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jjohm
01-14-2008, 05:54 PM
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christmas/100day celebration

alex has outgrown his 6 month clothes and is into the 6-12 m or 9 m sizes...DH keeps saying he feels like alex should be walking around by now, lol.

finally rolling from tummy to back. it's hilarious to watch because he lifts both his legs and heaves them over, and then twists his shoulders. of course then, his one arm is stuck under his body. it's a major effort!

today, i am officially the worst mom in the world. i gave him some frozen bm today, and he threw it ALL up. must have gone bad because i didn't store it in the back. :(

my hair is also falling out by the handful...got myself a perm so it can look fuller!

emschwar
01-14-2008, 08:37 PM
jjohm - cute! I love that sleeper!

Is anyone dealing with teething? I can't decide if Daniel is or not. Everything goes in the mouth, and there's a lot of drooling (but Noah did the same at this age, and he got his first tooth at 9 months), but occasionally he'll just chomp down on stuff REALLY hard (fun when it's my finger). Just wondering if it's teething or normal stuff for this age.

Oh, and I took this picture today to show how small my little shrimp is. This is Daniel wearing a NEWBORN size onesie:
http://images.costcophotocenter.com/232323232%7Ffp%3A%3A%3Dot%3E2326%3D42%3C%3D528%3DX ROQDF%3E2323%3B88%3B2%3A333ot1lsi

TracyDP
01-15-2008, 12:33 AM
emschwar: Daniel is adorable! I couldn't stuff Eleanor into a NB size onsie if her life depended on it!

I doubt it's teething at this point, I think they have just discovered their mouths are there. It's about taste and texture at this point. Ellie is the same way and I've looked in her mouth and don't see any teeth yet.

Size: Ellie turned 4m on Jan. 6th and she is solidly into her 3-6m clothes. All of the NB stuff is packed up and ready to give to a friend of mine who is due in February and is supposed to be having a fairly small baby. I realized that First Moments from Kohls runs small because she is almost outgrown their 3-6m sleepers. Bummer too because I bought several and I really like them. If I'd known how small they run I'd have bought the next size up, but like a dork I washed them before I tried one on her.

Ellie is tall and lean though so she has NB size pants that fit her around but are too short, and 3-6m ones that are the right length but are too big around her waist. I got her some babylegs legwarmers to wear under some of her jeans that fit her waist but are too short. I also got some short overalls on clearance that look cute with the babylegs under them.

Ellie also had a formula-hurling incident today. I was feeding her after her doctors appointment before the trip home and when I was done she immediately stuffed practically her whole hand in her mouth, set off her gag reflex and YURP!!! up it ALL came all over her, me and her car seat. :eek: Yay. And I'd forgotten to put a change of clothes in the diaper bag so I just used her blanket to wipe up, got her home and threw her in the bath. It's so funny though because after about 3 spurts of formula she just looked at me and laughed and smiled, with formula goo on her chin, like it was nothing. It's a good thing she's cute! :p

TracyDP
01-15-2008, 12:47 AM
She's all gross motor skills, too -- regular rolls from tummy to back, loves to stand (loves the exersaucer we got, though it's on the lowest setting for my shortie), and is pretty close to rolling from back to tummy. Isn't so into the grabbing though -- all about kicking.

Ellie is going from back to tummy more than tummy to back. On her tummy she pushes herself onto her side, then usually starts to fall asleep (I put her to sleep on her side). She just doesn't see the need to keep going all the way over. She's done it a couple of times so I know she can, she just choses not to. She is pretty good though as curling up in a ball on her back and rolling over. She is into the kicking too, especially on her changing table. We routinely have "Naked Baby Riverdance". It's hilarious because she looks EXACTLY like an Irish step-dancer with her arms at her side or straight out and her little feet and legs going 100mph. I really need to videotape it one of these mornings.

hmbay
01-15-2008, 06:34 AM
Sabrina is in 3-6 and 6-9 month clothes. It's bizarre for me because both of my boys were smaller (although right now my 2 y.o. is wearing close to the same size as my 4 y.o). motor skills-no rolling yet but everything else is on track. All of my kids rolled a bit later though I seem to remember.

2 Crazy Pugs
01-15-2008, 08:28 AM
Question for all of you who work outside the home- what is your routine in the morning to get ready for work with the baby? I am having a very hard time with this. My DH leaves by 7 each morning, I don't have to be at work until 9. But Sophia is up around 7. And I have to leave by 8:15 or so to get her to daycare. If I get up early to shower, she wakes up when she hears the shower going (funny, she doesn't when DH showers, only when I do). She will entertain herself for maybe 15-20 minutes or so, but that is it. So if I do get to shower, its quick and I can't wash my hair. I can't spend the time in the morning to really get ready, and I feel awful about it any myself, I feel like I look like such a slob, hair in a ponytail or up every day. And the whole "I have a 4 month old baby" excuse isn't cutting it anymore.

Kiley
01-15-2008, 08:32 AM
Here is where having 2 kids is great - my 2 year old "reads" books to the baby while I get ready. That way they are both happying because they are giving each other attention. But, if said 2 year old is not digging the bonding time that reading brings, the baby goes from the crib w/ mobile to floor play gym to bouncy seat to swing to carseat - wherever he's happy. Could you shower at night?

Taurus
01-15-2008, 09:47 AM
I don't WOH but I still have trouble getting ready in the morning. Right now the baby goes in the bouncer in the bathroom while I shower (or just get ready w/out a shower) and DS1 gets to play with a plastic tub of little travel toiletries that he adores. He calls it "bathroom stuff". I just take out the things he can open, but he never opens things he's not supposed to anyway.

Another reason two is great: even a 23 month old is a big help when you drop things or leave them in another room!

2 Crazy Pugs
01-15-2008, 12:39 PM
I can shower at night, but it still would be nice to be able to shower in the morning. If I shower at night, I end up just putting my hair up. I have to fix it when I wash it, it doesn't look good when its dirty.

Its so frustrating.

Heidi
01-15-2008, 12:47 PM
I haven't posted in a while, just busy I guess.

Last Mon. Owen has his 4 mo. WBV He was 16lbs 13oz and 26.25 inches long. I can't remember his head circ right now.

jjohm - cute pic, I have the same sleeper!

Tracy - Ellie is so cute in her glasses, I love them!

Jess - I used to have one of those circle loom things. I don't know where it is now, but you are making me want to find it! Gage is such a big boy, he's adorable!

Texas - welcome, Sophia is so sweet. What a great story you have!

Sabre - Zach looks so happy on the floor - what a cutie!

Em - Daniel is SO small (and sweet!) He looks REALLY long in that photo though.

Things are good here. Owen is in his 6-9 cloths. He isn't rolling yet, but probably because I wear him most of the day. He is never happy unless he is with me. So he is usually in a sling, a wrap or the babyhawk. I do try to make sure he is on the floor some of the day for tummy time, he just doesn't like to stay there for more than 15-20 min.

TracyDP
01-15-2008, 01:28 PM
I can shower at night, but it still would be nice to be able to shower in the morning. If I shower at night, I end up just putting my hair up. I have to fix it when I wash it, it doesn't look good when its dirty.

Its so frustrating.

I am a stay at home mom right now, but if I have to get ready to go somewhere with Ellie I seem to manage it ok. I have the un-mother like ability to let Ellie cry when I need to get something done. I put her down on the floor with her play gym after she's been changed and eaten then run shower. She is usually good for about 20 minutes and if I hear her getting fussy I figure she'll live for another 10 minutes while I brush my teeth and finish my hair. I tell myself she's just getting lots of good oxygen to her gigantic developing brain. :rolleyes: I grab her and take her in the bedroom with me while I get dressed and it usually works ok. Luckily she seems to be getting able to entertain herself much better, sometimes playing with her gym or in her bouncy seat for an hour at a time as long as I wander over and smile/talk to her every 10 minutes or so. I put her in her bouncy seat in the kitchen last night so I could wash her bottles and she was so good for so long that I actually got the entire kitchen clean, including the floor! In the end she fell asleep in the seat and only woke up because I dropped a pan while putting it away.

texasbride
01-15-2008, 05:49 PM
Question for all of you who work outside the home- what is your routine in the morning to get ready for work with the baby? I am having a very hard time with this. My DH leaves by 7 each morning, I don't have to be at work until 9. But Sophia is up around 7. And I have to leave by 8:15 or so to get her to daycare. If I get up early to shower, she wakes up when she hears the shower going (funny, she doesn't when DH showers, only when I do). She will entertain herself for maybe 15-20 minutes or so, but that is it. So if I do get to shower, its quick and I can't wash my hair. I can't spend the time in the morning to really get ready, and I feel awful about it any myself, I feel like I look like such a slob, hair in a ponytail or up every day. And the whole "I have a 4 month old baby" excuse isn't cutting it anymore.

Have you thought about getting her up before DH leaves and having him take care of her while you shower and get ready? Not ideal, but if she's already getting up at 7:00 it probably wouldn't mess up her schedule too much. I'll usually put Sophia in her bouncer when I'm showering and getting ready. Sometimes she'll get a little fussy while I'm showering, but she seems to love the sound of the hairdryer so it's worked so far. Do you have an exersaucer? Sophia loves hers, so I'm considering moving that to the bathroom instead of the bouncer.

I know that in your last post you said that you've tried showering at night and just putting your hair up - have you tried drying it? I'm NOT a morning person at all and have had a hard time getting up early again (I started back to work on Jan. 2), so I'm considering showering and drying my hair at night and then just straightening it in the morning. We'll see if it works.

jodylovesscotty
01-16-2008, 05:29 AM
2 crazy pugs~ We do what texasbride said. My DH gets DD ready in the morning (feed her and get her clothes on) while I shower and get ready for work. Then I take over after I am done and get her off to daycare. Before I went back to work I did what the others said, I put Zoë in her swing and she would usually fall asleep with the fan on.

We go on the 21st for Zoë 4 month well visit. I can't believe how fast she is growing. She is rolling from back to tummy. She can't quite get her arm out of the way to get back to the other side. She loves to stand and talk up a storm. We are going to get her an exersaucer this weekend as she eyes all the kids playing in those at daycare.

hmbay
01-16-2008, 07:30 AM
speaking of talking--Sabrina has started talking to herself at night in her crib. I thought perhaps she was talking to her mobile but when it was obvious she wasn't going to shut up last night so I could go back to sleep I went into her room at 2:30 am and found her staring towards the door (not her mobile) and she got all excited when she saw me--I think she was actually "talking" to me to get me to come in and change and feed her. I don't remember the boys doing that--I just remember screaming when they woke up hungry or wet.

DisneyGirl
01-16-2008, 07:56 AM
I am a SAHM, But I do have to wake up at 7 every monring so I can get my Oldest to school. My mornings go like this: I wake up at 7..wake K up then feed and change him then in his bouncer or on my bed he goes. Then I hurry take a shower get ready then wake the other the 2 kids up and get them ready and we are outta the house at 8:45.

TracyDP
01-16-2008, 12:48 PM
I think the key to getting shower time in the morning is to basically set up a routine, even if it means letting DC cry for a while the first few times. When I started my morning routine of putting Ellie in her play gym while I showered she would be crying by the time I got done for the first couple of days. Then each day I got a little more time before she started to get fussy. Now I get a full 30 minutes (more if she falls asleep) and usually I come get her to go into the bedroom with me while I get dressed and she is still smiling at her playgym and happy. Now that she is able to suck her hand/thumb and talk to herself she is able to entertain herself longer. It's great!

