Still At It - Fall 2005

[wonderousglance]

I had a dreaded baby shower to go to yesterday. It was awful, just awful. Everybody kept asking why we didn't have any kids. WTF is it anybody's business?!?! I've never asked anyone when they were going to have children. It's just plain rude. :mad:

I feel like I am at such a stand still right now. We can't do anything else until DH's SA is done. Then I have to get the ultrasound to rule out PCOS, but I have to wait until CD 4. I am currently on CD 16. :(

AG- BIG congrats on the +!!!! :)

Karla- I am so sorry that you didn't get a +BFP. You & your DH are in my prayers. Best of luck in the adoption process. :)

[tigerest]

Hi ladies! It's been a while since I stopped by so I am way behind! So much seems to have changed for a lot of us! I was on a TTC break, and still am for about another month. I am the one with the blocked tubes, and I am trying Clear Passage. Its going really well! I notice such a difference! Anyway, I am almost done with that! And I am scheduled to have a follow up HSG Dec 7th!!! EEK!!! I am so nervous. I figure in the next 5 months or so we will be at the end of our journey. I will either be pregnant, or it will be over, and hopefully adoption would be the next and final step.

Speaking of Adoption I sort of have a mini vent. A step cousin of mine has been trying for 8 years!! Can you believe that, 8 years?!! She had cancer during this time as well. Well recently they gave up and decided to adopt. They got their baby a month ago! Totally wonderful! Well last night my mom tells me, "GUESS WHAT!!!!?" And I am like "what"? "SHE IS PREGNANT!!!!" The babies will be 10 months apart! How crazy is that!! I just can't believe it! They were trying for 8 years! Anyway, I think its awesome. My vent is my mom, she tells me at the end of the conversation…"JUST ADOPT AND YOU'LL GET PG!!!!" UGH! We have totally unrelated problems, she had cancer, and apparently her body was just finally ready. I have blocked tubes and endo! It just doesn’t work that way. I didn’t get mad at her, she was so excited! But it just doesn’t help, ya know. I am not going to adopt just for the hope I might get magically get PG.

Dh has been having a harder time than me lately. Of course, I no idea until this weekend. I think he feel bad for complaining since the problem entirely lies with me. But he was very sad that he is almost 30 and wanted to have kids before 30 and we still don't have kids. He even said things that used to bother me, like how it hurts to walk around and see other people with kids. I hate to see him sad. It sucks.

Anyway, sorry for just popping in out of nowhere. I just really needed somewhere to vent about all this, and this is just about the only place I have right now, where people will really understand.

Wishing luck to everyone.

[graciebella]

Once again I have no clue what my body is doing. 1st clomid cycle, CD19, temps and OPK have not indicated O, and I have had brown spotting that has gotten progressively worse since Friday. Spoke w/doctors office and they said not to worry, the spotting was normal. (wtf? brown clots are normal?) Have to go in for bloodwork Wed. anyway.

tigerest~ what is Clear Passage?

[jennylou]

gracie - hang in there! I didn't ovulate until CD 21 last cycle on clomid. It was frustrating!

wonderousglance - ick, sorry about the baby shower. Those are rough.

ago - any news on the repeat beta?

karla - how are you doing? I'm thinking of you.

MrsSmith - sorry about AF. Will you have your dosage upped this cycle?

Jules - GL this cycle, hope it's the one for you guys. :)

la_bride - How much longer are you two on your break? Hope you have quick sucess!

As for me, I had a follie check this morning. I have four dominant follies on my left ovary. It's CD 8 for me. I can't believe that I would have such good follies and my ovary still doesn't want to give one up early in my cycle! I was told to expect a call from the doc or nurse, hopefully tomorrow, to tell me what they think. I'm pretty sure the doc is not going to want to up the dosage based upon the four follies, but I left my charts for her viewing pleasure anyways. ;) In my little packet I made up for her, I indicated I hadn't heard back from the nurse as to whether or not these would do instead of an appt since the doc is so busy right now. I also indicated on my current chart that I didn't start the clomid until CD 6 because the clomid was not called into the pharmacy until then. Hopefully, that will prompt her to ask WTF is going on in that office. I know she's busy (she's just back from maternity leave and her partner left on a family emergency until the new year), but I still would appreciate a return phone call! Anyways, I guess I'll know more tomorrow (though, I imagine it will be Thursday before I hear anything knowing the return call rate at that office).

[tigerest]

gracie - It's my last resort in hoping my tubes can be unblocked so I can TTC naturally. (I had them surgically opened, but it didnt last.) A lot of women are trying it and my RE even knew about them. So I figured it was worth a shot. I'll find out soon. :) http://www.clearpassage.com

[skb]

So as always my cycle is right on schedule. I could set a clock by it!!!

I called my ObGyn's office this afternoon to set up the HSG appointment and the assistant was gone for the day. ~sigh~ She is supposed to call me back tomorrow. I suspect it will be scheduled for early next week and cycle 16 will be the same old thing. If the HSG comes back "normal" then the diagnosis is officially "unxplained infertility" and I will begin clomid for cycle 17.

Any words of wisdom would be appreciated.

[knoelani]

My dh really can be an insensitive ass sometimes. Usually he's wonderful, but man can he slip sometimes. Two good friends of ours came over this evening so that the husband could go over his resume with me prior to submitting it at my company. Well of course they also announced their pregnancy while they were here. My dh knew about it and didn't tell me before hand! Never even crossed his mind that I'd rather know about it before hand and have time to prepare before being blindsidded by the news.

On another note...glad to see you again tiger! I'm glad to hear that the clear passage is working :)

[karlatta]

I have no time for shout-outs, but I wanted to stop by and update.

DH and I have started looking into adoption agencies and asking for information. We both feel really positive about the whole thing and hope that we can have a baby in our arms within the year.

I am still waiting on AF to show, but she should be here any day. I am 16 dpo today, and lately I've had LPs of 19-20 days. (Yeah, my body is weird.) I kind of want to go in for a beta, just to be sure, but it's really a pain to get there after work, and it's $45 I just don't want to spend.

[jennylou]

tiger - I hope that the clear passage works. :)

skb - sorry about af.

knoelani - ugh, I hate pregnancy announcements that I'm not prepared for.

karla - still thinking about you.

[DallasLady]

I haven't been around much either, I will come back and do shout-outs in a bit.

This cycle has actually gone well for us. I was on 50mg of clomid CD3-7 to move up my O date and produce more follicles. Well, it did move up O, but I only had one follicle. I triggered at 20.5mm with a lining of 9.4mm.

Because we have male factor, and I was feeling pretty down about having only one follicle. Well, we went in for the IUI and DH and I almost passed out when they told us what his count was. When he was diagnosed, he was averaging between 11-14 mil/mL, but for the IUI he had 100 mil/mL!!! We were able to have a post-wash count of 80 million, which is really good (we were hoping to have at least 10 million).

So, maybe this will do it for us. I am still in disbelief that his numbers were that high. The nurse said she even double checked because she couldn't believe it either.

[Cath]

Hi everyone. I participated in the thread in the other place but have only lurked occasionally here.

Cath
Me: Catherine, 32
DH: 34
Married: 11/01
TTC: 11/03
Diagnosed w/PCOS in July 2004
Clomid didn't work, now Follistim
3 failed IUIs
1 chemical pregnancy a month we were taking a break(10/05)

I'm glad I don't recognize that many names here, but there are a few. I'll read through and get up to date w/everyone.

Catherine

[marteneym]

Karla I am so sorry about your BFN's. I am so excited for you and your adoption option. I have a sister that is adopted. It is such and amzing thing. Good luck! You are in my thoughts.

ag05 Congrats!

MrsSmith Sorry about AF!

