TTC w/Charting - Wrapping Up August With More Exciting News!

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TTCers of ConstantChatter:
Charting Our Course to the BFPs


http://www.ripleysorlando.com/images2/fertilitystatues.jpg
The fertility statues are known to work for some who rub them around the time of possible conception.
It is said that the baby is the most potent part of the statue.

So rub away! :D It's worth a shot!


Who we are:
This is a group of women using charting (temperatures, CM, CP, OPK/FM results, or a combination of these) to try to conceive and, along the way, are learning a heckuvalot about their own bodies! Many of us use a software program to keep track of our charts as well as allowing us to share them with each other. The most common ones are FertitlityFriend.com and Ovusoft.com.

Your threadmistress for this thread is Baby Lust!
If you have any questions, comments or suggestions, feel free to email me! (charting_is_knowledge@yahoo.com)


To our members:
This thread gets very busy at times, so in order to keep things less overwhelming and a bit more organized, we start a new thread each month as well as after 3 BFPs. A link to the new thread is always posted at the end of the current thread to help everyone find their way over. The threadmistress would really appreciate it if everyone would post their updates in Red. That way, if I get a bit behind, it is much quicker to get the thread up-to-date.


Previous Thread... (http://www.constantchatter.com/showthread.php?t=4485)


KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!

Want to join the fun??
We welcome one and all. It doesn’t matter if you have never charted before or if you’ve been charting to avoid. I am sure you will find lots of help and support in this group.

If you would like to join, CD1 is the time to do it! That way, we can cheer you on
throughout your cycle, rather than 2 days before you test! :cool:

Please don't be discouraged by the number of posts in this thread. You don’t have to read the whole thread to join. Feel free to just jump in on the last page. Just read through these first couple of posts and post a reply with the following information and we will get you added right away. Of course, none of this info is a must but we like to know a little bit about one another.


WC Name: If Applicable
Me: name/age
DH: name/age
Married since: date
Off BCP since: date
TTC since: date
Charting since: date
Known issues/test results:
Chart: link
Current status: waiting to O, What the bleep .., testing...

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- Member ETF Status-

Lutealating:

Think I O'ed - Testing 8/29 - 9/4:
Ellidew (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/78d2a), jjsanner (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/24f94), jnshanna (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cafa6), JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf), Klav (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21291), Lowcountrywed (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c4aeb), Ryan (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3f12b), SarahnCraig (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c1846), ShelbyMay (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/67c07), UTChick (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf25d)

Think I O'ed - Testing 9/5 - 9/11:
Polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d)

Folliculating:
Waiting to O (aka - Boring Part of the Cycle)
Akachan93 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/229b9), amurphy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a5e06), Applebee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/98534), Bellefior (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6231d), bumble, Catloverpq (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/da20b), CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas), cat_loverpq (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/da20b), dlj78 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=dlj78), ds2003 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ds2003), Ellebelle (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2f8f5), Emermel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ef4), Ericka_Jarett (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/22964), Gator97 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/84b2d), gymwidow (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/813ab), Ilovemygeek (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bec65), Kaeden's Mommy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bcdb2), Katmg (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/89994), Lizard (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/af125), Marteneym (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fa78), Mayham (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/be39e), mkvh (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99502), mrsT2b2003 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/alt), Mystikal (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/RaeK622), nuhmah (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/d72dc), Sabriel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c), SilentBunny (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ae6c8), Spencer's_Girl, Wrighty26 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/beb7b)

Stagnating:
What the *bleep* is going on?!?!
hbeshore (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/721bb)

Taking a Charting Break/Temporarily TTA:
Baby Lust (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Shanes_Angel) - SWH until September, Babylove (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=lotsofbabylove) - Taking a break, GMB4503 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/28f73) - Taking a break

Percolating:
Expecting Mommies!

August:
crazycaro (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21ac6), LittleStar (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c204a), Mel7dog (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ca05d), Missy329 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2b4de), Stumbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b1333). Uskiku (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cdfb0), MMHinCA (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c14c1), Indiana Bride (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1d936), Guinness (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=10&id=guinness&tc=0&p=)

July:
Elenitsa (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=13&id=elenitsa&tc=0&p=), Heidi0622 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/549f8), Jane&Andy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c455f), Kopper (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/9e5e6), MrsCantDecide (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59e5b), Red_Canuck, Sevilla, ShannonGH (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ShannonGH), Tracie (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/a18c8), Tunibell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59461)

June:
Christy5599, Lovin'it

Tributatoring:
Proud Cheerleaders!
Flygirl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/flygirl),t3h_wookie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/25336)

Please advise if I’m off-target with your ETF (that's Estimated Test-Fest) or other status, or just need a good old-fashioned Ovary Shout!

-- Please remember to post all updates in red! Thank you!

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Our Members:


Akachan93 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/229b9)
WC Name: Akachan93
Me: Angela/30
DH: Todd/39
Married since: 4-20-02
DS: Charlie 2-13-04
Off BCP since: 12-04
TTC since: 12-04
Charting since: 2-05
Known issues/test results:
None that we know of

Amurphy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a5e06)
Me: murphy/30
DH: 33
Married since: 8/2002
Off BCP since: 4/2005
TTC since: 4/2005
Charting since: 6/2005
Known issues/test results:
chemical pregnancy in June

Applebee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/98534)
WC Name: Applebee
Me: Lori Ann
DH: Ted
Married: 4.4.03
Chart: since Feb '05
Known issues/test results:
Day3 Test all ok, DH's SA ok, but will have another one done. Motility on the low side

Baby (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Shanes_Angel)Lust (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=strawberry+lemonade)
WC Name: Shanes_Angel
Me: Amanda/22
DH: Shane/27
Married since: 10/19/02
No longer avoiding: 10/03
Charting since: 6/04
TTC since: 3/04
Known issues/test results:
B/W: 12/04 - Normal SA-high count, low motility, no ovulation; 50mg Clomid April/May;
Chemical pregnancy 6/13; 100mg Clomid June

Babylove (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=lotsofbabylove)
Me: babylove (Tracee)
DH: Kevin
married: 08/31/03
Off BCP: November 2004
TTC: March 2005
Known issues:
m/c @ 6w4d in April 2005; short LP corrected w/ progesterone supps

Bellefior (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6231d)
WC Name: Bellefior
ME: 36
DH: 35
Married since: 5/31/03
Off BCP since: 5/05
TTC since: 5/05
Charting since: 5/05
Known issues/test results:
None

bumble
DH: 33
Married since: 8.2003
TTC since: 4.2005
Charting since: 1.2005
Known issues/test results:
miscarriage 6.2005 (8 weeks)

cat_loverpq (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/da20b)
Me: Cortney
DH: Glenn
Married since: 6/5/04
Off BCP since: February 2005
TTC since: 8/19/05
Charting since: February 2005
Known issues/test results: none

crazycaro (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21ac6)
Me: Caroline/32
DH: Jason/33
Married since: 20 September 2003
Off BCP since: Wasn't on it
TTC since: April 2005
Charting since: 1 June 2005
Known issues/test results:
I have a unicornuate uterus

CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas)
WC username: ManzekM
ME: MMT age 33
DH: CT age 36
Married: 11/04
Off BCP: 12/04
TTC since: 01/05
Known issues/test results:
Long cycles

dlj78 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=dlj78)
WC Name: dlk78
Me: Dana/27
DH: Nick/31
Married since: 9/18/04
Off BCP since: 2/2005
TTC since: 6/2005
Charting since: 2/2005
Known issues/test results:
none that I know

ds2003 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ds2003)
Me: 27
DH: 31
Married since: 11/08/03
Off BCP: 12/03
TTC since: 6/04
Charting since: 7/04
Known issues:
dx PCOS 7/04, annovulatory
Test results:
DH's SA-normal; HSG 1/14/05-normal; Ovarian Drilling 5/20/05-all other findings normal
Meds: 3 failed Clomid cycles (50, 100, 150 mg); Currently only taking 1500mg Metformin

Ellebelle (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2f8f5)
Me: 27
DH: 34
Married: 06.21.03
Off BCP: 08.03
Charting Since: 08.03
TTC Since: 06.05
Known issues/test results:
none

Ellidew (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/78d2a)
Me: ellidew, 25
DH: 27
Married since: June 1, 2002
Off BCP since: 01/2005
TTC since: 07/2005
Charting since: 01/2005
Known issues/test results:
none

Emermel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/28ef4)
Me: Emily 27( Almost 28)
DH: Todd 30
Married since: May 12, 2002
DD born January 17, 2004
Off BCP since: May 2005
TTC since: June 2005
Charting since: August 2005
Known issues/test results:
None

Ericka_Jarett (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/22964)
Me: Ericka (31)
DH: Jarett (27)
Married: December 14, 2001
DD: Rebekah Joy, April 18, 2005 @ 24 weeks, lived 71 mins than passed to Jesus
Charting: June 2005
TTC #2: June, 2005
Known issues/test results:
None

Flygirl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/flygirl)
Me: Jen, 30
DH: Jeff, 35
Married since: 2/22/03
Off BCP since: 4/03
TTC since: Cheerleading
Charting since: 4/04
Known issues/test results:
none

Gator97 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/84b2d)
Me: Kristen/30
DH: Peter/30
Married since: 11/06/04
Off BCP since: 12/04
TTC since: 2/05
Charting since: 12/04
Known issues/test results:
none

gymwidow (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/813ab)
Me: Melissa/28
DH: Alan/29
Married since: June '03
Off BCP since: Feb. '05
TTC since: June '05
Charting since: Feb. '05
Known issues/test results:
none known

hbeshore (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/721bb)
WC name: htravelo
Me: Holly, 29
DH: Jason, 31
Married since: 6/19/04
Off BCP: 10/03 (I think)
TTC since: 9/04 off and on
Charting Since: 1/2005
Known issues/test results:
None

Ilovemygeek (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bec65)
Me: Rachel (22)
DH: Trevor (23)
Married since: June 8, 2002
Off BCP since: June 12, 2005
TTC since: As soon as my cycles regulate themselves
Charting since: June 12, 2002
Known issues/test results:
None

jjsanner (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/24f94)
WC Name: jjsanner
Me: Jen, 30
DH: Eric, 33
DS: Elijah, born 2/6/2004
Married since: 4/26/2003
Off BCP since: 10/2004
TTC since: 6/2005
Charting since: 10/2004
Known issues/test results: None

jnshanna (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cafa6)
Me: Shanna/29
DH: Jose/30
Married since: 10/01/94
Off BCP since: Haven't been on BCP for many years.
TTC since: July 2005
Charting since: 8/07/05
Known issues/test results:
None

JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf)
Me: Jody, 32
DH: Scott, 31
Married Since: August 30, 2003
Off BCP Since: At least 10 years now
Charting Since: January 2005
Known issues/test results:
None

Kaeden's Mommy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bcdb2)
Me: Kelly, 24
DH: Jared, 23
Married since: 8/2/03
DS: Kaeden: 8/15/04
TTC since: April 2005
Charting since: June 2005
Known issues/test results:
none

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Members continued...

Katmg (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/89994)
Me: Katmg, 26
DH: Jim, 30
Married since: Nov. 8, 2003
Off BCP since: 05/04
Charting since: 08/04
TTC since: 05/05
Known issues/test results:
None

Klav (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21291)
Me: Koren/ 33
DH: Dennis/32
Married since: Oct11,2003
Off BCP since: Jan 2003
TTC since: seriously jan 2004
Charting since: Nov2004
Known issues/test results:
may have a blocked tube but lap of '03 showed nothing.

Lizard (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/af125)
Me: Liz (30)
DH: Chris (33)
Married since: Sept. 20, 2003
Off BCP since: May 2005
TTC since: May 2005
Charting since: May 2005
Known issues/test results:
none

Lowcountrywed (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c4aeb)
Me: Melissa, 27
DH: Mark, 30
Married: 09.01.2002
Off BCP: 01.05
Charting Since: 07.05
TTC Since: 04.05
Known issues:
chemical preg (05.05)

Marteneym (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fa78)
Me: 22
DH: 27
Married since: October 4, 2003
SWH since: October 2004
TTC since: December 2004
Off BCP since: September 2004
Known issues/test results:
Delayed Ovulation

Mayham (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/be39e)
Me: 28
DH: 28
Married since: 5.02
Off BCP since: 9.03
TTC since: 3.05
Charting since: 5.05
Known issues/test results:
None

mkvh (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99502)
Me: 28
DH: 31
Married: 3/19/2005
Last Depo Injection: 12/04
TTC Since: 7/05
Known issues/test results:
None

mrsT2b2003 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/alt)
WC Name: mrsT2b2002
Me:30
DH:36
Married since: 9/7/03
Charting since: 2/05
Known issues/test results:
None

Mystikal (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/RaeK622)
Me: Rachel/25
DH: Joe/31
Married since: 6/22/02
Off BCP since: 11/2002
TTC since: 5/05
Charting since: 10/03
Known issues/test results:
short LP-taking B6, magnesium, and zinc

Nuhmah (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/d72dc)
WC Name: Porter2Be
Me: Jennifer/27
DH: James/32
Married since: December 18, 2004
Off BCP since: July 2005
TTC since: August 2005
Charting since: August 2005
Known issues/test results:
none

Polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d)
WC Name: ladibugglet
Me: Lauren/26
DH: Brian/26
Married since: Nov, 20, 2004
Off BCP since: may 20 2005
TTC since: July 2005
Charting since:5/28/05
Known issues/test results:
none

Ryan (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3f12b)
WC Name: Ryanm33
Me/Age: Ryan/ 28
DH/Age: Joe/28
Married Since: 12/13/03
OFF BCP Since: 12/03
TTC Since: 03/05
Charting Since: 12/03
Known issues/test results:
None that I know of...

Sabriel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c)
Me: Cherish/24
DH: Jon/23
Married since: May 22, 2005
Off BCP since: never on BCP
TTC since: August 10, 2005
Charting since: May 8, 2004
Known issues/test results:
none known

SarahnCraig (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c1846)
WC Name: sarahncraig
Me: Sarah/34
DH: Craig/34
Married since: November 15, 2003
Off BCP since: June 19, 2005
TTC since: will start in September
Charting since: June 26, 2005
Known issues/test results: no issues

ShelbyMay (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/67c07)
Me: Shelby/25
DH: James/27
Married since: 5/17/03
Off BCP since: early September 2004
TTC since: 2/16/05
Charting since: 9/08/04
Known issues/test results:
possible semen allergy/antibodies

SilentBunny (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ae6c8)
Me: Kirsten,34
DH: Sean, 31
Married since: May 22, 2004
Off BCP since: End of january, 2005
TTC since:February 2005
Charting since: Consistently since April 7, 2005
Known issues:
Crazy-ass long cycles which run in the family; "mild PCOS"; started 500mg Metformin; will increase in a week. After a few months, if no baby, will look to Clomid.

Spencer's_Girl
Me: melissa / 23
DH: keith / 34
Married since: Sept. 11, 2004
Off BCP since: August 26, 2004
TTC since: Sept. 11, 2004
Charting since: November 20, 2004
Known issues/test results:
None

UTChick (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf25d)
Me: Kathy 27 (28 in August)
DH: Mike 34
Married since: September 20, 2003
Off BCP since: December 2004
TTC since: May 2005
Charting since: May 2005
Known issues/test results:
None

Wrighty26 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/beb7b)
Me (Michelle): 27
DH (Dan): 27
Married: 12.28.02
Off BCP: 01/2004
Charting Since: on and off since 2004
TTC Since: 05.05

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Things I Have Learned About TTC
by WC's Sherylb

* TTC is a journey. You will discover things about yourself that you never expected. You will face fears you never thought you had. You will find joy in little things.
* TTC can bring you closer to your DH, or it can pull you apart. If your marriage is not solid, you will find out quickly.
* No one understands exactly what you are feeling at any given moment, but someone can empathize at least a little bit.
* You will experience an emotional roller coaster ride. There will be highs and lows and fast moments and slow. Sometimes you have to wait in a very, very slow moving line. You may not even get the seat you want. It is not always fun, it can be scary, but in the end it is worth it.
* "Just relax" is the last thing in the world you want to hear from someone, but it is OK if you say it about yourself.
* There will be moments when you question your own decision to start TTC. You will wonder if you should wait or if you should just give up. Those are normal. But you will get past those feelings.
* The blue and green turtle likes to pop its head out! You will hear of someone's pregnancy and turn green with envy and blue inside because it isn't you.
* It isn't fair, it isn't easy, and it isn't pretty. But you keep doing it because the reward is worth it.
* You will be your best friend and your worst enemy. Your body will
surprise you and yet disappoint you.
* Some women do get lucky and conceive right away. Others aren't so lucky and have to struggle to get there. Hope you will be in the first category, but prepare yourself to be in the second.
* Once you decide to TTC, there will be babies and pregnant women everywhere! You could swear there is a baby boom going on!
* You will have questions. No one will ever be in exactly your position, so don't be surprised when no one can give you exactly the answer you are looking for. But there are people that can contribute, so don't be afraid to ask!
* Two lines on a pregnancy test is not the end of the struggle. Pregnancy has lots of struggles in and of itself.

