TTC with Charting in October - Hoping October Brings us our Own Future Pumpkins!

[Charting is Knowledge]

IT'S OCTOBER! - BRING ON THE TRICK-OR-TREATERS ... AND THE BFP'S!!!!

TTCers of ConstantChatter:
Charting Our Course to the BFPs

http://www.ripleysorlando.com/images2/fertilitystatues.jpg
The fertility statues are known to work for some who rub them around the time of possible conception.
It is said that the baby is the most potent part of the statue.

So rub away! :D It's worth a shot!


Who we are:
This is a group of women using charting (temperatures, CM, CP, OPK/FM results, or a combination of these) to try to conceive and, along the way, are learning a heckuvalot about their own bodies! Many of us use a software program to keep track of our charts as well as allowing us to share them with each other. The most common ones are FertitlityFriend.com and Ovusoft.com.

Your threadmistresses for this thread are Chris n Jen and RobynScott.

To our members:
This thread gets very busy at times, so in order to keep things less overwhelming and a bit more organized, we start a new thread every month. A link to the new thread is always posted at the end of the current thread to help everyone find their way over. The threadmistresses would really appreciate it if everyone would post their updates in Red. That way, if we get a bit behind, it is much quicker to get the thread up-to-date.

Link to the Previous Thread (http://www.constantchatter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24344)


KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!

Want to join the fun??
We welcome one and all. It doesn’t matter if you have never charted before or if you’ve been charting to avoid. I am sure you will find lots of help and support in this group.

If you would like to join, CD1 is the time to do it! That way, we can cheer you on
throughout your cycle, rather than 2 days before you test! :cool:

Please don't be discouraged by the number of posts in this thread. You don’t have to read the whole thread to join. Feel free to just jump in on the last page. Just read through these first couple of posts and post a reply with the following information and we will get you added right away. Of course, none of this info is a must but we like to know a little bit about one another.


CC Name:
Me: name/age
DH: name/age
Married since: date
Off BCP since: date
TTC since: date
Charting since: date
Known issues/test results:
Chart: link
Current status: waiting to O, What the bleep .., testing...

How to link a chart from Fertility Friend:
Go to My Chart. In the Menu bar on the right hand side go down to sharing- then home page setup, the link will appear in a text box under the heading "Your Charting Home Page Web Address." Highlight the link and copy it to your signature or a post.

[Charting is Knowledge]

- Member ETF Status -

Think I O'ed - Testing 10/30 - 11/5
BrownEyedGirl (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f1117), ceaserbride (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/161ed0), DianeCourt (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/803ac), kuklaki (http://forums.ovusoft.com/chart.asp?id=kuklaki1)

Think I O'ed - Testing 11/6 - 11/12
cat_loverpq (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/da20b), CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas), Jess71903 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10d126), jessied1025 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/c57c3), missy329 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2b4de)

Folliculating:
Waiting to O (aka - Boring Part of the Cycle)
2 Crazy Pugs (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/168fad), ABirney (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrsabirney), ADSigMel (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/9fd5e), Alioop12345 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1d0d2), Amuse Bouche (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/44b75), Applebee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/98534), aprilbride2002 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6f09b), chelsea524 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1914c), ChicagoKate (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/c31c5), cowgirl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f3285), Deanna1018 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=gabbie1018), filmgirl7 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/13fa13), FSUSammy (http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=fsusammy), granada (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/97800), honeygirl (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ee424), j*east (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/132a93), jrbnj, Kanga 1622 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28596), katiems118 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/142cc1), kris97 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/12de87), Lilone (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/149d51), Loud_curly (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/15c628), melandtim (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/11d965), Mrs Pell (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/11fb25), Mrs.R (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/118b70), numberlady (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/4bd13), polkadot (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d), Pootle (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/11075d), RobynScott (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1095fc), SweetRed (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/128004), teacher_jessica (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/13251d), Tealynn (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/114180)

Stagnating:
What the *bleep* is going on?!?!
DelSol (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf64a)

Chart not Updated -- Waiting for an update:
bumble, byrd's boogie, Cath2005, Janu98, jokerkitty (http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=jokerkitty), Lilo, motray36 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/MyFFChart), RoJo, Smittenk (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=smitten)

Taking a Charting Break/Temporarily TTA:
Charliezangel (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/c97d2), Jnshanna (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cafa6), Pocahontas (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/12430d), polarama (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=polarama), pride&prejudice,
Ptcrn (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bed5d), SQ2 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=sq2), Stevesbabygirl (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=stevesbabygirl), TazLuv (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e80b5)

Tributatoring:
Proud Cheerleaders!
armadillo (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f25aa), MrsJackson05 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e581e), T3h_wookie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/25336)

Percolating:
Expecting Mommies!

