View Full Version : CLOMID--tell me about your experience
babylove
08-15-2005, 05:40 AM
My doctor and I recently decided that clomid is the next step in the TTC process for me. Even though I do O on my own, I have long and irregular cycles and a short luteal phase (low progesterone). I don't have PCOS or any other diagnosed issue. I have had one early m/c (most likely chromosomal and not related to the progesterone issue).
I am interested in hearing about your experiences on Clomid--did it work? after how many cycles? what dosage? Did you have side effects? twins?
TIA!
jennylou
08-15-2005, 07:36 AM
My first cycle of clomid 50 mg worked - I conceived my son. We are now ttc#2 and I'm on my second cycle of clomid 50 mg (third cycle lifetime).
I have low progesterone (and PCOS = no ovulation without clomid) and clomid has not done much to strengthen it. With my sons pregnancy, I was on progesterone suppositories. This time around, the first cycle I had a 9 day LP. Hopefully, this cycle will have a better result.
There is an 8-10% increase (over people not on any fertility drugs) in the chance of multiples on clomid. So, there is an increase, but it's not significant, nor is it guaranteed.
Best of luck to you. :)
babylove
08-15-2005, 07:46 AM
Thanks Jennylou! Can I ask you why your dr put you on Clomid (if you don't want to answer, you don't have to)? Did you have any side effects?
jennylou
08-15-2005, 08:49 AM
My doctor put me on clomid because I have PCOS and do not ovulate on my own.
The side effects I get from clomid are hot flashes, dry mouth, and bitchiness. This cycle I also seem to be very tired...not sure if it's related to the clomid or not.
HTH. :)
heidi0622
08-15-2005, 08:50 AM
I conceived on my first cycle of Clomid 50mg and my 17th month TTCing and am now 8 weeks pg. I fell into the completely unexplained category. All my hormone levels were normal, tubes were clear and DH's SA was excellent. I did have sort of long and irregular cycles though and usually ovualated between day 18 and 26. After trying for over a year, I started acupuncture. I tried acupuncture by itself for 2 months to see if that would shorten my cycle, then in the 3rd cycle of acupuncture, I finally took the plunge and decided to try the Clomid.
I ovulated on day 15 my first month taking Clomid. I think it was a combination of the acupuncture and the Clomid that helped me ovulate earlier and conceive.
I had no side effects from the Clomid. A few times I seemed a little warmer, but it also was 90 degrees at that time, so it could have been the weather as well. Other than that, I felt fine.
icedwhite
08-15-2005, 10:14 AM
hi babylove ,
i think we are in the same situation. i have very long, irregular cycles (anywhere from 34-80 days) and short LP (9-10 days). i was put on clomid to help regulate my cycles and ovulate earlier. i just finished my first round of clomid (50mg, CD5-9). the only side effect i had was a couple of headaches. i took the pills at night so that might have helped minimize the s/e. i won't know if it worked for a couple of weeks. if it works for me (**crosses fingers**), i'll let you know! good luck! babydust all around!
cgmom313
08-15-2005, 10:15 AM
I took 50mg for 3 cycles with no pg and then my ob put me on 100mg and I got PG. However with that cycle I miscarried at 12 weeks. I waited 2 months and my OB started me right out with 100mg and got PG right away, carried full term and delivered this past March.
The reason on Clomid was I had very long cycles like 50-60days. With all the tests, I did ovaluate but at different times each cycle.
Side Effects - I didnt have many with the 50mg, but when he put me on the 100mg I had very bad cotton mouth, and a little dizziness.
Good Luck!
Scooter
08-15-2005, 10:18 AM
I took clomid for 5 cycles. I always O on my own, and also had no diagnosed issues. The first I was on 50mg and my LP was only 8 days, plus I O'd late. The next two I was on 100mg with progesterone in the LP, and the last two were 100mg with IUIs (no progesterone). It didn't work for us.
Side effects: nausea, cottonmouth, hot flashes, night sweats, bloating, sore ovaries, extreme moodiness & sudden crying, anger, depression, anxiety, every pregnancy symptom in the 2ww you can think of, beautiful triphasic charts, thin lining, no CM. It also gave me cysts every other cycle, so that my cycle would be cancelled & I'd have to wait for the cyst to go down for a month before starting it again. Frustrating.
I was extremely relieved to switch to Femara (letrozole is the generic). I was put on it for the side effects and it was sooo much better, emotionally and also because I had a better lining and EWCM again! Some people like clomid, I do not. If you end up having bad symptoms like I did, I think it's good to know that Femara is very similar to Clomid, and you have the option of talking about it with your Dr. Good luck!
gmb4503
08-15-2005, 10:21 AM
I was prescribed Clomid because I have long irregular cycles. I am on 50mg and the first round did not work. I am in the 2WW for the second round and praying this is all I need!!
Side effects: a few severe headaches, thirsty all the time, dried up my CM
babylove
08-15-2005, 12:26 PM
Thank you all so much for posting about your experiences with Clomid. It has been very reassuring. I am sort of concerned about the side effects that I have read about. I see that there is an alternative to Clomid (Femara), but when I got to the website, it says it's for breast cancer treatment!
Now, does anyone know if using Clomid or Femara results in an increased risk of miscarriage b/c of the side effect of thinning the uterine lining? I have already had one m/c and I am terrified of having another!
ETA: I asked my dr about Clomid drying up CM and he said it can also have the reverse effect. That's NOT what I've read on these boards! He told me that while the medical literature does not support the use of green tea to thicken CM, it does support Robitussin. In fact, he said that the active ingredient of Robitussin can be bought in syrup form and it's called glyceryl guiacolate, in case anyone is interested.
Carissa
08-15-2005, 04:47 PM
I conceived on my 3rd cycle of clomid (2nd w/100mg) but miscarried at 10 weeks. Took a break from TTC and then went back on clomid for low progesterone and conceived on my first cycle back on. I have PCOS as well. I didn't have many side effects. Headache and tiredness that was about it nothing to bad. It didn't decrease my CM either which I was surprised with. Goodluck with it!
babylove
08-16-2005, 03:57 AM
Thanks, Carissa. I am so happy that it worked for you, but so sorry to hear that you had a m/c...
Does Clomid = higher risk of m/c??? It seems like almost everyone has had a m/c on clomid!
jennylou
08-16-2005, 04:30 AM
I don't think there is an increased risk of miscarriage with clomid. I carried my baby to a healthy term baby. Please remember that the stat I've heard lately is one in four pregnancies will result in a miscarriage. Also, they say most women will lose at least one baby/pregnancy. Not that the stats make it any easier, but they are there. Also, some here have said that they have PCOS. PCOS ladies have a higher chance of miscarriage.
MrsSmith
08-16-2005, 06:32 AM
I hear some ladies on here saying that they started with 50mg of Clomid. Others have said 100mg. Are the side effects different for each dose? What usually makes someone require a higher dosage?
I've never taken it before, but my dr. prescribed 100mg.
angelgirl8
08-16-2005, 07:45 AM
my doctor started me on 100mg of clomid. i took it for 3 cycles, and did not get pregnant.
there's no specific reason why i was on the clomid, it was just the first step for us. i was ovulating normally, with no other apparent problems.
side effects: hot flashes (oh, the hot flashes!), minor headaches, moodiness (although dh would call it something else). those were the big effects for me.
good luck!
ds2003
08-16-2005, 09:51 AM
I have PCOS and took 3 rounds of Clomid (50, 100 and 150 mg). It didn’t work for me. I had surgery done in May and have successfully ovulated for two cycles since then . I have been ovulating late in the cycle (CD32 and then CD22), so this cycle I am taking Femara. My LP has been fine. So far it has been 15 days each cycle.
