TTC w/Charting - Fall Is On The Way, And Babies Are In The Making!

[Charting is Knowledge]

TTCers of ConstantChatter:
Charting Our Course to the BFPs

http://www.ripleysorlando.com/images2/fertilitystatues.jpg
The fertility statues are known to work for some who rub them around the time of possible conception.
It is said that the baby is the most potent part of the statue.

So rub away! :D It's worth a shot!


Who we are:
This is a group of women using charting (temperatures, CM, CP, OPK/FM results, or a combination of these) to try to conceive and, along the way, are learning a heckuvalot about their own bodies! Many of us use a software program to keep track of our charts as well as allowing us to share them with each other. The most common ones are FertitlityFriend.com and Ovusoft.com.

Your threadmistresses for this thread are Baby Lust and Mystikal!
If you have any questions, comments or suggestions, feel free to email us! (charting_is_knowledge@yahoo.com)


To our members:
This thread gets very busy at times, so in order to keep things less overwhelming and a bit more organized, we start a new thread each month as well as after 3 BFPs. A link to the new thread is always posted at the end of the current thread to help everyone find their way over. The threadmistress would really appreciate it if everyone would post their updates in Red. That way, if I get a bit behind, it is much quicker to get the thread up-to-date.


Previous Thread... (http://www.constantchatter.com/showthread.php?t=5338&page=1)


KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!

Want to join the fun??
We welcome one and all. It doesn’t matter if you have never charted before or if you’ve been charting to avoid. I am sure you will find lots of help and support in this group.

If you would like to join, CD1 is the time to do it! That way, we can cheer you on
throughout your cycle, rather than 2 days before you test! :cool:

Please don't be discouraged by the number of posts in this thread. You don’t have to read the whole thread to join. Feel free to just jump in on the last page. Just read through these first couple of posts and post a reply with the following information and we will get you added right away. Of course, none of this info is a must but we like to know a little bit about one another.


WC Name: If Applicable
Me: name/age
DH: name/age
Married since: date
Off BCP since: date
TTC since: date
Charting since: date
Known issues/test results:
Chart: link
Current status: waiting to O, What the bleep .., testing...

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- Member ETF Status-

Lutealating:

Think I O'ed - Testing 9/26 - 10/2:
Baby Lust (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Shanes_Angel), Babylove (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=lotsofbabylove), Catloverpq (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/da20b), Dotsie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e00ca), Klav (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21291), Ryan (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3f12b)

Think I O'ed - Testing 10/3 - 10/9:
Bellefior (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6231d), Jnshanna (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cafa6), Katmg (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/89994), Nuhmah (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/d72dc), Polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d)

Folliculating:
Waiting to O (aka - Boring Part of the Cycle)
ABirney (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrsabirney), amurphy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a5e06), Applebee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/98534), bumble, BunnyBeth (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e5de5), Copswife03 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/daf53), CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas), Ds2003 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ds2003), Ellebelle (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2f8f5), Emermel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ef4), GMB4503 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/28f73), Gymwidow (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/813ab), Ilovemygeek (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bec65), Jjsanner (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/24f94), JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf), Kaeden's Mommy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bcdb2), Kristi32302 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/45b0a), Lizard (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/af125), Marteneym (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fa78), Mkvh (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99502), Mystikal (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/RaeK622), Ptcrn (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bed5d), SarahnCraig (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c1846), Shouldaeloped (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/63d7a), Spencer's_Girl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6f9cc), UTChick (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf25d), Wrighty26 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/beb7b)

Stagnating:
What the *bleep* is going on?!?!

Chart not Updated -- Waiting for an update:
Dlj78 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=dlj78), MrsT2b2003 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/alt), Silentbunny (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ae6c8)

Taking a Charting Break/Temporarily TTA:
Bottleored (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/44b0a), Ellidew (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/78d2a) - Temporarily TTA, Ericka_Jarret (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/22964) - SWH, flygirl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/flygirl), Mayham (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/be39e) - SWH, ShelbyMay (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/67c07) - Temporarily TTA

Percolating:
Expecting Mommies!

BFPs in September: (3)
Gator97 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/84b2d), Lowcountrywed (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c4aeb), Sabriel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c)

BFPs in August: (11)
Akachan93 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/229b9), Crazycaro (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21ac6), Guinness (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=10&id=guinness&tc=0&p=), jeeplover (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/721bb), Indiana Bride (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1d936), LittleStar (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c204a), Mel7dog (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ca05d), Missy329 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2b4de), MMHinCA (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c14c1), Sinclair319 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/sinclair319), Stumbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b1333), Uskiku (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cdfb0),

BFPs in July: (10)
Elenitsa (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=13&id=elenitsa&tc=0&p=), Heidi0622 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/549f8), Jane&Andy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c455f), Kopper (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/9e5e6), MrsCantDecide (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59e5b), Red_Canuck, Sevilla, ShannonGH (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ShannonGH), Tracie (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/a18c8), Tunibell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59461)

BFPs in June: (2)
Christy5599, Lovin'it

Tributatoring:
Proud Cheerleaders!
T3h_wookie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/25336)

Please advise if I’m off-target with your ETF (that's Estimated Test-Fest) or other status, or just need a good old-fashioned Ovary Shout!

-- Please remember to post all updates in red! Thank you!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Our Members:

ABirney (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrsabirney)
Me: Angie, 30
DH: Scott, 28 (29 soon)
Married since: Sept 25, 2004
Off BC since: Dec '04
TTC since: Sept '05
Charting since: Dec 20 '04
Known issues:
none

Amurphy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a5e06)
Me: murphy/30
DH: 33
Married since: 8/2002
Off BCP since: 4/2005
TTC since: 4/2005
Charting since: 6/2005
Known issues/test results:
chemical pregnancy in June

Almostthere
WC Name: Almostthere
Me: Sarah
Married since: 6-2-2001
Off BCP since: forever
TTC since: September 2005
Charting since: September 2005
Known issues/test results:
None
Applebee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/98534)
Me: Lori Ann
DH: Ted
Married: 4.4.03
Chart: since Feb '05
Known issues/test results:
Day3 Test all ok, DH's SA ok, but will have another one done. Motility on the low side

Baby Lust (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Shanes_Angel)
Me: Amanda/23
DH: Shane/27
Married since: 10/19/02
Stopped avoiding: 10/03
Charting since: 6/04
TTC since: 3/04
Known issues/test results:
B/W: 12/04 - Normal SA-high count, low motility, no ovulation; 50mg Clomid April/May; Chemical pregnancy 6/13; 100mg Clomid June/September

Babylove (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=lotsofbabylove)
Me: babylove (Tracee)
DH: Kevin
married: 08/31/03
Off BCP: November 2004
TTC: March 2005
Known issues/test results:
m/c @ 6w4d in April 2005; short LP corrected w/ progesterone supps

Bellefior (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6231d)
ME: 36
DH: 35
Married since: 5/31/03
Off BCP since: 5/05
TTC since: 5/05
Charting since: 5/05
Known issues/test results:
None

Bumble
DH: 33
Married since: 8.2003
TTC since: 4.2005
Charting since: 1.2005
Known issues/test results: miscarriage 6.2005 (8 weeks)

Bunnybeth (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e5de5)
Me: Bethany (27)
DH: Elon (27)
Married since: 6/23/02
TTC since: September 2005
Charting since: March 2002
Known issues/test results:
none

Calla Lilly
Me: Erin
Married since:
Off BCP since: 2 years
TTC since: September 2005
Charting since: September 2005
Known issues/test results:
N/A

Cat_loverpq (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/da20b)
Me: Cortney
DH: Glenn
Married since: 6/5/04
Off BCP since: February 2005
TTC since: 8/19/05
Charting since: February 2005
Known issues/test results:
none

Copswife03 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/daf53)
Me: Brooke/25
DH: Joe/27
Married since: 10/11/2003
Off BCP since: 8/20/2005
TTC since: 8/20/2005
Charting since: 8/22/2005
Known issues/test results: None

CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas)
ME: MMT age 33
DH: CT age 36
Married: 11/04
Off BCP: 12/04
TTC since: 01/05
Known issues/test results:
Long cycles

Dlj78 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=dlj78)
Me: Dana/27
DH: Nick/31
Married since: 9/18/04
Off BCP since: 2/2005
TTC since: 6/2005
Charting since: 2/2005
Known issues/test results:
none that I know

Dotsie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e00ca)
Me: Dorothy 30
DH: Sean 34
Married: 10/27/01
DS: Aidan 6/27/03
TTC #2: 9/2005
Known issues/test results: none

ds2003 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ds2003)
Me: 27
DH: 32
Married since: 11/08/03
Off BCP: 12/03
TTC since: 6/04
Charting since: 7/04
Known issues:
dx PCOS 7/04, annovulatory
Test results:
DH's SA-normal; HSG 1/14/05-normal;
-->Ovarian Drilling 5/20/05- I'm finally ovulating
Meds: Currently taking 1500mg Metformin and 5mg Femara/letrazole;
3 failed Clomid cycles before Ovarian Drilling (50, 100, 150 mg)

Ellebelle (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2f8f5)
Me: 27
DH: 34
Married: 06.21.03
Off BCP: 08.03
Charting Since: 08.03
TTC Since: 06.05
Known issues/test results:
none

Ellidew (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/78d2a)
Me: ellidew, 25
DH: 27
Married since: June 1, 2002
Off BCP since: 01/2005
TTC since: 07/2005
Charting since: 01/2005
Known issues/test results:
none

Emermel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ef4)
Me: Emily 27( Almost 28)
DH: Todd 30
Married since: May 12, 2002
DD born January 17, 2004
Off BCP since: May 2005
TTC since: June 2005
Charting since: August 2005
Known issues/test results:
None

Ericka_Jarett (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/22964)
Me: Ericka (31)
DH: Jarett (27)
Married: December 14, 2001
DD: Rebekah Joy, April 18, 2005 @ 24 weeks, lived 71 mins than passed to Jesus
Charting: June 2005
TTC #2: June, 2005
Known issues/test results:
None

Flygirl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/flygirl)
Me: Jen, 30
DH: 35
Married since: 2/22/03
Off BCP since: 4/03
TTC since: 6/05
Charting since: 4/04
Known issues/test results:
none

Gator97 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/84b2d)
Me: Kristen/30
DH: Peter/30
Married since: 11/06/04
Off BCP since: 12/04
TTC since: 2/05
Charting since: 12/04
Known issues/test results:
Dx endometriosis/ adenomyosis 8/05 laparoscopy 8/26/05

Gymwidow (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/813ab)
Me: Melissa/28
DH: Alan/29
Married since: June '03
Off BCP since: Feb. '05
TTC since: June '05
Charting since: Feb. '05
Known issues/test results:
none

Ilovemygeek (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bec65)
Me: Rachel (22)
DH: Trevor (23)
Married since: June 8, 2002
Off BCP since: June 12, 2005
TTC since: As soon as my cycles regulate themselves
Charting since: June 12, 2002
Known issues/test results:
None

Jesseybell
Me: Jessie/ just turned 35
DH: Dan/ just turned 33
Married Since: May 21, 2005
Off BCP Since: July 5, 2005
Charting since: August 10, 2005
Known issues/test results:
Diagnosed with endometriosis at age 19, DES Daughter

Jjsanner (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/24f94)
Me: Jen, 30
DH: Eric, 33
DS: Elijah, born 2/6/2004
Married since: 4/26/2003
Off BCP since: 10/2004
TTC since: 6/2005
Charting since: 10/2004
Known issues/test results:
None

Jnshanna (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cafa6)
Me: Shanna/29
DH: Jose/30
Married since: 10/01/94
Off BCP since: Haven't been on BCP for many years.
TTC since: July 2005
Charting since: 8/07/05
Known issues/test results:
None

JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf)
Me: Jody, 32
DH: Scott, 31
Married Since: August 30, 2003
Off BCP Since: At least 10 years now
Charting Since: January 2005
Known issues/test results:
None

Kaeden's Mommy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bcdb2)
Me: Kelly, 24
DH: Jared, 23
Married since: 8/2/03
DS: Kaeden: 8/15/04
TTC since: April 2005
Charting since: June 2005
Known issues/test results:
none

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Members continued...

Katmg (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/89994)
Me: Katmg, 26
DH: Jim, 30
Married since: Nov. 8, 2003
Off BCP since: 05/04
Charting since: 08/04
TTC since: 05/05
Known issues/test results:
None

Klav (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21291)
Me: Koren/ 33
DH: Dennis/32
Married since: Oct11,2003
Off BCP since: Jan 2003
TTC since: seriously jan 2004
Charting since: Nov2004
Known issues/test results:
may have a blocked tube but lap of '03 showed nothing.

Kristi32302 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/45b0a)
Me: Kristi/31
DH: Kelly/32
Married since: March 23, 2002
Off BCP since: Feb. 2004
TTC since: May 2004
Charting since: March 2004
Known issues/test results:
None

Lizard (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/af125)
Me: Liz (30)
DH: Chris (33)
Married since: Sept. 20, 2003
Off BCP since: May 2005
TTC since: May 2005
Charting since: May 2005
Known issues/test results:
none

Marteneym (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fa78)
Me: 22
DH: 27
Married since: October 4, 2003
SWH since: October 2004
TTC since: December 2004
Off BCP since: September 2004
Known issues/test results:
Delayed Ovulation; 50mg Clomid September

Mayham (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/be39e)
Me: 28
DH: 28
Married since: 5.02
Off BCP since: 9.03
TTC since: 3.05
Charting since: 5.05
Known issues/test results:
Delayed Ovulation, SA issues, Varicocele possible
9/9 FSH and Rubella- NORMAL
9/12 SA ABNORMAL- count 30mil/
motility 30% -repeat in 8wks

Mkvh (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99502)
Me: 28
DH: 31
Married: 3/19/2005
Last Depo Injection: 12/04
TTC Since: 7/05
Known issues/test results:
None

MrsT2b2003 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/alt)
WC Name: mrsT2b2002
Me:30
DH:36
Married since: 9/7/03
Charting since: 2/05
Known issues/test results:
None

Mystikal (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/RaeK622)
Me: Rachel/25
DH: Joe/31
Married since: 6/22/02
Off BCP since: 11/2002
TTC since: 5/05
Charting since: 10/03
Known issues/test results:
short LP-taking B6, magnesium, and zinc

Nuhmah (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/d72dc)
Me: Jennifer/27
DH: James/32
Married since: December 18, 2004
Off BCP since: July 2005
TTC since: August 2005
Charting since: August 2005
Known issues/test results:
none

Polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d)
Me: lauren 26
DH: brian 27
Married since: 11-20-04
Off BCP since: May 05
TTC since: May 05
Charting since: May 05
Known issues/test results:
none

Ptcrn (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bed5d)
Me: Jen/30
DH: Gerry/29
Married since: July 30th 2005
Off BCP since: August 14th 2005
TTC and Charting since: August 14th 2005
Known issues/test results:
none

Ryan (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3f12b)
Me/Age: Ryan/ 28
DH/Age: Joe/28
Married Since: 12/13/03
OFF BCP Since: 12/03
TTC Since: 03/05
Charting Since: 12/03
Known issues/test results:
None

Sabriel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c)
Me: Cherish/24
DH: Jon/23
Married since: May 22, 2005
Off BCP since: never on BCP
TTC since: August 10, 2005
Charting since: May 8, 2004
Known issues/test results:
none

SarahnCraig (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c1846)
Me: Sarah/34
DH: Craig/34
Married since: November 15, 2003
Off BCP since: June 19, 2005
TTC since: September 10, 2005
Charting since: June 26, 2005
Known issues/test results:
none

ShelbyMay (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/67c07)
Me: Shelby/25
DH: James/27
Married since: 5/17/03
Off BCP since: early September 2004
TTC since: 2/16/05
Charting since: 9/08/04
Known issues/test results:
possible semen allergy/antibodies

Shouldaeloped (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/63d7a)
Me: 33
DH: 35
Married: October 19, 2002
Off BCP: August 2003
TTC: January 2005
Charting since: October 2004
Known issues/test results:
miscarriage #1- 12w2d January 2005; miscarriage #2- 9w2d May 2005

Spencer's_Girl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6f9cc)
Me: melissa / 24
DH: keith / 34
Married since: Sept. 11, 2004
Off BCP since: August 26, 2004
TTC since: Sept. 11, 2004
Charting since: November 20, 2004
Known issues/test results:
None

UTChick (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf25d)
Me: Kathy 28
DH: Mike 34
Married since: September 20, 2003
Off BCP since: December 2004
TTC since: May 2005
Charting since: May 2005
Known issues/test results:
None

Wrighty26 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/beb7b)
Me (Michelle): 27
DH (Dan): 27
Married: 12.28.02
Off BCP: 01/2004
Charting Since: on and off since 2004
TTC Since: 05.05
Known issues/test results:
None

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Things I Have Learned About TTC
by WC's Sherylb

* TTC is a journey. You will discover things about yourself that you never expected. You will face fears you never thought you had. You will find joy in little things.

