Do you blog here?

[isign]

Just curious, do you use the new blog feature? Why or why not?

[jeepgirl]

The "feel" of this site has changed. I don't feel comfortable blogging here although I really enjoyed journaling here back when we had journals.

[zhannushka]

The "feel" of this site has changed. I don't feel comfortable blogging here although I really enjoyed journaling here back when we had journals.
ditto!

[isign]

I totally agree with ya'll!

[kindermom]

No. The site does not feel very welcoming anymore. Not to mention, things are getting deleted without much apparent reason. I would prefer not to give the site any additional resources considering there is an apparent lack of respect for the users. I am not sure if they would respect my blogging.

[LDS Angel 19]

For whatever reason, I could never keep up with my CC journal. And the blog format is totally annoying, so now I've totally given up.

[chefker]

No. The site does not feel very welcoming anymore. Not to mention, things are getting deleted without much apparent reason. I would prefer not to give the site any additional resources considering there is an apparent lack of respect for the users. I am not sure if they would respect my blogging.

ITA 1000%. So not just a no, but a hell no for me.

[thedoorchick]

I have three other blogs to keep up with. So, no.

[PG-rated]

1. The format sucks, both in terms of posting and reading.
2. I don't trust that I will retain the ability to control whatever content I put up.

So, no.

[KK812]

I never journaled here, but I don't even read the blogs like I used to read journals. Just not user-friendly at all.

[BethIrish]

No, I never had a journal either. But I liked perusing the journals and following other people's stories. I can't see myself doing that with the blogs.

[sparkle&shine]

No. If I wanted to blog I would just use LJ where I know that I would always have control over my info. I just don't care for the fomat. I loved the threaded journals and really miss them. If I had wanted to blog and liked that format I am sure I would have been using LJ long ago and wouldn't have a need for the blog feature here anyway.

[Kanga]

No, I don't and can't trust that my info won't just disappear into cyberspace one day. I've found other boards that are much more user friendly - in terms of format and respect of posters, and then of course there's always LJ.

[kedzieb]

No, I use LJ for that. I feel like message boards like CC are great for sharing information and getting a variety of opinions. I hope it stays that way.

[zhannushka]

Hmmm, not even one Yes, huh? :rolleyes:

[jmvan74]

No, I use LJ for that. I feel like message boards like CC are great for sharing information and getting a variety of opinions. I hope it stays that way.

Agreed.

[Dally]

No, but I didn't journal here, either. But I did enjoy the thread format and occasionally read and posted in other people's journals.

So why did the journals change to blogs? It doesn't sound like the users requested it. Has anyone explained it yet?

[apoppy]

I did and then I deleted it. The format is entirely too user unfriendly and the promised how-to FAQ has yet to appear. There is absolutely no value in the blogs to me.

And, after considering it, I decided that I didn't want to participate in a format that my someday go "poof" without warning just like the journals.

[May27JnJ]

No. The site does not feel very welcoming anymore. Not to mention, things are getting deleted without much apparent reason. I would prefer not to give the site any additional resources considering there is an apparent lack of respect for the users. I am not sure if they would respect my blogging.

ITA 1000%. So not just a no, but a hell no for me.

Double ditto.

[bunny nose]

No, I don't and can't trust that my info won't just disappear into cyberspace one day. I've found other boards that are much more user friendly - in terms of format and respect of posters, and then of course there's always LJ.

Care to share those boards? I am s looking for someplace else to set up a journal.

I don't blog here or LJ. I signed up over there since some of my journal buddies are there, but I don't like it. I really like the way the journals were here. I feel as if we have no say in anything. Considering I donated $25, or whatever it was, last year to the board, as I am sure many others have, you would think we would have a say in things.

[PinkMartini]

Nope, like others have said, it just doesn't feel comfortable anymore. Plus holding our threads 'hostage' rubs me the wrong way

[Linz]

No. I miss the former journal format. It's all entirely too user unfriendly.

[RobynScott]

Considering I donated $25, or whatever it was, last year to the board, as I am sure many others have, you would think we would have a say in things.

Seriously!

[miaclear]

I us LJ. That's enough for me.

[malala]

Off topic, but I don't know where else to ask this question.
Am I the only one unable to post on the new administrator's thread?

[udsweetpea]

No, I've always thought the addition of blogs on this site was pretty dumb.