Scooter
08-16-2005, 10:50 AM
Babylove, Since miscarriages in general are common (about a 1/3 of pregnancies), of course some of the clomid pregnancies will end in miscarriage. Clomid does not increase your risk. Your Dr should monitor you on the clomid, and when you first start taking it you should get a baseline (cd3) u/s to make sure you have no cysts, and then a follicle check u/s (cd10-12) to make sure the follicles are progressing, see how many there are, and measure your lining. Clomid usually makes it thin, but not rarely thin enough to cancel the cycle. Femara doesn't thin it near as much, so no worry there. As far as I know, if the lining is too thin, it would just make implantation too difficult, so you wouldn't even know about a miscarriage.
ETA: I forgot to add, the Dr said Robitussin thickens CM?! That ingredient is a mucous thinner, so that's exactly backwards. Green tea (like grapefruit juice) is just supposed to help produce more CM, it's not supposed to thicken or thin it.
Dosages: your Dr could start you at 25, 50, 75, or 100mg. I've seen women here start on each of those. I began on a low dosage, 50mg, because I was already regularly ovulating. The problem was, even on 50mg from cd3-7, I had short LP and did not O until cd21. They like you to O between 5-9 days after your last pill of clomid, so I should have O'd between cd12 and cd16. Oing late was a sign of a weak O. That's a common reason for needing an increased dosage. Another reason is if you don't O at all on it, they'll try a higher dosage. HTH.
babylove
08-16-2005, 01:00 PM
Thank you all so much for this great info! I knew I could count on you :)
Scooter-- Sorry, I misspoke--my dr said that Robitussin causes you to produce more fertile quality CM (as in, it would be a good thing to try if the clomid dries me up). Thanks for pointing that out, I wouldn't want to mislead anyone else out here looking for info.
excitedbride
08-21-2005, 09:42 PM
I was on Clomid when I conceived my DS. He is now 15months.:D I took it as I was just off of BCPs, and my cycles were really messed up. After having my son and charting, I am finding that my LP is short. I took B6 and got pg, but m/c at 10 1/2 weeks. So I am not back on clomid and waiting to O right now.
babylove
09-08-2005, 04:44 AM
Since you ladies were such a great resource for me, I have another question!
I am starting clomid this morning and I know that one side effect is that it could dry up CM. My dr suggested Robitussin--when should I start taking the Robitussin and how often? How long should I take it for? TIA!
I don't remember what TCOYF said about Robitussin, but I just wanted to chime in on the "what dosage of Clomid" question.
My RE started me out on 100mg of Clomid. At the time, I posted on the WC, asking whether that was weird or not, because everyone else seemed to start at 50mg (and I *was* ovulating on my own, like clockwork). I got a ton of responses saying "my doc prescribed 100mg to start, too," so I think it's just a matter of each doctor's personal preference, no matter what your diagnosis is.
BTW, I did four rounds of Clomid + trigger shot: all BFN. I didn't experience anywhere near the amount of side effects that some women experience, but I did have occasional "warm surges" (I wouldn't even call it a hot flash....later, when I did IVF, I learned what a "hot flash" really is LOL).
I also gained weight -- probably about 20 lbs over four cycles.
Good luck!
JennZ
05-04-2007, 10:40 AM
Just bumping up this thread to see if anyone else has any experiences to share!!
Thanks!
MaineBelle
05-04-2007, 11:17 AM
I took 2 rounds of Clomid and conceived on my second cycle, EDD 11/07.
I was on Clomid because I had irregular cycles and would ovulate late CD 22-26.
I was put on 50 mg Clomid on Days 5-9. I read that usually O takes place 5-10 days after the last pill. This wasn't the case for me (and I still got PG). I O'd on CD20 of my first cycle (BFN) and CD21 of my 2nd cycle (BFP). I didn't experience any side effects from the 50 mg. Maybe some moodiness, but with the whole TTC process, that can be expected anyway.
It did not decrease my EWCM. I don't know if you are using the CBEFM, but when I was on Clomid it gave me false high and peak readings. Luckily, I was also using OPKs, so I was able to figure this out.
During my U/S for my PG they found ovarian cysts, but they are gradually shrinking.
honeygirl
05-04-2007, 11:48 AM
I took 3 cycles of Clomid and did not conceive.
I did 50mg on days 5-9. I was given Clomid by my RE b/c of a "weak ovulation" (late O and post O spotting). The first cycle of Clomid I produced at least 2+ eggs (per my high progesterone levels) and could feel ovulation for the first time! I had a early O for the first time (cd14) and no spotting.
The second cycle I didn't feel anything but Ovulated early and didn't have any spotting.
The third cycle I ovulated on my normal late time (in the cd 20's) and had some post O spotting.
After 3 unsucessful cycles the RE made us take a break and do more testing (HSG and repeat S/A). He said that too many Clomid cycles in a row isn't recommeded b/c the drug stays in your system and builds up.
We were going to move on to IUI w/higher Clomid doses, but due to the test results (my DH's morphology) the RE recommended IVF instead. We got pregnant that same cycle that we were taking off (unmedicated) by some miracle.
dancn226
05-23-2007, 10:06 AM
Bump, Please More Please...i Start Taking Clomid Today 50mg, And Am Just Carious How Long It Took For You To Get Pg? :)
DelSol
05-24-2007, 07:40 AM
I most likely will be starting Clomid next cycle for a short LP (although B6 seemed to help with this cycle), does anyone know if it messes with your O date? I've been pretty consistent lately and I hope it doesn't mess it up. DH will be out of town, most likely right after O so I was wondering if the Clomid would prolong my O and hence we'd miss our opportunity to BD with him being out of town.
TIA!
junkinmytrunk
05-24-2007, 08:02 AM
I did 6 rounds of Clomid -- 3 with one doc, we took a break, and three more with a new doc. Last 3 times an HCG trigger was used.
Of those, I got PG 1 time, and miscarried at about 7/8 weeks. I was one of those who got giant cysts from Clomid.
Ended up getting PG on a break before moving to IUI/IVF.
strawberry4
05-24-2007, 08:49 AM
I took a 25 mg (1/2 pill every day). I did two rounds of clomid and was pregnant on the second month of clomid. I used a fertility monitor that helped a bunch! My little clomid baby is now 17 months. Good luck!
BryantRN
05-24-2007, 09:20 AM
I only needed two rounds of Clomid. We had been trying for about 8 months when we finally decided to get help. I had been on birth control for 11 years and my body didn't know what to do with itself after stopping the BC. The first dose of 50mg gave me cysts and they put me back on BCP for a month to shrink them. The next round of Clomid was 100mg and I never got a positive ovulation test, but ended up getting a very surprising BFP instead. I also did accupuncture for 2 months with Chinese herbs and I think it made the difference. I had triplets, but thankfully only one baby continued to grow. I am currently 10 weeks pregnant:). I wish everyone tons of luck, there is a light at the end of tunnel!
