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tgr68
06-17-2009, 11:23 AM
Continue the photography discussion here.

Photography? (http://www.constantchatter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=150)

armybratmommy
06-19-2009, 03:29 PM
I need help!!! What would you do??

Okay so I did four boudoir shoots about two weeks ago. I did all of them for free so long as I could use the pictures in my portfolio. I made it clear that they had to sign a model release and the photos would be public. Now, one of the girls is asking for her's to be made private. What you would do? She knew they were going to be public. I'm kinda at a loss because my business is new and I would like to try to avoid making anyone mad.

(i only posted a link to my blog so you could read what i posted for the casting call not to promote my business i will remove the link soon)

Ellyn
06-19-2009, 06:39 PM
I guess I would do one of three things:
1. Keep it public, make sure your paperwork is in order and say, "sorry, you signed the release which clearly stated xyz"

or

2. Skip making the images private, chalk it up to a loss, and don't make the pics available to her at all(if you have already given her the cd, I'd ask for it back...I know it could be copied, but there's not much you can do about that now)

or

3. Accept her request for privacy and have her pay for the sitting fee as if this were not for your portfolio...just like other clients do (or will have to) and then allow her to purchase photos, cds, etc.

I suppose with just starting out I would do option 2 or 3.

ManteoChik
06-19-2009, 08:07 PM
As a photographer I try to be sensitive to the requests of the customer, even with a model release. Boudoir shoots tend to require a bit more sensitivity. She might have had every intention of letting you use them, then maybe had a change of heart about having such racy photos of herself be available for public viewing.

Yes, she signed a model release. Technically you can continue to use them in any way you see fit, however, this person has the potential to be a future client AND refer other future clients. You said you've done four Boudoir sessions, use the other three for your portfolio.

I would ask her if she would be willing to have the images in a private gallery, but able to be viewed by password only for someone who has a serious interest in doing a Boudoir session with you - and needs more inspiration.

miaclear
06-19-2009, 08:52 PM
I would try to be sensitive to her request. Maybe there are just a few images she's really worried about being out there. I'm sure you could agree between the two of you on some of the images you could use on your site.

FWIW...when I went to your link I was able to view the gallery on zenfolio with her images. I liked hers the best of the recent ones that you did, so hopefully she'll agree to some.

armybratmommy
06-20-2009, 09:54 PM
Mia~ when I emailed her that is what I offered her. I figured I would start the "negotiation" there. and I think you're probably looking at "U's" album and blog post. she contacted me as a paying client and i offered her the option to take advantage of the free shoot. she told me she wanted to see the photos first before she made her decision. i love how her's turned out!

armybratmommy
06-20-2009, 09:55 PM
I guess I would do one of three things:
1. Keep it public, make sure your paperwork is in order and say, "sorry, you signed the release which clearly stated xyz"

or

2. Skip making the images private, chalk it up to a loss, and don't make the pics available to her at all(if you have already given her the cd, I'd ask for it back...I know it could be copied, but there's not much you can do about that now)

or

3. Accept her request for privacy and have her pay for the sitting fee as if this were not for your portfolio...just like other clients do (or will have to) and then allow her to purchase photos, cds, etc.

I suppose with just starting out I would do option 2 or 3.

this is also what i am considering if she still wants them private. I haven't sent her the CD yet so option two is still doable.

armybratmommy
06-20-2009, 09:57 PM
As a photographer I try to be sensitive to the requests of the customer, even with a model release. Boudoir shoots tend to require a bit more sensitivity. She might have had every intention of letting you use them, then maybe had a change of heart about having such racy photos of herself be available for public viewing.

Yes, she signed a model release. Technically you can continue to use them in any way you see fit, however, this person has the potential to be a future client AND refer other future clients. You said you've done four Boudoir sessions, use the other three for your portfolio.

I would ask her if she would be willing to have the images in a private gallery, but able to be viewed by password only for someone who has a serious interest in doing a Boudoir session with you - and needs more inspiration.

see this is why the decision on what to do seems so hard because i don't want any bad "reviews" yet. I mean you know you're going to have those people that you just can't satisfy but I would like to have been in business a little longer before I run into that........if that makes sense lol.

taffers
06-24-2009, 10:55 AM
I just got the Nikon D60 DSLR camera, and OMG, I'm so clueless! I'm trying to read the manual, but I think I may buy "D60 for Dummies"! :o I'm reading through the Photography 1 thread so hopefully that will help.

I love looking at everyone's beautiful pictures! I hope I can get there someday.

My question is, do I need Photoshop software? I think I'd like to get it. Keeping in mind I'm a HUGE beginner, what should I buy that is fairly user friendly?

Thanks!

ManteoChik
06-24-2009, 02:40 PM
I just got the Nikon D60 DSLR camera, and OMG, I'm so clueless! I'm trying to read the manual, but I think I may buy "D60 for Dummies"! :o I'm reading through the Photography 1 thread so hopefully that will help.

I love looking at everyone's beautiful pictures! I hope I can get there someday.

My question is, do I need Photoshop software? I think I'd like to get it. Keeping in mind I'm a HUGE beginner, what should I buy that is fairly user friendly?

Thanks!

Before jumping into software, I'd recommend learning to use your camera first. Understanding ISO, F-Stops, and Shutter Speeds is the first step to learning how to work your camera. Once you get that stuff down, then venture into other things - like Photoshop. PS is a pretty complex program and can be very overwhelming if you aren't familiar with image editing.

I would recommend checking out your local community college to see if they offer any basic photography classes. Some people will try to take online classes, and while it might work for some I think you'll get more knowledge if you are working hands on with an instructor.

armybratmommy
06-24-2009, 03:33 PM
Before jumping into software, I'd recommend learning to use your camera first. Understanding ISO, F-Stops, and Shutter Speeds is the first step to learning how to work your camera. Once you get that stuff down, then venture into other things - like Photoshop. PS is a pretty complex program and can be very overwhelming if you aren't familiar with image editing.

I would recommend checking out your local community college to see if they offer any basic photography classes. Some people will try to take online classes, and while it might work for some I think you'll get more knowledge if you are working hands on with an instructor.


ditto this. but if you really want to buy something now I have photoshop elements 7. It works for me. i would say not so user friendly but i have never used photoshop before that. If you want to spend the extra money photoshop lightroom is AWESOME! and i think user friendly. for "personal" photos i tend to use www.picnik.com alot.

taffers
06-24-2009, 07:31 PM
Thanks for the advice! I was actually looking at Elements 7 because I think it was the cheapest on Amazon. ;)

I have another question. Why or when do you use the A (aperture) setting vs. the S (shutter) setting? I think I pretty much get the A setting, but shutter confuses me...when do you use it or need to change it? Can you give me examples?

I was trying to get the popular feet shot with a blurry background and could not get it in ANY setting (auto, P, A, S or M)...I finally got it in A when I put it on the smallest f number AND changed the ISO to 200 (as opposed to 100 which is the auto setting for the camera).

How and when does ISO play into it?

armybratmommy
06-25-2009, 08:25 AM
Thanks for the advice! I was actually looking at Elements 7 because I think it was the cheapest on Amazon. ;)

I have another question. Why or when do you use the A (aperture) setting vs. the S (shutter) setting? I think I pretty much get the A setting, but shutter confuses me...when do you use it or need to change it? Can you give me examples?

I was trying to get the popular feet shot with a blurry background and could not get it in ANY setting (auto, P, A, S or M)...I finally got it in A when I put it on the smallest f number AND changed the ISO to 200 (as opposed to 100 which is the auto setting for the camera).

How and when does ISO play into it?

these are all questions I had when I first got my camera. I went and bought a few books bc there were no classes to take in my area. I would recommend getting a Scott Kelby book, or atleast I like his books............and I know this questions is answered in the other photography thread. i'll see if i can find the page it's on.

miaclear
06-25-2009, 08:29 AM
Question for you pros out there, or anyone else who wants to answer. The photographer that I used for the first year of my son's life went out of business. When she found out I was having twins she offered to do a free newborn session so she could keep up with her craft. She said the session would be free and she'd sell prints to me at a discount. So the babies came, and 3 days after they came home she was here to take pictures. 2 days later she showed me 4 or 5 sample pics and said she was working on the rest and that she'd get me a CD with them on there since she disabled her website. I haven't heard from her since. Here's the timeframe.

May 26th- she sends me sample pics in email and says she is working on the rest. Offers to do a few more pics that week since our session was full of fussy babies.

May 27th- I reply thanks and say I look forward to seeing the rest.

May 30th- I ask about the remainder photos, she replies that she didn't get a chance to work on them that weekend but will finish them this week.

June 10th- I email her stating "Just checking in" as I don't want to be pushy

June 23rd- I email her asking if she was "able to finish the CD" as I still don't want to be pushy.

I know she did the session for free but I'm REALLY ticked off. I didn't hire a photographer because she offered to do the session. We'd used her four times the first year of my son's life and her work was great. I didn't feel like I needed a backup photographer and now I'm stuck with 4 low res pictures with her watermark on them because she won't reply to my emails.

I only have her email address, since she took down her website I don't have her phone number. I do also have some contact with her sister and could try to ask her about it. But I don't really want to go there. I also follow her personal blog and she's posted about the fun things she's doing this summer so I know a family emergency isn't the issue. I just want my pictures, even if they are full of fussy babies.

Any thoughts on how I should approach this?

armybratmommy
06-25-2009, 08:31 AM
Thanks for the advice! I was actually looking at Elements 7 because I think it was the cheapest on Amazon. ;)

I have another question. Why or when do you use the A (aperture) setting vs. the S (shutter) setting? I think I pretty much get the A setting, but shutter confuses me...when do you use it or need to change it? Can you give me examples?

I was trying to get the popular feet shot with a blurry background and could not get it in ANY setting (auto, P, A, S or M)...I finally got it in A when I put it on the smallest f number AND changed the ISO to 200 (as opposed to 100 which is the auto setting for the camera).

How and when does ISO play into it?

trying reading here for your "popular feet shot" issue http://www.constantchatter.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1846512#post1846512 i believe it's on page 83ish.

armybratmommy
06-25-2009, 08:34 AM
Question for you pros out there, or anyone else who wants to answer. The photographer that I used for the first year of my son's life went out of business. When she found out I was having twins she offered to do a free newborn session so she could keep up with her craft. She said the session would be free and she'd sell prints to me at a discount. So the babies came, and 3 days after they came home she was here to take pictures. 2 days later she showed me 4 or 5 sample pics and said she was working on the rest and that she'd get me a CD with them on there since she disabled her website. I haven't heard from her since. Here's the timeframe.

May 26th- she sends me sample pics in email and says she is working on the rest. Offers to do a few more pics that week since our session was full of fussy babies.

May 27th- I reply thanks and say I look forward to seeing the rest.

May 30th- I ask about the remainder photos, she replies that she didn't get a chance to work on them that weekend but will finish them this week.

