December TTC w/ Charting- Hoping for a special Holiday present.

[Charting is Knowledge]

TTCers of ConstantChatter:
Charting Our Course to the BFPs

http://www.ripleysorlando.com/images2/fertilitystatues.jpg
The fertility statues are known to work for some who rub them around the time of possible conception.
It is said that the baby is the most potent part of the statue.

So rub away! :D It's worth a shot!

Who we are:
This is a group of women using charting (temperatures, CM, CP, OPK/FM results, or a combination of these) to try to conceive and, along the way, are learning a heckuvalot about their own bodies! Many of us use a software program to keep track of our charts as well as allowing us to share them with each other. The most common ones are FertitlityFriend.com and Ovusoft.com.

Your threadmistresses for this thread are
missy329.[/color]

To our members:
This thread gets very busy at times, so in order to keep things less overwhelming and a bit more organized, we start a new thread every month. A link to the new thread is always posted at the end of the current thread to help everyone find their way over. The threadmistresses would really appreciate it if everyone would post their updates in Red. That way, if we get a bit behind, it is much quicker to get the thread up-to-date.

Link to the Previous Thread (http://www.constantchatter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37623)

KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!

Want to join the fun??
We welcome one and all. It doesn't matter if you have never charted before or if you've been charting to avoid. I am sure you will find lots of help and support in this group.

If you would like to join, CD1 is the time to do it! That way, we can cheer you on throughout your cycle, rather than 2 days before you test! (Also, note that if you join us during your 2ww and you get a BFP that cycle, you will not be listed as a graduate.)

Please don't be discouraged by the number of posts in this thread. You don't have to read the whole thread to join. Feel free to just jump in on the last page. Just read through these first couple of posts and post a reply with the following information and we will get you added right away. Of course, none of this info is a must but we like to know a little bit about one another.


CC Name:
Me: name/age
DH: name/age
Married since: date
Off BCP since: date
TTC since: date
Charting since: date
Known issues/test results:
Chart: link
Current status: waiting to O, What the bleep .., testing...

How to link a chart from Fertility Friend:
Go to My Chart. In the Menu bar on the left hand side go down to Sharing, then Home Page Setup. The link will appear in a text box under the heading "Your Charting Home Page Web Address." Highlight the link and copy it to your signature or a post.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Think I O'ed - Testing 1/13-1/19
chi (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c8580), melandtim (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/11d965), MMHinCA (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/c14c1), Stacy654 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/97aad)

Folliculating:
Waiting to O (aka - Boring Part of the Cycle)
akacharlotte (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/dd10b), A-lo (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/bdd2c), APhiJill (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/32ea0), CLW4KU (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c07e6), Gia (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/42e5f), HunBun (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1cf14b), jellybeany (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c06c1), JennZ (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/jz), Jillybean (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/170c59), Kanga 1622 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28596), KK812 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1cb2bc), KRL626 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/77867), Kuklaki (http://forums.ovusoft.com/chart.asp?id=kuklaki1), Luvnu43 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10e6d7), Missy329 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2b4de), mindy2137 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/186913), Mizlarner (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/993ed), mpc963 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/31c13), nakakna (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1b709d), NotDesperate (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c6893), oceanblue (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6f09b), PugLover (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/25e5a), ThreeYell (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c7a37), tunibell (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/59461)

Stagnating:
What the *bleep* is going on?!?!
Wen (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1d4972)

Taking a Charting Break/Temporarily TTA:
dancn226 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1770da), Kopper (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/9e5e6), t3h_wookiee (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/nekochan)

Waiting to Graduate!
January
Julss05 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/11e19b), Taylandra (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/170a66)
December
ABirney (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/810d1), Annette (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/170747), Goddess Tiff (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/4be1a)

Waiting to Join!

Percolating:
Expecting Mommies!

BFPs in December (2)
katiems118 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/142cc1), Sue (http://forums.ovusoft.com/chart.asp?id=misssue)

BFPs in October (3)
JLRenheos (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1297e), Stacy654 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/97aad) (m/c), Susan

BFPs in September (3)
Heidi9771 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/heidi9771), Mickey&B (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fc92), Mrs.Chappy (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6027e)

BFPs in August (3)
lee60657 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1825fa), summerbride2005 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/13549e), tracer

BFPs in July (4)
bamboo (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1a83e6), Ferris (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/31a72), Maggie8202 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1aada4), tgr68 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1e632)

BFPs in June (2)
DianeCourt (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/803ac), Sparkle&shine (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/26787)

BFPs in May: (8)
akacharlotte (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/dd10b) (m/c), Angie (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/19a6a1), DelSol (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf64a), HEW?B (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1722cd), JayJay (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e581e), Jeneca128 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/19ba71), Pelican (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/196025 ), raven077 (http://forums.ovusoft.com/chart.asp?id=raven077)

BFPs in April: (3)
Loud_curly (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/15c628), portinastorm (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/144b18), Sparkle&shine (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/26787) (m/c)

BFPs in March: (3)
honeygirl (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ee424), Steve's Sweety (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/16f08), teacher_jessica (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/13251d)

BFPs in February: (6)
cat_loverpq (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/da20b), daisysue62 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/671a1), FSUSammy (http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=fsusammy), jenji (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/b8331), pugzy (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/117bb2), SQ2 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=sq2)

BFPs in January: (10)
Amuse Bouche (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/44b75), Annette (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/170747)(m/c), Boskie (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/14f007), filmgirl7 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/13fa13), Jess71903, LadyD088 (http://forums.ovusoft.com/chart.asp?id=ladyd088), mlfallis (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ee6c5), motray36 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/MyFFChart)(m/c), Mrs.R (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/118b70)(m/c), ptcrn (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bed5d)




Please advise if we are off-target with your ETF (Estimated Test-Fest) or other status, or just need a good old-fashioned Ovary Shout!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Our mommies!

BFPs in December: (4)
2 Crazy Pugs (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/168fad), HEW?B (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1722cd)(m/c), mommy2maren (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/14968f), pride&prejudice (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1324da)

BFPs in November: (13)
Applebee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/98534)(m/c), BrownEyedGirl (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f1117), Cath2005, ceaserbride (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/161ed0), granada (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/97800), jessesgirl (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/15caa2), jrbnj (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/8b26d), LDS Angel 19 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/64d1c), polarama (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=polarama), polkadot (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d), RobynScott (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1095fc), Stevesbabygirl (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=stevesbabygirl), teacher_jessica (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/13251d)(m/c)

BFPs in October: (6)
Cosmogirl (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/690b7), Gymwidow (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/813ab), magrat (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/70df2), Risa00 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/risa00), Sebski (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/8302a), Smittenk (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=smitten)

BFPs in September: (6)
foxyboo751 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/112db6), Jjsanner (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/24f94)(m/c), LILRTL (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/14df72), magrat (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/70df2), polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d)(m/c), Steve's Sweety (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/16f08)(m/c)

BFP's in August: (1)
PugLover (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/25e5a)(m/c)

BFPs in July: (5)
MarriedaGoalie (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/147815), miaclear (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/122ae9), MrsKinnison (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/89c6c), Sherb, sneak (http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=sneak)

BFPs in June: (10)
Felicity (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/db809), fsb2005 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10ac41), jenjen0713 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/794c9), JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf), KristieB (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/df6e5), LDS Angel 19 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/64d1c), lilhimley (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/131d02), MrsHill (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrshill), phillytiger (http://www.tcoyf.com/chart.asp?id=lege), Sebski (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/8302a)

BFPs in May: (3)
Indiana Bride (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1d936), lattee22 (http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=lattee22), Tealynn (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/114180)


BFPs in April: (6)
Deanna1018 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=gabbie1018), giry76 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/781ab), Harmony96 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/d1b58), Janu98, Kimmer (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/106fea), Marteneym (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fa78)

BFPs in March: (10)
ausi2b (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f7062), BethIrish (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/105e49), Delaney21 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e9d11), Ilovemygeek (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bec65), Lilo, Mayham (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/be39e), neenbean (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/66982), Roberta (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10827a), RubberSoul (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/118cd2), Sare79 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/fe765)

BFPs in February: (10)
Bunnybeth (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e5de5), Dlj78 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=dlj78), Ellidew (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/78d2a), jeant ( http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/5ef37), Jenzen01 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/41226), Lilla (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2c0b6), MichelleRenee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e174a), mimieliza (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/b84ec), Quartercentury (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3313f), Sinclair319

BFPs in January: (12)
Adam's Pi (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/95990), Dionysia (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/fdec3), Hula1974 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/905ef), jbemommy (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1064ba), Katmg (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/89994), lawgirl4 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/a6770), Lily (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/447e7), MSH, polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d)(m/c), octoberkate (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f8c44), Spencer's_Girl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6f9cc), suiej (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10159a)

BFPs in December: (8)
Abby's Mom, ajlanden (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2fdee), Aletheia (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a0c60), Dotsie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e00ca), jeggink (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c595), Mrs. M. (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1a234), Sabriel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c), UTChick (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf25d)

BFPs in November: (7)
Almostthere, Ellebelle (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2f8f5), Jesseybell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cd4f1), LDS Angel 19 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/64d1c)(m/c), Lindybug (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99db2), Linnybubbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2330), mkvh (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99502), mrst2b2003

[Charting is Knowledge]

BFPs in October: (19)...We Broke the Record for most BFP's in One Month!!!!
amurphy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a5e06), Bottleored (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/44b0a), BunnyBeth (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e5de5), Calla Lily (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b025d), Ds2003 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ds2003), flygirl, Gardenia (http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=gardeniacc), jbenny75 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/803b1), Kaeden's Mommy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bcdb2), Lizard (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/af125), Mystikal (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/RaeK622), nuhmah (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/d72dc), Ryan (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3f12b), SarahnCraig (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c1846), Shouldaeloped (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/63d7a), Soulmate (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Soulmate), Klav (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21291), ShelbyMay (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/67c07), Wrighty26 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/beb7b)

BFPs in September: (3)
Baby Lust (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Shanes_Angel), Lowcountrywed (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c4aeb), Sabriel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c)

BFPs in August: (11)
Akachan93 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/229b9), Crazycaro (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21ac6), Guinness (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=10&id=guinness&tc=0&p=), jeeplover (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/721bb), Indiana Bride (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1d936), LittleStar (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c204a), Mel7dog (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ca05d), Missy329 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2b4de), MMHinCA (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c14c1), Sinclair319 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/sinclair319), Stumbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b1333), Uskiku (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cdfb0)

BFPs in July: (10)
Elenitsa (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=13&id=elenitsa&tc=0&p=), Heidi0622 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/549f8), Jane&Andy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c455f), Kopper (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/9e5e6), MrsCantDecide (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59e5b), Red_Canuck, Sevilla, ShannonGH (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ShannonGH), Tracie (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/a18c8), Tunibell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59461)

BFPs in June: (2)
Christy5599, Lovin'it

[Charting is Knowledge]

Our Members:

ABirney (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/810d1)
me: Angie, 32
DH: Scott, 30
married: 9/25/04
Off BC/started charting: 12/04
TTC: 9/05
known issues: insulin resistance, on metformin 5/06, starting Femara 5/07, DH sperm count and morphology low.

akacharlotte (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/dd10b)
Me: Stacey~34
DH: J~31
Married since: 04/21/07
Off BCP since: 2002
TTC since: starting with the next cycle(05/07)
Charting since: 01/06
Known issues/test results: a chemical pregnancy in 2005

A-lo (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/bdd2c)
Me: Amanda, age 30
DH: J, age 31
Married: 8/31/02
DS: 2/13/06
TTC #2 since 8/07
Charting since 9/07 (Charted when TTC DS as well)

Annette (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/170747)
Annette, 30
DH: Mike, 30
Married since: 11/01
Off BCP since: 10/06
TTC since: 10/06, m/c on 3/5, TTC again May
m/c #2 08/07
Charting since: 11/06
Known issues/test results: ovulate late. low progesterone and TBD.

APhiJill (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/32ea0)
Me: Jill/40
DH: Dave/48
Married since: 12/11/01
Off BCP since: June 2005
TTC since: 7/1/07
Charting since: August 07
Known issues/test results: had a m/c on 12/12/06

Chi (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c8580)
Me: Ann/32
DH: b/35
Married since: 9/03
Off BCP since: 2005
TTC since: 8/07
Charting since: September
Known issues/test results: Either delayed ovulation or annovulatory

CLW4KU (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c07e6)
Me: Courtney/25
DH: Kyle/30
Married since: 9/29/07
Off BCP since: 12/07
TTC since: 12/07
Charting since: 12/07
Known issues/test results:High BP

dancn226 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1770da)
Me: Jen/26
DH: Chris/29
Married since: 2005
Off BCP since: 2005
TTC since: July 06
Charting since: 1/10
Known issues/test results: none

Gia (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/42e5f)
Me: Gretchen/33
DH: M/40
Married since: 12/30/01
Off BCP since: early 02
TTC since: Sept 07
Charting since: off and on since Feb 02 (but was avoiding until 9/07)
Known issues/test results:

Goddess Tiff (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/4be1a)
Me: Tiffany - 28
DH: Ted - 30
Married since: 9/21/02
Off BCP since: years ago
TTC since: August 2007
Charting since: August 2007
Known issues/test results: No issues, cycles have been erratic the past few months but seem to be returning to normal

HunBun (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1cf14b)
Me: 30
DH: 31
Married since: 2002
Off BCP since: 9/07
TTC since: 9/07
Charting since: 10/07 (also charted to avoid for a while in 2005)
Known issues/test results: diagnosed with PCOS in 2005

jellybeany (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c06c1)
Me: Jo (24) - will be 25 on 10/1
DH: L (27)
Married: May 14, 2005
Last BCP: August 18, 2007
TTC since: August, 2007
Children: my 3 furbabies
Known Issues: PCOS, hypothyroidism

Jillybean (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/170c59)
Me: Jill/26
DH: Joshua/27
Married since: May 24, 2003
Off BCP since: September 2007
TTC since: October 2007
Charting since: September 2007
Known issues/test results: none

JennZ (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/jz)
Me: Jenn/37
DH: Kyle/40
Married since: 2000
TTC since: 01/07
Charting since: March 07
Known issues/test results: DH has a low count and my FSH was 10 in 2005.

