December07/January08 Mommies- Our Babies Are Here!

[January2008Moms]

Welcome to the December 2007 & January 2008 Mommy Group!
Congratulations to all our new mommies!

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gelfnrach, Jeneca128, Loud_curly, pelican75, ShannonGH

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aligirl, Angie, jenahdawn, lil_geek, LIZNKEITH, MaMa2D, mkvh, sdauer21,TazLuv, TerpsFan, tgal, WebDiva

Since we've gained/lost some original members, we ask that you re-post your stats to join this thread. We'd also love to have new members along for the ride! To join/re-join, please submit a post with the following information in RED:

Username:
Me: Name, age
DH: Name, age
For each child:
DS/DD: Name
Birthdate:
Time of birth:
Weight at birth:
Length at birth:
Photos: 1 to 2 pics per child
Any other children:

For security reasons leave out any information you'd like.

Please post all updates in RED.

Also, when posting, please put in the subject line how old your baby is (w,d). It will help us to know where everyone is. Thanks.

Your threadmistresses are aligirl, LIZNKEITH, Loud_curly, sdauer21, and ShannonGH

*Thanks to all the Mommy threads, since we basically borrowed the same layouts and links for our thread.*

Previous Thread Links

December Group:
1st Trimester (http://www.constantchatter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31878)
2nd trimester (http://www.constantchatter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34968)
3rd Trimester (http://www.constantchatter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37111)
3rd Trimester & Birth (http://www.constantchatter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38291)

January Group:
Our Entire Pregnancy (http://www.constantchatter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33151)

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Our Mommies & Babies


aligirl
Me: Ali, 28
DH: Jay, 29
It's a Girl: Catherine Aline "Cate"
Birthdate: 1/10/08
Time of birth: 3:39PM
Weight at birth: 8 lbs
Length at birth: 20"
Any other children: Alexander Matthew "Alex" 1/22/06

Angie
Me: Angie, 29
DH: Andrew, 29
It's a Girl: Abigail
Birthdate: 01/25/2008
Time of birth: 3:40 pm
Weight at birth: 8 lbs, 12 ozs
Length at birth: 20 in
Any other children: 2 furbabies

gelfnrach
Me: Rachel, 31
DH: Michael, 35
It's a Boy: Sam
Birthdate:12/28/07
Weight at birth: 8 lbs, 12 ozs
Any other children: Ben, 3. Casey our shaggy little shih tzu is 5.

jenahdawn
Me: Jenah, 30
DH: Matt, 29
It's a Girl: Lillian Grace
Birthdate: 11/18/2007
Time of birth: 9:42pm
Weight at birth: 6lbs 14oz
Length at birth: 18"
Any other children: Katie Rose & Chloe Dawn, b/d 9/27/2006

Jeneca128
Me: Karen, 25
DH: Dan, 25
It's a Boy: William Jay
Birthdate: 1/30/08
Time of birth: 5:14 am
Weight at birth: 7 lbs 8 oz
Length at birth: 20 1/2 inches
Any other children: 3 furbabies - Sadie, Khatru, & Lucy

lil_geek
Me: Tara
DH: Terry
It's a girl: Elizabeth Vittoria
Birthdate: 12/21/07
Time of birth: 8:04pm
Weight at birth: 6lb 15oz
Length at birth: 19.75"
Any other children: nope

LIZNKEITH
Me: Liz, 29
DH: Keith, 38
It's a Girl: Megan Leigh
Birthdate: January 12, 2008
Time of birth: 10:52 am
Weight at birth: 6 lb, 12.6 oz
Length at birth: 19.5 inches
Any other children: Caroline, 6/15/05 & furbaby Lucy

Loud_curly
Me: L, 32
DH: A, 32
It's a Boy: Cooper Maddox
Birthdate: 12/20/07
Time of birth: 9:50 pm
Weight at birth: 7 lbs 13 oz
Length at birth: 20 inches
Any other children: 2 furbabies - Roxy and Hobbes

MaMa2D
Me: Mariana, 31
DH: D, 32
It's a Girl: Mila Kaja
Birthdate: December 17, 2007
Time of birth: 6:20 a.m.
Weight at birth: 8 lbs 11 oz
Length at birth: 21 inches
Other kids: DS Dalibor, 2.5 yrs old

mkvh
Me: 31
DH: 33
It's a Girl: Georgia Elaine
Birthdate: 1/6/08
Time of birth: 8:53 AM
Weight at birth: 9lb, 8oz
Length at birth: 22"
Any other children: Clara Louise (7/12/06) and Rudy and Rocky, our labbies

pelican75
Me: Pam
DH: George
It's Some Boys: Linus, Oliver, Miles
Birthdate: 12/4/07
Time of birth: 6:54am, 6:55am, 6:56am
Weight at birth: 4lb 10oz, 4lb 10oz, 4lb 2oz
Length at birth: 17, 17, 17 (or something like that. heh.)
Any other children: no. thank god!

sdauer21
Me: Sonya
DH: Will
It's a Girl: Eden Nicole
Birthdate: 12/7/07
Time of birth: 9:55 am
Weight at birth: 7lb 2oz
Length at birth: 20 1/4"
Any other children: Tallia (5), Abigail (2 1/2), 2 furbabies, Henry (pug) and Nyx (lab/St. Bernard mix)

ShannonGH
Me: Shannon, 31
DH: B, 34
It's a Boy: Maxwell
Birthdate: 12.29.07
Time of birth: 3:27am
Weight at birth: 9lbs 14oz
Length at birth: 20"
Any other children: DD Noa, 3/23/06

TazLuv
Me: Cheri, 31
DH: DH, 31
It's a Girl: Adele Elizabeth
Birthdate: 12/27/07
Time of birth: 2:34pm
Weight at birth: 7lbs 8oz
Length at birth: 19 1/4 inches
Any other children: only a furry one

Terpsfan
Me: Beth, 30
DH: B, 30
It's a Girl: Bridget
Birthdate: 12/02
Time of birth: 6:15am
Weight at birth: 7.5lbs
Length at birth: 19.75 inches

tgal
Me: Tara
DH: Chris
It's a girl: Sophia Belle
Birthdate: 12/3/07
Time of birth: 6:54pm
Weight at birth: 6lb 12oz
Length at birth: 19"
Any other children: Eva (2)

WebDiva
Me: Sabrina, 30
DH: W, 30
It's a Girl: Aurelia Carina
Birthdate: December 15, 2007
Time of birth: 6:24 pm
Weight at birth: 6 lb, 5 oz
Length at birth: 18.8 inches

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Babies By Birthdate:

November:

November 18 ~ Lillian Grace (jenahdawn)

December:

December 2 ~ Bridget (TerpsFan)
December 3 ~ Sophia Belle (tgal)
December 4 ~ Linus, Oliver, & Miles (pelican75)
December 7 ~ Eden Nicole (sdauer21)
December 15 ~ Aurelia Carina (WebDiva)
December 17 ~ Mila Kaja (MaMa2D)
December 20 ~ Cooper Maddox (Loud_curly)
December 21 ~ Elizabeth Vittoria (lil_geek)
December 27 ~ Adele Elizabeth (TazLuv)
December 28 ~ Sam (gelfnrach)
December 29 ~ Maxwell (ShannonGH)

January:

January 6 ~ Georgia Elaine (mkvh)
January 10 ~ Catherine Aline "Cate" (aligirl)
January 12 ~ Megan Leigh (LIZNKEITH)
January 25 ~ Abigail (Angie)
January 30 ~ William Jay (Jeneca128)

[January2008Moms]

Watch Us Grow (WBV Stats):

Abigail
Birth: 8lbs, 12oz & 20 in long
3 weeks: 10 lbs, 1 oz (88%); length: 21.75 (88%); hc: 14.5 (61%)
2 months: 13 lbs, 11 oz (98%); length: 23.25 (81%); hc: 15.5 (66%)

Adele Elizabeth
Birth: 7lbs, 8oz & 19 1/4 in long
4 months: 12lbs, 8oz (25%) & 23.9 in long (50%)

Aurelia Carina
Birth: 6lbs, 5oz & 18.8 in long
2 months: 12lbs & 23.5 in long
4 months: 15lbs, 8oz (90%) & 24.75 in long; HC- 16 in

Bridget
Birth: 7.5lbs & 19.75 in long

Catherine Aline "Cate"
Birth: 8lbs & 20 in
2 months: 11lbs & 23.25 in long, 15 in HC

Cooper Maddox
Birth: 7 lbs 13 oz & 20 in
2 months: 9 lbs 14 oz & 23 1/4 in
4 months: 13lbs, 8oz (25%) & 24.5 in long (25%)

Eden Nicole
Birth: 7lbs, 2oz & 20.25 in long
4 months: 12lbs, 13oz & 23.75 in long

Elizabeth Vittoria
Birth: 6lbs, 15oz & 19.75 in long
3 months: 10lbs, 12oz & 23 in long
4 months: 12lbs, 8oz (20%)

Georgia Elaine
Birth: 9lbs, 8oz & 22 in long
2 months: 14lbs & 25 in long, 15.5 in HC (75%)

Lillian Grace
Birth: 6lbs, 14oz & 18 in long
4 months: 14lbs, 1.25oz & 23 in long

Linus
Birth: 4lbs, 10oz & 17 in long
3 months: 12 lbs, 14.5 oz (25-50th percentile); 23.75" long (25-50th percentile)
4 months: 14lbs, 9.5oz (50th); 25" long (50th); HC 41.5cm (25-50th)

Maxwell
Birth: 9lbs, 14oz & 20 in long
2 months: 15lbs, 12oz & 25 in long
4 months: 17lbs, 5oz (90%) & 26.25 in long (85%)

Megan Leigh
Birth: 6lbs, 12.6oz & 19.5 in
4 days: 6lbs, 8oz & 19.5 in, 33cm HC
2 weeks: 7lbs, 8oz (25%) & 20 in (25%), 35cm HC (25%)
2 months: 10lbs, 9.6oz (50%) & 22.5 in, 39cm HC (50%)

Mila Kaja
Birth: 8lbs, 11oz & 21 in long
2 months: 13lbs, 25 in long

Miles
Birth: 4lbs, 2oz & 17 in long
3 months: 12 lbs, 7.5 oz (25th percentile); 22.75" long (10th percentile)
4 months: 13lbs, 15oz (25-50th); 24.25" long (25-50th); HC 42cm (50th)

Oliver
Birth: 4lbs, 10oz & 17 in long
3 months: 13 lbs, 5 oz (50th percentile); 23.75" long (25-50th percentile)
4 months: 14lbs, 11oz (50th); 24.5" long (25-50th); HC 43.5cm (50-75th)

Sam
Birth: 8lbs, 12oz
3 months: 16lbs, 13oz & 26 in long

Sophia Belle
Birth: 6lbs, 12oz & 19 in long
4 months: 14lb, 3oz (75%)

William Jay
Birth: 7lbs, 8oz & 20.5 in
2 months: 12lbs, 15oz & 23.5 in long

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Our Babies:


William Jay (Jeneca128's DS):
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Catherine Aline "Cate" (aligirl's DD):
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Adele Elizabeth (TazLuv's DD):
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Maxwell (ShannonGH's DS):
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Cooper Maddox (Loud_curly's DS):
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Aurelia Carina (WebDiva's DD):
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Elizabeth Vittoria (lil_geek's DD):
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Linus, Oliver, & Miles (pelican75's boys):
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Megan (LIZNKEITH'S DD):
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Abigail (Angie's DD):
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Sam (gelfnrach's DS):
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Welcome to our new home and make sure to post your stats in your first post so we can get you added to our member list:)

Also - if your DC has already had a WBV/checkup feel free to list the stats so we can get them added to the WBV list.

