=700000049

Be back later with my responses in white!

[PookiePrincess]

Thanks, Mellow Water. If you hadn't posted that, I'd have probably forgotten to come back in here tonight!
Spoilers from the press tour:






Here's a summary of what Ausiello found out for those of you who didn't read the link above:

OK, just had a 15-minute interview with Rosenthal. I'll transcribe and post later, but here are the highlights: Matt Czuchry is NOT leaving the show. Logan and Rory will have a long-distance relationship. Lorelai and Christopher DID have sex in the finale. Marty will be back. It sounds like Luke and Lorelai will be broken up --at least during the first part of the season. He's aware that fans are not happy about how last season ended.


I guess I'm glad that they're not going to try to explain away what happened at the end of last season and say it was a dream or something. I am glad that they're picking up the next day (except that the damn troubadours will be back...annoying!). The first part of next season should be good!

[lonestardawn]

I just found the CC site yesterday and I am so excited to find this thread. I started watching GG in the 4th season. I have been watching the DVDs with my roommate and we finally finished watching all 5 seasons just last week. I can't wait for September 26th!

[jmvan74]

Yeah! Thanks for all of the goodies! I can't wait for September 26th!:D

[Mellow_Water1]

E! Interviews with the "Logans of the CW." (http://www.eonline.com/thevine/player.jsp?channelID=enewsandgossip&mediaID=16494)

The interview doesn't have spoilers, but Matt Czuchry talks about his character in the upcoming season in regards to how Logan has changed, his relationship with Rory, and what he hopes will happen by the end of the series.

[Rose]

I don't really like his look in that interview but I am looking forward to more Rory & Logan.

[alibaba]

I don't really like his look in that interview but I am looking forward to more Rory & Logan.

Yes, exactly. I'm not liking his hair at all in that interview. Can't wait to see how the story line turns out though! :)

[Southlooper]

Comments on spoilers on white:

Marty is coming back? I liked him. I wonder how he will figure into the Logan-Rory long distance relationship?

For next season I'm more interested in knowing what happens to Rory than Lorelai. Although I think I'm one of the only ones out there who liked the majority of the lastyear's storylines, the Lorelai-Luke story bored me in the end. At this point, if I had to choose for her in the end, I'd choose Christopher.

[PookiePrincess]

Here are some more spoilers from Ausiello regarding the first episode's script.





I've Read the First Gilmore Girls Script!
Don't ask me how I got it. Or from whom. But I got it.

By "it," I'm referring to the most sought-after 77 pages in Hollywood right now — the script for the season premiere of Gilmore Girls, penned by David S. Rosenthal. OK, so maybe "the most sought-after" is a slight exaggeration, but it's definitely been the most sought after by me. You see, this script contains answers to some of the new season's biggest questions. Among them: Can Rosenthal mimic Team Palladino's signature, rapid-fire rhythms? How will last May's controversial finale affect Luke and Lorelai? Does the boss favor some supporting characters over others? And, most importantly, is the thing any good?

Let's start with that last question first. I'm happy and greatly relieved — and, if I'm being completely honest, a smidge shocked — to report that yes, it's good. In fact, it's better than good — it's great.

Obviously, I can't get too specific. As it is, Warner Bros. and CW have probably already hired a bounty hunter to track down the source of the script leak. But here are some things I learned about Mr. Rosenthal after reading his debut as show-runner, with a few spoilers mixed in for fun.

He has Palladino blood in him.
Translation: He's got Amy and Dan's style down pat. When I finished the script, I almost had to look back at the byline to make sure the last name was Rosenthal and not Palladino. Honestly, I could not tell the difference. Besides nailing the banter, several of his one-liners were classic, laugh-out-loud Palladino. On the downside, like his predecessors, he overestimates viewers' appetite for one Taylor Doose.

He's a fan of Luke and Lorelai.
Now I'm not going to lie to you: The episode is going to be a tough one for Luke and Lorelai fans to watch. Really tough. Based on how the season ended — and the fact that Rosenthal confirmed to me last week that Lorelai and Christopher did indeed have sex — that much was a given. But I think he handled the fallout from Christophergate with unbelievable grace and dignity — particularly as it pertains to Luke and Lorelai as a couple. Let me put it this way: The episode left no doubt in my mind that Lorelai and Luke are meant for each other.