Julss05 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/11e19b)
Me: Julie/30
DH: Mike/32
Married: 2002
TTC: October 2007
Charting since: Off and on since 04/04
Known issues/test results: None

[Charting is Knowledge]

Members continued...

Kanga 1622 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28596)
Me: 27
DH: 29
Married since: 8/31/02
Off BCP since: 7/03
TTC since: 02/06
Charting since: 07/03
Known issues/test results: Low iodine

katiems118 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/142cc1)
Me: Katie 27
DH: Eric 31
Married: May 2006
Charting: June 2006
TTC: June 2006
Known issues: late ovulation
Clomid 50mg 1/30/07- BFN
Clomid 50mg 3/1/07-BFN
Clomid 50mg 5/1/07-BFN
6/07- SA
7/07-HSG

KK812 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1cb2bc)
Me: Pam
DH: E
Married since: August 2005
Off BCP since: n/a, never took it
TTC since: August 2005
Charting since: September 2007
Known issues/test results:Abnormal SA

Kopper (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/9e5e6)
Me: 28
DH: 30
Married: 9/21/02
DS: 3/31/06
TTC since: 4/07
Charting since: 6/07
Known issues/test results: some issues first time around but not sure this time

KRL626 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/77867)
Me: Kate age 29
DH: Ricardo age 29
Married: 6/26/04
DS: 1/10/06
TTC #2 1/08
Charting since 12/07 (Charted in the past too)

Kuklaki (http://forums.ovusoft.com/chart.asp?id=kuklaki1)
Me: Angela/29
DH: Leo/27
Married since: 01-22-2005
Off BCP since: 2000
TTC since: 08/2006
Charting since: 05/2006
Known issues: slow/late O- sometimes annov
12/06 clomid 50 mg-BFN
01/07 clomid 50 mg- BFN
02/07 clomid 100 mg- BFN
03/07 taking a break, no meds
04/07 no meds, annov, Provera to start new cycle
05/07 clomid 150 mg

Luvnu43 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10e6d7)
Me: Heather (26)
DH: Steve (25)
Married since: 9/24/2005
Off BCP since: 10/2005
TTC since: 12/1/2007
Charting since: 10/2005
Known issues/test results: None known

melandtim (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/11d965)
Me: Mel, 30
DH: Tim, 44
Married since: October 23, 2004
Off BCP since: January 06
TTC since: May 06
Charting since: January 06
Known issues/test results: don't O every month or O very late. Endometriosis. Bloodwork and SA ok.

mindy2137 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/186913)
Me: Mindy/23
DH: Jeremy/26
Married since: 11/12/05
Off BCP since: 10/06
TTC since: not "trying" until Jan. but would love for it to happen sooner! We're not avoiding either, we didn't want the STRESS of 'trying' but how do you avoid that?
Charting since: 02/07
Known issues/test results: Ovarian Cysts

missy329 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2b4de)
Me: Lisa 38
DH: Jim 39
DD: Katie 4/16/04
DD: Maggie 4/28/06
Married since: May 17, 2003
Off BCP since: July 2006
TTC since: July 2006
Charting since: August 2006
Known issues/test results: none

Mizlarner (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/993ed)
Me: C/24
DH: J/26
Married since: 9/13/03
Off BCP since: 6/2000
TTC since: 7/29/2007

MMHinCA (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/c14c1)
Me: 30
DH: 32 (in November)
Married since: 7.26.03
DD: 5.5.06
Off BCP since: 6.05
TTC since: 10.07
Charting since: 10.07 (TTC #2)
Known issues/test results: None

mpc963 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/31c13)
Me: 30
DH: 36
Married since: 8/2/03
Off BCP since: 10/03
TTC since: 10/07
Charting since: using CBEFM on and off since March (maybe 4 cycles total)

nakakna (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1b709d)
Me: 29
DH: 28
Married since: June 2005
Off BCP since: June 2007
TTC since: July 2007
Charting since: August 2007
Known issues/test results: nothing

NotDesperate (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c6893)
Me: Katie/25
DH: Paul/30
Married since: 6/11/05
Off BCP since: 9/17/2007
TTC since: This will be our first month
Charting since: 3 days ago, lol
Known issues/test results: none

oceanblue (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6f09b)
Me: Sondra/32
DH: Mike/34
DS: Hayden/2 on Dec. 8th
Married since: 4/20/02
Off BCP since: 10/04
TTC since: 11/19/07
Charting since: 10/04
Known issues/test results: none

PugLover (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/25e5a)
Me: Julia/28
DH: Josh/29
Married since: April 20, 2002
Off BCP since: June 2002
TTC since: Nov 2007
Charting since: June 2004
Known issues/test results: miscarriage Sept 06

Stacy654 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/97aad)
Me: Stacy - 29
DH: Brian - 29
Married since: June 5, 2004
Off BCP since: June 07
TTC since: August 07
Charting since: August 07
Known issues/test results: miscarriage in November 07, hypothyroidism - controlled since 04, VERY low progesterone during my first pregnancy, will be monitoring that more closely this time around. Dr. gave us the go ahead to start after one normal cycle.

Sue (http://forums.ovusoft.com/chart.asp?id=misssue)
Me: Sue/34
DH: J/38
Married since: 8/10/2002
Off BCP since: 5/2006
TTC since: 10/2007
Charting since: 5/16/2006
Known issues/test results: none that I am aware of

t3h_wookiee ( http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/nekochan)
Me: Jess, 25
DH: Jon, 25
Married: 12/2002
Off BCP: 12/2002
TTC: 8/2003
Charting: 5/2003
Issues: mild PCOS, weak, late ovulation. DH's motility and morphology are low
1/07: Initial RE visit, started first found of Clomid 50mg that day, SA for DH was low morph, low motility.
2/07: Second round of Clomid 50 mg, failed post-coital test.
3/07: First round of Femara (Clomid was too harsh on me).
4/07: Switched REs, no meds this month.
5/07: Second round of Femara, HSG on 5/11. DH's repeat SA much better than first time, but motility still low, morphology up from 4% to 11% on strict Kruger.
5/07: HSG clear.
6/07: Third round of Femara - BFN
7/07: Follistim 100iu, trigger shot, IUI on 7/18. 1 Follie - BFN
8/07: Follistim 125iu, trigger shot, IUI on 8/13. 4 Follies - BFN
9/07: Taking a break

Taylandra (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/170a66)
Me: Cassie/24
DH: Michael/25
Married since: 5/21/05
Off BCP since: 10/2006
TTC since: 9/2007 (SWH since 7/2007)
Charting since: 10/2006
Known issues/test results: No known issues-had a miscarriage on 9/8/07

ThreeYell (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c7a37)
Me: Amy, 31
DH: 30
Married since: 9.21.02
TTC since: 8.07
Charting since: 9.07
Known issues/test results: m/c 6.8.07
DS: Sam 2.4.05

tunibell (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/59461)
Me: Jessika, 32
DH: Peter, 30
Married since: 6/12/04
DD: 3/4/06
Off BCP since: 4/11/07
TTC since: 5/07
Charting since: 4/05
Known issues/test results: None

Wen (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1d4972)
Me: Wendy 30
DH: Roberto 28
Married since: 9-20-02
Off BCP since: 9-28-07
TTC since: Oct 2007
Charting since: Oct 2007

[Charting is Knowledge]

Things I Have Learned About TTC
by WC's Sherylb

* TTC is a journey. You will discover things about yourself that you never expected. You will face fears you never thought you had. You will find joy in little things.

* TTC can bring you closer to your DH, or it can pull you apart. If your marriage is not solid, you will find out quickly.

* No one understands exactly what you are feeling at any given moment, but someone can empathize at least a little bit.

* You will experience an emotional roller coaster ride. There will be highs and lows and fast moments and slow. Sometimes you have to wait in a very, very slow moving line. You may not even get the seat you want. It is not always fun, it can be scary, but in the end it is worth it.

* "Just relax" is the last thing in the world you want to hear from someone, but it is OK if you say it about yourself.

* There will be moments when you question your own decision to start TTC. You will wonder if you should wait or if you should just give up. Those are normal. But you will get past those feelings.

* The blue and green turtle likes to pop its head out! You will hear of someone's pregnancy and turn green with envy and blue inside because it isn't you.

* It isn't fair, it isn't easy, and it isn't pretty. But you keep doing it because the reward is worth it.

* You will be your best friend and your worst enemy. Your body will surprise you and yet disappoint you.

* Some women do get lucky and conceive right away. Others aren't so lucky and have to struggle to get there. Hopefully you will be in the first category, but prepare yourself to be in the second.

* Once you decide to TTC, there will be babies and pregnant women everywhere! You could swear there is a baby boom going on!

* You will have questions. No one will ever be in exactly your position, so don't be surprised when no one can give you exactly the answer you are looking for. But there are people that can contribute, so don't be afraid to ask!

*Two lines on a pregnancy test is not the end of the struggle. Pregnancy has lots of struggles in and of itself.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Resources borrowed from Still At It:

Abbreviations and acronyms
List of TTC & IF acronyms written out (http://womens-place.com/ttc/ttcacronyms.php)

HPT Sensitivity Comparison Charts
Fertility Plus (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hpt.html)
Pee On A Stick (http://www.peeonastick.com/hpts.html)
Mama's Ark (http://www.mamasark.com/hpt.htm)
Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com/pregnancy-test-sensitivity.html)
Remember, the hCG starts at 1 at implantation and increases as time goes on, so the smaller amount of hCG it measures, the more sensitive the test is!

Books
Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler, MPH (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060937645/qid=1041654042/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

The Fertility Sourcebook by M. Sara Rosenthal, PHD (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0737303808/qid=1042220393/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)

Inconceivable by Ben Elton (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385334656/qid=1041659461/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)
The movie "Maybe Baby" (below) is based on this book

Inconceivable: A Woman's Triumph Over Despair and Statistics
by Julia Indichova (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0767908201/qid=1059292613/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

The Infertility Diet: Get Pregnant & Prevent Miscarriage by Fern Reiss (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1893290395/qid=1059292976/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

Conquering Infertility: Dr. Domar's Mind/Body Guide to Enhancing
Fertility & Coping with Infertility by Alice Domar, Phd (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0670031550/qid=1059293116/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/103-2812959-1358247)


Girlfriend to Girlfriend: A Fertility Companion by Kristen Magnacca (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1588202135/qid=1082306449/sr=8-2/ref=pd_ka_2/104-9895052-8814318?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

Movies
Maybe Baby (2001) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000062XKW/qid=1041654127/sr=8-4/ref=sr_8_4/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=video&n=507846)

She's Having A Baby (1988) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6300988996/qid%3D1041654195/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-0287896-1655948)

Websites (by subject)

Charting
Ovusoft aka TCOYF (http://www.ovusoft.com/)
The site for Toni Weschler's book which includes message boards, chat and cycle galleries which are very helpful.

Fertility Friend (www.fertilityfriend.com)
A free charting site which includes a lot of information and cycle galleries.

Local Support
RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/chapters/resolvenearyou.jsp?name=chapters)
Nation-wide referrals to local support groups and therapists.

The American Infertility Association (http://www.americaninfertility.org)
Lots of information and support, including message boards and chat rooms.

Financial Concerns
ARC: Advanced Reproductive Care (http://www.arcfertility.com/)
information on financing infertility treatments

Family Fee Plan (http://www.amerifee.com/fertility-financing/index.asp)
information on financing infertility treatments

State Insurance Requirements (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/advocacy/insurance/index.jsp?name=advocacy&tag=insurance)
Links from the Resolve site about insurance & laws.

Inciid's Insurance pages (http://www.inciid.org/index.php)
Click through menu on right for more financial topics and the insurance forum.

General TTC
Trying To Conceive.com (http://www.tryingtoconceive.com/)
All things TTC! Lots of info as well as a place to buy herbal therapies for
conceiving.

Baby Med (http://www.babymed.com/)
Tons of information. Everything from Chinese gender charts to an FAQ section on pretty much any TTC question you could have.

Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com)
Baby makin' supplies!

OBGYN.net (http://www.obgyn.net/)
Lots of general info on women's health. They also have doctors on line who
answer questions.

Infertility Sites
INCIID (http://www.inciid.org/)
Pronounced "inside". (The International Council on Infertility Information Dissemination)
Excellent national resource.

Resolve (http://www.resolve.org)
Wonderful site with lots of infertility information and support.

I dream of baby (http://www.idreamofbaby.com/fertility.php)
Learn the basics of fertility issues here. This site also has a great message
board community!

Fertility Plus.orgââ‚à ƒâ€šÃ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s list of female hormone levels (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hormonelevels.html#female)
Starting your fertility work-up? Check out this site to see a list of the
commonly tested female hormone levels, the function of each hormone, and the normal levels of each hormone.

Shared Journey (http://www.sharedjourney.com)
Shared Journey is dedicated to providing quality information on topics such as
infertility, miscarriage, surrogacy, pregnancy after infertility, living
child-free, and adoption. Our information is supplied by well noted Reproductive
Endocrinologist's, Psychologists, Adoption professionals and links through
various sites.