BFP's in October: (2)
Cosmogirl (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/690b7), Gymwidow (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/813ab), magrat (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/70df2), Risa00 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/risa00)

BFP's in September: (6)
Steve's Sweety (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/16f08), Jjsanner (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/24f94), magrat (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/70df2), foxyboo751 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/112db6), LILRTL (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/14df72), Polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d)

BFP's in August: (1)
PugLover (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/25e5a)

BFPs in July: (5)
MarriedaGoalie (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/147815), miaclear (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/122ae9), MrsKinnison (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/89c6c), Sherb, sneak (http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=sneak)

BFPs in June: (10)
Felicity (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/db809), fsb2005 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10ac41), jenjen0713 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/794c9), JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf), KristieB (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/df6e5), LDS Angel 19 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/64d1c), lilhimley (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/131d02), MrsHill (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrshill), phillytiger (http://www.tcoyf.com/chart.asp?id=lege), Sebski (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/8302a)

BFPs in May: (3)
Indiana Bride (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1d936), lattee22 (http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=lattee22), Tealynn (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/114180)

BFPs in April: (5)
Deanna1018 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=gabbie1018), giry76 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/781ab), Harmony96 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/d1b58), Kimmer (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/106fea), Marteneym (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fa78)

BFPs in March: (9)
ausi2b (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f7062), BethIrish (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/105e49), Delaney21 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e9d11), Ilovemygeek (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bec65), Mayham (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/be39e), neenbean (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/66982), Roberta (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10827a), RubberSoul (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/118cd2), Sare79 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/fe765)

BFP’s in February: (10)
Bunnybeth (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e5de5), Dlj78 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=dlj78), Ellidew (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/78d2a), jeant ( http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/5ef37), Jenzen01 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/41226), Lilla (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2c0b6), MichelleRenee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e174a), mimieliza (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/b84ec), Quartercentury (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3313f), Sinclair319

BFP’s in January: (12)
Adam's Pi (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/95990), Dionysia (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/fdec3), Hula1974 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/905ef), jbemommy ( http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1064ba), Katmg (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/89994), lawgirl4 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/a6770), Lily (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/447e7), MSH, Polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d), octoberkate (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f8c44), Spencer's_Girl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6f9cc), suiej (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10159a)



Please advise if we are off-target with your ETF (Estimated Test-Fest) or other status, or just need a good old-fashioned Ovary Shout!

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Our mommies!

BFP's in December: (8)
Abby's Mom, ajlanden (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2fdee), Aletheia (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a0c60), Dotsie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e00ca), jeggink (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c595), Mrs. M. (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1a234), Sabriel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c), UTChick (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf25d)

BFP's in November: (7)
Almostthere, Ellebelle (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2f8f5), Jesseybell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cd4f1), Lindybug (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99db2), Linnybubbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2330), mkvh (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99502), mrst2b2003

BFPs in October: (19)...We Broke the Record for most BFP's in One Month!!!!
amurphy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a5e06), Bottleored (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/44b0a), BunnyBeth (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e5de5), Calla Lily (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b025d), Ds2003 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ds2003), flygirl, Gardenia (http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=gardeniacc), jbenny75 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/803b1), Kaeden's Mommy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bcdb2), Lizard (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/af125), Mystikal (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/RaeK622), nuhmah (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/d72dc), Ryan (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3f12b), SarahnCraig (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c1846), Shouldaeloped (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/63d7a), Soulmate (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Soulmate), Klav (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21291), ShelbyMay (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/67c07), Wrighty26 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/beb7b)

BFPs in September: (3)
Baby Lust (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Shanes_Angel), Lowcountrywed (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c4aeb), Sabriel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c)

BFPs in August: (11)
Akachan93 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/229b9), Crazycaro (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21ac6), Guinness (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=10&id=guinness&tc=0&p=), jeeplover (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/721bb), Indiana Bride (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1d936), LittleStar (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c204a), Mel7dog (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ca05d), Missy329 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2b4de), MMHinCA (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c14c1), Sinclair319 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/sinclair319), Stumbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b1333), Uskiku (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cdfb0)

BFPs in July: (10)
Elenitsa (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=13&id=elenitsa&tc=0&p=), Heidi0622 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/549f8), Jane&Andy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c455f), Kopper (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/9e5e6), MrsCantDecide (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59e5b), Red_Canuck, Sevilla, ShannonGH (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ShannonGH), Tracie (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/a18c8), Tunibell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59461)

BFPs in June: (2)
Christy5599, Lovin'it

[Charting is Knowledge]

Our Members:

2 Crazy Pugs (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/168fad)
Me: T - 35
DH: M- 33
Married since: 6/30/06
Off BCP since: 2 1/2 years
TTC since: Oct 2006
Charting since: Oct 2006
Known issues/test results: None yet