Dallas That is such great news. I am so glad to hear his count is up. All crossable for you that the IUI does the trick.

ETA:WELCOME CATH!

As for me cd22 and 2positive opk's. This will be my earliest O. I am just waiting for my temp to jump. BD timing is perfect.

[Lucy Van Pelt]

[QUOTE=knoelani]My dh really can be an insensitive ass sometimes. Usually he's wonderful, but man can he slip sometimes. Two good friends of ours came over this evening so that the husband could go over his resume with me prior to submitting it at my company. Well of course they also announced their pregnancy while they were here. My dh knew about it and didn't tell me before hand! Never even crossed his mind that I'd rather know about it before hand and have time to prepare before being blindsidded by the news.
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UGH - DH did that to me too - luckily the friends weren't there, but he showed me a video clip of them making the announcement to their family. I just stood there like "What the hell are you thinking???"

Anyway, Things aren't looking promising for me this month. I'm about to call my RE to go in for a blood test so that I can prove that I am not pregnant this cycle and take the provera to start all over again.

[ag05]

My repeat beta was a 3 so unfortunately, the pregnancy did not stick. I will wait for my next AF and then maybe try again that next month if the holidays don't conflict. On a good note, I found out my insurance covers more than I thought so I'm getting some money back. I'm going to go back now and do some catching up on this thread.

[skb]

Finally able to talk to the ObGyn office and I'm set to go for the HSG next week. Also scheduled to work 3 hours after the procedure so I hope that's OK. I read somewhere that an HSG is like a "draino effect" and we will have one more try to see if that is true. After that I'm supposed to start clomid.

Welcome Cath

[skb]

ag05- I am sorry to hear about your beta results. I will hope for a sticky pregnancy during the holidays....for both of us! Take care.

[marteneym]

ag05So sorry to hear your results. {{{HUGS}}}

[MrsSmith]

Well, nothing major going on for me. Just waiting for AF to go and O to come. Sorry to hear about the unexpected preggo announcements and weird questions that people have been getting. I just started a new job in September, so people are still getting to know me. It seems that since then, I've been asked if I have kids at least 100 times!! Enough already. :eek:

Jenny - no, I'm not upping the dose right now. I'm at 100mg. So, I think we'll give that another try.

[knoelani]

ag05~ I'm sorry to hear your results, sending you good thoughts.

[jennylou]

ago - sorry about the results.

MrsSmith - eek, with the new job and questions about kids. That's why I really don't want to change positions right now...I don't want to deal with the questions from people.

[Nigellas]

Oh no, ag05 - I'm so sorry. :(

[julesp313]

Ag05 - I'm so sorry to hear your news... that has to be so frustrating. :(

As for me, CD6 and just wondering what we can do this cycle to help our chances. We have unexplained IF - nothing showing up on any tests that would indicate why we're not pg. So - if I may pick your brains - what can we do to help the odds? Should I try green tea or Robitussin? I can't remember what either of those do but I know I've read about them... Is there anything else that might help? Anything DH can eat/drink/ingest to help his swimmers? I'm ready to try almost anything!

[klav]

julesp313 I've heard accupunture?

[jennylou]

Jules - green tea is to help increase CM. There are new studies, however, that claim that green tea helps prevent the absorption of folic acid. Other things that are able to help with CM include grapefruit and water (lots and lots!). Robitussin thins CM, so if all you have is creamy, it could make it more EW like....it does not help produce more CM. Not sure there's anything you or D can do...take your vitamins and lots of BDing. GL - hope it works this cycle for you! :)

[wonderousglance]

DH did his SA today. It took him 45 minutes. :o He said it was the hardest thing he has ever had to do. This coming from a cancer survivor! :rolleyes:

AG- I am so sorry. :(

[MrsSmith]

ag - I am so sorry. I totally missed your post when I came in here yesterday.

jules - I don't have any advice, just wanted to wish you the best! Stay encouraged!

jenny - yeah, the questions are really getting to me. It takes everything within me to stop from being a smart a$$ and saying "why do you care?" I know people are just being polite. Did I mention that one of the other managers is pregnant? And another lady is expecting her 1st grandchild. So, baby talk is constant. That's exactly what I want to hear about EVERY FREAKIN DAY :rolleyes: The preggo lady was talking the other day and one of the older ladies said "So what are you waiting for Mrs. Smith? You're much younger than the preggo lady. Might as well start now." Thanks, I didn't know. :rolleyes:

[karlatta]

I'm so sorry, ag05. Hugs.

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AF showed today at 18 dpo. So we're officially done. It's kind of a relief. This is the first time, in months, that I haven't cried at a BFN or at AF showing. It feels so good to finally be at the point where we are. Everything about adoption feels so right to me. I know I needed to go through all the treatments that we did in order to feel this way, but I'm so glad all of that is over now. Now I can't wait to find my child and have him or her in my arms!

I'm going to hand over the reigns to this thread to JennyLou later this evening.

[MrsSmith]

Karlatta - I'm going to miss you in this thread, but I'm SOOO happy for you. I can't wait to hear that you have found your little one. My hubby was asking about adoption the other day. I'm not sure that I'm ready yet. Have you looked into adoption in other states. I know that there are radio commercials here all the time saying that adoption is not expensive and there are so many kids trying to find homes. I haven't called to find out, but they make it sound very affordable. Anyway, I'm wishing you the best!

[jennylou]

karla - I look forward to the day (hopefully soon!) where I can wish you congrats on your baby. :) I hope that it is a quick process for you.

[jennylou]

All stats should be updated to here, if I missed you, please just let me know!

[knoelani]

Karla~ Best of luck to you in this new adventure. I'll be keeping with you over in the other thread, cheering you on.

[julesp313]

Thanks for the suggestions...
Klav - I'm so ready to try acupuncture again. I had it for carpal tunnel once and it worked really well. My problem is finding a practitioner - my insurance covers it but all the dr's are hell and gone from where I live and/or work. Guess I'll just have to suck it up and go!

Jenny - didn't know that about green tea, that's good to know! I need to up my water intake just for general health (avoiding headaches mainly) so I'll work on that. I don't think I have CM issues but I figured anything that might help is a good thing. I already told DH to get prepped for plenty of BDing!

MrsSmith - thanks for the encouragement - I am really, really trying to stay upbeat (though that might require the use of artificial stimulants such as Dove dark chocolate...).

Karla - wishing you all the best with the adoption process - will you still be around on the boards? I think there's an adoption thread somewhere and I'd love to still be able to hear great news from you... :)


Me - well, I have green tea at home, am chugging the water, contemplating taking the foul Robitussin. DH is all prepped for major BDing but we have house guests from tonight through Monday so that might put a damper on the romance... mind you, we're not near the O window so it's not that big of a deal! Just trying to stay positive and know that any month could be THE month so we just do what we can, live life, etc etc. Blah... I'm so not good at being positive!

[marteneym]

Karlatta Good luck in your adoption journey. Please keep us posted. You are in my prayers!

I O'ed. A whole week earlier on 100mg than 50 last cycle. That in itself is huge for me. Bd timing is great. I am 2dpo in my 2WW.

Hope you all have a great weekend.

[karlatta]

Thanks, everyone, for all the well-wishes. I am so stinkin' excited about adoption!

I'll still be around the boards. I'm hanging out on the adoption thread, and I'm sure I'll pop in here every once in a while!

[skb]

Happy the weekend is finally here. Heading out for a nice dinner and a nice glass of wine...or two....thanks to AF.

Best wishes Karlatta in your adoption journey.

[ag05]

Thanks y'all.

[thedoorchick]

I have not been in here in awhile, but I'm excited to be almost to the point of starting a new cycle! And of course, excited to see what everyone is up to. I've been out of the country on business for 6 weeks, and I work in kind of an open area (and at the hotel I only have dial-up internet), so I have not been online nearly as much as I used to. I come home Saturday, though (hooray!).

