The Biggest Loser - Season 4

[Sazoo]

I read in TV Guide the other day that Alison Sweeney is going to replace Caroline Rhea as the host on the upcoming 4th season of The Biggest Loser.

Partial article from NBC(www.nbc.com)
Alison Sweeney, one of daytime television's most beloved actresses, joins NBC's hit reality show "The Biggest Loser" as the new host of the weight-loss series, which will begin taping its fourth season this spring.

"Alison is an incredible talent and will bring not only a great fresh face to the show but a huge, loyal fan base," said Ben Silverman, executive producer and Reveille CEO. "We are thrilled and look forward to another strong season."

Sweeney has portrayed villainess Sami Brady on NBC's hit daytime drama "Days of our Lives" since January 6, 1993 and will continue to star on the series while hosting "The Biggest Loser." For her performance tackling a variety of controversial storylines from a rebellious teen to an accomplished single mother on "Days," Sweeney has garnered numerous award including The Soap Opera Digest Awards four times (1986, '98, '99 and 2001) for the role of "Favorite Villain," "Favorite Good Girl" and "America's Favorite Villain." Her television credits also include "Las Vegas," "Friends," and her memorable freak-out on the celebrity edition of "Fear Factor."

Since her debut as "Sami Brady" on "Days of our Lives," Sweeney has personally struggled with her weight issues, which she candidly discussed in her book All The Days of My Life (So Far), which was published in 2004 to critical acclaim. She currently maintains her slim look by running after her 2-year-old son and working out at Boot Camp as many days a week as her production schedule allows.

Does anyone know when the 4th season is going to start? The website says they're still casting for it...

[Katy]

They were just here in SoCal casting just a week or two ago. I thought it was a mid-season kind of show.

[jesseybell]

I don't think it will be on until the fall.

They usually are on the ranch during the spring or summer and then home by themselves in the fall and the finale is before Christmas.

I am glad that Alison Sweeney will be hosting it. I think it is more of an inspiration for the contestants to have someone who has struggled with her weight and succeeded at keeping it off (guess that mean's that "Sami's" pregnancy on DOL isn't because Alison is pregnant again)

[camberne]

I think Alison Sweeny will be great!! She certainly will be more fashionable than Caroline Rhea - I could barely stand to watch her!! I would have still watched, but it will be nice to see a fresh, gorgeous face... Ali has the most beautiful eyes! The casting call in our area (Norfolk, VA) was about a month and a half ago.

[udsweetpea]

I was just browsing MySpace and noticed Amy & Marty from last season are definitely a couple now.

[ez2luv]

I really like the show.

I know they work out for hours a day, but the weight they lose - its amazing...

Anyone bought the book???

[Sazoo]

I read in TV Guide the other day that Jillian is going to be back on season 4 of BL...except I think the article said there were going to be 3 teams instead of 2 this time, so maybe that other blonde chick (can't remember her name) is coming back as well?

[May27JnJ]

I love this show! I can't wait for it to start!!

[ez2luv]

when does it start????

[chefker]

Oh, I think I will MUCH prefer Alison Sweeney over Caroline Rhea!

Can't wait for it to start. I need some inspiration/motivation so I can kick myself in the butt.

I was just browsing MySpace and noticed Amy & Marty from last season are definitely a couple now.

REALLY now? ;) Do you have a link you could share? Marty was a cutie. :)

[udsweetpea]

REALLY now? ;) Do you have a link you could share? Marty was a cutie. :)

Amy's MySpace (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=38416488)

Marty is her first friend on there. They've moved to Nebraska together and now work as personal trainers.

[LDS Angel 19]

I read in TV Guide the other day that Jillian is going to be back on season 4 of BL...except I think the article said there were going to be 3 teams instead of 2 this time, so maybe that other blonde chick (can't remember her name) is coming back as well?

Yeah, three teams this year (Red, Blue, and Black). And I think the other chicks name is Kim.

[jennylou]

I love this show! Can't wait for it to start again. :D

[Kingdono]

September 11th it has a 2 hour premier. It seems so far away. I love this show I can't wait for it to be back on. I wish they gave you more information on the food programs and how they eat. That might not be as entertaining.

[southerner]

September 11th it has a 2 hour premier.
Sweet, thanks for the heads up.

[udsweetpea]

Looks like there are 3 teams this time and Kim Lyons is still one of the trainers. There's a preview of the show on the NBC site.

There's a special on September 4 called Where Are They Now? and they'll show if everyone kept the weight off. And we get to meet Suzy and Matt's new baby!

I'm so excited Jillian is back!!!

Do you think they'll re-air the premier? I'll be on a plane during the show. Yeah, I'm flying on 9/11.. eek!

[Kingdono]

Just wanted to bump this up as a reminder that BL is on tonight:D

[young lioness]

I'm looking forward to the new season too. I had seen commercials for the "did they keep it off" episode but I didn't realize that it was so soon.

I wish they gave you more information on the food programs and how they eat. That might not be as entertaining.

I just browsed to Poppi's MySpace (the one who was the Biggest Loser of the "at home" group last season) from Amy's MySpace and she has information on what she ate (1100 calories a day with a certain mix of carbs/protein/fat) and her workout program (2 hours of cardio a day).

[udsweetpea]

I cannot wait to see Jillian kick some butt this season! She seems so much more hardcore these days!

I thought the proposal last night was very cheesy. And distasteful... he did have a wife when he started his affair with Amy!

Looks like Matt didn't keep the weight off. But the entire show last night made me tear up. Pete is just an amazing human being!

[young lioness]

Before seeing the show I thought that the whole "did they keep the weight off" thing would involve comparing their lowest weight on the show to their current weight...not their starting weight on the show to their current weight. I mean...duh...you could look at any of them who weighed in and tell that they hadn't gained it all back.

[Kingdono]

I also though they were doing a you lost X pounds at the end of BL and now you kept off Y. I think most of them had actually gained back a little but they all looked so healthy and happy.

I saw an interview with Suzy and Matt and he gained "sympathy weight" while Suzy was pregnant. He said we are back at square one and have to do it all over again.


:eek:Marty was married!! I didn't know that and now I think it was very rude of him to do that.

[Sazoo]

It must be really hard (emotionally, as well as physically) to work SO hard to lose all that weight and then have to gain some of it back because you are pregnant. I hope Suzy is able to get back to her healthy weight without too much struggle. Matt, too! Although I thought they both still looked pretty darn good... :)

[jesseybell]

I was disappointed that they didn't compare your last weight to your current weight. Yeah, they all kept some of it off, but some have gained. While loosing 100 lbs is a HUGE feat, if you've gained back 50, America wants to know that. And I read in People that Andrea is the only one that has actually lost additional weight since her finale show. I think some of the people actually look better now - more healthy I mean. The winner of last season was way too thin at the end- I think he's put on 30 lbs and he looks more "normal".

I didn't know Marty was married either. The proposal was definitely cheesy.

Matt definitely put a lot of it back on - hopefully the 2 of them can take it off together.

I am excited for Jillian to be back - that is going to be awesome.

I think Alison Sweeney is going to be a good host - I hope at some point they highlight her struggle with her weight.

[udsweetpea]

Kai's blog about the proposal (I edited some of the language)

Ok, so I was gonna keep my big mouth shut- but we all know that it's not in my nature.

I just received a text message from a friend on the east coast that is watching the reunion show, I don't watch tv, don't even have it hooked up actually and if I did I wouldn't be watching anyway- other than to see how beautiful Pammy looks- anyway my best friend from highschool texts me telling me that Marty is going to propose to Amy on the show. Am I the only one who remembers Marty's WIFE!?!?!

ok, so I get it, things happen people fall in and out of love, even when you are married and Marty and I had a long talk about this when Amy was voted off the ranch and I approached him with how I felt about what all of us ranchers knew was an ongoing affair- I mean he moved into her room for chrissake, we weren't stupid-anyway he explained it all, and as much as I would have made different choices (for example telling my wife before beginning a new relationship) things happen. I have to say that I saw Amy and Marty as they fell in love, as did all of us on the ranch and I do believe sometimes things just happen no matter how hurtful they may be to others, LIKE YOUR WIFE.

Here is what pisses me off about the situation; (yes, it's none of my business but so f*ing what?!) At worst Marty and Amy are using their relationship as a marketing angle at best they are being used by 3Ball and NBC. This publicity stunt will help to promote their new personal training business and they can market themselves as the new "Matt and Suzy" and NBC ever looking after more publicity and money is more than happy to oblige. Guess what people Matt and Suzy WERE NOT CHEATING on a SPOUSE with each other at the ranch MARTY and AMY were, why are we rewarding this behavior as though it were an ideal fairytale to emmulate? Fat or thin, this is tacky [stuff]. Again, I get it- sometimes you can't help falling in love, but you CAN help the choices you make and the sensitivity you show toward someone you loved enough at one point to MARRY. You could have the decency to not flaunt your affair in the face of a woman who sent you off to a TV show that was supposed to change both your lives, a woman who worked her [butt] off to hold down the fort at home, lose weight and become healthier while you were gone. A woman who loved you before you were "Marty from The Biggest Loser" when you were just "Marty a teacher from the mid-west."

I get that NBC could give a [crap] about this woman, they care only about $, but come on Amy and Marty show some sensitivity. Seriously what the f*** is wrong with people?



