24...Jack is Back..Day 6

[Sophia]

Please post spoilers in WHITE. Once an episode has aired, it's free to be discussed.

Official Site (http://www.fox.com/24/)

4 Hour Premiere on Sunday, January 14th 2007 & Monday, January 15th 2007

SEASON 6 TRAILER
Are you eager to see what happens next?

As the clock ticks closer to the highly anticipated return, we will make a special, extended Season 6 web trailer available for worldwide viewing.

Fans around the globe will have the opportunity to get the first look at Season Six footage.

Tuesday, Oct. 24th

24trailer.com (http://www.24trailer.com/)

Dave Barry's 24 Blog (http://blogs.herald.com/dave_barrys_blog/24/index.html) was good for some laughs last season.

[Sophia]

There will be new characters/cast members, including:

Sandra Palmer (Regina King)
Phillip Bauer (James Cromwell)
Thomas Lennox (Peter MacNicol)
Darren McCarthy (David Hunt)
Reed Pollock (Chad Lowe)

Other new cast members include:
Kal Penn, Marisol Nichols, Alexander Siddig and Harry Lennix.

[Sophia]

If somebody wants to repost the spoilers from the other thread, that would be great. I didn't read them and don't want to accidentally read anything when I copy/paste.

[alienhost]

I was wondering if Kim Raver (Audrey Raines) was coming back since she is on "The Nine". On imdb she is listed in the 6AM-7AM slot, I wonder if she will be in the entire season?

[Sophia]

Maybe she'll just make an appearance like Kim did last season.

[TracieB]

Woohoo! I can't WAIT for another season of Bauer! Bring it on!

[Sophia]

I found some cast/character info today that's possibly spoilerish:

Powers Boothe has been tapped to play the new vice president on Fox's "24."

<snip>

On "24," from 20th Century Fox TV and Imagine TV, Boothe will play Noah Daniels, the vice president under new U.S. President Wayne Palmer (D.B. Woodside).

source (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3ithNr3yMc%2BZ9LCyvPJ4nDJw%3D%3D)

[Neen]

I'm happy to see Chole back!!! YEA!!!

[ausi2b]

Have you all seen the trailer for Season 6 online yet? I think it was released yesterday. SO good - I'm so excited for January!

www.24trailer.com

[kugrrly]

I can not wait! I love me some Jack!!!! :) :)

[sheartm7]

Just over a month to go - so excited!

[kugrrly]

Anybody else getting excited about 24? The two night 4 hour premiere will be January 14 and 15.

I wonder how Jack will get out of the Chinese prison?

I am pumped up for some Chloe and Jack!!!!!

[Sophia]

There's already a season 6 thread here (http://www.constantchatter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25930).

[Sophia]

*bump*

The new season is getting near. :D

[kugrrly]

Whoops...I was so excited that I did not do a search. :)

[Sophia]

Hee hee...I was so excited I started the thread months before the season starts. :)

And you've posted here before, too. LOL

[kugrrly]

And you've posted here before, too. LOL

how sad.... :)

I am getting excited!!!!

[Sophia]

It just means you're really, really excited. ;)

I wonder what the situation is going to be. How much time will have passed, where is Jack and how's he doing, how he'll get invloved in the action ('cause he'd better!), all that. I'm avoiding spoilers, though, so if anyone posts spoliers please do so in white. ;)

[kugrrly]

I read the spoilers last season, and I wish I would not have. This season I trying to avoid them.

Sophia~I am wondering everything that you are.
Also how Jack's dad is going to fit in with the story, and how Chloe is going to save Jack this time.

[Sazoo]

DH & I are SOOO excited for 24 to begin in a few weeks! :D We watched seasons 1-4 on DVD over the summer, then purchased & zoomed through season 5 as soon as it was released on DVD earlier this month. Just finished the last episode last night so we are READY!

I generally do read spoilers that people post here on CC for the shows I watch, but I might try to avoid them for this next season of 24. Since we watched all of the past seasons after they'd aired on TV, we knew tons of "spoilers" so a lot of the big shocker surprises were not so unexpected for us. :( On the other hand, when someone posts a spoiler in white...how can I resist reading it?!?!? :p

[jesseybell]

Every year DH get's me '24' for Christmas (though we watch it in real time too). Last night we watched the Day 6 "prequel" off the Day 5 DVD. I can't wait for the season to start!

[PinkMartini]

Ooooh I can't wait... 24 rocks! Only sucky thing is waiting until the next week :( We watched season 1 & 2 on DVD prior to season 3 starting and it was SO nice being able to watch them back to back.. Then when we watched season 3, I missed being able to keep watching :o

[Sazoo]

Only sucky thing is waiting until the next week :( We watched season 1 & 2 on DVD prior to season 3 starting and it was SO nice being able to watch them back to back.. Then when we watched season 3, I missed being able to keep watching :o This is what I'm worried about - we've watched all 5 seasons on DVD so far, so it's going to be REALLY annoying having to wait a whole week in between episodes all of the sudden. :(

[Sophia]

Just a couple more weeks! :)

[KaliLily]

There will be new characters/cast members, including:

Sandra Palmer (Regina King)
Phillip Bauer (James Cromwell)
Thomas Lennox (Peter MacNicol)
Darren McCarthy (David Hunt)
Reed Pollock (Chad Lowe)

Other new cast members include:
Kal Penn, Marisol Nichols, Alexander Siddig and Harry Lennix.

Don't forget Rick Schroder as Mike Doyle, a CTU operative and partner for Jack! (Posted in white in case it's considered a spoiler.) I'm so excited he's joining 24!!!!! :D :D :D

Does anyone know the "official" night & time for 24 after the 2-night premiere?

[sem426]

I didn't know about that last spoiler that KaliLily posted! Can't wait!

I believe it's regular time is Mondays at 9pm just like last year.

[KaliLily]

I believe it's regular time is Mondays at 9pm just like last year.

Oh good! I thought it was going to be on Sundays at 10, and that would conflict with Without A Trace. With Justice apparently moved to Fridays, Monday is perfect for 24! :D

[sem426]

Oh good! I thought it was going to be on Sundays at 10, and that would conflict with Without A Trace. With Justice apparently moved to Fridays, Monday is perfect for 24! :D

It definitely wouldn't be at 10 since FOX only has 2 hours of Primetime programming and the local news goes on at 10pm (on the east coast).

[Chimichanga]

Can't wait for next week! Whoot whoot!!!

DH and I have been watching faithfully since hour 1 (can't really say day 1 now can I ;) ) and this season looks to be pretty good.

[Rosebud]

Have you all seen the extended trailer for the new season that's on the Fox website? It's pretty cool! I'm SO EXCITED for the premiere!!

"24" Season 6 Extended Trailer (http://www.fox.com/24/trailer/index.htm)

Oh, and I'm loving Chloe's hair this season!!

[KaliLily]

Thanks for the link to the trailer, Rosebud. That was awesome!

I must admit, I was a diehard 24 fan until the end of season 3. I didn't like the final scene, and was very unhappy when I heard over the following summer that most of the cast wasn't returning. However, over this past summer I decided to rent season 4 and was immediately drawn back in. I couldn't wait to get my hands on Season 5. DH bought it for me for Christmas and I finished it by Dec 27! :eek: TV shows on DVD are a very good thing!

[Michelle]

Yay 24! I can't wait until Sunday! My DVR is already set! :)

[jesseybell]

DH and I had our first "date" one night watching 24 during Season 2 and we've been watching it ever since. We can't wait for next Sunday.

We've got 6 days to move DD's bedtime up to before 9 pm - even with the DVR we are geeks and want to be there glued to the tv at 9 (though next week will be all screwed up with the 2 nights of it starting at 8....and then the week after that Prison Break starts again!!!)

[Sophia]

The new promos are getting me so excited! Just a couple more days!

FYI: Keifer is going to be on Regis & Kelly today.

[Sophia]

Oh, and there's an article I saw on CNN here (http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/01/11/apontv.24returns.ap/index.html), but I didn't read it because it had a spoiler warning. :eek:

[Sophia]

Tonight's the night! I'm excited. :)

[LeslieandPaul]

I've never actually watched new episodes (saw a couple repeats here and there, and have seen seasons 2-4 on dvd), but I'm going to watch tonight (I've read a bit about season 5 so I kind of know what happened). I've seen a few trailers and it looks really good!

[mrs_pell]

I'm so excited it starts tonight!!! I was laughing to DH last night that between tonight and tomorrow, we get 1/6th of the season! :D That's what's going to be hard...watching 4 hours this week, then having to go back to one a week. I kinda wish they'd just put them straight to DVD so we could watch all at once! :)

[Sophia]

I've never actually watched new episodes (saw a couple repeats here and there, and have seen seasons 2-4 on dvd), but I'm going to watch tonight (I've read a bit about season 5 so I kind of know what happened). I've seen a few trailers and it looks really good!

Wikipedia has synopses of each season if you want to fill in any gaps.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24_(TV_series)

[mrs_pell]

FIVE MINUTES UNTIL...


JACK IS BACK!!

[mrs_pell]

OK...seriously? Jack just about made me throw up in my mouth when he bit that guy...

[LeslieandPaul]

. I kinda wish they'd just put them straight to DVD so we could watch all at once! :)

That's what DH says! It sure would be nice!
I went on epguides.com today and read all the recaps of season 5 (and the other day I watched the last 3 minutes of the last episode on youtube)

[mrs_pell]

I'm so glad this is back on! I like the way this one is starting! I hope it's a great season!

