TTC w/Charting - Fall Is On The Way, And Babies Are In The Making!

[Ryan]

Hey Ladies, sorry I have MIA lately I have been busy at work and I also figured that if I stay away for a bit I might not drive myself crazy thinking about it... (But I have been spying on all of you here just to see if there are any positives!!)

As for me: DH have been dtd every other night for the past week and god I am tired...lol... not sure if I O'd this weekend... think I may have but I am waiting for a temp spike just to be sure...

Have a great monday!

[Lizard]

Thanks for all the well-wishes ladies. Unfortunately AF did find me, so you can move me to Waiting to O anytime.

DH and I had a good talk last night and I feel better. He's very supportive around this time of the month, thank goodness. :) We basically said that "it is what it is", and all we can do is keep trying and start working with a doctor when we're able. We are in this together though... I knew that from the start but it was nice to hear it. :) I didn't tell him this, but I'm terribly afraid that it's male factor. My cycles are almost textbook, but we don't know anything about DH. He's been married before and they did not have any children, but supposedly never tried either.

I am overdue for my yearly pap, so I'm going to get that scheduled for this month and also talk to the doctor about what comes next. Even if the doctor says "Try for 6 more months", at least I'll have a deadline, heh.

[Lizard]

Oh, I almost forgot, I have an inspirational story for everyone. I know a guy on another message board, he and his wife have been battling fertility issues for a long time. They were blessed with a boy, who is now 3, and have been trying for another since then. Well, after a late-term miscarriage they decided to adopt an infant from China. They're nearly done with that adoption.

Now they've found out they're pregnant again.... with TWINS. So they will have 4 children under 3!!! They are thrilled, and God doesn't give you more than you can handle... but WOW! Talk about a change!

Another short note... one of my best friends delivered her 4th child over the weekend (another girl, they're all girls). She got to the hospital at 3:45 AM and had the baby at 5:15 AM. :eek: With her 3rd, she left work at 2:00 and had the baby at 5! I can only hope my labors go that quickly.

[amurphy]

Lizard: I'm so sorry that AF arrived, but you sound like you are doing really well....hopeful and at peace. Your cycles do seem to be "textbook," and although I can see why you might be wondering about the male factor, it might be that you get PG at the 6 months mark--the average amount of time it takes to conceive. Right?

Ryan: Hope all that "hard work" paid off!

katmg: You should BD tonight just in case...

babylove: The disturbed sleep could have affected your temp. I guess you'll just have to see what tomorrow's temp brings...

flygirl: Looking good! Keep those temps up!

CD12 and temps seems to be pretty much in line with last month's pre-O temps. My bbs are still big and sore, which is lovely. :rolleyes: Have I mentioned to you all that I have FOUR friends that are TTcing right now. I saw one of them this weekend and I was so nervous before I saw her--nervous that she was PG. I feel awful about it...but I was relieved when she said she wasn't. I know we all deal with these feelings at some point, but I still feel a bit bad about it.

[flygirl]

Yeah. I'm out. With a very short LP, too. Weird. So... I'm not really upset over it. I knew with DH's sickness & drugs, not to mention my own problems with meds, was going to make it difficult this month. And honestly, I think the longer it takes us the easier it'll be on us when it finally happens. DH is still in the "SWH (but not really expecting anything to happen)" stage, and let's be honest; I'd be a lot happier if he were more into it when it *does* happen. Add to that the fact that his schedule is so unpredictable. It was complete luck that he was home around my fertile time, but I can't count on it.

Besides all that, there's the practical side to look at. I live in a very hot state & I've always sworn I wouldn't experience my last trimester during the summer. If I were to get pg this next cycle, I'd be due the beginning of July, and I could probably handle that. Anything later & I'd be downright miserable. I've talked to DH about actually TTA for a few months but nothing's been decided. I think we'll just take it one step at a time.

So... I'm going to put myself in the TTA category for now, but I still plan to follow the thread & help out where I can. :)

PS. I can't believe how many of you are right at O right now! How nice to have 10+ cycle buddies :).

[amurphy]

flygirl: I finished my last post , went chart-stalking, and saw that AF just arrived. I'm sorry.

[Baby Lust]

Hey ladies! I'm back, and man do I have catching up to do!!

Thanks Fly for updating! I appreciate it, as always! :D

So sorry for all the ladies who were visited by AF! :mad: {{{{{{HUGS}}}}}} to you all!


O came early this month, but we covered our bases very very well so I am very excited for this 2WW to be "over"! Fingers crossed!

Off to read up between catching up at work! Hope to be caught up by the end of today! :rolleyes:

[katmg]

amurphy - I plan on attacking DH tonight when I get home from work - can't hurt, right? ;)

flygirl - I've contemplated the same thing. I swore I wouldn't be pg over the summer. But the way things are going, I don't care anymore. Plus, I figured I'd have to TTA for about 4-5 months in order to escape the heat down here.

Does anyone else's DH use their wacky chart as yet another reason why men can't understand women? DH's joke is that women are too confusing - he'll ask me what my chart is doing and I'll tell him I'm not too sure, it could mean this, it could mean that. He just shakes his head...

[polkadot]

katmg- Hope you get your hubby in time....i dont even tell B about my chart..he thinks i'm alittle wacky to begin with and just cant believe that we have to do **all of this** to have a baby...he thought it would be very easy...men..they are sooo silly :p

BabyLust- i hope this was the month for you...i hope to following you to the 2WW thread very soon...hope you caught the egg...

Flygirl- sorry AF showed her face...dont you wish she was a real person so you could tell her off...somtimes i even talk to her...does that make me weird? ;) I hope all works out for you...they say it happens when you least expect it...

amurphy- well we could be Oing around the same time...it would be neat to have a 2WW buddy...see you around the 2WW chart soon...hope its your month... And i am in the same boat as you allof my friends have either given birth in the last month, are pg, or are hoping to get pg...its baby season around here

Lizard- sorry you are out...maybe next month...here's to hoping...and tha is such a sweet story...i kinda have one of those too...my cousin had cancer in college went into remission and she got married 2 years later...well she tried and tried to get pg even tried Invetro 3 times it didnt work...as a family we did a superbowl pool where all th money went to them for another shot at it and two days before the SB...she found out she was pg...with no hormones, no nothing....and believe it or not she tried IV again last summer it didnt work and then she found out 3 months later she was pg again...so we now have Cade and Bryce...all concieved naturally and they are beautiful...stories like that give ya hope.... :D

Ryan- dont worry about cathcing up...everyone has another life right? Hope you caught the egg this month...

allright i think i got everyone...i am guessing i did not O yet...but i had major cramps and really htoguth it was it on Saturday but my temps havent risen much so i am off to get OPK's....

later girls :D

[Sabriel]

katmg My DH doesn't really want to know anything about my charts. He just wants to know if I've Oed yet and when AF starts. He's still in the SWH mindset, though. :rolleyes:

Baby Lust Welcome back! Hope you caught that eggie this month!

flygirl Sorry about AF. :(

And honestly, I think the longer it takes us the easier it'll be on us when it finally happens.

I agree with you on thisl, though maybe for a different reason. We are technically only SWH, and as much as I want a baby NOW I know that the longer it takes the better off we will be. DH is trying to find a new job, and I want to have more of our debt paid off before we have a baby. I admire you for waiting until you and your DH are more ready. It is something that I keep thinking about, but I'm not sure if I could do it.

amurphy Wow, 4 friends TTC! I have 1 good friend who is TTC. I have not told her yet that we are. They have been trying for about 6 months now, with no success. I actually hope that she get PG before I do, just because they have been trying longer. I may feel differently when she announces her news, though.

Lizard Great stories! I love to read things like that. :) Sorry about AF. :(

Ryan Hope you Oed this weekend!

babylove Sorry that your temps are driving you crazy. Maybe you were gearing up to O, but it got delayed? That could account for the + OPKs. I don't know much about Clomid, though. Hope things straighten out soon!

I am 6 DPO, and not obsessing too much. Yet. Have a great day ladies!

[Wrighty26]

I miss so much in like 4 hours :) I know I will end up missing people but here's a shout out attempt:

Katmg - My Dh doesn't think I'm crazy--but he likes to plan things, so to him this is kinda interesting. He hates the damn thermometer though! Good luck jumping your hubby when you get home tonight-- it definitely can't hurt :)


Baby Lust - Yay for Oing-- and covering your bases :) Hope the 2WW isn't too painful (wishful thinking, I know)

Flygirl - Sorry about AF-- the biatch! Maybe TTA for a few cycles will "renew you"-- and you'll get PG right away! You're still going to visit us right-- and give us your great input? :D

Lizard - Sorry about AF :( You have a great attitude about everything though -- I would definitely have your DH do an SA-- just to rule out male factor. There are viable options if it's the case. (I finally convinced my hubby).

Amurphy - I totally feel you on the "fear that your friend is going to tell you she's pregnant". I am in the same situation-- it's not that I don't want my friend to get pregnant... I just want to be pregnant too!

Polkadot - Hopefully you O today--- but keep BDing!

As for me-- I called the Dr. and scheduled an ultrasound for tomorrow--after the ultrasound, I meet with the Dr. and according to the nurse he should be giving me another prescription for Clomid. This time I'll be starting it on CD 5-- which I've heard is pretty normal-- but I assume that means I'll have a later O date-- but who knows! My problem doesn't seem to be an actual follicle growing-- I'm just not releasing it all the way or something.

In any case, I'm feeling more positive today!

[mkvh]

Hey ladies!!! I ditto what UTChick said...no WAY I can catch up after missing 3 days. So....

BOOOO!! to the witch....

Good luck to the testers...do we have any??

And BD! BD! BD! to the ladies waiting to O like me!
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Speaking of me, Tucson was great. But I found out while I was away that I have to leave again tomorrow morning for Milwaukee. And stay through Friday midday. Uh, hello...don't they know that THAT'S MY FERTILE TIME?!?!? Yeah, CD 13-15 there will be no BD. Great, just great. DH almost cried (literally) when I told him. He wants a birthday baby SOOO badly, and he is pissed(!) that I'm going to be gone. So I'm praying for either an early O (which isn't looking likely) or a delayed O due to the stress of travel. Ugh! And travel isn't even part of my job description!!

BTW, flygirl, you didn't happen to be in DFW yesterday in the early evening, did you?

[katmg]

polkadot - Good luck with the OPKs!

sabriel - My DH was the same way for awhile, now he asks random questions every so often.

wrighty - I think DH just wishes that the chart had concrete answers - you did O or you didn't. You O'd on this date or you didn't. Good luck with the doctor!

mkvh - bummer about O time. Hopefully you'll O early or late!