* TTC can bring you closer to your DH, or it can pull you apart. If your marriage is not solid, you will find out quickly.

* No one understands exactly what you are feeling at any given moment, but someone can empathize at least a little bit.

* You will experience an emotional roller coaster ride. There will be highs and lows and fast moments and slow. Sometimes you have to wait in a very, very slow moving line. You may not even get the seat you want. It is not always fun, it can be scary, but in the end it is worth it.

* "Just relax" is the last thing in the world you want to hear from someone, but it is OK if you say it about yourself.

* There will be moments when you question your own decision to start TTC. You will wonder if you should wait or if you should just give up. Those are normal. But you will get past those feelings.

* The blue and green turtle likes to pop its head out! You will hear of someone's pregnancy and turn green with envy and blue inside because it isn't you.

* It isn't fair, it isn't easy, and it isn't pretty. But you keep doing it because the reward is worth it.

* You will be your best friend and your worst enemy. Your body will
surprise you and yet disappoint you.

* Some women do get lucky and conceive right away. Others aren't so lucky and have to struggle to get there. Hope you will be in the first category, but prepare yourself to be in the second.

* Once you decide to TTC, there will be babies and pregnant women everywhere! You could swear there is a baby boom going on!

* You will have questions. No one will ever be in exactly your position, so don't be surprised when no one can give you exactly the answer you are looking for. But there are people that can contribute, so don't be afraid to ask!

* Two lines on a pregnancy test is not the end of the struggle. Pregnancy has lots of struggles in and of itself.

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HTP sensitivity chart

These numbers might come in handy when shopping for HPTs.
The lower the amount of mIU measured, the more sensitive the test is!

AimStick Pregnancy Test Strip 20 mIU
AccuHome Midstream Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Pregnancy Test (Cup) 25 mIU
Clearblue +/- 25 mIU
Clearblue Digital 25 mIU
Confirm 1-Step Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Dollar Store Brand Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Equate Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
First Response Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
One Step Be Sure Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Precise Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Quickview Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Walgreen Digital 25 mIU
e.p.t. Home Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
Fact Plus Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
CVS Cartridge Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
CVS Midstream Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Drug Emporium Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. + / - Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. Certainty Digital Test 50 mIU
early Pregnancy test 50 mIU
RiteAid Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Target Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
WalMart Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Walgreens Pregnancy Test 100 mIU

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- Common TTC abbreviations

This is a list of some of the more common TTC abbreviations. I know as a newcomer to the TTC threads, it can be hard to keep them all straight. I hope these will help, and if anyone has any they would like added, please let me know!


•2WW: "2 week wait" - The approximate time from possible conception to menstruation due date; Pregnancy tests should be taken near the end of the 2WW.
•AF: "Aunt Flo"; Your period; Menstruation
•AFNW: "Aunt Flo Not Wanted"; the day your period is expected to start, but you are hoping it doesn't!
•AO: anovulatory (cycle without ovulation)
•BBs: "boobs"; breasts
•BBL: "be back later"
•BBT: Basal Body Thermometer; This is used to measure your basal body temperature, when you wake up in the morning, after at least 3 hours of sleep, before you start to move around; Use a special BBT thermometer to take your temperature because they measure the small changes in temperature from day to day more accurately than the regular fever thermometers.
•BCP: Birth control pills
•BD'ing: "baby dancing"; baby-making intercourse
•BFN: "Big Fat Neutral" or “Big Fat Negative”; Negative pregnancy test.
•BF'ing: breast-feeding
•BRB: "be right back"
•CD: cycle day; a particular day in your menstrual cycle (example: CD1 is the first day of your period)
•CL: Cover Line; a visual tool used to separate the low (pre-ovulatory) temps from high (post-ovulatory) temps; a coverline is typically based on the temperatures 6 days prior to ovulation.
•CM: cervical mucous; one of the most useful clues your body can give you in predicting your fertility; it can range from dry, creamy, sticky, or (the most fertile) egg white/watery type.
•CF: cervical fluid; same as cervical mucus
•CP: cervical position; an optional, but sometimes really useful, fertility sign; CP will generally be low, firm and closed before and after ovulation, and high, soft and open during your fertile time.
•DD: "dear daughter"
•DH: "dear husband"
•DS: "dear son"
•DPO: Days Past Ovulation; number of days from your post-ovulatory temperature rise. (Example: 1DPO is the day after your ovulation)
•Endo: endometriosis (can be a fertility problem)
•EDC and EDD: estimated date of confinement (antiquated, but still used by physicians) and estimated date of delivery
•EPT: a brand of pregnancy test, or, generic for "early pregnancy test"
•EW or EWCM: egg white cervical mucus; the most fertile quality CM; it is slippery, clear and stretchy, like egg whites; also EWCF
•FAM: Fertility Awareness Method; the method of fertility and/or birth control that correlates the physical changes you experience during your cycle to predict when you are most fertile
•FF: Fertility Friend, an online (free, for basic services) fertility charting site (website); (could also be formula feeding; check context)
•FM: fertility monitor
•FMU: first morning urine
•FP: follicular phase; the phase before ovulation, where the egg matures in the ovaries
•FRED: First Response Early Detection (pregnancy test)
•HCG: human chorionic gonadotropin; the hormone that is present during pregnancy and what the HPT's and blood test measure to determine if you are pregnant
•HTH: "hope that helps"
•HPT: home pregnancy test; a urine pregnancy test you can take at home
•IMHO: "in my humble opinion"
•IMO: "in my opinion"
•IUI: intra-uterine insemination
•IVF: in vitro fertilization
•KU: knocked up
•LH: leutenizing hormone; the LH surge is what is measured by the OPKs; this hormone signals the egg to burst from the ovary
•LP: luteal phase; the phase of your cycle that begins just after ovulation and continues for 10-18 days, ending with the start of your next period; during the LP, your body continues to build up the lining of your uterus, and produce hormones which would support a pregnancy; this is the time when a fertilized egg can implant into the uterine lining
•NFP: Natural Family Planning; similar to FAM, but with abstinence during the fertile period
•O, Oing, Oed: ovulation, ovulating, or ovulated
•OPK: ovulation predictor kit; tests for presence of LH surge that usually precedes ovulation by 12-48 hours; these tests are quite expensive and not always accurate (if you take medication or depending on your age); these are optional when charting with FF, but if your fertility data is not clear it can bring more light and help interpret difficult cases
•OS: Ovusoft; charting software based on TCOYF
•PCOS: polycystic ovarian syndrome (a fertility problem)
•PG: pregnant
•PIAC: pee in a cup
•POAS: pee on a stick
•RE: reproductive endocrinologist
•SA: semen analysis
•SH: "sweet husband"
•SO: "significant other"
•SYS, SYL : See ya soon! or See ya later!
•TCOYF: Taking Charge Of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler; a book and website about charting and fertility.
•TMI: "too much information" - There is no such thing when TTC!
•TTA: "trying to avoid"
•TTC: "trying to conceive"
•TTFN: "ta-ta for now"
•TTYL, TTYS: "talk to you later" or "talk to you soon"

[Charting is Knowledge]

Resources borrowed from Still At It:

Abbreviations and acronyms
List of TTC & IF acronyms written out (http://womens-place.com/ttc/ttcacronyms.php)

HPT Sensitivity Comparison Charts
Fertility Plus (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hpt.html)
Pee On A Stick (http://www.peeonastick.com/hpts.html)
Mama's Ark (http://www.mamasark.com/hpt.htm)
Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com/pregnancy-test-sensitivity.html)
Remember, the hCG starts at 1 at implantation and increases as time goes on, so the smaller amount of hCG it measures, the more sensitive the test is!

Books
Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler, MPH (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060937645/qid=1041654042/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

The Fertility Sourcebook by M. Sara Rosenthal, PHD (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0737303808/qid=1042220393/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)

Inconceivable by Ben Elton (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385334656/qid=1041659461/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)
The movie "Maybe Baby" (below) is based on this book

Inconceivable: A Woman's Triumph Over Despair and Statistics
by Julia Indichova (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0767908201/qid=1059292613/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

The Infertility Diet: Get Pregnant & Prevent Miscarriage by Fern Reiss (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1893290395/qid=1059292976/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

Conquering Infertility: Dr. Domar's Mind/Body Guide to Enhancing
Fertility & Coping with Infertility by Alice Domar, Phd (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0670031550/qid=1059293116/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/103-2812959-1358247)


Girlfriend to Girlfriend: A Fertility Companion by Kristen Magnacca (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1588202135/qid=1082306449/sr=8-2/ref=pd_ka_2/104-9895052-8814318?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

Movies
Maybe Baby (2001) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000062XKW/qid=1041654127/sr=8-4/ref=sr_8_4/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=video&n=507846)

She's Having A Baby (1988) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6300988996/qid%3D1041654195/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-0287896-1655948)

Websites (by subject)

Charting
Ovusoft aka TCOYF (http://www.ovusoft.com/)
The site for Toni Weschler's book which includes message boards, chat and cycle galleries which are very helpful.

Fertility Friend (www.fertilityfriend.com)
A free charting site which includes a lot of information and cycle galleries.

Local Support
RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/chapters/resolvenearyou.jsp?name=chapters)
Nation-wide referrals to local support groups and therapists.

The American Infertility Association (http://www.americaninfertility.org)
Lots of information and support, including message boards and chat rooms.

Financial Concerns
ARC: Advanced Reproductive Care (http://www.arcfertility.com/)
information on financing infertility treatments

Family Fee Plan (http://www.amerifee.com/fertility-financing/index.asp)
information on financing infertility treatments

State Insurance Requirements (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/advocacy/insurance/index.jsp?name=advocacy&tag=insurance)
Links from the Resolve site about insurance & laws.

Inciid's Insurance pages (http://www.inciid.org/index.php)
Click through menu on right for more financial topics and the insurance forum.

General TTC
Trying To Conceive.com (http://www.tryingtoconceive.com/)
All things TTC! Lots of info as well as a place to buy herbal therapies for
conceiving.

Baby Med (http://www.babymed.com/)
Tons of information. Everything from Chinese gender charts to an FAQ section on pretty much any TTC question you could have.

Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com)
Baby makin' supplies!

OBGYN.net (http://www.obgyn.net/)
Lots of general info on women's health. They also have doctors on line who
answer questions.

Infertility Sites
INCIID (http://www.inciid.org/)
Pronounced "inside". (The International Council on Infertility Information Dissemination)
Excellent national resource.

Resolve (http://www.resolve.org)
Wonderful site with lots of infertility information and support.

I dream of baby (http://www.idreamofbaby.com/fertility.php)
Learn the basics of fertility issues here. This site also has a great message
board community!

Fertility Plus.org’s list of female hormone levels (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hormonelevels.html#female)
Starting your fertility work-up? Check out this site to see a list of the
commonly tested female hormone levels, the function of each hormone, and the normal levels of each hormone.

Shared Journey (http://www.sharedjourney.com)
Shared Journey is dedicated to providing quality information on topics such as
infertility, miscarriage, surrogacy, pregnancy after infertility, living
child-free, and adoption. Our information is supplied by well noted Reproductive
Endocrinologist's, Psychologists, Adoption professionals and links through
various sites.

FertileHeart (http://www.fertileheart.com)
A community of people exploring holistic approaches to fertility. A site by
author Julia Indichova (see books above)

Specific IF Issues
Soul Cysters (http://www.soulcysters.com)
PCOS site with lots of support and info

Dr. Beer (http://www.repro-med.net)
Reproductive Immunology information, including lists of tests, pricing, local referrals

Reproductive Immunology Support (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/immunologysupport/)
Yahoo group for RI patients, tons of info and articles

Info for Family and Friends
Empty Arms (http://www.vocalicious.com/empty_arms/empty_arms_mod.html)
This is a great video so they can understand what you're going through. (And get out your kleenex!)

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Please check to make sure that you are in the correct spot and all your information is correct. I know I missed a few updates, and I sincerely apologize!

Please post all updates in RED!

[Ericka_Jarett]

I'm here and ready for this to finally be the month for all of us :)

[Charting is Knowledge]

Please keep everyone affected by Hurricane Katrina in your prayers, especially the members or this thread, both current and past.

[UTChick]

I *just* posted in the other thread. I didn't even notice that this one was up and running. Thanks, Amanda!

My temp dropped again this morning so I didn't even test. I have had AF-like cramps off and on today, but no AF. Usually I get the cramps only an hour before AF, so I don't know what is going on. If my temp is low again tomorrow, I won't test unless AF doesn't show this weekend. I really did not like seeing that BFN yesterday! I think I would rather find out by AF showing than another BFN. Know what I mean?

[ellidew]

I'm here and ready for this to finally be the month for all of us :)

Hear hear! :D I hope we can all pack up and move on out of here! Here's to lots of BFP's!

Plus, i need to get off to a good start since the witch found me. Thank goodness for a weekend away with friends!

Please move me to Waiting to O ( BLEH!)