June 10th- I email her stating "Just checking in" as I don't want to be pushy

June 23rd- I email her asking if she was "able to finish the CD" as I still don't want to be pushy.

I know she did the session for free but I'm REALLY ticked off. I didn't hire a photographer because she offered to do the session. We'd used her four times the first year of my son's life and her work was great. I didn't feel like I needed a backup photographer and now I'm stuck with 4 low res pictures with her watermark on them because she won't reply to my emails.

I only have her email address, since she took down her website I don't have her phone number. I do also have some contact with her sister and could try to ask her about it. But I don't really want to go there. I also follow her personal blog and she's posted about the fun things she's doing this summer so I know a family emergency isn't the issue. I just want my pictures, even if they are full of fussy babies.

Any thoughts on how I should approach this?

This is a tough situation. no offense but she was going out of business i think i would have had a back up photographer. but since you have used her before i understand why you felt you didn't need to. i would continue to contact her any way possible if the photos are that important to you. because she did the shoot for free im not sure if there is much you can do "legally" if that makes sense. I could be wrong though.

miaclear
06-25-2009, 08:52 AM
This is a tough situation. no offense but she was going out of business i think i would have had a back up photographer. but since you have used her before i understand why you felt you didn't need to. i would continue to contact her any way possible if the photos are that important to you. because she did the shoot for free im not sure if there is much you can do "legally" if that makes sense. I could be wrong though.

I doubt I'd do anything legal. I guess I just want to know how much I should hound her for the pictures before irritating her. I suppose that's more related to her own personality than her being a photographer. Maybe I just needed a vent. I should add that she told me she was going to start booking sessions again, but only newborn sessions. So although she was out of business for a year she had just decided she wanted to try to get back into it (she had stopped cause she had a baby of her own).

armybratmommy
06-25-2009, 09:54 AM
I doubt I'd do anything legal. I guess I just want to know how much I should hound her for the pictures before irritating her. I suppose that's more related to her own personality than her being a photographer. Maybe I just needed a vent. I should add that she told me she was going to start booking sessions again, but only newborn sessions. So although she was out of business for a year she had just decided she wanted to try to get back into it (she had stopped cause she had a baby of her own).

I think if i were in your shoes i would give her a month before i started contacting her more than usual........every other day lol.........i love pictures and if they are of my family the are very important to me. For my shoots, it usually takes me less than two weeks to get them edited and up for viewing, so i think the month would be plenty of time for her to get them done and to you. Good luck with it and hopefully you will get your pictures. :)

armybratmommy
06-25-2009, 09:57 AM
another issue.......i seem to be full of them lately..................so i usually post a few pictures from shoots on my blog/facebook/myspace etc. when i post them at these places they have my water mark on them. well lately i have been running into the problem of people cropping out my water marks and posting the pictures. anyone run into this? and how do you deal with it?

KGif
06-25-2009, 10:03 AM
Mia - that just sucks. I don't care if you paid $0 or $100 - to me when I give my word to someone that I am going to do something, I do it! And even if the crazy days of Summer have just gotten in her way she could have at least shot an email saying "I do aplolgize for the delay - the way it's looking I will not have you photos edited until mid-July. Thanks for being so patient!" or something like that. With that being said I'm thinking at this point I'd cut my losses with her and find a new photographer to do pics of your tiny ones while they are still tiny ;)

I'm sure this has been discussed before (don't have the time to go thru the entire 1st thread!) but I'd recommend the book "Understanding Exposure" by Bryan Peterson to any photography "newbie". I got a Nikon D40 a year or so ago and that was the first book I bought. Read my camera user's guide then "Understanding Exposure" right away and actually started out shooting in manual. That book helped so much in obtaining an undestanding of the different settings and what to use to obtain a specific result!

A recommendation in this thread just prompted me to download "The Digital Photography Book, Volume 1" by Scott Kelby to my Kindle. I'll start reading it tonight and will be sure to post a review when I am done. I've heard nothing but great things about Scott Kelby so I'm sure I will learn a ton from that book.

KGif
06-25-2009, 10:09 AM
ArmyBratMommy - They are cropping out your watermark then re-posting them places where you can see them!? Goodness! I honestly think some people just don't understand that doing that is wrong. I'd place your watermark in a more strategic location - such as center of the subject of the photo - where it can't really be cropped out.

Also do you have any kind of copyright notice on your sites where you post the pics? Maybe also add a "gentle reminder" that "No pictures from this site may be printed or posted elsewhere without the written consent of the photographer..blah blah".

KGif
06-25-2009, 10:13 AM
Also - check out the following solution for your blog. You can program your page to pop up a copyright message when someone tries to right click a photo!

http://www.bloggertricks.com/2007/12/how-to-disable-right-click-in.html

armybratmommy
06-25-2009, 10:30 AM
ArmyBratMommy - They are cropping out your watermark then re-posting them places where you can see them!? Goodness! I honestly think some people just don't understand that doing that is wrong. I'd place your watermark in a more strategic location - such as center of the subject of the photo - where it can't really be cropped out.

Also do you have any kind of copyright notice on your sites where you post the pics? Maybe also add a "gentle reminder" that "No pictures from this site may be printed or posted elsewhere without the written consent of the photographer..blah blah".

i do have a copyright notice posted on all sites where my photos appear. it really sucks bc the people who are doing it are people who i know personally. i really wanted to avoid putting my water mark in the middle of the photo but i guess that's what i'll have to start doing. i planned on posting a "gentle reminder" too. thanks for the advice :)

taffers
06-25-2009, 04:59 PM
trying reading here for your "popular feet shot" issue http://www.constantchatter.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1846512#post1846512 i believe it's on page 83ish.

Thanks!

miaclear
06-29-2009, 08:14 PM
Personal Update.....Errr....It's been another week tomorrow that I haven't heard from my photographer. I'm starting to get really pissed off. I think here on out I'll just send her one email a week till I hear from her. I'll keep them upbeat and nice because I just don't want to go mean, I know I'll never see the pictures then. Although I really really want to just rip her a new one.

How does your camera travel? I've been looking for a new camera bag, I'm thinking I want to go a backpack route and liked the size of the Tamrac Adventure 6 but some of the reviews online make me think it might be a little small.

Nikon owners....what flash are you using? I'm thinking of getting the SB400 but am not sure if I should just get the 600. Seems like it's about $100 more but it might be more flash than I need. Anyone have experience with either?

armybratmommy
06-30-2009, 06:47 AM
Personal Update.....Errr....It's been another week tomorrow that I haven't heard from my photographer. I'm starting to get really pissed off. I think here on out I'll just send her one email a week till I hear from her. I'll keep them upbeat and nice because I just don't want to go mean, I know I'll never see the pictures then. Although I really really want to just rip her a new one.

How does your camera travel? I've been looking for a new camera bag, I'm thinking I want to go a backpack route and liked the size of the Tamrac Adventure 6 but some of the reviews online make me think it might be a little small.

Nikon owners....what flash are you using? I'm thinking of getting the SB400 but am not sure if I should just get the 600. Seems like it's about $100 more but it might be more flash than I need. Anyone have experience with either?

wow i can't believe you still haven't heard from her. that is so crazy and so tacky.

i have a "medicine" looking bag for my camera that i got at best buy. I think it's "swissgear."

as far as the flash, i think it all depends on what you want to do with it. I have the 600 and am a little frustrated by it bc i have to have a second flash to do anything "off camera." If i would have bought the 800 i wouldn't need a second flash to do that. if you're not looking to do anything "off camera" then either really would work.

armybratmommy
06-30-2009, 08:25 AM
edit what i just said. get the 600. it looks like with the 400 you can't rotate the flash.

miaclear
06-30-2009, 08:03 PM
edit what i just said. get the 600. it looks like with the 400 you can't rotate the flash.

That's what I was thinking....cause that would mean you can't bounce it right? Then I was reading reviews and they were talking about being able to bounce it, but probably not off a ceiling higher than 10 feet.

Newborn Pics Update....I got an email tonight!!!! I get to pick up my CD with pictures tomorrow. So glad I didn't get nasty. Although she was apologetic in her email, what would it have taken to email me once to just say she was still working on it. Anyhow...YEA!

ManteoChik
07-01-2009, 06:34 AM
Personal Update.....Errr....It's been another week tomorrow that I haven't heard from my photographer. I'm starting to get really pissed off. I think here on out I'll just send her one email a week till I hear from her. I'll keep them upbeat and nice because I just don't want to go mean, I know I'll never see the pictures then. Although I really really want to just rip her a new one.

How does your camera travel? I've been looking for a new camera bag, I'm thinking I want to go a backpack route and liked the size of the Tamrac Adventure 6 but some of the reviews online make me think it might be a little small.

Nikon owners....what flash are you using? I'm thinking of getting the SB400 but am not sure if I should just get the 600. Seems like it's about $100 more but it might be more flash than I need. Anyone have experience with either?

Saw your update, glad you get to pick your pictures up.

Camera Travel
For limited use, when I'm only carrying one camera I use this:
http://ai.pricegrabber.com/pi/0/43/81/4381046_640.jpg

For everyday use, and travel I use one similar to this:
http://www.tamrac.com/767-opn-K-06.jpg

I tend to use the backpack the most, as I can fit two camera bodies, the 70-200, flashes, and all my other gear with no problems. For travel, I also prefer this because it has a laptop compartment in the back - and I rarely travel without my laptop. Plus, it has plenty of space in the front sections for my wallet, keys, phone, etc, and not need a purse.

Flashes
I shoot Canon and Nikon, and I use the SB800 for the Nikon. Primarily TTL-BL, but also TTL and Manual for when the occasion calls for it.

WisWis
07-01-2009, 06:42 AM
http://www.cameraworld.co.uk/images/products/extra/Kata%20DR465%20open%20280.jpg

I have a Kata 465 and I love it. It isn't particularly large but I wanted something that would travel easily and that I could comfortably wear while hiking. It doesn't scream "camera bag" which was also one of my requirements. I love the pocket at the top - there's room in it for snacks, cell phone, book, etc. I've never regretted my purchase - if something happened to it today I'd replace it with the same bag.

CarolinaGirl
07-01-2009, 09:03 AM
Okay, I have a stupid question...but I'm not a photographer or a computer wizard either. I recently bought a Nikon D60 and Photoshop Elements. I've edited a few of my photos in PSE, but when I go to print them out on my printer (HP Photosmart), the color is off and they just don't look good. What is the solution? Do I save the pictures on a disk (or what other storage device?) and take it to a local developer (Walgreens, CVS, etc...) and print them out there? Or, do I have them printed by an online co. like Snapfish?
FWIW, I've tried changing some of the print settings - like the type of paper and the quality...but still not much difference. Also, if I put the memory card directly into the printer and print from there the quality is MUCH better so I don't think it is the printer's problem, but somehow the quality diminishes between the computer-printer connection. However, the memory card doesn't contain the PSE edited photos, though. What to do??