He'll always have Paris.
Liza Weil told me herself at the CW party last week that Rosenthal had given her her longest scene ever in the premiere — and she wasn't exaggerating. It's six pages! But it's not the length that stood out, it's the way Rosenthal managed to capture Paris' trademark vim, vigor and bite. Plus, I can't think of a more perfect business venture for Rory's sometime roommate than an SAT-prep course. The possibilities for clashes with stupidity are endless!

He's a hopeless romantic.
And Logan and Rory fans will be swooning as a result. Sure, the episode finds them on opposite continents, but Rosenthal has found a way to bring them closer together than I think they've ever been. All I'll say is his method is sweet, utterly romantic, and it ties in with the episode title "The Long Morrow." And the end result should put Matt Czuchry fans' mind at ease (at least for the short term).

Other scoopy treats from the episode:


Rory and Lorelai spend some quality time together at a *a********* c****

There's a very silly subplot involving Michel, Sookie and *r* ********g.

Lorelai makes a passing reference to the title of one of the best Gilmore Girls episodes ever.

I was left with the impression that there will be a significant time lapse between Episodes 1 and 2.

Emily, Richard, Lane, April and Anna are MIA, but the rest of the supporting cast is pretty much accounted for.

Having said all this, there's no guarantee our Girls won't go to hell in a handbasket beginning with the second episode. But let's celebrate one win at a time. We got over the first hurdle. Rosenthal is clearly a talented guy who gets our little show. That's a good start.

[KaliLily]

After reading the spoliers, I officially excited for the premiere of season 6! Is it September yet?

I normally don't read spoilers for my favorite shows - and with Alias and Charmed ending last Spring, that pretty much just leaves GG on that list - but I seem to have changed...sortof. I went through the spoiler post highlighting one line at a time in case I decided I was getting too much info. Don't want to spoil my viewing! Honestly, it didn't really give much away. It was like an old-fashoned strip-tease. :p

[PookiePrincess]

KaliLily, GG is really the only show that I love spoilers for. Especially this season because I want everything to turn out okay from last year's craptastic season.

[KaliLily]

Yeah, a lot of last season was really disappointing. I understand the need for the Lorelai/Rory struggle and Luke/Lorelai problems. Lorelai and Rory have been tied together so tight it was natural for Rory to need to break away and "find herself." I also agree with Lauren Graham that Luke & Lorelai coasting smoothly from now on could have ruined the show. But I also think it could have been written/handled better.

I also think that season 5 being so good just made season 6 look even worse. Here's hoping for a stellar season 7 so we get a season 8!! :D

[KaliLily]

Anyone else watch GG reruns last night and catch the preview for the season premiere? Looks good!

[PookiePrincess]

I did see it! It made me excited for the new season, but I have mixed feelings so far about what I know about the first 5 epis.

[PookiePrincess]

Spoilers from Ausiello about the first episode...















I've Seen the Gilmore Girls Season Premiere!

Imagine finding a Christmas present under the tree — and knowing it could very well turn out to be a lump of coal. That's how I felt when a DVD labeled "Gilmore Girls Season 7 Premiere" recently came into my possession nearly a month before its Sept. 26 airdate. As you know, I had read — and loved — Dave Rosenthal's inaugural script as show-runner. But that was no guarantee that the gold wouldn't get tarnished, or altogether lost, in translation. So while I was hopeful, I was fearful, too.

Well, I must've been a good boy this year because Santa came through. For the most part.

First, the good (and it's a biggie): The episode looked, sounded and felt like a typical hour of Gilmore Girls. Actually, I would rank it up there with some of the show's most entertaining episodes. The pacing and tone were what we have come to expect — and love — and, despite all the sturm und drang of the Luke/Lorelai/Christopher triangle, it was funny. Very funny. At times, even hysterical. And there was also a fair share of romance courtesy of Rory, Logan and a two-foot-tall rocket ship (yes, that's the flying object I've been hinting at).

Other highlights (warning: spoilers abound):

* Any scene that ends with Babette explaining to Lorelai how she'd like her "intimates" dried is a winner in my book.

* Paris's SAT-tutoring business exceeded all of my comedic expectations. When a mother of one of the control freak's potential pupils asks why they both have to take a preliminary aptitude test, Paris barks, "Basically, I need to know how much of this is her fault and how much of it is yours." The funniest Paris line is also the one most likely to fly right past you, so pay really close attention. (BTW, I hereby nominate Liza Weil for president. Of anything. Just put her in charge of something. The girl's a genius.)

* Taylor's decision to install a red-light camera to catch lawbreakers leads to all sorts of frivolity, not to mention one of the funniest Kirk sight gags ever.