[cat_loverpq]

flygirl ~ I switched FF to FAM and it took away my crosshairs completely. When I switched it to Research it put them back at CD25. I am leaving it set on Advanced and I will just have to manually override it once I think I have O'd. I still don't think I have, but who knows at this point! I'm sorry that you're leaving us (temporarily), but PLEASE stop by and impart your wisdom periodically! :D

amurphy ~ I know how you feel about your friend *not* being pg yet. I just found out on Saturday that my cousin and his wife are TTC now, and my initial reaction was just a sinking feeling in my stomach. I tell myself that it doesn't matter if they get pg before me (and I don't even know how long they've been trying), but it still bothers me a bit. I would love to be pg at the same time as her, but I kinda want to get there first, kwim? She asked when we were having kids, and we've just been telling everyone "once I finish my master's" which will be this spring. We don't want anyone to know we are trying, and actually I'm kinda glad she doesn't know so she won't have the same conflicting feeings I'm having about her, you know?

Wrighty ~ Good luck at the u/s! I hope Clomid works for you this cycle!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Announcement:

Since we have grown so much in the past few months,
I think it is time to recruit a co-threadmistress!

This thread moves very quickly and there are always plenty of updates to do! So if anyone is interested in helping out, please PM me by the end of today and I will announce the new co-threadmistress tomorrow morning! :D

[flygirl]

Thank you, everyone, for your nice thoughts. You bet I'll still be around! You'll probably get sick of me offering advice when it's not asked for ;).

cat_loverpq, yeah, I looked a little more carefully & realize FAM won't call it because you need at least 2 deg temp shift. Don't you wish they could all be as easy as your first two? You know your body best, so take this with a grain of salt :). Your CM dry-up is perfect for a CD28 O, but I guess we'll see what your temps do!

mkvh, not yesterday, but I was there Thurs evening :). I would have been the tall blond lugging around a laptop case & two cats in an oversized carrier. I hope this means you were traveling AA! I'm sorry you'll be traveling again during fertile time, but don't get too down just yet. I still think you O'd CD15 last cycle, and you were CD17 the one before. Even without a delayed O (which is very possible), you will probably still have a decent shot this cycle, especially since you'll have all Friday afternoon & evening ;).

Wrighty & polkadot, I didn't even feel like calling her a bitch until the last half hour or so when cramps REALLY kicked in. Ugh. Wouldn't it just be my luck to get pg when we're NOT trying? :rolleyes:

Sabriel, your reasons aren't necessarily different. Most of DH's reluctance is because of the student debt hanging over our shoulders (both of us have it from flight school). DH *hates* debt with a passion (& I have to say, he's dragging me into that obsession) and doesn't want to spend money on ANYTHING until it's paid off. Including children. I think the obsession is amplified by what 9/11 did to us and how far it set us back. It's one thing to face legitimate student debt & have a plan to pay it off. It's another to have that plan smashed to pieces along with 4 airplanes & 3 buildings, and have no idea what the future holds. Which is the other thing holding DH back; the instability of the airline industry not knowing what's going to happen month by month. Our lives have literally changed so many times since 9/11, it's scary to bring a child into our lives and still feel so unstable. We talked this summer about how we have to accept this instability and not let it hinder living our lives, ergo not TTA, but that doesn't take the weight off your shoulders. I hate to say it, because it's so cliche, but you guys are still very young. If you 'do' think about waiting, even though you know you're emotionally ready, you will probably (not speaking from experience; just hope) have a much better experience with the whole process, and won't ever face a regret or a what-if.

katmg, you *do* have the heat worse than I, AND you have the humidity! So far this summer the highs haven't been below 95, except the 2-3 systems that came through, which slightly lowered the temp, but raised the humidity, making it even worse. On the one hand, you might think, what's so hard about sitting in the AC all day? But when I think about how frustrated I've been these past few months, I can't imagine how I'd be with pg hormones and feeling like an elephant. By the same token, though, you do eventually get to the "I don't care anymore" phase. I'm kinda there, but given other circumstances, I prefer to still have the option. But like I said above, it'll be just my luck to get pg when I'm not sure I want to be :rolleyes:.

Work calls. But I promise I won't be a stranger!

[almostthere]

Hope it is okay I join you ladies, I always lurked at WC but thought this time around I would join in. I have a DD (born 8/6/2003) and we just sorta decided that we were ready to start TTC again.

I have a history of potential issues (endo, dermoid cysts and partial ovary removal etc) and last time I had had surgery to remove scar tissue and edo in August (had been on 6 months of LUPRON previous for edo pain) and was told to TTC right away as my speacilist was sure I would have problems. We were not ready as my DH was in residency and charted to see what was happening (ie did I even ovulate was the question as we were not sure what was left of my ovaries) and low and behold one time on my 3rd chart we got careless and 14 DPO I had a positive test.

Anyways I decided to chart again this time and am in my first two week wait. Although I think we only BD once before I O. Anyways, thanks for letting join.

[mkvh]

katmg--thanks for the empathy! hoping the eggie will hold out!

flygirl--thanks for being you and being so supportive! Yup, I was on AA...not this time though...everything is soo booked for my return! I don't get home till 8:15 Friday. Boo! If all had gone according to plan, we SOO could've run into you on Thursday. But my flight was canceled. That would've been funny! I wonder if I could have recognized you from your wedding journal??
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So I took an OPK on Saturday, and you could see the faintest shadow of a line. Took one at about noon today, might have been too diluted, dug it out of the trash at 2, more of a line than Saturday, but still not positive. Sooo...with all the discussion about OPKs around here lately, how long before O do you start seeing a line (or do you ALWAYS see a line)?

Thanks!

[CTs_Punkin]

Just checking in... I know I haven't been around lately, but with my 45+ day cycles, I haven't had much to talk about.

Congrats to all the BFPs since I last wrote...
My heart & prayers go out to all those effected by Katrina (and now possibly Rita)

Nothing new with me... long cycle - still no O this month yet... I think come October, it is time for DR intervention. I've been off the pill for 10 months now, TTC since January and nothing. My move to CO really messed with my cycle, but had hoped that It would eventually come around. Looks like I need to get some intervention, as I want to be PG by end of year.... sigh....

Hope all are doing well and I will be checking in more frequently now.
Thanks,
MMT

[Dotsie]

mkvh - from what I know, once you get a postive opk you can ovulate within 24-48 hours.

[polkadot]

well...i'm back...i got 6 opk's from dollar tree (dh will be so happy i am frugal ;) ) only cost me 6 bucks. I took on and no line at all...so i guess i am not about to O like i thought...but i still have EW Cm so who knows...for those of you who have bought dollar tree or generic brand OPK...have they worked for you...i am scared not to BD incase its worng... :confused:

oh well maybe tomorrow that would be fun...its B's birthday would be awesome to concieve on his b-day...

:eek:

[Baby Lust]

Polkadot, I used the internet cheapies one month and couldn't get anything more than a smidgen of a line so I tucked them in the back of the cabinet and started using Target brand OPKs. Some people have really good luck with them, but I did not. Hope they work for you! Yay for being frugal! ;)

[Charting is Knowledge]

Last call for Co-Threadmistress "applicants"! :D

Thank you to everyone who has expressed interest so far! I truly appreciate everyone's willingness to help out! Had I known there was so much interest, I would have asked a long time ago! :p

The announcement will be made at 4:55pm tonite because that is when I go home! :p

Please PM me if you are interested and have not already!

[sarahncraig]

You can update me. We started trying this month!

SarahnCraig
TTC since: September 10, 2005

Thanks!!!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here!

Official "WELCOME!" Sarah! Hope you don't have to stick around long!

Almostthere, If you will post your stats, I will get you added to the roster! Welcome!

Bunny, Welcome! If you would like to add your chart link, feel free to post it!

[bunnybeth]

Update: I now have an online chart
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e5de5

And thanks for adding me to the list!

Ok, Mondays are crazy, so no time for shoutouts, but I did some skimming...

I don't care if my coworkers see me online, such as at CC or whatever, since we all do it. And, as long as we get our work done no one cares. But, I don't want *anyone* to know baby plans until I'm good and pregnant, so no obviously baby-related surfing. Maybe I will try to turn my screen and surf in a small window... but my monitor is a whopping 21" monster so it can only turn so far. ;)

[Charting is Knowledge]

Alright ladies! Here is the announcement!

I would like to thank everyone for offering to help out! It was a very hard decision to make, as everyone is so helpful and knowledgeable and fun. I am actually hoping the new co-threadmistress will be looking for a helper in about 9 days! :D

So without further ado...

Introducing your new co-threadmistress, Mystikal! :D Welcome to the team! I am very happy to have your help!


And just a reminder... we need 2 more BFPs to close this baby down!! :D Come on ladies! We can do it!!

[klav]

Mystikal! congratulations on becoming the co-hreadmistress!!!

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OK so I was looking at my chart and as far as I can see I O'ed one to two days' ago? I'm I right? but we will continue to bd until the end of the cycle.
I was going to take another OPK test but sence yesterday's was so light I was going to skip it and hope for the best.... :rolleyes:

[almostthere]

WC Name: Almostthere
Me: Sarah
Married since: 6-2-2001
Off BCP since: forever
TTC since: September 2005
Charting since: September 2005
Known issues/test results:
Chart:
Current status: two week wait

How do I upload my FF chart? - Thanks, Sarah

[Wrighty26]

Congrats Mystikal! Welcome almosthere :)

klav-- I'm going to say by your positive OPK that you ovulated sometime between yesterday and today....

[Dotsie]

Congrats mystikal and welcom Almostthere.

I had another positive opk today. This is the 1st month I've ever used them. Is it normal to get to + in a row? I am having wicked o pains and my ewcm seems to be drying up. I figure I o'd today or I will o tomorrow. I will finally get back to being able to take my temp tomorrow morning. I've been working tons lately so I haven't been able to get more than 2 hours a sleep a night. I'm off tomorrow...woo-hoo!!

[katmg]

Yay Mystical and Welcome AlmostThere!

Can't help with the OPKs, I've never used 'em.

[polkadot]

Yeah to Mystikal and welcome to ALmosthere...hop eyour stay is short and sweet....

i had a - OPK earlier but i think i will BD anyway...jsut to cover all the bases and b/c tomorows B's birthday! ;)

[Sabriel]

polkadot Have fun BDing! I agree, better safe than sorry!

Dotsie Yay for a day off! :D

Welcome Sarahncraig and almostthere! Hope your stays are short and sweet!