ABirney (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrsabirney)
Me: Angie, 31
DH: Scott, 30
Married since: Sept 25, 2004
Off BC since: Dec '04
TTC since: Sept '05
Charting since: Dec 20 '04
Known issues: possible PCOS, starting Metformin 5/4/06

Adam's Pi (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/95990)
Me: 25
DH: 28
Married since: June 29, 2002
DS: June 25, 2004
Off BCP since: October 2002
TTC since: December 2005
Charting since: December 2005 (but we charted when we TTC DS)
Known issues/test results: This is my first known cycle since giving birth to my DS--I BF'ed him and didn't have a PP AF for 17.5 months....I'm still figuring out what my body is up to

ADSigMel (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/9fd5e)
Me: Melody/23
DH: Ali/26
Married since: 11/19/05
Off BCP since: 03/04
TTC since: 06/06
Charting since: 03/05
Known issues/test results: Long cycles, frequent annovulatory cycles

Alioop12345 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1d0d2)
Me: Alioop12345 (33)
DH: Aron
DS: Jacob (02/03/04)
TTC #2 since: 5/05
Known issues/test results: Seeking help from RE using Gonal F, progesterone, estrodial, and HcG...probably going to use Viagra next cycle

Amuse Bouche (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/44b75)
Me: AB/28
DH: DH/27
Married since: 3/1/03
Off BCP since: I don't know -- sometime in '04 or '05
TTC since: 10/10/06
Charting since: 3/06, irregularly
Known issues/test results: LP on the short side

Applebee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/98534)
Me: Lori Ann
DH: Ted
Married since: 4.4.03
Charting since: since Feb '05
Known issues/test results: Day3 Test all ok, DH's SA ok, but will have another one done. Motility on the low side

aprilbride2002 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/6f09b)
Me: Sondra/31
DH: Michael/32 soon to be 33
DS: Hayden (12/8/05)
Married since: 4/20/02
Off BCP since: 10/06
TTC since: 10/06
Charting since: 10/06
Known issues/test results: none

BrownEyedGirl (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f1117)
Me: 27
DH: 31
Married since: 11/29/03
Off BCP since: Mother's Day 2006
TTC since: August 2006
Charting since: June 2006
Known issues/test results: Hashimotos Thyroiditis, Endometriosis, Irregular cycles

byrd's boogie
me~boogie/32
dh~byrd/33
married~05.05.05
children~stepson and furbaby
off bc since June 05
known issues~miscarriage 08/05, fibroids removed via myomectomy 02.24.06

Bumble
DH: 33
Married since: 8.2003
TTC since: 4.2005
Charting since: 1.2005
Known issues/test results: miscarriage 6.2005 (8 weeks)

Cath2005
Me: Cath, 26
DH: M, 28
Married since: 2005
Off BCP since: July 14, 2006
TTC since: July/August 2006
Charting since: July 17, 2006

cat_loverpq (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/da20b)
Me: 25
DH: 37
Married since: 6/5/04
Off BCP since: February 2005
TTC since: August 2006
Charting since: February 2005
Known issues/test results: hypothyroidism and irregular cycles

ceaserbride (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/161ed0)
Me: Tasha/23
DH: Jason/23
Married since: August 5th 2006
Off BCPatch since: May 5th 2006
TTC since: August 5th 2006
Charting since: September 28th 2006
Known issues/test results: None


Charliezangel (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/c97d2)
Me: Emily 23
DH: Daniel 31
Married since: 5-22-05
Off BCP since: 11-23-05
TTC since: 1-6-06
Charting since: 1-17-06

chelsea524 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1914c)
Me: Chelsea (23)
DH: Jonathan (34)
Married since: 9/4/02
Off BCP since: IUD out on 5/5/06
TTC since: 5/5/06
Charting since: 6/06
Known issues/test results:none

ChicagoKate (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/c31c5)
Me: Kate, 31
DH: Chris, 33
Married since: 11.12.05
Off BCP since: 12.29.05
TTC since: 12.29.05
Charting since: 12.29.05
Known issues/test results: had a CP on cycle 2, took cycle 3 off from charting temps

cowgirl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f3285)
Me: 29
DH: 33
Married since: 6/14/2003
TTC since: 6/14/2004
Charting since: 10/24/2005
Known issues/test results:

CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas)
Me: MMT age 34
DH: CT age 37
Married: 11/04
Off BCP: 12/04
TTC since: 01/05
Known issues/test results: diagnosed with premature ovarian failure 4/06
4/6 Lap - shows open tubes, small bit of endo lasered off
7/06 - 10/06 - Ovarian Cyst, IUI cancelled
8/06 - Present - Acupuncture
10/06 - IUI on 10/27 & 28

DelSol (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf64a)
Me: Dana (32)
DH: Scott (38)
Married: November 19, 2004
Last BCP: August 2005
TTC since: August 2006
Charting since: May 2006
Known issues/test results: None