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HTP sensitivity chart

These numbers might come in handy when shopping for HPTs. The lower the amount of mIU measured, the more sensitive the test is!

AimStick Pregnancy Test Strip 20 mIU
AccuHome Midstream Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Pregnancy Test (Cup) 25 mIU
Clearblue +/- 25 mIU
Clearblue Digital 25 mIU
Confirm 1-Step Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Dollar Store Brand Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Equate Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
First Response Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
One Step Be Sure Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Precise Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Quickview Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Walgreen Digital 25 mIU
e.p.t. Home Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
Fact Plus Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
CVS Cartridge Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
CVS Midstream Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Drug Emporium Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. + / - Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. Certainty Digital Test 50 mIU
early Pregnancy test 50 mIU
RiteAid Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Target Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
WalMart Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Walgreens Pregnancy Test 100 mIU

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- Common TTC abbreviations
This is a list of some of the more common TTC abbreviations. I know as a newcomer to the TTC threads, it can be hard to keep them all straight. I hope these will help, and if anyone has any they would like added, please let me know!

•2WW: "2 week wait" - The approximate time from possible conception to menstruation due date; Pregnancy tests should be taken near the end of the 2WW.
•AF: "Aunt Flo"; Your period; Menstruation
•AFNW: "Aunt Flo Not Wanted"; the day your period is expected to start, but you are hoping it doesn't!
•AO: anovulatory (cycle without ovulation)
•BBs: "boobs"; breasts
•BBL: "be back later"
•BBT: Basal Body Thermometer; This is used to measure your basal body temperature, when you wake up in the morning, after at least 3 hours of sleep, before you start to move around; Use a special BBT thermometer to take your temperature because they measure the small changes in temperature from day to day more accurately than the regular fever thermometers.
•BCP: Birth control pills
•BD'ing: "baby dancing"; baby-making intercourse
•BFN: "Big Fat Neutral" or “Big Fat Negative”; Negative pregnancy test.
•BF'ing: breast-feeding
•BRB: "be right back"
•CD: cycle day; a particular day in your menstrual cycle (example: CD1 is the first day of your period)
•CL: Cover Line; a visual tool used to separate the low (pre-ovulatory) temps from high (post-ovulatory) temps; a coverline is typically based on the temperatures 6 days prior to ovulation.
•CM: cervical mucous; one of the most useful clues your body can give you in predicting your fertility; it can range from dry, creamy, sticky, or (the most fertile) egg white/watery type.
•CF: cervical fluid; same as cervical mucus
•CP: cervical position; an optional, but sometimes really useful, fertility sign; CP will generally be low, firm and closed before and after ovulation, and high, soft and open during your fertile time.
•DD: "dear daughter"
•DH: "dear husband"
•DS: "dear son"
•DPO: Days Past Ovulation; number of days from your post-ovulatory temperature rise. (Example: 1DPO is the day after your ovulation)
•Endo: endometriosis (can be a fertility problem)
•EDC and EDD: estimated date of confinement (antiquated, but still used by physicians) and estimated date of delivery
•EPT: a brand of pregnancy test, or, generic for "early pregnancy test"
•EW or EWCM: egg white cervical mucus; the most fertile quality CM; it is slippery, clear and stretchy, like egg whites; also EWCF
•FAM: Fertility Awareness Method; the method of fertility and/or birth control that correlates the physical changes you experience during your cycle to predict when you are most fertile
•FF: Fertility Friend, an online (free, for basic services) fertility charting site (website); (could also be formula feeding; check context)
•FM: fertility monitor
•FMU: first morning urine
•FP: follicular phase; the phase before ovulation, where the egg matures in the ovaries
•FRED: First Response Early Detection (pregnancy test)
•HCG: human chorionic gonadotropin; the hormone that is present during pregnancy and what the HPT's and blood test measure to determine if you are pregnant
•HTH: "hope that helps"
•HPT: home pregnancy test; a urine pregnancy test you can take at home
•IMHO: "in my humble opinion"
•IMO: "in my opinion"
•IUI: intra-uterine insemination
•IVF: in vitro fertilization
•KU: knocked up
•LH: leutenizing hormone; the LH surge is what is measured by the OPKs; this hormone signals the egg to burst from the ovary
•LP: luteal phase; the phase of your cycle that begins just after ovulation and continues for 10-18 days, ending with the start of your next period; during the LP, your body continues to build up the lining of your uterus, and produce hormones which would support a pregnancy; this is the time when a fertilized egg can implant into the uterine lining
•NFP: Natural Family Planning; similar to FAM, but with abstinence during the fertile period
•O, Oing, Oed: ovulation, ovulating, or ovulated
•OPK: ovulation predictor kit; tests for presence of LH surge that usually precedes ovulation by 12-48 hours; these tests are quite expensive and not always accurate (if you take medication or depending on your age); these are optional when charting with FF, but if your fertility data is not clear it can bring more light and help interpret difficult cases
•OS: Ovusoft; charting software based on TCOYF
•PCOS: polycystic ovarian syndrome (a fertility problem)
•PG: pregnant
•PIAC: pee in a cup
•POAS: pee on a stick
•RE: reproductive endocrinologist
•SA: semen analysis
•SH: "sweet husband"
•SO: "significant other"
•SYS, SYL : See ya soon! or See ya later!
•TCOYF: Taking Charge Of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler; a book and website about charting and fertility.
•TMI: "too much information" - There is no such thing when TTC!
•TTA: "trying to avoid"
•TTC: "trying to conceive"
•TTFN: "ta-ta for now"
•TTYL, TTYS: "talk to you later" or "talk to you soon"

[Charting is Knowledge]

Resources borrowed from Still At It:

Abbreviations and acronyms
List of TTC & IF acronyms written out (http://womens-place.com/ttc/ttcacronyms.php)

HPT Sensitivity Comparison Charts
Fertility Plus (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hpt.html)
Pee On A Stick (http://www.peeonastick.com/hpts.html)
Mama's Ark (http://www.mamasark.com/hpt.htm)
Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com/pregnancy-test-sensitivity.html)
Remember, the hCG starts at 1 at implantation and increases as time goes on, so the smaller amount of hCG it measures, the more sensitive the test is!

Books
Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler, MPH (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060937645/qid=1041654042/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

The Fertility Sourcebook by M. Sara Rosenthal, PHD (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0737303808/qid=1042220393/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)

Inconceivable by Ben Elton (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385334656/qid=1041659461/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)
The movie "Maybe Baby" (below) is based on this book

Inconceivable: A Woman's Triumph Over Despair and Statistics
by Julia Indichova (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0767908201/qid=1059292613/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

The Infertility Diet: Get Pregnant & Prevent Miscarriage by Fern Reiss (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1893290395/qid=1059292976/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

Conquering Infertility: Dr. Domar's Mind/Body Guide to Enhancing
Fertility & Coping with Infertility by Alice Domar, Phd (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0670031550/qid=1059293116/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/103-2812959-1358247)


Girlfriend to Girlfriend: A Fertility Companion by Kristen Magnacca (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1588202135/qid=1082306449/sr=8-2/ref=pd_ka_2/104-9895052-8814318?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

Movies
Maybe Baby (2001) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000062XKW/qid=1041654127/sr=8-4/ref=sr_8_4/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=video&n=507846)

She's Having A Baby (1988) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6300988996/qid%3D1041654195/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-0287896-1655948)

Websites (by subject)

Charting
Ovusoft aka TCOYF (http://www.ovusoft.com/)
The site for Toni Weschler's book which includes message boards, chat and cycle galleries which are very helpful.

Fertility Friend (www.fertilityfriend.com)
A free charting site which includes a lot of information and cycle galleries.

Local Support
RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/chapters/resolvenearyou.jsp?name=chapters)
Nation-wide referrals to local support groups and therapists.

The American Infertility Association (http://www.americaninfertility.org)
Lots of information and support, including message boards and chat rooms.

Financial Concerns
ARC: Advanced Reproductive Care (http://www.arcfertility.com/)
information on financing infertility treatments

Family Fee Plan (http://www.amerifee.com/fertility-financing/index.asp)
information on financing infertility treatments

State Insurance Requirements (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/advocacy/insurance/index.jsp?name=advocacy&tag=insurance)
Links from the Resolve site about insurance & laws.

Inciid's Insurance pages (http://www.inciid.org/index.php)
Click through menu on right for more financial topics and the insurance forum.

General TTC
Trying To Conceive.com (http://www.tryingtoconceive.com/)
All things TTC! Lots of info as well as a place to buy herbal therapies for
conceiving.

Baby Med (http://www.babymed.com/)
Tons of information. Everything from Chinese gender charts to an FAQ section on pretty much any TTC question you could have.

Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com)
Baby makin' supplies!

OBGYN.net (http://www.obgyn.net/)
Lots of general info on women's health. They also have doctors on line who
answer questions.

Infertility Sites
INCIID (http://www.inciid.org/)
Pronounced "inside". (The International Council on Infertility Information Dissemination)
Excellent national resource.

Resolve (http://www.resolve.org)
Wonderful site with lots of infertility information and support.

I dream of baby (http://www.idreamofbaby.com/fertility.php)
Learn the basics of fertility issues here. This site also has a great message
board community!

Fertility Plus.org’s list of female hormone levels (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hormonelevels.html#female)
Starting your fertility work-up? Check out this site to see a list of the
commonly tested female hormone levels, the function of each hormone, and the normal levels of each hormone.

Shared Journey (http://www.sharedjourney.com)
Shared Journey is dedicated to providing quality information on topics such as
infertility, miscarriage, surrogacy, pregnancy after infertility, living
child-free, and adoption. Our information is supplied by well noted Reproductive
Endocrinologist's, Psychologists, Adoption professionals and links through
various sites.

FertileHeart (http://www.fertileheart.com)
A community of people exploring holistic approaches to fertility. A site by
author Julia Indichova (see books above)

Specific IF Issues
Soul Cysters (http://www.soulcysters.com)
PCOS site with lots of support and info

Dr. Beer (http://www.repro-med.net)
Reproductive Immunology information, including lists of tests, pricing, local referrals

Reproductive Immunology Support (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/immunologysupport/)
Yahoo group for RI patients, tons of info and articles

Info for Family and Friends
Empty Arms (http://www.vocalicious.com/empty_arms/empty_arms_mod.html)
This is a great video so they can understand what you're going through. (And get out your kleenex!)

[Charting is Knowledge]

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Post Away!

[ellidew]

Thanks threadmistress!

[missy329]

Oh my I am one of the first ones here!

I posted at the end of the old thread that I got my BFP yesterday :D So, please move me out of testing to a graduate!

Thanks!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Welcome to the new thread!! Will everyone please make sure you are in the correct category and all your information is correct? If you need any changes made, please post in red! :D Thanks!!

[Charting is Knowledge]

I have you graduated Missy! Congrats again!!

[klav]

wOO hOO NEW THREAD!! :p :p
waiting to test????

[dlj78]

Thanks for the new thread!!! :D

[Lvella43]

I haven't been by in FOREVER, but wanted to drop off some fresh

*~*~*~*~*~Baby Dust ~*~*~*~*~*~

Cheers,

Lisa

[amurphy]

Congratulations, Missy! :D :D :D

[Ericka_Jarett]

Hoping that we can all get off this list with this thread :)

Come on BFP's :):):)

[jnshanna]

Thanks for the new thread!! :)

Now to catch up on the previous thread's posts: ;)

Missy329 ~ Congratulations!!! Those are some beautiful lines!!

lowcountrywed ~ I'm sorry you aren't sleeping well. Is there something that you really enjoy that relaxes you? Maybe pampering yourself will help? I hope it gets better soon. Hang in there.

Ellidew ~ your temps are looking great!

amurphy ~ Wouldn't that be so cool if tonight is THE night?

Me ~ My temp went back up this morning 2/10. It's got that funny up and down temp thing going on. ;) Don't know what that means so I can only hope. I wish I had more charts to compare to. I had a really vivid, weird dream last night that I was getting an internal exam (at home of all places!!) and the woman dr. told me that it's a good thing I came to her because there was something wrong but she was smiling the whole time and said that it was easily treated and I could get pg. It kind of freaked me out though. :(

[Guinness]

Congrats Missy!! So excited for you. Just came to see the new thread and drop off some baby dust. Should be more potent since I have gotten several + HPTs now :p Hope to see more graduates soon.

Here's some dust for the new thread:
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~BABY DUST*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

[mkvh]

Guiness & Lvella: Thanks for the baby dust..rolling in it as we speak!

Lowcountry: Insomnia sucks! Hopefully you'll get some good sleep and see some nice, high temps!

shanna: Funny dream...wonder what it means... You know, vivid dreams are an RPS...

ellidew: i agree w/ shanna...purty chart!

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just subscribin'!

[ShelbyMay]

Congratulations, Missy!!!

As for me, my temp is still on the rise. This is a new pattern for me, but still -- cautiously hopeful. Maybe my body's just fighting off a virus or something...

[Lizard]

Just subscribin'. :D

[cat_loverpq]

Checking in! :)

Nothing exciting here, CD6 and just hoping for a normal cycle. :p

jnshanna ~ Wow, what a strange dream! That would probably freak me out too.

**scooping up some baby dust and stuffing it in my pocket for later ;)**

[Sabriel]

Yay a new thread!!!

Congrats to missy329!

ShelbyMay and ellidewYour charts look good!

Guinness and Lvella43 Grabbing up some of that baby dust! :D

jnshanna You chart is looking good too! What a strange dream. That would freak me out too!

amurphy Happy anniversary!

mkvh I hope that your DH's coworkers dream means that this is your month! Thats really cool.

lowcountrywed Sorry to hear that you are not sleeping well. I loved charting while we were TTA, but now I am finding it to be a little stressful.

Lizard I am hoping that you get the best anniversary present next month!

CD 23 for me and still no O. This is the latest CD that I have ever Oed, and that was my wedding month. I guess stress really does effect my O. Still hoping that it will happen today or tomorrow. FF is crazy and gave me crosshairs today that I Oed on CD 20. I wish, but there is no way.

[marteneym]

Congrats Missy! H&H 9months.

Shelby God does have his own perfect timing. Sometimes it is just now what we would like. I trying to remember that myself right now.

[gymwidow]

missy329, congrats!

jnshanna, weird dream! It's prob. just anxiety making itself known that way. No worries about it!

Nothing going on here. CD15 and after all those false O signs from last weekend, I'm now confident I didn't O. My temp yesterday was back down to 97.2 and today at 97.4 (typical for me pre-O). I'm still spotting, though, off an on, as I have been since Friday. Ugh, I hate that. I think I'm going to call my doctor just to ask if that's something I should be concerned about - if it's something that could cause a problem for us in TTC. DH and I are going to start BDing again every night to make sure we catch the eggie when O does happen. I figure O will prob. be this weekend.

[Baby Lust]

Just a quick update on myself! I am waiting for AF so I can start Clomid again. I am 99.9% sure I did not O this cycle, but I have been having a few strange symptoms so I am debating whether to test or not. CD39 and holding :rolleyes: Possible testing tomorrow...

Hope everyone has a wonderful day, with many BFPs in the near future! :D

[UTChick]

Congrats Missy!!

There are some good looking charts!



Temps are still high and FF is holding firm on my O date. I still disagree on the date and I am trying not to get my hopes up. But I am officially back in the game, so Threadmistress, will you change me to I think I O'd - testing 8/29 - 9/2? Thanks

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here!

UT, Welcome back! :D I disagree with FF also. I think you probably O'd on Saturday, though with those missing temps, it is hard to say. Good luck! :)

[polkadot]

damn! i wanted to get my BFP in that last thread....oh well thats ok...i am still keeping fingers crossed....

MISSY- congrats...H&H 9 months to ya....

amurphy....you posted in the last thread about FF giving me an early O ...yeah i was a little upset b/c i wasnt BD correctly as i wanted to b/c i thought i was getting ready to O not already had O ...but we got BD ing in the day before so we'll see what happens...and we kept BDing jsut incase...so here's to hoping

off to chart stalk...spread the baby dust ladies!!!

[gator97]

CD 1 for me. . . . sorry I have been MIA.

I have a lap. scheduled for Friday. . .starting to get nervous.

Congrats to all the BFPs!

