Tom and Katie....

[hockeybrat]

A cocoon? The baby isn't a butterfly! :confused:

[westamp]

Can't remember if this has already been posted. From TheBosh.com:Tom wants the baby to be enveloped in a cocoon of quiet and peace the first days of life

Really? So he's not gonna jump on a sofa and scream how he's "excited?":p

[Sophia]

I was raised Catholic, and I've never heard of a "Catholic birth," either, or of having a priest present during labor & delivery, unless there were serious complications that would merit last rites.

[ssstephanie]

I am so perplexed with this whole priest during birth/baby in a cocoon after birth hoopla. WTF?? It would make sense *i think* to have a priest there to sort of mediate I guess, as to how much scientology practice is used since apperently Katie Holmes can't speak for herself.

Didn't she live with her ex even before they were engaged? How can people still think she was a virgin all that time.

[Sophia]

The cocoon thing is (I hope) supposed to be a metaphor. I don't think TC, crazy as he is, intends to put the baby in a literal cocoon. He is a nut, though, so I could be wrong.

[Rosebud]

I was raised Catholic, and I've never heard of a "Catholic birth," either, or of having a priest present during labor & delivery, unless there were serious complications that would merit last rites.

I'm also Catholic and have never heard of this. I can't imagine why a priest would be asked to be at the birth. The baptism doesn't happen immediately after birth!

[tgray99]

The quick abandonment of her faith is what makes me think that the story of her accidentally getting pg with a random fling (I believe it was supposed to have been in London?) shortly after breaking up with Chris Klein is true. She probably got pregnant, got scared, the opportunity with Tom came up, she jumped on it as a chance to keep her good girl image (this is pre-TC freak out) and he saw it as a chance to gain an heir and look straight at the same time. To make it all seem "real" he chunked his old publicist that would have kept it all quiet, made an enormous deal about it to make people believe it was real. I'm betting Katie thought she was getting a great deal with her dream guy but now is wishing she'd never even heard of him much less entered into this deal with the devil.

[Sophia]

But KH & TC got together in June. She'd have had the baby by now.

It's also possible she lost her faith a long time ago. As others have pointed out, she was shacked up with Chris Klein for quite some time.

I just don't buy the knocked up by a fling story.

[BlackMagicRose]

I hope the baby is born on Easter. Maybe Katie will wake up and leave Scientology....who knows. I wonder is she will celebrate Easter with her family? So, my new Guess is the baby is a boy and will be born April 16th!

[miaclear]

I've said it before but I can NOT wait for the book to come out on this. I just hope I don't have to wait till this Alien Baby is old enough to write it.

[Leia]

Yeah, the books are going to be great. Can't wait! Maybe there will be secret tapes too, a la Princess Di. I hope someone offers Pat Kingsley millions for her memoir.

Anyway, my comment of the day is this: if Tom can't be bothered to be with Katie, or even on the same continent as her so close to her due date, then why the heck does HE get to dictate that she gives birth NOT in a hospital, WITHOUT a Catholic baptism, with signs telling her to be quiet, etc? This whole thing is beyond ridiculous, and gets more so everyday.

[tgray99]

But KH & TC got together in June. She'd have had the baby by now.

True...didn't think of that.

[Rose]

But KH & TC got together in June. She'd have had the baby by now.

Actually didn't they get together at the end of April & engaged in June?

[Sophia]

Maybe so, Rose. It's been quite a while, though, hasn't it?

[Rose]

Too, too long. It feels like forever. I feel like their baby is going to age like soap kids. Katie is going to have the baby and by Christmas it will be 5. :)

[Sophia]

Lmao

[Dunja]

Haha - yes, time passes sloooowly in TomKat land ;)

But the article of the day on Wikipedia is on Katie and there it says that their first public appearance together was on April 29th, the infamous chouch jumping took place on May 23d and they announced their engagement on June 17th. The pregnancy was announced on October 6th.

If anyone is interested, take a look here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Holmes), it's a rather good article with lots of sources.

But it makes a sad reading, she was such a great girl before she met him :(

[jellybeany]

Source: People.com


With fiancée Katie Holmes close to giving birth, Tom Cruise has admitted his own father was no role model.

Speaking to Parade magazine, Cruise – who has two children with ex-wife Nicole Kidman – said of his father, Thomas Cruise Mapother III, "He was a bully and a coward – the person where, if something goes wrong, they kick you. … It was a great lesson in my life, how he'd lull you in, make you feel safe and then, bang!"

Cruise, 43, says, "For me it was like, 'There's something wrong with this guy. Don't trust him. Be careful around him.' There's that anxiety."

When Cruise was 12, his mother left his father, taking Cruise and his sister Lee Anne with her. The actor tried for a reconciliation 10 years later, when his father "was in the hospital dying of cancer, and he would only meet me on the basis that I didn't ask him anything about the past."

Cruise sums up the experience as a life lesson. "When I saw him in pain, I thought, 'What a lonely life.' He was in his late 40s. It was sad."

[msnicolea]

Maybe Tom and Katie are having one of those Soap Opera Kids--it ages like 6 years for every one year of real time. I mean, Sean and Belle on DOOL should be like 12 not 22! ;)

[westamp]

But KH & TC got together in June. She'd have had the baby by now.

It's also possible she lost her faith a long time ago. As others have pointed out, she was shacked up with Chris Klein for quite some time.

I just don't buy the knocked up by a fling story.

But don't forget, there were several months between her break up w/ CK and her hook up w/ TC that she was trolling the clubs in NY and having a "good time." There's a possibility she had too much of a good time during that chunch of time....:p

[westamp]

Source: People.com

Speaking to Parade magazine, Cruise – who has two children with ex-wife Nicole Kidman – said of his father, Thomas Cruise Mapother III, "He was a bully and a coward – the person where, if something goes wrong, they kick you. … It was a great lesson in my life, how he'd lull you in, make you feel safe and then, bang!"


I actually heard this on the radio this morning. Puleaze, is this another bid for our sympathies (after that d**n postpartum depression rant of last year, I'm not going to give you a pass because your father was a bully)? I find the quote highly amusing because isn't he "being a bully" by forcing Katie into Scientology, abandoning her religion, isolating her from her family and the silent birth crap etc?

[Sposa06]

But don't forget, there were several months between her break up w/ CK and her hook up w/ TC that she was trolling the clubs in NY and having a "good time." There's a possibility she had too much of a good time during that chunch of time....:p

Yeah, but she's been with Tom Cruise for just short of a year - she'd have had the baby already if it had been a fling in between Chris Klein and this mess.

[Scooter]

Haha - yes, time passes sloooowly in TomKat land ;)

But the article of the day on Wikipedia is on Katie and there it says that their first public appearance together was on April 29th, the infamous couch jumping took place on May 23d and they announced their engagement on June 17th. The pregnancy was announced on October 6th.

It makes it easy for me to count because I'm due at the very end of April. If she's due in May, then she was 7-11 wks along when they announced the pregnancy. And she was between 8-12wks along when the blue shirt photos (http://www.constantchatter.com/showpost.php?p=241860&postcount=528) were taken. And she was definitely showing a lot by then, for some reason, so it looked like she was already 4-5mos along.

It really is like a TV pregnancy--they get pg in early summer at the end of the last season and then the baby takes 11 months in order to get here in May with the season finale.

[msnicolea]

Sounds like his Dad just needed to take some vitamins and get over his depression!

[Rosebud]

Tom Cruise Orders Adult Size Pacifier for Katie Holmes

In yet what appears to the most bizarre technique to silence his pregnant fiance during childbirth Tom Cruise has commissioned an adult size pacifier for Katie Holmes.

A source tells Star:

"He commissioned an adult-sized 'binky' for her to clench between her teeth, hoping that it'll squelch her screams.

"In keeping with a Scientology silent birth, Tom is prepared to do whatever it takes to muffle Katie's moans and groans during the delivery."

Cruise's PR rep, Arnold Robinson, denied the existence of an adult pacifier. As for its manufacture, a spokeswoman for NYU's School of Dentistry told Lowdown: "We haven't heard of it, but it doesn't mean a dentist wouldn't do it."

The alleged pacifier, which is reportedly made of plastic and molded to perfectly fit the 27-year-old Katie's mouth, could be deployed very soon. Cruise recently told a German television interviewer: "Katie could be having our baby at any minute."

source: hollywoodrag.com

[Rosebud]

Cruise/Lauer 2: Only the Glib Survive

In his latest Tom Cruise roundup, Ted Casablancas informs us that Captain Thetan is interested in another round of spirited debate with Matt Lauer. Will Cruise finally convert Lauer to the path of Scientology? Will Matt continue being glib? Could we get the two into a no-holds-barred tag team cage match with post-partum rivals Brooke Shields and Katie Holmes? Can the world really handle another meeting of these two awesome minds?

There are so many questions, and only time and the MI:3 publicity department will tell...

source: hollywoodrag.com

[hockeybrat]

W.t.f.?! :eek: :eek:

re- the pacifier thing.

[Sposa06]

W.t.f.?! :eek: :eek:

re- the pacifier thing.

I know! You have got to be freaking kidding me! The sickest part is that it was molded to her mouth, so it's something she consented to!

[JamBray]

W.t.f.?! :eek: :eek:

re- the pacifier thing.
If that's true, then he's even more of a whack job than I thought. Yikes!

Rosebud that little blurb is hilarious. I'd LOVE to see a re-match between those two! :D

[Sophia]

The Pacifier: WTF??? :eek:


Yeah, but she's been with Tom Cruise for just short of a year - she'd have had the baby already if it had been a fling in between Chris Klein and this mess.

Exactly. Which means she didn't get pg during a pre-Tom Cruise fling.

[greenbunny]

She's pregnant because they don't make alien-member-shaped condoms and things slipped sideways a bit.

[Sophia]

Ewww!!! Mental image! Mental image!

[brenda]

RE: the "Pacifier"

I actually had one of these - it's called a mouthguard. It's good for people who clench and/or grind their teeth. I had it to treat my TMJ years ago.