Congrats on being co-threadmistress Mystical!

Bellefior Based on temps, I don't think you've Oed yet. Keep BDing! ;)

CTs_Punkin Hope you get some answers and that you make your goal of getting PG by the end of the year.

[ABirney]

hey all... just skimming the threads from the weekend. My temp was waaaayyy up on Sunday morning but I'm attributing it to the fact that my in-laws house was about 10000 degrees and I was roasting. So I discarded it. It was down to a little more normal in my own bedroom this morning. I am having increasing amts/stretchiness of EWCM the past couple days so we are BD'ing every other day now. We'll see what happens!
Welcome almosthere ! Hope your stay is short and sweet!
Congrats Mystikal on being the new co-threadmistress!
Have a great night everyone!

[jnshanna]

Well, I haven't checked in for a while so I figured I better! I have been lurking :o and keeping up with everyone. :)

I don't have enough time for SO's but Polkadot, I took a dollar test yesterday and had NO line at all! I was really worried that O wasn't right around the corner like I thought. Well, today I took another dollar test and it was VERY positive. So just because you didn't get a line doesn't mean you might not be ready to O. :) Keep BDing!

I'm sorry that AF showed for so many lately. :( There were so many great looking charts out there! Yeah, I've been stalking too. :p

And to those that are waiting to test, best of luck!! I hope we get to close down this thread soon!

Oh, and congrats Mystical! :D

[Calla Lilly]

May I join as well? I also don't know how to add my chart from FF....

Me: Erin
Married since:
Off BCP since: 2 years
TTC since: September 2005
Charting since: September 2005
Known issues/test results: N/A
Chart:
Current status: waiting to O, CD 9

[shouldaeloped]

just popping in to say hello to everyone and welcome to the newbies!

I haven't been around much since I am in the REALLY boring part of the cycle. . not even close to O. probably another 10 days. boring, boring, boring.

hope everyone has a great day!

[amurphy]

Welcome Calla Lilly,Sarahncraig, and almostthere!

You guys really should have written "congratulations, mystical for being appointed co-threadmistress" because when you leave off the "for being appointed co-threadmistress," I get excited that mystical got a BFP! :D

I'm glad you are all talking about OPKs b/c I picked some up last night. I bought the Target brand and poas last night at 6. The line wasn't quite as dark as the control line....so do I wait until 6 tonight to poas again? What's the protocol here? Thanks in advance for your help!

[Dotsie]

From what I've read, they say to try and take an OPK around 2 in the afternoon. Women typically have an LH surge in the morning but it takes up to 4 hours for it to be detectable in the urine.

Welcome to all the new ladies!!

[Ryan]

Almosthere & Sarah & Bunny & Calla: WELCOME and try not to stay around too long… :D

MYSTIKAL: YEAH!!! :D :D :D

Amurphy, Polkadot, Sabriel THANKS FOR THE POSITIVE THOUGHTS!!!

Amurphy: I know exactly what you mean… except my feelings were a bit different… I saw my girlfriends who are preggo and I am happy for them but at the sametime very jealous… which is strange because I am not a jealous person but I guess this whole process is an emotional rollacoaster…. and I have no information re: OPK’s…

Flygirl: Sorry for the frustrations….

BabyLust: Fingers & toes crossed!

Polkadot: GOOD LUCK with the OPK’s.

WRIGHTY: Good luck w/ the dr’s and keep me posted because if this cycle I get AF I am going on Clomid myself and I would love feedback about it.

MKVH: Good luck w/ the traveling and I hope that eggie is waiting for you when you come back! And I wish I could give you some advice re: the OPK’s but those suckers just confuse the heck out of me.. and I cannot hold my tinkle in that long..:(
CTS Punkin: I feel your pain my cycles are so up and down and so long… hang in there….

Dotsie: Fingers crossed for you! No more then 2 hours of sleep .. god bless you!

AS FOR ME: Not sure what the heck is going on.. usually my temps spike to 98 something when I O but it appears they are still high 97’s but I am getting a little bloated and VERY IRRATIABLE…. so I am going to assume I did O…
So THREADMISTRESS could you move me to possible test date is 9/26-10/1

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here!

AMurphy, Your post made me LOL! Next we will be congratulating M on a BFP! :)

Welcome to the newbies! To post your FF chart, go to your charting page, click on "Home Page Setup" and your chart address will be at the top. HTH!

[Dotsie]

Threadmistress - please move me to having O'd and testing on the 29th or the 30th. Thanks

I haven't been able to temp all that well this week. Hopefully my crazy schedule will finally be calmed down enough. I was able to temp this morning. I'm almost positive I o'd yesterday. Now that puts me in the dreaded 2WW :rolleyes:

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here!

[polkadot]

Welcome Calla Lilly & Sarahncraig...hope your stay is short and sweet.....


well my temp dropped this morning so maybe that is a sign i am baout to O lets hope i get a + OPK this afternoon and i O on B's birthday...that would be awesome...

jnshanna- thanks that gives me some relief....i'll keep you posted about my outcome...

amurphy- i dont know about the generics from target but the ones i got from the $ store were very clear....the line has to be VERY dark for you to O ....so anything that isnt dark i would say...no, you didnt O....take abother today and keep us posted...good luck


Ryan: hope you caught the egg when you think you o'ed ... :D

Dotsie: hope you are right...isnt it funny how we just sit and wait to O ..get excited when you do and then complain b/c we hve to wait out the 2WW.....its a vicious cycle :rolleyes:



as for me...i'll be back later ...maybe i'll O maybe i wont....who knows? :rolleyes:

[jnshanna]

Welcome Calla Lilly!

LOL, amurphy. I thought about that when I posted my congrats to Mystical last night.

On my OPK box it tells me to take the test between 10am and 8pm and I've been taking mine when I get home from work at 5pm. I've read that the key is taking it at the same time everyday and trying not to drink so much a couple of hours before taking the test.

Well, my temp jumped up today so I'm pretty sure I O'd yesterday. I put in a couple high temps for the next two days and FF called it so I think it's safe to say I did. I'm so happy that I'm on to the next phase even though I'll be complaining in a few days. :rolleyes:

So, threadmistress could you please move me to Think I O'ed - Testing 10/3 - 10/9. Although I think I will end up testing on 10/1 because that is my 11th wedding anniversary. That would be soooo neat! I'll only be 12DPO then but I'm really hoping I could get a BFP on our anniversary. What a great gift that would be!

[Wrighty26]

I don't have time for shoutouts at the moment-- but wow! to all of you Oing :)

I just got back from the Dr.-- the ultrasound was fine-- I didn't have any cysts and my right ovary was measuring 8mm and my left was measuring 13mm (I think it's mm). My Doc was concerned about the short luteal phase, so he switched me from Clomid to Letrozole (Femara). I have to do my research, but from what he said and the little I've read it's similiar to Clomid with fewer side effects and is less prone to thin the uterine lining. Hopefully this will work :) I go back for my follow-up ultrasound next Thursday (I will be CD 14--hopefully just about to O).

Anyone have experience with Letrozole (Femara)??

Hopefully, I'll be by later to do catch up!

[polkadot]

today is B's birthday i have already baked and frosted his cake, made a **Happy Birthday** banner to hang for when he gets home, and done all of my laundry. Go me! ;)

I am waiting to take my OPK until around 1:30 or 2 which is when i took it yeasterday but i know i am Oing today...my temp dropped and i had lots o EW a while ago....so yeah...it woudl be awesome if we could concieve on B's birthday....wish me luck girls...

i think i may go and do my nails now.... :D

[klav]

AWWW how sweet Pokadot
boy you got alot done!! that's awsome
ya wanna come over a do my laundry!!LOL :p
That would be wonderful!! to Conceve on his B-day!!


Wrighty26 sounds like you had a good dr. apt. if a DR. apt could ever be good with them probing you? :rolleyes:
I have not heard of Femara but will have to look into it... is it better than clomid?

So nothing here 2 more day's of BDing ... my DH say's I'm wearing him out... what? he had a rest the other day hoping it was not a crucial day (sp) :rolleyes:

[polkadot]

ok...so i took a OPK at 1 and both of the lines were there but not Dark...the box says that if you get 2 lines and they are both dark you will O...but the other options are
1.no line at all
or
2. a faint line and a dark control line....

so actually i have had none of these....so do i put + on my FF chart or what...i know i am Oing today...pain on left side and lots of EW....and if i put three high temps in my chart i get an o today....what should i put + or -...i am thinking + but do you think its all in my head...i tired to take a pic put i couldnt get it clear enough for ya'll to see...


test bought at $ Tree...just so ya know

[Dotsie]

I have no clue with the $tree tests. I was totally confused. That's why I went witht he digital clearblue easy opk's. I would think that you haven't yet had a + opk. I though the other line had to be *as* dark as the control line.

[polkadot]

dotsie thats what i thought too...but both lines were the same color...they just werent really dark....so still confused...but i am taking it as a + i think b/c i am sooo sure i am Oing by the cramps and the CM .....so wish me luck ladies

[amurphy]

polkadot: Have fun tonight (whether you O'd or not--though I hope that you did)!!! :D

klav: I'm warning my DH tonight that the BD fest is beginning and I better not see him snuggling into the bed and turning on his side before doing his duties! :D

Wrighty26: Sounds like the doc's appointment went really well. I'm happy for you! I don't know anything about fertility meds...but I hope the switch works out for you.

jnshanna: Thanks for the advice. I guess I'll stop drinking my water now and take the test when I get home at 6:30. So you might be in the 2ww? Very exciting!!

TMI (CM) question: Sooo, I seem to remember reading that a round wet circle of CM on undies is usually considered Wet (fertile) CM. What if it also has some dried white CM in the middle of that wet patch? Discuss. ;)

[Dotsie]

oh, if they were both the same color, you have o pains, and you have EWCM then it sounds +opk to me!!

[Charting is Knowledge]

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[jnshanna]

Yep, I agree with Dotsie. If both lines were the same, I think you're probably positive, Polkadot. Maybe take one tomorrow too just to make sure (if you have one).

Wrighty ~ I'm glad the ultrasound was good and the dr didn't find any cysts. I don't know anything about Femara but I hope it works for you. :)

Wow Polkadot, you've been busy. I hope you have a great b-day night with DH. ;)

klav ~ My DH does the same complaining. Last night he said that I wasn't "romancing" him enough. What?! I was so shocked that he cared about that. Sheesh, he should be happy we're BDing like crazy. :p I didn't know I had to romance him too. ;)

[polkadot]

took another one...its exactly the same....no # ont he box to call for clarification....so i am going with a + and hoping that my temp goes up tomorrow so i can hunker down for the 2WW....

later girls...going to get ready for the big b-day dinner..chinese YUM~ :D

[Ericka_Jarett]

x-post from SWH thread

Hubby cracks me up sometimes. I am not officially charting this month as I told all of you. Well he thinks I am going to chart even though I said I wasn't officially this month.