Delsol~
Clomid does tend to push out your O date. I think they figured out that I O'ed around day 20 or 21, really late!!!
katiems118
05-24-2007, 09:34 AM
Clomid made my O date change from 20-26 to CD 14. I took 3 rounds of 50mg, and no luck. Hope it works for you.
my experience with clomid was not pleasant at all. i really don't like that some ob's prescribe it with very little testing and monitoring. my ob fell into that camp. he did nothing to see if i was o'ing on my own. i just told him i wasn't sure since i never got a positive with predictor kits or temps, but it was later found out by a specialist that i do ovulate on my own with regularity. he could figure this out by my history and by ultrasounds. in addition, my ob didn't take my past medical history into account when prescribing me clomid. if he had carefully looked at my past history, he would have seen that i had a significant predictor infertility caused by ruptured appendix. i had no idea that ruptured appendix caused this or i would have spoken up about this when we first started ttc. this caused pelvic scarring which clomid will not help bc clomid does not help when you have problems with your tubes.
so anyways, i was on clomid for 3 cycles completely unmonitored. by the third cycle, i had such abdominal pains that i couldn't get out of bed and was throwing up. my dr. didn't even act concerned about it, but i insisted on an appt. he checked me and discovered i had to largish cysts. his advice - take off a month and then start back on clomid. i wasn't happy with that advice at all, and at that point i decided to see a fertility specialist. that specialist said clomid wouldn't help me at all.
anyways, i think clomid has helped some women get pregnant, but it is not the cure all drug that it often touted as being. i think careful consideration for a women's diagnoses and history need to be taken, and monitoring should be done every month.
AliMC
05-24-2007, 10:38 AM
I am on my fourth round of 50mgs with trigger shots and IUI. I got pregnant on the second cycle but miscarried at 8 weeks. This morning I had the first of two IUI of my second cycle since the pregnancy. I'll have a second tomorrow.
I have PCOS, but I ovulated regularly on my own - just sometimes really late. So the 50mgs just 'gooses' the whole process and matures my follies earlier.
beetle
06-14-2007, 02:13 PM
I have very irregular cycles and rarely ovulate on my own. My doctor started me on 50 mg Clomid, and I ovulated very late (CD28). He bumped me up to 100 mg the next cycle, and I O'd on CD18. The following month I O'd on CD19. This current cycle was completely anovulatory, and I'm having to take Provera to end it. We're going to try the 100 mg again this next cycle to see if it works, and if not, he'll probably up the dosage again.
I get terrible hot flashes and some dizziness with the Clomid, but nothing else too bad. It does seem to lengthen my LP, which really messes with your head during the 2ww!
May27JnJ
06-15-2007, 05:12 AM
I took Clomid (50mg) for one month and my GYN said that it seems I'm developing a cyst on my right ovary. But that was it. Nothing more was said. She gave me another script for it. Should I be worried?
may - from what i know she should have given you month off to see if the cyst goes away on its own.
May27JnJ
06-15-2007, 05:58 AM
Well I'm not taking it this month b/c I saw her too late to start another round.
Scooter
06-16-2007, 08:49 AM
It also depends on the size of the cyst. You'll have a baseline cd 3 u/s before starting the clomid next cycle (right?), which is done mainly to check for cysts before allowing you to take the meds.
It's normal for fertility meds to cause cysts. Clomid causes cysts in 1 in 4 cycles, statistically. Some women are more prone to them and get them more frequently (I'd never had them before, but with the meds had them every other cycle, so it really slows down the treatment process).
May27JnJ
07-03-2007, 09:29 AM
I've been having some sharp pains in my lower abdomen and my lower back. AF hasn't come so I called my dr to see what she thought was going on. They're pretty sure it's a cyst. How long will they keep you on Clomid before you can move onto the next thing?
Scooter
07-03-2007, 09:34 AM
Depends on your RE, your diagnosis, and how you responded to the clomid. If you're not happy with it and want to move on, I'd suggest discussing it with your RE and planning out the next steps. You might be able to try femara first, but I have to warn you, you're twice as likely to get cysts with injectables than with clomid.
May27JnJ
07-03-2007, 09:39 AM
I still see my GYN. Would you recommend that I see an RE? They said I'm "border line PCOS".
Scooter
07-03-2007, 10:20 AM
Absolutely! PCOS is actually an endocrine issue, and RE stands for Reproductive Endocrinologist--basically exactly what you need. Ob/gyns really don't know about any of this stuff in as much detail as REs, although sometimes they like to treat patients as if they do know. :rolleyes:
You can look through threads here, but a lot of people have regretted letting their ob/gyn treat them for awhile instead of just going straight to an RE, and I've never heard of anyone regret going to an RE. Some of them have long waiting lists, so I'd call asap to get the referral and an appt scheduled.
May27JnJ
07-03-2007, 10:22 AM
Thanks Scooter!! So do I need to get a referral from my GYN? Or my insurance company?
Scooter
07-03-2007, 11:01 AM
Depends on your insurance and if IF is covered for you. If it's not, you may just be able to find an RE on your own and call them. If it is, you'll probably have to go through your ob/gyn, because you'll need the official "infertility" diagnosis to get your RE visit covered and the referral approved by insurance.
dancn226
07-23-2007, 09:55 AM
I just got off the phone with the nurse at my dr. office. Anyhow, my progestrone was at 0 the first I tested before clomid. Last month I was on 50mg. My progestrone was only at 6, dr. said I didn't O. This month went up to 100mg, called said again I didn't O, my dr. said she will only go up to 150mg. So at what point did it work for you. I am starting to give up hope on the clomid!
jennylou
07-23-2007, 12:22 PM
Hi dancn22!
I did O on 50 mg of clomid, in fact, I conceived my DS on that dose. However, when the nurse from the REs office called to tell me what my progesterone was she said to call on CD1. It was only 5.6 (or was it 5.4, or 5.9 - can't remember now!) and she said that any positive number is indicative of an O, but that mine was very weak.
They look for anything over 10 on a non-medicated cycle and anything over 15 on a medicated cycle typically. Anyways, I did conceive my DS on 50 mg, so that's what we started with when we started ttc my DD. I ended up going up to 100 mg after 2 cycles, since it wasn't producing a strong enough O.
What was your progesterone this cycle on clomid 100 mg?
Are you working with an OB or an RE? Are you having any other monitoring done? Perhaps you should ask about some u/s work to be done. They can monitor you that way and see if you're producing follicles.
jennylou
07-23-2007, 12:24 PM
Thanks Scooter!! So do I need to get a referral from my GYN? Or my insurance company?
It depends upon your insurance. I ended up bypassing the OB I was working with at the time and going on to an RE. The visit was covered by the insurance, along with any testing. They did not cover any meds or any fertility treatments (IUI, IVF), but paid for diagnostic testing (u/s and bloodwork) because of my PCOS diagnosis.
Each insurance company is different.
dancn226
07-23-2007, 12:41 PM
Jennylou~Thanks for your response. I am so damn confused, its not even funny. THe dr's nurse told me that when i had all the infertility testing done, my progestrone then unmedicated was 0, wiht 50mg it was 6 and now with 100mg it was only 8. To me it just doesn't seem like its doing much at all.
I am working with my ob, she said we would try the clomid, and if that didn't work she would send me to RE. So here is hoping that somethig willhappen soon so i don't have to go that far. Anyhow, the only thing she is doing is doing a blood test CD 20 to see where my progestrone is! Ahh, this whole hting is so frustrating!!!
jennylou
07-23-2007, 12:50 PM
Well, no wonder why you're confused!
First, your progesterone test should not be done at CD20! The test is supposed to be at 7dpo (days past ovulation). Are you charting? Using OPKs? You should definitely be charting. If you aren't, it's totally worth the small investment of the BBT (basal body temperature) thermometer. You can also use OPKs in conjuction with charting. You can find cheap OPKs on websites like www.saveontests.com - I ordered 50 dip sticks for super cheap there.