If you want to diss the creepy freak, by all means. But let's at least stick to creepy, freaky things that he actually says and does, and not some wacko's interpretation of something that may or may not have happened.

[lawyerlee]

The side shot makes her look fake-PG to me. Gah, is she or isn't she?! :eek:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/lawyerlee2/Celebrities%202/katie-holmes-wedding-ring10.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/lawyerlee2/Celebrities%202/katie-holmes-wedding-ring06.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/lawyerlee2/Celebrities%202/katie-holmes-wedding-ring01.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/lawyerlee2/Celebrities%202/katie-holmes-wedding-ring02.jpg

Source: JustJared.com (http://www.justjared.com/gossip/2006/04/katie_holmes_engagement_ring.php)

[lawyerlee]

Oh, boy. Poor Tommy. :(

Tom Cruise Says His Father Was 'A Bully' (http://breakingnews.nypost.com/dynamic/stories/P/PEOPLE_CRUISE?SITE=NYNYP&SECTION=ENTERTAINMENT)


NEW YORK (AP) -- Tom Cruise says his father was abusive and that school, where he faced other bullies, was difficult, in an upcoming issue of Parade magazine.

"He was a bully and a coward," the 43-year-old actor says of his father, Thomas Cruise Mapother III. "He was the kind of person where, if something goes wrong, they kick you. It was a great lesson in my life - how he'd lull you in, make you feel safe and then, bang!

"For me, it was like, `There's something wrong with this guy. Don't trust him. Be careful around him.' There's that anxiety."

Cruise has two children, Connor, 11, and Isabella, 13, from his marriage to Nicole Kidman, and his 27-year-old fiancee, Katie Holmes, is in the final stages of her pregnancy with the couple's first child.

[Sposa06]

RE: the "Pacifier"

I actually had one of these - it's called a mouthguard. It's good for people who clench and/or grind their teeth. I had it to treat my TMJ years ago.

If you want to diss the creepy freak, by all means. But let's at least stick to creepy, freaky things that he actually says and does, and not some wacko's interpretation of something that may or may not have happened.

We're not saying that a pacifier/mouthguard itself is freaky, we're saying that a man getting one custom-made for his fiancee to wear during childbirth is freaky!

[lawyerlee]

This is good! :D

Katie Holmes: Anatomy Of A Fake Pregnancy

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/lawyerlee2/Celebrities%202/holmes-fake-pregnancy.jpg


Having correctly completed all the necessary paperwork to apply for a chaperoned furlough from Tom Cruise's compound, Scientology war bride Katie Holmes was granted permission for a day of shopping in Beverly Hills yesterday. Coming out of Barney's New York (above), America's most suspicious expectant mother displayed all the classic indicators of an imminent fake delivery--skinny limbs, a face free of late third-trimester puffiness, and, most tellingly, a mid-sized beach ball inflated to the maximum pressure allowable by any respectable member of the National Board of Ersatz Obstetrics and Gynecology. Based on the above photo, it could be any minute now before a drone back at the compound silently pushes forth new life into the world, then watches as the baby is whisked away to its proud, commissioning parents before she can even sigh, "She has Genetic Material Injector #44477A's eyes." She'll never be prouder than when Cruise and Holmes introduce the child to a preselcted, nonsuppressive member of the celebrity press.

Source: Defamer (http://www.defamer.com/hollywood/katie-holmes/katie-holmes-anatomy-of-a-fake-pregnancy-165400.php)

[jesvet]

That's the first picture I've seen where it really does look fake.

[wagsgirl]

That side shot looks totally fake. I mean, really. Are we supposed to believe that is a real belly??? I had a friend whos belly was HUGE at the end of her pregnancy. And you couldn't tell that she was pg from behind. All of a sudden, she'd turn around and BAM, there was a belly. But Katie seems to be carrying awfully high for this late in the pgcy....

[Sposa06]

Katie seems to be carrying awfully high for this late in the pgcy....

Yep. That shot totally makes it look fake.

[lawyerlee]

If only we could see what's under that shirt! I don't know what the heck to think. :confused:

[wagsgirl]

I mean, first babies *usually* drop a couple weeks before they're born, if not sooner. I know second babies and so on usually don't...

And she looks HUGE!! Unless she's having twins! ;)

[meganth]

It HAS to be her shirt making her stomach look like that. I think/hope that's the case. Look at the second photo of her - the direct on photo - you can see the fabric looks like it's all bunched up.

If not - there's no way in hell she's really pg.

[Jessie]

If you look at the other shots from that series you can tell that it was the wind blowing her shirt up. I saw that shot and had to go find the rest because it was just too weird..

Here's a couple more from that series of shots.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b90/tstmstrgnrl/katie-holmes-wedding-ring07.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b90/tstmstrgnrl/katie-holmes-wedding-ring082.jpg

ETA Source: justjared.com

[mia_e_kc]

:rolleyes: Maybe the baby will be breach and she'll have to have a c-section. That would mess up Tom's whole plan. The last photo of her looks real. Maybe the first one was just a bad angle.

[Sophia]

That first set had me shouting "Fake! Fake, fake, fake!" But the other shots from the same series do look real, so I guess I can calm down now. :p

[Jessie]

That first set had me shouting "Fake! Fake, fake, fake!" But the other shots from the same series do look real, so I guess I can calm down now. :p

Me too! That's why I had to track down the other shots. :p

[lawyerlee]

Um, okay then. ;)

John Travolta & Kelly Preston Defend Scientology Birth Procedures (http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2006/04/05/john_travolta_aamp_kelly_preston_defend_)

John Travolta and Kelly Preston have raced to fellow Scientologist Tom Cruise's support as he and fiancée Katie Holmes plan a controversial silent birth in the coming days. The heavily pregnant actress plans to adhere to strict Scientology rules and give birth without screaming obscenities or making loud noises.

But the Travoltas insist the birthing procedure, which has been mocked in the press over the past few months, isn't like people think. Travolta says, "There are unwanted emotions and pain that goes along with any birth."

Preston insists the Scientology-friendly labor doesn't forbid the mom-to-be from yelling out in pain: "Screaming is fine ... It's the words. If you can avoid saying certain phrases and words ... Just try to keep it as quiet as possible. Of course you're going to groan and yell. It hurts. Just keep it to a minimum."

[Sposa06]

Gotta love it! Here's an excerpt from the MSN article:


ATLANTA -- Comedy Central's "South Park" won its first Peabody Award on Wednesday, winning praise from judges as TV's boldest, most politically incorrect satirical series.

Two Gulf Coast stations that stayed on the air throughout Hurricane Katrina won awards as well, and CNN and NBC were also honored for their coverage of the deadly storm.

WWL-TV, which judges said was the only New Orleans station to broadcast in the city through the hurricane and its aftermath, and WLOX-TV, which kept Biloxi, Miss., residents informed even after broadcasters were forced to the halls when the roof of their building was blown off, were both recognized for their coverage.

The George Foster Peabody Awards, for broadcasting excellence in both news and entertainment, are given annually by the University of Georgia. Thirty-two awards will be handed out June 5 in New York, hosted by two-time recipient Jon Stewart, who anchors Comedy Central's "The Daily Show."

"South Park" was praised as a show that "pushes all the buttons, turns up the heat and shatters every taboo," Peabody Awards Director Horace Newcomb said. "Through that process of offending it reminds us of the need for being tolerant."

Link to the entire article: http://entertainment.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=220435&GT1=7703

[lawyerlee]

Eat that, Tom! :)


This would be lots of fun:

Tom on Today Round 2

Ted Casablanca reports that Tom Cruise would love to go back on the Today Show to talk to Matt Lauer. He is about to hit the talk show circuit to promote MI3 and apparently Matt is one of the top people on his list to sit down with. Is it because it makes a great headline or is it because Matt actually challenged his beliefs - who knows but we would love to see if something crazy Cruise comes of all this.

Source: POPSUGAR.com (http://popsugar.com/6376)

[tgray99]

So, what's the word on epidural? Is she allowed one? If she is, she could TOTALLY do a silent birth. When I was pushing I had a great epidural and didn't grunt or make crazy noises or shout or anything and between contractions I was carrying on a conversation. Hmm...ya think Tommy'll spring for an anethesiologist to come to his house when she pops?

[lawyerlee]

This is just hilarious. :D

Kiss Me, Katie (http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix/66589.htm)
NY Post: Page Six

April 6, 2006 -- WHAT'S up with Katie Holmes? The once vivacious actress is like a "Stepford" wife ever since she hooked up with Tom Cruise and Scientology. During an interview with the expectant parents for Parade, reporter Dotson Rader writes, "Holmes . . . wore a large diamond engagement ring. She seemed dazed, passive and vacant. She never stopped smiling." Holmes continued smiling through the interview as Cruise described how his father beat him, and as Cruise was "hooting how beautiful she was, touching and kissing her like a teenage boy on his first backseat date, aware that he was being watched." Creepy.

[Sophia]

Holmes continued smiling through the interview as Cruise described how his father beat him

Maybe that mental image really makes her happy. ;)

NOT condoning child abuse.

Just saying...

[brenda]

We're not saying that a pacifier/mouthguard itself is freaky, we're saying that a man getting one custom-made for his fiancee to wear during childbirth is freaky!

Yeah, but he's been so proud about the less-than-conventional birthing methods planned, it seems that if this were a real pacifier, he'd be admitting/publicizing it, not denying that it even existed. I just think that if she got a mouthguard, it's not a pacifier. It's a mouthguard. You know?

Anyway - the descriptions of her during the interview are super creepy. Poor Katie. I think she's a young woman used to being dominated by the man/men in her life, and was easy pickings for TC.

[Marilyn]

What if there is a look alike that is really pregnant that they have hired to act like Katie at times. That would explain why she wears sunglasses a lot, why she seems to look different at times (like in the one picture where she had really big lips), and the belly skin shots we have seen are probably of the look alike.

