Greek Islands?

[bookworm]

Has anyone been to the Greek Islands? If so, how did you go--on your own, via a tour, on a cruise, etc.? Would you recommend it?

A friend and I are considering going next summer, since we've been talking about it for years. I checked out Fodor's, and it suggests that for nice weather but fewer crowds, we should look at early June or early September.

The only cruise I saw that stops at islands we want to see (Mykonos, Santorini, Crete) was Windstar, which is out of our price range. So we're thinking of either planning on our own, or doing a "tour" (but not escorted) with Trafalgar or someone like that. Also, this friend and I are not a couple, so we thought a cruise might be too romantic ;).

Anyway, I'd love to hear thoughts/experiences.

Thanks!

[tlew12778]

I've been to Greece three times. The first trip was to Athens, then Paros and Santorini. The second trip was to Athens (but only as a stopover) then to Mykonos and Santorini. The only reason we returned to Santorini was bc we were meeting some friends there. The third trip was to Athens (again as a stopover) then to Zakynthos.

If this is your first trip to Greece then I recommend going firs to Athens for a day or 2, then to the Cyclades. These are the islands you see in all the pictures with white houses and blue domed rooftops. Paros, Mykonos and Santorini are all part of the Cyclades. You can easily do Greece on your own without a tour or cruise. Greece is famous for island hopping and things are very often booked last minute, right when you get there. You can fly into Athens then from there either go to the port (Piraeus) and get on a ferry to whatever island you want to go to or you can catch a small plane to one of the islands. The ferries are cheap -- like 30 euro depending on where you want to go -- as are the planes. We paid 85 euro to fly from Mykonos to Athens 2 years ago (and we literally booked the flight 2 days before leaving Mykonos).

This is the website for the Greek National Tourism Organization (http://www.gnto.gr/?langID=2) where you should be able to find links to all the ferry companies and airlines.

Housing is very cheap when you get to the islands as well. The first time we went we didn't book anything before getting there but that's a little too bohemian for me now. I actually book everything I can before going. We just paid 50 euro per night for an apartment on Zakynthos. Expect to find similar prices on the other islands (not Mykonos... estimate twice that at least). Food is cheap as well. Two people can eat for 30 euro easily (twice that on Mykonos).

Our favorite island by far so far has been Mykonos. The great thing about the island is that you have totally secluded beaches in the north or the MTV on the beach type beaches in the south. There's something for everyone. The downside to the island is that it's totally expensive. Regardless we plan on going back even if it's just for a long weekend (that's easy for us from Milan). If you end up going to Mykonos there is this FANTASTIC hidden restaurant off Panormos Beach that a Greek friend actually led me onto. We'd go back just for that restaurant it was so good.

[bookworm]

Thanks for the information! I've done the backback-through-Europe thing, but it was more than 10 years ago and apparently I've gotten more travel cautious :rolleyes:.

I'll take a look at the tourism board. I'm guessing we'll take between 10 days and 2 weeks (including flights to/from the US), so will probably limit it to Athens/Mykonos/Santorini. I'm glad you think that's a good first trip---when I lived in London, everyone was going to Corfu, but I suspect that might be the British student version of spring break. Anyway, we don't necessarily need luxury (though I never object), but I am really over hostels.

[kindermom]

I went about 6 years ago using a few guidebooks as my tour guide (including Let's Go). I visited about 6 places in 14 days including a few islands. We went without making reservations any place. The only place that this was a problem was in Athens and it was almost a problem in this resort town on Crete. I had no problems finding rooms to let every place we went. I am not sure that at my current age I would be up for this up-in-the-air approach.

Getting around was pretty easy. Depending on your mode of travel, you can even find time tables online now. For example, it is easy to take a bus to visit towns on the Peloponese. The bus tables from Athens are now online!

I went in late May and early June and the weather was beautiful - mid to high 80s with a light breeze. The crowds were minimal most places we went.

Have a great time no matter what you do.

[WestieMomma]

Haven't been but I have read that if you plan to use a travel agent to help you book hotel rooms, transportation, etc it is better to use one actuially in Greece and not the states because you will save a lot of money that way.

[Hello Kitty]

I've been twice. Once with a bunch of GFs - we were in Athens for several days and then went to Mykonos. The second time DH and I went to Athens for two days and then to Crete for a week. Both times we loved it!

With my friends, we went from Rome to Athens and it took about 24 hours altogether, but it is very easy to figure out what train to take to what ferry (we left out of Brinsidi (sp)) and arrived and then took the bus over to the mainland. We went in mid June. Mykonos was very easy to get around - the buses run to get you to and from the beach.

With DH we flew from Rome to Athens and then flew to Crete late in May. Totally different experience, but we didn't have as much time to waste traveling. Crete was huge, and we were very glad to have a car to drive around, but really read up on driving there if you go.

Both times we had places to stay ahead of time. It was actually nice to know exactly where we would be and what amenities we'd have. I don't remember Mykonos being expensive - it seemed average, but I do remember Crete being cheap.

[tlew12778]

I am really over hostels. Oh me too! The second time I went to Greece I booked a last minute hotel for Athens. It was called the President, it's 4 star, and I paid $65 for one night. It was great. I actually booked directly from their website with some internet special. As for the islands, I just google or surf to find names of places. We don't necessarily need luxury either but the place has to be clean, it has to offer towels and bed linens (and change them at least 2x a week), I need our own bathroom, and it should be conveniently located to the Hora (main town on whatever island). I also like it to have a fridge bc I always bring a collapsable cooler with me for the beach and it's nice to be able to have a frozen bottle of water to stick in it every morning.

I don't know if you know how to drive a scooter but it's pretty common to rent one on the islands. It's a fast, convenient way to get around without having to rely on the bus. Incidentally, for the bus on the islands, you buy your ticket when you get on it and very often there are no clear stops. When you see the bus coming, you stick out your arm and it stops for you.

You could probably fit in another island in 2 weeks. Santorini is really small and you could see all the main beaches, the sunset at Oia/Fira, and take a trip to the volcano (not worth it IMO) all in 4 days. On Santorini we stay in Perissa. I would say 4 days is sufficient for Mykonos as well. There are more beaches, but you will either love the MTV on the beach beaches (Paradise, SuperParadise, Elia) or hate them so you will either stick to one side of the island or the other. We stayed in Psarou when we went but I think that when we go again, we will probably stay around Panormos as it will definitely be cheaper and it's more our style beach area.