FertileHeart (http://www.fertileheart.com)
A community of people exploring holistic approaches to fertility. A site by
author Julia Indichova (see books above)

Specific IF Issues
Soul Cysters (http://www.soulcysters.com)
PCOS site with lots of support and info

Dr. Beer (http://www.repro-med.net)
Reproductive Immunology information, including lists of tests, pricing, local referrals

Reproductive Immunology Support (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/immunologysupport/)
Yahoo group for RI patients, tons of info and articles

Info for Family and Friends
Empty Arms (http://www.vocalicious.com/empty_arms/empty_arms_mod.html)
This is a great video so they can understand what you're going through. (And get out your kleenex!)

http://search.acclaimimages.com/_gallery/_TN/0017-0307-1906-4344_TN.jpg


Post away!!!!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Welcome to December. Let's finish off this year with a lot of BFPs!

Post away!

[chi]

Yeah!! A new thread, thanks for the new digs TM.

Here's to lots of BFPs this holiday season!

Sorry all those who AF found, it is so not fair.

Good luck and fingers crossed for those waiting to test. I see some good charts out there. ;)

ABirney-yeah for a 14mm follie!! Good luck on Tuesday with the IUI.

Taylandra-sorry about the BFN...that is a bummer.

jill-i hope we get our BFPs together this month, that would be terrific!!

sea- i hope we can get the hat trick!! I'm sorry about the spotting, but perhaps it is ovulation spotting this time?!? Keep thinking good thoughts and praying that this is it!

kemaji-hope you are having fun on your trip! Looking forward to hearing that you got your BFP while on the west coast!

Sorry to those I missed.

me- TM-please move me to I think I've O'd, testing 12/9-12/15. Knowing what a POAS addict I am I am sure I'll be testing way before then. But maybe if I say that I will wait, it will actually work this time.:D

I'm a little bummed because FF called O a day earlier than I thought it would be and now my chances are only listed as "good" rather than "high" because of not the best BD schedule.

Also, work next week is going to be INSANE, we're talking 20 hour days and very stressful stuff so I am thinking that is probably not the best for implantation and that this cycle will be a bust. Can someone say "Debbie Downer"?!?:D

I guess the flip side is that the 2ww will be better because I won't be focused on FPS.

[Wen]

Good luck in December everyone

[Taylandra]

Hello new thread-thanks, TM, for getting this one started!

Still trying to figure out what's happening. You may want to move me to the next testing group. After the small amount of spotting yesterday morning, I still have no sign of AF and no BFP. I'll just hang out a few days and if there is still nothing by the first part of next week, I'll go buy a test and try again.

Here's to a successful month of BFP's for everyone!

[Jill1228]

jill-i hope we get our BFPs together this month, that would be terrific!!

sea- i hope we can get the hat trick!! I'm sorry about the spotting, but perhaps it is ovulation spotting this time?!? Keep thinking good thoughts and praying that this is it!


me- TM-please move me to I think I've O'd, testing 12/9-12/15. Knowing what a POAS addict I am I am sure I'll be testing way before then. But maybe if I say that I will wait, it will actually work this time.:D

I'm a little bummed because FF called O a day earlier than I thought it would be and now my chances are only listed as "good" rather than "high" because of not the best BD schedule.



Yup, mine says the same thing too.

TM-please move me to I think I've O'd, testing 12/9-12/15.

A hat trick would be good. After the news DH got yesterday (his mother was dx with pancreatic cancer) we need some good news in our family

[Annette]

Yay for the new thread. Hope we get some nice Christmas presents this year.

Jill-Sorry to hear about your DH's mom.

abirney-good luck with the IUI. Hope you get a BFP.

sea-Sorry about the spotting.

Sorry to those who AF found. Good luck to those testing soon.

me: Finally some fertile CM. I jumped DH this morning :)

[MizLarner]

TM-please move me to I think I've O'd, testing 12/9-12/15.

[oceanblue]

Yeay! A new thread. Here's hoping there are a ton more BFPs than the 1 we had last month! :)

[sea74]

Just wanted to say that I hope this is it for ALL of us here! DH and I are leaving for our anniversary trip tomorrow! We're supposed to get an ice storm tonight/tomorrow morning. Please pray that our flight gets out on time! I'm tired of winter already and I really need to get to sunny FL!

HOPING TO COME BACK TO LOTS OF BFPs!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sue]

Happy December!! Thanks for the new thread!! I would love to get a BFP this month, my DH's family will all be up at Christmas (a SIL & BIL live out of state) and it would be so much nicer to tell everyone at the same time.

I'm going to try to hold out till Monday, we'll see if it actually happens :)

Good luck to everyone!!

[Jill1228]

Just wanted to say that I hope this is it for ALL of us here! DH and I are leaving for our anniversary trip tomorrow! We're supposed to get an ice storm tonight/tomorrow morning. Please pray that our flight gets out on time! I'm tired of winter already and I really need to get to sunny FL!

HOPING TO COME BACK TO LOTS OF BFPs!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sea, I am guessing you are in Seattle. I hear you about the flights. MIL is flying out of Vancouver tomorrow to head here

[ABirney]

Thanks for the new thread, TM! :)
chi Yuck about the crazy work schedule! Hope your 2ww flies by and ends with good news.
Taylandra Hope AF stays away!
Jill So sorry about your MIL's illness.
Annette Go catch that egg!
MizLarner Hope you caught your egg.
sea Have a great trip!! Hope the weather cooperates for you.
Sue Good luck testing, crossing my fingers for you!

[sea74]

Sea, I am guessing you are in Seattle. I hear you about the flights. MIL is flying out of Vancouver tomorrow to head here Michigan, actually. This stupid storm just has long-reaching arms ;)

[ABirney]

Michigan, actually. This stupid storm just has long-reaching arms ;)

We're getting snow here too and supposed to get freezing rain later today.. I'm in South Dakota. That's why my RE had me go down yesterday instead of today.

[oceanblue]

sea-Ugh. I'm in MI too. Not looking forward to this storm we're supposed to get. I'll keep my fingers crossed that your flight will get out on time! I just wish I were going with you to FL!!! ;)

[Sue]

We're supposed to get the storm tomorrow, not looking forward to it. I'll be getting up early to get out and do what I need to do!

[missy329]

Well, I am in sunny Florida and Sea it is about 80 degrees right now. I think the rest of the week is supposed to be in the low 80's and upper 70's. Hope the weather is great while you are here!

Well, I am waiting to O. AF showed up today. On to cycle #18. :(

[JLRenheos]

seaHappy Anniversary! Have a nice time in Fla.!

dancn how are you doing?

missy I'm SO sorry that Af showed for you. Sucks. ((hugs))

Birney Wishing you good luck for your IUI tomorrow! Here's hoping it takes & I hope your 2ww flies by...
I'm feeling off/on these days. Had a dr. appt. yesterday & I've lost 4lbs in 3 wks. time. Other than that, everything is going well & is progressing along fine. Thanks for asking. ;)

annette Wishing the Best this cycle!

Happy December! Let's hope for a lot of Bfps this month!

[Annette]

sea-have fun in FL! How come your stats are missing on the front page?

missy-sorry about AF.

me: I just found out my bff is expecting and due in July. Now I'm really hoping I get a BFP this month.

[dancn226]

Good evening girls. I am just sitting here at my home all along cause Dh is working! So, its freezing rain here in South suburbs of Chicago as well. I was at my moms house when it started to get shitty and my car was one big huge block of ice. Luckly I have my trailblazer, and it got me home all nice and safe. So now I have a good drink (cherry McGullcudies and sprite mmmm so good) and wathching a Justin Timerblake concert on HBO. Couldn't be a better night. I have the candles burining, and just listening to some good music and along with some awesome choergraphy! Coudn't be a better night. Well it would if DH was her,e but you know.

Sea~I hope you made it out nice and safely. I hope you have a great trip. Sorry about the spotting. Have your cycles always been this way?

JLRenheos~Hey hun, hope all is going good with you. How are you feeling? Not much going on here. 10dpo. Just hanging out.

missy329~All I have to say is LUCKY!!! I wish it was that nice out here. Seriously DH and I were talking about how if I didn't have the dance studio, then we would be moving to FL really soon. We still want to move down there.

ABirney~Don't you just love this winter weather crap. I want to move to Fl. I wish you lots of luck tomorrow on your IUI. I hope yoru first time is all you need.

Hey to anyone else I missed! Going to go get more excited about dancing! Love watching backup dancers dance wtih Justin. I so wish I could be one!!!:D

[HunBun]

Oh wow, December already!

chi - good luck in the 2ww! I'll think positive for you!
Taylandra - I hope you get that BFP in the next few days. The wait sounds frustrating!
Jill - I'm so sorry to hear the news about your MIL. I'm wishing you lots of luck in the 2ww!
MizLarner - best of luck in the 2ww!
Annette - way to go, and yay for fertile CM!
sea74 - happy anniversary and have a great trip!
missy - so sorry about AF. Hope this next cycle will be the one for you!
dancn - sounds like a cozy night! Enjoy!

So, I'm on CD4, and my temperature has been exactly the same for the past four days. Has this happened to anyone else? It just seems odd. I've had two or three days of the same temp in the past, but never four days. I thought maybe my thermometer was running out of batteries, but I tested it later in the day and got a different temp, so... it looks like my body is just being really monotonous. What's up with that?

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to Here.

[MMHinCA]

i would do anything to have a bfp under our christmas tree this month! good luck to every one this month!

[mindy2137]

I did this a long time ago, but let me do it again
CC Name:
Me: Mindy/23
DH: Jeremy/26
Married since: 11/12/05
Off BCP since: 10/06
TTC since: not "trying" until Jan. but would love for it to happen sooner! We're not avoiding either, we didn't want the STRESS of 'trying' but how do you avoid that?
Charting since: 02/07
Known issues/test results: Ovarian Cysts
Chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/186913
CC Name: mindy2137
Current status: Trying to figure out what is going on inside of me...I suppose waiting to O

Okay, here's the link to my chart
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/186913
My cycle is messed up. I started AF late, and my temps haven't dropped....grrrr....I'm frustrated. I normally wouldn't think ANYTHING about it but in TCOYF they have a chart that shows 'starting your period' and temps not dropping. They said to watch it closely. The girl in the book ended up being pg, they have no idea what happened. But she carried a complete pregnancy.

[chi]

mindy-Wacky cycles are the worst. Does AF always show up on the same day? I "usually" have 31 day cycles, but I have been known to have a 28 or 34 day cycle also and my temps usually stay above the coverline until at least CD 6....However, you would probably know better than me since you have been charting longer, but I thought I would chime in with my experience.

[Annette]

mindy-give it a few days for your temps to drop. Maybe the progesterone is still working its way out of your system. Do you have symptoms you normally wouldn't have during your AF?

MMH-Yeah, same here. Hope you get that BFP!

hunbun-Sorry, I don't know the answer to your question. I've had similar temps for 4 days, but not the same.

dancn-Glad to hear you enjoyed your evening.

How much snow are you northerners getting? I hope you are all able to keep warm.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here.

Welcome, Mindy!

[heather1029]

I'm jealous of your snowstorm, girls! We just got back from chilly NYC to our boringly average weather in VA. No gloves needed, even.

This weekend has been the first time in over 11 months of charting that I didn't record temps during my typical O time! How adventurous of us!:rolleyes:

[Julss05]

Best wishes to everyone this month! Let's hope we all get a little something extra this year!:)

I'm jealous of your snowstorm, girls! We just got back from chilly NYC to our boringly average weather in VA. No gloves needed, even.

I hear you. No sun, rain, snow, warm, or cold, just a blah partly cloudy day. Have fun in NYC? DH parents live in Northern New York so we always drive around NYC to avoid traffic but it would be nice to visit someday. Good luck this month despite not temping!

[Goddess Tiff]

You can have our lovely northern IL weather, girls! Take it! Please! :D

Hate this snow, hate the ice storm of last night, and I would never complain if I never saw another white Christmas! Can you tell I'm a summer girl? :D


I'm CD...something. LOL. Can't remember, but it's like 12 or 13 or something I think. I think I'll be Oing soonish, seeing EWCM today and last cycle it started about a week before O day, which was CD20. I go to the dr Thurs so we can discuss any further steps to take at this point.

[Taylandra]

TM, please move me to Waiting to O. After spotting occ. today, I think I'm finally starting AF. I overrode my chart b/c I really do think I O'd on CD16, not CD13. It makes more sense to me now. So long as I O around that same time this month, I will be able to avoid having to BD at the IL's over Christmas. Then I can hope for a BFP on New Year's Eve!

Welcome, Mindy! Hope your stay is short!

I hear some of you on wanting snow...My DH takes me to Ice! at Opryland every year b/c it's the closet I'll get to being surrounded by snow here. My friends in WI just got 3 inches or so and I'm incredibly jealous!

Have a good beginning of the week!

[HunBun]

Mindy, those temps sound frustrating. Isn't it irritating when our bodies seem to give mixed signals?

Sorry about AF, Taylandra. But! Hooray for possibly not having to BD at your ILs house this month! LOL. That is a silver lining, huh?

Well, my temps went out of their little rut today, which I consider to be a good thing. I don't know if there's anything wrong with having the same temperature four days in a row, but it was starting to annoy me! Haha. :P

[Sue]

I typed a response yesterday and I forgot to hit submit!

I didn't test today, but I did yesterday and got a BFN, so I'm going to wait and test tomorrow. Dealing with a layer of ice everywhere this morning...

[Annette]

taylandra-Sorry about AF
Tiff-hope you catch that egg!
heather-I hope you catch that egg too!

me: Darn, I thought I O'd. The anticipation is killing me. I want a BFP so bad.

Sending ~baby dust~ to everyone!