[Freckles]

The report of Katie's demeanor during the Parade interview makes me so sad for her. It's as if TC stole her light. I have found his behavior odd this past year, but I had hoped that for whatever reason that at least Katie was happy with him, but that description makes her sound vacant.:(

[Sophia]

What if there is a look alike that is really pregnant that they have hired to act like Katie at times. That would explain why she wears sunglasses a lot, why she seems to look different at times (like in the one picture where she had really big lips), and the belly skin shots we have seen are probably of the look alike.

New conspiracy theory! Me likey!

[lawyerlee]

What if there is a look alike that is really pregnant that they have hired to act like Katie at times. That would explain why she wears sunglasses a lot, why she seems to look different at times (like in the one picture where she had really big lips), and the belly skin shots we have seen are probably of the look alike.
Maybe Scientology cloned Katie?

[hockeybrat]

Maybe Scientology cloned Katie?

Or one of them is an alien. :D

[westamp]

This is just hilarious. :D

Kiss Me, Katie (http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix/66589.htm)
NY Post: Page Six

Gosh this sounds so sad. Did they drug her? I think the powers that be in Scientology land should yank Tommy Boy as their poster boy because he's giving them a bad name (John Travolta was never that freakin crazy!).

This probably explains why she went along with every thing stupid idea that Tommy boy had. So sad... I wonder when her shelf live expires and Tommy Boy dumps her to the curb like he did Nicole. What will she do then? Wake Up?

[sarahncraig]

I cannot believe I didn't know this thread existed until now. I am totally obsessed with these two. They are totally whack!!!!

This was my old avatar, but then sand changed it for me today when the story came out about the binky. hahaha
http://www.livejournal.com/userpic/43946833/4986737

[sarahncraig]

Saw this on a German site. Too funny.

http://data.blogg.de/286/images/katie_holmes_vex.JPG

[tgray99]

GOOD GRIEF!!! :eek:

[stevesbabygirl]

That first picture of Katie with the very fake looking belly looks like she's saying "Do you honestly believe this is a real belly?" with her expression.

[jellybeany]

source: People.com

http://images.snapfish.com/3467648%3A7%7Ffp33%3A%3Enu%3D324%3A%3E699%3E2%3C%3 B%3EWSNRCG%3D323363696%3B86%3Cnu0mrj

[sarahncraig]

Yeah, then maybe Lisa Marie would be more "balanced."


Priscilla Presley Defends Katie Holmes' Silent Birth
It's respectful to the baby...
By: Lowri Williams on 4/7/2006

Elvis’ ex, Priscilla Presley has defended Katie Holmes’ planned silent birth.

The unusually vocal Priscilla has voiced her support for scientology and wishes she had given birth to her daughter Lisa Marie silently.

Priscilla said about the ‘misunderstood’ religion: "If people actually read L Ron Hubbard's teachings they would understand that drug-free silent births show respect to the baby and stop them becoming unbalanced.

"I wish I'd had a silent birth when I had Lisa Marie."

I reckon Cruise and Holmes’ kid has a pretty good chance of being unbalanced no matter how quiet she is…

Source: http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news?id=15642

[Sophia]

Is that top from the Laura Ingall's Wilder Maternity Collection?

And if she can find maternity tops, why is she apparently unaware of maternity jeans? Those things look like tourniquets on her.

[AirForceLove]

It looks like she is walking on the bottom of her pant legs like Britany Spears does. :eek: Why do they do that. It ruins them. Oh wait, they have so much money they just buy a new pair!

[tgray99]

[I]Priscilla said about the ‘misunderstood’ religion: "If people actually read L Ron Hubbard's teachings they would understand that drug-free silent births show respect to the baby and stop them becoming unbalanced.

There goes my epidural idea.

Poor woman. I believe if I were in her shoes while I was pushing and trying to be silent I'd grab me up a big ol' handful of scrotum and squeeze till he felt like I did. See if he can be silent. :D

[Sposa06]

if I were in her shoes while I was pushing and trying to be silent I'd grab me up a big ol' handful of scrotum and squeeze till he felt like I did. See if he can be silent. :D

LMAO!

[Sophia]

There goes my epidural idea.

Poor woman. I believe if I were in her shoes while I was pushing and trying to be silent I'd grab me up a big ol' handful of scrotum and squeeze till he felt like I did. See if he can be silent. :D


LMAO!!!! Love it!!! :D

[Smittenk]

Another pic from People.com

http://img.timeinc.net/people/i/2006/startracks/060417/kholmes3.jpg

[westamp]

Another pic from People.com


Ok, that belly looks fake (there's no wind indoors). Why is it soo high? I was carrying low when I was about due.

[tgray99]

Does she sew? Why is she in a fabric store?

[katmg]

Does she sew? Why is she in a fabric store?

Perhaps she's picking out fabrics for the nursery? Or maybe for the gag she'll need during labor/delivery...:rolleyes:

[Rosebud]

Does she sew? Why is she in a fabric store?

I was thinking that was a scrapbooking store. It looks like paper on those racks, not fabric. Maybe she's making a baby book?

[maplekitty]

Does she sew? Why is she in a fabric store?

i think its scrapbooking paper :)

eta: oops, cross posted Rosebud

[Sophia]

I thought it was paper, too.

[Sposa06]

Uh-oh! She forgot to take off her mad scientist coat before she left the fake baby belly lab!

[Rosebud]

Holmes' 'Passive' Behavior Stuns Interviewer

Pregnant actress Katie Holmes stunned a magazine journalist when she accompanied fiance Tom Cruise on a recent interview, by acting in a "dazed, passive and vacant" manner. The former Dawson's Creek beauty, 27, sat quietly beside Cruise as he opened up about his abusive father Thomas Mapother III to Parade reporter Dotson Rader. In the Parade interview, Rader writes, "Holmes wore a large diamond engagement ring. She seemed dazed, passive and vacant. She never stopped smiling." Rader was stunned to notice Holmes kept smiling, even as the Top Gun star recalled the beatings he suffered as a child.

source: IMDB

[BooeyJ2]

Her stomach just looks so weird. Then again I HAVE seen pregnant ladies look like that, but not that late in their pregnancies....and usually they were having twins or something. Just seems weird.

Anyhoo, if I was Katie and I really WAS pregnant and tired of the rumors, I would make sure my photo was taken in a bikini with that GIANT belly (not talking about the ones from a while back when she was wearing the "lingerie" thing LOL), but a real bikini and up close and everything.

[Rose]

Her stomach does look so odd, but Tom Cruise has *so* much money, if it was fake why wouldn't he get the most realistic belly possible? I keep going back to that.

[sarahh]

This is the most believable theory yet...at least to me it is! Found this on Oh No They Didn't...
I was listening to the radio this morning and tuned in mid-discussion to the morning DJs at my favorite station talking about Katie Homes' "pregnancy". Apparently they had talked to a reporter from The Insider that morning and had come to the conclusion that Katie was really pregnant by Chris Klein before she and Tom got together, but that Tom said that he was OK with raising the baby as his if she would play wife to him. They also concluded that she has already had the baby (evidenced by the loss of pregnancy weight around her face and ankles recently, and the fact that not many fathers would be as far away from a ready-to-pop mother as Tom is from Katie), and that she is wearing a prosthetic belly in order to both promote Tom's new movie best and to make the timeline right so that it looks like it really is Tom's and not Chris' (evidenced by the ever changing size/shape of Katie's belly).
I know there have been discussions around here about Katie's belly being fake and even if she was ever pregnant at all, but I never remember hearing the Chris Klein theory. If that is, in fact, old news, let me know and I'll take this down. (It's my first post here! Sorry if I didn't do it right!)

Source: My car radio turned to Los Angeles' 106.7fm morning show (http://www.kroq.com/kevinandbean/)

[Rose]

After 5 years, why wouldn't Chris Klein want the baby though? Especially if they were engaged and planning on having a family?

[Sophia]

Interesting. But wouldn't there have been a birth certificate filed at some point with the actual birthdate? Although I guess they could hold off on that and then lie about the date.

I don't know....

[andrew&shannah]

I saw this on the website for a morning show I listen to. This makes the belly look so fake to me...


Edited to remove picture since apparently it was already discussed...

[cari2]

I have twins and I was huge, but her belly looks way bigger than mine ever looked!! Plus, no matter what size shirt I wore you could always see the bottom of my belly peeking out. I keep going back to that - how come her belly is so big yet so contained?

[Sposa06]

After 5 years, why wouldn't Chris Klein want the baby though? Especially if they were engaged and planning on having a family?

I don't know. He kind of seemed like an ass. He might not care that much. Maybe he got off easy or something - TC could've paid him off, I suppose.

[lawyerlee]

Interesting. But wouldn't there have been a birth certificate filed at some point with the actual birthdate? Although I guess they could hold off on that and then lie about the date.

I don't know....
Scientology can do anything. Mwah ha ha! ;) :D

[melones]

Coming out of lurkdom to chime in that i think she may have already had the baby....for 9 months we have barely seen Katie without being at TC's side and now in her 14th month of pregnancy she is shopping at Barney's and Neiman's and a paper store...alone??...Me thinks the baby is at home until the math makes sense that the baby is TC's so she is running around town showing off her "see i really am PG with Tom's baby belly"

[lawyerlee]

Jared has a whole bunch of pics of her wearing that green top:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/lawyerlee2/Celebrities%202/katie-holmes-soolip02.jpg

JustJared.com (http://www.justjared.com/gossip/2006/04/katie_holmes_wedding_invitatio.php)

It looks real in this picture. You can even she her belly button. Hmmm.

[jesseybell]

I am definitely into the idea that she already had the baby. There was a period of time a few weeks back that we didn't see her for a while - what did Tom say, that she was 'lieing low until the baby comes' and now we see her all over the place.

That picture above is SO fake.

[melones]

its also kind of random that all her outfits are now shiny shirts topped with an overcoat so the belly peeks out....perhaps its part of the prosthetic design...and would cover up any loss of babyweight analysis

[Rose]

I really like that coat!

