Gilmore Girls

[mgrace]

I can't stand Logan. Can he please just go away? Rory is acting like a spoiled beeotch. And how self-centered and ridiculous was the whole thing with Rory and Lorelei at the baptism? I mean, yes I know it's TV, but.....

I really hope that this season gets better.

[Rosebud]

Next week's episode looks SO good! It almost bummed me out that I'm going to be on my honeymoon in a place that doesn't get American TV and will have to wait two weeks to see it!!

I do hope, that as the preview implied, the Gilmores realize they owe Lorelei a big fat apology. I'm hoping for a reconciliation not only between Lorelei and Rory, but with Lorelei and her parents as well. Yeah, they're crazy... but they love her in their own, annoying/meddling way. It would be great to see everyone getting along.

For everyone who wants a "Mary is my homegirl" t-shirt, there are tons of them online. Here's one:

http://www.asos.com/images/inv/1/8/40/9514/Pink/image1l.jpg
http://www.asos.com/pgeproduct.aspx?iid=9514 (T-shirt)

Is anyone else bored to death with the "Lane and her band" storyline? I keep wanting to fast-forward through it. MORE PARIS, LESS LANE!!! Although I did like the conversation between Lane and Rory.

Logan.... yes, his behavior was obnoxious this week. But I think what we're seeing is not "Logan being rude to Rory" but "Logan trying to figure out what is going to make him happy." He doesn't want to run his father's company-- we know that. He just feels like he's obligated to do so. His story is really very similar to Rory's right now... he has to figure out what he's MEANT to do, not what anyone is telling him to do. I think Rory and Logan can really help each other through this, and I hope they do. I think they're good for each other. She gives him stability and intellectual stimulation and he provides her with excitement and encourages her to explore the depths of who she is.

Good episode! :)

[houseblend]

I liked this week's episode a lot better, too.

ITA with apoppy about Rory becoming overwhelmed at the party, which is why she demanded someone make coffee. I think it was an important pivotal point in Rory living with her grandparents actually. Being surrounded by their lifestyle is effecting her personality considerably, and I think at some point she will realize what she is becoming and be mad at herself for turning into her grandmother. I think we will see a bit more of this Rory, but I don't think it will last beyond this season. It's not who she is deep down.

I also think while Logan wasn't treating Rory properly, it isn't that he doesn't want to work, but that he doesn't want to work at his dad's company. I think the pressure is waying heavily on him what to do with his life.

I'm nervous about Rory bringing up that Logan is taking flying lessons in "paper-thin" planes. I really hope that is not some sort of foreshadowing!!!

I can't wait to see Rory meeting up again with Logan's dad next week. Should be interesting!

[KaliLily]

I'm looking forward to next week with the grandparents realizing that Lorelei was right about everything she said, and how they're going to handle that.

Wouldn't it be great to see Richard and Emily apologize to Lorelai? :D

[Rosebud]

I'm nervous about Rory bringing up that Logan is taking flying lessons in "paper-thin" planes. I really hope that is not some sort of foreshadowing!!!


I was worried about this, too. I don't know if "Gilmore Girls" would really go so dark as to kill off a major character, but I hope not. Hopefully it was just meant that Logan has, like many people who are unhappy and have lots of disposable income, taken up a dangerous hobby. It's probably a form of escapism... much like his impromptu trip to NYC with Rory.

[mgrace]

Here is the blurb for next week:


Rory (Alexis Bledel) does a fabulous job organizing a big DAR bash for Emily (Kelly Bishop). However, at the party, Richard (Edward Herrmann) confronts Logan's (Matt Czuchry) father, Mitchum Huntzberger (guest star Gregg Henry), about his opinion of Rory's journalistic talents, while Emily has an even uglier confrontation with Logan's mother, Shria (guest star Leann Hunley), over the romance between Rory and Logan. Meanwhile, after a small kitchen fire at the Dragonfly Inn, Lorelai (Lauren Graham) needs Richard's help settling the insurance claim and uses the time spent with her father to needle him about the fact that he has been unable to get Rory to return to Yale. Though he's annoyed with Lorelai, Richard has to admit that Rory is not where she should be.

[JamBray]

Wouldn't it be great to see Richard and Emily apologize to Lorelai? :D
Grovel for her forgiveness would be more like it. :p

[Rosebud]

I read this on the Television Without Pity boards and thought it was interesting:


Why can't they give me a scene with Logan and Rory in a real conversation? Two young people trying to figure out their lives instead just waking up in bed sounding half drunk.


I think this was the only thing that really bothers me about Logan in general. Instead of having Logan and Rory interact meaningfully, all we usually get are these throw-away scenes. I'm so annoyed that by having the DAR party, and then Colin & Finn & Katrinka over we were denied something that may have delved into what the relationship means to both of them, what they are both struggling with. We see it here and there I think, but not really. Honestly, I think (the show) has always had problems writing for Rory's significant others. Look where Dean and Jess ended up.

One of the reasons I'm compelled by the Logan storyline is that he is such a departure from Rory's life with Lorelai and a tacit acceptance of her grandparent's world. I think the the nexus of Rory's struggle with her identity and where she fits in is finding the right balance between the two worlds. I don't think an outright rejection of either is necessary, what makes Rory interesting is that she *should* be able to navigate both comfortably. Right now she is dealing with both _awkwardly_!

[KaliLily]

Here is the blurb for next week:


Rory (Alexis Bledel) does a fabulous job organizing a big DAR bash for Emily (Kelly Bishop). However, at the party, Richard (Edward Herrmann) confronts Logan's (Matt Czuchry) father, Mitchum Huntzberger (guest star Gregg Henry), about his opinion of Rory's journalistic talents, while Emily has an even uglier confrontation with Logan's mother, Shria (guest star Leann Hunley), over the romance between Rory and Logan. Meanwhile, after a small kitchen fire at the Dragonfly Inn, Lorelai (Lauren Graham) needs Richard's help settling the insurance claim and uses the time spent with her father to needle him about the fact that he has been unable to get Rory to return to Yale. Though he's annoyed with Lorelai, Richard has to admit that Rory is not where she should be.

Let the games begin! :D

[Whitters20]

I liked the episode from this week although I think next week will be better and I think the season will really pick up in a few weeks. I am getting a little sick of Rory's new attitude. Her character has really made a departure from the old Rory and I'm not sure I like most of it. I hope when things straighten out with her mom and with her career path we'll more of the old Rory. I'm glad Sookie was back in this episode. The exchanges between her and Jackson are always so funny. And I love Paul Anka, he's so adorable.

Next week should be good.

[ManteoChik]

I *can't* wait for next weeks episdoe!

[jmvan74]

I'm nervous about Rory bringing up that Logan is taking flying lessons in "paper-thin" planes. I really hope that is not some sort of foreshadowing!!!


I was thinking the same thing. I would hope that death would not be involved, but maybe some serious injury to snap rory in to reality. It was really hard to see her acting like Emily. I wanted to yell at her! I have to agree with previous posters that the "Mary is my homegirl" comment was classic! Loved it.

[Regina Phalange]

This was brought up like three pages back but I JUST got around to watching my TIVO GG from this week so I hadn't stepped foot into this thread.

Okay. About Rory calling Logan after the baptism and him being in class. On the blackboard behind Logan it said "Saturday Study Session Here" with a few extra lines about time/subject etc...I can't remember the exact wordings but I did take note of it because I was confused at first as to why he would be in class on a Saturday or Sunday. So there you have it..he was in a weekend study session.

As for the episode as a whole, I really enjoyed it a lot more than the previous episodes of this season. I can't wait for next week's episode and truth to come out about Logan's father.

[KaliLily]

Okay. About Rory calling Logan after the baptism and him being in class. On the blackboard behind Logan it said "Saturday Study Session Here" with a few extra lines about time/subject etc...

Good eyes!!!!

[jeepgirl]

I feel so lost... I saw only the last half of the last two episodes... can someone direct me to a website that gives a commentary of what happned? I've tried to look, but I can't seem to find it!

[bunnybeth]

For some reason, I didn't get this when watching the preview after last week's episode, but they've been playing the commerical a lot on WGN this weekend, so... is there an implication that what Logan's father said to Rory (you aren't cut out to be a journalist) was said to her ONLY as a plot to drive the couple apart? Can't wait until tomorrow! Something like that would make Rory see how she belongs in school and in her mother's life.

[EmilyBronte]

is there an implication that what Logan's father said to Rory (you aren't cut out to be a journalist) was said to her ONLY as a plot to drive the couple apart?

I've been trying to figure this out as well. I've also been trying to figure out how it is Emily and Richard will see Lorelai was right all along. Since we didn't actually get to see Rory's discussion with them about what happened, I'm wondering if she embellished the truth with them to get them on her side.

[mgrace]

From seeing the previews for tomorrow's episode, it looks like Rory ends up admitting that Logan's dad's comments about her being a bad journalist is the only reason she took time off from school. Did she tell anyone about what he said? I can't remember.

[EmilyBronte]

I thought Logan's dad's comments made her doubt everything she wanted in life and that since she didn't feel she'd make it as a journalist she had no idea what she'd want to do so she didn't see the need to go to school again. Strange, but for some reason that's all I remember. Then I remember her going to her grandparent's house after she knew her mom was upset with her and from there we ended up with Rory in the pool house. I can't wait for tomorrow!

[bunnybeth]

From seeing the previews for tomorrow's episode, it looks like Rory ends up admitting that Logan's dad's comments about her being a bad journalist is the only reason she took time off from school. Did she tell anyone about what he said? I can't remember.

She told Logan before they stole the yacht. He replied that his dad shouldn't have said such a thing... but never said he thought his dad was wrong. (Possibly implying he agrees with his dad, but not the way it was said?)

[PookiePrincess]

From seeing the previews for tomorrow's episode, it looks like Rory ends up admitting that Logan's dad's comments about her being a bad journalist is the only reason she took time off from school. Did she tell anyone about what he said? I can't remember.