[Linz]

Off topic, but I don't know where else to ask this question.
Am I the only one unable to post on the new administrator's thread?

Your lucky you can even see the post. A lot of people are being locked out of forums with no warning and reason.

[isign]

Off topic, but I don't know where else to ask this question.
Am I the only one unable to post on the new administrator's thread?

I think everything had to be approved first. I also posted, but it never showed up.

I have a blog, with one post just checking it out. I just like the journals, and hate that they are gone. I do have an LJ, but really don't like that format at all.

[boilermaker]

I loved the thread format journals and am really sad to see them gone. The blogs don't do it for me, so off to LJ I went. The format there is not what I would like, but all my friends are there, so that is what I will do.

I will comment on the donation remark though. I too made a donation, but I see it more as a thank you for all the info I gained from this board. But since it was voluntary, it's kind of liking making a donation to say the Humane Society or Boy Scouts. Surely you don't expect to get a say in how those things are run simply by giving them $25???? I don't see how CC is any different.

[malala]

I didn't even get to post. The "posting window" isn't showing for me.

[boilermaker]

The thread for the new admin was quickly locked, so no body can post in it for now. Before that, it was moderated posts only, so it took a little while for posts to show up.

[ambula704]

I think the new admin. thought everyone would be warm and fuzzy with their welcome messages. When it turned out that everyone had honest questions that deserved answers, she quickly locked it down..."technical reasons" I suppose...

[malala]

boilermaker, I appreciate you explaining what's going on. But this is an exact example of what's bothering me.
Things have been happening that don't make any sense, and nobody explains anything to us. And I do also fear like other people what's gonna happen to me if I ask too many questions.

And I truly don't mean this in a snarky way, but I guess you know what happened because you're friends with Jennylou. I don't think it's fair to the rest of us to just be left out in the dark.

[May27JnJ]

I have a feeling this thread will not stay open much longer.

[isign]

I do think this is exactly the kind of discussion that needs to be had. I think it's silly to close threads that are talking about the goings on of CC. Censor and Moderate all you want, but the only thing that's being accomplished by that is frustration and anger. These types of threads (discussion) will continue to pop-up and the best thing to do is to answer questions. Obviously we all care about CC and want to see it continue, which is why people are fighting so hard for answers.

[pixiecat]

ugh. I feel like I'm re-living the WC debacle. I don't want to have to find another new home :(

That aside, how come I don't have access to view other people's blogs (when I click on the blog count number in their post header?)

[jmvan74]

ugh. I feel like I'm re-living the WC debacle. I don't want to have to find another new home :(

That aside, how come I don't have access to view other people's blogs (when I click on the blog count number in their post header?)


I believe the blogs have privacy settings.

[pixiecat]

ah, I see. Thanks!

[sparkle&shine]

I think the new admin. thought everyone would be warm and fuzzy with their welcome messages. When it turned out that everyone had honest questions that deserved answers, she quickly locked it down..."technical reasons" I suppose...

Yeah, and I love how questions were directed to be asked in the board suggestion area where or course no one else can see the questions or answers.

Of course now I feel like I need to be paranoid about getting an infraction or something for even questioning anything.

[hockeybrat]

No, I have LJ for that. I don't want to feel like I have to watch what I say because I might piss off TPTB or get detention or something.

[ambula704]

Yeah, and I love how questions were directed to be asked in the board suggestion area where or course no one else can see the questions or answers.

Of course now I feel like I need to be paranoid about getting an infraction or something for even questioning anything.


Yeah, me too...like its the Salem witch trials or something! Thats the first time I have EVER questioned anything on here! But I feel like this is just getting out of hand! If LJ weren't blocked at work I would never visit CC...because all my friends journal there, as do I.

I love how we are able to learn so much here...EXCEPT what is going on with the bannings and such. We are all adults, WE CAN HANDLE THE TRUTH!

[Kanga]

Care to share those boards? I am s looking for someplace else to set up a journal.

letsjusttalk.com It's technically a message board, but the regular users use it mainly for journaling. At first glance, it looks like a dead board, but that's because they don't post much in forums, but rather their journals and you have to pay a subscription fee to see the journals - $20/year or $2.50/month recurring.

[isobel]

Am I totally clueless... because I can not even find the individual blogs. The system is very confusing.