[Smittenk]

OMG that belly looks completely unreal! Totally alien belly! I am on board with the theory that she has already had it and they are now just throwing off the paps!!

[Rose]

Is her Mom still in LA? I couldn't imagine my Mom standing behind me while I duped the world for press. Didn't she just have her shower a couple weeks ago?

I don't believe that Tom & Katie have a real relationship or got pregnant on accident or through intercourse, but I just can't wrap my head around it being a fake belly.

[lawyerlee]

Jared also has more of her in the cream, LHOTP top:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b395/lawyerlee2/Celebrities%202/katie-holmes-baby-bump05.jpg

Source: Just.Jared (http://www.justjared.com/gossip/2006/04/katie_holmes_baby_bump.php)

[wolfchick]

Delurking for a moment: wasn't there a discussion a few pages back about how she might have gotten pg by some random guy in between the C.K. and T.C.? So, really, if she did already have a kid, it doesn't necessarily have to be Chris Kline's, KWIM?
Ok...I'm re-lurking now...

[sdianems]

I am so totally on board with the KH-really-was-pregnant-after-all-but-has-already-given-birth theory!

[jmvan74]

I think I agree that she may have already had the baby. Look at how thin her face is now. It got puffy for awhile and now it is thin again. She looks so much better, too. I guess that could be b/c TC isn't with her. :rolleyes:

[GoCougs]

But if she already has had the baby, by the time it's time for her and TC to "present" their newborn, won't the baby be too big to be passed off as a newborn??

[sdianems]

But if she already has had the baby, by the time it's time for her and TC to "present" their newborn, won't the baby be too big to be passed off as a newborn??
Maybe, but remember here we are dealing with odd celebrities, and perhaps it fits in with the Scientology edicts that the baby not be "seen by outsiders" or something to that effect.....
just a thought...

[greenbunny]

There are way too many lumps in that last pic with the cream shirt. It looks like she has three breasts and a goiter growing out of the baby (on the side, not her belly button).

[Sposa06]

Katie, dear, enough with the shiny.

[neenbean]

But if she already has had the baby, by the time it's time for her and TC to "present" their newborn, won't the baby be too big to be passed off as a newborn??
Not necessarily. Some babies are born at less than 6lbs full-term, but my DD (like so many I hear) was born at 9lbs, 3ozs and could have easily been passed off as a newborn or 3 month old. KWIM?

[lawyerlee]

There are way too many lumps in that last pic with the cream shirt. It looks like she has three breasts and a goiter growing out of the baby (on the side, not her belly button).
That's what I thought, too. Especially about the boobs.

[Sophia]

She sure does look perky in these. *getting suspicious*

[tgray99]

I am TOTALLY onboard with this theory!

[maplekitty]

yup im agreeing with this theory too!

1. she looks much perkier
2. her face is slimmed down a bit
3. her thighs look much smaller than previous photos
4. why is she out and about if Tom was saying she was "laying low until the baby comes"

eta:

5. and the obvious way too high and round fake belly

[hockeybrat]

OK, "the fake belly to hide that she's already had the baby" makes sense (not in the real world but it makes sense in the TomKat world)

Plus weren't there pics of her looking really swollen a few weeks back?

[tgray99]

Ok, if she's had the baby and is now out parading around with the fake belly from hell and Tom is off doing press junkets in Europe for MI: III, who's taking care of the baby? There's no way in hell I'd leave my baby to please my psychotic SO.

[ssstephanie]

[We're probably not allowed to quote images. -SORRY- But....WHAT IN THE HELL??????? lol

[Sposa06]

Maybe her "best friend" Jessica Rodriguez is taking care of it? If Katie's willing to get in on this scheme, it wouldn't surprise me if she was willing to be away from her baby.

[Sposa06]

Please save the photo to your own account on a photo-hosting site so you don't eat up other members' bandwidth. That picture was posted and discussed pages before andrew&shannah posted it anyway.

[Shapsgrl]

I was listening to that radio show this morning. They explained that they would wait to expose the baby to the press until the baby was about a year old so that people couldn't tell anyway.

Verrry interesting, to say the least.

[Rose]

How old were Connor & Isabella when Tom & Nicole adopted them?

[savannahgrl]

Ok, if she's had the baby and is now out parading around with the fake belly from hell and Tom is off doing press junkets in Europe for MI: III, who's taking care of the baby? There's no way in hell I'd leave my baby to please my psychotic SO.
I bet she has no problem leaving it with the nanny like all of the other celebs.

Totally off topic, but I remember watching Meet the Barkers this past season and Shana asked the nanny if the baby has been sleeping well through the night. That was an eye opener for me for me. They just let the nanny's take care of them.

[tgray99]

I was listening to that radio show this morning. They explained that they would wait to expose the baby to the press until the baby was about a year old so that people couldn't tell anyway.

Verrry interesting, to say the least.
Yeah, they might have her photographed with a doll wrapped up in a blanket so people think it's a newborn and then will be "officially photographed" when it's older.

Poor kid. Someone should call CPS, this should be child abuse to treat a baby this way.

[Rose]

Poor kid. Someone should call CPS, this should be child abuse to treat a baby this way.

This made me laugh. Trying to explain to CPS that the baby really had been born.

** Abuse is not funny.

[wagsgirl]

Like the rest of you, I'm on board with this "the baby is already born" theory, too.

She looks like she's lost about 15-20 lbs in her face and thigh/butt area. DEFINTELY looking slimmer than just a few weeks ago...

[Tenny]

Having the Baby Theory is the best one I heard so far. And it being her Ex would make explain how big she was when she announced her pg.

The sad thing is, we may never know the truth! And I WANT to know!!!

[Sposa06]

If it's really a cover-up, then there are too many people involved. Someone will be tempted by money and say something someday.

[Scooter]

LMAO at this thread!

I was thinking about those recent pics yesterday & how thin she's suddenly gotten & I started thinking, "I bet she's already had the baby! Nothing else makes sense, you don't just lose all that weight in your arms and face at the end like that." Plus if you think about those pics from the funeral--that huge black dress--and the pics of them on the boat in Australia, she was so much bigger then.

I should have known that I wasn't the only one thinking this!! You guys are too funny, feeding my KH fake pregnancy obsession. :D :p

[lawyerlee]

If it's really a cover-up, then there are too many people involved. Someone will be tempted by money and say something someday.
I would totally agree if it wasn't for their Scientology connection. I would bet that most of the people involved are also Scientologists and wouldn't say anything out of loyalty and brainwashing. :p ;)

[stevesbabygirl]

I love that theory, but wouldn't she be looking super tired after caring for a newborn? Unless, that is, she isn't taking care of it.

[kcjules]

I'm on board with the the theory that the baby is someone else's and already was born. That theory is the one that makes the most sense to me so far.

*Subscribing*

[SilverDecember]

I love that theory, but wouldn't she be looking super tired after caring for a newborn? Unless, that is, she isn't taking care of it.

They are not supposed to talk to or give medical care to the child for a week, right? Maybe the nanny is just tossing the babe a bottle every couple of hours while Katie shops.

[colz85]

This pic could lead one to believe that it's real...


http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i11/cmcondron/gossip/katiesbellyshot.jpg

[Sophia]

What's the date on that one?

[colz85]

Not sure on the date...saw it on http://morefamouspeople.blogspot.com/ this week.

[savannahgrl]

I believe that picture was from a few weeks ago. It was taken around the time of her shower. You should be able to find the pic a few pages back.

[Rose]

I think that's from a couple weeks ago.

[sarahncraig]

Katie Holmes, Tom Cruise and the 'Fake' Pregnancy
By Angela Carson
Apr 8, 2006

How bad is it for Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise and their 'fake pregnancy?' Even the Freepers are talking about it.

The entertainment world has long whispered that the couple are faking it and now with each strange looking snap taken of Katie - it gets worse.

***

J2 gives this account of another 'fake looking' preggers pic:

Blame it on the wind again but you've got to admit that weird shapes frequently form underneath Katie Holmes' shirts.

What's underneath this time? Free-flowing mammaries?

He has two snaps (link below) of "mom-to-be" Katie, 27, picking up a few more things from her baby shopping list yesterday afternoon. She cruised through upscale retail department store Neiman Marcus in Beverly Hills getting in some shopping time before heading home.

***

The Superficial is even having fun with it and writes, "I've never been pregnant so I don't consider myself an expert on the subject, but I have seen one or two pregnant women in movies before and they usually don't look like (that).

Jill Atkins is convinced it's real and predicts Katie will scream like a little Catholic girl during birth. Miu von Furstenberg thinks it's real as well.

***

It's real and for the couple's sake - please - just get it over with - perhaps this weekend.

Free Republic has more here (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1610954/posts?q=1&&page=51).

Miu has a pretty convincing pic here (http://socialitelife.com/2006/04/06/the_baby_might_be_real.php).

Just Jared has the bizarre pics here (http://www.justjared.com/gossip/2006/04/katie_holmes_baby_bump.php).

--Angela Carson

Source: http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_27264749.shtml

[MarriedaGoalie]

I guess I just don't understand why they would fake something like that. ???

[Sposa06]

If you look through the thread, you'll notice that they're both out of their minds.

[Rose]

I just don't understand why they wouldn't make a more realistic belly.

[Sophia]

I don't understand why they wouldn't keep her more secluded so that the discrepancies wouldn't be so obvious.

[MarriedaGoalie]

I think the "mysterious bump" appears to be more her boob than her belly. It looks like her bra is too small and part of her boob is sticking out or something. I don't think it has any relation to her belly.

[Amuse Bouche]

That real-looking one is from early March.

[Rose]

I think the "mysterious bump" appears to be more her boob than her belly. It looks like her bra is too small and part of her boob is sticking out or something.

That's what I thought. Mine do that once in a while, if I have the wrong size bra. Also I don't get how a weird breast bump would prove she already had the baby.

I wonder if we'll see any more glimpses of her belly. It seemed like as soon as the FAKE FAKE FAKE headlines came out then she was seen out with that leotard on showing part of her belly.