* Although some of you will likely groan at the mere thought of Lorelai and Rory playing a sport, the Girls' racquetball game/exercise in distraction works precisely because it is so preposterous. And if you had any doubt whether Rosenthal could nail AS-P's signature prose, consider this line, in which Rory tells Lorelai that there was nothing good about her tearful good-bye to Logan: "It's a very poorly-named ritual," she laments. "It was a bad-bye, very bad-bye." Speaking of Rory and her beau, the aforementioned rocket was a gift from London-bound Logan and is, initially, a source of great angst for his favorite Girl. I don't want to reveal why, but I will say the symbolic gesture ultimately brings them closer together than ever. (Hint: It all goes back to the episode title, "The Long Morrow.")

Ironically, the weakest part of the episode was something boss man Rosenthal likely had little control over: Lauren Graham's emotionally guarded performance. Don't get me wrong, LG was at her gloriously pithy best. And a summer away in Virginia shooting Evan Almighty clearly suited her; she looks even more fetching than usual, if that's possible. But much of the episode called for Lorelai to be distraught over what she had done to Luke (i.e. bedding Christopher), and, unfortunately, LG rarely gives you a sense of that anguish. Lorelai behaves as if she had just broken up with some poor schlub she dated for a few weeks — a Max, for crying out loud — rather than the love of her life. The final, heartbreaking scene should have torn Lorelai's insides up but instead elicits little more than a frown. The way it plays, she's not devastated, she pities Luke. Huh?

Perhaps a line change in the episode may shed some light on the show's direction this season – and, possibly, the increased creative role LG has in this post-Palladino era. In a telephone conversation with Christopher, Lorelai — according to Rosenthal's original script — told her ex this "will never happen again." This, of course, being the dirty deed. But on screen, the line was delivered as, "I don't think it should happen again."

That's a big difference. And not a positive one, IMHO. Regardless of where you fall in the Luke vs. Christopher debate, I think we can all agree that it's extremely out of character for Lorelai to even entertain the idea of falling back into the sack with Christopher mere hours after the original sin was committed. If Lorelai loves Luke the way we were led to believe she does, she would be disgusted with herself and would have instantly rejected such a notion – regardless of where the exes are headed later this season.

But I'm willing to forgive such a glaring inconsistency because the rest of Rosenthal's Gilmore debut is such a smashing success.

Phew.

[jmvan74]

WOW! I really can't wait for the premiere!

[JamBray]

I saw the previews last night for Season 7, and I have to say that I was disappointed to hear Lorelai say that she slept with Christopher, as I was soooo hoping it was going to be a dream or something. Although Luke was being an ass last season, and I was really not digging him, I still didn't want this to happen. Man, how will they recover?

Two weeks to go!

[msnicolea]

I am firmly in Camp Christopher--Luke does nothing for me and the way he treated Lorelai last season was inexcusable. Plus, I'm a sucker for the whole 'first love" thing.

[KaliLily]

I am firmly in Camp Christopher--Luke does nothing for me and the way he treated Lorelai last season was inexcusable. Plus, I'm a sucker for the whole 'first love" thing.

I'm on the fence. The new season may help me pick a side.

[PookiePrincess]

I'm in the Luke camp. For me, a half of a season where the Palladinos wrote Luke to be an ass aren't nearly as bad as Christopher being an ass off and on for all of Rory's life or the past 7 seasons that we've seen. I look at it from the dad perspective and for the most part he wasn't there for her. I don't think he deserves to be with Lorelai either.

[EmilyBronte]

I am firmly in Camp Christopher--Luke does nothing for me and the way he treated Lorelai last season was inexcusable. Plus, I'm a sucker for the whole 'first love" thing.

Ditto.

I'm so excited for this season to get started!

[MrsD108]

Also with Camp Christopher.
This is my favorite show and I can not wait for it to start.:D

[ManteoChik]

I'm in Camp Christopher too!

I think that once he grew up and had the same thing happen to him that he did to Lorelai (his wife leaving him with baby to raise alone) he realized how much of an ass he was and he's really tried to redeam himself. I think he always loved Lorelai.

[JillyBean]

I am firmly in Camp Christopher--Luke does nothing for me and the way he treated Lorelai last season was inexcusable. Plus, I'm a sucker for the whole 'first love" thing.

Same here. Luke was such a butt last season. I'd much rather see her with someone like Chris.