[PG-rated]

letsjusttalk.com It's technically a message board, but the regular users use it mainly for journaling. At first glance, it looks like a dead board, but that's because they don't post much in forums, but rather their journals and you have to pay a subscription fee to see the journals - $20/year or $2.50/month recurring.

I'll second Let's Just Talk (http://www.letsjusttalk.com). The journals there are really active, and people have made some really close friendships. And now that there are more CCers over there, there are more conversations in the regular forums, too.

[laura]

I want a detention!

No, I do not blog here, but I did not have a journal here either. That good fun died for me with WC.

ETA: I doubt boilermaker knows more than average b/c she is friends w/ jennylou. I knew what she posted, too, and I am not close friends w/ JL. I think everything she posted is actually recapped in that thread (?) or at least easily located elsewhere.

[malala]

ETA: I doubt boilermaker knows more than average b/c she is friends w/ jennylou. I knew what she posted, too, and I am not close friends w/ JL. I think everything she posted is actually recapped in that thread (?) or at least easily located elsewhere.

My bad then, if that's the case.

[gardenmommy]

No, I do not blog here, but I did not have a journal here either. That good fun died for me with WC.


Amen!

I actually broke down and started a journal here about 6 months ago because I loved my WC one so much, and is was awesome to have that outlet again. I made some fun new buddies and felt much more connected here than I ever have, and poof it was taken away.

I'm getting ready to start a journal over on Lets just Talk because I despise the set-up (certainly not the people) over on LJ.

[PookiePrincess]

If you like the old CC journal format, you should journal at LJT (as stated by PGRated and Kanga). The format is the exact same journal format, you just have to pay to journal. That essentially makes it a bit safer because at least the lurkers paid money to the site to lurk in journals.

I, too, will not blog here EVER. I don't agree with the turn things have taken and am only sticking around for my mommy's thread and maybe some parenting advice.

[TwnklToes80]

Did anyone else feel like a 5 yr old being reprimanded in the new Admin's welcome thread?

Oh, and I third www.letsjusttalk.com. i stopped by there a cpl weeks and like it so far. And there's always LJ....

[JenniferEC]

Am I totally clueless... because I can not even find the individual blogs. The system is very confusing.
ITA!

[Michelle]

I'm getting ready to start a journal over on Lets just Talk

Let me know when you start it! :)



I tried the blog here, but it didn't work out. I didn't like the format and it was way too confusing. So I'm splitting my time journal time between LJ and LJT.

If anybody else starts a journal over at LJT and looking for a new journal buddy, let me know. I'll stop by!

[yby1]

I might use it. I've had an LJ for years now, so I'll continue to use that for personal stuff, but I might use a blog here to talk about something fun.

I have nothing against this site or whatever supposed censorship that's happening.

[Ali]

Out of curiousity...

Who's in charge of LJT, who started it, what is it's background info, and how did so many people here come to find out about it?

[MrsWilson]

Just to throw this out for people interested in journaling, but do not want to pay, or just want to have a new home. There is a new message board at www.lipsticksociety.com that has journals. It is set up like this one. There are a few people over there and it seems to be doing fairly nice. Feel free to check it out.

[laura]

Just to throw this out for people interested in journaling, but do not want to pay, or just want to have a new home. There is a new message board at www.lipsticksociety.com that has journals. It is set up like this one. There are a few people over there and it seems to be doing fairly nice. Feel free to check it out.

Whose board is it?

[MrsWilson]

Whose board is it?
My husband and I started it. It is completely free to us. We are using a free server and free site. We just wanted to know how to run one and decided to give it a try for fun. With everything that has happened around here, we thought we'd let others know about it.

[yby1]

My husband and I started it. It is completely free to us. We are using a free server and free site. We just wanted to know how to run one and decided to give it a try for fun. With everything that has happened around here, we thought we'd let others know about it.

So the masses can bludgeon you with copious amounts of drama then, when you finally breakdown and try to do something about it, they say you are on a powertrip? Good times! ;)

[MrsWilson]

So the masses can bludgeon you with copious amounts of drama then, when you finally breakdown and try to do something about it, they say you are on a powertrip? Good times! ;)
I don't expect anything. Honestly, most drama doesn't phase me. It is a message board. We started it just to see how it is run. Whatever happens, happens. Thought I'd offer for those who want to try it out.