Once you know whether you've ovulated - you would then call for your blood draw appointment.
I've never heard of a CD20 blood draw for progesterone. Some Dr's do test on CD21 - but that's because of the assumption that every woman ovulates on CD14, and thus, CD 21 would be 7dpo.
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Okay, time out, I just followed your chart link. Did you not chart for your 6/23 cycle? As for the other cycle from May, you ovulated - but not until CD19, so if you had your progesterone tested on CD20 and it was low - there's totally a reason why! Your body just hadn't produced enough progesterone yet. If it would have been tested on CD26, you would have seen a completely different number, I'm sure.
dancn226
07-23-2007, 02:53 PM
JennyLou~Wow, you are being SOOO amazingly helpful. Yes, I didn't chart thsi month. I am acutally laid off rigth now, so it was very hard to get up at the normal 7am time since I didn't hve a reason. So, yes, this month was a total up in the air.
See, its so good to here these things from other people. My dr. never said anything about waiting until 7dpo. She just said to come in on cd 20 to get a blood test. She said she wants me oing sooner. She thinks I o to late, and thus the reason things haven't happened yet.
I do chart, but like I said, it was just so hard this month with not having a regular schedule. I was goign to wiat until AF showed, and start again with a later time like 8am. Anyhow, I have been doing opk's in the previous months, but with being laid off right now, its hard to come up wtih the extra cash for them right now. I hope all of thsi makes sense.
So you think its just an error on me adn when i get my blood drawn correct. I really hope you are right, thank you for all your help!!!!
suzfuzsunflower
07-24-2007, 07:04 AM
I agree with Jennylou that your progesterone number's and chart indicate that you did ovulate. I tried 50 mg, 100 mg, and 150 mg of clomid and did not ovulate (also injectible drugs and didn't ovulate either) - my progesterone was always under 1 (at least I think that's how I remember it).
You mentioned that your ob wants you to ovulate earlier, and thinks that is why things haven't happened - I don't know that "late" ovulation is necessarily a reason why a pregnancy doesn't occur, but I guess it can give you less chances of becoming pregnant in a year b/c there are less cycles. I had a "late" ovulation on the cycle that I became pregnant, and I know of someone on the board who had a pregnancy at an ovulation day of 100 or something later.
beetle
07-24-2007, 11:22 AM
Has anyone else experienced a much longer luteal phase on Clomid? The few times I O'd on my own, my LP was about 13 days. On 100 mg of Clomid, it's now 16 or 17 days long.
Scooter
07-24-2007, 11:40 AM
Dancn226, I saw you started a thread on low progeterone and clomid (http://www.constantchatter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32898) a while back. Just wantd to link it for you because I'm not sure if you saw some of the responses there. :)
Beetle, that is probably because it is causing a "stronger O" than you have on your own, which means it's also increasing the amount of progesterone you're producing. So that's a good thing! The only part that sucks is having to wait longer for AF once you know the cycle didn't work. :(
pocahontas
07-24-2007, 06:40 PM
Has anyone else experience a much longer luteal phase on Clomid? The few times I O'd on my own, my LP was about 13 days. On 100 mg of Clomid, it's now 16 or 17 days long.Yep...mine went from 14 days to about 16 or 17 days which (as Scooter mentioned) is the crappiest part of it all because none of my Clomid cycles worked. So it did nothing but serve to get my hopes up. :rolleyes:
beetle
07-25-2007, 06:44 AM
Beetle, that is probably because it is causing a "stronger O" than you have on your own, which means it's also increasing the amount of progesterone you're producing. So that's a good thing! The only part that sucks is having to wait longer for AF once you know the cycle didn't work.
That makes perfect sense! Not sure why I didn't think of that before. Seems like higher progesterone levels could also explain the ridiculous number of FPS?
Yep...mine went from 14 days to about 16 or 17 days which (as Scooter mentioned) is the crappiest part of it all because none of my Clomid cycles worked. So it did nothing but serve to get my hopes up.
Yes!! It really sucks to have such a long LP on unsuccessful cycles. I guess I should just be grateful that I'm O-ing.
Scooter
07-25-2007, 09:18 AM
That makes perfect sense! Not sure why I didn't think of that before. Seems like higher progesterone levels could also explain the ridiculous number of FPS?Absolutely! Clomid is notorious for giving FPS. And for making your chart look fabulous, triphasic and all. That's why it's so important when you're on fertility meds to not put much stock in symptoms and temperatures--just HPTs and betas. ;)
KrissyCat7
07-25-2007, 09:28 AM
I have had a few strange symptoms this cycle and I wondered if they are normal with Clomid.
First, Ive had a ton of CM which I never really have. Can Clomid affect that?
Secondly, Ive had hot flashes like crazy the past two days, but I stopped the Clomid a couple of days ago...could it be a delayed side effect?
jennylou
07-25-2007, 09:31 AM
CM on clomid - it always dried me up, but it's messing with your hormones, so it could probably go the other way too.
hot flashes - I had hot flashes days and days after stopping the clomid.
Scooter
07-25-2007, 09:49 AM
That's funny, usually it dries up CM like Jennylou said. Be thankful it's having that effect for you, because it helps improve your chances! Hot flashes happened all cycle for me--the nightsweats were so annoying!
Fertility medications are different than regular ones because the side effects can happen days and weeks after you stop taking them. I had one set of symptoms while on clomid (thats's when the insomnia was the worst), a couple days later the nausea would set in, then I'd have a whole bunch of weird ovulation symptoms, and then it got really bad in the 2ww--not just FPS but also out-of-control anxiety.
I would recommend jotting down any symptoms and their severity and the cycle day, just in case you have to do future clomid cycles. Clomid also builds up in your system each month so the symptoms tend to get worse each time you take it. It's nice to have a record so you know what's going on, and if the symptoms bother you, you can discuss it with your RE easier.
Blossom
07-26-2007, 08:51 AM
I'm currently on Cycle 2 of taking Clomid. This cycle I took 100 mg and last month it was 50mg. I'm currently on CD 22 and I think this cycle is a bust as I never got a +OPK result although the past 2-3 days I've gotten some sharp abdominal pangs. Could this be O pains?
Also, the past couple of weeks I have had the WORST case of insomnia.:( Is this a common side effect of Clomid? I mean, even when I'm exhausted I just CANNOT sleep sometimes and I'm wondering if it's Clomid. :confused:
Scooter
07-26-2007, 09:03 AM
Blossom, yeah, insomnia is a common one. I mentioned it in the post right above yours, actually. ;) That post mighgt be helpful to you about tracking symptoms & stuff.
Oh--and as you increase the dosage it does increase the severity of side effects.
allison
07-26-2007, 05:40 PM
I'm currently on Cycle 2 of taking Clomid. This cycle I took 100 mg and last month it was 50mg. I'm currently on CD 22 and I think this cycle is a bust as I never got a +OPK result although the past 2-3 days I've gotten some sharp abdominal pangs. Could this be O pains?
We must have the same cycle because I could have written your post word for word. I started my first cycle with 75mg and this one 100mg. No +OPK and severe cramping/pulling/pressure feeling with nausea for the past 5 days. I don't seem to have trouble sleeping though, which is a blessing since I normally do suffer from insomnia. Oh and the hot flashes....UGH!!!!
beetle
07-27-2007, 09:30 AM
Another question here: How long do doctors usually continue the Clomid treatment before moving on to the next step? What typically is the next step?