[spencer's_girl]

well i'm so far behind but i wanted to say congrats to all the BFP's that i have missed and i have finally got my chart online

now let's see if this works

my FF chart http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6f9cc
with all the stress lately my body is all messed up so i have no clue when i'll O still no second line on the OPK's but hopefully soon. I was hoping to be PG by my one year anniversary but that is only a week and a half away so it wont happen. Oh well maybe this cycle will be it.

melissa

[ds2003]

this must have been missed from the other thread

please move me to "Think I O'ed - Testing 9/12 - 9/18"

[ellidew]

I was hoping to be PG by my one year anniversary
At this point i am aiming for Christmas!

[Wrighty26]

Subscribing :) Can't miss a moment of this thread-- you never know what's going to happen!

[klav]

subscribing..
and counting down the min's till tomorrow do I test or wait till sat.... hummmm tought one we'll see by the afternoon. I was feeling really shitty this afternoon and I feel really parched can't get enough water. so hoping it's all signs ..... HOPE, hope, hope, hope, hopeing!!! ;)

[COLOR=Magenta]Yippie!!! :p :p a new thread a new month!! I can feel it IT's OUR MONTH!!! yippieee !!! :p :p

[bottleored]

Former member peeking her head in ......

I was a member for over a year over on the 'other side' and decided just to lurk at CC. I hope you'll add me to the 'Percolating' section for September. I got a second beta back, which is doubling. I'm taking that as a good sign.

Here's a link to my pg chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/44b0a)

I still have to change my siggie to PG Chart instead of TTC chart! It's still hard to believe.

Charting rocks!

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~BABY DUST*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

[ds2003]

congrats bottleored!!!

[kmmommy]

Thanks for the new thread Amanda!

I'm really hoping it happens for us soon. For those who didn't see it, I posted in the last thread that I've been having 35 day cycles. Sunday was CD 35 and I started spotting a little bit - only brown though. That continued until yesterday when I felt like I was going to be bleeding more so I used a tampon at work and still had hardly anything after 5 hours or so. Again, mostly brown. Have had a tiny bit of red in there, but it's watery compared to my usual so I'm just waiting to test. Will probably do so this weekend. I didn't temp this month and didn't watch my CM so it would be pretty surprising if I'm pg. Plus, I would be due 19 days before my sister's wedding! :eek: :eek:

Also, I've got a nasty cold. Yuck! But, I had my worst cold ever the week after I found out I was pg with Kaeden! Hopefully it's not just a coincidence!

[gymwidow]

bottleored, congrats!!!

polkadot, I'll be thinking of you. A good friend of mine has family in N.O. and they lost their homes to a broken levee. Both her parents' houses and her sister's. I hope that you're able to get back to your home and start rebuilding your life soon.

Not much to report here. I had my u/s this morning, but didn't learn anything. The tech just took the "pictures" and said she'd give them to the doc and that the doc would review them and call me. I still have my appt. on the 20th to go over everything, and I guess have the biopsy if need be.

A friend of mine told me today that she also spots randomly, and she had no problem conceiving her son. Another reassurance that makes me feel better. :)

And I *think* I might've O'd yesterday. My temp inched up to 97.8, which is higher than the last 3 days (97.2, 97.4, 97.4), but only a smidge higher than the 97.7 I've had 5 days this cycle. I'll see what the next couple of days say. If it was O day, then it was CD22, which is only 2 days later than last month's CD20. I hope it was! DH and I BD'd Tuesday night, but not last night, and we will tonight just in case.

Wanna hear something weird? I've been spotting since Friday 8/19. Every day, except yesterday. I didn't spot at all, except for that bit of red in the CM I checked internally, but nothing on the pantiliner or tp (sorry if TMI). Anyway, I started spotting again today. Wouldn't it be weird if the ONLY day I didn't spot was O day? Kinda like things working reverse. :rolleyes:

[Mystikal]

Threadmistress, please move me to "Waiting to O, Testing 9/5-9/11"

bottleored congratulations!!!! I am so freakin' happy for you! :D H&H pregnancy to you!
kaeden's mommy good luck! I'm hoping this is it!

As for me, I'm currently 7dpo and not really feeling any FPS. I keep telling myself that this mont isn't it, plus there's a possiblity that I didn't O on CD17 like my chart says (we had the bedroom window closed from CD18-CD20 and it was warmer in the house...I still don't think it would be warm enough to cause a thermal shift, though) and instead O'ed on CD22, and that would only put me at 2dpo so I obviously wouldn't be feeling any FPS yet. Oh, well, we shall see...

[jodylovesscotty]

Checkin' in :)

AF left the building, so now the waiting to O begins. I think I am going to just chart until O then quit. After 9 months I think I just need to relax a bit more about it (not obsess) and since I know when I usually O, there isn't much more I can do.

Anyway.....
Threadmistress~ Please move me to waiting to O. Thanks

[flygirl]

Congrats, Bottleored!!

Mystical, it's hard to tell, but based on your CM, I think CD22 or 23 is more likely.

gymwidow, I'm glad the u/s was a breeze; I hope the results are just as easy! A temp jump like you explained sounds like an O, so long as your CM coincides.

Klav, Good luck!!!!!!!!!

UTChick, I'm hoping, hoping, hoping for you!

KM: You're sounding pretty good :). The cold PS seems to be more & more common ;)

I *know* I'm forgetting more from the other thread, but duty calls. Good luck everyone!

[kmmommy]

I'm seeing a little more blood, but still not really AF like. I'm almost scared to test. I don't want to be let down even though we weren't trying. Do you guys think I have a chance?

[ptcrn]

New member here!

Me: Jen/29 (30 at the end of the month! :eek: )
DH: Gerry/29
Married since: July 30th 2005
Off BCP since: August 14th 2005
TTC and Charting since: August 14th 2005
Known issues/test results: None so far!
Current status: waiting to O, testing 9/5 to 9/11

I hope its okay to join, even though I'm already in the 2WW! This is all so new to me- just when I think I have charting somewhat figured out, I'm wrong!

I'm so confused by FF- reading the rules about coverlines in TCOYF, I would have placed my CL at 97.6, but FF put it at 97.2- what do you guys think? I'm also not convinced of the O date they gave me. I thought it was CD 14. But like I said- I'm confused!

I guess we'll see! This is our first cycle charting/TTC anyway, so I'd be blown away if it happened so quick!

[UTChick]

Kaeden's Mommy~I personally don't think it is over until AF shows up hard core. Of course, I tend to use this line of thinking with everyone but myself. :rolleyes: I understand about not wanting to test in fear of seeing another BFN. That is exactly what I am going through right now. Good luck! By the way, I am digging your status of "Queen of the Cool." ;)

flygirl~Thanks. I am trying to keep a balance of hoping a little but also being prepared for a let down. You can appreciate this one...we just got home from the Cowboy game (we left during the 2nd quarter) and I immediately got on the computer to look at my FF chart. I called for DH to come into the office by saying, "Hey Baby, come here for a minute" and this was the reply I got, "I'm NOT going to come look at your chart AGAIN." :o I'm *that* obviously obsessive and annoying now. :rolleyes:

[UTChick]

Welcome Jen! Don't worry - FF confuses me all the time and I often disagree with it as well. However, I think FF might be right on your O date of CD12. But what do I know? Like I said, I get confused by it, too. :)

[gator97]

Welcome toptcrn

Thanks for the new thread, Threadmistress! When you get the chance, can you update my stats: Known issues: dx endometriosis/ adenomyosis 8/05 laparoscopy 8/26/05

Thanks!

[amurphy]

Congratulations bottleored! It is always nice to hear good news from a charter! Enjoy your pregnancy!

Just popping in late Thursday night before bed. My newly PG friend that I told you all about at the beginning of the week is miscarrying. I feel so sad for her. I can't even put into words my sadness, frustration, sympathy. It just sucks. Sorry to only drop off bad news....

Threadmistress, you missed my update on the last thread. When you have a second, could you please update my stats to "Think I O'ed - Testing 9/5 - 9/11." Thank you!! :D

[Sabriel]

Congrats bottleored!!! :D And yay for a new thread!

Welcome ptrcn! Actually, for once I think FF is right. It looks like you Oed on CD12 based on the temps you have. What is the open circle on CD 12? If that temp is off, O may have been on a different day. Looks like you have covered your bases though!

Kaeden's Mommy Crossing my fingers that AF stays away!

jodylovesscotty I'm right there with you on the waiting. Hopefully we don't have to wait too long!

Mystikal I hope this cycle is it for you!

gymwidow Hope you get your US results soon and that they are good news. It does sound like you may have Oed, but you'll know for sure after the next couple of temps. Have you had any EWCM?

[klav]

14 DPO so I will be testing tomarrow as long as AF does not show today!! :D

[Dotsie]

Hello all. Can I join? I charted when I got pg with my DS and we're starting TTC this month. I am going to start temping tomorrow. I am due for AF on Monday, Sept 5th.

Me Dorothy 30
DH Sean 34
Married 10/27/01
DS Aidan 6/27/03
TTC #2 9/2005

[mkvh]

Mornin' all! Wow, lots going on so quickly...page 4 already. A weak attempt at SOs...


Welcome ptcrn (Jen) and Dotsie!!! You will be thrilled with how supportive and knowledgeable these ladies are.

CONGRATS bottleored!!!!! Wow...I lurk in the SAI thread, and what a great birthday blessing!

I am STILL crossed for klav, UTChick, and KM!!! You ladies have MUCH more willpower than I!

gator: So sorry to hear about your dx. Hopefully you get some positive news from your drs. about moving forward.

Mystikal: Lookin' good, lady! I was reading some old "What were your symptoms?" threads, and there were several ladies who said that the ONLY cycle they didn't have FPS symptoms they were actually pg!

Erika: Get it on!

jody/: Sending patient vibes your way...hope O comes quickly!

gymwidow: Fingers crossed that it WAS an O...and if it was, your body is officially silly! Out damn spot!

Hi to Sabriel & flygirl
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Whew! That was HARD WORK! Not as hard as BDing for 9 days straight, but still.. ;)

Me: Depending upon which detector one chooses to believe (or if you choose to listen to illstrious members of our thread, I am 8, 9, or 10 DPO. Temp held steady from yesterday (yay!) but could have been skewed by the fact that our noisy puppy woke me up 2 hours before temp time and I closed the bedroom door. Not sure how much that would affect me personally. Still feeling crampy, still have creamy CM. Last month, my temp took a nosedive on what FF says was 8 DPO, so I'm feeling a little hopeful!

Since by all accounts, AF is due tomorrow (I had a 9 day LP last cycle), Threadmistresses, please move me to "Think I O'd--Testing 8/29-9/4". I know that I could get a BFN, but that's not going to be that big of a let down, although DH seems to think it would be. We shall see!

And Amanda, THANK YOU for the lovely new thread!

[Lizard]

Congrats bottleored!!! :D :D And welcome to Jen and Dotsie!!

Nothing to report here, just subscribing to the new thread. I hope we see lots of BFP's over the long weekend!

[cat_loverpq]

Yay, a new thread!! Wishing lots of sticky luck to everyone this month! CD15 here, should be Oing around Monday/Tuesday. :)

Good luck to everyone testing this weekend!! :D

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here!

Congratulations Bottleored!!! Super duper happy for you!! :D

Welcome to the newbies!

Sorry to all those AF found.

Good luck to all those testing!

[Ericka_Jarett]

I should be Oing between today and Monday according to past charts. Took an OPK yesterday and got a skinnytest line that was a little lighter than the test line. Took another today and it was almost the same shade if not a drop darker than the reference line. These stupid OPK's are so hard to read sometimes. Now I know why I didn't use them last month.

Bought the OPK's yesterday and the guy at the register didn't say anything until he rang the coupon up. He said wow til 2010, they sure want you to keep trying huh? You have another 4 yrs to go trying to get pregnant. Said I don't have that long I hope to have all my kids by then since I am already 31. He said your still young. I said well I have a daughter but she passed away and he said he was sorry to hear that. He said well your further along than I am with kids, I have none. He was a nice guy

[Baby Lust]

Hoping for good news in the next couple of days! :D I started lightly spotting last night, and I am spotting again today so I am hoping for AF very soon so we can get the show on the road!! :D

Have a wonderful Friday and a spectacular long weekend!


And to anyone recovering from the hurricane, you are in my daily thoughts and prayers. If there is anything I can do for you or send you or help you with, please please please let me know! I will do everything I can to help out! {{{HUGS}}}

[Sabriel]

Ericka_Jarett Great story! Glad that the guy was nice about it though.

mkvh Your chart is still looking good! Hope to hear good news from you soon!

Dotsie Welcome! Hope your stay is short but sweet.

klav You chart is also looking great! I really hope this is it for you. Stay away AF!!!

amurphy I am so so sorry to hear about your friend. I hope she is doing okay.

CD 5 for me and I have more EWCM today than I have ever seen! Seems early, but I guess the BD fest starts today.

[ShelbyMay]

Woke up this morning to spotting (pink-tinged CM, really). I could try to tell myself that it's not really AF, but combined with my big temp drop, who would I be kidding? :(

I do think that God has a pretty twisted sense of humor sometimes. I mean, my cycles usually have a delayed O, short LP, and only cramping right before AF -- Oh, and no spotting, just straight into AF. This cycle has a more "normal" O, long LP, and cramping on 3 different days -- but no cramping now that I am spotting. :rolleyes:

Next time, I am only temping until I have a confirmed O, then I am putting the thermometer away. And I'm not taking any pregnancy tests unless I get to 18dpo. The "fun" has really gone out of it at this point.

Good luck to those still testing...

[ShelbyMay]

I'm a dumbass. Those are OPKs, right? I thought they were pregnancy tests at first! :eek:

[klav]

bottom one is definately darker!! hopeing for the best!!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Ericka, That second test is definitely positive!! BD, BD, BD!! :D

[ptcrn]

Welcome ptrcn! Actually, for once I think FF is right. It looks like you Oed on CD12 based on the temps you have. What is the open circle on CD 12? If that temp is off, O may have been on a different day. Looks like you have covered your bases though!
Thanks to everyone for the welcome!

Sabriel, the open circle was because I temped 3 1/2 hrs early that day due to my work schedule. So that one definitely may be off, it would be more like 97.7, right? So in that case, maybe I O'd earlier?? I'm not really sure. We did BD a lot though, just in case! ;)

UTChick - Thanks for the support! It's good to know that I'm not the only one who gets confused by this stuff! Maybe once I've charted a few more cycles it will get easier to tell what's normal for me.

[Sabriel]

ptcrn Yeah, in that case you may have Oed the day before. Either way you definitely covered it!

Ericka_Jarett Looks like a + OPK to me!

[Ericka_Jarett]

Thanks so much ladies. That's ok Shelby. Hoping I get a HPT that looks as dark as my OPK in the very near future.

[mkvh]

Ericka: Keep misspelling your name...I feel like such a dork! That definintely looks like a + to me. Go find your hubby!!

ptcrn: I think we're ALL confused by FF more often than not. I agree that that open circle could mean that you O'D earlier. But as sabriel said, you're covered, so that's all good. And keeping the later O date will make you less tempted to test as early. Maybe!

shelby: You know what they say...it ain't over till... But sorry for the spotting and temp drop..boo!

sabriel: Why thank you! Picture the open circles .2 higher, and it looks even better... :D

babylust: Yay! Onto the next Clomid cycle, right?? Get the show on the road FOR SURE!