I am on CD14, and not bothering to chart but I have always been pretty regular so I should O within a few days and so the new cycle will start around Dec. 1. We're going to do another IUI with Clomid on CD 3-7. I will ask the RE about upping the Clomid dose too. Since we have MF I would like to have more than just one egg. I'm not scared of multiples so hopefully I can convince him.

I'm doing my benefits for next year right now and it's driving me crazy. I have no idea what to put in my health care spending acct. If December's IUI is successful, I will need nothing towards IF costs. If it's not, and we do another IUI or possibly even IVF, we'll need a heck of a lot! What to do? Frustrating.

Jenny, can you change my stats to reflect the failed IUI last Sept?

A few people I wanted to respond to...

karlatta, I was so sad to hear of your recent news but happy that you're excited about adoption. I hope it is not long at all before you have a little one at home. Best of luck to you.

DallasLady, I've been following your story closely since we're in the same boat. Sounds like things are going well this cycle!

knoelani I totally understand about being prepared for pg announcements. A year ago Jason came home and told me that my SIL was pg. I cried for about 15 minutes after that. If I had heard the news while we were together with his whole family, I don't know how I would have held it together. I was very grateful I had the chance to deal with the initial shock in private.

And to everyone who is annoyed at people asking when they're going to have children, AMEN to that! One of these days I'm actually going to answer, "Well, we'd love to have children and have been having a lot of sex towards that end for quite awhile now. Unfortunately, we have severe male factor infertility and I have also suffered three miscarriages. So it's certainly not a matter of not wanting children." I know that would be rude, but good grief, how rude is it to ask people about their family planning!

[jennylou]

Emily - Welcome back! I'll do a stat update in just a minute for you. As for your benefits, how much of your maternity care/labor & delivery would your insurance cover? If you can use the money put aside pre tax into that in case you are pregnant this cycle that would be good. I just went through this same thing and decided not to put anything aside. I mean, my insurance covered all of my c/s, hospital stay, etc, so it's not like I need any extra for that. After thinking about it, I decided not to put any aside. Hopefully, that was the right decision for me.

[thedoorchick]

My prenatal care should be completely covered except possibly a few copays. We are not 100% on the decision of who/when/where, but I am leaning heavily towards a midwife/birthing center who I know is in our network. I did put a little money aside for that, but it may be too much. I made my elections this morning but I can change it up to Thursday, so I may mull it over until then to be more confident of my decisions.

So, is there anything new in your real estate business? We are nearing completion of the house we're rehabbing; we were going to flip it but we may keep it instead. The tax person in me keeps thinking about how a third of the profit will go to taxes if we sell now. And we have 3 of 10 units vacant so I'm anxious to fill those before the holidays.

[MrsSmith]

I just had to select my amounts for flex spending for 2006. I didn't allocate any for preggo costs. I did, however, add a little for RE prescriptions and visits. So, I'm being somewhat optimistic. I'm figuring that I might get preggo early in the year and have a child early 2007. That's not too bad.

Glad to see everyone back in here and doing well :)

[jennylou]

I'm right there with you on empties emily. We have a put out tomorrow for an eviction and the people haven't seemed to have moved anything out yet, so it should be a labor intensive eviction. We've got three more out of our nine units with outstanding rents, so I'm anxious to get those rents and get the evicted place turned around in time for December rent. Plus, we are working on a complete rehab that we are hoping to have done by Dec 1 as well. Needless to say, we're busy here! And I hear ya on the taxes, have you thought about the 1031 exchange on it?

[thedoorchick]

We absolutely might do a 1031. Problem is, we need the cash out of it for some other purposes (not to mention, we'd have to wait till next summer to 1031 anyway, since we only just bought the property in July).

Most likely option right now is to refi it to cash out as soon as we finish the rehab, and hopefully rent it. Not sure about market rents in the area but we should at least be able to break even, which would be enough for me while we sort out what to do with the house.

[graciebella]

I am so frustrated right now. 1st clomid cycle, Prog. test on day 21 came back at 0.5. Temps are all over the place, no sign of ovulation. In fact, I have had brown/red spotting since CD 16.(never heavy enough for a tampon, but clots of lining too).So for 11 days at this point.

So per md's office, next step is to up Clomid to 100mg next cycle.
But how do I know when to call a new cycle since I have been bleeding and shedding lining for 11 days already, and it started at CD16???? All I keep getting from the ob's office is that I shouldn't worry, the spotting is normal. They did finally say that if it wasn't done by the end of the week, they would re-evaluate.

Add to it that I'm starting a new job in 3 weeks. I told DH this weekend I really wanted to consider not TTC for a few months so that I wouldn't deliver before I was at new company for a year. Right now I don't know specific health/maternity benefits, but I won't have any vacation for the first year. He is not receptive to that idea at all. He thinks any delay at this point is foolish. GRRR.

[Nigellas]

Ugh- GracieB - That must be so frustrating! :(

Emily - Glad you are back! I was wondering how your trip went. :)


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As for me, I finally got some good news for once- DHs SA results came back- Everything was "above average" - so that's one thing we don't need to worry about.

[skb]

Sorry to hear about your frustrating cycle graciebelle. I have a friend who always encourages me to march onward. She made a decision that there is no perfect time to conceive and so she lives by the "just go for it" philosophy. At one point she was aware that dh and I were going to TTC after a, b and c. She again encouraged me to get on with it. Needless to say she conceived both her children the first attempt. ~big sigh~ I never followed her advice....sort of wish I had....but we all have to figure out what is right for ourselves. Hope you and dh figure it out.

As for me.....I have an HSG tomorrow at 11am and I'm scheduled to work at 2pm. My Ob's assistant assured me that this would be fine. I have a physical job. Any thoughts?

[thedoorchick]

Nigellas, great news on the SA; that is always good to know.

skyb, I wouldn't worry about the HSG. I had some cramping during mine but the minute it was over, I was fine. I felt nothing. Had some nasty leakage of the dye for several hours, but that was not really a big deal.

I went straight to work - now granted my job is at a desk, but still, I think you will be fine.

[graciebella]

I also went back to work after HSG.

[Nigellas]

skb- My last HSG was extremely painful, however I was feeling much better almost as soon as it was over- I was really crampy for the rest of the day, but I could function.

Hope that helps!

[wonderousglance]

DH's SA results are in:

Count : 80 million :eek:
Motility: 56%
Normal appearance/function: 14%

In other words, his boys are just fine.

This should make me happy, but I've been crying since the nurse called. Now I know it has to do with me & I feel awful. If DH would have married someone else, he'd probably have the family he always wanted. :( I'm just venting, so please feel free to ignore my negativity. I know it's not good for the thread. :(

[graciebella]

wg, he married you, not your reproductive system.
That sounds short and terse, but I mean it in the best way.

[skb]

Back from my HSG. Unfortunately *extremely panful* with significant findings. It's one of two things 1) bicornuate uterus or 2) septum. My ObGyn did not elaborate. He said my tubes are good. Should not have trouble getting pregnant (after 15 cycles I have a different opinion) but staying pregnant will be the thing. He mentioned something about laproscopy if it is septal and that would be easy to repair. But obviously if its bicornuate that is another story. We will talk about these things at my appointment in one week.

Anyone have experience with this? I'm upset as you can well imagine. I will be ovulating before that appointment, do we continue TTC?

[jennylou]

DH's SA results are in:

Count : 80 million :eek:
Motility: 56%
Normal appearance/function: 14%

In other words, his boys are just fine.