Rory told Logan and her mom about the comments he said. That's when Lorelai told her that she shouldn't let one person's opinion change her life plans. Lorelai then told the grandparents the jist of it (I don't think the exact details), if I recall correctly, and they were completely on her side until Rory came crying to her grandfather. Then they completely sided with Rory about leaving school.

I do think the new twist from the commercial is making it sound more interesting. I can't believe I didn't think of that before. It was obvious that Logan's mom and grandfather were totally against their relationship. Maybe his dad didn't agree either, but he didn't come out directly/immediately against it like the rest of Logan's family.

[Mellow_Water1]

Oh my gosh, the preview for next week is way to vague! It's just an invitation for me to find spoilers. Must. Not. Give. In.

Can't wait to see what happens now that Richard and Emily know what the Huntzbergers did.

[EmilyBronte]

I thought tonight's episode was great (although I could have done without so much of the recital). I was so excited to hear the things Emily was saying to Shira Huntsburger - I loved it! I can't wait to see how all of this plays out.

[PookiePrincess]

I was so excited to hear the things Emily was saying to Shira Huntsburger - I loved it! I can't wait to see how all of this plays out.

And with a smile on her face the entire time...classic Emily Gilmore.:D

[EmilyBronte]

Did anyone think that Rory handled the entire event tonight just like Lorelai would have?

[Mellow_Water1]

Wow, I never thought of that! You're right, Lorelai would've handled the night exactly like Rory did. Sort of freaky, but cute at the same time!

[annielynn]

Great episode. Emily was fantastic! A true woman.

[Linnybubbles]

I have read the spoilers, and they do not give anything away. I wish that they did, I am DYING. I think Emily's speech at the end completely redeemed her for all the bad things she has done. And could I laugh harder at the DAR ladies?

[PookiePrincess]

It also cracked me up the way Paris was broke for like 24 hours and already on the side of the working man. She sure forgot quickly how it was to be rich!

[maxandmolly]

They're gonna have some BIG apologies to make to Lorelai next week.
I missed the previews, damn phone ringing, don't people know better?

[Wrighty26]

Tonight's episode was awesome. Emily's little speech made up for every annoying thing that has happened in the last couple of episodes. CLASSIC EMILY. I love Kelly Bishop's facial expression in that entire scene!

I felt sad for Richard though--realizing what he had done...

There were so many things that cracked me up about this lesson - Sookie/Jackson yelling at Davey (I'm sorry- but the kid is like 2-- I thought it was funny), Paris- especially when she asked Rory for money, and Kirk-- I could have done without most of the recital-- but I love it when Kirk does weird things (it's so Kirk!).

[houseblend]

Tonight's episode was great.

And with a smile on her face the entire time...classic Emily Gilmore.

Truly a beautiful moment! I loved how Shira kept her smile all along, too. Anything to avoid causing a scene!

[Regina Phalange]

Wow. Thats was a great episode. GG might have just redemed itself for the slow season its been having so far. Emily handled that situation with much more class than I ever could have. Loved it! And I almost started crying at the end when Richard came back in and was watching Rory on stage.

My Tivo didn't record the previews for next week. What did they show?

[JillyBean]

Way to go, Emily! I was so glad that she finally told Shira off.

Can someone recap the preview for next week for me? My VCR cut off right at the beginning of it.

[angelraven]

CRAP! I missed it! And for some reason my Tivo did not record it! I'm off to find a recap. Poo.

[mom_to_zoe]

Count me as another one whose TiVo cut off the scenes from next week's episode.

I also thought last night's episode was great. Paris was completely hilarious. What do you all think Richard was thinking when he was watching Rory on stage at the end?

[kugrrly]

great episode getting back to class ic GG. Loved Emily last night.

[jmvan74]

Two words...

Go EMILY!!!

I didn't see the previews either. Sorry.

[lauren f s]

I loved Emily, but Paris was my favorite last night. I kept cracking up at all the little comments she was making.

The previews for next week showed Rory & Logan in the pool house and it said something about them, but I can't remember what. It did show the grandparents coming in and Emily walking back to what I assume is the bedroom & seeing something - I'm guessing Rory & Logan in bed. Then Richard is at Lorelei's door telling her they need to talk about Rory.

I think that's all, but can't remember very well. My daughter was fussing to go to bed and I kept trying to quiet her while watching the previews.

[Sazoo]

The previews for next week showed Rory & Logan in the pool house and it said something about them, but I can't remember what.
They showed Rory telling Logan that she thinks she loves him, & he said something like "wow, really?"

[jesseybell]

DH was reading way too much into Richard's look at the end of the show and the previews. He's all convinced that maybe Rory and Logan are related and that's why they freak out to find out that Rory and Logan are sleeping together.

Sookie/Jackson yelling at Davey was kind of funny, because Davey is way too young to understand them.

The Kirk thing was really skeevy!

The season is definitely starting to redeem itself.

[bunnybeth]

LOVED Emily and Richard at the party. Richard really did look like he'd punch Mitchum, and Emily was just wonderful.

Paris was pretty funny, I loved how she was so excited about the time card. She really goes all out in whatever she does.

In the preview, I know someone (Lorelei?) said something about Logan and Rory being too young to think about marriage or something like that.

[scarlett]

The preview for next week's episode should be available on the WB website tomorrow (I think they usually post them on Thursdays). www.thewb.com.

[mgrace]

I did like Emily's speech at the end and I thought Paris was funny, but I'm still not feeling this season.

Here is the preview for next week:
Richard (Edward Herrmann) tries to get information from Logan (Matt Czuchry) about Rory's (Alexis Bledel) future plans, but Logan mistakenly thinksthat Richard is asking when the two of them plan to marry. Lorelai (Lauren Graham) is in favor of Taylor's (Michael Winters) plan to change all the Stars Hollow street names back to their original historic names, until she learns that the street where the Dragonfly Inn is located was once known by a disgusting name. Rory makes a surprising confession to Logan. Richard finally faces the fact that he should never have let Rory drop out of Yale, and shows up at Lorelai's house to talk things over.

[fastlayne224]

Is it just me being cynical or did Lorelei seem very indifferent with Luke. Do you think she is trying to push him away and doom their romance? I have rooted for these two since the beginning and was so happy when they finally got together, but I feel that Lorelei is unconsiously try to sabotage their relationship. I realize she is really really upset about the split with her and Rory, but still, I feel she is trying to pull away from Luke. Just my thoughts.... Otherwise, I just LOVE LOVE LOVE this show!

[houseblend]

Next week looks so good! I can't wait! I have a feeling between Rory telling Logan she loves him and her grandfather having a talk with him, Logan might get some big relationship jitters. This being his first serious relationship, I'm not sure he's ready for that.

fastlayne - I didn't read into that about Lorelei, but you have a good point. I read it more as showing how much time they've been spending together and how committed Luke really is. I wouldn't be surprised if they put a rif in the relationship, though, to keep us interested.

[stevesbabygirl]

I was almost going to cry when I saw Richard's reaction to Rory up on stage too, it was so sad. I think he really regrets condoning Rory's leave of absence from Yale, and that Mitchum had devastated her.

[PookiePrincess]

What do you all think Richard was thinking when he was watching Rory on stage at the end?

I think Richard was thinking that he let Rory leave Yale and now she's fitting in too well in his "rich" world. She would make the perfect "socialite wife" for Logan, I think he's really regretting his decision.

I also didn't see the Lorelai/Luke thing as her trying to sabotage the relationship. I saw it as her maybe wanting some time to spend alone/away from him and it sounded like she was pushing him away. I thought it was funny that he didn't enjoy the camping, but when he came back and they fixed everything that was bothering him, he went back out camping. They're so kooky.

[ginastorm]

This is a little off topic but it took me forever to place where I had seen Logan's mom before. She was Ms. Jacobs on Dawson's Creek, the English teacher that slept with Pacey. I guess the actress playing her likes WB shows!

[monique]

logans mom also was on Days of Our Lives a long time ago.

I thought last season ended with Lorali getting preggo? maybe that is why she freaked out when she saw Sookie going coocoo at her DS for having the TV up loud?

[PookiePrincess]

No, there was an episode where she thought she might be pregnant, but she wasn't. I think she was so weird about the Sookie/Jackson/Davy tv thing because he didn't understand a word they were saying! And they kept yelling like he was going to do what they said. I think it was Lorelai's reaction to how crazy they are with their expectations (and feeling bad that Luke had to sit and suffer through it all).

[Regina Phalange]

So tonight's episode was pretty good but I'm dissapointed they left the two big clinchers until the last two mintues so we are still left in the dark about 'I love you' (though we got a little of that) and 'We need to talk about Rory'.

[kugrrly]

gilmore girls is good with that

[Wrighty26]

The whole "street name" thing annoyed me to NO end (because honestly--who looks a what road an inn is on?)....but I love that Richard brought over the dollhouse. I let out an audible "AWWWW" when I saw it...

I'm also SO over Logan. He needs to go :)

[ManteoChik]

I love this show, but I *hate* when they just cut things off. I think that Richard is going to try and get Lorali to help him get Rory back at yale. Now that they know what Mitchum said was true and Rory confessed that was the reason she left they might have a better time getting her to go back. I am secretly thinking they might get Logan to help in the quest to get Rory back in school.

[Foos6LA]

I'm a huge GG fan - have been ever since Episode 1 - and I'm a first time poster to this thread.

GG has been annoying me this season. Amy S-P's MO seems to be to fill 45 minutes with stupid schtick (mostly involving Kirk or Taylor or both) and then write really great dialogue for 5 minutes and leave us wanting more. I'm starting to feel really manipulated. I actually found myself going "yeah, yeah, yeah ... let's get some content" while watching the episode tonight. It seems different than in seasons past but perhaps I'm not remembering acurately. Maybe it has something to do with Lorelai and Rory not talking. I want them to start talking again... the show just isn't the same.

Next week's looks good. I LOVE when shows bring you into their universe and do things like birthdays and referencing past events (Felicity was great at that, OC does it well now, too). The 2 Birthdays episode was one of my faves and the 21st birthday looks good. HOWEVER, that being said, when have Lorelai and Rory ever talked about her 21st birthday?