[polkadot]

Damn chart stalking and **find a chart like your** why do we do these things to ourselves...i went to FF and found LOTS of charts like mine w/ our BD pattern and implant dip on day 6....it only gives me hope! it better work this month....i have to go fold laundry or something....i am going to go NUTS!! :rolleyes:

[Mystikal]

I'm sorry I haven't been around much, ladies. I've been trying to keep my mind off TTC, and it works well until I hit O time. :o Now once again I am obsessed with BD'ing and CM and all that other good stuff.
Congrats to all the BFP's while I was gone!
Good luck to those that are testing.
amurphy Happy Anniversary! I hope tonight is THE night.

You know, until DH and I started TTC nobody asked when we were going to have a baby, now that we have been trying since May with no luck it seems like someone asks me EVERY.SINGLE.DAY. Drives me batty. *sigh* Oh, well...

[Ilovemygeek]

Congratulaions missy329!

FF says that I O'd, but I do not think that is correct. The past two nights have been really restless nights and I believe that may have caused my higher temps. That combined with my EWCM the day after O gives me some doubts. I guess I just need to wait and see if my temps keep rising, but I hope that FF is correct because that would mean that my body is starting to go back to normal after BCP. Well, that and the fact that our BD timing would be ideal for this cycle. :D

[ds2003]

It been a while since I've posted. My chart doesn't have much to offer since i've decided not to temp this cycle. Now that I've been sick since Sunday with a fever, body aches and chills I think that my decision not to temp was a good one. I started OPKs today and am hoping for a positive this weekend. I took Femara this cycle and hope to O earlier.

Good Luck to everyone. I'm going to go chart stalk.

[polkadot]

ilovemygeek-
the same thing happened to me this month....i couldnt believe it when it gave me an O...but we kept BDing as long as i had fertile Cm ...so you can see by my chart i had fertile CM for a few days after ff's O but my temps are still high and i had alittle bit of a dip 2 days a go....so here's to hoping....good luck!

[jnshanna]

And the charting saga continues. :p Just when I think I've got the hang of it there is something new to learn....

Well, I finally bought a BBT today. I've been using a digital one but not Basal. I tested them and the one I've been using is 3/10 lower than the new one I just got. Greeeeaaat. At least I have a pattern to go by but my charts won't match up comparing the months. :( I won't start using my new one until my next cycle.

Then I was reading the paperwork that came with my BBT and it says to pinpoint ovulation you have to look at your last 6 temps and look for an increase in at least 2/10 above the highest temp over the past 6 temps. So I think that changed my O date?? Anybody want to take a look? Instead of it being on CD13, I'm thinking it was at the earliest on CD14 now. Because my highest previous temp was on CD 10 and it doesn't go up by 2/10 until CD14 but it could be as late as CD 16 since my temps continued to go up and there are supposed to be 3 high temps in a row after O, right? BUT, FF has my coverline showing CD 13 as my highest previous temp. It's supposed to create the coverline 1/10 above the 1 highest of the previous 6 temps. I'm so confused.

Oh, I've GOT to stop obsessing about this! I think as long as my O is between CD 12- 17 I should be okay as far as BDing. (Crossing my fingers!!) I know I said I shouldn't obsess but I think I'm going to re-read TCOYF because I don't think I paid enough attention to the temping part because I didn't plan to do that. That didn't last very long though. ;) Thanks for listening. I know I'm babbling.

[Indiana Bride]

jnshanna - The info that came with your thermometer probably follows traditional FAM rules. FF uses their own "method" to detect ovulation. That's why all of the charts default to the advanced method-I believe FF's method takes more into account the the traditional FAM rules (according to FF anyway). Either way-good luck :)

Missy329 - Sorry I'm late but CONGRATS :D


****BABY DUST**** to all!

[missy329]

Thank you all so much for the congrats! I am still so shocked that this was our month. We had been trying for 10 months and I had myself convinced for about 8 of those that I was pg- this month I was sure I wasn't!

Anyway, let me spread some baby dust to you all -*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

[klav]

tEMP WENT DOWN TODAY ABOUT ? SHOULD i WORRY , IT'S STILL HIGH AND EVEN WITH THE TUES DAY TEMP??? HUMMMM

[albuquerque]

Hi, I'm a February WC TTCwCharting grad, just stopping in to drop off some 29.5 week
*~*~*~*~*~*BABY GIRL DUST*~*~*~*~*~*

This is such a wonderful thread--I recognize some names (you guys get out of here already!) and I'm sure the newer ladies have kept the wonderful supportive spirit here. I haven't checked in for a long time--wishing you all very healthy, sticky BFPs as soon as possible, and the patience and strength of mind to cope with the wait until you each get yours!

[polkadot]

I KNEW i didnt O on the 14th like FF said....and this morning...FF moved my O to cycle day 20! so now i am only 3 dpo....wonderful....this is more like the 3 week wait...good thing we BDed on Sunday...i knew it this makes me so mad!!! :mad: :mad: :rolleyes:

Threadmistress can you pleae move me to think i o'ed testing Sept 5th!



uhhhggg i knew it!

[Wrighty26]

Happy Thursday!

Just stopping in to subscribe...

Congrats Missy!! Here's to a very happy and healthy 9 months :D

I'm on day 3 of Clomid. Is it odd that Clomid has actually ENHANCED my mood? I know most people talk about how it makes them moody-- but I've actually been in a better mood... Maybe it's just the relief of knowing that I'm finally moving in the right direction!

Hope we get some more BFPs :)

[Lizard]

tEMP WENT DOWN TODAY ABOUT ? SHOULD i WORRY , IT'S STILL HIGH AND EVEN WITH THE TUES DAY TEMP??? HUMMMM


Your temp's fine... I know it's hard, but try to look at the big picture with the temps and not each individual temp. It should go back up tomorrow.

[mkvh]

Sabriel: thanks...I hope so too!

missy, albuquerque, & indiana bride: thanks for the baby dust!

Ilovemygeek: it's possible to have EW after O, so hang in there and keep BDing till you see 3 high temps!

jnshanna: I think you will see an overall similar pattern w/ the 2 therms, just shifted by the .3, so comparison could still happen. And you'll probably feel much better if you DO re-read TCOYF! I personally think you O'd later than your CH, but I'm new at this too!

missy, albuquerque, & indiana bride: thanks for the baby dust!

klav: no worries yet...your temp is still above CL! Hang in there!

polkadot: UGH! Good thing you didn't *listen* to FF...fingers crossed for you...sorry about the extra long 2ww!!!!

Wrighty: Great to hear that you're feeling positive! Hope Clomid continues to treat you well...good luck!

To anyone I missed: Hope the BDing and waiting are going well!
_______________________________
As for me, CD 15...any guesses on my O? I was fully expecting my temp to go way up today after the slight rise yesterday...

Also, anyone had a YI during TTC? If so, what did the dr. say about treating it? I have a refill on a prescription but don't know if I can use it!

[klav]

Thanks Lizard I know it's SOOO hard!!
I for got to mention last night.... we had a charity softball game and at the afterhours type party... I ordered some chowda(new England) and I thought it was so Peppery... my DH could not taste it? wondering if that is an indication ? sence I have not had any symptoms at all???
Wrighty26 hee hee Ihave had the same thing... my DH say's I'min such a good mood that maybe I should stay on Clomid!!! :D

[lowcountrywed]

Congrats Missy!!!

Nothing much to report here. I'm either 3 or 4 dpo based on my OPKs (since I haven't been able to temp b/c of insomnia). Luckily I have my anniversary and a Labor day trip to my parents to keep me occupied.

Threadmistress, can you move me to I think I O'ed testing 8/29-9/4? Thanks!

Anyone have any excitiing plans for Labor Day?

[Sabriel]

klav I agree with Lizard. You temp is still way above the coverline, so no need to worry!

mkvh I'd say you haven't Oed yet. Sorry to hear about the YI. I'm not sure about treating it during TTC. I'd probably call the doc.

Wrighty26 and klav Glad to hear that you are feeling good on the Clomid. It can't do anything but help!

polkadot It's hard to say with the open circle on CD 19, but I'd still say that you Oed on CD14. There is a temp shift there along with EWCM. If the open temp on CD 19 is accurate, then I really don't think you Oed on CD 20. There is no temp shift there. One thing that I learned in the TTA thread is you cannot rely on FF. It loves to call O anytime there is a temp dip. :rollseyes"

albuquerque, Indiana Bride and missy329 Grabbing up some baby dust!!!

jnshanna I agree that your O was probably a few days later than FF says, especially with all of that EWCM. Though, it is hard to tell with all of the open circles right around O. Also, I am not sure how accurate a normal termometer is. I don't know how that affects things. Based on your chart as is, I'd say you probably Oed on CD 15.

CD 24 for me and no O in sight. We will BD tonight just in case, but I am leaving first thing tomorrow for Kansas City until Tuesday. Hope this cycle isn't a bust!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here!

[Ryan]

Hi girls just checkin in ..

I am at 8 DPO waiting so lets see!!

Good luck to all of you!!

[klav]

Threadmistress Please move me to think I O'd testing on Sept 4

[ellidew]

Ryan- 8 dpo for me too! Only a few more days until we can test!

Sabriel- hopefully it isn't a bust... trips away from dh suck!

lowcountrywed- Happy Anniversary!

LABOR DAY: Dh and I are going to take a trip over labor day weekend. We are going to go to bowling green, ky and see the corvette museum/plant then go to lynchburg, tn to see the jack daniels distillery then we are going to memphis for 2 days! It is going to be so much fun and i can't wait. We have been counting down for weeks. I will know whether or not we are pg by then too. We leave on what would be 16DPO. I don't think my lp is that long! Have a lot of fun on your trip!

mkvh- I am terrible at reading charts! I can barely figure out what mine means. If i didn't have such a temp difference between phases i would be lost! I am not help with YI either, sorry. I feel so useless! :rolleyes:

Wrighty26- Yay for the good mood. I hope the clomid works for ya!

polkadot- UGG! That's annoying. It IS a good thing you covered your bases. 3 week wait sucks! More baby dust to hold you over! I did the compare charts to yours yesterday on ff and there was a mix of a couple bfp's and a couple not. So as i see it i still have a 50/50 shot at a bfp. It's called fuzzy logic! :D

albuquerque- Thanks for the baby dust! We need as much as we can get!

klav- My temp went down .4 today. Hopefully tomorrow or the next day it goes back up and stays there! Here's wishin'! I still don't think this is going to be our cycle but we will see. A girl can hope. :)

missy329- thanks for the baby dust. Have a wonderful pregnancy!

Indiana Bride- Thanks for the baby dust!

jnshanna- Yikes! Your post had me feeling like i was back in high school algebra. ha ha. I had to read it twice though. Unfortunately, i don't have anything to add and i think someone already cleared it up anyway. You are right that you will have the pattern but wont be able to compare charts as you go forward. That stinks! I am yet to get a clear answer on what the difference is between thermometers. HEY! Better yet just get a BFP and don't test anymore! That would be great!
I almost pulled out my copy of tcoyf to reread about the lp... when does implantation usually occur?

ds2003- I hope you start feeling better!

Ilovemygeek- I employed my own method this month which was bd until i was absolutely positive that i had o'd. I was at 3 dpo before we stopped bd'ing. Hopefully it worked! Lots of baby dust for you!

Mystikal- I hate when people say that. This morning the receptionist at my office was telling me about her granddaughter and then said "you will see when you have yours." I was like... "heh?" I don't obsess until its time to o then i obsess until af arrives. What makes it worse is this is our first month of TRYING. We were not not trying for the last couple of months. I mark August as our first official month of ttc but really we have been guesstimating for a few months now. Hang in there.

gator97- Sorry af found you. Hang in there... this could be your month. Sending lots of baby vibes your way.


SO many people posted on here last night. I swear i have been sending shout outs for 15 mins. ha ha. I only check the board from work. I just can't convince to use the comp at home since i spend all day on a comp at work. Sorry if i missed anyone in shout outs. Happy bd'ing to you!

8DPO for me and a .4 temp drop. I am not going to lose hope yet. My temp could still go up in the next couple of days and i shouldn't technically test until Monday. I bought 5 dollar store tests yesterday so i am prepared to test starting the beginning of next week. My only documented lp phase was 13 days long so if that holds true af would be here by next tuesday :mad: Hopefully i get a BFP though. For some reason i just don't think i will. I just don't feel that vibe. I guess i just expect to feel pregnant if i am. I don't know. If not this month then maybe next month. I'll still be sad though :(

[cat_loverpq]

Sabriel ~ Hey, you're coming to KC? Cool! :) Is it work-related?

[Sabriel]

cat_loverpq Yep! I'm a vet tech and the Central Veterinary Conference is there this weekend. It should be a good trip, but I am a little bitter about it affecting our TTC efforts! Of course, this is just our first month, so I was not really expecting it happen this month anyway. :rolleyes:

That reminds me of a QOTD I have for you girls. Is your job TTC/pregnancy friendly?

As I said, I am a vet tech and work around x-rays and inhaled anesthetics everyday. The x-rays are obviously not good, but the anesthesia makes me even more nervous as it can cause miscarriages. :eek: I don't want to tell anyone at work that we are TTC, but I almost feel like I have to. So far, I have convinced the office manager to let me work as a receptionist as much as possible, but I am still being scheduled to work as a tech more often than I would like. It hasn't been a problem yet (since I haven't Oed yet), but I know that I will be panicky working around this stuff in the 2WW. I am probably going to have to break down and tell my office manager the real reason. :(

[ellidew]

Yikes Sabriel that stinks! Be careful. Have fun at your conference too!

QOTD: My job is ttc/pregnancy friendly environment. I have a sales position and work in my own office all day. It is quite cushy.

[jnshanna]

Today is a bit of a rough day so I think I'm going to take a break. My temp went down today by a lot so I'm not feeling very positive. I'll check in again tomorrow.

Good luck to anyone testing! There are a lot of really good charts! :)

[ellidew]

jnshanna- You aren't out yet! Hang in there!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here!

[ShelbyMay]

Hey, I'm 8dpo, too! :) Is there a club I can join?

I can't really say I "feel pregnant", but I do feel different. The cramping at 5dpo and the high temps and the weird CM (also at 5dpo) have me wondering. Then again, I've had (different) FPS before. I'm trying to simultaneously prepare myself for either outcome. :rolleyes:

[Ericka_Jarett]

Nice climb you have there ShelbyMay

[klav]

hey there shelbymay looks like you found the right thread!! and Ericka_Jarett is right nice chart!

[marteneym]

Just stopping in to roll and roll and roll in the baby dust. :D Hoping its potent stuff. Keep it coming girls.

Shelby I have to agree, that is one fab looking chart.

[ShelbyMay]

Aw, shucks - You're all gonna make me blush! :o I really really really hope this is it (as I'm sure everyone else is hoping about their own charts, too)! I keeping thinking "Maybe..." but then I try to talk myself down -- You know, I felt dizzy last night, but maybe I was just really tired. And my rings were tight this morning, but maybe it's the heat and humidity. And my stomach feels a little bloated, but maybe I've been eating too many salty foods. And I feel a little more tired than usual, but maybe it's because I've cut back on caffeine. And I feel distracted, but that's probably because I have a lot of things on my mind and a ton of stuff to get done this week.

See what I mean? :rolleyes:

I did go by Dollar Tree and buy a couple of tests today...

[jnshanna]

Okay, so I couldn't stay away. :p

I think I'm over my slump. Now to catch up! :eek:

Indiana Bride ~ Thanks for letting me know the difference between FF and the FAM rules. That helps.

klav ~ Your temp still looks fine to me. It's way above your coverline so you're good.


albuguerque ~ Thanks for the babydust. I got some! :D

Polkadot ~ Bummer about the moved O. Hang in there! I hope this "extended" 2WW goes fast!!

Michelle ~ That's great that your in such a great mood. I'm not sure if it's Clomid either or just the positive thoughts because you have a plan. A plan always puts me in a good mood.

mkvh ~ I think we need a couple more days of temps to get a good O date and I'm not very good at estimating so I'm no help. LOL You doing great with BDing so it looks great to me!

lowcountrywed ~ Oh good, you'll be plenty occupied. I can't wait to go on vacation to get my mind off this 2WW.

Sabriel ~ Thanks for taking a look at my chart. I agree that CD15 seems to be a better bet. That's pretty good, if we're right because I get a high BD rating then. :D I decided to change my chart to have O on CD15 just because I think that's probably more reasonable. So I have more of a wait but that's probably good because maybe I'm not having any symptoms because implantation hasn't happened yet? I'm trying not to hope though. Hope you have a nice trip! And that O holds out until you return.

Ellidew ~ LOL about the Algebra. I was in one of those moods last night throwing out stats like crazy! Implantation occurs anywhere from 7-10 DPO from what I've read at FF. But I've seen other women here say that implantation happened for them as early as 5DPO but I'm not sure if that could be because of a wrong O date possibly or if that really does happen. Since I changed my chart, it could be that implantation hasn't happened for me yet. I'll hold on to that hope for now.... but not too tight. I think your temps still look good. Could be an implantation dip for you, ya never know!

