The CC ER thread

[skyblu]

I'm liking the love thing between Sam and the new male nurse (who's a total hottie, BTW). She for once seems happy and relaxed. It always annoyed me how uptight she was when she was with Luka. I was like, Girl, you have this hunka chunka man and you always look like you're smelling a turd? I'm glad to see her more human with the nurse guy.

By the way, did you guys see when someone asked this new nurse guy for the key to the narcotics, and he was acting all forgetful, something like, "Oh yes, I have them. I must have forgotten to put them back, my bad!" He sounded like he protested too much. Maybe they're setting it up for him to be a druggie?

[MsRo]

By the way, did you guys see when someone asked this new nurse guy for the key to the narcotics, and he was acting all forgetful, something like, "Oh yes, I have them. I must have forgotten to put them back, my bad!" He sounded like he protested too much. Maybe they're setting it up for him to be a druggie?

I did see that and have the same suspicions. And being a traveling nurse (or whatever it was) would lend itself nicely to that storyline, as well.

[mrs_pell]

Damn! I didn't realize it was new last week and missed it! I wish NBC put their shows online like ABC does. :(

[maplekitty]

wow the end of last night show was awesome!
the fire, the mom, the stalker...oh my! :D

[maxandmolly]

Luka is leaving? Noooooooooo.....................

[PinkMartini]

Last night's show seems like a season finale to me... And they didn't show previews for next week... It isn't a season finale, right? :eek:

[maxandmolly]

I assumed it was their big build up to sweeps-type finale show.

[1_mommy]

wait, luka is leaving? what? when did this happen?

[Ericka_Jarett]

Tonight's episode was pretty good (for what I got to see of it with a non sleepy baby), a tad bit predictable though that Ames would finally be off the show.

The previews for next week show something that every ER fan should see they said. Maybe Luka since his hand has been crushed in that vice.

I have watched this show since that first episode, although took about a season or 2 off, but have since seen those missed episodes on TNT during the day, since they are now at the point where Dr Greene was beat up in the bathroom.

[cari2]

Ericka - I missed the episode and with all the talk of Goran leaving was so scared he'd be killed off! Would you mind doing a little recap? I couldn't find anything online. Thanks!

Ps. I think the year after I had my girls I must have seen every episode of ER twice on TNT....

[Ericka_Jarett]

Well, at least our minds can rest with Kovac, I just saw the description for the next 2 weeks and he is listed as helping patients.

Recap for how much I saw and then hubby filled me in on as well:

Abby was in the apartment with Joey and Ames was sitting in the chair. He tells her to call Kovac, she says I tried and I have no idea where he is. He ended up showing a gun and said call him now. She finally gets him, he is at the jail I guess trying to find out more on the whole Pratt thing, since Pratt is in jail. Ames is on the other line while Abby talks to Kovac and says please come home now, we need you, please come home. Finally Kovac comes home (didn't see the actual part here:) but Ames takes Kovac from the apartment and ends up hitting Kovac with the butt of his gun I think it was.

Pratt is still in jail and his jailmates question him while he is there.

Sam is in the apartment trying to get Alex, as the rest of the apartment is evacuated due to the fire, spreading through the building.

(fast forward a bit here since I missed at least 20 mins of the show: Ames gets Kovac back to Ames' home, he has Kovac's hand in a vice and kicks it, thus breaking bones in Kovac's hand, asking him how it feels. They are on the roof and Ames is waving the gun around as the cops are down below and helicopters above. They pick up the cell phone and it's on speaker, talking is going back and forth and after a few, there are 2 gun shots, everyone thinks the worst and the officers on the roof, charge through the door and find out who died. Abby is down on the street and is nerves, until finally she sees the officers walk out the front door with Kovac. She runs past the officer and grabs Kovac into an embrace. They show Ames on the roof with the officers surrounding him, he has been shot in the right side of the head.

Pratt is still in jail and his jailmates question him while he is there.

Sam is in the apartment, as the rest of the apartment is evacuated due to the fire, spreading through the building.

Sarah and her mom have been found by Tony and Neela - they discover what drugs she took and try to work on her, she tells Tony that Sarah is his. They get her to the hospital and they keep trying to get her heart started, so while Tony is doing compressions, Sarah comes into the room and tells her mom that she can make it and such. Well her mom passes away.

All I can say is I am glad Ames is finally gone, he was driving me crazy with his stalking.

This is a recap from TitanTV.com for last night - A desperate Ames (Forest Whitaker) steps up his quest for revenge against Kovac while Abby relentlessly tries to protect her family. At County, Sam has unsettling suspicions about the cause of the fire that set her home ablaze. As Sarah looks on, Gates and Neela attempt to resuscitate an unconscious Meg (Paula Malcomson). Stuck in holding, Pratt has time to ponder his situation and his future.

This is for next week (Dying is Easy)- With Pratt defending his work at the church clinic to the medical board and Kovac absent, Morris steps up as the lone attending in a busy ER; Abby treats a comedian on the verge of the big time but is concerned when he does not take his illness seriously; Sarah continues to come between Tony and Neela. Simon: Freddy Rodriguez.

For the following week (2/15 - Crisis of Conscience) - Gates and Kovac struggle over how best to treat a patient with liver failure, while Neela has concerns about a decision made by Manish (Aasif Mandvi). Meanwhile, Ray investigates an accidental fall.

[cari2]

Thanks! So glad Ames is gone - he really gave me the creeps and I can't stand stalker stories. Interesting twist re: Sarah, I didn't see that coming.

[maxandmolly]

Ok, I missed a few episodes when I lost my TiVo-when did Luka & Abby get married? He keeps calling her wife and she calls him her husband and I'm like-wah? When did that happen.

[maplekitty]

okay the one thing that bugged DH and I...how did he fire twice at himself? There were two shots fired, but when they showed his body, he shot himself in the side of the head :confused:

[Ericka_Jarett]

I think he either tried to shoot at Kovac or he shot 2 times at himself and missed the first time and got himself the next time. Or he could have had his finger on the trigger and when he fell it went off.

As for the hubby and wife, not sure they married, if they did I missed it.

[Sazoo]

Ok, I missed a few episodes when I lost my TiVo-when did Luka & Abby get married? He keeps calling her wife and she calls him her husband and I'm like-wah? When did that happen.Huh, good point. I do not believe they ever got married, but you're right, they did make some husband/wife references in this episode! :confused:

okay the one thing that bugged DH and I...how did he fire twice at himself? There were two shots fired, but when they showed his body, he shot himself in the side of the head :confused:DH & I noticed the same thing! Weird...

[Sazoo]

Another thing that bugged me about last night's episode was that Sam's new boyfriend (can't remember his name) left her & Alex in the apartment during the fire...whaat? I guess he must have helped grandma get out safely, but I dunno, I just really don't think a guy in that situation would leave his girlfriend & her son behind in a burning apartment.

Also, towards the end of the show when Sam went into the hospital room and talked to her grandma about Alex...he was right there, wide awake listening to their conversation. She didn't even check to see if he was sleeping. That seemed weird to me. *shrug*

[Kay]

I think its very realistic to have Abby and Luka calling each other husband and wife even though they are not married. They are in a long term relationship and have a child. I have been there. It just doesn't feel right calling the SO a 'boyfriend' or 'girlfriend' at that point. I think the show was trying to show how they feel about each other. I also think maybe its the shows way of hinting at a wedding soon? I think it would be nice for the two of them to finally get married.

I wonder if they are going to ever explain the two shots we heard or if we are supposed to just guess?

[ceaserbride]

I think it's realistic for Abby and Luca to call each other husband and wife as well...

Okay I haven't watched ER forever but didn't Luca lose a wife and child before??? Why didn't Abby or Luca mention this to Ames while trying to console him and let him know that he can move through this. It's the first thing that jumped into my mind...

I don't like the whole Sarah, Nilla, Tony story line for some reason. I'm not sure what it is.

Count me in for being glad Ames is gone too.

[Ericka_Jarett]

Your right, Luka's first wife and child were killed. Not sure why they didn't have him mention it, maybe it's a fact they want to forget or something.

[ignutzz]

wait, luka is leaving? what? when did this happen?

Let me clarify (since I'm the one that posted about this), Goran has stated in an international interview that he will NOT be renewing his contract and will leave the show when his current contract is up. While I don't know the contract specifics, I would suspect that the term is up at the end of the season but with options that would have him appearing briefly in one or two episodes of the next season to wrap things up (like they did with Carter). Of course, it's always possible that he'll change his mind. :)

The previews for next week show something that every ER fan should see they said. Maybe Luka since his hand has been crushed in that vice.
It might have more to do with the guest star and additional story arcs than aftermath specifics.