Poor Jack...He's had a pretty eventful 2 hours, huh? Only 22 more to go! ;)

[Sophia]

Poor Jack. It's like he's broken. I was so sad when he was wrong about that guy he was interrogating. Jack is never wrong...till now. :(

I'm also distressed that "Kumar" is a bad guy. :(

[chefker]

OK...seriously? Jack just about made me throw up in my mouth when he bit that guy...

LOL...that was just about as bad as Patrick Swayze ripping out a guy's throat in Roadhouse.

"Jack was right." Duh, Wayne! He's ALWAYS right! David would have called off that air strike, I think.

So Morris is now with CTU? I don't recall if they explained how that happened? :confused:

I think Jack will get his groove back--like that Assad guy said (I keep wanting to type Asswad, must be careful :o ) "you'll remember!" It was sad though, when he seemed like he thought he lost his touch.

[LeslieandPaul]

It made me so nauseous when Jack bit that guy! (and then they went and showed it again before the second episode!
I know Kal Penn's character is a bad guy, but it still makes me so mad that that guy was beating him up.
I kept thinking the neighbour kid was familiar, and then I looked him up and it was like, duh! He was on Will & Grace and Sky High among other things.

[skyblu]

Okay, don't bite my head off, Jack fans, but I thought last night's episodes were not that great. A HUGE stretch, even more so than the prvious 5 seasons!

I mean, come on. The US government is going to hand over one of thier own to be tortured and killed without some sort of backup plan or guarantee that the terrorist will indeed give up his pal? And they'll BLOW UP a terrorist's house, in the middle of a nationwide state of panic because of bombs and such? Why wouldn't they send in a huge CIA/SWAT/whatever team to storm the place and make SURE they capture the guy they want? I mean, what if Assad had gone out for milk or something when the house was blwon up? Wouldn't the government make DAMN SURE that a) this was their guy, and b) he was there?

Anyway.

And Jack biting that guy's throat was, um...well, ridiculous.

A question, though. Was Fayed saying the truth, that Jack had done the same things (torture-wise) to his brother? It bothers me that when Jack kills/tortures/maims, we perceive as good/heroic. But when the "bad guys" do it, we think it's horrifying.

Okay, off the soapbox.

I hope the rest of the season gets a bit more...believable?

[emschwar]

Man, the neck biting thing was nasty! And I was already close to puking from morning sickness! I didn't need that.

[Chimichanga]

I think it is true that Jack had done that to his brother. He was one of CTU's top field agents and that included interrogation. I don't think anyone thinks it's "good" when Jack does it (at least I don't). In the last few seasons, he's sort of shown a compasionate side.

I was sad when Jack said he forgot how to do this. He eluded to it in the previews for later as well.

Morris was ticking me off - I want to seriously biyatch slap him. I also felt Chloe's pain when she realized she could have gotten Jack killed for nothing. I was starting to tear up. :o

[Sophia]

Neck biting: that made me LMAO. I said something like "Woo hoo, just like Ozzy!" :D

Torture/interrogation: I'm sure Jack tortured Fayed's brother. The thing is that when Jack did it he was trying to get info, and Fayed was going to do it just for revenge. Is torture during interrogation ok? No. I really dislike that idea. But torture for revenge is quite a bit worse, IMO.

Realism: I guess I just don't expect the show to be super realistic. That's not why I watch. I watch because it can generally get my pulse going, and it's fun to root for Jack. I notice lots of improbable and/or impossible things, but I choose to ignore them.

[kcjaime]

I agree with Sophia. I don't watch 24 for its realism, mostly b/c there really isn't any most of the time. :p I watch it for the entertainment factor, the excitement. This show has been on for several years now, and they pretty much had to go over the top to make the show work the first time around, just because of how its set up. And to continue to make it a viable, interesting show for this many seasons, it's going to go above and beyond believable.

Admittedly, DH and I sometimes mock some of the things they do on the show in good humor, but we love the show, anyway. :)

I was grossed out by him biting that guy's neck, though. Yuck. But Jack does what he has to do!

Thought it was pretty good last night, but definitely think tonight will be more action-packed! :D

[Tanya]

Arrgh! Where do we know the tall weasely guy with the mustache at CTU from? And thanks, I could not place the kid until now--Will and Grace! David would have without a doubt called off that airstrike.

I am so bummed my favorite Physics prof and kooky lawyer (Peter MacNichol) is the loser presidential assistant. Is Mike completely out of the picture?

So is "Kumar's" dad innocent?

And yeah, since the first season, I haven't watched this show because it's realistic. You have to completely suspend reality to watch this. That's why my dad stopped watching it, but I told him, he doesn't get it, it's entertainment!

[jeanine]

Arrgh! Where do we know the tall weasely guy with the mustache at CTU from?

He was Claire's BF on Six Feet Under and Teresa's BF on The OC. I think he was in the remake of Texas Chainsaw Massacre too.

[Tanya]

He was Claire's BF on Six Feet Under and Teresa's BF on The OC. I think he was in the remake of Texas Chainsaw Massacre too.

Oh, ok, so he wasn't in a past season of 24. I though I was forgetting someone. I can't stand his character already and it doesn't help that he looks like a tool;).

[clammyinsf]

Oh, ok, so he wasn't in a past season of 24. I though I was forgetting someone. I can't stand his character already and it doesn't help that he looks like a tool;).

actually, i think he was in a past season.... wasn't he one of the CTU drones working w/ kim the one season she was employed there?

[Sophia]

I don't even remember a tall weasely guy with a mustache. :confused:

[Chimichanga]

The tall weasly guy with the 'stache was on Season 1. He was one of the analysts with Nina and Jaime. He went away for awhile but I guess is now back.

[Sophia]

Do you mean "Milo"? He's played by Eric Balfour, and according to IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0050156/) this is his first season on 24.

Nope. I clicked on another link (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0050156/filmoseries#tt0285331) in his bio and he was on in 2001 and 2002 as well. The character's name is Milo Pressman.

I had to check the first few minutes of last night's episode to see who everyone's talking about. I'm glad it wasn't deleted yet.

[jesseybell]

I kept looking at the neighbor kid to see if he was Sean's son on Will and Grace. Some angles I really thought it was him and other angles I thought I was wrong.

Milo was in previous seasons, but I don't really remember him.

The throat thing was really nasty - I had to look away.

It definitely is a lot less real than previous seasons (not that previous seasons were real!) but I loved it. Can't wait for tonight!! I think (this isn't a spoiler) there is supposed to be some big twist tonight - I can't wait!

Not sad to not see Audrey :) Though I would take her over Kim any day.

I am just SO glad it's back on!

Though in previous seasons I've had serious withdrawals after 4 hours in 2 days...then having to go to 1 hour a week is torture.

[sheartm7]

3 words - Jack is FINE. :D

[Tanya]

Yep, Milo. I think I have bad vibes from him in the past, now that I remember when he was on (working w/Kim).

[LeslieandPaul]

I kept looking at the neighbor kid to see if he was Sean's son on Will and Grace. Some angles I really thought it was him and other angles I thought I was wrong.


It's him. I looked him up because I knew I'd seen him in something before.

[andy's di]

I kept looking at the neighbor kid to see if he was Sean's son on Will and Grace. Some angles I really thought it was him and other angles I thought I was wrong.

He was also in Lords of Dogtown as 'Sid'....can't wait for part two tonight!!!

[mrs_pell]

O.........M..............G.............!!!!!!!


i CANNOT believe that just happened!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

[vjel]

:eek: :eek: :eek:

ditto mrs_pell!!!

[mrs_pell]

Wow....at first I thought that what happened at the end was going to happen, but then once my first :eek: happened, I figured that was the big "thing" to happen tonight, so I wasn't really expecting the 2nd :eek: !!

YIKES! This season's starting with a bang (no pun inteneded)! Wonder what that means for all our favorite people?!?

[emschwar]

HOLY CRAP! Damn!

BTW, everyone should look here - http://www.tropichunt.com/24 It's good for a laugh (no spoilers, don't worry)

And from Dave Barry's Blog:
UPDATE: OK, let's look on the bright side. This is probably covered by various homeowner insurance policies.
http://blogs.herald.com/dave_barrys_blog/24/index.html

[Sophia]

:eek: #1 made me cry, for Curtis and for Jack

:eek: #2 made my face feel numb

[carrie9142]

Two things-

First, those motivational posters are HILARIOUS. My favorite is Remorse. And Geeks.

Second, from the Dave Barry blog...
"jack! It's Bill! How's it going man?" made me laugh hysterically. I don't know why.

[emschwar]

Two things-

First, those motivational posters are HILARIOUS. My favorite is Remorse. And Geeks.

Second, from the Dave Barry blog...
"jack! It's Bill! How's it going man?" made me laugh hysterically. I don't know why.

Remorse was my favorite too!

[LeslieandPaul]

OMG!!! That was crazy! I was shocked at the Jack/Curtis thing, and then the end! Holy smokes that was intense! Should be interesting next week!

[alienhost]

I'm also distressed that "Kumar" is a bad guy. :( same here...

Does anyone feel this season is very predictable? I saw the Curtis/Jack and the ending coming. Just the way they set it up with him asking Chloe to check it out I thought "oh god something really bad is going to happen b/w Jack/Assad/Curtis"

It still was shocking though, and I think that is why I am awake at 1:41 am!

What's the deal with Wayne Palmer's sister - she is getting on my nerves!

Oh and I had totally forgotten about ER's Robert Romano's character...

