December TTC w/ Charting- Hoping for a special Holiday present.

[CLW4KU]

Congrats Annette!

[HunBun]

Big congrats, Annette!! :D

[ABirney]

Hey everyone!
Annette Congrats!! Sending lots of sticky vibes your way!
Jenn Hope your dream comes true! I haven't had any dreams yet but just a generalized good feeling about mel the past few days also!
taylandra Hope you are feeling better soon!

My temp jumped this morning, but I spent the night and my grandparent's house and didn't sleep well (darn grandfather clock next to me with a chime every 15 minutes! :mad:) and it was warm in there. We'll see what tomorrow looks like now that I'm back home.

TM, could you please change the chart link for my info on the front page to my FF one? I no longer use the Ovusoft. Thanks!
http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/810d1

[Annette]

Thanks everyone! It doesn't feel real yet. I will definitely keep ya'll posted.

abirney-When does your test fest begin? Your chart looks really pretty. I hope you get your BFP too!

[JLRenheos]

annette Congratulations!! What a blessing! :D sending sticky vibes your way!...

mel I hope THIS is it! ;)

Birney I hope you get that Bfp! ;) it's looking good.

[heather1029]

Congratulations Annette!

I would be SO pumped to see ABirney and Mel get BFPs too! I want this place to just start bursting at the seams with BFPs!!!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to Here.

Annette- Congrats! Happy and Healthy 9 months to you. I moved you to waiting to graduate. Let us know when you are ready to officially graduate!

[mindy2137]

Congratulations Annette
Good luck ABirney and Mel

Hope everyone else is doing good. I almost posted the other day and said I'm out for December, because I was sure we missed it. But, I started to get some really creamy and watery CM and yesterday it was EWCM!!!! We bd'ed in the morning and my temp spiked today. I just know I O'ed yesterday. Hopefully, it will be a BFP! That would be so awesome. Because I'm almost positive I O'ed yesterday, Christmas day would be 10 DPO!!!! Oh my gosh, that would be so cool if I got a BFP on christmas day. But I'm going to try and not get my hopes up because we only BD on yesterday morning and who knows if that's enough? The other days were just sticky days, not fertile CM. So, only time will tell.

Please move me to 2ww, I think I O'ed

[ABirney]

Well when we did our shopping today I picked up a 2-pack of tests so I could test Tuesday. On a whim I took one this afternoon when we got home. There were 2 lines!!! I'll retest in the morning to be sure.

[Julss05]

Congrats Annette AND ABirney! Let's bring on the BFPs!!!:)

[heather1029]

Whoah, congratulations Abirney!!!! Whoohoo! Merry Christmas:D

[sea74]

ABirney! Said it in SAI, but YAY!!!! This has been one hell of a weekend in here!!!! Sending you tons of sticky vibes and H&H 9 months and beyond :D :D :D

[dancn226]

~ABirney~CONGRATS....YOU INSPIRE ME TO GO TO A RE!!!! I HOPE THINGS ARE NICE AND STICKY FOR YOU, AND THAT WITH IN THE NEXT FEW MONTH, I FOLLOW YOUR LEAD!!!!

~Annette~Congrats, I hope this sticks for you. Keep us posted on your progress. I am praying on this one for you!!!

Nothing new here at all with me. Just hanging out after the big 10 inches of snow we got yesterday. I have no idea what cd i am on. I have no idea if I o'd or not. Basically my feelings now are that after a year in 4 months, we are going to need assistance, so I am not going to put much hope in anything!!!

[Jill1228]

Annette and ABirney, Congrats! Sending SBVs your way

[Jill1228]

Hey y'all! I am in Miami right now and just got off the cruise. I head home tomorrow. Had little or no net access

can you move me to waiting to O

[MMHinCA]

random question...

what do you consider spotting vs. light flow? i am trying to figure out if today should be spotting or CD1. :confused:

[katiems118]

yeah Abirney!!!!!! So happy for you!!!!!

I think of spotting as not bright red, sorta pinkish with some CM in it, and light flow as definatly red. Hope that makes sense

[chi]

ABirney-SOOOOO happy for you! Congratulations!!! Wishing you SBV and H&H 9 months!!!

[sea74]

random question...

what do you consider spotting vs. light flow? i am trying to figure out if today should be spotting or CD1. :confused:

For *me* spotting is usually dark, dark sticky "flow" or light red/pinkish when I wipe or a little bit of the red/pinkish w/CM or it's watery.

[Goddess Tiff]

Congrats to the BFPs!!

My chart is all wacky. It calls that I O'd but my temps are crazy and I'm not so sure. I guess we'll see.

[Annette]

Abirney-Congrats! I knew you were going to get a BFP!

[Taylandra]

ABirney- Hurray, hurray, HURRAY!!! Sticky vibes to you and a Happy & Healthy 9 months!

This must be good luck baby dust for us-two BFPs in the same weekend! Here's to more of us getting Christmastime BFPs!

[Taylandra]

Forgot to add to MMH's question:

The pre- and early pregnancy study I'm participating in considers spotting to be when you don't need any type of pad or tampon, basically when you only notice red/pink discharge/bleeding when you wipe in the bathroom. So that's what I go by. I usually have a panty liner on, but that's just for my peace of mind, not because I need it at that time.

Hope that helps!

[HunBun]

Oh wow, congratulations, Abirney! How wonderful!!

This thread is so exciting these days. :D I'm kind of excited myself, because I got a peak reading on the CBEFM and a couple of positive OPKs (I'm using both methods since I had some OPKs left over and this is my first month using the CBEFM, so I wasn't sure how accurate it would be- obsessive, I know). So, lots of fun for the husband and me this weekend! ;)

[melandtim]

OMG what an amazing weekend this has been!!!

Annette - I am so so thrilled for you. I am sending you as many sticky vibes as I possibly can. You deserve this :)

ABirney - I am so thrilled for you as well!!!

I have been so down this weekend and you guys have inspired me to keep going!!

Jenn - I so hope your dream comes true. I have had dreams over the past 2 years that I got a BFP at Christmas time.

Kopper - I am so sorry :(

did you see how cute Pelican's boys are??

They are adorable. Its funny when I saw the news story about the triplets and quads being born I said hmm I wonder if that was Pelican!

Katie - I am on progesterone and that can make your temps be really high so I am trying not to read anything into it

I am sorry to those that AF found :(

I'm just hanging out here at 7DPIUI

[ABirney]

Thanks for all the congrats everyone but please send me some sticky vibes!! I think I'm having a chemical pg. :( I retested this morning and the line is very faint, and my lower abdomen is feels a bit bloated and tender. I'm going to call the RE and see what he wants me to do.

[dancn226]

ABirney~I am praying for you! I really hope those are just some PG symptoms your experiencing!!!

[mindy2137]

Abirney Gosh, I hope not. Keeping my fingers crossed for you
MMH I too consider spotting to be dark, dark brown thick discharge or light pink twingsh mixed with cm. When I start AF, I start - heavy, red blood flow. Hope that helps!

My chart is looking good. I definiately O'ed on Saturday, so we'll see. I'm not totally confident because we only BD'ed on Saturday, the other days were dry. I thought we were out, so we didn't go on the other creamy or wet days. But EWCM on Saturday and we BD'ed. Time will tell...wouldn't it be awesome to get a BFP for christmas???
Here's my chart
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/186913

[melandtim]

no no no ABirney - I am sending you sticky vibes.

[sea74]

ABirney: Stick, baby, stick! Praying for you!!!!!

[JennZ]

ABirney,
I hope everything is okay!! Sending sticky, sticky vibes!!

[akacharlotte]

ABirney-I hope everything is ok! STICKY, STICKY, STICKY vibes for you!!!!!

[Goddess Tiff]

Abirney - praying for you!! Tons of sticky vibes coming your way!!!


Well, my temp is back UP again. I seriously don't know what's up with this chart. I guess we'll go with the O, so TM please move me to waiting to test 12/24.

A Christmas Eve BFP would be so lovely, no?

I broke my leg this weekend, so I'll be here thinking about testing, lol. I really don't think I am PG. The cycle is so weird. But who knows. At least it's way too much work to get to the bathroom, so I won't be wanting to POAS 18 times a day.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here.

Sending sticky vibes to you, ABirney! I hope this is it!

[kemaji]

Congrats Annette!!!!!

ABirney, I hope everything is okay...I'm sending tons of sticky vibes your way!

[JLRenheos]

Birney I missed your post, but wanted to say Congratulations!!
I'll be thinking of you & sending good thoughts & sticky vibes your way. Keep us updated.

[kanga1622]

Congrats Annette!

ABirney - Congrats! I hope the RE has reassuring news for you.

[Annette]

Abirney-Are you going to the RE for a blood draw? They should take an initial draw and then another 2 days later. Sending you lots of sticky vibes.

