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[LyLMyssChaos]

I agree, that some of the national GOP leaders are spending somewhat recklessly (I'm not sure what you mean by the religion thing?) and I think that comes down to politicians being politicians :rolleyes:.

I don't think that as a whole the entire party's core beliefs are changing. I think a lot of Republicans are frustrated, as you are, and will answer at the polls in the upcoming elections. That being said, the next GOP candidate would do well to head back to fiscal conservativism (is that a word?).

On a separate note, while I understand that this is not a private journal, and people are free to post when/how they want, I'm curious why so many of our CC liberals feel the need to post in this thread? :confused:

I'm hoping that this thread remains a place where we can share/support GOP ideals/candidates without being constantly attacked.

- Alison :)

Couldn't have said it better myself!

[johnny'sgirl]

I know y'all are a bit past this topic right now, but I just finished reading a wonderful Newsweek cover set of articles (this week's edition) on women in power, and a line from an article talking about San Francisco's women in power in the city government (police chief, fire chief, DA) and why they are so effective, and I thought it quite nicely dovetailed with the previous conversation.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9712126/

If there is one word that comes up again and again among San Francisco's women chiefs, it is "communication." "There are many ways to mediate and defuse situations," says Fong. She pushes her officers to patrol beats on foot to get to know neighbors. That willingness to try tactics that aren't "badge heavy" is typical of women who are now assuming command in other large cities, including Boston, Milwaukee and Detroit, says Margie Moore, director of the National Center for Women and Policing in Arlington, Va. "Eighty percent of modern policing is about communication, prevention and management," she says.

Size and scope of the job aside, I don't see it as being much different than modern nation-building and global politics.

[springprincess]

Just want to join this thread! I'm glad to have finally found a thread like this!

[Delta]

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/13004889.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp

Danforth criticizes Christian sway in GOP

DANIEL CONNOLLY
Associated Press

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. - Former Sen. John Danforth said Wednesday that the political influence of evangelical Christians is hurting the Republican Party and dividing the country.

Danforth, a Missouri Republican and an Episcopal priest, commented after meeting with students at the Bill Clinton School of Public Service, a graduate branch of the University of Arkansas on the grounds of the Clinton presidential library.

"I think that the Republican Party fairly recently has been taken over by the Christian conservatives, by the Christian right," he said in an interview. "I don't think that this is a permanent condition, but I think this has happened, and that it's divisive for the country."

He also said the evangelical Christian influence would be bad for the party in the long run.

Republican National Committee spokeswoman Tracy Schmitt declined to comment on Danforth's remarks.

Danforth, who recently served as ambassador to the United Nations, made similar criticism of the party in an opinion article published by the New York Times in June. In that article, he called for religious moderates to take part in public life.

Danforth, considered a conservative on social issues, was elected to the U.S. Senate in 1976 and served three terms.

[KaliLily]

Thanks for posting the article, Delta. Good to see someone "high up" finally comment on this issue. I was about to create my own party. ;)

[springprincess]

What does everyone think of the Miers withdrawal? I have to say, I'm not disappointed. I thought she was a pretty poor choice.

[KaliLily]

What does everyone think of the Miers withdrawal? I have to say, I'm not disappointed. I thought she was a pretty poor choice.

I didn't know she withdrew. Was a reason given?

[springprincess]

You can read the letter online (At Fox News, for sure), but she basically said it's causing the White House too much trouble, and it's too much for the country to go through. She and the White House say that it's because the Senate was forcing the release of internal White House documents of conversations between her and Bush, and she would have to testify about them. The Fox News article(s) is here: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,173665,00.html

[KaliLily]

Kilgore lost. Kaine won. :(

My only solace is in Bill Bolling (R) winning the Lt. Governor race, and it looks like the Rebuplican AG candidate will also win. I think people got fed-up with Kilgore's negative campaign in the last month, and that prompted them to not vote at all or change their vote. Kaine threw the first punch, but I think Kilgore's campaign took it too far. That's a shame because Kilgore had some great plans for Virginia.

This really sucks, particularly after I worked on the campaign. I spent 4 hours in a cold office making calls yesterday afternoon. At least I tried...

[gizzyntaz]

KaliLily I was thinking about you last night when the election results came in (we're in MD, so we get DC coverage). Sorry for the loss :(

[KaliLily]

KaliLily I was thinking about you last night when the election results came in (we're in MD, so we get DC coverage). Sorry for the loss :(

Thanks. I'm not as down as I was Tuesday night, so I'm getting over it. I just can't watch Kaine on TV, he creeps me out.

The good news of my Tuesday was I learned the school referendum here in Clarke County failed. It would have increased our real estate taxes over 80% in the next couple of years! :eek:

[lisainpink]

*bump*

[Cookie777]

AGGHHH!!! How did I not know this thread was here?! I guess I thought everyone was just on LJ so I didn't bother to look here. And I'm SO bad about signing in to LJ for whatever reason..

JP'Wife ~

JP'sBride? Right? I saw you posting in the nursery thread & thought that had to be you. Hows the baby? I'm ready to pop here pretty soon!

How is everyone else doing? I'm sorry I haven't said hi over on LJ for a long time. I see some of you here that also post there. I need to update my journal!

Hope everyone's doing great! :D

[jp'swife]

Hi Cookie!
How are you doing, honey! Man, you are due on Christmas! How wonderful is that! Everything will go wonderfully and soon you will be a momma love every minute of it! Ok, maybe not the 3 o'clock in the morning minutes, but you know what I mean. It all goes so quickly so just enjoy every moment.
Lots of luck to you!!

[Cookie777]

Thank you! I'm very excited. Pretty soon he will be here.. I almost can't believe it!

Hopefully soon I'll update my LJ & get some baby pictures on there too. :)

[jp'swife]

You better do that when he arrives!
any names picked out yet?

[LyLMyssChaos]

AGGHHH!!! How did I not know this thread was here?! I guess I thought everyone was just on LJ so I didn't bother to look here. And I'm SO bad about signing in to LJ for whatever reason..

How is everyone else doing? I'm sorry I haven't said hi over on LJ for a long time. I see some of you here that also post there. I need to update my journal!

Hope everyone's doing great! :D[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/I]

Well, that and there really aren't too many of us here! LOL Even those of us that started off in this thread have kinda trailed off! :)

[Cookie777]

Yes we have a name picked out but we haven't told anyone! Not even our parents. It's the one thing we've kept to ourselves. So since he's due on Christmas my FIL & SMIL are calling him "Jesus" or "Chuy" ..stuff like that.. haha. So pretty soon everyone will finally know.