[1_mommy]

nope.
i like the privacy of lj much better

[boilermaker]

My bad then, if that's the case.

laura is correct. I haven't even talked to Jenny today. I knew what was going on in the thread because it was discussed on LJ.

[Toonces]

To me, journals =/= blogs.

I didn't journal here. I don't plan to have blog posts here. I journal on LJ and LJT.

LJT started when UW went kerflooey. Jennerator (Jenn) is the Admin and she's awesome.

[PookiePrincess]

Out of curiousity...

Who's in charge of LJT, who started it, what is it's background info, and how did so many people here come to find out about it?

Like Toonces said, Jennerator (Jenn) started it after UW had a lot bannings and imploded. It's been around since '03 (I believe) and we found out about it on WC on LJ from some CC members who are also LJT members. Jenn is awesome and it's extremely laid back.

[Kanga]

Yeah, LJT the complete opposite of what cc is. Threads aren't regular locked down and when they are it's to help with the bnadwith or some other mumbo jumbo I don't understand. There's mods, but (and I hope they don't get offended) they don't do much. Not because there lazy or anything, just laid back and they prefer to just let the members be other than the spammers.

[Kimberland30]

I started a blog here, thought "oh this sucks" and deleted it. I had a journal here but since it's been locked, I'm kinda upset about the whole blog/journal thing. I liked that everyone I normally 'talked' to also had a journal here, instead of going to different sites and dealing with different formats. I just don't like the blog feature and don't understand why they switched. I can see the privacy issue, but seriously, this is the web. If you don't want your sh!t out there, don't post it in a public forum. Duh.

I love the treads here, and I'm still all for CC. I've been going to DIY Chatroom (http://www.diychatroom.com) more and more often for home projects (there just isn't the response here like I get over there). It's set up just like CC so it was easy for me to navigate around. I keep my ideas in a folder on my computer instead of a journal now.

[maplekitty]

Absolutely not! i hate the format of the blog, it is so user *un-friendly*!
I'm quite happy with my LJ :)

[Pineknot]

Gosh, I'm glad this thread was started. I've been wondering what the heck's going on with this board. I didn't journal here, but I really became attached to several people that did. I actually feel like I've lost some friends. Also, others have great taste, or we share the same hobbies, or their lives were going through changes and now I've lost touch with all that. Some were expecting babies and I wonder if they have had them. :(

Kimberland, thanks for sharing that link. I miss sharing the DIY projects. Also, I will check out the letsjusttalk board as well.

[kithara]

I don't plan to blog here, but I had just restarted my journal when they were closed down. I loved the format of the threaded journals and blogs don't even come close. If I were to start blogging, I would use my LJ account.

[PookiePrincess]

Gosh, I'm glad this thread was started. I've been wondering what the heck's going on with this board. I didn't journal here, but I really became attached to several people that did. I actually feel like I've lost some friends. Also, others have great taste, or we share the same hobbies, or their lives were going through changes and now I've lost touch with all that. Some were expecting babies and I wonder if they have had them. :(

That's because no one wants us to talk about what happened.

[RobynScott]

I will comment on the donation remark though. I too made a donation, but I see it more as a thank you for all the info I gained from this board. But since it was voluntary, it's kind of liking making a donation to say the Humane Society or Boy Scouts. Surely you don't expect to get a say in how those things are run simply by giving them $25???? I don't see how CC is any different.

For me anyway, it's not so much about having a say. I donated b/c I appreciate the information here - and I felt that the site was being run as a friendly community - and it was a lot to ask someone to just run a friendly community and I wanted to help keep it going. If I'd thought of CC purely as a "business venture" nothing more, I'm not sure I would have made the same (more than requested) donation. At least with the Humane Society I would know that I was donating to an organization and a cause (and a non-profit one at that). I don't typically "donate" money to businesses to help keep them afloat / help them turn a profit.

ETA - I don't have a response on much of the other stuff that hasn't already been said, so just responding to the donation issue.

[isign]

I really am surprised that this thread has been able to continue, but am thankful. About a week ago, some of this same info - LJT and WC on LJ - was posted and then the thread was deleted. Maybe I'm just a pollyanna, but hopefully things are going to get back to the way they were.

[jeepgirl]

I really am surprised that this thread has been able to continue, but am thankful. About a week ago, some of this same info - LJT and WC on LJ - was posted and then the thread was deleted. Maybe I'm just a pollyanna, but hopefully things are going to get back to the way they were.