[LIZNKEITH]

I guess I'll go first. :)

LIZNKEITH:
Me: Liz, 29
DH: Keith, 38
DD Name: Megan Leigh
Birthdate: January 12, 2008
Time of birth: 10:52 am
Weight at birth: 6 lb, 12.6 oz
Length at birth: 19.5 inches
Any other children: Caroline, 6/15/05

2 Month WBV: 10 lb, 9 oz (50%), 22.5 inches long (50%)

Looking forward to meeting all the mommies and watching our kids grow!

[aligirl]

Username:aligirl
Me: Ali, 28
DH: Jay, 29

DD: Catherine Aline "Cate"
Birthdate: 1/10/08
Time of birth: 3:39PM
Weight at birth: 8 lbs
Length at birth: 20"

Any other children: Alexander Matthew "Alex" 1/22/06

2 month WBV: 11 lbs, 23.25"; HC 15"

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Yay for the new home! :)

[TazLuv]

Username: TazLuv
Me: Cheri, 31
DH: DH, 31
For each child:
DD: Adele Elizabeth
Birthdate: 12/27/07
Time of birth: 2:34pm
Weight at birth: 7lbs 8oz
Length at birth: 19 1/4 inches
Any other children: only a furry one

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[mkvh]

Gah...Taz...Adele looks so stinking cute in that hat!!

You got me, Liz. Thanks for starting the new thread. I nearly missed it!!!

[LIZNKEITH]

Awwww....I love seeing all these babies!

Sorry, mkvh! Man, I hope nobody is having a difficult time finding their way here.

Mama,
Love the baptism pictures from the last thread. You've got a beautiful family!

Bedtime Routine
We're pretty loose. I usually just change her in to her pajamas and night diaper, swaddle her in her Miracle Blanket, nurse her, and lay her down in her crib awake. Sometimes she cries, but it never lasts longer than 10 minutes. She usually goes down around 8 or 9 and sleeps until 1. She's usually up again to eat around 5, and then up for the day at 8.

Us
We are in deep trouble. We've been offering Megan a bottle periodically, having her last bottle only 2 weeks ago. She took it without a fuss. Keith and I went out Thursday night and she refused the bottle for my Mom. We thought maybe she wasn't hungry, so we let it go and Keith tried again later when she got fussy. She refused again and went in to a total fit until I put her to the breast.

We tried again yesterday and same story.

I go back to work in 2 weeks. I'm so afraid she's going to go on a hunger strike. Keith and I have decided we'll just keep offering a bottle everyday between now and then. Does anyone else have any suggestions? I've been having DH give her the bottle because I remember reading BF'ed babies will often refuse a bottle from their Moms.

[TazLuv]

mkvh - thanks, its one of my favorite pictures of her!

Ladies, I need some help! :( I posted this in the breastfeeding thread and lotsahaircrazy had a suggestion but I'm wondering if anyone else can help. Adele has gotten into this really bad sleep pattern. I'll nurse her in front of the TV in the evening, letting her comfort suck if she's not actually eating and around 10pm she finally falls asleep (before this her last nap is usually in the 2-4 time frame for ~30 minutes). So at 10 she'll sleep for ~45 minutes and then wake up. I'll feed her again for 30-90 minutes in the recliner in her room in near darkness and then put her back down. The last few nights we've had to let her CIO just b/c we're at wits end. She'll then sleep for 3-5 hours wake up, eat and then again won't go back to sleep. So I end up feeding her and sleeping with her in the recliner in her room. I have no idea what to do, until about 10 days ago she was consistently sleeping from 9 or 10 until 4-7. Anyone?

[aligirl]

mkvh - thanks, its one of my favorite pictures of her!

Ladies, I need some help! :( I posted this in the breastfeeding thread and lotsahaircrazy had a suggestion but I'm wondering if anyone else can help. Adele has gotten into this really bad sleep pattern. I'll nurse her in front of the TV in the evening, letting her comfort suck if she's not actually eating and around 10pm she finally falls asleep (before this her last nap is usually in the 2-4 time frame for ~30 minutes). So at 10 she'll sleep for ~45 minutes and then wake up. I'll feed her again for 30-90 minutes in the recliner in her room in near darkness and then put her back down. The last few nights we've had to let her CIO just b/c we're at wits end. She'll then sleep for 3-5 hours wake up, eat and then again won't go back to sleep. So I end up feeding her and sleeping with her in the recliner in her room. I have no idea what to do, until about 10 days ago she was consistently sleeping from 9 or 10 until 4-7. Anyone?

I wish I had some suggestions for you.... It sounds like she wants to nurse to sleep. Cate does that too--She does a lot of things Adele does.

She'll eat every 1.5 hours from about 7pm on and around 11 will expect to be nursed to sleep. Then, she'll sleep til 6:00. For whatever reason, I can't get her to sleep on her own any other way - except during the day.

Can you stop the comfort sucking? Does she take a pacifier? It helps Cate a lot since she likes to comfort suck too....but as soon as she's hungry we know it. As much as I hate having such a late bedtime for her, I love the 11 to 5 or 6 sleep I get most nights - especially with going back to work in a week. It seems like when I let her "tank up" she sleeps well - when I don't she wakes around 2-4.


What nipple flow are you BF moms using for bottles of EBM? I stupidly bought some and washed them without paying attention to the flow - and bought fast flow. I have a slow flow nipple and I know Cate's done well with it - but honestly, when I sucked on each bottle it didn't seem like that much of a difference to me..

[TerpsFan]

Joining!

Username: Terpsfan
Me: Beth, 30
DH: B, 30
DD: Bridget
Birthdate: 12/02
Time of birth: 6:15am
Weight at birth: 7.5lbs
Length at birth: 19.75 inches

She's a little over 3.5 months now and she weighs 14.5lbs.

[LIZNKEITH]

Hey, Terpsfan!

Taz,
Hmmm...how frequently is she eating during the day? I do know that BF babies tend to nurse more frequently during the later afternoon/evening as that's when our supply is at it's lowest. Like Ali said, maybe she's just tanking up for the night? Is it possible to nurse her more frequently earlier in the evening in hopes of rescheduling her "clock". Also, I found my DD was super cranky and at the breast constantly from about 10pm to midnight or 1 for the longest time. I finally started putting her to ped around 9:00 and she hasn't done it since. I think a lot of babies get overtired and nursing is the one way they cope with it. If I would have tried to let her CIO at that time, she would have screamed for hours, I'm sure. But now that I've been trying to catch her sleepy signs early, I nurse her and lay her down immediately. Most times she'll go off without even fussing but sometimes she may cry for 5-10 minutes.

Nipples- The Bottle Kind
We're using Born Free bottles and I've been using the slower flow 0-3 month nipple up until yesterday. Our of desperation, I popped in one of the 3 month + nipples thinking maybe she was refusing the bottle because the flow was too slow (I have a forceful letdown). That didn't help either.
Don't worry, even if she doesn't take them now, Ali, in another few months you'll need the faster flow. I remember C's suck got so strong she was sucking holes through her nipples. :eek:

[jeneca128]

Yay for the new thread. Looking forward to getting to know all the Dec. Moms and babies! Our group was so small!

LIZ Have you considered trying the Adiri bottles?? A couple of the moms in the Mommy group I go to could only get their babies to take those. I need to start giving William some bottles. I'm afraid he may raise a fuss this week when we go out for our anniversary.

Ali I bought Slow flow. Dunno if it really is a whole lot different though.

Taz- Eeeh. Wish I could help you. William does the same thing. Occasionally I can get him to sleep with just the pacifier though.



So....I'm thinking of attempting cloth diapering.... I've been lurking around the CD thread when I get a chance...but that isn't often. DH is kind of wary of starting this though. Which is funny because before William was born he was dead set on CDing and I was the one that said no.

[sdauer21]

Thanks for starting this (Liz? Lorraine?) - new thread looks great!!

Will have to post stats later - Eden's screaming and the big girls are refusing naps. :rolleyes: But wanted to pop in to subscribe.

Sonya :)

[LIZNKEITH]

Karen,
I haven't heard about those yet. I'll definitely look in to them if I can't get her to take one in the next few days. The little bugger...she took one fine 2 weeks ago. :rolleyes:
So....I'm thinking of attempting cloth diapering.... I've been lurking around the CD thread when I get a chance...but that isn't often. DH is kind of wary of starting this though. Which is funny because before William was born he was dead set on CDing and I was the one that said no.

WOO HOO! Come over on to the dark side (I need a little devil smiley). Keith and I were the same way: he suggested CDing when I was pregnant with C and I think I looked at him like he had a second nose. But then 2 years later I say to him, "What would you think about CDing" (forgetting it was once his idea). I love it!! There 's a couple of us in this thread that I know do CD (lil geek, gelfnrach anyone else...?). If you have any questions, don't be afraid to ask. But let me warn you, you are about to start a habit more addicting than crack.

Sonya,
Ouch...hope everyone finally went to sleep for you.

[mkvh]

Taz--I would bet that part of Adele's issue is that she's overly tired and having a hard time settling down. At this point, our babes need to keep their periods of wakefulness to no more than 2 hours (Yes, I'm a HSHHC junkie, but it's TRUE!). You should find that as she gets more rested during the day, her night sleep is better. Oh...and we nurse pretty much all evening!

Paci--G FINALLY is starting to take it. Crazy. It's because of MIL. Fine by me. My nips are over it :)

Nipples--We do Playtex Nursers slow flow. I've never tried the fast ones; DD1 used slow flow till she switched completely to sippies at 10m.

Taking the bottle--My GF's daycare said not to worry--that they're much better at getting babies to take bottles than we are 'cause they deal with it every day. Hopefully that's the case with Megan, Liz!


US: G is driving me a bit nuts. The kid has been nursing every 2 hours for about 5 days now, and I'm about over the edge. I broke down crying today because all I want is to eat WHATEVER I WANT. Cut me some slack, tho, because DH left me alone with both girls at HIS family Easter celebration yesterday. I'm beat! :)

I did indulge on our anniversary date last week and ate whatever I wanted. G has been miserable for 2 days. So I'm definitely back to no dairy/eggs/peanuts/peanut butter for the foreseeable future.

Easter was good. I didn't get very many pics of the girls, though, and I still need to download. Hope all of you who celebrate are having a great day!

[TazLuv]

mkvh - I totally agree, I try to follow HSHHC as much as possible. She'll nap great until she wakes around 4-5pm and then she won't nap again and won't go down until somewhere in the 9-12 time frame. So she does great with the 2 hour time frames before that. Last night she'd been down for 2 1/2, up for 1, down for 1, and then I soothed her and let her cry herself back to sleep instead of getting her up. She then slept for 2 1/2 so thats a little better but still not great. I'm half tempted to bottle feed her in the evenings so that I know how much she's getting so that I know she's full when I put her down. We'll keep trying!

I hear you on the wanting to eat whatever you want, I've slowly been introducing dairy again and so far so good but I still haven't had a tall cold glass of milk which I just crave. :(

jeneca128 - we CD, we use the OS BumGenius' and LOVE them. I have about 30 and I wash every 3-4 days. We use sposies when we travel but otherwise we're all CD.

Happy Easter everyone!

[jeneca128]

Liz Hopefully she'll take a bottle for you soon. I like how those Adiri bottles are designed, but they are definitely not cheap. I let DH give William a bottle yesterday and he took it right away thank goodness.

I can already see myself getting addicted to CDs. Hopefully I can keep the spending under control. I really want to get a stash of BG 3.0's.

