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Brandles
09-11-2007, 12:05 PM
Which one is gramatically correct and why?

"He dived for the football."

OR

"He dove for the football."

And why? Thanks! :)

msnicolea
09-11-2007, 12:13 PM
Actually, I think they are both ok--I looked on Encarta:

Both forms are acceptable as past tenses of dive. Dived is actually an earlier past tense form, but dove has become a standard alternative. This is the reverse of the general tendency of verbs to form their past tense with -ed, as opposed to a change in their vowel, which was more frequently the case in the Old English period. The past participle is nonetheless dived.

I guess I would use dove, as I think more people would consider that correct.

imagirliegirl
09-11-2007, 12:38 PM
I would use dove because I think it sounds better. Something just looks/sounds off about dived.

Happy1
09-11-2007, 01:05 PM
I also agree that I would use "dove" because it sounds better.

Nikki :D

Nigellas
09-11-2007, 01:31 PM
Dove.
:)

Standrea
09-11-2007, 01:35 PM
I think Dove sounds better too!

jajacobsen
09-11-2007, 01:46 PM
In the English language, it's hard to say "why" to a lot of grammar issues because English is such a mish-mash of Germanic languages with a a strong Roman influence. There are huge exceptions to every rule. Sometimes past tense of a verb is signified with a vowel change (i to o) and sometimes it is indicated with the addition of "ed" on the end of the verb.

I would use "dove."


Current tense: dive. Past tense - dove

Current tense: drive. Past tense - drove (no one says "drived")

Current tense: Live Past tense - Lived - not love.

???????????

So no clear "rule" You just have to learn each one. That is why English is such a hard language to learn.

phoenics
09-11-2007, 03:21 PM
It's 'dove'. I don't believe 'dived' is even a word, is it? It's not the past tense form of 'dive'.

tlew12778
09-11-2007, 04:17 PM
Dived exists for present perfect --

I have dived off the Great Barrier Reef.
I have dived off cliffs.

Weddings by
09-11-2007, 04:20 PM
I thought of the bird when I read the thread title. :D

villanelle75
09-11-2007, 04:24 PM
Interestingly (at least, to me), I say, "He dove in Mexico, " but, "He scuba dived in Mexico." "Scuba dived" just sounds so much better than "scuba dove", even when using it in conjugations where I'd use "dove" rather than "dived".

MsPeachy
09-12-2007, 09:45 AM
How about "lighted" vs "lit" ?

I was reading the other day and there was a sentence "The candles were lighted." And all I could think was that it should have been "lit" :confused

Or "swam" v. "swum"

jajacobsen
09-12-2007, 11:57 AM
Swam is past tense. Swum is present perfect.

"We swam around the lake. We have swum this route many times."

In the sentence above, I think it should be lit. "The candles were lit with care. She has lighted them every night this week."

AmyE
09-12-2007, 12:19 PM
My head hurts....

What's amazing is that so many people in this world still want to learn English!:o

tlew12778
09-12-2007, 03:46 PM
Isn't the present perfect of "to light" "has lit"?

villanelle75
09-12-2007, 04:02 PM
I thought "lit" was the past tense of "to light" and "lighted" was an adjective, but I could be way off on that. "When she lit the candles, the room was lighted enough to read in."

Kimberland30
09-12-2007, 06:43 PM
This very thread reminds me of why I failed English. :o

j*east
09-12-2007, 07:26 PM
One of my students pointed out that in the British Harry Potter books, Harry "dived" into the bushes (early in Book 5, I think). In the US version, he "dove."

Any Brits care to weigh in?

tlew12778
09-13-2007, 04:10 AM
Actually I was going to point out that they use the perfect tenses a lot more in the UK.

The past continuous of "to light" is lit.

For "to dive":
past simple: dived or dove (apparently it is irregular)
participle: dived (present perfect = has dived, past perfect = had dived)
past continuous: dove

MrsBeckyLP
09-13-2007, 12:06 PM
Just another viewpoint here. AP style says "dive, dived, diving; Not dove for the past tense."

skyblu
09-14-2007, 09:06 AM
I'm a scuba diver and always say "dived". I also learned English in Britain, so maybe that has to do with it?

joanne511
09-15-2007, 11:13 PM
I tend to say "dove" but I'm sure I've said "dived" before too. For some reason dove sounds more correct to my ear in many instances.