DianeCourt (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/803ac)
Me: 29
DH: 31
Married since: 9/14/02
Off BCP since: 10/1/06
TTC since: 10/1/06
Charting since: 10/06
Known issues/test results: None

filmgirl7 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/13fa13)
Me: Carrie, 28
DH: J, 33
Married since: 1/7/06
Off BCP since: years!
TTC since: 9/06
Charting since: 6/06
Known issues/test results: only known issue is a nervous husband

FSUSammy (http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=fsusammy)
Me: Samantha/27
DH: Gary/30
Married since: 9/18/04
Off BCP since: 11/05
TTC since: 7/06
Charting since: 11/05
Known issues/test results: Long cycles, sometimes anovulatory

granada (Chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/97800)
Me: M, 31
DH: D, 35
Married since: 8/04
Off BCP since: 1/05
TTC since: 9/06
Charting since: 1/05
Known issues/test results: none known


honeygirl (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ee424)
Me: Anne
DH: wonderful
Married since: 2003
Off BC since: August 2005
TTC since: May 2006
Charting since: August 2005
Known issues: LPD, infertility - unsp, starting Clomid next cycle

j*east (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/132a93)
Me: J, 32
DH: T, 31
Married since: July 2004
Off BCP since: April 1, 2006
TTC since: May 2006
Charting since: June 1, 2006
Known issues/test results: Endometriosis, should conceive ASAP

Janu98
Me: Mona/27
DH: Abdullah/30
Married since: Sept 4, 2004
Off BCP since: Nov/05
TTC and Charting since: Nov/05
Known issues/test results: none

Jess71903 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10d126)
Me: Jessica (27) - December 10
DH: Tony (26)
Married: July 19, 2003
Last BCP: Date August 21, 2005
TTC since: Aug 2005
Charting since Jan 3, 2006
Known Issues/test results:
SA March (?) '06- all good
CD 21 b/w April (?) '06- progesterone 20-normal
laparoscopy 8/21/06 showing blocked left tube
put on Prometrum CD 14-24 to reduce spotting pre-AF
SWH for a couple of months before moving on to Clomid and/or IUI

jessied1025 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/c57c3)
Me: Jessie (28)
DH: Jim (29)
Married since: Oct. 25, 2003
Off BC since: July 2005
TTC Since: Sept/Oct 2005
Charting Since: Nov 2005
Known Issues: None

Jnshanna (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cafa6)
Me: Shanna/30
DH: Jose/31
Married since: 10/01/94
Off BCP since: Haven't been on BCP for many years.
TTC since: July 2005
Charting since: 8/07/05
Known issues/test results: DH - 6/06 Zero Sperm Count, Low Testosterone (started Clomid to increase level). Me - Annovulatory Cycles, Irregular O when I do.

jokerkitty (http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=jokerkitty)
Me: Bree 32
DH: Stephen 36
Married since:02/22/02
Off BCP since: 2001
TTC since: Ooops!
Charting since: 03/2003
Known issues/test results:mc 11/2005

jrbnj
Me: Jen/30
DH: SB/29 (will be 30 next month)
DS: CB 12/3/05
Married since: 10/19/02
Off BCP since: 8/06
TTC since: 9/06
Charting since: October 2006
Current status: waiting to O

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Members continued...

Kanga 1622 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28596)
Me: 26
DH: 28
Married since: 8/31/02
Off BCP since: 7/03
TTC since: 02/06
Charting since: 07/03
Known issues/test results: None

katiems118 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/142cc1)
Me: Katie 26
DH: Eric 30
Married since: 5/20/06
Off BCP since: 6/1/06
TTC since: 6/06
Charting since: 6/06
Known issues/test results: none

kris97 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/12de87)
Me: Kristin, 31
DH: Ryan, 31
Married since: 5/2/4
TTC since: 4/06
Charting since: 5/06
Known issues/test results

kuklaki (http://forums.ovusoft.com/chart.asp?id=kuklaki1)
Me: Angela/28
DH: Leo/26
Married since: 1-22-2005
Off BCP since: 2000...crazy stuff too
TTC since: 08/2006
Charting since: 7/2006
Known issues/test results: unknown

LDS Angel 19 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/64d1c)
Me: Michelle, 23
DH: Aaron, 23
Married since: Sept 4th 2004
Angel: Allison Grace, born and died June 17 2005
Off BCP since: Never on BCP
TTC (again) since: August 2005
Charting since: Charted August, took September off, and now starting again.
Known issues/test results: None at this time

Lilo
Married since: 2002
Off BCP since: late 2004?
TTC since: January 2006
Charting since: November 2004
Known issues/test results: None
Chart: no link at the moment

Lilone (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/149d51)
Me: Edie, 26
DH: D, 28
Married since: April 22, 2006
Off BC since: April 2006
TTC since: April 2006
Charting since: August 2006
Known issues: none