Another thing that bugged me about last night's episode was that Sam's new boyfriend (can't remember his name) left her & Alex in the apartment during the fire...whaat? I guess he must have helped grandma get out safely, but I dunno, I just really don't think a guy in that situation would leave his girlfriend & her son behind in a burning apartment.
I couldn't figure out where Sam was in that whole thing. I thought she had sent Ben out with Gracie while she grabbed Alex and followed right behind. I've got it saved so I think I'm going to go back and watch it again.

I think its very realistic to have Abby and Luka calling each other husband and wife even though they are not married. They are in a long term relationship and have a child. I have been there. It just doesn't feel right calling the SO a 'boyfriend' or 'girlfriend' at that point. I think the show was trying to show how they feel about each other. I also think maybe its the shows way of hinting at a wedding soon? I think it would be nice for the two of them to finally get married.
I completely agree. Plus, in a tense situation you get a better response to husband/wife than boyfriend/girlfriend/partner/sig other etc.

Okay I haven't watched ER forever but didn't Luca lose a wife and child before??? Why didn't Abby or Luca mention this to Ames while trying to console him and let him know that he can move through this. It's the first thing that jumped into my mind...
Perhaps they didn't want to seem like they were being condescending/dismissive/one-upping his pain? I was a little surprised when Luka didn't bring it up when Ames was talking specifically about loss. On the other hand, Luka has never use that tragedy as a crutch, even in other circumstances where it would seem similarly useful. Abby has never felt it was her place to talk about it either.

[paiger]

okay the one thing that bugged DH and I...how did he fire twice at himself? There were two shots fired, but when they showed his body, he shot himself in the side of the head :confused:

I just watched the episode, and I thought that the helicopter shot at him b/c he was pointing the gun. They definitely weren't going for realistic if that wasn't the case, I think they were trying to make you think it was a murder/suicide.

[Ericka_Jarett]

Well it finally happened, they are making good on husband and wife.

Glad Pratt is not going to jail.

Alex definately needs help, glad Sam is possibly going to take the advice about school.

I think Neela and Ray should be together.

Next week looks really good. I see Stamos off the show in a few months most likely.

[thedoorchick]

I'm tired of Stamos; his character just bugs me.

I definitely see them setting up Ray and Neela, probably for a season-ending crossroads in their relationship.

[suzubeane]

I just watched the episode, and I thought that the helicopter shot at him b/c he was pointing the gun.Me, too, because the big cheese on the ground reacted by saying something like "Who fired? I didn't give the order to fire!"

re: Last night ... I don't know why, but I thought there'd be some bad fallout from Neela letting the recipient of the kidney see her donor. Like some racist drama. I was pleasantly surprised to be wrong on that one - her reaction was wonderful.

I'm sorry, but I cannot get use to Morris' character being written as competent and perceptive!

[Ericka_Jarett]

I can't stand Morris, wish he would leave the show, he has been on too long now. He is an idiot when he first joined and still an idiot now X years later.

[ignutzz]

re: Last night ... I don't know why, but I thought there'd be some bad fallout from Neela letting the recipient of the kidney see her donor. Like some racist drama. I was pleasantly surprised to be wrong on that one - her reaction was wonderful.

Ha! You're not the only one! I REALLY thought they were going to play the "Ew, I have part of THAT in me now?!" thing. SO glad they didn't.

Ok, so I was grinning like a mad school girl at the end of the show. Luka smiles so rarely that I can't help grinning when he does. :)

[thedoorchick]

Was Dubenko being a class A jerk or what?

I am so excited about that scene at the end in the car! How long have we been waiting for that!

Abby truly baffles me. If you're trying to keep your engagement a secret, why go around talking about wedding cakes and perusing bridal mags for pics of gowns? Could she have been any more obvious?

However I loved the exchange between Morris and Hope:

Morris: "Getting married? Abby? She's not exactly the marrying kind."
Hope: "She's female. We're all the marrying kind."

[Ericka_Jarett]

Finally the kiss happened, been waiting for what seems like forever.

Abby is a trip. They might as well announce the engagement, of all people for Luka to go to for a travel agents number, Morris.

That exchange was pretty funny. Hope must not know that Abby was married before.

[ignutzz]

Was Dubenko being a class A jerk or what?
Yep. Although, after what Neela did, I can completely understand why she's fallen out of favor with him.

However I loved the exchange between Morris and Hope:

Morris: "Getting married? Abby? She's not exactly the marrying kind."
Hope: "She's female. We're all the marrying kind."

I was actually royally annoyed at that comment. But then I find the whole "since I/she was a little girl I/she has been [insert stereotypical female obsession here]" thing really obnoxious as well. :p


Despite the big ad pronouncements, I found last night kind of whatever. There were so many little things going on that I can barely remember what all happened.

[suzubeane]

I was actually royally annoyed at that comment. But then I find the whole "since I/she was a little girl I/she has been [insert stereotypical female obsession here]" thing really obnoxious as well. :p Ditto. I typically bristle at male/female generalizations anyway, but especially ones that insinuate that women all want to be married and/or brides.

Despite the big ad pronouncements, I found last night kind of whatever. There were so many little things going on that I can barely remember what all happened.Same here.

Now that I'm getting used to seeing Morris as capable, I did like the interaction between him an Pratt (When Pratt accused him of thinking all black, inner city people were alike.) I liked that Morris did not back down off his original idea that any doctor in that ER could best relate to patients with whom they share a similar demographic, and also that Pratt later apologized. IIRC, there have been times when Pratt went out of his way to initiate relationships with people from the projects where he grew up, so what Morris was suggesting was not all that far fetched. I guess it's different to initiate those things yourself than it is to have someone else suggest it.

Does anyone else feel like the writers are just making Stamos' character more an more complex because the audience likes him? He's been credited with "saving the show" ... it's almost as if they're setting him up for a spin-off. His story is so complex it stands on it's own.

[Islandbride1025]

Another one who thought the epi was eeeeh. Agree with PP regarding Luka smiling, he does it so rarely, it's nice to see.

I like Neela and Ray together, but I get the feeling she really wants to be with Stamos' character, so heartbreak is on the horizon for Ray. John Stamos' character annoys me also.

[Ericka_Jarett]

I want to see Stamos off. Was telling hubby last night, that to me seems they are trying to write him off a bit, which honestly wouldn't bother me at all. I don't care for him at all.

The episode was ok. Seems like since I watch the daytime episodes I think the older ones are so much better

[thedoorchick]

I like Neela and Ray together, but I get the feeling she really wants to be with Stamos' character, so heartbreak is on the horizon for Ray. John Stamos' character annoys me also.

I disagree; I think the whole relationship between her and Gates was arranged to just kill some time so that when she finally got together with Ray, who she's been best friends with for ages and has lots of history with, it wouldn't be on the rebound after her husband died. Neela and Ray will be in it for the long haul, I think.

Assuming Shane West does not leave the show. I have seen some talk on LJ about another show that he's on, that is piloting soon? Apparently they are trying to figure out if he can do both.

John Stamos has been credited with "saving" the show? By whom? If anything, to me he's just an annoyance.
Although, after what Neela did, I can completely understand why she's fallen out of favor with him.
Well, I can understand it because his viewpoint on the subject is clear, but I feel he is very, very much in the wrong. Neela took a stand against something that is not only ethically questionable but also illegal, and this is what she gets from him? That's just wrong.

I agree with Suzubeane re: Morris and Pratt.

[Tanya]

Ug, I think Neela and Ray have absolutely no chemistry together. I cringed when they kissed. I like her better with jerky Gates.

[ignutzz]

Well, I can understand it because his viewpoint on the subject is clear, but I feel he is very, very much in the wrong. Neela took a stand against something that is not only ethically questionable but also illegal, and this is what she gets from him? That's just wrong.

Oh, sorry, I forgot about that incident. I was thinking of her introducing the two transplant patients from the earlier episode. Now, having been reminded of how HE acted incorrectly, I can see why his behavior is completely out of line and hypocritical.

[thedoorchick]

Right, the incident a week or two with her refusing to scrub in on the transplant of the sold kidney (was it a kidney? I forget).

I'd forgotten about Neela showing the transplant recipient her donor.

[ignutzz]

Yep, I think we're both on the same page now. :p

[Brandles]

I don't know names here, but what's the deal with the bald guy and Sarah Gilbert's character? Are they secretly dating/sleeping together? What's up with the S&M?

Alex has bugged me for awhile now. He bugged me before he ran away to find his father on that one season finale. That stunt just made me really dislike him. I'm glad to see he's in a reform school.