[KK812]

That just doesnt look like boob bulge to me. Maybe Tommy implanted a tracking device on her chest :p

[bensgirl1222]

Why doesn't someone just pull up her shirt already???

[jbenny75]

In the boob pic, her bump looks smaller again:confused:

The free republic pic looks so weird and totally fake.

[Lizard]

In the Just Jared pics, the 1st pic in the second row shows a teeny tiny bit of elastic panel, so it does appear she's wearing maternity pants at least. She definitely looks skinnier than she did a couple weeks ago... it's so weird.

[Phen]

I guess I just don't understand why they would fake something like that. ???

So that they can release news of the birth to coincide with the release of his new movie. It's all about the publicity.

~ Phen

[maplekitty]

So that they can release news of the birth to coincide with the release of his new movie. It's all about the publicity.

~ Phen


yup i completely agree with that prediction!!

[emmasart]

Did anyone see the new episode of "Family Guy" last night? They were totally making fun of Tom Cruise at one point. They had Stewie pretending to be Tom jumping on Oprah's couch yelling "I'm so happy! I love Katie, I love Katie! I'm not gay! See my new movie!... I'm not gay!!!"
It was hillarious. :)

[Regina Phalange]

Haha! I didn't see it but I can totally picture it.....voices and all. That's great! And I finally saw a preview for the new movie (can't remember the name but it's like Not Another Teen Movie) where they make fun of Tom bouncing on Oprah's couch.

[MsPeachy]

Did anyone see the new episode of "Family Guy" last night? They were totally making fun of Tom Cruise at one point. They had Stewie pretending to be Tom jumping on Oprah's couch yelling "I'm so happy! I love Katie, I love Katie! I'm not gay! See my new movie!... I'm not gay!!!"
It was hillarious. :)
I saw it! and then died laughing!!;)

[westamp]

Well the Sunday Parade hit my door and who appeared on the cover but TC! :p Anyhoo, this was posted a couple of posts back but you can read some of it online at Parade Magazine (http://www.parade.com/articles/editions/2006/edition_04-09-2006/Tom_Cruise_cover). The whole article will be available on 4/12.

Yikes, check out some of the comments left by readers. They're awfully brutal!

[stevesbabygirl]

I saw it too! And they make fun of him in Scary Movie 4 as well. Gotta get out and see that one!

[Sophia]

CNN has been running this piece on Silent Births, and I just found it on the website. It shows another celeb's silent birth.

Video (http://www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/showbiz/2006/04/10/anderson.tom.katie.silent.birth.affl&wm=10)

[PinkMartini]

I just got done watching the video.... :confused: I'm confused (but then again, maybe that's because I'm not a scientology member). How does having the dr/nurses during labor telling you to "Push, Push" have anything to do with a 3 year old getting a headache riding a bike???? WTF?

[msnicolea]

Jesus--if loud births = crazy kids, Tom Cruise's mom must have been screaming her ass off for 36 + hours!

[Rose]

Jesus--if loud births = crazy kids, Tom Cruise's mom must have been screaming her ass off for 36 + hours!

LMAO.

[Rico'sAlice]

How does having the dr/nurses during labor telling you to "Push, Push" have anything to do with a 3 year old getting a headache riding a bike???? WTF?

There are excellent reasons not to have any pushing coaching during delivery, but I can't say I buy into this as one of them. Of course, I'm not a scientologist either...

[Sophia]

Jesus--if loud births = crazy kids, Tom Cruise's mom must have been screaming her ass off for 36 + hours!

I was LMAO so hard, DH had to come see what I had read. :D

[Sunshine]

Is anyone else having problems viewing the video?
I wonder wha I am doing wrong:confused:

[Rose]

Ted C. is hinting that Katie may be having a boy AND a girl in his new column.

http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Awful/Daily2006/060410.html

[TX Sweetheart]

ok that "conversation" between Katie's belly and the shoe had me LMAO...

[cocopops]

All I want to know is what the hell is going to happen to Katie if she does make a sound during birth? Are they going to gag her!!! Scary sort of reminds me of a past episode of Lost :eek:

[KK812]

I read in Us(really reliable source, right?:p) That she's allowed to make noises, she just can't talk. Leah R.... from King of Queens is a scietologist and she said she just asked the nurses to whisper when they were in the room.

[Rico'sAlice]

OK, I am not a $cientologist and not trying to "defend" them or advocate this type of birth. However, I think it's been stated quite a bit (in the video above, by Kelly Preston, etc.) that the mother does not have to be silent. She can moan and yell, but should make an effort to avoid words. The prohibition on any utterance seems to be more on others there.
I think there are so many freakish things going on with this relationship & pregnancy- $cientology related and not- that we don't need to keep pushing this (apparently) erroneous idea.
Oh, and I know it's just a gossip thread, and nothing to stress over. ;)


ETA: Looks like I was working on my post while KK812 posted....

[Rose]

Leah R.... from King of Queens is a scietologist and she said when she just asked the nurses to whisper when they were in the room.

Leah documented her pregnancy & delivery for VH1 last year. They didn't show the delivery, but right after the baby was born they were just whispering, including Leah & her DH. It really was quite moving, as a baby had just been brought into the world. I never got a weird/crazy vibe from her at all. I don't remember her really discussing scientology either.

On the other hand TC seems so controlling I can imagine him having a lot more imput over what Katie can say or do.

[maplekitty]

I don't think I'm opposed to the idea of a quiet room while giving birth. I think a mother in labour is stressed out enough that she doesn't need to have everyone yapping and yelling and bustling around. I've seen a few episodes of The Baby Story on TLC, and you've got the nurses literally *yelling* "Push! Push!" And the DH counting so loud right up at the woman's face, that honestly that would drive me insane and I'd have to tell them to shut the hell up! I've already told my DH that I don't want any shouting or yelling when I give birth, I just want it as calm as possible - ack! I'm turning into a scientologist!! :eek: :p

[ssstephanie]

I guess I might be a Scientologist too. I'm not a mom yet but I already know when I become one I will make it very clear I don't want anyone talking to me during labor and delivery. I like the fact that they prefer whispers over speaking or even yelling. I would much rather someone tell me in a low voice, "Kepp pushing, you're doing good," as opposed to "PUUUSHHHHHHHH I CAN SEE THE HEAD....IT'S SOOOOOO HAIRRRRRY." Grrrr.

[DallasLady]

I don't think I'm opposed to the idea of a quiet room while giving birth. I think a mother in labour is stressed out enough that she doesn't need to have everyone yapping and yelling and bustling around. I've seen a few episodes of The Baby Story on TLC, and you've got the nurses literally *yelling* "Push! Push!" And the DH counting so loud right up at the woman's face, that honestly that would drive me insane and I'd have to tell them to shut the hell up! I've already told my DH that I don't want any shouting or yelling when I give birth, I just want it as calm as possible - ack! I'm turning into a scientologist!! :eek: :p

I've been thinking the same things. Seems like all the yelling and chaos that accompany many hospital births would just stress me out. I'd just want everyone to be quite so I can concentrate.

[westamp]

I've been thinking the same things. Seems like all the yelling and chaos that accompany many hospital births would just stress me out. I'd just want everyone to be quite so I can concentrate.

I'm trying to remember my birthing experience. It may be the epidural talking but I wasn't stressed at all. Also, my dr and nurse was very calm (no yelling nothing). You can say my dr was very matter of fact about the whole thing. I think the yelling Push push is exaggerated on tv. Of course I wasn't screaming either (epidural).

Now of course, if Tommy doesn't want Katie to take the epidural, then it's a whole new situation, isn't it?;)

[tgray99]

I'm trying to remember my birthing experience. It may be the epidural talking but I wasn't stressed at all. Also, my dr and nurse was very calm (no yelling nothing). You can say my dr was very matter of fact about the whole thing. I think the yelling Push push is exaggerated on tv. Of course I wasn't screaming either (epidural).

Now of course, if Tommy doesn't want Katie to take the epidural, then it's a whole new situation, isn't it?;)
Ditto for me too. I actually had to ask DH to talk to me, he was so quiet!

[Sophia]

I don't remember any off the wall yelling at me to push when I was in labor with Alex, but if there had been, yeah, it would have irritated me, and I can see how it might startle a newborn. I just don't think loud noise/bright light will come back and haunt a kid years later.

[maplekitty]

I just don't think loud noise/bright light will come back and haunt a kid years later.

no kidding, or come back and cause a headache while learning to ride a bike?

[Rose]

no kidding, or come back and cause a headache while learning to ride a bike?

So does this mean my migraines were cause during my birth? But my had a natural birth I swear Tom! No drugs!

[Regina Phalange]

Damn...where the hell is this "baby"? I check this thread everyday in hopes to hear some news. Stop the charade TC!

[KK812]

The article also said that epidurals are allowed by scientology, but i guess we'll see what tommy has to say :rolleyes:

[sarahncraig]

Ladies, set your Tivos/DVRs! Diane Sawyer will be interviewing Mr. Mapother on Friday at 9pm EST on Primetime - ABC.

http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1832182

[maplekitty]

You Diane wont be doing some fluff peice about the movie :p and the last time I remember he was interviewed seriously (Matt Lauer), Tommy called the poor guy glib and was totally wacko crazy!

[Rose]

and the last time I remember he was interviewed seriously (Matt Lauer), Tommy called the poor guy glib and was totally wacko crazy!

I just rewatched that the other day and it is hilarious.

Matt. Matt, Matt, you don't even-- you're glib. You don't even know what Ritalin is. ...

[maplekitty]

I just remember feeling so sorry for Matt. Like how do you conduct a "serious" interview with someone who is so clearly crazy? And Matt had to be so professional and be curteous to him, when you just knew he was bursting to say what he really felt to Tom!

[pocket]

I just don't think loud noise/bright light will come back and haunt a kid years later.