The thing with Corfu is that it's part of the Ionion Island chain. It won't be easy getting from there to the Cyclades. Basically you'd have to fly back to Athens (or take the boat to Patras and then the bus to Athens) then fly out (or take the boat) to the Cyclades. You'd be wasting valuable time IMO. I was just on Zakynthos which is another Ionion Island and it was overrun by Brits. I mean it didn't seem like Greece at all. I have no idea if Corfu is like that but it's definitely something I would want to research before considering it as a destination.

[HEW?B]

Have any of you been to Greece. My FI and I are thinking of having a destination wedding there and are in the very first stages of planning. I am looking for info on things like how much did you overall trip cost and are there hotels that you would suggest? What Islands did you go to and what was you order? How did you get from island to island? What time of year did you go? How was the food? Really just any info that you have would be so very helpful. Thanks in advance!!

[tlew12778]

Here's an old thread on the Greek Islands (http://www.constantchatter.com/showthread.php?t=6022&highlight=greece).

how much did you overall trip cost and are there hotels that you would suggest?
I live in Italy so my travel costs are much less than from the US. We also stay in budget hotels when we are there, which is probably not something that interests you in HM... but the hotel prices range the gamut in Greece... from $50 a night to $1k a night... it depends on the island and the season. If I were on HM I would stay at the Mykonos Blu on Mykonos. It's our favorite island so far and the hotel looks awesome.

What Islands did you go to and what was you order?
First trip - Athens, Paros, Santorini
Second trip - Athens, Mykonos, Santorini (only bc we met up with some friends there)
Third Trip - Athens (just the airport this time), Zakynthos

How did you get from island to island?
You can take the boat or fly a small charter plane.

What time of year did you go?
We always go in August but that is high season. May-July is nice as is September and even October in a good year.

How was the food?
In general we like Greek food a lot, but like any touristy place, you can get some eh food or you can find some hidden taverna with GREAT food. Ask the locals where they eat and you should be all set.

[sbgirl]

We are also planning on a destination wedding in Santorini, Greece. Unfortunately, they just changed some legal requirements so in order to get married there, you have to be in Greece 8 days before and 1 business day after the ceremony for it to be legal. So this will push our ceremony to the last part of our trip and I'm not sure if I want to leave so soon afterwards. So another possibility is to do a civil one here and do a vow renewal package there. We'll see.

But there may different requirements on other islands so you may want to check them as well.

Right now, our itinerary is 3 nights in Athens, 3 nights in Naxos, and 4 nights in Santorini. I've heard great things about Santorini and Naxos. Right now we have a deposit down at Heliotopos (http://hotel.heliotopos.net). We've read great things about them. Be sure to check out the photo gallery and each pic has more pics behind it.

[HEW?B]

Hey there. I just wanted to let you know that I have also heard of the 8 day thing and in all my conversations with a travel agent, you really do not need to be there for 8 days if you buy one of the MANY wedding cordination plans that are out there. They will take care of all the paperwork that is required and then you will not have to get there so far in advance. E-mail me at heather@msjlaw and I will forward you the e-mail I got on the subject just this am. All the best and happppppy planning!!

[kd 9.21.02]

We're planning two weeks in Greece in September and have no idea where to begin. We've heard wonderful things about Santorini so we'll probably spend the majority of our time there. This is our big vacation this year so we want to stay at nice places.

Suggestions? Recommendations? Ideas? Anything we should look out for?

Thanks in advance!

[Sposa06]

I have to leave for class now, but I've spent a lot of time in Greece - mainly in the Cyclades - I will be back with recommendations and recollections tonight or tomorrow!

[kd 9.21.02]

I have to leave for class now, but I've spent a lot of time in Greece - mainly in the Cyclades - I will be back with recommendations and recollections tonight or tomorrow!

GREAT! I look forward to it :)

[Hello Kitty]

Greek Islands (http://www.constantchatter.com/showthread.php?t=6022&highlight=greek+islands)

[Sposa06]

Okay, Santorini is a fun place to visit, but I wouldn't stay there. It's overpriced, and in the fall, it gets REALLY windy. Santorini is still definitely worth a visit, though - check out Akrotiri, which is Greece's version of Pompeii. It's an ancient city preserved by volcanic ash. Santorini also has a monastery, a winery and a museum worth visiting (separate from the one at the monastery). You should visit the island Thira as long as you're on Santorini.

The best vacation plan we've ever done was the time we stayed on Paros. We stayed at the Hotel Yria, which has is absolutely gorgeous, and set up like a little village. The grounds were gorgeous (even the pool had a view!), it's within walking distance of the beach, everyone who worked there was unbelievably friendly and accomdating - really, it was perfect. The downside of all that is that it ran a couple hundred dollars per night - worth every penny, in my estimation, but you might think differently.

Anyway, Paros is great - fewer tourists than any other island in the Cyclades, in my experience. The main port town of Paroikia is great - restaurants, shopping, a few great bars - but also a place where you quickly get to feel like you know people. Naoussa, a city on the northern part of the island, is the Greek town you're picturing, and a great place for nightlife.

Anyway, Paros is centrally located (And only a couple hours' ferry ride from Athens, though they also have a slower, five-hour ferry), so we were easily able to do day trips to Antiparos (more of an afternoon trip), Ios, Thira and Santorini, Naxos, Mykonos and Dilos, Tinos, Syros and Serifos. I know I've been to a few other of the Cyclades as well, I just can't remember which ones off the top of my head. We rode the Hellas Flying Dolphin ferries.

You have to go to Mykonos, too. It's small, but beautiful and fun. Its neighboring island, Dilos, was said to be the birthplace of Apollo and Artemis. Mykonos was ruled by the Venetians for a little while in the 16th century, and there's actually a stretch of waterfront property that looks like Venice - these businesses sell lots of handmade craft items - I got a beautiful tablecloths at one, and it was the perfect souvenir - really easy to pack! Check out the shopping in Chora, too - there's a ton of variety (you could window-shop yourself to death on this island)! The buses on Mykonos were pretty reliable (reliable transportation in Greece is a find!).

I can tell you things about the other islands, as well - I'm just not sure where you want to go! If you have questions or want more info or pictures or something, ask away!

[dh5678]

Has anyone been to Lesvos? We will be there for 1 week this summer and will spend another week travelling in Greece (locations to be determined). :)

[Leia]

Another vote for Mykonos!

I haven't seen it mentioned, but I would recommend against Corfu. I didn't find it to be special.

[tlew12778]

visit the island Thira as long as you're on Santorini.