ManteoChik
07-01-2009, 01:00 PM
Okay, I have a stupid question...but I'm not a photographer or a computer wizard either. I recently bought a Nikon D60 and Photoshop Elements. I've edited a few of my photos in PSE, but when I go to print them out on my printer (HP Photosmart), the color is off and they just don't look good. What is the solution? Do I save the pictures on a disk (or what other storage device?) and take it to a local developer (Walgreens, CVS, etc...) and print them out there? Or, do I have them printed by an online co. like Snapfish?
FWIW, I've tried changing some of the print settings - like the type of paper and the quality...but still not much difference. Also, if I put the memory card directly into the printer and print from there the quality is MUCH better so I don't think it is the printer's problem, but somehow the quality diminishes between the computer-printer connection. However, the memory card doesn't contain the PSE edited photos, though. What to do??

Lots of things could be the factor. The first thing I'd do is get a monitor calibration kit, and calibrate your monitor - that is most likely the problem. The next thing that comes to mind is your editing (and I don't mean that like it probably writes...lol). PS is a sensitive program and it's really easy to overuse it when you aren't really sure how everything works, etc. Would you mind posting a picture you've edited?

mpc863
07-01-2009, 01:37 PM
Hi! I have a canon digital rebel xti and I think I need a new flash. I often get a flash is busy symbol and i'm missing great shots of my DD. i'm a novice so I don't want to spend tons. what would you recommend?

CarolinaGirl
07-01-2009, 05:02 PM
The next thing that comes to mind is your editing (and I don't mean that like it probably writes...lol).

I'm pretty sure it's not the pse editing because that crossed my mind too and I tried printing a copy that I saved on my computer without editing in pse and it didn't come out well either. So, maybe I do need a monitor calibration kit....how do they work? Otherwise, would they look better if I had Snapfish develop them?

armybratmommy
07-01-2009, 08:55 PM
i would just like to announce to the world that i feel so stupid! lol i just figured out how to download actions in pse and actually have them show up when i open pse. *bangs head on desk* :)

mpc863
07-09-2009, 09:35 AM
hi - still looking for a new flash for my canon. deciding b/w the 430 ex and 580 ex. any thoughts?

CarolinaGirl
07-09-2009, 10:17 AM
i would just like to announce to the world that i feel so stupid! lol i just figured out how to download actions in pse and actually have them show up when i open pse. *bangs head on desk*


What actions do you like?? I haven't figured out how to do it yet, but I've been looking at the ones through Coffee Shop.

armybratmommy
07-09-2009, 07:29 PM
What actions do you like?? I haven't figured out how to do it yet, but I've been looking at the ones through Coffee Shop.

i use her's on coffee shop. she has a tut on there that tells you how to install them and use them. i haven't found any other one's that i like yet. i have spent some of today trying to find some more.

BrownEyedGirl
07-31-2009, 08:59 AM
Is there somewhere you can create photo collages online and save the file?

We just got DS's 2 year photos (hi res photos on cd w/copyright release) and there are sooooo many cute pics that there is no way I will be able to choose just one for our main photo, so I was thinking a collage would be good. I don't have any photo editing software and even if I did, I dont' think I would know how to use it :o

Thanks!!!

armybratmommy
07-31-2009, 02:42 PM
Is there somewhere you can create photo collages online and save the file?

We just got DS's 2 year photos (hi res photos on cd w/copyright release) and there are sooooo many cute pics that there is no way I will be able to choose just one for our main photo, so I was thinking a collage would be good. I don't have any photo editing software and even if I did, I dont' think I would know how to use it :o

Thanks!!!

you could try photobucket.com (i think they might have something) or picnik.com

cosmic
08-06-2009, 05:03 PM
Is anyone doing any lomography? I'm hinting at a Diana or Holga for my birthday next month. ;)

Esq.
08-09-2009, 09:21 AM
Hi all...

I am outing myself as an idiot, I guess. :) I have a Canon G9. I love it, but bought it with the intention of later stepping up to an SLR.

I recently bought a used Rebel XT EOS 350D. I am lost! I am trying to read the dang book, but I am still lost. Any recs on a simple book that will teach me the basics? I know nothing about using an SLR.

LRL
08-12-2009, 03:18 PM
Esq.- I would purchase Understanding Exposure by Bryan Peterson. It's really a great book for learning the basics.

cosmic
09-30-2009, 03:10 PM
Just an update for anyone who cares... ;)
I actually got a Diana F+ for my birthday a few days ago. Now if I can just figure out what the heck I'm doing with it. Today I joined this Diana/lomography Flickr group: http://www.flickr.com/groups/diana_plus/

Anyone want to suggest any other online groups? Also, is anyone experimenting with vintage Polaroids? I love the photos on hulaseventy's blog (http://hulaseventy.blogspot.com/).

armybratmommy
10-28-2009, 03:08 PM
I like the vintage polaroids! Those are cool! As far as other groups, not for sure if you want flickr or not, but i love www.clickinmoms.com they might have more information and others who do lomography on there.

WisWis
10-28-2009, 05:46 PM
I haven't done much with my Diana recently but maybe I'll find time in the near future. Photography, and all of my other hobbies, haven taken a backseat due to the demands of my job right now. I'm not happy about it but that's life. Are you having fun with yours cosmic? My biggest problem was finding a local shop that did decent developing. I'm actually still looking!

cosmic
10-29-2009, 11:43 AM
Yay!
I thought I had turned everyone off with my lo-fi talk. :o Thanks for that link, armybratmommy. I'm signing up! I love that there are so many other amateurs on that site.

WisWis, I'm right there with ya on the demands of work. I'm having fun taking pics but it took me (what felt like) forever to get 120 film. Guess I should have thought about how hard it would be to get film for a 40 year old retro camera...lol. And to think I used to want a Brownie! I haven't gotten anything developed yet, but I was told to try Walgreens for some reason. I'd love to see any pics when you have a chance to take more. I'll try to do the same, but I'm like you so I know it could be a while.

Polaroids are so huge right now, but they're almost too recent for me. I still have bad memories of jacked up photos from the seventies and eighties. But, hey- who doesn't want some leaky, dreamy photo of themselves sitting on a swing in a Gunne Sax dress? :D

armybratmommy
10-31-2009, 09:30 PM
blah! I'm starting to doubt myself a little. I'm raising my prices tomorrow and I'm nervous about the back lash that is going to happen. Anyone ever done a major price change? Were there any repercussions from it? If there were how did you handle it?

armybratmommy
10-31-2009, 09:31 PM
Yay!
I thought I had turned everyone off with my lo-fi talk. :o Thanks for that link, armybratmommy. I'm signing up! I love that there are so many other amateurs on that site.



Yes there are! and the pros on there aren't too bad either when getting advice. It seems to be a very supportive "community" so far. :)

BooeyJ2
11-02-2009, 04:21 PM
Yes there are! and the pros on there aren't too bad either when getting advice. It seems to be a very supportive "community" so far. :)

It's an awesome community. In fact, I just blogged about it the other day :) ....
http://www.lot116.com/blog.php?id=519

armybratmommy
11-02-2009, 10:42 PM
It's an awesome community. In fact, I just blogged about it the other day :) ....
http://www.lot116.com/blog.php?id=519

ha! awesome! It has been a great "investment" so far :)

BooeyJ2
11-03-2009, 04:16 PM
Yeah, I really like it :) I'm surprised that I haven't seen any cattiness over there....especially seeing as though it's a board of all women :)

armybratmommy
11-03-2009, 08:52 PM
Yeah, I really like it :) I'm surprised that I haven't seen any cattiness over there....especially seeing as though it's a board of all women :)

ha! so true!!! lol

miaclear
11-05-2009, 03:22 PM
I got a $50 GC to Wolf Camera for my birthday. I only have my camera and kit lens and there's SO much I'd love to buy for accessories. What would you get? I could chip in about $50 myself so if I wanted to I could spend upwards of $100. Things I've been considering....

a new neck strap
an external flash (would need more money)
a new camera bag
another lens (would need more money)

I'm open to ideas :)

ManteoChik
11-05-2009, 06:36 PM
I got a $50 GC to Wolf Camera for my birthday. I only have my camera and kit lens and there's SO much I'd love to buy for accessories. What would you get? I could chip in about $50 myself so if I wanted to I could spend upwards of $100. Things I've been considering....

a new neck strap
an external flash (would need more money)
a new camera bag
another lens (would need more money)

I'm open to ideas :)

If you only have the kit lens, I would highly recommend getting the "Nifty Fifty", which is the 50mm 1.8. It runs about $100 - and is the best bang for the buck when it comes to lenses. It's a great learning lens and so much better than the crappy kit lens. Nikon and Canon both make their own versions.

endymion411
11-05-2009, 06:39 PM
If you only have the kit lens, I would highly recommend getting the "Nifty Fifty", which is the 50mm 1.8. It runs about $100 - and is the best bang for the buck when it comes to lenses. It's a great learning lens and so much better than the crappy kit lens. Nikon and Canon both make their own versions.

what lens do any of you recommend for the next purchase past the nifty fifty? (preferably under $400 for a canon)

ManteoChik
11-05-2009, 07:13 PM
what lens do any of you recommend for the next purchase past the nifty fifty? (preferably under $400 for a canon)

Really it depends on what you shoot... I'd suggest the Tamron 28-75 2.8. It's the Tamron version of Canon's 24-70 2.8L and it's a great little lens. The Canon version goes for $1400 new, while the Tamron can be bought for around $420.

The Canon L lens is obviously a much better lens, but the Tamron is still a GREAT lens and will be just fine.

miaclear
11-05-2009, 08:40 PM
manteochik....I've thought about getting that lens but I heard that unless I get the AF-S NIKKOR 50mm f/1.4G it will not be autofocus (I have the Nikon D60). Do you know if that's true? And that that particular lens is more around $450. I had heard a few people say it's not such a big deal to focus it yourself....guess I need to go in and try it out.

ManteoChik
11-05-2009, 10:28 PM
manteochik....I've thought about getting that lens but I heard that unless I get the AF-S NIKKOR 50mm f/1.4G it will not be autofocus (I have the Nikon D60). Do you know if that's true? And that that particular lens is more around $450. I had heard a few people say it's not such a big deal to focus it yourself....guess I need to go in and try it out.

Nikon lenses are a bit more - their version of the 50mm 1.8 runs about $120, and yes it can autofocus, but not with a d40 or d60. Manual focus is not difficult unless you are shooting wide open (1.8) because it is a very shallow depth of field and a slight move will put the wrong thing in focus. Of course that wouldn't be an issue if you're shooing in Auto.

The reason for this is that the d60 does not have a focus motor in the camera body because it's an entry level DLSR. Nikon puts most of their focus motors in the lens, and the 50mm 1.8 doesn't have a focus motor in the lens (hence the cheap price).