Loud_curly (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/15c628)
Me: L/31
DH: A/30
Married since: 5/28/00
Off BCP since: 6/06
TTC since: 7/06
Charting since: 9/06
Known issues/test results: none
Chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/15c628

melandtim (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/11d965)
Me: Mel, 29
DH: Tim, 43
Married since: October 23, 2004
Off BCP since: January 06
TTC since: May 06
Charting since: January 06
Known issues/test results: don't O every month or O very late, infertility bloodwork was fine, waiting on DH's SA

missy329 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2b4de)
Me: Lisa 37
DH: Jim 39
DD: Katie 4/16/04
DD: Maggie 4/28/06
Married since: May 17, 2003
Off BCP since: July 2006
TTC since: July 2006
Charting since: August 2006
Known issues/test results: none

motray36 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/MyFFChart)
Me: Tracy (26)
DH: Keith (26)
Married since: 6-25-04
Off BCP since: 9-04
TTC since: 7-06
Charting since: 9-04

Mrs Pell (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/11fb25)
Me: Cori, age 28
DH: Mark, age 35
Married since: July 12, 2003
Off BCP since: July, 2003
TTC since: "Seeing what happens" for about a year...just now actively trying
Charting since: Feb 28, 2006
Known issues/test results: none

MrsR (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/118b70)
Me: Jessica/32
DH: Matt/33
Married since: October 18, 2003
Off BCP since: June 2005
TTC since: June 2005
Charting since: February 2006
Known issues/test results: None

numberlady (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/4bd13)
Me: Kelby
DH: Steven
Married since: May 19, 2002
Off BCP since: April 2004
TTC since: July 2006
Charting since: April 2004
Known issues/test results: m/c in February @ 7w


Pocahontas (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/12430d)
ME: 35
DH: 33
Married: Sept. 3, 2005
TTC and Charting since: 12/05
Known issues: Fibroids

polarama
Me: Jenn, 30
DH: Chris, 30
Married since: 7/27/2002
Off BCP since: November, 2005
TTC since: November, 2005
Charting since: December, 2005
Known issues/test results: Possible PCOS, but never confirmed.

polkadot (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d)
Me: lauren, 27
DH:brian, 28
Married since: 11-20-04
Off BCP since: 5-05
TTC since: 5-05
Charting since: 3-05
Known issues/test results: ovulatory problems, 2 chem pg's Jan 06 & Sept 06

Pootle (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/11075d)
Me: 27
DH: 27
Married since: 12/31/2005
Off BCP since: 1/23/06
TTC since: 6/1/06
Charting since: 1/23/06
Known issues/test results:None that I know of

pride&prejudice
Me: Rosie/27
DH: Gary/27
Married since: 5.28.05
Off BCP since: 4.23.06
TTC since: hopefully July!
Charting since: starting next cycle
Known issues/test results: none
Current status: waiting for DH to be off methotrexate for 3 months

Ptcrn (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bed5d)
Me: Jen/30
DH: Gerry/30
Married since: July 30th 2005
Off BCP since: August 14th 2005
TTC and Charting since: August 14th 2005
Known issues/test results: none

Purplesunshine7
Me:
DH:
Married since: 4/5/03
Off BCP since:
TTC since: 7/05
Known issues/test results: m/c 6/2/05

Risa00 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/risa00)
Me: Lisa/28
DH: Sean/35
Married since: 2003
Off BCP since: 2/06
TTC since: 6/06
Charting since: 6/06

RobynScott (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1095fc)
Me: Robyn, 29
DH: Scott, 31
Married since: 8/29/04
TTC since: July 2006
Charting since: August 2006

RoJo
Me: 32
DH: 32
Married since: 8/02
Off BCP since: 2002
TTC since: June 2005 (some months not TTC)
Charting since: June 2005
Known issues/test results: No known fertility issues

Sebski (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/8302a)
Me: 29
DH: 31
DS: 6 months
Married since: Oct 2002
TTC since: May 2006
Charting since: March 2005
Known issues/test results: High FSH level confirmed May 2006

Smittenk (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=smitten)
Me: Alison/28
DH: Mike/37 on April 12!
Married since: April 03 2004
Off BCP since: Oct 2005
TTC since: Now
Charting since: Oct 2005
Known issues/test results:mild displaysia

SQ2 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=sq2)
Me: SQ2/28
DH: 28
Married since: August 2004
Off BCP since: November 2005
TTC since: August 2006
Charting since: November 2005
Known issues/test results: None


Stevesbabygirl (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=stevesbabygirl)
Me: Heather, 27
DH: Steve, 28
Married since: August 31, 2003
Off BCP since: February 2006
TTC since: waiting for CD1
Charting since: February 2006
Known issues/test results: Endometriosis