Sleep: It's been for crap lately. She hasn't STTN since last Thursday and I'm going nuts. She has been going down at 10:00 or so, then up at 3, 6 or 7 and up for the day at 9:30. For a while she was skipping the 3am and sleeping until 6. Last night she woke up with a leaky diaper at 12:45 and I just about lost it. I'd stayed up after she went to bed to get a few things done and had just gotten to sleep at 12. Tired mommy and cranky baby is not a combination for the faint of heart. To top it all off I finally got Ellie back to sleep, got in bed and DH was snoring like a congested buffalo. I gave him a shove and told him to turn over and he told me to f*ck off!! I started crying, he woke up and realized what he'd said...felt bad and appologized. I know he pretty much did it in his sleep and it wasn't personal, but it was the last straw. I feel much better today though. Coffee good...

TracyDP
01-20-2008, 03:53 PM
Seriously, did I kill this thread or what? Anybody out there?

emschwar
01-20-2008, 08:20 PM
LOL! We're here, just B-U-S-Y!

Daniel's 4 month appt was wednesday. His weight gain wasn't as much as the ped would have liked, he gained a little less than a pound in 2 months. He's now 3rd percentile for weight (and 70th for height - my little bean pole!). The ped isn't really concerned, since a) Noah did the same thing between 4 and 6 months (although he actually lost weight), b) he's had 3 back-to-back colds in those 2 months, and c) he's showing skeletal growth and brain growth, which are more important indicators than weight. I'm not really worried either. Explains why he's still fitting in size 1 diapers (I put him in size 2s for a few days, because I ran out of size 1 and didn't feel like buying more, but they were so ridiculously huge, I had to go out and buy more 1s) and still fits in the newborn onesies! (Though not in newborn sleepers - he's way too long for those!)

Today we took the boys to PP for their valentine's card deal. This just cracks me up everytime I look at it:
http://images.costcophotocenter.com/232323232%7Ffp%3B6%3Dot%3E2326%3D42%3C%3D528%3DXRO QDF%3E2323%3B8%3A629586ot1lsi

Taurus
01-20-2008, 09:15 PM
Em, that picture is adorable. I love watching my boys together. DS2 has had a cold and DS1 started saying "bless you, N" every time N sneezes. The extreme cuteness of their interactions makes up for how much DS2 does not sleep! OK, sort of.

We have been busy, too. Had DS1's 2nd bday party yesterday, and still working every day on the sleep problems with #2. We are going to see a homeopathic doc as I know there is something bothering DS2 and waking him up constantly. He did some 3-hour stretches and a few even longer ones once--that was nice. Sigh. I don't think he is waking up to eat but I can try that theory out tonight since my parents took DS1 and so if there's a little crying from DS2 it won't wake DS1.

Hope everyone's doing well.

sabrespa
01-21-2008, 05:35 AM
Em~ That picture is adorable!

I actually attempted to post in here the other day but it kept timing out on me.

We tried cereal about a week ago. He's really interested our food, so I thought I'd give it a try. The first day he ate it, made faces the entire time but ate it all. The next day I gave him one bite and he spit it out and then refused to open his mouth for any more. The look on his face said that he wasn't going to eat that fowl tasting crap. So I gave up. I figure in a few weeks or so I'll mix it with some babyfood and give it to him that way.

He still isn't rolling over or tripod sitting. This is so strange for me because my other two kids were doing both by 4 months.

jodylovesscotty
01-21-2008, 06:58 AM
Tracy~ No, you didn't kill the tread, just busy.

I can't believe that Zoë is 4 months old today. I am off work but I took her to daycare to get a few things done around the house (much needed). This weekend we bought her the baby einstein discovery center (exersaucer) and she just loves it!!!

DisneyGirl
01-21-2008, 09:36 AM
He still isn't rolling over or tripod sitting. This is so strange for me because my other two kids were doing both by 4 months.

Ya know, I was just coming on here to post the same thing. #3 seems to be lagging as far as what the others were doing at this age. I mean 'm not too worried since he show no signs of problems..I just figured he would do them sooner actually.

hmbay
01-21-2008, 11:02 AM
no rolling or tripod sitting here either but neither of the boys rolled until 4 or 5 months. She's close for both so I expect both in the next few weeks.

Speaking of 4 months I'm bad about getting into the photo studio at 3 months so most of my kids had 4 and 8 month photos. And here are a couple of Sabrina's 4 month photos:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/hmbay/5f3602cd-c399-11dc-921c-00132036a48.jpg?t=1200936717
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/hmbay/60aec020-c399-11dc-921c-00132036a48.jpg?t=1200936790

And a new family picture:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v237/hmbay/5d140d28-c399-11dc-921c-00132036a48.jpg?t=1200936311

Jess71903
01-21-2008, 01:48 PM
Heather- GREAT pics! Gage is almost 5 months and we have yet to get pro photos done.

rolling and tripod sitting- Gage rolled over 3 times from tummy to back but that was a week or more ago and hasn't done it since. He has rolled back to tummy with a little help from the bed being sloped because his daddy was laying on it. I hadn't thought to try tripod sitting, but just did. Gage can do it for a little bit. It's pretty cute!

TracyDP
01-21-2008, 10:58 PM
Em~ That picture is adorable!

I actually attempted to post in here the other day but it kept timing out on me.

We tried cereal about a week ago. He's really interested our food, so I thought I'd give it a try. The first day he ate it, made faces the entire time but ate it all. The next day I gave him one bite and he spit it out and then refused to open his mouth for any more. The look on his face said that he wasn't going to eat that fowl tasting crap. So I gave up. I figure in a few weeks or so I'll mix it with some babyfood and give it to him that way.

He still isn't rolling over or tripod sitting. This is so strange for me because my other two kids were doing both by 4 months.

I have been giving Ellie cereal mixed with formula in a bottle for about 3 weeks now and she is used to it once in the morning and once at night. I am not sure if I'll start her out on cereal when I start spoon feeding, or on veggies. I actually bought some organic 1st food peas and carrots the other day on sale. Nice in tiny little bottles for one serving. I am interested to see how she reacts to carrots since DH is slightly allergic. Raw carrots make his throat itchy and a little swollen.

I ordered the Fisher Price space saver high chair you all recommended. It should be here this week. I'm looking forward to having somewhere to put her in the kitchen besides her bouncy seat. She likes to be sitting up and "adult" level now. Her favorite place is in her Mei Tai carrier facing out. We spent almost 4 hours at IKEA the other day and she was happy the whole time, with a break midway through for lunch and a diaper change. Side note...I was smart enough to leave my credit card at home. Holy crap, what a bunch of awesome stuff!!! I wish I'd have gone there before doing her nursery.

Ellie is rolling over from tummy to back on occasion, but as I mentioned she more often gets to her side then starts to fall asleep or just stays there and sucks on her hands.

Anyway, I'm going to go jump in the hot tub while DD is sleeping and DH is still up to keep an eye on her.

sabrespa
01-22-2008, 06:37 AM
Zach must be growing, he had 3 bottles between 3am and 7am. That's 3 bottles in 4 hours. What a piggy!

Disney~ Good to hear that Zach isn't the only one not following in his sibling's footsteps.

DisneyGirl
01-22-2008, 09:27 AM
Zach must be growing, he had 3 bottles between 3am and 7am. That's 3 bottles in 4 hours. What a piggy!



11:30 am here and so far since 7 am I have feed K like 10 oz already...GESH!
sabrespa..I think your right the boys must be going through a spurt.

Bucktown
01-22-2008, 12:16 PM
I haven't been here in quite awhile! Life is moving pretty quickly here as I'm sure it is for everyone. We wound up staying in SLC for the entire trip (I posted early this month about DD screaming the whole time) because it would have cost me $400 just to change our tickets to come home earlier. So, I stuck it out. The kid screamed the last 45 minutes of the flight which ended with me crying when 2 single guys made a comment to me about it. Not nasty, but when I went to apologize the stress of the past 2 weeks just got the best of me. They offered to carry my 3 y/o off the plane since he fell asleep & would not budge and my baggage. They were really sweet. :o

DD's sleeping has gone in the trash since we've been back. She's only sleeping about 2 hour streches now and sometimes waking every 30 minutes. We've started letting her just fuss by herself if it isn't during a feeding time. She never full out screams, just 'fake' cry as I call it. She's no longer swaddled and in a sleep sack, but she would constantly break out of the swaddle and wake up anyway so we got rid of it. The ped today told me to dump her paci. Yeah right lady.

She had her 4 mo. visit today and apparently my daughter is fat. :mad: She is 17 lbs and 25". The ped referenced some study about how babies that are large are destined to be obese children/teens/adults. I tried to tell her that my son started the same way, almost the exact same measurements, and now he's 38 3/4 in tall and only 34 1/2 lbs! I'd switch practices but this is my 3rd peds office and today was our 1st visit to them. I also have to bring her to Children's Hospital to have her hips u/s. I guess she has a crease on one leg (looks like a fat roll to me) that is not on the other side so she wants to check it out to rule out hip dysplasia.

Here is a pic we took almost 2 weeks ago for my MIL's wedding. DD screamed the entire time there too so this pic was taken when we got home.

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd127/Croceil9/IMG_2533_1.jpg?t=1201027708

rolling~ nope. But I attribute that to her being swaddled for so long in addition to having hardwood floors thru out the house. Plus, if I leaveher on the floor for any length of time DS will for sure either run over her or hit her with a flying car/ninja turtle or drum stick. He's just crazy.

sitting~ Again, haven't tried the tripod sitting thing but she does sit on the couch very well propped on the pillows. DS was 4 mos exactly when he was able to tripod.

cereal~ Tried it on Saturday & she's not interested. I did buy a new high chair though. Funny lots of you RO's recommend the space saver chairs because with #1 I used one of those and hated it. Always swore with #2 I'd get a high chair. I love it! She can be at a good level to watch me cook and the tray is large enough to have a few toys one there. She hates to be reclined anymore as if saying 'Mommy, that's sooooo 3 months!' She thinks she's hot stuff in the chair though. ;)

I'm sure there were lots of other QOTD out there but I need some down time before I have to pick up DS. Have a great day everyone!

hmbay~ cute pics of the family! Sabrina looks adorable.

em~ That's a great shot of the boys.

DisneyGirl
01-22-2008, 12:24 PM
OH, Bucktown I am so sorry to hear that your trip home was a bit stressful and that your DD sleeping habits have gone to down the tubs. I hope it gets better for you.

About your baby being fat..tell your ped to shove it up her &*^! I have come to find that no matter how big/small your baby is there is always something they say. Like my DS was big as a baby and now hes normal..this baby is "too small". I mean what the hell..I did everythin the same with all my kids. As far as her telling you to get rid of the paci...why would she tell you that?? I mean its not like she 3 still with her paci..she 4 months old!
Love the picture BTW!

Hmbay What a awesome family you have..That picture came out great!!

Bucktown
01-22-2008, 12:30 PM
Thanks Disney, I'm so upset about this peds practice that I'm not sure if I want to cry or be super pissed off. I don't think she looks fat either. I think she (and DS) are like me. I hide weight really really well. At 4mo DS was 16 lbs 9oz and 25 1/2 inches. That isn't that much of a difference between her and him.