You don't understand - it angers the ghosts of the massacred dead aliens that live in the baby's body - and your body, BTW. Alien ghosts are extremely sensitive to light and loud noises. It makes them angry and that is what causes depression, post partum especially, and other personality problems. Obviously eliminating the aliens has really cleared up Tom's personality problems. Like being closeted.

[Rose]

Obviously eliminating the aliens has really cleared up Tom's personality problems. Like being closeted.

*snort*

[Sophia]

You don't understand - it angers the ghosts of the massacred dead aliens that live in the baby's body - and your body, BTW. Alien ghosts are extremely sensitive to light and loud noises. It makes them angry and that is what causes depression, post partum especially, and other personality problems. Obviously eliminating the aliens has really cleared up Tom's personality problems. Like being closeted.

*slaps forehead* I've been such a fool! Good thing I had this explained to me before I ruined yet another child.

[greenbunny]

I just remember feeling so sorry for Matt. Like how do you conduct a "serious" interview with someone who is so clearly crazy? And Matt had to be so professional and be curteous to him, when you just knew he was bursting to say what he really felt to Tom!

TBH, I almost wished I were Matt during that interview. I would've just started reciting random words just to see what TC would do. People like him are so fun to play mind games with.

[hockeybrat]

You don't understand - it angers the ghosts of the massacred dead aliens that live in the baby's body - and your body, BTW. Alien ghosts are extremely sensitive to light and loud noises. It makes them angry and that is what causes depression, post partum especially, and other personality problems. Obviously eliminating the aliens has really cleared up Tom's personality problems. Like being closeted.


NOW I understand! Thanks Pocket! :p

[Jazz]

I just rewatched that the other day and it is hilarious.

Matt. Matt, Matt, you don't even-- you're glib. You don't even know what Ritalin is. ...

Hee. Even the memory is funny. Did you find it online?

[JamBray]

You don't understand - it angers the ghosts of the massacred dead aliens that live in the baby's body - and your body, BTW. Alien ghosts are extremely sensitive to light and loud noises. It makes them angry and that is what causes depression, post partum especially, and other personality problems. Obviously eliminating the aliens has really cleared up Tom's personality problems. Like being closeted.
Ohhhhhh, that just makes so much more sense now! Thanks Pocket. I'm really glad you cleared that up for me before I had a baby...whew. :D

[pocket]

no problem, guys!

alien ghosts are something we all have to grapple with in our lives. i wish it was easier, but they must be appeased.

[jellybeany]

Source: IMDB.com


:rolleyes:

Cruise Attacks Psychiatric Drugs Again
Tom Cruise is attacking those who prescribe psychiatric drugs again in the May issue of men's style magazine GQ. The Mission: Impossible III actor, who embarked on an anti-drug tirade in TV interviews last summer on behalf of his Scientology beliefs, has launched a fresh attack on psychiatry, calling for prescription pill poppers to think carefully about the harms they're doing to their bodies. He tells the magazine, "I've always found the 'if it makes me feel better, it's OK' rationale a little suspect. I think it's appalling that people have to live a life of drug addiction when I have personally helped people get off drugs." In the interview, the actor claims he can get someone off heroin in three days through Scientology's detox programs.

[KristyK]

Maybe if someone would pop Tom a ritalin, he'd stop being so freaking crazy and delusiona! :p




edited to fix spelling...that I think is still wrong! :D

[Scooter]

I just don't think loud noise/bright light will come back and haunt a kid years later.
no kidding, or come back and cause a headache while learning to ride a bike?
What, you don't agree that hearing someone speaking loudly for a few minutes when you're born is SOOO much more damaging to a baby than having a mother with untreated postpartum depression for months?

I don't know why we didn't all see it before.

[greenbunny]

I wish a magazine would offer cash for all these former drug users to come forward. The only way to get off heroin in three days is to die of an overdose.

[Scooter]

Source: IMDB.com
Tom Cruise...has launched a fresh attack on psychiatry, calling for prescription pill poppers to think carefully about the harms they're doing to their bodies...[snip]... In the interview, the actor claims he can get someone off heroin in three days through Scientology's detox programs.
Yeah, because psychiatrists prescribe heroin way too often these days.

[Scooter]

I wish a magazine would offer cash for all these former drug users to come forward. The only way to get off heroin in three days is to die of an overdose.
Unless they use a rapid detox method, requiring *gasp* more drugs. Maybe the aliens have given him special powers to rapidly detox drug addicts through the power of his mind. Don't rule it out.

[hockeybrat]

Special alien vitamins will cure them of their addiction. Tom told me so. :p :p

[jellybeany]

source: femalefirst.co.uk

Katie Holmes has been banned from speaking to her baby for a week after it is born, it has been reported.

The pregnant actress has agreed not to talk to her new arrival, believed to be a girl, for at least seven days after she has entered the world, in accordance with fiance Tom Cruise's Scientology beliefs.

Katie, who is due to give birth any day, has already promised Tom she will deliver the child in complete silence, and she will also have very little contact afterwards.

A source told Britain's Closer magazine: "Katie respects Tom's dedication to Scientology. She is devoted to him and wants to bring up the child the Scientology way."

L. Ron Hubbard - the founder of the strange sci-fi cult - writes in the religion's creed, that all followers must live by, that new born babies must not hear their mother speak for a week so they will not associate their voice with the trauma of birth.

[Dally]

(OK, I lurk, but I gotta start posting)

This is so depressing:
Katie Holmes has been banned from speaking to her baby for a week after it is born, it has been reported.
I'm not even sure it's possible! How could you not speak to your brand new baby?

TomKat is a train wreck I can't stop watching, but I feel really bad for the baby.

[sea74]

Give me a break! I think that for the mom to NOT talk or try and sooth or love her baby w/words would do SO much harm to the baby :(

If this stuff is true, I feel so sorry for this little baby.

[sarahncraig]

For all of you obsessive-compulsives out there (you know who you are), you can go to google.com, type in "Tom Cruise", click "Google search", go to the "News" section at the top, and then click on "News Alerts" on the left in the middle. Then you can set it up to e-mail you whenever a new story about Tom comes out or you can set it to just e-mail you once a day. If you do news alerts for both Tom and Katie Holmes, just think how full your inbox will get! And this way, you'll know the minute that alien is born.

This is what the alerts look like. (Just be aware that some of the news sites are from Manila or Fresno or wherever. Not necessarily the go-to sites for breaking news.)


Google Alert for: "Katie Holmes"

Tom Cruise: No Baby Talk! Katie Holmes Better Keep Mouth Shut
Post Chronicle - USA (http://www.postchronicle.com/news/entertainment/tittletattle/article_21214152.shtml)
Katie Holmes has been banned from speaking to her baby for a week after it is born, according to a news snippet in Life Style Extra (UK), and a quick look at ...

Katie Holmes Pregnancy Update: Katie Unseen for Last Few Days
National Ledger - Apache Junction,AZ,USA (http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_27264867.shtml)
The most rumored Katie Holmes due date seems to be April 12. ... That has led to speculation that the fabulous Katie Holmes could go into labor at any moment. ...

[Scooter]

source: femalefirst.co.uk

...that new born babies must not hear their mother speak for a week so they will not associate their voice with the trauma of birth.
Isn't it more likely that the baby will associate it's mother's voice (that it's been hearing since it developed the ability to hear) with the comfort of the womb? Why would anyone think that the experiences of a few hours would completely override all the months that came before?

Not to mention all the studies done since L. Ron's death that show babies feel soothed & comforted when listening to their mother's voice. Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot--those studies are from the field of psychology, which is evil & shouldn't be trusted. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[maplekitty]

so when I'm having a hormonal pregnant moment and my DH shouts into my belly "you're mother is crazy!!" that's okay, but when *I* lovingly coo to my newborn how much I love it after birth, that's bad!!


AAAHhhh I get it now :p

[sophiapb]

Not being able to talk to her baby for the first week? Okay, I really hope that a lot of the crap out there now is just that...CRAP, meant to make TC seem even nuttier than he already is. The thought that a new mother can't speak to her new baby is so sad that I'm going to believe that it is another rumor since the alternative is just too awful for me to fathom.

[JamBray]

L. Ron Hubbard - the founder of the strange sci-fi cult - writes in the religion's creed, that all followers must live by, that new born babies must not hear their mother speak for a week so they will not associate their voice with the trauma of birth.

But if the mother is not allowed/supposed to talk during the delivery, then how can the newborn associate her voice with its birth? :confused:

Unfortunately it's not altogether crap Sophia, as it's what L. Ron Hubbard wrote himself (bolding mine).

"The baby should not be bathed or chilled but should be wrapped somewhat tightly in a warm blanket, very soft, and then left alone for a day or so,"Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard wrote in a Dec. 20, 1958, bulletin titled "Processing a New Mother."

[PinkMartini]

"then left alone for a day or so," :eek: Like totally alone? WTF?

[jesseybell]

I can not believe any of this (plus it said that the baby is rumored to be a girl - last I heard it was supposed to be a boy).
If you can't speak after birth, then no one should be speaking around Katie from 20 weeks on when the baby can hear,especially the mother's voice! Bonding from the moment the baby is born is so incredibly important.

Hasn't the baby supposed to be born "any day now" for about a month now??

[Sophia]

Freaking nuts.

[westamp]

source: femalefirst.co.uk

L. Ron Hubbard - the founder of the strange sci-fi cult - writes in the religion's creed, that all followers must live by, that new born babies must not hear their mother speak for a week so they will not associate their voice with the trauma of birth.

Excuse me but that's damn baloney. Anyway, according to all those baby mags, the baby already knows the sound of the mommy's voice because he/she can hear the mom when he/she is in the womb. So much for that theory huh?

Anyway, if Katie is really going to do this, then she's denying her child the most important thing in this world --- love. Or is this Tommy's way of brainwashing the kid (ala Michael Jackson/Debbie Rowe)? Gosh, I wish some alien thunder would just strike Tommy and put him out of his misery (if not, how about a runaway satellite?). :mad:

[jesvet]

So, ignoring the baby is NOT traumatic??