[Wen]

Ok this is my attempt at giving SO's to a bunch of people. I actually wrote it down on paper to help. :)
Mizlarner Good luck testing
Taylandra Good luck BDing at the ILs
APhiJillWishing you good egg-catching skills this month
AnnetteI completely understand the BFF thing. Unfortunately my BFF's were wanting kids before DH and I felt the fever for it so we don't have the chance of that.
SeaHappy Anniversary!
SueGood luck testing tomorrow
ABirneyhope the RE visit went well
Missy329Sorry about AF ( I have a feeling I'll be there with you soon)
HunBunMy temps are like that all the time. They aren't going up right now which is irritating me to no end.
MMHincaI know I would like a BFP present this year for DH and I and to tell others.
Mindy2137Welcome!
HeatherGood luck not temping.
GoddessTiffGood luck at the Dr. Thurs.

I'm sure I missed people still so sorry to those I missed. I am pessimistic today. I don't like the fact that my temps are soaring up to the top of the chart. I also wish I could have started charting before we were actually TTC so I would know what my body is like. But DH wasn't ready yet and was terrified it would happen off BCP so I am plunged into wanting it so badly and not knowing and learning and impatience etc. So I will try to be in a better mood ..... just not today. (which makes me think AF is coming too with the grouchiness)
Good luck to all!

[Kopper]

So it looks like I may be having a chemical pregnancy. My temps are still way up but I've had BFNs the last two days after having three days of BFPs. I'm having a lot of the same symptoms that I had with DS. :( :( :(

[katiems118]

so Sorry Kooper

[akacharlotte]

Kopper I am so sorry. Are you going in to see the doctor?

[Wen]

So sorry Kopper.... : (

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to Here.

Kopper- So sorry about the BFNs. Please keep us updated.

[JillyBean]

Kopper - I'm so sorry. Can you get in to see your doctor?
Wen - I wish I had charted longer before TTC, too. This is our third cycle, and I'm already looking for patterns/differences between the last cycles. I wish I had more to go on.
Mindy - Welcome!

14 dpo and a BFN this morning. Temps are still high, my boobs have been pretty sore, and no sign of AF. I'm not very patient, so I wish I'd know something already. I don't have a good feeling about this cycle, but I'm trying to hold out hope until I see AF.

Good luck to everyone this month!

[Kopper]

JillyBean - So sorry about the BFN. :(

Thanks everyone. I can't really go to the doctor since our insurance ran out on Friday. If I do end up being pregnant we will get Cobra for me but if I'm not we will go with private insurance since it is so much cheaper. Either way I need to know first.

[CLW4KU]

CC Name:CLW4KU
Me: Courtney/25
DH: Kyle/30
Married since: 9/29/07
Off BCP since: 12/07
TTC since: 12/07
Charting since: 12/07
Known issues/test results:High BP
Chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c07e6
Current status: waiting to O

DH have agree to start TTC w/ charting. I've followed along on these boards for years so I'm excited to officially join. I'm expecting AF anyday now.

[ABirney]

Kopper so sorry about the BFN's. That sucks.
We are getting ready to leave for Sioux Falls, our IUI appt is at 8am tomorrow so we are going down tonight being it's a 2 hour drive and we are expecting an ice storm tomorrow. Yuck!

[Sue]

Kopper I am so sorry

Welcome CLW4KU! Hope your stay is short!!

Good luck tomorrow Abirney!

[Jill1228]

Kopper, I'm sorry to hear about the BFNs

Welcome Courtney

[heather1029]

Based on CM, I'm pretty sure I've Oed. Please move me to Waiting to Test 12/15

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to Here.

Welcome CLW4KU. I added you to "waiting to join" as we ask our members to join on CD1. It looks like you have ovulated and are waiting for AF. Let us know when she shows up and we will add you as an official member.

[JennZ]

Good luck, ABirney!!!

Welcome, CLW4KU!!

Kopper,
Sorry about the BFN's. I know the insurance situation can be extremely stressful. Hope everything works out for you guys!

[Taylandra]

Kopper- I'll keep you in my thoughts...I'm sorry you've been getting BFNs. :(

Welcome, CLW4KU! Hope you aren't here long!

Heather- Good luck with waiting to test!

ABirney- I hope that your travels are uneventful and the appointment is eventful!

JillyBean- I'm sorry to hear that you got a BFN today.

I'm really stressed out at work right now. We heard how another nursing home in the area did on their state survey and it was not promising. And this was another really good facility too...If you're stressed, it's your O date that can get pushed back, right?

[melandtim]

ABirney - good luck today!!!! My fingers are crossed for you!!

kopper - I am so sorry :(

I am not even going to attempt any other SO's so I am so sorry to anyone that AF found. To all who have O'd hope you caught that egg and to all getting ready to O hope you O soon. Here's hoping we get tons of BFPs this month!!!

I'm on CD 5. At my day 3 u/s I had 6 follies on each side! Started meds that day and go back on Friday to see where we are. Come on follies grow this time!

[Julss05]

Can you please update me to, "Think I O'ed - Testing 12/09-12/15," thanks. I think the first testing group is too early for me.

Kopper Sorry to hear about the BFNs:(. What about Planned Parenthood? Maybe they can offer services at no or minimal costs.

CLW4KU Welcome to the group!

melandtim, heather1029, ABirney Good luck!

Taylandra I always thought if your stressed it could delay AF but I'm sure it could delay O too.

I'm 9 DPO and so far no symptoms. Expecting AF in a week. I don't feel like I am pregnant at all so I'd be surprised if I am but hanging on to a little bit of hope.

[Annette]

Kopper-I'm so sorry.

CLW4KUWelcome!

mel-yay for follies!

jilly-still crossing fingers for you

taylandra-Stress definitely affects O. I was super stressed in Oct, and my O got pushed back about a week. Maybe it won't affect it if you are really close to O, like a day or 2? I don't think stress affects the LP.

abirney-good luck at your IUI.

heather-hope you get that BFP.

Sorry if I missed anyone.

me: I think I O'd, but I'll wait for FF to call it before I move to the test group. I'm so nervous since this will be my first 2ww since the m/c. We were avoiding to get all the testing out of the way.

[CLW4KU]

Thanks for the welcome!
JillI, too, am an Alpha Phi!

[kemaji]

I didn't end up testing when I was in CA because my temp plunged yesterday. I have been expecting AF to arrive at any minute and will be surprised if it doesn't arrive by the end of the day. I'm a little surprised my temp hasn't dropped any further this morning, but I'm not sure how accurate any of my temps were for the past week because of the travel and time change.

Kopper -- I'm so sorry.

ABirney -- I hope your IUI goes well today!

Julss -- My fingers are still crossed for you!

Taylandra -- If you're really stressed, your O can definitely be delayed, as can the onset of AF, etc.

Welcome CLW4KU!

Heather -- I hope this is it for you!

Wen -- high temps are good...it means you don't have a progesterone deficiency.

sorry to those I missed...I'm way behind and there's no way I can catch up on replies.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here.

[kemaji]

I've just finished chart stalking and Jillybean....have you tested yet? We need to see an updated chart!

[Jill1228]

Thanks for the welcome!
JillI, too, am an Alpha Phi!
hey sister! I added you on to my friends at FF :)

I hope to find out a few days early. I would love to find out if I am PG before I head to Miami with MIL, ya know?

[kanga1622]

Wow...y'all were chatty while I was gone. Sorry no shoutouts, I am way too far behind.

I'm recovering well, just left with lingering irritating pain, nothing sharp. On the plus side, I lost a few pounds since I can still only eat soft food. :) The foster pup got approved for adoption and will be leaving us this weekend provided there aren't further snow/ice storms that prevent his new family from picking him up.

[CLW4KU]

hey sister! I added you on to my friends at FF :)


I added you too!

[JillyBean]

I've just finished chart stalking and Jillybean....have you tested yet? We need to see an updated chart!
I just updated my chart. Thanks for the reminder! I tested yesterday, and it was negative. I didn't temp this morning because I had to get up two and a half hours earlier than I normally do, so I don't know if my temp is still high today. No AF like symptoms yet, though. I guess I'll see what tomorrow's temp looks like and maybe test again :)

[dancn226]

Hi everyone, not really in the mood for so's so I will be back later for them. I started a new job I have been doing temp work since, I have the dance studio. So I am working at ExxonMobil. Not a very fun place to work in a refinary, but whatever right, a check is a check. So, I haven't temped in two days because I have to be up at like 530 compaired to my 700 hour. So, needless to say I don't know what is up. AF is supposed to be here on thurs. I dont' believe this is our month. I just don't even feel anything. So, we will see.

[Gia]

Hi Everyone-
I have been lurking the past couple of months and have finally gotten over my shyness and decided to join. I really thought last cycle was it- I had all kinds of FPS that I never had before. But obviously, no luck. I am feeling better about things now. Our anniversary is coming up on the 30th and I would LOVE a BFP! :)

CC Name: Gia
Me: Gretchen/33
DH: M/40
Married since: 12/30/01
Off BCP since: early 02
TTC since: Sept 07
Charting since: off and on since Feb 02 (but was avoiding until 9/07)
Known issues/test results:
Chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/42e5f
Current status: waiting to O

[mindy2137]

dancn226 Gosh, girl, hang in there, it'll get better, good luck at your new job!

kemaji Good luck, keep AF away!!!

wen Keepin' my fingers crossed

sue Hope it comes soon

kopper Let us know about the outcome. Sorry :( Is there anyway you could go to a birthline or something to get checked free of charge just so you know what's up?

jillybean Hold on girl, it'll come

clw4ky Welcome!

taylandra Quit stressing! Good luck at your new job!

sulssus Good luck!!!

me Temps are wacky....waiting to O
Here's my chart...
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/186913

[mindy2137]

gia Welcome, hope your stay is short!!!

[Sue]

Well, I tested Sunday - BFN. Tested late last night (I know, but I couldn't wait till morning) - BFN. Tested this morning...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y247/misssue23/HPT.jpg

[JillyBean]

Congrats, Sue!! :D

[heather1029]

Omigosh! Congratulations Sue!!!! How exciting!

[Annette]

sue-congrats!!!

[MMHinCA]

Congratulations Sue!

Me: CD11... Negative OPK today (there was a dark line but not as dark as the control line)... EWCM... thinking I will O on CD 13-14.

I sent DH my Christmas list and the #1 thing on it was a baby! :)

[kemaji]

Yay! Congrats, Sue!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Congrats Sue!!! Let us know when you want to be moved.

Updated to here.

[akacharlotte]

Congrats Sue and Welcome Courtney and Gia!

[Goddess Tiff]

Congrats Sue!!

[mindy2137]

Oh my gosh SUE!!!!!! That is awesome! You totally got me, I was like what was she doing testing so late, and I was feeling so bad for you! And I scrolled down and saw the picture...CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!

[JLRenheos]

Congratulations Sue!! I peeked at your chart earlier & was wondering when you were going to test! Your chart looked nice. Yay! :D

[chi]

SUE-OMG!!! Congratulations!! That is TERRIFIC! Happy and healthy 9 months. Woo Hoo! :D :D:D:D

No time for SOs right now, super busy...but 6DPO with NO symptoms. UGH. Last month I had really sore BBs and I swore I was PG...but alas that was not the case. Maybe the lack of symptoms is promising. Probably not. :mad:

ETA: Welcome Courtney and Gia

[mpc863]

congrats Sue, that is awesome news! wishing you a healthy and happy 9 months.

[HunBun]

Congrats, Sue!!! That's so exciting!

[Sue]

Thanks everyone :) I tested this morning and got a BFN :confused: so I don't know what is going on... I'm going to test again and see what happens.

[Julss05]

Congrats Sue!! Hope this is it for you:).

[jellybeany]

Welcome CLW4KU & Gia! Hope your stays are short!

Congrats Sue! Hopefully this is it!

Can you please move me to Think I O'ed - Testing 12/09-12/15. FF called O and it looks like I'm 5 dpo. I didn't get a positive OPK (was using internet cheapies and got some lines but never as dark as the control) but my temp went up - plus my other signs (cm dried up & cp lowered) point to O. I hope the clomid worked and I really did O. If I did we had great BD timing.

[CLW4KU]

Congrats Sue!

[mindy2137]

I don't have time for shoutout's just wanted to say HI and hope everyone has a blessed day!!!!

If your bored, watch this!!!

http://www.elfyourself.com/?id=1174045169

[ABirney]

Hi ladies!
Welcome KLW4KU!
heather Hope you caught your egg!
taylandra Hope the state survey goes well. Stress can push O back, but once you O, your LP is usually about the same length no matter what.
mel Grow follies! Hope your appt Friday goes well!
Julss Hope the rest of your 2ww goes well and has good news!
Annette Hope this cycle ends with a sticky BFP for you!
kemaji Sorry about the temp drop, but hope AF stays away!
APhiJill Hoping your get your BFP... have fun on your trip!
kanga Glad your surgery went well, hope your mouth heals up soon so you can get some real food! Yay for pup finding a forever home!
JillyBean Sorry about the BFN.
dancn Hope you get surprised with a BFP this month!
Gia Welcome!
mindy I think your temps look ok.
Sue Hoping that was a fluke test and you get another BFP when you retest. Crossing my fingers for you!
MMH Hope you O soon and catch that egg!
chi Hope it's just too early for symptoms and you get good news in another week!
JellyBeany Hope the clomid did the trick and you caught the egg!
Sorry if I missed anyone, I was a bit behind and had quite a list!

Well we had our IUI yesterday. Everything went well. Post-wash count was 15 million. I start progesterone supps tomorrow morning and POAS in 2 weeks, they said I don't need to go in for a beta. DH is really excited now (he was nervous about things before) and asked me I don't know how many times yesterday if I felt pg yet :p and kept rubbing my tummy.

eta: TM, please move me to "testing Dec 16-22." Thanks!