I'm not sure where they paci thing is coming from other than the sleep issues. She asked what calms her back down to sleep. Well, the paci. I guess she shouldn't have any soothers then. :(

Jess71903
01-22-2008, 02:55 PM
Buck- it sounds like you are having a hard time!! I am super sorry about the plane trip and the sleep issues! We have been having a few sleep issues here with my usual perfect sleeper, so maybe it's just their age- growth spurt, trying a new skill, or teething.

On the weight thing...again, if your girl is fat then mine needs to check into a clinic! He was 18lbs at 3 1/2 months. Can't wait to see what he is now! I don't know what it is with peds and weight. Like Disney said, it's always something with weight- too big or too small. The nutritionist at our Children's hospital wasn't worried and neither am I. Besides, what are we supposed to do? DS is EBF...should I just start letting him scream when he's hungry? I don't think he'd like a "diet"!

Bucktown
01-22-2008, 03:16 PM
Jess~ Yeah, it's been kinda rough here but I went thru a whole lot worse with DS#1 so this really is more of an I'm tired now vs she's driving me crazy thing. She's an angel at home (except for sleep). When I said something about her weight I think she said something in regards to weight AND height. She's 90% for weight but only 75% for height. I guess that 25 percentage points really makes a difference (JK). I'm thinking our sleep issues are because she's trying super hard to roll over. She's completely twisted when I ly her down and twisted when I go back in to feed/paci her. Guess she can't get over that big ole belly!

DisneyGirl
01-23-2008, 08:26 AM
I just wanted to send out big (((((HUGS)))) to those of you with babies that are having a hard time sleeping.. I remember when everyone's babies where sleeping so well and mine was NOT(took until x-mas for him to finally sleep more than 3 hrs)..then finally oneday he decided to give me a break(HEHEH) and start sleeping...I so feel your pain I really do! I know that it can get the best of us.

Now that I got the sleeping issue under control..it seems as though my wonderful DS is some what of a cranky pants during the day. He spends much of his time just carring on and on and onnnnn..and he gets bored so fast...I must admit at time i want to jump out my window....HEHEHEHE

Amuse Bouche
01-24-2008, 09:11 AM
M. turned 4 months yesterday and had her 4 month WBV. She's holding steady at 25%ile weight, between 25 and 50 for height, and between 50 and 75 for head circumference. Meaning she's built just like her dad.

She been a little motormouth lately, too. Yammering all the time. And she was rolling from tummy to back pretty reliably but she's stopped in the past week. She's working on rolling from back to tummy though. She also is allzabout the feet these days.

hmbay
01-24-2008, 12:01 PM
Had Sabrina's 4 month WVB yesterday.

16 pounds 2 oz, 25 inches. 95% for weight and 75% for height. How is she so off the charts when my older boys are 50% or less? Bizzarre.

TracyDP
01-31-2008, 01:19 AM
4m Pediatrician visit for Ellie this week. It is actually closer to 5m though due to a really busy month for me. She is 15.6 lbs 26 in and in the 75th % for pretty much everything. All is going well and she has been extremely healthy (knocking on wood). One very minor case of the sniffles and that's it. Not even a bad diaper rash.

Here are a couple of pictures of her in her new high chair with her 2 favorite toys. Between these two toys I usually have time to clean the kitchen with her in there with me.

This is the "Flugalmawhatzit" that Daddy got her.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2202/2231762205_07e37b0114.jpg

This is the "Borg Duck" (Star Trek reference) that grandma got her. This is by far her favorite toy and I plan getting one for every baby shower I go to in the future. She LOVES it.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2284/2232552402_b6c48afd81.jpg

STTN: Ellie is on a roll! 5 nights and counting (minus one leaky diaper incident at 1:30am one night). The routine has emerged as follows:

(times are +/- 1/2 hour)

9:30pm - last bottle, usually 6oz
10pm - quiet time in nursery including naked baby time w/ massage and final diaper change, soft classical music and low light.
10:20 - Rocking to sleep w/ paci and favorite blanket (this usually works but occasionally we end up singing and quiet playing until she starts dozing off).
11pm - put down in co-sleeper
6am - DH changes her diaper before leaving for work
9am - up for the day

Only 1 of the 5 mornings she wanted to be fed at 6am and didn't go back to sleep after DH changed her, and the previous night she had fallen asleep before her last bottle so I wasn't surprized. I would still call 11pm-6am STTN. The sweetest mornings are the ones where DH changes DD and I sleep right through it. On the nights when I get 8-9 uninterupted hours of sleep I wake up feeling like I had too much to drink...my body isn't used to it!! :p

jodylovesscotty
01-31-2008, 05:34 AM
Zoë had her 4 month well visit on Monday. She is now 14lbs. 2 oz. and 24 inches long. She still is in the 50% percentile for everything except head size (which is much bigger 70%). She is doing well! We even started her on rice cereal on Monday and she loved it. She opens up for the spoon and even eats some of the cereal. My ped. said we could give it a few weeks then start with yellow vegetables. I read so many different things that I am torn. I have read not to start until 6 months, but if my ped. said go ahead I don't know why I shouldn't. I know things change, but he is a smart man (went to Harvard) and has been around the block (much older man) so I am sure he would not lead us astray. Just for fun, what is everyone's thoughts??????

hmbay
01-31-2008, 06:18 AM
jody--I'm waiting for six months. My ped said I could start Sabrina on rice cereal now at 4 months but neither of my boys could stand the stuff so I think I'll just wait until six and start with carrots like I did with them. Although I might buy a box and try it sooner--perhaps she would like the distraction and stop screaming at daddy so much during the day.

sabrespa
01-31-2008, 06:46 AM
I think it depends on the Ped. My doctor's office has 4 different peds, one doctor (younger fresh out of school) said I could go straight to babyfood at 4 or 5 months. The older doctor told me to start with rice cereal at 4 months.

Zach will be 5 months next week and I gave him some sweet potatoes mixed with cereal last night and he loved it. I think that if we suffered food allergies in our house then I might be more cautious about giving foods. I think it's a personal decision just like a lot of other things in parenting. I got a wild hair, decided to try it, if he has pushed it out with his tongue, refused it, I would have given up and tried again at 6 months.

emschwar
01-31-2008, 08:00 AM
Our ped wanted us to start Daniel on cereal as soon as he showed signs of interest because of his slow weight gain. We gave him a tiny bit a couple times this week, and he's neither repulsed or impressed with it. He doesn't hate it, but doesn't gobble it up either. We'll probably give him a little here and there, but not really do it daily until he's older and showing more interest.

Bucktown
01-31-2008, 09:05 AM
solids~ We started them on/off last week. I usually forget to try everyday due to 3 y/o. She's like em's DS, she'll eat it but not gobble it like I thought she would. Plus, I don't think she's getting the whole swallowing thing yet. She pushes it out with her tongue but tries to suck it off the spoon. We'll try some type of 'P' veggie or fruit in a couple weeks.

In other news~ DD had her hip u/s to rule out dysplasia. Thankfully the scan came back normal.

Question~ Anyone else's peds office have a shortage of HiB vaccine? Due to the recall we are on a waiting list. Does this screw up her schedule? What's the timeframe?

jodylovesscotty
01-31-2008, 10:13 AM
Bucktown~ Same here for the shots. We have to go back next month to get it. Even though the ones they had weren't recalled, they just wanted to be safe.

Kiley
01-31-2008, 11:31 AM
Solids - we're waiting until 6mo or later. Part for allergy reasons, part for there being no time ;), and part because he doesn't need anything else besides BM.

HiB - had no idea there was a recall (yikes!) but there was no shortage at my ped's office.

DisneyGirl
01-31-2008, 12:35 PM
HiB I had no idea there was a recall either..Why is there so many damn recalls lately. My Ped office didn't have a shortage.


Does anyone have any formula checks for Similac I could have????

solids I'll start them at 6months..but my ped said i could start cereal at 4 months.

hmbay
01-31-2008, 01:07 PM
Disney--let me dig through the mess on my desk. I know i have some--I just don't know if they are expired or not. If I have them I'll PM you and send them since I already have you address.

Anyone else interested--I might have Enfamil or Good Start coupons too I'm not using. Anyone wants just PM me and I'll mail you what I have.

DisneyGirl
01-31-2008, 01:09 PM
Hmbay Heather, Thanks so much for looking..I greatly appreciate it!

MarriedaGoalie
01-31-2008, 02:00 PM
Hey, I just wanted to drop in and let everyone know that I have a bunch of coupons for 1st and 2nd Gerber foods if anyone wants them. Carter doesn't eat those anymore, so I figured I could share them! PM me if you would like them. Most of them don't expire until the end of March or end of June.

Amuse Bouche
01-31-2008, 04:44 PM
I asked my ped about it at M's 4 month WBV and she said that we need good trunk control (which M has) and that we should start her on solids when she starts getting mad that she's not getting any of our food. She's really started to be interested in our food lately, but she hasn't gotten frustrated about it. Since I'm going back to work (tomorrow) I don't want to change too much up at once. I have been dipping my finger in liquids (juice from canned tomatoes, chicken broth) and giving her a little taste.

Bucktown
02-01-2008, 07:23 AM
DD slept through the night for the first time *ever*! Went down at 7pm and didn't make a peep till 6:30am! It was really nice but DS woke at 5:30am for the second day in a row and I don't know why.

We are getting buried here under snow. It's been snowing non-stop since 9am yesterday. I shoveled 4 times yesterday and it desperately needs it now. We're suppose to get another 1-3 inches before it stops. Crazy!

And a recent pic of DD:

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd127/Croceil9/IMG_2627_1.jpg?t=1201875572

Suzlywoozly
02-01-2008, 07:20 PM
HiB I had no idea there was a recall either..Why is there so many damn recalls lately. My Ped office didn't have a shortage.


Does anyone have any formula checks for Similac I could have????

solids I'll start them at 6months..but my ped said i could start cereal at 4 months.

PM your address. I think I have $8.00 worth.

TracyDP
02-02-2008, 12:54 AM
Solids: I am still not sure when I am going to start solids. Aside from a little bit of cereal in her bottle 2x a day I have not given her anything else. At her 4m ped appt. she suggested I try regular cereal spoon fed so I might do that soon. Maybe I'll try cereal just once a day in the evening...

I am going to visit my Mom for a week in early March, 2 days after DD turns 6m. I am somewhat inclined to wait until after that week long trip to start full time solids so I don't have to deal with solid food at the same time as all the craziness of traveling. DD has shown some interest in our food but not much so I don't really feel pressed to start yet.

DisneyGirl
02-02-2008, 03:07 PM
car seat question When is everyone thinking about making the transition from infant seat to a regular car seat(facing backwards of course)?

Jumperoo For those who have this toy is anyone else DC just too small for it still? I put ours together yesterday..put K in it and his damn feet don't touch the floor yet. I triple checked it to make sure it was on the lowest setting and it was. So, I guess I'll put it away for another month.

SUZ THANKS!

sabrespa
02-02-2008, 03:30 PM
carseat: We'll probably do it within the next month. My 1st son is nearing 39lbs so he's getting a carseat that can handle more weight and we'll put Zach in the Triumph.

emschwar
02-02-2008, 04:53 PM
car seat question When is everyone thinking about making the transition from infant seat to a regular car seat(facing backwards of course)?