Taz- That is what I'm looking into doing. I'm really drawn to the idea of using the BGOS , and I think those might be easiest for DH. Not to mention that I love the fact that he can wear them practically forever.


For all of you CDing mommas- What is you wash routine like?? Do you store the BGOS in a dry pail?

I asked a couple of the moms at the group I attend about CD's and they mostly use G diapers, but just lay CPF's in them instead of the flushable inserts. I picked up a starter pack of those just to give it a try and I like them, but....... what do you do about the newborn breastfeed poo?? I can't really shake it off into the toilet and swishing it around really didn't dislodge much of it. I'm still liking the idea of CD's but I'm really lost on the whole care and washing portion of it.

[LIZNKEITH]

mkvh,
I hope your friend is right. Still no success with the bottle. We're trying again in a few minutes. Wish us luck!

Karen,
You and your DH will love the BG OS. We use them on Caroline (the 2.0's) and have started supplementing our stash for Megan with some 3.0's. They're so easy to use, DH will love them. I love that they are so versatile, too. As the babe gets older, you can add more inserts as needed. We currently have to use THREE inserts on Caroline at night.

CD Washing-
EBF diapers are easy. Just throw them in the dry pail and try to wash every 2-3 days. No need to prerinse or shake off because their is really nothing to it and it doesn't stink. Once you start adding solids, you may want to invest in flushable liners or a diaper sprayer. But, you can always shake and swish, too. We use a sprayer for Caroline. The BG's microfleece is great...I get very few stains on them. When I do, I just lay them clean diaper out in the sun for a little while and it really makes it disappear. As far as washing, I just use Publix brand Free and Clear detergent (same as I use on our clothes). We have an HE machine, so I press all kinds of buttons: extra water, pre-wash, and extra rinse. I set it for hot wash/cold rinse and heavily solied. With Caroline's, once a month or so I'll add a little bleach to the wash as toddler pee can be pretty stinky. I find that brightens the diapers up and cleans them up no problem. It's really so easy, but you may find you have to experiment a little at first to find what works for your water.

Happy Easter, everyone!
We've been up since 6:30. I'm exhausted. Did early mass, an egg hunt and brunch here at the house. Both girls cooperated though and let me take a 1.5 hour nap. Thank goodness!

[ShannonGH]

Hi ladies! Liz, thank you so very much for the new digs!!!!

ShannonGH
Me: Shannon, 31
DH: B, 34
DS: Maxwell
Birthdate: 12.29.07
Time of birth: 3:27am
Weight at birth: 9lbs 14oz
Length at birth: 20"
Any other children: DD Noa, 3/23/06
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l273/shannonhaney/Picture088.jpg?t=1206309373

I'm thinking we're going through either the 3 month growth spurt over here or something else developmental is gonig on....Max hasn't slept/napped well in over 2 days. He doesn't seem much hungrier than usual, just not well-rested and therefore, cranky.

Sorry I don't have time for SOs right now. I'll BBL!

[mkvh]

Taz--ICK! Sorry that I told you something you already knew :( I'm at a loss. It WOULD be an interesting experiment to see what she does if you give her a bottle of EBM in the evening!

Flat spots--Anyone else starting to notice them? G is starting to get one slightly toward her left ear from the middle of the back of her head. Just to the side of where she's worn off all her hair... :rolleyes: I know it will most likely go away, but anyone have any good strategies for minimizing?

[ShannonGH]

Forgot to add this earlier:
2 month wbv: 15lb 12oz, 25"

Taking a bottle: We were bound and determined to be more on top of this with Max b/c we weren't w/ Noa and it was a nightmare. So we started giving him a bottle of EBM at about 3wks of age and all was going well at first. We'd give him a bottle every-other-night or so. Then, slowly he started becoming less and less fond of it and just Saturday was the first time he flat out refused it hour after hour (with me not nursing him). It is such a point of anxiety/stress in our home (Max crying and Dh is very impatient) that I've told Dh that I'm okay w/ him not taking a bottle. So I think we're just going to stop trying. Granted, I can do that since I SAH. I have an all-day conference to attend on Saturday and guess who'll be coming with me hanging out in the stroller b/c he can't stay w/ grandma and take a bottle:rolleyes:

I'll go ahead and share my story of getting Noa to take a bottle since I think it comes to this for many babies. I researched the internet and tried EVERY suggestion out there. We tried every nipple on the market, even the bottle shaped like a big boob. Nothing worked. Then when she was 3.5 mos old I had to go into the hospital for outpatient surgery so I obviously wasn't going to be there to bf her. Stinker held out more than 7 hrs before she took a bottle but the key was that she got hungry enough. And she took a bottle every day since then too. Bottom line is that every bfed baby *can* take a bottle, it's truly just a battle of wills.

[TazLuv]

mkvh - I appreciate the affirmation and knowing that others are trying what we're trying. Last night was MUCH better, I think part of it was sticking with the 6pm nap until she FINALLY went down. She slept until 10 and probably would have slept longer but we had resorted to the car seat and I wasn't comfortable leaving her in it while we went to be. So we woke her, fed her, put her down and she fussed for just a few minutes and then slept 11:30-6:30, yay! :D So we'll keep trying and hope it becomes the pattern.

Bottles - Adele has had a bottle since the hospital since my milk didn't come in so we haven't had any refusal issues. Now she gets 1 4oz bottle of formula/day b/c she doesn't bf well under cover and I need to have a way to feed her when we're out. If I don't have a need to give it to her while we're out we give it to her in the evening so that she still gets one every day.

[Loud_curly]

Joining! Thanks again Liz! (And I'll add my stats to the front page as well!)

Username: Loud_curly
Me: L, 32
DH: A, 32
DS: Cooper Maddox
Birthdate: 12/20/07
Time of birth: 9:50 pm
Weight at birth: 7 lb. 13 oz.
Length at birth: 20 in.

WBV:
2 Month: 9 lb. 14 oz, 23 1/4 inches, 14 3/4 HC


Here's a picture from our first professional shoot, around 1 month:
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u236/loud_curly/Cooperprog.jpg

[Loud_curly]

Bottle feeding - We're lucky on this end that DS has not had any issues with taking a bottle, from anyone. He's even taken one from me! And now that he's in daycare, I expect it won't be an issue at all.

Sleep - Well, just when I think we're getting into a good pattern, we regress. DS had been STTN, but over the past week he's been getting up once or twice a night. Now granted, they are usually short wakings (he feels his wet diaper and just can't go back to sleep), with a quick diaper change and a quick comfort feed. I probably don't even need to feed him, but it's the quickest way to settle him down. We keep working on getting his bedtime earlier - we're now consistently at 9:30 pm. I hope he starts going down even earlier, since I keep having to wake him up in the mornings around 7 so we can get on our way to daycare. And we're still swaddling him - every time we stop, he wakes himself up with his flailing arms and scares himself. I guess we'll keep working on not swaddling on the weekends, when we can recover from crazy nights.

Supplementing - Is anyone here supplementing with formula at all? We just started giving him a little bit this weekend. As you can see from our 2 month WBV, he's not packing on the weight very quickly, and the pediatrician is getting a bit concerned that he keeps dropping down on the weight growth chart (but not the height or HC one). I'm guessing it's b/c his cycle - eat, play, sleep - is probably a bit too long (usually it's 3-4 hours between feedings, although it gets closer to 2 hours in the evening).

Paci - Very rarely will he take the paci - usually it just makes him more unhappy. He only seems to take it when he's really tired and realizes that he won't be getting the boob (i.e. at daycare or with everyone but me). But I'm OK with him not using one.

[aligirl]

Supplementing - Is anyone here supplementing with formula at all? We just started giving him a little bit this weekend. As you can see from our 2 month WBV, he's not packing on the weight very quickly, and the pediatrician is getting a bit concerned that he keeps dropping down on the weight growth chart (but not the height or HC one). I'm guessing it's b/c his cycle - eat, play, sleep - is probably a bit too long (usually it's 3-4 hours between feedings, although it gets closer to 2 hours in the evening).



With my DC#1, we supplemented for the very same reasons you are - he wasn't gaining fast plus he had awful reflux. It was the best thing we could've done for him.

[mkvh]

Taz--So glad to hear that the late nap helped with nighttime sleep. Yaaaay!!


Growth spurt--I posted this in the BF support thread, but G is nursing EVERY. TWO. HOURS. Gah. And my mom and sister keep telling me to give her cereal. Double gah...

[Sandie78]

Growth spurt--I posted this in the BF support thread, but G is nursing EVERY. TWO. HOURS. Gah. And my mom and sister keep telling me to give her cereal. Double gah...

Julianna did this about a week ago. It's much better now.

Julianna slept through the night last night, yea! I hope this continues.

[LIZNKEITH]

Flat Spots
I started noticing one on Megan a couple of weeks ago, but it's seemed to round back out. We do have the bald spots though...she's got a little "halo" the encircles her her. :)

Shannon,
Thank you for sharing your story about Noa and the bottle. I'm afraid that's what it may come to for us as well. I have read that they'll never starve themselves. I was even reading on KM that many babies do what is called "reverse cycling"- take in just enough EBM to take the edge off their hunger and make up for lost feedings once you are home. Unfortunately, usually by getting up multiple times during the night. I guess we'll just wait and see what happens.

Max is adorable! I just want to pinch on his little rolls!

Taz,
Woo Hoo! What a great stretch of sleep!

Loud_curly,
We're still swaddling here, too. Everytime I try to put her down without it, she flails uncontrollably. DD1 was swaddled until she was nearly 6 months old (:embarrassed:) and started breaking out of her Miracle Blanket. I've read there isn't an immediate need to get them out of it. It won't disrupt them developmentally or anything. So if it works for you, by all means keep doing it. Unless of course you're just trying to bite the habit early.

Cooper is such a doll! We've got some beautiful babies in this group.

Supplementing
So far I've been really lucky. We supplemented DD1 though because I was EPing and my supply couldn't keep up. I start back to work in 2 weeks and while I am concerned how my supply will be affected, I don't think I feel as much pressure this time around. You do what you can to keep your baby healthy and growing. Sometimes we need a little help, ya know?

Paci
Megan won't take one...kind of a blessing and a curse. A blessing in that DD1 still takes one for sleep at 2.5 years old and breaks down at the very mention of getting rid of it. So, I'm happy we won't have them around for Megan when we finally ditch them for Caroline. But, I worry how she'll soothe once I go back to work. She's started chewing her hands a lot lately so maybe she's finding other ways?

mvkh,
I'm so sorry for your rough nights. Especially with you just having started back at work. Hang in there, it will pass and she'll go back to her good sleeping patterns. I feel like just as soon as we recover from a growth spurt, we get beat down by another.

Sandie,
Congratulations! Man, I'm so jealous. Megan's only done it once. I long for an unintterupted 8 hours or so.

[ShannonGH]

STTN- far from it here. Max has been battling a very itchy scalp that kept him from sleeping/napping soundly. We're finally on some meds that I think may help. He slept better last night but the kid *still* thinks he needs to eat twice a night. At his size, I think he's mistaken. We've broken him from the swaddle addiction BUT he is currently sleeping and napping in his swing (papasan seat on FP Nature's Touch). We don't even turn it on but he sleeps SO much better there. In his crib, he kicks and flails and wakes very frequently. I'm concerned this is going to be a hard habit to break but I guess it provides him the same security that other babies get from the swaddle.