[Wen]

Congrats Sue!!! So happy for you!

[kemaji]

Well, AF started for me this morning, so I am back in the waiting to O group.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here.

[Jill1228]

Sorry that the witch showed Kemaji :(

Sue, Congrats! Sending SBV!

FF just moved my cross hairs so now I am just at 5DPO. So since 7 DPO won't be till Friday, I am going for my progesterone blood work either Thursday or Friday. One day won't make a difference. I would like to go tomorrow so I can get the results on Friday before I leave for the cruise

[MMHinCA]

Me: CD12... waiting to test OPK... my EWCM is now a watery CM...? Ideally we should BD tonight, tomorrow, & Friday... but DH is working late tonight and tomorrow night PLUS MIL is coming to stay with us tomorrow til Monday! :( Hopefully we can find some time to BD.

[kanga1622]

Cautious Congrats Sue!
ABirney – Good luck with the IUI!

[JillyBean]

AF just showed, so I'm out, too. TM, please move me to waiting to O.

[raven077]

Congrats Sue!! Happy and Healthy 9 months!

Sorry to those AF found...

[Sue]

Thanks so much for the well wishes! I'm going to try again tomorrow, I had to pick up more tests :)

Sorry to those that got AF :(

[Taylandra]

Welcome Gia!

Big, big, BIG congrats to you, Sue!! H & H 9 months to you!

Ladies, thanks for the affirmation about stress and O. I'm really going to do all that I can the next two weeks to make sure that I stay relaxed...I want to O around my usual time so I can test before the end of the month! We don't have our state survey at this moment, but we are dealing with the ramifications of another facility that just had their survey and my boss is super worried for when our window opens at the end of the month. For her to be worried really worries me b/c she has been through 20-25 years of surveys, with and without the Feds. :eek: You can't control the whole world though, right? One day at a time!

Good luck to those testing (I'll be stalking your chart, ABirney) and many :mad: to those who AF found.

[MMHinCA]

Please move me to "taking a break"... DH is not on board with TTC! :( :( :(

[melandtim]

Congrat's Sue! Hope you get a nice dark line today!

MMH - I'm sorry Dh is not on board right now :(

ABirney - crossing my fingers for you that this is your month!

Jillybean and Kemaji - sorry AF showed :(

Have my day 8 u/s tomorrow to see where I am. Have had major EWCM the last 2 days which is really early for me

[Annette]

Threadmistress- PLease move me to Think I O'd, second testing group please.

MMH-Sorry that your DH isn't on board.

jillybean & kemaji-Sorry about AF.

Abirney-glad your IUI went well. I really hope you are pg this cycle. It looks like we are cycle buddies.

There are some pretty charts out there. Good luck to those testing soon.

me-FF finally called O. This 2ww is going to kill me! I really want a BFP. I hope to test on 11dpo (next friday), so I can go get b/w done before next weekend. I want to get on supplements ASAP if I need to.

[MizLarner]

Just dropping by to say I'm still around :) AF is due on Tuesday, but I'm crossing my fingers. My temps are still going up - I was down last night and told myself I wasn't going to be hopeful anymore unless I went up to 98.1.. and this morning I am at 98.08. The only thing is, I'm one that doesn't have temp drops when AF comes, so I don't have that to look for. My temps were all high right before AF last month. On the upside, my temps are not as erratic as they were last month.

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/993ed

Ces

[CLW4KU]

TM, Can you move me to Waiting to O?

[chi]

Sorry to all those that AF found. Big bummer. :mad:

ABirney-[B]I definitely will be chart stalking you, I have fingers and toes crossed for you and have a good feeling about you this month!! I am glad that DH is excited and best wishes that the IUI took!

[B]mel- good luck with the u/s tomorrow.

sue-[B]I'm thinking SBV for you!!

Good luck to all those who are testing. [B]Wen, I especially like the looks of your chart. When might you be testing??

I am 8 DPO with NO symptoms at all. I am not feeling positive AT ALL with this cycle. I keep telling myself it is okay, but I know I'll be devastated when AF shows her ugly face.

I was feeling very good about myself because I hadn't even THOUGHT of POAS. Well, I couldn't control myself this morning and I did it. UGH. Of course it was a BFN. I needed sunglasses to protect from the glare. UGH.

ETA: Anyone see Private Practice last night? I was SO irritated by how simple they made it all seem.

[jellybeany]

Anyone see Private Practice last night? I was SO irritated by how simple they made it all seem.

Arg! I said the same thing to DH while we were watching!

[Kopper]

Congrats Sue!! H&H 9 months to you!!

MMHinCA - Sorry your DH isn't on board. :(

Good luck to all those that just O'd and in the 2WW. Hope to see a lot of BFPs soon!

Sorry for those that AF found. :(

me - Thank you all for the support. I have been trying to read along but not really in the posting mood. Just hanging out and trying to figure out what the heck is going on. My temp is still really high and no spotting AT ALL. I haven't tested for two days b/c it was drinving me nuts. I talked to the MW and if I haven't had anything happen and still getting BFNs in by the week of the 17th she will send me for an u/s. The good news is that it's only $100. We got approved for private insurance and have 45 days to sign. If I'm not pregnant I will take it otherwise I will go on Cobra. I still have 80+ days to sign up for that. I did buy some FRER tests yesterday and am deciding if I should take one tomorrow. Any thoughts on my chart or when I should test?

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to Here.

[katiems118]

Kooper, your chart does have an upward trend...I say test with FMU tomorrow!

[Wen]

Chi - I tested this morning b/c I really needed some good news. (tons of bad news lately on both sides of the family) and BFN. 11DPO. I guess I didn't remember my cycle ever lasting this long so who knows what my body is doing. I was super proud of myself for waiting 11 days. FF says to wait to test until the 14th. I knew that wouldn't happen.

[chi]

Wen-I'm so sorry for all the bad news. I hope things brighten up soon!

Kopper-fingers crossed for your next test. Yeah for the insurance approval!

jellybeany-even DH was irritated. He was yelling at the TV with me! He has been trained so well. :D

I had lunch with a PG friend (who of course got PG their first month of trying) who did the whole "it will happen when it is supposed to happen". That made me feel good. :mad:

[Sue]

Well, I tested again last night and this morning and got a BFP both so I guess all is OK. I called my MW and I have an appointment next week, I'm due for my annual anyway... Now to convince my DH who doesn't think that HPT's are accurate :rolleyes:

Wen I tested at 10DPO with a BFN, then tested again on 12DPO with a BFP, definitely give it a day or so.

Kopper Temps are still up, hope you get good news soon!

MMH I'm sorry :(

chi I have no symptoms at all, except for some weird cramping... so there is always hope until AF arrives!

Sorry to anyone I missed...

[dancn226]

Well, I am out again this month....On to a year and 4 months of trying. After the holidays, i will be moving onto the RE route! I am tired of this crap!

[katiems118]

dancn- have you found a RE that you want to consider? I know sometimes it takes weeks before they can see you, you may be able to get an appt scheduled for Jan if you call now.

[ABirney]

kemaji Sorry AF found you.
APhiJillHave a fun trip!
MMH Sorry DH decided he wasn't ready. Hope you'll be back soon!
JillyBean sorry AF found you.
taylandra Staying stress-free sounds like a good plan!
mel Good luck tomorrow... hope lots of EWCM means lots of follie growth!
Annette Hope you caught your egg!
MizLarner Hope AF stays away.
CLW Sorry AF found you.
chi 8DPO is a bit early... hope you get better test results in a few days!
kopper Hope you figure out what's going on soon. glad you have a couple options as far as insurance goes.
wen Sorry about the BFN.
Sue Glad you got another BFP. Sending you sticky vibes!
dancn Sorry AF found you.

Thanks everyone for all the positive thoughts coming my way!

[Annette]

dancn-I'm sorry.

[heather1029]

I tell you, ladies, I am SO confused with my cycle! I totally wish I had charted the past week!!! I thought my CM had dried up (and it did for 1.5 days) but then the EWCM came back with a vengeance and hasn't left! That said, my temp was sky high today (the highest it's ever been for a CD23)... I have no clue if I've ovulated or not, so I guess just keep me where I am in the waiting to test!

[melandtim]

dancn - I'm sorry :( I would definitely try to schedule an appointment now since some REs can be really backed up

Sue - that's fantastic! Good luck!

Wen - sorry about the BFN :( Give it another day or 2

So I had 3 follies this AM on the left ovary and my cyst has shrunk! And 2 on the right and it looks like it will be that side but most likely it will only be one follie again :( Will know more tomorrow

[jellybeany]

Sue ~ Congrats! H&H 9 months!

dancn226 ~ So sorry about AF!

heather1029 ~ I would keep temping and maybe end up going off of your cm. Good luck!

melandtim ~ Hopefully everything goes well tomorrow!


I'm still here hanging out at 7 dpo - patiently waiting! :)

[katiems118]

Heather- I checked out your chart, and Im going to say that you most likely O'ed on CD 22....given the EWCM, and now the temp jump, Im sure you will see a high temp tomorrow too, try to temp if you can. Testing around the 16-17th of Dec makes sense to me.

[chi]

Sue-congrats again, that is terrific.

wen- fingers still crossed for you.

jelly-welcome to the 2ww. I wish you good luck!

heather-i agree with katie. Tomorrow's temp should be informative.

dancn- i am so sorry. :mad: i agree you should start making calls for the RE to make sure that you can get in when it is good for you.

mel- i'm glad that the cyst has shrunk. looking forward to your news tomorrow.

me- 9 DPO, still no symptoms. I broke down and tested again. I know it is likely too early, but I just can't help myself. :( The problem is that I get all sad when it is a glaring BFN, but I am just so impatient. What is wrong with me?!?! Wishing all testers out there the best of luck and much more resistance than I am able to give to the POAS urges!!

[oceanblue]

Sue-Congrats!!! A very happy and healthy 9 mos. to you!

Sorry girls for the absence. Our computer at home took a dump. Our new one should be hooked up tomorrow or Sunday (yeay!!). I'm using a friend's computer right now. So no SOs for now.
Threadmistress-please move me to O'd, testing 12/9-12/15.

OK, hopefully I'll be back really soon on our new computer!!! Take care ladies!

[Julss05]

Hi girls,
I'm going Christmas shopping this morning for DH while he is at school so no time for SOs, be back later.

I've been having very light spotting the past two days with a temp. plunge today so AF should be arriving shortly. I wasn't expecting AF until Tuesday but I guess the earlier the better so we can move onto TTC this month and possibly test by New Years. I won't be testing this cycle unless my temp. goes back up.

We were watching, "She's Having a Baby" last night, and I was thinking I hope I never become as neurotic as his wife, but I'm sure it's bound to happen:rolleyes:. Anyone catch the Dr. Phil show Thursday? I can't stand him but they were talking about women who want a baby and for whatever reason (husband doesn't want kids, infertility problems, ect....) are unable to and how that creates problems in the marriage because of spouses not agreeing. Luckily DH and I both want to TTC but we both have different attitudes about it. My attitude is to make this happen asap so we can move onto the next step, but DH is more laid back and doesn't seem to care when it happens whether it be 6-12 months from now as long as it does eventually. If we were much younger I think I'd have a more casual attitude but considering we want at least two kids we don't have a lot of time to waste. Anyway didn't mean to rant. Good luck to all those testing soon! Happy healthy 9 months to Sue and Kopper!

[dancn226]

Okay girls, since I am going to go against what my dr. says with staying on the clomid and taking it for two more cycles, how do I find an RE in my location? I have PPO ins. so I am not worried about a referral. But I want to get all this stuff scheduled so I can get on with this stuff.

Let me know if there is link anywhere that I can get to find a dr. in this area?

TIA!!!!

[MizLarner]

I'm no help with RE findings - don't even really know what RE stands for..

I'm going to a playdate with the babies this morning, and then going to watch The Nutcracker this afternoon.

I'm excited about my chart! I hd a huge temp jump this morning - from 98.18 yesterday to 98.44 today.

[Annette]

dancn-Usually your insurance company website will have a doctor search on it somewhere. I would start there. You can always ask your current ob for recommendations. good luck!

mizlarner-have fun at the nutcracker. yay for the temp jump.

julss-sorry about AF's pending arrival.

ocean-hope you caught that egg!

chi-sorry about the bfn. It probably is too early to test. how long is your typical LP?

mel-hope you get some good news on your follies

heather-i say you O'd on cd22.

Good luck to all those testing soon.

me: I ended up with a headache last night and it's continued on till this morning and I feel so groggy too. My bbs are already sore and that normally doesn't happen till 8 or 9 dpo. I hope next week goes fast cause I don't think I can be patient waiting to test.

[chi]

dancn- I too am no help with finding a RE. Maybe just go onto your insurance company's website and see what you can find?

MizLarner-yeah for the temp spike, that is always good news.

annette- maybe the headache and early sore bbs are a good sign. I always like to think that when there is a new symptom (such as early sore bbs) that it is a positive thing...maybe this is it. Fingers crossed.

ocean-Good luck. I hope you caught your eggie.

juls- boo on the impending arrival of AF.

me- 10DPO and another BFN. I am not going to test for a few days. My usual LP is about 13 days. Tonight is my work xmas party and I wanted to test to see if I had an answer before I even thought about having a drink or two tonight.

[stacy654]

Just checking in... I will be back much sooner than I originally anticipated. My OB gave me the go ahead to TTC after 1 (woohoo) cycle. Now come on AF!!! I never thought I would say that.

Question for you girls who have been TTC or have conceived after a m/c. Does temping/charting indicate anything between m/c (or d&c) and AF arriving? (i.e. temp drop) Any help advice you can give is appreciated!!!