Jumperoo For those who have this toy is anyone else DC just too small for it still? I put ours together yesterday..put K in it and his damn feet don't touch the floor yet. I triple checked it to make sure it was on the lowest setting and it was. So, I guess I'll put it away for another month.

SUZ THANKS!

Daniel has the safeseat, and it goes to 30 lbs. It'll be a while until he's too big for it.

Jumperoo - daniel had the same problem until recently. I stuck a thick book under his feet. :)

hmbay
02-02-2008, 05:05 PM
carseat--most likely this weekend. She's one inch away from the heigh limit on my old snugride and we have a spare Triumph in the garage from when we moved my oldest to a booster this summer. Just been too darn cold to be out in the car switching carseats around lately.

jumperoo--do you have it in the loop UNDER the number 1--I figured out setting 1 is actually the loop UNDER the number 1 so the number 1 can be seen above the seat. If you look closely there is no real "loop" for number 3 which made me realize that the setting is actually UNDER the number. Otherwise the phone book works--I had to do that with my old exersaucer for the boys.

anyone hit the 4.99 Gymbo sale last week? I spent money I didn't have but $100 later I have Sabrina completely outfitted for next winter if she isn't bigger than a 12-18 month. ;) I even picked up a winter coat regularily priced 59.50 for 4.99. :D

emschwar
02-02-2008, 06:25 PM
For those of you contemplating switching out of the infant seat, remember that your child hasn't outgrown the seat until their head is within 1" of the top of the seat. Leg length doesn't matter - all that matters is where their head is. Unless they've hit the weight limit, of course.

sabrespa
02-02-2008, 06:56 PM
Em~The only reason we're switching is because we are getting a Regent for Anthony and there isn't enough space with the snugride. Obviously we only have one row of seats in the back with all three carseats crammed in there.:rolleyes:

DisneyGirl
02-02-2008, 07:40 PM
hmbay Thanks so much for the nfo about the jumperoo!

EMS Thanks for the book tip! I told my DH what you said and he was like "DUH, why didn;t I think of that"?

emschwar
02-02-2008, 07:43 PM
Em~The only reason we're switching is because we are getting a Regent for Anthony and there isn't enough space with the snugride. Obviously we only have one row of seats in the back with all three carseats crammed in there.:rolleyes:

That would do it! The regent is a beast! I can't believe how big that seat is!

Bucktown
02-02-2008, 07:45 PM
car seat~ I'm not moving DD till it's springtime (unless she outgrows it beforehand of course). It's too darn cold for me to pull her in and out of the thing without a coat on. She's starting to dislike it but our backseat sunroof has her somewhat pre-occupied.

jumperoo~ I had one of those somewhere but can't remember where I put it. I did the phonebook thing too with #1. Good to know about the loop under the seat if I can find it again.


DH & I are suppose to be having an indoor date night tonight but it seems as if the Gods don't want us to hook up. Kids were to be in bed by 7:30, we'd have dinner and a movie and some lovin' BUT the grocery store was packed, kids weren't asleep till 8:15 and now DH is on a mad search for bottle liners for the advent disposible bottle (I've only got 3 left). Funny how the best layed plans never work out for us. :)

Anyone doing any superbowl parties tomorrow?

sabrespa
02-03-2008, 06:52 AM
Zach has started to scoot backwards. When I left the room he was on his blanket and when I returned a moment later he was hiding between the couches.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f393/sabre_01/IMG_0784.jpg

He's also rolling from front to back and is this close to rolling back to front. Still not tripod sitting but that's because he doesn't want to sit, he just wants to stand or scoot. That's all he's interested in right now.

TracyDP
02-03-2008, 06:45 PM
Sabrespa: Cute picture! Ellie is still staying where I put her but I can see that's going to change very soon. She does manage to travel across her blanket while she's playing under her playgym thing. I'll put her in the middle of it and come back 15 minutes later and she's off of it, but still on her back. Go figure.

car seat~ I'm not moving DD till it's springtime (unless she outgrows it beforehand of course). It's too darn cold for me to pull her in and out of the thing without a coat on. She's starting to dislike it but our backseat sunroof has her somewhat pre-occupied.

jumperoo~ I had one of those somewhere but can't remember where I put it. I did the phonebook thing too with #1. Good to know about the loop under the seat if I can find it again.



Ditto on the carseat. It rains here pretty much 24/7 until late April and it's a PITA to get her in and out of the reversable seat in the rain. It's also a PITA in general in my car since the seats sit back from the back door (I have a Honda Element). I'm tempted to go straight from the infant seat to front facing if she fits until she's over 20lbs but I know it's much safer to rear-face as long as possible.

Jumperoo: We have one and I put an old lap-desk we had laying around under it for her to push off of. Her toes just barely brush the floor but she can't push off yet. She measured 26 inches a her last ped appt.

QOTD the Evil TV: So, are any of the rest of you doing the unthinkable and letting your baby watch videos or TV? I was never a "No TV" nazi type, but I wanted to limit her exposure to regular TV, violence, commercials etc. I did however put her down under her play gym and while I was in the kitchen I heard her in there making happy noises so I went in and she was watching Wonder Pets very intently and smiling at it. So, I've gotten some videos from the library and right now we are watching Baby Babble and she's loving it, laughing and smiling. I think I will let her watch while I shower in the morning and get my breakfast. My mom is a spedial ed teacher and believes a small amount of videos isn't harmful and can be helpful with language and a sane mother. It's regular adult TV and kids TV with commercials that she recommends I keep Ellie away from. I guess our Star Trek fix every afternoon will have to be confined to her nap time now that she's really paying attention to what she watches.

Kiley
02-03-2008, 06:49 PM
Carseat - we just bought the new Graco Safeseat for L since I had a car accident and needed new carseats anyway. He had outgrown the Snugride about a month ago and was in a Marathon during the interim.

Jumperroo - don't own one

TV - my 2.5 year old watches some and I catch the baby watching but I'd never sit him in front of the TV and turn on a show just for him.

ETA: can't believe Zach is scooting already! Way to go!

emschwar
02-03-2008, 06:51 PM
TV - Daniel loves tv. I think that's why he likes the jumperoo so much - he can see the tv from it! With another kid in the house, who watches his fair share of tv, there's no way Daniel's going to escape watching it. Plus, in a few months, we'll start showing him Baby Signing Time.

ETA - Kiley - how are you liking the safeseat?

hmbay
02-04-2008, 08:14 AM
tv--unfortunately ours is on WAY too much for the older kiddos (yes too much even for them) and I've caught her watching it--she also likes DH's video games. ;)

DisneyGirl
02-04-2008, 08:41 AM
she also likes DH's video games. ;)

Oh you have one of those too??? :p

DisneyGirl
02-04-2008, 08:43 AM
Anyone doing any superbowl parties tomorrow?

Yup, we had a superbowl party with way too many kids under 4...;) My house is now a mess, but thats okay since the Giants won!!!

hmbay
02-04-2008, 08:44 AM
Oh you have one of those too??? :p

He should buy WOW an anniversary present since he spends more time with it than me. ;)

hmbay
02-04-2008, 08:44 AM
For those of you contemplating switching out of the infant seat, remember that your child hasn't outgrown the seat until their head is within 1" of the top of the seat. Leg length doesn't matter - all that matters is where their head is. Unless they've hit the weight limit, of course.

yep.--she's about 1-2 inches from the top. time to move her.

Taurus
02-04-2008, 09:20 AM
I am going to visit my Mom for a week in early March, 2 days after DD turns 6m. I am somewhat inclined to wait until after that week long trip to start full time solids so I don't have to deal with solid food at the same time as all the craziness of traveling.

This is a good plan! I remember doing a similar thing with DS1.

He should buy WOW an anniversary present since he spends more time with it than me. ;)

I just had to log on and say what a great chuckle this gave me this morning!

hmbay
02-04-2008, 10:35 AM
I just had to log on and say what a great chuckle this gave me this morning!

Glad to see I lightened up someone's Monday. ;)

Jess71903
02-04-2008, 01:48 PM
Carseat- we have a Safeseat too and have several inches and about 9lbs before he outgrows it, so it will be a while.

Solids- will try something in a few weeks when he is 6months. Not sure what to start with yet.

Gage is in his crib right now looking at his mobile and Ocean Wonders aquarium thing. He took him morning nap ON ME because he just would not go lay down by himself. I don't know what the deal is. He is usually really easy to put down but i tried 3 times and he cried (not just for a second) each time. I hope he goes to sleep this time!

teeth- Anybody got any? I see a little white spot on the top of Gage's gums. I was hoping he would be one of those that didn't get any until he was 9 months old, but no dice.

We go to Children's tomorrow for some urinary tests. I have been dreading this since he was born. We know that his bladder doesn't work just right and we are desperately hoping and praying that we don't have to catherize him (Stick a tube into his bladder to drain it every 3-4 hours). When he had the test in the NICU it showed that he didn't empty his bladder all the way, but there wasn't any backup into his kidneys so we have just been giving him a small dose of abx every day to prevent infection. We see the urologist Sat. so that's when we should know for sure. If we have to do this, it will more than likely be permanent. When the kid is old enough, he learns to do it himself. We would have to give him something to totally relax the bladder so he couldn't go on his own at all. My main concern isn't for now, but as he gets older and the social implications. Anyway, just say a little prayer for us tomorrow if you think about it!

Amuse Bouche
02-04-2008, 05:01 PM
Rolling etc. -- M is rolling from back to front (at least she has twice) and is scooching too, though she has yet to cover much distance.

TV: We have a total TV addict on our hands. She'll watch it if we have it on sometimes. We mostly watch cooking shows and such, so I don't worry too much. We'll actually let her watch specifically signing time and baby signing time, which she LOVES and it buys mom some time to pump or shower or something.

Teeth: None yet, but she's chewing on anything she can get into her mouth, so I'm thinking soonish.

Solids: I'm inclined to start her sooner rather than later as she's really taking an interest in our plates right now. I was going to start this coming weekend but we'll have a houseguest and I just started back to work, so I think we'll wait another week - she'll be almost 5 months, and she has great trunk control. I'm going to start with mashed bananas, then probably add avocados, sweet potatoes and applesauce and MAYBE rice cereal -- I haven't decided on the cereal.

Carseat -- yeah, she's nowhere near to outgrowing her snugride. I haven't even moved the straps into the top position yet. And at her 4 month WBV she weighed less than 12 lbs.

DisneyGirl
02-04-2008, 06:04 PM
teeth None here yet.

TracyDP
02-04-2008, 07:31 PM
Jess: I will certainly send a prayer your way! I can't imagine how it must feel to have all the uncertainty that Gage's condition is causing. My thoughts are with you and yours. I hope Gage is able to come out of this OK. The thought of your child being "different" is such a heart wrenching thing. I had NO idea how much I could love and want only good things for another being until I had Ellie.

All we have to deal with so far is Ellie wearing glasses pretty much for her whole future and even that has me worried about teasing in school. We had to take her in for an exam under anesthesia this morning to get her checked for pediatric glaucoma and that was probably the longest hour of my life waiting for the doc to come out. Luckily, so far she seems ok but they will probably repeat the exam in 3 months to make sure the pressure is still normal in her eye. I'm sitting here now with her on my lap sleeping off the anesthetic after devouring nearly 12oz of formula in 3 hours. Luckily she has tolerated it fairly well and has mostly just slept and ate since we got home.