This should make me happy, but I've been crying since the nurse called. Now I know it has to do with me & I feel awful. If DH would have married someone else, he'd probably have the family he always wanted. :( I'm just venting, so please feel free to ignore my negativity. I know it's not good for the thread. :(

Please, don't feel like this. My DH's count was 240 million (yeah, I know). Yes, it was me, because I wasn't ovulating but it's not necessarily your fault! It could just be that the sperm is not fertilizing your eggs. Or, it could be something that will be remedied with you. Have you gone through the complete workup yet? OR, it could be unexplained. Really, we shouldn't put the blame on anyone. It just is what it is...the next step is working to get a plan together to make a baby. I know you feel badly right now, and it's okay to feel that way, but I just want to give you reassurance. And you can vent to us anytime in this thread.

skb - I'm sorry to hear about the HSG. Take care of yourself.

[Nigellas]

skb- Wow, I'm sorry about the results. Ugh. I wish I had some sort of knowledge on this to help you. As for whether to TTC, only you know what is best for your family. Personally, given the chance of MC I'd wait - But I've had 4 MCs so that might be clouding my judgment on this one.

WG - I think your feelings are completely normal and valid. I know I went through them (still do sometimes!) Infertility is such a complex, emotional thing- It often ties into how we see ourselves as wives, or even women in general. It's hard realizing that there is *something* wrong with your body - Because really, where you do separate yourself from your body? It's tough. Vent away. We are here for you.

[marteneym]

Stopping by to give {{{{HUGS}}}} to skb and WG. SO sorry you are both having such a hard time.

I am 7dpo. Nothing much going on so I havent been here much. I will be testing on Saturday. Timing was perfect. DH and I both really want this to be our month. We know though that due to our male factor there is a good chnace it won't be. We will be moving on to IUI in the next 1-2 cycles. We have an information/consent appt tomorrow.

I will come back with my test results Monday.

[bunky]

I haven't posted in quite awhile but I have been lurking now and then. I am 16DPO and just waiting for AF (I had a negative beta on Monday so I know this cycle is a bust).

skb - When I read your post I started tearing up. I know exactly how you feel. I had an HSG in June that showed a bicornuate or septate uterus AND I had a blocked tube. It turns out I had a septate uterus and had surgery to remove it a month later. I am now septum free and both tubes are open. I posted the whole long story here if you want the details:
http://www.constantchatter.com/showthread.php?t=7203
Also, feel free to email me (bunkyonwc@yahoo.com) if you want to chat privately or have any more questions. My best piece of advice would be to see an RE who has experience with uterine anomalies. There is a lot of misinformation out there and most OB/GYNS just don't know enough about the anomalies. Seeing an RE after my HSG was the best decision I have made so far in my TTC journey.
(((Hugs)))

[wonderousglance]

Thank you to everyone for all the kind words. :)

[thedoorchick]

wonderousglance, those feelings are totally understandable. Lots of women struggle with the same thing. Hope that your DH is reassuring to you; of course he married you for a lot of reasons having nothing to do with fertility.

skyb, sorry about the HSG; I don't have any advice on that particular situation but fortunately it looks like some others do.

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Can the time crawl any slower? I'm so anxious to start our next cycle. I'm not officially charting but judging from CM I should O by the weekend, I'd guess, so things are on schedule to return to the RE around Dec. 1.

And I'm soooo ready to be home. Six weeks out of the country, away from friends & family is more than enough! Friday morning I'm outta here! :D

[knoelani]

skb~ I'm sorry about the hsg results, I wish I had some advice, but I don't. I just wanted to let you know that I was thinking of you.

woundersousglance I totaly understand how you're feeling, but please try to be kind to yourself. I have run the gauntlet of emotions on my relationship w/ sh and how it's all my fault. I can't make you feel better, but please know that you're not alone and that we are thinking of you. My dh was smart enough to say that he didn't marry me for my uterous or for my ability to have kids, he married me for me. Now whether I belive that all the time is a different story, but it did make me feel better. Take care of yourself dear, it is not you're fault, this is not something you can control, and you don't know the full story yet, there could be nothing explained or many reasons, there's no telling. Be good to yourself.

emily Welcome back, I hope you're trip went well and have a safe trip home.

Nothin' doing here. I'm sitting in a Holiday Inn lobby bar, trying to relax after a horrible day that ended with me locking the keys of my rental in the trunck. Luckily two wonderful gentleman rescued me with a coat hanger. I leave early tomorrow morning for virginia beach, the second leg of my trip, and then I'm home saturday.

[MrsSmith]

Hey ladies,

I have to read and catch up to how everyone is doing. Nothing new with me. I forgot to temp regularly. So, once again, no reliable chart. I'll remember one day...LOL...So, I'm not sure if I Oed or anything. I've been in a good mood lately regarding treatment and the future. We're taking a med break in December, but we're going back full force in January. My friend is having her baby shower on Saturday. I'm not going. I'm in a good mood right now and I just don't know what kind of state of mind that'll put me in. So, I got her a really nice present and I'll go to lunch with her later on in the week.

I'm in a really silly mood today and I 'think' I got into a forum fight over in chit chat. Hilarious...the things that happen on message boards...

anyway, I'm going to do some reading and catch up with everyone. I hope that all is well and that everyone is encouraged for a great next cycle. 2006 is going to be a great year for so many of us. I just know it. I'm really encouraged and hope that you are too :)

[skb]

Thank you Bunky and everyone else.

Following my HSG this morning I spent the rest of the morning in tears, went to work this afternoon completely distracted and drove all the way home in tears. The flood hasn't stopped yet!

Going into the HSG today initally felt like a technicality before moving onward to the dx of unexplained infertilty and my first round of clomid. I was calm, probably in denial and just trying to be educated about my reproductive health. In other words, dh and I began TTC in a "see what happens" mind frame and when *it* wasn't happening I became more proactive.....but all the while attempting to keep my "see what happens" mind frame. To be differentailly diagnosed bicornuate or septate has completely blind-sided me.

We will be TTA until there is a difinitive diagnosis and management plan. I'm busy researching what I can before I see my Ob in 1 week (the same day my SIL arrives 27 weeks pregnant with twins). I like to be informed but honestly.........

Bunky I checked the site you mentioned and read your story. I really appreciate your input and hope to keep in touch.

[tigerest]

SKB - {{{HUGS}}} SO sorry to hear about your HSG results. Its good to know that there is a chance they can fix it. Is there a chance that maybe you have been having implantation failure because of this? I hope it turns out to be something easy to fix. Good luck, I am so sorry you got bad news.

woundersousglance - I was exactly the same way with DH's SA. When it came back I was more sad than happy. What you feel is totally normal. Its hard to know that the problems lies on our side. I still feel the way you are feeling from time to time. Don't be too hard on yourself. {{{HUGS}}

Thanks for everyones encouragement when I posted a while back. I will stop by from time to time.

[julesp313]

Skb - sorry to hear about the HSG results... I was the same way when I went for mine - it was just a technicality - and although mine came back normal, now I'm left wondering what the hell is wrong? Good or bad news, we're still frustrated and upset...

Wondrous - I was actually glad that my husband's SA was normal because I knew if there was anything "wrong", better to be me than him as I think I can handle it better. Though we have nothing medically wrong and we're still not pg after a year - guess there's something going on that nobody knows about! But please don't place blame - there's no fault here, it's just life messing with us (evil bugger).

Me - CD14, waiting to O... signs are good and we're doing the business (tmi, maybe, but if I want daily BD'ing, mornings are key... so I'm waking up half an hour early just to get laid... the things we do in our quest for babies!). We're still working on the unassisted side of things until after my busy season is over - I figure if it's going to happen, great, and if not, I have a plan. I need a plan - I'm too Type A to not have one.