[sdauer21]

Back to post these:
Username: sdauer21
Me: Sonya
DH: Will
For each child:
DD: Eden Nicole
Birthdate: 12/7/07
Time of birth: 9:55 am
Weight at birth: 7lb 2oz
Length at birth: 20 1/4"

Any other children: Tallia (5), Abigail (2 1/2), 2 furbabies, Henry (pug) and Nyx (lab/St. Bernard mix)

Whew - trying to catch up, but ya'll are chatty! I'm on Spring Break, so I might actually get a little caught up this week, YEA! :)

Eden's growing like a weed! I think mkvh was mentioning the eating every.two.hours. We're doing that, though, thankfully!, not at night. I think she might be catching up for me being at work. My supply is so low that we're just hanging on but I'm trying to let her nurse whenever she even hints at it. I'm also taking piles of Fenugreek. I only have 10 or so weeks of work left - that's my goal, to BF into summer. But really, if we make it another 3-4 weeks, we'll have surpassed how long I BF my other 2!

We had a big milestone yesterday - we set up Eden's crib!! I had a really hard time doing it - I know she's growing, but I'm just not ready to move her out of my room yet. We won't do it just yet, as she'll be sharing a room with Abigail - and quite frankly, Abigail sleeps like crap. Eden, on the other hand, has been sleeping through the night for probably over a month now, and I don't want to mess with that. But she's getting too big for her cradle, so I know I need to start that move. It's just hard, since this is the last time I'll get to sleep with a newborn... :( Despite my issues, we put her in it yesterday to try it out and she loved it! In fact, she obliged us with her first roll-over!! She went from her belly to her back - so fast that none of us were expecting it, but even Tallia got to see it! She hasn't done it again, but I suspect she'll start adding it in to her routine soon enough. We have been having her nap in the crib and she's doing really well with that, so I think we're getting closer to a normal, daily routine for her.

Hmmm...what else? Well, there's probably tons more, but I need to change a very smelly pull-up! :p Looking forward to getting to know the January moms!

[tgal]

Hi ladies! I didn't realize we had moved.

Username: tgal
Me: Tara
DH: Chris
For each child:
DD: Sophia Belle
Birthdate: 12/3/07
Time of birth: 6:54pm
Weight at birth: 6lb 12oz
Length at birth: 19"

Any other children: Eva (2)

I'll be back later, work is calling :(!

[TazLuv]

Well Adele has her first cold. She slept great Sunday night but last night was just awful and this morning I figured out it was because she is congested and has a hard time breathing laying down so she kept waking herself up. So she's napping in her bouncer or her car seat and is much happier. I think we'll sleep her in her bouncer tonight and see if that helps her.

Glad everyone is finding us. :)

[LIZNKEITH]

Shannon,
I hope the meds help. It can't help that it's still so dry out. Hopefully his skin clears up soon and you all start catching some zzz's.

Sonya,
Hopefully this growth spurt will help your supply catch up so you can make it to your goal. You're so close!

Wow...lots of big news: new crib, new tricks...it's been a busy week in your house. I know the mixed feeling of moving them in to their crib. We moved Megan a few weeks ago, much to my dismay. I found she was sleeping so much better though in her own room. I miss snuggling with her. For a while she'd still sleep with me for her afternoon nap, but now she's not even wanting that. :(

Glad you found us, Tara!

Cheri,
Sorry to hear about the cold. It's so hard at this age because there is very little we can do for them. I hope elevating her helped. I know when I have a cold it helps. Hope Adele feels better soon!

Us
I can't seem to get Megan's eye infection cleared up. The Ped prescribed 7 days of drops which seemed to be doing the trick. Over the weekend her eyes were looking almost 100%. But then Monday they started getting goopy again. Yesterday was Day 7. I guess I'll call to see if he wants me to continue, or if he wants to see her again.

[January2008Moms]

Updated to here

[mkvh]

Liz--:o No, she's STTN. :o The eating is during the day. She's constantly on the bb. Sorry to hear that M's eye hasn't cleared up yet.

Shannon--"At his size, I think he's mistaken," made me LOL!! So, so true.

Sonya--Sorry you're feeling sad about the crib. :( I can imagine I'll feel the same with my 'last' one. And thanks for commiserating on the constant eating. Exhausting!

Heeeeey tgal!

Taz--Sorry about Adele's cold :( So sad to see them sick.

[tgal]

For those of you that mentioned growth spurts, thanks! Sophia has been really fussy lately and I really didn't think this was the time for another growth spurt, so I didn't even consider it. She is eating quite a bit, but the biggest issue for us right now is that she won't sleep during the day. I'm not doing well with this either, especially since my boss is letting me work from home a couple days a week and I decided to keep her here with me those days.

Sonja: I completely understand your feeling. I don't sleep the entire night with Sophia, but I get teary eyed thinking about how fast they grow and how precious these moments are.

Speaking of which, we attended a wedding this weekend and they played butterfly kisses and I just lost it thinking about my girls growing up way too fast.

Shannon: Sophia is sleeping in ther swing when we can get her to sleep during the day and during the night. I hope Max's scalp get better soon. BTW, the pictures turned out great!

mkvh: Hey, I wanted to ask another pumping question. Do you feed everything you pump to your dd, actually how much is she eating these days? We were sticking to 4 oz a feeding, but I keep telling dh that she needs more in the moring because I pump more and that might have to do with her being so cranky! I did the calculations on kelly's mom awhile ago, but I don't have a recent weight to do it at the moment.

Taz: I hope Adele feels better soon!

AAAAAAAAA, I've got to run, Sophia won't sleep! I don't know what to do, I'm getting nothing done at all when I am home during the day and this is without having Eva here!

[TazLuv]

tgal - does she sleep in her car seat when you go out? Adele wouldn't sleep during the day for a while and I'd put her in her car seat and walk it around the house then set it on the floor and rock it and it worked almost every time. When she's really tired sometimes its the only thing that works.

[Loud_curly]

tgal - Will she deal with the swing? Cooper is one who always fights going down for naps, but we've finally figured out that he's uber-fussy when he's tired. So we make sure he has a clean diaper and has been fed, and strap him into the swing and turn it on full blast. We usually know within a few minutes if it'll work, or if the crying will just continue endlessly. However, the car seat does not work for DS, unless it's constantly moving (car or stroller).

Oh, and as for pumping, I'm only getting 4 oz. at each session, and the daycare thinks he needs more than that. So we're getting by with a bit of formula and some frozen BM in addition to all I pump.

[WebDiva]

Ah, so here we are!

WebDiva
Me: Sabrina, 30
DH: W, 30
DD Name: Aurelia Carina
Birthdate: December 15, 2007
Time of birth: 6:24 pm
Weight at birth: 6 lb, 5 oz
Length at birth: 18.8 inches

2 Month WBV: 12lb, 23.5 inches long

At her 2 mo visit, we mentioned noticing a grayness in her pupil. Turned out that she had a cataract and had to have surgery to remove it. She's doing very well now, but needs to have a contact in her eye until she's old enough for a lens implant. Putting a contact on an infant is absolute hell. She also has to have her other eye patched for several hours a day in order to make this one stronger. Other than that things are going well. We are still working on this whole sleep thing. (I need to get her out of my bed! lol)

I started back to work yesterday. :(

Here are 2 pictures from Easter.
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/smr50459/CIMG2030-1.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/smr50459/CIMG2035-2.jpg

[mkvh]

tgal--Nope...I freeze 1-2 bottles per day. From what I've read recently, all babies take in somewhere b/t 19-30oz per day for their first year of life. When I'm gone, DD takes 4-5 bottles, and we just moved up to 4oz. I worry about her chugging from the bottle since it comes out so much faster. I'll bet it wouldn't hurt to try a larger bottle in the a.m. as long as it's not forced.

LC--They thing he needs more than 4oz a feeding? Really? How many times is he eating? That seems like a lot for his size.

Web--Gah! She's so adorable!! Sorry that the contact is such a challenge, but as you said before it's a blessing you found it so early.

[Loud_curly]

Webdiva - What a cutie!

mkvh - Yep, daycare's mentioned that he only voluntarily stopped feeding from his bottle once this week, and have given him as much as 5 oz. at a time. And I know he's getting a little formula here and there (which we provided, based on the pediatrician's advice). He's only feeding 3x a day - that's all the times that I can pump. I'm at work from 8:30 until 5:15 or so, and I pump around 10, 1, and 4, getting about 4 oz. each time. I'm a bit conflicted about it all. I think next week, I'll ask them to keep the feeding schedule a bit closer to my pumping schedule. Right now, he's getting his last bottle around 5 pm, which means he's not ready to nurse when we get home around 6:30. But I last pumped around 4, so I'm ready to feed him around then. It's all trial and error, but we'll have to see.

[MaMa2D]

YAY for the new home!!! Thanks Liz!!!

MaMa2D
Me: Mariana, 31 :eek: (when did that happen?)
DH: D, 32
DD Name: Mila Kaja
Birthdate: December 17, 2007
Time of birth: 6:20 a.m.
Weight at birth: 8 lbs 11 oz
Length at birth: 21 inches
Other kids: DS Dalibor, 2.5 yrs old

2 Month WBV: 13 lbs, 25 inches long


that's all i can get to ... miss mila is waking up!!!

[ShannonGH]

I have a quiet house...ahhhhh! Max is napping and Dh took DD on a run.

I'm in the process of having Max sleep in his crib, as opposed to his papasan seat on his swing. I've only done naps so far (not at night) but I'm definitely seeing an improvement. He's even put himself to sleep(after a little fussing) for 3 of his naps today!!! That's HUGE around here. I got some great suggestions from other mamas on how to make the transition easier from swing to crib and I think they've helped a lot.

Now, the other big sleep issue is that he STILL wakes up to eat twice most nights. I KNOW he is not uber hungry and it is just out of habit. I do not mind feeding him once at night but how do I go about breaking him of this habit? Any ROs dealt with this in the past? I know I should've broke him of this earlier but it's just so much easier to feed him for 5 minutes and put him back down rather than hearing him cry, which I know is going to happen when I don't feed him.

His itchy head (seborrhea- sp?) is better but still not gone. Poor kid is losing some of his locks b/c of the steroid foam we have to use to stop him from itching it. :(

WebDiva- She's such a cutie! I'm so glad the cataract surgery went well.

[mkvh]

LC--Can you ask them to try to give them to him more slowly, i.e. hold the bottle less vertically, burp every oz, etc? Also, my friend who does daycare with her DD the same age as our DC calls every. day. to be sure that they're not feeding her DD at 4;30 so she can nurse as soon as they get home. Can you ask them to feed on demand rather than at set intervals and see how that works?

MaMa--Good to see you! I recently turned 31 as well. It feels waaaay older than 30, for some reason!

Shannon--WTG on the crib and putting himself to sleep. Ah, the liberation! As for the nightwakings, I'm of no help. DD1 didn't night wake until she was 7m, and we let her CIO. Poor guy with his scalp rash. :(


Anyone else dealing with a constant-feeding, total crankypants? She's driving me nutso.

[MaMa2D]

i know i've been horrible with the SOs ... but i decided that today i will start with everyone that came after my post :p

ShannonGH- oh my gosh, how nice is it to have 5 minutes of quiet???? well, i wish i could help you with the sleep situation. mila was in an awesome routine with only one get-up for over 2 wks and she picked up grandma's cold on Easter (i'm sure you can all imagine how ridiculously pissed i am that i wasn't told grandma was sick before we went over there). now that she's been sick for 5 days, her sleep is worse than when she was first born. i am up at least three times before 5 am and then every 45 minutes until 7 or 8. i am SO unbelievably tired and just know that this will turn into a habit for her that i will have no idea to break. i'm already stressing about it. any suggestions?

mkvh- is it lame to say that i feel super old???? actually, when i hear or read my age i think i'm old, but i still feel like i'm 25.

hopefully i'll be back to post some pictures! so excited to be "back"!!!!