Teeth: Soon, but none coming through yet. I think she is growing them and feels the itch of them inside her gums. She has started rubbing her knuckles against her gums HARD, and she loves anything rough on her mouth. She usually rubs and chews her bib, or my shirt, or her blanket on her gums. Her favorite new toy is a little "nubby" hedgehog teether I bought her for $1.50 at Khols the other day. And OMG the drool is EVERYWHERE! Yay!

Talking: Anyone else got a singer out there? When I sing to Ellie at night before bed she will look at me and go "ahhhh ahhhh ahhhh ahhhh" with each breath, just like she is singing along. It's distinctly different than the babble she does when talking. She knows the difference between talk and singing. She has just in the past 2 days started doing the spit bubble "B" sound with her lips. Yay! More drool!!

DisneyGirl
02-05-2008, 02:36 AM
Jess Thinking about you and Gage today & my thought are with.

jodylovesscotty
02-05-2008, 05:50 AM
Jess~ You and Gage are in my prayers!

We decided to start solids with Zoë. She loves the rice cereal. We tried squash last night and she didn't really care for it. Though I am not sure if she didn't care for it, or she didn't care for the way her dad fed her. We will wait a few days and try more.

sabrespa
02-05-2008, 05:59 AM
Jess~ Thinking of you guys.

Solids~ We tried them last week and he just isn't interested. I figure I'll try again next week or the next.

Bucktown
02-05-2008, 06:57 AM
jess~ Sending you prayers and good thoughts this morning.

Jess71903
02-05-2008, 01:11 PM
Thank you for all the thoughts and prayers guys. It really does mean a lot. We are home and Gage is happy. We didn't learn anything today and I spent the morning trying to read the nurses and techs doing the tests. There were 3 really...one where they put a catheter in and forced as much liquid in his bladder as they could before it started to leak out, measured the pressure and measured how much went in. They did tell us it was less than when he was born, which I thought was good since they told us his bladder was way too big then, but she acted like it wasn't a positive thing. The next was an ultrasound of his kidneys- I got no read on that guy at all. The last one they strapped him down completely, (which he HATED) and put a contrast dye into his bladder. They were looking to see if any of it refluxed into his kidneys and if he emptied his bladder. We didn't get a report on that one either, but by looking at the screen it didn't look like it was going the wrong way. I am pretty sure he didn't pee enough until after they stopped the test, at which point he hit the x-ray machine :rolleyes:. Me and Tony were both going "come on, son, PEE!"

We will find out Saturday what the results are. I have been on the verge of tears all day. In the grand scheme of things, this isn't really that big a deal, but it still makes me sad and worried. I just SO don't want to have to catheterize him!! I told Tony on the way home that I am probably one of the only moms on earth that thinks about and worries about her 5 month old's future sex life. I just hope there is a special girl out there somewhere that is perfectly fit for him and will love him enough to be able to look past any potential dysfunction.


He's just such a trooper. Tracy- you are right. I had no idea I could care so much about another person's wellbeing until I had Gage. He's such a normal baby. You would never know anything was wrong with him if you were to see us out, unless you happened to notice his shunt scar. He's just such a precious, happy, friendly baby.

jjohm
02-05-2008, 01:43 PM
jess: hoping you hear something soon about the test results and thinking good thoughts for Gage and his bladder.


we just got back from Alex's 4m checkup and he is 16.5 lbs and 26 inches long. height is 80th percentile and weight is 60th or so. so far everything is good, except for the darn eczema! doc recommended not doing hydrocortisone or benadryl until at least 6 months so we'll wait. i just bought some cetaphil from costco so we'll just slather that all over him every day. at least it's not on his face otherwise he'd probably be scratching the heck out of himself.

alex is rolling from back to front and can get his arm out after a little struggle. he's babbling and blowing bubbles and is just so smiley all the time.

carseat: he's starting to outgrow his infant seat and i'm so sad about that. we have a peg and his head hits the top of the sunshade when it's folded down. i love being able to plop the whole thing in the stoller so i don't have to wake him up when we're out and about. plus, DS1 is in a convertible seat and will be in it for a while yet.

solids: haven't started yet only because i'm lazy. when i do start, around 6m, i'll probably start with rice cereal and bananas mixed with formula.

oh yeah! we shaved his head:
http://files.blog-city.com/files/J04/60871/p/f/505461187503_0_alb.jpg
he looks like one of those kids in the chinese movies training to be a monk.

Jess71903
02-05-2008, 02:34 PM
jjohm- oh, he's so cute!!! Thank you for the well wishes. We really like the urologist and we will see him Saturday.

TracyDP
02-05-2008, 05:24 PM
I told Tony on the way home that I am probably one of the only moms on earth that thinks about and worries about her 5 month old's future sex life.

Actually, you're not. I worry about it too, just on a different level. I talk to DH about how badly I want to raise Ellie with a good body image and a healthy attitude towards sex. My Mom's attitude toward sex is pretty much that she would be fine if it didn't exist (or growing up she acted like it didn't exist), and she has a really really messed up relationship with her body. I won't elaborate, but being her daughter I also grew up with some unhealthy attitudes and feelings in that department. I have worked hard in my 36 years to overcome this and want to spare Ellie the same issues.

I just hope there is a special girl out there somewhere that is perfectly fit for him and will love him enough to be able to look past any potential dysfunction.

There is someone out there for everyone. I completely believe that. I hope to raise Ellie with that kind of open-mindedness and ablility to see people for what they are inside and not what they are physically. Have Gage look her up in 20 years :p

He's just such a trooper. Tracy- you are right. I had no idea I could care so much about another person's wellbeing until I had Gage. He's such a normal baby. You would never know anything was wrong with him if you were to see us out, unless you happened to notice his shunt scar. He's just such a precious, happy, friendly baby.

I have learned valuable lessons from my Mom who is a special ed teacher about seeing the beauty in every soul. We were in line behind a Mom and her baby at the grocery store one day and her little boy, about 6m old, had a huge red birth mark that covered almost half of his face. My Mom just looked that baby in the eyes and smiled at him and cooed and told him what a cute baby he was. That baby just about came out of the cart he was so excited and smiled and laughed. the Mom was paying for her groceries and she kind of lingered while we paid for our few things. She went up to my Mom and with tears in her eyes thanked her for treating her son like a regular baby and not a freak. It was obvious how much that meant to her. I try and follow her example when it comes to seeing inner beauty. I feel guilty sometimes that I get annoyed with people constantly coming up to tell me how cute Ellie is. I think it's because I know if she had a mal-formed arm or a huge birthmark or something they wouldn't say the same thing, but I would love her just as much. I almost hoped the glasses would de-cute her a bit but it has made her 10 times cuter! Go figure.

My favorite saying of my Mom is that everyone is handicapped in some way, it's just not obvious for everyone. Our invisible handicaps can hold us back even more than those that have obvious physical or mental handicaps becuase we can too easily pretend they aren't there.

hmbay
02-05-2008, 06:56 PM
Tracy--some wonderful things for us all to think about

Jess--hope the test results come back good for Gage.

jodylovesscotty
02-06-2008, 05:48 AM
Tracy~ What a wonderful, thoughtful, post. I am a special ed. teacher and it saddens me when others make fun of my students. They are deaf and all of a cochlear implant and others refer to them as "those hearing impaired kids". I wish nobody was ever treated this way.

Jess~ Hope you hear great news on Saturday!

jjohm~ Cute picture. Please tell me if this is a stupid question, but is shaving the head a tradition?

jjohm
02-06-2008, 07:37 AM
jody: not a stupid question at all. it is a tradition, but i don't know its origins. a lot of koreans (and other asians) do it to make the hair grow back thicker after the baby is 100 days old. i didn't do it for my first son, but with alex, his hair was falling out like crazy and getting all over the blankets, etc. and the remaining hair was looking like a mullet so that's why i decided to shave it off.

jess: thanks for sharing about your mom. sounds like ellie has a wonderful family.

i thought i'd post this since people were talking about feeding solids. so cute! i have no idea if it's that practical, but it seems like a good idea...especially when traveling.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/314FsWDebZL._AA280_.jpg
Product Description
The Squirt baby food dispensing spoon allows for convenient feeding, one bite at a time. The easy-to-fill bulb holds up to 3 ounces of baby food and attaches firmly to the spoon end. Simply squeeze the bulb to dispense just the right amount of food. Squirt comes with a protective cover to seal food in and keep the spoon clean between feedings. By combining the spoon and food container into one product, Squirt makes one-handed feeding a snap. Made of BPA-Free Plastic. Ages 4 mos. and up.
http://www.amazon.com/Boon-Squirt-Dispensing-Spoon-Orange/dp/B000WEHO76

Jess71903
02-06-2008, 09:33 AM
Tracy- that was a very thoughtful post and I really appreciate it. I am on OT and worked with kids with disabilities before quitting to stay home with Gage. It is so easy for me to see past the disability, but I know it's not as easy for others. I know Gage will grow up with a different perspective than most kids and for that I am thankful. I have also seen how cruel kids can be, though, and I think that's what I hope Gage is spared. I agree with you about all of us having a disability of some kind. My dad said that same thing before Gage was born. He said "you know some people have mental problems and some have physical problems. For some reason, those of us with mental problems feel sorry for those with physical problems." That's so true! He has battled depression for most of his life and honestly, I would rather Gage deal with his physical limitations instead of battle depression. Anyway, thank you all for your kind comments and thoughts. Gage is a happy, healthy baby boy. It helps to have others reaffirm that for me and help me realign my perspective!

DisneyGirl
02-06-2008, 11:11 AM
. I try and follow her example when it comes to seeing inner beauty. I feel guilty sometimes that I get annoyed with people constantly coming up to tell me how cute Ellie is. I think it's because I know if she had a mal-formed arm or a huge birthmark or something they wouldn't say the same thing, but I would love her just as much. I almost hoped the glasses would de-cute her a bit but it has made her 10 times cuter! Go figure.


Ya know, I am just so happy right now that someone wrote exactly what has always bothered me. Most of my friends/family think I am nuts when I get utterly and completly annoyed when people stop me in the malls, parking lots, banks I mean ANYWHERE to tell me how cute my DD is and they go on and on and on. And here is the biggest kicker they say nothing to either of my sons....that kills me too! I just don;t want my DD to get a EGO at the ripe age of three because people keep telling her she just soo pretty..yaddda yadda.

Jess I really hope that the test results come back with great news! Gage is such a lucky little man to have such great and loving parents.

Taurus
02-06-2008, 09:57 PM
Tracy-When DS1 got his glasses, the doctor said he was about to become a TRUE "baby magnet." Sounds like you have discovered how hard it is to get through a grocery store without several people stopping to admire the adorable glasses! Sometimes I think that DS1 is going to think that it is normal for every person in the world to stop and coo at him.

Here he is in his pair that change to sunglasses:

(Pic removed by me)

sabrespa
02-07-2008, 05:31 AM
Taurus! That picture is great, his expression cracks me up. He looks like one cool dude!


Zach turned 5 months yesterday and like clockwork, I think that co-sleeping is coming to an end. My other two kids got restless in bed with us at 5/6 months also. Zach doesn't like for us to touch him while he's sleeping and he likes to sleep with his arms straight out. So Tony and I are squished over on the edge of the bed so that he can stretch out and not be touched.

I think I'll try putting him in the pack n play for now. We have to find a big boy bed for DS1 first and then we'll move Zach into the crib.