[jmvan74]

Yeah, because psychiatrists prescribe heroin way too often these days.

ROTFLMAO!!! This nearly made me pee my pants! :D

I really hope this baby is not neglected for a week b/c some science fiction writer says it is necessary. :(

[Sophia]

...some bad science fiction writer...

[Ali]

Not that Tom Cruise belives in science or medicine, but I believe that studies have shown the importance of human contact and bonding in those first few minutes/days. I was born extremely prematurely in a time where little contact was allowed. My mom and I had a very difficult relationship, and I have always had "other issues" and she always attributed part of that to our lack of contact right after birth.

[Linz]

gosh, I just feel so bad for Katie getting brainwashed like this. How can she not see how nuts all of this sounds? Aliens? Give me a freakin break. That poor kid too, Tom will probably buy everything he / she will ever need but you can't buy love and affection, which is something this kid is going to seriously lack.

[Rose]

Katie Holmes has been banned from speaking to her baby for a week after it is born, it has been reported.

I really hope this isn't true. This poor baby. If so, I hope when the baby comes Katie maternal instinct comes through loud and clear.

[mia_e_kc]

I hope you're right Rose. It sounds like Scientology wants "their" babies to be as distant as possible from their mothers so they can control them. How sad, how truly sad. I hope Katie doesn't put up with that. Babies need to hear their mothers voice to feel safe---not the opposite! They need to go back where they came from! Beam them up Scotty!

[Rose]

hope Katie doesn't put up with that. Babies need to hear their mothers voice to feel safe---not the opposite!

You are right. They need to be cuddled and comforted. I think this is when they need them the most, leaving the womb and going into the world. Meeting your crazy Dad.

[Scooter]

Not that Tom Cruise belives in science or medicine, but I believe that studies have shown the importance of human contact and bonding in those first few minutes/days. Yes, there are many, many, many studies and backers of what you're talking about. Early bonding is extremely important, partly because it teaches the baby right from the beginning to trust that his or her needs (physical and emotional) will be met. It begins laying the foundation for ability to bond with and trust others.

But of course, that's just the evil field of psychology, which is only out to scam people. Unlike Tom's religion.

[westamp]

More Crazy Tommy speak courtesy of MSN (http://entertainment.msn.com/movies/hotgossipb?GT1=7701)


Tom Talks 'Great Sex'

Memo to Katie Holmes: Please, we're begging you, get that endlessly baking bun out of your oven pronto, because Tom Cruise desperately needs a safe subject like poopie diapers to discuss while promoting "Mission: Impossible III." On the heels of last week's ultra-personal revelations about his abusive father, the "Dianetics"-devoted star is now discussing -- please put down your lunch -- his views on sex.

Cruise declares in the May issue of GQ that getting intimate with someone you're not in love with is "really horrible and pathetic and lonely. And yech."

Sex, he says, "is about the connection. Great sex is a by-product, for me, of a great relationship, where you have communication and it's an extension of that. Where it's just ... free. And that's how it should be. It's spectacular. If you're not in good communication with your partner, it sucks."

The communication between Tom and the about-to-blow Katie must really be "amazing," because he claims he knew she was carrying his progeny before she did.

"Oh, I -- I looked at her. And I went, 'You're gonna tell me if you're pregnant, aren't you?' It was a moment where ... It was one of those things," he (sort of) explains. "I just picked something up. And I knew at that moment she was pregnant. 'Cuz I notice things in people."

And what does the awesomely intuitive Cruise notice in the glassy-eyed, glib-free former starlet, for whom he's wantonly abused furniture while proclaiming his endless love?

"She's just cool," he nonspecifically enthuses of his fiancée. "She's kind, she's smart, she's fun. She's a woman who's not afraid to be a woman."

He adds, "I taught her how to ride a dirt bike in an hour and a half. She'd never done it before. She got her scuba license -- and the kids scuba dive so we all went down scuba diving in Mexico and swimming with the whales. Sometimes people freak out when they see the stuff I do. But it's like, 'Look, this is who I am,' and people who know me know I'm very safe about it. I'm not crazy ..."

Speaking of people freaking out about his not-craziness, Tom is once again touching on the sensitive subject of the sonogram machine he purchased and supposedly learned how to operate.

"I'm a filmmaker -- I need to see the rushes!" he attempts to joke to the mag (we assume there was an explosive laugh accompanying this quip). "At first we did it a lot. I don't know how many times, but I did not exceed FDA regulations!"

(The FDA, for those wondering, recommends using sonograms only to obtain medical information about the fetus and encourages limited exposure.)

As for the Scientology-sanctioned silent birth, the proselytizing pop-to-be says the lip-zipping is misunderstood. "It's really about respecting the woman," he insists of the hush-hush delivery technique put forth by L. Ron Hubbard, who as far as we know never pushed a human being out of his body. "It's not about her not screaming."

Cruise, who also chats up Diane Sawyer in a sit-down airing Friday, is unsure just where the TomKitten will make its debut ("At home, maybe. We're really going back and forth on that one") but reveals they've been attending "baby seminars" and "studying what a woman goes through." Say it with us: Fun!

Some other tidbits from the GQ interview, which hits newsstands April 25:

On Brangelina's impending (and competing) arrival: "Playdates! I've gotta give him a ring. I'm really happy for them. I am really happy for them. He's a good guy, Brad." (Said the still in-utero Jolie-Pitt offspring of the playdate invitation, "Thanks, but no thanks.")

On explaining the history of psychiatry to Matt Lauer: "I thought I was pretty restrained. I've been pissed off about things, believe me. I thought it was a terrific interview. I wasn't pissed; I just was intense on wanting to communicate."

On Katie's cravings: "She loves cupcakes, okay? I mean, the girl loves cupcakes."

On his hands-on approach to detox: "I have to say, I've always found the 'if it makes me feel better, it's okay' rationale a little suspect. I think it's appalling that people have to live a life of drug addiction when I have personally helped people get off drugs." Cruise claims he can get a person off heroin in three days.

On whether he told ex-wife Nicole Kidman, with whom he has two children, about the pregnancy: "It's not like anything I had to or didn't have to do. I wish her well."

On Katie's at-home pregnancy test: "Yeah, she did the whole stick test; I think she just touched the box and they all turned blue."

On commitment: "I'm the relationship guy. I'm not the dating, partying guy. It's not me, you know what I mean? I'm too serious. And I'm too intense. It means something to me."

On questions about the galactic overlord Xenu, a central figure in his religion: "You say this stuff to me and it's insulting. That's why I'm not even going to dignify what you're saying. There's always a lot of misinformation out there. I'm doing pretty good. Look at the things that have helped me in my life. You hear this other stuff -- come on, it's crap!"

OMG, that guy is unbelievable!?!? Where's that birthing pacifier when you need it? :( Put a sock in it please!

Re his statements about sex. How laughable is that? He stepped out on his first wife w/ Nicole and Nicole with Penelope. Yeah he's serious about relationships all right.

Knowing Katie's pregnant. Baloney. Yeah like he can tell a woman's preggers. Most men wouldn't know unless you tell them or if you're already showing. Uh huh, she has magic fingers that turn the pregnancy stick to blue.

Yeah, Brad and Angelina will let your kid play with theirs. Sure, what a joke! B&A's kids are normal compared to the soon to drop TomKitten.

OMG, I thought he hired a new PR person. Why isn't that person doing his job and muzzling Tommy boy? :confused: The more he talks, the more its guaranteed that MI3 will tank. Paramount should sue him for tanking that movie...

[jmvan74]

Maybe he knew she was pg b/c he was confident the IVF worked! or maybe he knew b/c she was already pg when they started dating and he kept hearing her puke in the bathroom!

[mgrace]

So, will the baby be born a few days before Mission Impossible 3 or a few days after? Hmmm....

[solongtogo]

I can barely read this thread because it infuriates me so much. I can't believe that there is a group of people out that that treats newborn babies and giving birth in this manner. God pray that Katie does not get a case of post partum depression because she will not be able to get help for it because of that brainwashing rat she's attached to.

[sarahncraig]

New article in People Magazine (http://people.aol.com/people/articles/0,19736,1182548,00.html) - their cover story this week.

eta: "(When asked if he might miss the premiere because of the baby, he replied, "Won't happen.") " hahahah RIGHT! Because the child is already here. Duh. hahaha

[jesseybell]

I've even started cringing when I see him in the ads for MI:III and the ads for the Diane Sawyer interview. The look on his face when she insinuates that Katie's dad doesn't like the situation is just scary. He really really creeps me out - which is sad because I loved MI:1 and the tv shows, but I want to boycott it.

[pocket]

the Scientology stuff is so weird, but really, everyone's religion is pretty weird, right? I mean, I am not eating bread all week in memory of a slave rebellion in what is today Egypt. If I have a son I will cut off his foreskin a week after his birth. I'm not saying I don't think Scientology is creepy, but is it really that much creepier than other religions? The virgin birth? Reincarnation?

[Sophia]

I think Scientology is way creepier, considering L. Ron started it up after a failed sci-fi writing career as a way to make money. It's a huge farce to scam people out of money.

[westamp]

I think Scientology is way creepier, considering L. Ron started it up after a failed sci-fi writing career as a way to make money. It's a huge farce to scam people out of money.

I believe I heard a story about this when I was working for a bunch of tax attys. Apparently, Ronnie Hubbard made a bet with a friend that he can "create a new religion" and people will follow (that's psychology talking here! OMG, is that blasphemous?). Anyhoo, the IRS has been trying for years to discredit them as a psuedo-religion (another Tommy catchphrase) based on this story. So yes, Scientology is creepy because it virtually controls people's lives (I don't think Christianity does that). Look how Katie turned out. She wasn't like this before. This whole story makes me sad. Katie wasted her life! :(

[jarm]

How would they handle it if they decided to postpone the release of MI3 for two months? Do you think she'd still be "pregnant" when it was finally released?