Hope I got everyone...where the heck is jnshanna? I thought she would be back by now! If she's pullin' and hbeshore on us, disappearing with such a PRETTY chart, I'm gonna be cranky!

[Ericka_Jarett]

That's ok mkvh about my spelling. Lots of people do that.

Hubby is so funny, keeps telling me to keep my legs closed and won't let me get up for 30 mins afterwards. He is really wanting us to get pregnant again soon. So happy he is thinking like me.

[Dotsie]

Thank you everyone for the warm welcome. I haven't even started yet and already I am obsessing :D I went to Dollar Tree today and bought some OPK's. I am also planning on charting as of tomorrow morning. Not to sound like a complete dork, but how exactly do OPK's work? I mean, I know HOW they work, but when do you start using them? When you get EWCM?

[Ericka_Jarett]

Dotsie,

Check the leaflet and see if they say the days to start to use them. My cycle is usually 33-34 days so I am to test starting at 16 or 17 days past my period. not sure about the Dollar Tree ones, but I know with the Answer brand once the test line is darker than the reference line, you can stop testing cause O happened. If you only get a reference line, you haven't had an LH surge.

These sites are really informative: http://www.babycentre.co.uk/general/536347.html
http://www.fertilitext.org/p1-101/most_fertile.html

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here

Congratulations to Angela! :D

[kmmommy]

Congrats Angela! H&H 9 months to you!

[Baby Lust]

CD1! :D

[ABirney]

Well AF showed up today. Light but definitely there. So much for the risk-taking this past cycle! We have decided to stay TTA for now until we are sure there is a house in the near future. (Talking to the bank next week to get pre-qualified!!!) Hopefully I'll be back soon!! Thank you for all your help and support these past few days and good luck and lots of baby dust to all of you!!!

[Mystikal]

I don't mean to be a pain, but my update was missed in the last thread and earlier this thread. I know you're uber-busy, but THREADMISTRESS can you please move me to "I think I O'ed testing 9/5-9/11? Thanks!

:D:D

[Mystikal]

There sure are some purdy looking charts out there!! My temp took a nosedive this morning, but I'm only 8dpo, so I'm hoping it's implantation. We'll see. I'm wondering if the reason I've had so much EWCM is because I've been drinking tons and tons of water recently. I really upped my intake and I am curious as to whether or not that can cause EWCM? I know if you're well-hydrated you will have better quality CM, but I thought you typically dried up after O. Hmmm...

[UTChick]

Real quick drive-by post. Will do SO's later. Still no AF and cramps from yesterday went away. Will test again tomorrow morning. I'll catch up on everyone later. Have a good Friday night!

[klav]

so far so good no AF so I'l be testing in the Am unless she shows up inn the AM....

rolling in the dust!!! :D :D

[ds2003]

Threadmistress, please updated my data:

Test results: DH's SA-normal; HSG 1/14/05-normal;
-->Ovarian Drilling 5/20/05- I'm finally ovulating
Meds: Currently taking 1500mg Metformin and 5mg Femara/letrazole;
3 failed Clomid cycles before Ovarian Drilling (50, 100, 150 mg)

[klav]

OK it' s 7am I was woken up by my cat's wanting to be fed.... and took a test BFN can they be wrong? No AF??? :confused:

[amurphy]

Klav: Wait another couple days and test again if AF doesn't show. Remember, as long as AF stays away, there is still hope for that cycle! Good luck!

UTChick Forgot to chart-stalk everyone before doing my replies! Hope you got that BFP this morning. Fingers crossed!

Mystical: Your testing day is fast approaching. Hope your temp recovers from that (implantation?) dip!

[B]abirney! Take care and defintely come back to the thread when you are TTCing again. I'm sure it will still be filled with really supportive women.

Ericka: That second test was much darker. Good luck!

mvkh: Nice lookin' chart!!

Sorry for everyone I missed....hope you all are doing well! (It is so hard to keep up with this thread). Just as I thought it would, FF moved my O date from CD14 to CD15 this morning, which I suppose is no big deal. I temped 40 minutes later than normal and my temp jumped .4 degrees. I'm sure it wouldn't have been that high if I temped at my normal time, but any jump works for me!

Enjoy your weekend, everyone! My family is coming into town this morning and staying through Monday. I'm going to be busy....but not the kinda busy that we talk about here. ;) (I crack myself up sometimes.)

[Ericka_Jarett]

Hi all,

Took another OPK today and the test line showed even before the reference line. I marked it as a positive, I looked back over the WC thread on OPK's and all listed looked like mine and were positive. Either I O'd yesterday or will today or will tomorrow. The kit says if the test line is darker you don't need to test again this cycle.

[Mystikal]

ds2003 ovarian drilling? That souns scary!! At least you are ovulating now! Here's hoping you get your BFP soon!!
klav it looks like you are taking progesterone supplements? I know there have been some girls that didn't have AF show until they stopped the supplements. Either way I hope you get an answer soon. If you're still testing BFN on Monday I would see about a blood test from the doctors!! GL!
amurphy my temp went up a bit this morning, but I think it should have been higher. The window was open in my bedroom and I my allergies were acting up so I was breathing through my mouth. I think I'm just going to stop temping. If AF isn't here by Tuesday or Wednesday I'll test then. Have fun with your family!
Ericka I'm sorry, I can't help you with your OPK questions, but I hope you get a BFP very soon!!!

Okay, so my temp went up .3 degrees from my drop yesterday. I think it should have gone higher, but my window was open and it was chilly, and my allergies were acting up so I was breathing through my mouth. This is getting crazy. I think I'll just stop temping and then test on Wednesday or somewhere around there if AF hasn't shown yet. (I am doing a pretty good job of not obsessing, though!)

[ds2003]

Ericka - it all depends on which line is darker. I wouldn't read too much into which one showed up first.

Mystika. - OD wasn't bad. There is just the pain from a laprascopy and the throughts of what actually happened. I have pics from the surgery and it doesn't look that bad.

[kmmommy]

I took an HPT last night and got a BFN. However, the control line was way darker than the negative line (Equate test). Anyone know if it makes a difference on a pg test?

[ds2003]

Kaeden - On a PG test, a line is a line. Congratulations!!

[Mystikal]

POST A PIC, POST A PIC!!! ;)

[kmmommy]

Oops...

Don't think I made myself very clear. On the equate test you have to have a + in the window. I had a - (not pg) but it was pretty light.

The reason I ask is that I've been spotting (sometimes heavily) since last Sunday. AF is usually here for 5 days max. Plus, no AF cramps this month, breasts didn't feel like usual before AF, no low back pain, etc. I actually feel great except for this damn cold!

Thanks!

[ds2003]

I didn't know equate had a +- test. The horizontal line in the test window is probably just a blue strip that was possibly visible even before you tested (i read that somewhere). It's the vertical line that you want to look see.

i think the equate test with the purple cap is the on most people use. I believe it more sensitive and it is not + - so a line is a line.

[kmmommy]

Equate must have just changed that because last time I bought them it was just a line not a +. Anyway, I tested at night (I'm impatient) so I will wait a couple more days and test again.

Just weird to not really have AF like I usually do, but not know whether to count spotting as AF or not since it's all brown.

[ds2003]

GL on testing in a couple days. I really hope Equate hasn't changed their test to + -.

[kmmommy]

DH bought the one with the purple cap and that's what it was. It sucks.

[Soulmate]

Just jumping in to say that yes Equate has changed to + or -. I hate it because the +/- tests out there now suck in reliability. Now in my mind I don't trust equate as much even though I am sure they are just as good as before.

[UTChick]

Ok...I have a lot of catching up to do.

ds2003~So glad to hear you are ovulating! Hopefully that BFP is just around the corner.

klav~Wait a couple of days and test again. As long as AF isn't here, there is still a chance.

Ericka_Jarett~Catch that egg!!! :D

amurphy~Whatever the O date was, it looks like you had your bases covered. Good luck. Have fun with the family.

Mystikal~I always admire the people who don't temp during 2ww. I can't seem to resist the urge to temp. :rolleyes: Good luck!

KM~I hear that Equate changed their test as well. The pack I used this week was still the old kind. I hear you have to hunt around to find them.

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Well...BFN again this morning. I think it was Amanda who said a week or so ago that she thought maybe I had O'ed on CD30 due to the missing temp. Maybe that is it. Still no AF, no cramps, no spotting, but no BFP. This is starting to annoy me. And get this...I got two phone calls this morning, one from my mom and the other from my MIL, both saying they 'heard' I might be pg and was testing today. Wonder where they heard that! :rolleyes: After telling both of them that it was a BFN this morning, DH and I had to have a little talk. ;) I know he is just so excited, but there are some things I want to keep between us and when I take a HPT is one of those things! Gotta love him, though.

[kmmommy]

UT ~ Sorry for the BFN this morning. Sweet that your DH is excited, but getting phone calls with eager moms is never good.

Have a great weekend!

[Ericka_Jarett]

Should have clarified, the test line was darker than the reference line

[ds2003]

Ericka, it is a positive OPK if the test line is as dark or darker than the reference.

[UTChick]

I keep getting the "feeling" that AF has shown up, but when I go to the bathroom there is just watery/creamy CM. I have not paid close attention to CM in past cycles, so does this normally happen right before AF? My body has become a riddle that I can't figure out.

[Sabriel]

UTChick That usually happens to me before AF. I get that "feeling", but then it ends up to be CM. Sorry about the BFN and about the mom calls. I would hate to have to explain that to them.

CD 6 for me. We BDed last night because of the EWCM I had, but I think it is way too early. Oh well. :rolleyes:

[UTChick]

Thanks for the info.

I found out that DH actually told my DAD, not my mom that I was going to test today. In a way, it made me smile knowing that DH feels that close to my dad to share this kind of info with him, especially since DH's father passed away when he was so young. And it was also cool to hear how excited my dad was. But this kind of info leak will NOT happen again.

[Baby Lust]

Hi ladies! Just dropping by to read up!

Sorry there are so many BFNs out there! :rolleyes: Those suck big time!! Hopefully they will turn into BFPs very soon!

Oh, and ITA with Soulmate on the new Equates! :mad: I had no idea they changed! That sucks!
Hi Soulmate! :D


Off to update! So sorry Mystikal about missing you twice! :o My bad!!

[Mystikal]

I forgive you Amanda!! :) I know you're busy.

So, I bought a two pack of equates today. Yup, they have the +/- sign instead of two lines. :mad: That sucks. Bah!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here!

[klav]

Mystikal I have to take the progetserone until AF that is what the DR. said?

This is my second cycle with clomid, estrodil and progesterone... so not sue if because it's the second time that my body is now reacting to it? the chart the dr gave me say's to keep taking it until the dr say's to stop if you become pregnant..... so.. still taking it...
I'm hoping for the best and everytime I go to the bathroom I expect to see red but that has been a BFN also...
I took one of the first response test.... they are all clear plastic... so wondered if I got a bumm one?? LOL I hope I did???
I'll keep you all updated as soon as AF or a BFP comes up :(

[Ilovemygeek]

Threadmistress- Could you please change me to "Think I O'ed - Testing 9/12 - 9/18"?

My temp jump is not very big, but I think I might have actually O'ed. FF put crosshairs on CD 38, but it might have been a little sooner based on temps or later based on CM. Who knows? :rolleyes:

[klav]

day 30 and still no sign of AF... I have not taken another test . I don't see why? :confused: this is really weird it has never been this long.... I'm usually 28 day's ....hummm so I sit and wait? :confused:

I hope everyone has a nice Labor Day Weekend!!

[ds2003]

klav - sorry you have no bfp and no af. have you ever had an ocassional cycle over 28 days? if you have no af by tuesday i suggest getting a blood test for hcg and progesterone.

[UTChick]

AF showed this morning, so Threadmistress, please move me to waiting to O. Thanks.

[kmmommy]

Sorry UTChick.

I'm still spotting - day 8 of spotting brown. I'm waiting to test for another couple days.

[Wrighty26]

Sorry klav on the BFN....fingers crossed that you figure something out!

Also sorry UTChick for AF :( My DH is on the strictest orders not to tell anyone anything about TTC... because I can totally see him telling his parents. It is cute that your hubby feels close enough to your dad to share information like that...

As for me, I'm on CD 13-- and still waiting to O. My OPKs have been getting slightly darker (which has never happened for me before). My hubby is SO over the BDing :D but he knows it's for a good cause! I'm hoping my temp drop today is a pre-O dip... that would be nice :)

Hope everyone is having a great Labor Day weekend!

[ds2003]

UTChick sorry AF found you

[jesseybell]

New Member Here

Me: Jessie/ just turned 35
DH: Dan/ just turned 33
Married Since: May 21, 2005
Off BCP Since: July 5, 2005
Charting since: August 10, 2005
Known issues: Diagnosed with endometriosis at age 19, DES Daughter
Status: Waiting to O? Probably just wacky post-Pill cycle


I am a newbie here. DH and I just got married 3+ months ago, but with my age and potential issues, we went off the pill in July (my doctor had originally wanted me to in May- right before the wedding, I don't think so!).

I had gone off the Pill 3 years ago because I was planning on having a baby on my own, but then DH and I started dating. Back then my period didn't come for 4 months (coicindentally (or maybe not) it came 2 weeks exactly after DH and I first 'hooked up').

So I didn't know when my period would come. It came 36 days later. I immediately started temping and I bought a fertility monitor (lots of $ but worth it, I guess). I started testing on day 6 and didn't get a high level until day 21. I had 4 days of highs and this morning it was low. Don't know if it was due to my going to bed a 2 am last night. I sware I think I had eggwhite CM yesterday, but I am still trying to get the hang of CM. So we'll BD today and then see what happens.

I've been temping everyday but not at highly consistent times and I think because I've been thinking about it too much I haven't been asleep for the recommended 3 hours prior to doing it.

[Wrighty26]

Welcome Jessie! Hopefully your stay here will be short, and sweet!

I just wanted to come back in and report that I FINALLY know what a positive OPK looks like :) It's so nice just to be on track for once!

[kmmommy]

Welcome Jessie! Glad to have you here. Hopefully you're gone quickly!!

[mkvh]

Hey all! No time for SOs...been temping at my regular time this weekend (6 am), and with an adjustment, my last FOUR temps have all been the same! Sometimes flat temps are a good thing! BUT...I tested yesterday w/ FMU and BFN. Totally considering it a neutral though as I could have Od anywhere from CD13-15, the latest of which only makes AF due today. BBs are REALLY sore...hurt to take off my bra last night, and I felt REALLY weird yesterday. Lightheaded, nauseous...DH was worried. But then he said, "Don't take this the wrong way, but I really hope you do feel bad!" He's too cute.

I was going to test again tomorrow (11/12/13 DPO), but I think I'm going to wait. Didn't think I would be that bummed about a BFN!

I'll do proper SOs on Tuesday, I promise! HAPPY LABOR DAY!

[kmmommy]

Oooh, good luck mkvh!! Fingers crossed for you!