[suzubeane]

What's up with the S&M? Not sure what you mean by "what's up with ...?" OR that I'd characterize anything I heard as S&M. All I got was that there seems to be a little dom/sub thing going on with them, and there has been for about 3 months. She demanded a king size bed. If there was any more to it than that, I missed it.

[skyblu]

I have no listings on my Tivo for ER, for anytime soon. Is it over already? Did I miss the season finale? All I have on Thursdays at 10 is that new Jeff Goldblum show, Raines.

:confused: :confused: :confused:

[mgrace]

I think I saw an ad stating that there is a new episode in April.

[Ericka_Jarett]

It returns on my b-day (April 12th)

On the nbc.com/er site they have a where they are now. Shows the past members

[suzubeane]

I wasn't crazy about this episode, but I do think that closing the ER was a clever way to allow everyone to be at a party together with no one missing it on account of work.

A few irritating things: Abby and Luka have NOT been together for 7 years! I don't think we were meant to believe they HAD been together for that long, but saying "It's been seven years!" implies they have been pining for each other for 7 years, and they just have not. They had a bad breakup when the writers inexplicably decided to make Luka into an asshole, and they each had other significant relationships that were not dogged by the constant memory of what they once shared. It's as if the writers wanted us to forget that little inconvenient fact.

That something was going happen to Ray by the end was just too predictable.

The Rabbi: Where do I begin? First, could he have been more stereotypical? Meh. Second, he would not have been wearing a Tallis (prayer shawl) to perform a wedding, even a wedding between Jews. It was placed on him to add to the comic relief, which is not exactly offensive, but annoying. (It's one thing to just get a prop wrong - that's not a big deal - but to get it wrong to add to this guy being a caricature of himself was irritating.) And lastly, traditional Jewish weddings do not have readings nor vows. Sure, some people add them, but it's not like they would have been in a Rabbi's wedding playbook. I'll forgive the band for playing "Hava Nagila" after the glass is smashed - that's a Jewish song for celebrating that a lot of people know - but it was just another incorrect detail that said "Oh, isn't this Jewish stuff funny" to me.

[ceaserbride]

I agree the Ray thing was very perdictable, and I've been waiting for him and Stamoes to get into it now for a while. Glad it's over. Oh and poor Nilla, what a night she had!! :o First the O.R. Dr., then the whole Ray/stamoes thing and then the intern!! I'm waiting for her to have some kind of revolation. She doesn't seem like a "widow" to me and we didn't see much of a grieving process from her...maybe this Ray thing will do it for her?

I thought it was kinda sappy that Abby and Luka got married with all their ER friends but hey, what girl doesn't like Sappy once in a while?? It really didn't bother me. I think Luka and Abby are too cute anyway. I love them:)

[ignutzz]

I enjoyed the episode for the farce it was. :)

I was a little annoyed with Abby when she was being SO "Abby" (hasn't she grown a little after all these years, hasn't her relationship with Luka matured and deepened and become more trustful????) but she ended up redeeming herself. I do relate to her distaste for the hoopla - I had to be convinced to do a traditional wedding too. :p

The Neela thing was funny but predictable but I was SO happy that Ray called her out for being such a wuss (at the same time, I totally get her response to him too).

While I know next to nothing about any religions, even I was a little :rolleyes: about the rabbi thing. I was really hoping they'd gotten Jerry to fill in! :D

I'm sick of Stamos, I wish he'd leave. And I FF through all of the Pratt stuff, I detest him.

Tucci looks to be an odd/interesting addition to the crew.


ETA Re: 7yrs: You're right suzubeane, they haven't been a couple for 7 years, but they've been with each other that long as friends and/or companions, despite the hard parts. While the new eps have been leading up to the wedding, the TNT reruns have been showing the Luka/Abby/Carter storyline and Luka was DEFINITELY "pining" for Abby when she was with John. It wasn't necessarily overt, and he wasn't trying to cause any strife, but the PTB showed several pointed scenes over several eps of Luka wanting Abby. So for HIM, I do think he's been waiting that long.

[ceaserbride]

Haha, I was thinking Jerry too when they said the J of the P couldn't make it but they had a replacement! I don't even know why...

I missed it when Ray called out Neela! What did he say to her??

[ignutzz]

He was talking to her about where they stand and she said she didn't know, that this was hard for her (something like that).

His response was "no offense, but thats your baseline these days." (something to that effect.

He was basically saying (nicely), you keep giving me the same wishy-washy answer and it's starting to get stale. Given that I find Neela to be a overly-analytical, simpering twit, I couldn't agree with him more. :D

ETA: Jerry presided over the Neela/Gallant wedding (right, or was it just discussed that he could do it?) that's why my head went there. Plus, doesn't Jerry just BELONG at something like this??

[lady1297]

Why did they do that to Ray? That makes no freaking sense. Let the girl cut a break already! I thought that was awfully stupid. Is he not wanting to return?

I like the wedding and loved the wedding dress, but the rabbi was ridiculous. A Catholic priest would have been better since Luca is Catholic anyway, that, would have been funnier.

And the intern thing, come on....

I don't know. I wish they would go back to the way it used to be, more realistic...it's getting too soap opera for me and I guess that's why I only watch every few weeks now a days.

[ignutzz]

Yes, I can't shut up this morning. :D

Ray: I haven't heard anything about his contract status, maybe he does want to leave.

Speaking of leaving, did Luka QUIT, or did he just quit Chief. Because if he really quit, that gives credence to the rumors that Goran is leaving at the end of this season (and another reason to wrap up the L/A relationship in nice bow).

If it had been a priest up there, Abby would have turned around and left. I think they deliberately avoided using an officiant that had anything to do with things both partners objected to in the past.

The intern: Does anyone else think they had to put that woman somewhere while they figured out what was happening with Studio 60 (if you don't know, the intern plays a rebellious college girl on Studio 60).

[ceaserbride]

Hmmm...I was under the impression the Luka just quit as chief of staff, but now you have me wondering!

It seems that in the next episode Ray is "missing" by the preview. Maybe it's just a plot twist and he's not going anywhere?? Maybe the reasoning behind it will be to make Neela come to grips with something (can you tell I'm getting sick of Neela's indecisivness???)

Geez...I really hope Luka isn't leaving. He's currently my favorite character...

[cradle]

ignutzz - I agree on the intern. I don't think she's a very good actress, but enough with her!

I know that the Ray thing was predictable and Neela's inability to decide is killing me ... but I really want those two to get together and when whatever happened to Ray, happened, I still screamed at the TV! Why can't anything, esp. relationships, be easy on that show?!?!?!? Why can't two people just get together and be happy?!??! I'll still watch! Promise!

[Chelsea524]

I know that the Ray thing was predictable and Neela's inability to decide is killing me ... but I really want those two to get together and when whatever happened to Ray, happened, I still screamed at the TV! Why can't anything, esp. relationships, be easy on that show?!?!?!? Why can't two people just get together and be happy?!??! I'll still watch! Promise!

ITA, I screamed at the tv too, my DH was making fun of me and told me I am no longer allowed to watch this show because I get upset about it after just about every episode.

[ignutzz]

cradle yeah the ray thing bugged me too. when they had him miss the first collision I really hoped they weren't going to go there. :rolleyes: Oh well, I still enjoy the show, high drama or not. ;)

Chelsea I was crowing to my DH that A & L were finally getting married and he rolled his eyes and told me how much he didn't care (nicely), so I told him how much I didn't care about his baseball stuff. We called it even, kissed and made up. hahahahha :D

[Sazoo]

I wasn't crazy about this episode, but I do think that closing the ER was a clever way to allow everyone to be at a party together with no one missing it on account of work.I didn't quite understand last week when they explained WHY the ER was closing...? Budget issues? ER facility needs remodeling? :confused:

Speaking of leaving, did Luka QUIT, or did he just quit Chief. Because if he really quit, that gives credence to the rumors that Goran is leaving at the end of this season (and another reason to wrap up the L/A relationship in nice bow).I got the impression he just resigned as Chief...but I could be wrong, especially given the rumors that the actor is leaving the show. *shrug*

I know that the Ray thing was predictable and Neela's inability to decide is killing me ... but I really want those two to get together and when whatever happened to Ray, happened, I still screamed at the TV! Why can't anything, esp. relationships, be easy on that show?!?!?!? Why can't two people just get together and be happy?!??! I'll still watch! Promise!I'm with you - I really want to see Ray and Neela FINALLY get together, so I'm going to be pissed if he did in fact get killed in that accident. :mad: I don't hate Stamos's character (can't remember his name) but I don't really like him with Neela. And the OR doc and the intern flirtations with Neela...gimme a break. :rolleyes:

[suzubeane]

I was a little annoyed with Abby when she was being SO "Abby" Me, too. But it was clever that they had the flower girl accusing her of whining, and then caught on tape saying she wished they'd all be happy - "even the bride." :)

The Neela thing was funny but predictable but I was SO happy that Ray called her out for being such a wuss (at the same time, I totally get her response to him too).Her response to him was something like "not that it matters now." or something. I didn't get that.