[Sazoo]

Same here. Luke was such a butt last season. I'd much rather see her with someone like Chris.Me too! I was so mad at Luke last season. :mad:

But I have to admit that I've only been watching GG for the past 4 seasons, not from the beginning, so I'm not as turned off by the idea of Christopher & Lorelai being together as other fans who have watched the show from the beginning & presumably saw more of the pain that he caused Lorelai/Rory over the years when he was being more of a jerk, or whatever. These days he seems like he's really getting his act together, & he seems like he might be more emotionally available & mature than Luke. *shrug*

[Rosebud]

I like Christopher.... but I don't think there's any way the GG writing staff would let Lorelai end up with him. If you look at the overall story arc of the series, I think it's pretty clear that Lorelai and Luke are going to end up together. However, I also think that making Luke such a jerk last season was a really bad move because it completely alienated the audience. They're going to have to do some work now to turn that around.

But hey, almost everyone hated Logan when he first came into Rory's life, and now he's a sympathetic, likeable character. So, I think they can do the same for Luke. They just need to do it quick, since this is the last season.

[PookiePrincess]

I know everyone hates Luke because of last season, but I look at it more as I hate how Amy Sherman Palladino wrote him. Hell, I hate how she/they wrote everyone's character last year, including Rory and Lorelai. Luke and Lorelai will get back together, there's no doubt in my mind.

I also wouldn't count on this being the last season. They have too much storyline left to make this the last season. They'll spend the first half of this one fixing what ASP did last year. I also think with the new network, they'd easily do a season 8...as long as they can get LG and AB back. And with the flexibility of Rosenthal, I don't think that would be too big of a problem.

[ignutzz]

Quite frankly, I think Lorelei is as much to blame for the L/L issues as Luke is and I have to agree with Pookie that ASP really screwed up the characters last season.

Although I like Christopher, I like Luke better and I'm hoping Rosenthal will have his character grow and mature they way Christopher has over the seasons.

[jnettie]

I like Christopher.... but I don't think there's any way the GG writing staff would let Lorelai end up with him. If you look at the overall story arc of the series, I think it's pretty clear that Lorelai and Luke are going to end up together. However, I also think that making Luke such a jerk last season was a really bad move because it completely alienated the audience. They're going to have to do some work now to turn that around.

But hey, almost everyone hated Logan when he first came into Rory's life, and now he's a sympathetic, likeable character. So, I think they can do the same for Luke. They just need to do it quick, since this is the last season.

You know, when you go backwards, you can see how great Luke and Lorelai are together. I've been watching 1-5 all summer (yeah, I'm a looser!) and you really start to love them together again.

Also, Logan ain't so bad in retrospect. He comes off as a jerk at first, but he's quite charming and you see why Rory would fall for him. I just watched that first Life and Death Bergade episode where they jump off the tower. I would TOTALLY fall in love with Logan in that situation. ;)

But it also reminds me that I miss Marty.

[Southlooper]

You know, when you go backwards, you can see how great Luke and Lorelai are together. I've been watching 1-5 all summer (yeah, I'm a looser!) and you really start to love them together again.

I'm a looser too! ;) I've been watching the reruns since April. I can't believe it's taken such a short time to get thrrough 5 seasons.


Also, Logan ain't so bad in retrospect. He comes off as a jerk at first, but he's quite charming and you see why Rory would fall for him. I just watched that first Life and Death Bergade episode where they jump off the tower. I would TOTALLY fall in love with Logan in that situation. ;)

But it also reminds me that I miss Marty.

Yes, watching how the whole Logan situation developed, I can see why she picked him. I did like Marty too.

I think Luke and Lorelai will end up together. I think ASP made their situation really bad so they can work next season to make their relationship really good. I guess I am one of the few who didn't think last season was THAT bad.

As much as I love this show, I hope this is the end. I can't see it being the same after Rory graduates from Yale.

[bethnjim]

When does the new series start??

[ignutzz]

jnettie I have GG set to record all of the reruns on ABC family. I LOVE rewatching the older shows and you're right about how good the R/L & L/L relationships were when they started.


bethnjim New season starts Tues. Sept. 26 at 8pm. (with Veronica Mars immediately following!).

[KaliLily]

I haven't been working since a month before we moved to VA. Since finally settling into our new home, I've been watching GG reruns on ABC Family religiously. I'd say I've been doing that for about 1 1/2 years now. It's an addiction. I really need to start working again. :p

[JamBray]

You know, when you go backwards, you can see how great Luke and Lorelai are together. I've been watching 1-5 all summer (yeah, I'm a looser!) and you really start to love them together again.