Just finished my fifth round of Clomid (third ovulatory cycle), and still no conception. I have my next dr.'s appointment on Monday, but am wondering what the typical process would be from here.
Scooter
07-27-2007, 10:06 AM
Another question here: How long do doctors usually continue the Clomid treatment before moving on to the next step? What typically is the next step?
Clomid shouldn't be taken more than 5 or 6 times, really. Otherwise it can increase your risk of ovarian cancer. As to the next step, that depends on your diagnosis and also your response to clomid.
Check out this thread:
What happens next after Clomid doesn't work? (http://www.constantchatter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25281)
It's in the sticky thread at the top of the forum, which is worth a browse.
jennylou
07-27-2007, 10:09 AM
Clomid shouldn't be taken more than 5 or 6 times, really. Otherwise it can increase your risk of ovarian cancer. As to the next step, that depends on your diagnosis and also your response to clomid.
Check out this thread:
What happens next after Clomid doesn't work? (http://www.constantchatter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25281)
It's in the sticky thread at the top of the forum, which is worth a browse.
Scooter - some information I've read out there about clomid increasing ovarian cancer was that the same women who are using it are usually at an increased risk anyways (lack of periods, hormone levels off, etc).
That said - I would probably at least take a break from clomid at some point and not just take it for say a year plus at a time (and I know someone who has).
Scooter
07-27-2007, 10:27 AM
Jenny, Yeah, I've heard that. And it makes sense. But I'm still not altogether convinced, you know? I think most doctors tend to play it with caution since it's still not definite what the tie-in is. Since I took clomid for 5 cycles I'm sure hoping for good news on that front, personally!
That said - I would probably at least take a break from clomid at some point and not just take it for say a year plus at a time (and I know someone who has).Let me guess, were they being seen by an OB/GYN instead of an RE? ;) :p
jennylou
07-27-2007, 10:28 AM
Why, of course. ;)
Not that I should talk, my second ttc adventure I stayed with the OB instead of going to an RE. My reasoning was that the RE only did bloodwork to check progesterone at the end of the cycle, so I could nag my way into more monitoring than at the REs office. The person I know who took over a year of clomid doesn't really research anything - if the OB says it's good, it's good. So, she wouldn't have known to ask for bloodwork or more u/s. I will say that this OB is good about the u/s - probably b/c they have a machine in their office?
beetle
07-27-2007, 10:30 AM
Thanks, ladies. Sorry about missing that "after Clomid" thread - I did browse the sticky thread at one point but forgot about it. Some good info there.
Blossom
07-27-2007, 01:43 PM
Thanks for the feedback. Now DH knows I'm not nuts when I'm watching TV shows at 3am from insomnia!:p
Also, after getting the abdominal pains yesterday, I decided to take another OPK test when I got home and got a positive result on CD22! I had already used up a 7-day supply box and opened a new box just in case. I retested this morning and get another +OPK. Crossing my fingers that this is a viable cycle after all.
Another question here: How long do doctors usually continue the Clomid treatment before moving on to the next step? What typically is the next step?
My OB gave me a Rx for 3 cycles of Clomid, going progessively higher in dosage. However, I plan on consulting an RE asap. I'm so scared to call for some silly reason.:o
jennylou
07-27-2007, 01:54 PM
blossom - it is not uncommon to ovulate that late on clomid.
Scooter
07-27-2007, 03:10 PM
blossom - it is not uncommon to ovulate that late on clomid.
Yeah, two threads on that if you want to look through them:
Clomid and O (http://www.constantchatter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3243)
Poll: How long after round of Clomid did you O? (http://www.constantchatter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29810)
pocahontas
07-27-2007, 08:29 PM
However, I plan on consulting an RE asap. I'm so scared to call for some silly reason.:oPlease don't be...RE's eat, sleep and breathe this stuff and often have better monitoring and suggestions that may work out more positively than an OB. My OB didn't even wanna deal with IF issues and sent me right on to an RE because she felt that was more in her league. So be sure to make an appt...if for no other reason than a great second opinion!
Pookie
08-02-2007, 11:05 PM
Does anyone know if Clomid can cause false BFP? I had one today with a digital test.:rolleyes:
Scooter
08-02-2007, 11:55 PM
Hey Pookie! I just wrote this to you in Tough 2nd, let me just crosspost it:
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No, clomid can't cause a false BFP. As I understand it, clomid stimulates/tricks the body into producing more FSH and LH, which produces more and better follicles. It has nothing to do with hCG. The only thing I can think of is the faulty test picked up the traces of LH in your system and misinterpreted them as hCG (because they're chemically similar, which is why OPKs can work as pregnancy tests). But I'm no doctor so that's just a guess!
AliMC
08-06-2007, 01:51 PM
Blossom - call an RE! I was nervous too, but why be on the drugs if you aren't going to be monitored and actually get something out of the cycle? frankly, I think it's irresponsible of a doctor to just hand out a clomid prescription and send you on your merry way. Not only s the likelihood of success more limited, but there are side effects that need to be monitored.
Sorry, let me climb off my soap box.
I did five rounds of clomid - with monitoring ultrasounds and trigger shots - under the care of an RE. I got pregnant on cycle 2 but miscarried, and then pregnant again on cycle five! I'm almost nine weeks now. Clomid can be very successful, but I really think it is important to have the best medical supervision you can, as well.
Pookie
08-06-2007, 02:11 PM
Hi Ladies,
I'm still in the process of deciding whether to do Clomid or not this month. I have a consult with the RE in early October, bu they said I'd likely get in before that. My OB gave me a script for 6 months of Clomid (She only monitors the first cycle.) I have a call into her nurse to see if I can schedule and u/s for that, but if she wouldn't, what do you guys think? On one hand, I'd love to be pg before having to go the RE, but on the other hand I know it's really important to be monitored. FWIW, I had a m/c on my 2nd Clomid cycle while TTC DS and then he was conceived on my HSG with the RE. I'm feeling so impatient this time since it took 19 months last time, but I feel like things will (hopefully) progress fast with the RE, especially since I may only have to wait another month or so to get into see him. What do you guys think?
Blossom
08-07-2007, 09:07 AM
I have an appt to see an RE in two weeks! Thanks all for the extra nudge to make an appt.;) Of course the moment I hung up the phone, I asked myself, WTF didn't I make an appt. sooner?!:rolleyes:
I am also in the 2ww, and I'm trying not to POAS yet.
AliMc, your point really hit home about additional monitoring & treatments combined w/Clomid. After researching REs, I found a highly regarded one that is convenient to work & home and I'm now actually looking forward to seeing a specialist to help me get a BFP ASAP.
AliMC
08-07-2007, 10:40 AM
Blossom - I am glad that you are going to see an RE. It was a big scary step for us, but once we did it I felt so much more proactive.
After I wrote that post yesterday, I was worried that I was being too preachy, I just know how frustrating it is to get your hopes up each month and then have them dashed when the cycle is a bust - especially if there are crazy-making drugs involved.
Pookie - I would only do the cycle with clomid if it were monitored. If your OB will monitor this first one, why not take the next one off, before you see the RE. I'm pretty sure that clomid stays in your system, so it would probably 'goose' the unmedicated cycle as well.
That said, I'm a wildly impatient person and would have a really hard time taking a cycle off.
Pookie
08-07-2007, 11:38 PM
To sound totally undecisive I took the first dose of Clomid today, but after doing more research I'm really not comfortable not being monitored. Is it worse not to finish a cycle?