Tiff-I hope your leg heals quickly. How did you break it?

hunbun-hope you caught that egg!

me: Got my blood drawn today. I'm 14dpo and my #'s were 21.4 for progesterone (yay!) and 141 for the HCG. I go back wed for another test. I hope my numbers double. Please send me more sticky vibes!
Gotta run, dinner's on.

[Kopper]

Wow!! Congrats Abirney, Annette & Sue!! This thread is hoping! :)

Tiff - So sorry about your leg. :( Was it a bad break? Hope you heal quickly.

Thanks everyone for the continued support. I am ok with everything and doing fine. The bleeding sucks and is still super heavy but I think slowing down. I've never had it this bad before.

Well I have my fingers crossed for everyone in the 2WW! Hopefully we will get several more BFPs in here to close out the year. Good luck!!

[sea74]

Ouch! Tiff! Hope the leg heals soon.

ABirney: Any new news? Been thinking of you all day.

Annette: Great #s!!!!!! :D

kopper: HUGS!

[ABirney]

Hey there ladies!
mindy Hope Saturday did the trick!
tiff Ouch on the leg!! Wishing you a speedy recovery! Hope you caught your egg too.
Annette Yay for great numbers! Sending sticky vibes your way but looking great so far!
kopper So sorry again for your loss, and that the bleeding is bad.

dancn, mindy, mel, sea, jenn, aka, tiff, kemaji, JLR, kanga, annette, kopper, julss, heather, jill, katie, chi, taylandra, hunbun, and anyone else I may have missed... THANK YOU SO MUCH for all the well wishes and sticky vibes!!
I called the RE today and they sent me in for a beta and progesterone level. The beta was 41.1, which is positive. She said they like to see a 14DPO beta of 50, but I'm only 13DPO so she said that's why it's a little low. They'll have the progesterone level tomorrow, and send me some double-strenght supps if needed. I go in Wednesday for a repeat beta.
So I'm feeling a bit better about things but don't think I'll rest easy until I get Wednesday's results.

[JennZ]

ABirney,
I'm so happy to hear your news! I was just stopping by to check and see if you had posted an update.
I'm glad you got good results, and I'll continue to pray the numbers keep going up!!

[katiems118]

ABirney, thats such good news!!! :) (Secretly, or not to secretly hoping to join you in a BFP celebration)

[sea74]

ABirney: :D :D :D :D Can't wait to hear your good report on Wednesday!!!!

[polkadot]

ABirney....coming out of lurkdom...to wish you lots of sticky vibes....Eli is drooling on the keyboard for goodluck too....;)

Congrats!!!

[JillyBean]

Congrats ABirney! Sending sticky vibes!

[akacharlotte]

Abirney-That is great news thus far! I hope the positive news keep on coming for you.

[mpc863]

ABirney, congratulations! sending you lots of positive and sticky vibes!

[HunBun]

Annette and Abirney, I hope you both continue to see good numbers! Send good thoughts and sticky vibes to you both.

Tiff, I hope your leg heals up soon! Yikes!

[Goddess Tiff]

Thanks to everyone! I fell on ice Saturday. Stupid winter. It was not too bad of a break, so it is my hope it will heal well and somewhat quickly. Meanwhile I will be on the couch here.

[kemaji]

Tiff -- I'm so sorry that you fell...hopefully your leg heals quickly.

ABirney -- I'm keeping my fingers crossed! So far, so good!

[melandtim]

Annette - that sounds great! Stick baby stick!

ABirney - sounds like really good news!!!

Tiff - hope you recover quickly!

[mindy2137]

Annette Stick baby stick
ABirney I'm excited...keeping my fingers crossed!
Tiff Be careful on the ice girlfriend!

My temps went up again today and FF confirmed my O for Saturday. So, I'm 3 dpo!!!! We'll see!
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/186913

[missy329]

Annette and ABirney- Congrats!! I am so happy for both of you! Happy and Healthy 9 months to you both!!

Looks like I am 4DPO. I plan on testing on December 26th (but I may break down and test on Christmas- I will be 11DPO. Depends on how the 2WW goes and how hopefull I am by then! :rolleyes:)

[Loud_curly]

Congrats Abirney - stick baby stick!!! How exciting to see some BFPs in this thread - keep 'em coming ladies!!!

[Wen]

Annette and ABirney Congrats !!! Very happy for you both.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to Here.

[sea74]

missy: Hoping your get an extra special Christmas gift :D

[DelSol]

Coming out of lurkdom....

Congratulations Annette& ABirney!!!! Wish you lots of sticky vibes!!!! I'm very happy for the both you.

[mpc863]

hi!

there is so much good news in here lately! makes me happy :)

threadmistress, can you please move me to "think i've o'ed, testing 12/23-12/26?

I am 8DPO. I'm going to try and hold out to test on Christmas. I hope I can make it that long!

[JLRenheos]

missy I'd love to see you follow in Annette's & Birney's footstepts & get a Bfp this month! Good luck testing! Fingers are crossed. ;)

[Annette]

Thanks everyone!

I see some nice charts out there!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here.

[Taylandra]

ABirney- I'll keep those sticky baby thoughts coming your way!

Tiff- Sorry to hear about your leg...Feel better soon!

I'll be crossing my fingers for all you ladies who O'd! Hopefully I'll be joining that group before the end of the week. I'm off to find myself a snack before watching some tv and decorating some cookies!

[mkvh]

DELURKING...

ABirney, cautious congrats!!!! :D Many sticky thoughts coming your way.

[akacharlotte]

I saw my new OB/GYN today and she was great. She took a blood sample to check my progesterone, thyroid and a few other items. Even though I'm not charting we decided to check my progesterone, assuming I O'd approximately 7 days ago. If we are not successful this month we'll start Clomid and DH will have an SA. At that point we'll decide the next step and she mentioned IUI if needed.

I'm glad I switched doctors. She seems much more proactive than my previous dr. and I got a great vibe from the office and staff.

[Goddess Tiff]

That's great, Stacey, I'm glad you are getting somewhere!


I am unsure about my chart and how crazy it looks. It's so up and down, despite my meticualously consistent temping, that I'm wondering if I really even O'd. I went to the dr a couple weeks ago and saw someone else because mine was on leave. He thinks I may have PCOS, as she does, but that right now he's just sure I'm oligovulatory, meaning I don't always O. He said my chart from last cycle was great and he's sure I O'd with that one. So I don't know if I have O'd this time, regardless of FF calling it, because the temps are so crazy.

[ABirney]

Hi ladies!
Mindi, missy, and mpc Hope you caught your eggs!
aka Glad you had a good appt with the new dr.
tiff Not sure what to make of your chart either, but hope you figure out what's going on soon.

Thanks again everyone for the well wishes! (and baby Eli for the good-luck drool! ;)) You gals are ALL so awesome and I am thankful for all the support you are giving me! :D
I got my progesterone results today... 20.6, they like it to be over 15. So looking good there. I have my repeat beta tomorrow.
I got a nice surprise in the mail today... my insurance sent me refund checks for my injectables!! So there's an extra $1200 I wasn't expecting. :D

[mpc863]

that is great news all around abirney!

[melandtim]

ABirney - fantastic news!!

aka - I am so glad the appointment went well. Makes a big difference when you have a proactive doctor :)

I'm 9 DPIUI and having really severe cramping and back pain so I know I am out yet again. Just have to wait till Monday when I can stop the progesterone and get AF going.

[Annette]

Abirney-Yay for good progesterone! Yay on the refund too! Here's hoping we both get good repeat betas today.

mel-I wouldn't count yourself out yet till AF shows. I hope she doesn't.

Tiff-Can you get a progesterone test to see if you O'd? Wouldn't it be great if there was an OTC progesterone test to check ovulation?

aka-yay for your doctor being proactive. I hope you get answers soon.

[missy329]

Good morning everyone.

Melandtim- You are not out yet. I know it is hard to keep the hope month after month. I so hope this is your month!

ABirney- Hooray for the good results and for the refund!

Goddess Tiff- I do see an overall shift in temps. Hopefully the next few days will make it clearer.

Aka- Sounds like your new OB/GYN is great! Glad you are happy with the switch.

I called my RE to see about my progesterone results from last month. I knew that they had never called me- but I figured "no news is good news". Well, I guess to get results you have to call a 1-800 number, put in their code, and my SS#. No one had ever explained all that to me so I was just waiting for someone to call me. All my other test results were given to me in person at appointments for other things. Anyway, the test was done on 8DPO and the progesterone level was 8. They said they want at least 15. They said the Dr will discuss it with me at my follow-up appt (which I haven't made yet). The thing that bugs me is that the results were in the system on Nov 28 and I didn't know it. I feel like this cycle is doomed now because of the low progesterone. I did go out and buy progesterone cream yesterday and am holding out hope that it might help? :confused: I guess I will see in about a week.

[mindy2137]

Good morning girls! Hope everyone is doing fantastic!