Um, Thira is the name of Santorini in Greek. Maybe you meant Thirasia?

http://www.santorini.net/uploads/pics/SANTORINI_en_480x496.gif

Re: Santorini - it's small. I wouldn't spend more than 3-4 days there. I would also avoid the tour to the volcano. It's a total waste of time bc all you see is some yellow sulfur on the rocks and some smoke. When we go to Santorini (we've been 3 times bc I have friends from there) we actually stay in Perissa bc it's much much cheaper than Oia/Fira and the island is so small you can get to Oia in 30 minutes. I would recommend renting a scooter if you or your DH feel confident driving one. It's soooo much more convenient than the bus. Same goes for Mykonos -- you can get to beaches up north where the buses don't go.

I thought that Paros was only OK. You cannot judge how touristy a place is bc the tourism on the Greek islands changes from year to year. Some islands are more popular than others in certain years. I actually found Paros more commercial (there's a wannabe McDonald's on the island).

If you are pressed for time, fly btwn the islands. You can fly Mykonos-Athens for like 80 euro one way and it takes an hour. You book these flights while your on the islands (you only need a couple days notice usually).

I would love to stay at the Mykonos Blu. It looked fabulous when we were there. On Mykonos avoid Paradise, SuperParadise, and Elia beach unless you are looking for MTv on the beach. Go to the bearches up north (you need a car or a scooter). There's a hidden taverna on Agios Panormos that was to die for. We want to go back just to eat there.

[Sposa06]

Oops! Thanks, tlew! Sorry about the brain fart!

I enjoyed the volcano, but things like that interest me. If it sounds like something that'd interest you, I still think it's worth checking out!

I've been to Paros several times - the most recent time was July and August 2004, when we stayed at the Hotel Yria. But it has never seemed crowded, touristy, or wannabe-American any time I've been there, which is why I recommended it so highly. I've also found the people on Paros to be incredibly fun.

I like scooters way better, too - they're fun to drive (but wear a scarf or a hat over your hair!), but I also know that some people would rather not be responsible for their own transportation. And while I'd recommend a scooter most places, we didn't rent scooters last time I was on Mykonos and made out just fine with the buses! I've also had some of the best food in my life on Mykonos!

[wheatlam]

My fiance and I are considering the greek islands for our honeymoon. Is there a particular time of year that is better to visit? Would this be a good option in July? I really no very little about travel and peak times, if anyone had any information I would appreciate it. Thanks!

[tlew12778]

Peak travel time for Greece is August since that is when almost all Europeans vacation. However, due to the rising costs with the introduction of the euro in 2002, many Europeans now vacation in July and September. So, while not as busy as August, you should not wait until last minute to book your trip, particularly the flight portions as those sell out quickly.

[scubasam]

DH & I went for our honeymoon & chose the last wk of May/first wk of June after doing a bunch of research on the best time to go. It truly was a great time of the year to be there....less tourists, still off season so was less expensive but historical sites, etc. were open and it wasn't uncomfortably hot but warm (mostly in the high 80's low 90's but two days it did get to 100 degrees).

We spent 5 days in Oia on Santorini and 5 days ended up being a little long but 3 or 4 days would be perfect. Akrotiri was definitely worth going to if you're into historical places and we enjoyed the boat trip to the volcano. I agree that scooters or busses are the way to go. We rented a car for one day to get around to all the beaches/sights and it was fine but wouldn't do it again. I imagine Santorini is overpriced at certain times of the year but we didn't feel that way at all.

[climberchic]

Ugh, I would NOT go to Mykonos. It's just me maybe but it is too touristy and commercial. I would go to Paros. I spent a week diving off Antiparos (the sister island to Paros). Also, GREAT windsurfing. I can't say enough good about the Peleponase, Mani and Kalamata regions of the mainland. I was there in July just before tourist season and I was glad to leave as soon as it picked up.

We also honeymooned on a VERY non-touristy island... but I'm not going to tell you what it is because I want to keep it my little secret. ;)

[BuffaloBlondie]

My dh & I went to Greece two summers ago. We went to Athens, Santorini, Crete, Patmos, Mykonos, Kusadasi(Turkey) & Rhodes. We thought that Rhodes was the best!!!! It is a nice & quiet small island. There is an "Old Town" that has a million little shops & restaurants. I also liked Santorini & Mykonos. However, Santorini is a tad expensive (at least compared to Rhodes).

[Sposa06]

Mykonos is definitely touristy, but in my estimation, it's still worth a visit! It's a fun, vibrant place.

[kd 9.21.02]

Thanks for all the advice and recommendations, ladies! We're still sooo up in the air on everything but I appreciate all the help.

Any hotels you LOVED? Even if you didn't stay there?

[lawgirl4]

karen - when we were planning our honeymoon (which was originally going to be to the Greek Islands) we had reservations at Perivolas (http://www.perivolas.com) in Oia. Very pricey but I have a feeling you are staying at a splurge-worthy place, even if for a couple of nights... The rooms look absolutely amazing. We also have friends who stayed at Katikies (http://www.katikies.com) and loved it.

The Greek Islands is the one trip I really wanted to take pre-baby - not going to happen, so I must live vicariously through you! :)

[kd 9.21.02]

karen - when we were planning our honeymoon (which was originally going to be to the Greek Islands) we had reservations at Perivolas (http://www.perivolas.com) in Oia. Very pricey but I have a feeling you are staying at a splurge-worthy place, even if for a couple of nights... The rooms look absolutely amazing. We also have friends who stayed at Katikies (http://www.katikies.com) and loved it.

The Greek Islands is the one trip I really wanted to take pre-baby - not going to happen, so I must live vicariously through you! :)

Thanks! We're wavering now... We might go to the Caribbean and learn how to sail together. But the Greek Islands are still on my list so this might happen. Thanks for the hotel recs!

[Bee]

For those of you who have been, how did you book your travel? I've found a Greek travel agent who is very nice & helpful. I have some particular hotels in mind where we'd like to stay. Are travel agents only allowed to book at places with whom they have a business agreement?

How about ferries? If we don't go with the TA, is it easy to book them yourself?

And a picture... for fun. I can't wait!
http://images.snapfish.com/346689498%7Ffp342%3Enu%3D3236%3E366%3E546%3EWSNRCG %3D3233623686728nu0mrj
(from http://www.anastasisapartments.com/)

We're planning to fly into Athens, stay a night or two to sitesee & catch up on sleep. Then ferry to one island (Mykonos maybe) for a couple nights & then to Santorini for a few more. The middle part of the trip is up in the air and we're still waiting on DH's work to approve leave. Then we'll be booking - for June! Hope they hurry, the really nice hotels are booked. :(

[tlew12778]

You can book the ferries when you get there. It's like buying a train ticket basically. If you want a cabin you should book ahead of time. You can book on the websites of the various ferry companies. Try the Hellenic Tourist Board for the links. You can also fly for cheap. Again, you buy these tickets pretty much last minute (although 48 hrs notice is better).