I too, have noticed the deletions and "lockdowns." I'm sure I do not know the whole story of what happened, but, in some ways, it really doesn't matter. In the end, this place was not run professionally, and as a result there is a lot of insecurity about posting in general. That creates the desire to look elsewhere, which is so, so disappointing as it has taken years to get to "where" these boards were a few months ago (as far as membership, etc, goes).

In order for things to get back to the way they were... I don't know. In my opinion it might be possible, but I think difficult since it so hard to swallow our own pride (I'm including myself here, because, I know from personal experience its hard, and I think its hard for most people in general). It would have to start with honesty and openness about what happened to all the members of this board. It would need to include an apology for the way things were handled, even if the people making the decisions felt the actions were justified at the time. However, it is never "ok" to make many, many people "pay" for the actions of a few. It is even more incredible to then expect everyone to pretend nothing happened after suddenly and unexpectedly being stripped of all access to their/our own journals. It appears to me to be manipulative behavior on the part of the administration, (very much a show of who is in power), and I'm not ok with that without some kind of explanation.

Please forgive me if I am speaking out of line. I entirely acknowledge the possibility of it since both sides of the situation were not explained to me "from the horses mouth" so to speak. I am very open to being corrected if the small amount of information I have gleaned here and there was not accurate. The bottom line for me though, as someone who has posted here since CC's infancy, is that it feels like the rug could get pulled out from under us at any time, and it no longer feels like a "safe" place to be as much as it use to.

[imagirliegirl]

However, it is never "ok" to make many, many people "pay" for the actions of a few. It is even more incredible to then expect everyone to pretend nothing happened after suddenly and unexpectedly being stripped of all access to their/our own journals. It appears to me to be manipulative behavior on the part of the administration, (very much a show of who is in power), and I'm not ok with that without some kind of explanation.


I completely agree. I also don't understand that if the "trouble makers" were banned why we can't have things like our journals back.

I get that new admin doesn't want to un-ban people, but reinstating journals would be nice.

As for the original post, I do not blog here. To be honest, I've never even looked at them. I also do not use LJT for several reasons, one being that you have to pay. Even though it's cheap, I just can't bring myself to pay for a journal. LJ's format isn't the best but it works well enough.

[apoppy]

originally posted by jeepgirl: I entirely acknowledge the possibility of it since both sides of the situation were not explained to me "from the horses mouth" so to speak. I am very open to being corrected if the small amount of information I have gleaned here and there was not accurate. The bottom line for me though, as someone who has posted here since CC's infancy, is that it feels like the rug could get pulled out from under us at any time, and it no longer feels like a "safe" place to be as much as it use to.

I couldn't agree more. Even just a little bit of explanation from the CC admin-side of things about what happened, and some transparency about what will happen, would go a long way toward healing this community. In the absence of any real information, it is easy to jump to conclusions.

[imagirliegirl]

Totally off topic, but it would be nice for the suggestions forum to be public again. Not only can we not see what other people post, now a moderator has to approve the post entirely! So now a mod has to approve my post that only I can see.

Since we're complaining ...

[Asha]

no, i will not journal/blog here again even if the "old" journals come back. i feel like the sense of trust i had has been breached. i do not like that our words can be taken from us for no apparantly justifiable reason. say, something horrible happened to the owners of cc, i would understand a temporary lack of access to my journal, but to have our journals taken down without warning and subsequently locked for good violates the unwritten agreement that we had between the administrators and users of cc. i felt like my words were being held hostage. not only that there were people in emotional support and their journals seeking help for really stressful situations, and to have that support system taken away without warning is cruel and manipulative. it shows a real lack of empathy for the users of this community.

thankfully, most of my journal buddies and i have reconnected elsewhere, but i feel badly for those users who are currently absent for whatever reason, and they will come back wondering what happened to all their old buddies.

[suzubeane]

My husband and I started it. It is completely free to us. We are using a free server and free site. We just wanted to know how to run one and decided to give it a try for fun. With everything that has happened around here, we thought we'd let others know about it.

So the masses can bludgeon you with copious amounts of drama then, when you finally breakdown and try to do something about it, they say you are on a powertrip? Good times! ;)Meh ... let's give her the benefit of the doubt. Why not assume she'll apply the written rules evenhandedly, and not make any up as she goes along, then ban users willy nilly? And she probably won't make vicious accusations she knows to be patently false on Admin message boards under the premise of asking for help, right? If she manages to avoid those little bugaboos, I think she and MrWilson probably won't come up against a "power trip" label, don't you?