Well since most everyone has left this thread...are you all still over at LJ? Or has that kind of died off too?

[LyLMyssChaos]

Oh no, LJ is still going strong. We have someone post something pretty much daily! :D

[lisainpink]

Wait- wait- wait- we have a group on LJ?!?!?! I wanna play! How do I find it? I'm lisainpink over there too!

[lisainpink]

Is it just me- or is CC a little more liberal as whole (than wc was)? I find that I feel like an outsider because of my views on quite a few social, economic, religious, heck- most issues- is much more conservative than the population here. Is that just me- or have others noticed it too?
Cookie- I hope you and baby are doing fine.

[LyLMyssChaos]

Lisa~I agree. I think that is why there aren't so many of "us" around here anymore. We find ourselves just constantly battling and/or defending ourselves/beliefs so that is why I believe quite a few of our ladies left. They really felt like they couldn't speak their mind and who wants to be on a message board where you feel like you are not free to participate for fear of everything you say getting you attacked? Oh and lisa, I was going to ask you, did you use the same user name over at WC? I'm still trying to figure out what people's previous names were if they changed them. LOL

I hope that cookie and that baby are spending lots of happy time together and enjoying every minute of it because it certainly does fly by too quickly! :D

[Cookie777]

I'm sorry I've taken so long to come by & post the baby news.

Here's the info:

Brandon Michael JR was born on
December 30th, 2005 @
3:17 PM measuring
21.5 inches & weighing
8 lbs 1 oz


Here are some pictures..

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/Cookie777/BMKJR2.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/Cookie777/BMKJR1.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/Cookie777/BabyFeet.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/Cookie777/BrandonSwing4.jpg

Is it just me- or is CC a little more liberal as whole (than wc was)?...

Up until a couple weeks ago when I found this thread & the SAHM thread...I had only basically read my December 2005 mom's thread & the belly shots thread. haha.. So I really can't say since we obviously don't talk about much except pregnancy & babies in those threads. For some reason I just haven't looked around much at all on this site...but it is definitely something I notice on a LOT of message boards.. I'll have to get back to you on that one. ;)

I hope everyone's doing great! Talk to you soon...:cool:

[JillyBean]

Oh my gosh, he's so adorable! Congrats Cookie :D

[gnatters]

I have to agree, he is adorable Cookie. Congrats!

Also, could someone PM me the information about the discussion in LJ? I am interested in perhaps sticking in my two cents there from time to time.

~Natalie

[jp'swife]

Congratulations, Cookie!!
He is sooo beautiful!!
Enjoy every minute of this time!

[Cookie777]

Thank you ladies! :D

I'm enjoying him very much. He's so cute & a total cuddlebug. :) I am getting a little bit of cabin fever though since I'm pretty much stuck in the house with him.. but I have NO plans to take him anywhere..except for a walk or the pediatricians office..for a loooong time. I'm so paranoid about the Flu & RSV! :(

[steph111397]

WOOHOO! Sound glad I found this thread! Don't know why I haven't seen it before? :rolleyes:

Subscribing....

Is it just me- or is CC a little more liberal as whole (than wc was)? I find that I feel like an outsider because of my views on quite a few social, economic, religious, heck- most issues- is much more conservative than the population here. Is that just me- or have others noticed it too?


Yes - absolutely! I have "lurked" in other threads, but refrained from posting from fear of being skewered!! lol. I get VERY irritated when liberals attack someone else with a more conservative view! I encounter this ALL THE TIME at school! I simply refuse to discuss anything with "substance" with anyone at school because of this! argh! :mad:

Cookie - What a gorgeous little man! :D Congratulations! Enjoy this time with him.

[Cookie777]

Welcome Steph! :D

... I get VERY irritated when liberals attack someone else with a more conservative view!...

Yep! Me too.. What's funny is you don't really see many conservatives attacking those with more liberal views. Atleast I don't. So I always wonder why there's such hostility & rudeness quite often from the more liberal people. I guess some would say because they feel like conservatives push their views onto them..which I don't agree with most of the time. But how do they not see that their views are encroaching on us? :rolleyes: They do..but just like to pretend that they don't. Hypocritical bandwagon..

Cookie - What a gorgeous little man! :D Congratulations! Enjoy this time with him.

Thank you! :)

[jp'swife]

Welcome Steph!!
Nice to have you here!

[JillyBean]

Jill, love your new avatar! Alex is so cute! :D

[lisainpink]

Cookie What a beee-a-utiful baby!!

LylMyssChaos I was lisainpink on the wc too. I'm always trying to figure out who was who- and who is new!

Often, I'll see a thread that I would love to comment on- but I refrain. I never know when my little $.02 will start a whole big thing! Like the Hillary thread today about the plantation comment. I would love to go in there and say how ignorant the comment is- not just based on race or MLK observance- but also based on how little she must know of how plantations were run. I love her selective recolection of U.S. history. The woman makes my blood boil. But I wouldn't dare- I might be tarred and feathered! Same with the Air America thread. I would love to chat about Randy Rhodes' (her name may be misspelled) call for the assassination of our president. If Rush or Sean had made a similar comment during the Clinton years, they would have been arrested and essentially brought forth for hanging. But again, I don't dare comment.
I mostly stick to the journals and hobbies sections. Every time I got to chit chat- someone's panties end up all in a wad. :p

[jp'swife]

Awwwh, thank you Jilly!

Lisa-I get the same way. Some things just aren't worth commenting about. I have more fun in other threads regarding other things anymore.
Hilary is a moron and I can't really comment on Air America because I have never listened to it. I wouldn't even know where to tune in on the radio. Is that even still on the air? LOL!

[lisainpink]

Teehehehee- I live in Alabama. Air America just wouldn't make it here (they have never been on here.) Unless they are on satellite (are they?) they are a non-issue in these parts.
I watched the special on HBO about it and laughed. They straight up lied to their own employees and the people doing the documentary- and got caught. Sad.

[Cookie777]

Did someone say Hillary?

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/Cookie777/HClinton.jpg

:D Sorry...couldn't resist.

Cookie What a beee-a-utiful baby!!

Thank you! :)

[lisainpink]

Bwhwwwhahhahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:p :D

[gnatters]

Ok. I admit, I busted up laughing at that pic of Hillary. Thanks Cookie!!!

~Natalie

[jrdhbunny]

Jill and Cookie- your babies are just adorable!!! I'm so excited to see pictures!