Sumike
Me: Eva/31
DH: Tristam/33
Married since: July 21, 2004
Off BCP since: May 2005
TTC since: September 2006
Charting since: October 2006
Known issues/test results: none

SweetRed (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/128004)
Me: 33
DH: 38
Married since: 7/2005
Off BCP since: 3/2006
TTC since: This month???
Charting since: 3/2006
Known issues/test results: Very irregular periods pre-BCP

TazLuv (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e80b5)
Me: CM/29
DH: BM/29
Married since: July 2002
Off BCP since: June 2005
TTC since: Aug 2005
Charting since: 9/23/05
Known issues/test results: Loooooooong cycles

teacher_jessica (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/13251d)
Me: Jessica/29
DH: Brad/32
Married since: 7/23/2005
Off BCP since: About 3 years ago
TTC since: April 2006
Charting since: April 2006
Known issues/test results: N/A

Tealynn (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/114180)
Me: Teresa/35
DH: Phil/41
Married since: Sept 2003
Off BCP since: years
TTC since: For over a year but just a couple of months w/ TCOYF
Charting since: May 2006
Known issues: no known issues

[Charting is Knowledge]

Things I Have Learned About TTC
by WC's Sherylb

* TTC is a journey. You will discover things about yourself that you never expected. You will face fears you never thought you had. You will find joy in little things.

* TTC can bring you closer to your DH, or it can pull you apart. If your marriage is not solid, you will find out quickly.

* No one understands exactly what you are feeling at any given moment, but someone can empathize at least a little bit.

* You will experience an emotional roller coaster ride. There will be highs and lows and fast moments and slow. Sometimes you have to wait in a very, very slow moving line. You may not even get the seat you want. It is not always fun, it can be scary, but in the end it is worth it.

* "Just relax" is the last thing in the world you want to hear from someone, but it is OK if you say it about yourself.

* There will be moments when you question your own decision to start TTC. You will wonder if you should wait or if you should just give up. Those are normal. But you will get past those feelings.

* The blue and green turtle likes to pop its head out! You will hear of someone's pregnancy and turn green with envy and blue inside because it isn't you.

* It isn't fair, it isn't easy, and it isn't pretty. But you keep doing it because the reward is worth it.

* You will be your best friend and your worst enemy. Your body will
surprise you and yet disappoint you.

* Some women do get lucky and conceive right away. Others aren't so lucky and have to struggle to get there. Hope you will be in the first category, but prepare yourself to be in the second.

* Once you decide to TTC, there will be babies and pregnant women everywhere! You could swear there is a baby boom going on!

* You will have questions. No one will ever be in exactly your position, so don't be surprised when no one can give you exactly the answer you are looking for. But there are people that can contribute, so don't be afraid to ask!

* Two lines on a pregnancy test is not the end of the struggle. Pregnancy has lots of struggles in and of itself.

[Charting is Knowledge]

HPT sensitivity chart

These numbers might come in handy when shopping for HPTs.
The lower the amount of mIU measured, the more sensitive the test is!

AimStick Pregnancy Test Strip 20 mIU
AccuHome Midstream Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Pregnancy Test (Cup) 25 mIU
Clearblue +/- 25 mIU
Clearblue Digital 25 mIU
Confirm 1-Step Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Dollar Store Brand Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Equate Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
First Response Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
One Step Be Sure Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Precise Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Quickview Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Walgreen Digital 25 mIU
e.p.t. Home Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
Fact Plus Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
CVS Cartridge Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
CVS Midstream Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Drug Emporium Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. + / - Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. Certainty Digital Test 50 mIU
early Pregnancy test 50 mIU
RiteAid Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Target Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
WalMart Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Walgreens Pregnancy Test 100 mIU

[Charting is Knowledge]

- Common TTC abbreviations

This is a list of some of the more common TTC abbreviations. I know as a newcomer to the TTC threads, it can be hard to keep them all straight. I hope these will help, and if anyone has any they would like added, please let me know!