And now, I need caffiene so I'm off to Starbucks Evil Corporate Empire. :)

[UTChick]

Hi ladies. I think I would like to join you. I haven't finished reading the entire thread, but from what I have read, I think this would be a good place for me. I have been a part of the TTC w/Charting since CC started up and while I love being with that group of ladies, it is getting harder and harder to see women come and go (w/ BFPs) and I am still hanging out there. I just started a fresh cycle and am beginning the full spectrum of testing tomorrow.

Here is my info:


UTChick
Me: 28
DH: 34
Married 9/20/03
Off BCP since 12/04
SWH until 5/05
TTC w/ Charting since 5/05
Long and irregular cycles
Testing process beginning this cycle

[jennylou]

utchick - welcome, we were wedding date twins! Hope your stay is short and sweet. :)

[Nigellas]

Welcome Kathy. :)

[MrsSmith]

skb - I'm sorry that you are feeling sad. We all wish there was something to make this journey easier. Hopefully, you are feeling better now.

[Alioop12345]

sorry I've been such a bad journal buddy...guess I've been feeling a bit down and frustrated myself. CD2 for me...started Estradial. Should start Gonal F monday after my appt.

Good luck to all testers, congrats to all who have gotten BFPs and hugs to those who didn't

[graciebella]

I'm curious about a couple of things. I see some people take clomid days 3-7, and some take it 5-10. What's the reasoning?

Also why do some docs order prog. test on cd3 and some do cd21?

[jennylou]

bella - I take it days 5-9, which is supposed to make eggs. CD 3-7 is supposed to increase egg quality. As for progesterone, I guess they might pull at CD 3 to get a baseline on your hormones. As for CD 21, that test only works if you are a CD 14 ovulator. Otherwise, you should have it pulled 7 dpo. For example, last cycle I O'd on CD 21...it would have showed nothing for me and with good reason!

[jennylou]

Good Saturday morning to you. :) We seemed to have been quiet yesterday, so I wanted to bump up this thread. There's a list of folks on the front page in one of the first few posts of people that are on our roster that have not checked in at all this thread. So, if you're out there and lurking, please post and say hello!

As for me, not too much going on here, just getting ready to go work on an apartment that we are rehabbing. Oh, the joys.:rolleyes:

[julesp313]

As I am sucessfully procrastinating against studying for the CPA exam section I'm sitting on Monday, just thought I'd pop in and say I'm in the 2ww. Now I'm going to pretend that I'm NOT in the 2ww so that I don't obsess over every twinge/pain/cramp/sore boob that I know I get every month anyway. So, wish me luck with that... :)

[DallasLady]

I have been a part of the TTC w/Charting since CC started up and while I love being with that group of ladies, it is getting harder and harder to see women come and go (w/ BFPs) and I am still hanging out there.