[alienhost]

Second, from the Dave Barry blog...
"jack! It's Bill! How's it going man?" made me laugh hysterically. I don't know why.


I was calling Bill the "cheerleader" all night. "Come on Jack, you can dooooo it".

ETA: I can't take the Tom character seriously - I keep thinking of Ally McBeal and the automatic toilet flusher remote he used! :)

[AnastasiaK]

I freaking L O V E this show. I am so not expecting a realistic show. I watch more for the anxiety and excitement I get from it. It is just an amazing show in my opinion. I get sooo stressed just watching. I love the Milo charachter too, he was also in that Law and Order show last season called Conviction that I loved that suprisingly was not picked up. Can not wait for next week. Jack is sooo pissed and ready to get em. Can not stand the Tom charachter but there always has to be one. I have a feeling that the Prez's sister boyfriend is going to last too long.

[skyblu]

I fell asleep! No! Okay, hopefully, FH didn't delete it from the DVR. Now that I see all the :eek: :eek: :eek: 's, I really want to watch and see what happened! Must.stay.away. from thread until I watch....

[jeanine]

Does anyone feel this season is very predictable? I saw the Curtis/Jack and the ending coming. Just the way they set it up with him asking Chloe to check it out I thought "oh god something really bad is going to happen b/w Jack/Assad/Curtis"


Yeah, we figured something would happen too, but it was still shocking! Poor Jack (and Curtis).

I was on my feet by the end of last night's show.

[sheartm7]

I saw the Curtis/Jack and the ending coming. Yah, same here. FH called it about 30 minutes before it happened.

The whole thing with Amed (sp?) really annoyed me. I know this show is not realistic, but c'mon - he's a kid and he's INJURED and no one even tries to go for his gun?! And I can't believe that the father was so intimidated by him that he wouldn't go to the cops instead of delivering that device. Love the show, but that part annoyed me.

[phoenics]

I saw that too - Curtis and his facial expressions had me and my cousin and aunt laughing hysterically.

I had a feeling this would be Curtis' last season before the season started. And as soon as curtis expressed angst over Assad from jump, I just knew he was a goner. I'd hoped he'd get more of a real story - but nooooooo. I'm still hurt over it.

And everytime the family that Ahmed took hostage said his name wrong, my family and I screamed, 'It's ahk' med!' at the television. So much more fun watching this show with friends and family.

Still bummed over Curtis though.

[phoenics]

He was Claire's BF on Six Feet Under and Teresa's BF on The OC. I think he was in the remake of Texas Chainsaw Massacre too.

He's been in some other stuff too but I can't remember what right now... wait - there was that shortlived show - Hawaii?

I think he was on that too?

[phoenics]

24 and realism?

LMBO! 24 has never been realistic. Look at all the times Chloe managed to get a perfectly crisp image from a completely low-res and fuzzy image (just one image)... no edge detection algorithm is THAT good.

I love 24 because it's heart pounding and it makes for a fun hour of tv. Much better than anything else out there. Though - what in the world will they do next season for high drama?

[alienhost]

The whole thing with Amed (sp?) really annoyed me. I know this show is not realistic, but c'mon - he's a kid and he's INJURED and no one even tries to go for his gun?! And I can't believe that the father was so intimidated by him that he wouldn't go to the cops instead of delivering that device. Love the show, but that part annoyed me.


not to mention Ahmed was hopped up on prescription pain meds!

question can someone remind me what happened to Prez Logan at the end of last season? I can't for the life of me recall how they ended it with him.

[jesseybell]

President Logan- He was arrested by the Secret Service. His wife turned him in.

I saw the Curtis thing coming, but it was still sad.

I didn't see the end happening.I was pretty shocked.

I know this show is rated 14 but I find myself hoping that small kids aren't watching this season more than other seasons. Its just way too graphic and way too many heavy topics (though I still love it!)

Before the end, knowing there would be something big, there was a period of time I really thought they might off Jack.

He really does look fine in those jeans and that shirt. Looked good on the GG last night too.

[emschwar]

Before the end, knowing there would be something big, there was a period of time I really thought they might off Jack.

Isn't Jack (and everyone else there) pretty much guaranteed getting very sick (if not dead) from the effects of radiation from being that close to the blast? I mean, I don't know how far away they were, but if you could see it in the sky like that, I'd guess they were close enough for fallout.

[Sophia]

I'm also interested in how they're going to "deal" with the radition fallout. Karen just gave stats on how many would die in the initial blast & fallout, so it'll be especially unrealistic if they just ignore it now. I guess they could all be upwind of it. :rolleyes:

[carrie9142]

We were discussing the radiation fallout, too. I was all "Run inside, Jack!" but then we decided it wouldn't matter if you were that close.

I can't remember if it was this show or another one, but they were talking about radiation getting sucked into the atmosphere, acid rain, death and destruction for all. For decades to come.

[JamBray]

The whole thing with Amed (sp?) really annoyed me. I know this show is not realistic, but c'mon - he's a kid and he's INJURED and no one even tries to go for his gun?! And I can't believe that the father was so intimidated by him that he wouldn't go to the cops instead of delivering that device. Love the show, but that part annoyed me.
It annoyed me too. I mean if I were the mom, I would have pounded his injury making him instinctively grab his leg, yell out in pain, and drop the gun. DUH! :p And why didn't the kid do anything with the knife? Geez!

I was really upset that Jack killed Curtis, and found that completely unnecessary. I mean why didn't he shoot him in the arm or something? Did it really have to be a fatal shot?

I at first thought that the explosion was a dream Jack was having, but really :eek: when I saw it wasn't!

I too was grossed out about Jack biting that guy's neck, and also when Jack got stabbed in the back with that insanely huge needle, and when Assad stabbed that guy in the knee! Yikes this was a pretty violent season premiere!

[alienhost]

Isn't Jack (and everyone else there) pretty much guaranteed getting very sick (if not dead) from the effects of radiation from being that close to the blast? I mean, I don't know how far away they were, but if you could see it in the sky like that, I'd guess they were close enough for fallout.

yeah I think he, under "normal" circumstances would be a goner, but he is "Jack". Remember the season when he went into the room with the nerve gas with a bandana over his mouth/nose and was OK? That's why I try not to focus on the realism aspect of the show, or it would drive me nuts.

AND I think I have to stop watching 24 just before I go to bed, I was up past 2AM last night b/c I was so hyped up!!! :rolleyes:

[skyblu]

It annoyed me too. I mean if I were the mom, I would have pounded his injury making him instinctively grab his leg, yell out in pain, and drop the gun. DUH! :p And why didn't the kid do anything with the knife? Geez!

I was really upset that Jack killed Curtis, and found that completely unnecessary. I mean why didn't he shoot him in the arm or something? Did it really have to be a fatal shot?

I agree with both these points. I'm a mom and if that had been my kid, well, first of all, the drugs I would have been giving Ahmed (AKH-med!!!) would have been Xanax or something else to make him sleepy. THEN, I would have kicked his ass for scaring my baby.

And the whole Curtis thing, dude. I know, I know the show doesn't have to be realistic, but he could have TOTALLY shot Curtis in the arm or leg. Or at least tried. They could have had Curtis move or something and get the bullet in the chest if they wanted to get rid of him (the writers, I mean). But to have Jack shoot to kill? Come on!

I have to admit that, despite knowing something big was coming, I, too was :eek: at the nu-cu-lar explosion.

[alienhost]

And the whole Curtis thing, dude. I know, I know the show doesn't have to be realistic, but he could have TOTALLY shot Curtis in the arm or leg. Or at least tried. They could have had Curtis move or something and get the bullet in the chest if they wanted to get rid of him (the writers, I mean). But to have Jack shoot to kill? Come on!

I have to repectfully disagree, I think it was realistic, Curtis was holding a gun to Assad's neck/head, the only way to be sure Curtis couldn't kill him was to kill Curtis. If Jack had shot him in the arm/chest/leg or whatever, Curtis may have had time to react and kill Assad. Police and Federal Agents really don't mess around!

[jnshanna]

I'm a lurker but I had to share that E! is showing the 24 True Hollywood Story now. I TiVo'd it and just watched. It was really cool! They'll rerun it over and over so if you want to watch you're sure to catch it. :)

[Sophia]

I have to repectfully disagree, I think it was realistic, Curtis was holding a gun to Assad's neck/head, the only way to be sure Curtis couldn't kill him was to kill Curtis. If Jack had shot him in the arm/chest/leg or whatever, Curtis may have had time to react and kill Assad. Police and Federal Agents really don't mess around!

Agreed.

Plus, wasn't Curtis standing right behind Assad with only his head and neck visible anyway?

[Tanya]

Agreed.

Plus, wasn't Curtis standing right behind Assad with only his head and neck visible anyway?


Plus plus, he was wearing a flack jacket. The only places to shoot were arms, legs, and head area, and like a pp said, in the arms or legs he could still get a shot off. At least it wasn't the head. But since it's Jack, I still think he could have gone for the hand holding the gun, but then he might have hit Assad.

Yeah, the mom could have given him something other that pain killers. The kid didn't even look at the bottle.

[LauraPerg]

I'm usually just a lurker in here, but I had a quick question about the Curtis scene...did he really die? I thought he did for sure at first, but DH said he wasn't so sure if they actually killed him off or if was just severely injured.

[Sophia]

I'm pretty sure Curtis is dead.

[literati]

I missed the second two hours. Does anyone know where I can find them?

[TracieB]

literati - I'm pretty sure you can download the episodes on iTunes.