[jp'swife]

Heather! I've missed you!!
Thank you for the compliment! I hope you are doing well!

[jrdhbunny]

I've missed you too! I always go into the July 2005 thread hoping to see pictures of your sweet DS. :)

If you have time, come visit my LJ...

[jp'swife]

Thank you!
I definately will be stopping by! I have to check out what's been going on with you. I feel like I've totally lost touch!

[Cookie777]

Ok. I admit, I busted up laughing at that pic of Hillary. Thanks Cookie!!!

Haha! No problem. ;) Hope I didn't offend anyone. :o

Jill and Cookie- your babies are just adorable!!! I'm so excited to see pictures!

Thank you! :D Yours is very adorable also!

[jrdhbunny]

Thank you!

[jp'swife]

Just wanted to bump this up....add some news...

Reid Aided Abramoff Clients, Records Show
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/02/09/D8FLR3380.html

[jp'swife]

From realpolitics.com

February 15, 2006
The Shooting Party
By Tony Blankley

In the absence of any pressing news these days -- other than Iran's nuclear weapons development crisis, the election of Hamas terrorists in Palestine, ongoing worldwide Muslim riots and killing in reaction to a cartoon, Al Gore's near sedition while speaking in Saudi Arabia, the turning over of our East Coast ports to be managed by a United Arab Emirates firm, the criminal leaking of vital NSA secrets to the New York Times, Mexican military incursions across our southern border, the Iraqi crisis, Congress's refusal to deal with the developing financial collapse of Social Security and Medicare, inter alia -- the White House press corp has exploded in righteous fury over the question of the vice president's little shooting party last weekend.

As I understand the profound concern of the ever-alert White House reporters, they smell a constitutional crisis because the shooting party failed to alert the media of the accidental shooting down in Corpus Christi, Texas. Well, actually, they did alert the Corpus Christi media -- but that didn't count. Unless the exalted ones have been formally informed by an official government press secretary, no public communication has technically occurred.

I checked the bylaws of the White House press corp, and they are right. It seems that the bylaws refer to Article XXIII of the U.S. Constitution, which expressly designates that White House reporters with a minimum annual income of $375,000 (plus minimum stock options equal to not less than two-thirds their yearly salary, plus use of driver and long sedan during business hours, of which hours must include post-deadline dinner engagements of a semi-social nature) are the exclusive recipients of all government information.

If information isn't hand-delivered in gilt-edged paper to them while they are reclined on their chaise lounges, it hasn't been released to the public. And if they don't report a fact, it hasn't happened. This provision is vital to a vigorous and independent free press.

Of course, this provision technically makes the White House press corp not reporters, but receivers -- sort of glorified shipping clerks, but with the prerogative to re-write and re-package the material before they deliver it to the public.

When an out-of-town newspaper got the scoop, the dignity of the White House press corp had been impeached, so they threw a public temper tantrum. As that has worked for many of them since their early childhood, they obviously expect it to work while on the job -- to use the term loosely.

To add to their indignity, the reporter for the Washington Post went on MSNBC dressed up in a hunting costume to ridicule the vice president. (It is said that the enfeebled and debased French dauphin, Charles VII, dressed in women's clothing to hide from Joan of Arc, who was trying to save France.)

I suppose most of us, as we rise in life, develop a sense of entitlement and pompous dignity. Doubtless we all think we are more important than we are. As Charles De Gaulle once sardonically observed, "The graveyards are full of indispensable men."

But the Washington press corp, and particularly the White House press corp, has developed, as an institution, a grossly dilated view of itself. Most of us can tolerate arrogance if it is accompanied by extraordinary capacity and virtuosity. The brilliant scientist, the war-winning general, the great artists are entitled to their pride.

But the hallmark of the Washington Press corp these days is mediocrity, groupthink, a lack of curiosity and rampant careerism. These attributes were all on show in the shooting party incident. But this is just a trivial incident -- except for the poor, shot gentleman who suffered a heart attack, may he recover fully and quickly.

We live at a moment of revolutionary change in the international order. The rise and violence of radical, possibly caliphate-forming Islam and the huge, culture-changing, unexamined consequences of rampant globalization make the present one of the least predictable moments to be alive.

Both government officials and citizens are in desperate need of a national press corp that is alive to the change and digging to find factual hints of the near future. We need the kind of future-oriented intellectual vigor, curiosity and genuine iconoclasm that typified American reporters in the first half of the last century.

Instead, as the shooting party incident exemplified, we have in the White House at the most elite level of American journalism, self-absorbed, self-important men and women who stand on their prerogatives even over marginal and inconsequential matters.

Should they ever have a truly daring, creative, productive, hard-researched idea about what is going on in this dangerous world, they should alert the media.

[i]Copyright 2006 Creators Syndicate

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[dionysia]

*delurk*

Ok, those guys just look plain goofy and stupid.

Di

[jp'swife]

*delurk*

Ok, those guys just look plain goofy and stupid.

Di

Tell me about it!
I don't care what side of politics you are on, but what are you thinking wearing that???

[ysolde]

OK, jill, first you had me laughing at the picture of Hillary. Now I am laughing at the dorks in the orange hats. I laughed so hard, I am having coughing fits!

[jp'swife]

OK, jill, first you had me laughing at the picture of Hillary. Now I am laughing at the dorks in the orange hats. I laughed so hard, I am having coughing fits!

Good! I mean, not good to have coughing fits...just good to make people laugh. Come on now, just attempt to look like you are going to give a good argument. You know what they say about first impressions!

[dionysia]

Tell me about it!
I don't care what side of politics you are on, but what are you thinking wearing that???Talk about poor taste.

Harry Whittington is still in intensive care, for $DEITY's sake! :mad:

Di

[LyLMyssChaos]

We are so excited!! They just announced that with the "success of the SuperBowl" Detroit is now in the running for the 2008 RNC!!! How cool would that be if we could get it?

[ysolde]

We are so excited!! They just announced that with the "success of the SuperBowl" Detroit is now in the running for the 2008 RNC!!! How cool would that be if we could get it?

It's a PITA to have a national political convention in town, actually. Streets get closed, there is heavy duty security for days prior and during, public transportation gets thrown through a loop (literally). Uggh. I couldn't wait for the RNC, and the protesters, to get the heck out of here.

[LyLMyssChaos]

It's a PITA to have a national political convention in town, actually. Streets get closed, there is heavy duty security for days prior and during, public transportation gets thrown through a loop (literally). Uggh. I couldn't wait for the RNC, and the protesters, to get the heck out of here.