I totally know what you mean. It's like a revolving door in that thread. It gets hard to see women who can barely figure out how to chart continuously get pregnant after 1 or 2 tries when you feel like you have been there forever (I started on the WC version back in January). Welcome to our group!

~~~~

As for me, I am back to CD1. IUI #1 was a bust. We are only doing 3 or 4 IUIs and that's it. We have decided not to do IVF at all. If I am not pg my Spring, we are done with TTC altogether.

This has been the hardest BFN for me DH's sperm count was actually well within normal range (100 mil/mL!!) so I felt confident. My lining was good, I only had one follicle though. So, we are upping the clomid to 100mg and trying again. I am praying he has a good sperm sample again. He is afraid of getting multiple follicles and having twins :rolleyes:

Threadmistress, can you please update my stats?

DallasLady
Me - Giovanna (25)
DH - Tony (39)
Married - 9/01
Charting - 11/2002
TTC - 1/2005
Issues - Low sperm count (14mil/ml) and low morphology (6%
Kruger)
First IUI cycle 11/2005- BFN

[UTChick]

Jenny~We are wedding date twins, aren't we? :) Thank you and Nigellas for the warm welcome.

julesp313~I have a feeling you and I are a lot alike. I, too, would rather the problem (if there is one) be with me rather than my DH. I think in this situation I would be more proactive than him. He is really worried about the SA he will have done after Thanksgiving and I think he would go through an "I give up" phase whereas I would have more of a "let's fix this" approach. Make sense? And I always have a plan! ;)


Well, I went in for CD3 bloodwork yesterday and will get the results back by Monday afternoon. I am also scheduled for an HSG on Monday morning. With the holiday season upon us and my crazy cycle lengths, my doctor did not want to wait for my bloodwork results before doing the HSG because he was afraid we would have to wait until the next cycle to do it because of Thanksgiving. DH is probably going in next week for his SA because the hospital where he will have it done is booked up until after Thanksgiving.

[UTChick]

DallasLady~That is exactly how I am feeling. I love the ladies over there, but the October record-breaking BFP fest did me in. I still post a little bit there, but it is hard. Thanks for the welcome. I am sorry the IUI didn't work this time. My DH is worried about twins also, but I will take what I can get at this point! :)

[karlatta]

I'm just lurking along and thought I'd share some news, since some of you may be interested.

I'm not TTC anymore, but I had some uterine polyps that my RE wanted to check out, so I had a laproscopy done yesterday. Turns out that I have several very good reasons that I'm not PG!

I had Stage III endometriosis. Strange, because I had no symptoms of endometriosis. He removed it, and I get to talk to him in two weeks to figure out how we will treat it now.

He also found that my left ovary was adhered to my uterus. He separated them, but the way they were attached, it would have been very difficult for an egg to be positioned right to get into the fallopian tube.

AND, he found that my right tube is all kinds of jacked up. In a way that can't be fixed. It isn't blocked, but it is twisted into a knot-like shape, so eggs can't travel through it.

Interesting, eh? All this time we thought we were only fighting PCOS. There was no reason to suspect anything else. No signs of endometriosis, my sonohysterogram (I can't have an HSG) showed that I have open tubes, and ultrasounds never showed that my uterus and ovary were adhered to one another.

[Suzlywoozly]

He also found that my left ovary was adhered to my uterus. He separated them, but the way they were attached, it would have been very difficult for an egg to be positioned right to get into the fallopian tube.


Isn't that crazy? That is the same problem I had back in January when I had that major surgery! It was the least thing I had expected for them to find. Did the Dr. say if it was the endo that caused the ovary to adhere? I am glad to hear that you got some answers after all this time even though it is not under the best circumstances! Do they think you should start TTC again since they have a firm diagnosis?

[knoelani]

Welcome UT Chick~ Love you're name btw :D Hook Em' Good luck with all the testing!

Dallaslady Sorry IUI 1 was a bust, hopefully this one will be better!

KarlaThat's insane. I can't believe that all this time there were so many other factors at work and that you're just now finding out about them.

Oh wonderful Jenny will you update my stats please to:

IUI #2: Failed
10-05 to end of year: Break from all things medical

[karlatta]

Do they think you should start TTC again since they have a firm diagnosis?

Nope. We already closed that chapter. Plus, the diagnosis makes it even less likely that we'll get pregnant. Especially since we're not interested in IVF.

[kemorr]

Karla, your story sounds a little like mine. I just had a lap about 1 month ago and they found stage 2-3 endo and my left ovary was adhered to my body wall. I too had a completely normal HSG and have had several thousand (well, it feels like that many!) completely normal vaginal ultrasounds. One of the main reasons I had a lap is that my sister and 2 aunts have really bad endo. I have never in my life had a symptom of endo (other than month after month of BFNs). I have read several studies that women with endo have significantly higher preg rates after it has been treated at lap, so you never know, maybe the surgery will be successful for us both, even though I know you've moved beyond TTC.

Dallas - sorry your first IUI was a bust. I know that feeling. I was so convinced for my first IUI that it was gonna work, and here I am on my 5th! I think I'm right in thinking that you haven't had a lot of work-up done on yourself and that your RE is attributing it mainly to male factor? I don't want to sound pushy or know it all, but if you two are only going to pursue a limited # of treatment cycles and since your DHs sperm was normal last cycle, wouldn't it be worthwhile having some work-up done on you? I would just hate for you guys to "waste" your IUIs and then find out you have blocked tubes or something, because if that's the case, the IUI isn't in a million years going to work. Anyhow, I'll butt out now. Just food for thought.

[karlatta]

kemorr - Yes, I suppose that's true. But since I don't ovulate without meds AND I only have one functioning tube, I'm pretty sure that the surgery isn't going to be the magic pill that makes everything start working.

[Elenna]

Elenna
Me: 31
DH: 33
Married: 9/11/04
Off BCP since 7/04
TTC w/ Charting since 11/04, SWH for 4-5 months in the middle of that time
Chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/4b883
No known issues, yet. Family history of progesterone problems.

DH and I have been TTC now for a year. DH is going to call his doctor this week to see about having an SA done. I'm going to call my OB/BYN to see about getting tested myself.

I'm going to call my insurance on Monday to see what they will cover of the testing. We're going to get tested no matter if insurance covers it or not.

DH and I talked today, after I had a self pity meltdown. We're going to have children no matter what. We'll go as far as a few rounds of IUI. We're not sure if we'll go as far as IVF, yet. We'll talk about that if we reach that point. Then we'll adopt if all that fails.

It is very hard to do this. No one in my family has trouble getting pregnant. My sister has trouble staying pregnant, not getting pregnant. My cousin has gotten pregnant the only two times she's ever had unprotected sex.

[jennylou]

Stats are updated to here. :)

Welcome Elenna!

[thedoorchick]

julesp, good luck on the CPA! I definitely feel your pain; it will be so worth it when you are done.

Dallas_Lady, I'm so sorry your IUI was a bust. I think that's one of the hardest things to take; when everything looks positive and then it still doesn't work.

[julesp313]

DallasLady - sorry to hear about the IUI - that's my biggest fear, that we'll move onto IUI and DH will expect it to be the miracle and bam! And I know the odds are that won't happen but he seems to think it will...

UTChick - my take on it is, men feel like less of a man if their SA comes back less than normal, but women tend to be more philosophical and figure, we have a problem - how do we fix it? I know that's me and DH - sounds like it's you guys too! Good luck with the HSG!

Karla - I can't believe you have all those things going on and nobody figured them out before! I guess I assume that endo and other issues would always produce symptoms, but of course it doesn't. I have a friend with PCOS who has no indication except she doesn't ovulate regularly - a bit of a shock getting that diagnosis when you had no indications!

DoorChick - I keep hearing that - it'll be worth it once it's over - but I am totally lacking the motivation to actually study for the thing! Plus busy season is looming and you know how much free time you get during those few months... once this section is done, I won't be tackling it again until after April, to try and maintain a small slice of my sanity. :rolleyes:

Me - 3DPO, just cruising along... trying to obsess about anything OTHER than my poor ol' body. :)

[UTChick]

julesp~In response to what you said to DallasLady, my DH sees IUI as a cure-all. He just wants to skip directly to that. It is hard to make him see that it isn't as easy as one would think. I wish it were...

My thoughts exactly on the men/women differences. Plus, I have known for years that I have irregular ovulation and that getting pg would not be easy, so I have been prepared for this to some extent. He never had any reason to believe he might have issues. I honestly think he is putting his SA off because he is afraid of the results.

Elenna~I understand. I thought I was the only woman in my family to have trouble getting pg. My aunt (who doesn't always think before she speaks) was going on and on last time they were in town about how she got pg the first month she was off BCP with both of her kids. But...my mom reminded me that my great-grandmother tried and tried to have more kids after my grandmother but never got pg again. And my mom's aunt tried for many years and never got pg and ended up adopting their son. So I guess I am not the only one.

[Alioop12345]

threadmistress- when you get a chance, will you change my stats to :TTC #2 since 5/05
On: Estradiol, Gonal F, HcG and Progesterone supps


Thanks!

[Asha]