* If you don't remember his wife that's because she was edited out of everything except the cruise episode, where she was his secret guest waiting for him, imagine how he [crapped] himself when he saw her, talk about an awkward boat trip for EVERYONE*

Does anyone else remember from last night's show how the host mentioned they started dating AFTER the show. I guess they didn't!

[Hello Kitty]

I was disappointed that they didn't compare your last weight to your current weight. Yeah, they all kept some of it off, but some have gained. While loosing 100 lbs is a HUGE feat, if you've gained back 50, America wants to know that.
Ah, I think I was driving DH crazy because I would watch the little snippet about the person, tivo back to see their BL ending weight and tivo forward to compare it to their current weight. Yes, a lot of people gained weight back, but IMO it comes from an artificially low/unmaintainable weight (their final weight on the show) and it's to be expected.

I wonder if the producers didn't choose to do it that way - in part, trying to mask how unrealistic these losses are in the first place, and also to make people not feel bad about gaining weight?

[udsweetpea]

Kai has also mentioned in her blog that most of them starve themselves the week before the finale and even do things to cleanse their colon in order to lose a bunch of weight at the end. Everyone always looks so sickly at the finale, so I'm glad to see them gain some weight back.

[Sazoo]

Kai has also mentioned in her blog that most of them starve themselves the week before the finale and even do things to cleanse their colon in order to lose a bunch of weight at the end. Everyone always looks so sickly at the finale, so I'm glad to see them gain some weight back.This does not surprise me (they are in a competition to win a lot of money, after all - plus they are on national TV), and I too am glad to see them gain a little bit of the weight back after that final weigh-in. They all look much healthier now. :)

I had forgotten that Marty was married during the show...I thought his proposal to Amy was kind of weird and tacky already, but now even more so. :( wish them well and all, but I think, due to the sensitive circumstances here it would have been better to keep their proposal more private. *shrug*

[young lioness]

* If you don't remember his wife that's because she was edited out of everything except the cruise episode, where she was his secret guest waiting for him, imagine how he [crapped] himself when he saw her, talk about an awkward boat trip for EVERYONE*

At the time they aired the episode where Marty was voted off, I thought it was kind of weird that they showed him going home to see his students (in the middle of the summer when school was out) instead of his family/friends. Now that I know the situation, I guess maybe things weren't so good between him and his family/friends (not just his wife) at that point...I can see how that would happen.

I agree that people looked more healthy than on their final episodes, I just find it weird that they made a whole big theme of "did they keep the weight off" and then only looked at it from their first weigh-in until now.

[cbiggers]

That just really bums me out about Marty AND Amy. That just isn't right and then to not even have enough decency to do the proposal in private. I hope his ex-wife has moved on and is happier without him!

As for how they did the weigh-ins (other than it being super cheesy w/ the "Did you keep the weight off" chant), I thought it was a good way to do it. Like others have said, most of their weights were so unrealistic during the finales. It's nice to seem them looking and living "normal". I think they all did great and, IMO, they have kept the weight off. I mean, no one gained back 100 pounds or anything!

[taraw]

I was watching this special and fell asleep towards the end so I missed the proposal. I am bummed to find out that Marty was married while on the ranch though.

I was hoping that this special would show Dr. Jeff. He was always one of my favorites. Anyone know how he is doing or if he kept the weight off?

[Sazoo]

I think they all did great and, IMO, they have kept the weight off. I mean, no one gained back 100 pounds or anything!Well, no one that attended this reunion show, anyway... :) I find myself wondering how a lot of the other contestants who we didn't see in this episode have done with keeping the weight off.

[Oakley]

I love this show!! I am SO glad Jillian is back- she is a badass!!

I guess this show has a special meaning to me because in May my brother died from complications after he had gastric bypass surgery. I SO wish that he had gone on a show like this, or tried harder (he DID try WW and others) to lose weight the natural way. It is just so awesome to me that these people put so much effort into their weightloss and really strive to help others so they don't get to that point.

Wow- I forgot that Marty was married! How tacky to propose on tv then. Sheesh!

[AttyGrl74]

I didn't watch that much of last season - primarily I tivoed it and then fast forwarded to the weigh-ins and vote-offs.

But since Jillian is back - it is SO ON!

[Kingdono]

Just a reminder this starts tonight with the 2 hour premier

[westamp]

I was hoping that this special would show Dr. Jeff. He was always one of my favorites. Anyone know how he is doing or if he kept the weight off?

I was wondering about Dr. Jeff too! He was my fave!

[Chris~n~Jen]

Just a reminder this starts tonight with the 2 hour premier

Thanks for the reminder. I had totally forgot. :)

[AttyGrl74]

Dr. Jeff has a website! Dr. Jeff (http://www.drjeff.tv/), although who knows how old the photos are!

[maplekitty]

so excited for tonight!
anyone else thinking about starting their own "biggest looser" weight loss plan while the show is on?

[jennylou]

I'm so excited! It's at 9 tonight, right? Or is it at 8?

[Chris~n~Jen]

so excited for tonight!
anyone else thinking about starting their own "biggest looser" weight loss plan while the show is on?
Yes, actually!

I'm so excited! It's at 9 tonight, right? Or is it at 8?
It's on at 8 by me and it's a two hour special. :D

[jennylou]

Great first episode. I'm so happy that the first contestant is doing so well at home. :)

[Chris~n~Jen]

It was a good episode. I like the three team twist. Can't wait to see everyones expressions when they see the black team. Even though I knew they weren't going anywhere, I was still crying when the now black team were not picked. They all looked so crushed and I felt so sorry for them feeling that way.

Ok, can I say that I was just on the biggest loser website and noticed that they are still accepting applications for the next three days. I'm seriously sitting here thinking about sending in a tape. :o

[Ericka_Jarett]

We watched tonight. Like the 3 team twist. It brought back memories of school days when you were waiting to be picked and then when you get settled for, felt so bad for the black team not being chosen, but then to see the twist was great.


I can't do a biggest loser program now since I am pregnant, but after the twins come DH and I are going to work on losing weight together so we are both healthier and more energetic.

[udsweetpea]

Does anyone know if there will be an encore presentation of tonight's episode? I missed it.

[tgr68]

Yay! I love this show! It's one of the very few reality shows I'll watch because it's focused on healthy habits and changing people's lives in a positive manner rather than catfights.

I'm a little sad to see Caroline Rhea gone, but Allison will definately be a great addition. I cannot tell you how physched I am that Jillian is back. The twist with the 3rd team is going to be awesome!!

I really enjoyed the first episode. I was amazed at Jerry's and Kae's weigh-ins tonight. I realize that a lot of it is probably water weight, but the numbers were shocking, especially considering that Kae is one of the smaller contestants starting out.

Looking forward to next week already! :)

[LeslieR]

I've watched epis here and there of the show before, but never all the way through. Did they really lose all of that weight in a week??? How can that be healthy?

[annielynn]

Great episode! The twists added this season are great. I think that Allison is doing a great job.

Leslie - I am no doctor or trainer but I think that most of the weight that was lost was water weight. It will surely slow down for the next weigh in.

[lauren f s]

I started watching reruns of last season on the Style Network while I was on maternity leave and quickly got hooked.

I loved last night's episode! Since I've only seen one season, and never Jillian, is she always like that? Because I kept thinking she is one crazy, scary b!tch (but I think I'd want to be on her team)!

[young lioness]

I cried when Jerry was the first one to reach a trainer. I hope he stays on for a while and does well. I like him. (Although I don't think he will end up being "the biggest loser" only because he has less to lose than a lot of the other guys.)

[May27JnJ]

Damn IT!!! I missed it! I HAVE to remember to set my DVR.

[Ericka_Jarett]

Leslie - a lot is water weight, but you can lose actual fat too. When I started the GD diet when pregnant with Easton I lost 10lbs in about 1 1/2 weeks, my doctor said it was ok. By the end of the pregnancy I only gained that 10 lbs back.

[May27JnJ]

Oh yeah! My DH stopped drinking soda and started drinking water only and lost 6.8lbs

[ausi2b]

Jillian is hard core, but I love her! SO glad she is back!

I think Allison Sweeney (who I keep calling Sami - darn it!) is going to do a great job. She has struggled with her weight on camera for years, and I can tell she just feels for these people. A few times I could have sworn she was tearing up (when she had to send the "black" team home - even though she knew they weren't going anywhere!!)

[jennylou]

Leslie - sure, some is going to be water weight. But, in addition to that, they are in a situation that sets themselves up to lose large amounts of weight. If you were eating a perfect diet and exercising for like 5-6 hours per day, you'd loose that much too! So, while most of us can say, oh water weight, I lost X amount quick too, in that environment, you'll continue to see large losses each week. It always amazes me how much they lose, but I remember that this is the sole focus for them right now.

[jennylou]

Jillian is hard core, but I love her! SO glad she is back!

I think Allison Sweeney (who I keep calling Sami - darn it!) is going to do a great job. She has struggled with her weight on camera for years, and I can tell she just feels for these people. A few times I could have sworn she was tearing up (when she had to send the "black" team home - even though she knew they weren't going anywhere!!)

Actually, Jillian said she was the only one who knew that they weren't going home, so it's possible that Allison didn't know that they weren't being sent home.

ETA - If you want to see the black team WI, just go to nbc.com and you can watch a clip of them weighing in.

[jesseybell]

I am just so excited that the show is back on

I missed the first 1/2 hour - my darn DVR is acting weirdly.
From the previews for next week, it sounds like Bob was really surprised to see Jillian - He and Kim don't know either???

I really, really like the addition of Kim and Bob during the weigh-ins.