The Tamron is still a great choice and very versatile.

LRL
11-06-2009, 11:09 AM
Yup, I'd second getting a nifty fifty and the Tamron 28-75 2.8.. the Tamron gets you about 90% of what the Canon L series lense does.

cosmic
11-06-2009, 11:15 AM
Yes there are! and the pros on there aren't too bad either when getting advice. It seems to be a very supportive "community" so far. :)

Now I have an excuse to buy a new scanner. :D I took some pictures at a lively bowling alley this week and can't wait to share. Well, that's provided the photos come out the way they should... lol.

Loud_curly
11-06-2009, 12:36 PM
Hi everyone!

I want a DSLR for Christmas, but have no idea what things I should be looking at/for in evaluating different cameras. I've heard good things about Canons and Nikons, but was hoping to get some insight/tips from you pros. What accessories/lenses should I get? FWIW, I don't imagine using this camera on an everyday basis, and will still likely throw my basic point and shoot in my bag most days.

TIA!

ManteoChik
11-08-2009, 10:12 AM
Hi everyone!

I want a DSLR for Christmas, but have no idea what things I should be looking at/for in evaluating different cameras. I've heard good things about Canons and Nikons, but was hoping to get some insight/tips from you pros. What accessories/lenses should I get? FWIW, I don't imagine using this camera on an everyday basis, and will still likely throw my basic point and shoot in my bag most days.

TIA!

Nikon and Canon entry level DSLR's are going to be comparable in terms of quality. The best thing you can do is head to the nearest camera store or Best Buy to hold them and find out which one feels better in your hands. If you are serious about learning to use your camera manually then I'd recommend the 50mm 1.8 (each brand has their own version). If you don't have any intentions of shooting on anything other than auto you'll be find with the body and kit lens. Each camera will come with a camera strap so I'd recommend a camera bag and you'll need some cards for memory. Other than that I wouldn't go crazy with additional lenses or accessories if you're going to shoot auto, and no sense in buying them until you know and understand how to work your camera.

Here are two related Photography threads where this questions is asked all the time.

http://www.constantchatter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=150&highlight=photography

http://www.constantchatter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2270&highlight=photography

CC doesn't seem to get as much traffic as before so these threads will probably have more info. :)

endymion411
11-09-2009, 04:34 AM
Really it depends on what you shoot... I'd suggest the Tamron 28-75 2.8. It's the Tamron version of Canon's 24-70 2.8L and it's a great little lens. The Canon version goes for $1400 new, while the Tamron can be bought for around $420.

The Canon L lens is obviously a much better lens, but the Tamron is still a GREAT lens and will be just fine.

thanks for the recommendation! a friend offered to sell his canon 24-70 for $750, but i think that might be out of reach, still

ManteoChik
11-10-2009, 03:59 PM
thanks for the recommendation! a friend offered to sell his canon 24-70 for $750, but i think that might be out of reach, still

As long as it's in good shape, that's a KILLER deal. Used they still sell for $1100+.

ambula704
11-16-2009, 07:21 AM
Hey all!

Just bought a Nikon D40 and my family wants ideas to get me for Christmas. Right now I have nothing but the camera and kit lens. I was wanting to get a few (cheap!) things to get me started, but had some questions.

1.) I want a book by Bryan Peterson. Should I get this -
Understanding Exposure (http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Exposure-Photographs-Digital-Updated/dp/0817463003/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1258384609&sr=8-1)

or this -
Understanding Photography Field Guide (http://www.amazon.com/Bryan-Petersons-Understanding-Photography-Field/dp/0817432256/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1258384609&sr=8-2)

I had planned to get the 1st, but when checking Amazon the Field Guide had great reviews, as well. I want something good for beginners, which is what I heard Peterson is good for.


2.) I need a camera bag. I have NO idea what to look for. I know that I want something small, since I don't have many accessories yet. I have a baby and a diaper bag to carry, as well. I looked online but there are SO many options, I was wanting to get some reviews from you guys!

3.) Are there any other gifts I could ask for to go with my camera, in the $50-100 range? I know I can't get any new lenses or anything, but didn't know if there were any other inexpensive "must haves" I could ask for.


THANKS!

ManteoChik
11-18-2009, 06:39 AM
Hey all!

Just bought a Nikon D40 and my family wants ideas to get me for Christmas. Right now I have nothing but the camera and kit lens. I was wanting to get a few (cheap!) things to get me started, but had some questions.

1.) I want a book by Bryan Peterson. Should I get this -
Understanding Exposure (http://www.amazon.com/Understanding-Exposure-Photographs-Digital-Updated/dp/0817463003/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1258384609&sr=8-1)

or this -
Understanding Photography Field Guide (http://www.amazon.com/Bryan-Petersons-Understanding-Photography-Field/dp/0817432256/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1258384609&sr=8-2)

I had planned to get the 1st, but when checking Amazon the Field Guide had great reviews, as well. I want something good for beginners, which is what I heard Peterson is good for.


2.) I need a camera bag. I have NO idea what to look for. I know that I want something small, since I don't have many accessories yet. I have a baby and a diaper bag to carry, as well. I looked online but there are SO many options, I was wanting to get some reviews from you guys!

3.) Are there any other gifts I could ask for to go with my camera, in the $50-100 range? I know I can't get any new lenses or anything, but didn't know if there were any other inexpensive "must haves" I could ask for.


THANKS!

Hey! :)

I'd go with understanding exposure. Camera bags are like a purse, it's different for everyone...lol. The best thing you can do is try to find a camera store close to you and go check some out. I wouldn't buy a camera bag online unless I had already seen it in person. You'll probably only need something really simple anyway.

If you wanted another lens, Nikon's version of the 50mm 1.8 is around $120ish. It's a great starter lens, affectionately called the "nifty fifty". That's probably the only lens you'll find for cheap that is worth it. It far surpasses the kit lens.

Fun accessories would be funky camera straps. Lots of etsy sellers make them, another great vendor is Phat Straps. They really put a lot of personality to your camera, and they are soooo cute.

Other than that, it's never a bad idea to have extra memory cards, an extra camera battery, lens cleaner, etc.

ambula704
11-18-2009, 12:08 PM
Thanks, Courtney! I knew I could count on you! Going to check those things out now!

endymion411
11-18-2009, 01:23 PM
As long as it's in good shape, that's a KILLER deal. Used they still sell for $1100+.

i know. it's killing me (i am sure he takes really good care of his equipment). i just can't shell out that much at once right now!

endymion411
11-18-2009, 01:23 PM
Hey! :)

I'd go with understanding exposure. Camera bags are like a purse, it's different for everyone...lol. The best thing you can do is try to find a camera store close to you and go check some out. I wouldn't buy a camera bag online unless I had already seen it in person. You'll probably only need something really simple anyway.

If you wanted another lens, Nikon's version of the 50mm 1.8 is around $120ish. It's a great starter lens, affectionately called the "nifty fifty". That's probably the only lens you'll find for cheap that is worth it. It far surpasses the kit lens.

Fun accessories would be funky camera straps. Lots of etsy sellers make them, another great vendor is Phat Straps. They really put a lot of personality to your camera, and they are soooo cute.

Other than that, it's never a bad idea to have extra memory cards, an extra camera battery, lens cleaner, etc.

all perfect ideas for that price range!

Rosebud
12-01-2009, 09:48 AM
Could use some advice from you photography pros. I've just gotten my first DSLR, a Nikon D3000. I've been working with the kit lens and trying to get to know the camera. I've also ordered "Understanding Exposure" and "The Digital Photography Book." There's a lot to learn!

Since Christmas is coming up, I thought I'd ask for another lens. After reading through this thread, I got excited about the "nifty fifty." However... the Nikon 50mm f/1.8D AF ($125) evidently will not autofocus with the D3000. While I'm intending to learn to shoot manually, I'm not there yet. Also, a lot of what I'll be doing is shooting moving targets (like children) and I think I'll be using the autofocus frequently. It looks like the other 50mm lenses available for the Nikon D3000 start at $325-$450. That's a lot of money.

What would you recommend as a next lens choice? Should I suck it up and spend the money on one of the fancy 50mm lenses? Is there another option I should be considering?

TIA! :)

miaclear
12-01-2009, 01:08 PM
Rosebud....welcome to my boat :p I've been on the fence about that lens since I got my camera almost a year ago. I've been meaning to go into the camera shop and try out the cheaper one and see how it feels to have to focus for myself. I'm thinking since you don't have the option of zoom that controlling the focus won't seem so overwhelming. That's my hope.

ManteoChik
12-01-2009, 03:28 PM
Focus is probably a beginners most complicated thing to nail.

If you want a prime lens, I'd recommend the 50mm 1.4. If you want a zoom lens I'd recommend the Tamron 28-75 2.8.

Rosebud
12-04-2009, 01:13 PM
ManteoChik- Thank you! :)

miaclear
01-07-2010, 07:36 PM
I'm going to bring this up one more time cause I'm still pondering it. If you had a Nikon D60 would you either

1) Buy the Nikon 50mm f/1.8D AF right now. Knowing it doesn't autofocus.
2) Save for the Nikon 50mm f/1.4 AF-S, knowing it could be summer before you get it.

This would be only my second lens and I'm itching to try something new. I want to get the most bang for my buck, but I also want to get the better lens.

jesseybell
01-08-2010, 10:25 AM
I would end up getting the 1.8 now, because, well because I just bought a bunch of stuff for my Rebel Xsi - I can't believe it has been 2 years and I haven't gotten around to it. And I can't believe they've been in my house for 2 days and I haven't had a chance to open them up! I am so excited to finally have new lenses

I got:
-580 exii flash
-Canon 50mm 1.8
-Canon 55-250mm f/4-5.6

I went back and forth between the Canon 55-250 and the Tamron 28-75 and for a second I was going to buy both right now but decided to put off the Tamron since I've got some expenses coming up that I could use the $420 for. Hopefully after our refund I can get it. But between now and then I can play with the 50mm and then take the telephoto outdoors which is why I bought that one. And then someday I'll buy the 50mm 1.4 as well. And, well, a whole lot more. But the above will keep me busy for a while.

taffers
01-08-2010, 02:07 PM
miaclear: I'm a total beginner, and I just got the 50mm/1.8 in early December. I have the D60 as well. Although it is really hard to learn how to focus properly, I do LOVE the lens. It takes such professional looking pictures. I notice when I upload the photos, and I'm looking at them on iphoto, some are unfocused that looked focused to me when I was taking them. I've been practicing by doing "photoshoots" with DD where I just take 50 pictures at once. It's SO cool how the shutter is so fast with that lens! Oh, and you can take great pictures even in low light...it's so fun!