----

Was I the only one who thought it was funny that Ahmed and his friend (the hostage boy - name??) were supposed to be the same age?? Ahmed looked sooo much older!!

I'm loving this season so far!! I keep worrying that Jack's going to get killed though. Now THAT would be a shocker.

[Sophia]

Was I the only one who thought it was funny that Ahmed and his friend (the hostage boy - name??) were supposed to be the same age?? Ahmed looked sooo much older!!


Maybe because Kal Penn (Ahmed) is almost 30 and Michael Angarano (Scott) is 19. I agree--it was very distracting and pretty ridiculous.

[emschwar]

I missed the second two hours. Does anyone know where I can find them?

There was an ad during the 2nd 2 hours that said the 4 hour premiere was being released on dvd tuesday. So if nothing else, you could alway buy it on dvd.


Was I the only one who thought it was funny that Ahmed and his friend (the hostage boy - name??) were supposed to be the same age?? Ahmed looked sooo much older!!

I kept saying to DH "he's supposed to be a teenager?!"

[KaliLily]

Was I the only one who thought it was funny that Ahmed and his friend (the hostage boy - name??) were supposed to be the same age?? Ahmed looked sooo much older!!



They were? I just figured Ahmed was a college student and the boy was going to him for help with his high school work.

[KaliLily]

I agree with both these points. I'm a mom and if that had been my kid, well, first of all, the drugs I would have been giving Ahmed (AKH-med!!!) would have been Xanax or something else to make him sleepy. THEN, I would have kicked his ass for scaring my baby.


Maybe she didn't have anything like that. She's a nurse, not a doctor. I was surprised Ahmed didn't pass out from all of those pain killers though. He was downing them like they were M&Ms! :)

[mrs_pell]

24 puts Muslims back in terrorist role, stirring protests

CLIFTON, N.J. — Two years ago, Muslim groups protested when the plot of the hit Fox drama 24 cast Islamic terrorists as the villains who launched a stolen nuclear missile in an attack on America.

Now, after a one-year respite during which Russian separatists played the bad guys on the critically acclaimed series, Muslims are back in the evil spotlight. Unlike last time, when agent Jack Bauer saved the day, the terrorists this time have already succeeded in detonating a nuclear bomb in a Los Angeles suburb.

Being portrayed again as the heartless wrongdoers has drawn renewed protests from Muslim groups, including one that had a meeting with Fox executives two years ago over the issue.

"The overwhelming impression you get is fear and hatred for Muslims," said Rabiah Ahmed, a spokeswoman for the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations. She said Thursday she was distressed by this season's premiere. "After watching that show, I was afraid to go to the grocery store because I wasn't sure the person next to me would be able to differentiate between fiction and reality."

More here. (http://chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/entertainment/4480931.html)

[mrs_pell]

F**k diplomacy.

Actions speak louder than words. Though shouting can also be effective.

If you shoot a man's wife in the knee and he still doesn't give you the information, he's bad.

Revenge is the cruelest trick. I've seen it taken out on others, I've been victim to it, I've even done it myself. But it doesn't change anything, and it doesn't bring comfort.

Trust is the key to survival. And by trust, I mean getting out of the way and letting me do what I need to do.

The only thing harder than racing to stop a madman from releasing a deadly virus that will kill thousands of people is doing it while simultaneously trying to kick heroin.

I've been beaten, kidnapped, gassed, and shot at, but the most terrifying thing I've ever been through was facing my daughter after I made her believe I was dead.

I eat a lot of bananas. They're a good source of vitamin B and potassium.

They're also easy to take on the move.

Love is a privilege.

If you have to trust someone, make it a quirky computer genius.

If I say "dammit," either something bad just happened, something bad is about to happen, or I'm going to do something drastic.

Any man can make a mistake. It's what he does to remedy that mistake that shows his character.

You better know who you are before you go undercover. If you don't, you could easily lose yourself.

Always carry at least one spare fully charged cell-phone battery.

So many times when I thought there was no more time, there was.

When interrogating a suspect, I've often found it effective to ask the question loudly and repeat it several times.

Remember, terrorists use the phone as much as we do.

In the event of a highway landing, always fasten your seat belt and return your chair and tray table to their upright and locked positions.

It's all key cards and thumb drives these days.

If the president of the United States ever orders you to shoot your boss in the head at point-blank range in cold blood, take a deep breath, ask God to forgive you, and just do it.

Without conscience, a man becomes his worst enemy.

Sometimes it's necessary to create a believable diversion, even at the risk of others thinking you're an ***hole.

A cell phone can sometimes be used to activate a secondary detonator on a terrorist's explosive vest regardless of how many minutes are left on your plan.

Dead terrorists can often be effectively used as human shields. So can live ones.

Bureaucrats want results but never want to get their hands dirty.

The safety of the people I love is worth any sacrifice. Even their trust.

Some people don't deserve to die, but that's not my call.

Serbs have a different word for everything.

If you don't have a Taser gun, the wires from a lamp will deliver the current needed to shock your subject just enough to get him to give up the information you need without doing any permanent damage.

Sometimes you have to do the wrong thing for the right reasons.

You can't save everyone.

If you see me running down the street, it's probably a good idea to take cover.

Don't piss off the Chinese

[mrs_pell]

Kiefer really needs to cut the drinking out! First the Christmas tree, now his own action figure! But...I must say, I died laughing when I read this, because I was TOTALLY picturing it in my head!! :D


Kiefer Sutherland only has himself to blame for the delay of his 24 action figure - he set fire to the prototype during a drunken night out.

The action man's new figure has been developed by McFarlane Toys and will hit stores later this year (07), but the mini-Jack Bauer should have hit shelves much earlier.

Sutherland explains, "They tried to come out with one a couple of years ago and they had sent me the doll for my approval... We took the doll out for a night to have some fun and we'd had some drinks. We sat it on the corner of the table.

"We started torturing him around 11 o'clock at night, and, by two o'clock in the morning, we had set him on fire in the parking lot.

"We got up the next day and there was just this puddle of wax. His clothes didn't burn, which I thought was pretty cool... and then I got a call the next day saying, 'Did you like the doll?' I said, 'Yeah, it was great.' And they said, 'Well, Ok, good, you gotta send it back to us because that was the prototype... It took that guy a year to make it.'

"I said, 'Well, let me look for it, I think I left it in the trailer.' This went on for about a week and then I had to just kinda come clean. (c) WENN

From here (http://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_21259030.shtml)

[kugrrly]

OH MY! Quite the little twist.

[carrie9142]

I so can not remember who glasses guy is. I vaguely remember him from last year. I swear, we forget the storylines the minute they are gone.

[kugrrly]

he was in cahoots with the russians. He was always shown talking on the phone behind his desk. His name was never mentioned.

[emschwar]

DAMN. That was a twist!

[mrs_pell]

he was in cahoots with the russians. He was always shown talking on the phone behind his desk. His name was never mentioned.

He was also the one talking with the f'd up Pres from last year. He was the one who kept convincing the Pres (can't remember his name...I think I've banned it from my memories! ;) ) that Jack had to die. And, I totally didn't expect him to be who we found out he was tonight! Looks like Jack had to know that *something* was off with him and didn't trust him, but I can't imagine that Jack would know he was that bad! Also wonder what's up with the guy's wife and Jack?

[carrie9142]

We must have purged the Russians from our brain. We could only remember the year before that. With the Muslims and the nuclear weapons. Wait...

So Bald, Glasses Guy was pulling the strings of bad Pres? I kind of remember, but still not tons. Looks like he had good reason to give up Jack! We were yelling at the TV "You do NOT mess around with Jack Bauer!"

This was me watching tonight...
GASP! Jack has a father?!
GASP! Jack has a brother?!
DH: where did you think he came from?
Me: I thought the US government hatched him from a Petri dish and trained him to be a kick-ass CTU agent.
DH: Kind of like on Alias?
Me: Yeah, kind of!

[kugrrly]

he was in with Logan. I had it confused.

[skyblu]

That was a good twist!!

Glasses guy (I shall forever think of him as a-hole Dr. Romano from ER) was the one who was talking to Logan and putting him in touch with the Russians, the whole thing with the nerve gas, etc. He also was the one who talked Logan into killing himself when he was outed, although at the last minute something else happened (don't remember what) and Logan didn't off himself.

How much of that does Jack know, I wonder, because it seemed totally out of left field when he smacked the dude and tied him up.

Another question: where's Waleed supposed to be from? At one point, when he relayed that Arabic phrase to his girlfriend (the President's sister) that he overheard those other guys saying, he said to her "I don't know what it means because I don't speak Arabic."

[TracieB]

He was also the one talking with the f'd up Pres from last year. He was the one who kept convincing the Pres (can't remember his name...I think I've banned it from my memories! ;) ) that Jack had to die. And, I totally didn't expect him to be who we found out he was tonight! Looks like Jack had to know that *something* was off with him and didn't trust him, but I can't imagine that Jack would know he was that bad! Also wonder what's up with the guy's wife and Jack?

You're right! I was trying to figure that out most of the episode! Gah, my hubby's going to flip when I tell him - it was driving us crazy!!!

[alienhost]

that was a good twist. Who knew Jack had a father and a brother. When it was mentioned last night that he had a brother, I said to DH, "don't even tell me that Jack's brother is Dr. Romano from ER." Crazy twist.

I guess there's no love between the two of them since Jack had no issues torturing him.

I wonder what was between Jack and his brother's wife. Was she ever in the first season when Teri was alive?

Was his brother named Graham - Jack was calling him Gray?