[ManteoChik]

No, not here.

I long ago even gave up my CC journal. Honestly, I didn't like having to police myself in my own damn journal. Having to be careful of what I said so that I did not offend someone - when they have the option to not even read my journal. I've always understood that its a public place and anyone can have access and post what they want, but I guess I never had those problems on WC because I wasn't up in the "know" or something. I had my journal buddies and didn't venture out too much. Around here people have no problems filling your journal with rude comments because they didn't agree with something you said somewhere else on the board.

After everything else that went on around here recently, I didn't even check out the blog. I've been using LJ for a long time now, and I really love it. I also really like that so many new people joined when CC was closed down so I've got a lot more journal buddies now that never used LJ.

[TX Sweetheart]

I have a blog here but don't post in it much. I just hate LJ so much... can't bring myself to go back there... I may seek out another place, but for now I'll stay with the CC blogs

[pontmarie]

No, I would not blog here, for the reasons others have posted.

[maxandmolly]

I would rather hate and bitch about the LJ format than ever, ever start a blog here. I journaled her, a lot, since the beginning. And it was all taken away-the ownership of our words, simply because of a catfight that took place elsewhere. If the admins didn't abide by their OWN Terms of Service in the past, why should we think they will now? Because there's a new admin? Right. Does anyone *really* believe Katy passed off Admin duties to someone who knew nothing about what went down around here? Riiiight.

[bunny nose]

Thank you to those who posted about other communities. I am going to check them out and see if I like them.

[kugrrly]

I had a journal here, but I had a difficult time keeping up with it. Nt a fan of the blogs here. Lately it seems as if there is a bad vibe around here. I am trying to start back up on LJ and Vox. Signed up on LJT. It seems a lot more layed back.

[MichelleRenee]

I switched to LJ for journaling. I had been meaning to anyways. I was surprised at how many CCers found me and added me to their friend list right away. I always worried it would be "lonely" over there but it's not. I guess by posting in the wc_on_lj community it was easier for friends to find me and vice versa.

I'll still come here for other random things but I feel like I finally have ownership over my journal again, which is nice, so I definitely won't blog here.

[laura]

I am completely fascinated this thread is not yet locked. So I will take this opportunity to say anyone who is still "confused" about what happened can (I think) still locate the gist on the user info page of wc_on_lj. That should get you pretty much up to speed.

[Niobe]

I have no plans to blog here. I see no reason not to think that the blogs could one day have the same fate as the journals, so what's the point? I blog and journal places that seem more stable.

[QueenDillyDally]

I voted other because I did start one, but I hate the format. It's definately not the same as our old journaling. It's crap actually. So, I need to delete mine. I restarted journaling over on LJ. The thing that sucks is that LJ is blocked by Barracuda at work, so I have no opportunity to journal during weekdays. I'm so dissappointed that my old "home" here at CC is not the same anymore.

[QueenDillyDally]

I do have to add to that I have been thinking a lot lately about how they just came in and closed our journals without any warning. It's like they ended friendships that I have had for 2+ years. For what? A lot of us were punished (by closing our journals) for a few women's actions. It really wasn't fair and I miss my old CC friends. :(

[Kimberland30]

See, I don't even know what happened. I don't much care, but why does it feel like all of us are being punished? WTF happened to our journals? Granted I didn't keep up with mine, but I don't want to lose it. I actually went back and read a few pages and remembered some good ideas I'd posted about. I'll convert it so I can save it, but still. It sucks.

[Hello Kitty]

A lot of us were punished (by closing our journals) for a few women's actions. It really wasn't fair and I miss my old CC friends. :(

Who's actions do you feel you were punished by?

To answer the OP, I never joined here. I felt pretty robbed after the WC explosion, and moved to LJ and just stayed there.

[princesse]

I mourn the loss of ability to write in my journal here. Although I had not kept up with it as much since I went to LJ (where you can say anything and no one will make up a reason to be angry about it) I loved knowing that at any time I could check in on the wonderful friends I made here. Of course some of those friends are gone, they cannot even get to their journals to save them. I did go back and save my journal, taking hours to C&P, removing headers and whatnot to get the journal to a size that is manageable to print.