ETA Re: 7yrs: You're right suzubeane, they haven't been a couple for 7 years, but they've been with each other that long as friends and/or companions, despite the hard parts. While the new eps have been leading up to the wedding, the TNT reruns have been showing the Luka/Abby/Carter storyline and Luka was DEFINITELY "pining" for Abby when she was with John. It wasn't necessarily overt, and he wasn't trying to cause any strife, but the PTB showed several pointed scenes over several eps of Luka wanting Abby. So for HIM, I do think he's been waiting that long.OK, yes - but he also wanted to marry Sam, and it's as if we're not supposed to remember that. And Abby was *this close* from getting engaged to Carter - I don't think she was pining for Luka then.

As for the rabbi, there were plenty of options that were not priests that would have worked. The whole "JOP couldn't make it, so we have a stand in" was unnecessary to begin with. Although having Jerry do it would have been great!

I agree that Neela has not been acting like a grieving widow, so to bring Gallant into the mix NOW is kind of weak.

[skyblu]

I enjoyed the episode with the suspended disbelief necessary. I mean, last I heard, you need a marriage license to get married and you both have to be present to apply for it and it takes a few days (except in Nevada) to get it. But whatever.

The Rabbi thing was annoying and slightly offensive, the Neela/Ray/Gates traingle is just a yawn, and the fight was so predictable! Then again, so was Ray getting hit by a truck.

I agree with cradle, why does nobody on this show nowadays ever seem happy, content, relaxed? Abby always looks like she's smelling a turd, Neela seems like she just wrings her hands all the time, and Sam (hello? are we supposed to forget Luka and Sam's relationship? WHAT 7 years? He wanted to adopt her son!) is so depressed and dismissive of people. Argh.

Dude, if I were marrying Goran Vijsnic (or sleeping with him or whatever - don't kill the dream!), I'd have a perma-smile pasted on my face from ear to ear!

[kam]

Eh. I just can't forget the "you aren't that pretty" speech and never really liked Luka and Abby together.

[gayle]

skyblu said
"Dude, if I were marrying Goran Vijsnic (or sleeping with him or whatever - don't kill the dream!), I'd have a perma-smile pasted on my face from ear to ear!"

No shit sherlock!! Me too!!!

I have loved this show from the begining, but I have to say that most of this season has just left me yawning, or basically not caring one way or the other. The scripts and storylines are weak, and they all seem forced to me.

If Goran leaves, I am sure that will be it for me and I will let my ER addiction fade away.

[skyblu]

Gayle, I remember from when I visited you that you are a huge ER fan. I'd kind of forgotten, but now I remember how sweet it was that you'd snuggle up with Judd in your bed to watch the taped shows.

[suzubeane]

Eh. I just can't forget the "you aren't that pretty" speech and never really liked Luka and Abby together.I can't forget that either, or really anything about the way they broke up. It was almost like the writers got bored with them as a couple and wanted to expedite the Carter/Abby thing, so they started to write him as a jerk. Maybe this is why I didn't start to find them believable as a couple until he got kidnapped by Forest Whitaker. But then again, they never wrote in anything about him getting over Sam. Then again, Sam is such a one-dimensional character, you could never even see why they were together.

[gayle]

Gayle, I remember from when I visited you that you are a huge ER fan. I'd kind of forgotten, but now I remember how sweet it was that you'd snuggle up with Judd in your bed to watch the taped shows.


Ah, thanks sweetie! I think Jud is losing interest in it too, but my "one night stand pass for Goran (yeah, like I'd ever get the chance)" still stands, LOL!!!

[ignutzz]

I just found out what happens to Ray. :eek:

[lady1297]

SOOOOO Tell me! :)

[ignutzz]

Ok. MAJOR SPOILER ALERT!!!!





































He loses both legs below the knees. His mother comes to take him home to recuperate so it looks like Shane West is done with ER

[manda_kate]

Argh! I am mad at myself that I read the spoiler, but in a weird way, I'm glad I read it, too! It's very interesting!

[Ericka_Jarett]

Got the next 2 weeks storylines, per Titan TV

This Thursday: Pratt attempts to change his ways for the sake of a love interest; a new doctor (Stanley Tucci) takes up residence at County; newlyweds Abby and Luka adjust to being husband and wife, while Hope and Morris take advantage of the honeymoon suite.

Following week: In the 13th-season finale, Kovac leaves his new bride and ER staff in the hands of a new chief (Stanley Tucci) bent on change while he visits his ailing father back in Croatia. Meanwhile, Neela puts herself in a life-threatening situation when she attends an antiwar rally; and Gates has to leave work when Sarah panics about her future.


-Hate what they did to Ray.
-The Rabbi was just a last min replacement they even mentioned that, so didn't really think much about it.
-Love the way they had the wedding (Abby grow up, he loves you)
-already not liking the new chief (just from preview) Reminds me of Romano
-Neela should have just hooked up with Ray and heck with Stamos' character. She is getting on my nerves

[maplekitty]

so...no one has anything to say about ER last night?

maybe cause it was b...o...r...i...n...g..!!!
something was off about last night's episode? I don't know, it just didnt seem right, like were there different writers? I can't place my finger on it?

Anyways, adding Stanley Tucci to the cast will be interesting...seems like he really wants to change up the ER for the better.

And they showed clips from next week's episode, and Ray is not dead, so there goes that spoiler. I think that's one of my biggest beefs about ER previews, they always show clips that just give away the whole suspense!

[ignutzz]

maplekitty Trust me, there is still plenty of suspense left regarding ray's circumstances. ;)

Last night wasn't all that interesting or eventful, definitely just used as a set up for next week's finale. But, it was directed by Laura Innes (Carrie) and I really liked some of the camera shots. There was a multi-scene shot that was just one long camera motion that was really nicely done.

I did like the Luka/Abby interactions. DH notice (:confused: :p) the massive scar on GV's abdomen at the beginning of the epi. I don't remember noticing it before (and he's had other shirt-off moments where it would have been visible).

[gayle]

They may have covered his scar with makeup in other episodes. Being a bit of a Goran fangirl, I read awhile back that the scar was from ulcer surgery many years ago.

[myshel]

Not that this has any relevance to this thread whatsoever, but I thought I'd just put it out there... I named my son after Goran's character on ER. Everyone laughs when I tell them except nurses. They always seem to "get it."

[ignutzz]

They may have covered his scar with makeup in other episodes. Being a bit of a Goran fangirl, I read awhile back that the scar was from ulcer surgery many years ago.
Yeah, I just read that (beinga fangirl myself ;) after I posted. I think I may not have noticed before because it does get lost depending on the shot. The part where it was obvious was the close-up as he was starting to fold the striped shirt.

Not that this has any relevance to this thread whatsoever, but I thought I'd just put it out there... I named my son after Goran's character on ER. Everyone laughs when I tell them except nurses. They always seem to "get it."

I get it. :) I love the name, no matter where it came from.

[ceaserbride]

Luka was my #1 pick for a boys name but dh doesn't like it...luckily, we're having a girl which means I have more time to convince him. I also like it because it's Yugoslavian, my dad is Serbian....Who cares if Luka is Croatian !!(sp?) lol...

Last weeks episode was kinda boring...I'm not sure I'm going to like Tucci. I don't like the was he was talking to Pratt...and I really like Pratt!

The call that Luka got at the end of the episode made me sad for Abbi. When dad used to get phone calls and start speaking Yugoslavian, I would always wonder "what's going on now?". You can tell Abbie knows something is up.

[skyblu]

*yawn* at the latest episode.

I actually watched it on Tivo. I had to stop and finish it another day because of work, and when I hit "Resume Play" I was SHOCKED to see I had watched like 52 minutes of the show. It seemed like nothing had happened, so I thought I'd only seen 15-20 minutes!

Whatever happened to the cop that Sam had started seeing? The one who was a patient? Then she was making out with someone else at L+A's wedding. :confused:

[emschwar]

I kind of liked the episode. I like Tucci's character. I didn't at first, but it seems like he's really got the interests of the ER at heart, even if it's going to cause some growing pains at first.

[Ericka_Jarett]

Missed the episode this past week, will watch the season finale on Thursday though.

Glad to see Ray lived after that crash

Right now just from previews not digging Tucci's character.

[thedoorchick]

I am so upset. This just sucks. Could any more bad things possibly have happened in one episode?

[lady1297]

OH my......