LOL Luckily, I live about 45 minutes from where it would be. Close enough to attend, but far enough away that it really won't affect me. We had the Presidentail Train tour thing a few years ago make a stop in the town I lived in....now THAT was a pain in my tooshie. :p

[Esq.]

You ladies haven't been in here for a while. I just popped over to find out the skinny on how Ann Coulter's recent statements are being viewed by the Right. Any opinions?

[wendalah]

I don't take Ann Coulter seriously. She is the Marilyn Manson of punditry.

[Esq.]

Do you think she meant what she said, or that she is just being inflammatory? I have to say, if she is being inflammatory, she is running the risk of alienating her base. I am not sure what her motivation is if she does not actually believe what she has said.

[wendalah]

She says a lot of remarkably inflammatory things. I'm not sure how this latest installment somehow trumps some of her other over-the-top pronouncements.

[Esq.]

I agree that she has said some crazy things in the past (the women shouldn't be allowed to vote thing comes to mind) but I try to not pay attention to her. I guess, because of that, this statement seems way out of line to me, and I am wondering if it has actually alienated anyone who has liked what she has to say up until this point.

[looch]

I just saw the Ann Coulter news. I am not sure what I even think of her anymore...you know what? I don't think of her!

Seriously though, I think she's being inflammatory. It all comes down to book sales. For that, it seems to me she says anything.

[lisainpink]

I'm with Looch. She isn't a focal point for me- for my policies or opinions.

Oh- and most of us have moved to LJ. ;)

[LyLMyssChaos]

Although I admire Ann for her guts and blase disregard for the feelings of others, I think she crosses the line sometimes. Her opinions don't affect my political beliefs at all. These most recent comments were totally uncalled for. They were just outright rude and inappropriate. Yes, she may be entitled to her opinion, but there are just some opinions that should not be shared. This was just a stunt to get her in the papers, I'm pretty sure.

[Esq.]

Tiffany, you admire her for her disregard of others' feelings? That is a big part of why many dislike her, IMO.

And I agree that she is trying to sell books, but it makes me less likely to want to read her book. Just hearing the excerpts, I cannot believe that there would be anything worth reading.

[LyLMyssChaos]

What I meant by that is that she isn't afraid to say what she thinks regardless if it is "PC" or will offend someone. I admire that she is so self-assured that she isn't concerned about the negative backlash that she will encounter, she even seems to relish it. I see her as a great example of what a strong woman should be like (even if I do disagree with some of what she says.)

[Esq.]

I can understand where you are coming from, but to me it comes off as conceit. IMO, what she has said about the the 9/11 widows is a great example. She is so sure of her opinion, and thinks that everyone should stop and listen to it. But, what she has to say is very off point, and really does nothing but cause conflict. It has no purpose or real point.

[artist]

...I see her as a great example of what a strong woman should be like...

Oh boy! I sure hope there are other women as our role models for "strong women"!

(Sorry to interject in your thread, but there is not an "Ann Coulter" thread right now, but instead 2 discussions about her in 2 different threads.)

Aside from thinking she is just an awful person, which I already thought anyway, her latest comments made me think a lot about conservatives' emphasis on the importance of what they call "Patriotism" and I honestly thought what she said was incredibly "un-Patriotic".

Glad to hear though that many of you don't seem to subscribe to her views, take her too seriously, or even think about her much.

[PinkMartini]

Any of you right wing(ers) still around????

Just wondering what everyone thinks of the R presidential runners right now? Mitt Romney; Rudy Giuliani and John McCain... Who else do you think will pop up to run? I've heard rumors floating around that Newt Gingrich might run...

[LyLMyssChaos]

Any of you right wing(ers) still around????

Just wondering what everyone thinks of the R presidential runners right now? Mitt Romney; Rudy Giuliani and John McCain... Who else do you think will pop up to run? I've heard rumors floating around that Newt Gingrich might run...

I'm still here occasionally. I am not really happy with our choices. I don't like any of them. I'd much prefer Mike Huckabee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Huckabee) or Sam Brownback (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Brownback). I just can't support John McCain because I feel that he is a complete RINO. I cannot stomach the idea of Romney because he is so wishy-washy it's not even funny. He will tell whomever he is talking to whatever THEY want to hear, even if it contradicts a previous position. And as far as Giuliani goes, I don't feel that he is experienced enough to run the country. Being a mayor is incredibly different from being the President. I also do not support his views on social issues.

[heather1029]

Hi! I'm a right winger, but a crappy debater so I tend to stay out of the crazy arguments around these parts (and by these parts, I mean Constant Chatter as a whole). I just took a quiz to tell me which candidate best aligns with my views.

Your results for "Presidential Candidate Selector -- 2008 Front Runners"
URL: http://SelectSmart.com/plus/select.php?url=08frontrunners
Send your comments to Curt Anderson, the creator of this selector.

Percent Rank Item
(100%) 1: Rep. Duncan Hunter (R) Information
(92%) 2: Sen. Sam Brownback (R) Information
(91%) 3: Rep. Tom Tancredo (R) Information
(83%) 4: Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) Information
(75%) 5: Ex-Rep. Newt Gingrich (R) Information
(74%) 6: Gov. Mitt Romney (R) Information
(71%) 7: Gov. George Pataki (R) Information
(70%) 8: Sen. John McCain (R) Information
(69%) 9: Ex-Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) Information
(64%) 10: Sen. Chuck Hagel (R) Information
(58%) 11: Rep. Ron Paul (R) Information
(57%) 12: Sec. Condoleezza Rice (R) Information
(42%) 13: Gov. Tom Vilsack (D) Information
(37%) 14: Retired Gen. Wesley Clark (D) Information
(37%) 15: Sen. Christopher Dodd (D) Information
(35%) 16: Sen. Hillary Clinton (D) Information
(30%) 17: Gov. Bill Richardson (D) Information
(30%) 18: Sen. Joseph Biden (D) Information
(29%) 19: Ex-Sen. John Edwards (D) Information
(19%) 20: Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D) Information
(19%) 21: Sen. Barack Obama (D) Information
(14%) 22: Ex-VP Al Gore (D) Information
* * *

[PinkMartini]

Cool quiz :) Here are my result:

(100%) 1: Rep. Duncan Hunter (R) Information
(93%) 2: Sen. Sam Brownback (R) Information
(91%) 3: Rep. Tom Tancredo (R) Information
(82%) 4: Ex-Rep. Newt Gingrich (R) Information
(77%) 5: Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) Information
(74%) 6: Sen. Chuck Hagel (R) Information
(70%) 7: Sen. John McCain (R) Information
(68%) 8: Gov. George Pataki (R) Information
(68%) 9: Gov. Mitt Romney (R) Information
(67%) 10: Ex-Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) Information
(66%) 11: Sec. Condoleezza Rice (R) Information
(55%) 12: Rep. Ron Paul (R) Information
(50%) 13: Sen. Hillary Clinton (D) Information
(50%) 14: Sen. Joseph Biden (D) Information
(44%) 15: Gov. Bill Richardson (D) Information
(42%) 16: Sen. Christopher Dodd (D) Information
(37%) 17: Gov. Tom Vilsack (D) Information
(34%) 18: Ex-Sen. John Edwards (D) Information
(28%) 19: Retired Gen. Wesley Clark (D) Information
(26%) 20: Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D) Information
(26%) 21: Sen. Barack Obama (D) Information
(26%) 22: Ex-VP Al Gore (D) Information

[msnicolea]

Duncan Hunter is anti-minority, anti-gay, anti-immigrant, and anti-environment--you guys must be so proud!

[heather1029]

Eh, it doesn't mean we'll actually vote for him. I don't like that he isn't into the environment. I'm not quite sure what anti-minority means in terms of voting. Which issues have anything to do with minorities?

[msnicolea]

Many issues have to do with minorities: racial and sexual. He received a 7% approval rating from the ACLU, votes against affirmative action, against gay adoption, against grants for traditionally black/hispanic colleges and universities. His record is also anti-poor, as he voted against Section 8 housing vouchers and thinks people receiving GTANF should get incentives to marry. I could go on, but I'll wait until we get closer to election time.

[Kate&Joey]

Duncan Hunter is anti-minority, anti-gay, anti-immigrant, and anti-environment--you guys must be so proud!

This is why I don't reply to political threads. Real nice.

[PinkMartini]

Some people just can't resist the oppurtunity to snark :rolleyes: You know the one thing that CCer's just can't handle maturely, is politics...

I am happy that I took that test - a few of the people on there I hadn't even heard of. So now I can research the runners properly. And if Hunter is as bad as you say he is - I doubt he'll make it far anyway...

[thelittlebabu]

Duncan Hunter is anti-minority, anti-gay, anti-immigrant, and anti-environment--you guys must be so proud!
I think I'll go take a sarcastic dump in the Liberals II forum. Nah, that wouldn't be nice. Everyone over there hasn't done that here...well, almost everyone.

[thelittlebabu]

I did the poll. It's flawed beyond belief, but here were my results anyway:

(100%) 1: Sen. Sam Brownback (R) Information
(81%) 2: Rep. Tom Tancredo (R) Information
(81%) 3: Sen. John McCain (R) Information
(80%) 4: Sec. Condoleezza Rice (R) Information
(77%) 5: Rep. Duncan Hunter (R) Information
(76%) 6: Ex-Rep. Newt Gingrich (R) Information
(73%) 7: Gov. George Pataki (R) Information
(72%) 8: Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) Information
(72%) 9: Sen. Chuck Hagel (R) Information
(68%) 10: Rep. Ron Paul (R) Information
(66%) 11: Ex-Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) Information
(65%) 12: Gov. Mitt Romney (R) Information
(42%) 13: Sen. Joseph Biden (D) Information
(37%) 14: Sen. Hillary Clinton (D) Information
(34%) 15: Gov. Bill Richardson (D) Information
(28%) 16: Ex-Sen. John Edwards (D) Information
(28%) 17: Ex-VP Al Gore (D) Information
(28%) 18: Gov. Tom Vilsack (D) Information
(26%) 19: Retired Gen. Wesley Clark (D) Information
(26%) 20: Sen. Christopher Dodd (D) Information
(14%) 21: Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D) Information
(10%) 22: Sen. Barack Obama (D) Information

It's flawed because most of the questions are black or white with not much gray. It's flawed because after being told Brownback is my candidate, I looked at his answers in the Information page and saw way too many differences than what I answered.

I'm sure if the poll was flawed for me, it's flawed for the candidates, too. Anyway, it *was* interesting to do.

[heather1029]

It's flawed because most of the questions are black or white with not much gray. It's flawed because after being told Brownback is my candidate, I looked at his answers in the Information page and saw way too many differences than what I answered.

I'm sure if the poll was flawed for me, it's flawed for the candidates, too. Anyway, it *was* interesting to do.

Yep, I agree. I was thinking the entire time, "Boy, this is really spun for the dems."

But it was still fun (:
It got me thinking about the candidates.

[LyLMyssChaos]

I'm not so sure how accurate that test was, some of the answers seemed very conflicting such as this question:
"What would be your ideal candidate's position on TAXES & THE DEFICIT?"

A) Would raise taxes and/or reduce spending if necessary to reduce the deficit and balance the budget in keeping with the philosophy of the Concord Coalition.
B) Would not be concerned with the deficit. Would not raise taxes nor reduce spending to balance budget
C) Neither

Personally, I don't think that raising taxes is the best way to reduce the deficit, but I definitely believe that reducing spending is a way to do it. But I can't choose that one because I don't agree with the first part. I definitely am concerned about the deficit, so that knocks answer B out of the running, and neither really is a cop-out answer.

But none the less, here are my results:
(100%) 1: Sen. Sam Brownback (R)
(94%) 2: Rep. Duncan Hunter (R)
(90%) 3: Rep. Tom Tancredo (R)
(82%) 4: Ex-Rep. Newt Gingrich (R)
(76%) 5: Sen. John McCain (R)
(76%) 6: Gov. Mike Huckabee (R)
(73%) 7: Sen. Chuck Hagel (R)
(70%) 8: Gov. George Pataki (R)
(66%) 9: Sec. Condoleezza Rice (R)
(64%) 10: Rep. Ron Paul (R)
(61%) 11: Ex-Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R)
(61%) 12: Gov. Mitt Romney (R)
(44%) 13: Sen. Joseph Biden (D)
(32%) 14: Gov. Bill Richardson (D)
(28%) 15: Sen. Hillary Clinton (D)
(26%) 16: Gov. Tom Vilsack (D)
(26%) 17: Ex-Sen. John Edwards (D)
(21%) 18: Ex-VP Al Gore (D)
(16%) 19: Sen. Christopher Dodd (D)
(16%) 20: Retired Gen. Wesley Clark (D)
(11%) 21: Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D)
(3%) 22: Sen. Barack Obama (D)

One thing's for sure, this test PROVED that I'm not a Democrat! LOL

[MLA]

Yep, I agree. I was thinking the entire time, "Boy, this is really spun for the dems."

