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MLA
05-25-2007, 07:52 PM
This story made my stomach turn. The picture's especially disturbing.

From CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/05/25/monster.pig.ap/index.html)
MONTGOMERY, Alabama (AP) -- Hogzilla is being made into a horror movie. But the sequel may be even bigger: Meet Monster Pig.

An 11-year-old boy used a pistol to kill a wild hog his father says weighed a staggering 1,051 pounds and measured 9 feet 4, from the tip of its snout to the base of its tail. Think hams as big as car tires.

If the claims are accurate, Jamison Stone's trophy boar would be bigger than Hogzilla, the famed wild hog that grew to seemingly mythical proportions after being killed in South Georgia in 2004.

Hogzilla originally was thought to weigh 1,000 pounds and measure 12 feet long. National Geographic experts who unearthed its remains believe the animal actually weighed about 800 pounds and was 8 feet long.

Regardless of the comparison, Jamison is reveling in the attention over his pig.

"It feels really good," Jamison said. "It's a good accomplishment. I probably won't ever kill anything else that big."

Jamison, who killed his first deer at age 5, was hunting with father Mike Stone and two guides in east Alabama on May 3 when he bagged Monster Pig. He said he shot the huge animal eight times with a .50-caliber revolver and chased it for three hours through hilly woods before finishing it off with a point-blank shot.


Bolding mine. WTF? That's seriously messed up.

And I was really disturbed by the fact that it took him 3 hours to kill this poor pig. Disgusting, especially because later on the article states that

His father said that, just to be extra safe, he and the guides had high-powered rifles aimed and ready to fire in case the beast, with 5-inch tusks, decided to charge.

So his father and the other guys with him could have killed the animal more quickly and put it out of its misery, but they just sat back and watched so the boy could have some sort of "experience"?!? It just makes me so angry!

Leilynne
05-25-2007, 08:43 PM
I have mixed feelings. I don't have a problem with hunting to provide food, clothing, or shelter, or to protects one's family, but I do believe that hunting for sport or for the thrill of killing is wrong. So while I was glad to read that the boar is being eaten, it seems this boy is being taught to hunt for the thrill. It's very sad that the father allowed the animal to suffer like that. When my grandfather taught someone to hunt, if the student didn't take the animal out with the first shot then he finished it off himself. He also taught us that you respect what you kill, mounting a beasts head doesn't show respect it says "Look at me I killed that", which is not what real hunting (as opposed to sport hunting) is about. Also why on earth was the boy doing any kind of hunting with a revolver??

nettreefrog
05-25-2007, 09:01 PM
I agree with you MLA -- This is horrible. Further, CNN should be ashamed of itself -- glamorizing the innocent shooting of an innocent animal.

MLA
05-26-2007, 06:45 AM
I don't have a problem with hunting to provide food, clothing, or shelter, or to protects one's family, but I do believe that hunting for sport or for the thrill of killing is wrong.

That's the way I see it. This boy's being taught that killing's fun. It's just sick.

And netteefrog, I agree w/you about CNN. I was disturbed by the whole tone of the story.

jajacobsen
05-26-2007, 07:34 AM
I agree completely with teh PPs.

My husband does hunt from time to time, and prior to taking on home renovations every waking minute for the past two years, was an avid hunter. His opinion, and I agree, that an animal that is shot in the wild has a much, much better quality of life up until the minute it it dies, than any animal in our curren factory farm situation.

However, he only takes a shot if he knows it wil br a good, clean shot and a swift kill. He will not shoot if he is uncertin of his ability to quickly finish teh job. He believes it is immoral to let an animal suffer or even worse, injure or maim it without killing it. He's definitely "old school" in that regard and i respect his opinions.

That is so NOT what happened in that news story. It was cruel and barbaric and makes me sick. Even worse, it's on the front page of the Atlanta Journal and Constitution today. Aaaaccckkk!

I do not enjoy hunting, have never hunted and before DH and I married was a vegetarian. However, I was probably not the healthiest vegetarian, so I do eat some meat now. I know I could have been healthier as a vegetarian but I never seemed to follwo through with al the steps. Likewise, it seems cooking two sets of meals now (spaghetti with meat sauce and just plain red sauce, vegetarian and meat lasagna, etc) is too much trouble (for me, I know I'm a slacker).

Meat from the grocery store doesn't grow on a "shrink wrap" tree and teh conditions thos eanimals are in are not very good either. So in many ways, I think responsible hunting is not a bad thing. Hunters often are pretty avid environmentalists and nature conservationists (DH and his hunting buddies are) and I have a lot of respect for that.

But that kid and his parents? Sick.

wendalah
05-26-2007, 11:17 AM
Gross. Another thing sort of along these lines that I have a problem with is sport fishing. Great, let's go out into the ocean and torment some huge fish who's probably been alive for decades, just so we can finally exhaust him and reel him in and say "I caught this 200-pounder!" Or whatever.