[maxandmolly]

I was waiting to hear that Luka's plane had crashed.....suppose they'll save that for the season premiere? I hope not though. Really, they've put Abby through enough.

[maplekitty]

wow im glad i didnt read that spoiler about ray because i was SHOCKED when they turned him around and he had no legs! I actually gasped!!

[ceaserbride]

Lastnights show was so depressing:( I was so genuinly sad after it ended. I wonder if Nilla is okay?? I can't see *another* member or the ER being hurt. And honestly the last thing Ray needs right now is Nila! It would be one big pitty party. I can't see her chearing him up much.

Tucci grew on me a little lastnight...but I still don't like his personality for the most part. What was with that comment to Abby? Pretty unneccessary I would think...oh, and flirting with the patients. O.k......

[thedoorchick]

I do think Tucci will be a good addition, though last night he grated on me some.

I dislike Katie even more than I did before, if that is possible. She needs to go away!

[Ericka_Jarett]

I hated last night's episode.

shocked to see Ray with no legs, let alone even alive

Neela well they just had to do something to her.

DH said that the show was quite political to him, with the rally, translator and amputation. Terrorism and the whole plane thing too.

That comment to Abby was so Romano, I was like wow.

If they take Ray of for good now, Neela leaves and Luka dies, I should avoid the show. It's changed sooooo much

[thedoorchick]

I have been hearing rumors that Shane West wanted to leave to star in another show, so unfortunately, I think he is done with ER, but that is unconfirmed, just my personal opinion after the current storyline together with the rumors.

I agree, it was quite political, but I wasn't surprised. That's become rather typical.

[Islandbride1025]

Did Neela plan on going to the rally or did she just jump out of the cab because traffic was bad and ended up at the the rally? So unrealistic that John Stamos' character would "happen" to find her there.

Can someone tell me what happened to Ray. I missed that episode.

[thedoorchick]

Two episode ago (the one with the wedding), Ray got drunk and was walking home and walked into the street where he was hit by a truck.

[ignutzz]

No rumors and very confirmed: Shane West is doing a pilot for Fox that the network is planning to air next season. (http://www.zap2it.com/tv/news/zap-westbierkojonesfoxpilots,0,4555868.story)

Someone mentioned the peace rally to Neela earlier in the episode, and she in turn mentioned it in passing to Gates, that's why he was looking for her there (but I agree, how the hell could he possibly have truly found her?).

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Eh, I didn't get much from last night's show. Although I really want to see where Luka's storyline is going (but no, I have no fears of a plane crash, it'll be MUCH deeper than that - GV has been waiting for a Croatia storyline for a long time), the other characters left me fairly cold. I'll still watch, I'm a diehard ER fan til the bitter end :D, but I'm not anticipating the premier the way I have before.

Also, although there was speculation that there may be a 15th season, it looks fairly certain now that next year is the end of ER. Noah Wylie will be coming back for a bit to tie it all up (no specifics yet though).

[Sazoo]

Did Neela plan on going to the rally or did she just jump out of the cab because traffic was bad and ended up at the the rally? So unrealistic that John Stamos' character would "happen" to find her there.I thought the same thing. One minute Gates is calling Neela and getting her voicemail...and the next he's spotting her at the rally that, from what I gathered, she just happened to come across during her cab ride home. Huh?

[suzubeane]

Does anyone remember that episode where a woman has her legs crushed and they both needed to be amputated? Her car was disabled - I think it was Luka who had stopped to help her - she went around the rear to get something out of the back and was crushed when a pickup plowed into her.

For some reason, I was just thinking about that episode yesterday - the special effects used to make her look like an amputee and the alarm and grief on her husband's face when he saw her, not knowing in advance. (And IIRC, the audience did not know either.)

Very strange that I would be thinking about that given what happened to Ray, and they way Neela first found out. Could ER be recycling now? Did they just want to reuse both their cool special affect and the shock of discovering? I can't even imagine how Ray would have suffered a crushing injury; it seems much more likely he would have been thrown many feet by the impact. But I guess there's less shock value in a spinal cord injury. :rolleyes:

[emschwar]

Did Neela plan on going to the rally or did she just jump out of the cab because traffic was bad and ended up at the the rally? So unrealistic that John Stamos' character would "happen" to find her there.

I liked how Neela was the only person at the rally wearing a red shirt. Because that's realistic! :rolleyes: And that Gates just happened to know that the woman with long dark hair and the red shirt was her.

[Sal03]

I'll still watch, I'm a diehard ER fan til the bitter end ,

I agree, but this episode just left me feeling sick. I just watched it and I was like ENOUGH ALREADY. Could they have left us with one uplifting moment??!! I do not like Gates but I felt so bad for Sarah. The storyline with Ray was just awful. You just know something bad is happening to Luka and then Neela?? it was just too much.
Oh and I think I am going to like Stanley Tucci's character in a love/hate kind of Romano way, but his comment to Abby was completely inappropriate and Abby should have told him so.

[ignutzz]

Suzubeane Yep, I remember that epi quite well. ER has recycled a lot of stuff, big and small, amongst all the regulars and patients. Honestly, at this point with television, a spinal injury IS cliché and ordinary so I was glad they didn't go there. As for being crushed, depending on the type of impact, Ray could have been thrown in front of the truck and run over as it tried to stop.

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I understand that Frank's flying comment is likely making some folks think something terrible is going to happen to Luka but I REALLY disagree. Luka's life has already been put in mortal jeopardy, twice now, and it would be utter stupidity to go there again. Goran, according the interviews, has been hoping to do a storyline in Croatia for a long time. I really feel that next season will see us spending an episode, or two, in Croatia meeting Luka's dad, seeing the country and watching Abby and Joe meet their extended family. It will also provide an exit storyline for GV as well if he stays to care for his father. (None of the above are spoilers, it just general speculation amongst ER groups that I happen to agree with.)

[maxandmolly]

Good to know I'm not the only one dreading an abrupt end for Luka. Luka in Croatia would be great! Or maybe back in Afica with Carter? When Pratt went there it seemed a lot like Carter's life was up in the air, with him being awway from Kim. Of all things ER that would bug me, the lack of a true happy ending for Carter would do it. He was the heart of the show for so long, and the longest lasting original cast member.

[ignutzz]

Carter will definitely be back next season, he's still under contract to do some shows. I really hope they show a good ending with him and Kem too. During the second big Africa trip, Carter was wearing a wedding ring and the bracelet Kem had given him, so they were still together but it wasn't clear HOW together.

[ceaserbride]

Neela did say to the patient that she might go to the rally and I do somewhat recall her telling Gates that she may go. Or maybe he was in the room when she was talking with the patient? I don't think she made definate plans to go but when the cab was held up by the rally she spontaneously decided to go....I don't know, I don't think it's that unrealistic. Something I would probably do.


understand that Frank's flying comment is likely making some folks think something terrible is going to happen to Luka but I REALLY disagree. Luka's life has already been put in mortal jeopardy, twice now, and it would be utter stupidity to go there again. Goran, according the interviews, has been hoping to do a storyline in Croatia for a long time. I really feel that next season will see us spending an episode, or two, in Croatia meeting Luka's dad, seeing the country and watching Abby and Joe meet their extended family. It will also provide an exit storyline for GV as well if he stays to care for his father. (None of the above are spoilers, it just general speculation amongst ER groups that I happen to agree with.)
This would make me very happy.

[Sazoo]

ER returns for a new season on Thursday, September 27th @ 10 pm! :)

[Ericka_Jarett]

interesting episode tonight. I never liked that new doctor they brought on, don't terribly care for Stamos' character but actually loved what he did tonight. Crazy about Neela.

[maxandmolly]

It was a decent episode, but it just isn't the same without Luka.

[DaniML]

I can't stand the new doc they brought in to run the ER. Even though I have to say I liked him a bit better at the end of the show when when he was talking to Abby and fianlly seemed to realize how different the ER is and that his expectations might have been off.

Loved how Abby told the new doc off during the show and how Pratt and Morris had a BAC done.

I really hope Neela wakes up and soon! I like her character.

[vjel]

It was a decent episode, but it just isn't the same without Luka.

refresh my failing memory...where is Luka???

[ysolde]

Is Luka off the show?

[Kay]

refresh my failing memory...where is Luka???

Luka went to Croatia to be with his ailing father. I think he is supposed to make a few guest appearances throughout the season.

Does anyone like John Stamos' character? I have never really liked him and I still don't. He was always way too arrogant and hotheaded. I hated him for coming between Ray and Neela. I wanted to scream everytime he called Neela "mayday" last night. I wish he would just leave Neela alone.