Good luck EVERYONE!!!! It really sounds like everyone is doing great.

melandtim Don't count yourself out!

Tiff Maybe in a few days your chart will be more clear.

My temp stayed up this morning, so far so good. But I'm only 4 dpo. 10 more to go!!!
Here's my chart
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/186913

[sea74]

Annette & ABriny: Can't wait for you girls to update about your tests today! Praying those numbers continue to climb :D

missy: I just scanned your charts. Your LP is a tad bit on the short side, but it doesn't seem like you spot before AF comes so maybe the low progesterone isn't as big of a concern? I'm not trying to down play it AT ALL but just give you some hope. I'm still rooting for you to pull a BFP out of your stocking on Christmas :)

Hello to everyone!!!!! rooting for you all!!!!!!!!

[katiems118]

sea- You should be Oing soon right? Hope you pull out a BFP in the new year!!!!

[dancn226]

ABirney~So glad to here that things are better than you though!!

Annette~Congrats again

Mel~I hope you are wrong and you feel the way you do because you are pg!! I am crosing my fingers for you!

Anyhow, nothing new here with me. DH and I still have yet to start our shopping. So we are pretty much screwed we will be doing it every day of the weekend. Ahhh, so annoying. Anyhow, I called my OB to see what I need to do to send my records to the RE, adn it costs freakin 25 dollars to have them send that over there! What is that about. Next time I say its for myself. Whatever......So our RE appt is Jan 8th. I figure wiht the holidays coming up I am goign to blink my eyes and it will be here! I culdnt' tell you what cd I am on adn I dont' even knwo if I o'd! So we are just totally having fun this month!!!

[sea74]

Katie: I'm thinking I'll O sometime between Friday and Sunday. Seems to be a little "later" than my normal so I'm hoping that means the egg(s) are maturing more!!!
How's your 2ww going?

dancn: I'll also be doing shopping this weekend. More for DH's side as he's ALWAYS last minute :rolleyes:
And yeah, that's crap about the $25 for records. My GYN sent them for free to my RE and when I got copies from my RE last time I was there (still thinking about a second opinion) they were also free.

[melandtim]

dancn - I can't believe they are charging you that to copy some records! Outrageous! Your appointment will be here in no time!

missy - I'm sorry your doctor's office didn't call you with your results. That really sucks :(

[HunBun]

Abirney - YAY for the good results and for that awesome refund! That is super good news.

melandtim - I'm still hoping for you.

missy - I'm so sorry to hear about the miscommunication with the doctor's office! I hate that it can be so difficult to get the information you really need. I hope you'll be able to stay positive about this cycle in spite of your worries.

mindy - Isn't it nice to see those temps stay up? Here's hoping the 2ww goes by quickly for you and brings you good news!

dancn - Uggggh, Christmas shopping, don't remind me! LOL!

[katiems118]

dancn- my doc charges you if you say you want them, but its free to send to another doctor...Oh Im excited for your appt :)

sea- My 2ww is going great actually, its a lot faster than I remember last month's being. My temps are stable..hoping that means something....I may sneak and test on Sat which would be 9dpo, I have a bunch of internet cheapies, so why not!

Im not too worried about getting a BFN for Xmas, because seriously Ive seen a BFN every month for the last 17 cycles, so yeah I would be disappointed but I dont know any better you know? (At least thats how Im coping at the moment)

[jellybeany]

Good Luck to everyone!

I'm not sure what's up. Either I didn't O or I O'd later than I thought. FF says I'm on 19 dpo - I got a BFN this morning and still no sign of AF. I guess there coud be a possibility that I O'd on CD 28 (instead of 20) so that would make me 11 dpo. If cd 28 was the magic day then we have little to no shot with our timing so I'm patiently waiting to move on to my next cycle. :(

[Annette]

I'm back with results. Today's betas were 334. So looks like I'm on track. I think I will stick around until I get an u/s. Thanks for the good thoughts.

[raven077]

Yay! SO good to pop by here and see more BFP's! Congrats and über-sticky vibes to Annette and ABirney! :D

[Taylandra]

ABirney & Annette- Hurray for good numbers!

Dancn- A friend of mine was also charged $25 for her chart. Actually, it was $25 and then .20 for each page after 20 pages (or something strange like that). Some states allow for dr's to do that, as silly as it is. Sorry that happened to you too. :(

To those in the 2ww- Good luck!!! I'm crossing all crossables!

Mel- I hope that you aren't out this month. Like someone else said, it's not over until you see AF!

Sea- Good to see you! I'll keep those maturing eggs in my thoughts!

My temperature has been *much* lower the past few days. I think it has to do with the temperature in the apartment, even though I use the same amount of blankets and I feel warm. I guess there's not a whole lot I can do about that though. Hopefully it doesn't mess up an O interpretation (hurry up, O!). Still waiting here...

[ABirney]

Just popping in with my beta numbers... it went from 41.1 on Monday to 114 today! Yay! I go back to the RE on Jan 2 for an u/s. I'll wait to officially graduate until then. Thanks everyone again for the continued well wishes!

[kemaji]

Congratulations to ABirney and Annette!!!! I'm so thrilled for both of you! Here's to having sticky pregnancies!

[sea74]

Super huge congrats on those numbers Annette & AB!!!!!! :D

[Sue]

Hey everyone :) Just trudging along here... I missed my first app't because of a storm, so now I have to wait till 1/2!

I hope we see a lot more BFP's this month!! Good luck everyone!

[Annette]

abirney-Thats awesome news!

jelly-sorry about the BFN.

dancn-yay for having fun. Can you get the RE to call your OB directly and maybe the file transfer will be free? Wouldn't they send your records over anyway?

Thanks all for the continued support. It helps a lot.

[melandtim]

Annette and ABirney - great news for you both! Congrats!!

jellybeany - sorry about the BFN :(

[JennZ]

Congrats ABirney and Annette! Great numbers, ladies! I'm so happy for you both!!!

melandtim,
I'm super-hopeful for you this month!! Testing soon?

[melandtim]

Thanks Jenn! I'm not so hopeful due to my major cramps but if my temps stays up through Sunday I may test then but I go on Monday for a blood draw so I'll know one way or another then

[mindy2137]

Everyone is looking good!
Melandtime Hang in there girl, you never know!!!
jellybean Sorry for the BFN!

I'm 5 dpo, time will tell, temps are up!

[chi]

Sorry I have been so MIA! Last month was pretty tough on me and I just needed to take a little break. I have been checking in...just not feeling up to posting.

Congrats to Annette and ABirney for terrific numbers!! Wishing you lots of sticky vibes and a very happy and healthy nine months!!

Work has been insane. :mad: And today (CD 9) was the first day I temped this cycle. I have been using my FM, so I can't say that I haven't been totally paying attention, just a little less obsessed, but I think it is because I feel defeated. I feel like so much in my life (like looking for a new, not so insane job as mentioned above) are on hold till I am able to get PG. Ahhh!!! I'm a total planner, so this is really hard for me.

Wishing all those who are testing in the next few weeks lots of luck!!! A wishing for lots of BFPs this month!

[katiems118]

mpc- Your chart looks really good, I like the upward trend, when are you testing?

ABirney and Annette- Yeah for great betas!!!!

[mpc863]

katie, i had a little too much wine at our team holiday dinner last night which i'm sure contributed to my high temp this morning. i am going to try and hold out until Sunday, which is 13DPO.

[akacharlotte]

My CD23 progesterone is 1.9. I'm starting Clomid next cycle, going in for CD21 bloodwork. I'll definitely need supplements for progesterone.

[Julss05]

chi I feel you on the work situation! Definitely will be looking for something else starting in January. It's a tie between that and crazy insane drivers doing last minute Christmas shopping.

I'm pretty sure O is just around the corner, had EWCM yesterday and today with O pains. We are trying to get as much bding in as we can:).

Good luck to those testing soon!

[HunBun]

TM, please move me to think I O'ed - testing 12/30-1/5 Thank you! :) I'm 3dpo today.

chi - I totally empathize with being a planner... TTC has been hard on me too, for that reason.

Julss05 - Hope you catch that egg!

[Gia]

Congrats Annette and ABirney!

I don't know what's going on with me. FF gave me crosshairs on the 14th, but I am not really convinced. I've had hardly any CM (much less than usual) and I never got a positive OPK. I am super stressed right now b/c I own my own business and this is our busy time so I am thinking maybe I am having a delayed O due to that. I just can't wait until the 26th- I leave for vacation and then I can relax!:)
Anyway, here is a link to my chart:
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/42e5f

The open circles were all mornings where I temped 1 hr earlier except CD16- that was 40 min. late.

[melandtim]

I want to wish everyone a wonderful Christmas! Maythe New Year bring us the BFPs we all deserve!