[katiems118]

dancn- i just did a search for infertility clinics in my area, and the OBGYN's they list there are usually RE's. Once i had some names, i searched the insurance directory to see if they participated, it was so much easier that way for me.I did find that my insurance website didnt differentiate between OB and RE. hope that helps

[Jill1228]

See y'all when I get back from the cruise. I will either get one of 2 things on the cruise. FF has my testing date for the 14th

AF or a BFP. I'll take the BFP please

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here.

[Julss05]

Can you please update me to, "Taking a Charting Break," thanks.
Sigh.....AF showed today. We are going to TTC this cycle but I really need a break from charting. I think temping is what screwed me up this past cycle making me think I ovulated earlier than I did. Maybe if I pay more attention to my body I'll have better luck:confused:. I'll be back in January for testing! May come out from lurking to post a little;). Wish you all the best this month! Happy Holidays:).

[sea74]

CONGRATS SUE!!!!! :D H&H 9 months and beyond!

Waving HELLO to everyone! :D I really missed checking in on you all while I was gone. DH and I had an amazing time on vacation and it was *just* what we needed. The weather was perfect but now we're back to freezing cold temps :mad: Also, I spotted off and on while we were away, but not the whole time, which was nice. I even got my hopes up but my temp DOVE today :(

As a side note has anyone picked up Newsweek? I grabbed one at the airport this morning because the whole front cover was a PG chick and the title was Fertility & Diet: How what you eat affects your odds of getting PG I'd recommend it to anyone dealing w/hormonal fertility challenges/unexplained. The article was very lengthy and informative. It talks about a study that was recently done and it sounds like it was one of the first of it's kind. I eat pretty well and I love grainy breads/carbs. I also only eat fat-free dairy from milk, to yogurt, to cheese, salad dressing, sour cream, butter, etc. I guess there's a link to consuming fat-free dairy and what they call "ovulatory infertility," which accounts for 1/4 or more of all cases of infertility and it's a problem related to the maturation or release of a mature egg. I also read this "fat-free" dairy link and infertility in another magazine at my RE's office this summer. Let's just say I'm going to be switching to whole milk for awhile. Anyway, it's really worth the read.

[kemaji]

Sea -- I've read that article too and found it very interesting, especially the part about how removing the fat can change the hormonal make up of the product and when we consume it, ourselves. I read elsewhere that cholesterol, which is present in fats, is an important item for hormone production. After the brain, our endocrine glands (adrenals and sex glands) consume the most cholesterol in the body. This includes much of our hormone production including progesterone, testosterone and a number of other hormones.

Anyway. I don't drink a lot of milk, but I've made the switch to whole milk also. I've always preferred the taste of whole milk so I may not switch back. I don't do non-fat dairy (don't like the way it tastes), so this isn't a huge switch for me.

[Charting is Knowledge]

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[heather1029]

As a side note has anyone picked up Newsweek? I grabbed one at the airport this morning because the whole front cover was a PG chick and the title was Fertility & Diet: How what you eat affects your odds of getting PG I'd recommend it to anyone dealing w/hormonal fertility challenges/unexplained. The article was very lengthy and informative. It talks about a study that was recently done and it sounds like it was one of the first of it's kind. I eat pretty well and I love grainy breads/carbs. I also only eat fat-free dairy from milk, to yogurt, to cheese, salad dressing, sour cream, butter, etc. I guess there's a link to consuming fat-free dairy and what they call "ovulatory infertility," which accounts for 1/4 or more of all cases of infertility and it's a problem related to the maturation or release of a mature egg. I also read this "fat-free" dairy link and infertility in another magazine at my RE's office this summer. Let's just say I'm going to be switching to whole milk for awhile. Anyway, it's really worth the read.

Sea -- I've read that article too and found it very interesting, especially the part about how removing the fat can change the hormonal make up of the product and when we consume it, ourselves. I read elsewhere that cholesterol, which is present in fats, is an important item for hormone production. After the brain, our endocrine glands (adrenals and sex glands) consume the most cholesterol in the body. This includes much of our hormone production including progesterone, testosterone and a number of other hormones.

Anyway. I don't drink a lot of milk, but I've made the switch to whole milk also. I've always preferred the taste of whole milk so I may not switch back. I don't do non-fat dairy (don't like the way it tastes), so this isn't a huge switch for me.

I've actually been eating "high" fat for a year, myself. Although, I started on it after I read the books "Nourishing Traditions: The Cookbook that Challenges Politically Correct Nutrition" and "The Maker's Diet."
Over the years, we've all been fed a lot of fibs about fat and cholesterol in the diet. They've been villainized, when really, they're so much more necessary (and in so much larger quantities!) than we ever thought.

To get my cholesterol and fat, I've been eating one egg fried in butter every morning, along with a boiled egg on my spinach salad at lunch, and plenty of full-fat yogurts & cheeses every day! Funny thing is, my blood cholesterol levels are lower than ever, and I've gone from a size 8 to a size 4. The fact that it's good for fertility makes me all the more happy!

[Annette]

sea-welcome back! Glad you had a good vacation.

julss-good luck! hope you get a bfp next cycle.

chi-are you going to test this AM?

stacy-yay for the TTC go ahead. My cycles returned to normal following my m/cs. Temps before O were still in normal range and my temp dropped below the coverline when AF came.

me: nothing going on here. Just trying to patiently wait for Friday to test.

[melandtim]

Welcome back sea!!!

stacy - that's fantastic you got the go ahead to TTC again! I hope AF shows up soon for you!

Julss - sorry AF showed :(

Mizlarner - your chart looks fantastic!!!

We've got a lot of testers coming up. Good luck to all!

I didn't have to go in Saturday, they dropped my dose down and I did the trigger on Saturday night so my IUI is this morning!

So TM please move me to O'd testing Christmas Eve!!! Dear Santa I've been a very good girl please bring me my BFP!!!!

[kanga1622]

Mel - Good luck with your IUI!

Nothing much happening for me. We had company over the weekend so I didn't get to temp. Plus, with having my wisdom teeth removed I'm not expecting much out of this cycle.

[MizLarner]

Fun day at home today:rolleyes: No work because my school district is closed, but I've got a sick boy. I think my 8yo has the flu. At least we still have our power!

I tested yesterday, BFN, and I'm scheduled to start AF today, but my temps are still up. I'm feeling slightly crampy and nauseated, but those could either be pg or my endo. At least I have testing out of my system for a while, I don't have any more tests in the house and I'm not taking my 8yo with me to get a pg test, even when he's not sick!

[Wen]

So last week FF took my crosshairs away. This really bummed me out at the time. Well after this morning's temp they are back. AF still hasn't shown up. I don't know what that means yet though b/c before BCP my cycle wasn't very normal. We'll see I guess. I am going to try to wait until Friday to test again. I am still holding out hope. Thanks for all the warm wishes from everyone. I'm sorry for no SO's this time but work is crazy. Good luck to everyone about to test. I know there are a ton of us POAS this week. It's like a virtual POAS marathon!:D

[chi]

sea-WELCOME BACK!! We missed you around here!!

mel- good luck with the IUI today!


mizlarner- sorry about the BFN and your son's flu. Poor little guy must not be feeling well at all.

wen-yeah for rising temps!

Annette-I'm sending you all the patienence I didn't have to wait to test. I did POAS yesterday and it was a BFN. Followed by a HUGE temp dive today (12DPO) so I am pretty confident that I am out.

me This cycle has just felt different than the others, so I was holding out hope that it was different for a very special reason. Alas, today is 12DPO and I had a HUGE temp dive (which is also out of the ordinary for me). I am also a little crampy so I suspect AF is on her way into town.

This will mark our 4th cycle TTC. All cycles have been with the assistance of a FM or OPKs, so I am pretty sure they have been well timed. I know there is a small chance each cycle of success, but I am starting to worry that something is wrong with one of us and I feel like we are rapidly running out of time (I am 33 and DH is 36) Anyone have any advice on how long to wait or next steps? My OB/GYN thinks all is fine b/c I had an u/s which was normal, followed by baseline Day 3 and 7DPO b/w. I got back the Day 3 b/w and that was normal, still waiting for the results for the 7DPO b/w.

Sorry for the long post. I am just feeling REALLY down today about this whole thing. I spent a good part of my 20's and 30's trying not to get PG and now, I can't even though I want to, and know that we would make good parents. I know this is not a rationale thought, but I kind of feel like we are being punished for waiting till we were ready. Does that make sense? In my mind I know in the end there is a plan for us and we just have to sit tight, but my heart just breaks as each cycle passes.

I guess the silver lining is that I was actually was kind of bummed that if we had been successful these last cycles it would have resulted in summer babies. As a former school teacher I always felt badly for the kids with the summer bdays! Now, we will hopefully have a Fall birthday.

[MizLarner]

My son seems to be doing better, so I don't know if it even is flu. Still no AF yet, so I may be testing again on Saturday. Actually I just bought 5 FRERs on ebay (which reminds me, I need to pay for those..) so I'll just use one whenever they come in. IF AF doesn't come. They expire next month, so I'll probably use all of them fairly quickly :p

Chi - That's kind of amusing that you felt sorry for summer birthday kids! I just say this because I am a teacher, and I would rather have my kids' birthdays in the summer so I can spend the time with them! I have two summer birthdays (June and July) and an October birthday that's on our second fall conference day, which is a half-day of conferences for us. I felt lucky! :) My 8yo never seemed to mind having a summer birthday, either. And I felt relieved that I didn't have to worry about inviting the entire class, especially since our extended family has a bunch of kids anyway.

[melandtim]

chi - most doctors won't do much until you have been trying for a year unless you are over 35 then its 6 months. Has your DH been in for a SA?
My DH is 44 and even though I am only 31 I also feel we are running out of time. We have been trying for almost 2 years and all testing has come out fine for us we are just unexplained. i would give it a couple more months and then go back to your doctor and see about a SA and maybe an HSG.

Wen - I think FF gave you the crosshairs because of the major temp drop the day before. its not real clear if you O'd or not

Mizlarner - temp still being up is a good thing :)

kanga - hope you have recovered from your wisdom teeth.

IUI went well but I am really cramping again. Had between 2-3 follies and DH's count was almost double last time so that's good news!

[katiems118]

Wen- I think that perhaps this cycle is annovulatory. It doesnt look like clear temp shift. Hopefully you will have an answer soon.

Mel, Hope you get your BFP for Christmas!

Chi- I went to my doc after 6 months, so you could make an appt now for Feb just in case you dont get pg in the next 2 months...at least you wouldnt have to wait for the appt then.

[mpc863]

hi! cd 12 and i got a peak on the monitor today. do you think it matters when we bd today and tomorrow (i.e., should it be am/pm or does it matter?)

i'm so sorry to all of those that AF found.

best of luck to those testing this week!

[sea74]

Mel: I SO, SO hope you get a BFP on Christmas Eve!!!! It would be special ANY time, but that just seems a little more magical!

Chi: I went off the pill July '06. DH and I "tried" for a couple of months and then stopped due to work reasons (if I had only known how much trouble TTC would be we would not have stopped trying :mad:). Then in November we started TTC again. I had my annual exam in early January and brought all my charts w/me which over that 6 month time span was 9 cycles. I have, and have always had, VERY short cycles. My GYN knew my short cycle history and said we'd start doing Clomid/progesterone that cycle. I feel VERY lucky to have had a Dr. who doesn't really put stock into the the "12 months trying under 35" and "6 months trying over 35" rule when helping women. What he believes is if there is an evident problem, like my short cycles and constant spotting, there is no reason to wait.
I know 4 months seems like an lifetime to wait, but your dr. may think otherwise. If you have that gut feeling like you need help, be firm w/your doctor. If your doctor doesn't listen, find one who will. I may come off a little extreme but if I had been made to wait the 12 months because I'm under 35 ... well, where would we be now? I did my first fertility treatment in January and here it is 12 months later and I'm STILL not PG :( I guess my point is listen to your gut. It's more than likely there is NOTHING wrong and you will conceive soon but also listen to what your body is saying.

mpc863 When I get my first Peak reading I try to BD around 5:00 p.m. and no later than 8:00 p.m. Then I'm in bed the rest of the night. The next day I try and BD as soon as DH is ready again. For me though, I have found that more times than not I O on the day of the first Peak reading, but not always. GOOD LUCK TO YOU!!!

Thanks for the welcome back ladies! I really missed checking in here every day! But I will say, being on vacation and away from the Web for the 2ww was heaven. I told DH we'll have to go on vacation every 2ww from now on!:p

When we were at Animal Kingdom we passed a big stork. I stopped and started talking to him. I told him I'd been waiting for him to make a special delivery to my home and I was getting tired of waiting. As we were leaving I rattled off our address to him just to be sure ;) And yes, my DH was slightly embarrassed ...

[mpc863]

sea, thanks for the advice. unfortunately, i won't be home from work until close to 10. it will have to do! i have pulled out all the stops this cycle, including pre-seed and instead cups. i hope all of the "assistance" works!

[chi]

sea, mel and katie-thanks for the words of wisdom. I'm really fortunate to have a doctor who is super proactive. I mentioned off the cuff the last time I was there that I was afraid I might have PCOS. He said he didn't think so, but sent me for b/w and an u/s just to make sure. At the time he also told me that DH should go get a SA. We just haven't done that b/c it wouldn't be covered under insurance and b/c I didn't want DH to think that there was something "wrong with him." I guess it is time to get that done, since I was wrong, this was our 5th cycle, the first was without any charting or timing assistance. It will be just one more piece to the puzzle.

mel-love the stork story, and by the way, I TOTALLY would have done the same thing.

mpc863- I usually just make sure not to waste too many hours between BDing on those two days. I usually follow a schedule similar to sea.