If you are interested in particular hotels, try contacting those hotels directly.

[ellybelle]

We stayed on Siphnos and Seriphos (sp?) . Quiet and relaxing -- nothing fancy, but great if you want to avoid the crowds and spend time on the beach. Of course that was yeeeaaaars agoooooo,

[Susan]

I did a little searching and found this thread about the Greek Islands. DH and I have been trying to plan a little "pre-TTC" trip, and I recently heard more about Santorini...and I think it looks like a place we would both love. Anyone else been there and have any input on the island? I would think we would go for maybe 5 nights or so. Would this be a good amount of time? It just seems like Santorini has a variety of things to do - not to mention the pictures of the scenery are amazing! Any suggestions appreciated! :)

[MSH]

Been to Greece a few times inc. Rhodes, Crete and Santorini loved all three. We got last minute cancellations which included air and hotel but no tours. When there we either toured the islands by ourselves or joined a local tour to places we were intestered in.

Santorini is a great place to go and I would definitely recommend it. However, it is very very small and you wouldn't want to spend too long there if you like to see lots of new things every day. However, it would be great if you love lounging and want to take it easy and enjoy beautiful scenery.

[Susan]

Thanks MSH! Well, I think we'd like a mix of sight-seeing and just relaxing, so I doubt we'd get too bored being in Santorini for 5 or 6 days. We're the type that can just lounge at a pool or on the beach with little activity for a week, ha ha. The scenery just looks so beautiful! I guess we'll research a bit more and decide if that's where we want to go. I appreciate your input!

[tlew12778]

Honestly I would die of boredom on Santorini for 5-6 days but that's me. We are generally beach people and while there are a few nice beaches, I don't think there are 5-6 nice ones that you could change beaches everyday. One side of Santorini is cliffs (IIRC) so basically there are only beaches on one side of the island. You could spend a morning visiting the volcano and going to the hot springs, but other than that, I don't recall there being lots of sites to see. It's a very small island.

However, you could easily just pop over to another island from there. I think that Paros is only about an hour away. Paros is much larger and has beautiful sandy beaches. You could probably even go for the day actually.

[Susan]

Thanks tlew12778! That's a good idea to visit another nearby island, like Paros. We definitely need to research a bit more to decide if this is what we want to do. I really appreciate the input! :)

[sophiapb]

I'm a little late replying to this thread but I have to jump in a recommend Contiki's Island Hopping Tour. http://www.contiki.com/en-US/Tours/Europe/Greek.Island.Hopping/Itinerary.htm
If you're not familiar with Contiki, it caters to the 18-35 crowd. I've taken four trips with them including our honeymoon and the Greek Island Hopping was my favorite trip. The itinerary has changed a bit since I took it. They now stop at Ios whereas my trip stopped at Paros but both Santorini and Mykonos are still included and I think those are the two important ones. I went the first part of September and it was fabulous. It was still plenty hot and there were still plenty of people to have a good time but without the mass chaos, lines and waits that goes along with the vacation crowds.
I recommended it to friends of ours 2 years ago and they went and said it was one of the best trips they ever took. Check it out!

[Susan]

Thank you so much, sophiapb! That sounds like a lot of fun. My DH and I still haven't decided what we want to do, but we may have to consider that. Sounds like a great trip.

[Bee]

DH & I had the same type of trip in mind (Pre-TTC) when we booked our Greek island vacation. We went in late June and stayed on Mykonos & Santorini. We did 3 nights in Mykonos and then ferried to Santorini for 4 nights. I think you could definitely stay 5 nights on Santorini. There are beaches, wineries, cute towns, scooter rentals, caldera tours, and of course lounging and exploring on foot.

Depending on what time of year you go, you may want to go through a travel agency or tour group. We went pretty close to high season so the ferries were running on full schedules and we had no problems island hopping.

This was our favorite vacation ever... I'm not sure if or how we'll ever top it!!
Here are a few pictures:

Mykonos is primarily known for it's beaches and nightlife. Sad as it is, we stuck mainly to our hotel & afternoon/evening trips into town for dinner!
Our hotel in Mykonos (Cavo Tagoo)
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Windmills on the edge of town
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On to Santorini... known for white wine, sunset views (esp. the town of Oia on the northern tip), and the Cycladic architecture - white buildings & blue domes. There are some beaches here too, but they are not as nice as some of the other islands.

The first two nights we stayed in a tiny town called Imerioglivi, this was our sunning spot
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The second two nights we stayed in Oia, these views are around EVERY corner!! It is impossible to put your camera away!
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This was the view from our balcony at dusk
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All in all, the trip was fabulous! The people were nice, we felt safe, the food was really good everywhere, there is lots of good wine, you'll have wonderful pictures. It definitely wasn't cheap, but given the chance, I'd do it again for sure!

[SMgal]

My DH and I are FINALLY planning a honeymoon (almost two years later!). I'm dying to go to Greece and to also see Southern Italy. (I've seen a lot of Rome and Tuscany) Has anyone done a trip like this? Sicily or Naples and then, the Greek Islands? Are they fairly close to one another and doable? Or should we skip Southern Italy and go to Greece via Rome? (I guess this is also belongs in the Italy posts-huh?)

TIA!

[tlew12778]

You can take a boat from Bari or Brindisi to the islands. It goes overnight. It's like a cruise ship basically. We did that a few years ago when we couldn't find any flights direct from Athens back to Milan.

The closest islands are Cefalonia and Zakynthos but you really want to go to like Santorini, Mykonos, Paros, Naxos, etc (Cyclades). That's where they take those typical Greece pictures with the white buildings and blue domes.

From southern Italy just drive up to Naples/Amalfi or take the train. It's only like 3-4 hrs. Well not from Sicily... if you take the train from Sicily it takes 10 hrs bc they put the train on the boat 3 cars at a time.

[SMgal]

ooooohhh. Thanks tlew12778! It seems fairly easy from Naples-Right? Maybe not so easy from Sicily... I assume Bari or Brindisi is fairly easy to get to from Rome as well? Do you happen to know how long the train might be from Naples?

[tlew12778]

No way. Naples is on the west coast but Greece is towards the east. You'd have to sail around the shoe part of the boot to get the Greece.