[JennZ]

Mel,
Your chart is looking very promising today!
Merry Christmas and I hope you get your BFP!! :)


Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all you wonderful ladies! Thanks for going through this journey with me. Here's to a wonderful 2008, and I hope we are all holding our sweet little ones this time next year!! :D:D

[kemaji]

Well, I'm confident that I O'd and I'm probably around 4DPO right now. I'll probably be testing the 30th or 31st.

Gia -- It's hard to say, but your temps seem awfully low to be post-O temps for you, especially compared to your last chart. Also, ideally, your coverline would be close to the same month to month. That doesn't usually change by .3 from one month to the next. Also, what do the open circles mean (ie, did you test early or late)?

HunBun -- I hope you caught the egg!

akacharlotte -- At least you're getting some answers and have a plan of attack.

Good luck to everyone who is in the 2WW!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here.

[mindy2137]

kemaji
"Also, ideally, your coverline would be close to the same month to month. That doesn't usually change by .3 from one month to the next"
Will you look at my chart? Here's the link
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/186913
Compared to last month, my coverline is really high. It has never been this high. It is always around 97.6 to 97.7ish. WDYT??? I'm 6 dpo and my temps are staying up. I didn't change anything, same pajama's, same temp in the room (actually I had to turn it down to 68 last night, 69 or 70 was TOO hot, that's not normal for me!). As a matter of fact, I think I this month has been my best temping month for me as in consistency and the same time. Today's temp was 1 hour early.

[heather1029]

kemaji
"Also, ideally, your coverline would be close to the same month to month. That doesn't usually change by .3 from one month to the next"
Will you look at my chart? Here's the link
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/186913
Compared to last month, my coverline is really high. It has never been this high. It is always around 97.6 to 97.7ish. WDYT??? I'm 6 dpo and my temps are staying up. I didn't change anything, same pajama's, same temp in the room (actually I had to turn it down to 68 last night, 69 or 70 was TOO hot, that's not normal for me!). As a matter of fact, I think I this month has been my best temping month for me as in consistency and the same time. Today's temp was 1 hour early.

Not kemaji, but I looked at your chart and I think that perhaps you didn't actually O until CD19 last cycle. If you changed the coverline to correspond with that O date, it would also be high like this month's.

[mindy2137]

heather1029 Thanks, after I would a sorta long lp last month (for me) I contemplated if I really O'ed when they said I did. It was just hard to tell with me missing temps. And it was hard keeping accurate temps with Thanksgiving and everything that goes with that!

[t3h_wookiee]

Congrats Abirny and Annette!!!! :D :D H&H 9 months to you both!

[NotDesperate]

Hi ladies,

Just popping in to say that I will be joining you again soon for my next cycle. This cycle I could not chart but I will be back to charting again. I am just waiting for AF so I can begin on CD1. I am on CD31 and still no AF. I don't have any cramping so I am wishing that if it is coming, it would hurry up and come already.

I don't know if I O'ed and when and if our timing was good or any of that since we just decided to SWH this month.

I haven't had any sypmtoms really to indicate I am pregnant. All I have had is being *totally* exhausted and also my stomach muscles have been very sore, which is a common symptom of CCers in the Pregnancy Symptoms thread.

So anyway, for now you can put me as 2WW since I am still waiting for AF.

Good luck to everyone else!

[oceanblue]

CONGRATS ABIRNEY AND ANNETTE!!! What great early Christmas presents. A happy and healthy 9 months to both of you!

Me-Waiting to O still here. Not much else going on though.

[mpc863]

12DPO, temp is still up but i noticed some spotting on the TP (sorry, tmi) this morning. ugh. i haven't tested yet. unless AF shows up i will probably test tomorrow morning.

[Goddess Tiff]

Sorry for the spotting, MPC. I am also 12DPO. My wacky temps have been above the coverline consistently now but not real high. Last cycle I started spotting on 12DPO, so we'll see. I haven't tested yet and I am determined to wait for Christmas Eve - unless of course I star spotting my then again.

[sea74]

Merry Christmas Everyone!

I hope the upcoming testers find BFPs in their stockings and the upcoming Oers (including myself ;) ) catch their eggies!

[NotDesperate]

MPC, I will be hoping that spotting is not AF.

Still no AF.

I didn't test today because DH bought me a box of tests last night and then this morning I had to pee so bad that I didn't want to wait until DH woke up and I didn't want to wake him. So I figured one more day of waiting wouldn't kill me.

But something else is killing me. BACK PAIN. OMG!!!!!!!! I threw my back out this morning. I have been in bed ALLL day. I just got up to see if walking helped. Im all hunched forward and to the side.

I can't even take anything. :( :( :(

[katiems118]

not desperate, take some tylenol, if you are pg, it wont hurt...stay away from ibuprofen.

[mindy2137]

Well crap, I think I have a UTI or BLADDER INFECTION!!!!! I'm bummed. I hope my high temps aren't a result of a uti or bladder infection. My temp hasn't rose above a 98.6, but that is pretty high for me. I have never had a temp that high before while charting, and I usually run a low-grade fever, but that is usually at 99.1 for sure. My chart was looking SO good, and now that I think I have one of those, I feel like my temps may be high because of that. I'm trying so hard not to read into any of my symptoms. But I have been having cramping, which is unusual for me and hot flashes. I don't know.

I have a prescription on hand of Keflex because of my reoccuring uti's and/or bladder infections, which I get about 6 times a year =) It sucks. I took a pill last night and this morning. Unfortunately, I didn't know you weren't supposed to take ibuprofen and I took two last night =( I have been drinking cranberry juice and I took some of that over the counter AZO this morning. Is all of this going to mess up my chances at a BFP? I'm only 8 dpo. Check out my chart PLEASE!
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/186913

[NotDesperate]

Katie, I took a small dose of ibuprofen in the morning! Crap! *sigh.....*

My back is still killing me. The tylenol really helped though. Dh also went to borrow my mom's heating pad. I know you are supposed to use those, but I only used it downstairs where it is freezing so my temps didn't go up and I never used it on high. It helped tremendously. She also gave DH one of those big massager things and that helped. I am still really off kilter tho, leaning to the side. I need a chiropractor badly!! Why did this have to happen the weekend before Christmas!

I took a HPT today and still BFN. I guess I will go get a blood test on Wednesday if still no AF.

[katiems118]

BFP very faint, so faint DH doesnt see it, but I do, he keep saying, isnt it supposed to be the same color as the other line, haha he thinks they work like OPK)

ahh...can this really be happening? :) cycle #18

[ABirney]

sea Crossing my fingers this cycle works for you! Hopefully the later than normal O will produce a better egg.
NotDesperate Ouch on the back! Hope you are able to get into the chiro soon. Good luck Wednesday!
mindy Sorry about the UTI. That sucks!
tiff and mpc Hope AF stays away!
mel Crossing my fingers for Monday!

[ABirney]

katie OMG!!!!! So happy for you!!!!

[Annette]

Katie-Congrats!!!! I am so happy for you!
notdesperate-hope you get that BFP soon. Hope your back is better.
mindy-bummer about the UTI. Hope you get better soon.
Sea-hope you caught that egg.
Tiff-hope a bfp is in your stocking.

[Julss05]

NotDesperate good luck testing! Hope AF stays away and your back feels better.

mindy2137 yuck UTIs and bladder infections are no fun, your chart looks promising, wouldn't give up.

katiems118 Wow CONGRATS! A line is a line:D.

Everyone testing soon, your charts look amazing! Best of luck to you all.

I'm 2 or 3DPO. We've been bding like crazy, before EWCM, during, after, feeling exhausted between that, work, and Christmas stuff. Plan to test January 2nd (dad's birthday). Not sure if I'm going back to charting next month or not? I have a really bad sore throat so hoping it is not the beginnings of a cold. We will be leaving to see in-laws for Christmas, I'll be back in the new year.

Happy Holidays! Wishing us all something extra special!;)

[mpc863]

congrats katie!!!! i am so thrilled for you.

13DPO, still slight spotting. took a test this morning, BFN. my temps are still up though. weird.

[Goddess Tiff]

Katie - aaaahhh!! I hope this is it! Congrats!!

Good luck everyone!!

Dare I hope? Despite the wackiness of my temps, it went up considerably today. It's 13DPO and I saw no spotting yet. Last cycle I spotted 12 and 13DPO and AF came on 14DPO. My temps were a lot different then too though. SO here's hoping for no spotting today and a beautiful Christmas Eve BFP in the morning!!

[mpc863]

crossing my fingers for you goddess tiff!

[chi]

Katie- YAY!!! That is terrific! I hope this is it for you, what a great Christmas treat! Fingers crossed for you!

tiff-fingers crossed for you! Hope that this is it. Nice temp jump today.

mindy2137 -sorry about the UTIs...that stinks!

mpc863-good luck, hope AF stays away.