((sigh)) They grow up so fast.

TracyDP
02-07-2008, 11:58 PM
Thank you Taurus, DisneyGirl, Jess71903, jjohm, jodylovesscotty, hmbay for your comments. I have an adopted sister with Cerebral Palsy and I grew up with a blind aunt and had a blind stepfather for 6 years so I have always been around people with disabilities. I really try to see the person inside.

DH has been having more of a problem dealing with Ellies potential sight problems than I have. I see it as such a minor thing that it just doesn't worry me that much. Having grown up with blindness around me I how much worse it could be than just having to wear glasses or maybe have a minor procedure done on one eye (only one eye is having issues). I guess I have sort of a "it could always be worse" attitude. Ellie had to go see a cardiologist too and everything turned out to be normal. Much better to be dealing with an eye problem than a heart problem! Besides, I have my own potential to lose my sight since macular degeneration runs in my family and my 93 year old Grandma is almost comletely blind now, as well as my Mom's sight getting progressively worse as she gets older. The opthomalogist said I should get Ellie a little pair of kids sunglasses to use because sun protection is the #1 best prevention of macular degeneration. Taurus: great idea with the Transitions lenses for DS's glasses. I will definitely do this when Ellie moves up to regular lenses!

TracyDP
02-08-2008, 12:05 AM
Taurus! That picture is great, his expression cracks me up. He looks like one cool dude!


Zach turned 5 months yesterday and like clockwork, I think that co-sleeping is coming to an end. My other two kids got restless in bed with us at 5/6 months also. Zach doesn't like for us to touch him while he's sleeping and he likes to sleep with his arms straight out. So Tony and I are squished over on the edge of the bed so that he can stretch out and not be touched.

I think I'll try putting him in the pack n play for now. We have to find a big boy bed for DS1 first and then we'll move Zach into the crib.

((sigh)) They grow up so fast.

I am going to put Ellie in her crib at bedtime for the first time tomorrow night since DH and I would like to have our bedroom back. She sleeps in her own co-sleeper not attached to our bed, but still...it would be nice not to have to be so quiet at night ;) She has taken to napping in her crib just fine (60-90 min usually), and we do our bedtime ritual in her nursery so she is used to being in there. Hopefully she will go through a minimal adjustment process. I enjoy my full nights sleep too much! I think that's why I've put off putting her in her own room so long. Kind of a "if it's not broke don't fix it" type thing. I think we will take the co-sleeper over to Grandma's once she is out of it for good. It will make a convenient place for her when Grandma takes her overnight :D

hmbay
02-08-2008, 08:13 AM
sleep--anyone else suddenly have a crappy sleeper? Sabrina was usually pretty good. The last two nights she has been up every 1-2 hours. I'm so exhausted today. :(

DisneyGirl
02-08-2008, 08:21 AM
sleep--anyone else suddenly have a crappy sleeper? Sabrina was usually pretty good. The last two nights she has been up every 1-2 hours. I'm so exhausted today. :(

I was just coming on to vent about this. I can not take being up at 4:30 Am everyday. Its killing me! BY the time I get him back to sleep its almost 7 AM then my other kids are up for the day...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

I went to bed last night at 8PM.

jodylovesscotty
02-08-2008, 08:42 AM
Zoë has slept through the night since she was a month old. However, last week she got up 3 times in the middle of the night. She didn't just talk, but was screaming. The only thing that helped was feeding her and she feel back asleep. She ate a whole extra bottle those days. Thank goodness it was just that week and she went back to normal. So I think she was just having a growth spurt. I was so tired and thanked my lucky stars then that she has slept through the night for such a long time.

Taurus
02-08-2008, 09:19 AM
sleep--anyone else suddenly have a crappy sleeper?

NO! We are finally getting some sleep!!!!!!!!! :) :) :)

Jess71903
02-08-2008, 09:30 AM
hmbay- I know we talked about that on LJ- Gage slept great last night. I decided that his partying the night before was because of teething. When he got really fussy last night before bed I gave him some tylanol and I think it helped!

Well I just got a call and Gage's appt. for tomorrow with the urologist is canceled. He had an emergency and can't come (He used to be a FT doc here then moved to Cincinnati. When his replacement left, he agreed to fly here 1 weekend a month to see kids here. he's wonderful!). So anyway, I guess we get a little bit of a reprieve. DH just wants to get it over with, but I would rather put it off.

2 Crazy Pugs
02-08-2008, 11:33 AM
Here is my Sophia, she is 5 months old.

IMG]http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd49/tracey323/sophiajan.jpg[/IMG]

2 Crazy Pugs
02-08-2008, 11:34 AM
<a href="http://s223.photobucket.com/albums/dd49/tracey323/?action=view&current=sophiajan.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd49/tracey323/sophiajan.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

2 Crazy Pugs
02-08-2008, 11:35 AM
Lets try this again!

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd49/tracey323/sophiajan.jpg

2 Crazy Pugs
02-08-2008, 11:36 AM
And this one is so cute. She has been doing some fit modeling for LL Bean (my DH works there) and she was trying on this pink cashmere sweater & hat and loved it!

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd49/tracey323/sophiallbean.jpg

jjohm
02-08-2008, 01:13 PM
sleep (or lack thereof): i.am.so.tired... what happened to waking up once a night at 3:00 am? we have gone backwards in progress. this week, i decided to start keeping him in his crib after doing the night feeding instead of bringing him into the bed with me (in his own room), however, now, he is waking up every few hours. he has no problems falling asleep, that's the easy part. at 4.5 months old, i am considering first feeding him formula at night - he is already getting it in the daytime, so we only nurse at night, but i'm hesitant to do that because then he wouldn't be getting hardly any bm. then second, i'm considering CIO because he also needs to learn to put himself back to sleep. i am so busy at work and my brain doesn't quite function right these days...

2crazypugs - Love those pics of Sophie! Cute dimples!

DisneyGirl
02-08-2008, 06:10 PM
Okay I think I found out why my baby boy has been the biggest crank pot...I looked in his mouth and what to I see?? yup, a tooth coming up!!!!! I was shocked since my other 2 did not get thier first until 9 months.

TracyDP
02-08-2008, 10:59 PM
sleep--anyone else suddenly have a crappy sleeper? Sabrina was usually pretty good. The last two nights she has been up every 1-2 hours. I'm so exhausted today. :(

Ellie was on an 8 or 9 day STTN streak until this past Monday when we had to feed her at 2:30am and get her up a couple hours early for her exam. I think between that and the stress and weirdness of the exam under anethesia she has been reverting a little with her sleep. Not exactly crappy, Just not STTN. She's back to waking once around 3am and instead of sleeping until 9am after DH changes her diaper at 5:30 she is up for the day at 7am. Hopefully things will get back to how they were. That week+ of STTN was like heaven.

She is in her crib tonight for the first time, but I put the blanket she's been sleeping on in the co-sleeper in her crib and she is in the same position (on her side) and all snuggly. Hopefully she will go back to sleep in there if she wakes up in the night. We'll see.

Suzlywoozly
02-10-2008, 05:07 PM
My little man sprouted two teeth this week!! He has been sleeping like crap for the last couple of weeks and I was starting to go insane. I laid him on our bed the other day and there was a tooth! The next morning I went to admire it and low and behold there was another one right next to it. I can't believe how fast he is growing up :(

TracyDP
02-10-2008, 05:55 PM
So, the crib sleeping seems to be going fine. 2 nights anyway. First night she woke up at 2am and a binky and repositioning did the trick until 6 for the morning diaper change, then up at 7:30 for the day. Last night she went down in the crib at 11pm and didn't even stir until....8:30! Yay! DH and I looked at each other when we woke up at 8 and asked if the other one had gotten up with her. Nope. Apparently DH got up at 6am and went in to make sure she was OK and see if she needed to be changed, but she was completely out so he went back to bed. I hope I hope I hope it stays this way...

Food: Well, we started peas yesterday on a whim. I was sorting out stuff in the pantry and found the 6 bottles of organic baby food I'd bought a while ago. So, I was bored and Ellie was in a good mood between nap and feedings and i was like...what the hell, let's give it a shot. She had NO interest in the cereal we tried a week ago, probably because it was just like a gooeyer version of what I give her in her bottle at night. The peas were a different story though! She was all over the peas, opening her mouth and reaching for the spoon. There was even a minimal amount spitting and she ate about a full teaspoon worth. We did it again for lunch today and it was the same thing, she enjoyed it. We will finish off the jar of peas then move on to the sweet potatoes. Once I figure out what she does/doesn't like I'll start making my own food and freezing it. So far the peas are a hit.

TracyDP
02-10-2008, 06:00 PM
And this one is so cute. She has been doing some fit modeling for LL Bean (my DH works there) and she was trying on this pink cashmere sweater & hat and loved it!


Mmmm cashmere....I wouldn't want to give the sweater back! I have those exact same grey cargo pants (wearing them at the moment actually) only um, much bigger!

Bucktown
02-10-2008, 06:40 PM
2 crazy~ That's an adorable outfit. Did they let you keep it? Though I suppose your DH gets a decent discount on the clothing, no?

Tracy~ I would bet you already know this but your post kinda leaves me guessing. When introducing new foods you should wait 5 days before starting a new one to make sure there is no reaction to the previous food.

Speaking of clothes, I went to Old Navy to buy clothes for DD (since I read here about the huge sale). I picked up a bunch of 6-12 mo stuff with a few 18-24 mo thinking eventually she'll be in them. Well, I tried on 2 of the one piece romper type things and THEY DON'T FIT! She looked like a stuffed sausage in them and the length was both in the arms and legs were both just a bit short. :confused: The label said 18-22 lbs and 27-??, and since she was within the range I figured they would work for awhile. Nope. I returned them and ran across to Children's Place since they seem to be more generous with their sizing. Bought a few 12 mo shirts and a few 18 mo. The darn 12 mo shirts fit her now with no room to grow. I've never had a problem with either of these places when DS was a baby/toddler. The only thing I can think of is that the peds office measured her incorrectly since she was screaming and twisting lying on the table.

Enfamil Coupon~ I have a $5 Enfamil rebate check (good for any Enfamil formula) valid until 4/30. PM me if interested.

TracyDP
02-11-2008, 12:21 AM
Tracy~ I would bet you already know this but your post kinda leaves me guessing. When introducing new foods you should wait 5 days before starting a new one to make sure there is no reaction to the previous food.

I do know this. I am only feeding her solids once a day right now and the peas are good for 3 days so I figure by then I'll know if she is going to have a reaction. When I move to the next one I'll feed it exclusively as well. I will be more careful with carrots when I start them since DH has a mild allergy to raw carrots.

Speaking of clothes, I went to Old Navy to buy clothes for DD (since I read here about the huge sale). I picked up a bunch of 6-12 mo stuff with a few 18-24 mo thinking eventually she'll be in them. Well, I tried on 2 of the one piece romper type things and THEY DON'T FIT! She looked like a stuffed sausage in them and the length was both in the arms and legs were both just a bit short. :confused:

I had a similar experience with Old Navy yesterday. I bought a bunch of 6-12m stuff and got home to find out that the pants and skirt I bought fit her perfectly right now. She's 5m...and it's cold and rainy still so summer stuff isn't going to help me much. This stuff was supposed to be for this summer! I am conisdering tomorrow going and exchanging the bottoms for 12-18m size. The shirts are still quite big though so I will be keeping those. Go figure.