i want to join too. i am a little nervous about posting here bc this will make it official to all that we want a baby. anyways, we have been ttc conceive for almost a year and a half with no luck. we have taken a few breaks in that time to work on marriage issues, but now we are ttc.

here's my info

rebekah
both of us are 28
married 8/16/03
off bcp 01/04
first started ttc 7/04
tests done - dh had semen analysis and everything is ok on his end, we are going to wait one or two more cycles before i go for testing

i am very nervous that something is wrong with me. my aunt was never able to have children bc she was infertile due a severe reaction to bcp's. my mother had ovarian cysts in her late 20's, and when she tried to have children after that she was not able to. also, i have been having changes in my period, cramping, and other gastrointestinal issues that worry me, but don't seem to worry my gyn, and she doesn't think they are causing my problems.

i think my dh would be heart broken if we couldn't have biological childrne. i would be disappointed too, but i am equally open to the idea of adopting a child. i have always wanted to adopt children since i was a teenager.

[MrsSmith]

Welcome to all of the new ladies. I really hope that you are only here for a short time!

Karla - I can't believe that you are just finding out about this. It is amazing that they could have completely missed something like that. How are things going so far with the adoption process? Do you have a plan of action yet?

[karlatta]

MrsSmith - When you look at my medical history, it's very understandable that they totally missed everything. The RE was actually going in to look at my intra-uterine polyps when he found all of this. It was a surprise to everyone involved!

We are in the process of selecting an agency right now. We think we have one picked, and we have a meeting with them next month. Right now we're trying to concentrate on getting our house ready to sell. We need to move to a cheaper, smaller house so that we can afford a baby!

[MrsSmith]

That just amazes me, Karla. I'm glad that you have the information now and have some idea of what has been going on all this time. That must bring some relief to you.

Good luck at the agency meeting next month! Hopefully they have some great info to get you started on your path to motherhood! :D

[Lucy Van Pelt]

I know I haven't been around much, but here's an update...

On Friday, the 11th, I got a BFP. I was so jazzed! Saturday at 3am, the migraines started again and they were horrid. I did the blood work on Monday and had very low numbers - beta was only like 40 or something. DH and I are crushed. I did more bloodwork on Wednesday and I only increased to 55 - not good. The nurse told me I am going to miscarry. So now, here I sit just waiting to lose this pregnancy. This sucks.

[tigerest]

Lucy - I am so sorry. {{HUGS}}

Karla - Wow, I can't believe what you found out. Good luck with your house stuff and adoption!!! Hope everything from here on works out smoothly!

Welcome Elenna and Rebekah, hope your stay with us is short.

[Alioop12345]

Lucy- I am so sorry...remember though... not everything always turns out they way they predict...hope you are doing ok

[thedoorchick]

Lucy, I'm so sorry. :(

julesp, I understand totally - I took the exam in May, so busy season was wearing me out and i still had to make time to study (That was back in the day when they only gave the exam twice a year). Good luck to you and study hard.

Welcome to Elenna and Rebekah!

I am home - YAY! Didn't bother to chart while I was gone but judging from CM I figure I O'd sometime last week, so bring on AF so I can get moving with another cycle!

One of my friends at church had her IVF transfer last Monday, so maybe I can focus on thinking about her so I'll forget to count the days till my next cycle starts.

[Elenna]

Thanks for the welcome.

I called my doctor. His office doesn't do infertility testing. His nurse recommended another doctor who is an infertility specialist. So, I called that doctor. I now have an appointment for March 7th! That was the earliest I could get in. Maybe we'll get lucky and get a BFP before then.

My insurance covers diagnostic testing. It doesn't cover treatments, except if a disease is found to be the reason for infertility.

[katmg]

Katmg
Me: 26
DH: 30
Married: 11/08/03
Off BCP since: 5/04
Charting since: 8/04
TTC w/ Charting since: 1/05 (took a break when I started a new job) 05/05
Chart:
Issues: Testing this cycle. If DH's SA comes back okay, I start 50mg Clomid next cycle.

I'm pretty much in the same boat with UTChick. I hope it's okay if I post in here - it hasn't been quite a year of TTC. But, I think since we're looking at starting meds now that the thread might have a bit more support than the TTC w/charting. It's getting hard to keep up with all the new people in there.

I recently had a conversation with my mom about TTC (I finally admitted that we'd been trying) and she told me she had to go on clomid to conceive me. She was having a weak O, which I suspect is my problem as well. Also learned that my grandma had 3 miscarriages before having 3 healthy pregnancies. Her doctor told her that she was 'too hot' and should try to get pregnant in the winter. :confused: Not sure about that, but she was able to eventually keep her pregnancies.

[jennylou]

kat - welcome, not to worry about the year thing, I think our first post says we welcome people after six months of ttc or if they know they have an issue (IE PCOS, Endo, etc). I'm sorry that you have to be here, but I do welcome you to the group. I'll post your stats shortly.

Elenna - MARCH!?! Hmmm, maybe you can call some other docs and see if you can get in before then? Even just an OB/GYN who will run some blood tests and perhaps an HSG for you? Wow, sometimes it boggles my mind how long it takes people to get an RE appt. I don't know if it's just my insurance but mine has a clause that states anyone who is in network has to provide an appointment within a month - thank goodness for that!

Lucy - Sorry to hear your news. :(

Jules - How is the studying coming along?

emily - official welcome home to you! Enjoy the time with your hubby.

rebekah - welcome to the group. Hope your stay is short here!

MrsSmith - how goes it your way?

karla -wow! what a diagnoses! Good luck selling the house.


I hope everyone is doing well. As Thanksgiving approaches I can't say that I am thankful except for the fact that I have a short week!

[Alioop12345]

I started Gonal F today...had a question about it.... Is anyone else on this?

[marteneym]

Welcome katmg, Reb, and elenna!

Lucy So sorry to hear your news. {{{HUGS}}}

Karla WOW! At least you know why now. I am so glad that you have such a peace in your adoption decision. Good luck with the house.

CD1 for me. Bfn's this weekend followed by dropping temps. I am really disappointed. The good thing is I won't be due at my brothers wedding in August.
We are moving on to IUI this next cycle. I am just hoping I O before vacation so we are home. I will be taking 100mg of chlomid again. Praying so hard that this works.

[UTChick]

Lucy~I am really sorry.

Elenna~Wow. March seems like a long time to wait. Is that for an OB/Gyn or RE? Surely someone could get you in sooner.

katmg~ I have been posting in TTC/ Charting more in the last week probably because noone is really testing, but with all those people testing really soon, I think it might be more than I can handle. It is just too much.

Alioop~I don't know anything about it. Sorry, I am not much help!

marteneym~I am sorry about the BFNs and AF. Hopefully the IUI will work on the first try.


I had my HSG done today and the doctor (not my regular one) said she thought everything looked pretty good. It didn't hurt much at all. I was expecting it to be a lot worse based on others' experiences. The Dr. said sometimes if there is a blockage it will be more painful. They are sending everything over to my doctor for review, so I guess I will have to wait to hear the official word from him. My nurse said that they might have my blood work results back this afternoon but I didn't hear from her. I may call tomorrow afternoon if I haven't heard anything.

[MrsSmith]

MrsSmith - how goes it your way?

I'm still not pregnant...LOL...At least I can laugh about it. I've been feeling pretty good, but my cycles are all wacky again. So, I might have to take the provera to get it going again. I'm hoping that it just takes a few more weeks, but we'll see...I don't know why, but I was really optimistic that I'd have a pregnancy announcement to make at the holiday get togethers this year. So, I'm just a tad bit bummed that it's not going to happen. Well, I guess I still have time for Christmas ;)

I tried to use an OPK and I totally screwed up...LOL...I don't know what the result was because I forgot I took it and it was over an hour when I came back to read the result...LOL...I had a lot on my mind.

Lucy - I am so sorry. I hope that you and your hubby are able to get through this.

martenymn - sorry to hear this wasn't your cycle. I hope the IUI brings a baby your way!

[katmg]

Jenny - Thanks for getting me added and for the warm welcome! I went back and read the first page after posting my stats...guess I did things a little backwards. :o

marteneym - I'm sorry about AF. Hope that IUI brings you that BFP!

UT - I like the TTC thread, it's just so much of a rollercoaster for me come testing time.

MrsSmith - I too have had grand plans of telling our parents at Thanksgiving or Christmas that we're pg. :rolleyes: Hopefully there will be some good news come Christmas.

[gator97]

Hi all. Just checking in. I was one who went AWOL. I have been lurking faithfully just trying to take a step back this month (ha, ha). I'm failing at two things: maintaining a positive attitude and thinking of anything other than getting pregnant. I try so hard to focus on anything else and I just can't. I'm extremely frustrated. So, I guess I haven't wanted to bring anyone down with my frustration.

I'm 12DPO and my temp plummeted today. I was so hopeful for this cycle and that just got dashed . This sucks.

okay, vent over.

[jennylou]

Gator - I'm sorry about the temp drop. It's okay to vent here. Thanks for popping in to let us know how you are.

kat - no problem. :)

MrsSmith - I'm right there with you on the holidays...only I wanted to announce at Thanksgiving...but that was only going to be if I got pregnant in July or August (maybe even September). Now, I know we won't be announcing squat this year. Bummer.

utchick - sounds good about the HSG. :)

marty - I'm sorry the hag showed up at your house. :(

alioop - sorry, no gonal stories from me.