Bari and Brindisi are in the heel part of the boot. So you can easily get to Greece from there. Naples to Brindisi on the train is 10 hours. I just looked on trenitalia.com. The train lines in the south go very slowly bc the tracks are older. I would fly it with a budget airline. You can find who flies that route on skyscanner.com.

I am pretty sure there are boats that go from Sicily too. You would have to find the ferry site (sorry I don't have it bookmarked here) to see which companies sale those routes (after deciding on your islands).

Also, it depends on where you want to go in Greece. I wouldn't take a boat to say, Rhodes, which is on the eastern side and close to Turkey.

[SMgal]

Thankyou SO much for all your info! Better than a travel agent! ;) Okay. I'm getting the feeling that flying to Rome maybe the best bet. Then, flying on a commuter airlline to Bari/Brindisi to take the boat to Greece.

[Hello Kitty]

You also may want to look into flying from Rome to Athens and then either catch a flight or a boat to your island of choice. This is what we did when we went to Crete, as I had done the Brindisi route before.

Unless you're really looking at going to Brindisi, there's no reason you have to.

[tlew12778]

Yeah I wouldn't fly to Brindisi just to take the boat. I would just fly to Athens at that rate. But if you're going to be in Sicily then in would make sense to consider taking the boat to Greece.

[SMgal]

So, I DID book a trip for me and my DH! We're going to Southern Italy and Greece via a tour in mid Sept. We end in Athens, so I thought it would be the perfect opportunity to go to two of the Greek Islands! I realy want to see Santorini (everyone raves about this island), but I heard the ferry is six hours. It seems to make sense to stop at an island in between. Paros and Ios seem to be good mid points, unless someone has a better suggestion... Which island would you recommend seeing on the way to Santorini? Also, I'm taking hotel recommendations! ;)

TIA!

[Sol]

Ohh this thread has perfect timing for us! We're going to Greece and possibly France and/or Italy in October (10 days, I imagine), and I really appreciate all the info. DH has a conference in Athens, so that's going to be the focus of the trip, but I'm dying to see France and ideally I need to go get a birth certificate in Italy, so we'll see if we can fit that in.

We haven't really traveled much (well, we got married in India and Argentina, but they're our home countries) so it's going to be all new. I think we will just stick to Athens, Paris and wherever I need to go to Italy (Venezia), but all this island talk has started to make me long for some nice beaches. I've had two winters back-to-back and a beach in October sounds just perfect right now.

[tlew12778]

Paros is known for it's golden beaches. Although if I had to choose another island in the Cyclades I would go for Mykonos. The water is so clear there you can see about 50m down without sticking your face in the water. Flyinng btwn Athens and the islands is very cheap. Last time I flew from Mykonos to Athens it was 80 euro. And you cannot book these flights online. You must book when you get there and they only take reservations 2 days in advance.

Sol - You can get a birth certificate from the Italian consulate. In Italy, it's a quick process so long as you have some other proof that you were born here. Granted, with bureaucracy, you never know and I really would not want to waste a day of my vacation dealing with that.

Personally I would keep it simple and go to the islands. October can be the beginning of rainy season in northern Italy and it can be cold in Paris already.

[Sol]

Thanks for the info, tlew12778. I have a photocopy of the original birth certificate (it's a bit damaged, though, it's my grandfather's), but I need a new original asap and in the Italian consulate they say I need to get it directly from the commune in Italy (usually by mail), but they haven't replied to us and I've read it's been simpler for people who've been able to go to Italy and get it there directly.

[tlew12778]

Oh I thought you needed yours. It's going to be much more complicated getting his if he isn't present. I'm not even sure they will release one honestly. You most definitely need a "delega" at a minimum.

[jeeplover]

I know this is an odd question but I wasn't certain of where else to ask this. My cousin is going to Greece for her honeymoon and I was thinking of getting her an American Express gift card to use and I was wondering if anyone knows if she could use it while she is there. I have no idea if she is going on a cruise or what part they are going to. If anyone has any suggestions I would greatly appreciate it.

I will probably see if there is somewhere else I can post this as well.

Thanks!

[tlew12778]

Amex is not as widely accepted in the EU as it is in the US. Better to go with visa or MC. Check on their websites to see if they are accepted abroad but I am pretty sure that anywhere that takes Visa will take a Visa GC.

[Rosebud]

Agreed-- I rarely find places that will take Amex in Europe.

When DH and I got married, several friends gave us Euros, knowing that we were going to Europe for our honeymoon. That was fantastic-- we didn't have to exchange money when we got there and we had cash on hand right away. I don't think there's anything wrong with just giving them Euros. If you're not comfortable with that, tlew's suggestion of MC or Visa gift cards is great.

[vee05]

Okie dokie so i FINALLY booked our tickets for Sept 2008 to Greece. Wel be there 12 days now heres the question I have 4 days in Athens & for a Greece first timer what islands would you recommend. We went to Hawaii in August and loved Oahu but not Maui too much. Romantic,mingly and beachy with some sightseeing is good for us. Basically a total relaxation trip!

TIA

[bookworm]

When this thread popped up I realized I'd never updated (from what, 2 years ago??). We ended up taking a cruise that hit a few islands (Mykonos, Santorini, Corfu, and Crete) as well as some more "sightseeing" ish destinations.

Mykonos and Santorini were absolutely gorgeous. Having said that, I don't think I'd go just to go--it would need to be tacked on to another European vacation. I'm quite content lying on a beach, and I've glad I've been, but there are a variety of very nice islands that are a whole lot closer if I want a beach vacation. Combined with Athens, Istanbul, and Cairo--great. On their own--eh, Bermuda is good.

Vee05, as I said, I liked both Mykonos and Santorini. Santorini is supposed to be incredibly romantic (on a cruise with a friend, it was not-so-romantic for me). I'd look for a hotel built into a cliff, with a nice pool (visit the beaches, too, but I'd trade a beachfront location for the more unusual experience of a room built into a cliff, with a breathtaking view).

With 12 days, 4 in Athens, I'd pick at least 2-3 islands. Or maybe even a couple of days in another mainland destination, just to break up the beach.

[vee05]

Thanks Bookworm :)

[jajacobsen]

I agree. We spent our honeymoon in Santorini and Athens. In Santorini, we stayed in one of those cliff hotels. It was so romantic. The beaches are pretty rocky so we weren't missing any pretty dunes. But we did great fabulous views. I would think 5-6 days in Santorini would be the max (we had four days) one would want.

[ginadc]

Yeah, I think I'd max out on Santorini after 4 days. I also visited Paros and Mykonos, and would say that either or both of those two islands would be worth 2-3 days. What I'd love to do is spend a good five days or even a week on Crete.