Good luck to all of the testers. I am CD 12, if this month is a typical cycle, I should O in about 5 days. So the BDfest should begin soon. I'm tired just thinking about it!! :rolleyes:

Happy Holidays to all!

[katiems118]

Just took another one, this time 3 hours after FMU, with a FRER and DH definatly sees the line!!!!!! Oh my gosh

Sea- you gotta catch that egg this month!!

Everyone else, cant wait for more BFPs from you. Especially Missy and Mel! (Us long timers)

[JLRenheos]

katiems OMG!!! :D I'm SO happy for you! Congratulations!!! Eek! Wow, and the BFPs keep on comin'! ;) Who's next?.... Have a wonderful Christmas & what a great little present you have!

[NotDesperate]

Katie- congrats!!!!!!! Wow!!!!!

[sea74]

KATIE :D :D :D :D :D I'm NOT shocked at.all! Your chart was looking WAY TOO GOOD not to have ended up with a BFP!!!
Merry Christmas to you!!!!

Sea- you gotta catch that egg this month!! I'm doing everything I can ;) It's been really good for me to see some of the "old timers" get there BFPs lately. I need that and it's been encouraging!

[mindy2137]

katie CONGRATS!!!!!!! :D:D:D My chart looks alot like yours, maybe I'll get a BFP on 10 dpo for christmas....I hope so!!!

[Loud_curly]

OMG Katie a HUGE CONGRATS!!! What a great Christmas present! You ladies have been on a role recently - keep 'em coming!

[heather1029]

Whoohoo!! Congrats and Merry Christmas katie! :)

And Merry Christmas to everyone else!
http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m67/glasgohr/newchristmastreewithcards022copy.jpg

[kemaji]

katie -- congrats!!!!! I'm so excited for you!!!!

[akacharlotte]

KATIE!!!!! Congrats!!!

Good luck to everyone testing tomorrow and Christmas day! I hope each and everyone of you get a BFP under the tree! :)

[JennZ]

Katie,
Hurray!! Congratulations! Oh, that is such great and wonderful and fabulous news!! I'm so thrilled for you!!

[missy329]

Katie- Huge Congrats!! It is great to see so many of us "old timers" getting BFPs! Of course I am happy any time someone gets a BFP!

[JillyBean]

Congrats Katie!!

[JennZ]

Missy,
It looks like you could possibly test on Christmas too......
Good luck!!

[Gia]

Congratulations Katie!

Merry Christmas everyone!

My chart is still wacky... the pattern shows a gradual rise and now my temps are pretty much what they are post O, but I still am not sure if/when I ovulated. I guess it's just wait and see. I am definitely not testing on X-mas.:( Good luck to everyone else- I hope you all get BFPs!

[Jill1228]

Katie, congrats! I am so happy for you! Sending mad SBVs

[HunBun]

Big congrats, Katie!! What wonderful news!

Happy holidays, everyone. :)

[Sue]

Great news Katie!!! Congratulations!

Happy Holidays!

[Goddess Tiff]

I AM FREAKING OUT!!!

I see a faint line, I swear. I have never thought I saw one before when I got a BFN. I tiook my last one and I swear, another faint line. If my leg wasn't broken I'd go buy more.

Can this be happening????

[katiems118]

GoddessTiff, thats so wonderful!!!!!! I would say since you are 14dpo, its a reliable result, which brand did you use?

[Goddess Tiff]

Katie, I used my last 2 ICs from earlypregnancytests.com. I am dying to take another - if my leg wasn't broken I would have already been to Walgreens and back!! DH will go for me in awhile, when he wakes up again. Since I woke him once already to hiss "Hey...I think I might be pregnant!" in his ear, lol. But I have stared and stared, and I'm POSITIVE there is a line.

[Goddess Tiff]

I posted a pic of it on FF and so far everyone sees it right off and says BFP. I just want a nice digital "pregnant!" Dammit, DH, go to Walgreens NOW. Stupid leg.

[heather1029]

Yay!!! Congratulations Tiff!!!!!

What a blessing!

[ABirney]

Tiff Congrats!!! H&H 9 months!
I was just popping in to wish you all a very Merry Christmas and hope Santa brings all of you your BFP's soon!

[Goddess Tiff]

LOOK!!!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v714/TiffanyC/DSC_0016.jpg?t=1198508713

[chi]

Tiff- Congratulations!!! That is terrific!! Happy and Healthy 9 months to you!! Wishing you the best of everything!!! :D:D:D

[sea74]

Congrats! Tiff!!!! H&H 9 months and beyond!!!! :D :D :D :D :D What an awesome month this has been in here!

Keep 'em coming ladies :D

[polkadot]

Oh girls...this is so great...this christmas rocks...keep em coming...i am just coming out of the lurking hole to wish you all H&H 9 months and to say Merry Christmas to all my girls....

Merry Christmas everyone!!!

Where are all the rest of those BFP's???

[mindy2137]

TIff That is so awesome!!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!! I'm so happy for you! :D :D :D :D
I want one! Maybe, maybe, maybe tomorrow!
Merry Christmas!!!!!EVERYONE!!!

[katiems118]

Yeah TIFF!!!!!!! Ok, who's next?


Called the RE and went in for a beta should have results by 3pm!

[Taylandra]

Just popping in quick from the IL's house to say CONGRATS to Tiff and Katie!!!!

Keep 'em coming, ladies!!

[stacy654]

Congrats to all the new BFPs!!! Merry Christmas!

TM - can you please add me to the roster - CD1. And I am not sure how you notate a miscarriage, but my BFP in October ended in a m/c.

Re-introducing myself -
CC Name: Stacy654
Me: Stacy - 29
DH: Brian - 29
Married since: June 5, 2004
Off BCP since: June 07
TTC since: August 07
Charting since: August 07
Known issues/test results: miscarriage in November 07, hypothyroidism - controlled since 04, VERY low progesterone during my first pregnancy, will be monitoring that more closely this time around. Dr. gave us the go ahead to start after one normal cycle.
Chart: My Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/97aad)
Current status: CD 1


Really this is all I could have asked for for Christmas. My body is starting to work again.

[JillyBean]

Congrats Tiff!! :D

[kemaji]

Congrats Tiff!!! OMG, I'm so excited for everyone who has gotten a BPF this month! After the past few slow months, this is fantastic!

Stacy -- I'm so sorry about your m/c.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here.

Stacy -- I've gone ahead and noted that you had a m/c in October. If you'd like to be removed completely, it is your choice, just let us know.

[akacharlotte]

A big Congrats to Tiff!!!!

Who's next? :D

I took a test this morning and it was negative which I figured but I thought what the heck.

[Annette]

Tiff-Congrats!! Happy & Healthy 9 months to you!

[t3h_wookiee]

Congrats Katie and Tiff!!!!


I'm sorry about your miscarriage Stacy. :(

[Jill1228]

Tiff, congrats! Sending SBVs your way!
We are on a roll!

[katiems118]

Ready to graduate, the RE called and said Congrats Im pg!!!!! (DH cried)

[JLRenheos]

I'm up because I can't sleep, plus it's Christmas anyways & I knew there would be some more people testing. I'm glad I popped in here to see...

GoddessTiff Holy Crap!!! Omg! :D Congratulations!! What a Great Christmas Present!! I'm sorry to hear about your broken leg.

Keep the Bfps rollin'...

Merry Christmas everyone!

[mpc863]

congrats tiff!

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!

me: i woke up to AF and awful cramps. on to cycle #4...

[Wen]

Congrats Tiff and Katie H&H 9mths!

Merry Christmas to all!

[mindy2137]

mpc sorry about AF the cramps.

BFN for me, only 10 dpo and sore bbs.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to Here.

[missy329]

Merry Christmas everyone!

Well, BFN for me at 11 DPO :( Looks like I am just waiting to move on to cycle #19.

[HunBun]

Wow, congrats, Tiff!! So thrilled for you! That is great news.

Sorry about the disappointments, charlotte, mpc, mindy, and missy. And Stacy, I'm so sorry for your loss.

I'm just trying to keep my mind off the 2ww, although patience is not my strong suit! Hope everyone who celebrates is having a lovely Christmas!

[stacy654]

Just checking in... I am so glad to see all the BFP's in here for Christmas! I would love one for Valentine's Day!!!

[Taylandra]

Stacy, I just wanted to tell you again that I'm sorry for your loss-here's hoping for a Valentine's gift!

Congrats again to everyone with a BFP!

Sorry to those who got BFN or AF...:mad:

Well, for those who have been following my chart, FF finally called O...Right in the middle of the 3 days we did not BD. :( At least we BD two days before the O FF has called, so there is still some hope. I know it will only be 11 DPO, but I will test on Dec. 31 just to see if I can squeeze in a BFP (if there is one to be had).

Merry Christmas ladies!

[kanga1622]

Congrats Katie and Tiff!