Reading the journal I had kept for at least 2 years was bittersweet. I know that some of the friends I had didn't come over to LJ and will no longer be there checking in with encouraging words. I used to truly love this site. Usernames became personalities, and many of those then became true friends. It was so sad to see things crumble over seemingly capricious whims. It was explained by TPTB that there were 'many things leading up to the decision to ban people and take the actions they did'. That in and of itself is a contradiction in terms. There should never have been a decision to ban. As stated in the rules there was a clear cut system of infractions and warnings. When people just started disappearing for saying how they felt (snarkified version or not) it was too much for people to just take and not be upset about...leading to more bannings, infractions and whatnot.

Now that I have printed my journal I have logged out (except for this) and doubt that I will post again. I have found most of the friends I made here elsewhere and life goes on together with them. I miss the old board terribly but I know it will never be the same here. There is so much paranoia, so much distrust, and so little concern about how people feel (as evidenced by the lack of truth via omission) that many feel they cannot speak freely or openly.

I will truly miss many of the people here, whether or not we were close in journals or IRL. :( In a way I guess this is goodbye CC. Thanks for the memories and friendships you gave me.

[scorpioanne]

I mourn the loss of ability to write in my journal here. Although I had not kept up with it as much since I went to LJ (where you can say anything and no one will make up a reason to be angry about it) I loved knowing that at any time I could check in on the wonderful friends I made here. Of course some of those friends are gone, they cannot even get to their journals to save them. I did go back and save my journal, taking hours to C&P, removing headers and whatnot to get the journal to a size that is manageable to print.

Reading the journal I had kept for at least 2 years was bittersweet. I know that some of the friends I had didn't come over to LJ and will no longer be there checking in with encouraging words. I used to truly love this site. Usernames became personalities, and many of those then became true friends. It was so sad to see things crumble over seemingly capricious whims. It was explained by TPTB that there were 'many things leading up to the decision to ban people and take the actions they did'. That in and of itself is a contradiction in terms. There should never have been a decision to ban. As stated in the rules there was a clear cut system of infractions and warnings. When people just started disappearing for saying how they felt (snarkified version or not) it was too much for people to just take and not be upset about...leading to more bannings, infractions and whatnot.

Now that I have printed my journal I have logged out (except for this) and doubt that I will post again. I have found most of the friends I made here elsewhere and life goes on together with them. I miss the old board terribly but I know it will never be the same here. There is so much paranoia, so much distrust, and so little concern about how people feel (as evidenced by the lack of truth via omission) that many feel they cannot speak freely or openly.

I will truly miss many of the people here, whether or not we were close in journals or IRL. :( In a way I guess this is goodbye CC. Thanks for the memories and friendships you gave me.

I agree with many of the things that you said here except that I did not journal here. I came to CC when WC changed and had been on UW until things blew up there. I really felt like I made friends with women who are great, and yes, people's screen names and avatars took on personalities for me. I have gone to LJ, not to really journal as I don't take the time to do it but I am there to keep up with members of a joint journal that I really came to care about.

CC is not the same and that makes me sad. :(

[PookiePrincess]

A lot of us were punished (by closing our journals) for a few women's actions. It really wasn't fair and I miss my old CC friends. :(


Who's actions do you feel you were punished by?


I'd like to know the answer to this, too. Because I can't imagine it's those that were banned, they weren't here to stir up trouble to get the journals closed.

[imagirliegirl]

Does anyone *really* believe Katy passed off Admin duties to someone who knew nothing about what went down around here? Riiiight.

I really hope she didn't. That would really suck for someone new to come in and not have a clue about the mess.

I do, however, think that the new person has the opportunity to do something Katy didn't want to do, which is clear the air around here. We're all adults and I think we should know something about what went down. A little bit of openness from someone might do a lot of good.

Who's actions do you feel you were punished by?


Personally, I feel wronged by Katy.

I think it was pretty unfair to take such a drastic measure by removing the journal feature with no explanation whatsoever. Regardless of what happened, I think some kind of explanation was warranted. Obviously no one but the parties involved know the absolute truth, but as admin of a board that people used for several years, SOMETHING would have been really nice.