Anyway it's getting interesting!

[Sophia]

This was me & DH last night: :eek:

Apparently Jack's BS detector is extra accurate when dealing with his bro.

[kugrrly]

I wonder what was between Jack and his brother's wife. Was she ever in the first season when Teri was alive?


This is the first mention of any of them.

[Secret_Squirrel]

How much of that does Jack know, I wonder, because it seemed totally out of left field when he smacked the dude and tied him up.

Right before Jack smacked him, he said something to Jack about how the Chinese treated him.

If he hasn't seen Jack since the funeral, how would he know about the Chinese? Because everyone else in the world (except the daughter - Kim?) thought he was still dead, right?

And speaking of Jack's daughter, did anyone else notice that Graham's son bears a striking resemblance to her? Hmmm, how close was Jack to his wife?

[sheartm7]

And speaking of Jack's daughter, did anyone else notice that Graham's son bears a striking resemblance to her? Hmmm, how close was Jack to his wife? I noticed that too - they definitely look a lot alike.

[Tanya]

Right before Jack smacked him, he said something to Jack about how the Chinese treated him.

If he hasn't seen Jack since the funeral, how would he know about the Chinese? Because everyone else in the world (except the daughter - Kim?) thought he was still dead, right?

Right, but that was the season before. Last season everyone found out Jack was alive but was captured by the Chinese.

Wasn't Dr. Romano in on the plot to assassinate David Palmer as well? That's really gonna piss Jack off when he finds that out.

I wonder if the writers planned this all along (for him to be Jack's brother), or if this was something they just decided. They had him be Mr. Mystery-Man last season, so they could have made him anyone.

I still don't like Karen. Bill has such pretty eyes, but the two of them bug me.

And Palmer's sister, arrgh!! She is beyond obnoxious.

This is hilarious:
A cell phone can sometimes be used to activate a secondary detonator on a terrorist's explosive vest regardless of how many minutes are left on your plan.

[JamBray]

My mouth was hanging open last night when it was revealed that Graham was Jack's brother! He thinks Jacks beating him up now? Wait until he finds out the whole story!

When they showed the previews for next week I was kind of hoping that Jack's father was going to be played by Donald Sutherland. :p
And speaking of Jack's daughter, did anyone else notice that Graham's son bears a striking resemblance to her? Hmmm, how close was Jack to his wife?
That's what my husband was saying as well. If it's true, it'd be interesting to know the timeline on that.

Palmer's sister is aggravating me too. It seems that no matter what I've seen that actress in she's always throwing some kind of fit on someone.
although at the last minute something else happened (don't remember what) and Logan didn't off himself.
Logan didn't off himself because of that agent working with Homeland Security at CTU that called him after Karen confided in him. He then went into talk with Chole and erased the recording.

[sheartm7]

I was kind of hoping that Jack's father was going to be played by Donald Sutherland. I told FH the exact same thing. :) That would of been cool.

[sem426]

I saw the cast on Larry King Live last week and Larry asked about Donald playing Jack's dad...Keifer said that Donald was working on something else at the time.

DH and I both also said...i wonder if Graham's son is really Jacks? It seemed that Jack and the wife had something going on before Graham married her.

[alienhost]

And speaking of Jack's daughter, did anyone else notice that Graham's son bears a striking resemblance to her? Hmmm, how close was Jack to his wife?

I agree, he does resemble Kim. They definitely alluded to a past connection b/w Marilyn and Jack and I'm very interested in finding out more.

I was also hoping Jack's father would be played by Donald Sutherland, that would have been cool.

[alienhost]

Question for you all, do you think they keep killing off the characters (Tony, Michelle, Curtis, David Palmer) because they don't want to have to pay them a lot of $$$$ to stay on the show? I'm guessing as the character gets more popular, they start demanding more $$$$.

I realize it is good for the show to mix up, get rid of the characters but I wonder how they decide and if $$$ is the big factor.

[Tanya]

And really, Jack vs. his brother? Gee, I'm not sure who I'd pick;).

[sheartm7]

And really, Jack vs. his brother? Gee, I'm not sure who I'd pick;).
LOL, yah that's a tough one.

[emschwar]

And really, Jack vs. his brother? Gee, I'm not sure who I'd pick;).

Especially since his brother looks like a weenie.

[JamBray]

And really, Jack vs. his brother? Gee, I'm not sure who I'd pick;).
LOL. I said the very same thing to DH last night. :)

[phoenics]

I LOVED last night's show... the Graham thing totally threw me for a loop - can't believe the guy in on the whole logan conspiracy is Jack's BROTHER!

I wonder if this means Jack's dad is up to no good?

And I love Sandra Palmer - I think that she can be annoying when she starts off about rights and such, but being that she's an African American character - if she DIDN'T say something about people possibly losnig rights, I wouldn't believe her character at all - at least they are being honest about this - anyone losing rights is a slippery slope as she said... and considering the history of this country with people's rights (minority people), well, she isn't that far off, lol. I'm glad to see her.

Finally, a strong black woman on the show who isn't psycho or a baddie. I was beginning to wonder.

Still mourning Curtis though...

[jesseybell]

I remembered reading that Jack's father was an actor we had heard of but I couldn't remember who so I asked DH 'Who is playing his dad again?' and with such a straight face he was like 'Donald Sutherland' but we both knew that wasn't true.
I thought his brother was going to be Rick Shroeder or Chad Lowe since they look more like him.

I am glad they didn't just let Dr Romano fall of the face of the Earth. I was pissed at the end of the season when everything went down and the Dr Romano character was just left out there.

[Michelle]

I remembered reading that Jack's father was an actor we had heard of but I couldn't remember who so I asked DH 'Who is playing his dad again?' and with such a straight face he was like 'Donald Sutherland' but we both knew that wasn't true.

I'm pretty sure the actor playing Jack's father is one who played George on Six Feet Under.

[sem426]

James Cromwell is playing Jack's father.

[Sophia]

I'm pretty sure the actor playing Jack's father is one who played George on Six Feet Under.

Yes. His name is James Cromwell. He's also well known for his role as the farmer in Babe, The Gallant Pig.

[alienhost]

And really, Jack vs. his brother? Gee, I'm not sure who I'd pick;).

Yeah, Graham must totally feel inferior to Jack :D It made me thinking, maybe they are only 1/2 or step brothers or something and not really totally blood related, since Jack is so much hotter. ;)

Did I read somewhere that Rick Schroder is going to be on the show at some point - CTU agent or something, maybe to replace Curtis?

[JamBray]

Did I read somewhere that Rick Schroder is going to be on the show at some point - CTU agent or something, maybe to replace Curtis?
Yeah he's coming on the show, but I'm not sure of his role.

[emschwar]

Yes. His name is James Cromwell. He's also well known for his role as the farmer in Babe, The Gallant Pig.
That's who I'll always remember him as! As many times as I've seen that movie, whenever I see him in something else, I have to think "That'll do, pig."

Yeah, Graham must totally feel inferior to Jack :D It made me thinking, maybe they are only 1/2 or step brothers or something and not really totally blood related, since Jack is so much hotter. ;)
Well, we've all seen the movie "Twins" (although we might be ashamed to admit it). Maybe they've got something like that going on. ;) Jack got all the hottness, and Graham got shafted (and therefore turned evil....)

[sem426]

Yeah he's coming on the show, but I'm not sure of his role.

Ricky Schroeder is playing a CTU agent, so i'm assuming he'll be Jacks right hand man ala Curtis.

[Sophia]

That's who I'll always remember him as! As many times as I've seen that movie, whenever I see him in something else, I have to think "That'll do, pig."


After the previews for next week I turned to DH and said "That'll do, pig. That'll do." And then DH said "La la lala!" LMAO I love that movie!

[alienhost]

I decided to watch parts of last night's episode again. When Jack saw Graham's son, Josh, he definitely gave him a "look". I also suspect that Jack might be his father. Jack also gave Marilyn a look too. They must have had a thing going and his work or something caused her to move on and marry his pathetic brother.

emshwar Yeah "Twins" that could be it! :D Graham definitely got the bad end of the gene pool.

[Sophia]

I thought Graham's son looked just like him--same face shape. Hmmm I just don't see a resemblance to Jack at all. I guess it's possible. We already know he cheated on Terri with Nina, so I guess he could have cheated on her with this chick, too.

[emschwar]

After the previews for next week I turned to DH and said "That'll do, pig. That'll do." And then DH said "La la lala!" LMAO I love that movie!

Can I tell you how disturbing it was to watch LA Confidential? I kept thinking of Babe, and it just didn't mesh well!

[Tanya]

I thought Graham's son looked just like him--same face shape. Hmmm I just don't see a resemblance to Jack at all. I guess it's possible. We already know he cheated on Terri with Nina, so I guess he could have cheated on her with this chick, too.

I agree, I didn't see much of a resemblance. I did see him very obviously glare at Jack, so I wonder what he told his son.

The thing that bugs me about Sandra is it seems her only role (so far) is to complain to federal agents who won't do a darn thing about it except get snippy (has she not watched other seasons?;)) or to distract her brother from the nuclear threat. She's not actually doing anything or getting results and it's as if they wrote her in to fill time. Unfortunately, there's a lot of that with a show that's 24 hour eps per season. I hope soon she makes something happen (without bugging her bro too much:)) as she makes excellent points (kind of a counter to Tom, the pres's assistant).

