View Full Version : Is It "Dived" or "Dove" and Why?
09-11-2007, 12:05 PM
Which one is gramatically correct and why?
"He dived for the football."
"He dove for the football."
And why? Thanks! :)
09-11-2007, 12:13 PM
Actually, I think they are both ok--I looked on Encarta:
Both forms are acceptable as past tenses of dive. Dived is actually an earlier past tense form, but dove has become a standard alternative. This is the reverse of the general tendency of verbs to form their past tense with -ed, as opposed to a change in their vowel, which was more frequently the case in the Old English period. The past participle is nonetheless dived.
I guess I would use dove, as I think more people would consider that correct.
09-11-2007, 12:38 PM
I would use dove because I think it sounds better. Something just looks/sounds off about dived.
09-11-2007, 01:05 PM
I also agree that I would use "dove" because it sounds better.
09-11-2007, 01:31 PM
09-11-2007, 01:35 PM
I think Dove sounds better too!
09-11-2007, 01:46 PM
In the English language, it's hard to say "why" to a lot of grammar issues because English is such a mish-mash of Germanic languages with a a strong Roman influence. There are huge exceptions to every rule. Sometimes past tense of a verb is signified with a vowel change (i to o) and sometimes it is indicated with the addition of "ed" on the end of the verb.
I would use "dove."
Current tense: dive. Past tense - dove
Current tense: drive. Past tense - drove (no one says "drived")
Current tense: Live Past tense - Lived - not love.
So no clear "rule" You just have to learn each one. That is why English is such a hard language to learn.
09-11-2007, 03:21 PM
It's 'dove'. I don't believe 'dived' is even a word, is it? It's not the past tense form of 'dive'.
09-11-2007, 04:17 PM
Dived exists for present perfect --
I have dived off the Great Barrier Reef.
I have dived off cliffs.
09-11-2007, 04:20 PM
I thought of the bird when I read the thread title. :D
09-11-2007, 04:24 PM
Interestingly (at least, to me), I say, "He dove in Mexico, " but, "He scuba dived in Mexico." "Scuba dived" just sounds so much better than "scuba dove", even when using it in conjugations where I'd use "dove" rather than "dived".
09-12-2007, 09:45 AM
How about "lighted" vs "lit" ?
I was reading the other day and there was a sentence "The candles were lighted." And all I could think was that it should have been "lit" :confused
Or "swam" v. "swum"
09-12-2007, 11:57 AM
Swam is past tense. Swum is present perfect.
"We swam around the lake. We have swum this route many times."
In the sentence above, I think it should be lit. "The candles were lit with care. She has lighted them every night this week."
My head hurts....
What's amazing is that so many people in this world still want to learn English!:o
09-12-2007, 03:46 PM
Isn't the present perfect of "to light" "has lit"?
09-12-2007, 04:02 PM
I thought "lit" was the past tense of "to light" and "lighted" was an adjective, but I could be way off on that. "When she lit the candles, the room was lighted enough to read in."
09-12-2007, 06:43 PM
This very thread reminds me of why I failed English. :o
09-12-2007, 07:26 PM
One of my students pointed out that in the British Harry Potter books, Harry "dived" into the bushes (early in Book 5, I think). In the US version, he "dove."
Any Brits care to weigh in?
09-13-2007, 04:10 AM
Actually I was going to point out that they use the perfect tenses a lot more in the UK.
The past continuous of "to light" is lit.
For "to dive":
past simple: dived or dove (apparently it is irregular)
participle: dived (present perfect = has dived, past perfect = had dived)
past continuous: dove
09-13-2007, 12:06 PM
Just another viewpoint here. AP style says "dive, dived, diving; Not dove for the past tense."
09-14-2007, 09:06 AM
I'm a scuba diver and always say "dived". I also learned English in Britain, so maybe that has to do with it?
09-15-2007, 11:13 PM
I tend to say "dove" but I'm sure I've said "dived" before too. For some reason dove sounds more correct to my ear in many instances.
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