[Ericka_Jarett]

The woman, Kae that lost the most was in the Military so she really has discipline on her side. She is going to go far I think, even when she hits that plateau we all face when losing weight.

I can't wait to see the black team show up and shock the pants off the red and blue teams. It was priceless the look on Kim's face when she saw how much Kae lost in the 1st weigh in.

If you go to NBC.com/biggestloser you can see updates on a few of the past contestants. Those shown have kept the weight off, except for 1, but that is because she is pregnant now.

[jennylou]

I too like the trainers being able to be at the WIs. :)

And, yep, it sounds like the other trainers had no idea bout Jillian and the black team.

[eponymous]

I tuned in last night without having heard the news that there would be a third team, so that came as a huge shock to me. I'm looking forward to seeing how the boot camp approach compares to the gym approach, acknowledging that it's not a random selection. The early weight loss seems to depends so much on starting weights.

I thought that the display of food was melodramatic and not particularly helpful. Honestly, I've eaten six hot dogs at a time, and I weigh 105 pounds! (I don't think I could eat a gallon of ice cream, but I could easily eat a half gallon.)

[westamp]

So anyone know why Jillian was replaced last year? I was so disappointed that she wasn't there last year but she's back now.

Her training gets results because I recall, that other than last year, all the previous winners were on her team.

[LeslieR]

Leslie - sure, some is going to be water weight. But, in addition to that, they are in a situation that sets themselves up to lose large amounts of weight. If you were eating a perfect diet and exercising for like 5-6 hours per day, you'd loose that much too! So, while most of us can say, oh water weight, I lost X amount quick too, in that environment, you'll continue to see large losses each week. It always amazes me how much they lose, but I remember that this is the sole focus for them right now.


Yeah, I would think the weight would just melt right off with that much exercise. I was just stunned that they lost that much in one week.


I was really touched at how the girl trainer (can't remember her name) was telling the paramedic girl she wouldn't let her quit and she was crying while talking to her. She clearly cares about these people and wants to help them which is just awesome.

[tgr68]

I cried when Jerry was the first one to reach a trainer. I hope he stays on for a while and does well. I like him. (Although I don't think he will end up being "the biggest loser" only because he has less to lose than a lot of the other guys.)

I really think Jerry is my favorite contestant this season, too, followed by Kae. :D

[jay&erinn]

I've watched the show sporadically throughout the seasons (DH isn't a fan of reality TV so he turns it when he's home) so I don't know the whole story. Why did Jillian leave initially? Was she forced out? They just seem so shocked to see her in the previews for next week.

[risa00]

I loved last night's episode! Since I've only seen one season, and never Jillian, is she always like that? Because I kept thinking she is one crazy, scary b!tch (but I think I'd want to be on her team)!

Yes, she's always like that and she is a yeller but she totally gets results!

[Ericka_Jarett]

Why did Jillian leave initially? Was she forced out? They just seem so shocked to see her in the previews for next week.

Jillian wasn't forced out from all the things I have read. She just had a lot of things on her plate that she decided to leave the show. She does a talk show in LA and other things caused her to decide to leave. Nothing was definitely as to what the other things were from what I read.

She was on The View yesterday. It was so funny. I was in the hospital waiting to get my glucose drink and she had Elisabeth, Sherry and another pregnant woman all doing pregnancy exercises and you could help but laugh at Sherry, she rolled off the exercise ball 2 times and Jillian was even laughing about it, yet trying to stay professional of course.

[maplekitty]

This season looks like its going to be great. I wonder how many of them were totally bummed when they pulled up to a college campus, and they have to sleep in one big girl, and one big boy dorm room? LOL Especially since the ranch from the last seasons was such a beautiful, "vacation" destination!! There won't be any couples hooking up this year if they all have to share rooms! haha



I love Jillian, she's an awesome trainer! I've love to do her workouts! All that outdoors stuff looked awesome!! Can't wait to see how much the black team looses in two weeks!

[GoCougs]

Does anybody know which "campus" they filmed this at in L.A.?

[Ericka_Jarett]

GoCougs - the building had Biggest Loser Campus etched into the stone, so doesn't look like it's a university at all. (Update: found this info on the Campus: The series location also changed from a million dollar ranch to a studio backlot aptly named the "Biggest Loser Campus". The setting feels a little more claustrophobic and it will be interesting to see how the producers adapt the challenges throughout the series to the more confined space.)

For those that missed the episode here is the recap:

Recap The Biggest Loser
A two hour Premiere - Let the Games begin
by Becca


The fourth season of The Biggest Loser kicks off its season premiere tonight. Starts out with America not knowing how this would work, and then they heard the stories and moved by the transformations. It’s all about turning hopelessness to hope. A new way of life for them all. Kim and Bob help the battle to who gets the biggest loser title. We get an introduction to a new team headed by Jillian Michaels and she’s tougher than ever. She is training them secretly off campus. 18 will compete but only one will bring home 250,000. A few competitors that face this difficult challenge includes Jerry a 62 year old the oldest person ever to be on the show, a set of twins and a Hurricane Katrina survivor.

Alison Sweeney is new comer host for this show. She herself as an actress has struggled with her own weight. The show begins at the competitors walk in the desert to meet up with each other and some of their emotional stories are revealed. Alison Sweeney welcomes them and asks “Are you up to the challenge? “ The first thing the competitors have to do is race each other to where Bob Harper and Kim Lyons, the Red and Blue team’s trainers. The first two people who do so are the captains and each of them has to choose five members to be on their team. The six remaining members who do not get picked are told that they are going home. Jerry was the first person to Bob so he became that captain for the blue team. Phil followed Jerry in suit and became the captain for the red team. They all went out to get Amber the final person to the finish line. Alison tells them all they are going to the Last Chance Diner and chat and learn about each other and think about the six people they don’t want on their teams. Jerry picks first and he chooses Kae, followed by Neil, Patty, Nicole, Ryan. Phil picks Bryan, Amber, Amy, David and Lezley. The two teams head off on the bus while the six remaining watch in disappointment, and mix feeling are shown. Until that is Jillian Michaels rides up in a motorcycle and shares with them that they are not going home that they are the new black team.

Welcome to Biggest Loser Campus: with no frills an no distractions, they move directly to the first dreaded weigh in They head to the gym and head to the dreaded scale. time for first Phil starts it off- before weigh in commercial starting weight is 403, Amber 395 lbs, David 368, Lezley-255lbs, bryan-346lbs, Amy 297 lbs, Jerry- 297lbs, Kae 225lbs, Ryan 374, Patty 280, Nicole 279lbs, Neil-421 lbs.

Jillian makes them move tires and trains them like crazy workouts- there’s no I can’t. She makes them do 20 jumping jacks because of an apology.13 days until arrival to campus. Bob and his blue team to the gym and he works them like anything. Kim in her gym is killing them with her workouts. They ran and Amber gets emotional and wants to go home. Kim believes in her and will work with her. Maybe the last but she didn’t quit. Bob goes over nutrition with his team-carbs early day, proteins later-high calorie go to low cal gum-drink plenty water. Kim talked about cal break carbs protein fat. Bob and Kim blind folds and moved them to tables loaded with unhealthy food, what they consume in a week. Bob and Kim threw it all on the floor. Done with the junk and ready to move on…back to Jillian’s team continues to work her teams hard. Ten days and still getting ready to show those teams up.

Teams are airport-goal weights Alison asked-challenge-first team to carry all access baggage –they have to lug a plane with their baggage across the finish line-winning letters from home and only the winning team gets the prize. Commercial comes as we see them take off to get all their luggage in the plane…blue has great lead as they pull their plane while red team finally gets all their bags on and takes the lead and wins first challenge and they get to enjoy their letters. Red teams read their letters and miss their families. Kim takes her team to last chance work out and she works it. Bob encourages his team as they go through their last chance work out. Patty got sick.

Alison explains at the final weigh in that the team wit the lowest weight loss will have to send a member home. Bob and Kim watch their teams endure the scale yet again. 1876lbs for the blue team 1964 red team-greatest percentage of weight loss Bryan-331-15 lbs, Lezley-255-246-9 lbs, Amy-297-287-10lbs, David-368-348-20lbs, amber-295-288-7lbs, Phil-403-377-26lbs Red team total- 87 total per 4.43 percent

Blue team- team has to lose more than 83 lbs-Patty-280-267-13lbs, Ryan 374-359-15lbs, Nicole-279-271-8lbs, Neil-421-399-22lbs, Kae-225-205-20 lbs, Jerry-297-266-31lbs-blue team wins!! Jerry out of all season has the biggest weight loss in one week! 109 lbs

Red team-goes home Phil is safe. Kim talks to them, as the team members complain about Amber and thinks that she let them down. Amber comes back and says Ill try and Ill give 100 percent.

Red teams takes there votes to send some one for first elimination-most votes have to go home. One vote for Amber, 3 more and she’s gone- one vote for Lezley, Amber does get three more votes so Amber goes home with four votes against her. Amber lost 65 pounds since being kicked off.

[jimmysgirl424]

Is tonight the episode where the black team will join the red & blue teams on the campus?

[rene']

Is tonight the episode where the black team will join the red & blue teams on the campus?

I'm thinking it must be, it's a 2 hour show tonight.

[ausi2b]

I was thinking it was 2 weeks, but if it is a 2 hour episode, then it is possible! Can't wait to watch :)

[Ericka_Jarett]

From TitanTv.com:

The immunity challenge has the red and blue teams racing up the stairs of a 10-story building. Then, the secret black team is revealed in the weigh-in room, creating a three-way competition.