But it was still fun (:
It got me thinking about the candidates.

Liberal here (don't stone me!)

I have to agree that the quiz seemed skewed towards the liberal side. And I think it was super-flawed -- I haven't come across a single democrat who didn't score 100% Obama. And that seemed really strange to me. Looking through your guys' results, too, it looks like almost everyone ended up with Hunter as their guy, but I doubt that's really accurate.

[thelittlebabu]

I'm not so sure how accurate that test was, some of the answers seemed very conflicting such as this question:
"What would be your ideal candidate's position on TAXES & THE DEFICIT?"

A) Would raise taxes and/or reduce spending if necessary to reduce the deficit and balance the budget in keeping with the philosophy of the Concord Coalition.
B) Would not be concerned with the deficit. Would not raise taxes nor reduce spending to balance budget
C) Neither

Personally, I don't think that raising taxes is the best way to reduce the deficit, but I definitely believe that reducing spending is a way to do it. But I can't choose that one because I don't agree with the first part. I definitely am concerned about the deficit, so that knocks answer B out of the running, and neither really is a cop-out answer.
This is exactly what my thinking was on this question, except I didn't consider "neither" as a cop-out. I considered "neither" a great choice specifically because the other options stunk. I ended up using "neither" quite frequently.

[thelittlebabu]

Liberal here (don't stone me!)
You're already stoned, you liberal hippie! Shoo, shoo and take the bong with you...

...wait, leave some for me...please!?

[MLA]

You're already stoned, you liberal hippie! Shoo, shoo and take the bong with you...

...wait, leave some for me...please!?

LOL! It's all mine! I'm not much into the touchy-feely sharing my stash liberalism. ;)

And I'm out.

[LyLMyssChaos]

Just bumping this up in case there are any new right-wingers that have joined CC.

[LyLMyssChaos]

Have any of you seen this site yet: RIGHT Net News (http://www.rightnetnews.com/)

[ysolde]

I tend to come up moderate or libertarian (some people might call me a RINO, hehe). I prefer villanelle's term, "Paleocon". Anyway, here are my (surprising to me, anyway) results:


1. Theoretical Ideal Candidate (100%)
2. Christopher Dodd (73%) Click here for info
3. Dennis Kucinich (71%) Click here for info
4. Hillary Clinton (71%) Click here for info
5. Joseph Biden (71%) Click here for info
6. Bill Richardson (70%) Click here for info
7. Barack Obama (70%) Click here for info
8. Al Gore (66%) Click here for info
9. Kent McManigal (62%) Click here for info
10. John Edwards (60%) Click here for info
11. Wesley Clark (60%) Click here for info
12. Ron Paul (54%) Click here for info
13. Rudolph Giuliani (47%) Click here for info
14. John McCain (41%) Click here for info
15. Mitt Romney (41%) Click here for info
16. Chuck Hagel (40%) Click here for info
17. Mike Huckabee (34%) Click here for info
18. Tommy Thompson (33%) Click here for info
19. Fred Thompson (33%) Click here for info
20. Sam Brownback (32%) Click here for info
21. Tom Tancredo (31%) Click here for info
22. Elaine Brown (29%) Click here for info
23. Newt Gingrich (29%) Click here for info
24. Mike Gravel (21%) Click here for info
25. Duncan Hunter (19%) Click here for info
26. Jim Gilmore (17%) Click here for info


I had not heard of many of these people, and had never given a second thought to Chris Dodd. Off to do some research . . .

[philnikki]

LMC - I had no idea this thread even existed! I generally left my rantings to my CFG on LJ. I had basically given up on *ever* having a civilized debate on here, because I was just outnumbered (you woulda thought Karl Rove was my daddy considering the reception I got from most liberals on this site) No matter what the topic, the knee-jerk liberals were all in there waiting to jump all over the conservative, and it just got predictable and annoying. So I am so happy that this thread exists!! Can I join, pretty please?? :)

[KiKi'sMommy]

I didn't know this thread existed either! I was beginning to feel really outnumbered and it is nice to have a place to enjoy some similar thinking. I certainly don't have a problem with others beliefs or ideas, but I am glad this thread is here!

[HGMorgann]

i'm pretty right too. though, a bit crunchy, so have some non-right views. But a crunchy con. :-)

[LyLMyssChaos]

This thread has been here for awhile, but I know that a lot of the "original posters" have since stopped coming here. I am here hit and miss, but I'm glad that there are still some folks around that are interested in using it.

[heather1029]

HGMorgan: I'm very "crunchy" myself! I eat almost 100% organic, I recycle/reuse/conserve, drive a high-MPG car, try to make only the tiniest carbon footprint, etc. Being Republican definitely doesn't mean you're not interested in the environment and in taking care of the resources God has given you. I think sometimes being a Republican just means you allow the government to focus their spending on other even more pressing current issues at the moment (ex. civil wars in other countries). Just because our government is spending elsewhere doesn't mean that we as individuals shouldn't be continuing to live eco-consciously.

Anyway, welcome!

[Delta]

It's conservative to conserve. ;)

[Delta]

What do we think of Fred Thompson?

Well, I know what I think. I'm not the least bit enthused about ANY of the current candidates so I am hoping against hope that he gets in. This country needs an adult in charge and frankly, he's pretty much the only adult I see on either side of the aisle.

[gnatters]

I'm still here and I am also curious about who is planning on running in the '08 election. Honestly I really haven't heard much from the conservative camp, unlike hearing all about Obama and Hillary.

I'm glad to see this thread get some life back into it.

~Natalie

[LyLMyssChaos]

What do we think of Fred Thompson?

Well, I know what I think. I'm not the least bit enthused about ANY of the current candidates so I am hoping against hope that he gets in. This country needs an adult in charge and frankly, he's pretty much the only adult I see on either side of the aisle.

I'm definitely going to have to look into Fred Thompson. I really don't know much about him.

[philnikki]

The most recent quiz that I took ranked me as voting most in line with Duncan Hunter and/or John McCain. I also haven't really gotten too excited about any of the candidates yet. I was on the McCain election campaign (just as a campus volunteer) in 2000, and I think that is who I will be voting for unless someone new pops up in the meantime. It blows my mind how soon this election season started, and I wonder if maybe there are some really great candidates just biding their time.