[kugrrly]

when have Lorelai and Rory ever talked about her 21st birthday?


I have seen EVERY episode, and I never have heard of this doscussion.

[Aimee]

DH actually mentioned this tonight...Jackson won the election for Town Selectman last season. So why is Taylor still running the meetings? I know Jackson wanted to resign, but I never saw that he actually did.

I never heard them mention the 21st Birthday either. Maybe it's some sort of coming-out party? Nevermind that Rory was already a deb a few seasons back...

This season has been rambly and kind of confusing at best. I have a feeling there'll be a major cliffhanger and then a winter hiatus. I 'm just wondering where things are going; the eshow has lost some of it's comfortable predictability.

[Foos6LA]

I was wondering about Jackson, too! I HATE when they having sloppy writing or editing and leave us hanging. I'm sure the show is well thought out, it's just the execution is somewhat spotty.

Yeah, we should be on winter hiatus in like, what, another week? *sarcasm* I swear, there were like 10 new eps of GG last season - they were always on break

[JillyBean]

DH actually mentioned this tonight...Jackson won the election for Town Selectman last season. So why is Taylor still running the meetings? I know Jackson wanted to resign, but I never saw that he actually did.
I was wondering the exact same thing :confused:

I have seen EVERY episode, and I never have heard of this doscussion.
Me neither. I know that birthdays are a big thing in the Gilmore family, but I've never heard mention of her 21st being such a big deal.

GG has been annoying me this season. Amy S-P's MO seems to be to fill 45 minutes with stupid schtick (mostly involving Kirk or Taylor or both) and then write really great dialogue for 5 minutes and leave us wanting more. I'm starting to feel really manipulated. I actually found myself going "yeah, yeah, yeah ... let's get some content" while watching the episode tonight. It seems different than in seasons past but perhaps I'm not remembering acurately.
I'm starting to feel the same way. It is a different show. I'm rewatching the first season right now, and it just seems so odd when I compare it to the current season. This season has been pretty annoying. ASP seems to be dragging out this story. It's one thing to have the two main characters not talking, but I feel like alot of these side stories (street names, DAR functions) are filler.

I'm also SO over Logan. He needs to go
Agreed.

[lawyerlee]

I'm so relieved that Richard finally came to Lorelai to talk about Rory. I knew deep down he'd be the one to do it. Emily is such a hard headed biddy. :rolleyes: :( I can't wait to see what he actually says next week!

[mgrace]

I missed last night's episode, but I doubt I missed much.

GG has been annoying me this season. Amy S-P's MO seems to be to fill 45 minutes with stupid schtick (mostly involving Kirk or Taylor or both) and then write really great dialogue for 5 minutes and leave us wanting more
I like Kirk and Taylor, but I like them as filler; not as the main characters, you know?

Preview for next week:
As Rory's (Alexis Bledel) twenty-first birthday approaches, both Lorelai (Lauren Graham) and Rory are saddened by the fact that their ongoing estrangement will keep them from spending the day the way they had always planned. Richard (Edward Herrmann) tries to convince Lorelai to help him with a plan to get Rory back to Yale, but Lorelai insists that Rory has to make the decision herself. While Richard continues to worry about Rory's future, Emily (Kelly Bishop) throws herself into planning an elaborate birthday party. Meanwhile, Emily and Richard are shocked when they realize that Rory and Logan (Matt Czuchry) have been having sex.

[mom_to_zoe]

Okay, I just have to get this off my chest:

Who has never heard of a Birkin bag? Has Rory been living under some sort of fashion rock? It was on Sex and the City, for Pete's sake! Here's the part that really annoys me, Lorelei is walking around with a (gorgeous) Marc Jacobs bag that must have cost at least $900, but we are supposed to believe that her daughter has never heard of a Birkin bag? Puh-leese!

Also, the "I love you" thing was just painful. Logan so has the upper-hand in that relationship. (Although if a man ever gave me a Hermes bag, I would say I love him too.)

Emily was being just horrible about the doll house. I'm so glad that Richard brought it to her.

[PookiePrincess]

I agree with what's been said so far. This season has been kind of slow, but I think there's reason. The rift between Rory and Lorelai had to happen. I think it's the way for Rory to realize that the rich life is not for her. She's always thought her mom exaggerated about her life in the Gilmore house. She didn't fully understand why her mom hates the rich life. I think she's seen glimpses, but hasn't fully understood it all. Rory living with the grandparents and going through the whole process Lorelai did (the snooping, governing what you wear, where you work, who you socialize with) will make her realize that she's always sort of enjoyed the rich life, but it's not really for her. I think Richard is realizing that, too. Rory doesn't belong with them, with a Birkin bag. She's not a designer purse kinda girl!

I've never seen anything about the 21st b-day either.

As far as Jackson/Taylor being selectmen, Jackson ran only because he didn't like the way Taylor was doing things. Jackson just wanted to beat Taylor. Once he found out what the job entailed, I bet he resigned. Remember how he freaked out that he had to lead the town meetings? But they could have at least shown it for continuities' sake.

[Vishenka69]

Who has never heard of a Birkin bag? Has Rory been living under some sort of fashion rock? It was on Sex and the City, for Pete's sake! Here's the part that really annoys me, Lorelei is walking around with a (gorgeous) Marc Jacobs bag that must have cost at least $900, but we are supposed to believe that her daughter has never heard of a Birkin bag? Puh-leese!

That's exactly what I was thinking. :D But I was also a bit annoyed when Emily kept going on and on how much she always wanted one. It's not like she can't afford it, just go and get one.

[fierypyropixy]

That's exactly what I was thinking. :D But I was also a bit annoyed when Emily kept going on and on how much she always wanted one. It's not like she can't afford it, just go and get one.

Well yes, but there are wait lists for those Birkins . . .

(didn't see the show last night, had to dvr it, but I'm watching as soon as I go back downstairs!)

I too am annoyed by the Marc Jacobs bag. She's been carrying that one for a while now, but still . . . all that enforcement about how expenses are high, they have to buckle down and save money blah blah blah, what with Rory pointing out that lights were dimmer and the cable channels were missing. Perhaps she had to scrimp to buy it :-)

[JamBray]

DH actually mentioned this tonight...Jackson won the election for Town Selectman last season. So why is Taylor still running the meetings? I know Jackson wanted to resign, but I never saw that he actually did.
I was thinking the same thing.
Who has never heard of a Birkin bag?
Thank you! It makes absolutely no sense to show that Rory wouldn’t know about these, especially growing up with a mom like Lorelei. Add to that her grandmother’s love for rich things, and her attending Chilton and Yale. Totally unbelievable and a stupid sub-storyline.

The whole street name thing bugged me, and I was really disappointed that it was the main story of the show. I also felt gypped that we barely got shown anything more of Richard showing up at Lorelei’s house than we did in last week’s promo…total let down. I hope they don’t do this to us next week with Lorelei showing up at Rory’s party (I've also never heard them talk about Rory's 21st).

[jesseybell]

And the whole deal with the intercom...get a new one!!!

Re: The 21st birthday - Normal people wouldn't be talking about it with their mothers. Who has a 21st birthday party that involves anything else but going out at the stroke of midnight with your other 21 year-old friends and getting drunk? Except for being able to drink legally, there isn't any big deal to turning 21 [this being said by someone who turned 21 quite a long, long time ago...]

And yes, Emily sure would be able to afford a Birkin...but I think she was more jealous that Logan bought it for her and she didn't need to ask...and Emily had hinted to Richard to buy her one- she wanted to get it as a gift, not buy it herself.

Who goes and just changes the names of roads? I don't think the USPS would exactly be allowing that.

Doesn't Logan sound exactly like Christian Slater?

But I still love the show....except that there is too much Kirk.

[cocoa_femme]

Yesterday was our anniversary, so I missed GG. I've pretty much figured out what happened from all your posts. But, can someone please tell me what name they wanted to change the street that the Dragonfly Inn is on to (I think this makes sense)?

Thanks!

[kugrrly]

Re: The 21st birthday - Normal people wouldn't be talking about it with their mothers.

I think with the realtionship that they have that it would be a big deal. The do not have a "normal" mother daughter realtionship.

[jesseybell]

They want to change the name from Third Street to 'Sores and Boils Alley' (or road or something)

[jmvan74]

Well, let me be the first to say....I had no clue what a Birken Bag is and would have never known that the purses Loralei carries is designer. :o
However, considering the schools Rory attended/s she would probably be more aware than me.

I agree that the season is moving slowly. I just want to yell..."Get to the pointn already!"

I would not want to stay at an Inn that was on a street called Sores and boyles. Yuck.

I loved that Richard brought the dollhouse to Loralei. So cute.

I hope next week's episode brings things together.

[lauren f s]

I thought the episode was just okay. I thought it was very sweet of Richard to bring Lorelai the dollhouse and I enjoyed Emily's ranting about sugar. The episode ended and I felt let down; last week's previews made it seem like it was going to be such a good episdoe, but it was so misleading. I keep hoping that once Lorelai and Rory make up things will get back to normal.

[bunnybeth]

There were some good moments, but overall not the best episode. I was kinda expecting Richard's talk to be a cliffhanger. But, that thing I thought was odd, was that they didn't show Lorelei's confrontation of Taylor and the protestation at the town meeting. It felt skipped over, IMO.

I hope what the preview showed was accurate- Lorelei shows up at Rory's party and they play nice (unlike the baptism).

The dollhouse thing was cute. But, I don't think Emily was really going to give it to Goodwill. She just wanted to force Lorelei to see her; she was jealous of Richard's earlier face-to-face meeting with their daughter.

[mgrace]

Okay, I just have to get this off my chest:

Who has never heard of a Birkin bag? Has Rory been living under some sort of fashion rock?
Who hasn't heard of a Birkin? Me. I guess I've been living under a fashion rock.