[Mystikal]

Welcome Jessie! I hope your stay is short!!
klav I would definitely check with your dr about AF. Hope you get an answer soon.

As for me, I'm starting to doubt whether or not I actually O'ed. My temp is back below CL today, I have no CM (although I had tons and tons of creamy last night), and no spotting. *sigh* I have been charting since October, 2003 and I have never had an annovulatory cycle. It would figure that my first would have to be when we were TTC. I'm going to wait a couple more days and if my temp doesn't go up I guess I'll have to be moved to the "what the beep is going on" category. :(

[Soulmate]

Wanting to pop in again for KlavThis is my second cycle with clomid, estrodil and progesterone... so not sue if because it's the second time that my body is now reacting to it? the chart the dr gave me say's to keep taking it until the dr say's to stop if you become pregnant..... so.. still taking it... Many people will not get AF until you stop taking the progesterone (if it is suppositories). Your doctor *should* do a beta at 14DPO and if negative you would stop the progesterone and AF would come about 1-2 days later. I would say if you are getting BFNs at this point stop taking the progesterone. If you wait long enough AF will come but I think your sanity would be shot.

[nuhmah]

AF showed up this morning - that is ok, it was my first cycle off BCP, and my cramps are horrible. We really weren't trying to get preg. on this try - I am a teacher, and while it sounds silly, we are hoping for a summer baby (but will take what we can get!!!).

This was my first cycle charting, and I was really bad about doing my temps in the morning. Actually, I was really good until we moved, got a puppy, and am now waking at different times than usual (because my summer is now over), so I will try to be better on this cycle.

So, I was never moved from "Waiting to O', and that is where I am now! :)

[klav]

Soulmate sence it's the long weekend and no one will be answering the phone if I call my dr should I just stop on my own? and give her (DR)a call on tuesday? Although I'm going to my DH aunts house and she's a registered nurse and can ask her advice. yes they are suppositories, 8mg
ds2003 the only time I had a cycle longer than 28 day's was a 29 day right after a MC so I think my body was trying to readjust.
So I have nothing yet and was going to test again on Tuesday but I'm going to talk w/ my aunt and see what she say's and stop taking Progesterone tonight i just took another dose before I logged on... so keep ya posted

[Dotsie]

Threadmistress, please update my status as waiting to O. Thanks so much. I am due for AF tomorrow and I know I am not pg.

[jnshanna]

I'm back from vacation and just checking in. :) I'm still trying to read everything. You ladies have been busy!

The witch showed and I'm on CD3 so could you please change me to waiting to O, threadmistress? Thank you! :)

[flygirl]

Thank goodness I'm not the only one having trouble keeping up.

jnshanna, I'm sorry about the witch. I hope you were still able to have a nice vacation!

Dotsie, bummer :(.

klav, I'm not an expert on taking progesterone, but I wouldn't stop taking it until you've spoken with your Dr. Tomorrow is day 14 of taking it, which is about the right amount of time. Stopping it too early could interfere with maintaining an implanted eggie.

nuhmah, I'm sorry the cramps are so horrible. But at least now you can REALLY get started. :D

Mystikal, I don't think you've O'd yet. And I don't think it's an anovulatory cycle, either :). On your last chart there are about 5 days of higher, disregarded temps right before O. It looks like a classic delayed O. This cycle looks almost identical. It could be stress, or it could be that it's your normal pattern. I wouldn't stress quite yet, & I defnitely wouldn't stop BD'ing ;).

mkvh, I think it's much more likely you O'd on CD15, & since this is only your second cycle, you don't really know your average LP. It was probably too early to test yesterday. So my fingers are crossed for you!

Go enjoy all the BDing, Wrighty!

Welcome & good luck, Jessie! I hope your stay is short!

KM, I can only imagine how stressful the spotting is! *fingers crossed*

UTChick, :(. Hang in there.


OK. I think the last time I posted I said I'd give my left arm to O early, since we didn't know how long DH would be home. Well, he's still home, & I think I'm going to O a day or two early. Except HE'S SICK!!!! :mad: Really sick. No-BD'ing sick. I can't believe this. Now I'd give my left arm for him to stop hurting so much. Please keep him in your thoughts & prayers.

[jnshanna]

Congrats to Caroline! I'm so happy for you. It must be meant to be. :)

[jnshanna]

I'm still reading the other thread....

Polkadot ~ My thoughts are with you. I can't imagine what you must be going through. {{{ Hugs }}}

[gymwidow]

Hi ladies. Sorry for no shout-outs, but I have read along and am finally caught up. Today is CD26 for me and I don't think I've O'd and am basically givng up on this cycle. My temp went down again on Friday and Saturday and I didn't even bother waking up at my usual time today to take it. Trying to figure out what's going on with me is tiring and frustrating and I think I'm just going to wait now and see what the doc says when she calls me back. DH and I are continuing to BD every other night, so maybe hopefully something might happen, but in the meantime, no more obsessing for me. We're having a fun long weekend and I just want to focus on having a good time!

[jnshanna]

Congrats bottleored! :D

Welcome ptcrn! 30 is creeping up on me too. Scary! :eek:

Welcome to Dotsie and jesseybell too!

LOL mkvh. I wouldn't do that to you. If I was pg I would be running here to let you all know. ;)

I've read everything now but a bit overwhelmed. :o Good luck to those of you getting ready to test and I hope O comes soon for those of you waiting. And I'm sorry for those that are in the same boat as me and the witch found them. :(

[Soulmate]

klav I too would wait to talk to your dr. You should have a beta done to make sure you are not pregnant before you stop. I just wanted to pass that info along just so you were not getting too frustrated with BFNs. If you are getting BFNs now you are most likely not pregnant and it is the progesterone that is keeping AF at bay and your temps so high. Stranger things have happened but it is not the norm.

[babylove]

What I've been up to (well, not relaxinging and taking my mind off TTC, that's for sure!):
So much for "taking some time to chill out"....Last cycle was a mess. I tried to be "laid back" by taking yoga. Didn't help. I stopped temping, except for right around O...which NEVER HAPPENED. So that meant I temped for WEEKS on end, getting all caught up in the highs and lows, my mood being determined by what a little plastic piece of equipment told me each morning. :rolleyes: Not to mention, I was convinced that if we stopped BD'ing, O would come, so what did we do? We BD'd TWENTY (yes, you read that correctly) times. Two zero. 20. Ouch. Eventually, I called my dr and said "enough!" (to make matters worse, I knew that if I wasn't pg, we were moving on to clomid next cycle and time seemed to be s.t.a.n.d.i.n.g. s.t.i.l.l.) He prescribed prometrium (oral progesterone) to bring on AF, since it wasn't happening naturally. I took the prometrium for 10 days (finishing on Thurs night) and today AF arrived. I've never been so happy to see that b!tch. :p And I'm not even upset about not being pg (ok, maybe a little, but I'm ignoring that so it will go away).

On to CLOMID:
My dr and I decided that because my cycles are screwy and I either O really late or not at all (that happened for the first time ever this cycle), it's time for clomid. He truly believes that if I gave it time, I could get pg without help, but the stress and anxiety was just too much for me. So, I am graciously accepting some "help". I have to call my dr on Tuesday, but I think I will start it on CD5. I also learned that I have an estrogen deficiency, so it looks like I will need some help there too (or maybe not? I have no idea.).

Anyway, Threadmistress, can you please move me to "Waiting to O", as well as update my info by adding Clomid 50mg and estrogen deficiency as a known issue. Thanks!

***

klav ~ Definitely keep taking the progesterone until you either get AF or you have a BFP. Being on progesterone will usually make your LP longer than usual (at least that's what I use it for) and can also give you artificially high temps. It's possible that you could get AF on your own (while still using the prog supps) or that you won't get AF until you stop using it. I have been in both situations. Can I ask, what are you taking the estrodil for? I have low estrogen and my dr mentioned something about taking estrogen supps too...just wondering if you have the same problem.

Congrats to the BFPs in my absence!

[Wrighty26]

Babylove- your post cracked me up. 20 times? Holy geez. Your DH is a trooper :) I, sadly, don't think I could convince my DH that 20 times was necessary... I wish you the best of luck and I definitely hope Clomid works for you!

[Ericka_Jarett]

babylove,

You still have me beat, by the time we are done will be about 15 times. Had we done everyday since AF stopped, we would be at 20 when all was said and done as of Tuesday.

[kmmommy]

Welcome back Babylove! Sorry it was a rough month. Hopefully all will be well now that you're on Clomid. My fingers are crossed for you.

And 20 times?! Wow! Your DH better not complain about not getting any for a loooonnnnngggg time!! :D

[Wrighty26]

Happy Labor Day!

I am 90% sure I am ovulating today. I woke up with definite pains on my right side, sore bbs (this is generally an O symptom for me) and EWCM. I tried to convince my hubby that we needed to BD again before he left for work...but he said he didn't have time :( Wah. He works at a furniture store-- and had to open it for the cleaning lady. Damn holiday sales!!! :rolleyes:

The plan is that I'm jumping him right when he gets home from work. I hate having to time this! My brother and I are hanging out today- we're going to a BBQ this afternoon, and it's really hard to get him to leave once he's here. He's also planning on watching the FSU/Miami game with us tonight. Soooo... I have no idea what I'm going to tell him. "Get out so Dan and I can get it on" would probably be a little TMI :)

Question-- What is the general time window on ovulating?? I may have to go read TCOYF again...

Hope everyone has a great day!

[ds2003]

Michelle, I not sure if I understand your question. The egg lives for 12-24 hours after ovulation.

[Wrighty26]

Michelle, I not sure if I understand your question. The egg lives for 12-24 hours after ovulation.

That's pretty much the answer I was looking for :) Thanks!

[kmmommy]

Good luck Wrighty! Does DH have an office you can use at work for lunch?!?!

I woke up today starving, nauseous, with a little low back pain and pressure/cramping in my abdomen. I also keep feeling like AF is here but just a little more brown spotting. Today is my 9th day of spotting and I'm getting annoyed. Hopefully it's for a good purpose.

[klav]

17 DPO and when I put my temp in this AM it moved my O from the 13th to the 14th? HUH?? :confused:

Babylove I was pt on his treatment by my DR. not sure why the estrodial but I assume it was all part of the procedure of colmid? I have heard of girls only taking clomid and nothing eles I guess this wa just her way of doining it? I have the paper here from Prochieve and it say's on the paper that tells you when to take what that it's to work to gether to optimize your cycle. it also say's the Estrgen followed by the prochieve helps the lining of the uterus to develope properly. and it say's that if PG occurs to continue for 10 weeks....

So Talked with my aunt last night and she really could not give me any advice because she really does not know about OBYN things she's more in the ICU so she also suggested to call the DR so I was going to do that tomarrow due to the long weekend I assume they are not there today. So one more day of not knowing what is going on. and I have not taken any otehr test except for the one I took on Sat. So there has only been one test of BFN.

o-yeah --the first cycle with this I got AF with out a problem and this time on about the 27/28 th day there was some brown spotting in the progesterone cream??? so not sure if that's anything? so I sit and wait..confused??

[Ericka_Jarett]

Threadmistress:

Can you move me to think I O'd, testing Sept 19 - 25th

Thanks

[babylove]

Wrighty26 ~ Yup. 20. DH hasn't said one word about BD'ing since #20. We are both just sick of it :rolleyes: It's funny though, i didn't even have to do any convincing...if I tried to get out of it b/c I was tired, he would insist, in case "this was the day I finally O." Such a trooper :D As for getting your brother into gear so you can pounce on your hubby...I think if you did tell him the truth, he would be too stunned to argue! Problem solved! ;)

Ericka_Jarett ~ Another super BD'er! :D Good luck this cycle!!

Kaeden's Mommy ~ Thanks! DH hasn't complained at all, believe me! He's had enough, if you can believe that! :D Hmm...do you always spot before AF? Maybe this is a good sign!? *crossing fingers*

klav ~I have that same pamphlet fom the Prochieve. I have to consult it now! I sort of want to call my dr today and find out if I should be taking estrodil now, but I feel bad about disturbing his holiday weekend. BTW, spotting while on progesterone can be normal. I had it too, for about 3 days before AF. It could also be implantation spotting...good luck!

[kmmommy]

Babylove - I usually spot for AF for a day or two but I spotted for 8 days and it started on CD 35 when AF was due. I'm sure hoping it's a good sign!

[Mystikal]

No time for shoutouts as I'm taking a quick break from painting our bedroom. I just wanted to say welcome back to babylove!! I Hope you are blessed with a sticky BFP soon!!

As for me, my temp went back above CL this morning so I don't konw what's going on. I haven't tested yet. I'm still not sure I O'ed. :confused:

[Sabriel]

UTChick It doesn't look like you have Oed yet. Sorry your cycle is being so wacky. I didn't O last cycle, so I know that it is frustating. Hope the painting is going well. I painted our dining room yesterday. It's so fun! It feels like we have a new room. :)

Kaeden's Mommy I hope this spotting is good news for you! When are you testing again?

babylove Wow 20 times! There is no way my DH would go for that.

klav Hope you get some answers from the doctor tomorrow! Are you going to test again before you call?

Wrighty26 I sure hope you can find some time with DH today! Good luck!

CD 8 for me. Yesterday DH kept talking about moving furnature around in our house. I finally asked him why he was so worried about it, and he said that he is trying to figure out how we can empty a room for "the baby". It was so cute. LOL, now we just need a baby!

[klav]

Sabriel I was not sure if I was going to test or to wait till I talk or see the DR.
SO ... i thnk I will be waiting to see what the DR say's

[ShelbyMay]

Please move me to "Waiting to O".

AF showed up on Friday and is still in the building, although pretty light. I can't believe we haven't had more BFPs lately -- So many people's charts were looking so good! :confused:

[Charting is Knowledge]

Hmmm... I see a BFP... from last month... Did she announce and I missed it... or is she hiding out?? Congratulations if I missed it, and Come out, come out, wherever you are if I didn't! :D


*back to lurking and updating*

[Mystikal]

I see it!!! You shore must b congratulated!!!! :D:D

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here!

Welcome back BLove! :D We are happy to have you back, though sorry you have to come back. {{{HUGS}}}

Sorry to all those AF found! :( Sheesh! She is on a rampage, isn't she??

Good luck to all those waiting to test! I hope those of you that are in the :confused: status get an answer very soon!

And good luck to everyone waiting to O! May this be the egg that doesn't get away! :cool:


Have a lovely rest of the weekend everyone!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Thanks M! Glad I'm not seeing things! :D

[Ericka_Jarett]

Congratulations

[Wrighty26]

I believe the one in hiding is now going by a new name. I didn't want to "out" here in the last thread...but maybe she'll stop by soon??

[Dotsie]

How do I link my FF chart to here? TIA!!!

[Ericka_Jarett]

Dotsie,

Go into your chart and click on:

Sharing
Homepage Setup
Click the address in the box that says ehre is your URL.

[ds2003]

when you are looking at your chart, go to "Sharing-->Home Page Setup" on the top menu.

Post the your webpage address that is shown.