I forgot to update and say that my cycle ended (annov due to wisdom teeth) so I'm hoping for an earlier O this month and maybe we'll catch it! I'd really like to see a BFP before Feb since that is the 2 year mark for us.

[stacy654]

Praying that you will get that BFP soon Kanga!

[JillyBean]

Well, I think I ovulated. FF is calling it, saying I'm 6dpo. I haven't recorded my temps the past few days because I've been breathing through my mouth at night lately, and my temps are all funky because of it. I also think I'm going to be charting with FF now instead of Ovusoft because I just upgraded to a Mac and their software does not run on macs. So, TM, can you also update my chart to FF? Here is the link: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/170c59 Thanks :)

[raven077]

katie, eep! congrats girl! Merry Christmas, right? H&H 9 months!

And oh goodness, Tiff! Congrats to you as well! H&H 9 months!

[mindy2137]

I've been trying to post all day, I don't know what's up with my computer or cc!?!

missy Hang in there girl, it's not over until you see AF!
Kanga Good luck this cycle
jillybean We'll be watching your chart - good luck

I'm 11 dpo and a BFN yesterday. My temps are above the coverline but holding steady the past few days.

I have been a bit gassy and constipated (which I thought might be a good sign) but things are a bit looser down there (sorry, tmi). So, that's a typical AF is coming sign for me. I have AF acne, sore bb's, and that terrible wet feeling down yonder.

Last night DH asked me if his last present for the day was that I'm pg...I felt so bad and said no, I can't tell yet, I got a bfn. I almost started crying.

[luvnu43]

CC Name: Luvnu43
Me: Heather (26)
DH: Steve (25)
Married since: 9/24/2005
Off BCP since: 10/2005
TTC since: 12/1/2007
Charting since: 10/2005
Known issues/test results: None known
Chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10e6d7
Current status: Tomorrow will likely be CD1

This month didn't work out, but it was our first month. I would love to have more chart stalkers and just plan support. It is hard when you don't really tell people IRL, and often times they don't have a clue about charting. I think this thread will be very important to me!

[sea74]

Welcome, Heather! I really did think last month was going to be it for you. Your chart looked SO different than the others you have on your home page, and it was nice and steady.

[luvnu43]

Thanks sea, probably because I was VERY consistent with my timing. I was disappointed, but hey, it was the first month!

[mindy2137]

Welcome luvnu43 - Hope your stay here is short and sweet!

I'm expecting AF tomorrow or the next day. We will be traveling and I won't be back until Saturday. I'm still planning on temping while away and if I get a chance will drop in here to say hello! Wish me luck and send me lots o baby dust, PLEASE!!!

[HunBun]

Welcome, luvnu43! I know that first disappointment can be hard... hope you get your BFP next time!

Good luck, mindy!

Well, at 9dpo, I'm exhausted and my boobies hurt. I'm just the slightest bit queasy, yet I could still eat a horse and I've been tearing up at the drop of a hat... but it could all be nothing! It's so frustrating that PG symptoms and PMS symptoms are basically the same. Clearly, these symptoms are just here to annoy me, haha. :p

[melandtim]

Huge congrats to Katie and Goddess Tiff!

TM please move me to Waiting to O

[heather1029]

Welcome luvnu43!

Me: Just entering my fertile phase at CD14. My period dragged on for nine freaking days this time, so I'm getting slightly concerned. We may need to visit the RE sooner than later.:cool:

Hope everyone had a great Christmas (even those who got BFNs)!

[mindy2137]

So sorry melandtim! My heart breaks for you.

[missy329]

I'm out. Onto cycle #19. Waiting to O. :(

[akacharlotte]

hunbun-Lots of luck to you that those symptoms are most definitely PG not PMS!

luvnu-Welcome!

Missy and Mel-I am so sorry. :(

[melandtim]

missy - I'm sorry :( (((HUGS)))

Thanks mindy :) Needless to say we are devastated and it really ruined Christmas for us.

Thanks aka :)

Well my meds are ordered so we are onto cycle 22 and IUI #3. RE's office wants us to come in for an appointment to talk over things. I forsee IVF in our future :(

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to Here.

Welcome Luvnu43- Hope your stay is short and sweet. I added you to "waiting to join" as we ask that our members join on CD1. I will move you to "waiting to O" when that happens.

[JennZ]

Oh, mel! I'm so sorry!

[Goddess Tiff]

I'm so sorry, Mel. I was really praying for you. ((HUGS))

[sea74]

mel: I so want the third time to be the charm for you :( I know how much this sucks. Getting a BFN sucks anytime you get one but it's somehow even more crappy when you've paid $$$ for a medicated cycle, stuck yourself with needles or taken pills that turn you into Queen B!tch of the Universe, etc. HUGS, sweetie!

Missy: :( I'm so, so sorry.

Heather1029: I used to have REALLY long periods like that when I was much younger (and weighed a LOT less). I seemed to "grow" out of them when I was in my mid-20s and wasn't underweight anymore. I remember my GYN saying it wasn't a big deal. Now, my periods are pretty short *most* months and again, the RE said it's not really the duration of the bleeding that's the issue. I'd still totally bring it up to your doctor but just wanted to say don't stress too much about it until IF/WHEN you need to.
I'm still really hoping you get a BFP soon!

HunBun Hope those FPS turn into RPS!!!!! :D


me: I think I'm 5DPO and I started taking progesterone yesterday evening. I did use a trigger shot when I got a +OPK so I'm forced not to test early. The trigger shot could give me a false positive if I test before 12 days. I NEED to get my BFP this month. My older sister who was also suffering with her own infertility issues just got a Christmas miracle BFP :D and I so, so, so, so want to go through PG with her. Since we have both been dealing with fertility issues, we promised each other that we'd call the other one the moment we got the BFP. We had both been worried about getting PG first and then how to tell the other one. I can TRULY say that I'm thrilled for her. And I can truly say that I cried my eyes out after I hung up the phone with her. BUT, I cannot wait to have another niece or nephew!!!! And now I get to plan two showers this summer. A baby shower for my older sister and a wedding shower for my younger sister :D

Hope you all had a wonderful Christmas and I'm wishing you all a peaceful, successful TTC journey in the new year!!!!!!

[melandtim]

sea -
Queen B!tch of the Universe
My DH would so agree with you!!! He has been such a doll! Thanks for your support and I am so pulling for you!! I really hope this cycle is it for you! It would be so awesome for you and your sister to be giving birth so close together :)

Thanks Tiffany

[sea74]

My DH would so agree with you!!! When we started clomid one of the nurses told my DH, "Your wife is going to turn into a crazy person for awhile. Just know that it is temporary. She won't be this way forever. You're going to have to just settle it in your head now that she will act out and be irrational and very emotional and a lot of this will be aimed at you, BUT this will pass and you will have your old wife back." I thank God for that nurse. Her telling my DH that, and most of all reassuring him that it would not last forever, has helped.

[kanga1622]

Welcome Heather!

Mel and Missy - So sorry AF found you. :(

[melandtim]

sea - I wish someone had told me and DH that :p I couldn't beleive how crazy I got!

[stacy654]

Again doing a drive by... I miss the old days of getting to do good shoutouts, but I guess work calls. *blah*

[Jill1228]

Vent coming... :mad:

I have been crying most of the morning :(

Eric (DH's BFF) has been here since Sunday kicking it and sleeping on our couch. It has thrown a kink in our lives in more ways than one. He has worn out his welcome

HE HAS GOT TO GET OUT. he has his own damn place

Dave: We can't do the deed, what if he or someone interrupt us?

I have had 2 (now 3) days of EWCM first day (Christmas) DH (damn husband) was like "we will take care of things tonight" then he f-cking falls asleep. He sleepily says "we can cuddle" Well get a f-cking hint, cuddling won't get me knocked up. Yesterday he had to talk to Eric. Sure I know he is alone for Christmas, his contract is ending and he is about to be unemployed but that is not my f-cking problem

Today I have a peak on the FM and tried to get him up but with a houseful, he can't get in the mood. I am one day away from my next bday and time is NOT on my side. I will probably get a happy face on the opk but I don't have a smile on my face.


I know some of it is you can't get a man to get it up on demand but I can't help being angry, depressed, frustrated and taking the sh-t personally!


I guess we should just toss this month and consider it a wash. :(

Happy F-cking birthday to me! :(

[MMHinCA]

Mod: Can you move me back to waiting to O! We are back on board with TTC!

[chi]

APhiJill-I'm so sorry. That sucks. I totally understand. One of our first cycles DH went out with some buddies and got totally sh*tfaced drunk and stayed out WAY too late to BD, so needless to say I was so pissed at him. Just hang in there, DTD when you can and keep your cool. There's not much more to do, ya' know?

Welcome to our new members!