[JillyBean]

I've never heard of a Birkin, either :o :rolleyes:

[jeneca128]

Me either... I thought they made it up. :o

I love the GG's and have been so disappointed with this season so far. I really don't enjoy watching nothing for almost an hour, only to get one sentence of actual storyline. It feels like they're running out of ideas so they just want to stretch out this plot line as looooong as possible.

If they end next weeks episode with Lorelai showing up at the party I'm going to be very annoyed. This better occur early enough in the episode for something, anything to actually happen.

[mlfallis]

I love the GG's and have been so disappointed with this season so far. I really don't enjoy watching nothing for almost an hour, only to get one sentence of actual storyline. It feels like they're running out of ideas so they just want to stretch out this plot line as looooong as possible.


ITA

[cocoa_femme]

They want to change the name from Third Street to 'Sores and Boils Alley' (or road or something)
Eww! That is so gross! Thanks.

[mom_to_zoe]

Well, I certainly apologize if my comment about Birkin bags came off as obnoxious. I really didn't mean it to be. It's just that there have been mentions of Birkin bags on other shows, most memorably SATC, and they are knocked off everywhere, so I thought it was a pretty well-known thing. And I do think it is totally unrealistic that Rory wouldn't have heard of it since Lorelei is clearly into clothes and designer clothes at that.

[lauren f s]

I don't think this has been posted. I just read it at http://www.tvguide.com/News/AskAusiello/.
Question: Any scoop on Gilmore Girls? Sorry, any poop on Gilmore Girls? — Eliza

Ausiello: Brace yourself: Christopher's coming back. No lie. Although Amy Sherman-Palladino initially said there were no plans to bring him back this season, sources confirm that the perpetual spoiler in the Lorelai-Luke romance resurfaces in the Nov. 22 episode after Lorelai gets a surprise call from him. Coincidentally, that's the same episode we meet a mysterious 10-year-old girl who, I'm told, will turn a certain Stars Hollow resident's life upside down. Rumor has it — MAJOR SPOILER ALERT — someone whose name rhymes with Duke may have a long-lost daughter. (That noise you hear is thousands of Gilmore fans organizing a protest outside ASP's house.)

[cocoa_femme]

I don't think this has been posted. I just read it at http://www.tvguide.com/News/AskAusiello/.
Nooooooo! :mad:

[Txfish]

OK, I'm happy to see some other fashion protestors -- I was trying to get to the last page and post. Sorry you all want Logan to go, but he deserves at LEAST 3 more episodes if he's going around giving our girl a BIRKIN! LOL Thought it was so funny that Emily was all atwitter over it. ITA that no way would Rory not have known what a Birkin was -- or at very least, recognized that Hermes is a big deal. He walked in with that big orange bag and I said WOW! And then I'm thinking, why is she being so blase about HERMES???

Very touching when Richard brought the dollhouse. I love how he doesn't say much, but you always see where his thoughts are taking him with his facial expressions.

As for the Christopher/Luke has a daughter future story lines... well, you didn't think they'd just let Luke & Lorelei live happily ever after, did you? I think this maybe solves the will they have kids thing... I never saw Lorelei going for that.

[PookiePrincess]

I think Lorelai and Luke will at some point have their own child. They've hinted at it for years. One I can remember is the Dance Marathon where they both said they'd like to have kids if they met the right person. (And the first episode of season 3 when she dreams she's pregnant with Luke's twins). I think there are too many hints for them to not at least end the show with Lorelai pregnant.

And I'm another who wouldn't recognize Hermes, a Birkin, or anything Marc Jacobs.

[EmilyBronte]

My sentiments from last night's show were very similar to ones already posted. Like 15 minutes in I kept telling DH I wish they'd get on with the show. I'm SICK of seeing them in their town meeting doing something dumb. Seriously, they've taken this, "quaint and quirky town" storyline WAY too far!

I do like how they had Emily begin reaching out to Lorelai - sending her stuff to get a call from her. When that didn't work, I think Emily really thought the dollhouse trick would get Lorelai to cave. I thought it was touching of Richard to bring Lorelai the dollhouse.

And, as my dear TxFish stated, you didn't think they'd just let Luke & Lorelei live happily ever after, did you?

ITA! I keep waiting to see what will happen to test Luke and Lorelai.

As soon as I saw the orange Hermes bag I told DH that I bet Logan got her a Birkin bag. My DH's response, "that's a serious gift!" Yes, girls, eat your hearts out, my DH knows his Hermes. I had no idea he knew such things! :) I do find it hard to believe Rory would have no clue, but I also think it would be Rory's style to be sort of naive about it. She is one of those super intelligent types who doesn't always have much common sense.

[KaliLily]

Still in the minority here. I really enjoyed last night's episode - including the street renaming story. Maybe because I live in a very small town, myself. Given how our "powers that be" are clinging to the past and have no interest in progress, I can believe the street renaming. I'm sure we have a "Taylor" somewhere. I must find him! :p

And, surprisingly, Logan is growing on me. I couldn't STAND him until very recently. Every time they'd show him in the opening credits, I'd scowl. I'm just waiting for him to grow-up (no more "pranks"), find his spine and stand up to Mitchum. He seems like Lorelai in the sense that he's fighting his "birth right," however, he's too attached to his lifestyle to walk away from it like Lorelai did.

I also liked the scene where Rory told Logan she loved him. The tie-in to season 1's episode where Dean professed his love for her and she could not reciprocate showed a sense of history. I think Logan really loves Rory, but he can't say it to her because that's a line he used to get girls into bed. Instead, he lets his actions speak for him. (I can't believe I'm actually defending Logan! :eek: )

I do agree, however, that the "teasers" for the next week need to stop being the final scenes! Last week, when they showed Richard going to Lorelai saying they needed to talk about Rory, I thought they'd actually talk about Rory in this week's episode. I did, however, absolutely love that Richard brought Lorelai her doll house. I admit my eyes teared up. I'm such a sap. :rolleyes:

[houseblend]

I think Logan really loves Rory, but he can't say it to her because that's a line he used to get girls into bed. Instead, he lets his actions speak for him. (I can't believe I'm actually defending Logan! )

ITA! I think that ironically he is saying he does love her by not telling her. I respect him for not just blurting it out because she said it.


I do find it hard to believe Rory would have no clue, but I also think it would be Rory's style to be sort of naive about it. She is one of those super intelligent types who doesn't always have much common sense.

I really don't mean to turn this thread off-topic, but is not knowing a Birkin or Hermes bag really a lack of common sense? :confused: Mind you I confess to having zero fashion sense, but I don't think that means I lack common sense.

[Mellow_Water1]

I think Logan really loves Rory, but he can't say it to her because that's a line he used to get girls into bed. Instead, he lets his actions speak for him.


I agree. When he said he didn't want to say it, because he's said it too many times without meaning anything, I actually thought that was one of the most romantic things I've ever heard him say. Cliched and sappy, but so romantic and refreshing.

ETA: I've never heard of Birkin or Hermes bags, either. I'm sure I'm clueless about a lot of the hottest fashion items, though. I actually saw myself in Rory when she looked clueless about it.

[stevesbabygirl]

Another clueless soul here who didn't know what a Birkin bag was. Never seen an episode of SATC, so that may be where part of my clueslessness comes from. I thought it was so sweet that Richard brought over the dollhouse.

[stevesbabygirl]

Those purses are like $10,000 :eek:! Why would someone spend that much money? And how can someone justify charging that much?! I could use that as a down payment on a car!

[EmilyBronte]

I really don't mean to turn this thread off-topic, but is not knowing a Birkin or Hermes bag really a lack of common sense? :confused: Mind you I confess to having zero fashion sense, but I don't think that means I lack common sense.

I didn't mean to imply that her not knowing what the bag is means that she doesn't have common sense. That was meant to be a separate comment, as an aside. She has always been a bit naive about things, and does seem to lack a bit of common sense. (I mean this in a completely separate comment from the fashion discussion.)

I think her mom could talk fashion in front of her and she wouldn't necessarily remember it later because it isn't important to her like it is to her mother. So I can understand how she missed knowing what a Birkin bag is.

Sorry if my comment was confusing; it wasn't meant to be.

[HisSpicy]

Those purses are like $10,000 :eek:! Why would someone spend that much money? And how can someone justify charging that much?! I could use that as a down payment on a car!

I was looking at them as well- some were $30,000 :eek:
Of course now I want one more than anything in the world, but it will never ever ever ever EVER happen on a teacher's salary. Oh well, such is life.

[kcjaime]

I liked the episode and thought it was good, even though I also didn't know what a Birken bag was. :o

I agree with the idea that by Logan not saying "I love you" back to Rory, he shows how truly invested in the relationship he is b/c its different from the previous times when he used it as a line for a meaningless relationship.

So glad Richard is coming around regarding Rory's situation and acknowledging to Lorelai that maybe things should be different. Emily is on quite a little warpath, but I think she's just on the defensive and gets extra haughty when she feels left out of the loop, ie when she found out Richard had talked to Lorelai at the Inn.

I do wish Rory & Lorelai would just make up already. I miss their fast-paced, witty banter and the cool relationship they have. I feel frustrated that so much of the season is being wasted on this rift between them. I wish they could just resolve it quicker so that we can get back to the best part of what makes this show great!

Feeling a bit indifferent towards Logan lately and I used to really like him. He's not really impressing me so much these days. We'll see....

[PookiePrincess]

For those of you that read spoilers....

[ Rory and Lorelai will begin their reconciliation in 3 episodes (Nov. 15th-titled The Prodigal Daughter Returns!). Also, there will be trouble in paradise for Rory and Logan when Jess shows up in 2 episodes (Nov. 8) For more, go to http://www.spoilerfix.com/gg.php
I'm glad Jess will shake up the Logan relationship. Not that I think he and Rory belong together, but Logan is really bothering me lately. And Yay for the reconciliation between mom and daughter...we'll be back to the normal old GG!!!! ]

Sorry...it wouldn't let me post the link in white.

[houseblend]

Emily - Sorry if I read the comment the wrong way. You're right - Rory can be a bit naive at times.