[tlew12778]

Yeah I really do not like staying on Santorini for more than 4 days. Usually we stay 3 actually. I guess on the 4th day you could do the volcano... Anyway, we LOVE Mykonos. It's about twice the size of Santorini and you can relax as much as you want or party as much as you want. Plus the water is spectacular there.

I actually might spend less time in Athens. The first time we were there, we did 2 days in Athens and that was enough to see the major monuments.

[cactus]

Well, I may be biased because I did live there for a year, but I think Athens is worth way more than 4 days...there are plenty of things to do in the city (so many neighborhoods, markets, museums, monuments, etc.) and then if you tack on all the great day trips you could do from there it could easily be a week or more. If you're looking for fun things to do with Athens as a base I recommend a day trip to Delphi (about 3 hours by car or bus from Athens) or an overnight in Nafplio (only about 60-90 minutes from Athens) which is a beautiful romantic city on the Corinthian Gulf.

One of the PPs is right I think--Crete could easily take 5 days to a week. Heraklion is a good central location to explore both east and west ends of the island. The eastern beach areas are nice and quiet and on the west end, Chania is a gorgeous old town with an interesting history.

Other islands I loved visiting: Paros, Samos (go to the archaeological museum and see the colossal kouros--incredible!), Naxos, and Amorgos. Mykonos was interesting, but I think it just wasn't for me--a little too commercial, a little too Americanized, a little too loud. But lots of people like it! I am still sad that I never made it to Santorini, because I hear it is spectacular.

If you're on the western side of the country, I also loved Corfu and Zakynthos and Kefallonia...more British tourists in the summer, but nice beaches and a little more relaxed.

Either way, you'll have a great trip! If you're going between October and May, definitely check out the ferry schedules in advance, because a lot of boats stop running outside of the high season.

[jajacobsen]

You could do Paros and Antiparos in ligke 2-3 extra days, or just skip between several of the Cyclid islands. That might be a little more effort than you have in mind. I agree with Tlew that 4 days is plenty for Athens, although you may need some jet lag recovery time (which we did not as we were already in Europe).

[meatpie]

The well-travelled husband has said 2 days is enough for Athens (he's been I have not). I think it depends on your interests. I think I'm a bit more like Cactus and am fascinated by history and archaeology. When we went to Italy I LOVED Rome, wanted to stay a week there, but my hus thought 3 days was just fine and loved Florence.


I thought I would just chime in on Athens.

There are also some good threads about the islands on the fodors.com message boards.

http://fodors.com/forums/threadselect.jsp?fid=2

http://fodors.com/forums/threadselect.jsp?fid=2

[vee05]

You ladies rock!

4 days in Athens only because we do really bad with jetlag and it takes us about 2 nights to get in sync with the time zone wer in plus DH wants to see the historical side of Athens.

DH travels way too much and wants to chill basically and not spend too much time traveling and checkin in and checking out in various hotels.

[meatpie]

You ladies rock!

4 days in Athens only because we do really bad with jetlag and it takes us about 2 nights to get in sync with the time zone wer in plus DH wants to see the historical side of Athens.

DH travels way too much and wants to chill basically and not spend too much time traveling and checkin in and checking out in various hotels.

Have you ever thought about chartering a boat, or getting on a very small cruise ship and doing the islands this way? That way you see different islands and don't unpack three times just twice.

Some cruise ideas...
http://www.valefyachts.com/grecian_delights_cruise/

[Peppy]

I absolutely adored Santorini. I stayed for five days but would have been more than happy to stay another week. :) I think it fits a lot of your requirements: you can completely sit around and do absolutely nothing. They have beaches (not the nicest in Greece, but still nice) and I really enjoyed the city of Fira, which had some very nice jewelry shopping, other small shops, and a lot of restaurants and bars. The city of Oia is also very nice and quite picturesque, with interesting shopping as well (we saw a lot of shops selling art and photos in Oia). There is a winery and you can visit the old city. They have three famous beaches--the red beach, the white beach and the black beach--so you can devote a day to visiting those. Basically, you can kind of do as much or as little as you want, which I think makes for a perfect, relaxing vacation.

I would definitely suggest getting a hotel that has a pool, in case you just don't feel like going to the beach. The island is very small, so we rented a car and drove everywhere we wanted (so much easier than taking buses, I found). But the beaches are on one end of the island, whereas the picturesque views of the volcano are on the other. So if you stay in one of the more picturesque places, you will need to drive to the beach, making a place with a pool nice for days you just don't feel like going anywhere.

[vee05]

These are the Hotels wer looking at in Mykonos & Santorini.

Mykonos:
http://www.starwoodhotels.com/luxury/property/overview/index.html?propertyID=1194

Santorini:
http://www.vedema.gr/

While they look fab in pictures the tripadvisor reviews are mixed which makes me very nervous!

[Peppy]

The hotel in Santorini looks beautiful. However, I would consider not staying in Megalochori. The island is super small, so it isn't like it is far away from anything, but it isn't particularly close to much either.

If it were me, I would consider staying in Oia, Fira or Imerovigli. Oia and Fira are the two "major" cities on the island, and Imerovigli is kind of smack in between both of them. Imerovigli and Oia will also give you the prettiest view of the sunset over the volcano.

[SMgal]

My DH and I were just in Greece last month and like Peppy, I have to chime in for Athens and Santorini! I was pleasantly surprised by Athens. The metro is clean and efficient. We loved the Plaka area and spent two days shopping and going to dinners out in that area. I also loved the chapel of St. George. You take a finucular up to the top of a hill and there is a sweet church, a beautiful looking restaurant and an amazing view of Athens. Ofcourse, the Acropolis is also incredible. I think four days is PERFECT there!

We spent three nights on Santorini. The first two nights we stayed in Oia. It is beautiful there with a quaint little street you can walk along and take in the views. The third night we stayed in Fira which was also wonderful. The town is fun to walk around in and it seemed that there is more going on there than in Oia. Plus, there is a walkway that also takes you along the coast which I thoroughly enjoyed! You can take donkey rides in Fira. I highly recommend doing that!

If you wanted to see another island, I think you could do Santorini in three or four days and also check out somewhere else. Next time, I really want to see Crete. I've heard WONDERFUL things! Don't get me wrong, Santorini would be great for a week, but you might feel curious to see another island. I was curious, but we had a terrible boat ride in and then, they stopped the boats for three days and we were stuck. In retrospect, I'm really glad we spent more time in Santorini because Fira was the highlight for me there.