He said so where will your cycle be in February for the possible Nashville trip. I had to count forward to tell him roughly how many days I would be in my cycle so he knows if BDing will work. I said I sure hope I don't have to wait that long to be pregnant, I would only be CD 6 if that was the case. I hope I am going to be 4 months pregnant by the time of the trip.

You can put me down as SWH, just so I am not totally removed from here. Praying I don't have to make a come back for at least a year or so, due to a BFP soon. Thanks

[Lizard]

Welcome to almostthere and Calla Lily!! I hope your stay is short and we kick you out fast. :D

amurphy - For your TMI question, I'd probably consider that a W. I am extremely picky about adding E's to my chart, LOL. By the way, you'd mentioned earlier about 6 months being an average TTC time... I really need to ingrain that into my head.... I know it but I don't think about it, ya know? From your stats on the front page, you're at 6 months as well.... here's hoping we're both average!! :D

As always happens in these cycles, I feel better each day that comes after AF starts, and I look forward to the next cycle. I've been considering stopping the charting for a bit and seeing what happens, but I can't seem to get away from the damn thermometer, sigh.

Well, today's our 2 year anniversary. We're heading out for dinner tonight (on my folks' dime, woohoo!), and I think I might indulge in a little drinky-poo or two. I feel like I damn well deserve it, ha ha. We're going out to a Japanese steakhouse, hopefully they have something other than Sapporo and saki, I can't stomach either of them.

Have a good evening ladies!!

[marteneym]

Way to many pages to do So's. sorry! Good luck to those in the 2ww, Sorry to anyone AF found. Hope that covers most everyone.

Friday morning I called the nurse back to get our lab results. My FSH and Rubella came back normal. Dh's SA on the other hand was abnormal.
Count 30mil (normal 39mil+) and the motility 30% (normal 60%). They said that he will need to repeat it in 8wks. If it is still abnormal we will do IUI. . We knew it could be a possibility that it was abnormal due to a Varicocele possible problem. When I mentioned this to the nurse she said that if the second is abnormal they will refer him to Urology and possibly for surgery. Dh is not to excited about this obviously. Basically, due to my irreg cycles and DH's issue we probably wont be able to get pg on our own without some sort of medical help (IUI/Surgery/etc).
I am a little disapointed in this, but am doing ok. I havent cried at all, I have been praying alot. If anything it is just helping me not get my hopes up for a BFP this month. I won't be reading into everything to closely during the 2ww.
As of right now I am still getting -OPK's. I wasnt even supposed to start them til cd12 so I am not concerned. CM has not been great. Normally I have tons but can tell the chlomid has dried me out. I got 3 applications of Preseed which I havent tried yet. Hopefully that will help. That is all for now. We will start Bding consistantly I hope this week. I am hoping for an O soon.

Please update my stats to:
Known issues: Delayed Ovulation, SA issues, Varicocele possible
9/9 FSH and Rubella- NORMAL
9/12 SA ABNORMAL- count 30mil/
motility 30% -repeat in 8wks

[polkadot]

Lizard- good for you...jsut keep positive and stuff the thermometer under the matress if ya have too ;)

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here!

Mart, So sorry about the results. :( {{{{{HUGS}}}}}

Ericka, I hope you are 4 months pg by then too! Good luck and don't be a stranger!!

[klav]

pokadot I think if the line is as dark as the control line then that is is when ou are to Oing the next 24 hrs or so.. but i'm no expert.

[Mystikal]

Quick post as I unfortunately don't have a lot of time.
First, thanks to everyone for the congrats!! I hope Amanda is right and that within the next month we are looking for another helper. :D

amurphy I would say wet. TCOYF says to always record the most fertile CM of the day. :)

Okay, off to bed as I'm a bit sick and need to get rested up. Night!

[Ericka_Jarett]

Thanks. Hope all of you ladies are off of here shortly.

[Calla Lilly]

Thanks everyone for the warm welcome! I have been lurking through everyone's charts. I must say you all have much nicer charts then me! I have such crappy sleep habits that my temps are all over the place.

[Calla Lilly]

Checking to see if my FF chart was added to my signature.

[babylove]

Threadmistresses, I think I O'd, so can you please move me to "Testing 9/26 - 10/2". Thanks!

***

For those of you who love to chart stalk, don't expect much out of my chart. I have decided to hide the thermometer for the rest of the 2WW. I had a bit of a meltdown a couple of days ago (posted about it, but it must have gotten lost in all of the action on here!) and realized that the temping is going to drive me crazy. I got my big temp spike yesterday morning, and that combined w/ all of the other signs (+ OPK, CP, CM, O pains, etc.) has convinced me that I O'd, so I'm outta here until either I get a BFP or AF (hopefully the former!). ;)

[klav]

hopeing for the best for you babylove.

I think I Oed on the 12 day a bit early I think but.... so. even though FF has not put a line up as to have O'd??? :confused:

Threadmistress and Co. can you move me to waiting to test 10/2 :p

[Sabriel]

klav I'm not sure if you have Oed yet. You still don't have 3 high temps yet.

babylove Sorry to hear about your meltdown. I hope you can find some way to relax in the 2WW. I hope this month is yours!

Calla Lilly Welcome! Hope your stay is short and sweet.

Mystikal Hope you are feeling better today!

marteneym Sorry that DH's SA results aren't what you wanted. I hope they are now able to point you in the best direction so you can get PG ASAP!

I am 8 DPO today and starting to get a little twitchy. I'm still hoping to hold out on testing at least until Monday. Hope you girls all have a good day!

[ABirney]

Welcome Calla lilly!
Good luck to Babylove
Sorry about the test results marteneym
As for me, I thought I was gearing up to O but now not so sure. I usually have a week or more of EWCM, with it getting really stretchy about now, but yesterday afternoon was about 3", but by last night there was hardy any at all. (usually last night would have been really stretchy, and then up to 5-6" within the next day or two.) Plus my temps have been a bit more erratic than usual the past few days. I HOPE I'm not having an annov cycle... the only one I've had since charting is my first cycle off of BC in Dec... just my luck I would have one my first cycle TTC. When I told DH that my CM was wierd, he said, oh so that means your pg?? LOL nope sorry bud. He's kind of dissappointed.. I think he feels he isn't man enough if he doesn't knock me up right away! LOL! We'll see what happens these next few days anyway.

[bunnybeth]

Welcome fellow newbies almostthere and Calla Lilly! (Calla Lilly, I noticed we're almost cycle buddies this month, you're just 1 day ahead of me.)

marteneym Sorry to hear about the test results. :(

ABirney Wouldn't that just figure to get a wacky cycle on TTC cycle #1? I'm hoping mine doesn't go wierd at all. But, there's still hope until AF shows up, right? I could totally see my DH feeling like that if I don't get knocked up right away either. He's already claiming I don't know the fertility of the men in his family... :rolleyes:

[amurphy]

marteneym: I'm sorry to hear about the test results. But many, many couples have successfully overcome bigger fertility obstacles. Wishing you and your DH the best...

Mystikal: Hope you are feeling better soon!

Sabriel: Just a few more days to go! You can do it!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here!

Looks like we have quite the test fest coming up! Best of luck to everyone! :D

[kmmommy]

Mart ~ Sorry to hear about the test results. Keeping you in my prayers.

Who knows what's up with me? I've given up trying to figure it out. We BD since I think I may have O'ed last weekend. Otherwise nothing new.

Sorry no time for individual SO's.

[cat_loverpq]

ABirney ~...just my luck I would have one my first cycle TTC. Ditto. That happened to me ~ 2 textbook cycles before TTC, and then WHAM! Annov as soon as we start trying. :rolleyes: I can't help but wonder if it is from all the anticipation/excited stress of finally TTCing. Keep BDing though, just in case! I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!

klav ~ I don't know that you have O'd either. With no CM dryup on your chart it's hard to say. I see that you had + OPKs, but your temp hasn't really been high enough to call an O. Just my opinion though!

polkadot ~ Best of luck! Fingers crossed that you O'd...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Still boring old waiting to O here. :rolleyes: I started a new chart after my annov spotting, so I am back at CD17 today (and my chart looks much nicer now). Hopefully my ovaries will decide to go back to normal and O this month!

Yesterday I found out that another co-worker of mine is TTC, and she just started charting this cycle. She was asking me all kinds of questions about charting and temps yesterday (I told her I've been charting, but NOT that we are TTC). It's kind of nice to have someone to talk to about this charting stuff IRL, but I can't really say much since we are keeping our TTC efforts a secret. ;)

[amurphy]

I had a quick question for you all. My co-worker took an Inverness HPT yesterday and got a thin blue line for the vertical line. She checked it after 10 minutes so I suggested that she test again since it could be an evaporation line. I felt bad advising that she not get her hopes up until she takes another test...but do you all agree it could be an evaporation even though it was blue?

As for me, I'm CD13 and didn't temp this morning b/c I shot out of bed when I realized I overslept! I'll take an OPK this afternoon.

[klav]

I don't have CM due to clomid??? so I can put anything there? I was due to O around the 12-14th day so I think I have. plus the OPK was dark on day 12? SO I'm going to hold to the O'ing thing for now because tomorrow I start Progest and then my temps will automatically go up..

[mel7dog]

Just dropping off some

~*~*~*Baby *~*~*~* Dust*~*~*~

For everyone!
Good luck ladies :)

[Charting is Knowledge]

AMurphy, I would think that was not an evap line, but she should definitely test again just to make sure. Typically evap lines are colorless, though this is not always the case. What did the directions say about how long to wait for a line? I assume 3 minutes...

[nuhmah]

Threadmistress, can you please move me to Think I O'ed, testing 10/3 - 10/9

Thanks!!!

I am so excited that I actually O'ed, and it was exactly when I thought it was! :) I officially know my body better than a website. ;)

[Charting is Knowledge]

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Nuhmah, Horray for knowing your body better than the website! :D

[amurphy]

chartingisknowledge: Well, I checked with her again and by "after 10 minutes," she meant that she didn't check the test until 40 minutes after poas. So, she broke the rule of not looking at the test after 10 minutes...but she has no idea when the vertical line appeared--whether it came up at 3, 10, or 39 minutes. Looks like another test is in order. Thanks for your opinion! :D

[klav]

has anyone tried primerose to help with CM? got and email from a web site saying it is useed to help with CM.. any thoughts? Willing to try anything or what about something they call fertilaid? anyone???