[udsweetpea]

Loved the episode last night. And I'm so glad one of the women on the black team mentioned she was diagnosed with PCOS, something I struggle with every day. And PCOS is probably the reason why she's losing slowly on the show.

So happy to see the black team's results!!! I wanted to slap Kim for her golf clap whenever anyone else besides her team weighed in.

[jennylou]

Andrea - I was happy to see a fellow "cyster" on the show as well. However, I think she'll be the first to go on the black team unless she seriously starts stepping up on the loss. Five pounds IRL is great. Five pound on TBL is nothing in two weeks. I mean, look at that woman who started a bit heavier than her on the blue team - she's up to 25 pounds lost. While I know that PCOS can slow down your losing (and I've experienced it many, many times!) I would hope that the trainers/dr's that are working for the show would know the necessary diet for a woman with PCOS.

[udsweetpea]

I would hope that the trainers/dr's that are working for the show would know the necessary diet for a woman with PCOS.

I was thinking that too. I'll be really upset if Jillian doesn't address it soon, and if the woman is voted off early.

[LeslieR]

I was disappointed that Lezley (what were her parents thinking with that spelling??? ugh!) got sent home. I was hoping that the other girl would go. It really turned me off at how she stomped off during training.

[May27JnJ]

Yay for having a "cyster" represent! Losing is so hard. I know it's hard for her to see 5lbs total when everyone else is in double digits.

I didn't care if Lezley or Amy went home. Both of them should have in my eyes. Lezley whines and whines, and Amy walked out.

[jennylou]

I wasn't sad to see Lezley leave, but I can't wait for Amy to go home as well. I liked Amber way better than either of them. At least she stayed and tried.

I was happy to see that Lezley has continued to lose at home though - that's always a good thing. I hate when they do the flash forwards and they haven't lost anything.

[tgr68]

I was disappointed that Lezley (what were her parents thinking with that spelling??? ugh!) got sent home. I was hoping that the other girl would go. It really turned me off at how she stomped off during training.
I was too. I mean Lezlye didn't lose as much (by one pound IIRC), but Amy's attitude stomping out just irritated me to no end, even more than L's whining. The two of them were right about one thing though - now that Lezlye is gone, Amy will be next on their team.

[eponymous]

I thought that it was interesting how much less weight was lost this week than the first week. They were still very impressive numbers, but less eye-popping.

In prior seasons, did they compare the percentage of weight lost, as they are this year, or a direct comparison of the pounds lost? I feel like it was the latter, but I never watched regularly, so I'm guessing based on memory.

[miaclear]

I love Bob and Jillian together....When she jumped on him and swung her legs around his hips I just could only imagine the crazy trainer sex they('d) have.

Amber, Lezlye, Amy....all three of them IMO were poor picks for girl team mates. They all seemed to have bad attitudes about the whole thing. (ETA...once the work outs started).

[udsweetpea]

I love Bob and Jillian together....When she jumped on him and swung her legs around his hips I just could only imagine the crazy trainer sex they('d) have.

I thought Bob was gay, but you're right!

[sdianems]

I just have to say that I LOVE Bob's encouraging ways! If I was on his team (or a client) I would totally do what I could to make him proud and happy (and lose some serious weight) :)
Now, I think I could get into working with Jillian, too. I did like that the black team was going through drills on the beach. Very cool!
But the blonde chick/trainer...what is her name? I could not stand her! Although I did not like the way some of her team was whining and behaving, I did not see myself giving my all with her. Something about her was just not inspiring.
IMHO....
Other than that, looks like a good show!

[BumbleB]

I love Bob - I would want him to be my trainer. Kim is too soft, she even looks too soft for me. I could probably handle Jillian, but Bob would be more fun.

I was shocked at how little the red team lost compared to the other two teams. I can't figure out if it is just that they don't want it as much or if it has to do with Kim. I think she's not as forcefull as she needs to be. But the women on the red team just don't seem to want it that bad. Someone like Kae on the Blue team or Julie on the Black team, they really want it and have really strong reasons for wanting it.

I was happy to see how well Lezley (sp?) had done since leaving.

[miaclear]

Kim admittedly said she went easy on them during week two. Why would she do that? Especially after loosing week 1? No sense.

[udsweetpea]

Kim admittedly said she went easy on them during week two. Why would she do that? Especially after loosing week 1? No sense.

I was wondering that too. They showed the blue team really struggling working out and Bob really hammering it into them, and then it cut to the red team practically prancing around the gym whining and Kim saying she's been easy-going this week. WTH?

[westamp]

Kim has nothing over Jillian. And let's not forget, all of the previous winners were jillian's when she was on the show. Her method works. If Jillian wasn't in the picture, I'd pick Bob!

Bob, gay? Really? Can anyone verify that?

[lauren f s]

I would definitely want to be on either Bob's team, because I <3 him, or Jillian's, because I think she'd whip my butt in shape.

I've wondered, too, if Bob was gay or not.

[udsweetpea]

I always thought he was, and I swear I read it somewhere.

[maplekitty]

I love Jillian! I think she's the perfect combo of tough ass and softy. She knows when to be tough and when to give encouragement.

I've never liked Kim...blah. The red team just sucks, the girls' attitudes suck and that vendeta that the team captain has over the old guy in team blue is just weird. Dude, get over it! He's a 62 year old man...get over yourself!

I was sad to see that one blonde girl on Jillian's team do so poorly two weeks in a row. I really hope she pulls out bigger numbers.

[miaclear]

Ok...I had to google it because I just didn't believe it. And although I didn't come up with much other than similar talks in forums I found a couple posts that said BOTH BOB AND JILLIAN were Gay!

ETA>...not that it matters in the slightest. I just never got that vibe from either of them.

[sparkle&shine]

I always got the vibe that Bob was gay. I never got that from Jillian though. I would definitely want one of these two to be my trainer and not Kim. She wouldn't get me motivated enough.

[sem426]

I always got the vibe that Bob was gay. I never got that from Jillian though.

Ditto.

[jesseybell]

I always assumed bob was gay. Jillian I never really thought about it. I agree with all the pps - I wouldn't want Kim to be my trainer. She's way too soft.

[eponymous]

I always got the vibe that Bob was gay. I never got that from Jillian though.

Interesting - I found that vibe from Jillian to be fairly strong. Hadn't thought about Bob, though.

[Rosebud]

Does Allison Sweeney seem a little stiff to anyone? I'm surprised, seeing as how she's been on TV for so long, but she doesn't seem very warm to me on this show. Hopefully as the series goes along she'll find her groove.

[May27JnJ]

I think it's b/c her personality isn't as "wide open" as Caroline. But I do agree with you. I think she'll open up more.

[westamp]

Does Allison Sweeney seem a little stiff to anyone? I'm surprised, seeing as how she's been on TV for so long, but she doesn't seem very warm to me on this show. Hopefully as the series goes along she'll find her groove.

You're not alone with that thought. I found her to be somewhat distant and sterile. Caroline was way better. So what happened to her? She quit the show?

[lauren f s]

Does Allison Sweeney seem a little stiff to anyone? I'm surprised, seeing as how she's been on TV for so long, but she doesn't seem very warm to me on this show. Hopefully as the series goes along she'll find her groove.
She did seem a bit awkward when introducing the challenges. I bet it's just nerves and she'll relax as the season goes on. I hope so, because I love(d) her on Days of our Lives!

[ginadc]

Oh, Bob is so gay. I got that vibe from day one. Never thought about Jillian one way or the other...but gotta say, she's hot. (Unlike :: hawk spit :: Kim.)

Yeah, I find Alison Sweeney very stiff, too. I miss Caroline Rhea.

[westamp]

Oh, Bob is so gay. I got that vibe from day one. Never thought about Jillian one way or the other...but gotta say, she's hot. (Unlike :: hawk spit :: Kim.)

Yeah, I find Alison Sweeney very stiff, too. I miss Caroline Rhea.

I don't care if Bob is gay. I'd sign up to work out with him! He's great. However, between Jillian and him, I'd have to pick Jillian because she gets results (she's produced all the winners on the years she was on the show).

Kim isn't a very good trainer.

[Happy1]

I still love looking at Bob. *sigh* Gay or not he's one hot man!

Nikki :D

[lauren f s]

I still love looking at Bob. *sigh* Gay or not he's one hot man!
ditto!

[miaclear]

Why did they get rid of Caroline anyhow? I saw her on some show recently and she was looking heavier than normal....thought that might have something to do with it.

[udsweetpea]

Why did they get rid of Caroline anyhow? I saw her on some show recently and she was looking heavier than normal....thought that might have something to do with it.

Probably because she was downright annoying. ;)

[tgr68]

Okay, without giving anything away, I'm liking this first challenge! I'm just totally :eek: at who stepped up to the challenge and who didn't.

[tgr68]

I am so happy that the person who went home is doing so well! They look FANTASTIC!! :D :D

[maplekitty]

If I recall, third weigh-in is always is a low numbers week. They've had two or so weeks where their bodies are in shock, loosing water weight...and now they are starting to build up some muscles. It's totally discouraging, but next week might bring big numbers again.


SOOOO glad to see Jerry so thin, and fit and healthy. Dang, he had a pretty flat tummy and some nice looking biceps!

[Loud_curly]

After the shock of seeing him voted out, I could not believe how good Jerry looked! He's really an inspiration to so many folks - I wish he would have stayed longer!