[flygirl]

I believe the one in hiding is now going by a new name. I didn't want to "out" here in the last thread...but maybe she'll stop by soon??
I'm sorry, all. I PM'd her a week or so ago & forgot to post it here.

hbeshore was an incarnation of jeeplover, who was keeping her TTC efforts under the radar. She got a BFP about 3 weeks ago :D.

[Ericka_Jarett]

Could possibly be implantation spotting, don't give up just yet, until or if AF shows her face.

[Mystikal]

Bellefior it could be implantation spotting along with an implantation dip, but if AF shows tomorrow I would look into incorporating B6, magnesium, and zinc into your daily routine. I take 100mg of B6 in the morning, and a calcium, magnesium, and zinc supplement in the evening and it lengthened my LP from 9-11 days all the way to 14-15 days!! GL!

[Dotsie]

Thanks for the help.... Do I post the url like it was shown on FF. Here it is

http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e00ca

How does everyone else have sayings underneath their name. I know how we used to do it on the WC. Is it the same way?

[ds2003]

Mystikal, are you taking a prenatal vitamin?

[Mystikal]

Bellefior how much of each is in the multi? I take 100mg of B6, 1000mg of Calcium, 400mg of Magnesium, and 15mg of zinc...
Dotsie yup, same as on WC! :)
ds yup, I take a PNV, too. :)

[ds2003]

Mystikal, are you only taking a PNV?

[Ericka_Jarett]

Just watch with the calcium supplement, my mom was taking that and ended up getting kidney stones 5 times in about 2 months. Just want to make sure your ok and don't get the stones, they are horrible. Doctor told her never to take the supplement, it's better to just drink milk than take a pill.

[ds2003]

i was concerned too. I wasn't sure if the supplements she listed were in addition to the PNV or if she was listing what was in her PNV. There are certain ones that you do not what to overdo.

[Mystikal]

I take them in addition to my PNV, when I was just taking my PNV it wasn't helping my LP any. I've been taking all the supplements since mid-April and haven't had any problems yet...

[Ericka_Jarett]

Rachel,

I was mentioning it to my husband what you take and he said it's not healthy and messes with your hormones. Does your doctor know about the supplements? Just don't want to see you get ill down the road.

My prenatals already have 167% of the zinc I need in a daily value (25 mg) B6 I get 20mg which is 800% of the daily value.

I was just did a search and your original LP of 9-11 days is not out of the normal range really. My LP is 11 days long This site talks about LP defects: http://www.babyhopes.com/articles/luteal-phase-defect.html

[cat_loverpq]

Wow, I've got a lot to catch up on! Sorry to all of those who met up with the witch, and **sticky vibes** to all those waiting to test!

Babylove ~ Welcome back! And I must say, you are definitely the BD champ! :eek:

Bellefior ~ I don't think that sounds too b!tchy. "When God decides to give us one" clearly tells people that you're trying (IMO anyways), and if they can't read between the lines then that's their own fault. :p

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We've been trying the Shettles method (for a girl) this month, and I should be Oing tomorrow. Sunday morning was the last time we were going to BD, but tonight I got a wild hair and decided that just in case I am late Oing, we should BD again. :) Actually, tonight it was more romantically induced (which was a lot nicer than "Ok, let's go, time to BD" ;) ). So hopefully I get a temp rise tomorrow morning and can start the 2ww! :D

[spencer's_girl]

CD 24 and still no O so i'm still waiting but on the bright side no O and no bun in the oven means that i could have a couple of glasses of wine on sunday when DH took me out for my birthday and not worry about it at all

so
threadmistress could you please change my age to 24 thanks

[Dotsie]

test

[klav]

calling the DR this Am forgot to take another test this am.. ooops
so no my chart onFF say's they can't detect O and my cover line is gone?? stupid FF :(

[Wrighty26]

Sorry Klav :( I hope you can get an answer from your Dr. today!

I guess my temp is slow to rise this month? I was expecting a bigger temp jump today, but didn't get one. Hmph. My O pains are gone, yet my bbs are insanely sore. I'll be super annoyed that we didn't get to have any *alone* time yesteday, if I'm actually ovulating today (although my CM pretty much disappeared yesterday afternoon-- and my CP has lowered/become more firm).

*Sigh* This charting stuff MAY kill me :)

[Dotsie]

Sorry klav.
I'm now on CD1. Af came with a wicked vengeance. At least I can look forward to bd'ing and hopefully catch the egg this month.

[katmg]

I missed the new thread! I was out of town this past weekend - and now we're on page 16!? I'm pretty sure I O'd but I had a low temp this morning so I'll have to wait to call it until tomorrow.

[Lizard]

Is it just me or are there a lot of us O'ing at the same time? :D Count me as one of them... I am pretty positive I O'ed yesterday. The weird thing... I have O pain, and it's been alternating sides each month. According to the pattern, I should have had left side pain this month, and I did for a while, but I've also had really bad right side pain too. I can't help but think I O'ed on both sides. Unless I get pregnant with fraternal twins, I guess I'll never know, LOL.

Hope everyone had a great weekend... we were VERY busy with some remodeling projects. It was nice though, we got a lot of stuff done and still had plenty of time to relax.

[amurphy]

Welcome back to work, everyone! Blah. I read through the last few pages and it looks like we have a lot of Oing around here. Sorry to those of you struggling to figure out what is going on with your cycle and to those of you who got a visit from AF.

I'm 10DPO. I had a temp drop yesterday (but above the coverline) and a rise this morning. I'll probably test tomorrow before leaving on vacation and if BFN and no AF while away, I'll test when I get back.Take care!

[mkvh]

Mornin' ladies! I'm going to make a lame attempt at SOs...

Sorry to those AF found...witch!

klav:[b] hope you get some answers today!

[b]babylove: welcome back! So excited to have you 'back in the game' :D Although there's no WAY I could compete with you and your DH...wow...20 times! We had to take a few days' rest after 10 or so this month! You're a better woman than I!

shanna: welcome back from vaca. We missed you!

Mystikal: you are way more of a charting pro than I, so you know that it's not uncommon for your temp to dip below CL for a day in the LP... hang in there!

amurphy: still looking good there, lady...nice dip and rebound yesterday/today.... and flat temps. Welcome to that club!

KM: any updates for us?

Okay, that's all I can see on the screen and/or remember, so sorry for those I didn't respond to!
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I moved my CH to CD 15...keeping myself a bit saner. That puts me at 12 DPO with F-L-A-T temps for the last 6 (?) days. Today, if I adjust, gives me another nice little rise. I am SOOO trying to hold out. I laid in bed awake for an hour after I temped debating whether to test or not. Couldn't bring myself to see another BFN. So I'm hoping to wait out AF or test Friday, whichever comes first!

[kmmommy]

I too forgot to test this morning. I woke up to pee and check on DS at 6am and totally forgot.

Last night DH and I BD and after I had a little light pink blood that went away within 30 minutes or so.

Don't really know what to think right now.

[katmg]

Is it just me or are there a lot of us O'ing at the same time? :D Count me as one of them... I am pretty positive I O'ed yesterday.

I think we o'ed at that same time last month too! ;)

[Wrighty26]

Is it just me or are there a lot of us O'ing at the same time?

Maybe this is a good thing! Hopefully it will include lots of pretty BFPs to look forward to soon :)

[Ericka_Jarett]

Sure hope your right Michelle.

I still can't pinpoint the exact day I O'd. Took another test this morning and it still read with the double lines, just the reference line was darker. I have a pic of the 6 tests I took, I can't see much difference except to see that the 19th was a definate positive and the 20th was as well, if not a darker test line then the reference lines. I either O'd sometime Friday - Sunday. So either I am DPO 4 or DPO 2 I figure with the time I put down the test date as I did, so will be days past my normal LP of 11 days, just to be on the safe side.

We are working on figuring out when hubby wants to take his vacation days that are left for the year. We may go to Disney for our 4th anniversary (that's where we got married) or to Vegas (I personally have no interest in going there) or maybe we will go to the Precious Moments Chapel. I am looking at prices too for a trip to Brentwood, TN in February for vacation Bible school training. Plus hoping to be pregnant in there :)

[shouldaeloped]

Hi everyone.. I figure I have been lurking here long enough, i might as well join in. hopefully it will bring me some sanity!

I am currently 6DPO and waiting anxiously. Climbing temps for the past 5 days with a huge dip today. For some inexplicable reason I tested yesterday and understandably got a BFN. I am holding out great hopes this might be it for us this month. According to FF, my test date is 9/16.

I'll post my chart once I figure out how to do it!

[flygirl]

I posted this earlier & it seemed to have been lost in all this posting :). Just so y'all know we have another graduate:
I believe the one in hiding is now going by a new name. I didn't want to "out" here in the last thread...but maybe she'll stop by soon??
I'm sorry, all. I PM'd her a week or so ago & forgot to post it here.

hbeshore was an incarnation of jeeplover, who was keeping her TTC efforts under the radar. She got a BFP about 3 weeks ago :D.

Threadmistress, can you please update our front page to include hbeshore/jeeplover's bfp?! Thanks.

DH was *finally* feeling a little bit better yesterday & we were able to get in some much-needed BDing. I got a neg. OPK early yesterday afternoon with relatively weak urine. I took another this morning & it was very close to a pos. Now I'm wondering if I missed the surge yesterday afternoon & it's already waning, or has the surge just started & I'll get a + this afternoon. Obviously I'm hoping for the latter to give us a little more time. Either way, I'm right behind y'all who've just O'd!

Y'all are going to hate me, but here I come nosing around in y'all's business... :)

Erika, I've been thinking for the past few days that FF didn't call your O correctly, and your temp-jump today confirmed it. I'm almost 100% positive that you O'd yesterday, and after another temp or two, FF will change your CH to show it.

Wrighty, in most women, CM begins to dry up just before O. Also, O-pains can be for any number of reasons & can happen at any time during the process. Some women actually feel the egg break through the ovary. Others feel cramps just before O as the egg gets ready to burst. And even others (myself included) feel cramps after O due to the uterine contractions that help pull the egg through the fallopian tube. I'm guessing that you O'd early this morning or late last night, & will show a much higher rise tomorrow morning.

katmg, I'm going out on a limb & guessing you're O'ing today. I'll just leave it at that for a few days :).

Crappity. I have more but gotta go for a bit...

[klav]

Called this Am at 9, waiting for DR to call back...... :(

[katmg]

katmg, I'm going out on a limb & guessing you're O'ing today. I'll just leave it at that for a few days :).

Woo Hoo! Someone's chart stalking me! :D I'll have to tell DH that we better get busy tonight...

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here!

Bellefior, Would you like me to move you to waiting to O or would you like to stay in a testing category until you know it is AF for sure?

Klav, Thinking about you and wishing you good luck!! Hope you hear soon!



Official congratulations to hbeshore! Very sneaky!! :p

[Wrighty26]

Wrighty, in most women, CM begins to dry up just before O. Also, O-pains can be for any number of reasons & can happen at any time during the process. Some women actually feel the egg break through the ovary. Others feel cramps just before O as the egg gets ready to burst. And even others (myself included) feel cramps after O due to the uterine contractions that help pull the egg through the fallopian tube. I'm guessing that you O'd early this morning or late last night, & will show a much higher rise tomorrow morning.


I think you are most definitely right :( I was hoping that this wouldn't be the case because we did have a chance to BD yesterday! Dammit!

Glad to hear your DH is feeling a little better though!!!

Sorry to hear about AF Bellifior :(

[Ericka_Jarett]

Thanks Jen, I was thinking it seemed odd of FF to put me as Friday when that was my positive day for OPK. My TCOYF had me as Oing on Sunday.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here!

So sorry about AF Bellefior. :( Very strange...

[klav]

I have not heard from DR still yet she's in deliveries I guess
But AF finaaly decided to show up 4 day's late??? so I still have questions to ask the DR. like should I have stopped the Progest. onm day 28when on day 29 the test came up Neg. and what happens this next cycle if it does not work again do I have to have an office visit to get the clomid dose upped? So

Thread mistress please move me to waiting to O

and I was thinking It really stinks because it looks great on a chart with my temps and all but it's just the med's so how do you tell if your PG or it's just the Med's makeing you nutz?!! :( :(

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here!

So sorry about AF Klav! :( {{{HUGS}}} I hope you get some answers from your dr! Progesterone is a mean animal like that... it never gives you an accurate chart since it ups your temps. Keep us posted!

[klav]

I'll be crying on the way home can't do it here at work.... :( :mad: :( it's only the 11 cycle..................

[Baby Lust]

I'm so sorry... :( No matter how many cycles you have been trying, it is still so hard, especially when you have yourself convinced that you are pg. :( {{{{HUGS}}}}

[mkvh]

Hugs, klav. And you too, belle!

[Ericka_Jarett]

So sorry to hear about AF for so many. I know how it feels to have her return when you so want to be pregnant. Last month I cried when she showed up, I really thought that was my month. Heck I just had a breakdown again for all of us.

I was putting some clothes away in my maternity tote in the closet and had to pull down part of the bassinett and a pack of diapers. The reminders for me of what should be right now. It would be awesome if this is the last charting thread for all of us.

[cat_loverpq]

Is it normal to have spotting around O? It's been so long since I've read TCOYF that I can't remember. I know spotting a few days after O could be implantation, and I was thinking that spotting right around O could be due to the hormone levels taking longer to rise and therefore a part of the lining gets shed...? At least I think that's what I remember reading. Thoughts anyone?

[Baby Lust]

Cat, It is ok to spot at O time. I have seen many women experience this, and to many, that is a very good indicator of O. Mark it on your chart and watch it fall into place! :D

[amurphy]

I'm so so sorry, klav & belle. TTCing shouldn't be this hard. It's not fair. :(

[kmmommy]

Hugs to klav and belle. Sorry AF showed up. Praying that September is your month.

My BBs were a bit sore this afternoon so I'm hoping that's a really good sign. Happens before AF sometimes too but since I spotted for 8 days I'm guessing AF isn't coming. *fingers crossed*

[babylove]

Thanks for all the warm welcomes, ladies :) Got my rx for clomid today. I start on Thurs and then I hope to be outta here so fast that you won't even know I was here! :D I wish the same for all of you....

Sorry about AF, klav and belle. It doesn't matter how long you are trying, it is so disappointing to get AF when you really believe that you are pg. This is only my 4th cycle and every time I have been devastated. I wish there was a way to turn off the emotions, KWIM??

[dlj78]

Hi ladies! I haven't been around much, just lurking here and there. Work has been kicking my butt and I am going out of town in the morning (for work) until Friday.

I am sorry to those who had AF show up :( Hang in there!

I hope we get some more BFPs soon!

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Not much to update on me, I never o'ed this cycle :( So I am just waiting for the witch to come so I can see what next cycle brings.....hopefully an o!

Good night!

[UTChick]

I missed several pages during the last couple of days. Hoping that those of you Oing are catching those eggs. Bummer to those of you who have joined me in the 'waiting to O again' category. September can be our fresh new start!

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I'm just settling in for my nice long wait for an O. One thing to look forward to is that if I O around the time of a normal person it would be around our 2nd anniversary on the 20th. I would have to O a little early for that to happen, but stranger things have happened before, so who knows?