[cat_loverpq]

I think this has been asked before, but this thread is so huge I don't have the time to go back through it...

Sorry if TMI...

Here's my question: We BD'd last night, and after about 5-10 minutes of laying in bed I went to the bathroom to do kegels and get rid of any extra *stuff*. Today around noon I had what could be EWCM (about 5 inches and clear/strechy). I have gone to the bathroom at least twice (that I can think of) after BDing but before the EWCM, and there was never anything there during those 2 times. Is it possible the EWCM is still leftover *stuff*, or is it really EWCM?

I know there is a water test, but I thought that was to see if it is CM or arousal fluid, not CM or *stuff*. I know the CM is supposed to sink to the bottom in water, but *stuff* also sinks to the bottom (in the toilet at least)... Help! :confused:

I will consult TCOYF tonight, but thought I could get some opinions here first. :)

[cat_loverpq]

AMurphy ~ Don't you hate that feeling when you've overslept? Totally starts your day off on the wrong foot. :p

nuhmah ~ Congrats on knowing your body! Wish we were all so lucky!

Thanks for the dust mel7dog!!

[polkadot]

catlover- i posted the same question the other day...i even posted it on FF and they all said the same thing...if it sinks in Fertivle CM and to count it as such....i did....i was sick of being confused by cm so i went to the $ tree and bought 6 OPK's for 6 bucks...pretty good deal...i got a + (well actually 2 ) yeasterday ...maybe getting some OPK's would help the confusion. I would say count it as EW b/c most of the **stuff** should be gone by then anyway....good luck and keep BDing just in case so you can cover all the bases...

hope that helped...


as for me...
Threadmistress, can you please move me to Think I O'ed, testing 10/3 - 10/9

Whoo Hoo...we actually got the timing right this month....and on B's birthday to boot....now if i could just figure out a way to speed up this 2WW ....i have lots of lurking to do... :p

[nuhmah]

Hahaha! :D :D I just wish I could tell the website "I told you so." ;) :p

[polkadot]

please look at my chart and see what you think....i am almost positive that i o'ed yesterday, i got a + OPk and everything. I even felt cramps and had lots of EW. Well today i took a OPK and its still +. Do you know why? I have had some cramps today but i had creamy CM today and no EW....do you thinkits still picking up some of the **whatever hormone OPK's test for** or maybe i didnt O yet. But i did have a clear temp rise this morning....I dont think we will be able to BD tonight...thats why i am asking so many questions. SOrry thanks in advance for everyone who checks it out.... :D

[gator97]

Okay, my temp has been dropping over the last few days (normal for me) but today, DPO12, my temp rose! I was doing so well of not getting my hopes up, convinced I wasn't pregnant. . .and now I have this temp rise and it's undoing all of that. Officially obsessing now.

babylove- hope hiding the thermometer brings you some peace.

polkadot--it's possible but as far as I know, you have to wait for the three high temps (I don't use OPKs though). You won't know for sure without those three high temps.

[Charting is Knowledge]

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Cat, I would highly doubt it would still be "stuff" after that long. I'd call it EWCM.

[marteneym]

Babylust, ABirney, Bunnybeth, Amurphy, Kaeden's Mommy Thanks for all of your support. I am still trying to believe we can do this on our own without any procedures. Now I just need to get the chlomid to work.

Klav I am having the same problem with cm and chlomid. It makes it difficult to chart. I got some preseed and thathelps with bd but not increasing your cm. Good luck.

polkadot It looks like you could still have an upcoming O. I bet your temps will jump tonight.

[Soulmate]

klav I would seriously stay away from any supplements. I've seen too many supplements screw up people's cycles (yes natural ones). I'm a freak but I will not ovulate if I take evening primrose or flaxseed oil. Green tea delays my ovulation. On the FF boards many women got screwed up taking royal jelly and bee pollen. My opinion would be to use PreSeed or Femglide. If you really want to up your natural CM, fish oil supplements should work without negative effect. DO NOT use cod oil or cod liver oil. Fish oil is a magnificent supplement and is so incredibly beneficial once pregnant. It also really increases my EWCM and makes it thinner. Also green tea is tame enough but its effects work for some and not others. CM dry up is the exact reason why I stopped using clomid. Also you can ask your dr. to prescribe Femera instead of clomid. It works the same as clomid, is covered by insurance, does not thin the lining, and does not dry up CM. It also has a lower incident of multiple births and you get less side effects.

[Mystikal]

Sabriel thanks, I am feeling much better from the other day. Your chart is looking good! Lots of luck in holding out till Monday to test.
ABirney I tried checking out your chart, but it took me to the login page. I really hope you're not having an annov cycle. *~*~O Dust~*~*
marteneym ((HUGS)) Try and keep the faith. I'll be praying for you and your DH.
amurphy thanks! I'm feeling much better!
klav I've never heard of that, but I know that you can put eggwhite up your *ahem* to take the place of EWCM if you don't get any. :o
cat_lover the water test is for CM and *stuff*, but I can't remember which floats and which sinks...I tried checking TCOYF and just couldn't find anything on it. But I would agree that it is probably EWCM. Get your BD on!!! ;)
polkadot yay for great BD timing!!! :D Fingers crossed for you! BTW, I would also say that you O'ed yesterday. I think it's possible to get a +OPK the day after O...
Gator looks like a good sign to me!!!

As for me, I'm on CD6 (I think). I'm going to try temping once I start getting EWCM since I seem to get at least a week of it, and then once I have O confirmed by both high temps and a CM dry up I will stop temping. Plus, AF is supposed to show up while I'm away in FL for work training if my cycle goes the way it normally does. Niiiiice. ;)

[UTChick]

Baby love~ See you in 2 weeks! I understand about the meltdowns. I've had a few myself.

marteneym~ Sorry to hear about the test results. Hopefully things will look better at the 8 week mark.

gator97~It is so hard to keep that balance of being optimistic yet not getting your hopes up too much.


Well, I have an interesting situation. Yesterday morning and this morning I woke up burning up, like throw-the-covers-off-right-now hot. I temped immediately and it was 97.2 yesterday and 97.3 today. Both mornings I decided to throw the covers off and lie there (with my mouth closed of course) for fifteen minutes to cool off. I temped again and got 96.9 both days. Which temps should I use? It is really too early for me to have O'ed and I have had - OPKs since Sunday and no EWCM yet, so I really don't think I O'ed. And considering that my temp went down rather quickly leads me to believe the lower ones are more accurate. What do you all think?

And then here is another spin. I can't do OPKs until 5:30 or 6:00 when I get home from work. I know it is recommended to do them early afternoon but I am a teacher and that just isn't going to happen. I haven't seen a +OPK since July when I was home during the day. Could I be missing the surge?

[klav]

marteneym- yes I got the preseed also. I'm hopeing it helps.

Soulmate- thank you for the info. I know one of them that I was looking at said not to use with clomid but the other did not but I will heed your advice and not take anything other than what the Dr has prescribed.

Mystikal I'll think I'll pass.... :eek:

so tonight is the last night to BD so keeping my fingers crossed because tomorrow is progesterone time till the 28th day. so it will be another two weeks of waiting and seeing..... I have had sore BB but that happened before I do feel hungier than before or is that me just being piggie..LOL
SO I sit and wait now... ho hummmmmmm[/B]

[ABirney]

Hi all!
Good luck to all those that O'd... hopefully we'll get some BFP's soon!!!!
polkadot I think it's possible that you could have O'd but too soon to tell.... hopefully your temp will continue to go up the next couple days!
Well, I'm getting a bit frustrated with my CM. Today it was slippery and a little stretchy but not much.. maybe 3/4" or so. And it dissipated (sp?) fairly quickly, almost like normal moisture. I'm usually swimming in EWCM now. But we BD'd just in case. I marked it as EWCM anyway because it did stretch a little? Don't know if that's right or not. Also I think I fixed my FF link, so hopefully it should work now. (let me know if it doesn't!)

[Ericka_Jarett]

I have heard of the eggwhites, but they don't really recommend that since it has bacterias and that's the last thing you need to end up with while trying to get pregnant. They say it's best to just stay with lubes instead.

[polkadot]

Sabriel -Lookin good...keep thinking high

ABirney - you would think that we would know more about our bodies keeping track of all of this **stuff** but i think i just confuse myself more :rolleyes: Good luck...hope you catch the egg..(ps: everytime i look at your name i laugh there is a school near my school called Alice Birney..and everywhere you see it written it say A.Birney :p )

marteneym- hope clomid works for you and Dh....hugs to both of you and try and stay positive

klav- i've heard of the eggwhite thing but that kinda freaks me out and Dh would think i was nuts if i suggested that....but to each his own right...different thing swork for different people... :cool:
I have had sore BB but that happened before I do feel hungier than before or is that me just being piggie..LOL
i feel the same way... :D

cat_lover- the water test is in TCOYF i dont have the page # off hand but i looked it up last month...if it floats its **Stuff** if it sinks it CM...good luck and keep on BDing...

Gator- looksgood that would confuse me too though...

Mystikal- Doesnt she always show up when you have something important to do...good luck this month... :)


UTChick- ihear ya i am a teacher too but we have been off this week due tot he hurricane fiasco down here....my box says you can do the test anwhere between 10 am and 8 pm....i think you will still get a surge, maybe just try and do it ASAP when you get home....i started using them this month...i got a + yesterday and i was very sure i o'ed then i took another today jsut to be sure and it was + also , so you never know, you would think it would alleviate some confusion huh? guess not...justkeep on BDing....good luck :D

[mkvh]

Hiya ladies! Wow, lots of POAS (OPKs) and waiting to POAS (2ww) going on here! I am out of town for work...boo! So no time to SO...

But I did want to say, mart, I am so sorry to hear the less than positive results from your DH's SA. You both are in my thoughts.

Dunno what is going on with my cycle. Had two - OPKs before I left and left the therm at home...a couple of my journal buddies advised me not to torture myself missing O day! Based on the TCOYF rules, I THINK I had EW this weekend, which is weird, early for me. But I def. am creamy now this early (or late) in my cycle. CP is inconclusive. I usually only can tell in hindsight. So bottom line? I'm CD13 and have NO clue if I am going to or already have O'd! Argh! Gotta stay sane till I get home Friday!!!

[cat_loverpq]

Thanks for your input ladies!