[MaMa2D]

although i know i'll be up half the night, i want to brag a little about miss america, AKA Mila, before i go to sleep!

she is just the happiest baby ever! even while being examined by the pediactrician for her cold, she smiled and cooed. she has been regularly smiling whenever she spots her big brother and is flipping ALL.THE.TIME from back to front and front to back. it's at the fun stage where you set her down on her back and turn around to find her on her tummy!

i pierced her ears right after her first vax and felt HORRIBLE when she screamed. here i am, a mom that wouldn't clip her tongue-tied tongue, piercing her ears at a little over two months. as lame as it may sound, it is sort of a right-of-passage in our culture. i had mine pierced before i was 6 months old. although, right after i did it, i was so upset with myself for doing it. all i kept thinking was what a horrible mother i was for having it done. BUT ... she is too damn cute with her little pierced ears. they've healed beautifully and she really didn't fuss after the initial piercing.

she is ridiculously long and i just ordered a bunch of sale stuff from gap online, only to find that she has outgrown 3-6 months. guess i'll be reordering the next size up!

i hope you're all doing well and look forward to meeting all the new mamas and their families!

[TerpsFan]

Hi Everyone!

Quick driveby question for ya'll... For the breastfed babies, how often do they poop now at 3-4 months?

Poop is the big topic in our house right now. DD will go upwards of 7 days between poops and lately per our ped's recommendation we've had to coax some out with Babylax. Anyone have experience with babies that just didn't want to go? She's such a crankypants bear on "poop day". Do they just outgrow this and it gets better when they are on more solids?

[ShannonGH]

Currently Max is going about every day to every-other-day. I think there is a very broad range of "normal poos" for bf babies.

[mkvh]

Every freaking diaper! Really! My kids just poop a lot. My 21 month old still poops multiple times a day. :rolleyes:

[tgal]

Thanks ladies! I think we got through the rough patch, or at least I hope so. She does sleep in her carseat for extended periods of time, but we have to drive around to get to sleep. The swing works too, but this past week she would just scream during the day. We finally just let her CIO in the swing, which worked. She is a fighter just like her sister. Anyway, I do think things are improving.

Poop: Sophia has been having issues for well over a month now. It was a drastic change too from going every day to nothing for 11 days when she finally had another bm. Then it was 10 days again and we called the ped. We could tell she was uncomfortable. Our ped. wanted us to use pedialite and prune juice, which she didn't take at all. Then she suggested water with karo and dh can get her to take that when I'm not around. That worked for a couple of weeks and she would go once a week. The ped was fine with that. I think Kelly's mom even mentions it is fine to go once a week. Well, now we are back to square one she had the water and karo last week and still no poo. Dh is calling the ped back today because this day 12. Personally, in our situation, I think the poo issue is a result of the reflux meds. I'm sure the ped won't attribute the problem as I am, but that is right about when this all started. Then again, I'm not an expert :rolleyes:!

[Loud_curly]

Poop - We can go up to 4 days without poop. But some days we still get two or three really dirty diapers. But nowhere near as long as a week with poop. (FTR, our pediatrician says she's not concerned until it's been longer than a week without poop.)

Sleep - We're getting into a much better routine these past few weeks. DS usually goes to bed between 7 and 8:30 (yes, I know, a wide spread, but we're still going off of his cues), wakes once around 3, and then we usually have to wake him at 7 to nurse and go to daycare. Sometimes we get a second night waking around midnight, but that's not common. And I'm still nursing him to almost sleep at these wakings (and to go to bed) - which may bite me later, but right now, it's part of the routine. Play, dress for bed, lights down, nurse, swaddle, nurse some more, into the crib (either drowsy or already asleep). When he's awake and I put him in the crib, he sometimes fusses for a few minutes, but he knows it's time for bed. Our next hurdle is getting rid of the swaddle.

[mkvh]

tgal--Every time DD2 fights sleep, I have premonitions that she too will be "a fighter like her sister". That would be my worst nightmare come true! Hope Sophia settles down and sleeps for you soon.

LC--Yaaaay! Sounds like sleep is going well for you. The wide range of bedtimes is par for the course in our house too.

Poop and reflux meds--My friend whose DD was born 12/29 says her DD's poops changed radically when she went on Prevacid.


Speaking of reflux meds, I'm really struggling with whether to try them for G. She does the stiffening/arching/sudden crying. She drools a TON and is inconsolably fussy for periods. Some days are bad, others not so bad. She still is a ton better than she was before I eliminated dairy, but there are bad days/times still. I worry that she's in pain and I'm not doing anything to help her, and I also worry that I'd be giving her meds that she doesn't need. I'm just a such an impassee... To make it worse, the ped offered meds at her 2m appt, and I declined because it wasn't "that bad". The ped even said that if we decided to go that route, all we needed to do was call and she'd call it in. I just don't know.

In other more fun developments, I swear DD just discovered that she has control of her arms and legs, and since she hasn't stopped moving! She's in perpetual motion, swimming and bicycling. It's so funny. That and she is soooo chatty. She talks all. the. time. I forgot how great it is to finally get some interaction.

[Loud_curly]

mkvh - Just wanted to let you know that DS is at the exact same place as G. Might have reflux, pediatrician offered meds, etc. Some days he's fine, other he's very fussy and seems to be in pain until he can pass the gas. I'm still hoping he'll outgrow it as his digestive system matures.

And yes, DS is moving all around - I never know where in the crib I'll find him in the morning. I've only seen him roll once, but I'm guessing that he's done it since then. And yes to the drool and constant conversation - it's getting to be a fun stage!

[MaMa2D]

poops- i have frequent poopers (LOL :p), as well. just like mkvh's DD, DS at 2.5 rarely goes a day without a BM.

reflux meds- everyone's experience is different with the reflux meds/diagnosis ... so please take this with a grain of salt. DS displayed so many of the symptoms of reflux and after a few months of not knowing what else to do, i gave in and started him on the meds. long story short, i don't think he had reflux and i never believed that the meds were really helping. it's a lot of guesswork on the part of the doctors and parents b/c so many symptoms can just be normal infant fussiness. the reason i don't believe that he had reflux was because i had a girlfriend who's daughter did have reflux and responded immediately to the medication ... whole new baby with almost no fussiness. i will say to trust your instinct and do what you think is best. you can always let her try the meds and if you don't see an improvement take her off.

tgal- so sorry to hear about the sleep problems. i had them big time with DS, which is why i freaked when mila got sick and was waking 6-7 times a night. DS still fights sleep at 2.5. i think it is just the way they are programmed when they are born. i did absolutely nothing diffferent with mila and she slept so much better from the get go. i hope things continue to improve!

mila has started to GIGGLE!!! i LOVE it. she's rolling all over the house, drooling, sucking her hands and giggling! haha!!! she's gotten over the cold and sleeping better. i basically didn't go in to her when she woke after a couple hours of putting her down to sleep and she did the little protest crying for about 5 minutes and didn't wake for another 5 hours. i'm hoping it stays that way.

QOTD- anyone with long kids have a recommendation for diapers??? i have mila in size 2 swaddlers and while the waist is big, the length is sort of short and she wakes up with a soaked diaper and PJ. do i need to just go up a size? i wasn't a fan of huggies with DS.

[mkvh]

LC--Thanks for commiserating! I just don't know....we're feeling a lot of the same things, tho, so I am glad not to be alone!

MaMa--Thanks for sharing. I'm glad you understand.

Diaper rec--Both my 90%+ length-wise girls have done well in Huggies. Regular ones, not Supremes. G is wearing 2s right now tho not for long. The regular ones are visibly longer rise.

[ShannonGH]

yay, busy thread!

diapers for long babies- we're in Kirkland (Costco brand) size 1-2 and they work very well. And are cheap!

Sleep- like LC, we're getting into a great routine here too. DS puts himself down for most naps and at bedtime. He usually fusses and then goes on to sleep. If he cries hard, I try to console him w/o getting him out of the crib. Works 95% of time. I've broken him of the swaddle addiction and paci addiction, and he is now doing all of his sleeping in his crib (granted, he has rolled towels around him to make him feel more secure). Like mama, my first baby was a HORRID sleeper (still is) and I'm not doing anything different w/ #2...I agree it is so how they are programmed.

Sorry no time for so's. Max is fussing.

[WebDiva]

Thanks mkvh, Loud_curly and Shannon.

Loud_curly, are you sure daycare is not feeding him too much? I printed out a sheet from kellymom.com on how to bottlefeed the breastfed baby and gave it to my daycare provider. I want to continue bf'ing her until she's around 1 or so and I need to be able to keep up with her in terms of how much she eats. Here is the handout that I gave to daycare: http://www.kellymom.com/store/freehandouts/bottle_feeding.pdf

Sleep I STILL can't get A to sleep in her own bed at night. She may start out in there, but when she gets hungry and I pick her up, she will not go back in there. She's still in a co-sleeper for the time being. I have it in bassinet mode right now, but I think tonight I'm going to try attaching it to our bed...maybe she'll think that she's still in our bed.

Poop She's still pooping multiple times a day. At least 2-3 times. For about her first 2 months, every single diaper was poopy. I'm so grateful for 2-3 times a day now...lol

[LIZNKEITH]

tgal,
Megan has stopped sleeping a lot during the day, too. This phenomenom has just started in the past week or so. Prior to, she'd only stay awake for 45 minutes at a time. Now, she tries to push it longer than 2 hours.

Web Diva,
Glad you found us! Wow, thank goodness you and your DH noticed her eye. The poor little girl. I'm having a hard enough time getting drops in to Megan's eye, I can't even imagine trying to put in/take out a contact lense from her eye. Do they have an idea as to when they'd like to do the surgery? Aurelia is adorable!

LC,
4 ounces sounds like more than enough to me too? Could he just be comfort sucking? Do they say if he's fussy once the bottle runs out? Are they pulling him off the bottle periodically to burp/let his brain register that his tummy is full?

Shannon,
Yay for transitioning to the crib! He'll realize soon enough it's nice to have your own quiet place to stretch out. Glad to hear he's adjusting so well. Sorry to hear about the night wakings. I think at this age you should continue to feed him when he demands it. Babies have a growth spurt at 3 months so maybe once he's past this he'll do a longer stretch at night?

Mama,
Wow, I can't believe Mila is already rolling over both ways! Sounds like you are going to have a mobile kiddo on your hands. Look out!
How cute that you got her ears pierced. I think babies look so cute with pierced ears. I'm so scared to do it though because I had the most difficult times with my ears getting infected for years. I'm scared my girls will take after me so I figure I'll let them do it when they're old enough to clean them. :D

mkvh,
I'm so sorry to hear Georgia is still so uncomfortable despite making your dietary changes. I wish I had some advice to help you, but I think in this case you just have to listen to your mothers intuition and go with what your heart tells you.

Poop
Megan's still going with just about every feeding. Even at nearly 3 years old, Caroline still goes 1-3 times a day.

Sleep
It's getting better. For the last week, Megan has been going down at 8 or 9 and waking up at 3:30 or so. Eats and goes right back to sleep. And then wakes again around 6. From there, she eats every 2-3 hours. Figures she starts sleeping just as I go back to work. :rolleyes: Not that I'm complaining since I'd have to get up to feed her anyway, but I think back to those early days when I'd be pulling all-nighters with her and would tell DH I couldn't wait for him to have his day.