[maxandmolly]

Luka went to Croatia to be with his ailing father. I think he is supposed to make a few guest appearances throughout the season.
I seem to remember this coming up around season finale time. I think they are doing a "major" story for him in Croatia the way Carter had in Africa, but he's not just guesting a few times a season like Carter did.
Anybody have some details on that? I swear I read it somewhere.

[DaniML]

I looked on Spoilerfix and they have nothing about that for the next 5 episodes. Mabye later in the season?

[miaclear]

This show bores me....why won't it just go away. How many more characters can have a near death experience? Or a full death one? Yawwwwwn.

[Ericka_Jarett]

Looks like Jerry may be making an appearance this season.

Shane West is gone.

A rumor I found: A family death will reveal something very sad about one of the staffers in the Oct. 11 episode. Also, Neela turns out to be the worst nanny in the world when she watches baby Joe for Abby. Thankfully, she gets an unexpected assist from Dubenko.

[Smilin13]

I'm too lazy to read this entire thread to see if this question has been asked, so I apologize.

My husband and I were having a discussion, and he wanted to know if any of the original characters were still on the show. I'm not sure, so I'm bringing the question to all you lovely ladies.

Any original cast members still on the show?

Thanks
:)

[Ericka_Jarett]

None of the original cast is on the show anymore. Noah Wylie was the last big cast member to leave from the original crew of doctors and nurses

Characters:

Mark Greene left in 2002
Doug Ross left in 2000
Carol Hathoway left in 2000
John Carter left in 2006
Peter Benton left in 2002
Susan Lewis in 2005 (although she was gone for a while in between)
Desk Clerk Jerry left in 2006
Nurses Connie and Lydia - both left in 2003
David Morgenstern left in 1998
Nurse Wendy left in 1997
Dr Hicks left in 1997

Whole list of the cast since 1994 is here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108757/fullcredits

[Kay]

I seem to remember this coming up around season finale time. I think they are doing a "major" story for him in Croatia the way Carter had in Africa, but he's not just guesting a few times a season like Carter did.
Anybody have some details on that? I swear I read it somewhere.

I know they were talking about doing a Croatia story for awhile. I don't know if they are or not. I do know that Luka will only be back for 4 episodes this season, whether one or more of them take place in Croatia, I don't know. Carter is also supposed to do an episode this season too. There has been a long running rumor that this will be the last season. It is not confirmed, but I think it is very likely.

[cari2]

None of the original cast is on the show anymore. Noah Wylie was the last big cast member to leave from the original crew of doctors and nurses

Well he's not a big cast member anymore, but I think Dr. Anspa is original. And maybe the nurse Trudie (? spelling).

[ignutzz]

Well he's not a big cast member anymore, but I think Dr. Anspa is original. And maybe the nurse Trudie (? spelling).

I think some of the nurses and EMS guys are original - like Malik, Haleh, Lily and Chuny (although she came in the 2nd year).

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While I will always be an ER fan, I wish they would come up with a new pattern for some story lines. We've seen the incompetent ER chief story before (mare winningham, alan alda etc). And given that we're up to Neela for traumatic injuries, they better get something together for Morris before the series ends so he doesn't feel left out. :p

[suzubeane]

Excuse me, but how likely was it that Gates - in all of about 30 seconds - would figure out the "lawn mower injury" was the guy who set off the fireworks and subsequently the riot? I really thought it was going to turn out he was wrong and had assaulted a patient for no good reason - I hate that we're left with the notion that he was right. I also think having peacenick Granddad kill the guy was one of those typically unnecessary ER plot devices.

[LyLMyssChaos]

I really liked the season opener, but last night's show really was disappointing. I really feel like they are recycling old story lines and it just isn't being done well. I am getting really bored and we're only 2 shows in.

[Ericka_Jarett]

Told DH I can see why this will probably be the last season, storylines are getting boring. Always killing someone off or injuring someone to never return. Last night's episode was boring. Next week's is going to be a typical, Morris gets bad news (probably about Hope) and he can't work or think straight.

I will still watch it until the very last episode though, I have watched it since it first started

[ysolde]

Told DH I can see why this will probably be the last season, storylines are getting boring. Always killing someone off or injuring someone to never return. Last night's episode was boring. Next week's is going to be a typical, Morris gets bad news (probably about Hope) and he can't work or think straight.

I will still watch it until the very last episode though, I have watched it since it first started


Oh, I was actually a patient in the hospital when it first started. The nurses and I used to joke that we wanted Dr. Ross (George Clooney) to show up where we were. :D

[Ericka_Jarett]

lol ysolde

I'll be watching it even if I am in the hospital in labor. :)

[suzubeane]

So in Gates' new role, he directs minor patients tell their parents their diagnoses and prognoses? Sweet deal!

[colleenjoy]

can someone give me a recap of last weeks show. my cable went out about 5 minutes into the show. I had it on tivo and just went to watch it last night to prepair for the show tonight.

Thanks

Colleen

[skyblu]

can someone give me a recap of last weeks show. my cable went out about 5 minutes into the show. I had it on tivo and just went to watch it last night to prepair for the show tonight.

Thanks

Colleen

Kind of randomly:


Sarah ran away from her grandparents' and showed up at Tony's. After much deliberation, Tony decided to drive her back to the grandparents.

Neela babysat for Abby with fairly disastrous results (nothing serious.) Lucien showed up and they did yoga, and while they were doing this they noticed baby Joe had started walking. Lucien also kind of apologized for kissing Neela at the wedding.

Morris received a phone call after which he was a complete assh*le. Later he explains to Abby that his father died.

Two "auxilliary" cops get shot. One dies, one does not. We see Sam with her cop boyfriend. They get caught making out in the ER by Tony, who plays it off.

Pratt finds out his girlfriend was faking orgasms. They talk it out.

Tony asks Lucien to get his ICU patient (the 13-year-old boy) into an experimental program at Johns Hopkins. He does.


I don't remember what else happened, but Television Without Pity does pretty detailed recaps.

[colleenjoy]

thanks for the recap, now I can watch last nights show :)

[mrs_pell]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Guess that's how they'll write Luka off the show!! :mad: :rolleyes:

I am so pissed off!!!!!

[Ericka_Jarett]

Didn't get to watch tonight, CSI had me instead. Someone care to recap

[Kay]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Guess that's how they'll write Luka off the show!! :mad: :rolleyes:

I am so pissed off!!!!!

It better not be the way they write Luka off. :mad: This may be the last season and I want some happy endings for once on this damn show. In all the years of this show the only somewhat happy ending I can think of is when Carol ran off to be with Doug and thats it. I want Abby to be happy for once. This is just insane. I am so pissed off. :mad:

[DaniML]

I shouldn't even be in here since I haven't watched most of last nights show. I started to and just got to tired. But I had to come in and comment on Morris. I laughed so hard when he was talking about it being all about periphial (sp?) vision and then ran right into the door of that Hummer. OMG so funny!

[skyblu]

I have to say, I kind of liked drunk Abby. She was way more personable than regular Abby! But then she woke up. Naked. In Moretti's bed. Ew!

Dude, you're married to dreamboat Luka and you sleep with Moretti? Moretti? Not Pratt, not Gates, but Moretti? WTH?

[miaclear]

I kinda think Moretti is hot....in his own way. Granted if I had to choose between all the other hot Drs in the ER he'd be down on the list.

[PinkMartini]

I have to say, I kind of liked drunk Abby. She was way more personable than regular Abby!

As hard as it was to watch her drunk, I agree.

[ignutzz]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Guess that's how they'll write Luka off the show!! :mad: :rolleyes:

I am so pissed off!!!!!
No, it's not, there is a longer story arch to this. While Abby is doing some very questionable things, Luka is not without fault in this situation too.

Dude, you're married to dreamboat Luka and you sleep with Moretti? Moretti? Not Pratt, not Gates, but Moretti? WTH?
Such are the desperate measures one will go to when one has been abandoned.

[JamBray]

Oh MAN! I cannot believe Abby! And while I saw it coming, I'm still really disappointed.
I have to say, I kind of liked drunk Abby. She was way more personable than regular Abby!
Unfortunately, I have to agree. Sober Abby needs to remove the stick.

[off2skl]

I am so sad she's fallen off the wagon again though. I know her character is under a lot of stress, but she's worked hard and come so far....

eta: While she may be serious when she's sober, in previous seasons she was not exactly the happy drunk either....

[off2skl]

Wow! What a story line. The poor mom!

And Abby and Luca; wonder what's going to happen. Is he going to go back to Croatia again and.....

[ignutzz]

And Abby and Luca; wonder what's going to happen. Is he going to go back to Croatia again and.....

I can tell you if you really want to know.

[lady1297]

okay, PM me the details, Ignutzz! ( I love a good spoiler!)