The only time it's really a bummer is when you grab the camera to take a quick picture of the baby, and you miss the opportunity because you're fiddling with trying to focus the d@mn lens! I try to remember to put the kit lens back on, but I often forget.

miaclear
01-08-2010, 08:48 PM
Taffers.....you're making me want it now, but you're also making me think I should get the 1.4 option. Ughghhg the agony :p

miaclear
01-09-2010, 06:40 AM
Can anyone give some thoughts on the Nikon 35mm f/1.8G AF-S DX? The price is more in line with what I can spend right now (under $250). The reviews on Amazon all seem to be great.

alliekat75
01-11-2010, 06:54 PM
[raises hand!]

Hi ladies,
I am a proud D60 owner and just received the 35mm for Christmas. It came highly recommended from someone at Ritz Camera, over the 50mm. I love, love, love, love it. It is an adjustment, not having any zoom, but it's well worth it. It's very sharp. You will not be disappointed.

Good luck!

Nakakna
01-13-2010, 10:07 AM
Hi photographers! I was hoping for some advice!

I have a Canon DSLR and a few lenses I share with my husband, but I haven't really gotten into taking many photos. I've been thinking of being more serious with taking photos and try to make it into a fun hobby! But I struggle with a few things.

1 - I'm afraid to miss out on activities while taking pictures of it! Like at my daughter's birthday. I could have been taking pictures, but then I feel like I'm not talking with people, and spending time with my daughter. How do you balance that? Or is that just something I'll have to get used to?

2 - I struggle with getting in focus pictures of my DD (cuz she moves so fast) and my pup when I'm indoors (especially when it gets dark so quickly). I up the ISO (and get quite a lot of noise). But then it's still either too dark, or bright but out of focus (when I play with the f-stop and speed). Or it's really really yellow. Will that just be practice?

3 - While it's fun to take pictures of my kid and dog, I want to take pictures of other things too, but I feel like I have nothing to take pictures of! I feel like my house is boring, my backyard is definitely boring, and my neighborhood is a regular ol' neighborhood with nothing to take pictures of. How do you find inspiration?

4 - We put all our photos into Aperature on the Mac. I also play with some of my shots on Photoshop. Where do you keep your photoshopped pictures? And do you keep your originals too? Seems like a ton of pictures to keep and things are getting out of hand on our laptop!

5 - And what is your go-to lens/walk-around lens/lens you can't live without?

Thanks for any help you can give me!

miaclear
01-17-2010, 12:45 PM
I got the 35mm! Thanks for the push alliekat :) I also talked to a pro-photographer friend who recommended it. I should get it next week!!!

Nakakna...
1- I just usually have my camera around my neck and am not afraid to break from a conversation to use it. At my kid's birthday I'll make sure to get a prime spot for important activities, but I also try to make a point to "hide" in a corner and take some shots of him doing his thing with his friends. I'll do that for 10 min or so and then get back to the party. And usually the last thing my son is looking for when there's kids and cake at hand is me :p

3- I've struggled with this also but now that I have 3 kids I haven't had time to worry about it. Back when I had time though I tried a project where I'd pick a color for the week and try to find objects that were that color and photograph them. So even if it might only be a banana, if the color is yellow it was worth the picture. Or even if it was only brown, the football was the focus. Generally I'd find these objects when my son was using them...eating a banana, playing catch. So instead of focusing on him I'd make the object the centerpiece for the picture.

4- I keep a folder for the year in my pictures folder, then one for each month, then inside that I'll have a folder "good ones" folder. I put all pictures for the month in that folder, and then the ones that I really like and edit on I'll put in the "good ones" folder. I will keep the original in the month folder. Maybe not the best way for everyone but it works for me.

miaclear
01-17-2010, 03:51 PM
Question: Can anyone recommend a good photography magazine? Something generic?

Camdynlyn
01-24-2010, 10:22 PM
Hi all! Just thought I'd pop on and say I'm on Clickinmoms.com as well! :)

kristin
01-25-2010, 10:40 AM
Any thoughts on the Canon G10? A friend of mine has one and I tried it out - it seems to take great pics and I had zero issues with lighting. I currently have an Olympus Evolt - it's about 4 years old, I have not taken great care of it, and the lighting is totally off. I took it to a camera shop and they told me it was just old and needed to be replaced. Although I purchased it with the intent to use the manual setting (I have all the books :rolleyes:) I've never done so. I just do not have the patience or time right now to figure it out.

The thing I do like about the SLR is that there is no shutter delay. The reviews I've read on the Canon G10 state there is no shutter delay, but it is a point and shoot, so I wonder. I also like that it is more compact and I could keep it in my dipaer bag, instead of lugging around a big camera case.

So should I go for the Canon G10 or another SLR? TIA!

ManteoChik
01-25-2010, 11:34 AM
The G10 is a great camera. The camera is designed to be an upper end P&S offering the same functions of a DSLR w/ shooting manual, but without the bulk of a DSLR or the option to change lenses.

The "series (G9, G10, G11) is like the go-to P&S for a lot of professional photographers. I've never been much of a P&S user, because I'm too much of a control freak not to shoot in Manual but I think this is going to be my next purchase. :)

kristin
01-25-2010, 09:30 PM
Manteochik - Thanks so much for the feedback. I think I'm going to give the Canon G10 a shot since I found it at a great price. I can always upgrade to an SLR later when I have more time to figure it out.

Thanks again!

Lizzy
01-26-2010, 02:10 PM
I'm looking for a decent but inexpensive tripod. I was told not to get a cheapo tripod since they are lightweight and that's not necessarily good when holding an expensive camera. Any recommendations?

taffers
01-30-2010, 06:14 PM
Why does this happen all the time??!! What am I doing wrong? I was taking pictures of our bathroom (which was lit very bright) with my Nikon D60 kit lens. If I use "program" with no flash, the pictures come out with a yellow tint. If I use "auto" with a flash, they come out overexposed. I like the professional studio look, so I tend to not use my flash whenever possible, but then they are yellowish. Help! Here are the examples:

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c87/taffers/DSC_1068.jpghttp://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c87/taffers/DSC_1067.jpg

Grenouille
01-30-2010, 06:26 PM
Taffers, I'm not a photography expert by any means, but I do have a Nikon and have figured out a few things. I'd check your white balance settings. For an indoor shot with "regular" lights you will want to set WB to "incandescent" and if you want to use flash, set it to "flash". White balance pretty much compensates for whatever color is missing in certain lighting. Yours is probably set to "auto" and that's ok, but manually setting it for each location is better.

Also, if you find that you need a flash because you are often taking photos indoors, an external flash isn't as harsh as a built-in flash. I'm very happy with the bottom-of-the-line Nikon flash. You can "bounce" the flash by tilting it up so there isn't a direct "flash" light on your photo. My photos don't have that overexposed "flash" look you described when I use the external flash.

taffers
01-30-2010, 07:56 PM
Thanks Grenouille! What flash do you have? Maybe I can buy it on Amazon?

Grenouille
01-30-2010, 08:10 PM
I have this one (http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-SB-400-Speedlight-Digital-Cameras/dp/B000KKPN5C/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1264910786&sr=8-3):

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41V67D1TNWL._AA200_.jpg

Looking at the photo it looks like it doesn't tilt, but the actual little flash bar *does* tilt so you can bounce it off the ceiling or wall. A more expensive flash is going to do it better, and will work better in larger spaces, but this is perfect for amateur use, IMO.

taffers
01-30-2010, 09:14 PM
Thank you! And I tried switching the white balance, and it absolutely worked!!

Grenouille
01-30-2010, 10:49 PM
Yay! Glad I could help! :)

kristin
02-04-2010, 07:23 PM
Any recommendations for WHERE to purchase a camera. I've decided to go with the Canon G10 (thanks, Manteochik!) and tried it out at my local camera shop, but they are asking about $100 more than amazon.com.

I was almost had by this website www.closeoutisland.com. They had insanely good prices, but the reviews are awful. I'd like to stick with a reputable company and buy online to avoid the insane CA sales tax (almost 10%).

Also, when purchasing a new camera, what other accessories do I need to buy? Anything besides a memory card and battery? What size memory card should I get?

RobynScott
02-05-2010, 09:18 PM
Hi all,

I am still looking for an entry-level DSLR, and hoping to get one before #2 arrives, recognizing that I will start out on auto and then hopefully advance to learning how to really use my camera.

Here's my quest. - I am looking at the Nikon D3000 (was looking at the D60 last year), and the Canon XS, XSi or Ti1 (I think those are the right Canon's - I had been more focused on Nikon's). I know with the Nikon, the auto-focus motor is not built into the body of the camera so you need to buy more $$ lenses if you want the AF built in (which I do). Is the same true of the Canon models? I was equally comfortable (I think) with either body, so if one has less $$ lenses (less $$ down the road) - I may head that direction.

Also, should I start with the kit lens or something else? Do I need photo editing software? And I think I need another external hard drive. I have one, but I think it is currently set as a back up - I need something to transfer pictures to off of my laptop b/c I am running out of room, and I'm sure the bigger files from a DSLR won't help matters any.

Appreciate any/all advice - hoping for some president's day sales! (which ties into Kristin's question as well - where to buy from?)

taffers
02-05-2010, 09:57 PM
Where to buy: I've bought electronics on Amazon. They always have great prices, and I trust them. If they have the lowest price on the camera you want, I'd get it there. I got my Nikon D60 at Costco (came with 2 lenses and a case). They had the best deal at the time, and if possible, I always buy things like that at Costco because of their return policy (which is now totally different and more stringent unfortunately :( ).

Robyn: Do you have a Mac? If so, I would say as a beginner, you definitely don't need editing software. Iphoto has been perfect for me. However, when I only had a PC, I almost bought Photoshop because I couldn't do anything! Either way, you may want to wait until you are familiar with the camera and shooting with a DSLR before buying any software. I'm still totally a beginner, but it's fun to learn!

jesseybell
02-06-2010, 04:39 AM
I bought my Xsi at buydig.com a couple of years ago - I got it with the kit lens and they had a good package with extra battery, filter, memory card, case.

I just recently bought my Canon 50mm 1.8, Canon flash, and Canon 55-250mm at Amazon - they definitely had the most reasonable prices.


I used to take graphic design classes so I had a copy of Photoshop 5 I think. I was never very good at it. My dad suggested I get Photoshop Elements 7 (8 is out now) and it is so much easier. I think I got it for $80.

I did end up getting an external hard drive about a year ago for around $100 - Even with a 50 GB hard drive, it was quickly taken up (plus it is my work computer - we don't have a home computer so I was afraid of losing everything) - Now I only keep the best pictures from the last year on my computer.

RobynScott
02-06-2010, 05:39 AM
Thanks for the advice. I do only have a PC, but I'm not rushing out to get anything. I have a 500GB external drive already, but since it's set as a backup, I haven't figured out how to keep it as just an external drive where I can move stuff off of my computer.
<--- technically challenged!