Diapers
With DD1 I always noticed when she started having leaks, it was usually natures way of saying it was time to move up to the next size. I found the size charts on the diapers we're totally inaccurate. She was having to move up about 2 pounds before the high end of the range. We always used Pampers with her.

Us
I go back to work a week from today. Boo! The good thing though is that DH will stay home with the girls for 6 weeks before they have to go to daycare. Still, I didn't think it was going to be this hard. With DD1, I was kind of excited to get back to work because I was so lonely. Now, I am really loving the SAH thing. DD1 is always up for talking and megan is just as sweet as can be.
I'm worried because Megan is still refusing the bottle. We're still working with her daily on it, but are lucky if we get her to take a half ounce in a half hour. It's a good thing DH is patient! I know she won't starve herself, but it breaks my heart to think how difficult it's going to be for her until she figures out I'm not there and has no choice. I want to cry! I know I'll be sick with worry my first day back.

[WebDiva]

Liz, they did the surgery almost immediately. We had it confirmed that she has a cataract on a Thursday. She was in surgery on Tuesday afternoon. The cataract needed to be removed before she was 3 mo old in order to preserve her eyesight in that eye. We still have eye drops as well...I have that down to a science with her now and she doesn't even try or fuss anymore. I wait until she opens her eye up big and drop them in. I don't hold her lid or anything or else she fights. I just wait for her to open up...lol

[January2008Moms]

UPDATED TO HERE

[LIZNKEITH]

WebDiva,
Oh, I'm sorry. I guess I misunderstood. Surgery so young, you must have been a wreck! I can't even imagine. So, she'll still have to have the lens implant someday?
Megan was doing well with the drops, but has been fighting me the last couple of days. I do hold her lids, so maybe I'll take your expert advice and try a sneak attack. :D

[TerpsFan]

Thanks for the poo insight ladies! DD went on her own today (after the past couple of times we've had to coax it out with Babylax) and you'd think she had won the Nobel prize or something how excited I was.

She turns 4 months old on Wednesday. Where does the time go???

[WebDiva]

WebDiva,
Oh, I'm sorry. I guess I misunderstood. Surgery so young, you must have been a wreck! I can't even imagine. So, she'll still have to have the lens implant someday?
Megan was doing well with the drops, but has been fighting me the last couple of days. I do hold her lids, so maybe I'll take your expert advice and try a sneak attack. :D

Yep, a sneak attack that's exactly what I do...lol...I even change the angle that my hand is coming from so she is less likely to expect it when she sees me getting in her fact...:D

Yes I was definitely a wreck before the surgery, but she was such a trooper. :) She'll get the lens implant when she's about 2 or 3 I think.

[MaMa2D]

real quick question b/c i don't have time to search for the answer ...

our last thread was closed and now i'm freaking out b/c i wanted to remove the pictures i posted. anyone know who i can contact to unlock it to remove the pictures? or even just to ask to remove the pictures? thanks!

[mkvh]

Any mod should be able to temporarily open it for you. Try jennylou...she's around a lot.

[Loud_curly]

So, I have seen C roll over from tummy to his back (mainly when he gets frustrated with tummy time and fidgets so much that he flips over and scares himself). But this morning, when I went to wake up C for the day, I found him sleeping on his tummy!! And in a miracle blanket to boot. He managed to get both of his arms free, and I guess rolled to the corner of the crib. Guess we'll now really have to work on stopping the swaddling, huh?

[lil_geek]

lil_geek
Me: Tara
DH: Terry
It's a girl: Elizabeth Vittoria
Birthdate: 12/21/07
Time of birth: 8:04pm
Weight at birth: 6lb 15oz
Length at birth: 19.75"
Any other children: nope

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dd24b3127cceb5b5504b020e00000026100QZNWjZo3bsT

I got lost in the transfer!!

Here is my update I posted on LJ (feel free to skip!)


Hard to believe DD is 3 months old already!

10 pounds 12 ounces as of Monday March 17
23 inches long

Sleep:
Elizabeth is a great little sleeper! Essentially she is sleeping from 8-9pm to 6-7am. She has slept through the night twice. Naps aren't quite as good, but I am pretty lax - we have NO schedule during the day since I am home.

Eating:
Elizabeth is 100% breastfed. We have had the hurtles of her milk allergy. I think we have it under control!

Elizabeth eats close to every 2 hours during the day. Maybe a bit often for a 3 month old, but I think it is a lot of the reason she sleeps so well at night. If we go out, or she takes a good nap, she can go 4+ hours.

Development:
In the last month Elizabeth has changed from a newborn, into a little baby! She follows you across the room, is finding her hands, starting to reach for and grasp at things like her toys on her playmat.

Tummy time continues to be a challenge. But every other day or so she surprises me and stays there for 10-15 minutes! Some days she screams after 2! She seems to have no urge to roll from her tummy to back, but she has a LOT of movement when on her back, leading me to believe she will go back to front first. Elizabeth isn't a kicker though! Same as before she was born, she loves to squiggle and stretch! But not a lot of kicks!

Even with the 'fun' of tummy time, Elizabeth is getting VERY strong! She loves to be upright, either held up on your shoulder, or sitting on your lap. DO NOT try to cradle this kid! Even when she is on the verge of sleep she will scream if you hold her horizontally!

In the last 2 weeks she has REALLY started to talk to you! Especially in the morning when laying on the change pad. She will 'answer' you and tell you about her day. And she is starting to distiguish a happy voice, sad/mad voice and a loud voice!

Finally - Elizabeth is MAJORLY playing shy! Just before she was 2 months my dad thought she was... but it is in FULL force now. Everyone comments how young she is for it. But it is undoubtebly what is going on. In the morning she is good with Terry (or my parents when we stayed there), but by afternoon/evening.... we have a 'look but don't touch' policy! Especially if she can see me!

[MaMa2D]

LIZ- Mila's pierced ears healed so well and FAST! I was hoping that would be the case since she's so tiny. The lady that pierced her ears told me it was best to do it at this age when she's too young to really understand or wait until she's asking to have them pierced! :D I hope your first day of work isn't killer!!! I'm sure it is so nice to know that DH will be at home with the kids for awhile.

TerpsFan- ahhh the joys of pooping! haha!!! just wait until her first pee on the potty! you'll be calling people over for a celebration!

mkvh- thanks for your help! i got the photos removed!

LC- YAY for rolling over AND it being while he was asleep! that was the hardest for me with DS. as soon as i got him to sleep a little better he was flipping in his sleep and would wake up screaming. :rolleyes: it's awesome that cooper continued to sleep!

LG- YAY for a great sleeper!!! mila is still doing 1 - 2 get-ups a night. i know the second one is out of habit and i'm trying to not go to her when she gets up the 2nd time.

thanks for all the diaper recs! i bumped her up a size last night and there were no leaks this morning! although the waist of a size 3 is ridiculously huge and the tabs overlap, i'll take it!

another QOTD- when does your DC take his/her final nap for the day? mila took sort of a late nap last night and i think it messed with her night sleep a little.

[lil_geek]

QOTD: E needs a late nap... I am talking 6-7 or sometimes later. Then she is awake for less then an hour before we get her ready for bed. Generally her naps are something like this....

8-9am
10:30-11:30
1:30-2
3:30-5
6:30-7:30

bed sometime between 8:30 and 9:30

I would REALLY like to get her naps on a better/longer schedule. If we go out after lunch, she will sometimes sleep 3-4 hours straight, but not at home.

[LIZNKEITH]

TerpsFan,
I'm glad she finally went for you. I had to laugh- I can just picture you jumping around and screaming. The things we get excited about as Moms! I never though poop would become such a primary focus of my life.

WebDiva,
So I tried your sneak attack yesterday and I ended up getting eyedrops everywhere BUT her eye. You are gooood, my friend! I tried again this morning, and I at least got it in one eye. Maybe my hands are getting steadier?

Loud_curly,
That's exactly how Caroline started rolling over. We'd go in to get her in the morning and she'd be on her tummy, still swaddled in the Miracle Blanket and all. I don't know how she did it. For the longest time, she wouldn't do it for us, but we knew she could because we'd find her like that every morning.

MaMa,
Yeah, just contact a mod with the post #'s- they should be able to delete them for you.
You make a good point about the ears. I wonder if mine were always getting infected because I was 9 and would touch them all the time? At this age, they don't even know they have ears. hmmmm...

LG,
Glad you found us! Elizabeth is adorable...look at all that beautiful hair!!

QOTD- Naps
We're still kind of all over the place. I guess she usually takes one in the late afternoon (about 3 or 4) for an hour or 2 and is up to join us for dinner (about 6:00). Yes, she usually wakes up just as we are sitting down so I end up nursing at the dinner table. I guess she just wants to eat with the fam. ;) She usually goes to bed between 8 or 9.

Us
I think Megan is starting that growth spurt a few of you wrote about last week. She was up every 2 hours to feed last night. I'm spent! Yesterday she and Caroline were tag-teaming me: one would cry as they went down for a nap and would wake the other. I don't think I got 5 minutes to myself yesterday.

[January2008Moms]

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[MaMa2D]

LIZ- 2 hour naps????? i am SO jealous :p with mila i can set a timer for 45 minutes and she'll wake just as it is buzzing (DS was exactly the same). i'm in the same boat with lil_geek. and not until DS was much older did his naps lengthen. i think it was at about 9 or 10 months that i got maybe one nap a day that was an hour and a half to 2 hours and then he'd fight napping the rest of the day. am i missing something here? any advice?

[ShannonGH]

We're having some nap issues here, and I think it's due to gas. He's always had issues with gas hurting his tummy and it never fails to wake him up during his naps. His daily naps are 45 min at the most and a lot of time he wakes up crying/screaming.:( My ped said her son had gas issues too and she was so neurotic about it she cut her diet back to ONLY boiled chicken....and he still screamed from gas! The OTC meds don't work for us. She said it eventually gets better around 4 mos so I'm holding out.

[LIZNKEITH]

MaMa,
LOL...what can I say? I guess she enjoys sleep as much as I do. Her naps range anywhere from 1 hour to 4 hours (like the one she's working on right now: put her down at 11:30 and her it is 2:45 and she is STILL sleeping). I was actually concerned at how much she sleeps and mentioned it to her Ped at her 2 month WBV. He said it's normal though and so long as she's having alert wake periods and meeting her developmental milestones, it was fine.
No advice, as I think much of it is luck and depends on the kid. We've been following Weissbluth though so I'm not sure how much that has to do with anything. I did notice once I started catching her early sleep cues and putting her down tired, but awake, we've been getting longer stretches of sleep.

[Loud_curly]

Naps - We're all over the map here with naps as well. He's been doing really well with morning naps, but his afternoon naps are nothing. Daycare hasn't helped, except it reinforced the napping issue. On the weekends, we really look for those sleepy cues (like Liz), but now that he's older, he's getting much more interested in his surroundings. So instead of him napping in the car, he's now busy looking out the window.

Shannon - That's why I haven't modified my diet b/c of gas. It's hit or miss with C, but he's usually most fussy in the evenings. If it was reflux, wouldn't he be fussy all day long? I'm hoping it gets better soon (although the daycare suggested putting him on meds b/c he spits up all day long, even though it doesn't bother him at all).

LG - Welcome aboard!!! Glad to have you here!

[TazLuv]

Naps - we're all over the place too. For the most part she will go down after two hours of wakefulness for 30-45 minutes until about 4:30 in the afternoon. Then all bets are off and she goes to bed somewhere between 9-12. She was sleeping in six hour chunks at night but the past few nights she has consistently been up at 2:30 and then has been a bear to get back to sleep. We're having some breastfeeding issues that I'm finally giving up on so starting tomorrow she will be giving expressed breast milk and I'm sure this will affect her sleeping and napping for a while.