QOTD: My job is definitely ttc/pregnancy friendly. I work at a plant and tree nursery, remotely at one of my company's sites but work for our Corporate office. Since I already work remotely and all of my work is done via Email for the most part I have the flexibility to work from home. And my tenative plan is to work from home after the baby is born although I'd rather not go back to work at all! So I figure if I have bad days during pregnancy, I can just stay home and work from there. The pay isn't the greatest here but the flexibility is invaluable I think.

And finally (I've feel like I wrote a book!) my update. I already said above that I changed my chart and that pushed back my O date so I've decided that I won't be testing before we go on vacation this weekend. I'll just wait until I return. I have thought about bringing a test with me though just in case. LOL I probably shouldn't do that, huh? I know I'll use it if I bring it. Nah, I won't take one. The next couple of days before we leave will be hard though! I haven't opened my boxes of tests yet so that's all that's keeping me from not testing right now. I still don't really have any symptoms except this cramp just below my ribs. Could be heart burn or something? And the right side of my lower back is cramping. That could be anything though so I'm not obsessing. Really, I'm not! ;)

Okay, I'm finally done. I don't think I should take a break again, even if it's just for a few hours. Catching up is murder!

[jnshanna]

Oops, I forgot ShelbyMay! Your chart looks great! :D

[ShelbyMay]

Forgot to answer the QOTD: My job is very TTC/pregnancy-friendly. I sit at my desk most of the day, I can snack whenever I want on whatever I want to bring, there aren't any harsh chemicals around, and the bathroom is not terribly far from my office. :) The only trouble is that I don't get sick days or any kind of paid maternity leave, but I can take some time off without pay and it shouldn't be a problem. I do plan to come back to work after our (someday) baby is born, but possibly just part-time.

[Wrighty26]

Forgot to answer the QOTD: My job is very TTC/pregnancy-friendly. I sit at my desk most of the day, I can snack whenever I want on whatever I want to bring, there aren't any harsh chemicals around, and the bathroom is not terribly far from my office. :) The only trouble is that I don't get sick days or any kind of paid maternity leave, but I can take some time off without pay and it shouldn't be a problem. I do plan to come back to work after our (someday) baby is born, but possibly just part-time.

I could have written this same post! My office also allows telecommuting-- so I'm almost positive I could work it out that am I able to work from home a couple of days a week-- at least initially (which would be awesome- since Dan has opposite days off of work than me- meaning we wouldn't necessarily have to do daycare right off the bat). I DEFINITELY plan on coming back to work though...

Good luck to you Shelby-- your temps are looking AWESOME!

jnshanna- Good luck to you too! I love how you rationalize every FPS :)

To everyone else-- thanks for the well wishes-- and best wishes to all of you this month/next!!

[klav]

you know I've been look at my chart's and my temps have been up like this before.... and I have no symptoms... I know you all say my chart looks good but I'm beginning to wonder I was hopeing this would be the time... :confused:

[Guinness]

Klav you are only on DPO 7, implantation typically happens DPO7-10, you won't have any symptoms really until after that. I didn't feel anything at all. I had spotting on DPO 7 and thought implantation, that is the only thing I noticed until DPO10 or 11. Hang in there, you are not out of it yet. Here is some baby dust for you and all the others in 2WW.

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~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~More Baby Dust :) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

[polkadot]

Sabriel-
It's hard to say with the open circle on CD 19, but I'd still say that you Oed on CD14. There is a temp shift there along with EWCM. If the open temp on CD 19 is accurate, then I really don't think you Oed on CD 20. There is no temp shift there. One thing that I learned in the TTA thread is you cannot rely on FF. It loves to call O anytime there is a temp dip. :rollseyes"

sabriel got me to thinking so lets take a poll....when do you think I O'ed

i am thinking day 14 b/c of the drastic temp change and such...but this morning FF changed my O to cycle day 20....i was thinking that slow rise of the last three days was a good sign...now...not so much...anyone know what the hell is going on in there? :confused:

[klav]

tryng to keep my chin up.. I feel totlly obsessed with this and I just dont' want to be let down any more

[ds2003]

QOTD: My job is TTC/pregnancy friendly. I sit at my desk on the computer all day. I wish I had more privacy so I could chat on here during the day, but work is very busy and have no privacy. I am a hop, skip and a jump from the bathroom. I will have 6 or 8 weeks sick time off once the baby is born depending on if the baby is delivered vaginally or cesarean. I plan to take some vacation time on there and some FMLA. I would like to be our at least 10 weeks. I will have the option of working part time if I would like, but I doubt I will. We are not that financially stable for me to do that. When I get back to work I plan on pumping since I want to breastfeed for at least 6 months. A whole year would be the best. I have already picked our the bathroom that I will use since it has a private lounge. All the other women's bathrooms have lounges, but the main door opens into them and I wouldn't want a passerby to see my tits hanging out.

[dlj78]

Polkadot I agree with you for CD14. That dip could be a good sign ;) I'm no expert but I don't think your chart looks bad. Keep your chin up!

klav ~ I know it can be hard during the wait. It's still a little early though ;)

QOTD ~ I guess my employer is TTC/Pregnancy friendly. My direct boss gets weird about it because he thinks that I am totally going to change afterwards. I know that I will change but I he knows that I have to work after the baby is born. We'll see how it goes when the time comes though.