[miaclear]

Wow....Jerry looked awesome! A hunk of a grandpa if you ask me!

[jennylou]

Allison Sweeney does seem a bit stiff, but I do think last night was better than say the first night, so progress. :)

I was pissed that Jerry's team sent him home - he'd lost the most weight on his team! These people don't know how to play the game. In the beginning you get rid of the slackers, towards the middle of the game you get rid of the potential threats to you. I'm so happy that he's doing well though. Actually, I'm glad that all three contestants sent home are doing really well. :)

[jimmysgirl424]

Am I the only sentimental fool who got teary-eyed when they showed what Jerry looks like today? :o I was just so darn happy and proud for him, and when they showed him with his grandkids, it really got me choked up. He looks awesome!

[udsweetpea]

Am I the only sentimental fool who got teary-eyed when they showed what Jerry looks like today?

The whole show makes me cry! So, no, you're not the only one.

[jimmysgirl424]

The whole show makes me cry! So, no, you're not the only one.

Yeah..I forgot to post that I also cried during the phone calls. When I heard that little girl ask her mommy why she couldn't come home, I lost it. :( (I think I've gotten alot more sensitive about these things since having DD)

[miaclear]

When I heard that little girl ask her mommy why she couldn't come home, I lost it. :( (I think I've gotten alot more sensitive about these things since having DD)

I could have posted this too! Although I'd change DD to DS ;) Crazy how being a mom really does change things.

[jesseybell]

Jerry looks amazing!!

Alison is a little stiff, but honestly I have always thought that - I don't watch DOOL very often, but a while back I used to think she not the greatest actress.

[rene']

I cannot believe they sent Jerry home. I was in total shock.

But, good for him, he looks awesome!

[lindybug]

I am so mad at the blue team... Why on earth did they send Jerry home?! What were they thinking?!

[taraw]

I too am upset that the blue team sent Jerry home. He was their leader and the one who had lost the most weight to date. I think that was a stupid move on their part.

I tuned in late last night and missed the challenge, can anyone fill me in?

[tgr68]

Taraw~There were 2 challenges last night.

The first one was a temptation. They were put in a room with a TON of food (I think the number was around 400,000 calories worth) and told they could eat as much or as little as they wanted in 4 minutes. The person who ate the MOST got a 3-lb pass at weigh-in. Patty from the blue team won.

The second challenge was a 100 meter dash. There were three heats. In each heat, a member of each team raced against a kid - kindergartener, 3rd grader, and 4th grader. Anyone who beat the kid counted as a win for their team. The team with the most wins got to call home. Red team won.

Blue Team~I was really irked with who they sent home as well. I told DH before the elimination room that they could send anyone but Jerry or Kae home, and I would be okay with it. I thought it would be unfair for them to send Neil home this week as well because of the whole temptation challenge thing. I love though that Jerry is doing so well at home. ITA with whoever said he was one hot grandpa! :o I have to wonder though what impact this will have at weigh-ins for the blue team.

[lauren f s]

I was bathing DD and missed the end. Why did they send Jerry home?

[udsweetpea]

Jerry seemed like a d!ck to me. "I deserve RESPECT". Why? You chose people like little kids did for dodgeball in gym class. You want respect for what reason?

[Hello Kitty]

I also didn't like how he was such an @ss at the end - I picked this team and thought the biggest loser would be on this team, but I don't think it is anymore.

And then he went on to hug people and be like 'good luck buddy' - just seemed very bitter. But he seems to have turned that bitterness around and into his workouts.

I wondered if the girl who ate the food would have a higher loss than the others. It would probably do them all well to get some more calories every other week or so to spike their metabolism and keep their body guessing.

[lindybug]

I was bathing DD and missed the end. Why did they send Jerry home?
No one gave any explanation why they picked him... It just didn't make any sense!

[villanelle75]

I think Jerry was a total jerk during the pre-vote conversation. To suggest that everyone owed their places there to him was silly. He may have been the guy who selected the team and he may be called the captain, but it seems like they are all equal members and I would have been a bit insulted to be told that I owed him something or that without him, they wouldn't be successful. For those reasons alone, I think he deserved to be voted out.

Beyond that, the guy lost so much weight up front, that I'd be worried from a strategy standpoint that he might have already seen the bulk of his loss. So I also see where they were coming from strategically.

[taraw]

Jerry seemed like a d!ck to me. "I deserve RESPECT". Why? You chose people like little kids did for dodgeball in gym class. You want respect for what reason?

When he said that he thought that he deserved some respect, I took it to mean that he was the oldest person on the show and yet he was the first person to the trainers in the race on day one. He also seemed to work his tail off and because of that he was the person on the blue team who had lost the most weight so far. I think for those reasons he did deserve a little bit of respect. But maybe some stuff is edited out for TV that we didn't get to see. I thought it was odd that no one really gave a reason for choosing him. Maybe he did act "high and mighty" and we just didn't see all of that in the show, but from what we did see, I think he seemed like a very nice respectable man.

[miaclear]

I kinda thought their reasonings for voting him out was his injury. Which sucks cause it was Bob's idea to do the piggy back rides.

[tgr68]

I vaguely remember at one point the team saying something about he would be the one who could actually go home and stick with the program - almost like the rest of them needed the extra motivation the show provided and he no longer did. :confused: *shrug*

[lindybug]

Well he has certainly done well at home... 88 pounds lost so far, I think. By the finale, he should be down at least 100 pounds! Which is actually a bigger percentage of weight loss than a lot of the other guys, since he didn't start out as big.

I think the blue team will suffer at the weigh-ins without him.

[udsweetpea]

I just got this bulletin from Amy, Season 3, and thought some of you might be interested.

THE BIGGEST LOSER SEEKING FATHER/DAUGHTER OR
FATHER/SON TEAMS TO LOSE WEIGHT TOGETHER!!!!

"Must have around 80- 100+lbss to lose each. Send us
an email asap include your name, ages, height, wt,
occupation, a picture of you both and your contact
phone numbers to....."

They can contact Brandon Nickens on MySpace or email him at
bjncasting@yahoo.com

[taraw]

I was dissapointed to see that the blue team had to send another person home last night. I am always rooting for Bob, I just love him. It was too bad that the red team won that challenge because their weigh in was pathetic!

So I wonder what next week is going to bring? Do you think that they are all going to be on their own for the week, with the campus shutting down?

[jennylou]

The red team's WI was pathetic. I've never seen them give immunity to everyone on the team and hopefully we won't see it again. One of them should have gone home.

[miaclear]

That really sucked. It wasn't even like the previous week where everyone seemed to hit a slump. Obviously the Blue and Black teams slump was just that....and their body caught up to them. The Red team is just sad. I wonder how they win all these challenges.

Should be interesting with campus shutting down. I wonder if they'll just send everyone home for a week, or into the real world of whatever city they're in? Loved seeing them at Subway...made me want a sub. Hmmmm... it is almost lunch time.

[tgr68]

I agree that it should have been the red team that sent someone home. I really think that the blue team got majorly screwed in that sense.

OTOH, it was the blue team's own under-estimation of the red team that put them in that situation. Bob was right about them not even trying the challenge.

Mine and DH's prediction for next week is that they will send everyone home for a week, and then come back for the weigh-in to see how they do on their own out in the real world. Of course, on the previews you still see the black team working out with Jillian, so maybe they're given the option of going home or staying as a team.

miaclear~Mmmmm Subway! I kept thinking through that whole scene though that I would be getting a serious scolding from Bob because I cannot have Subway without my Chipolte dressing! :o Oh well, maybe he could overlook it since I pile those subs high with veggies! ;)

[villanelle75]

I am always skeptical of reality show challenges where they don't reveal the prize until the winner is determined. It makes me think that maybe the change the prize depending on who wins. If another Red went home, it would have made challenges difficult at it would have been 6 to 5 to 3. It makes sense to me that they would have given a small to the Black, had they won (5 pounds) a slightly bigger prize to the Blues (7 pounds), or immunity to the Reds, to try and even out their numbers.

If the campus shut down means that they are totally on their own, with no trainer, I have to believe the black and blue teams will do so much better than the red team. However, since the red team has lost so much less weight, especially this week, they seem to have a huge advantage there.

[conneals]

From the previews, it looks like they have to take the training into the real world as they showed Jillian's team working out at the beach. I think it would be cool for them to have to camp out and work out. Wouldn't that suck!

I was really disappointed in the blue team last night. I think they are always trying to take the easy way out. While I love Bob, I think he needs to push them more and make them take more responsibility for their situation.

[miaclear]

miaclear~Mmmmm Subway! I kept thinking through that whole scene though that I would be getting a serious scolding from Bob because I cannot have Subway without my Chipolte dressing! :o Oh well, maybe he could overlook it since I pile those subs high with veggies! ;)

I had to laugh when the first girl ordered a six inch turkey on wheat...because that's what I order. But I'm sure she didn't put mayo and extra Italian dressing on it :o

[westamp]

I am always skeptical of reality show challenges where they don't reveal the prize until the winner is determined. It makes me think that maybe the change the prize depending on who wins. If another Red went home, it would have made challenges difficult at it would have been 6 to 5 to 3. It makes sense to me that they would have given a small to the Black, had they won (5 pounds) a slightly bigger prize to the Blues (7 pounds), or immunity to the Reds, to try and even out their numbers.