So sorry for those that AF found and those that received BFNs for Xmas. Total bummer.

me-so i have had the WORST few weeks at work, and I just haven't been able to temp properly. My FM is still on low and today is CD 16 (I usually O on CD 17 and 18) so it looks like the stress probably caused a delayed ovulation again. :( I am totally confused because I have been having some cramps on my left side several times today and they feel like "O" cramps and I did have a little bit of EWCM this morning, so maybe O is not too far away.

I have a question: this morning I got some EWCM, but by the time I got home to BD with DH tonight my CM was back to creamy. What does this mean? Should I only be BDing when I have the EWCM or watery CM?!?

TIA for your help!

[Taylandra]

APhiJill- Ugh...I'm so sorry you have to deal with that situation. We're still trying to be "casual" about TTC even with the charting, so it's hard when he's stressed out due to work and I can't get him to BD (hence our little hole right when I O'd). It sucks even more that you have company-how long has he been staying there? Surely he understands that there is a certain point where he needs to move on (at least for a few days to give you guys a break) or talk openly about the situation with you. :(

MMH- Welcome back!

Chi- I don't have a good answer for you, but the one time we did get pregnant, I did not have EWCM...I don't have it that often and it doesn't always correspond with O. I know it's pretty important though...I would say go ahead and BD-maybe there is still some EWCM around to help out.

Stacy- I hear you on the SO thing...I'm lucky if I do it once a week and then I feel bad b/c I know I didn't get to everyone!

Me- Still hanging out at 7DPO...Had a lot of lower back pain, which is unusual, and some strange "pain" in the stomach area. Not quite cramps, but that's what I'm calling them since they don't come and leave quickly. We'll see, I guess!

[Goddess Tiff]

Hey guys! Quick post to tell you my first OB appt and US is 2 weeks from Monday - the 14th. I'll be 7 weeks. Eeee!! :D

[t3h_wookiee]

I'm so sorry Mel. :( *huge hugs*

Jill, I'm sorry that things are so stressful. :(


TM I won't be able to update in here pretty soon, but I'll have a friend update here when I get my BFP. I will try to check in if I'm able to so that I can keep up on everybody. Love all of your ladies, and I hope to hear about more BFPs!

[Annette]

Mel & Missy-So sorry about AF.

jill-Why is his friend staying with you in the first place? Can you give him an ultimatum? We had a a friend crash with us once (he was in the middle of a job relocation, but his company ran out of money to pay him for a hotel). It was the worst 3-4 weeks ever. And this was when we had a tiny apartment. We kissed our privacy goodbye.

Sending ~baby dust~ to everyone!

[kanga1622]

Jill - I'm so sorry. I've experienced people that have their own place practically moving in without asking. Maybe you can get DH to understand that you need his buddy out NOW! I understand he didn't have anyone else to spend Christmas with but Christmas is over.

[melandtim]

Jill - I am so sorry about your house guest and about the lack of BD. Been through it myself unfortunately quite a few times. I hope you are able to get the friend to get out.

MMH - welcome back!

Jess - we will miss you! Check in with us.

Well its official, my body hates me :( Went in for my day 3 u/s and I have another cyst. So now I have one on each side. She didn't think it would affect us moving ahead with this cycle but come on enough already :(

[MizLarner]

Move me also to waiting to O.. we are going to TTC after all. I haven't been charting lately other than to note BD, and now I've lost my good BBT :( so now I'm having to use the kids' regular thermometer that only goes to tenths. I do expect O to be sometime this week.. My O dates have ranged from CD18 to CD26 :o But i'm hoping this is one of the shorter cycles.

[akacharlotte]

I have a question:

I will be taking Clomid CD5-9 as soon as AF shows up. A friend of mine who took Clomid also used OPKs. I'll start charting again next cycle so should I also use OPKs? Also, for those of you who use OPKs, do you take them multiple times a day or just once a day?

TIA!

[HunBun]

mel - I'm so sorry for the disappointment and frustration. It doesn't seem fair.

Jill - That suuuuuuuuucks.

Taylandra - Hoping those symptoms turn into good news for you!

Tiff - Yay for your upcoming appointment!! So exciting.

I'm now 11 dpo and trying not to think about it. Happy Friday, everyone!

[Jill1228]

Eric left and went back home yesterday. Thank G-d. We managed to get some "quality time" last night.

I was hoping for a birthday bang this morning but he didn't "finish". So I am hoping that last night was all that was needed

It would be a great birthday present. I am predicted to O today

[Goddess Tiff]

APhiJill - I hope that was the lucky night!!

[sea74]

I have a question:

I will be taking Clomid CD5-9 as soon as AF shows up. A friend of mine who took Clomid also used OPKs. I'll start charting again next cycle so should I also use OPKs? Also, for those of you who use OPKs, do you take them multiple times a day or just once a day?

TIA!

I use OPKs twice a day and when I'm not on fertility drugs I also use my CBEFM. I don't use the monitor w/drugs because then it skews my data for months I'm not medicated. GOOD LUCK!

[chi]

Well...I just knew that something was not right with my body during this TTC roller coaster. As you may recall, my U/S came back okay, my CD 3 b/w was fine, but I just got a message from my doctor. My 7dpo progesterone tests came back and it was only 4.2. :mad: Apparently this doesn't show "strong signs of ovulation". The doctor told me to call him back to "discuss next steps". UGH!

I just don't understand...my FM went to peak last month, I had EWCM, positive OPKs and my temp shifted. Unfortunately my cell phone was dead today so I didn't get the messsage till I got home tonight and now I won't be able to get answers until Wednesday. :(

I am just soooo bummed. I have to say that I am not surprised, I knew something was up, but I am so increadibly bummed. My FM was on high today, so I should BD, but now I feel like "why bother, its not going to work anyways." Anyone else have low progesterone like this? I suspect that it means he will probably put me on Clomid.

[sea74]

chi: I just don't understand...my FM went to peak last month, I had EWCM, positive OPKs and my temp shifted.
This is a good think because it means you're Oing on your own which is a HUGE part of the battle.
Yes, your progesterone is low and I can SOOOOO relate, but there are things that can easily fix that. Do you spot during your LP? That is another sign of a weak O/low progesterone.

Try not to get so down, I know that's easier said than done. There are a LOT of things they can do to give you a stronger O and like I said before, Oing on your own, as evident by your Peak readings/OPKs, temp shift, is a huge, GOOD thing. HUGS!!!!!

[sea74]

Also wanted to say there are some NICE looking charts out there! :D

[chi]

sea-thanks for your wisdom. That is the weird thing...I don't spot and my LP has been 13 days pretty regularly. My CD 3 b/w was fine and the doctor told me at my last visit that everything looked good. I took the test several weeks ago and just called to find out the results...really not even thinking that it would be an issue.

I am just devastated and all I can think about is that I am hosting a baby shower for a good friend next weekend. I can think of about 100 other things I rather do. That is so mean, I know, I just can't help it.

[sea74]

It's not mean, chi. I know you're happy for your friend but when you starting thinking that you *may* have to struggle for something that comes naturally so most people, it just starts making you think and feel different.

You have a normal LP and no spotting so I'm not sure what's up with your progesterone. Are you SURE about your O date? I wonder if you could get an ultrasound done right before you O next month and see how big your follicles are. I don't know if that's even something a doctor would do, but you don't seem (to me, an UNTRAINED person) to have any classic "symptoms" of a weak O or LPD :confused:

[JennZ]

Chi,
Just chiming in to say that just because one month shows a low progesterone number does not mean you always have a weak O.
I have been monitored several months (more times than I would like), and one month I had a 7DPO level of 4. The rest of the months were all normal- 22, 18, etc...
So if you have a high on your FM, get busy!! ;)
You may ultimately end up having to take Clomid or something, but it also could have just been a one time thing, you know?
Like Sea said, since you don't have any other signs of LPD (and I don't either), it could have just been a fluke last month.
I'm just saying don't despair! :)

[chi]

sea and jennz- Thank you for your replies, it really does help.

You have a normal LP and no spotting so I'm not sure what's up with your progesterone. Are you SURE about your O date? I wonder if you could get an ultrasound done right before you O next month and see how big your follicles are. I don't know if that's even something a doctor would do, but you don't seem (to me, an UNTRAINED person) to have any classic "symptoms" of a weak O or LPD

That is exactly what I was thinking! It just didn't make sense to me. I guess I always thought it was whether or not you O'd, not how strong it is. I hope Jennz is right, that it was a one time only thing.

My doctor told me to get the test done on CD25 because of my longer cycles (30-31 days), I went on CD 25, but I think that it was actually 8 dpo. Could this have effected the results SO dramatically?

My doctor is pretty proactive and he'll probably do whatever I want him to do regarding testing, so I guess that is good. I know I just need to take a deep breath, but my mind is racing with thoughts of how much this will all cost because my insurance won't cover a thing and the cost of everything just adds to the stress. I also have a fairly demanding job and the doctor's office and lab are all the way across town, so the thought of how much time this will take is a little off-putting.