ShannonGH - we had/have gas issues too. I gave up dairy about six weeks ago and I'm slowly reintroducing it. The gas issues have gotten MUCH better though I haven't tried putting a glass of milk or yogurt back in. Right now I just have dairy that is in things, like cheese on pizza. Once we get her feeding issues taken care of I'll probably try the milk/yogurt again I'm told sometimes their digestive systems just need more time to develop.

[pelican75]

Oooh oooh ooh! Here I am! I've been so out of the loop around here. But yay, now I have something to do when I'm bored at work. ha ha!

Let's see...stats:

pelican75
Me: Pam
DH: George
It's some boys: Linus, Oliver, Miles
Birthdate: 12/4/07
Time of birth: 6:54am, 6:55am, 6:56am
Weight at birth: 4lb 10oz, 4lb 10oz, 4lb 2oz
Length at birth: 17, 17, 17 (or something like that. heh.)
Any other children: no. thank god!

The boys will be four months old on Friday, so I'll post updated stats then. They're 10 weeks adjusted, though, so they're definitely closer to the mid-to-late January babies for developmental milestones. I have to admit, I get a pang when I see babies born after them doing a lot more. But I have to remember they were born at 33w2d!

Hmmm, what else...here's a pic of when they were first born, and one from a few days ago...

Then:
(the first picture I have of all three of us together. just a bonus that it's from national news. ha ha!)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2354/2092521006_b0ac13b0c4.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2257/2104670356_aedde53090.jpg?v=0

Now:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2026/2375368141_4c2fcfeb45.jpg?v=0
Wow. They've grown, haven't they? :p

[LIZNKEITH]

Taz,
Ugh...it's not the getting up in the middle of the night that's so bad, it's getting them back to sleep! I'm sorry she's been giving you trouble. Hopefully she'll get back on track again.

Pam,
Yeah! I was hoping you'd come over here and even out the Boy/Girl Score. ;) Every time I see the boys they are in a different, cuter onesie. Where in the world do you find these things?

Victory on the Homefront
Megan finally took a bottle tonight! Hallelujuah! I was so worried what with me going back to work this Monday and all. One less thing to worry about.

[mkvh]

Wow...busy day today!

I can't believe we have babies rolling both ways ALREADY! That's just nuts to me. Weren't they just born?

Naps--Eh...we nap whenever she's tired! Still following the no-more-than-2-hours rule, but we rarely make it that long. We get a good nap about an hour after waking for the day and then usually a nice, long one when big sister naps in the afternoon. We too have a late one close to dinner time.

LC--Eeek! So cool!!

LG--How cool that E is chatting. Did you go no-soy in addition to the dairy elim?

MaMa--Woo hooo for no leaks. We're moving to 3s too, as soon as this package is done. I'm so sick of changing pjs....

Liz--Sorry 'bout the growth spurt, but yippppeeeee for taking a bottle!

Shannon--So sorry 'bout the gas :( Poor little guy. You feel so sorry for them.

Pam--EEK! They're getting SO big. I thought of you Saturday--I was at our local MOMs group's sale, and there were TWO triple Baby Joggers. The price was right too ;)


Us--Nothing much new here. G decided she needed to eat every hour this afternoon while we were at the zoo. Grrrr... Still struggling with the decision about reflux meds. We've had a couple good days, so maybe that's not the issue... I like LC's take that they'll eventually grow out of this.

[MaMa2D]

popping in real quick to ask pelican75- how DO you do it????? :eek: after i had DS, i kept saying that i have no idea how mothers of multiples survive. God bless you ... that is all i can say! :D and how ridiculously ironic that i am watching a "triple the triplets" show as i checked in tonight to meet/find you! they are TOO dang cute, BTW!

ETA ... OMG they are fricken identical!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (you must hear that ALL the time ... sorry :p)

[pelican75]

ack, i have so much catching up to do before i can start on s/o's, but just wanted to say - mkvh - i wish i'd have gone to that sale! i really want a triple jogger. but they're soooo $$$!

liz - one of our friends gave us a bunch of sets of three coordinating onesies at our shower. they were all 0-3 month size, though, so they won't fit for much longer. They're mostly in 3-6 stuff now, but since we have so many of these sets of three, i'm trying to get as much wear out of them as possible.

mama2d - ha ha ha! all i can say is...i don't know any better. :) these are our first kids, so at least i have nothing to compare it to. ha ha!

[sdauer21]

I'm having a very rare quiet moment so this is going to be quick - Pam I saw you on the news!! My dd was born right after your boys, so I was actually watching morning news and happened to catch the story about you and your threesome. Having been a terrible lurker, I recognized your story and even grabbed DH to show him! :o Anyway - your boys are adorable!

Hi to everyone...we've been in nap/sleep hell, so I'd love to commiserate, but I'm off to crawl in to bed early in the hopes of getting a few hours of zzz's before The Mouth wakes, starving! Will's finally back at work so I might get a few minutes on the computer over the next few days - trying to pop in to catch up! :)

ETA: meant to drop these off. I'll delete in a few days - the girls, at Easter, and a recent one of Eden (I have Big Sister shirts for the big girls, but can't get them to wear them all at the same time).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/sdauer21/Easter%202008/Easter5JPG.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/sdauer21/Spring08002.jpg

[aligirl]

pam! glad you could join us! I can't believe the trips are going to be 4 months soon! WOW! :) Congrats on that accomplishment! :)

sdauer21 - your girls are sooooo adorable! :)

naps - Cate's still pretty inconsistent with naps. Monday she took 2 2-hour naps, yesterday just 1 2-hour nap in the morning. We'll see what today brings. Fortunately, she actually slept last night from about 11-6 (unlike the previous night of 1-4:30 sleep and that's all) so I won't feel dead at work today! YAY for sleep! Alex was a great sleeper from pretty much the beginning so I'm struggling with this....that and I have to get up around 5 to make sure I have myself ready for when she wakes up and wants to eat - and for Alex too! Eeegads.

[pelican75]

sdauer - your girls are so adorable! love their matching outfits. :) funny about the news thing. it was so silly - i'm still not sure why it was newsworthy, but whatever. it was fun and it'll be cool to show the boys when they are older.

naps... i've been really bad about keeping track of their schedule, so i don't even know when their naps usually are. my in-laws have been watching them three days a week while i've been at work part time, and i don't know what they do with the boys, to be honest. but next week, they start daycare, so their schedule will be a lot more consistent. i'm trying to figure out how to work it, based on the advice of other triplet moms. right now, they tend to nap for about an hour or two at a time between feedings. i try to keep them awake for an hour or two before hand, but it doesn't always work. they tend to get cranky, fast.

really, i'm just taking it day by day. the only real routine we have is bedtime, which is bottle then bath. if they don't get their bath, they don't sleep nearly as well. i've got the five minute bath down to a science. :)

[WebDiva]

Aww...look at the cute little ones! :)

WebDiva,
So I tried your sneak attack yesterday and I ended up getting eyedrops everywhere BUT her eye. You are gooood, my friend! I tried again this morning, and I at least got it in one eye. Maybe my hands are getting steadier?


:) That happened to me a few times. It really just takes a lot of patience because sometimes she moves her head around when she sees me getting close to her face...lol...I just wait a moment or two for the opportune moment to get a drop in. lol Fortunately for us after Friday the drops are over! :D

I'm a little jealous because of all the babies rolling over. A seems to want to, but she's not there yet. Maybe she needs more tummy time? :confused:

[pelican75]

Okay, I'm bored at work and so I've just done a read-through of the entire thread. Whew! I know I'm still going to forget some things, but I'm going to try to catch up a little and ask a few questions myself.

STTN - even though the boys are technically some of the oldest babies in the thread, since they were almost 7 weeks early, they're developmentally pretty young (I was due on Jan 20). Still, they're 10 weeks adjusted now and I think they should be sleeping longer. (Wishful thinking, perhaps?)

If I feed them more often during the day (note: they are FF with bottles) might they sleep better at night? This seems so obvious, but I just wonder if anyone can confirm this. I really shouldn't complain - they are pretty much only waking up once to eat (they'll sleep from 10-2, then wake up ravenous, and then sleep until 7.) If it was only one baby, it'd be fine, but it takes nearly an hour to get all three fed, changed, and reswaddled. And sometimes they won't go right back to sleep if we have pacifier issues. :rolleyes:

Anyway...they eat basically every 3-4 hours during the day. I wonder if I push it to 2.5-3 hours between feedings, maybe they'll sleep longer? Hmm.

Sorry to babble on about that. You gals just seem so much more "with it" than me. Sigh.


So anyway. I also want to say that I love all of the baby names in this thread, they're so beautiful! And such cute babies! I can't see most of the pics from work, but the ones I can see are sweet!

I wonder when they'll start rolling over? Here's another issue I have. With three babies, it's very hard to have much one-on-one time with them. So we don't get as much tummy time as we should. I try to do it every day, and I try to just put them on their activity mat as much as I can, but it's hard. :( I worry that they spend too much time swaddled, or in their swings, or just in our laps, and not enough time on flat surfaces. Like, how are they going to learn to roll over if they're not on the floor or something?

Sigh...

On the subject of poops, (tee hee) they used to poop with every.diaper.change. Ugh, and formula poop is STINKY! Thank goodness in the last month or so it's dropped down to once a day. Of course, that once a day is horrific, but at least it's just once. :)

[WebDiva]

Sorry pelican , I can't answer your question (DD is BF'ed), but I was just wondering about the sleeping. DD still wakes up 2 to 3 times per night. This is not normal at this stage??? She usually goes right back to sleep after eating, but sometimes she'll stay up for a bit. I just started back to work last week so she has started staying up a bit more after a feeding. I thought it was normal until I just read your comment about the boys waking up once in the middle of the night.

[pelican75]

Well, I don't know if it's normal or not (maybe just wishful thinking!) but it seems like everyone else's babies are STTN. Hmm. Maybe I just need to be more patient. :p

[Loud_curly]

Pelican - First of all, welcome!!! Your boys are just the cutest things, and I marvel at how well you're all doing! And you're working - what a powerful working mom!!

As for the rolling, don't beat yourself up over them not rolling yet. C is/has not been a fan of tummy time, so he would only get a few minutes each day if that. He's also a big fan of being held, so he's not on the floor all that much. I have no idea how he learned to roll - I've only seen him do it once (but he obviously does it at night).

As for STTN, I think it's hit or miss and depends on the child. I'm guessing that you'll have an even harder time than many of us b/c if one gets up, he may very well wake the other 2 up. And we're still up once a night as well.

[pelican75]

loud - i am laughing at your earlier post where you said your son scared himself by rolling over. it reminds me of miles, who is our little houdini. i regularly find him with his arms out of the MB, freaking out because those flailing limbs (they're called arms, and they're attached to you, dear) scared him half to death.

babies are funny! and silly! :D

[LIZNKEITH]

mkvh,
G's feeding schedule has me very afraid since she is only a week older than Megan. Please tell me that's not what I have to "look forward to" next week.