I was looking at them as well- some were $30,000

Wowsers!!! Logan must be really in love. I wonder if Rory fully appreciates how much he just spent on her! And I wonder if Logan's parents know how much they just spent on a girl they don't care too much for.

[EmilyBronte]

HB - it's ok. I wasn't exactly clear in my post. It's so hard to correctly get a thought across on a message board sometimes.

[LeslieR]

Finally-a good episode! Sheesh.

[apoppy]

My favorite line of this episode: "It tastes like My Little Pony." Ha!

[twinnyme]

ITA!! I thought it was a GREAT episode! I missed the last two episodes for various reasons, so I've only been lurking in here, didn't have much to contribute. I don't think there's one thing about tonight's episode that didn't ring true for me about how Rory and Lorelai really are together and how they really are as individuals. Very interesting episode. I'm looking forward to next week.

[ManteoChik]

I liked the episode too, especially when she told the pastor that "her ship had already sailed"....lol.

[houseblend]

I liked the episode too, especially when she told the pastor that "her ship had already sailed"....lol.

ITA! I can't believe she told the poor pastor. What an awkward conversation!

I also thought this week's episode was really good. I was glad to see Lorelei and Rory talking, even if it was strained. It was a good first step at least.

It looks like there will be more troubles in store for Richard and Emily. I can totally see why Richard feels the way he does, but those were definitely harsh words since he was basically saying he disapproves of the way his wife has lived her life. So many interesting family dynamics going on!

[jeepgirl]

I really liked Richard tonight... his character was given much more "depth" than just "filling a role." It really showed that he cares about his granddaughter's future. I can totally see one of my grandparents being concerned like this over me or one of my cousins. It was touching.

ETA: And its true... our grandparents generation would not "allow" certain "activities" under their roofs. It shows how much of a shift there has been in this country in just two generations!

[jesseybell]

I don't know if Richard necessarily disapproves of the way Emily has lived her life, I just think that he wants Rory to live her life differently, more like people of her generation and not Emily's.

I was so hoping that Loreali and Rory would make up and rush off to Atlantic City for her birthday.

While the whole scene with the priest was funny "You should go see the '40 Year Old Virgin'. You'd like it" had me rolling, Richard and Emily's handling of Rory and Logan having sex was ridiculous. She's 21 years old. Come on! What were they thinking?

[Whitters20]

I really liked tonight episode. At least Rory and Lorelai are starting to put their relationship back together. My guess is that within a few more episodes things will be vastly improved for them. And poor Luke, I wish they had a scence where he got electricuted and Lorelai got to pull sausage out of him. :) I'm also glad to see Lane and Rory spending some time together. She really seemed unhappy (aprreciative but uncomfortable) at "her" party. Basically, it was Emily's party. I guess it's the start of a turn around. I hope anyway. And how could I end other than saying that I'm excited to see Jess coming back to town. The new episode will air Nov. 8th.

[mom_to_zoe]

Yeah, great episode. Luke was hilarious! The My Little Pony line had me rolling, especially because my two-year-old was running around in sparklly My LIttle Pony underwear earlier today! I thought the Richard and Emily exchange at the end was very intense.

I admired Rory's decision to be honest with the minister. A lot of people would have just nodded and gone along with it.

[PookiePrincess]

I definitely think we're getting back to the old GG.

I missed the first half of the episode, and let me tell you, when Luke and Lorelai got in the truck at the end and he said she could pull sausages out of him...I thought what crazy idea had she had that I missed. What a weird thing to say, at least out of context! It made perfect sense when I went back and watched the first half.

I love that Emily wasn't thrilled about the votives and Lorelai loved them. They have such different taste. I thought that was funny.

Paris and Doyle's line started to annoy me, but it shows what giant dorks they are.

And the gift that Luke gave Rory...too sweet!

I also agree that Richard wasn't trying to say that Emily's life has been pointless and frivolous. I think he's realized that Rory was meant to have more and he really messed it up. She's so intelligent and puts her whole self and heart into everything she does, that it's a waste for her to spend her talent planning parties for the DAR, being a socialite, and being the wife of a rich man. She was always meant for more.

I LOVED the look on Emily's face when she noticed Lorelai's ring. I love to hate her most of the time.

[Wrighty26]

This is definitely the GG we know and love!

I was tearing up in the beginning- when Rory had the dream. It was definitely weird with Madeleine Albright and all, but it was the same exact scene from her 16th birthday-- and it made me think about how fast time flies! Of course, it was also sad b/c Lorelei and Rory aren't together :(

I LOVED that Rory introduced Luke as Rory's stepfather-to-be...and Luke's reaction-- so cute. It was like he just realized Rory would officially be considered his daughter.

There was so much I loved about last night's episode-- I could go on and on...

I'm so excited about Jess returning next week-- the one thing he DOES well is shake Rory's life up. Maybe that's why I find Logan so BLAH??

[jeepgirl]

I LOVED that Rory introduced Luke as Rory's stepfather-to-be...and Luke's reaction-- so cute. It was like he just realized Rory would officially be considered his daughter.


That gift was SO sweet! And his reaction... totally loved it!!! I also loved how sweet Luke was with Lorelei in this episode. You could tell how much he loves her. Good GG fix. *sigh*

[ManteoChik]

ITA! I can't believe she told the poor pastor. What an awkward conversation!

I have used that line before...lol. My first year in college I went to a really religious southern baptist college. They had all these crazy rules and like once a weeks someone from the Baptist Student Union would come around and knock on your dorm room door to try and 'convert' you. (I was not baptist and not even super relgious). After a month I was so sick of these people that I finally told them to just stop coming because I hated this school. When they asked me why I told them that I didn't like the rules and the people in it. They wanted to know what I didn't like about the rules (they were just looking for a reason to stay).....and I finally screamed:

"I HAVE SEX AND I LIKE IT, NOW GET OUT OF MY ROOM AND DON'T COME BACK!"

needless to say I never saw them again...lol

[jmvan74]

Hooray for a fantastic episode!! I was rolling when Rory called Luke's and yelled at Lorelai..."Did she think the invitation fairy sent it." hehe

I don't know if Richard necessarily disapproves of the way Emily has lived her life, I just think that he wants Rory to live her life differently, more like people of her generation and not Emily's.

I completely agree.

There were so many lines I loved...of course, the my little pony reference and the ship sailing...so good.

I'm not a fan of Jess. I have really come to like Logan. I think Rory can do so much better than Jess. He's trouble.

[jeepgirl]

I have really come to like Logan.

Yes, he's very "even-keeled" and positive. Always happy. That's a very good thing. For TV purposes, Jess returning will be interesting. Maybe he will be the only one that can "rattle" her enough to go back to Yale. I'm thinking that might be why he's brought back on the show. Even if he is trouble, he a "straight shooter" and won't beat around the bush. Rory may be annoyed at him, but she'll listen to what he has to say, because there's nothing "fake" about him, and she knows it.

[mlfallis]

I missed the previews for next week, anyone want to share what they lead you to believe is coming up???

[JamBray]

This was a great episode with so many lines that had me laughing out loud. :D I loved how Rory called Luke's and how happy that made Lorelei to know that it was Rory that sent the invite and not her dad. I'm glad that they talked a little bit at the party, even it was awkward, and I hope their relationship gets back on track soon. Luke's My Little Pony remark was great, and I also loved his reaction to Rory introducing him as her step-father-to-be (and how sweet of her to say that).
I was so hoping that Loreali and Rory would make up and rush off to Atlantic City for her birthday.
So was I!

I really wish though that at some point Richard had told Lorelei that she was right all along about the Huntsburgers, and that that was the reason for his change of heart. Oh well, I guess the Gilmore pride got in the way.
Jess returning will be interesting. Maybe he will be the only one that can "rattle" her enough to go back to Yale. I'm thinking that might be why he's brought back on the show. Even if he is trouble, he a "straight shooter" and won't beat around the bush. Rory may be annoyed at him, but she'll listen to what he has to say, because there's nothing "fake" about him, and she knows it.
I was thinking the same thing. He'll be the one to bring Rory back to reality and hopefully help her see the "real" her again.

[PookiePrincess]

The previews just talked about how Rory's life has become now and then it says that Jess will be back to shake things up. It shows him asking her what she's doing. Basically that she doesn't belong with her grandparents and shouldn't be out of school.

[mlfallis]

Thanks for the preview summary Kristi.

[Aimee]

I thought this week's episode was much better than last week's. Although, it seems to be the trend this season to end on a kind of cryptic note.

I'm not in love with Logan, but I really don't like Jess. Rory can do so much better. Given the choice between the two, I'd rather her end up with Logan.

[kanga1622]

I loved this episode! This one will be watched numerous times on the Tivo before the next one.

I am not sure I'm happy about Jess coming back. It'd be nice to see Rory go back to Yale (the whole Paris as editor thing really shook her - Lorelai totally saw that and knew that Rory was thinking that should have been her) but I think Logan and Rory work well together. She could totally work his family business and she can keep him in line for the most part.

I'm a little worried that Jess may somehow come between Luke and Lorelai. Lor has always disliked Jess and I don't think she'll be too happy if he starts getting into Rory's life and Luke always seems to side with Jess.

[mgrace]

My favorite line of this episode: "It tastes like My Little Pony." Ha!
Loved that line. I heart Luke!

I'm glad that Jess is coming back, just because I'm hoping that he makes Rory question who she is now. Everyone is letting Rory do what she wants to do right now (which is good), but I don't think Rory is seeing who see is/is becoming. I think Jess will remind her of how different she is now and that will lead to some changes for Rory. It doesn't mean that she has to end up with Jess (or Logan); maybe she will be alone for a while. Either way, I still say, Logan needs to go. ;)

[jesseybell]

I want Logan to go, but I don't want Jess to come back. They need new characters to be her friends to be realistic. When Emily was doing the guest list, Paris and Lane were her only friends,meaning she didn't make any friends the 2 years she was at Yale.

[bunnybeth]

Very good episode, I loved it all. Though it is said that Richard has estranged all 3 of his "Gilmore girls" now.