If the campus shut down means that they are totally on their own, with no trainer, I have to believe the black and blue teams will do so much better than the red team. However, since the red team has lost so much less weight, especially this week, they seem to have a huge advantage there.

I understood why they did this (not agreeing since the Red team sucked and Bob got majorly screwed) because if they kept sending red people away, Kim would be w/o a team to train. This sorta levels the playing field. I still say everyone in the Red Team didn't deserve the immunity!

[jimmysgirl424]

I think the black team made a mistake sending Jim home. This early in the game, you need to send home the weakest people, not the ones that have the potential to pull in big numbers for your team! Isabeau should have been the one. Oh well.

Is anyone else constantly amazed at how well every.single.person. who has got sent home so far has done on their own losing weight? I just get blown away every time I see the transformation; its so inspiring and great to see. Jim looks fantastic and I can't believe he has lost 123 pounds!

The black team remains my favorite. I want the biggest loser to come from them.

[jennylou]

I agree that he wasn't the wise person to be sent home, one of the girls would have been a better choice. However, those girls were playing the game and knew that if there were less of them next week, they'd likely get picked off easier. I don't think any of them have done all that stellar yet. Getting Jez involved to avoid a tie was smart, and Jez likely did it to save his own ass just in case they go to elimination again.

I too am amazed by all the transformations - truly inspiring seeing them do it at home. :)

[nekopie76]

Biggest Loser Fans ... I need help!

3 weeks ago during Bob's Trainer Tip (during one of the commercial breaks), he was promoting an exercise ball. I thought he called it a physio ball but turns out that isn't the name. It looks like a smaller version of an exercise ball. It has a rounded bottom and a flat (think platform) for a top. Apparently, you use it be build up your core. I want one but no one no where knows what I am talking about. Do any of you? If so, what is the real name?

TIA!!

[KK812]

Here you go (http://www.target.com/Bosu-Balance-Trainer/dp/B00012PDMW/qid=1192031898/ref=br_1_2/602-8849328-6306249?ie=UTF8&node=268629011&frombrowse=1&index=tgt-mf-mv&field-browse=268629011&rank=pmrank&rh=&page=6)

[tgr68]

I was impressed last night with the big numbers all 3 teams put up last night. It was insane! I think I was most excited though that Hollie finally put up a large number - 8 pounds! She has seemed so frustrated in the last few weeks with her 2 and 3 pounds.

Again, I'm baffled as to why teams are sending home their big losers this early, but I guess if they are all doing it, they'll still remain relatively even. *shrug*

[Nanner]

While you're all right that you usually shouldn't send your biggest loser on the team packing this early, I can understand why they sent Jim home. Two reasons:

1. As the pp said, the girls knew that if one of them went home, the rest of them probably had no chance of making it through to the end. The men always seem to pick off the women.

2. They had to break the twins up. Those guys would always vote the same way to save one another, and it just wasn't safe for any of the other members as long as they were both there.

[sem426]

For once last night, I actually agreed with Kim's position about training/eating. I think she was right to say it was Ok to have a drink. Everything in moderation. When you forbid people to have things or make them taboo, that is when they will binge on it. The only way they are going to be able to make it in the real world, is to learn about moderation. One beer isn't going to ruin their diet, if that's what they want and account for it on their diet plan.

[nekopie76]

kk812 Thanks!!!

[tgr68]

Oooooooh! I have a feeling that Kim will be ripping her team a whole set of new ones after that.

[cbiggers]

Oh, it'll be ugly! I think it was a total wussy thing to do to force a tie. Duh! They knew the Blue team would pick Phil! I was sorry to see him leave!!!!!

[jesseybell]

I was sorry to see Phil go as well - I thought there was potential for him to be the Biggest Loser. Though saying that, I am happy to see that he did so well at home. I bet by the finale he'll look really good. For someone of his size, he wasn't losing the pounds each week like the other huge guys. But he did well at home.

[miaclear]

I missed it....what happened?

[lindybug]

From nbc.com:
Bob was upset that his Blue team had yet to win a challenge. He was pushing his team and getting more and more frustrated with how lazy they were becoming.

All three teams went to the beach for their next challenge. The object of the game was to test strength endurance, something all three teams needed work on. The winner of the challenge was going to receive videos from friends and family back home. The challenge began and each team had one player start. The chosen player had to carry beams that were a percentage of their weight across the beach, when they got tired, they dropped the weighted beams and the next team member was set to carry the beams with their percentage of weight. The Black team started strong. The Black team started strong, but the Red pulled ahead and finished with the help of Phil’s strength endurance. Phil led his team to victory and now the Red team was anxious to hear from their loved ones. The Red team watched videos sent from home. Each team member got emotional as they listened to the messages from their friends and family.

Kim was losing patience with her Red team during their workouts. They were not giving one hundred percent. Things escalated when David walked out of the gym after Kim tried to get him to run faster on the treadmill.

Jillian had the terrible job of telling Hollie that her step-dad called with the news her mom’s cancer came back. Hollie rushed home later that night to see her mom and promised she would come back. Alison broke the news to the teams that Hollie’s mom had passed away shortly after Hollie arrived back home. But, the weigh in still had to continue. All the teams had Hollie on their minds.

The Blue team was excited about their results from the weigh in. The Blue team had lost a total of 31 pounds with a 2.74% of weight loss. Kim was very disappointed at the Red team’s weigh in. Her team didn’t pull in as high of numbers as she was pushing for. The Red team lost a total of 16 pounds and had a 1.28% of weight loss, putting the Blue team ahead. The Black team was happy with their results at the weigh in. They lost a total of 30 pounds with a 2.36% of total weight loss. The Blue team was thrilled to have won the overall weigh in.

Emotions ran high as the Red team had to think about who to send home. When Kim said Phil and Bryan were the strongest ones on the team, Amy felt Kim was telling the Red team to send her home. During the elimination round, the Red team came to a tie between sending Amy or Phil home. That meant it was up to the Blue team to decide. They showed up with the name of team member who would be going home. The Blue team chose for the main competitor, Phil to be eliminated and go home. Phil broke down and cried. He told his team it was an honor for him to be on the show and told his team to remain strong.

I do not trust Amy at all!!!

[miaclear]

Oh wow! Thanks for posting.

[taraw]

I cannot believe the red team let it go to a tie. That was a terrible mistake. Without Phil the team is going to be hurting, big time. Amy should have been the one to go home, I do not like her at all. And like lindybug stated, I don't trust her. Plus did you see how pathetic she did on the challenge? She carried her beams a total of like 23 feet. I don't think the red team will be winning any more challenges without Phil, he was the one who won all of those challenges for them.

What a terrible time for Hollie, thank God she made it home in time to see her mother before she passed.

[jennylou]

I also don't like Amy. She's going to go home before long, I don't see her making it to the end, she's not lost consistently enough.

Now that there are only three black team members left, do you think they'll start combining teams again, yet? I hope not, I want to see that whiny snot go home before they combine teams.

[udsweetpea]

Now that there are only three red team members left, do you think they'll start combining teams again, yet? I hope not, I want to see that whiny snot go home before they combine teams.

By the looks of the previews, that looks to be the case.

[jennylou]

Well, boo. :(

BTW, I'm happy that Julie, the PCOSer has seemed to have hit a nice stride lately.

[BumbleB]

I don't want to see them combine teams yet, I want to see the red team suffer. They deserve a bigger downfall. I too, can't stand Amy. I also was very unimpressed with the fact that the red team doesn't seem like they have as strong a bond as the other teams. There was no emotion at last nights vote except when Phil left. I do agree with Kim that he and B were carrying that team.

Kae is doing awesome, she has such a great mental background for this kind of weight-loss, I think she just struggled before the show to get going on it. Like so many of us do. I'm sure she won't be the biggest loser, but out of all the women I think she is doing the best right now.

[udsweetpea]

BTW, I'm happy that Julie, the PCOSer has seemed to have hit a nice stride lately.

Me too! I always get teary-eyed when she gets weighed in.

[westamp]

I also don't like Amy. She's going to go home before long, I don't see her making it to the end, she's not lost consistently enough.

Now that there are only three black team members left, do you think they'll start combining teams again, yet? I hope not, I want to see that whiny snot go home before they combine teams.

Amy should have left the first time they faced a vote off based on her suck-y attitude (walking out on a work out?!?!). It looks like she got into Bryan's head (like she did the first time w/ that other woman) to force a tiebreaker after Kym specifically told them she did not want that.

She is the least deserving of the whole group to stay there. Plus the red team will never win anything again. It would be interesting next week when they reshuffle. I'd like to see who Amy gloms onto. I hope the other groups show more solidarity and vote her sorry self out.

[risa00]

I agree that Amy should have been the one voted off, but it really wasn't Kim's place to say who should go. She's a trainer and her job is to motivate her team and get them to lose weight. We knew David was exempt from being eliminated. Then Kim said that Phil and Bryan were pulling the team and if they were gone, then the rest of the team members would be picked off one by one. She did imply that Amy should be the one voted off since it didn't leave anyone else. Again, I agree it should have been Amy but it wasn't her place to say that.

[jennylou]

Risa - I disagree that the trainer shouldn't speak up. They have in cases like this before. Trainers don't want to see a tie. A tie means you allow another team to determine your fate - that's a lot of power.

[cbiggers]

I think the show is pushing for the trainers to be MUCH more involved this time around. They were never at weigh in's before this season and they were not usually with the team when they deliberated who would be eliminated. I like that they are more involved. They also can be somewhat objective and so emotionally involved as the contestants. Kim was right. The red team doesn't stand a chance in challenges since Phil is gone. Of course, it may not mean that much if they are mixing up teams this week anyway!