DH told me tonight that he has it all figured out. He is convinced that my body is waiting to O until we go to New York next week. :rolleyes: He thinks deep down my body wants to conceive someplace exotic - well, more exotic than a small town in the midwest. ;) I told him I hope he's wrong and that I O in the next few days, but I have to admit that it is a fun thought, conceiving our first child during a trip to NYC...:)

[ds2003]

please update my DH's age to 32

[klav]

so today took temp not really high but put my O at day 14 so hoping something stuck... still think I O'd early and I have to call the dr to up my med's today just incase! yahy not fun.... :p

[UTChick]

polkadot~Thanks for your thoughts. I am completely confused right now about what my body is doing. It's like every cycle there is something new to wonder about and confuse me. :rolleyes:

cat loverpq~I always like the idea of conceiving while on vacation. It seems more fun than the "we gotta do it again tonight, honey" routine that tends to occur around O time.



This morning my temp was 97.4 and I did the same thing as the last two mornings - threw the covers off and lied there for 15 minutes. But this time my temp stayed the same, so I am using it. I just hope I am doing right by keeping the lower temps from the last two days. Oh well.

[Wrighty26]

Ack! I've missed so much...I don't even know where to start.

I'll just do top 10 because that's I can currently see-- hopefully nobody is offended!

Mystikal - Looks like we are on the same cycle day...I've thought about not temping after O too. I haven't decided what I'm going to do yet... the control freak in me wants to temp, but the other 10% thinks I should just chill out!

Kathy - I honestly would go with your initial temp. Yes, it may seem high, but it's not uncommon :) As for the OPK-- is there any way you can stick one in your purse and test at lunchtime? That's what I do.

klav - Hopefully you O'd! My fingers are crossed for ya :)

ABirney - You should mark your most fertile CM of the day on FF, regardless of how long it lasts. Weird that it's less than normal-- did you try something different this month?

mkvh - It's almost Friday! Hang in there :)
cat_loverpq - Awww... your Dh is so cute! Here's hoping you O-- next week :D

As for me-- CD 7... nothing terribly exciting going on either. The only side effects I've had with the new drugs is that my face is breaking out BIG TIME. My temps have been pretty consistent the past couple of days-- it's weird to see them so high during this phase-- but I consider that a good thing :) I'm wondering if I'm going to O around the same time again, since I started the drugs 5 days later. Anyone know how starting the drugs on a later date affects ovulation?

Hope everyone has a great Thursday :D

[Wrighty26]

Hey Kathy-- I just saw this on FF and I thought of you:

Is it usual to have my temperature range change from cycle to cycle?


Usually temperatures stay roughly within the same range from cycle to cycle if there are no changes in your environment or sleeping conditions. Slight changes in your environment or sleeping conditions, however, can impact your temperature range from cycle to cycle. Changing your waking time, using heavier or lighter blankets, turning on (or off) the air conditioning or heat, or seasonal changes can change the range of your temperatures. As long as you can still see an ovulation pattern on your chart, the actual temperatures are not critical. If you notice significantly higher or lower temperatures that you can not associate with a change in your lifestyle or environment, then this is something to mention to your doctor, especially if it is taking a long time to conceive.

I don't know if this helps-- but I think as long as you see a thermal shift you're good :D

[ellidew]

Well, i haven't checked in here in a few weeks because i've been trying to figure out what i wanted to do. I finally grabbed the weight loss bull by the horns and so far it is going great! I would love to be a cute little skinny pregnant girl so i've decided not to "try" for a while and see how it goes. It's going to be hard to get over the baby bug but i think i will enjoy pregnancy more if i am comfortable! Threadmistress: Can you please move me to Taking a Charting Break/TTA. Thanks! Wish me luck, i hope to be back in this thread in no time!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here!

Good luck Ellidew! Hope to see you back here soon! :)

[Baby Lust]

Bellefior, My DH is the same way. He says that it shouldn't be a chore and that I put so much pressure on him by saying "We have to do it tonite." At first I thought he was nuts, but I began to realize that he is right so this month we were very relaxed about it. BDing came so easily and he didn't think anything of it. It was wonderful! :p So don't feel bad that your DH thinks of it as pressure or a chore. Hubbys tend to feel like sperm donors when it comes to TTC. :rolleyes: Good luck!

[Ericka_Jarett]

My hubby was the same way, he felt like the only reason I wanted to have sex was to get pregnant, it was becoming a chore, so now I am not charting like I did the last 3 cycles. I have a good idea of what my body is doing now though. Now just SWH's

[ds2003]

We are in need of some BFPs. We are on page 63.

There won't be one from me anytime soon. I'm only on CD9. I took Femara again this cycle so I expect to O around Wed of next week.

[Baby Lust]

We are in need of some BFPs. We are on page 63.




I completely agree!! September is just not our month, is it? :( Come on eggies! Meet your match! :p

[klav]

I totally feel the same way it's getting to feel more like a chore than pleasure :( . expecially when you've been doing it for a year!

[cat_loverpq]

ellidew ~ I just looked at your weight loss chart...how much skinnier do you need to be?! You only started at 120 lbs! :eek::p That's pretty skinny in my book! Best of luck to you though! :)

Wrighty ~ Sorry about the break outs, that sucks. I have no experience with any drugs, so I can't help you.

UTChick ~ Luckily we haven't fallen into that routine yet (since we just started TTC). I just tell DH that he has a "date" with me and watch his eyes light up! :D

[ellidew]

cat_loverpg: I wish! I started at 221! :eek: I am down 8.7 lbs in two weeks so i am off to a good start. My goal is 150 so i can be 8 months pregnant and under 200! ;)

[cat_loverpq]

ellidew ~ Ok, apparently I'm on crack and my eyes are playing tricks on me...I swear that chart said 122 when I looked at it! LOL! :rolleyes:

[Ryan]

Hi girls .. can I have your opionion please... I ALWAYS DO THIS.... :mad: It appears that FF says my O date was on the 25th and I SWEAR it was on the 22nd or 23rd...... What do you girls think????

My CM is always so dry NO matter what I do... and so it is so hard for me to tell....:( and I was so happy until today when I put in my temp and I saw FF draw the line..... grrr...

For some strange reason my days that I O ARE ALWAYS LATER then when I think they are... and I am just so crushed... (Probably hormones) but I just felt like this was our month and I know "LADY IN RED" has not shown up yet... but still.... :rolleyes:
K so now I am whinning... I guess I will go back to work.

[klav]

Good For You Ellidew
Keep Up The Good Work!! :)
sORRY rYAN i KNOW YOUR FRUSTRATION( CAP LOCK)

[Charting is Knowledge]

Ryan, I agree with FF on your O date, but I am a little confused as to why you think this is not your month. You are just entering the 2WW... correct? :confused:

[Ryan]

Charting: Yeah I am entering the 2ww I guess i am just so used to being disappointed... :( ... and I know the dr. wants to put me on Clomid if it does not work this time.. because it is so hard to detect when I Am o'ing... I guess I am just hormonal :rolleyes: .... Poor DH I guess he has alot to deal w/ these next few days... me and my paranoid whinnyness..lol.. thanks girls for peaking...

[ajlanden]

I am going to barge in just for sec to ask a question...I plan on joining soon, but wanted to ask recommendation for a good thermometer with a memory function and/or light...every one I buy I have to get out of bed and turn on the light to look at. Thanks...

Good luck ladies! I plan on joining you soon! I hope you all are graduates before that happnens! Going back to lurking!

[kmmommy]

Hey Ashley! Hope you do join soon!

[polkadot]

well i am pretty sure i oed TUesday and i was goin to be cinvinced of that this morning when my temp stayed high but....i woke up this morning at about 5:30 with horrible cramping and upset stomach (if ya get the drift) and didnt temp and them when i woke up at 7...and took my temp it was very high but i presume that is b/c i didnt get right back to sleep after the bathroom and i ddint sleep for the noted 3 hours....so....i dont know...hoepfully things willbe back to normal by tomorrow...but i am still feeling very BLAH :o

later girls

[nuhmah]

My temps fell below the cross-hatches this morning. Is that normal? The 2WW totally sucks!

I would be interested in getting a BBT thermometor with a light, too!

[jnshanna]

I don't have enough time for SO's but I wanted to post the BBT that I got. It's great! The only thing that bugs me is that it beeps continuously until it gets your temp. This is supposed to be helpful so that you know it is working though. It's just hard when it's 6am. ;) I just put my finger over the speaker part and that muffles it a little. I used one without a light or memory the first month and it was such a pain. This new one makes my life so much easier!

BD Basal (http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.asp?pid=40512&catid=1332&trx=PLST-0-SRCH-HV&trxp1=1332&trxp2=40512&trxp3=1&trxp4=0&btrx=BUY-PLST-0-SRCH-HV)

[Charting is Knowledge]

That is the same BBT I have and it rocks! I would definitely suggest it!

Nuhmah, Looks like an "implantation dip" to me! Totally normal! :D

[ajlanden]

How loud is the little beeping? My daughter tends to wake up REALLY early if she hears me and I like to be ready before she gets up. :D Thanks!!!!

*ETA-Hi Kelly!! Thanks for the support in my journal. I appreciate it. It certainly makes me want to TTC #2 soon!

Nuhma-I was thinking implantation dip as well. I bet it goes back up tomorrow!

[Kristi32302]

Welcome Calla Lilly (my favorite flower by the way) and almostthere

marteneym Sorry to hear about your DH's diagnosis. I hope you have better results in 8 weeks.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Well, I have no idea if I Od or not this time. The past week has been so crazy that I have not had the time to do OPKs and other than that one little bit of ECWM, I haven't had much else. The way the week has been going I am lucky to even remember to temp every morning.

Sunday I got some upsetting news. My little brother had gotten his girlfriend pregnant. He called me before they told anyone. He asked what I thought what my parents were going to do. We spent about an hour on the phone. I car pool with my mom to work every day and I was dreading being in the car with her and know what was going to happen in the next few days. They have told both sets of parents and it went over better than I expected, but my parents are worried that things are going to be very ruff for my brother. His girlfriend is about 4 years younger than him and a very high maintance type person.

So that has been my week. I hope everyone is have a good week so far. ITA with who ever posted that we need some BFPs in here.

[UTChick]

Michelle~Thanks for the info from FF on my temps. The thing about work is that once I get my kids to the cafeteria line and get to the teacher's lounge, I have about 17 minutes to heat and eat my food. Plus, the restrooms are right there in the lounge, so when I walk out, there are people sitting at the tables. I don't really want to walk out with my stick! Maybe I can do it during my conference period when I don't have meetings.