From the preview, it just didn't look like Rory rekindles any of her interest for Jess. I think she's past that point of her life. But, if he can give her back some of the ambition she lost, it would be a great thing for her life and something her mom and grandparents just can't do for her.

[jeepgirl]

When Emily was doing the guest list, Paris and Lane were her only friends,meaning she didn't make any friends the 2 years she was at Yale.


Good point Jesseybell.

[lawyerlee]

Last night's episode was really good! Finally! :D

Richard's sadness about Rory's current situation in life really moved me. He "gets" it, unlike Emily. She doesn't have a freaking clue about Rory's potential and how hard Lorelai worked to try to make Rory's dreams a possibility for her. To her, it's all about whether she's having sex or get's knocked up. But to him, it's about whether she fulfills her intellectual capacity and makes her contributions to the world.

It broke my heart for Rory and Lorelai to get the news that Paris is the editor of the Yale Daily News. That is what Rory should be doing, not hosting parties for the goddamned DAR. :mad: :( It is so clear that Rory isn't really happy with her life right now, aside from Logan. She just has injured pride and doesn't know how to bounce back. Hopefully Richard can help her do that. He believes in her. It makes me so emotional because my grandfather believed in me that way. He's gone now, but it means so much to know that someone believes in you like that and to have that kind of cheerleader in your life.

Oh, and when Luke gave Rory his mother's pearl necklace, and she told that woman it was from her future step-father? So moving. He's always been like a father to her, so much more than Christopher ever was. It was so right. *sigh* :)

I was pleased to see that Jess will come back into her life as a friend and challenge her to take a look at herself and decide if she likes what she sees. He has always been good at helping her do that. And even though he is not a good partner for her, she could use a friend like him right now.

[Mellow_Water1]

I also loved it when Rory introduced Luke as her stepfather-to-be. I saw the way his eyes lit up. :)

I also think it's good that Jess will reappear. I read in a magazine, that didn't give too much away, that Jess comes back after accomplishing something impressive (the magazine mentioned what it was, but I don't want to give it away in case anyone here doesn't want to know) and it makes Rory think about getting her act together.

[ejs]

I've been watching off and on this season. When did Rory get so sassy? I was surprised at how she spoke to the minister.

[Brandy]

Best episode in a long time! The gift from Luke to Rory- so touching! And even though I hated Jess, I am sooo glad that he is coming back! I read in 'Ask Ausiello' on tvguide.com that is coming back as a good guy (thank goodness!). Can't wait for next week!

[LeslieandPaul]

I really liked last night's episode-it was so touching. Lorelai and Rory seem to be making some progress. I loved the look on Luke's face when Rory called him her stepfather to be-he looked shocked and happy. I didn't know Jess was coming back! That's cool-maybe it'll break her and Logan up (I'm still not sure if I like him or not).

[Whitters20]

You know, I don't hate Logan but I don't really like him a whole lot either. I think he's a good "fun" guy for Rory to date but I just never thought of her with a rich and powerful guy. And although I really hated the way Jess treated Rory back in season 3, I always thought that if he would grow up and get his life together they would be perfect. So, I guess we'll see what happens. I can't imagine GG bringing him back permentantly though. Maybe it's only for one episode. Although I always wondered what would happen when Luke and Lorelai get married. Wouldn't Jedd be there and how would it affect Rory? Oh well, I seriously doubt they'll get married this season.

I'm also interested to see if Richard's little vent will cause another rift with Emily. But I'm glad to see Lorelai and Richard getting closer. Jeez, I just love how I talk about these people like they're real. :p

[Mellow_Water1]

Although I always wondered what would happen when Luke and Lorelai get married. Wouldn't Jess be there and how would it affect Rory? Oh well, I seriously doubt they'll get married this season.


You know, I've also thought about how Rory has dated her future stepcousin. But that was the 12 year-old coming out in me. :o :p

[Lauren]

I'm still annoyed with GG this season. This episode was better, but meh. I'm just fed up with Rory and her bratty attitude, and Logan drives me nuts. They're trying to make us like him, but I won't do it! :p

All of Richard and Emily's talk about Rory sex life had me squirming -- how uncomfortable!

Very interesting that Jess is coming back, and even more interesting that he seems to be a voice of reason... I never liked him, but someone needs to say the things that it seems he'll be saying to Rory next week...

[Rosebud]

I'm not in love with Logan, but I really don't like Jess. Rory can do so much better. Given the choice between the two, I'd rather her end up with Logan.

I totally agree. Jess has always rubbed me the wrong way. And I think Logan is actually good for Rory.

It bothers me that it takes an old boyfriend to make Rory take a hard look at herself. Why hasn't ANYONE else (people who are closer to her!) expressed their feeling that she's not living up to her potential?! Lorelei, Logan, Richard... they all think it's true, but none of them has had the balls to say it to her. They really should. They owe it to Rory, I think. If they really care about her.

I'm having so many mixed feelings about Lorelei after this episode. Really sad for her, because you can see how much the Rory situation is hurting her. But I was so frustrated with her when she was talking with Richard. Both times, Richard was trying to tell her (in his own way) that he agreed with her about Rory and wanted to do something to help and Lorelei just couldn't even listen to him. Her pride is preventing her from helping her daughter and repairing her relationship with her father. I hate it when she gets stubborn and selfish like that! I really think she could have patched up this rift sooner if she'd worked at it.

[KaliLily]

Why hasn't ANYONE else (people who are closer to her!) expressed their feeling that she's not living up to her potential?! Lorelei, Logan, Richard... they all think it's true, but none of them has had the balls to say it to her. They really should. They owe it to Rory, I think. If they really care about her.

Lorelai pretty much did that at the end of last season when Rory told her she was dropping out of Yale. The argument that ensued, plus Rory running to her Grandparents when Lorelai told her she couldn't move back home if she quit school, is what brought about this rift in the first place.

I think Lorelai will be more open to working with Richard after their talk at the end of this week's episode. I can see why she was resistant to him at first, what with him wanting to bribe Rory into going back to school. But Lorelai seemed to soften to Richard in the den scene, as she saw how truly devastated and guilty he felt. Richard sincerely admitting he screwed up should go a long way with Lorelai.

[Rosebud]

Lorelai pretty much did that at the end of last season when Rory told her she was dropping out of Yale. The argument that ensued, plus Rory running to her Grandparents when Lorelai told her she couldn't move back home if she quit school, is what brought about this rift in the first place.

I know, I just feel like it wasn't right of Lorelei to cut off all contact. She can be hurt and upset (and rightfully so), but I still think she should have made a continuing effort to get through to Rory. I'm not sure that "tough love" is going to do anything to help Rory. But I hope you're right about Lorelei and Richard starting to work together in the future! That would really be for the best.

How funny was Luke in that episode? "What's the DAR?!"

[jmvan74]

How funny was Luke in that episode? "What's the DAR?!"
LOL!! I'm still laughing about this.

[KaliLily]

I'm still laughing about the virtue/sweater comment. When DH came home, I told him he's lucky he got my virtue. Otherwise, I'd have had to just give him a sweater. His response? "A sweater would have been nice."

[houseblend]

I'm still laughing about the virtue/sweater comment. When DH came home, I told him he's lucky he got my virtue. Otherwise, I'd have had to just give him a sweater. His response? "A sweater would have been nice."

LOL! Funny guy!

[Lauren]

I know, I just feel like it wasn't right of Lorelei to cut off all contact. She can be hurt and upset (and rightfully so), but I still think she should have made a continuing effort to get through to Rory. I'm not sure that "tough love" is going to do anything to help Rory.

Agreed. I just don't see how not talking to her is going to help anything.

I was cracking up about the virtue/sweater comment, too. MY DH doesn't even like sweaters. :p

I am curious to see whether Lorelai and Richard can come to some sort of an agreement about helping Rory. I mean, they both want the same thing, and ITA that him admitting that he'd been wrong should go a long way with Lorelai... I'm just eager for this whole stupid thing to get resolved already! This storyline is driving me nuts.

[twinnyme]

I'm just fed up with Rory and her bratty attitude, and Logan drives me nuts.

I think that some of the ways Rory is acting actually makes her more realistic. She's always been such a good girl - good student, good daughter, etc. - and there's nothing at all wrong with that (I was very like that and didn't really rebel until AFTER college :rolleyes: ) but I think it's more realistic that she's acting out a bit and finding her way. I just hope it doesn't ruin her life (I, too, am talking about her life she's a real person!).

Richard was trying to tell her (in his own way) that he agreed with her about Rory and wanted to do something to help and Lorelei just couldn't even listen to him. Her pride is preventing her from helping her daughter and repairing her relationship with her father. I hate it when she gets stubborn and selfish like that! I really think she could have patched up this rift sooner if she'd worked at it.

I completely agree that Lorelai is letting her pride get in the way, but that's sort of consistent with her character - and the fact that she isn't always the mature one. I completely agree with Lorelai that Rory has to come to the realization on her own about what her life has become. My personal belief is that you can NEVER force someone to do what you want them to do until THEY are ready to do it - and trying to force them will probably make the rift open wider! Though when friends are going through rough times, I do try to talk them through it, I also know that they need to make whatever decision needs to be made for themselves, when they're ready. People have been generous enough in my life to treat me that way and I return the favor now.

Of course, ask me in 13 years when I have a teenage daughter how I feel?? (She's 9 months now!) :)

[Sazoo]

I'm still laughing about the virtue/sweater comment. When DH came home, I told him he's lucky he got my virtue. Otherwise, I'd have had to just give him a sweater. His response? "A sweater would have been nice."Hee hee...leave it to Joe. :p I ought to say the same thing to Jason & see what his response is. He missed the show this week, so he won't know what I'm talking about. ;)

[KaliLily]

Hee hee...leave it to Joe. :p I ought to say the same thing to Jason & see what his response is. He missed the show this week, so he won't know what I'm talking about. ;)

Jason's pretty twisted. He might have wanted a sweater, too. :rolleyes:

[JamBray]

Paris and Lane were her only friends,meaning she didn't make any friends the 2 years she was at Yale.
Actually now in thinking about it, whatever happened to Marty?