Ellyn
02-07-2010, 05:42 AM
I bought my NIkon D 80 over a year ago on Amazon. Also bought a 50mm lens just this past Christmas from Amazon. Both are great! No problems from amazon.com :)

mmm
02-07-2010, 08:53 AM
I've bought most of my stuff at Adorama, and always had great prices & service from them :)

WisWis
02-08-2010, 01:40 PM
I've made most of my camera purchases on Amazon and I've been really happy with all of them.

I also just traded up to a G10 for my p&s (love the Canon loyalty program) and it's great! DH is traveling for the next two weeks so I let him take it along. I regret it even though it was the nice thing to do!

cosmic
02-09-2010, 07:11 AM
I've always gotten my cameras from Amazon, even my lo-fi toy cameras.

Just spotted this article from the New York Times: The Best Cameras for $300 and Under (http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work/article/108771/best-cameras-for-$300-or-less?mod=family-home)

Wrighty26
02-09-2010, 07:35 AM
I've been lurking in this thread for a while. It helped me when I was buying my DSLR -- and has definitely taught me a lot about photography basics :)


I know with the Nikon, the auto-focus motor is not built into the body of the camera so you need to buy more $$ lenses if you want the AF built in (which I do). Is the same true of the Canon models?

No, the same is not true for Canon. I have the XS and my 50mm lens has AF. One of the reasons I bought a Canon over the Nikon was that the lenses are slightly less. 50mm Nikon is $125 and the Canon is typically between $90-100.


Also, should I start with the kit lens or something else?
Lenses are probably the most addicting part of owning a DSLR! There's always going to be one out there that you want (at least that's what I've found). As a beginner, I definitely recommend getting a 50mm lens. It has really helped me "learn" how to use my camera. The lens kit is OK, but once I got my 50mm lens I stopped using the lens kit! Now I want a "better" zoom lens :)


Do I need photo editing software?
You don't NEED it, but it's really fun to play around with once you have high quality pictures. I have Photoshop Elements 6 on my home computer and it works just fine. I've recently found a lot of free actions that mimic Photoshop CS.

Where to buy
I shopped around for the best price. For me, it happened to be Best Buy online (the price was different in the store and if I had found a lower price they would have matched it). I did buy my lens from Amazon - they have some really great prices. They also sell stuff from B&H (which is very reputable).

miaclear
02-09-2010, 08:41 AM
The lens kit is OK, but once I got my 50mm lens I stopped using the lens kit! Now I want a "better" zoom lens :)


You don't NEED it, but it's really fun to play around with once you have high quality pictures. I have Photoshop Elements 6 on my home computer and it works just fine. I've recently found a lot of free actions that mimic Photoshop CS.

I shopped around for the best price. For me, it happened to be Best Buy online (the price was different in the store and if I had found a lower price they would have matched it). I did buy my lens from Amazon - they have some really great prices. They also sell stuff from B&H (which is very reputable).

Agree agree agree. I actually got a 35mm prime lens recently and love it. And now am really wanting a great zoom lens. And I recently got Elements as well and find there is PLENTY you can do in there for editing. I bought a book to help me navigate elements but there are a lot of online tutorials you can find as well. And when it came to buying my 33mm lens I found Best Buy Outlet (online) had the best deal. In fact the majority of online stores were sold out and Amazon was not the best deal.

mmm
02-10-2010, 09:28 AM
Anyone have any suggestions for a good macro lens? A friend has been updating her blog with some amazing macro shots from her garden. photo envy!!
(I have Nikon d80)

miaclear
02-15-2010, 07:49 AM
I wanted to share a new photography blog I'm following. It's actually my wedding photographers new blog. Him and I go way back to high school but he is super talented and was just voted one of the top MN photographers by wedding channel dot com (can I still say that name on here :p). He's been hired to photograph weddings nationwide, as well as a few worldwide sites! He was pretty big locally when he did my wedding and now I can say "I knew him when". I probably wouldn't be able to afford him now...haha.

It's not a blog of his recent work (vada-voom.com) but a blog about the process of being a photographer and such. Something I think a lot of you who post here would like. His latest post which I haven't watched yet is a video of his editing process.


http://www.photographyconfessions.com/

Grenouille
02-15-2010, 11:00 AM
Anyone have an opinion on the Tamron 28-75 2.8 lens or the Sigma 24-70 2.8 lens for Nikon cameras? I'm looking for something that covers that middle distance range, has a low aperture, and is sharp but also has a nice bokeh, and both of these fit the bill. Is one better than the other in some way? The Tamron is less expensive, but is there a reason behind that? I have a Nikon D50, so I don't need a lens with and internal focus. Thanks!!

ManteoChik
02-15-2010, 04:36 PM
Anyone have an opinion on the Tamron 28-75 2.8 lens or the Sigma 24-70 2.8 lens for Nikon cameras? I'm looking for something that covers that middle distance range, has a low aperture, and is sharp but also has a nice bokeh, and both of these fit the bill. Is one better than the other in some way? The Tamron is less expensive, but is there a reason behind that? I have a Nikon D50, so I don't need a lens with and internal focus. Thanks!!

The Tamron is a great lens, I'd highly recommend it. I'm a Canon shooter, so I can't say anything about the Nikon version - although my Nikon shooting photog friends say it's just as good for them too. Never bought Sigma, so no input there. :)

BooeyJ2
02-15-2010, 07:10 PM
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klanae
03-18-2010, 07:51 AM
I just got my boys pictures done at the beginning of the month from a professional photographer. I purchased the image cd which gives me the copyright to all the pictures and was wondering if there is any specific websites you use that print professional quality pictures?

ManteoChik
03-18-2010, 08:08 AM
I just got my boys pictures done at the beginning of the month from a professional photographer. I purchased the image cd which gives me the copyright to all the pictures and was wondering if there is any specific websites you use that print professional quality pictures?

Read your contract/release carefully. Most likely it is actually a Print Release, not a Copyright Release. Most all photographers do not give a copyright release, because they means that they no longer own the images - where as a print release is giving you the right to print for personal use.

As for printing, I'd recommend mpix.com.

klanae
03-18-2010, 09:00 AM
Manteo- You are correct it is a printing right not copyright. Does this mean I cannot post them on a place like a facebook?

Also, what kind of paper do you suggest I have the photos printed on? Thanks for all your help.

ManteoChik
03-18-2010, 10:17 AM
Manteo- You are correct it is a printing right not copyright. Does this mean I cannot post them on a place like a facebook?

Also, what kind of paper do you suggest I have the photos printed on? Thanks for all your help.

No, I would imagine you could still post them on facebook - at least my release allows that. If they are not watermarked with a logo, you should give credit to the photographer whenever you post an image. Mostly a print release is letting you make copies for personal, non-commercial use. Meaning that the photographer still OWNS the images, but has given you the right to print copies for yourself. It essentially means that you can't claim them as your own, sell them, or enter them into any photo contests, etc.

The regular e-surface paper is probably what you'll want to print on. It's your standard matte paper. This renders the most natural, true color. They also offer a pearl paper, which has a bit of a glossy finish with a bit of a metallic look to it - it tends to be vibrant which doesn't always work with all photos.

If you aren't in a hurry, I'd suggest ordering a free paper sample from them. I'll be honest it's been many years since I've ordered through them as I use my lab for everything including personal pictures but you'll find that mpix is the consumer lab associated with a couple bigger labs for professionals.

miaclear
04-26-2010, 09:22 AM
I am so frustrated with my photographer! She did a great job on my girls' 5 month pics and we decided to use her again for their 1 year and family pictures. So I emailed her Tuesday morning and late Wed evening she emailed me giving me her days available. I asked her a question about times, and I'm still waiting to hear back! It's Monday now! Last night I re-emailed her phrasing my question a little different trying not to sound upset. But I just have this feeling once you upset the photographer they are not going to give you 100%. I don't want to cross that road but I'm about ready to pull the plug on this. My girls turn 1 in like 2.5 weeks! I need to find another photographer quick!

Problem is my husband would want to use an old friend who started a photography business, she's really reasonable for prices....problem is I think her pictures suck. Like really bad. I take better pictures than her...problem there is I can't take a picture of myself :p

I feel stuck and sick about the whole thing. I'm friends with my photographer on FB and she's online posting all the time, so I know she's got access to the computer and is around and there's no family emergency or anything. Ugh.

This is the second photographer I've had who's pictures I really really like but who's business mgmt practices seem like they could use some work. What is up with that? In my mind if you are unable to respond in a 24 hour period you should have an out of office reply. Is that too much to ask???? You're running a business for Pete's sake!

For those of you who run a photog business what is your guideline on replying to customers?

ETA: I just knew if I posted this she'd reply to my email (not that she reads here....just Murphy's Law)...and she did! Whew. I was giving her till noon tomorrow.

CarolinaGirl
04-27-2010, 06:08 AM
I haven't read the whole thread but I did a search, so if this has already been covered, please forgive!!

I've been using Photoshop Elements 7 on my pc to edit and enhance. I usually use the healing brush tool and the auto smart fix options for color, brightness, sharpness, etc. I've just started using a mac. Should I buy the mac version of PSE or is there another software that is better?

ManteoChik
04-28-2010, 02:53 PM
I am so frustrated with my photographer! She did a great job on my girls' 5 month pics and we decided to use her again for their 1 year and family pictures. So I emailed her Tuesday morning and late Wed evening she emailed me giving me her days available. I asked her a question about times, and I'm still waiting to hear back! It's Monday now! Last night I re-emailed her phrasing my question a little different trying not to sound upset. But I just have this feeling once you upset the photographer they are not going to give you 100%. I don't want to cross that road but I'm about ready to pull the plug on this. My girls turn 1 in like 2.5 weeks! I need to find another photographer quick!

Problem is my husband would want to use an old friend who started a photography business, she's really reasonable for prices....problem is I think her pictures suck. Like really bad. I take better pictures than her...problem there is I can't take a picture of myself :p

I feel stuck and sick about the whole thing. I'm friends with my photographer on FB and she's online posting all the time, so I know she's got access to the computer and is around and there's no family emergency or anything. Ugh.

This is the second photographer I've had who's pictures I really really like but who's business mgmt practices seem like they could use some work. What is up with that? In my mind if you are unable to respond in a 24 hour period you should have an out of office reply. Is that too much to ask???? You're running a business for Pete's sake!

For those of you who run a photog business what is your guideline on replying to customers?

ETA: I just knew if I posted this she'd reply to my email (not that she reads here....just Murphy's Law)...and she did! Whew. I was giving her till noon tomorrow.

I'm glad you were able to finally get up with her. Who knows what her problem could be. Has she always been this bad at responding to e-mails?