[alliekat75]

I can tell you if you really want to know.

Hi there,
I would love to know also. Do you mind PM'ing me also? Thanks so much.

[allyray231]

I want to know too! PLEASE PM ME!

[njdiva]

Did anyone watch last night's episode. I have not watched any shows this season... but decided to tune in last night. It seems Abby is going to rehab and Luca is off to Croatia....

[Eric's Wife]

I watched but was only able to see the last 30 min. My DVR didnt record the first 30 min. Luckily I caught the mistake in time to see it. What happened in the first half?

[Ericka_Jarett]

I have it on tape and will watch it in the later am

[nuhmah]

DH thinks that Abby is going to skip out on rehab and hit a bar. LOL I still can't believe she slept with Moretti. DH says he keeps blocking it, as the thought is still pretty shattering.

Where was Dr. Wexler? That sex scene with she and Lucien was pretty freaky/hot all at the same time.

[Ericka_Jarett]

1st part of the show: Sam is doing her ambulance ride along, they get hit by a guy who hit a little girl as well. A guy on the street starts yelling at her to help the girl instead of the guy. He then kicks the guy 2 times in the head and Sam then hits the guy doing the kicking in the head

Abby is at Neela's place and had a bottle on the table, Neela kicks her out.

Morris wants to try out a new scanner, so making up issues with patients.

[maplekitty]

Morris wants to try out a new scanner, so making up issues with patients.


Actually Morris, Pratt, Gates and Frank made a bet for 300 dollars that they could get 300 patients in 24 hours (this was also ER's 300th episode). Morris said they could, everyone else said no.
So he was making up bogus patients to get the patient count up.

[Ericka_Jarett]

ahhh ok thanks, missed that part.

[1_mommy]

you think abby is going to skip rehab and drive to see morreti?

[ignutzz]

you think abby is going to skip rehab and drive to see morreti?

No.

[suzubeane]

you think abby is going to skip rehab and drive to see morreti?

No.Should those of us who just just want to speculate, make funny comments, or pose "what if" scenarios start a new thread ignutzz? Then those kinds of remarks won't stand in the way for the people who already know everything.

[ignutzz]

Should those of us who just just want to speculate, make funny comments, or pose "what if" scenarios start a new thread ignutzz? Then those kinds of remarks won't stand in the way for the people who already know everything.


:confused: WTF. IMO, I don't think she's going to go see Moretti.

[Eric's Wife]

1st part of the show.....

Thanks for the recap, birthday twin :)

[miaclear]

you think abby is going to skip rehab and drive to see morreti?

Can't see this happening. I think Abby's hit her rock bottom.

[Eric's Wife]

Can't see this happening. I think Abby's hit her rock bottom.

I agree. She seemed to feel awkward around him after that night.

[ignutzz]

I still watch the TNT ER repeats and right now they're showing the fall 2006 shows (infant joe, neela as surg intern, gates joins full time, the big Ames story etc) and I'm wondering a few things:

Although they made a passing remark that Gates is dyslexic, they never seemed to finish off the storyline. For a while they were building up the this big momentum to some sort of cataclysmic event caused by Gates not being able to write/read and it seems like they just dropped it. Is it ever going to get addressed again or what?


The episode I just watched had Abby meeting an older guy at Ike's while waiting for Luka. There was a lot of speculation that this character was going to have an important connection to Abby and yet nothing ever came of it.

It seems really strange to me that two major stories have been dropped liek this. ER tends to be really good about keeping their threads going, even when it gets really tangled. There is little in dialog or visuals that is not deliberate. Something you might think is a throwaway line ends up being a huge anvil in retrospect. Eh, maybe if they end up with the 15th season because of the strike they'll come back to this stuff.

[maplekitty]

oh yah, i remember that old guy. she met him in a bar right? nothing ever came of that, and i was thinking maybe it was her dad or something??

[ignutzz]

Yeah, that was the rumor. Because he came back to the hospital looking for her. Plus, during their initial meet up he mentions Oklahoma (where's Abby's mom was) and a few other things that made it seem like he had an agenda.

[miaclear]

I really thought that it was her dad. Maybe I just made that up in my head because it seemed like it was going there. weird.

I remember the Gates reading issues too.

Another one I remember was Morris snorting something in the bathroom early on during his time in the ER. Like he was going to be a functioning druggie or something. I don't think anything ever came of that either.

[Kay]

There was an episode where the old guy from the bar approached her on the street and confessed he was her father. I remember him telling her he had been in contact with her mother and knew that she became a doctor. Abby became extremely upset and wouldn't even talk to him. She hurried away from him and got in a cab.

[Ericka_Jarett]

Was just doing a little searching on the web and it shows the following characters as around for 2008:

Abby
Neela
Pratt
Sam
Morris
Gates
Crenshaw
Zelinsky
Grady
Dupree

Probably some others too, but these are for sure back

[ignutzz]

There was an episode where the old guy from the bar approached her on the street and confessed he was her father. I remember him telling her he had been in contact with her mother and knew that she became a doctor. Abby became extremely upset and wouldn't even talk to him. She hurried away from him and got in a cab.
Thanks! I totally didn't remember that happening. I think that episode might become up in the TNT repeats so I'll have to pay attention.

Was just doing a little searching on the web and it shows the following characters as around for 2008:

Abby
Neela
Pratt
Sam
Morris
Gates
Crenshaw
Zelinsky
Grady
Dupree

Probably some others too, but these are for sure back
I'm drawing a complete blank on Grady and Dupree - are they the interns?

[Ericka_Jarett]

Dr. Paul Grady : http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1483339/

Julia Dupree: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0043855/

[ignutzz]

Ah ha, now i remember. Thank you!

[manda_kate]

The episode with Abby and her Dad just replayed on TNT. She basically told him she wanted nothing to do with him, got in a cab, and drove off. I always wondered if they'd ever go back to that story-line.

[Sazoo]

FYI, on Christmas Eve TNT is showing 9 ER "Christmas" episodes back to back (1997 - 2005). I think the 1997 episode begins at 10 a.m., or something like that.

:)

[njdiva]

Since I have been on vacation, I have been able to catch the old episodes on TNT and remember how much I enjoyed the original cast and the storylines.!! (compared to these newer episodes)

Did anyone catch the new preview - it looks like Jeanie Boule (actress - Gloria Rueben) is back. Looks like they are looking for anything to boost their ratings... :rolleyes:

[Ericka_Jarett]

I just looked it up ad she is slated to be in the 1st episode of the New Year. Not sure how long she is staying, she has been gone from ER for 7 yrs already. If you recall she left to take care of her adopted son, so she could be returning now. Would probably feel weird since most of the staff she knew is gone now.

[1_mommy]

can you refresh my memory? who is Jeanie Boule?

[njdiva]

Jeanie Boule was a physician's assistant on ER who contracted HIV from her estranged husband. She then fell in love with the police officer and later married him (sidenote: the same actor who plays Bailey's husban on Greys Anatomy) and they adopted a child.

Here's a link to a recap of her character:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanie_Boulet

Here's an old pic on the set of ER:
http://home.att.ne.jp/wood/daisy/er/ercast2/er_gloria_reuben.jpg

[1_mommy]

thanks, i remember her now!

[nuhmah]

I always loved her character - but I agree that it could be a little weird to have her back now.

[PinkMartini]

Anyone know if/when E.R. will be back this season?

[DaniML]

ER
Expected to shoot 6 new episodes to begin airing on April 10.

Source: After the WGA Strike (http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Wga-Strike-Favorite/800032698)

ETA: I think this is the last season, so I'm glad they're coming back with a few epis.

[PinkMartini]

So who was it ladies? Sam or Pratt???

For some reason I think it's Pratt - they just built him up in this last episode. Getting promoted to chief, getting engaged, ect. I haven't heard either were leaving the show so I honestly have no idea :confused:

[allyray231]

I say Pratt

[thedoorchick]

I say neither. I bet we'll come back in September to find that for some reason neither of them decided to ride along.

[maxandmolly]

Was Abby far enough away when it exploded?

I read somewhere that since next season is expected to be the last, they are looking to "catch up" with many of the characters who left over the years. Who are you hoping to see make an appearance?

[JackieO]

so my DVR apparently went on strike and refused to record ER...can anyone give me a brief rundown of what happened...and where I can find the episode online? NBC.com only has clips!

[Sazoo]

Anthony Edwards returns to ER in a flashback in November, according to this article:

Anthony Edwards Returns to ER (http://www.comcast.net/articles/tv/20080904/TV.ER.Anthony.Edwards/)

:)

[thedoorchick]

Oh my God, ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME???!!!