•2WW: "2 week wait" - The approximate time from possible conception to menstruation due date; Pregnancy tests should be taken near the end of the 2WW.
•AF: "Aunt Flo"; Your period; Menstruation
•AFNW: "Aunt Flo Not Wanted"; the day your period is expected to start, but you are hoping it doesn't!
•AO: anovulatory (cycle without ovulation)
•BBs: "boobs"; breasts
•BBL: "be back later"
•BBT: Basal Body Thermometer; This is used to measure your basal body temperature, when you wake up in the morning, after at least 3 hours of sleep, before you start to move around; Use a special BBT thermometer to take your temperature because they measure the small changes in temperature from day to day more accurately than the regular fever thermometers.
•BCP: Birth control pills
•BD'ing: "baby dancing"; baby-making intercourse
•BFN: "Big Fat Neutral" or “Big Fat Negative”; Negative pregnancy test.
•BF'ing: breast-feeding
•BRB: "be right back"
•CD: cycle day; a particular day in your menstrual cycle (example: CD1 is the first day of your period)
•CL: Cover Line; a visual tool used to separate the low (pre-ovulatory) temps from high (post-ovulatory) temps; a coverline is typically based on the temperatures 6 days prior to ovulation.
•CM: cervical mucous; one of the most useful clues your body can give you in predicting your fertility; it can range from dry, creamy, sticky, or (the most fertile) egg white/watery type.
•CF: cervical fluid; same as cervical mucus
•CP: cervical position; an optional, but sometimes really useful, fertility sign; CP will generally be low, firm and closed before and after ovulation, and high, soft and open during your fertile time.
•DD: "dear daughter"
•DH: "dear husband"
•DS: "dear son"
•DPO: Days Past Ovulation; number of days from your post-ovulatory temperature rise. (Example: 1DPO is the day after your ovulation)
•Endo: endometriosis (can be a fertility problem)
•EDC and EDD: estimated date of confinement (antiquated, but still used by physicians) and estimated date of delivery
•EPT: a brand of pregnancy test, or, generic for "early pregnancy test"
•EW or EWCM: egg white cervical mucus; the most fertile quality CM; it is slippery, clear and stretchy, like egg whites; also EWCF
•FAM: Fertility Awareness Method; the method of fertility and/or birth control that correlates the physical changes you experience during your cycle to predict when you are most fertile
•FF: Fertility Friend, an online (free, for basic services) fertility charting site (website); (could also be formula feeding; check context)
•FM: fertility monitor
•FMU: first morning urine
•FP: follicular phase; the phase before ovulation, where the egg matures in the ovaries
•FRED: First Response Early Detection (pregnancy test)
•HCG: human chorionic gonadotropin; the hormone that is present during pregnancy and what the HPT's and blood test measure to determine if you are pregnant
•HTH: "hope that helps"
•HPT: home pregnancy test; a urine pregnancy test you can take at home
•IMHO: "in my humble opinion"
•IMO: "in my opinion"
•IUI: intra-uterine insemination
•IVF: in vitro fertilization
•KU: knocked up
•LH: leutenizing hormone; the LH surge is what is measured by the OPKs; this hormone signals the egg to burst from the ovary
•LP: luteal phase; the phase of your cycle that begins just after ovulation and continues for 10-18 days, ending with the start of your next period; during the LP, your body continues to build up the lining of your uterus, and produce hormones which would support a pregnancy; this is the time when a fertilized egg can implant into the uterine lining
MBFP Mystery big fat positive- When you see a BFP in someone’s chart but they haven’t announced it yet
•NFP: Natural Family Planning; similar to FAM, but with abstinence during the fertile period
•O, Oing, Oed: ovulation, ovulating, or ovulated
•OPK: ovulation predictor kit; tests for presence of LH surge that usually precedes ovulation by 12-48 hours; these tests are quite expensive and not always accurate (if you take medication or depending on your age); these are optional when charting with FF, but if your fertility data is not clear it can bring more light and help interpret difficult cases
•OS: Ovusoft; charting software based on TCOYF
•PCOS: polycystic ovarian syndrome (a fertility problem)
•PG: pregnant
•PIAC: pee in a cup
•POAS: pee on a stick
•RE: reproductive endocrinologist
•SA: semen analysis
•SH: "sweet husband"
•SO: "significant other"
•SYS, SYL : See ya soon! or See ya later!
•TCOYF: Taking Charge Of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler; a book and website about charting and fertility.
•TMI: "too much information" - There is no such thing when TTC!
•TTA: "trying to avoid"
•TTC: "trying to conceive"
•TTFN: "ta-ta for now"
•TTYL, TTYS: "talk to you later" or "talk to you soon"

[Charting is Knowledge]

Resources borrowed from Still At It:

Abbreviations and acronyms
List of TTC & IF acronyms written out (http://womens-place.com/ttc/ttcacronyms.php)

HPT Sensitivity Comparison Charts
Fertility Plus (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hpt.html)
Pee On A Stick (http://www.peeonastick.com/hpts.html)
Mama's Ark (http://www.mamasark.com/hpt.htm)
Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com/pregnancy-test-sensitivity.html)
Remember, the hCG starts at 1 at implantation and increases as time goes on, so the smaller amount of hCG it measures, the more sensitive the test is!