Take care everyone!

[klav]

So I got an email from the DR. I emailed her last night after I got home from a cosmetic party. and she said I did the right thing with the progesterone to take it until my period come. So I feel better now that I did not mess up. So we are now on to cycle #3 of clomid and the 11 cycles of trying sence the MC. actually the Dr. did call me but it was 9:30 and I was at the party ad did not recognize the number so did not answer. but It was cool she emailed me back! So here we go agian.... :(

[babylove]

klav ~ It is so frustrating when you have to take the prog and you are fooled by the high temps and long LP. My LP the first month I was on the prog was 16 days! Rather than face the disappointment of seeing a pretty pg chart, but knowing it's a farce, I just stop temping after I O. It's much easier that way...good luck this cycle!

[Wrighty26]

Woo-hoo temp rise :) It's not huge- but it went up to 97.6 today. So, I'm thinking that flygirl was definitely right-- that I ovulated yesterday/night before (I'm thinking positive thoughts and hoping it was the night before!). I'm not going to call it until FF does though (which hopefully will be Friday).

Now it's just a big waiting game, I guess. UGH.
Klav- it was nice of your Dr. to make several attempts to get back to you. I never realized that progesterone had that effect. How evil.

UTChick - Here's hoping you O on/around your anniversary! That would be some nice timing!

dlj78 - Sorry you never Od! I hope you aren't waiting too long (like I did)...

babylove - Good luck with the Clomid!
Kaeden's Mommy - When are you testing??? :D

Ericka - Sorry this is so hard! I really hope that September is YOUR month!

[Mystikal]

FF moved my O date, so Threadmistress can you please move me to "I think I O'ed, testing 9/12-9/18"?
Not that I think I"ll need to test, the last time we BD'd was on CD22, and FF is now calling O on CD27. I know it's possible for the little guys to live that long, but I just don't feel optimistic. :(

Sorry to those to had AF show, and I'm pulling for everyone else waiting to test. I'm off to feel sorry for myself now.

[amurphy]

Ugh. Everyone seems to have been dealt bad news this week. Hope it turns around soon for us all!

11DPO and a BFN this morning. I'm actually not too disappointed. I know its early and there is still hope. I had wicked stomach cramps last night for about 20 minutes. And this morning, I have dull AF-like cramps...which seem to be subsiding a little bit. Soooo, I'm off to Paris tonight (with an HPT and tampons stuck in my bag). :rolleyes: Have a good week, everyone. Good luck to everyone testing while I'm away!!!

[mkvh]

Man, what's UP with this thread??? Ugh is right, amurphy! Sorry again to those who are going through rough patches (Ericka, klav, bellefior)...my thoughts are with you.

babylove: darn right you'd better be outta here so fast we don't even realize you were here! Good luck with the Clomid this round!

Wrighty: Yay! for a potential O!! True that you don't know exactly when the eggie released...so here's hoping for oh, a couple of hours after that last BD session ;)

UT Chick: Early O vibes coming your way! How great would it be to concieve on your anniversary??

Mystikal: Sorry about the frustrating cycle! Darn FF telling you you were in the clear prematurely!

KM: Woman, WHEN are you testing?? You're giving me heartburn!

amurphy: Crossables crossed (although you'll only read this when you get back and already have tested!)!!! Have a safe and WONDERFUL trip!

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Well, MAJOR temp drop today for me. FF also changed my O date (?) when I plugged this morning's temp in and of course took away my 'possibly triphasic'. I'm still above CL with an adjustment no matter what day I O'd on, but I'm sure this is it for this cycle. At least I now have a nice, average LP! Makes me feel a little better about the 9 day one last cycle!

[cat_loverpq]

Baby Lust ~ Thanks for the reply. I was pretty sure it was normal, but you ladies are the experts. ;) I was hoping my temp rise yesterday was the indication of O, but it went back down today so I don't know what to think. :( Guess that just means more BD time with DH! :D

babylove ~ Good luck with the clomid!

amurphy ~ Have a wonderful trip! I hope we hear good news when you get back!

Mystikal ~ I'm sorry. There is still a tiny bit of hope though, so don't give up yet...

UT Chick ~ Here's hoping for an early O!

klav ~ Sounds like you have a great dr! Good luck!

Wrighty26 ~ Sending **sticky vibes**!!
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My temp went back down again today. I was really hoping that yesterday was the day I would O, but no such luck it appears. I just pray that this cycle is not annov. Maybe I'm stressed about something subconsciously and O is just getting delayed... :confused:

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here!

Have a great trip amurphy! Hope you have some good news for us when you get back! :D

Mystikal, Sorry about the O date change. :( Just keep thinking about Tulip! :D Try not to lose hope!

Mkvh, Sorry about the temp drop :(

Good luck to everyone testing in the next few days! And to everyone hoping to O soon, have fun BDing! Always remember to keep it fun. :) TTC is a chore sometimes, but BDing shouldn't be. :cool:

Have a great day everyone!

[kmmommy]

I tested this morning and another BFN. :( I'm CD 45 today so it's probably accurate but if I keep having sore BBs I may have to make a trip to the doctor.

Good luck to everyone who's Oing and testing.

[ellidew]

Sorry about all the BFN's and AF! Ick. CD6 for me. Boring... :rolleyes:

[mkvh]

Just doing some lunchtime stalking...

Lizard: Looks like an O to me...fingers crossed for more high temps!

Flygirl: Yay, yay, yay for + OPK AND back-to-back BDing. Glad to see that hubby was feeling up to it, too! ;)

KM: Sorry about the BFN... :(

Thanks, Baby Lust!

Wow...AF is like the plague around here right now. Someone needs to clue her in that she's SOOO not welcome!

[flygirl]

mkvh, you are too funny!

OS actually already called my O today based on the +OPK. With the temp dip & slightly thicker CM, I have to agree :D. More BD today!

KM, it's like our bodies are purposely working against us. I'm sorry this has turned into such a frustrating cycle.

cat_lover, please don't start worrying about an annov yet; you may stress too much & delay your O! Your chart still looks just fine. Just don't stop BDing yet.;)

mkvh (again), I have no idea why FF would change your O date. CD16 looks much more likely. But either way, your LP does look healthy. (And don't forget; it's not over...)

amurphy, have a wonderful trip! I *really* hope you can toss those tampons in the trash in Paris.

Mystical, you were one I didn't have time to mention yesterday :). I noticed you changed/disregarded some temps. Just a suggestion, but speaking from experience, be *very* careful about playing with your chart. Trying to make it look the way you want it to look will end up doing yourself a disservice; I know it did for me. Keep in mind that any software based on arbitrary observations is going to be imperfect, and your own interpretation of the chart & your body is much more reliable. In your case, the fact that you still had fertile CM is a good indicator that you hadn't O'd.

Wrighty, you're lookin' good! Don't stress about your BD schedule. It is what it is & I think you did just fine :).

Klav, I'm sorry this is so frustrating :(. I hope the med schedule will end up working for you.

UTChick, Oing near your anniversary should guarentee good BDing ;)

Hugs, Belle!

Erika, I'm much more inclined to agree with OS.

shouldaeloped, WELCOME!!! I'm so sorry your first post got lost!! I hope you don't stick around long, but in the mean time, post your stats (see first page) & we'll add you to the list! There are also instructions on the first page about how to post your chart.

Spencer's_girl, I don't know how we missed it, but HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!

[bottleored]

Threadmistress - can you remove me from the 'expectant mommies' list - I m/c'ed yesterday. Thanks!

[mkvh]

Caroline. my heart is breaking for you. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your DH.

[Ryan]

HEy girls just checking in... sorry for all the disappointments....

BORING ME IS AT CD 13... just waiting to O :rolleyes:

[flygirl]

Oh Caroline. I am so, so sorry for your loss. You and your family are in my prayers.

[lowcountrywed]

Caroline - I'm very sorry to hear your news. Take care of yourself and get some R&R.

Sorry, I have been MIA around here, but I had good reason. On Thursday, I got a BFP!! I am still really nervous and being cautiously excited, but I got my 2nd betas back today and things are going well, and I'll be having an ultrasound next week.

Good luck to all you ladies!! I'll be dropping in to wish you all congratulations on your bfps (very, very soon!)

[mkvh]

Congrats, lowcountrywed! I was wondering where you had gotten too. ~STICKY VIBES~

[Ericka_Jarett]

So sorry to hear about your loss Caroline

Congratulations Melissa

Jen, so what day do you think I O'd? I have my test date staying the same, since I will be past 11 DPO anyway, which is usually when AF shows her ugly face.

[ellidew]

bottleored- That's so sad. {{{HUGS}}} I'm thinking about you.

[Wrighty26]

Sorry to hear the bad news bottleored :(

Congrats to Melissa! Please spread some of that baby dust-- I could definitely use it right about now :D

[cat_loverpq]

Caroline ~ I'm so sorry for your loss. You are in my prayers. **hugs**

lowcountrywed ~ Congratulations!!

flygirl ~ Thanks for the pick-me-up. :) I guess I'm just quick to think annov. because my first 4 cycles off BCP were annov. I've had 2 regular cycles since then, so you're probably right. I've already informed DH that he has an appointment (with me) tonight. ;)

[Dotsie]

Caroline I'm so sorry for your loss {{HUGS}}

lowcountrywed Yay for the BFP!!!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here!

Bottleored, I am so sorry for your loss. You and your husband are in my thoughts and prayers.

Lowcountry, Congratulations! :D

Shouldaeloped, I'm so sorry I missed you before! :o If you want to post your stats, I will gladly get you added to the roster and testing categories!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Just doing some updating... I am still missing charts from Jesseybell and bumble. If you lovely ladies would like to include your chart so we can stalk along with you, feel free!! If you prefer not to share, that is fine too! :)

[marteneym]

There is no way I can catch up on 20+PAGES. Sorry to those who have had dissapointing news this week.
I had a questionable temp jump this week, but it may be due to te cold weather I was in for 4days camping. My bbs are kiling me but my temps havent convinced me of anything.
Hope you all have a good week.

[Sabriel]

Congrats lowcountrywed!! I needed to hear some good news!

Sending an ovary shout out to marteneym!

Welcome Shouldaeloped! Hope your stay is short and sweet!

cat_loverpq I agree, keep BDing!

bottleored I am so sorry about your loss.

CD 10 for me and more EWCM today. I never get a ton of it, and I am starting to think that I just get it randomly. :rolleyes:

[ShelbyMay]

Good news: Today I found out that I've booked my first big photography gig!

Bad news: It's a June 2006 wedding.

Please move me to "Temporarily TTA". :(

How long do you think we need to TTA? I know there are no guarantees, but do you think it would be a relatively safe bet that I could do the job if we waited 3 months? Or do I need to put it off for even longer?

[Ericka_Jarett]

Having been pregnant just a few months ago, I know how tired I got all through my 2nd trimester. I went to just at 6 months. I would wait more than 3 months, cause that would still put you into a Aug-Sept due date. In your 6th month and you will be facing being that pregnant and the heat, along with being on your feet all day. But that's just me.

[babylove]

Wrighty26 ~ Yay for a temp rise!

Mystikal ~ It's not over until the red lady appears, you know that...it is totally possible that the little swimmers survived...stranger things have happened! *crossing fingers*

amurphy ~ Sorry about the BFN but YAY for PARIS!! Lucky girl!

mkvh ~ Thanks! Sorry about the temp drop. But a 14 day LP is GREAT!

catloverpq ~ Thanks for the good luck wishes!

Kaeden's Mommy ~ Sorry about the BFN. But it is still possible to get a + until you see red you know! Good luck!

flygirl ~ YAY for O!!

bottleored ~ I am so incredibly sorry for your loss. Having been there myself, I understand what you are going through and would be happy to be a shoulder to cry on if you need it. Feel free to PM me!! {{{{HUGS}}}}

lowcountrywed ~ CONGRATS ON YOUR BFP!!!!! Send some baby dust my way puh-leeeeeze! ;)

marteneym ~ Hope camping was fun!

Sabriel ~ EWCM is EWCM....find your DH and jump his bones! ;) But I know what you mean, I get random EW too.

ShelbyMay ~ Congrats on the photog gig! Sorry that means that you have to TTA for a few months, but it will be worth it. I don't really know what to tell you about how long to TTA...anything can happen. Good luck!

***

Soooooo excited about starting Clomid tomorrow. I know nothing will happen for another week or so, but I am just excited to swallow that little pill! :D I am a little nervous about the side effects, but I'll do whatever it takes.

[shouldaeloped]

here's my stats so I can officially join. .

me- 33
DH- 35
Married- October 19, 2002
Off BCP- August 2003
TTC- January 2005
Charting since October 2004
knows issues- miscarriage #1- 12w2d January 2005
miscarriage #2- 9w2d May 2005
current status- testing 9/17

most of my charting has been very on again, off again but I am finally getting serious. I think my chart is in my signature! it seems there has been quite a bit of good luck around here and I am hoping some of it rubs off!!!

[babylove]

Welcome shouldaeloped!

[katmg]

Bottleored - I'm so sorry. I hope that you are feeling better soon. *Hugs*

Lowcountry - Congratulations! H&H 9 months!

Even though my temp went down again this morning, I'm pretty sure that I O'd last Friday. I'll wait and see what happens with the next couple of temps though. When I put in some fake high temps for the next few days it gives me back my crosshairs on Friday. With all the family/hurricane stuff going on I'm surprised that I o'd at all this month. Only downside is that with all the family/hurricane stuff going on - we didn't do a whole lot of BDing. :( I'm not too optimistic about this month. Grrr!

[copswife03]

Me: Brooke/25
DH: Joe/27
Married since: 10/11/2003
Off BCP since: 8/20/2005
TTC since: 8/20/2005
Charting since: 8/22/2005
Known issues/test results:None
Chart: http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/daf53
Current status: I think I O'd yesterday...?

Look forward to meeting y'all.. I'm VERY new to this charting thing..! :confused:

[Dotsie]

Here's a warm welcome from one cop's wife to another!!! :D Hope your stay here is short and sweet.

[marteneym]

Welcome to the newbies!

AF showed up about an hour ago. I was totally shocked. Since DH is in school tonight I am sure I will be spending my night on the couch with a heat pack for the cramps and an ice pack for my headache. I havent fallen apart yet but that is because I am at work. I am so disappointed since it looks like I never O'ed. I have a call into the infert nurse who my appt is with to see if they will start me on chlomid prior to my appt so I don't have to wait another LONG cycle.

[Mystikal]

flygirl actually, without the discarded temps FF still gave me O, I just think it looks better discarded. ;) Thanks for the warning, though!!
bottleored I'm so so sorry. :( Many prayers coming your way. ((HUGS))
lowcountrywed congratulations!! Happy and Healthy nine months!! :D

Welcome to the newbies!
Sorry to all those that had AF show. :( It sucks...

Thanks everyone for the support...I'm going to continue telling myself that there's no way I can be pg, that way I won't test unless AF is late...maybe it'll work. ;)
Then, I just found out that DH's new job will require him to go away for four days/three nights for training in six weeks. If my cycles stay consistent then that will be right around O time. :( Dammick.