As for the baby shower. Did I mention that this is a friend who got PG her first month trying and who is fairly insensitive to the fact that DH and I have been trying for several months without success? I think I will have to have mimosas on hand.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here.

[kemaji]

wookiee -- Guilty by association, huh? I've been meaning to change my avatar. :)

As for me, AF is imminent. I didn't bother temping this morning because I had my pre-AF headache yesterday, plus I've been feeling crampy.

We ordered the Fertell test (http://www.fertell.com/) and DH did his part a couple days ago. According the the instructions, any line means he has a count in the normal range. Well, DH's line was barely a line...it was more like a whisper of a line, so of course now I want him to go in and get all worked up so we can know specific numbers. I'll do my part on CD3.

[mindy2137]

I really want to catch up and give shout outs, and I will later or in the morning. I just wanted everyone to know that I'm on 14 dpo and no AF, but major temp dip BELOW the coverline this am. I'm pretty sure I'm start tomorrow as my average lp 14 days. I'm cramping like crazy and pretty much feel like crap. If my temp wouldn't have dropped this am I would think MAYBE I'm pg, but not now. I'm prepared for AF.

[Taylandra]

Mindy- I'm sorry to hear that you think AF will arrive tomorrow...Here's hoping on the off chance that it will stay away!

Kemaji- Sorry to hear that AF is on her way for you as well. :(

Chi- It sounds like some of the ladies have given you good information! Mimosas do sound like a good idea at the baby shower...Or some margaritas!

I'm trying not to break down and test tomorrow (10DPO), but I feel so "full." It could be bloating, but it doesn't feel quite the same. I could use some crossed fingers either way, b/c I'll definitely test on Monday!

[Goddess Tiff]

Good luck Taylandra!

[mindy2137]

Good luck taylandra!

kemaji So sorry about AF, it sucks.

chi It does sound like woman who have alot more knowledge than I are all over your post, and the information sounds great. I wander if my progestrone is low. Oh, maybe not, but can you use progestrone cream instead of clomid? Just a thought.

As for me, AF bright and early this am. I didn't bother temping, as I as rudely awaken at 4am with good 'ole red-headed aunt edna visiting :(

Truthfully, this is so hard. I know I said I was prepared, and I'm not crying but this just so sucks.

How do you ladies do it? Month after month after month of trying and trying and trying and coping with the fact that it doesn't happen? I've been off bcp for over a year, but charting since Feb and doing the lets just have sex when we want (because we really want a baby, but DH is scared to be like yeah, let's try hard, every single month, with perfect timing, you know? He seems to think a 'planned accident' would be better!?! He's crazy!) Anyway just for the past 2 months actually good timing and trying and getting my hopes up, it's so hard. I've had every symptom in the book, bloated, gassy, sore boobs, cramps, had it all. I'm very, very impatient when it comes to things like this. Having a baby is supposed to be easy (or that's the way they make it sound in health class). I suppose because I'm a planner I expected it to happen sooner (but in the back of my mind kept thinking, it will take months). It's very hard emotionally. It feels like I'm just shutting down to the rest of the world and focusing everything on TTC, and I don't mean to.

I know, I know there are women all over this board who have been going at it for months, like 7, 10, 18, 24 and they just keep trying. I would like to say, I admire your strength and endurance. I respect you, on a totally new level. I'm not sure how you do it, but you ARE AWESOME, you ARE.

I know have tears in my eyes, I know this will happen for us, it will. We are going at it strong this month, taking mucinex and whatever else I need to do. I clearly O so that's good.

PS tm, please move me to waiting to O, thanks!

[JennZ]

{{Hugs}} Mindy!

[Taylandra]

Mindy- *hugs* to you! I'm a planner too, so it's very frustrating to me for the same reasons you listed. We got pregnant so easily SWH in July and now it seems to be a struggle. I just keep telling myself there is only a 20% chance each month, but it still sucks. Hopefully you won't be around this thread much longer!

BFN this morning...But it is 10DPO, so we'll see. I have one more free test, so I'll use that in the morning and then see if AF arrives on Tuesday as scheduled. If not, I'll go buy a test for Wednesday.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here.

[HunBun]

Mindy, I empathize more than I can say. We haven't been at this that long either, but it's still so disappointing every time it doesn't work out. Plus, freaking PMS and hormones messing with our emotions doesn't help us deal with the disappointment at all, right? It's hard, it really is.

AF hasn't shown up yet for me, but my temp dropped this morning, so I'm expecting AF at any moment now.

[luvnu43]

CD1 for me today! I am excited for this next month. Hopefully the new year will bring us some BFP!

Please move me to "waiting to O"!

Thanks!

[stacy654]

Mindy - I hear you... I am a true planner and things were going right on track - got pg on our 3rd month of trying, carried to 10 weeks and had a m/c. It sucks that we can't control what is going on. BIG HUGS!

Me - our Christmas is finally over. *whew* Temps seem to be back to "normal" (as in when we first started charting.) One normal cycle is behind us so we are officially TTC now. Just a couple more days and we will be bding like crazy!

[sea74]

Minday: My heart goes out to you. Getting the negative is NEVER easy, whether you've been trying a short time or a long time. As for how women get through it month after month ... well, you just do. Some how, some way. And it ain't always graceful either :o In the back of my mind I thought we'd have to try a little longer to get PG, like maybe six cycles at the most, but now, being three times past that time frame, it truly sucks. I just keep my eyes on the reward that will someday be at the end of the journey.
I hope a BFP comes your way soon :)

Alright upcoming testers: I'd love to see the end with a few more BFPs. Anyone testing tomorrow?

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to Here.

[akacharlotte]

I'm frustrated! AF is not here yet at CD36. I'm beginning to think this cycle was anov. I keep testing just for the sake of testing and keep getting a BFN. This is my luck. I have the meds to start and my body decides to screw with me.:rolleyes: It figures.

[heather1029]

What is everyone doing in regards to temping tomorrow morning? We're having a big party at my house, and there's no way I'll be going to bed before 3! My temp tomorrow will be WAY off, and what sucks is that today (CD18) is my typical O day!

[sea74]

Heather: We're also hosting a party at our house and won't get to bed at any reasonable. However, I'm in the 2ww so my temps are not as crucial.

If this is your typical O time, get in some BDing before you start running around to get the house ready. Use OPKs and CM to help confirm any O that happens today. Then, temp as close to your normal time as you can. If your normal time is less than four hours after going to bed after guests leave, then I'd set your alarm for an hour or so later and then temp. Make a note on your chart regarding the time/temp. BUT ABOVE ALL ELSE cover your bases and get to BD w/your DH before you have guests over. I hope your new years starts off with a BFP!!!! Oh, and this is just what *I* would do. Not like it's the "official" direction for temping late after a party ;)

[Jill1228]

I'm peeved. I didn't get cross hairs on FF today...WTF?

[katiems118]

AphilJill- If you either discard CD 16 temp, it will give you crosshairs, or if you change your detector to OPK it will give you crosshairs, otherwise it will wait til tomorrow. HTH

[Jill1228]

thanks Katie! :)

Yup, that did it!

I took the temp over an hour earlier than I should have (it was discarded on TCOYF)--nature called at an ungodly hour...I had to adjust it so I probably shoulda discarded it in the first place

[Julss05]

Tiff Congrats!!

I'm back home hanging out around 9-11 DPO? I've had a terrible cold all week. Think I'll try to wait until this weekend to test, expecting AF early next week.

Happy New Year everyone! Here's to many more BFPs in 2008!:D

[jellybeany]

Could you please move me to waiting to O? I'm on provera to bring on AF. I guess I didn't O on my first round of clomid. On to round 2.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to Here.


New thread should be up this afternoon or tomorrow. :o

[heather1029]

Hi all. Could you please remove my chart link and information from the first page? I'll be on LJ if anyone wants to friend me there.

Good luck to everyone with TTC this year.

[sea74]

Heather: I don't journal over there, but I keep up with a lot of people over there. I friended you so hopefully if you read this, you can friend me, too. I'd really like to keep up with you :)

[MMHinCA]

I'm confused... I got a + OPK yesterday and today... what does this mean? If we BD'd yesterday and today do we have a chance?

[HunBun]

Happy New Year, everyone! I hope this will be a year of BFPs for all! :)

MMH - BD'ing yesterday and today is just right! Maybe tomorrow too..?

TM, could you please move me to waiting to O? Thanks!

[JennZ]

I'm confused... I got a + OPK yesterday and today... what does this mean? If we BD'd yesterday and today do we have a chance?
__________________

Yes!! An excellent chance!!
Today is most likely your O day, so your timing is perfect!
Good luck!

[MMHinCA]

Thanks HunBun and JennZ! I definately feel like I am Oing today... O pains all day. We will try to fit in another BD session tomorrow night if DH gets home from work at a decent hour but if not yesterday and today will be it.