[conneals]

I think the show is pushing for the trainers to be MUCH more involved this time around. They were never at weigh in's before this season and they were not usually with the team when they deliberated who would be eliminated. I like that they are more involved. They also can be somewhat objective and so emotionally involved as the contestants. Kim was right. The red team doesn't stand a chance in challenges since Phil is gone. Of course, it may not mean that much if they are mixing up teams this week anyway!

I agree. I like that the trainers are more involved, it makes much more sense in the long run your trainer is going to be there weighing and measuring you to see results.

I was a little offended by Kim's attitude in the workout. She doesn't need to stoop to their level and use the f word to them. Overall though, it won't matter soon anyway if they are mixing the teams up. I guess 12 people are left so it will be teams of 4?

[risa00]

Risa - I disagree that the trainer shouldn't speak up. They have in cases like this before. Trainers don't want to see a tie. A tie means you allow another team to determine your fate - that's a lot of power.

I agree with you that she should tell them to make the decision themselves and not leave it in the blue team's hands. I however think she went over that by implying who they should eliminate.

[lindybug]

It was kind of rude of her. And I didn't like her use of the F word either. That seemed to come out of nowhere!

Not a big Kim fan here.

[Nanner]

It was kind of rude of her. And I didn't like her use of the F word either. That seemed to come out of nowhere!

Not a big Kim fan here.

Didn't that rant she went on seem to be totally for the camera? She had a bit of a smirk the whole time she yelled at him. Even though her "cheerleader" training style wouldn't really motivate me at all, I respect that it's the way she approaches training, and that's fine. The tough girl act just came out of nowhere, and seemed really fabricated and unlike her.

Ever since she started last season, I always find myself rooting against the red team. Part of it is Kim, I think, but also that the red team always seems to be full of mouthy, mean people. Brian is the only red this season who hasn't had attitude. Jim was okay [eta: oops, I meant Phil], but he had that vendetta against the old guy, which was a bit crazy.

[cynder]

Uhhh... DH and I are very confused. Why would Neil want to throw the competition by training to gain weight. I don't follow the "game" part of it all that much so I would think that you would want to lose the most amount of weight no matter what.

[jennylou]

He did it because of how the teams were broken up, he basically knew that his blue team mates would stand behind him.

It was a balsy move and one that certainly didn't endear him to many people tonight.

I feel really bad about the guy who went home. :(

[cynder]

He did it because of how the teams were broken up, he basically knew that his blue team mates would stand behind him.

Ok, I get that his blue members would stand behind him but why deliberately gain weight??!:confused: Sorry, just mega confused and yet I think I should be getting it by now!

[udsweetpea]

I missed the show... can someone post who went home?

How much weight did Neil gain?

[cynder]

Jez went home and Neil gained 17 pounds.

[udsweetpea]

How does one gain 17 pounds in one week? That's insane!

How did Kim feel about the vote-off/tie last week?

[jennylou]

Ok, I get that his blue members would stand behind him but why deliberately gain weight??!:confused: Sorry, just mega confused and yet I think I should be getting it by now!

To force one of the black team members off - since that's who he was teamed up with. He could force a vote off of a strong competitor.

[southerner]

Surely Amy wasn't surprised she didn't lose any weight after that poker match :rolleyes:

cynder, That has actually been a very effective strategic move for many contestants in the past. Granted, he didn't mean to gain THAT much. He'll more than likely have big numbers next week and he got to send home a black team member and a big threat to him.

udsp, They didn't show Kim after the vote off. Also, Neil drank two gallons of water before the weigh in.

Wonder why the trainers aren't at weigh in anymore :confused:

[cynder]

Ok. I got it now! Just seems like a dumb and shady move.

Wonder why the trainers aren't at weigh in anymore
Not only that but why weren't the guys taking off their shirts at weigh in. Minor detail but we noticed that.

[udsweetpea]

Not only that but why weren't the guys taking off their shirts at weigh in. Minor detail but we noticed that.

I noticed they do that almost every season around this point, and then the women will start wearing tanks instead of sports bras.

[southerner]

Not only that but why weren't the guys taking off their shirts at weigh in.
Skin is getting VERY droopy?? You know most of these people end up needing plastic surgery.

Also, forgot how young Jez is. Good for him!

[cynder]

Interesting. I have mildly watched past seasons but since there is not much else on Tuesdays to my liking, we've been steadily watching this season and are getting into it.

[Nanner]

cynder, That has actually been a very effective strategic move for many contestants in the past.

Yes, but if I remember correctly, Matt and Erik did it when they had immunity, and they didn't do it to hang someone else out to dry.

Even though I don't really like Amy, I think she was 100% in the right leaving Kim for Jillian. I don't think I could keep training with someone who I didn't feel was looking out for me.

[Chylynn]

I just started watching BL this past season and have really enjoyed it. Last night Neal pissed me off to no end. That was so wrong!

How does one gain 17 pounds in one week? That's insane!


He drank two gallons of water just before the weigh in. Jerk off! I really want a black team member to win. He kind of confessed to it by accident. Everybody had thought Neil purposely gained the weight to throw the game. He came downstairs to defend himself and swore up and down that he no intentions for gaining the weight. It wasn’t until Neil started talked about how somebody would gain that much weight in one week, Hollie started asking questions and Neil’s cover was blown.

Ugh, Amy irks me to no end. She needs to go as well. She was so gross when she was gagging when she was eating the cookies. Such a drama queen.

[miaclear]

I hope they rip him a new one next week. 17 pounds!!!! I hope at next weigh in he only looses 15lbs. Would serve him right.

[ginadc]

Wow, I thought I was going to be all about hating Kim this week (Amy annoys me, but Kim was ridiculous in her whining about Amy's switching to Jillian for training being "disrespectful" of her). And then...Neil.

Yeah, I guess the rules allow for it, but that doesn't make it less sleazy and underhanded. And it's not like Survivor, where you just go back to your regular life at the end. TBL is supposed to be about a lifestyle change and getting healthy long-term, not slimy manipulation. I'm sure much more of that goes on behind the scenes than we ever see anyway, but this was just so over the top.

I want Jillian to kick Neil's ass into next week. (Which she could do without even breaking a sweat.) And I want Bob to refuse to train him. (I absolutely refuse to believe that Bob was secretly in on it.) I wonder if the show would permit him to do that? I mean, they told the contestants that they were now free to choose whichever trainer they wanted to work with, but I don't know if that means they'd let a trainer choose which contestants they wanted to (or not to) work with.

[sparkle&shine]

So did Jez do okay at home then? I missed last nights and it sounds like I missed a good one!

[lindybug]

Yes, Jez has lost 103 pounds so far. He looks great!

I am SO MAD about what happened. Neil is slimy.

[ginadc]

Yeah, he looks great! Apparently he moved to California, and I think he lost a total of about 108 pounds.

I was all on the Kae train, and I hate to think that she was in on Neil's sleazy scheme. But she would have had to be, because otherwise she and Hollie (black team) could have prevented David (red team) from voting Jez off. She was the only one who didn't eat in the temptation and she was so vocal about how this is about lifestyle change, not game play tactics, so it seems really hypocritical for her to then go along with Neil's plan.

I think I'm probably all about the remaining members of the black team at this point. Go Bill, Julie, Hollie and Isabeau!

[taraw]

...Ugh, Amy irks me to no end. She needs to go as well. She was so gross when she was gagging when she was eating the cookies. Such a drama queen.

Me too! I cannot stand her and she needs to be the next to go. She shouldn't have made it this far.

I think it was a pretty slimey move on Neil's part and I think he'll end up regretting it. I think he made a lot of enemies last night. I felt bad that Jez got sent home, he didn't deserve it.

[conneals]

I was so angry last night at the remaining blue team members. They should have stood up for themselves and voted with their new team members to get rid of Neil. I don't buy that they should be loyal to their former team mates. It is a game and you are on a new team now. Be loyal to that team and what the game is about...changing your mindset to be healthy. I know that the biggest loser wins $$, but that should not be the ultimate goal. The ones that have played to get healthy in the past have done well in the game.

Oh, and I don't think Bob was involved at all. I think he has too much integrity for that...plus he knows Jillian would kick his a$$.

[maplekitty]

ugh, Neil is such an ass!!!
Aside from Kae (and the old guy), I've never liked the blue team at all! They always seem to find the easy way out on challenges, or are tricksters, its always blue team people who are right in there to do the temptations...they just bug me!!

I guess I never watch the past seasons well enough to know that other contestants have done this...but a 17 lb weight gain is just horrendous!!!!!!! The fact that he was even willing to do that shows he doesnt care about a lifestyle shange at all!

[taraw]

Well, I think most of the weight gain was water, since he drank two gallons right before the weigh in. He'll probably loose all of it this week (which will stink because that will probably give him ammunity). I wish he would have peed his pants up on that scale from drinking so much water. He would have deserved to pee himself on National TV!

[ginadc]

People were talking about this on the Television Without Pity boards. Apparently there are two weigh-ins; a "real" one about an hour before they tape the one with the big beeping scale, and then the "for the cameras" one. So Neil would only have had to hold his water (heh) for that first weigh-in, then he could go pee like a racehorse before the taping because that scale doesn't "weigh" you, it just displays the numbers from the real weigh-in. So no risk of wetting himself in front of the cameras.