As far as transportation on Santorini- We felt the buses were very easy, cheap and efficient. I didn't want to drive on those narrow windy roads...

Okay. Keep us posted!

[Bee]

Vee05, that is so awesome you booked your trip! I'll second the pp in saying that yo probably don't want to stay in Megalohori. We passed through the "town" and there isn't much to do there. The photos of the resort are heavenly, but you can find an equally nice place to stay in an area with much better atmosphere. We stayed at Santorini Princess (http://www.santorini-princess.com) and I would highly recommend it. Also you can't go wrong staying in Oia!

We loved Mykonos too. We walked everywhere & loved that. One tip - be sure to arrange transfers from the ferries to the hotels. Cabs were not at the ports as we expected!

[SMgal]

Here is a website of where some friends of ours were staying (They were honeymooning). We visited them during our stay in Santorini and their hotel was really beautiful. It was in Imerovogli, which seemed fairly close to Fira (about five minutes by car). The rate also seems a little less than what you are considering in Santorini...


http://www.andromeda-santorini.com/

[Boopy]

I actually stayed at the Andromeda while in Santorini earlier this month. Out of all the places we stayed at during our trip to Greece the Andromeda was our least favorite. The view was beautiful, the room not so much. The bathroom was tiny. Like you had to squeeze yourself in between the toilet and the sink and then reach back around to close the door. Also the bed was rock hard. The rooms were widely varying though. We were there with a group and it seemed everyones room was very different. In one room the bed was up in this loft/shelf type setup. It was kind of odd. And the stairs! Oh my god, it was an aerobic exercise just to get out of the hotel! This was our first time in Santorini so while I don't have anything to compare it to, if we ever do go back I would stay somewhere else. JMHO.

[vee05]

So after a lot of thought and process of elimination as first time Greece visitors DH & I decided we will be going to Athens, Santorini, Mykonos & on our way back one night in Athens since our flight is early in the morning and out of Athens.

We decided against the Starwood Santorini resort and have contacted a couple of smaller independant owned hotels in Oia with a pool as some of you recommended we hope to have those finalised next week but other than that wer all set.

4 nights in Athens
4 nights in Santorini
3 nights in mykonos
1 night in Athens

Thanks for all the advice ladies now the countdown to Sept 2008!

[vee05]

Ok last question I promise!

Oia or Fira?

[SMgal]

Tough question. Oia is more remote and romantic. Fira has a little more action going on- there's a little more to do as far as walking and going out at night. Both places are really beautiful, but Oia has a tremendous bay view with sunsets which puts people in awe (the water also breaths!) Plus, they have that famous view of the blue steeple. If you can do both, I'd do that because they provide you with different experiences. I'd have to say that if I went to Santorini again, I'd probably stay in Fira and then spend an afternoon and evening in Oia. Being an urban girl, I tend to like a little more action so as not to get too bored... But, that's just me and my HO!

[Bee]

Tough question!! If money isn't a factor, I'd say Oia - it is what you picutre when someone says "Santorini". Oia is the biggest destination on the island... It was really nice to be able to explore the town after the sunset crowds left.

The biggest difference between the two places is that Oia is very quaint... there are no roads once you get past the taxi stand area! Fira is the island capital so while still pretty, I don't think it has anything that Oia does not... maybe more nightlife, but you can get that out of your system in Mykonos!!

Imeroglivi is between the two. You can walk to Fira, but not Oia. We enjoyed our stay there (2 nights) but felt a bit isolated.

[Peppy]

I would go with Fira. The PPs are right that Fira is more active and Oia more picturesque. I would stay in Fira because you can always drive out to Oia for an afternoon or a night or two, but Fira gives you more options for shopping, restaurants, bars, nightlife, etc.

Also, Fira is more centrally located. Oia is at the northern most tip of the island, whereas Fira is more in the center, so it is much faster to get to the beaches from Fira. And Fira is where the main bus depot is, so if you don't want to rent a car it will be much easier to get around if you are located in Fira.

If you stay in Fira, look for a place with a nice caldera view. The more on the cliff it is, the more likely it will be quiet. You don't want to be right on a main road, but that shouldn't be an issue--I didn't really see hotels right in the middle of the high-traffic area.

[Noa]

I honeymooned in Greece this past summer (3 nights Athens, 4 nights Mykonos, 5 nights Santorini). DEFINITELY stay in Oia - it is so peaceful and picturesque, great restaurants, you won't want to leave your balcony. The best hotel in Santorini is Ikies, hands down. In Mykonos we stayed at the Mykonos Grace, another great experience (although now they charge for their breakfast, which sucks).

[Txfish]

OK, Greece gurus -- tell me if I'm nuts for considering this, with travel times on ferries and so forth.

My mom is taking me on a trip for my 30th bday, but we really only have 5 days inc. travel days (from Texas.) I really want to go to Athens -- do you think it's worth it to do 2 days in Athens and pop out to one of the islands just for one afternoon/night? The travel times on the ferry are scaring me, but I hate to go over there and NOT see one of these famous Cyclades locales (prob. Santorini).

Help!

Oh, and also -- I'm up for any suggestions on the must-sees in Athens for a 2 day visit.

[cactus]

I wouldn't spend all the ferry time it takes to go somewhere remote like Santorini or Mykonos from Athens if you only have 5 days. That said, you *can* get a feel for island life much closer to Athens, and you can even do it on a day trip without even having to worry about spending the night. I would check out the close-in islands like Aegina or Poros or Hydra, all of which you can access much more easily from Piraeus. In fact, there are multiple boats every hour to Aegina and it's a short ride. You could go over in the morning, have a great lunch at one of the seaside fish tavernas, explore the town, etc. and still get a boat back to Athens that afternoon/evening. Aegina is also known for its pistachios (it's true--I really have never tasted any that are better!) so that's pretty fun too. Another option for a day trip where you get to experience the water is to rent a car (or take a bus) and drive about 1.5 hours to Nafplio, which is a fabulous little town on the Corinthian Gulf. Absolutely gorgeous, nice beaches and water views, and convenient from Athens.

My thoughts are coming from being nervous about the general unreliability of ferry schedules--island hopping is really much easier and less stress-inducing when you have a cushion of time to play with and you're not worried about things like rushing back to Athens to make a flight. And the ferry rides to the further islands are not short...it seems to me that you'll spend most of your time in Greece on a ferry boat and I don't think it's worth it. Those islands are nice, but I don't think I would go to great lengths just to say you've seen them at the expense of making your vacation feel rushed.

I'm also biased, because I spent a year living in Athens and traveling in Greece, but I think there's so much to see and do in Athens and around it that I always recommend staying there a little longer to people.