As far as conservation goes, I also agree the moment someone finds out you are a republican they think you'd burn down a rainforest for fun. I, for one, do believe in conservation, but I don't think that I need to go out buying carbon offsets (which I think is a scam and don't "solve" anything). I also don't believe that global warming is going to kill off everything on the planet. The media would certainly like you to believe that, aside from their agenda, because it makes for great news stories. Global catastrophe! But the science isn't all there, and even if we *know* that the earth is warming, its at such a small fraction, that its impact is certainly not as predictable as the libs want you to believe. IMO (and my husband calls me a conspiracy theoriest) global warming is going to be the way that the libs (via the UN) are going to enact the first global tax on countries based on their carbon output. Mark my words! :)

Glad to meet everyone!!!!

[ysolde]

What do we think of Fred Thompson?

Well, I know what I think. I'm not the least bit enthused about ANY of the current candidates so I am hoping against hope that he gets in. This country needs an adult in charge and frankly, he's pretty much the only adult I see on either side of the aisle.


Don't know much about Fred Thompson (except that I loved his character on Law and Order :o ). I will have to read up on his positions a lot more.

I was a huge fan of McCain's, but lately, I can't stand his pandering to the Religious Right (sorry, I am a paleo-con).

I have no problem with voluntary carbon offsets, but I do hope they stay voluntary. I believe the only way we are going to imporve current environmental problems is by individuals' making changes in their everyday lives. Heck, thanks to information provided by our own Ms. Delta right here on CC, I have cut red meat out of my diet entirely, and am going pescatarian by the end of the year. Fortunately, dark chocolate in moderate doses can be a part of a healthy pescatarian diet, right, D? :D

[philnikki]

ysolde - That is actually one of the issues I have always had with McCain is that he seems to flip flop on issues, but I think that most of the candidates in both parties seem to be trying to pander to various "groups" (religious right, feminists, gay/lesbian groups, racial/ethnic minorities, etc.). My favorite so far was when Hillary Clinton spoke to the victims in Selma, AL in a southern accent :) Unfortunately, that's what it takes to get elected it seems :(

And I have no problem with people giving up their money for carbon offsets if they choose to do it. That's capitalism at work!!

[ysolde]

ysolde - That is actually one of the issues I have always had with McCain is that he seems to flip flop on issues, but I think that most of the candidates in both parties seem to be trying to pander to various "groups" (religious right, feminists, gay/lesbian groups, racial/ethnic minorities, etc.). My favorite so far was when Hillary Clinton spoke to the victims in Selma, AL in a southern accent :) Unfortunately, that's what it takes to get elected it seems :(

And I have no problem with people giving up their money for carbon offsets if they choose to do it. That's capitalism at work!!


Hillary, from Chicago, Illinois, spoke with a Southern accent? Give me just a small break! Sheesh! Look, I give credit where it is due -- she has been a decent to good Senator (and I agree with her on many, though certainly not all, issues). Obama is an inspiring speaker. Neither one of them have enough of a record, I think, for me to vote on for President. The problem is, people with long voting records can't get through primaries in this day and age -- too much to "defend" -- and that's a shame.

[philnikki]

Well, I looked up the audio for ya, and apparently Barrack did too (although I can't listen to this here at the office, so I am taking their word for it on this one).

http://hotair.com/archives/2007/03/05/audio-hillary-obama-develop-southern-accents-for-selma/

And I agree with you 100%. Your damned if you do and damned if you don't it seems.

[jrdhbunny]

Glad to see this thread get some new life!

From what I've read/seen/heard, I like Fred Thompson's conservative views. My only concern is that he's too blunt and no-nonsense (which is definitely what I prefer in a leader, but may not be what the voters want to see). Plus I don't know if he has the leadership experience to be president.

As someone who lived in NYC for the last 10 years, I am very partial to Giuliani; he helped make the city a really great place to live with his tough stance on crime. NYC also had quite a budget surplus by the time he left office. And he's come a long way as far as his public image is concerned- I remember the days when he would come off as petulant and cranky in every press conference. But I'm far from decided.

[ysolde]

I think Giuliani was a great mayor (with the exception of that Brooklyn Museum Schaachi coolection debacle). He is a great leader, and his fiscal policies were terrific. He was no-nonsense, had a great sense of what it took to bring people and business back into town, and really made the city a great place to live. I would vote for him in a heartbeat.

However, I doubt he will ever get the nomination. He is pro-choice, pro-gay rights, and just your basic North East, "country club" Republican. The GOP has gone in a different direction. It no longer cares about fiscal conservatism (at least it is not acting like it does, much to my chagrin); it cares about "social" issues which Giuliani just can't get behind, at least not wholeheartedly.

[Kate&Joey]

I think Giuliani was a great mayor (with the exception of that Brooklyn Museum Schaachi coolection debacle). He is a great leader, and his fiscal policies were terrific. He was no-nonsense, had a great sense of what it took to bring people and business back into town, and really made the city a great place to live. I would vote for him in a heartbeat.

However, I doubt he will ever get the nomination. He is pro-choice, pro-gay rights, and just your basic North East, "country club" Republican. The GOP has gone in a different direction. It no longer cares about fiscal conservatism (at least it is not acting like it does, much to my chagrin); it cares about "social" issues which Giuliani just can't get behind, at least not wholeheartedly.

I totally agree, ysolde. I would vote for Giuliani, too. I think it's a shame that social issues have become more important than actual governing issues within the political scene.

[Delta]

Heck, thanks to information provided by our own Ms. Delta right here on CC, I have cut red meat out of my diet entirely, and am going pescatarian by the end of the year. Fortunately, dark chocolate in moderate doses can be a part of a healthy pescatarian diet, right, D?That's awesome! And I just heard on the radio this morning about a study that showed dark chocolate can lower blood pressure just as well as the medicines prescribed for that function. So, eat up!

Giuliani...I dunno. I don't see how he's been leading in the polls by so much and for so long. I don't get it. I like him, I just don't think I want him as my president.

[ysolde]

OT -- Eating my spicy tuna roll, Diet Coke, and one piece of dark chocolate before I head out for volunteer work!