For me, I always try to respond within 24 hours. The exception would be the weekends. I take the weekends off like anyone else would, and if you e-mail on a Friday afternoon/evening you probably won't hear back from me until Monday. Same thing goes for phone calls. I think a lot of people forget that just because you work from home, doesn't mean you sit in your office at all times working around the clock. That being said, I think the length of time it took her to get back to you is just unacceptable. Along the same lines, it's usually mid day Monday by the time I've made it through all my return phone calls/emails. Nothing is more irritating than having someone call you on Friday night and first thing Monday morning demanding why you haven't responded..lol.

On another note, I just have to say KUDOS to you for recognizing quality over price! It is SO refreshing to see someone value photography and choose a photographer because they like their work, not just because they are a friend with cheap prices. I can't tell you how frustrated photographers get seeing people with no experience starting photography businesses with cheap prices and bad photos - all their friends flock to them.

I'd say just keep on top of her and make sure you have a contract. It should clearly state a time frame for you to receive your images.

ManteoChik
04-28-2010, 02:55 PM
I haven't read the whole thread but I did a search, so if this has already been covered, please forgive!!

I've been using Photoshop Elements 7 on my pc to edit and enhance. I usually use the healing brush tool and the auto smart fix options for color, brightness, sharpness, etc. I've just started using a mac. Should I buy the mac version of PSE or is there another software that is better?

Not sure about elements with but all other Adobe products (PS, etc) you can do a cross platform switch.

If you feel like you're proficient in Elements, you can always upgrade to Photoshop. If you're happy with what you've got you can do the platform switch or just buy it for your mac if you want to keep it on your PC.

Lizzy
04-28-2010, 03:52 PM
It is SO refreshing to see someone value photography and choose a photographer because they like their work, not just because they are a friend with cheap prices. I can't tell you how frustrated photographers get seeing people with no experience starting photography businesses with cheap prices and bad photos - all their friends flock to them.


I'm not a pro by any means - still very much an amateur, but I have to echo what you are saying. I have taken one photography class and it really was eye-opening; I am now so critical of supposed professionals and their photos! I imagine that it is really frustrating for a true professional.

ManteoChik
04-28-2010, 04:45 PM
I'm not a pro by any means - still very much an amateur, but I have to echo what you are saying. I have taken one photography class and it really was eye-opening; I am now so critical of supposed professionals and their photos! I imagine that it is really frustrating for a true professional.

I love hearing people who think this way. :) For those of us professionals (and even talented amateurs working to become a pro) we put a lot of time and money to perfect our trade. We're constantly attending trade shows, workshops, and doing other things to learn and continually grow. It's really disheartening to see people line up for their friends who randomly start a business, because often times those people haven't put any effort into becoming a better photographer.

CarolinaGirl
04-28-2010, 06:36 PM
Not sure about elements with but all other Adobe products (PS, etc) you can do a cross platform switch.

Huh?

Sorry, I am so new to mac that I'm not sure I know what a "cross platform switch" is. I know there is a photoshop elements version for mac and there is aperture. That is all I know, so please explain in terms for a pc dummy.

ManteoChik
04-29-2010, 05:12 AM
Huh?

Sorry, I am so new to mac that I'm not sure I know what a "cross platform switch" is. I know there is a photoshop elements version for mac and there is aperture. That is all I know, so please explain in terms for a pc dummy.

A cross platform switch is when you call up Adobe and tell them you bought a Mac and you'd like to transfer your license to Mac. They will send you the Mac version (either for free or a very small cost, depending on the program) but you have to remove it from your other computer.

It's up to you which route you want to go. Elements is so cheap ($69 from the website now) that I wouldn't hassle with a platform switch and just buy it outright.

The main reason most people to a platform switch is that Photoshop, own it's own or as part of the Creative Suite (CS) is very expensive and most people can't afford to spend $1200 on a program for their PC and another when they move to Mac.

Standard (just) Photoshop is about $700. If you buy it as part of the Creative Suite (like CS5) you're looking at about $1200. I think CS5 is far beyond what you need. Photoshop is definitely going to be superior to Elements but it really depends on what you're goal is with it. If you're only doing basic edits for personal use, I'd say stick with Elements. If you feel you've outgrown what it has to offer, move to Photoshop.

Do you know any students, or are you a teacher? You can buy from places like Academic Superstore (http://www.academicsuperstore.com/) you can get Photoshop for $200. You have to show proof of being a student, teacher, or educator.

CarolinaGirl
04-29-2010, 10:53 AM
Thanks! Didn't realize you could use the same software on a mac without buying a new one. So much to learn with this mac.

ManteoChik
04-29-2010, 06:35 PM
Thanks! Didn't realize you could use the same software on a mac without buying a new one. So much to learn with this mac.

Well, you can't use the *same* software. They will need to send you the Mac version - they just consider it a "cross platform switch". You are supposed to remove/destroy the other copy.

taffers
05-04-2010, 10:11 PM
I keep reading and reading, but it seems to lead me to more questions!

(1) What do you use a lens hood for? When do you need it?

(2) Everyone seems to say overcast days are better for taking photos, and if it's sunny, they look for shady spots to take pictures, but when I take pictures in shady spots they don't usually turn out too well. Why do you want overcast days or shady areas?

ManteoChik
05-05-2010, 07:33 PM
I keep reading and reading, but it seems to lead me to more questions!

(1) What do you use a lens hood for? When do you need it?

(2) Everyone seems to say overcast days are better for taking photos, and if it's sunny, they look for shady spots to take pictures, but when I take pictures in shady spots they don't usually turn out too well. Why do you want overcast days or shady areas?

I always use the lens hood that comes with my camera. I break them frequently when I'm shooting on the fly (especially weddings when I'm switching lenses a lot) and always have to order replacements - check out B&H or Adorama. Did your lenses not come with a hood?

Overcast days are great for shooting - the clouds are like one giant softbox. :) Do you shoot manual or auto? When you shoot auto the camera is making all the decisions, and usually it doesn't make the right ones. ;) When you shoot manual you control the settings and tell the camera what to do to get the shot you want. Chances are you're putting people in the shade, so while they are shaded the background is still bright. Your camera's meter is reading the background and not exposing for the people. Really the only way to get the results you want is to shoot manual and just really study ISO/Aperture/F-stops so you know what they do - and more importantly how they work together to achieve the look you want.

Lizzy
05-05-2010, 07:39 PM
Everyone seems to say overcast days are better for taking photos, and if it's sunny, they look for shady spots to take pictures, but when I take pictures in shady spots they don't usually turn out too well. Why do you want overcast days or shady areas?

Shade is good because you want consistent lighting throughout the photo - otherwise it looks spotty. Under the sun is too harsh, not to mention that you don't want your subjects squinting their eyes! It's hard to say why your pics aren't turning out well, but for me personally it's usually because I forget to adjust my ISO.

taffers
05-05-2010, 08:42 PM
Did your lenses not come with a hood?

Yes, they did, but I just don't understand what they are for and why you use them?


Overcast days are great for shooting - the clouds are like one giant softbox. :) Do you shoot manual or auto?

99.99% of the time I shoot in Program, so a bit better than auto (I never shoot in auto), but definitely not as good as manual! I just seem to get frustrated when I shoot in manual, but I know I need to practice more with it.


Shade is good because you want consistent lighting throughout the photo - otherwise it looks spotty. Under the sun is too harsh, not to mention that you don't want your subjects squinting their eyes! It's hard to say why your pics aren't turning out well, but for me personally it's usually because I forget to adjust my ISO.

I do tend to always keep my ISO pretty high and forget to adjust it! Kind of like how I constantly leave my white balance on incandescent, then take 10 pictures in natural light before I realize they are all blue! Grr.

TracieB
05-06-2010, 06:26 AM
Hi Taffers! I have only used the hood on sunny days, and I didn't really notice any difference in my shots, so I've stopped using it. I vaguely recall being told that one time, so that's what I've always done.

Are you shooting with a Nikon or Canon? For me, shooting manual on Canon has been easier, because there's a graph (?? I don't know what it's called. It's a bunch of these |||||||||||||), and I know that if the little line is in the middle, it's going to be perfectly exposed. I personally like sun shots, as long as you can get the sun coming from the side, not directly above or straight behind.

Just do a lot of playing around to figure it all out. When I first got my DSLR, I set up a vase and took shot after shot, going stop to stop to see the difference.

taffers
05-06-2010, 07:34 AM
Thanks TB! I shoot with a Nikon, and I have used the meter (the lines ;) ) with manual, but I always figured that whatever the meter shows is exactly what program would choose as the settings anyway so it's the same difference, and I would need to change the settings in manual from what the meter tells me is 'right', but I'm probably wrong! I've done that too taking picture after picture of one thing!!!!! But there are just so many possible combinations of shutter and aperture...like if I'm just adjusting aperture, I can do it, but then when I'm choosing both, it gets crazy! I know, I need practice and more practice.

ManteoChik
05-06-2010, 08:49 AM
Typically a lens hood is used to help prevent lens flare. Also, most people use their lens hood to help protect the front of the lens. Some people use them, some people don't. I always use mine as I shoot on the beach a lot.

As for the in camera meter - that's when shooting in Manual is important. You could take 5 of the SAME camera out on the SAME day and photograph the SAME shot with the SAME settings....and you're picture would look different with each of them. The in camera meter is not always right so it's important to know how your particular camera handles light. Some cameras underexpose a bit, even when the meter is spot on what the camera says is the correct exposure.

I always suggest to take your camera out and shoot the same scene three times. Set it up and shoot a picture with the camera's meter directly in the center (what the camera tells you is a proper exposure). Then shoot another shot of the same thing, but this time overexpose by a stop. Finally, shoot a third shot underexposing by a stop. Upload your images and see which one looks best. Do this for several different subjects in several different lighting conditions. After you do it enough, you'll start to recognize how your camera handles different lighting situations. You might find that when shooting in shade you need to overexpose by a full or half stop to get the kind of exposure you want.

taffers
05-06-2010, 10:00 AM
Thanks Manteo! That is a really good idea- I think I'll do that. Not to turn this into a photography lesson (although I really appreciate your advice!), but when you say over or under expose by a stop, do you change both the shutter speed and aperture to make the meter show it as being over/under exposed or do you just change one or the other? i.e. so say it says the camera says proper exposure is shutter 1/640 and aperture of 1.8. Do I keep it at 1.8 and move shutter up/down or move both up/down? It's just confusing to me because I just tried it (with aperture at 1.8), and the meter stayed center (so supposedly properly exposed) all the way from shutter of 1/640 to 1/40 (when it finally showed it as being underexposed)...how is that possible (btw 1/50, 1/60, 1/80, etc pretty much look the same)?