AliMC
08-09-2007, 10:46 AM
Pookie - I'm sorry, I really don't know what the effects of not finishing a cycle are. but I wish you luck!
May27JnJ
08-13-2007, 08:08 AM
Ew. I took my first pill of Clomid last night and today I feel like I could throw up any minute! Did anyone else have this SE???
Standrea
08-13-2007, 08:48 AM
I started another round of Clomid this cycle, and finished taking the pills last wed. Friday I went in for an ultrasound, and the woman told me that I had tons of beautiful follicles. then my doctors office called back to say that I had a cyst on each ovary, and I have to go back in tommorrow for an additional ultrasound. I hope they haven't grown! (but I would love for the follicles to get a little bigger!)
May27JnJ-I felt nauseaus the first time around, but the main SE I have had on clomid is mood swings. I'm a raging B!tch on the stuff!
Hi Ladies-
I'm going to add on to Standrea's question... What is the difference between a follicle & a cyst? I have PCOS and I thought that when the follicles didn't burst through during a cycle, that you were left with a cyst. So is it possible to have both at the same time? How? And what is the danger in the cysts? When I was diagnosed with PCOS - they saw bunches of them & acted like it was not a big deal. Are there different types of cysts going on here??
I'm on my first cycle of Clomid now (4th month of Metformin). I'll keep you posted on how it goes. Hope I can contribute more soon - more than questions anyway! I wish I were having a post-clomid u/s. Guess it's time to get in with the RE!
Thanks!
~B :)
21daisygurl
08-14-2007, 05:43 AM
Ew. I took my first pill of Clomid last night and today I feel like I could throw up any minute! Did anyone else have this SE???
Sorry, I didn't have this s/e. I hope you feel better!
21daisygurl
08-14-2007, 05:46 AM
Hmmm...I don't know how follicles become cysts. I mean, in a normal non-medicated woman, a lot of follicles begin to develop as well, and those that dont' get ovulated just disintigrate. So I don't know if that happens/doesn't happen in the Clomid taking woman.
I do know you can ouvlate, get pregnant adn then find out you have a cyst. The problem with cysts is they produce estrogen though, so if you are still TTC you have to wait until the cyst is gone.
Sorry, that is all I know about them!
Scooter
08-14-2007, 12:07 PM
Hi Ladies-
I'm going to add on to Standrea's question... What is the difference between a follicle & a cyst?
Well, the answer might not help at first ;) because IIRC a follicle IS a cyst! Technically. A cyst is basically just a fluid filled sac, and that's what a follicle is. It grows on your ovary around the egg and the egg matures to the point where the body triggers the follicle to burst. I'm sure if BTB were around here she'd explain it better and more precisely.
I thought that when the follicles didn't burst through during a cycle, that you were left with a cyst. Well there is more than one type of cyst. That's one possibility. Another one that I know of is a corpus luteum cyst, where you do ovulate and then the corpus luteum (basically the follicle that just burst) can become a cyst. There are others, too, those are just examples. That's why seeing a cyst on a cd3 ultrasound does NOT mean you didn't ovulate the cycle before.
So is it possible to have both at the same time? How? You can have a cyst left over from the previous cycle, and then it's possible to have follicles develop on the current cycle anyway.
And what is the danger in the cysts?If they're smaller, the dangers are minimal. When they're larger, they can actually produce hormones themselves. It can mess up your cycle, cause long anovulatory cycles, delay ovulation, interfere with the effectiveness of the clomid, etc. They can also react to the clomid and get larger. When they're larger, they are painful. They can burst, which is very painful and can possibly cause damage to surrounding areas (think ovary, tubes...). Plus, you have to remember they're attached to your small delicate ovary. It's possible for them to be bumped or twisted around during a lot of movement or exercise, which can cause your ovary itself to be twisted and lose blood flow. It's very possible to lose an ovary in a situation like that. It's one of the reasons it's good to know whether you have a cyst, so your RE can watch it shrink (or else take action to make it shrink) and so you know to be very careful with your activity level in the meantime.
When I was diagnosed with PCOS - they saw bunches of them & acted like it was not a big deal. Are there different types of cysts going on here?? There are different types of cysts. And if follicles are just sitting there, not developing, I think a doctor is going to refer to them as "cysts" instead of "follicles." That's why it's called PCOS instead of PFOS, I believe.
Wow Scooter! That was an amazing answer!! I think I'll need to refer back to it a lot there is so much information! I made my appointment with the RE today - have to wait a month, but it's a start!
Thanks so much again for the informative reply!!
Standrea
08-16-2007, 07:03 AM
I went back and had my second ultrasound on Tuesday. This tech was at my Dr's office, not at the hospital, and seemed really annoyed that they send me back in. She said it appeared that I ovulated from my left ovary already, and most likely I will release an egg from the right side as well because there was a larger sized follicle ready to go. No cysts though.
KrissyCat7
08-22-2007, 06:22 AM
The last two months I have been on Clomid and Ive had a crazy amount of EWCM. I never really had any pre-Clomid. Do you think this means I wasn't O'ing on my own? I wasn't charting so I know there is no way to tell for sure, but that is what I'm starting to think.
Blossom
08-22-2007, 06:38 AM
^^Have you had any tests performed to see if you're ovulating or have you been using OPKs? That's the way I was able to tell that I wasn't ovulating and then my GYN prescribed Clomid.
~~
I had my first appt. with an RE yesterday. He has increased my dosage to 200mg of Clomid starting today!:eek: I have already warned DH that I may turn into a raving lunatic. I just pray that I won't suffer from insomnia again.
I will go back next week for monitoring and may have to take Ovidrel if they see I'm going to ovulate.
I am so glad I finally went!:)
Pookie
08-23-2007, 04:37 PM
Probably a dumb question here, but I keep hear people referring to a "Clomid Challenge." I did 3 rounds of Clomid while TTC my DS and have done another round this time, but I've never heard of that? TIA:)
sea74
08-23-2007, 06:37 PM
Pookie: I did two rounds of clomid with my GYN and he just said, "take clomid" but the first time I heard "clomid challenge" was when I went to the RE and he said, "we're going to give you the clomid challenge test." Never really explained it more than that, but from what I gather it's just them putting you on clomid and then blood draws and ultrasounds to make sure you're really Oing with it and how many eggs are produced from that dose.
But I could be totally off on that. Hopefully someone else will pop in here with a firm answer.
21daisygurl
08-24-2007, 11:18 AM
A clomid challenge is done with 100mg Clomid and yes, it is b/w and u/s to monitor how you respond to it.
If you do Ok on the 100mg, they will bump you down to 50mg to start and work up as needed.
Scooter
08-24-2007, 11:28 AM
What they said. It's to get a baseline of how you respond to the medication itself. It's done at 100mg so they can have a basis of comparison with other people's results and gauge how your body is responding.
sea74
08-24-2007, 03:45 PM
Mine was at 50mg and not 100mg. I wonder if that's because I do already O on my own or what :confused:
Scooter
08-24-2007, 06:28 PM
Sea, that's funny, because I always O'd on my own but my CCT was 100mg. Maybe your RE has his/her own standard and always uses 50mg...?
sea74
08-24-2007, 08:38 PM
I know if the paper work there was a section of "what dose of Clomid is the 'right dose' for me" and it talked about the "right" dose being the dose that caused ovulation. I remember thinking what would that mean for me since I do O on my own.
Who knows though. I really thought he'd move me to injections for teh next cycle because that's what we talked about, but he's going to try 50 mg again.