Maybe someday you can plan a separate and longer trip where you can go to the more far flung islands.:)

HTH!

Okay--and just quick ideas for "must" things to do in Athens:
-Acropolis/Parthenon
-National Archaeological Museum
-Climb Lycavettos Hill (best view in the city--you're actually looking *down* on the Parthenon from there), or take the funicular up
-Go to a "laiki" (Farmers' Market)
-Watch the changing of the guard in Syntagma
-Walk down Ermou Street (big shopping street)
-Eat gyros in Monastiraki
-Go souvenir shopping in Plaka
-Go see the Kalimarmara Stadium (1896 Olympic Stadium--all marble and very cool!)
-Temple of Olympian Zeus
-Walk around in chi-chi Kolonaki (place to see and be seen--have a coffee there in one of the v. expensive cafes)

That should at least get you started. :)

[Peppy]

I agree with almost everything cactus said. You don't want to be relying on ferries with such a short period of time in Greece. And I think her list of must-sees in Athens is pretty spot-on.

Having said that, though, if you really want to go to the Cyclades, it is possible. But I would fly. I think what I would do is fly from Texas to Athens. Then get a connecting flight to Santorini. You can do this with either Olympic or Aegean Airways. The flight is only about 45 minutes long. You'll probably get into Santorini at night. (This would be day 1 of your trip). Spend day 2 in Santorini. There is a lot to do. I would stay in either Fira or Oia. Wake up in the morning and head down to the black, red and white beaches. Spend a few hours there. If you're staying in Oia, head back to Oia in the afternoon, walk around the many little streets and take lots of photos (it is so picturesque). Get some lunch. Stay there for the sunset and take a lot of photos. Once the sun has set, head down to Fira. There are a million shops there, mostly jewelry shops, and they stay open fairly late. Stop into as many as you want. :) Grab some dinner. If you want to go to a bar or club, they have that as well. Then head back to your hotel.

The next morning, enjoy some more of the island, probably by walking around Oia or Fira. Then grab your flight (I think you can typically find one that leaves in the mid-afternoon). Fly back to Athens. This will be day three. You will then have a day and a half (or maybe two full days, depending on flight times and when you can get back to Texas). I think that one and a half or two days is enough time to spend in Athens. Sure, you can spend more time there, but if you really want to see Santorini and don't imagine you will necessarily be back soon, I think it might be worth it to squeeze it in.

Most of the things on cosmic's list can be done in one day. Of the things she listed, I would absolutely, definitely, do the Acropolis/Parthenon, the National Archaeological Museum, Lycavettos Hill and the Plaka. I might do the museum the day you get in from Santorini, so you can devote the next day to the rest of your sightseeing.

So on Day Four you could do the following: Syntagma Square is close to the Plaka, so you can definitely see the changing of the guard without spending a ton of time there. The old Olympic Stadium and the Temple of Olympian Zeus are both pretty close to the Acropolis, so if you get an early start you can hit all of those places (and also the Theater of Dionysus is very close). Even if you devote a full four hours to Acropolis/Temple/Stadiums, you still have a ton of time. I would get a cab to Syntagma Square and then walk over the the Plaka from there. You would only spend an hour or two in the Plaka. I have gone to Lycavettos Hill at night and thought it was really nice, although I am sure it is nice during the day as well.

Ermou Street starts in Monastiraki, so you can definitely kill two birds with one stone there. (Although you can get good gyros almost anywhere in Athens.) One thing I have never done in the many times I have been to Athens is go to Kolonaki, and I'm not sure how close that is to everything else or how easy it would be to squeeze in, but it might also be something you can drop from the list without too much sadness.

I think if you were willing to take a trip that was a little packed, you could do everything you wanted, including Santorini. It would be better to be able to spend more time there, but you would definitely get a taste of it. But I would definitely go with a flight. Good luck!

[SMgal]

Nothing too new to add here... I agree that a full day spent on a ferry to get to Mykonos or Santorini would be a waste of time. I didn't see the islands close to Athens (just Santorini) but my step brother speaks highly of Hydra. If you are dying to see the Cyclades, then I would also fly. We took a boat out to Santorini which was INCREDIBLY ROUGH and LONG! Flying back was easy and FAST.

We loved Athens. I loved the Plaka area- a lot to do in there! I also enjoyed seeing The Chapel of St. George. It's a little church on top of a hill that you can see from most of the city. We took a finicular up the hill and the view was amazing! Plus, they have a nice looking restaurant up there. Ofcourse, you have to do The Acropolis and I would eat lots of yummy gyros! :D

Have FUN and let us know how your trip was! :D

[cactus]

SMGal, the Chapel of St. George is on Lycavettos Hill...it's particularly amazing on Greek Easter because at the end of the midnight church service all the worshippers in that chapel pour out with candles and walk down the hill--which makes it quite a sight from below. We lived at the base of that hill for a whole year. There are some very steep streets around there!

[Txfish]

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!

That is pretty much what I figured on the Santorini issue... I'd love to go, but just not sure I'm willing to deal with the drama of getting there (nor the $700 to fly it. What's with the taxes costing more than the tickets???) From what I'd found so far today it didn't even look like the flight times were going to work very well to fit "efficiently" into our other traveling plans.

I'll make my dh take me another time... ;)

Great info on the closer islands -- that might be a great compromise for this trip. Thanks Cactus, peppy, cosmic and SMgal for the to-do's!

[MollJay]

Bumping this thread since there has been no activity in almost a year.

My DH and I planning to go to Greece next August, spending a week +/- in Rhodes and then 3-4 days in Athens. We are planning to first spend time in Rhodes and then the last part of our trip in Athens. It will make for a very long travel time, leaving Chicago in the late morning, flying to Philadelphia, then flying directly to Athens. We then have a short layover before flying to Rhodes.

Any thoughts on Rhodes.

We are not really party people, so Mykonos isn't really interesting. Santorini seems so expensive. We want a beautiful beach and clean water to swim in, good food, a few tourist places to visit, an open air market and just relaxing.
We already have reservations in Rhodes. I was surprised that several places are already booked for next summer. :confused:

[tlew12778]

The reason the places are booked is bc a lot of Europeans vacation there in August. Rhodes is one of the cheapest Greek islands bc they offer a lot of package deals (also Crete).

I have never been but my friends have and they have loved it. You need a car as the island is large. Also, I think you can take a ferry over to Turkey for a day.

FWIW, Mykonos is not all about parties. We are not party ppl either but it's our favorite island. It's also by far the most expensive (way more expensive than Santorini).