Pam,
I always found onesies lasted us much longer. At least for us. They're so long and well, my kids are so short. :D
Feeding- Hmmm...Megan is BF'd so it may be a little different but she eats every 2-3 hours during the day for the most part and still gets up once during the night, too. You could try adding another feeding during the day and see if that helps, but it may just be that their tummies are still tiny and still need that night feeding. I can't even imagine...if both of my girls wake up it stresses me out. I can't imagine having another hungry, crying mouth to tend to. You need to hire and octopus as a nanny.
Don't stress about the rolling. As I mentioned earlier, Caroline started rolling over in her sleep while swaddled in her Miracle Blanket. For weeks we found her like this, but she never did it during her wake times. Don't beat yourself up- they're getting all the exercise they need. We're pretty bad about tummy time ourselves, but she spends a lot of time on our chests and gets the same neck/head workout from that.

sdauer,
What gorgeous girls you have! DH better start shining his shotgun. ;)

Web Diva,
Megan does the same thing. She'll start shaking her head excitedly and smiling (which causes her eyes to squint). It's a mess! Hopefully she won't be on them much longer either.

Rolling Over
With the exception of when she was an hour old, not here yet either. I can tell she's trying and it's driving her crazy that she can't. She'll lift her little legs up and swing them side to side trying to build up momentum.

[TazLuv]

Hey ladies, just time to comment on a few things.

STTN - Adele was sleeping from 11-6 or 7 before her cold, now she's waking up at least once if not twice but she's sounding less congested today so I'm hoping she'll go back to it soon.

Rolling over - Not here yet either, though she's craned her neck around far enough a few times that she's started that direction. She can do a "push-up" when she's on tummy time so I suppose its coming.

Yay! for new members! :D

[MaMa2D]

naps- as I'm typing this, Mila is napping and has been for over an HOUR :D WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOO!!! there really is no set schedule here for naps ... just the sleepy cues and we are Weissbluth's biggest fans :p(it's the only book that helped get DS to sleep)!

rolling over- IMO, it is SO up to the baby (just like everything else). i didn't set aside specific tummy time with mila because she started rolling from her back to tummy when she was about 2 months old. she sort of initiated it on her own and once she got tired of being on her tummy, she would flip to her back and is now rolling.

Sorry to babble on about that. You gals just seem so much more "with it" than me. Sigh.

uhmmm ... pelican, we each have ONE infant!!! good LORD! you make me feel like a failure as a mother when i read how great your babIES are! as far as STTN, i think one get-up a night is awesome at this point. i'm sure it is a lot of work for you and hearing that other babies are sleeping without getting up is tough, but i'm sure over time they will do the same.

sdauer- they are TOO cute!!! they each have suck striking eyes!

Taz- i hope adele feels better soon! so not fun when they're sick. as soon as mila's congestion went away, she started sleeping better at night.

BBL ... DS wants to play "cars" and has been chanting "cars, cars, cars" for the past 5 minutes. :rolleyes:

[sdauer21]

The banshees are ready for dinner (aka - running up and down the hallway screaming!), so this will be super quick.

Thanks for the compliments on the girls. They crack me up on a daily basis! Of course, today at the park, someone asked how old "he" was (referring to Eden, who was pretty bundled up). There was no way to tell she was a girl, but it cracked me up, knowing how much PINK she has - it's rare that she's not head to toe girl! Ah, the perils of 2 older sisters and 2 older girl cousins. :rolleyes:

STTN - Well, I handsomely jinxed myself last time I talked about sleep, and I'm still paying for it! E was STTN since about 6 weeks, but gave that up in rare style last week. Since I went on spring break, she has yet to sleep more then a few hours at a shot - last night, she went down at 8:30 and got up to eat at 1:30, 3:30, 4:45 and then for good at 6:45. I don't know if my supply is just that disasterous, if she's still growing, or if she's just doing it for comfort. I do know she needs to get over it soon! :p

Rolling - she's only done it once, and like someone else said (Tara?), she managed to scare herself doing it! It was purely by accident, and though she's seemed close a few other times, she's definitely not there yet. She doesn't seem to mind tummy time, so we try to get some of that in each day. she's pretty strong and likes to lift herself up to look in the crib mirror, but doesn't seem too interested in rolling. I'm fine with that - I'll take immobility as long as I can get it!

Naps - ugghh...I wish we had a better schedule. We're still hit and miss most days. Sometimes, she'll get in a good morning and afternoon, sometimes just one or the other, sometimes neither, just cat naps all day. I can't imagine the chaos brought on by her sisters has anything to do with the irregularity?! :rolleyes: But it's been pretty dicey. I was able to say that at least she was sleeping all night, but we can't even say that right now. And mostly, I'm too tired to try to fix it. Or to counsel DH, who is home with the gang all day. I'm kind of biding my time a little longer until I'm done with work for the summer, in the hopes it will either resolve itself or i can tackle it then.

Ok...can't stall on dinner any longer! Back later :D

[ShannonGH]

I'll take immobility as long as I can get it!

I hear ya!!!

[WebDiva]

I have been back to work for a week and A has decided that she's not going to sleep well at all since then. I don't know what's going on. I'm so much more tired now that I'm back to work even though I'm waking up at the same time. Last night she decided to be up at 4:15 and took the longest time to go back to sleep. I am miserable today. Since I have been back to work I have been making DH get up some of the time and change her diaper so that we are both equally miserable...lol

[mkvh]

WD--She wants to spend time with you! REALLY! Plus, if she's eating more, she's probably "reverse cycling", eating more from you to make up for what she doesn't get/take from the bottle while you're gone. Hang in there!


Went to get pictures of the 2 girls today. When I get them, I will have to share. G is getting so big!

[aligirl]

WebDiva - I think mkvh is right. Cate sort of does the same thing - she's attached to me at night.... Hang in there! Monday night was awful for us since she only slept about 3 hours total (first day back to work) but she's adjusted and actually slept last night! Hang in there.

[WebDiva]

Thanks mkvh and aligirl...it sure is rough, but I guess I understand. Her first 3.5 months, it was all me all day...lol. Whew...I might have to start napping after work. I finally know why people drink coffee...lol. I seriously thought I was going to fall asleep while pumping this morning.

I have noticed that she eats more often in the evenings then she used to...I guess that is reverse cycling.

[ShannonGH]

mkvh- can't wait to see the pictures!

Max & I had another photo shoot yesterday while big sis was napping. :)

Look at this big boy!
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l273/shannonhaney/Picture028.jpg?t=1207246331

He got daddy's (and Noa's) blue eyes.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l273/shannonhaney/CopyofPicture030.jpg?t=1207246427

He's lost a lot of his hair recently due to the meds we're having to use from the seborrhea. He has bald spots now on the sides of his head (in addition to the normal one on the back) and his hair line is receding. :(

[mkvh]

His body shape JUST reminds me of G!! And how did you get so lucky to get TWO blue eyed kiddos? I got one and one with dark eyes like me!

I'm in a quandry with nursing bras. Driving me batty...

[TazLuv]

Eyes - speaking of eyes, if they're going to change color when do they do that? Adele has the deepest blue eyes I've ever seen and I love the color. ;)

[mkvh]

Eyes changing color--IIRC, the vast majority of the pigment that will deposit in irises is there by 6 months. With DD1 (my total genetic freak of a blue-eyed child), her ped said at her 2 month visit that he was reasonably sure that they would stay blue. They were a darker "denim" blue then progressively got lighter. My nephew had very similar eyes, though, and at about 12-18m, his turned grey. Most changes in eye color are complete by a year, I think.

I still haven't decided what G's are going to be. Mine are light brown; DH's are green. It seems hers may be somewhere in between.

[lil_geek]

Interesting on the eyes... DD's are blue-grey right now. I think it is pretty cool since I have DARK brown eyes... and Dh's are 'technicolor' (they are kinda hazel but will look blue or green depending on what he is wearing). My mom is hoping for green eyes from DD!

You ladies move quick in here!!

[LIZNKEITH]

WD,
Ditto what mkvh and Ali said. It's very common for BF'd babies to do that. One of the many reasons I'm NOT looking forward to going back to work on Monday. I'm already tired as it is!

Eyes
megan's have already gotten lighter, too. They started out a deep, dark blue. Now they are lightening up. I think she'll end up having the same shade of blue as her sister.

Shannon,
Max is adorable! I love me some chunky baby thighs!

mkvh,
Have you tried the Bravado microfiber nursing bra? Me likey. Very comfortable. It's does give a little bit on a uni-boob, but comfort and function win out these days.

[pelican75]

oh, shannon, max is so cute! my boys have blue eyes too, which is just so weird. i mean, i know most babies have blue eyes, but i have dark brown eyes (always have, even as a baby) and my husband has hazel eyes. i have a feeling they're going to stay blue, because they've gotten lighter, not darker. we'll see. i just feel like it'd be so strange to have blue-eyed children! :p

[WebDiva]

WD,
Ditto what mkvh and Ali said. It's very common for BF'd babies to do that. One of the many reasons I'm NOT looking forward to going back to work on Monday. I'm already tired as it is!


:( I hope that this ends soon. She has me worn out!

[mkvh]

oh, shannon, max is so cute! my boys have blue eyes too, which is just so weird. i mean, i know most babies have blue eyes, but i have dark brown eyes (always have, even as a baby) and my husband has hazel eyes. i have a feeling they're going to stay blue, because they've gotten lighter, not darker. we'll see. i just feel like it'd be so strange to have blue-eyed children! :p

This is so me! DD1 has gorgeous blue eyes while mine are brown and Dh's are hazel/green. Never imagined myself w/ a blue eyed child for sure!!

[lil_geek]

Playing Shy

DD has been doing this for nearly a month (yup, this she started early - rolling she could care less!!). Anyway, the biggest issue is she HATES DH! She will scream if he looks at her the wrong way. I can maybe get a few minutes in the morning when she is happy that she will sit with him, but after work, na-da.


Anyone else going through this? Any suggestions?


(I know it will be hard since I am with her 24-7 and DH is gone from about 8am-5:30 pm)

[MaMa2D]

so sorry to hear about everyone's rough nights ... i had one myself last night. i guess it wasn't TOO bad. put her down at about 7:45 and she woke at 11:45 and 4:30. we are up for the day now. it's just tough when the night before she slept from 7PM to 4:30 am, ate and then slept until 7:15. i'm wondering if it's a growth spurt since she was hungry both times i went to her. she's 16 wks on monday.

ShannonGH- oh my GOSH, max is adorable.

eye color- DS has the most beautiful blue eyes like DH, while i have dark brown/black eyes. we were all shocked that his stayed blue. Mila's eyes are the same blue that DS had at this age, but i just feel like they're going to change. is it lame to say that i really hope they turn dark brown like mine and not the weird light brown that is almost a non-color? i guess i should just thank God she has two beautiful eyes that she can see through. ;)

lil_geek- i wish i could offer some advice. DS was and still is extremely shy, but never with DH as a baby. as he got older and didn't see DH as much due to his working, he definitely became attached to me and wouldn't go to him as much. we solved the problem by having DH spend lots of time with him without me in the same room. do you leave DD alone with DH ... so that she doesn't see you?

[lil_geek]

Mama - I am wondering about another growth spurt too... we are only a few days behind you and E was up twice last night to eat and was ravenous each time!!!

We haven't progressed to her spending time with me out of the room yet, so far she will scream at him if he kisses her and I am holding her. Ugh!

(I hate to say - I have tried to guilt DH into spending more time with her on the weekends - I feel if we don't try working on this now it will get worse. SHe was more comfy with my parents when we went up to their place last week.)

[LIZNKEITH]

Growth Spurts
kellymom.com outlines growth spurts occurring at or around a few days old, 7-10 days old, 2-3 weeks, 4-6 weeks, 3 months, 4 months, 6 months, and 9 months. So yeah, those of you December Mommies are probably embarking on a new one yourselves. Fun, no?

Sleep
For the past week, I could set a clock by Megan's sleep. Down at 8-9, up at 2-3, up agai