Good luck to any testers coming up!
Here's hoping that anyone waiting to O, O's soon :p

~~~~~

Still no change here except for CD, lol. I'm on CD 19 and just waiting for that eggie. I haven't gotten any EW yet and my monitor still reads high. I have taken 2 opks the past 2 afternoons and they were both negative. So I am in the waiting game, hope it's coming this weekend!

[jodylovesscotty]

Checking In :)

I am currently 10dpo. Today I had a large temp drop. However I am not sure whether it is because I got up earlier than normal (45 minutes). School started today so I will be getting up earlier than I did over the summer. The only symptoms I've had are sore nipples and an excessive amounts of CM. I am not obessessing this month (can't with so much to do at work). So only time will tell (should get AF by Sunday). It would be so awesome to get a BFP since our anniversary is on Tuesday, but I won't hold my breath.

[UTChick]

I am just going to have to accept the fact that I will have to do mass SO's during the week since I miss so much during the day. I'm a teacher and rarely sit down, much less get on the computer. So...a happy BDing, a big "hurry up" to the eggs who haven't shown up yet this cycle, and and a good luck with upcoming testing. That should cover everyone! ;)


As for the QOTD~It depends. I teach 4th grade and am on my feet all day long which will be hard with swollen feet and my classroom couldn't be farther down the hall from our faculty bathroom. There is no such thing as paid maternity leave and I have to put on a happy face even if I feel like puking or crawling into bed. But...I have a wonderful team who looks out for each other (ie. watching your class while you run down that hall to the bathroom), a couple of months off during the summer, and mostly supportive bosses. Plus everyone gushes over the pg women, especially the teachers who are my mom's age. It has its pros and cons, but what job doesn't?

[ShelbyMay]

polkadot, I agree about CD14. That seems like a more likely O date to me, since you had that temp shift.

[missy329]

QOTD-
Unfortunatley I do not work in a PG friendly environment. I am an electronics technician for the FAA and I work on Radar equipment with a lot of radiation risk. It has been tested and deemed "safe" but they usually don't want the pg women working around it anyway. The other bad part is that I do a lot of physical work and a lot of work outside. With my last baby I asked the OB about climbing and he thought I meant climbing stairs. I had to explain that I meant climbing antennas with a climbing harness on- he decided that I probably should not be doing that. But the good part is the great pay and benefits!

[lowcountrywed]

QOTD- My job is somewhat pregnancy/child friendly. My boss knows we are trying (or at least knows I plan on getting pregnant sometime in the near future) because I had to ask her to add maternity coverage to our insurance (small company, so the law doesn't require it). However I don't get any paid maternity leave and don't plan on coming back after I have a baby. I work in PR/marketing, so there is a chance for some freelance type work with my company (hopefully, not guaranteed). I will be traveling a lot in Nov. & Dec. but the rest of the year, I travel rarely.

klav - I know it's hard but hang in there. I haven't looked at your chart, but as long as your temps stay over the coverline, you are fine. In TCYOF there a sample pg chart with post-O temps that are up and down. A lot of people don't get symptoms until they are 5 weeks and some never really do at the early stage.

[Lizard]

My workplace is very pg-friendly and kid friendly. Our insurance is great, my boss is awesome and would work with me for days off or flexible schedules. I can't really work from home though. Also, they offer summertime sabaticals... you can take 1, 2, or 3 months off without pay. My job technically doesn't qualify for that, since me and my boss are the only people that do our jobs, but I think they'd work with me if I was interested.

One thing that makes me sad though, is that my insurance is AWESOME, but covers little to nothing for infertility. They don't cover drug treatments, IVF or IUI's. But they do fully cover vasectomies, tubal ligation, etc. :rolleyes: I've heard this is the "norm" but it really upsets me.

CD6 and I think I'm gonna start green tea tonight. I'm also seriously increasing my water intake. Looking back, I realized that the cycle that I had the possible chem pg in, was the one I had the most CM and was also when I drank the most water (we were travelling a lot and I always had a water bottle on me). I figure it can't hurt anyways. :)

Has there been any word from hbeshore? Her chart hasn't been updated since the 17th.

[mel7dog]

Just dropping off some


~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*Baby Dust~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*

[ShelbyMay]

9dpo, slight temp drop (but still well above coverline), and a BFN this morning. I knew it was probably too soon, anyway, so it could still go either way.

[jnshanna]

Well, today is a better day. My temp went way back up from 97.5 to 98.2. So I feel a little better. I was so tired yesterday that I went to be at 7! I woke up twice at night sweating too. Not that I'm counting on that meaning I'm possibly pg but you know how it goes. :rolleyes: I think I was just drained yesterday from stress.

Happy Friday to everyone!

[ellidew]

jnshanna & ShelbyMay- Both of your charts still look really good!

I got a little discouraged this morning when my temp held at yesterdays temp dip. If it doesn't go back up tomorrow morning i am counting myself out. I already vented in my journal (to save space here ;)) and came up with an action plan for next month. Still holding out hope but ready to be let down. :(

[jjsanner]

Hi gals!

I'm 7DPO today and trying hard not to obsess. I am feeling crampy, not quite the same as AF but centered more in the lower front of my abdomen. I vaguely remember having similar cramping last month with a BFN, so I'm not reading too much into it.

I can't even rememebr if I had any symptoms with my son because I didn't find out I was preggo until 21 DPO :eek: ! My cycle at that point was wacky and we had just returned from our honeymoon!

Anyway, I'm debating on whether to simply wait for AF to show (I usually start spotting by 10 DPO) or to test on Sunday or Monday. What do ya'll think?

Quick question....If my LP is on the shorter side (less than 12 days usually), does that mean I have a better chance of getting a positive result sooner?

ShelbyMay, defintaely don't give up yet! Your chart looks great!

You too, jnshanna!

[gymwidow]

Just a quickie post - work has been so busy this week and I'm way behind in reading along.

CD17 for me and Day 8 of spotting. Spotting this much really sucks. I finally called my doctor yesterday and spoke with a nurse about it - I told her that I just want to make sure it isn't a sign of something being off and that it won't interfere with TTC. The doc is supposed to call me today.

My temps are staying normal, b/w 97.4 and 97.8. I ran out of OPKs, but will pick some up tomorrow and start using them again. I figure O will probably be sometime in the next few days. At least I hope so! DH is on notice that we will be BDing nightly starting tonight!

I'll catch up over the weekend. I hope everyone has a great one!

[mkvh]

Wow...lots of action in here today! TRYING to do SOs...

ellidew: don't count yourself out yet...you are WAY above your CL still!

jjsanner: looking good too... I don't think a shorter 'normal' LP has anything to do with a +. When you get a + depends on when the little guy implants, and that has little to do with your LP. Although you'll be *late* sooner...so FF will say you can/should test sooner. And really, if your LP is short, I guess the little guy would HAVE to implant sooner to keep AF away. So circular logic taken into account... :rolleyes:

jnshanna: wow! Lovin' the I-dip!! That' s a nice, high temp today.

jody: likin' the chart! Glad to see that your temp is back up today. Hope the start of school is going well.

shelby: Beautiful rise you've got going on! And shame on you for testing at 9DPO (ha ha...pot, kettle...I did it last month.)

klav: hang in there!

polkadot: I'm not an expert by any means, but by FAM rules, you didn't have a dry up to coincide with the CD 14 O...but who knows, really.

dlj: C'mon eggie!

UTChick: I am a corporate trainer, and I feel your pain about having to put on a happy face in front of the classroom. Praying that MS doesn't hit any of us hard!

lizard: I was wondering about hbshore myself. Hmmm...

gymwidow: hope you get some answers!
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ME: Don't be fooled by the huge temp rise today. DH and I had several beers last night, and he turned off the AC in our bedroom. Could it be O, sure. But who knows. And with this YI, I can't tell by CM. Argh! Maybe I can truly confirm O on Tuesday with all we've got going on this weekend! Next month we're using OPKs FOR SURE.

[jnshanna]

Praying hard that my temp stays up tomorrow! ;)

Ellidew ~ Hang in there, you are still well above the CL so you're certainly not out yet. :)

Shelbymay ~ I still think you're looking great! You're bound to have a temp dip at some point after O. I bet it will go back up. :)

Thanks for the babydust, Mel! :D

jjsanner ~ I guess it depends on how you feel about BFN's. If you take a test this weekend, it might show up as BFN and you could still be pg. I'd probably wait until Tuesday at least to test. But that's just my personal decision because last month was hard with all the BFN's that I got. Now, I'm not saying it's easy! ;) I want to test sooo bad but I'm trying not to until the end of next week and I'm approx. 10DPO (not positive about O). Whatever you decide, good luck!

gymwidow ~ Let us know what the dr says. I hope this spotting stops and O finally shows for you.

[ellidew]

I am so bored at work i just don' t know what to do with myself. Luckily i only work until 12:30 on Fridays so i only have to suffer through another 15 minutes! yay!

Thanks for the encouragement ladies. I know i am not out yet i am just bracing myself. I guess i just always thought i would feel pregnant, ya know? I hope everyone has a good weekend and there are some BFP's to report next week. I am NOT going to get through the weekend without testing, i will be lucky to get through the day!

[cat_loverpq]

Mel7dog ~ Thanks for the dust!

Shelbey ~ Your chart still looks good. I bet it was just too early to test. :)

polkadot ~ Your temps certainly show CD14, but without a dryup, it's hard to say...

gymwidow ~ I hope the spotting isn't a sign of something wrong. Let us know what the dr says, and I hope the spotting stops soon!

jjsanner ~ I have no idea on the + result showing up sooner. I'll leave that to the experts to answer. :)

jodylovesscotty ~ Keeping my fingers crossed for you!

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QOTD ~ Is your job TTC/pregnancy friendly?
Fortunately my job is very TTC/pregnancy friendly - I sit at my computer all day running numbers. :) The bad thing is one of my co-workers is wanting to start TTC soon, so I need to get pg now so we can time our maternity leaves and not be gone at the same time! :D We get 6 weeks of leave at full pay and 2 weeks at half pay. I will probably work from home (part-time) during those 2 weeks to make up for the pay difference. I will also use up my vacation time on top of that (2 weeks), and probably save my personal time (1 week) for emergencies. Luckily we also have flex-time, so if I need to leave early for an appointment I can work through lunch or come in early the next day to make up for that time. :)

My office is definitely used to pregnancies - 4 women have had babies in the last 5 months, and another one is due in March! :eek:

[gymwidow]

The doctor called me back. She said that after I went off the pill, the breakthrough bleeding should have stopped. She suggested I have an endometrial biopsy. After I talked to her, I called a family friend who's a GYN and spoke to him. He suggested I start with an ultrasound to check the lining of my uterus - said that might give us answers and, if not, then I can proceed to the biopsy. So, for now I have an appt. next Thursday for the u/s, and an appointment on Sept. 20 if necessary for the biopsy.

My friend said that it's probably nothing to worry about and that he doubts it's anything that would prevent me from having a baby, but that we should still check it out. So, here's hoping it's just a minor inconvenience rather than a sign that something's wrong!

[mkvh]

{{{Hugs}}} to you gymwidow. Keep us posted.

[klav]

{{{Hugs}}} gymwidow
I'm sorry you have togo thru that. I'm sure it's nothing!! keep us updated.
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on another obsessing........... note when is a good day to test? or should I wait for AF?? on the 2nd?

[jnshanna]

I'm sorry gymwidow. That's great that you have a friend that is a GYN though. :) Sounds like he gave you some good advice. {{ Hugs }}

[ShelbyMay]

klav, do you have any idea how long your luteal phase usually lasts? If you are 8dpo now, then you're probably supposed to wait another 6 or 7 days. That being said, I am a big hypocrite and took a (BFN) test today at 9dpo. I think I'm going to try to hold off until Monday before testing again, since that's when FF said I should test based on my expected AF.

ETA: Thought about it and realized that I am a liar, too -- I will probably take a cheapie test on Sunday morning. If at all possible, it would be great to get a BFP on a day when DH and I can actually spend some time alone together to absorb the news.

[klav]

ShelbyMay Lt usually last till day 28. If I understand LT correctly :eek:
waiting another week would put me on day 28 when AF should possible show! :rolleyes:

[mkvh]

I just read somewhere that a BFN on 14 DPO is 95% reliable. I think FF has stats that show the majority of women who will get a BFP will get it by 14 DPO...there are a few who are later. And if you have clear implantation signs (cramping, spotting, temp dip), you SHOULD test positive 48 hours after that with a really sensitive test.

I've read all of this on one thread or another... obsessed much? :rolleyes:

[gymwidow]

Thanks ladies! I'm so glad I can share this stuff with you guys! Only a few people IRL know that we're TTC and only one person knows about this new development, so I'm glad I have you guys to come and talk about it with.

In my heart I don't think the spotting is a "problem" - more of an annoyance, but at the same time I just want to find out why it's happening and make sure that there aren't any real problems we need to address. Real knowledge is better than lots of guesses, you know? I'm already all impatient and wishing it were Thursday tomorrow!

[klav]

where did you guy's say those cheep PGT are the doller store? :confused:

[ShelbyMay]

They have them at Dollar Tree on the aisle with the shampoo and stuff.

[klav]

I'm going to stop by and see if I can pick some up! thank you! :p

[flygirl]

Good lord, what this thread will do in 3 days!

I'm picking up DH in 2 hours. Y'all might remember that he's been gone most of the summer. I'm ecstatic that he's coming home, but a little bummed because most likely, when he leaves again, he'll be flying trips, so it's not like I can go visit him :(.

But anyway, I skimmed through to catch up & a few things caught my attention.

jnshanna, you're going to hate me for this, but I think there's a good chance that you O'd CD17 or 18. FF is a great tool for keeping track of your stats, but it is notorious for calling O incorrectly. This cycle, since you're not using a BBT, is very hard to determine based on your temps. Your CM, however, shows a text book dry-up & is a much more reliable indicator. If this is the case, then the good news is that your BD schedule still looks great! So don't stress yourself out if don't get an early BFP. :)

Has there been any word from hbeshore? Her chart hasn't been updated since the 17th.
hbeshore does not exist anymore, though the original user with her original username does. I'm not quite sure why she hasn't let us know; perhaps she didn't realize how closely we watch each other :). If I get the time I'll PM her & ask her to give us an update.

gymwidow, I really, really hope this is nothing, or if it is, something easy to treat that will help with TTC.

jjsanner, a short LP doesn't help the little eggie implant earlier; in fact, a short LP is often an indication that the egg will have a problem implanting. The vast majority of eggs implant between CD7-10 (though it can be as early as CD4 & as late as CD12), and if you have a fertilized egg that wants to implant on CD9 or 10, it won't be able to because your body will already be shedding the lining. If you notice a pattern of short LPs you should call the doc.

Hope everyone has a great weekend![/color]

[UTChick]

What? Surely you weren't insinuating that I am an A-type personality. Because I have never said that I was "seeing what happens" and then four days later start temping again. And I certainly don't argue with FF incessantly about when my O date really was because I am always right and will go to great lengths to prove it. You must have me confused with someone else. ;)

ETA: I'm still at work so I will do SO's when I get home.

[klav]

OK I knew you said Doller Tree and I went there and Nothing... not a one.... do all of them usually have them? what does the box look like? could not find them at all and yes I wen down the shampoo isle with all the fem. stuff :(

[marteneym]

I had a little temp jump today. Not much, but when I enter in high temps the next few days( I know you all have done it to) it gives me an O on cd44. Of course dh wasnt feeling well that night but we did bd the day before. Hopefully the swimmers held out. The other possibility is that I temped 20min late today and was incredibly hot. I may not have O'ed at all. I will be back to update Monday. Hope you all have a great weekend.

[jnshanna]

Aw Flygirl, that's too bad that your DH won't be in town long enough. Thanks for taking a look at my chart. And I don't hate you for saying I probably didn't O until CD17 or 18. ;) Honestly, I just really want to know what's going on! I think next month my chart will look much better since I'll be using a BBT then. Of course I'll be disappointed starting a new month (if that happens) but it'll be a challenge to get my chart looking good.

[gator97]

Oh my goodness, I can't possibly keep up with the SO's. This thread is smokin'!

I did want to sympathize with gymwidow. I started having mucho trouble with my ashtma and doctors recommended that we put TTC on hold until that was resolved. Longest few months of my life.

Threadmistress: Please update my stats to include,
Known issues/test results: Dx Stage 2-3 endometriosis, all removed 8/05; adenomyosis-unable to remove

My dr. doesn't think the adenomyosis will harm our fertility but he's going to consult with another colleague. He's going to give us 6 months to see and then suggest other things. Bummer of it is though, that with the adenomyosis still I may not see a decrease in pain. But hopefully, the asthma problems with be resolved with the removal of the endometriosis. Fingers crossed.

Had the laparoscopy yesterday afternoon and I'm actually feeling much better than I expected. Quite sore and moving slow.

Sorry for not many SO's. It is always so busy in here .. . but so nice to see how supportive this group is . . it's pretty cool.

[klav]

Gator97 I hope your feeling better. I had oe done a ew years ago and Had a rought next day but you should be good on day two.

[amurphy]

Yikes! This thread moves fast! Just wanted to swing by and let you all know that I'm reading along and cheering for you! Gymwidow & Gator, I'm keeping you both in my thoughts and hoping everything works out for you.

I see Flygirl is again offering her sage advice on charts. Listen to her! She is most likely right. ;)

klav, I couldn't find the tests at the dollar tree either. I've checked three times! Maybe not all stores carry them?

I'm on CD15 and CM indicates that my body is gearing up for O. I'm hoping it happens before my forecasted O date next Saturday since my entire family will be in town for a visit. BDing on the floor to avoid the creaky bed is a little uncomfortable. :p

[katmg]

Yikes! I've been gone for the past 4 days and look what happens! We have a brand new thread...

I'm sitting at CD 7 - just waitin' to O. Yaawn.

[jodylovesscotty]

AF found me. So much for the high rating :mad:

Can you please move me to waiting to O.

[jnshanna]

Sorry the witch found you jodylovesscotty. :(

gator ~ I hop you feel better soon. And also that the dr. confirms that this won't effect your fertility. {{Hugs}}

Well, my temp went up a lot again today so I can't help but be hopefully. I have this underlined feeling that I'm setting myself up for failure but I have to hope, right? No change in bb's but I've had a lot of mild cramping yesterday and today and I woke up 4 times last night to go to the restroom. And I was really tired again last night and went to bed at 8. Just keeping my fingers crossed and trying to keep my hands OFF the tests! :P I just have to get through today and tomorrow and then we'll be all packed and ready to leave for Vegas. :D And I'll test when I get back.

[Mystikal]

Threadmistress, can you pleave move me to "I think I O'ed, Testing Week of 9/5-9/11?
We timed BD pretty good this month, considering I O'ed earlier than usual, but I'm not getting my hopes up. (I say that now, check back with me in another week and a half. ;))

jody sorry about AF. Stupid witch!! :(

[gymwidow]

gator97, thanks so much. Hugs to you. I'm sure this is so hard, especially the waiting, but I hope that everything you're doing brings you one step closer to having that baby!

mkvh, klav, jnshanna, flygirl, amurphy, thank you for the good wishes!