Bellefior~I completely understand. Last night when we BD'd it wasn't fun at all. I was tired and cranky but didn't want to miss out on this month just because of that since I never know when I am going to O. DH said (literally to my stomach), "Come on Baby D, I'm getting really tired of doing this all the time!" How sad is that?!?

polkadot~Hope you are feeling better.


Well, I took an OPK when I got home today and it was not quite positive, but the closest to a positive I've seen since July. So...we are back on for tonight!

Haven't chart-stalked in awhile, so I think I might go take a peek. :)

[klav]

I would love one with a light exp. with the winter dark am's coming butmine only beeps when it's done think about three times

[ABirney]

Hello ladies! Hope all is well with everyone.
nuhmah I'm guessing implantation dip too!!! Keeping my fingers crossed for you!
Ryan I agree with FF on the O date.
bellefior I don't know if I'd call O yet so maybe you're ok, but (hugs) for being mad at DH... hopefully that will get better!
polkadot Hope you feel better soon!!! I don't know if that rise is from your sleeping pattern last night, but hopefully it stays up! That's also funny about the school name!
ellidew good luck with your wt loss journey, hope to see you back soon.
ajlanden I use the Omron digital BBT. It doesn't have a light but it does have memory, so I just look at it later in the day. It also only beeps when you first turn in on and when it is done with the temp, not a constant beep. I got it at Walmart.
Kristi (hugs) about your brother. Same sort of thing happened to me.. my little bro got his gf of 3 months pg.(except she was 4 yrs older). She is also high-maintenence and we had seen the snooty side of her before that. We were less than thrilled. They ended up getting married and she turned out to be a great mom.. in fact they are expecting #2 in Jan. Hopefully things turn out as well with your brother.
catlover have fun in NYC!!!!! Hopefully you will O soon! That would be a nice souvinier!
I was hoping to O this weekend because it is our 1st anniv on Sunday but doesn't look like it's going to happen. I just had a small amt of sticky CM today. I'm not sure why it's less than normal... I haven't been doing anything different. Maybe it's like catlover said and my body is interpreting the excitement of TTC as stress... I sure hope not!
I had to go to the chiropractor today too for the first time in 6 yrs... my back has been achy for quite a while but last night after BD'ing I raised up to put a pillow under my hips and OUCH!! I had a sharp pain in my lower left back it almost brought me to tears. And today it still felt like it had a catch in it. So I broke down and went in and he said my pelvis was tipped forward and it was throwing the rest of my spine off. So he adjusted me and boy am I sore tonight! I don't think I could BD comfortably... hopefully that goes away soon!
Anyway have a great night ladies!

[Kristi32302]

Thanks Abirney A is not really snooty, but very much a mommy's girl. I hope everything works out too. They are planning on getting married soon so that A can be put on J's insurance. But they just have no idea what they are in for. Congrats on the new niece or nephew.

[nuhmah]

Nuhmah, Looks like an "implantation dip" to me! Totally normal! :D

Phew... I'm "normal"! :D :p

I have been trying to read about the triphasic cycles and such - my chances are so low this month that I am not expecting to get a BFP, but I can still hope, right?

[UTChick]

Michelle~You were right. My temp went down again this morning from 97.4 yesterday to 97.2 today. I guess my pre-O temps are just higher this cycle for some reason. Interesting...

[Wrighty26]

Kathy - What's funny is that my temps are higher too! Maybe this will lead to good things for the both of us :)

[Dotsie]

yippee.. I had a pretty big temp rise this morning. Keeping my fingers crossed for all of us!!!

[klav]

Ok my temps are acting a bit strange stayig at 97.7 I know I'm only on day 2 of Progest. but .... anyway emailed my DR and asked her opion on staying on clomid or doing IUI and she said she would go with IUI so I told her I wold do one more dose of the clomid . that would put us at Nov. a year to the date. so that we could do IUI. So I had my blood drawn again that I was suppose to have done in june today. hopefully that will be the last of the blood drawing. DH has to have his done again. and I'll make some phone calles this sat about getting back in the IUI class sometime in Nov. hopefully a monthes notice to get into a class on sat. will be enough.
So that is were I am... if it does not work this month or next we are IUIing it!!

[Ryan]

Good morning Ladies... TGIF!

Anywho, sorry about the emotional outburst yesterday... I think FF just thru me for a loop and it just upset me all day.... :eek: BUT I went home and had a margaritta!!

Numah: I think I remember you from the wedding channel, did you live in upstate NY.... (well Ulster county) ???? And I think we chatted about Krauses Candy.....let me know...:)

COME ON BFP

[amurphy]

Weak attempt at SOs...

Ryan: Emotional outburst are allowed (and expected) here! We all understand the need to vent. :D
Klav: Good luck!
Dotsie :D
UTChick>: My temps took a long time to drop this cycle. It is frustrating--plays with your mind a little bit.
nuhmah: Keep hoping, lady!
ABirney: Hope your back feels better soon!

OPKs have been a pain since the only time that I can hold my pee for a substantial amount of time is when I'm sleeping. I also drink a ton of water during the day. I took one yesterday around 10 a.m. but it was light...not sure if that's because of the coffee & water I drank or because I'm no where near O. I do have W/EWCM, dull cramps, and a big temp fall this morning. So, I'm hoping I don't have too much longer to wait. I O'd at CD15 last cycle and CD27 the cycle before that...we have a lot of ground to cover. Oh. This is kinda funny. I knew that DH and I were going to stay up later than usual last night to watch ER. So after dinner, I suggested we get our BDing done immediately so we could sleep right after the show was over. That's kinda sad!

[Calla Lilly]

Would someone mind looking at my chart? (Keep in mind this is my first month of charting) FF indicates I may have O'd yesterday...I know I need to wait a couple of days to confirm it...but the temp shift doesn't seem that great compared to earlier in my cycle. I have taken OPKs this week and they have all come back negative. If it matters, I have a pretty regular 26 day cycle. Any thoughts?

[jnshanna]

If anyone has time I'm wondering if someone might be able to look at my chart too? :o

FF shows that I O'd on CD18 but based on my OPK it could have been anywhere between 18 and 20. I'm also using the trial version of Ovosoft and it is calling CD20 as my O date. Also, if I change the detector on FF to Fertility Awareness it changes my O to CD20 as soon as I enter a temp for tomorrow. I'm kind of bummed if I did O on CD20 because we were tired and stopped BDing on Monday even though I knew we should have BDed at least one more time to cover our bases. :rolleyes: Bummer....

[klav]

Calla LillyI don't think FF has indicted that you Oed yet?? It's hard to say becuse it looks like you have not taken your temps at the same time in the AM. you should be takeing the OPKs about the 10th day from what I have been told sence I have a reg. 28 day cycle. SO I would start on day 9 and keep taking them until you get a dark line I took one and got nothing so you have to take another. the test line should show up if nothing else. not sure if I helped? :confused:

[nuhmah]

Numah: I think I remember you from the wedding channel, did you live in upstate NY.... (well Ulster county) ???? And I think we chatted about Krauses Candy.....let me know...:)


Yep, that is me!!! So many of your wedding ideas and pictures became a HUGE inspiration for my wedding - how are things at Home?

[nuhmah]

well, my temps went up this morning just like some of you predicted - it went to the highest yet!

This waiting game sucks... but I guess complaining in this thread is like singing to the choir. ;) :D

[Calla Lilly]

Thanks for looking at my chart klav. I should clarify that FF hasn't called it an O, but said I may have O'd and need to wait on my temps to clarify it. I was surprised by this since I have been looking for large jumps. I did start using the OPKs on day 9, but haven't received any positive results. I guess I should add that I am excited by the prospect of having O'd, because I have never knowingly O'd (haven't looked for it). Okay...I should probably stop rambling about now...But thanks for checking out my chart!

[gator97]

And no sign of AF. Frustrated to say the least!

[Sabriel]

Calla Lilly I agree with what FF is tellingyou. You may have Oed, but you'll have to see what your next couple of temps are.

nuhmah Waiting does suck! I am going crazy over here! :rolleyes: Hope you are able to keep your sanity.

klav Glad you have a plan! I hope you don't have to use it though!

I'm 10 DPO today. I am not sure if I will test on Monday or Wednesday of next week. FF says I should test Monday, 13 DPO. My longest LP so far has been 14 days, so I may wait until Wednesday to test if AF stays away. That will put me at 15 DPO. I would like to hold off until Wednesday, but I don't know if I can wait that long!

[polkadot]

Calla Lilly - you probably did o..just wait unitl FF gives you an O....i got mine today!

nuhmah- Your chart is looking good...looks like a perfect implant dip...hop ei get one too....good luck...crossing crossables ;)

klav- Good luck to you too...looking good.... :)

gator-your chart still looks good too...dotn ya just hate that frustration!

Sabriel-you have such willpower...i could never wait...after i saw any tyoe of dip...i would be a POAS fool....good luck :D

as for me....i was right! i did o on Tuesday..so i am offically at 3 DPO...now...all i have to do is wait...sound like lots of fun huh? I hop eit works this time is would be soooo awesome...i am offically crossing all crossables :D

[Baby Lust]

Morning ladies! Just popping in to see how everyone is doing! Looks like we have a bunch of testers coming up! :) 7DPO for me... planning on testing Monday morning. Tons of FPS but I am trying not to pay attention to them. :rolleyes:

[CTs_Punkin]

Just a quick update..
My cycle is over - AF has arrived in all her witchy glory this morning...
I am going to give my body one last month to see if it can get it's act together, then it is off to the Dr.
I haven't really worried about my long cycles the past 5 months because my DH & I moved to a different state, I got a new job, and we bought and moved into a home....all very stressful things.... so now that things are calmer and we have moved in and are relatively settled, it's time for my body to act like it.

So this cycle is it's last chance before Dr intervention!! I haven't ovulated since I moved here (I don't think) - even though FF gave me a cover line last month, I don't think it's accurate... the thermal shift was BARELY there and it didn't really rise like my previous Ovulatory cycles.... so wish me luck, and hope my ovaries are going to play along.

Hope all are doing well and that the Testers bring some good news in here over the Weekend!!

Best & happy Friday.
MMT

[klav]

pokadot how do you get you chart to over lay like that?

[marteneym]

Mystikal, UTchick, Polkadot, Mkvh, and Kristi Thanks for all your words of encouragement and prayers.

This thread is moving to quickly for me to keep up right now. Sorry I can't do SO's. I did want to say to MMT sorry AF found you. I hope this next cycle brings your BFP.