It's very interesting to read everyone's treatment history on here :)
beetle
08-28-2007, 09:24 AM
I so wish I had done more in-depth reading here on CC earlier. I allowed myself to go through six rounds of unmonitored Clomid with my ob/gyn, and now I'm left to wonder how things might have been different if I had been seeing an RE and receiving full monitoring.
I never had any major side effects (just some nasty hot flashes and dizziness), but I didn't conceive with Clomid. Here's a summary:
-Round 1: 50 mg, no ovulation, cycle ended with Provera
-Round 2: 100 mg, ovulation, BFN
-Round 3: 100 mg, ovulation, BFN
-Round 4: 100 mg, no ovulation, cycle ended with Provera
-Round 5: 100 mg, added estrogen, ovulation, BFN
-Round 6 (current): 100 mg, estrogen, no ovulation, have received referral to RE and cycle will likely have to be ended with Provera
I thought it was strange that the same dosage induced ovulation some cycles and not others, but maybe this is common? Anyway, at this point I'm just hanging out, waiting for my first RE appointment on 9/24.
jennylou
08-29-2007, 10:17 AM
beetle - where you not charting with your cycle? I find it so beneficial to chart - even on clomid - so that you have a broader picture of what's going on.
beetle
08-29-2007, 11:33 AM
jennylou, yes, I charted faithfully and used OPKs, too. Had clear ovulation on some cycles and nothing whatsoever on others. BD was timed well on the cycles I did O, so who knows what else is going on. Hopefully the RE can offer some more insight.
TwnklToes80
09-02-2007, 08:03 PM
OMG, I SOOOOOO hope someone can help me here. I just started my second round of clomid, I've been at 100mg both cycles. I've learned to deal with the hot flashes, which aren't so bad this cycle. But I'm breaking out like teenager on prom night. My face looks like a freaking christmas tree. I don't know what to do. I've been using an exfoliating scrub with 2% salytic acid, but it doesn't do much. It helps with the redness at least. Anyone think clomid could be the cause of it??? Any suggestions on temp treatment?? I'd rather not get a script for cream.
jennylou
09-02-2007, 08:16 PM
jennylou, yes, I charted faithfully and used OPKs, too. Had clear ovulation on some cycles and nothing whatsoever on others. BD was timed well on the cycles I did O, so who knows what else is going on. Hopefully the RE can offer some more insight.
Interesting!
twnkltoes - Not sure what you can do about such a large breakout, but it certainly could be the clomid, since it's messing with your hormones. Hopefully, it's all for a good cause.
TwnklToes80
09-02-2007, 09:25 PM
twnkltoes - Not sure what you can do about such a large breakout, but it certainly could be the clomid, since it's messing with your hormones. Hopefully, it's all for a good cause.
OOOO, i sure hope so. Had a Dr appt on Thursday and he said everything looked good. I am actually having regular cycles again, so he's assuming I'm Oing.
Just out of curiosity though, how did your doc know you were Oing on clomid?? He's not doing any U/S. I'm just supposed to keep track of my AF and when we BD on this little card he gave me.
I went from having 40-80 day cycles, to now having 28-30 days cycles (last 3 cycles off the pill and 1 round of clomid).
Twylla
09-22-2007, 06:53 PM
Hey ladies. I have a question for pretty much anyone's who's been on clomid in the past. How many days did you take it? My OB had me on first 50mg for 5 days, then 100mg for 5 days. Now we're seeing an RE, and she's bumped me up to 100mg for 10 days. Anyone else deal with this? And how did it turn out? TIA!
jennylou
09-23-2007, 06:54 AM
Twylla - I've never heard of anyone taking it for 10 days. Perhaps the RE thinks that you need more stimulation? Maybe your ovaries weren't responding well? I'm not sure, but if you ask, I'd be curious to know her/his answer!
Twylla
09-23-2007, 10:32 PM
Jennylou... I definitely wasn't responding on 100mg for 5 days. I'd been for follicle tracking u/s and the follicles never got big enough to O. But I'd never heard of anyone taking it for 10 days either, so I was curious. The good news is that since starting Metformin as well, my cycles are "normal" for once, and I'm feeling pretty crampy on CD19, which is unusual, so maybe it was enough for me to O! Thanks for responding. Anyone else heard of 10 days of clomid?
twnkltoes I break out pretty bad on clomid as well. Not much that can be done about it unfortunately. I get a good patch near CD14ish and again when AF is approaching. The one tip I'd heard of is to change your pillow case more than you usually do to stop from having as much oil and gunk to lay your skin on. Not sure if it's helping me much, but it's worth a shot! I keep repeating to myself "It'll all be worth it soon." Good luck!
Scooter
09-23-2007, 10:48 PM
I think I may have seen that once, I know one person around here was on it for an extended period of time. I'm not sure if it was 10 days or something like 7 or 8 (it was several yrs ago). Good luck, I hope it works for you. :)
Twylla
09-24-2007, 03:05 PM
Thanks Scooter! I guess my RE is just being very agressive. This is my first cycle with her, and it "feels" like more is happenning, so I'm hoping. I'm glad I hadn't imagined 10days being a bit longer than normal.
And just in case anyone's wondering, the side effects did double with the clomid. Hot flashes come probably once or twice an HOUR, the spots are all over my face, chest, arms, and the crankiness is, well, pretty bad. Poor DH!
TwnklToes80
09-29-2007, 09:34 AM
Thanks for the advice Twylla. I'll give it a shot, although not even the super duper face wash seems to be working for me now. Sucks.
So here's my question of the day. How did you dr monitor if you were Oing or not while on the clomid? My dr just has me keep a chart of when i bleed and when we BD and that's it. When i get AF, I have to go back in so he can do a quick internal and make sure my ovaries aren't enlarged, and that's pretty much it. He says I would be having 28-30 day cycles if I wasn't Oing. But I think we all know that there is such a thing as an anovulatory cycle that seems to be a normal length. I'm not seeing an RE right now. my Dr said that we should wait until 3 failed cycles on the clomid. I still think DH should have a SA asap, but dr said we need to get me Oing first. I dunno, I'm confused and really frustrated now.
Scooter
09-29-2007, 10:36 AM
That's a major difference between the type of care you receive from an ob instead of an RE. It's much more dangerous, frankly, for the ob not to be monitoring you at all, and something for you to consider if you're comfortable with the risks. This reminds me I was thinking about starting a thread for people to share their experiences with OBs vs REs.
"Monitoring" means ultrasounds often bloodwork during the cycle. The ultrasounds are going to help you figure out when you're ovulating.
You would have a baseline u/s on cd3 to make sure you do not have any cysts before you start the clomid. You'd go back after finishing the clomid, usually sometime between cd10-13 for another u/s. Depending on what size the follicles are, they may have you come back for one or more ultrasounds in a day or two to check the size again. Many REs also like you to do OPKs on top of it. Because follicles grow at a steady rate, they are able to predict when they are going to get big enough to burst, so you usually have a pretty accurate prediction of when yuo're going to ovulate.
Chelsea524
09-29-2007, 10:59 AM
TwnklToes My dr did an u/s each month around CD14 to make sure I was going to O, he also wanted me to chart but I stuck with OPKs instead and he was ok with that. I had a couple cycles before we found the right dose of Clomid that I didn't O and they were still 30 days each so I would ask for more monitoring or switch to an RE. As for the SA I would push for that as well, what if your DH had a very low count, whats the point of giving you meds each month if he doesn't have the sperm to get to the egg?