2 Crazy Pugs
02-11-2008, 06:52 AM
BUcktown- no we didn't get to keep it, although they may give it to us eventually, since its considered a "sample"-

He does get a discount, although I don't really like the women's clothes there, so we don't buy much. Coats,snowsuits, things like that we do get there.

I think (knock on wood) Sophia is over her cold, thank god. She still has a little bit of a cough, but only in the morning. I am hoping she doesn't get sick again. She has been in daycare a little over a month, and has had 2 colds and the flu. Hopefully her immune system is in better shape now!

hmbay
02-11-2008, 07:44 AM
you guys are scaring me with your clothes sizing stories. I bought a TON of 12-18 month Gymbo stuff on the 4.99 sale hoping it would fit her fall/early winter since Gymbo often runs larger but she is also 75th% for height and 95th% for weight so I have a feeling I might be ebaying an entire winter wardrobe come August. :( I don't know why I didn't think to buy 18-24 month stuff instead.

Although just yesterday I pulled out an outfit my aunt bought her from hartstrings that I never put on her since it looked big--I put it on her yesterday and the onsie is snug, the pants are fine and the jacket I can barely squeeze her pudgy arms into. So sad as it was an adorable little floral velour jumpsuit and she never got to wear it. :(

emschwar
02-11-2008, 07:54 AM
I guess the only upside of having a little peanut right now is that I don't have to worry about buying clothes ahead. I would, except I have absolutely no idea what size he'll be come next fall! He STILL fits into his 0-3 month stuff!

Daniel is totally nuts about solids! LOVES them! He's had rice cereal and oatmeal, both of which he gobbles up. It's a challenge to feed him because he kicks his legs so much he frequently kicks my hand and the cereal goes everywhere! Last night we gave him some squash, and he liked that too. It's so foreign to me, since Noah refused every baby food except bananas (I'm not kidding - the only thing that kid ate was bananas and breastmilk).

DisneyGirl
02-11-2008, 08:19 AM
Clothing I went and bought a ton of things for K yesterday at the Old Navy sale. I bought 6-12 bottoms(shorts) & 12-18 tops. I find that most of there stuff small. Since K is so short I figured the 6-12 would work.

Teething K is not doing so well with this teeithing thing,,HEHEHEH. My other 2 kids never gave me such a problem..so my question is: What the heck can I do/give him????

weather Yeah, its 10 degrees here..Who else is freezing their %^^es off?????

DisneyGirl
02-11-2008, 08:28 AM
Suzly Thanks for the coupon!!!!!!!

Anyone making homemade baby food? I have been thinking about it.

Bucktown
02-11-2008, 08:38 AM
It's freezing here too & we have no heat. Waiting no the HVAC dude to show which is anywhere between 10-2pm. It's only 9:30 right now.

emschwar
02-11-2008, 08:51 AM
Teething K is not doing so well with this teeithing thing,,HEHEHEH. My other 2 kids never gave me such a problem..so my question is: What the heck can I do/give him????

weather Yeah, its 10 degrees here..Who else is freezing their %^^es off?????
For teething, I've heard good things about Boiron camilia (http://www.boironusa.com/products.aspx?pageid=14&pcat=49&pcat2=56&prodid=14). I bought some for Daniel, but haven't tried it yet, since we've got no teeth on the horizon.

And freezing here too! It was 17 out when I took Noah to school. Brrrr!

It's freezing here too & we have no heat. Waiting no the HVAC dude to show which is anywhere between 10-2pm. It's only 9:30 right now.
Oh man, that's awful! I hope they come closer to 10 than 2!

Bucktown
02-11-2008, 10:18 AM
It's pretty bad. They still aren't here yet & the news said it's -4 plus windchill. Not like I can take the kids somewhere or I'd miss the guy. We've been huddled upstairs but they are both getting very restless (and driving me crazy!). Common, HVAC dude!

Jess71903
02-11-2008, 10:34 AM
teething- we have one coming thru on the top. I keep meaning to find something to give him, but haven't yet. We have been sucking water up into his pacies and freezing them. It doesn't last long but he seems to like it.

food-I think I am going to try to make my own, too.

sleep- it seems like we are all having a little regression in this area. Maybe it's developmental. I sure hope so. Our biggest problem is getting him down. He will be out- sound asleep, but cries as soon as you put him down. He got up at 4am and wanted to eat. I just put him, to bed with me and we both fell asleep nursing.

jjohm
02-11-2008, 10:45 AM
We have been sucking water up into his pacies and freezing them.
what a neat idea - i never heard of that before!

hmbay
02-11-2008, 10:53 AM
weather-- it's -1 right now with a forecasted high of 5. We had -37 windchill yesterday.

Amuse Bouche
02-11-2008, 12:00 PM
Um, it's supposed to be 78 here today. We went wine tasting this weekend in the convertible.

DD has started taking super long naps (2-3 hours, from 30 minutes). I think it's the teeth.

TracyDP
02-11-2008, 12:09 PM
teething: I got a suggestion from a friend of mine for teething. She said both of her kids LOVED to chew on a refridgerated wet wash cloth! The cold and rough felt great on their gums. I left Ellie with the washcloth after feeding her peas the other day and when I came back from the bathroom she was chewing on it happily so I think there is something to it. She sticks her hand in her mouth and rubs her knuckles on her gums, so she was doing the same thing only with the washcloth over her hand. She also has a little "nubby hedgehog" teething ring that I got at Khols that she loves. It's supposed to help them get used to a toothbrush kind of feeling.

Homemade baby food: I want to make my own, but I'm starting her out on the little jars of organic food to see what she likes. I don't want to make up a batch of something just to find out she won't eat it. I am looking for a good book of making homemade baby food if anyone has suggestions.

Bucktown
02-11-2008, 12:14 PM
So, no-one would like that $5 Enfamil coupon???

DisneyGirl
02-11-2008, 12:19 PM
I am looking for a good book of making homemade baby food if anyone has suggestions.

I am also looking for a book...If you happen to find anything, please let me know. Thanks

Bucktown OH gosh, I feel so bad for you. I hope the Hvac guy comes quickly.

Hmbay Yikes!:eek: That freakin' cold!

Ems I'll have to look into tha stuff. Thanks for posting it.

Jess What a cool idea freezing the paci.
Did you get the results from Gage's test?

DisneyGirl
02-11-2008, 12:22 PM
So, no-one would like that $5 Enfamil coupon???

I think Suzly uses Enfamil. Though I could be way wrong.

If you get any Similac..I can use those.

ptcrn
02-11-2008, 01:08 PM
Disney, I have 3 $5 Similac checks if you want them. The earliest one expires March 16th.

I also have $18 worth of Nestle Good Start coupons if anyone needs them. I figured I'd try here first before posting in the formula check thread.

I'll be back later with an actual post!

jjohm
02-11-2008, 01:31 PM
Bucktown -I could use those!
Please and thanks!

Julie Chang
XXXX Court
Fairfax, VA

I'll edit to take down my address once you let me know you've copied it.

Jen309
02-11-2008, 01:55 PM
Hi everybody! I've been completely MIA, which I didn't expect since I SAH now, but I don't have much computer time anymore. When one boy goes down for a nap, the other wakes up, and so on and so on. Everything has been great though, and the experience of my first son really helped this time around (for those of you thinking of #2). He's still not STTN, but I'm not ready for CIO (which we did with #1). Since I'm not working, I can deal with a certain amount of sleep deprivation, and he's only up for an hour or less 1-2 times a night, so not such a big deal.

We're just starting solids now, he's had rice cereal and banana with no ill effects. For those of you looking for a good book, the most comprehensive is Super Baby Food by Ruth Yaron. It's focused on making your own, especially freezing things, and has recipes for toddler years too. It also has detailed descriptions of what foods to give when with how to prep and lots of charts to help you figure it all out.

For online resources there's www.wholesomebabyfood.com and there's a thread on here somewhere called "Anyone plan to make their own baby food" or something like that, I think started by Chefker (but I'm not sure exactly).

I haven't had time to read any of this thread yet, so I hope everyone's doing well... I'll try to get thru as much as I can!

emschwar
02-11-2008, 02:48 PM
jjohm - If I were you, I'd take your address down now. This is a public site, and anyone can see it. If you want to send her your address, send her a PM.

sabrespa
02-11-2008, 02:52 PM
Wow you all have been chatty the last couple of days.

teeth ~ nope

Solids ~ I've tried once a week for the past several weeks and he isn't interested. He's the first of my kids not to have any interest in solids.

Yesterday Zach rolled back to front. Pretty soon he'll learn that he can roll wherever he wants. Ack! He's growing too fast!

Bucktown
02-11-2008, 03:45 PM
i got it JJohm! Go ahead & take it down.

Suzlywoozly
02-11-2008, 05:29 PM
I think Suzly uses Enfamil. Though I could be way wrong.

If you get any Similac..I can use those.

Yep I do! Looks like someone beat me to it though. I know I have more similac checks floating around here somewhere. I could only find that one when I mailed it to you last week. When I find them I will send them your way :)

DisneyGirl
02-11-2008, 06:16 PM
Suzly My friend just gave me one Enfamil check..since I don't use it..I told her I would pass it on to a internet friend that does t..so its yours.
Putting it in the mail tomorrow.

jen Thanks for the baby food making book.


Ptc I PM'ed you my address...THANKS!

Suzlywoozly
02-11-2008, 07:57 PM
Thanks Disney!

TracyDP
02-11-2008, 11:21 PM
Teething: ok, so does sleep go down the crapper when they are teething? I have such an awesome sleeper on my hands that I hate to think it's going to be a fight to get her to sleep or to stay asleep while she's teething. I think it's on the verge since she is more and more interested in rubbing things on her gums, but nothing is peeking through yet. Tonight she got over-tired and was a screaming meemy from about 8pm until 15 minutes ago (10pm). I could tell she was exhausted, rubbing her eyes and getting the half mast sleepy eyes but then resuming the screaming! She was also really rubbing her mouth and when I gave her a cold washcloth to chew on she quieted down a bit but not enough to go to sleep. I don't know if it was the over-tiredness or her mouth bothering her but OMG it took forever to get her to sleep! Once she went out though, she went out hard and fast.

Does anyone know if they make some kind of teething pacifier? Something nubby that you can freeze, but more flat and easy to chew on? She wasn't interested in her binky but I could tell that if she had something with some texture to suck on it would be a big hit. The washcloth was a help though, I just dipped it in some icewater and let her suck and chew on it.

isign
02-12-2008, 05:50 AM
I thought I'd pop back in here and see how everyone's doing since I've been MIA for so long. I guess I'm technically an Aug mommy, but since I was a Sept due date, can I stay? :)

DS doesn't have any teeth coming through yet. He is getting ready to crawl, getting up on all 4s and rocking. We haven't mastered sitting up yet, he prefers to lean over and eat his toes, but will sit with a toy. He will be 6m next Wed, and that's so scary to me. Where did our time go?

jodylovesscotty
02-12-2008, 05:57 AM
Add me to list of babies sleeping badly. It has been 4 nights in a row now that Zoë has gotten up in the middle of the night. I keep trying to soothe her back to sleep but that isn't working and I need to give her a couple ounces of food to get her to go back to sleep. The bad thing is that the rest of the days eating is shot. She will only eat a little bit for her bottle when she gets up, then a regular bottle or two, then back to a small bottle. I tried making up for it during her last bottle (some of hte ounces she is missing) hoping that would help, but it hasn't. She is really big into rolling so I am not so sure that isn't it as well. She is still swaddled and is trying to move all over the place and can't. We don't want to unswaddle her yet because she still scratches her head because of her eczema (and I mean nasty scratches). I don't know what to do. I am at my whits end. Any advice????

jjohm
02-12-2008, 08:54 AM
jody: alex scratches like crazy too! it looks even worse because of his bald head. he mostly scratches the top of his head and his forehead. we're having to leave him unswaddled now because we have no blankets big enough. i tried large mittens but feel bad because then he can't suck his thumb. i have mittens with thumb holes but those are way too small.
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Jess71903
02-13-2008, 04:10 PM
Disney- thanks for asking about Gage's test. The appt got canceled by the doc and is rescheduled for next Sat.