jodylovesscotty, I'm sorry. I hope this is her last visit to you for a while!

It looks like there are some promising charts out there. How awesome would it be if we could close out this thread in the first week of September?

I'm on CD18 and still spotting, but DH and I are BDing every night anyway in the hopes that it doesn't mean anything and we can still get me pregnant. I think I'll hopefully O in the next couple of days. Bring on the 2WW!

[UTChick]

jodylovesscotty~Sorry about AF.

gator97~Hope you feel better soon and get some good news from the doctor.

[ShelbyMay]

I wish I could go back 2 days to when my chart was looking so promising. :rolleyes: I won't totally count myself out for this cycle yet b/c I barely slept last night (maybe from 1am - 6am) and have been under a ton of stress (Today I had a yard sale in the morning and threw a bridal shower in the afternoon. I was up so late last night making food for the shower and had to get up bright and early for the sale.) Now I really just want to go to bed (at 6pm!), but my inlaws are over at our house and will be staying for dinner. I drew the line at cooking, though -- We're getting pizza!

ETA: I forgot to mention that I tested this morning with a FRER -- another BFN. I never claimed to be a patient person.

[ShelbyMay]

WOW -- absolutely no posts in the past 14.5 hours?!? Is everybody off BDing or what? ;)

My temps are completely useless. After so little sleep on Friday night, I was exhausted and went to bed around 6pm last night (I'm such a rude DIL :p ). I temped at my usual time, but the extra sleep (since I usually go to bed around 11pm or midnight) probably caused the big jump.

Tested this morning with an Equate (for variety :) ) and got another BFN. Hey, it said I could use it as early as the first day of my missed period, and FF claims that AF should be showing up any minute now.

[Mystikal]

I love that temp jump!! FTR, I believe the longer you sleep the deeper the sleep and the lower the temp, so I think it's looking pretty good. If implantation occurred later in your LP you may not get a BFP for another couple days!!

FF gave me crosshairs today so I am officially in the 2WW again. *sigh* I hope I don't get my hopes up as much this cycle as I did last cycle. One of my online friends is in her first 2WW right now, too, and she has always said that we are destined to be pg together, and how weird that we are now cycling together...maybe she's right. There I go, getting obsessed again. :p

[amurphy]

Shanna & ShelbyMay: Both your charts are looking good! I know the temptation is to be negative so to avoid getting your hopes up, but a little positivity is definitely called for here. Good luck to you both!

Mystical: Well, the first half of the month wait (waiting to O) is over. Now comes the exciting part! Hoping to join you in the 2ww any day now...

jodylovesscotty: Sorry about stupid old AF. :(

I'm at CD16 and another .2 temp rise this morning. If I get another rise tomorrow, FF puts me at 3DPO. We shall see. I'm anxious to get to the 2ww. Oh. And I'm not holding out so long with testing like I did last cycle. Yes, I saved myself money on tests but sparing myself from seeing the BFN until CD18 (or whatever it was) did not make it any easier. In fact, I think it was harder b/c not seeing the BFN allowed me to keep getting my hopes up. Anyway....off to get my morning coffee. Enjoy the rest of the weekend!

[ShelbyMay]

Quick question about the Equate tests: Is the "test" result supposed to be really light? I definitely did not see a plus sign, but the horizontal negative sign was a really light grey/brown compared to the bright pink control line. Is that just how they're supposed to be? Seems silly to me, because it kept me squinting at the test for a couple minutes even though it was negative.

ETA: How is a bored person supposed to chart stalk if the entire "Testing 8/22-8/28" group has abandoned us? :rolleyes:

[Mystikal]

Shelby can you post a picture?

[jnshanna]

I just realized this morning that I never entered my positive OPK on CD15. I wasn't sure it was positive but looking at it again it looks like it is so I entered it and FF changed my O date to CD15. I'm still overriding it to CD17 though because that would be 36 hours after my positive OPK. So you were right, Flygirl. :) It had to be at least CD17 but could have possibly been CD16 too. Either way BD timing was "high". :D But of course we still only have a 20% chance so I'm trying not to get too happy about it. My temp went down just a little today but I'm not worried about it. I figure if it continues to go down, then I'll be worried.

This is positive, right?
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5d609b3127cce93e6f404f42f00000016108AZOHDdo0auV

I hope your 2WW goes by quickly Mystikal! That is cool about your friend. :)

amurphy ~ I hear ya on the testing. It's such a tough call to make! Hopefully just taking the test earlier this time will make it a little less stressful for you. BTW, your BD timing looks pretty good!

I don't know a whole lot about testing, ShelbyMay so I'll leave that question to an expert. ;) Good luck!

I'm leaving this afternoon so I'll miss the test results. But I'll be back next Friday ready to see lots of BFP's! ;) Hope everyone has a nice week!

[flygirl]

Shelbymay, I looked at your chart before reading your posts & thought, "I think we're going to have another one on our hands!" Yesterday looks like the perfect implantation dip, which explains why you've had BFN's, since hCG doesn't show until about two days after implantation. Your activities *may* have something to do with the temps, but, well, I guess we'll just have to wait & see. **After seeing your recent post: I'm not familiar with that type of Equate (mine have only vertical lines; one control & one a BFP) so I don't know what the negative line is supposed to look like. The test could very well be faulty. But like I said above, you won't see any hCG until a few days past implantation.

jodylovesscotty, :mad: :(. I'm sorry. I'm sending good thoughts your way.

amurphy, aren't you too funny ;). Screw the family...I mean, forget about the family; if (I can't remember who) can drive 6 hours to dtd, you guys can handle the floor. OK... I just hit refresh & realized you're hoping you've already O'd. HOPING!

jnshanna, that is definitely a positive OPK. Your temp is still very high & that dip on 7 DPO looks very pretty. :)

Mystical, fingers crossed that this is your O, because that's great timing!

UTChick, Rrriiiggghhhttt.... :p

[ShelbyMay]

Hrmm, if yesterday was an implantation dip, then what were all those cramps at 5dpo?

I don't have a pic right now, but I'll see if I can get one later.

[ShelbyMay]

You know, every cycle I try to prepare myself, and every cycle it hits me just as hard. Cramps are here... :(

[papergirl]

Huge congratulations to guinness. I hope you have a happy, healthy and enjoyable nine months.

As for me, hopefully this week I will O. I am debating if I should get an OPK or not. My first cycle TTC, when I did get pregnant, I just charted and checked for cervical fluids which seemed to be enough. Since then I have gotten OPK and nothing. I really think I should trust in myself since I got it right once but it’s so hard to know what’s best. Hmmm… should I spend the money or not?

Sending baby dust to all you ladies approching O.

[jjsanner]

I'm here. Took a test this morning...BFN, as expected. It could just be too early. 9 DPO is probably too early to test, right? I dunno, I feel a little off and have been peeing so much and I had such a good feeling about this cycle. Trying not to get too discouraged.

BTW, I still don't have the AF cramps and absolutely no spotting. Actually, I just looked back at my past cycles and it appears that the spotting usually starts around 10 DPO. So I'll check in tomorrow and let ya'll know what's happening.

[Ericka_Jarett]

Hi all,

was away for the weekend. I plugged my numbers from this weekend in and FF put me as Oing on the 11th day, but that would be way too early for me, just having O pains today. Think I have a few days left, but we have BD'd everyday this weekend and will do so for the next week or so. Praying we can catch the egg this time.

Question, when you wake up later than normal, what is the degrees you take off.

[gator97]

jodylovesscotty-sorry about AF

ShelbyMay- not to fuel any obsessions but it's not over until the witch shows. Lots of people get cramps and feel like AF is on her way. . . but a BFP arrives instead. I don't want to get your hopes up but you don't have to give up yet.

Ericka- I believe that it is 1/10 a degree for every 1/2 hour.

[Bellefior]

Sorry I've been incommunicado lately but work has been hectic!

FF has given me dotted cross hairs with an tentative O date at day 14, but I just think that is way off base. I have never O'ed that early in any of my last cycles, day 17-18-19 is a lot more like it. I also had EW on days 16-17 so I'm thinking my O date is actually much later than FF has given me. We'll see what happens as this cycle progresses. Thoughts anyone???

[ShelbyMay]

Sorry for all of the posts, but I'm (obviously) obsessing. The cramps were strong, but they only lasted about 1/2 an hour and AF hasn't shown. Twiddling my thumbs...

Bellefior, I think CD17 seems more likely. I guess the next couple of temps will tell for sure.

[cat_loverpq]

Just poking my head in to see how everyone is doing. :) Today is CD10 and I had some strange cramping this morning. It seems way too early for O pains (especially since I usually O around CD18-19) but I've never had random cramps before. :confused: Very weird. But, no EWCM so I'm sure it was nothing.

jody ~ Sorry about AF. :(

ShelbyMay ~ Like gator said, don't give up hope yet!

amurphy ~ Wishing **baby dust** upon you!

Mystikal ~ Hopefully this will be the month for you and your friend! :D

[Ilovemygeek]

Okay, my temps are a little strange this cycle. FF put my O at CD30, but I had a major temp drop at 5DPO, well below my coverline and it has stayed low for the past two days. FF still has me as Oing despite my temps and fertile CM after O. Is FF just that off or is their a glimmer of hope for me? I know that 5DPO is early for an implantation dip and that would be a major dip, so I probably have not O'd yet, but any interpretations would be appreciated.

[ShelbyMay]

Rachel, I could be wrong, but my guess is that you haven't O'd yet. I once O'd on CD44, and then this cycle it was something like CD19. :rolleyes: I hope yours gets straightened out soon!

[klav]

OK I've been sitting here watching everyone hopeing good thing will happen and this am my temp went up a bit 98.1 good sign? hoping so I have again not had any signs or symptoms but DH did make a comment on my BB's the otehr night when we went swimming... "hey are your BB BIgger?" HUmm hope so because that would be a sign..... LOL the only thing I can say I've had is sore NP's but that happened last cycle and nothing... It's what 12 day's past O and I have not tested should I or just wait till firday when AF is to show? :confused:

[Bellefior]

Shelby I put in another high temp this morning and it changed O date to CD 16, which is more in line with past charts, but CD 14 would have worked better in terms of timing. Guess our suspicions were right!

Threadmistress, you may move me to waiting to O. Not sure if/when I am going to test however, since FF keeps changing to O date and it seems our timing was off this month given the inconsistencies/changes in the chart!

[Wrighty26]

ACK! I went away for the weekend and there is so much I missed!

Jodylovesscotty - Sorry about AF :(
jnshanna - YAY! A positive OPK :) Hope the 2ww flies by for you!
ShelbyMay - Don't give up yet!!
jjsanner- I've got my fingers crossed for you! Your chart is looking good!
gator97 - It good to hear that your feeling good after the lap. I hope that the Dr. is able to bring you some good news regarding your adenomyosis. I can't even imagine what you are going through :(
Bellefior - I would go with CD 16 or 17 too. Sometimes I think FF is smoking a little too much crack :D
Ilovemygeek - :( I agree with ShelbyMay... Your chart is looking a lot like mine initially did after going off the pill, with the hormones going every which way.

I don't doubt I've missed people-- so I apologize-- good luck to all of those testing!

As for me-- CD 7. WOO! I have my ultrasound on Thursday-- I guess so my Dr. can tell if I'm about to O or not? I have no idea. I guess that's about right since I started Clomid on CD 1.

I hope everyone has a great week!

[Baby Lust]

There are some nice charts out there!! Shelby and UT, Lookin' good girls! :D

Jody and Bellefior, Sorry about AF :mad: On to a new cycle!


Tested this morning just to put any slight hope to rest and it was BFN so now I just wait for AF to come, then we are starting back up on Clomid. This break is exactly what DH and I needed. He is so excited to start really trying again. That makes me so happy :) And this will be our first month trying in our new place so hopefully I can follow everyone else's footsteps and get a BFP! :D

Hope there are some BFPs in our future! Good luck everyone!

[gymwidow]

amurphy, I agree, about not waiting so long to test. The last 2 cycles I spent too many days just wondering and hoping, and if I had just taken the HPT earlier and seen that BFN it would've put my mind much more at ease. This cycle I'm going to *try* to wait till 11 or 12DPO (my longest LP so far has been 11 days). Good luck!

jmshanna, that definitely looks like a positive OPK to me!

Rachel, it doesn't look clear to me that you O'd yet. Maybe FF is giving crosshairs based on CM? But your temps don't indicate a true O. How long have you been off the BCP? I didn't get a clear O, and had wacky temps, for a few months after I stopped taking them.

Baby Lust, I'm glad the break was good for you. I hope the Clomid does the trick this cycle and you get your BFP!

Well, I had a temp jump yesterday, up to 98.0, and then today it plummeted back down to 97.2. But, it did that EXACT same thing last cycle when FF gave me a clear O on CD20. I plugged in a few high temps for the next few days and FF gave me dotted lines for an O on Saturday = CD18. Saturday sounds about right to me - on Friday I had what would have been EWCM, but it was pink b/c of all the spotting. I'm not going to call it yet, until I get a few more temps and see if they go back up again.

Anyway, if O was indeed Saturday, then I think DH and I timed things pretty well. We BD'd Friday night, but missed Saturday b/c we were up so late and were so exhausted that we just fell asleep that night. But after I saw a temp rise yesterday, I made sure we got an early BD in just in case! So b/w Friday night and Sunday morning, I think any egg that found its way out on Saturday would hopefully have been met by DH's little guys.

So, if all that's true, then today is 2DPO. This week will tell if I'm right!

[Ryan]

Hi girls:

well I am out... AF should up on Friday.. LOUD AND CLEAR....

So threadmistress could you move me to THE BORING PHASE

Baby Lust: Fingers crossed for you!

Good luck to everyone else this week....

[amurphy]

Shanna: You nearly gave me a heart attack with that OPK. I thought it was a HPT at first glance!

Shelby: Things are still looking good for you. Looks like an implantation dip at 10DPO and cramps before a BFP is fairly normal. Fingers crossed!

jjsanner Good luck! Stay away AF! Stay away!

Klav I'm on the fence about testing before 14DPO. I suppose you could test before AF is due if you are prepared to deal with a potentially false BFN.

Babylust: Congratulations for starting TTC again. Hope this is your cycle!

Ryan: Sorry about AF's arrival. :(

I'm CD17 and 3DPO according to FF. I think we'll keep up the BDing just to be sure though b/c I had a lot of EWCM yesterday. So, came into work this morning knowing that my good friend was going to test this weekend. She's pregnant (on her second cycle off BCP). I'm excited for her, but a little sad for me. I hope that I can join her in another 2 weeks. It would be so fun to go through this experience with her. Anyway, I'm not sure about testing b/c we are leaving for Paris on 9/7 and I'll only be 12DPO. Should I test then or wait until we get back on 17DPO? I guess it will depend on how I'm feeling before we leave.

Threadmistress: Could you put me down for "Think I O'd, testing 9/12-9/9/18"

[klav]

amurphy i suppose you are right I can wait till friday and or sat AM :(

[mkvh]

Hi ladies! There are some lovely looking charts out there (jnshanna, shelbymay, UTChick)!!!

Hang in there, klav. You can wait!
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Me: my temps are nuts. I have no idea what's going on. I truly think I o'd on CD 15, and I have the LFC cervix and dry-up to prove it. But my temps are bouncing all over the place. I will wait (impatiently) to see what tomorrow brings...

So if I play with my settings and switch back to "Advanced", I get solid CH for CD 14. Which is kinda what I thought...hmmmm

[ShelbyMay]

I never did get a good picture of the equate test, but maybe you can see what I'm talking about here -- The results window is just so much lighter than the control window (even though I am sure it is a BFN):

http://images.snapfish.com/3448563523232%7Ffp58%3Dot%3E2329%3D375%3D396%3DXRO QDF%3E2323%3A73733543ot1lsi

[ds2003]

Hi all.

Here are a few shoutouts.

amurphy I would wait until your return from Paris. A BFN could ruin your trip.

klav Wait until you know AF is late. I know it sometimes sucks having a long LP cause you have to wait longer to know that AF is late. My LP is 15 days so I can relate. I get spotting around lunch time on 15DPO and by 16DPO she is here.

[Ericka_Jarett]

Shelby,

If I were you and my temp goes back up, I would use a different test. I have found Answer tests to be the same price (6.97 for a 2 pack, some have coupons inside for $1.00 off next purchase) as the Equate tests (almost $4 a test) and see if you get a BFP with them. I am not big on the ones that give you plus signs, they are hard to see all the time. I also like the CBE Digital, but since they are more expensive I use them after I get a BFP with the other tests. Just an opinion.

[cat_loverpq]

Quick question....Is CD11 too early to O? As I mentioned before, I usually O on CD 18-19, but I had slight cramps yesterday and today, and I noticed some EWCM a little bit ago. Could I be about to O this early in my cycle? :confused:

[Ericka_Jarett]

cat_loverpq,

As for the answer to your question, I guess it could be possible but that's usually if you have short cycles I believe. Sorry can't be of more help.

I put my temps in my chart and it said I o'd on CD 11, which doesn't happen for me, I usually O on CD 22, so when I fixed my temp it put me as didn't O yet. I had slight EWCM but it lasted for only about 3 hours and was gone, having O pains now, so know it's coming soon.

[marteneym]

Jody and Ryan Sorry about AF!

Gymwidow Mindy got pg with a chart full of spotting. She didnt think she had a chance and is now 14wks. All crossable for you! BTW< your chart is still just showing cd1 info when we try to stalk it.

Shelby Sorry about the BFN. Hang in there. I agree with Erika, I dont tend to like the + or - tests. Try a different brand. You are not out yet. Alll Crossables for you!

Shanna That is definitely a positive OPK. Grab your DH and keep bding.

Rachel I agree with the others, I don't think you have O'ed yet. Sorry. COME ON OVARIES, GET IN GEAR AND O! :D

Amanda I am so excited that you are back to official TTCing. Glad to hear DH is on board and excited as well. That makes life so much easier. I am glad the break helped. Good luck with the Chlomid.

amurphy I just had a friend announce her BFP this weekend as well. I hope this is it for you. I would love to be pg with a friend as well. All corssables for you.

Sorry to anyone I missed. Hope you all had a good weekend.

What I thought might have been a temp rise last week was just me being hot. I did get some more EWCM Sunday and a little darker line on the OPK. I am not sure if I am past the surge or coming up on it because I didnt do OPK's for a few days and am out now. I went to $Tree on lunch and they didnt carry the opk's. GRR! Maybe I will try another one tonight. Not sure I want to pay the price at the grocery store for 10 when i only want enough to last til our camping trip this weekend. I guess I will just watch my temps. DH was so funny when I talked to him at lunch. He asked if the second line was darker this morning. Of course he doesnt realize I take them in the evening, but it was sweet of him to ask. I love that he is so excited now.

We scheduled our 1st appt with the Infertility Nurse for Thursday 9/29. I am anxious to go and hopefully get some answers.

Please add:1st Infertility Appt. 9/29 to my stats.
Thanks

[gymwidow]

marteneym, thanks, that makes me feel a lot better! I haven't been able to get my link to work for a while. I have no idea what the problem is; maybe I'll email FF to see if they can figure it out.

[UTChick]

marteneym~I hope you get some answers at your appointment.

Ericka_Jarret~ Hopefully that O is just around the corner!

cat_lover~Wish I could help but I don't have a clue.

jjsanner and Shelby~Still lookin' good! :D

Baby Lust~Welcome back!!

Ryan~Ugh! Sorry about AF. :(

klav~ I'm in the same boat. I am toying with testing on Wednesday, but I don't know if I should.

Wrighty~Good luck with the ultrasound on Thursday.

Sorry if I missed anyone. I miss so much while I am at work!

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Well, I had a really high temp this morning but noted on FF that I tossed and turned a lot last night. We have family in Biloxi and hadn't heard what their plans were for evacuation and I didn't sleep well. And then this afternoon I started getting AF-like cramps in my lower back and had that "feeling" that AF had shown. Went to the restroom at 3:00 and no AF. Some creamy CM and no spotting. FF says I am 12dpo and I say I am 10dpo. So AF would either show on Wed. or Friday. I am thinking about testing on Wed. but I don't know. It could be too soon. I just don't think I can hold out much longer than that. Especially since DH has been wanting me to test since Friday!! :rolleyes:

[crazycaro]

I guess we are not too good at taking a break, because we're pregnant again! We've been lucky enough to fall pregnant right after my miscarriage last month, unbelievable.

This pregnancy is so different to last months, I have tons more symptoms, HPTs that get darker with each new day etc.

We're delighted and feeling optimistic that this one's going to stick. :)

Can I please be moved to the appropriate category. :)

Good luck to all!

Caroline

[marteneym]

Congrats crazycaro! {{{Sending Sticky Baby Vibes your way!}}}

[ShelbyMay]

Congrats, Caroline!!! That is great news!

[ds2003]

Congrats Caroline!

[gymwidow]

Congrats Caroline! That's great news and I'm so thrilled for you! Sticky vibes comin' at ya! :D

[UTChick]

What wonderful news, Caroline!! :D

[Parrothead]

I am a lurking, unofficial "member" of this thread, de-lurking to ask a question....

My cycles are screwy -- been 33, 30 and 32 days since going off BCP. I am currently on CD 34 and no AF. My last EWCM was on CD 20 (so, I could have O'd as late as CD 22).

When would you test? FYI, I have EPT Certainty Digital tests.....(not sure how sensitive those are!)

Thanks!

[Ilovemygeek]

ShelbyMay, Wrighty26, gymwidow, marteneym Thank you so much for your quick responses. I love how helpful all of you experienced ladies are! FF took away my crosshairs today, no big shock. I have only been off the pill since the middle of June so I guess I should expect my body to be a little wacky for a while, but doesn't it know I want to be pregnant now? :)

Congratulations Caroline!

[mkvh]

Congrats Caroline!!!!

Off to do some stalking before I do the remainder of SOs...

[Bellefior]

Well FF changed my O date yet again to Day 17, which is in line with my prior charts. Of course that means it is highly unlikely once again this month was the month, since on O date we were at the beach at the ILs house with no privacy. Thank God they are closing the house up after Labor Day because there is no privacy there and as I told DH who jokingly suggested, I am not going for a little drive! I'm way too old for that. For the last 2 months O date has fallen on weekends we were visiting his parents. No more. From now on, when O is coming up, I will be staying in my own house regardless of what is going on with his relatives or how bad they want us to visit. I think DH knew I was pretty pissed.

Congrats to Caro and all the other BFPs this month!

[mkvh]

Bellefior, sorry for the bad shift in O date... glad to hear you put your foot down about BD!

No one really has updated yet, so I will check back later on. It has been SOO quiet in here this week!
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Me: Unless someone can provide me with a compelling argument to the contrary ;) , Threadmistress, please move me to "Think I O'd--Testing 8/28-9/4" . I only had a 9 day LP last month (I think), so at 6 DPO today, I think I will test Saturday (okay, probably Friday :rolleyes: ).

[Mystikal]

Caroline congratulations!!!!! :D I hope this one is sticky for you!
Belle that really sucks!! :( I hope you get a chance to catch the eggie next month!
mkvh Here's hoping AF stays away! Just remember, Friday may be too early to get a definite result on an HPT, so if you see a BFN don't get discouraged!!

Hey all, I'm thinking of backing away from the therm this month. :eek: Maybe I won't obsess that much...it'll be hard, but I think I can do it. :p

[Lizard]

Congrats Caroline!!

Nothing going on here at all... just waiting for O. Since my cycles have been so even, I think I'm going to wait until a little later this cycle to start our BD fest, heh. :) We always end up starting early and then it's somewhat of a chore to follow through, so to speak... sad but true. FF is giving me good guidelines so I'm going to give them a try this month.

Something I'm a little ticked about.... 3 months ago or so, I sent for maternity information from a nearby hospital. This hospital is very new, state of the art, and best of all right by our house, so I wanted some information on their services, doctors, etc. Well, they sent back a gigantic package including admittance forms, "Congrats on your pregnancy" brochures, etc. Now I'm getting a monthly newsletter telling me how big my baby is, welcome to the 2nd trimester, etc. :( I'm going to call them today and ream them out good. The card I filled out for info did not ask if you were pregnant, so they're just assuming that everyone that sends for info on maternity is newly pregnant... that is a very bad assumption in my opinion.

[klav]

Congrats Caroline!!!!
THREE TO FOUR DAY'S AND COUNTING FOR af TO SHOW?

[amurphy]

UTChick: I hope your family is okay. I can understand why you would toss-and-turn all night worrying about them. It must have been nerve-wracking!

Caroline: Big, big congratulations! :D

Mystical: Looks like we are cycle buddies again! I'm trying my best not to obsess this cycle. I won't be putting away the thermometer but I won't be anaylzing every little twinge.....or at least that's my theory. :rolleyes:

Bellefior: Thank goodness you are locking the house up soon! DH and I have decided to prioritize our BDing above modesty when it comes to close quarters! I think we manage to keep it pretty quiet though. ;)

mkvh: Looks like a nice implantation dip at 5DPO. You should go ahead on test on Friday if that is what you are comfortable doing. Just remember that IF it is a BFN, it might be too early for an accurate result. Good luck! Keep those temps (and spirits) up!

4DPO. I probably won't wait until after Paris to test. I don't want to drink all that wine and then find out that I'm PG. So, I'll test the morning we leave (12DPO) and keep in mind that it may be too early. That's the plan.

[gymwidow]

Rachel, I think a lot of us know exactly how you feel!

Lizard, how annoying!

amurphy, good plan. If you do get good news, you'll have even more reason to celebrate while you're there!

I'm feeling pretty down today. My temp, which jumped so high on Sunday and then plummeted yesterday, stayed low today. So no O for me last weekend, I guess. It's CD21 today, and last month I O'd on CD20, so I guess nothing is really abnormal, but with the spotting and the ups and downs in my temps this month, it's just frustrating. I wish I could share my chart with you guys, but I can't even get my link to work! :mad:

Ugh. I bought some OPKs this morning on my way to work and am not drinking anything now as recommended. I'll use one this morning and see what it says. And probably another tonight. DH told me that he's worried I'm getting too stressed about this, and he doesn't want stress to interfere with us getting pregnant. I told him I'm doing my best NOT to stress, but that it's just my nature to want to be in control of everything and the hardest part of this is that I feel like I have no control at all. Which is why I temp and chart and everything. I tried not charting for a month back in June and it made it even harder for me! :rolleyes:

I'm going to try and really focus on work today and not this, so I might not be around much today. But I'll check in soon! Have a great day everyone. :)

[Ericka_Jarett]

am,

you could always take a test with you to Paris, so you can test on DPO 14 or 15

[cat_loverpq]

Caroline ~ Congratulations and best of luck!

Bellefior ~ Sorry to hear about the IL's "interfering". This is our first month TTC and my expected O date is this Labor Day weekend. Conveniently we will be spending the weekend at my parents' house. :( However, they will be out of town watching my brother's football game, so we'll have at least a little bit of privacy. ;)

Mystikal ~ Best of luck on not obsessing!

Lizard ~ I know what you mean about hospitals and people wanting maternity info. We toured a hospital a week ago (they were having an open house for their newly renovated NICU). While on the tour we met some nurses and told them we were "shopping". They were like, "Shopping for what?" Umm, hello, a hospital?! They all gave us the strangest look b/c I'm not pg and yet was wanting info on their maternity services. Geez people, some of us actually like to PLAN for these things, you know? :rolleyes:

amurphy ~ I would probably test before leaving as well. I would feel really bad if I found out later that I was pg (after all the drinking) and didn't bother to check beforehand. Of course, theoretically you may get a BFN and still be pg, but at least you will have checked. :)

gymwidow ~ Sorry you are getting so frustrated. I am also one who likes to be in control so I can totally sympathize with you. I hope your temps start to even out for you and you get your O soon!

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Still a low temp for me this morning, so no early O it seems. I'm actually happy about that. We're going to try the Shettles method for having a girl, and I really want to be able to do everything like the book says and see if it works for us. :)

[Ryan]

Congrats CARO!

[katmg]

CD 11 for me - I've got my DH's family in from Louisiana and Mississippi right now due to the hurricane. Things are a little stressful - I'm hoping it doesn't delay O.

Lizard - I would definitely write a letter to the hospital. That's really annoying.

[ShelbyMay]

13dpo and a BFN on the Answer test. Still too early? My average LP is only 11 days.

I'm not being very efficient these past couple of days because I keep running to the bathroom to check for AF. It's always just CM, but I feel compelled to check. :rolleyes:

Last night, I dreamed about POAS -- How crazy is that? I actually dreamed that I woke up and went to the bathroom, then only remembered afterward that I needed that FMU for my test! Gotta think of something else...

[ds2003]

Mystikal I put the therm away for most of this current cycle. So far I am very pleased with my decision. I am stressing much less this cycle and I’m getting more sleep. I have been relying on CM and OPKs. For the past 2 cycles I reliably got a positive OPK. This cycle I’ve gotten all negative OPKs, but my CM and bbs are telling me different. I had globs of EWCM on Friday and then on Saturday I had a tad bit of EWCM followed by a dry spell. I’m still in that dry spell, so I think I O’d on Friday. Had I temped for the whole cycle I would have a better idea based on my temps, but I may have been stressed and sleepless from testing and ended up with bad temps. I have a prog test on Friday so I’ll know for sure if I have O’d. Looking back I’m glad I didn’t temp, but I wish I had caught the surge with the OPK. I took Femara this cycle so maybe it gave me a shorter stronger surge rather than a weaker longer surge that I detected with the OPKs for the last two cycles

[ds2003]

Shelby - sorry for the BFN. Are Answer test very sensitive?

[ShelbyMay]

I think the Answer tests are 25 miu...?

[ABirney]

Hi ladies! I've been lurking the past few weeks and was hoping to join officially in a month or two, but DH and I took our chances a couple times this month and I am now in the 2WW and thought you guys could keep me company! We have been charting to avoid since December, but kind of bent the rules this month (we were on vacation, plus TTC was just around the corner... you know how it goes! ;) ) Here is a link to my chart:
http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrsabirney
Also, do you guys think they have my O date right? I can see how it is possible but I think maybe CD23 lines up better with my CM and CP signs, plus I have a stronger rise after that than after CD21, where they have it. The notes at the bottom basically say that we were camping, so not sure how accurate the temps are due to the temp in the tent. (I did bring a battery alarm clock and temp at the same time daily.) My CM today on internal exam was blood tinged, so that's the "spotting" on the chart. Not enough to show up on the tp.

[klav]

is there anyone here takeing progesterone? I had a question about it.....

:o just popping in to say HELLLLLOOOOO!!! :)
hey.. just looked at FF did they cange there format?? or did i forget??? looks better

[Ericka_Jarett]

they changed the look of the front page, but once you go in your chart it's exactly the same.

[ShelbyMay]

Starting to wonder if I'm in some sort of denial. :( I mean, I feel different than in past cycles and I'm 2 days later than average, but wouldn't I see at least some sort of faint line if there's anything there? MY BFNs have all been definite BIG FAT NEGATIVES, you know? We're going out of town on Saturday and I'd really like to know by then... Surely by 17dpo, right?

[Ericka_Jarett]

Shelby,

You can get the digitals and know for sure, they are usually 99% accurate. Sorry to hear your body is screwing you up like this.

[ShelbyMay]

Don't the digitals require a higher level of HcG?

[Ericka_Jarett]

I used CBE Digital. They require 25 mIU, you should have a clear pregnant or not pregnant show up. The ones I got were from Walmart and 2 tests to a pack for less than $10. The package says (I have it in front of me) that you can test any time of the day and as early as the day of your missed period. Just one thing with digital that I have seen some women talk about. When you pop the test out of the holder, ignore the 2 lines you see, the instructions even tell you to, because the digitals are not like your normal POAS tests, they don't show lines of being pregnant or not, it's simply the words on the test holder. They will stay for only 1 hour though, so if you want hubby to see what it says, you will have to do it when he is around.

Good luck. I loved the digitals ended up using 4 when I was pregnant with Rebekah, cause I couldn't believe my eyes.

Here is an e-bay auction for them even. http://cgi.ebay.com/QTY-6-SEALED-CLEARBLUE-EASY-READ-PREGNANCY-TESTS_W0QQitemZ5611503547QQcategoryZ36437QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem

[jjsanner]

Shelby, I'm in the exact same boat! I tested again late last night after holding it for over 5 hours, and a definite BFN. But I am telling ya'll, after having been there before, I **think** that I am preggo. Yesterday was still only 10DPO so it was definately still early. I'm gonna try again tomorrow and see what happens. I'm also gonna try a different brand (I used First Response for the past two tests).

[crazycaro]

Thank you guys!!!

Shelby, not sure what is up for you - how frustrating. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you that a BFP still shows up, yours temps are so high.

Caroline

[ShelbyMay]

I think I'm just crazy. :rolleyes:

[UTChick]

Three pages worth since last night! CC is now all of the sudden, a restricted site for me at work. I guess they caught me... :o Or something was posted on this site since yesterday that caused a big red flag to go up. Hope I don't get in trouble. So...now it's evenings and weekends only for me.

Just a couple of SO's since it would take forever to catch up.

Shelby~Keep the faith. :p It's not over til it's over.

amurphy~I'd test before leaving, too. That way you wouldn't feel guilty the whole time.

Lizard~How irritating!

ABirney~Welcome!

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Tossed and turned again last night, so I am not sure how accurate my temp is. I think I am going to test in the morning. :o I've never been this nervous about testing before. I'll be 14dpo according to FF and 12dpo according to me. We'll see...

[Mystikal]

My temps were down yesterday and today and I had a bit more EWCM today so I think I might not have O'ed yet. *sigh* I'm on CD22 right now, and that is the day I usually O so DH and I will BD tonight and hope that the EWCM means I'll O tomorrow...we shall see...

[gator97]

Congrats Caro!

Sorry that things are so confusing for you Shelby. Hope you have the answer that you want soon!

[kmmommy]

I need some advice. I'm on CD 37 right now. Before DS and even for a couple months after he was born (once AF came back) my cycle was 28 days. I didn't have a visit in Feb or March but AF came back in April. Since then my cycles have been 35 days. On Sunday I started spotting and have been since. ***TMI possible*** It's been mostly brown and not even getting to the panty liner. Also, it's been a little watery. The only time it was red was after I had a BM. On CD 18 I spotted a tiny bit - light pink. Just wanting some opinions on if you think I should test or not.

TIA!

[Ericka_Jarett]

Kelly,

I would bit the bullet and say test, doesn't have to be with a super expensive one, just a cheapy for your own piece of mind.

[crazycaro]

Kelly - I spotted for two days with this pregnancy, first time I have ever spotted, pregnant or not. Mine was pink one night, red the next night, and brown the following morning. Like you, not enough to hit my undies.

I would test if I were you. I tested the day of the brown spotting and got a faint +.

Good luck!

[kmmommy]

Thanks girls! Congrats Caro - sticky vibes to you!

Now, stupid me doesn't have any pg tests in the house. We actually didn't try this month since my sister is getting married in May. Go figure. So, I'll have to get one tomorrow.

[UTChick]

BFN this morning. *sigh*

My temp plummeted. However, I took my temp at 3:50 this morning. DH had to get up really early and his alarm woke me up at 3:40. When it became obvious that I wasn't going back to sleep, I went ahead and took my temp. How do you adjust temps or is that even possible? I usually temp at 5:15-5:30. Approx. how different could my temp be if I had temped at the regular time?

I won't test again unless AF doesn't show on Friday. This sucks.

[Ericka_Jarett]

I believe someone said it was .1 for each half hour. I had the same question since I woke up later. They said take .1 off each half hour and you add .1 to each half hour if you woke up too early.

Me - having O pain I believe. According to TCOYF online, I have entered my fertile phase today. Should be Oing on Monday. My mom is possibly coming to town this weekend, so we have to BD the rest of this week and party of next to cover our bases.

[UTChick]

Thanks, Ericka. That would make it 98.0 ish, which is better, but not fabulous. We'll see what happens.

[Ericka_Jarett]

Welcome, hope that was the right information.

Good luck

[Bellefior]

A temp dip of 98.0 this morning. FF Friend changed my O date from 14 to 16 to 18. I know I said the change in O dates made this month unlikely to be the month. Now I'm wondering if the O date of 14 was right and it could be an implantation dip? Too early from AF, but maybe just a fluke?

[klav]

I have a question ... but I wanted to ask those who were takeing progesteron cream? is there anyone?? not sure if the temp jump was due to a slight cold? hope I'm not getting sick woke up with a slight sore throat bu it seems to be fading I think it just might be the air?? yeah right..LOL so anyone takeng progesterone? :confused: :confused:

[mkvh]

klav: pretty jump today. And i have heard of several women who had sore throats...right before BFPs! When are you testing?

shelby & jjsanner: sorry you're so confused...hope you get POSITIVE answers soon! :D

UTChick: don't lose hope yet...you're still above the CL.

Kelly: ITA with jj...test for your own peace of mind!

amurphy: thanks for the validation yesterday!!

Whoever asked about adjusting temps, yes, it is .1 for every 1/2 hour. BUT that is just an estimate. You may be different. TCOYF advises that if you don't know how YOUR body reacts, then don't adjust.
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Me: I started temping at 5 a.m. instead of 6 b/c hubby is back at work. When I played with adjusting those temps, my chart looks a little better. But I put it back the way it was. I'm 7DPO today and have been very crampy since 5 DPO...my lower back was KILLING me last night. Probably FPS!

[klav]

I was not going to test until after Friday.. when AF is to show. anyway I was wondering about the progesterone and all... when I was wiping I had some tint of dark brown .... in the cream from that afternoon I was wondering if any one else had a build up of cream ... not to be too gross.. not wanting to get hopes up.. Af or impalntation spotting??

[amurphy]

abirney: Welcome! Maybe you'll be one of the really luck ones who joins this thread for only a week or two and then gets a BFP. Good luck!

Ericka: I bought some CBE digitals too. I was surprised that they were under $10. I used one last cycle but I'm not sure if I like that the results are SO clear. There is no suspense! I'm sure I would like them a lot better if I got a "Pregnant" result. ;)

jjsanner & shelby: I understand the torture of not knowing... You either want that BFP or AF so that you can start a new cycle. (Last cycle, my temp didn't come down until a few days after AF arrived--not to discourage you for hoping for that BFP, but thought I would share that bit of info. since it confused me to no end!) Good luck to you both! Fingers are crossed for you! :D

mkvh: Still looking good there, girlie! :cool:

mystical: I think you'll have to see what tomorrow's temp is before you disregard your early O date. However, I would keep BDing in the meantime!

5DPO for me and a .3 temp jump this morning. Continuing to try to ignore FPS since I had so many last cycle . . . One more thing, I'm feeling so undivided about my friend's pregnancy. Yes, that first day I was a little sad and jealous. But now I'm just happy for her and hoping that I join her soon. I'm so glad I didn't turn into a big jerk about it. Phew!

[gymwidow]

Good morning ladies. I'm in a much better mood today and am thinking positively about our TTC experience. First, I spent some time last night and this morning reminding myself that this is only our second month really trying, and that just because my temp jumped up and down a couple of times and I haven't O'd yet this month does NOT mean that I should despair. In reality, there were pretty legit reasons for me to have those two higher temps and CD22 is not too late to O, nor is it even abnormal.