[Lauren]

I think Marty sort of dropped out of the picture after he told Rory he liked her, and she said she liked Logan... Have we even seen him since the "Duck Soup" episode? It's sad -- I hope he comes back.

[Txfish]

On the "has she made any friends" thing, I think that maybe she has really cut herself off from so much of what her life involved at Yale that she just didn't ask anyone else... Lane & Paris are really the only two that have been constants. I could totally see I if were in her situation that I wouldn't invite any of my "Yale friends".

The party was terrific, just from a standpoint of bringing back the quirky ;) Between "My Little Pony" and "What's the DAR?", I think Luke definitely wins the episode. He's so great for both of them.

And, I hate Jess. I'm not sure if I care that he comes back as a "good guy"; I just can't stand him and don't want to watch him. Whiny little brat. I like Logan so much more -- I do wish he'd give Rory a shove back into her life, but I like him.

The scene with Richard/Emily/Lorelei was phenomenal. All of those things that you think and feel about your family, but try not to say -- and they all just come spilling out. "We haven't failed until she comes home pregnant!" Wow. Richard is great lately, and I just thought that whole scene was so real -- because I think you would actually not want your wife's life for your granddaughter, without being disapproving of your wife's life. But it's a very delicate subject to deal with.

We'll get Marty back when she goes back to Yale. And promptly gets elected Editor in lieu of Paris, because she's so flipping annoying LOL Just kidding, I don't think that will happen until after Rory goes and dedicates herself to the "craft" and proves herself as a journalist. She's not used to losing or not being the best -- it's hard to swallow, and hard to get past rather than quitting.

[jmvan74]

The scene with Richard/Emily/Lorelei was phenomenal. All of those things that you think and feel about your family, but try not to say -- and they all just come spilling out. "We haven't failed until she comes home pregnant!" Wow. Richard is great lately, and I just thought that whole scene was so real -- because I think you would actually not want your wife's life for your granddaughter, without being disapproving of your wife's life. But it's a very delicate subject to deal with.


Totally agree. ;)

[Sazoo]

And, I hate Jess. I'm not sure if I care that he comes back as a "good guy"; I just can't stand him and don't want to watch him. Whiny little brat. I like Logan so much more -- I do wish he'd give Rory a shove back into her life, but I like him.Couldn't have said this better myself. :D

[KaliLily]

The party was terrific, just from a standpoint of bringing back the quirky ;) Between "My Little Pony" and "What's the DAR?", I think Luke definitely wins the episode. He's so great for both of them.

And Lorelai must come in second with her reply, "My native american name" when Richard called her "dificult girl." That had me rolling! :)

[bunnybeth]

Ok, since the preview said "in coming weeks" DH thinks Gimore Girls will be a rerun tomorrow. But, I think it may be new, since they did show a preview. Anyone know for sure?

[Mrs.B]

Can I just say how great Rory looks with bangs!

I can't wait until her and Lorelai make up...this is driving me crazy.

Does anyone think Rory will go back to school? Maybe spring semester? She needs to get out of that pool house and I'm not too sure about keeping Logan around...It's still hard for me to see her being an adult..she was so "pure" and good as a kid, you know?

[KaliLily]

Ok, since the preview said "in coming weeks" DH thinks Gimore Girls will be a rerun tomorrow. But, I think it may be new, since they did show a preview. Anyone know for sure?

According to my onscreen DirectTV guide, tomorrow night is a rerun of this season's first episode.

[polarama]

I know, I just feel like it wasn't right of Lorelei to cut off all contact. She can be hurt and upset (and rightfully so), but I still think she should have made a continuing effort to get through to Rory. I'm not sure that "tough love" is going to do anything to help Rory.


Ok, I've really over analyzed this show, but I think Rory's actions at the end of Season 5 were kind of a slap in the face to Lorelai--the scene where Rory is unpacking her stuff in the pool house, and Lor is looking at her through the window. Rory clearly turns and sees her mother, but averts her gaze. It's almost as if Rory was the one in the relationship to "stop talking" so to speak--leaving her grandparents to break the "she's not going to Yale and will live in the pool house" news to Lorelai rather than doing it herself.

So while I think not talking isn't solving any problems, I do think Rory should be the one to reach out.

[Sazoo]

Ok, I've really over analyzed this show, but I think Rory's actions at the end of Season 5 were kind of a slap in the face to Lorelai--the scene where Rory is unpacking her stuff in the pool house, and Lor is looking at her through the window. Rory clearly turns and sees her mother, but averts her gaze. It's almost as if Rory was the one in the relationship to "stop talking" so to speak--leaving her grandparents to break the "she's not going to Yale and will live in the pool house" news to Lorelai rather than doing it herself.

So while I think not talking isn't solving any problems, I do think Rory should be the one to reach out.
I agree with part of what you said - that Rory is sort of the one who cut off communication with her mom & turned her back on her (knowing her mom would disapprove of her decisions to leave school, live in her grandparent's pool house, etc.). But Lorelai is the mom - the adult (I know Rory just turned 21, but still). I think that means she bears a little bit more responsibility for being the bigger person & reaching out to her daughter than the other way around. Really I think they're both being silly about this whole not-talking thing, & I'd be happy to see either one of them reach out & try to re-connect. But I do kind of think more of the responsibility for that should fall on Lorelai than on Rory. Just my $0.02... :)

[Rosebud]

SPOILER ALERT!!

Okay, I just read a BIG Gilmore Girls spoiler that totally bums me out. Here's the link to the spoiler, if you dare. There are some other minor spoilers in this link, as well.

Gilmore Girls Spoiler (http://home.austarnet.com.au/craigbest/site/gilmore/pages/s6/s6spoilers/118.html)

There is much discussion and whining on the TWOP boards if you're interested:

http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com (http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=878424&st=8280)

[Sazoo]

Thanks for the spoiler link! :) But I guess I don't get what's got you bummed out about it. :confused: I can see that there is potential for this twist to create some issues for certain characters, but I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing.

Trying to be a little bit cryptic so I don't give anything away for those who are trying to avoid reading spoilers. ;)

[Mellow_Water1]

Ok, I don't want to know what the spoiler is, but is it for a specific episode? When? Thanks! :)

[JillyBean]

The spoiler says it's about an episode that will air on November 15th.

I'll be interested to see how that works out.

[Brandy]

Nov 15th.

I've read about this on tvguide.com and it is TOTALLY bumming me out too and I don't exactly know why! Why can't they just let things be perfect? ;)

[Leia]

Argh! I am a HUGE GG fan, and I am not happy with this spoiler. It's bad enough stupid Jess was in last week's previews, and now this? It's just too soap-opera-y for me.

[jmvan74]

Wow! read the spoiler. I'm not sure how i feel about it. My initial feeling is sadness...but i'll have to watch and see.

[lauren f s]

I just checked and tonight's GG is a repeat....how long will they make us wait until they show the episode with Jess?

[mgrace]

Ok, since the preview said "in coming weeks" DH thinks Gimore Girls will be a rerun tomorrow. But, I think it may be new, since they did show a preview. Anyone know for sure?
Tonight's episode is a repeat. You can check out The WB (www.thewb.com) for info on upcoming episodes for Nov sweeps.

[polarama]

I hate the spoiler. :( It seems very...out of place. It's not something I'd expect to see on GG. It's too soap-opera-y.

[LeslieandPaul]

I was all excited to watch it last night, and see Jess come back, and it was a REPEAT!!! I actually yelled at the tv!! It makes me so mad! Grrrr...next week had better be new!

[KaliLily]

next week had better be new!

According to the end-of-episode preview last night, it will be.

[houseblend]

I hate the spoiler. :( It seems very...out of place. It's not something I'd expect to see on GG. It's too soap-opera-y.

ITA

[lauren f s]

Just wanted to share something I just read on E! Online:

From joey04: Any Gilmore scoop?
I don't know if credit goes to Jess, Lorelai or Madeleine Albright, but the overachiever, academic Rory we all know and love returns within the next couple weeks. I hear she looks for a job in journalism, and someone gives her an evaluation that is quite the opposite of the one she received from Mitchum Huntzbergerstupidhead.

[Sazoo]

lauren f s, that might be considered a spoiler by some people, so you might want to change the text color of what you posted to white so that people who are trying to avoid reading spoilers don't accidentally see it. ;)

I, however, do read spoilers, so I am happy about what you posted from E! Online. :D

[KaliLily]

I, however, do read spoilers, so I am happy about what you posted from E! Online. :D


OK, now you're making me want to read it! HEEEEEEEEEEELP! :eek:

[Sazoo]

:D :p

[kugrrly]

just highlight that area and PRESTO the spoiler!! :)

[PookiePrincess]

Some additional spoilers...building off what Lauren f s posted
[Episode that airs Nov 8: 11/02 - Amy Sherman-Palladino confirms that Jess (not last week's special guest, Madeline Albright) will be the one to wake Rory out of her DAR-induced coma. "Rory doesn't have any straight talkers in her life," she points out. "So, to bring back a real straight talker - someone who really knew her when - at this point in the arc was very important. It's a very satisfying episode. And it's a very satisfying way of reconnecting with [Jess]." Source: Ask Ausiello @ TV Guide

Episode that airs Nov 15th: A call from Christopher sparks a rift between Lorelai and Luke, who's recruited to be part of a science-fair project. In other events, Rory moves in with Lane; and Luke's grandmother's bedroom furnishings fit into Lorelai's boudoir, but not with Lorelai. Source: TV Guide Online
Both from spoiler fix. ]

[jmvan74]

I love spoilers! plus it's so much fun to click on it to see it! I need to get out more.. hehhe!:p

[BsstGrl]

Is the new episode on tonight? I think so, but wasn't sure. It's start of sweeps now so I would think it would be new. Can't wait to see how things play out!

[annielynn]

The new episode it tonight. I cannot wait to see what happens.