It's Tuesday, but it's really like Thursday, since we only have one more day to go this week.

[katmg]

gator - I'm sorry about the temp drop. :(

Question about SA. If DH is sick right now, will that affect the results of a SA? He has a cold/flu/sinus infection (we're not sure, he goes to the doctor this p.m.). Should he hold off on doing the SA until he's well?

Also...does Clomid expire quickly? It's looking like we won't be ready to start Clomid next cycle due to DH being sick and then being gone around my O time. :( I'm wondering if I can fill the prescription for this month now anyway? My office's insurance is switching Jan. 1 and my current insurance pays for infertility drugs but the new one doesn't. I was hoping to get 2 months worth of Clomid before the end of the year. So I guess my question really is, if I buy Clomid now will it still be good in a month?

[jennylou]

kat - the clomid should be fine, it's in a pill form and I don't think would expire that quickly.

[marteneym]

Gator- Sorry about the temp drop. I am right here with you with dashed hopes. {{{HUGS}}}

Thanks to all of your AF support. I wasnt sure she was going to show yesterday. I was just soptting off and o. She came in all her glory this morning cramps and all. As much as I hate not being pg and having AF there is something nice about getting a fresh start at the beginning of a cycle.

[Elenna]

Elenna - MARCH!?! Hmmm, maybe you can call some other docs and see if you can get in before then? Even just an OB/GYN who will run some blood tests and perhaps an HSG for you? Wow, sometimes it boggles my mind how long it takes people to get an RE appt. I don't know if it's just my insurance but mine has a clause that states anyone who is in network has to provide an appointment within a month - thank goodness for that!


I wish I had your insurance. There are only 4 REs in network for my insurance in my county. I've put in a call to the other 3 (all in the same office), but haven't gotten a call back.

[ocgatita]

Hey ladies, sorry I haven't replied in awhile but I am reading along & checking in on everyone. I too, like gator97, have been fighting the urge to be negative. I have alot of stuff that I am going through right now on top of the not getting pregnant issue. Ok my pity party is over! I will attempt to do replies, but please forgive my if I skip anyone......

Lucy - I am so sorry for your loss :( I pray that you and your husband find strength to get through this very difficult time. I cannot imagine the pain you are going thru.

Marteneym - Sorry about AF. Look at you being all positive about starting a fresh cycle! Can you pass some of that positive stuff my way please? ;)

Jennylou - How's your cycle going? I hear ya on not being able to announce at Thanksgiving. I will be 10dpo on Thursday & even if I am pregnant this cycle, I seriously DOUBT I will be getting a BFP until well after 10dpo.

gator97 - sorry about the temp dropping :( I just spent an hour scrutinizing my chart and comparing it to the pregnancy chart in the chart galley of Fertility Friend. I wish I could say something to help you feel better, but all I can offer is THIS SUCKS!

katmg - sorry, don't know the answers to any of your questions :( Hope there is a BFP for you to announce at Xmas to your family!

MrsSmith - Don't lose hope, maybe you can still make that pregnancy announcement at Xmas...but I definately know what you mean about wanting to announce during the holidays.....this is my second year wanting to announce.

UTChick - glad the HSG went well. I love hearing the good stories like yours because it make me not want to freak out, LOL! Here's hoping that the HSG brings you a BFP!

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Just in case I am not in again until after thanksgiving, just want to wish all you wonderful ladies a very HAPPY THANKSGIVING..... I know I am thankful for having a group of people that understand how frusterating it is to not be knocked up when others get knocked up w/o effort.

Judy

[julesp313]

Jenny - can you please update my stats? DH is now 39 (though still acting 14) and you can pre-emptively put me to 34 if you like. Also, can you add "IUI planned in April 06"? Thanks so much!

Me - 5DPO, boobs are KILLING me but they often do between O and AF so am chalking it up to normal stuff. Not obessessing... I swear, really... truly not... (and yeah, y'all can roll your eyes at my lies... ) :)

[wonderousglance]

CD 30 for me. I am almost + that AF will be here by Thursday. If not I will test. I just hate being disappointed. :(

Anyway, I have to wait until CD 4 to have my TV US. Then we'll be able to proceed with treatment.

Patiently waiting until then.... :)

[marteneym]

Thanks OCG! I am trying to stay positive. It is so hard though. Good luck testing.

Please update my stats to: me age 23(guess I forgot I had a bday last month), 11/05 Chlomid 100mg
Thanks!

[wonderousglance]

I gave in & tested today. BFN. :(

At least Ill be able to have the US this cycle.

[jennylou]

I wish I had your insurance. There are only 4 REs in network for my insurance in my county. I've put in a call to the other 3 (all in the same office), but haven't gotten a call back.

lol, that's the only thing my insurance is good for. They only cover appointments. No IUI, IVF and certainly not any drugs!

marty - I agree, I always feel hopeful at the beginning of a cycle. So much better than the dispair at the end of the cycle.

wonderousglance - sorry about the BFN.

I will get to updates shortly!

[UTChick]

wonderousglance~I am sorry about the BFN.

marteneym~Happy Belated Birthday!

julesp~And Happy Almost Birthday to you!

ocgatita~You are so right. We are really lucky to have each other - a group of ladies who understand what this is like.


I got a call this afternoon from my doctor's office. No blood work results yet, but HSG is normal. It would be really nice if I could hear something before Thanksgiving, just so I won't be left wondering all week. My nurse promised me she would call as soon as they get the results back.

[MrsSmith]

Maybe next year I'll have a holiday announcement. It'd be even cooler if I had a baby to bring with me :D So, I'm staying optimistic for that. I really feel good about 2006. I'm expecting good things to happen.

I made an appt with a new RE. I've kinda been lax on any treatment since I know I'm switching to a new office. I'm not going until January. There were appts available, but I'm trying to get the new insurance year started and flex spending for the drugs. I'm all out for this year.

Happy thanksgiving everyone!

[Lucy Van Pelt]

Thanks everyone for your well wishes. I had more blood work done and my hcg was only 138. They had me come in and the doctor did an ultrasound just to see if he could find anything. My lining and everything looked good, but he couldn't find an embryo and even if he did, the numbers are just too low. He gave me the option of waiting to miscarry naturally or take misoprostol to induce. With DH and I traveling up to my parents' house for Thanksgiving and our Disney World vacation in just 10 days, I opted to induce. I have 4 pills I get to shove up my coochie and then wait for the fun to begin. I'm so not looking forward to the next 24 hours. Luckily I was able to take the day off work.

Hope everyone has a wonderful holiday weekend! :)

[UTChick]

Lucy~I am really sorry. If I were in your shoes, I would have done the same thing. I hope today goes smoothly for you. Travel safely. You are in my thoughts.

[suzfuzsunflower]

Hugs to everyone with BFN, and to Lucy.

I have been lurking faithfully, but haven't posted in a while. Like a lot of you, I too am disappointed that I don't have any news to share over Thanksgiving. I just started 50 mg of clomid, so maybe I'll have some good news for Christmas. If not me, then I hope some of you all have good news for us come Christmas time. :)

Please update: 11/05 - 50mg clomid
With insurance, the clomid was only $12. Not bad at all. I have taken two days of medication, and so far so good. I feel completely normal. I hope that it works!

Have a wonderful Thanksgiving everyone!
:)

[marteneym]

Jenny- I always feel hopeful at the beginning of a cycle. So much better than the dispair at the end of the cycle. Sometimes this is easier said than done but its always best to look forward.

UTchick- Thanks for the bday wishes.

I start chlomid 100mg again tomorrow. I am stopping costco tonight. I am sure it will be a madhouse the day before thanksgiving. :eek:

Hope you all have a HAPPY THANKSGIVING! I will be gone til Tuesday.

[knoelani]

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

To our new members, welcome, I hope you find this to be a supportive place to be.

Lucy~ I'm so sorry that you're having to go through this and during the holidays. Please take care of yourself and have a safe trip.

[skb]

Sorry girls. I've been busy reading up on bicornuate and septate uterine abnormalities. I'll have to catch up on this thread soon. Tomorrow I have a ObGyn appointment to follow up on my HSG that was performed last week. My doc had mentioned something about a laprascopy/hysterscopy to diffinitively diagnosis which unterine abnormality I have. Tomorrow is the day to discuss the options. I'm really hoping for some sort of good news!!! As you may recall, I was thinking this HSG would be "normal" and I would be beginning clomid...conceive a baby and have the happy ending. I'm still really hoping for the happy ending and after this past week a little good news of some sort would be nice to hang onto. Bunky if you're out there...cross you fingers please!!!

HSG (Nov 2005): differential bicornaute or septate uterus

[gator97]

Thanks for all of your support. I do appreciate it. I had a mini-breakdown at work today when a co-worker was talking about her daughter-in-laws eighteen year old sister having her baby today (daughter in law is also knocked up with an oops baby). Luckily, it was a short breakdown.

Lucy, I am so sorry. There are no words.

Have a Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

[Nigellas]

Oh, gosh Lucy - I'm so very sorry. I'll be thinking of you.

[la_bride_2004]

Just wanted to pop in and say HAPPY THANKSGIVING to all the SAI ladies!!!



(I'm still on hold until next Spring, so I'm back to lurking).

[jennylou]

Updates to here are done.

[jennylou]

Because I've been having to shuffle names around because we are only allowed so many characters in each post and I was nearing the end of the allowable amount, I have set up a new thread with a bit more room in it. You can find us here: http://www.constantchatter.com/showthread.php?t=11304