So, with all that in mind, I bought some OPKs yesterday and used two, one at 11 am and one at 7 pm. I got definite pink lines, but they weren't quite as dark as the control, so I guess that means no LH surge yet? I'll use another tonight and see if it gets darker.

In other news, the spotting seems to have stopped. I haven't had any since yesterday morning, at least not externally. Sorry if this is TMI, but none appeared on the pantyliner or tp today, but when I checked CM internally, I got some red streaks in what otherwise is definitely EWCM (I was so excited to see the very stretchy EWCM!). Do I count the red streaks as spotting?

I'm actually looking forward to my u/s tomorrow. I hope I can get some answers about all the spotting, and some reassurance that everything is fine and that we should be able to get pregnant. :)

[mkvh]

ABirney: forgot to welcome you! I joined here for the same reason you did...only we're starting a YEAR early!

Bellefior: must admit I'm a bit perplexed by your chart. EW aside, you could have O'd earlier for sure. What detection setting are you using on FF?

amurphy: you're a doll! Personally, I think my chart is pretty ugly myself, but at least the temps are heading in the right direction! You're not looking so bad yourself. Here's to an even HIGHER tempt tomorrow!

gymwidow: glad to hear that you're in a better place today. I would count the red streaks as spotting...could be from O! Good luck with the u/s tomorrow! Keep us posted.
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So do you guys think I o'd on CD14 like FF does?? I do...but FF 'warns' me that I could have o'd later based on CM on day 15. Argh! The stress!! :p

[Bellefior]

mkhv, I have FF set on advanced. I changed it to the other option just to see what would happen and it did not change my O date or coverline.

[gymwidow]

mkvh, I think CD15 is a definitely possibility. You had the big temp jump the day after, and the CM is "right" for it.

[mkvh]

Hmmm...Belle...well, then I guess we have to agree with it, right? :D And it DOES coincide with the dry up. I was asking b/c I don't get CH w/ FAM because of the two high temps within 5 days of my rise, but I get them with Advanced. Within a day of when I *think* I should have them...

[ShelbyMay]

14dpo and NOT PREGNANT according to the CBE digital.

I think I am just going to give up on testing altogether. If a baby pops out sometime in May, then I'll know that I was pregnant. :rolleyes:

TMI WARNING: I woke up at 3:45am with really bad cramps following a nocturnal orgasm. This is the same thing that happened at 5dpo, and it's never happened before this cycle. The cramps went away a couple minutes after I woke up, and AF still isn't here. :confused:

[Bellefior]

Okay, I sprung for a FF subscription and manually changed my O date to day 14, still no indication of a possible pregnancy. However, when I took the override away and left it on day 17, I ended up with a dashed instead of a solid line and it won't go back to solid. Any idea of why this happened (other than my chart looks nutty?)?

ETA: Never mind I fixed it by taking the temp out then putting it back in. Maybe this is what happens with manual override?

[mkvh]

melissa: (we cross-posted) darn! that's not what I wanted to hear! :p All that work earlier in my cycle... If I take out the 2 97.5s earlier in my cycle (which may have been disturbed; i know ONE was), then a CD 13 O is reasonable too... At least I'm within a couple days.

[amurphy]

Not too confusing the situation even more, mkvh, but I thought CD13 looked like a good possiblity too for the same reason I think I may have O'd before CD14. My temp was really low and then just keeps climbing, like yours does after CD13. Clearly FF does nothing but confuse me. :rolleyes:

[Bellefior]

Clearly FF does nothing but confuse me. :rolleyes:

Agree 100%!!!

[Ericka_Jarett]

Shelby,

Sorry to hear of the Not Pregnant, I see from your chart that your cycle is not always exactly say 30 days. Unfortunately maybe you didn't really O this month, although you had the temp rise, may have had an anovulatory cycle. I feel O pain this month, but didn't last month and than the month before I felt it. Could be what is happening with you, that you just didn't ovulate this month. So sorry to hear about the BFN though.


I haven't been trying to think about it as much this cycle as the last cycles. When I conceived Rebekah we BDed on the day that I knew I ovulated and that was all really. I had temped off and on for 2 months before but wasn't obsessing. But this time around I am trying to cover my bases and BD every day until after the weekend. I have 4 tests in the house (2 Answer and 2 CBE Digital) but going to try and hold out longer than last time.

[Baby Lust]

Congrats Caro! :D That is great news!

Sorry about the BFNs out there. :rolleyes: Those are no fun. Hopefully there will be some BFPs coming up soon! There are some beautiful charts out there! No worries! :)

[klav]

so when does the Sept thread start? ..... I assume tomorrow?? yippieee
new start!! new baby dust!! freash new month!! :p :D :p

[Charting is Knowledge]

Yes, the September thread will start tomorrow. :D

I will work on updates this afternoon... bear with me! :o

[mkvh]

amurphy: FWIW, your CL is REALLY high compared to last month. Hmmm...food for thought.

belle: i guess that's why everyone says to call your OWN O, not let FF call it...we're just not good enough yet, I guess. Where's flygirl when you need her?? :)

babylust--no need to apologize AT ALL...you do an AWESOME JOB!

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I was just looking at my chart from last month, and I was very crampy on 7-8 DPO with watery cm and started spotting on 9 DPO...maybe not looking so good with a CD 13 O date this month. Although looking @ last month's chart, it's entirely possible I O'd earlier than CD17, but with the missing temps, I can't tell. So...maybe I had an 11 day LP instead of 9.... Sorry for the rambling...just thinking out loud!

[ShelbyMay]

Maybe I will regain my sanity and be less whiny in the September thread. ;) Thanks to all of you for putting up with me so far.

I adjusted the data in FF and am now including ALL of my previous charts, whereas before I had discounted my first three charts off BCP. Now it says my avg. LP is 13 days long and my test day is tomorrow. My longest LP ever was 17 days, so I should know something for sure by Sunday at the latest. Maybe I will take just one test with me when I go out of town (if AF hasn't shown up by then).

[Sabriel]

Hi girls! I am back from my trip and I have a lot of catching up to do! I have 14 pages to read through. Yikes!

Well, as luck would have it my first cycle TTC was annovulatory. I started having withdrawal bleeding on my trip. I haven't had any cramps like with my normal AF, so that's good at least. Oh well, on to cycle number 2!

[ds2003]

threadmistress, please move me to "Think I O'ed - Testing 9/12 - 9/18"

I may test earlier since DH's birthday is 9/10, but AF is due 9/11 so I will try to hold out until Monday 9/12

[klav]

Sabriel sorry to hear about that hopefully Sept will be better!!
I hope for all of us!!
ShelbyMay hey don't worry we all have our moments that's what were here for right? whine a way!! would you like some cheese with that :D ? LOL

[LIZNKEITH]

Jus had to pop in and congratulate Caroline! I'm so excited for you sweetie. Wishing you a happy, healthy, and sticky 9 months! :D

[Sabriel]

Congrats crazycaro!!! Happy and healthy 9 months to you!

[flygirl]

I am so ridiculously behind! I've been trying to catch up on the thread whenever I can, but I just haven't had the time to post. DH is still home (!), but he could be called pretty much any time. I had my best friend stay with me for 2 weeks (left yesterday), so it's been pretty hectic!.

CONGRATULATIONS, CAROLINE

Shelby, you must be driving yourself insane! If CD31 was an implantation dip, the it makes sense that you wouldn't see anything for a few days. *Fingers crossed!*

mkvh, you're too funny :P. Don't remind me that I've spent wwaayy too much time studying this stuff :rolleyes:. However, I agree with gymwidowthat you O'd CD15 (not CD14). In most women, estrogen levels begin to drop just before you O, so you begin to experience the signs of O first. This is why most women seem to O on the last day of or the day after fertile CM. I also think you O'd early on CD15, which accounts for the slight temp rise the day before.

Belle, I agree with FF, and think it happened early on CD17, for the same reasons mentioned above.

gymwidow, I am so glad to hear you're feeling better! Good luck with the u/s tomorrow!

amurphy, I'm glad to hear you're feeling good about your friend's pg. That's hard to deal with when it first happens.

And it happens again... I'd love to write more but work is calling (damnit!).

[crazycaro]

Thanks Liz! I am so excited. :)

[UTChick]

Oh, I am behind again!

I keep changing this morning's temp back and forth from the actual to the adjusted. I can't decide where I want to keep it. The adjusted might give me false hope, but the actual is so depressing! Just add me to the list of crazy 2ww dwellers! :rolleyes:

[ABirney]

Ok both Ovusoft and FF gave me an O date of CD21, but I think CD23 coincides better with my CM and CP... what do you guys think?
FF:
http://ttc.fertilityfriend.com/ttc/index.php
Ovusoft:
http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrsabirney
TIA!

[polkadot]

hi ladies...jsut wanted you all to know that you can delete me from the thread...we are in a complete devistation over here and it is not a place or time to bring a baby into this world and as much as it pains me to say...we may not EVER be able to afford a child. Our beloved city is drowing and most homes are destroyed....there will be no economic growth for a while....i will try to keep up with all of you and maybe cheer some of you on...i will try to think positive....

and ps: all of the thigns you are see are real...and quite worse in person...but please remember that the population you see looting and shooting and stealing are not the majority of our cities pop. we are good hearted loving community that will come out of this...we promise...please pray for us...adn do any thing you can..thanks ladies...

[jjsanner]

polkadot....thanks for checking in! I am sure I speak for everyone here when I say that we wish you absolutely the best. My heart and prayers go out to all of you down on the Gulf Coast. Please let us know if there is anything we can do. The TV footage, I simply cannot believe my eyes. It is too horrible for words.

[crazycaro]

Polkadot, the news is over here and it pains me, brings me to tears to see all the devastation, and then I think about the massive impact on lives with no homes, jobs etc - it just seems like it can't all be rebuilt because of how huge the damage is.

I hope you guys are doing okay and managing as best as you can.

I hope you still get your dream of a baby one day, in a different time when things are healed and rebuilt.

Thinking of you.

[Ericka_Jarett]

So sorry to see you go PolkaDot. I wish you the best with everything down there and that things can improve quickly for all that live in the Gulf area. Will be praying for you and the whole area.

[ds2003]

Polkadot - I am praying for you and all the families affected.

[Wrighty26]

Once again- I slack off for a day and this thread is crazy!

Congrats Caro!!!

I have my 2nd ultrasound today. I'm REALLY hoping everything is "looking good" :) I will say that my CM and CP have definitely changed over the past couple of days-- so at the very least, my body is gearing up to O! I'm sure I'll be back later to check in :D

Polkadot Our thought and prayers are with you, your families, and your friends. This whole thing is amazingly sad and frustrating...

[klav]

Polkadot Our thought and prayers are with you. I'm so sorry to see you go. I know things wil work out for you. I can't belive my eyes and all the devistation in the gulf coast. My prayers are with all of you.

[Ericka_Jarett]

It's official FF is a mess :) I put in my temp for this morning and it had me as O'd on the CD 15, I am CD 18 now. I took out the CM for 3 days and it went to O not detected. Guess will still BD until CD 23, which is when I have been Oing for the last few months. I adjusted the temp on CD 15 to .3 degrees from what it was, since it was chilly that morning.

[Mystikal]

Polkadot seeing the images over there and hearing the stories just pains me and brings me to tears. I will continute to pray for everyone in NOLA and the surrounding areas.

[mkvh]

polkadot: thinking of you with tears in my eyes and prayers in my heart. What a horrible experience! Please let us all know what you and your neighbors may need.




flygirl: I too will be a guru someday (just my nature). But it's so nice to have someone check things out who KNOWS what they're doing! THANK YOU!

ABirney: As I said above, not a guru...are you hoping for a CD23 O?? ;) That would make your UDD MUCH more productive...

Wrighty: Good luck with the 2nd ultrasound. Looking forward to a good update from you!

Erika: What detection method are you using? Makes a difference. Same chart for me, 3 different O days according to FF (13, 14, 15)--one with each method! If you really think you didn't O, just keep listening to your body and BD!!! :D

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Me: Temp went up this am. Yay! 98 and an hour earlier than usual. As I said above, FF can't agree on an O date, but I'm going to listen to flygirl and gymwidow. At least we BDd on O day if it was indeed CD15... I'm very crampy--belly and lower back, had some serious nausea before breakfast (although that could be attributed to taking a vitamin on an empty stomach), and fell asleep on the couch last night 7:30-9:30, bed at 10:30, up at 6:45 (but I'm a sleeper). So while I know they all could be RPS, I'm rationalizing to keep myself sane.

Hope I got everyone! One day till Friday... Looking forward to updates from all! Off to chart stalk.

[kmmommy]

Polkadot ~ My thoughts and prayers are with all those in New Orleans and the surrounding area.

[ABirney]

polkadot My thoughts and prayers are with you and everyone in your area.
As for charting news, I don't think our risk-taking did much good. I'm either 11 or 13DPO depending on which O date I use (CD21 or CD23) with no symptoms other than slightly blood tinged internal CM on CD32. (that's too far past O for implantation spotting, isn't it?) My LP is usually 14 days. So we'll see what happens in the next couple days. Who knows, maybe some unexpected news will cheer me up! (My cat is in renal failure and not doing well... probably going to have to put her to sleep in the next couple days unless she makes some drastic improvement.... :( )

[mkvh]

ABirney: If you Od on CD 21 or 23, then 32 definitely isn't too late for implantation spotting. Implantation is said to occur anywhere from 4-12 DPO. And you're looking at 9 or 11 DPO based on those O dates! So hang in there a couple more days! Or you could be like me and test for the heck of it. Someone said somewhere that a very sensitive test should register at 48 hours post-implantation... :rolleyes: I am a horrible instigator when it comes to testing!

ETA: So IF this isn't it, are you joining our ranks for good????

[cat_loverpq]

polkadot ~ I'm so sorry that your life has been turned upside down by this tragedy. :( I think we all know that those low-lifes who are looting and trying to take advantage of the situation are not the majority of N.O.'s population. I will keep you and all others who have been affected in my prayers. Best of luck in whatever you decide to do, whether that be to re-build or re-locate. We are always here for you if you need us. Keep us posted when you can! We'll miss you!

[amurphy]

polkadot: I'm so sorry to see you leave this thread, but I'm even more sorry for the tragedy that you are facing. I'm sure that you--and the rest of New Orleans--will overcome the obstacles before you. In the meantime, we'll all be praying for you.

Sorry. No time for SOs today!

I'm 6DPO and still in the game. Yay! Although I think FF is going to move my O date forward one day to CD15 if my temp continues to rise. That's okay. We'll still have covered our bases.

[Sabriel]

ABirney Your temps are still high. Don't give up hope yet! I am so sorry to hear about your kitty. (((hugs)))

mkvh Your chart's looking good!

Wrighty26 Hope your ultrasound goes well! Yay for gearing up to O!

Polkadot I am so sorry to hear that you are going through this. I can't imagine how devistating this is for you. (((hugs))) to you too.

Boring CD 4 for me. My earliest O has been CD 15, so I think we will start BDing a few days before that.

[ellidew]

polkadot - I'll miss ya! Hang in there and i will be thinking about you. Dh and i will (tentatively still) be in new orleans in Sept and i am kind of nervous to see what one of our favorite cities looks like. We have been to new orleans 5 times in the last 7 years (only 1 week long trip and the rest of the time it was a stopping point on our way home from vacation) we have really grown to love the city and the people are GREAT! When i see women leaving a store with diapers all i can think is... they have to have them and they can't help it that there aren't enough service workers deployed to help with things. Hopefully someone gets their head out of their a** soon! :D I'll follow along with you in your journal.

I am just waiting for af to show. My temp went below coverline today and i had a little tinge of pink this morning so its just a matter of time. Just in time for a trip out of town too. yay :mad: GOOD LUCK to everyone else waiting to test! AND BABY DUST to everyone bd'ing.

[klav]

So I'm not feeling to well stuff nose... and a bit of feeling like my head is in the clouds.. my temp when back down to 98.0? I think I feel abit sick to my stomach but not sure if it's the cold or me? one day left...

[Wrighty26]

I just got back from the Drs and everything looks good ;) The Dr said that he liked what he saw-- that there's a good size follicle in the right ovary-- and that the small cyst that was in my left ovary last month has pretty much dissolved. He said I should definitely be Oing this weekend.

I am going to have my progestrone checked about a week after Oing (although he said he hoped at that point- it would be a moot point!).

mkvh - it's sounding good for you!! Keep us updated :)
ABirney - I wouldn't give up hope just yet... If you look at the chart galleries on FF there are a lot of pregnant charts with spotting day 11 :) Good luck!
amurphy - Good to hear you have your bases covered! I'm rooting for you!
Sabriel - Hopefully you won't have to wait too long... waiting sucks :(
ellidew - It's not over until the witch arrives-- don't give up yet!
klav - Hmmmm...stuffy nose is definitely a symptom for some women. When are you testing?? :)

If I missed anyone, I apologize! Geesh this thread is crazy :)

[mkvh]

Wrighty: Yay for good news...now go jump the hubby! And thanks...I can't help but update you guys. I'm totally obsessed!

klav: Ditto what Wrighty said...you're definitely not out yet!

ellidew: Sorry about the temp drop. Hang in there...

Sabriel: Why thank you! I think it's kinda ugly myself (hate the open circles!)...but if it brings what I'm looking for, it doesn't have to be pretty!

amurphy: Yay, yay, yay! We're in the 2ww together again. I PROMISE that I won't egg you on to test this time, okay?? And FF can't decide on O dates this month, so I think I'm actually 7 DPO again today. Boo!

ETA: I'm DYING for shanna to come back with an update!

[ShelbyMay]

Klav and UTChick, are you testing soon? :)


I'm a baaaaaad influence, I know! ;)

Mine is still a BFN at 15dpo. I want to be hopeful, but I keep checking for AF anyway.

Question: Do you think it's possible that I O'd on what FF says is 5dpo (CD24)? I had a lot of cramping that day and then again on what FF says is 11 & 12 dpo (CD 30 & 31).

[klav]

ShelbyMay, mkvh, Wrighty26 I will be testing after tomorrow definately..... keep your finger , toes and anything else crossed for me~~!! :D

[mkvh]

klav: They're crossed...good luck!

shelby: I think it's possible that you O'd on what's showing as 2 DPO on your chart. That puts your CL more in line with where you usually are, and it also starts your gradual rise. And as flygirl mentioned, you may see effects of the hormone change prior to actually o-ing, which could account for the spike on 1 DPO. SOOO you COULD be 13 DPO and still getting false negs... But I don't think there's any way you O'd at what is 5 DPO based on what you have in your chart.

[amurphy]

mkvh: You're becoming a regular FF expert. Thank goodness. We could use one around here! Glad to have you as a 2ww buddy. Hope it is the last 2ww for both of us until we are in the 2ww for our due dates! Oh. And I've got a theory to float by you. I was looking at my crazy cycle from last month and reading my notes. I changed some of the C days to E days b/c my notes indicated "lots of yellow-tinged CM," which could have been E and not C. When I changed that, FF moved my O date to CD31. That puts my O temps from last cycle more in line with my current O temps AND the resulting short LP explains last cycle's very light AF. So what do you think of my theory?

klav: Good luck tomorrow!

ShelbyMay: I think FF is screwing with you like it did to me last cycle. I'd get CH and three days later it would change. (See my message to mkvh for even more confusion.) In any case, I hope that your cycle ends on a positive note than mine did!

Wrighty26: Great news!!! I'm rooting for you too! Look your doors this weekend and catch that egg!

ellidew Sorry about the temp drop. But don't give up all hope until AF makes an appearance!