I'll admit I'm annoyed to get character thrown at us this far in to the story, such as Sandra (surely they would have let us know David had a sister way back when) and Jack's bro and father. I know that's unrealistic given the nature of the show, but I'm still annoyed. Like on the Cosby show when Sondra didn't really exist til the 2nd season.

[phoenics]

The thing that bugs me about Sandra is it seems her only role (so far) is to complain to federal agents who won't do a darn thing about it except get snippy (has she not watched other seasons?;)) or to distract her brother from the nuclear threat. She's not actually doing anything or getting results and it's as if they wrote her in to fill time. Unfortunately, there's a lot of that with a show that's 24 hour eps per season. I hope soon she makes something happen (without bugging her bro too much:)) as she makes excellent points (kind of a counter to Tom, the pres's assistant).

So true - her timing is all off - but she doesn't know she's on 24, lol! She doesn't know she's only got like - what? - 20 hours left!!

I guess I relate to her because I get where she's coming from - it's just that she can't see past her constant vigil and battle to protect human rights for the big picture of protecting human life - she and Tom would be better served moving more towards the middle.

When she was complaining about giving the message from her boyfriend (can't remember his name - but I know the actor) to the FBI and he told her to stop being a lawyer for one minute, I felt that. She was so busy trying to protect abstract 'rights' that she didn't understand how time-sensitive the information would be and that it needed to be acted upon NOT to put someone in jail, but to SAVE people. It was like she just didn't see the difference until he sniped at her.

I think Wayne Palmer would be so much better served if he had her working WITH him and if she SAW what it's really like and the battles that he's facing on a MINUTE-by-MINUTE basis. The best way to use her is right next to her brother... she isn't getting the big picture where she sits - so all she can do is cling to her stance on protecting human rights on principle.

On principle, of course I agree with her - on 24, she's a frustrating plot device, lol - but at least she's a GOOD one - and not crazy.


Like on the Cosby show when Sondra didn't really exist til the 2nd season.

Touche!

[alienhost]

I thought Graham's son looked just like him--same face shape. Hmmm I just don't see a resemblance to Jack at all. I guess it's possible. We already know he cheated on Terri with Nina, so I guess he could have cheated on her with this chick, too.

Josh does look similar to Graham but as PPs mentioned Josh looks a lot like Kim Bauer, that's why I suspect Jack might be the father. Plus the look Jack gave Josh was like "crap you look like my daughter!" and then the look he gave Marilyn was "why didn't you tell me we had a son". I'm probably haluccinating but that's what I've come up with.

[phoenics]

Josh does look similar to Graham but as PPs mentioned Josh looks a lot like Kim Bauer, that's why I suspect Jack might be the father. Plus the look Jack gave Josh was like "crap you look like my daughter!" and then the look he gave Marilyn was "why didn't you tell me we had a son". I'm probably haluccinating but that's what I've come up with.

I think you could be right. Hope Josh is less annoying and stupid than Kim (so glad she's not around this season - yet).

[sheartm7]

I thought last night was just "eh". Not enough action or Jack in it for me. ;) How annoying is that Tom guy though? I can't believe Karen resigned.

[Sophia]

Yeah, I was shocked Karen resigned. It'll be nice to have her back at CTU. Tom is a tool.

I'm already really sick of the looks between Jack and his SIL. :rolleyes: And his bro is a jerk, but we already knew that (although apparently Daddy Bauer didn't). I see from the preview that Jack's going to go kick his ass again.

Actually, yeah, it was kind of a boring episode. I can't think of anything to say. Almost all the Jack Action was in the recap and the preview. Boooooo

[sem426]

Ditto- Boring episode. I guess every hour can't be filled w/bullets and explosions!

[alienhost]

ITA that the episode was a bit of a snoozer. And that whole Walid getting the crap kicked out of him seemed so unnecessary.

[jesseybell]

Yep, definitely not one of the most exciting episodes in 24 history.

[JamBray]

Agreed. Too boring and not enough Jack.

[mrs_pell]

Agreed...boring! Better not happen again! :p

[emschwar]

You can get a messenger bag just like Jack's on amazon!
http://www.amazon.com/Galaxy-Army-Navy-Heavyweight-Messenger/dp/B000IS2BGK/sr=11-1/qid=1170517545/ref=sr_11_1/102-1299037-3332117

[kugrrly]

oh my!

[mrs_pell]

MUCH better than last week's so far! :D I honestly felt a little bad for Jack while he was doing that to his brother...until Graem started confessing all the other stuff from last season! I'm pretty impressed Jack didn't kill him right then and there! :eek:

[kugrrly]

WOAH!!!!

What an episode!

[mrs_pell]

Ok...so Jack has one f'd up family!! :eek:

Next week is 2 hours! :)

[kugrrly]

Ok...so Jack has one f'd up family!!


he sure does!

[Sophia]

When Dad Bauer was done with Graem, DH said, all deadpan, "That'll do, pig. That'll do." LMAO

Oh, and I knew the pic was going to be of Morris.

[jesseybell]

At first I forgot that McCarthy said the engineer would need some persuading so when the picture of Morris came up, I thought he was in on it.

The torture scene was pretty intense.

Yeah, Jack's family is really f*ed up.

I am very excited for 2 hours next week. I seem to recall them doing another 2 hour night mid-season last year, but I thought it was in March.

[PinkMartini]

At first I forgot that McCarthy said the engineer would need some persuading so when the picture of Morris came up, I thought he was in on it.

So did I. I was like "Why would he fix the picture if he knows it's him?" :confused:

Wow, I had a feeling his dad was in on it...

[whos that girl]

I thought the dude who played Jacks brother gave a damn good performance last night.

[JamBray]

At first I forgot that McCarthy said the engineer would need some persuading so when the picture of Morris came up, I thought he was in on it.
So did I, and said to DH "Man CTU really sucks in their security measures since they keep hiring moles." :p

Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention last season, but I didn't realize that Jack's brother was in on the bomb that killed Michelle and injured Tony. When Jack heard that his face just looked so heartbroken, and I just wanted to give him a hug. ;)

I wasn't sure if the dad was in on it or not, but I was a little surprised he killed Graem.

[Sazoo]

Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention last season, but I didn't realize that Jack's brother was in on the bomb that killed Michelle and injured Tony. When Jack heard that his face just looked so heartbroken, and I just wanted to give him a hug. ;)Yeah, he was the guy pulling President Logan's strings, & they fleshed out Jack by killing Michelle & injuring Tony so that they could pin the blame on him for killing President Palmer. Although we didn't see much of him until mid season when we started to see his phone conversations with Logan, I got the impression that he was behind the whole thing that season.

[JamBray]

Yeah, he was the guy pulling President Logan's strings, & they fleshed out Jack by killing Michelle & injuring Tony so that they could pin the blame on him for killing President Palmer. Although we didn't see much of him until mid season when we started to see his phone conversations with Logan, I got the impression that he was behind the whole thing that season.
Well I remember all that, but I wasn't aware that he was behind everything, even though it makes perfect sense.

[alienhost]

I thought it was a great episode.

When Jack was threatening Graham and looked at his dad then stopped I said, "wow I guess he still "obeys" his dad."

What bugged me was if is brother was involved in the Palmer/Michelle/Tony thing why didn't Jack think that his dad may have been involved? It just seemed logical to me. As soon as the dad went in the room alone I said to DH, "Grahem is a gonner for sure".

[Sophia]

2 hours tonight!

[GoCougs]

2 hours tonight!

Oh, that's right! It starts at 8:00 pm, right?

[Sophia]

8/7central :)

The previews look pretty good.

[Sophia]

OMG, Jack Bauer is afraid of lap dogs (http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/celebrity/Kiefer+s+dog+fears-13754.html).

[mrs_pell]

That's hilarious!! Kiefer is a weird dude - destroying his action dog, attacking a christmas tree, and afraid of tiny dogs! :D

[skyblu]

Holy crap, tonight was intense! My heart was pumping!

The chick who plays Jack's SIL has the acting skills of a 2x4, but other than that, wooooo!

[sheartm7]

I thought the scene with Jack diffusing the bomb was INTENSE, even though he's diffused like 10 other bombs before, they did a good job with his hands shaking, etc.

I find the whole Tom Lennox storyline annoying.

[emschwar]

Jack's SIL is a 2x4, and an idiot! I couldn't believe she didn't tell Jack the truth.

And, dude, when did they decide that trusting Jack's dad was a good idea?

[chefker]

The chick who plays Jack's SIL has the acting skills of a 2x4, but other than that, wooooo!

I remember her best as playing Lois on General Hospital (she was waay better in that role), so last night I was yelling at the TV "LOIS, JUST TELL JACK ABOUT HIS DAD!" DH was going "huh?" ;)

Yeah, I can't figure out why they (CTU) think Jack's dad is trustworthy, while Graem was not--you'd think they'd be super suspicious of Jack's dad BECAUSE of what Graem admitted to doing!

I felt so bad for Morris. A freaking DRILL? Ow. And the 'tough love' from Chloe, how typical of her --"Get your shirt back on and get back to work, stop feeling sorry for yourself!" She's just so warm and fuzzy. :rolleyes:

[sem426]

I remember her best as playing Lois on General Hospital (she was waay better in that role), so last night I was yelling at the TV "LOIS, JUST TELL JACK ABOUT HIS DAD!" DH was going "huh?" ;)



LOL. i said to DH...she used to be on a soap....she's not SUPPOSED to be a good actor!

[KaliLily]

And, dude, when did they decide that trusting Jack's dad was a good idea?