:mad: :mad: :mad:

[Ericka_Jarett]

Not surprising really. Figured a flashback show or 2 would be in this season since it's in it's final season. I have watched since day 1. I know Carter (Noah Wylie) is suppose to be back too. Maybe Carol and Doug will have a scene with the twins in there, who knows.

[thedoorchick]

I have also heard there are supposed to be a number of past star cameos, which will be cool, but what a way to start the season - UGH!

[njdiva]

So did anyone watch last night's season opener???
Unfortunately, I was watching that boring Grey's for two hours and forgot to set my tivo. But I did watch it online (the entire episode is available)...

This was a good episode and very touching!

Here's link if you missed it:
http://www.nbc.com/ER/video/episodes/

[maplekitty]

omg, did not see that coming!! I had no idea he was leaving the show, so that really made me sad!!!
(well that and preggo hormones, DH was laughing at me cause I was totally bawling!)

[Sarah]

Can someone post a recap in white or direct me to one?

[njdiva]

omg, did not see that coming!! I had no idea he was leaving the show, so that really made me sad!!!
(well that and preggo hormones, DH was laughing at me cause I was totally bawling!)

I had heard that a primary character would be leaving the show in the first episode but did not know it would have been him. And it was not only your preggo hormones - it was a pretty touching storyline...

Sarah - the show was a continuation from the season finale - ambulance explosion where Pratt and Abby were involved. Unfortunately Pratt was much more seriously hurt...

http://www.nbc.com/ER/

[Ericka_Jarett]

WOW!!!

Just watched the episode on-line (thanks for posting it njdiva) that was such a sad episode. I had to watch the season finale from last season to see what happened (DH doesn't like the show, but I have watched since season 1 so to see them online is a huge help to get me updated)

[JackieO]

omg, did not see that coming!! I had no idea he was leaving the show, so that really made me sad!!!
(well that and preggo hormones, DH was laughing at me cause I was totally bawling!)

right there with ya maplekitty!! i just watched it while DD was napping and was practically sobbing. Damn preggo hormones!:o

[manda_kate]

I thought it was a great episode. They said in a preview that "a fan favorite takes their final breath." I didn't know it would be him, though! But, I guess since it is the last season, they have to end things with everyone somehow!
I read/heard somewhere that Noah Wyle would be back, and there would be some sort of flashback scene with Anthony Edwards, but that George Clooney would NOT be reprising his role. I have seen every episode of this show, most multiple times, and am sad to see it come to an end.

[allyray231]

God just watched it-so so sad

[maplekitty]

I guess from an actors standpoint...if you've been on a show for 8 years, you'd rather have a death and a montage, so everyone remembers you...then to go down with the sinking ship in the final episode? No?
I mean, yah I love this show....but it's been on for SO LONG....it's lost its amazing appeal many many seasons ago. The final episode will be sad...but kind of like, okay we're ready.

Anywho...anyone think we'll see a Gates/Sam wedding?

[gayle]

I did not see that coming at all. So sad, even DH was crying.

[skyblu]

I cried, too, and I don't have any preggo hormones to blame it on. :o

[paiger]

I just watched it yesterday, and I couldn't believe it. I was sobbing! He was just so on top of the world at the end of last season. I was so bothered that I dreamed about his character last night like 3 times.

[hokiegirl]

Just watched last weeks episode and totally balled! He did such a great job.

[DaniML]

I just want to know why they couldn't give him a happy ending! It's the last season anyway!!

[njdiva]

So what does everyone think of the new castmember - Angela Bassett? Very interesting... I know there is also more to her character that we may find out in later episodes. You know - I have never liked Morris but the way he stood up to her was very impressive. It was sad to see how much he missed Dr. Pratt and what an influence he had on him.

And am I the only one who cannot stand Gates and Sam? But I have never been a fan of Sam since she was introduced on the show...so maybe it's just me!

By looking at the previews - looks like Abby's last show is next week.

[thedoorchick]

I actually really liked her. Too bad it's the last season and now they bring in someone I can get behind. She's just tough enough, but also fair.

I actually don't mind Sam and Gates. But, I suppose that might be because I'm just glad he's not with Neela anymore. I miss Ray!

I noticed that Abby's last show is next week. Who the heck is going to be left by the time the finale rolls around?

[Ericka_Jarett]

watching the episode online now and not quite sure of Bassett yet. Gotta say way to go Morris. Never really liked him but way to go on telling her off

Sam just keeps going all around the hospital, was waiting for her to hook up with Gates.

The final episode is probably going to be a really sad one.

[DaniML]

I noticed that Abby's last show is next week. Who the heck is going to be left by the time the finale rolls around?

THat's what I'm wondering! This is the final season and all the fav's are leaving???? Seems very odd.

[maplekitty]

I really liked Angela Basset's character.

All episode, I was thinking, OMG is she Pratt's mom and no one knew???? Just the way she was tearing up in the exam room, and during Morris' outburtst and then all that mom-to-mom stuff....but then they showed a picture of young child on her side table, so i guess not?

[manda_kate]

Pratt said several times that his mother died of cancer when he was younger.

[maplekitty]

Pratt said several times that his mother died of cancer when he was younger.

...or maybe that's just what he said.....

[manda_kate]

True...never thought about it that way. I guess it could happen! That would definitely make for an interesting story line!

[jarm]

I have a feeling that because the nurse said that she looked familiar, she's going to have had a child in the ER who died. My guess is that because they supposedly are bringing Dr. Greene back in flashbacks, it's going to connect to him.

[manda_kate]

Jodi!!
I like your prediction. Sounds believeable and interesting!

[jarm]

I've been trying to see if I can research her being on ER before, but coming up with nothing. Doesn't mean anything though...

[off2skl]

Good prediction. I didn't even think of that angle. Although after what she had said to the mother about not beign able to protect your children, I had a feeling she had lost a child.

[thedoorchick]

Good grief, am I destined to cry in every single remaining episode?

Although, I did read something yesterday that made me smile. It's been published in mags, but nevertheless, relates to future plotlines, so I'll put it in white.

Shane West confirmed to Entertainment Weekly that his character (Ray) will reappear this season, having been fitted with cutting edge prosthetics and been through months of rehab, and show no outward signs of disability. His presence will have a huge impact on Neela.

Maybe they will finally get together??!!

[Ericka_Jarett]

great episode last week. Loved seeing Shane West return, looks better now than when on the show as a regular.

Neela is just so stupid!!!!!!!!!! Will the girl forget about all the others and finally follow her heart and go with Ray. They look good together, she hasn't looked better with anyone else, aside from when she was with her hubby. And at that, it seemed a little weird.

Love how they introduced Ray back in, total surprise to Neela. Wonder if we will see him some more this final season.

[thedoorchick]

He's supposed to appear at least once more.

My opinion is that they'll end up together when it's all said and done. They're just teasing us for the moment.

I think she's a better fit with Ray than Michael, honestly.

[paiger]

I just watched the one with Ray. I have a vague memory that something happened to him, but I can't really remember. I looked back at the old episode guides and don't see anything. Can someone remind me?

[manda_kate]

Ray was in a car accident and lost both his legs. He was listening to a voice mail from Neela when it happened. I think it was after an ER Christmas party, and Tony and Ray were fighting over Neela. Ray was really drunk and didn't look before he walked into the street.

[paiger]

Was it last season? I need to find that episode. I thought I'd seen them all! I can't believe I missed such a big one.

[ignutzz]

Epi 21 of Season 14 (so two years ago).

Ray lost his legs at the end of the episode in which Luka and Abby get married.

[jarm]

Dr. Greene is back tonight! I am so excited!!!

[njdiva]

I must admit that last night's episode was one of the best episodes in a very LONG time...

[msnicolea]

SO SAD--I should never watch episodes of any show that deal with that particular subject matter. I got the worst night's sleep.

[princessenoire]

I must admit that last night's episode was one of the best episodes in a very LONG time...
I agree. Very compelling. It really made me want to keep watching.

[jarm]

It was good. It was sad. But it was nice to see Dr. Greene, Jerry and that other guy...the one whose arm was cut off by a helicopter.

[espresso]

whatever happened to Jerry? Was there a story behind his leaving?

[PinkMartini]

Can someone recap the Dr. Green episode for me?

I was on vacation for 3 weeks and either my DVR didn't tape that episode or my DH deleted it before I got home.

[Ericka_Jarett]

pink you can go here: http://www.nbc.com/ER/video/episodes/?vid=834161#vid=834161 and watch the episode. It will be available until the 4th of January. It was really good and worth watching. You get background on the new doctor and what happened in her life. It was a great episode.

[PinkMartini]

Thanks Ericka! I had no idea you could watch the episodes online!