Also, Logan ain't so bad in retrospect. He comes off as a jerk at first, but he's quite charming and you see why Rory would fall for him. I just watched that first Life and Death Bergade episode where they jump off the tower. I would TOTALLY fall in love with Logan in that situation. ;)

But it also reminds me that I miss Marty.
I've been watching the reruns as well (have them TIVO'd :o ), and it's so nice to see what L&L were like back then and know that they really are good together.

I agree about Logan too, and realized that I actually do like him for Rory, and can also see why she would fall for him.

I miss Marty too! :)
I think that once he grew up and had the same thing happen to him that he did to Lorelai (his wife leaving him with baby to raise alone) he realized how much of an ass he was and he's really tried to redeam himself.
Yeah, but then he made an ass out of himself again at the renewal vows of Richard and Emily. I agree that Chris can be charming, but I have always hated how Lor will almost always drop everything for him, and the power that he seems to hold over her grates on me. It's like she becomes this weak, shell-of-herself person when she's around him...blech!

I just think it was rather slimy of Chris to take advantage of Lor's vulnerabilty at the end of last season. Is she blameless? Of course not, but between him witnessing her pain at Lane's wedding, and then having her show up drunk at his house? I don't know...I just think he should have put her in another room (no matter how much he wanted her) and spoken with her about things in the morning.

[PookiePrincess]

I just think it was rather slimy of Chris to take advantage of Lor's vulnerabilty at the end of last season. Is she blameless? Of course not, but between him witnessing her pain at Lane's wedding, and then having her show up drunk at his house? I don't know...I just think he should have put her in another room (no matter how much he wanted her) and spoken with her about things in the morning.

Bingo! He's been trying to be with Lorelai since season 1. He knew how invested she was in Luke. If he really thought things were over between them, he would have waited until she calmed down and really knew what she wanted. I think it's slimy that he used the situation to his advantage. I would never want to be with someone because of a rebound situation. I just don't think Christopher is some stand up guy at all.

[JamBray]

Well tonight's the big night and I still have no CW! :( :mad: If anyone knows a place I can go and download the episode after it airs, could you let me know? TIA. :)

[ignutzz]

JamBray That's really weird. For us, channel-wise, there was no change. WB just started showing CW graphics instead. Sorry I don't know anywhere to download (it's not on iTunes) but there will probably be bootleg items up on YouTube tomorrrow.

[JamBray]

JamBray That's really weird. For us, channel-wise, there was no change. WB just started showing CW graphics instead. Sorry I don't know anywhere to download (it's not on iTunes) but there will probably be bootleg items up on YouTube tomorrrow.
Yeah, it has something to do with DirecTV's contract with them...whatever. :p I'll check YouTube tomorrow, and hopefully they'll have it. Thanks ignutzz. :)

[jnettie]

Shall we begin a new GG Season 7 thread (http://www.constantchatter.com/forum/showthread.php?p=989775#post989775)?

[KaliLily]

Well tonight's the big night and I still have no CW! :( :mad: If anyone knows a place I can go and download the episode after it airs, could you let me know? TIA. :)

I did searched "download Gilmore Girls" on Google and found Tv-All-Free.com/Gilmore_Girls and www.TVShowsDownloads.net. I don't know anything about these sites, but it may be something worth checking out.

[suzubeane]

Well tonight's the big night and I still have no CW! :( :mad: If anyone knows a place I can go and download the episode after it airs, could you let me know? TIA. :)We used to get GG (and other WB shows) after a few days delay because our market had no WB channel. UPN would show them instead of weekend programming. Can you look in your directory and just see if you're getting the shows late on another network?

Off to check the new thread!

[Rose]

Hopefully if you can't get the new episode somebody will put it on youtube of something.

[JamBray]

I did searched "download Gilmore Girls" on Google and found Tv-All-Free.com/Gilmore_Girls and www.TVShowsDownloads.net. I don't know anything about these sites, but it may be something worth checking out.

Yeah KaliLily I saw those sites as well, but haven't looked into them yet.
We used to get GG (and other WB shows) after a few days delay because our market had no WB channel. UPN would show them instead of weekend programming. Can you look in your directory and just see if you're getting the shows late on another network?

Off to check the new thread!
Well according to TIVO they're not being shown on another network (aside from the repeats on ABC Family), but I'll look again. Thanks suzubeane.

[KaliLily]

JamBray: Have you checked out the CW website? (www.cwtv.com) Some networks make their shows available online. CBS used to do that with its soap operas.

[Mellow_Water1]

I am SO sick of seeing the most important scene of the episode, be the LAST scene of the episode....