Twylla
10-01-2007, 03:53 PM
TwnklToes When I was being treated by an OB I was going for u/s about every 3 to 4 days, starting on CD10 for follicle tracking. Now that I'm seeing an RE, I simply go for bloodwork on CD24. It's my first cycle with theRE so I don't know if it'll be effective or not.
But I agree with PP, simply tracking BDing and days of AF doesn't seem an effective way of tracking O.
I'd recommend temping & OPK's, especially if you O is erratic like mine. I start the OPK's on Day 12 & I keep doing them until I get a + combined with a temp jump within a couple days OR AF arrives. I had a couple months where I stopped the OPK's too early & then was disappointed that we had missed timing. I've started ordering the OPK's on the early pregnancy test website (sorry, don't have it here with me) since I go through so many. It's quite a bit to keep up with, but I do feel like I have a really good understanding of how my cycles work. (or don't work!!) ;)
Twylla
10-01-2007, 07:45 PM
Like Bee, we're a bit paranoid about missing the O, should it EVER happen! So we've become crazy rabbits, and we BD every. other. day. Sometimes fun, sometimes exhausting, but at least we can't fault ourselves for not trying!
kerrykate
10-04-2007, 05:19 AM
I just wanted to let you ladies know that clomid is now part of walmarts $9 prescription program. My insurance doesn't cover clomid so this worked out very well for me. It's $9 per 5 50mg pills. I'm on 100mg so it cost me $18 much cheaper than last time when I got it at CVS for $55.
TwnklToes80
10-04-2007, 11:51 AM
I just wanted to let you ladies know that clomid is now part of walmarts $9 prescription program. My insurance doesn't cover clomid so this worked out very well for me. It's $9 per 5 50mg pills. I'm on 100mg so it cost me $18 much cheaper than last time when I got it at CVS for $55.
OMG, thank you so much for sharing this. My Dr wants to up my does to 150 mg if this cycle fails and that means it will cost over $60. I'll be moving that script over to walmart pronto.
So I mentioned to my dr that i was concerned that we weren't doing any blood tests or ultrasounds to make sure I am Oing. he still seemed pretty convinced that I am Oing based on the length of my cycles. He did say, however, that if this cycle fails, he would like to do an HSG to make sure there is no blockage or issues with my uterus. Not too excited about that
Twylla
10-04-2007, 02:40 PM
Twnkltoes, what do you think? Do you suspect annovulation? Because I know that I definitely wasn't O'ing, even on 5 days of 100mg of clomid. I knew that through monitoring. You do have a couple of options though: you could either look for a second opinion on not monitoring you with u/s and b/w, or you could try an ovulation predictor kit at home. I just find it really odd that this dr is deciding you DO ovulate, based simply on cycle length. I wasn't ovulating when my cycles were 140+ days, but I wasn't ovulating when they were 28 days either. I'd just hate to watch this take even longer for you than it needs to, kwim? {hugs} I hope something works out soon!
ETA: An HSG isn't a bad idea either, mind you. My doc wouldn't prescribe any clomid until I'd already had an HSG.
JLRenheos
10-04-2007, 05:38 PM
kerry Hey there! Haven't chatted w/you in a long while. Hope all is well! How's L ? BTW, thanks for the heads up about the price of Clomid at Walmart. I paid $15(co-pay) for 5 days worth of Clomid. I filled it at CVS. I took 150 mg. per day for 5 days. If it doesn't work this cycle, then I may have to transfer my RX!
waves *Hello*! to Twy!! ;)
Twylla
10-05-2007, 07:43 PM
waves *Hello*! to Twy!! ;)
Hey J! 150mg/5 days is a lot... I'm glad they aren't messing around, especially given your history and what they already know about your cycles. Good luck!
JLRenheos
10-10-2007, 05:07 PM
Still having some residual S/E from the Clomid.
Nurse told me that the s/e can last up to a month. oh boy. :rolleyes:
Hotflashes come & go, and then I'm really restless at night. I'm hot & then I'm cold.
I must say that I really had dry/cotton mouth bad. There is a product out there called Oasis and/or you could also try Biotene. It's supposed to help w/dry mouth.
I've been having a lot of sensations the last 2 days. My stomach feels bloated. It feels as though my follies are growing and/or I'm getting ready to O. I finished my last Clomid pill over a week ago.
dancn226
10-17-2007, 11:34 AM
JL~I know what you mean on the S/E. They have been horrible this month for me, as you know from the Charting thread. But I am praying to god this is the last month of clomid. I couldn't sleep lastnight because of all my problems, the hotflashes, then freezing. I was so restless last night I spent the night on the couch. I feel your pain. I am tired of all these S/E:mad:
Scooter
10-17-2007, 11:46 AM
JL, the s/e's last the entire cycle (they can get worse in the 2ww) and since it stays in your system you can even feel them through the next cycle if it's non-medicated. If the next cycle is medicated, the s/e's can actually increase because the medication builds up in your system over time. Thought I'd warn you, *just in case* you have to do another cycle. :)
JLRenheos
10-17-2007, 06:20 PM
thanks Scooter! You're always so helpful/knowledgeable around here on these family planning boards ;)
I think I tolerated the s/e's of Clomid so far...considering. I'm *hoping that I don't have to go through another medicated cycle. I had a horrible night sweat the other night.
dancn I did find myself a little restless at times, where I couldn't fall asleep early. Just make sure you're drinking a lot of water to keep yourself hydrated. Maybe the s/e's are worse for you, since you've already had prior clomid cycles & they've built up in your system like the PP said.
As of now, I'm 6dptrigger, so we shall see if it worked!
Twylla
10-18-2007, 08:04 PM
I just wanted to chime in on the oh so lovely side effects of clomid again.... The night sweats are so bad for me now that they're impacting how much sleep I can get, so I'm even more tired than I was before. Hot flashes still come fast and furious during the day (ton o' fun when you're on live tv three times a day....), but they way they're waking me up at night is awful. This is my sixth cycle on clomid now, and they've definitely gotten worse.
The good news is that my RE doesn't expect me to go more than four more clomid cycles are this one......
akacharlotte
12-23-2007, 03:33 PM
If we are not pregnant we will be starting Clomid next cycle. The s/e I am most worried about is the headaches and the moodiness. I get some pretty bad migraines on my own so I'm hoping the Clomid s/e of headache is one I will not experience. The hot flashes will be welcome as I am always cold! ;)
katiems118
12-23-2007, 05:27 PM
The hot flashes came as night sweats for me....they were miserable for 5 cycles for me, and I had some killer cramps...but this 6th clomid cycle worked out well, so I shouldnt complain.
ktnkids
01-31-2009, 05:13 PM
Question-first cycle on clomid 50. Now on CD22 I had a progesterone level drawn and it was 38! That's really high! Any thoughts??
anniegirl
02-02-2009, 12:55 PM
Another Clomid question.
I am thinking about taking the Clomid plunge (no real diagnosis, suspected weak ovulation resulting in light spotting during the LP). Would you recommend asking the RE for a different drug instead? The RE said he monitors on Clomid. Does that mean he'll be able to see if I have two follicles develop? I am scared of having twins or triplets and was wondering if they can tell if you are headed that way.
love6598
06-24-2009, 04:45 PM
Question for anyone still in here: I am on 50mg of clomid this month (my very first month) and have 2 eggs that have emerged. My problem is lack of good CM. I am a few days from Oing but usually have great CM by now. Has anyone in here used preseed to help things along??
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