MLA
05-26-2007, 11:43 AM
Gross. Another thing sort of along these lines that I have a problem with is sport fishing. Great, let's go out into the ocean and torment some huge fish who's probably been alive for decades, just so we can finally exhaust him and reel him in and say "I caught this 200-pounder!" Or whatever.

Yeah. Any sort of killing for sport is just messed up.

Delta
05-26-2007, 01:56 PM
Sick.

Delta
05-26-2007, 01:59 PM
I dunno. I think it looks kind of fake.

http://img.breitbart.com/images/2007/5/25/D8PBKB5G0/D8PBKB5G0.jpg

PinkMartini
05-26-2007, 03:12 PM
Great, let's go out into the ocean and torment some huge fish who's probably been alive for decades, just so we can finally exhaust him and reel him in and say "I caught this 200-pounder!" Or whatever.

ITA! My DH always gets pissed off when he sees something huge killed (like that bear up in AK a few years ago)...

lml41981
05-26-2007, 03:25 PM
I dunno. I think it looks kind of fake.
I agree... And that's the speculation of some other folks on another board I go to. I'm led to believe it is fake based on my opinion (which isn't expert) that the photo looks fake and that the weight was said to be 1051 and then they backtracked and said it was probably really 1060 when the owner of the scale said, "My scale only reads to the nearest 10 pound."

imagirliegirl
05-27-2007, 12:16 PM
An 11-year-old boy used a pistol to kill a wild hog his father says weighed a staggering 1,051 pounds and measured 9 feet 4, from the tip of its snout to the base of its tail.

So they are trying to say that the big ass hog in that picture was killed with a pistol? Um...

SingleWhiteFemale
05-28-2007, 07:57 AM
That picture posted above... it seems like they're playing with perspective a bit. I think the kid is standing/kneeling a distance behind the hog, here's a better (yet disturbing, it is the hog hanging by his back hoof) picture (http://www.annistonstar.com/www/as/images/bigpig2.jpg) that shows the size of the animal.

Niobe
05-29-2007, 01:06 AM
Both photos look fake to me. Definitely like the perspective is being played with - like the way the Hobbits were made smaller in LOTR, or Hagrid is made bigger in the Harry Potter movies.

JamBray
05-30-2007, 11:39 AM
Both of those pics look fake to me as well, and look as though they were Photoshopped.

t3h_wookiee
05-30-2007, 07:32 PM
I'm inclined to believe it's real. Wild boars easily get that huge, as several boars at the pig farm my DH worked at got bigger than that.

Oh, and the boar wasn't shot with a pistol. He was shot 8 times with a .50 caliber revolver! Those things are huge! They could easily take down a boar. DH used a .22 caliber pistol to kill the seriously injured ones at the farm.

The first picture looks a bit weird, but I think it's a perspective thing. The second picture looks perfectly legit.

KGif
06-01-2007, 08:05 AM
According to Snopes the jury is still out on this one ....

http://www.snopes.com/photos/animals/hogzilla.asp

jesvet
06-02-2007, 08:39 PM
Did anyone see the latest? He wasn't even wild, he was a farm raised pig that got sold to a hunting preserve. Probably very trustful of humans, and his name was Fred.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/06/02/monster.pig.ap/index.html

Thinking of his death....I am thoroughly nauseated.

Leilynne
06-02-2007, 09:03 PM
While I have my issues with how the pig was killed I'm completly apalled by some of the comments posted on the boys website. There are death threats, insults about his weight, profanity laced tirades, wishes for the boy to rot in hell, one said she hopes that he is "torrmented for life", many call him a murderer, two or three imply that he is one step away from shooting up his school, and one suggests that he shoot his father first. The boy is 11 years old, at this point he is relying heavily on what he is being taught by his parents to determine what is appropriate or acceptable, people who are angry should be angry at them not at a child. I just can't believe that someone would send a death threat to an 11 year old.

jesvet
06-02-2007, 09:31 PM
That's inexcusable as well. I agree totally.

MLA
06-03-2007, 09:33 AM
Did anyone see the latest? He wasn't even wild, he was a farm raised pig that got sold to a hunting preserve. Probably very trustful of humans, and his name was Fred.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/06/02/monster.pig.ap/index.html

Thinking of his death....I am thoroughly nauseated.

Oh, jesvet, I'm sick to my stomach reading that. It's so very, very sad.
Rest in Peace, Fred. :(


The boy is 11 years old, at this point he is relying heavily on what he is being taught by his parents to determine what is appropriate or acceptable, people who are angry should be angry at them not at a child. I just can't believe that someone would send a death threat to an 11 year old.
You're completely right Leilynne. His parents should be ashamed. He's just a product of their f-d up ways.