[Baby Lust]

Just wanted to post a quick SO to anyone in Rita's path. I hope you are all safe and that your belongings most important to you are safe. You will all be in my thoughts and prayers this weekend as she makes landfall. {{{HUGS}}}

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here!

So sorry about AF CT. Hope this next cycle brings you a clear O and a BFP in the end! Sometimes all you have to do is threaten your ovaries with intervention and they kick into gear. :)

Belle, Hope you end up needing to test anyway!

[polkadot]

klav if you go to the FF site and mychart , then click on analysis....go down to overlay charts and it gives you instructions on how to...if you have anymore probs...post here...hope that helps :D

[klav]

GOT IT THANKS POKADOT!! :p

[gator97]

CT - Sorry about AF. Here's hoping this next month is it for you! (maybe just the threat of Dr. intervention will be enough!)

I just had the dreaded reaction today. We have a couple who are really good friends of ours. I got her into charting before they TTC. They started trying in July and we just found out this evening that they are pregnant. .. .about 8 wks. I think. I was already feeling bad and I just burst into tears (luckily we were told over the phone so the tears were hidden). I feel horrible that my first reaction was feeling sorry for us rather than feeling happy for them. I feel awful. But at the same time, I can't help but cry.

Thanks for letting me vent. I'm not sure what DH knows what to do with me right now.

[UTChick]

gator97~That is absolutely normal and don't feel bad for what you are feeling. It is completely natural to have that first reaction. Of course you are happy for your friends, but right now your prevailing feeling is disappointment that it isn't you. That is ok. I went through that a couple of months ago when my charting buddy got pg. We started charting at the same time and bam! she got pg on her second cycle, I think. It's hard and you should let yourself cry if you need to. You'll feel better if you do and in a couple of days you will be ready to be really excited for her.

CTs_Punkin~ Yes, that is a lot to go through in a short amount of time and that kind of stress can definitely affect your body. It is good that you have a plan in place. Maybe just knowing you have a plan will help to relax you and take some of the stress off. Best of luck.


Well, I finally got a +OPK today and some watery CM!! So the BD fest continues. I just wish it was more EW than watery, but maybe that will change.

[babylove]

gator ~ {{{{HUGS}}} I've totally been in your shoes. I introduced my friend to charting and she got pg on the 3rd cycle. I wanted to crawl in a hole when she told me.

[polkadot]

Gator- i had the same thing happen to me at school when we went back on Wednesday....we both were talking about TTC at the beginning of the school year and she came back from the hurricane break and announced she was PG....i didnt cry or anything (yet) but it still stings...just a little... :rolleyes: if i dont get a BFP this cycle i will probably start to get emotional...i'll try not to get totally freaked but if it doesnt happen soon...i may get worried and wanna get some DR. help....just try and stay positive...like they say it willhappen when it happens....my mom alway used to say...new house new baby...any chance you could buy a new house? :D

good luck!!!!

[ABirney]

Hello ladies!
CTPunkin sorry about the witch. Hopefully things will settle down this cycle and you won't need that Dr visit!
klav same thing for you... good luck though if you do need the IUI.
gator (hugs) about being upset about your friend's pg and your bfn. It doesn't look like you're out of the running yet though! Give it a day or two.
Dotsie, numah, and polkadot nice charts!!!
jnshanna I agree with CD18.
calla lilly see what the next couple days do... I think it may keep rising!
babylust keeping my fingers crossed!
For me, my EWCM finally came back right before bed last night. So hopefully things are moving in the right direction again! DH is positive that today is the day for some reason, he said he just has a feeling that it is. So we'll see what happens!

[ABirney]

polkadot I just saw what you wrote (we posted at the same time) about a new house.... DH and I just started house hunting this month as well... Hmmmm hopefully there is something to that????? :D

[gator97]

Thanks for the hugs everyone. I started feeling much better last night. DH and I went out to dinner and had a great talk. While I'm still feeling sad, I am also feeling genuinely happy for our friends. Also, this means when we finally do get PG, we won't be the only ones! Even though we are 30, very few of our local friends have babies (only one!) So, it will be nice.

I think overall this cycle has been frustrating b/c it's my first cycle post-laparoscopy and I just thought it would be so much better but all the pain is still there. . . .so that is a bit frustrating. And b/c the pain was there, I assumed it would be a lost cycle.. .but now my hopes are up.

Polkadot--no house hunting in our future! but a nice thought :)

[amurphy]

gator: I'm a little behind with the SOs, but I just wanted to assure you that your reaction to your friend's PG announcement is completely understandable. It is tough anytime you are striving for something and someone else achieves it first--and with, what feels like, less effort. Your time will come. In fact, your time might be here now. Your chart looks good!

abirney: Come on O! I hope your DH is right! And good luck with the house-hunting. It is such an exciting and nerve-wracking experience.

Fingers crossed for all those testing!!! I'm off to chart stalk.....

Back to say that I'm CD17 and my temp shot way up today. I think it may be from our night out last night, but we'll see what the next few days bring. I did take an OPK at 11 a.m. yesterday and it was almost positive. So, who knows what that means.

[nuhmah]

amurphy - fingers crossed for this round... but I am glad to hear you enjoyed your trip to Paris!! DH and I went to Paris for a few weeks last summer (he works for a company in Coubervoire -across the Seine), and I had a fabulous time. :) I think my favorite part was (sadly), going through the crypts!

gator - so glad you are feeling better - funny how long talks over good dinners make life seem better. ;) Yay for the temps staying high!

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My temp skyrocketed this morning - the highest yet, again. We went to dinner last night, as well, and had a great evening! Hope everyone has a great weekend!

[Dotsie]

I'm behind on S/O's as well.

Ctpunkin- sorry about AF.
Gator - I totally understand how you feel. I have a coworker who is 12 weeks pg and it kills me every time I have to see her "waddle" into our office in her maternity clothes.
Abirney - Hopefully your DH is right and today IS the day. Good Luck!!
UTchick - Enjoy the BD fest. Hope you catch the egg!!

Sorry if I missed anyone. I had another huge temp rise this morning. Hopefully that means good things :) FF never gave me an O date even though I know I o'd on Monday/Tuesday. My chart for a few days was nonexistent because I was working about 20 hours a day and was getting no sleep. Thankfully that trend seems to be gone now so I can get back to charting like a normal person. I'm going to be testing Thursday or Friday. I'm so scared to poas. I want so bad to see 2 lines.

[gator97]

Holy Moly Temp Jumps, NuhMah and Dotsie! Hopefully this means good things to come.

[UTChick]

There are some good looking charts out there! Maybe September won't be a bust for us after all. :)


Question:

For those of you who get O pains, where exactly do you get them? Yesterday and last night I had some twinges and pains on the right side of my abdomen just in from my hipbone. I feel silly that I don't even know where exactly O pains would be. I'll feel even sillier if that is nowhere near where it is supposed to be and it was just gas or something. :o

[Calla Lilly]

My temp is the same as it was yesterday...not certain if that is a good sign or not.

UTChick- I have been looking for O pains too, but I have never noticed any.

nuhmah- your chart is looking good!

gator97- I think your feelings are perfectly normal. I have felt a little bit like that even before I started ttc. BUT little gator will need playmates....

Abirney- I hope your dh was right!!!

CTs Punkin- Sorry about AF...I hope this is your month!!!

Sabriel- I can't believe you are thinking about holding out until Wed! I def do not not have that type of will power.

Sorry I didn't get to everyone...I hope to be back later today to finish.

[Dotsie]

UTchick - I get o pains right where my ovary is. This month it was on my left side. The pain is a couple inches from my hipbone. This month it hurt so bad that at times I had to sit down. I hope that made sense :confused:

[UTChick]

Calla Lilly~ I have never noticed this before. I have IBS and tend to get stomach aches/abdominal cramping pretty often, so the only reason I was thinking it might be O pains is because I had a +OPK. Otherwise I would have attributed it to something I ate. I have always wondered how people knew they were having O pains since I had never noticed anything like that.

Dotsie~Yeah, that is exactly where the pain/twinges were. There were a couple of times last night when I had to stop and press my hand against the spot to alleviate the pain. Interesting... Thanks!

[Wrighty26]

UTChick - Last month I had definite cramping on the right side directly under my hipbone. Later it the pain actually moved down below my abdomen.... Oddly enough, I didn't have ANY cramps with AF!! So strange.

It's definitely sounding like O pains for you :D

[UTChick]

I sure hope you all are right. After Oing on CD 30 last cycle, it would be lovely to O on CD 20 or 21 this time. :)

[gator97]

UT - that is exactly where I feel my O pains. . . a few inches in from my hipbone.

[Wrighty26]

I think my body is playing on tricks on me. I'm on CD 9-- my last day of Femara-- and I started spotting (brown). So, I took an OPK, because it could very well be ovulation spotting and of course it's positive. (side note:I have very little CM...)

I think that Femara can cause a false positive-- but I can't actually find where is specifically states that ANYWHERE (it usually just say "fertility drugs").

Of course, Dan is stuck at work and I am absolutely exhausted (I realize this is a side effect of the Femara-- it makes me tired) so if I AM ovulating-- we're SOOOO not going to be timing it right this month.

If I'm NOT ovulating-- why the hell am I spotting? If I am ovulating--WTF?

I'm not freaking out-- really-- I just wish I knew what was going on!

[gator97]

So, I went to Target yesterday and while I was there picked up some Accu-Clear HPT. Took one as soon as I got home.

And, on it appeared the faintest of faint lines. So faint, I thought I was seeing it because I wanted to see it. So, I ran outside to DH who was mowing the lawn and asked him if he saw it. It's faint, but there is definitely a line. (Not exactly the way that I envisioned telling DH but . . . I needed another set of eyes)

So, this a.m. I took another. Same faint, faint line. .. it's barely there but I guess a line is a line. So, I'm not sure I am ready to call it yet b/c it's so faint, but hopefully I'll be back here in the next few days with a BFP. It really feels so unbelievable right now.

Good to know my rantings these last few days have been pregnancy hormones and not prolonged PMS!


Wrighty - hope you are abe to get some answers soon. I hate confusing cycles.

[Wrighty26]

OMG Gator!!! A line IS a line :) Woo-hoo! Congratulations -- I know this has been a tough road for you!

On my side of things-- I think I could be ovulating. I guess Femara can cause shorter cycles. In any case- we're going to act like I am and cover our bases today and tomorrow-- I'm just disappointed that it may not be enough :(

[Dotsie]

Gator - A line is a line. When I got pg with my DS th