Gage got shots today :(. He weighed 20lbs 4oz (90th %ile), 27" 75th%ile.

Bucktown
02-13-2008, 04:28 PM
Jess~ Sorry to hear about the appointment cancellation and for Gage and the shots. Poor guy. I hate it when DD has to get them. I'll hate it even more when DS has to get the measles vaccination, etc when entering kindergarten in 2 years. Yuck.


Does anyone have a info on how much solids/BM or FF our kids are suppose to have? Like a run down by month? I gave DD peaches yesterday and she ate 1/2 a container of STAGE 2 peaches mixed with rice cereal. Today she did the same and although she kept opening her mouth I don't want to over feed her.

DisneyGirl
02-13-2008, 04:47 PM
Jess Sorry to hear that Gage's apt. was cancelled. I feel really bad that you have to wait for the test results...I would be driving my self nuts by now. I hate waiting for important answers. Still have you guys in my thoughts.

isign
02-13-2008, 05:26 PM
Add me to the list of tiny babies. DS, at his 4 month appt, close to his 5m birthday, was not quite 14lbs and 24 3/4" long.

Jess - I'm so happy he's growing so well. I know that's a big concern to my friend whose ds also has SB.

I'm planning on making my own baby food too, starting next week when I can get the food processer from my mom. I'm starting with applesauce, well I'm buying that, and carrots (double checking on those since I know there's some discussion them). My mom suggested milky (BM) grits instead of cereal, which is a good idea.

Amuse Bouche
02-13-2008, 06:07 PM
Hey isign -- that sounds huge compared to my peanut. She was less than 12 lbs at her 4 month WBV (on her 4 month birthday) and she's been growing at the rate of about a pound a month or a little less.

Whoever suggested the cold wet washcloth for baby to chew on is a genius. DD loved it.

emschwar
02-13-2008, 06:17 PM
Does anyone have a info on how much solids/BM or FF our kids are suppose to have? Like a run down by month? I gave DD peaches yesterday and she ate 1/2 a container of STAGE 2 peaches mixed with rice cereal. Today she did the same and although she kept opening her mouth I don't want to over feed her.
I was wondering the same thing! Tonight at dinner, Daniel put away a small bowl of rice cereal and an entire container of stage 1 squash. We see the ped on friday, so I'll ask.

Hey isign -- that sounds huge compared to my peanut. She was less than 12 lbs at her 4 month WBV (on her 4 month birthday) and she's been growing at the rate of about a pound a month or a little less.
I was going to say the same thing! And your peanut is big compared to mine! Daniel was 11 lbs at 4 months, and I doubt he's that much bigger now. He goes in for a weight check friday, but we did a quick and dirty measure on the scale here (me+ baby then just me) and he's still coming in at about 11 lbs.

isign
02-13-2008, 09:18 PM
How big were both of your babies at birth? Austin was 6.08. It's nice to have some others in the peanut club. Our newphew, two months and 9 days older than Austin is over 8 pounds heavier. He started solids at 4 months, compared to us starting, well we haven't yet - waiting on 6 months. They get compared to each other alot, and I hear how tiny Austin is. The one thing his is, is MUCH more active and vocal.

Amuse Bouche
02-13-2008, 11:02 PM
M was over 8 lbs at birth, but since she lost almost a lb in the hospital and I had a 36 hour induced labor (on IV the whole time) I suspect that she was full of a lot of fluid. Still, she dropped precipitously in her growth curve between 2 weeks and 1 month, and has been holding on to 25th percentile since.

Bucktown -- that sounds like a lot. You don't want solids to replace BM or formula since they're more nutritionally complete. I think www.wholesomebaby.com is supposed to be a good link.

jodylovesscotty
02-14-2008, 05:42 AM
I have a list at home from my ped's. office about how much they are suppose to eat. I will post later this evening (when I get home from work). We tried Zoë on cereal and squash and sweet potatoes. She liked it, didn't love it. When we started her on them she stopped eating all of her bottles. Then for a week she didn't sleep through the night (as she has since she was a month old). So I read if they aren't ready for food it will mess with their sleep patterns. Low and behold we stopped feeding her solids on Monday and she started sleeping through the night again and eating all her bottles. I am going to wait another month or so and try it again.

Bucktown
02-14-2008, 07:41 AM
Interesting Jodylovesabout the sleep. DD had been sleeping really well up until 2 nights ago. She kept waking/crying, fall back asleep. How long did it take your DD from Monday to go back to STTN? The same night you stopped solids?

jodylovesscotty
02-14-2008, 09:09 AM
Bucktown~ Yep, the same night we didn't feed solids she slept through the night. I thought it was interesting as well. But I guess if she isn't ready then I won't push it. I would rather her sleep well then push to eat solids. We will try again next month when I am on spring break.

Jess71903
02-14-2008, 09:23 AM
jody- I am glad you said that. I have heard that people will wait if their babies don't "tolerate" solids well, but I never knew what that meant, really.

emschwar
02-14-2008, 01:19 PM
How big were both of your babies at birth? Austin was 6.08. It's nice to have some others in the peanut club. Our newphew, two months and 9 days older than Austin is over 8 pounds heavier. He started solids at 4 months, compared to us starting, well we haven't yet - waiting on 6 months. They get compared to each other alot, and I hear how tiny Austin is. The one thing his is, is MUCH more active and vocal.

Daniel was 6,13. He fell from 25th percentile for weight to less than 3rd from 2 months to 4 months though.

TracyDP
02-14-2008, 01:34 PM
Whoever suggested the cold wet washcloth for baby to chew on is a genius. DD loved it.

That would be me :) Thanks! I'm now in the market for a small terry cloth stuffed toy. I know they are out there, my friend has one she uses for teething.

Solids: I am feeding DD solids once a day right now (not counting her cereal bottles AM and PM). After 6m we will go to 2x a day for a week or so, then to 3. Hopefully this will help with any sleep or other problems. We just finished peas and I'm going to start sweet potatoes today. I have decided to avoid fruits for the first couple of months because I want DD to develop a taste for veggies more than the sweet of fruits. I've read a few places that it's a good way to help stave off the sweet tooth. It was also suggested to avoid juice until after a year old since there is no nutritional reason for it, or to cut it 50% with water and only use unsweetened juice.

Sleep: I haven't seen much difference in her sleep, not due to solids anyway. The main problems we've had have been my fault for letting her miss her afternoon nap and become an over-tired screaming meemy. We did CIO for the first time last night. I was at my wits end with her being fussy and cranky when I KNEW she was exhausted (rubbing eyes, sleepy-eyes when she'd calm down for a few minutes) and to avoid doing something I'd regret later I put her in her crib and let her scream while I did a little CIO of my own in the living room. After about 10 minutes she got quiet and slept for 45 minutes. It was enough to take the edge off and she was fine the rest of the night.

weight/size: Wow, my little peanut is a little piggy! She was only 5lbs 11oz at birth and at her 5m checkup was 15.6lbs and 26 inches. long and lean. She fits into some 0-3m pants but they look like capris! Pants that are long enough are too big in her waist.

Jen309
02-14-2008, 03:11 PM
For those of you whose babies are STTN, I have a question. Did they just start doing it on their own, or did you do something in particular to help? Once my DS is crying (even whiny crying) it just gets louder and louder til he's UP. Sometimes he can be settled (at night) with re-swaddling and shushing, but often he wants to eat which is an involved process (bbs first then bottle - supply probs). I am sooo looking forward to >4hrs at a time!

jjohm How is your #1 son doing with eczema? Mine is finally outgrowing it a bit... We are lucky with #2, as his is very very mild, usually only bad after a bath. But, I wanted to share a product that has worked well for us... The Aveeno soothing creamy baby wash. I got a sample from the doc and we wound up buying a bottle and we haven't had an after-bath outbreak since with either one. Hate to sound like an ad, but dealing with eczema sucks (yup, they got it from me), so I thought I'd share.

jjohm
02-14-2008, 05:55 PM
jen: DS#1's eczema is under control. he does have flare ups once in a while especially with the dry air in the winter. Alex's is nowhere near as bad as Ryan's was. thanks for the reco on the Aveeno. for a long time, i stayed away from anything with oatmeal because i thought he might be allergic to it, but we'll give it a try. (i remember the days when i spend $$$ on all kinds of lotions and creams just trying to find anything that would cure him).

sleep: we are beginning sleep training. i can't start with naps like HSHHC recommends because MIL watches him while i work. this evening, alex was so tired but was really fussy so i just laid him down in the crib and went downstairs for dinner. i turned the sound way low but DS1 wanted to play with it and kept turning the sound on and whining "baby, baby". i was trying my darndest to ignore the crying for a few minutes and DS1 did not help at all. after 10 min (not bad in my opinion), he rolled over onto his stomach and fell asleep. i'm going to try really hard to give him a few minutes to settle down by himself when he fusses at 9 and 12. my plan is to feed him at 2 or 3am only. we'll see!

sabrespa
02-14-2008, 06:04 PM
Sleep~ We used a pacifier. Every time he woke during the night we'd give him his paci over and over. He doze off and then wake up again 30 minutes later. It took about 3 nights of that for him to figure it out. In a few more weeks I plan to start sleep training for his naps. He only takes about three 30 minutes naps a day.

Bucktown
02-14-2008, 06:54 PM
Well, I'm guessing solids isn't our issue with sleep. No solids today & she just woke up after only 50 minutes of sleep. I let her CIO for 10 minutes then went up and plugged the paci in. Must be developmental.

jjohm
02-14-2008, 07:56 PM
it's now 10pm and he hasn't woken up yet ----i'm crossing my fingers!

emschwar
02-14-2008, 10:06 PM
sleep - I'm getting ready to sleep train daniel. Unfortunately, he's not. He STILL has to be swaddled to sleep, and doesn't seem to be ready to give it up anytime soon. I'm ready for him to learn to go to sleep on his own, but I don't think it's realistic to expect him to be sleep trained when he still has to be swaddled. Sigh. We ST'ed Noah at 4 months, and while it SUCKED while we were doing it, it was honestly the best thing we ever did. Since then he has always been fantastic at going to sleep.

jjohm
02-15-2008, 09:36 AM
last night, i was so tired that i passed out right after 10pm and did not hear Alex cry at midnight. i neglected to tell DH anything, and he went ahead and gave him a 4 oz bottle then, figuring i needed to sleep. we'll try again tonight and this time, i will share my plans with DH.

hope everyone had a good valentines day!

bucktown, thanks for the coupons!!

jodylovesscotty
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