[sem426]

People were talking about this on the Television Without Pity boards. Apparently there are two weigh-ins; a "real" one about an hour before they tape the one with the big beeping scale, and then the "for the cameras" one. So Neil would only have had to hold his water (heh) for that first weigh-in, then he could go pee like a racehorse before the taping because that scale doesn't "weigh" you, it just displays the numbers from the real weigh-in. So no risk of wetting himself in front of the cameras.

I always suspected that they weighed in earlier so that the producers could then choose the order of the contestants based on dramatic effect. You knew they saved Neil for last on purpose. It always seems to work out like that.

[Smiley124]

After Tuesday's episode, there is apparently now a water logging rule in place. You can read more on Isabeau's blog on myspace.

[ginadc]

Where's that? I can't seem to find it by Googling or Myspace searching. Definitely want to read!

[Smiley124]

http://www.myspace.com/isabeaumiller

Sorry - I meant to include that in my post!

[BumbleB]

That episode made me so mad. I think there is going to be a lot of fall out from it next week. I really want Neil and Amy to go home.

I was so happy that Amy hadn't lost a pound. I don't think Kim was in the right with Amy, but I think Amy is one of the worst contestants I've ever seen on this show. She just doesn't know what pushing herself is and she is such a baby! :rolleyes:

My votes with the remaining Black team and I still like the 2 red guys.

[jennylou]

That was an interesting read. :)

[ginadc]

So Isabeau pretty much says without using so many words that she thinks (although she doesn't know) that Bob was in on it. I see her point, and she clearly knows a lot more about it than anyone on the outside, but I still hope she's gauged it wrong. But it was a fascinating read for sure! I wish Hollie's blog weren't friends-only--I'd love to read her take as well.

Very interesting about how the voting worked--that they might have been able to force a tie if someone (must have been Dave or Kae) hadn't leaked to the third team that they were voting for Jez, not Isabeau.

[miaclear]

ok....just reading her blog but when she mentioned how the black team was a family and did this and that and the other together....then she says "Threw up together".....um weird. I'm fairly certain she's meaning threw up from the constant hard workouts, but kinda odd.

[Nanner]

Okay, Isabeau is smokin' in that MySpace photo! Good for her!

[Smiley124]

Okay, Isabeau is smokin' in that MySpace photo! Good for her!

I read somewhere else that that's an old photo of her. Per the BL contract, she's not allowed to reveal her "new self" until the finale. (excluding the people she sees in her life, obviously)

[Nanner]

I read somewhere else that that's an old photo of her. Per the BL contract, she's not allowed to reveal her "new self" until the finale. (excluding the people she sees in her life, obviously)

Well, that makes sense. I was wondering why the powers that be would allow her to post a photo.

But still! She really is pretty.

[westamp]

So Isabeau pretty much says without using so many words that she thinks (although she doesn't know) that Bob was in on it. I see her point, and she clearly knows a lot more about it than anyone on the outside, but I still hope she's gauged it wrong. But it was a fascinating read for sure! I wish Hollie's blog weren't friends-only--I'd love to read her take as well.

Very interesting about how the voting worked--that they might have been able to force a tie if someone (must have been Dave or Kae) hadn't leaked to the third team that they were voting for Jez, not Isabeau.

I seriously doubt that Bob would encourage a 17 lb weight gain. I know he has more integrity than that.

[Emilie]

I read somewhere else that that's an old photo of her. Per the BL contract, she's not allowed to reveal her "new self" until the finale. (excluding the people she sees in her life, obviously)

It says that was from her "2005 album cover" - so it looks like it is an old picture.

That was a very interesting read - she does basically say that Bob was in on it because it would have never happened without his approval. Not sure what to think but I would hope he wasn't in on it - pretty crappy if someone who is supposed to be helping people would pull a deliberate sabotage play.

[Nanner]

I seriously doubt that Bob would encourage a 17 lb weight gain. I know he has more integrity than that.

I just watched that scene again where Bob finds out about Neil, and he has veins popping out of his neck and jaw as he's talking. That makes me think he was truly angry about it. If he was in on it, he's a great actor.

[risa00]

I'm trying to figure out, are Dave and Neil good friends? Why would he vote for Jez instead of the guy trying to rig the system?

[westamp]

I'm trying to figure out, are Dave and Neil good friends? Why would he vote for Jez instead of the guy trying to rig the system?

I think the trios were voting based on majority therefore if 2 on your team is going to swing for Jez, then you're outnumbered.

[risa00]

I think the trios were voting based on majority therefore if 2 on your team is going to swing for Jez, then you're outnumbered.


Correct, I imagine Hollie voted for Neil, Kae voted for Jez, which came down to Dave as the tie breaker.

[conneals]

This weeks epi was kind of interesting. Blue and Red together to get rid of Black last week, at least according to Amy. BTW, I really hate Amy. I think she is a poor sport and just plain annoying.

I didn't read Isabeau's entry, but I still don't think Bob was in on it. His role as a trainer would be in jeopardy to play the contestants like that.

I really hope Kae wins it all. She is awesome.

[cynder]

I think Bob was semi in on it. Granted this is all edited but he didn't seem all that disgusted and when he was talking with Kai, it seemed like he was trying to convince all that happened wasn't so bad.

[maplekitty]

i missed this week, did neil loose the 17 lbs?

[sem426]

i missed this week, did neil loose the 17 lbs?

He lost 33lbs this week.

[jmvan74]

I've been reading along and watching the show and honestly, I think what Neil did was wrong, but I don't think he was the only one to throw the weigh in last week. After watching last night, I think several people did it. They just weren't so obvious about it.

[jennylou]

I seriously doubt that Bob would encourage a 17 lb weight gain. I know he has more integrity than that.

No, but do you think he encouraged a no loss or low loss week?

[westamp]

No, but do you think he encouraged a no loss or low loss week?

I really don't know considering he never did that in the other seasons. Remember, Jillian's people always beat Bob's in the previous seasons. So if he did endorse something like that, wouldn't he have pulled it in the previous shows? It's nothing new here, Jillian's people outnumber Bob's...

[Nanner]

I've been reading along and watching the show and honestly, I think what Neil did was wrong, but I don't think he was the only one to throw the weigh in last week. After watching last night, I think several people did it. They just weren't so obvious about it.

Yes, but I suspect they were all in cahoots with one another.

[udsweetpea]

I think the right person went home last night. With the amount of weight he has to lose, it didn't seem like he was losing a lot each week.

So glad Julie is still around, my fellow PCOS girl! She's doing such an amazing job!

[southerner]

I have it TIVOed, who went home?

[nekopie76]

I have it TIVOed, who went home?

Ryan from the blue team.

[southerner]

thank you :)

[jennylou]

I think the right person went home last night. With the amount of weight he has to lose, it didn't seem like he was losing a lot each week.

So glad Julie is still around, my fellow PCOS girl! She's doing such an amazing job!

Julie is doing great now! I wonder if they didn't change up her diet after the first few weeks?

[conneals]

Does this season seem much more competitive in respects to the ultimate prize than the previous seasons? It does to me. There seems to be much more manipulation and scheming. I don't particularly like that part of it.

I'm still peeved at Neil for his weight gain, and now he sends his "best bud" home. Yuck.

[ginadc]

There were some really impressive losses last night, given how far into things they are. I agree that it was good that Ryan went home...he definitely didn't seem to be pushing himself the way Isabeau has been.

I love it when they reach the point that they start showing their "before" and "after" pics when they weigh in. It's interesting how some people who haven't necessarily lost as much look remarkably different from their starting pictures, and others (I'm thinking of Bill) don't look that much different. Don't get me wrong, he's lost 80-plus pounds and he looks great, but there were others whose before and afters were much more startling.

[catch]

I seriously dislike Neil for that stunt he pulled 2 weeks ago, but yesterday I felt so proud of him for reaching his 100 lbs lost mark. His b&a pictures were amazing!! I'm glad Ryan went home too and I'm glad he's doing so great. He has a Mark Ruffalo look going on now (MR is still way hotter, but go Ryan!).

[maplekitty]

Ugh, Neil just disgusts me! I hate even looking at him because he looks like the kind of guy that would push you in front of a bus if it meant saving his own life. He's such a creep. The look on Ryan's face when his "best bud" sent him packing pretty much said it all.
Usually I get really emotional and proud when someone hits the 100 lb mark, but I felt nothing when he did!

I'm 100% black team!!! :D

[tgr68]

I about cried when Julie got her car. DH and I have had to sacrifice quite a bit (granted not a car) to have me SAH, so I get some of where she's coming from. I am so happy for her!

I love that they have the before and after shots during weigh-ins this time. It shows really how far they have come with their weightloss! Plus, despite the jerk he has been in the last couple of weeks, I am so, so proud of Neil's milestone!

No real strong feeling either with Ryan going home. I didn't like though that Neil didn't even "fight" to keep him there.

[BumbleB]

I'm on the "not into Neil" bandwagon too. Sure, great, he lost 100 pounds - doesn't change the fact that he's a jerk.

I'm glad Ryan went home. He just didn't seem like he was trying hard enough...there are a few people I've felt that way about this season.

I loved that Julie won the car - good for her!

I'm not liking this 3 team, trio, duo thing much this season. It just seems really disconnected to me. I think it would be really hard being at the campus and constantly having to make those changes - just not sure what they are trying to accomplish with it.

[taraw]

...I'm not liking this 3 team, trio, duo thing much this season. It just seems really disconnected to me. I think it would be really hard being at the