[Gia]

Thanks for the welcome everyone!

I am in the boring part of my cycle right now. This month I have grape juice, OPKs, and FRER tests so at least I feel prepared! :)

I am in the same boat as some of the previous posters. I'm 33, but DH just turned 40. This is our 4th cycle TTC. I think I will try to get in to see the Dr in February if I'm not pregnant yet. I think there is a strong possibility that I have endometriosis and I feel stupid for not going in YEARS ago and being more forceful about getting checked.

Sea74 (I think that was you who mentioned it)- thanks for mentioning the Newsweek article- I think I will pick that up. Does it say anything about 1% dairy products/part skim/lower fat, or is it just the FF? I don't do the FF but I do use a lot of lower fat dairy.

Heather - I think I will pick up that "Nourishing Traditions" book too. It sounds good!

Good luck to everyone this month! If I ovulate when I typically do, I think I'll be testing on X-Mas too! We'll see.

[katiems118]

chi- We went and had a Sperm analysis done and it worked out to be $80, and insurance paid for it....so you can always call the lab and ask how much they charge.

[sea74]

gia: It talked about the benefit being from FULL-FAT milk (and milk sources like ice cream :D ) while both skim and low-fat milk contributed to ovulatory infertility.

mpc: I'm sure 10:00 will be just fine ;) I really hope it pays off for you this month!

[PugLover]

CC Name: PugLover
Me: Julia/28
DH: Josh/29
Married since: April 20, 2002
Off BCP since: June 2002
TTC since: Nov 2007
Charting since: June 2004
Known issues/test results: miscarriage Sept 06
Chart: in my sig
Current status: waiting to O

[Jill1228]

Greetings. I am on my cruise right now and I know with the time zone change, my temps have been FUBAR. Hope they go back to normal tomorrow

I am at 10dpo and had BFN :( Hope I tested too soon

Talk to ya when I get back

[ABirney]

Hi ladies!
Julss Hope a break does you good!
sea Welcome back, glad you had a good vacay! LOL about your stork story!
Annette Good luck Friday!
mel Glad your IUI went well, hope you get a great Christmas present!
kanga Hope this cycle goes quickly and you can have a good chance next cycle.
MizLarner Sorry about the BFN, hope AF stays away though! Hope your DS feels better soon too.
wen Hope you get a BFP soon!
chi Sorry about the BFN.
mpc Hope you catch your egg!
Gia Hope your cycle goes as scheduled and you get a nice Christmas present also!
puglover Welcome!
Jill Have a great vacation!
Sorry to anyone I missed!

Nothing new here. 6DPIUI and just hanging out.

[HunBun]

Ohhh, I am WAY behind here! The holidays are such a busy time. I'm going to try to catch up on shoutouts from the last few pages, but please forgive me, because I'm sure I'll miss someone. I've been away from this thread for too long!

mel and Annette and MizLarner and anyone else testing in the near or semi-near future - Good luck!! I'm sending good thoughts to you all.

mpc863 - Yay for a peak reading! That's so exciting. I don't know the answer to your question about BD timing, but I wish you tons of luck!

chi- I empathize with feeling down about each unsuccessful cycle. We're only on our third cycle, but it just seems like forever. This is the sucky part of TTC, I guess.

sea74 - Welcome back! That's such a cute story about the stork.

Jill - Hope you're having a great time on your cruise!

Puglover - Welcome!! I was an April 02 bride too- one week after you. Did you post on the WC back then?

Re: that Newsweek article... I read it with great interest. I'm not sure what to do with the advice about dairy, though, as I'm lactose intolerant! Oh well. I had half a slice of cheesecake tonight. I hope it operates on the same principle as ice cream. :p (Actually, I'm cutting back on sugar a lot during TTC... but everyone needs a little splurge now and then, right?)

[melandtim]

Thanks everyone for the good thoughts, i am really feeling hopeful this time!

sea - I love the stork story, that is just so funny! My DH would have just walked away and pretended he didn't know me :p

chi - that's fantastic that your doctor is so proactive. I think the SA is in the $200 range if you have to pay for it yourself. Most insurance companies pay for it if you go to their lab.

ABirney - fingers crossed for you!!

Welcome puglover!!

mpc - hope you caught that egg!

Jill - hope you are having a great time on your cruise!

[Annette]

Thanks for the good luck wishes.

jill-hope you're having fun on the cruise. Hope you bring back a nice surprise :)

Pug & Gia-welcome!

Good luck to those testing soon.

question-Does the value of post O temp correlate to how much progesterone your body produces? My post O temps have been hovering in the 98.1-98.3 range and I'm worried that if I am pg, it won't be very sticky. Other cycles of mine, it's been in the 98.4-.5 range. I'm worried that cause my bbs got sore earlier, I might have a shorter LP. I hate worrying about this. All I want is a very sticky pg that lasts 9 months this time. Is that too much to ask?

[MizLarner]

Sea - love the stork story! Too bad you didn't have a video camera on hand :p

[Charting is Knowledge]

Welcome PugLover!!!

Updated to here.

[mpc863]

hi! quick, question...

i got a peak yesterday on the monitor. we bd'ed saturday, sunday, and last night. i got another peak today. however, my temps don't look that great. i'm not sure what's going on and don't know if it's imperative that we bd this morning. DH is crossing his fingers that the answer is no :p

my chart
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/31c13

[katiems118]

MizLarner- Your chart looks great, when are you testing?

[Sue]

I have an appointment with my MW on Thursday, please move me to waiting to graduate :)

Good luck to everyone testing and sorry to those that AF found :(

[Charting is Knowledge]

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Sue- Happy and Healthy 9 months to you! Let us know when you are ready to officially graduate.

[jellybeany]

I'm here at 12 dpo - my temp went up some more this morning. I tested but got a bfn. :(

[melandtim]

jellybeany and mizlarner - both your charts look fantastic. Good luck to you both!

[Annette]

9 dpo here. I tested and got a BFN :(. I figured it was too early but I wanted to test anyway. Temp went up really high. I hope my therm is still good. It's beeping noises sound really sad... I am going to wait till Friday to test again.

sue-hope all goes well at your appt.

jelly-your chart looks really good.

[chi]

TM-please move me to waiting to O, AF has arrived. :(

Good luck to all those who are testing! Sorry to all those that AF found this cycle.

[MizLarner]

MizLarner- Your chart looks great, when are you testing?

I bought some FRERs on Ebay on Monday, so whenever they get here I'll be testing again.

DH bd'd again last night, and I think he's happy now. He was claiming himself to be celibate:(

[kanga1622]

Thanks everyone for the well wishes with my teeth. I'm doing much better and the pain is pretty much gone unless I eat something very crunchy.

I have been trying to read along but am behind at work due to half days most of last week. Things should slow down significantly toward the end of next week and then I hope to get caught up and back to shoutouts.

[MizLarner]

I started spotting :( i wiped once and there was nothing, then I saw CM falling that looked a little pink. I wiped again, and there was pink. So I may be out of the game this month :( But I don't usually spot before I start, so do you think I might still have a chance? I'm 15 dpo so it would seem a little late for implantation spotting.

[Wen]

Just a couple of quick so's

Sue happy and healthy 9 Months in case I haven't said it already.
Chi I am so sorry AF showed I was really hoping this would be it for you.
mpc I have no idea what to tell you I think it's too late for advice now anyway I'm not familiar enough with it yet
Annette, jellybeany, Good luck testing on the next round of POAS
Kanga glad you're feeling better and I totally understand the work craziness
MizlarnerI really wish I had some help to give you on that but I have no idea I'm completely hoping and keeping my fingers crossed for you

Good luck to any others testing, sorry to those that AF decided to visit, and I'm sending patience vibes(if there is such a thing) to those waiting for anything (cause sometimes waiting is awful).




me I went before Thanksgiving to the health center connected to our office/insurance - it's free to employees. I had my female exam for a type of insurance that sends a $60 check if we do some type of wellness exam during the year. I told the Dr. then that we were TTC and showed her a copy of FF. She was great about everything and told me to come back some time after Thanksgiving to talk to me about TTC. So I went today and she said she wanted me on a prescription pre-natal and to come back in either two weeks or on the first day of AF to start Clomid. I guess I need to do some more research on Clomid now b/c I wasn't really expecting to hear that she would want to start something this early since several people on here have had to wait so long to try anything. Anyway I am still waiting until Friday to POAS but I really think it didn't happen this time. Oh well we'll see.
I am feeling a new sense of peace with the Dr. visit today so that's nice.

[MizLarner]

Any possibility that my spotting could be from BD last night? I had random weird spotting earlier this cycle too, before O. I think those were from BD also.

[katiems118]

Wen- A lot of doctors prescribe clomid freely, but it really is something that should be monitored. A lot of women with PCOS get pg on clomid. The way you know clomid works is by a 7dpo progesterone test, did she mention doing one of those?

If for some reason this current cycle is annovulatory, then they would give you Provera to end the cycle and start fresh. I would seek out a Reproductive Endocrinologist.

[Wen]

katiems118 yes she did go over the process similar to what you are describing briefly she said she would go over it in more detail that day to wait and see what my body does on it's on at first and then she would discuss with me and let us decide. Thanks for the info. I was trying to remember the specific wording she used so your post will help me in reading up on it. I was just going to call her office tomorrow to write the info down this time instead of trying to remember it all. I should know better than to go in the middle of a work day when my brain is mush.

[sea74]

Any possibility that my spotting could be from BD last night? I had random weird spotting earlier this cycle too, before O. I think those were from BD also. Yes, after you O, your cervix can be very sensitive and any irritation of it could cause harmless spotting. I'm anxious to see your chart tomorrow. Hope your temp is nice and high :)

[tunibell]

Well, I think I finally managed to O (on Day 31, grumble grumble), although my temp this morning was lower than it's ever been post-O. So who knows. If I make it to 10 DPO I'll test then.

Fabulous Threadmistress, would you kindly move me to Think I O'ed, Testing 12/16-12/22?

[Charting is Knowledge]

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[missy329]

Hello everyone- Sorry I have been MIA. We have had a huge three week long inspection at work and the inspectors finally left yesterday! I am so glad that is over. I am currently on CD13 and just waiting for a +OPK. Hopefully I will get it in the next few days.

Tunibell- Hope you caught that egg.

Wen- Glad your visit to the Dr went well. I hope you don't need to move on to Clomid but please do be carefull with it. I am currently reading a blog of a woman who ended up having quadruplets from an unmonitored cycle of clomid. I think I would be looking for an RE also.

MizLarner- Hope the spotting is gone. Can't wait to see your chart.

Kanga- Glad you are feeling better.

Chi- Sorry about AF.

Annette- Your chart looks good. 9 DPO is very early. Hope you get a BFP in the next few days.

[melandtim]

Wen - I agree with everyone else be very careful with Clomid. I had major problems while on it and ended up having surgery twice after clomid cycles. They don't think the clomid caused the problems but you never know. The side effects can be pretty bad as well. Just make sure they are doing some monitoring.

mizlarner - I have my fingers crossed for you!

Kanga - glad to hear you are doing alot better :)

tunibell - hope you caught that egg!

chi - sorry AF showed :(

Annette - your chart looks great. I hope that it was just too early to test

[akacharlotte]

Just popping in to wish everyone testing this week lots of luck!

jellybeany and MizLarner-Your charts look very promising!!!

I think I'm CD17 today. We've been BDing every other night assuming I O sometime between CD14 and CD 22.

[dancn226]

Hi everyone, just dropping by to say hey. I am not charting this motnh. Just not feeling it.

Its obvious that its going to take a lot more than a thermometer to get us pg. So we are using this time to just have fun, catch up on some bills and get our shit together. Then we will start wtih the RE. We are in no rush to really get pg. It would be nice, but I am not going to force it . So I am going to stop charting for now. After we go see and RE, we will go from there. But for now, I really feel like its going to take more.

[Wen]

Thanks for all of the advice. I'm not sure what we'll do now. I definitely don't want to do anything without tons of research, so I don't know what will happen now. I really appreciate all of the input though, when I was looking into it on the internet there was really very little negative in comparison to positive. I also only used the word Clomid and didn't put any other words with it that would bring up more negative results so I'll try that now. I haven't even looked into and RE just b/c I wasn't expecting to deal with this for awhile esp. since it seemed like so many on here and other chat rooms I frequent had to wait 6 months to a year before going to one.

Oh well enough of me rambling.
Thanks again

[MizLarner]

Well, I'm not happy at all with my temp this am, but at least it's still well above the coverline.. maybe I'll recover :o

[sea74]

Wen: My GYN put me on Clomid last January after we had been trying since November, so not that long. However, my GYN knew my history with super short cycles and almost constant spotting. I had been with him since I was 19 years old. Anyway, I had no monitoring back then and I because I was unaware of the potential side effects, most importantly high order multiples :eek: I look back and think what a mistake (not the getting help ealry, but the no monitoring).

I guess my point is don't be put off by your GYN wanting to help you sooner rather than later, but put off by the lack of monitoring. What if Clomid REALLY stimulates your ovaries and you get PG with 4-6 babies? Or what if you develop a cyst that goes undetected and it burst and takes an ovary with it? Both are extreme but have happened. Not trying to freak you out but let you know why monitoring it very important.

[mindy2137]

I really don't have time for SO's! Sorry, I'm running late. Can someone please help me quick?
Yesterday I would say my CM was creamy at best. But I had a temp spike this morning!?! I know I have time today for EWCM, but if the temp went up, have I already O'ed and it's too late? Please share with me your thoughts! We couldn't bd last night, the soonest we can is tonight, will that be too late? How long can an egg survive? I just feel like we missed it.
Here's my chart
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/186913

[MizLarner]

The egg survives for 24 hours, so I think there would still be a chance if you BD tonight :)


AFM: I just went through every single chart I have on FF, most of which only have information on AF. I don't have spotting before AF marked for any of them, so I wonder if this could just be late implantation spotting. I've been reading online and come across cases of people who did have late implantation.