When Graem tried to kill him. Though him killing the guy that Jack had already disarmed should have clued them in that he didn't want the guy talking! :rolleyes:

[GoCougs]

I find the whole Tom Lennox storyline annoying.


I keep waiting from him to hear Barry White in his head, dance around and flush his toilet by remote-control like he did on Ally McBeal. He's not meant to be taken seriously!

[jesseybell]

Peter McNichol is driving DH batty - makes me miss Ally McBeal. I am interested to see where this storyline is going.

Chad and Rob Lowe have much more similar facial features and voice than I ever knew before, but Chad Lowe just doesn't do it for me like Rob did way back in the day pre-Democratic Convention (though he still looks good in his *gasp* 40s).

Now that we got to see the son more last night, he really does look like Kim - at least the eyes. But the timeline didn't seem right for him to be Jack's - the wife (Mrs. General Hospital and Melrose Place herself) seemed to make it sound like Jack disappeared 20 years ago and that's when she moved on the Graem, and the kid is younger than that.

[JamBray]

The scene with the drill was awful! Poor Morris! And I couldn't believe when Rita shot McCarthy! Did not see that coming.

Yeah, the woman who plays Jack's SIL needs some acting lessons, and what an idiot for not telling him that was his dad on the phone.
I keep waiting from him to hear Barry White in his head, dance around and flush his toilet by remote-control like he did on Ally McBeal.
LOL! I keep calling him "The Biscuit". ;)

[emschwar]

LOL! I keep calling him "The Biscuit". ;)

DH does too! There's been a lot of "Bad Biscuit!" coming from him. (Which of course, I always have to follow up with "Bad dog, no Biscuit!" But that's cause I'm a wiseass.)

[skyblu]

Chad and Rob Lowe have much more similar facial features and voice than I ever knew before, but Chad Lowe just doesn't do it for me like Rob did way back in the day pre-Democratic Convention (though he still looks good in his *gasp* 40s)

You know, it hit me all of a sudden, they must be related! I had no idea! When I think Chad Lowe I usually think Hillary Swank, and that's it. But I was watching 24 and thought "This guy (Chad Lowe) reminds me of Rob Lowe", then I realized they have the same last name, so they may be brothers.

Yes, it's a slow process to get things through my brain sometimes! :o

[jesseybell]

LOL! I keep calling him "The Biscuit". ;)

I totally forgot they called him that.

I will admit that show did get me into listening to Barry White.

[Secret_Squirrel]

Nobody has comments after seeing a scruffy Logan back?

I loved last night's episode. Graham's wife is so useless. First, she can't run away while the CTU guy (forget his name) covers her, THEN she has Jack's gun and just leaves him with his dad?

And that scene with Jack apologizing for not being a better son before his dad offs him was twisted.

Morris has a lot of body hair.

For a nuke going off in Valencia, LA is so normal.

[skyblu]

Can someone recap last nioght? My stupid DVR crapped out...:(

[jesseybell]

I knew Logan was coming back, I just didn't know when. I can't wait to see if his wife and Aaron are shown too.

I thought it was funny when he said 'CTU knows where I am' - looks to me that he is in the same compound he was last season....um, Jack knows where that is.

I really wish Jack's dad has flown over the edge.

[PinkMartini]

I knew Logan was coming back, I just didn't know when. I can't wait to see if his wife and Aaron are shown too.

For some reason I have a feeling at least his wife is going to be. In the previews for next week it showed him looking at a picture of her and someone (the president?) saying "I think he wants something" or something like that... I hope Aaron is, I really liked him.

I'm guessing nobody knows the story behind Logan right now? How does CTU know where he is? And how does he know where the Russian is? :confused:

[sem426]

Mrs Logan is definitely coming back,not sure when. Jean Smart the actress that plays her was part of a big interview the cast did w/Larry King before the season started and she said the the former prez and she would be back.

did anyone else notice that the # Jack was supposed to call wasn't the usualy "555" that they always use for tv and movies? I'm a big dork and decided to call the # and it said something like "Nextel 24 line".

[JamBray]

I was really surprised to see Logan, as I thought he was in jail. Wonder how/why he's out?

I had a feeling that Jack's dad was going to take off while Jack was kneeling down (either that or kill himself), but did he leave the phone outside or ???
Graham's wife is so useless. First, she can't run away while the CTU guy (forget his name) covers her, THEN she has Jack's gun and just leaves him with his dad?

I know! Add that to the fact that she's a bad actress, I wished she'd gotten shot and killed off the show.

I wonder what's going to happen to Tom and if the President will really be assassinated?

[sem426]

I wonder what's going to happen to Tom and if the President will really be assassinated?

I really hope Wayne doesn't get killed.....that would be 2 presidents that get assassinated from the same family..it's like the kennedys.

[LauraPerg]

Mrs Logan is definitely coming back,not sure when. Jean Smart the actress that plays her was part of a big interview the cast did w/Larry King before the season started and she said the the former prez and she would be back.

did anyone else notice that the # Jack was supposed to call wasn't the usualy "555" that they always use for tv and movies? I'm a big dork and decided to call the # and it said something like "Nextel 24 line".

I called that # too, it was pretty strange, there was some spanish I couldn't understand and then "nextel 24 hotline" or something. Very weird! :D

[emschwar]

I think they've done that in past seasons too - put real phone numbers up and have them be 24 related.

[sem426]

just bumping up for tonight.

let's see what ex prez logan has in store for jack!

[sheartm7]

what did everyone think?

[Sophia]

Incredibly boring.

[sheartm7]

I thought the same thing. Not enough action or Jack for me.

[emschwar]

Hey, at least we finally know that CTU people DO use the bathroom.

[sem426]

i actually fell asleep...the first time that's ever happened while watching 24.
zzzzzzzzzzzz

[jesseybell]

I also fell asleep....this season just isn't doing it for me.

[BSBC]

I fell asleep within the first 20 minutes. Get on with the story - this episode was awful

[Secret_Squirrel]

The only thing that sticks out for me is that for a guy who just got his shoulder drilled with a power tool, Morris didn't even flinch when he reached for the faucet to wash his hands. He doesn't flinch for anything.

Either he's a super-stud or a big wimp for giving in so early. I haven't decided.

And next week - now Jack is torturing Russian diplomats in their own embassy? He is going to end up in Siberean Gulag at the end of this season, no doubt!

[emschwar]

You'd think Jack would have learned not to screw around in the foreign Consulates from the Chinese.

[Tanya]

The best part of this episode was Dave Barry's Blog.
Chloe still loves Morris because he did not metabolize his alcohol. (Chloe can tell, just by looking at you, what you have metabolized.)

The Walid-and-Sandra subplot has completely disappeared, which is fine with me. If the writers try to bring it back, I think the other characters should say to them, "Get out of here! You never had anything to do with the plot anyway!"
UPDATE: "We're not cold-blooded murderers." Who WRITES this stuff?

UPDATE: Morris specificed the wrong slot assignment for the SIP adapter! If I had a nickel for every time I did that...

UPDATE: The Morris subplot is getting so repetitive that they have to be setting us up for a shockeroo, right? Like he's a mole? Or he's the one who reinvented the bra?

UPDATE: YES! Chloe is NOT afraid to yank a man off the toilet.

UPDATE: Morris didn't wipe.

[Tanya]

This (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/19/AR2007021901099.html?referrer=email)is an interesting article.

[sem426]

Tanya- Those quotes from Dave Barry are hilarious.

[Tanya]

When the heck did Morris have time for this so-called "long conversation" with his AA sponsor? Chloe, you're disappointing me.

[KaliLily]

You'd think Jack would have learned not to screw around in the foreign Consulates from the Chinese.

Same thing crossed my mind when I saw the preview for next week.

Oh Jack....Do you really want to end up in Siberia?

[JamBray]

Just meh for me. I think the most interesting part was when the bomb exploded. They're focusing way too much time on Morris and his drinking/not drinking, and it's getting irritating. Tony's alcoholism wasn't even focused on this much. :rolleyes:

[emschwar]

Was the bomb supposed to drip, or was that a mistake on the bomb-maker's part?

[KaliLily]

Tony's alcoholism wasn't even focused on this much. :rolleyes:

Tony was an alcoholic? (Guess that goes to show is wasn't a focal point. ;) )

[Sazoo]

Was the bomb supposed to drip, or was that a mistake on the bomb-maker's part?I assumed it was a mistake.

Tony was an alcoholic? (Guess that goes to show is wasn't a focal point. ;) )I think Tony was drinking a lot after Michelle left him, a couple of seasons back. He was pretty messed up when Jack went to his house to get his help on the current day's crisis, but within a few "hours" he seemed just fine & I don't recall them mentioning it again. *shrug*

[KaliLily]

I think Tony was drinking a lot after Michelle left him, a couple of seasons back. He was pretty messed up when Jack went to his house to get his help on the current day's crisis, but within a few "hours" he seemed just fine & I don't recall them mentioning it again. *shrug*

Oh yeah! :)

[sem426]

Yet another sub par episode IMO.

At least next week looks better...some action, Ricky Schroder and the return of Martha (Mrs Logan) and Aaron (Secret Service guy)!

[GoCougs]

Seriously, who knew Jack Bauer could be so frickin' stupid? I mean, didn't he just get released out of Chinese custody hours ago after being held for screwing with their consulate? And now he did the exact same thing! At least last time he covered his face....

[Secret_Squirrel]

I thought Jack went too far by maiming the Russian diplomat. There was a lamp nearby, he didn't have to resort to barbaric finger-chopping. Makes us look bad.