[Wrighty26]

I'm so sorry marteneym :( This has been kinda a sucky week for everyone, huh? At least you ended this annovulatory cycle-- and can move on to bigger and better things!

Welcome shouldaeloped and copswife03!

Katmg- Sorry to hear about your family and the hurricane. I can't even imagine that kind of stress. Don't give up hope! Stranger things have happened.

babylove - Yay Clomid (never thought that would be something I would cheer about!). I honestly had no symptoms taking it. I think it's different at a higher dosage-- but you're only taking 50mg, right?

ShelbyMay - Woo-hoo on the first gig!! It sucks that it's in June! Here's my question for you (and I hope you don't find it offensive)- How long will you put off TTC to pursue your career? That's really going to determine when you you should start TTC again. What if this gig leads to another? I don't find anything wrong with putting off TTC- don't get me wrong (because I'm sure it sounds like it!), but at some point you will have to decide which is a priority. I wish you the best of luck-- and I"m SOOO excited that you're fulfilling your goals :D

Sabriel - I hope you are taking advantage of your hubby tonight :D

ETA: Amurhpy-- have a BLAST in Paris :)

[UTChick]

bottleored~I am so sorry to hear of your loss. We are here for you whenever you need us.

lowcountrywed~Wow!! Great news! I am also in need of some of that baby dust, so don't be stingy! :D

Welcome to the newbies. This is a great group of very supportive ladies. Hope your stay is short and sweet.

amurphy~I am so jealous of the Paris trip. Have lots of fun and be safe!

marteneym~Sorry about AF. Knowing it is coming is bad enough, but being surprised really sucks. Take it easy tonight.

babylove~Good luck with the Clomid. I'm sure it is exciting to know you are moving in the right direction.

I know I am missing people, so I am sorry if I missed you. Happy BDing to those of you who are about to O, positive vibes to those about to test, and a "keep your chin up" to those having a crappy week. :)

[kmmommy]

Congrats to lowcountrywed! H&H 9 months to you!

Welcome to our newbies!

I've got a million things to do tonight so no individual replies - sorry - I'm trying to be better about it. Thanks to all of you for your kind words and thoughts.

I'm getting pretty nervous about what's going on with me. Since DS was born my cycle is a mess. This time my BBs hurt - not as bad as when I was pg with DS - but they're getting there. Besides, my BBs didn't hurt until 6-7 weeks with DS. Anyway, I'm just wondering if I don't have some hormone problems since everything is a mess.

Is it really still possible to get a BFP even though today is CD45 and I got a BFN? I'm just wondering if I should give up.

[klav]

bottleored so sorry, were here for you.

[kmmommy]

So sorry bottleored.

[ShelbyMay]

bottleored, I am so sorry for your loss. I hope that you'll join us again when you are ready.

[ShelbyMay]

ShelbyMay - Woo-hoo on the first gig!! It sucks that it's in June! Here's my question for you (and I hope you don't find it offensive)- How long will you put off TTC to pursue your career? That's really going to determine when you you should start TTC again. What if this gig leads to another? I don't find anything wrong with putting off TTC- don't get me wrong (because I'm sure it sounds like it!), but at some point you will have to decide which is a priority. I wish you the best of luck-- and I"m SOOO excited that you're fulfilling your goals :D


You have a good point. Hrmm. I know that I am really ticked off to even be waiting for this one gig, so I don't see myself pushing the date back repeatedly. On the other hand... I don't really know how to decide. What if I turn down other gigs and then STILL don't get pregnant?

I don't think I'll accept any gigs past mid June -- at least not this far in advance. I feel particularly obligated to accept this one because (1) It's the first time a stranger has wanted to hire me and (2) She first contacted me about 2 months ago when I thought I had plenty of time to go through an entire pregnancy, deliver the baby, and recover, all before her wedding date. I told her that I could hold the date until September 15, and she contacted me today to book it. I think I would have been open with her about TTC if she'd tried to book it after that date, but a promise is a promise. :rolleyes:

How long do I need to TTA so that I would be (at the most) in the beginning of my 2nd trimester in mid-June? :confused:

[kmmommy]

ShelbyMay ~ You would want to wait until March to TTC if you only want to be in the early 2nd trimester by mid-June. Week 13 begins the 2nd trimester.

Congrats on the gig!

[ShelbyMay]

Geez, that's a long time... :(

[Ilovemygeek]

Congrats lowcountrywed!

[ds2003]

bottleored, I am so sorry for your loss.


lowcountrywed, Congrats

[Mystikal]

kaeden's mommy it is possible to still be pg and just not have it show up on an HPT. I would call your doc for a blood test, that way you know one way or another, ya know? I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you!!
Shelby I forgot to congratulate you on your gig! I want to get into photography, too. :) I hope you can work out TTC issues...I know it sucks to have to push back your TTC date. ((HUGS))

Temp went up .1 degrees this morning, I'm only 4dpo for real this time so I'm not putting too much stock into it. *sigh* Got to get ready for work...have a good day, ladies!!

[ABirney]

bottleored so sorry for the loss. (HUGS)
lowcountrywed Congrats! H&H 9 months!
Question: Did you ladies have a preconception exam? If so, how long before TTC did you have that? Wondering if I should schedule one..... AF has been really weird this cycle.. started and stopped 3 times since Friday, plus with my low temps just wondering if I should have that checked out before we officially start TTC. (Which might be soon... got pre-approved for a home loan yesterday and meeting with the realtor Monday!! :D )

[babylove]

Question for any of you clomid ladies (and I've X-posted this everywhere to get an answer today!): Did you use Robitussin to help the CM problem? If so, when did you start taking it and how long did you take it for? Thanks!!

[Wrighty26]

ShelbyMay - I would honestly go with your gut on this! Good luck with your decision -- decisions like this are TOUGH!

Mystikal - a temp rise is a temp rise, you know? I think it's pretty common to go up and down during the 2WW! Good luck-- and definitely don't up any hope-- it's still early!

ETA- Babylove-- I did take Robitussin (bleech)-- but I didn't take it until CD 9/10 (about 5 days before ovulation)-- and I took it about 2-3 hours before BDing. There was no point in taking it before that-- because it's effects are short-lived....Green tea/EPO I started drinking/taking right away!

As for me-- I had a huge temp rise today-- woo-hoo! I am looking foward to the CH that FF gives me tomorrow :) As for testing- I'm pretty sure that I'll be testing as early as 12DPO...my LP isn't usually any longer than that... So only 10 more days of waiting-- one way or another...

[babylove]

Thanks, Wrighty! Did the Robitussin work? So you only took one dose on the days you BD'd? Green tea--Did you drink decaf? And how much each day?? And what is EPO? Sorry for all of the questions...I'm new to this!

[Wrighty26]

I'm definitely not an expert- but here are some answers :)

EPO- Evening Primrose Oil - It has all kinds of good effects and is generally recommended for women's health. It has been known to increase your fertile CM. It's important to stop taking it when you ovulate though- because it can cause uterine contractions (which, if you're pregnant-- is not good!).

Green tea- yes, I drank decaf-- I believe I drank Salada this month (it was on sale). I've heard conflicting stories- decaf vs. regular-- I honestly don't know which one is better!

The purpose of the Robitussin is to actually thin out your CM-- you don't produce any more of it necessarily. This is because it's an expectorant-- you know how when you have a cold- and you take an expectorant things "losen up"? It's the same when you take it before Bding. If your CM is already EWCM, then it may not help you taking the Robitussin-- it may make it too thin...

I hope this helps-- and if I got any of this wrong ladies, please correct me :)

[babylove]

Thanks, wrighty!! Just one more ?....what dosage do you take of the EPO?

[Lizard]

FF gave me crosshairs today, and I agree with them... Threadmistress, could you please move me to "Think I O'ed - Testing 9/19 - 9/25"?. We got our first High rating from FF this month as well, so I'm really happy and hope this is our month. 9/20 is our anniversary, so I'm not exactly sure when I'll test since we'll probably go out of town around that time. Knowing me, I'll test sooner rather than later though. :rolleyes:

ABirney - I was one of the few that didn't have a preconception exam. I just didn't see the point in it, after reading people's descriptions of theirs... it didn't seem like they'd tell me anything I didn't already know. However, if you think you're having issues then it's worth going to the doctor to get checked out... at the very least it might help ease your mind a bit.

[Wrighty26]

Thanks, wrighty!! Just one more ?....what dosage do you take of the EPO?

I take 3000mg a day (3 500mg with breakfast, and 3 with dinner)... I'm pretty sure that's the recommended dosage!

[mkvh]

Came in late this am. No time for SOs. Sorry!

My temp was about the same as yesterday, still above CL but not by much, just waiting for AF. Wondering if the two disturbed temps on CD 15 & 16 may mean that I actually Od later than I thought.

[kmmommy]

Mystikal - It is possible that I'm pg and haven't gotten a BFP. I'll give it a few more days to a week and then research it more.

[mkvh]

Ladies...stressing here in wait for AF.

Do you think there's a chance I didn't O until CD 19? I KNOW I had a dry up before that, and my CP definitely changed. But if I discard CD 15 & 16 temsp (which really probably should be discarded--one was w/o air conditioning, and the other was after about 1 hour of sleep), FF can't decide WHEN I O'd. It's possible that my fertile CM lasted thru CD 16, but I had a YI and couldn't tell.

HELP ease my mind that I had a nice, strong LP this cycle! Please!


ETA: Oh and for those of you who have VIP memberships, do you leave the Automatic Filter On or Off?

[Bellefior]

Question? Have any of you experienced really bad migraines and upset stomach during AF??? I had to call in sick to work this morning but plan on showing up in the afternoon. It also happened the first month I came off the pill. My husband would like to think its the Chinese food we had last night, but he didn't get sick and we had the same thing.

[mkvh]

Oh, yeah! In July, we were way with friends, and I was USELESS all day the first day of AF. Hope you feel better, Bellefior!

[jnshanna]

I'm really behind but I'm going to attempt some so's. I'm sorry if I miss you. :o

bottleored ~ I'm so sorry. My thoughts are with you.

ShelbyMay ~ That's a bummer that you have to hold off but it will all work out. Things happen for a reason.

Welcome back babylove!!

amurphy ~ Have a fabulous time and bring back pictures! I know I'm too late but I wanted to say it anyway.

Welcome shouldaeloped!

lowcountrywed ~ Congratulations!! :D

Welcome Brooke!

Sorry about AF marteneym. I've really come to hate her for always showing up. :mad:

ABirney ~ I had a preconception exam in June. It wasn't really that big of a deal though. I had my pap that I was due for and she prescribed prenatals. She talked to me about BD timing, what to avoid while trying to get pg and basically told me to "go for it". ;) Oh, I also gave a urine sample (but that's normal with a pap) and I got a full blood work done because I wanted to see how all my levels looked out of curiosity. I don't think it was 100% necessary but I enjoyed it and felt better with her telling me to go for it.

Wrighty ~ Congrats on the temp jump. It's looking good!

Congrats on the O, Lizard. Your BD timing looks awesome too!

I hope you feel better soon Bellefior. I do get those symptoms but not to the extreme like that.

mkvh ~ I'm not help because I suck at figuring out O dates. I hope someone can help ease your mind.

Well, this month's visit from AF hit me especially hard I think. I've been in such a funk all week and I wasn't sure why. I've come to realize that it must be because of my huge disappointment. I didn't think I would be that upset but I was and still am. It's just so hard to be positive. And I feel selfish for being so upset when it's only our 2nd month of trying. :o I'm on CD7 and AF has officially left the building. My DH will be very happy that we get to start BDing again. I think he's getting too used to this!

[Baby Lust]

Babylove, I was afraid of the Clomid s/e's too, but I really didn't experience much. A tiny bit of nausea and pretty bad headaches. I took them at night before bed just in case there were s/e's but this month I am taking them right when I get off work. Hope you can avoid them! Good luck! :D

Bellefior, Hope you feel better soon! I typically don't get sick with AF, but I know many women do. I would say hubby is wrong. :p

Mkvh, Sorry you are going crazy!! I think a there are a few options with your chart. If you think your way high temp is wrong, I would discard it. It really is way out of range with your others. What does your chart do when you discard those two wacky temps?

Kelly, Sorry your cycle is so confusing!! It is strange that you are spotting and no AF after such a long LP... are you positive none of those spotting days weren't AF? I would definitely call for a beta test... but I am super impatient! :p Good luck!

[mkvh]

Ah, you see, Baby Lust...therein lies the problem. FF moves my O date around based on interpretation method and whether I use the auto filter option or not.

Okay, if I discard both and change nothing else:

Advanced: CD 13 (SOLID)
FAM: CD 19 (DOTTED)
Research: CD 14 (SOLID) **I left it this way for the time being.

Different things happen if I 1)turn off the autofilter OR 2) adjust the 5 a.m. temps to 6 a.m.

THANK YOU! I appreciate your time!

[Wrighty26]

mkvh - your comments made me switch my stuff around too-- Using the research method of FF it gives me CH at 13DPO. Now I am SOOO confused. I guess it doesn't matter that much (though 13DPO gives us better timing!!!)....

[Baby Lust]

Mkvh, My my!! :p I guess if it was me, I would not adjust the 5am temps to 6am. I would leave them and make a note as to why they are open circles. And I always use the Advanced method, because I have found it to be the most accurate. Just my opinions :) I hope it all makes sense to you very soon! :)


I will go update in a few minutes... work has been crazy lately!!

[mkvh]

Thanks BL...I hope so too! At least next cycle I won't have to switch temp times in the middle

Wrighty, it's all very confusing, isn't it?? But YAY! for the temp rise today. I wouldn't rule out a CD 13 O for you based on your changes in CM and CP documented on CD 14...didn't we talk about the time of day for your O earlier this week, thinking it coulda been EARLY on CD 14?

Welcome shouldaeloped and Brooke!!

jnshanna: chin up, sweetie! You have every right to be disappointed. And I don't think you should feel selfish. Every month, we build it up to be 'the one', so the letdown is there. ((((HUGS!)))) Hope some BDing picks up your spirits a bit. ;)

Kelly: you are WAY more patient than I! Like BL said, I'd be calling the doc!

Lizard: WOOO HOO! ON THE TEMP RISE and the HIGH!!! Crossing all crossables!

babylove: good luck for a reproductive Clomid cycle! SEs STAY AWAY!

ABirney: nope, none for me. Doc said she would give me a script for prenatals at my last annual (before we decided to just go for it). I declined, but that's pretty much all she said I needed to do. And CONGRATS on the pre-approval! Happy house hunting!

Mystikal: sorry you're feeling discouraged. ((((HUGS))))

ShelbyMay: congrats on your gig!

Okay...hoping I got everyone...argh! Lots of action I missed. Thanks to those of you who looked at my chart! We shall see what happens... :rolleyes:

[b]

[kmmommy]

Baby Lust ~ The blood was almost all brown. Only red after BD pretty much and it was nothing. Could've been AF but very unlikely. That's why I'm waiting a little longer. I'm patient because Kaeden is keeping me busy! :D