[Wrighty26]

Yay! I'm so excited for tonight's show... I was watching the 4th season DVD yesterday-- particularly the episode where Jess comes back and tell's Rory that he ready for a relationship now (when Rory tells him NO!) and it made me so excited to see what tonight's episode brings. I was never the biggest Rory/Jess fan-- but I do like Jess' character. Weird? :) I like that he pushes Rory's buttons...

[JillyBean]

I'm kinda the same way. I never really cared for Rory and Jess together, but I like Jess' character. He's sarcastic and honest, which I like. Can't wait for tonight!

[KaliLily]

Rory has seen the light! WOO HOO!!!!!!!!! Can't wait for next week!:D

[maxandmolly]

YEAH! Finally!!

[PookiePrincess]

I wondered how long it would take her to get fed up with Emily treating her like a child. I thought the scene at the Russian tea party was priceless. Lorelai was right...they really were looking at Rory as their second chance to raise a child the way they wanted. Too bad Rory is more like Lorelai than they thought!!!

[EmilyBronte]

I wonder what will happen between Rory and Logan after this episode. I didn't necessarily like how Logan treated Jess, but guys are like that sometimes - I think Logan was a bit jealous. Anyway, I thought Logan's outbreak was very natural. It's hard for people to understand that just because a person/family has a ton of money doesn't necessarily mean they are on Easy Street. My DH and I have been thinking this about Logan for some time now and were wondering when he would snap.

Loved the encounter between Rory and Emily, and I'm so glad to see the previews for next week! Maybe a reunion with Rory will prompt Lorelai to give the dog to someone else - I don't really care for that addition to the show.

[fastlayne224]

Just wanted to say that I LOVED tonights show and cannot wait to see next weeks episode. Things are finally getting back to "normal" on this show!!!!! :D

[houseblend]

I'm so excited for next week's show! I'm so glad Rory has finally woken up from her spell. Since this is Logan's first fight in a real relationship, it will be interesting how he handles it next or if Rory will even give him another chance. He was quite the jerk to Jess. I think it was because he was jealous and stressed by his father pressuring him, but he took it too far.

I totally related to the paint selection dilemma. I'm awful at picking paint colors.

[jeepgirl]

Just wanted to say that I LOVED tonights show and cannot wait to see next weeks episode. Things are finally getting back to "normal" on this show!!!!!


YAY! DITTO!!!

[Rosebud]

My TIVO shut off before the preview for next week. Can anyone describe it for me? TIA!

I wonder what will happen between Rory and Logan after this episode. I didn't necessarily like how Logan treated Jess, but guys are like that sometimes - I think Logan was a bit jealous. Anyway, I thought Logan's outbreak was very natural. It's hard for people to understand that just because a person/family has a ton of money doesn't necessarily mean they are on Easy Street. My DH and I have been thinking this about Logan for some time now and were wondering when he would snap.

I totally agree. I feel for Logan. However, I think the writers are clearly prepping us for a Rory/Logan break-up.

The Lorelai/Paul Anka storyline was so sad!! However I do love that Paul Anka "has the queer eye." That cracked me up.

Can't wait till next week! WHEN is the Rory/Lorelei reunion coming, already?!

[jeneca128]

According to the preview the reunion is happening next week, but then they alluded to some secret in Lukes past that could jeporadize their relationship... :mad: I hate that! Just let them get married and be happy dang it!

[Sazoo]

This episode was so satisfying. I'm thrilled to see the "old Rory" back again - finally! :) This was the first time I actually liked Jess. He was just what Rory needed to snap her out of her daze & see what she's doing (or not doing, rather) with her life.

Can't wait for next week! :D

[stevesbabygirl]

Though she was acting a little bratty at the end, I love that Rory stood up to Emily; it's about damn time! I never liked Jess for Rory, but I love how he brought her back to Earth.

[Linnybubbles]

I ADORED last night's episode, I used to LOVE Jess (who is Alexis' real life BF) and it was great that he was the one to shove her back into line. Next week looks so good, the preview I saw brought me to tears. Rory and Lorelai running across the lawn and hugging, saying they missed each other.:D

[Wrighty26]

It's so good to see Jess "all grown up"! I really didn't want him to leave... (I love that Alexis and Milo are still together-- they really are a cute couple!)

Logan was SUCH an ass....BUT that's exactly how Jess treated Dean back in the day. I kinda pitied Logan when he started his rant....but not in an empathetic way. Especiallly since I don't think that Rory blames Logan for any of her decisions.

The Paul Anka storyline was so sad, but I really like how they are protraying Luke this year. Last year they were together-- but you never really saw Luke's soft side with Lorelei. What a great guy :)

I'm really really really looking forward to next week....YAY!

[lauren f s]

I loved last night's episode.

I'm glad they showed Jess in a good light. I never really cared for him and was glad to see he's doing something with his life. I think seeing that he had a book published really got to Rory. And I am so happy he knocked some sense into her!

Lorelei had me tearing up at the end, when she was in Rory's room with Paul Anka and talking to Luke. I got the feeling she wasn't just talking about the dog...

[mom_to_zoe]

Great episode! Exactly what we have been waiting for. I think Rory has a whole new appreciation for Lorelei's perspective on Richard and Emily, especially Emily. But I have to say, I thought Rory was kind of in the wrong. She is living in their house and even if she is 21, they can make her live according to their rules. If she doesn't like it, she should leave, which I think she is going to do.

I still don't like Jess's too-cool-for-school rebel persona, but I thought Logan was such a jerk to him, and I liked that Jess called Rory on all her recent lame behavior.

[KaliLily]

I find it hard to feel sorry for Logan. He does have choices. He can tell his father he doesn't want to run the family business (or should I say Empire :rolleyes: ). That may mean that his father cuts him off, but so what?!?! Stand on your own, Logan! Grow a spine!

Lorelai didn't let the loss of her parents' money stop her from living her life her way. She went out and made it on her own, and has a pretty great life in my opinion.

[JamBray]

I also though last night's episode was great! Although I never liked Jess, I adored him last night and loved how he was the one questioning Rory on what she was doing and why, and helping her to see that how she was living really wasn't who she was.

Logan was a complete ass to Jess, but like someone else said, Jess was getting a taste of his own medicine in how he always treated Dean. I actually liked that Logan exploded and let Rory know that the grass isn't always greener and having all the privileges can actually suck.

The scene in Rory's old room was so sad, but Luke was just so great with Lorelei. The whole soccer storyline though was stupid.

YAY! Rory finally gives the smackdown to Emily. :) Everything about that scene was awesome, and it was good to see that Emily can't mold Rory into a "society girl" like she thought.

Can't wait for next week! :D

[Rosebud]

Posted by Jeneca128: According to the preview the reunion is happening next week, but then they alluded to some secret in Lukes past that could jeporadize their relationship... I hate that! Just let them get married and be happy dang it!

Oh, that's right! I forgot that next week is the episode we read about in the spoiler. :( Thanks for posting that for me, Jeneca!

[bunnybeth]

Great episode. I thought Rory's fights with Logan and Emily were great scenes. It felt like the "real" Rory was back. Can't wait to see her reunion with Lorelei.

According to the preview the reunion is happening next week, but then they alluded to some secret in Lukes past that could jeporadize their relationship... :mad: I hate that! Just let them get married and be happy dang it!

That is exactly what I thought when I saw the preview! Luke & Lorelei are meant for each other and I'll be so mad if anything happens to ruin that.
:mad:

[cc8]

I only watch this show intermittently and am still trying to catch up last season (renting DVDs) - so some really elementary questions:

1. How did Rory wind up living with her grandmother? Did she and Lorelai get in a fight?

2. Why did Rory drop out of Yale?

[JamBray]

Originally posted by cc8
1. How did Rory wind up living with her grandmother? Did she and Lorelai get in a fight?

2. Why did Rory drop out of Yale?
Rory dropped out of Yale after interning at Logan's father's newspaper. He brought her into his office after a staff meeting and told her she just didn't have what it took to make it in journalism. This so shattered Rory's confidence and self esteem, that she questioned even attending Yale and so decided to drop out. After sharing her plans with her mom (but leaving out the part about Logan's father), Lorelei blew up and told Rory that she was making a huge mistake, which Rory denied, and then they stormed away from each other. She then went to her parents for help in getting Rory to go back to school, at which point they all agreed to do whatever it took to get Rory back at Yale.

The next day(?) Rory showed up at her grandparents and broke down, pleading with her grandfather to help her out (but still not saying anything about what happened at the paper). After this we saw Lorelei at her parent's house again where they told her that Rory was not going to be going back to Yale after all and would be moving into the pool house. Lorelei felt so betrayed by both Rory and her parents that she basically said she was done with all of them. The show ended with Lorelei looking into the pool house where Rory was putting her stuff away.

[jmvan74]

bravo Rory! Finally, that girl is back. I agree that the scene with Lorelai and Luke in rory's room, was not really about Paul Anka. I thought the story line with the soccer team served it's purpose...it will tie in with next week's episode.
I like that Jess got it together and called Rory out, but I'm glad he left. She needs to work things out on her own. I do really like Logan. Maybe he'll learn a little from rory.

[ManteoChik]

I actually like Logan and Rory together. I don't think Logan ever pushed Rory to be something that she wasn't, he always let her be herself and make her own decisions. I don't think it makes her less of a guy because she is dating someone with money. I really hope that this whole thing with jess doesn't cause her to break up with Logan.

[cc8]

Thanks jambray for the summary! I went to Blockbuster this afternoon, hunting for GG Season 4, Disc 4 but they don't carry the series at all. I guess I will have to wait for Netflix to ship it to me...

[Wrighty26]

I find it hard to feel sorry for Logan. He does have choices. He can tell his father he doesn't want to run the family business (or should I say Empire :rolleyes: ). That may mean that his father cuts him off, but so what?!?! Stand on your own, Logan! Grow a spine!

Lorelai didn't let the loss of her parents' money stop her from living her life her way. She went out and made it on her own, and has a pretty great life in my opinion.

I agree!!