[Kate&Joey]

What a coincidence: I am also eating a bit of dark chocolate before I go to get DS from daycare. Shhh! It was from his Easter basket, but since he's only 15 months, I don't think he'll notice. ;)

[philnikki]

ysolde - You know, I wouldn't mind it too terribly if Rudy got the nomintation either, and I know that there are others in the GOP (well at least to my knowledge in my daily doses of Hannity, Beck, and Limbaugh) who realize that his pro-gay rights and abortion stances in reality don't mean much, because it would not be in his power to *change* much, and he has gone on record saying he is a strict constructionist and would appoint more conservative justices to the Supreme Court (where those positions would matter). Whether he could pass the sniff test with the GOP in its entirety though is up in the air. I think I could definately vote for him though.

As an side, I think tts important to note here that I am not anti-gay rights (quite the opposite), although I am pro-life.

As far as fiscal conservatism goes, that is something that, in my opinion, was a big reason why the republican majority in Congress no longer exists. I *hate* that they have been so pork-barrel and reckless at times, and I fear the current Democrats are going to be worse (with all of their spending to get votes on the end-to-the-war legislation).

[JillyBean]

So glad to see this thread being revived!

I'm not set on any particular candidate just yet, either. I'm just now hearing about some that I need to go read up on. I voted for McCain during the 2000 primaries, but I'm not sure how I feel about him anymore. Giuliani is my top choice right now. I'm pro-life, and I was not a huge fan until I researched his position a little more. He's against partial birth abortion except in the cases where the mother's life is in danger. He's also committed to appointing conservative judges. I support most of his other positions, and I think he's got the best record out of the other Republican and Democratic candidates. I also think he's got a better chance of appealing to the moderate voters than some of the other Republican candidates. I would like to hear more about his views on education, though. It seems like all Republican candidates support school vouchers, which I just don't agree with. I would also like to see a candidate support the repeal of or amendment of No Child Left Behind.

And I also agree that conservation/eco-awareness doesn't have to be a party issue. We also try to eat organic, recycle, etc. I think it's important to be good stewards of all that God has entrusted to us.

[philnikki]

So, on the earlier topic of environmentalism, what did you guys think of this article from the Financial Times yesterday:

Carbon Credits a "Smokescreen" (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/48e334ce-f355-11db-9845-000b5df10621.html)

I am glad that my initial instincts were right...there may be "legitimate" companies out there, but I have no idea how you can actually say its ok to pollute as much as you want as long as you offset it. That's like saying that I can go out and kill as many people as I want to, as long as I save that many lives...it just doesn't make sense, and is an easy out for these politicians who want to talk the talk but not walk the walk (Al Gore, are you listening?).

[LyLMyssChaos]

Did anyone watch the MSNBC Republican debate?

I did and I have to say that it has caused me to reconsider Rudy and Mitt.

[ysolde]

Did anyone watch the MSNBC Republican debate?

I did and I have to say that it has caused me to reconsider Rudy and Mitt.


I have seen bits and pieces of it. I have to say that it, along with the Frontline/American Experience piece on The Mormons, has made me take a second look at Romney, although Rudy is still my man.

[LyLMyssChaos]

My biggest concern about Romney is his very obvious "flip-flopping." He did a pretty good job explaining one of his flip-flops during the debate, but I'm still concerned about him just telling "us" what we want to hear to get elected, then changing his stance once in office.

As far as Rudy goes, I'm really only concerned about his "lack of experience" in a higher position of authority. I know it's silly, but to me, it's sort of like taking that high school player that is awesome, and then throwing them into the pros too soon. It can go one of two ways: Lebron James or Darko Milicic. For a President, we really need a Lebron James.

[PinkMartini]

O/T but does anyone here have a good GOP message board they visit? I've been searching around, but can't seem to find any...

[ysolde]

As far as Rudy goes, I'm really only concerned about his "lack of experience" in a higher position of authority. I know it's silly, but to me, it's sort of like taking that high school player that is awesome, and then throwing them into the pros too soon. It can go one of two ways: Lebron James or Darko Milicic. For a President, we really need a Lebron James.


LOL! But a great analogy. I hear you. However, I think Rudy can pull together a great team to work with him on his international policy, much as Clinton and GWB did.

[thelittlebabu]

Fred Dalton Thompson, anyone? I think he's already stumping and will enter the race late. He's got a Reagan-esque speaking ability and has a commanding presence that can only help a candidate. He's smart and could handle himself well in a debate vs. anyone, including a gifted speaker like Obama.

ETA: Oops, I see his name has been brought up in the past.

[ysolde]

Fred Dalton Thompson, anyone? I think he's already stumping and will enter the race late. He's got a Reagan-esque speaking ability and has a commanding presence that can only help a candidate. He's smart and could handle himself well in a debate vs. anyone, including a gifted speaker like Obama.

Don't know him at all (except as the DA on L & O). Will keep my eyes and ears open.

[LyLMyssChaos]

Well, after watching him on H&C last night, I'm starting to lean the way of Huckabee. I'll need to do some more research into him though.

[Cookie777]

Well, after watching him on H&C last night, I'm starting to lean the way of Huckabee. I'll need to do some more research into him though.

I would like to learn more about him. I read an interview with him in Newsweek I think it was, that I found pretty impressive. I really liked his personality & his answers.

[LyLMyssChaos]

Here is some info on where Huckabee stands:
Mike Huckabee on the Issues (http://www.ontheissues.org/Mike_Huckabee.htm)

One of the ideas that rubs me wrong is that he is against school vouchers. I really would like to see some sort of voucher/tax credit for home schooling.

[thedoorchick]

I like Huckabee best of all the candidates, but I don't see him as a contender, compared to the others.

I'm against vouchers myself, so that's just one of many issues I identify with Huckabee on.

[Cookie777]

Thank you :) Very informative. He is uber conservative. I'm having a hard time fathoming him even getting close in the election after what has happened with Bush. He appears to be more conservative than Bush even. Seems to me like it may not be the best time for him to run.

There are a lot of things he has said that I like. A few others that I think are a matter of preference or belief, although I'm not sure how they would fly with the current state of affairs in this country. Although I'm glad he sticks to what he believes in. Always better than someone who tries to be a people pleaser.

[ysolde]

I go back and forth on the issue of school vouchers. I tend to be idealistic (say my conservative friends) or have a sense of noblesse oblige (say my liberal friends). Either way, I don't want to give up on the public schools. I want to be the parent reading to the kids on Saturday mornings in elementary school, helping Spanish-speaking parents communicate with the teachers at Parent-Teacher conferences, coordinating fundraisers, and putting the community back into the school. I am told none of this is easy, and my children will no doubt end up at the local French school. Sigh.