I don't know her, nor do I know what happened. For all I know, she had perfectly logical reasons for doing what she did. But to say nothing when most of the members didn't have a damn clue about what was going on, that was pretty crappy. Especially when some of those people cared enough about this site to donate to it.

[nicole]

No. I had already started a LJ before the boards went down, and when they were down and because they were down for so long, I just decided to continue with the LJ.

[QueenDillyDally]

Who's actions do you feel you were punished by?



I didn't write that to blame anyone in particular. I just know that it had nothing to do with ME or any of my CC friends. So, I feel punished for no reason. I just wrote "women" freely without thinking of who, specifically. I don't really have much of a clue about what went down before the banning, etc...

I'm just sad about the loss of some friendships.

[PookiePrincess]

You should blame that on Katy then. She got upset because people were asking questions after the bannings. That's why the boards were taken down, CC came back in read only mode, and journals were essentially closed.

[MichelleRenee]

I do think the worst part was the unexpected loss of ability to contact friends. I had a few friends that I had never gotten e-mail addresses from and I was glad when they came over to LJ so we could still keep in touch through journals.

I also feel bad for the members who were just approaching big events in their lives (i.e. birth of a baby, wedding day, etc) and who looked forward to sharing pictures and receiving congratulations from their CC friends. In the pregnancy groups the moms spend so many months anticipating and cheering each other on. I know I would have been really disappointed to not be able to annoucne the birth of my baby because the boards were shut down, and then to see that many of my friends are gone once they came back up.

[Blondie]

This is very disappointing because until this thread I didn't know the journals were over. I thought the site was still doing some upgrading or something. Was there an announcement and I missed it? I had just started a journal and have 3 posts. LOL I guess it's a good thing I didn't get too far and then lose it. I am obviously new here and don't have a clue what is going on but just from reading this thread I guess I joined at a bad time. This sucks because I was looking forward to having a journal. I guess I will have to go elsewhere but I really like this format.

[PookiePrincess]

Blondie: If you go to the main page, on the blue bar where the journal section is, it says this:

At this time ALL journals are READ ONLY. We will be deleting all journals March 1, 2008. From now until then, you may have your journal deleted, print your journal, or do nothing and we'll close it down in March. We encourage those that wish to journal to either use the new blogs (with privacy options) that CC offers, or to blog somewhere else with privacy options. Unfortunately, the journals can not be converted into CC blogs unless you cut & paste. Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.

[Blondie]

Oh. Well I guess that's that then. Thanks for the response, PookiePrincess.

[Jess71903]

I do not and will not blog here. A lot of how i feel has already been brought up by others here. I don't particularly like the format of LJ but I feel like if I want to keep up with the majority of my former journal buddies, that's where I have to be. I did have a very active journal and I was really upset that they went down with no warning. Seems like if it had been in the plan all along that there would have been an announcement months in advance so we could plan for it and meet up elsewhere. I just happened to catch a sniff of *something* going down (although I hadn't heard what) in a friend's journal and signed up for LJ as a result.

I really appreciate the way this thread is being handled. I was hesitant to post at first because I was afraid it would turn sour or be locked quickly, but I think everyone has handled themselves very well.

[Hangin'in]

I will not blog here, EVER.

I am very glad I never got around to pushing that donate button as well... even though I kept meaning to do that.

Katy or TPTB will never come and explain what happened.... there would have to be an awful lot of CROW eaten..... and I've heard it's just not very tasty. The best way to keep it all in check and make sure that nobody talked about it (make sure those numbers ($$$) stay up) is to keep it as mum as possibly.... lock everything down so it can be heavily moderated (and deleted as necessary)... and the only way to really do that is make sure nobody could talk about in their journals.... cause mods couldn't keep up with those like they can the other parts of the boards.....

I have a journal at LJ, and I keep up with the community wc_on_lj over at livejournal.com as well. There are tons of CCers there.

[Lacey]

I don't mean to cause any more confusion about new things going on here, but hopefully this can be a happy confusion -- I've re-opened the original journal section and none of them will be deleted as originally planned.

I've also re-opened my intro thread, and as this thread has kinda become a big bunch of confusion regarding the direction of CC, I'm going to redirect all concerns to that thread (http://www.constantchatter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39608), found in the Welcome and Introduction forum. You can also PM me or ask in the Board Business forum.

Thanks to everyone for bearing with us pretty well as we transition, and I hope the news about journals returning will brighten a few nights for some people.