[melandtim]

mindy - don't panic yet. Unless your temp stays up tomorrow you mos tlikely have not O'd yet. BD tonight or as soon as you can to cover your bases just in case

mizlarner - sorry your temp dropped :(

[MizLarner]

All my wishful thinking...

TM please move me to waiting to O.

[akacharlotte]

I'm so sorry MizLarner! :( Your chart looked so good when I checked it this morning.

[katiems118]

Please move me to testing 12/30 DH was really disappointed that last cycle didnt work, so for the first time in 18 cycles he has not been "too tired". He is not a morning person AT ALL, (normally its all PM BDing) but he said, he had hoped we would have had a child by now and be working on the 2nd one...so its time to make this happen, even if it means less sleep for a day or so!

Miz-Sorry that AF showed.

Mindy- I think you still have a shot if you BD tonight! :) Tomorrow's temp will surely tell.

[ABirney]

Hi ladies!
Just checking in quick before work.
Sorry to those AF found and good luck to those O'ing or testing soon!
Still hanging out here. My temp has been exactly the same for the past 4 days... weird.

[dancn226]

Yeah I am so excited because I have an RE appointment scheduled for 1/8/08. This nwe year is going to be a good new year!!!!

[dancn226]

And to make matters even better, my ins. company says once i get past the 500$ out of pocket, they will pay 100%. How awesome is that, and if we have to move to IVF, they give us 4 atttemps! I think its good, but I could be wrong?

[tunibell]

Temp was down for second time this morning AND below the coverline. I officially have no clue what is going on.

[katiems118]

Dancn- THAT IS GREAT NEWS!!!!!!! SO EXCITED FOR YOU

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[kemaji]

MizLarner, I'm so sorry...I had such high hopes for you this cycle.

ABirney, stable temps are a good thing! I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you, I really hope this is it!


I'm still in the boring part...EW is already starting to show so it's time for the BD part of the cycle.

[t3h_wookiee]

Holy crap Dancn, that's amazing coverage!! I'm jealous.

[dancn226]

Well my DH is a lieutenant on a FD that is only covered by contract, so they also pay for his benifits. So that pretty much rocks. However, next month he is going for a promotion and I dont' think the benifits will be nearly as good, because he would be on the FD as an employee instead of contract! WERID!!!

[MizLarner]

My temp has been exactly the same for the past 4 days... weird.

I've read that means your thermometer battery is dying :(

[mindy2137]

I'm hoping I'm not out yet, I feel wet down there! Yeah!!! That's kind of a gross thing to be excited about, but whatever! I'll be back.

[Annette]

dancn-thats great news about the insurance coverage!

abirney-I'm crossing my fingers for you. When do you test?

Mizlarner-sorry about AF.

Good luck to those testing soon!

me: I'm going to test tomorrow if my temp is still high. Cross your fingers for me please!

[JennZ]

Good luck, Annette!!!

And ABirney, you're also testing soon, right? Good luck!!!

Dancn- That is amazing coverage! You are really fortunate!

Sorry Mizlarner!

I wonder if APhiJill has good news for us yet?

Tuni,
What is going on with your temps? Are you still nursing? Do you think today is way too early for an implantation dip?

Mindy,
Have fun with DH tonight!!

[Julss05]

Hello :) AF just passed so waiting to O. Like Dancin taking a break and just trying to have fun with it. Feel more relaxed this month. A friend of mine is doing her first IVF on Monday. I'm so excited for her. I should be ovulating end of next week or early the following week so I'm thinking if I get PG this cycle her and I could have close due dates!

katiems118 Hope it works for you! We are also bding in the mornings now as DH works 24 hr shifts. Not that easy to do when you're still half asleep but gets the job done!

Dancn That is excellent! Good luck at your appt.! My insurance will cover all IF testing but not the actual treatments/procedures. Friend has same insurance coverage I do and had to take out an extended home equity loan to pay for their IVF.

Sorry to those who AF found:(
Good luck to those testing!

[tunibell]

Tuni,
What is going on with your temps? Are you still nursing? Do you think today is way too early for an implantation dip?

I am and I do, unfortunately.

I think I'm going to have to wean my DD in order to get pregnant again, and it truly breaks my heart. She loves to nurse. I'm going to keep nursing her until she's 2 (in March), but then I think we'll have to wean.

:(

[Taylandra]

Too tired for SO's tonight (and I've waited too long to try and catch up...sorry!) d/t our resident/family Christmas dinner at work tonight. I didn't get home until half an hour ago! :eek: Our BIL is over playing games with DH and I'm impatiently waiting for them to finish up so we can BD. I know it's a little early, but I was too tired last night and I really want to get started tonight!

Anyhow, sorry to all those AF found and good luck to those testing soon!

[ABirney]

dancn Yay for an RE appt and Wow for awesome coverage! I'm jealous!
tunibell Hope you figure out what's going on soon!
kemaji Hope you catch your egg!
mindy Glad there's still a chance!
Annette Crossing everything for you tomorrow! Good luck!
Julss Hope the relaxing route does the trick!
taylandra Hope you catch your egg!

Well I checked my therm tonight to test the battery and got a completely different temp, so hopefully that's not the prob. I don't know if the progesterone supps are making my hormones more level or something, or a journal buddy said her pg chart was flat. So we'll see.
The dr told me on IUI day to test in 2 weeks, which is Tuesday. But I would like to wait until Wednesday because I have the day off and won't have to rush to work, so I'll be able to deal with whatever the results are. Hopefully waiting 1 extra day won't matter, the RE said if I was pg he was going to increase my progesterone dose.

[melandtim]

ABirney - what kind of progesterone are you on? Do you have any side effects? I am taking the suppositories and they sem to be causing major cramping. Have my fingers crossed for you.

dancn - great news!

mizlarner - sorry AF showed :(

Annette - good luck today!

[Annette]

Darn! Looks like a BFN for me today :( . I even took the test apart and held it up to a bright LED light and nothing. Oh, well. It ain't over till AF rears her ugly head. I'll definitely test tomorrow if temp is still up.

[heather1029]

It looks like AF is coming for me.:mad: I guess I Oed on CD18 after all. Please move me to Waiting to O.

Onto month #5.

I had a dream this morning that I had four little blond-headed boys. One of them was writing a song for his dog that had just died, and I went in to hug him because it was so sweet, and I was bawling my eyes out. Well, I woke up and I was actually crying. Then I continued to cry because I don't have four little boys. I don't even have one. :(

[oceanblue]

AF showed here. Please move me back to waiting to O.

I am so sorry I've been MIA from these parts. We finally got our new computer hooked up and it is SOOOOO much better, but now my GMIL is here from FL (with GFIL) for open heart surgery. She goes in the day after Christmas and has the surgery on the 28th. Life has been very hectic here with trying to get Christmas shopping done and them wanting to spend time with our DS (their only great grandchild). I haven't had many moments to myself this past week. Ugh. I've been trying to read along and keep up with everyone when I get a chance, and hopefully things will slow down a little bit here so I can really catch up properly :o

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[Kopper]

TM - Can you please move me to Taking a Break/TTA? I finally have my answer.

Thanks everyone for the support.

[sea74]

Kopper: I'm so sorry :( HUGS!!!!!

[katiems118]

Mel- Your temps are really high! Hope this means good things!

[MMHinCA]

I have a weird question that may have a little TMI...

DH and I BD'd last night (CD21, 7/9DPO) and when we were done there was blood (as if AF had started). My usual cycles are 28 days (the shortest being 24 days) so I was very confused why I would be bleeding. I put in a tampon thinking AF had started early but this morning there was no blood. I am so confused??? :confused:

[MizLarner]

Some things came up yesterday; DH and I talked about them and we are going to take a break for a while.

[katiems118]

MMH- Perhaps its implantation bleeding, the timing is about right.

[MMHinCA]

katiems118 - if our BD timing was better i would have thought so but there is a slim to no chance that we conceived.

[Kopper]

I have a weird question that may have a little TMI...

DH and I BD'd last night (CD21, 7/9DPO) and when we were done there was blood (as if AF had started). My usual cycles are 28 days (the shortest being 24 days) so I was very confused why I would be bleeding. I put in a tampon thinking AF had started early but this morning there was no blood. I am so confused??? :confused:

MMH - The same thing happened to me 2 days ago (spotting after DTD). I didn't have any more spotting until 24 hours later. This morning AF is here. I'm coming off a weird cycle though and possibly a chem pg so I have no idea what is normal for me.

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[sea74]

MMH - Your cervix is very tender and can be irritated very easily after ovulation. I'm sure the bleeding is related to DTD but it's harmless because it's coming from the cervix and not from the uterus if that makes sense.

since April my DH will not DTD during the 2ww anymore because he's worked up about the bleeding. Every time we did it after O'ed I would bleed so no more sex during that time. What stinks is that I still bleeding after ovulation but mine is not related to sex :rolleyes:

[JennZ]

Okay, I know this is going to sound so random, but I had a very vivid dream that I checked this board and there was a huge announcement of a BFP! It had baby dust moving around and everything! :)
I'm not sure if I should say who it was or not, but it was someone testing soon.
I usually don't even remember my dreams, so this was really odd for me!!

Kopper,
I'm sorry it didn't work out this month.
Are you in North Texas?

[ABirney]

Hi ladies!
mel I'm on the 25mg suppositories. There isn't a brand, the pharmacy my RE uses compounds it right there. I'm not having any side effects. Hope the cramping goes away and still crossing my fingers for you too!
Annette Sorry about the BFN. Hope AF stays away!
heather Sorry AF found you. Hopefully your dream will come true someday and you'll have some little guys!
oceanblue Sorry AF found you. Good luck to your GMIL on her surgery.
kopper {HUGS} So sorry. Hope you are able to come back soon.
MMH Hope it was just implant, or maybe just irritation from BD.
MizLarner Sorry to see you go, hope to see you back soon.
JennZ Oh, hope your dream comes true and someone on here gets a BFP soon!

I'm going to my grandparent's this evening to spend the night and my mom, grama and I are going to do all our Christmas baking over the weekend. Hmmm, how to keep my progest. supps in their fridge without my grampa finding them?? I think he'd keel over!

[katiems118]

Jenn- I think you should tell us who it was in your dream!

[JennZ]

melandtim

:D:D

[sea74]

Hope your dream comes true JennZ!!! You know, Sparkle and Shine had a dream that Steve's Sweetie got a BFP that cycle and her dream CAME TRUE!!!!!! Actually, I've been checking the Decembers boards waiting for a baby announcement from Steve' Sweetie :D

[JennZ]

and sea, did you see how cute Pelican's boys are??

[Taylandra]

Kopper- I'm sorry to hear about your possible chemical pregnancy :(...Best wishes during your TTA/break!

MizLarner- I'm also sorry to see you go. You'll be in my thoughts!

Sorry to those ladies (a whole group all at once!) that AF found. :(:(

I'm in a *foul* mood today. I'll be lucky if I am even in the mood to let DH touch me, let alone BD. And we haven't BD yet this cycle. *sigh* I think I need some sugar to feel better!

[sea74]

and sea, did you see how cute Pelican's boys are??

YES.I.DID! So stink'n cute. However, I did really think they'd be girls based on her BD :) But YAY for three perfect boys!

[kemaji]

Kopper, I'm so sorry that things worked out the way they did.

MizLarner, I'm sorry to see you go as well, I hope you and your DH can figure things out.

[Annette]

kopper-I'm so sorry. I understand how you're feeling. Sending you {{{hugs}}}

mizlarner-Sorry to see you go. Keep us posted!

jennz-I hope your predictions are right!

abirney-your chart looks really nice!

Sorry to those AF found

Steve's sweetie hasn't had her baby yet? I hope he or she makes an appearance soon.

Pelican's boys are so cute. She made national news too!

me: I hope I get a BFP tomorrow.

[Annette]

I tested this AM and Jennz was right!
I got the faintest line. It took a little while to show up so I hope its real. I hope this one sticks this time.

[akacharlotte]

Congrats Annette! Lots and lots of sticky vibes headed your way!!!!

[Sue]

Congrats Annette!! I got my BFP at 12 dpo too, and it was really light :)

**sticky vibes**

[mpc863]

yay!!!!! congratulations Annette! I am so happy for you. sending you lots of sticky vibes!

[sea74]

Annette: YIPPIE :D I'm thrilled for you! I'm praying this one is sticker than crazy glue :D Your OB is going to put you on progesterone right? Was that the plan, I don't remember!!!! I kept watching your chart every day and I had a feeling the BFN would turn into BFP!!!!

Good luck to everyone else!!!!!!

[Annette]

Thanks everyone!! I hope its a super sticky too. I go to the doc on Monday for bloodwork.

[katiems118]

Congrats Annette!!!! Ok, we need some more to finish off the year!!! :)

[Loud_curly]

YAY Annette!!! I've got my fingers so tightly crossed for this sticky one!!!

[JillyBean]

Congrats Annette!!

[chi]

Congratulations Annette!! I am SO thrilled with you!! Wishing you lots of sticky vibes! Can't wait for an update.

[mindy2137]

Here's my chart. I don't think I've Oed. I haven't put in CM for today. I had a low temp this am but took it about 1 hour earlier than normal.

[JennZ]

Hooray, Annette!!!
I'm beyond thrilled for you!!!!

[Taylandra]

Congrats, Annette!!! I'm sending sticky vibes your way! :D