[emschwar]

I liked this from Dave's blog last night:
UPDATE: If somebody cut off my pinky, I would be pretty much lying on the floor going, "He cut off my pinky! HE CUT OFF MY PINKY!!" Which I suppose is a big reason why I am not the Russian consul.

[JamBray]

I thought it was a slightly better episode than the last ones have been, but I can't believe that Jack went into another consulate! And the finger chopping? YIKES!

[mrs_pell]

I'm behind, but I just had to say I'm loving Rick Shroeder, Martha and Aaron!! Even though there's not much Jack, I'm perfectly happy tonight with seeing all of them! :)

[mrs_pell]

:eek: Holy crap about Martha!!! TOTALLY wasn't expecting that!! I actually thought she was going to cut herself when she went over to the counter and started chopping up the food! The chick's got some anger in her!! :eek:

[KaliLily]

:eek: Holy crap about Martha!!! TOTALLY wasn't expecting that!! I actually thought she was going to cut herself when she went over to the counter and started chopping up the food!

Me too!

I <heart> Ricky Schroder. :D

[kugrrly]

glad to see a good episode tonight.

not enough Jack for me though. :)

[Sophia]

Hating Rick Schroeder. I hope they off him quickly.

Totally saw the stabbing coming--she couldn't have made it any more obvious what with all the kiwi-chopping. :rolleyes:

A pretty disappointing episode.

And if they keep raising the stakes every season this way, I predict we'll eventually be at war with other planets.

[GoCougs]

And if they keep raising the stakes every season this way, I predict we'll eventually be at war with other planets.

LOL! And when did Ricky Schroeder age about 20 years?? That boy's looking rough!

[sheartm7]

I'm so over the VP. I think he was in on trying to off Wayne.

Def not enough Jack!

[skyblu]

I know Martha had problems last season, but man, she's totally off her rocker now! Why is Aaron with her again? Geez!

sheartm, I also think that the VP was in on the assassination attempt. Because a corrupt Chad Lowe is not exciting enough for 24. We need a super-high-up-on-the-political-food-chain bad guy! :D

Originally Posted by Sophia
And if they keep raising the stakes every season this way, I predict we'll eventually be at war with other planets.

LMAO!!

[jesseybell]

All the time on the ranch definitely has aged Rick Shroeder (though I think I read that he wants to go by Ricky again).

I couldn't quite figure out if Aaron and Martha have a romantic relationship or he's just there as a companion. He seems to have lost a ton of weight(though as DH pointed out, this is really the first time we've seen him out of a suit so he could always have been thin but it was just hidden).

I knew something was coming with all the kiwi cutting, but I wasn't quite expecting that.

Definitely not enough Jack!

[sem426]

i thought the episode was just ok. better than the last 2, but not great.
not enough jack.

so based on the preview for next week, is there yet another mole at CTU? or is there someone in washington that leaked information? i was confused.

i'm liking ricky (yes, he wants to be called ricky again!) schroeder. during some slow spots i kept singing the silver spoons song:) . DH was not happy w/me!

[Tanya]

Ok, Ricky and weasel-man (I refuse to learn his name) need to go, quickly. this about sums it up for me, from Dave Barry:
UPDATE: Hi everybody at CTU! Here's a new character you never heard of! He's now in charge of everything!


Martha has taken a new turn in her looniness. It seems she is imagining a relationship with Aaron, and he's really just her keeper. Hmm.
UPDATE: I'm sorry, but you can't just bring in the ex-president and his ex-wife solely so you can spruce up two very dull episodes with one lousy stabbing that really has nothing to do with the plot and wasn't much of a surprise. No, wait, apparently you can.


The VPs on this show aren't very nice. And really, another mole? Come on.

[GoCougs]

Martha has taken a new turn in her looniness. It seems she is imagining a relationship with Aaron, and he's really just her keeper. Hmm.

Interesting point!

[JamBray]

I thought the episode was good, and definitely didn't see Martha stabbing Logan (although DH called it), and I certainly didn't think he'd die.

Not enough Jack for me either. Remember the good old days when he was in just about every scene? *sigh* ;)
LOL! And when did Ricky Schroeder age about 20 years?? That boy's looking rough!
I was thinking the same thing and said a few times to DH "Man, he looks old!"
Martha has taken a new turn in her looniness. It seems she is imagining a relationship with Aaron, and he's really just her keeper. Hmm.

The VPs on this show aren't very nice. And really, another mole? Come on.
Interesting theory about Martha, but it does seem the more reasonable belief.

I know. If it is another mole, CTU really needs to do something about their hiring process. :p

[sem426]

still not a great episode IMO.

audrey- do we think she's REALLY dead? I could have sworn i read somewhere that she would be back this season for a few episodes?

ricky schroeder- so did he set up nadia? is he the real mole?

the VP- is on my last nerve...argh will someone please step up and stop his ridiculous need to bomb them.

so what happened w/marth and prez logan...they weren't even in it last night?

i find myself making fun of 24 more than i usually do! last nigth when jack was steering the plane/bomb out of SF all i could think was that it looked like he was playing old school Atari:rolleyes:

[emschwar]

I think audrey's really dead. Those crash scene photos looked a lot like her.

And I agree about the VP! He just wants to bomb someone, and is looking for an excuse. How did Prez Palmer end up with a VP that nuke-happy?

[sheartm7]

The VP is a psycho. So sick of him.

I also wondered what happened with Logan - did he die or what?

Chloe cracked me up when she kissed Morris. Couldn't she have said something cute to him when he asked what that was for? :p

[Neen]

Couldn't she have said something cute to him when he asked what that was for?

But then that wouldn't have been Chloe!!!

[GoCougs]

I was actually relieved when last night's episode was over. This show's really losing it for me...all of the plot lines are recycled; it seems to have lost its originality. I dunno; maybe I was just in a really cranky mood because of my 103-degree temperature!

[JamBray]

Okay, so how did Marilyn know that Jack was talking about Audrey? I mean I know she said she read it in the papers, but c'mon! That was just a little too far-fetched for me. :rolleyes:

DH said that he didn't think Audrey was killed, but I think she is.

I agree that the VP is crazy and needs to go. Hopefully Wayne will wake up to stop his psycho ass.

[skyblu]

Okay, so how did Marilyn know that Jack was talking about Audrey? I mean I know she said she read it in the papers, but c'mon! That was just a little too far-fetched for me. :rolleyes:


JamBray, of this whole show, that's what seems a little far fetched to you? ;)

I also thought perhaps Audrey is not dead (you never know on this show), but FH think they're setting up the search for Audrey's killers as the plot for Day 7.

The VP is really grinding my nerves. And how come nobody but Karen has any issue with a nuclear war? In Pres. Palmer's cabinet? (Why does this plot line sound familiar? Oh, wait, I know. "If they have weapons of mass destruction, we'll bomb them" "No, sir, they don't seem to have any." "Well, let's bomb them anyway" - *ducking away from flamethrowers* )

[emschwar]

I also thought perhaps Audrey is not dead (you never know on this show), but FH think they're setting up the search for Audrey's killers as the plot for Day 7.
you mean the show might actually be somewhere other than LA? No way!

The VP is really grinding my nerves. And how come nobody but Karen has any issue with a nuclear war? In Pres. Palmer's cabinet? (Why does this plot line sound familiar? Oh, wait, I know. "If they have weapons of mass destruction, we'll bomb them" "No, sir, they don't seem to have any." "Well, let's bomb them anyway" - *ducking from flamethrowers* )
I know! Sure, we haven't seen a whole lot of palmer's politics, but he seems fairly liberal (maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part), and aside from Karen, his whole cabinet AND his VP are totally nuke happy conservatives. :confused:

[skyblu]

you mean the show might actually be somewhere other than LA? No way!


I know! And the show would focus on something other than imminent chaos and destruction of the entire country? Naaaaah.

[JamBray]

JamBray, of this whole show, that's what seems a little far fetched to you? ;)

I know, I know, :p but in all the ridiculousness of this season (which I can suspend my disbelief on for most of it) I think this was just my breaking point. She hasn't seen/heard from Jack in what, 20 years, but she somehow knows that Audrey was the woman he was referring to? Seriously? See how it irks me? :p

[skyblu]

What? Nothing about last night yet?

How about the fact that we got through an ENTIRE hour without anyone being tortured? Yay! ;)

I was cheering when Palmer woke up. That VP is evil! (and he has HORRIBLE makeup. We just watched in HD for the first time last night and it was so distracting!)

[jesseybell]

It is getting harder and harder to watch it every week....though I keep on doing it.

[skyblu]

I agree. Now would be a good time to wrap up the series.

[Sophia]

It's gone from silly to ridiculous to absurd. Still, I'm pretty hard up for comedy so I keep watching. The looney VP is a hoot.

[jesseybell]

And the thing is we still have 9 hours, so they are going to go off on some other complete storyline before the end of this season.

Yeah, unless they can really shake things up, it is time to be done. It just hasn't been the same without Palmer, Tony and Michelle.

[sem426]

I agree with everyone. I think it's time to call it quits with this show.

when what's his name kissed nadia i wanted to barf. ick.

even chloe can't help this show anymore. I miss edgar.

[Sophia]

Milo & Nadia are pathetic Tony & Michelle wannabes.

I don't think I could ever miss Edgar.

[sem426]

I don't think I could ever miss Edgar.

LOL! i miss him in that annoying he grows on you kinda way:)

[Sophia]

He was too annoying for me and I was glad when they killed him off. They really milked it, though, which also got annoying. And Dave Barry keeps milking it in hi