[Scooter]

the Scientology stuff is so weird, but really, everyone's religion is pretty weird, right? I mean, I am not eating bread all week in memory of a slave rebellion in what is today Egypt. If I have a son I will cut off his foreskin a week after his birth. I'm not saying I don't think Scientology is creepy, but is it really that much creepier than other religions? The virgin birth? Reincarnation?
ITA that all religions have beliefs that are really weird. However, I think the difference is that in the major religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc) their teachings are available to all members. And even non-members. They were also started/led by people who truly believed what they taught. L Ron Hubbard is known to have said the best way to make money is to start a religion.

In Scientology, you have to take classes ($$) and get "audited" (their version of psychotherapy) to go up to different levels, and each level reveals more of the information. That means that for the average Scientologist, there is information that they have no access to, so they really don't know everything that they purport to believe! That's why the majority of Scientologists say they don't believe in the alien thing--that's not revealed until one of the last few levels, apparently.

[pocket]

Pita's (DH) aunt is such a Scientology freak that she lives in the LA compound. When she comes to family functions she brings a "minder" who follows her around everywhere. I definitely think that it crosses a line. I'm just not sure where that line exactly is. Buddhists also believe that their psychological issues are the result of past life stuff. Mormons tithe extensively, and certainly there are plenty of televangelists who are getting really rich off of their work. that doesn't mean they don't truly believe in what they are doing, or that money is their primary motivation for spreading their ideas.

[Lizard]

"When asked if he might miss the premiere because of the baby, he replied, "Won't happen."

You know... this is not the normal response of a normal dad-to-be, REGARDLESS of how much of a celebrity they are. God (or Xenu) forbid your girlfriend's in labor and you have to miss a premiere of a movie that's gonna bomb anyways. He obviously was a dick before, but now he's a mega-dick. :mad:

Oh, and if you're bored and want some reading material.... here is some from a guy that was in Scientology for 10 years and is now campaigning against it - Lermanet (http://www.lermanet.com/).

[MrsD]

I agree that all religions have their "crazy" aspects, but this Scientology crap really creeps me out. I hope most of what the media reports about it isn't true, but I was reading in one of the gossip mags that Scientologists are discouraged from going to college, and children are not to be exposed to non-Scientologists. The explanation was that it was out of fear that a non-Scientologist would invalidate the child, such as saying "Naughty boy", as the religion believes only in positive reinforcement to others. This screams to me as a cult that preys on members who have had a traumatic/abusive past, and purposely shelters their members from education and outside human contact (which in my opinion IS abusive) so that they can never know they should break free.

[sarahncraig]

Oh dear. Someone has made a blog to end all blogs. Warning - nudity.

http://www.babytomkat.blogspot.com/

[jesvet]

Their beliefs are weird, definitely. Weirder than others? Debatable. But what makes it over the line for me is the cult aspect of it- the control, the isolation from friends and family. Their tactics are very similar to other religious cults I have heard of and seen in action.

[PinkMartini]

Their beliefs are weird, definitely. Weirder than others? Debatable. But what makes it over the line for me is the cult aspect of it- the control, the isolation from friends and family.

ITA! And as a PP pointed out, everything is "secretive." EVERYTHING. Unless you're a rich celebrity you don't get to know ANYTHING about the religion... MUCH creepier than other religions, imo.

[MichelleRenee]

There is a church by my house called "Church of Christ, Scientist." Is that a scientology place? It's been there forever. I would be so creeped out if that's what it was!

The whole birth thing makes me mad!! How in the world does it make sense to keep a new mother from talking to her baby so the baby doesn't associate the mom with the trauma of being born? If anything the baby needs the mom's comfort after the "trauma of being born."

[KaliLily]

There is a church by my house called "Church of Christ, Scientist." Is that a scientology place? It's been there forever. I would be so creeped out if that's what it was!

It might be Christian Scientist, which I believe is different from Scientology.

[sarahncraig]

GQ shots early -

http://www.celebrity-babies.com/2006/04/tomkat_in_gq_ma.html#more

http://celebritybabies.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2006pregshoot_001.jpg http://celebritybabies.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2006pregshoot_002.jpg http://celebritybabies.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2006pregshoot_003.jpg

[stevesbabygirl]

Those pictures are cute; too bad they are crazy.

[Ferris]

Those pictures are cute; too bad they are crazy.

LOL!! I totally agree with you! :p

[Rose]

Katie looks really pretty in the one on the left. Too bad Tom is th eone holding her.

[KK812]

Katie does look pretty. I would feel bad for her being a publicity stunt, but she asked for it :p

[morningdew]

Those pictures are cute; too bad they are crazy.
http://www.mothering.com/discussions/images/smilies/yeahthat.gif

[silentbunny]

I thought the one on the top left was kind of cute until I saw his right hand with its apparent death grip on her forearm.

Then, I just felt kind of sad...

[sdianems]

I thought the one on the top left was kind of cute until I saw his right hand with its apparent death grip on her forearm.

Then, I just felt kind of sad...
Yup, that ever present "death grip" that just screams I am the great and mighty Tom Cruise and this is mine!

[Myra]

There is a church by my house called "Church of Christ, Scientist." Is that a scientology place? It's been there forever. I would be so creeped out if that's what it was!

It's Christian Scientist. One of my cousins used to be married to a Christian Scientist. The only thing I know about that religion is that they don't believe in most healthcare.

I did a search and couldn't find this in here--it's another conspiracy theory, found on http://www.eitmonline.com/.



Diane’s got a great theory on Katie Holmes and her pregnancy. Lately the photos of Katie have looked horribly fake. Essentially, it’s as if she has a beach ball under her blouse and she is starring in a high school play. Why? Katie Holmes already gave birth… and it wasn’t Tom Cruise’s child. Yes, according to Diane, Holmes fathered Chris Klein’s baby and acted as if it was Cruise’s when she hooked up with him. And the reason Holmes is using a fake belly right now is so that the months look believable on the TomKat timetable. Not bad, right?

Well, that is what I thought before Jodi Picoult visited this morning. Turns out The Tenth Circle and Vanishing Acts author had her own theory on the TomKat pregnancy. Apparently, Picoult has a friend who works in the health claims department of the Screen Actors Guild and he informed her that neither Katie Holmes nor Tom Cruise ever filed a pregnancy claim. Therefore, Picoult believes that the pregnancy has been fake all along and that Cruise paid Katie to do so to help him with his career. Do what? Just listen. First, Picoult is convinced that Tom Cruise is gay and that knowing his core fans, most of which come from middle America, aren’t able to handle it, he needs a very tabloid-heavy heterosexual relationship. Jumping on the couch say what? Second, about a year ago, Cruise was basically hated by the all of the female race after he made his asinine comments about Brooke Shields and post-partum depression. What better way to fix that than have a child? So far so good, no? And, here’s the kicker. New York Times bestselling author Jodi Picoult believes that Katie Holmes will “lose” the baby right before May 5th, the release date for Mission Impossible 3. Wow, if that theory doesn’t blow your mind – I don’t know what will. Obviously nothing. So, in a couple weeks when women feel bad for a grieving would-be father Cruise and the red states continue to imagine Cruise having to bang Katie Holmes for that miscarriage to have happened, you can remember that EITM told you so… as you order an extra large popcorn combo meal at an opening night screening of M:i:III.

[MarriedaGoalie]

Wow, those are super cute pics from GQ! :)

[Rosebud]

More from the Diane Sawyer interview (from CNN):


No Catholic baptism for Tomkat's baby-to-be

LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Katie Holmes was raised a Catholic, but, says fiance Tom Cruise, their soon-to-arrive baby will not have a Catholic baptism.

"No," Cruise tells Diane Sawyer in an interview on ABC's "Primetime," airing Friday night in the U.S. "No, I mean you can be Catholic and be a Scientologist. You can be Jewish and be a Scientologist. But we're just Scientologists."

The 27-year-old Holmes' switch to Scientology has sparked reports of a rift between her devout parents, Ohio natives Martin and Kathleen, and the 43-year-old actor, who introduced her to Scientology.

However, Cruise shrugs off the stories of family friction, telling Sawyer he's close with "the whole family" and -- "absolutely, yes" -- they approve of Scientology.

The superstar dad-to-be also confirms to Sawyer that Holmes, in the final stages of her pregnancy with the couple's first child, will adhere to Scientology's practice of quiet birth. Cruise explains that "quiet birth," which aims to minimize talk and other noise inside the delivery room," is "basically just respecting the mother."

"She does what she's gotta do," he explains, addressing speculation that such a practice would somehow muffle Holmes completely and deny her pain medication. "If she needs medicine, she needs medicine."

The star of the upcoming "Mission: Impossible III" has two children, Connor, 11, and Isabella, 13, from his marriage to Nicole Kidman.

As the baby's birth approaches, Cruise says "it feels a little unreal."

Cruise said last week that he and Holmes plan to wed in the coming months. They have been engaged since June.

[LittleFredPunkinHead]

Hmm... I seriously doubt that you can really be Jewish and a Scientologist, or Catholic and a Scientologist.

[AirForceLove]

Apparently, Picoult has a friend who works in the health claims department of the Screen Actors Guild and he informed her that neither Katie Holmes nor Tom Cruise ever filed a pregnancy claim.

Just a question - If you are not a part of SAG, meaning you do not have your SAG card, why would you file?

[LittleFredPunkinHead]

Just a question - If you are not a part of SAG, meaning you do not have your SAG card, why would you file?
Wouldn't they have to be part of SAG to be in the movies they've been in?

[maryanne]

Any actors of their level have to be SAG .

Can I ask a question? The kids with Nicole are adopted , right? I can't remember.

[AirForceLove]

Wouldn't they have to be part of SAG to be in the movies they've been in?


After reading the the web site, I don't think so. SAG is a union for indistry people to join in order to get certain benifits. I am not a actor so I could be wrong, but when my husband got a job as a labor worker, he did not have to join his union.

[AirForceLove]

Any actors of their level have to be SAG .

Can I ask a question? The kids with Nicole are adopted , right? I can't remember.

Yes they are.