Feel free to ignore my questions...I'm sure you're busy! ;)

ManteoChik
05-06-2010, 10:57 AM
Thanks Manteo! That is a really good idea- I think I'll do that. Not to turn this into a photography lesson (although I really appreciate your advice!), but when you say over or under expose by a stop, do you change both the shutter speed and aperture to make the meter show it as being over/under exposed or do you just change one or the other? i.e. so say it says the camera says proper exposure is shutter 1/640 and aperture of 1.8. Do I keep it at 1.8 and move shutter up/down or move both up/down? It's just confusing to me because I just tried it (with aperture at 1.8), and the meter stayed center (so supposedly properly exposed) all the way from shutter of 1/640 to 1/40 (when it finally showed it as being underexposed)...how is that possible (btw 1/50, 1/60, 1/80, etc pretty much look the same)?

Feel free to ignore my questions...I'm sure you're busy! ;)

Well, I usually adjust my ISO. Unless I'm shooting a large group, I tend to shoot wide open (2.8, depending on the lens). I also know how low I can let my shutter speed go to comfortably hand hold my camera w/out camera shake. Because of that, I set my shutter speed and aperture, and adjust my ISO to compensate for needing more or less light.

Of course that's not always the case - and I feel it's more important to adjust your aperture rather than shutter speed. Often times people go much slower than they should and that can result in blurry pictures from camera shake. On the flip side - shooting wide open, people without a steady hand often miss their focus.

ETA: In the example you gave. If it tells you you're shutter speed is 1/640 and your shooting at f/1.8 - assuming 1.8 is wide open for your lens, you'll either need to lower your shutter speed..or up your ISO.

ETA #2...lol: Feel free to post some pictures with your settings if you want, because it can be easier to see what the problem is when seeing a photo. What ISO are you shooting at? And what type of image are you photographing?

taffers
05-07-2010, 08:39 AM
I do tend to get blur because I'll have the shutter too low due to low light.

I'll do your exercise and post the pics. :)

I'm almost always shooting now with a 35mm 1.8 lens (sometimes with my 50mm 1.8 but it's not autofocus on my camera so even though I like it better than my 35mm since it's sharper, I can't use it as much since I'm usually shooting the dog or the baby, and I don't have time to fiddle with focusing!). Sometimes the ISO is on the "auto" setting, otherwise, I try to have it on 400, but often I up it to 800 and forget to put it lower.

taffers
05-08-2010, 05:23 PM
Ok I took a bunch of pictures today and wrote down the settings. I do get why shooting in the shade is better, but it was hard to get it bright enough! All taken with my 50mm 1.8 lens.

A series of these in Program mode with shutter 1/320 and aperture F9 (as you can see they are totally dark, and I just don't understand how my camera could think that was the proper exposure??!!).
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c87/taffers/DSC_2922.jpg

These I took in Aperture mode so the shutter was decided for me. I chose aperture 1.8 and shutter was 1/4000 (the lighting is clearly much better but still all look different).
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c87/taffers/DSC_2926.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c87/taffers/DSC_2932.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c87/taffers/DSC_2933.jpg

I moved her to direct sunlight, and shot in Program mode again, which set itself at 1/500 and F11 (yucky- is there a way to get a good direct sunlight shot?).
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c87/taffers/DSC_2946.jpg

taffers
05-08-2010, 05:23 PM
Program mode again 1/200 and F7.1 (same shade as the first picture, but program chose different settings).
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c87/taffers/DSC_2949.jpg

Program mode in same shade, but I was farther away- 1/320 and F10 (obviously my "subject" was way too dark).
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c87/taffers/DSC_2966.jpg

Program mode with them in the exact same position as above, but I was closer- 1/160 and F6.3.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c87/taffers/DSC_2971.jpg

I shot this in Manual mode, and I chose 1/320 and F2.8 (is this one ok?)
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c87/taffers/DSC_2976.jpg

Mystikal
07-07-2010, 07:47 PM
I just purchased a Canon Rebel Xs today. I am a total novice when it comes to DSLR's/manual focus/etc. I have only ever used a point and shoot. However, I've always dreamt of being a photographer, and my wonderfully supportive DH believes I can do it. First step is to learn wtf I'm doing and how to use the damn camera! lol.

I plan on going back through the first thread to get as much information as possible, besides the books that have been recommended in this thread alone, can anyone suggest any (free) websites with good information on understanding ISO/f-stops/aperture/etc?

taffers
05-10-2011, 01:34 PM
Any new recommendations for a good quality P&S or DLSR that is small? I need one to throw in my purse and keep there all the time because I'm getting lazy and keep leaving my DSLR at home. The problem is that I always hate the quality of the P&S photos (I currently have the Panasonic Lumix, and I'm not happy with it)...you get so spoiled when your primary camera is a DSLR with good lenses! I know the Canon G series is always recommended, but I think it's over $500 and I don't want to go over $400...I'd like to stay around $300 or under if possible since it will just be jumbled in my purse with all my other cr@p!

Thanks!

ManteoChik
05-10-2011, 04:42 PM
Any new recommendations for a good quality P&S or DLSR that is small? I need one to throw in my purse and keep there all the time because I'm getting lazy and keep leaving my DSLR at home. The problem is that I always hate the quality of the P&S photos (I currently have the Panasonic Lumix, and I'm not happy with it)...you get so spoiled when your primary camera is a DSLR with good lenses! I know the Canon G series is always recommended, but I think it's over $500 and I don't want to go over $400...I'd like to stay around $300 or under if possible since it will just be jumbled in my purse with all my other cr@p!

Thanks!

Adorama currently has a Canon G11 in the used department with a "D" rating - which means "Demo". $399 - which is a really good deal!

http://www.adorama.com/US%20%20%20%20438393.html

looch
05-11-2011, 04:58 AM
taffers, I had the same issue, I hate lugging around our big camera bag now that we also have to deal with DS's stuff. So we got a small point and shoot from Canon, the Powershot SX220 HS. I believe it is similar to the SX230 but it doesn't have the geo-tagging feature.

I loved the G11 and totally wanted that one, but DH talked me out of it, saying we could just bring our regular DSLR with one lens.

Grenouille
05-12-2011, 10:39 AM
I may have asked this before, but anyone have thoughts on a good mid-range lens for a Nikon DSLR? I have a D50, and still have the kit lenses and a 50mm 1.8 that I looove but I don't love having to back waaay up to get the shots I want. I was looking at the Tamron 28-75 2.8 Xr Di Sp F/nikon Af (http://www.amazon.com/Tamron-28-75mm-Aspherical-Canon-Digital/dp/B0000A1G05/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1305174771&sr=8-1). Is this a good choice? I'd love to be able to just use one lens most of the time. I mostly take photos of my kids, so things like museum trips, going to the zoo, etc. It is a big chunk of change, but I've found a used one at (IMO) a great price, I'm just trying to make sure it is worth the hefty (to me) price.

jesseybell
05-13-2011, 08:06 AM
I may have asked this before, but anyone have thoughts on a good mid-range lens for a Nikon DSLR? I have a D50, and still have the kit lenses and a 50mm 1.8 that I looove but I don't love having to back waaay up to get the shots I want. I was looking at the Tamron 28-75 2.8 Xr Di Sp F/nikon Af (http://www.amazon.com/Tamron-28-75mm-Aspherical-Canon-Digital/dp/B0000A1G05/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1305174771&sr=8-1). Is this a good choice? I'd love to be able to just use one lens most of the time. I mostly take photos of my kids, so things like museum trips, going to the zoo, etc. It is a big chunk of change, but I've found a used one at (IMO) a great price, I'm just trying to make sure it is worth the hefty (to me) price.

I don't have that one yet, but based on reviews here and on clickinmoms, that is the lens I plan on getting when I have a spare chunk of change.

ManteoChik
05-13-2011, 11:20 AM
I may have asked this before, but anyone have thoughts on a good mid-range lens for a Nikon DSLR? I have a D50, and still have the kit lenses and a 50mm 1.8 that I looove but I don't love having to back waaay up to get the shots I want. I was looking at the Tamron 28-75 2.8 Xr Di Sp F/nikon Af (http://www.amazon.com/Tamron-28-75mm-Aspherical-Canon-Digital/dp/B0000A1G05/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1305174771&sr=8-1). Is this a good choice? I'd love to be able to just use one lens most of the time. I mostly take photos of my kids, so things like museum trips, going to the zoo, etc. It is a big chunk of change, but I've found a used one at (IMO) a great price, I'm just trying to make sure it is worth the hefty (to me) price.

The Tamron is a great choice, and was what I was immediately going to recommend before reading the end of your post. :) Are you a member of clickin' moms? If not, you should consider joining because that lens is considered a good starting lens, before people upgrade the Nikon version (24-70 2.8) - and so often you can get a great deal on one in the buy/sell section. If not, Adorama and B&H always have plenty in stock.

taffers
05-13-2011, 02:05 PM
Grenouille: The Nikon 35 mm 1.8 (http://www.amazon.com/Nikon-35mm-AF-S-Digital-Cameras/dp/B001S2PPT0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1305320616&sr=8-1) was recommended to me, and I really like it. I keep it on my camera all the time. I actually never put on the 50 anymore because it doesn't auto-focus on the D60 and the 35 does.

Grenouille
05-13-2011, 02:17 PM
I should join that Clickin Moms site. I assume I can Google it and find it?

I am considering the 35mm, but I was concerned about things like vacation or school plays, where I might want to zoom in or out.

ManteoChik
05-16-2011, 07:11 AM
I should join that Clickin Moms site. I assume I can Google it and find it?

I am considering the 35mm, but I was concerned about things like vacation or school plays, where I might want to zoom in or out.

clickinmoms.com

:)

Re:Zoom - here's the thing, a long enough zoom that will get in close enough for a school play is going to give you a couple of options. a 70-200 which will run you about $2000 - or the cheapie version which is crap and a waste of money.

If you want a zoom, I'd got with the Tamron 28-75. It's not a long zoom, but it's a great portrait lens and a great everyday lens when you need a little more distance than a short prime.

RobynScott
06-02-2011, 01:06 PM
Recommendation for a point and shoot?

My p & s died and I used Canon's Loyalty Program to get a DSLR - and I still have a LOT to learn! BUT, we are headed to Disney next week and I want to get a P & S to bring along. This will be mostly to throw in the diaper bag and take pictures of the kids / easily portable. I have pretty much only used Canon's in the past (Elphs and Powershots) - but considering I have three broken Canon P & S, I am willing to consider other brands as well. My last camera that I really liked was the SD 790. (dropped one too many times and developed a lens error)

I need to get a new camera within a week, and would like something portable, durable and that takes decent pics - especially of moving objects (kids). I've been looking online, but am somewhat overwhelmed by the options.

Suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Would prefer to keep cost at $225 or below. Thanks!

Chimichanga
06-07-2011, 06:01 PM
Hi ladies - I can't find a straight answer online, so I thought I'd try here :)

DH had bought a Tamron AF80-210mm lense for his film camera a few years ago (mabye 10 years?) Obviously digital was not as prevelant then as it is today. We're looking to sell this lens (and his Nikon as well) but can it be used on a digital camera? My thought would be yes, but I want to confirm before we list it anywhere.

TIA!