Books
Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler, MPH (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060937645/qid=1041654042/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

The Fertility Sourcebook by M. Sara Rosenthal, PHD (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0737303808/qid=1042220393/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)

Inconceivable by Ben Elton (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385334656/qid=1041659461/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)
The movie "Maybe Baby" (below) is based on this book

Inconceivable: A Woman's Triumph Over Despair and Statistics
by Julia Indichova (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0767908201/qid=1059292613/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

The Infertility Diet: Get Pregnant & Prevent Miscarriage by Fern Reiss (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1893290395/qid=1059292976/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

Conquering Infertility: Dr. Domar's Mind/Body Guide to Enhancing
Fertility & Coping with Infertility by Alice Domar, Phd (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0670031550/qid=1059293116/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/103-2812959-1358247)


Girlfriend to Girlfriend: A Fertility Companion by Kristen Magnacca (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1588202135/qid=1082306449/sr=8-2/ref=pd_ka_2/104-9895052-8814318?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

Movies
Maybe Baby (2001) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000062XKW/qid=1041654127/sr=8-4/ref=sr_8_4/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=video&n=507846)

She's Having A Baby (1988) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6300988996/qid%3D1041654195/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-0287896-1655948)

Websites (by subject)

Charting
Ovusoft aka TCOYF (http://www.ovusoft.com/)
The site for Toni Weschler's book which includes message boards, chat and cycle galleries which are very helpful.

Fertility Friend (www.fertilityfriend.com)
A free charting site which includes a lot of information and cycle galleries.

Local Support
RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/chapters/resolvenearyou.jsp?name=chapters)
Nation-wide referrals to local support groups and therapists.

The American Infertility Association (http://www.americaninfertility.org)
Lots of information and support, including message boards and chat rooms.

Financial Concerns
ARC: Advanced Reproductive Care (http://www.arcfertility.com/)
information on financing infertility treatments

Family Fee Plan (http://www.amerifee.com/fertility-financing/index.asp)
information on financing infertility treatments

State Insurance Requirements (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/advocacy/insurance/index.jsp?name=advocacy&tag=insurance)
Links from the Resolve site about insurance & laws.

Inciid's Insurance pages (http://www.inciid.org/index.php)
Click through menu on right for more financial topics and the insurance forum.

General TTC
Trying To Conceive.com (http://www.tryingtoconceive.com/)
All things TTC! Lots of info as well as a place to buy herbal therapies for
conceiving.

Baby Med (http://www.babymed.com/)
Tons of information. Everything from Chinese gender charts to an FAQ section on pretty much any TTC question you could have.

Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com)
Baby makin' supplies!

OBGYN.net (http://www.obgyn.net/)
Lots of general info on women's health. They also have doctors on line who
answer questions.

Infertility Sites
INCIID (http://www.inciid.org/)
Pronounced "inside". (The International Council on Infertility Information Dissemination)
Excellent national resource.

Resolve (http://www.resolve.org)
Wonderful site with lots of infertility information and support.

I dream of baby (http://www.idreamofbaby.com/fertility.php)
Learn the basics of fertility issues here. This site also has a great message
board community!

Fertility Plus.org’s list of female hormone levels (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hormonelevels.html#female)
Starting your fertility work-up? Check out this site to see a list of the
commonly tested female hormone levels, the function of each hormone, and the normal levels of each hormone.

Shared Journey (http://www.sharedjourney.com)
Shared Journey is dedicated to providing quality information on topics such as
infertility, miscarriage, surrogacy, pregnancy after infertility, living
child-free, and adoption. Our information is supplied by well noted Reproductive
Endocrinologist's, Psychologists, Adoption professionals and links through
various sites.

FertileHeart (http://www.fertileheart.com)
A community of people exploring holistic approaches to fertility. A site by
author Julia Indichova (see books above)

Specific IF Issues
Soul Cysters (http://www.soulcysters.com)
PCOS site with lots of support and info

Dr. Beer (http://www.repro-med.net)
Reproductive Immunology information, including lists of tests, pricing, local referrals

Reproductive Immunology Support (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/immunologysupport/)
Yahoo group for RI patients, tons of info and articles

Info for Family and Friends
Empty Arms (http://www.vocalicious.com/empty_arms/empty_arms_mod.html)
This is a great video so they can understand what you're going through. (And get out your kleenex!)

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:R0b7BClF9FJiVM:http://www.babies-born.co.uk/images/graphics/012702baby11.jpg


Post away!!!!

[honeygirl]

Yay a new thread and a brand new month!

Threadmistress please change my info to:
Known issues: LPD, infertility - unsp, starting Clomid next cycle

I'm looking forward to checking in tomorrow morning to see if any wonderful BFP's have appeared. Good luck ladies!

I'm still waiting to O. I've been drinking grapefruit juice and I think it is working. It seems like about 30-45min after I drink it more CM appears! Amazing. Now if we could just do some BD. :rolleyes: The DH and I haven't been friends for the last few days. We made up this evening so hopefully we'll get some action in before he leaves on his trip (monday am).

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to Here!

Honeygirl - You are fast! I didn't think anyone else was awake at this hour!

[honeygirl]

Sorry, I am up late. DH is watching a boring movie so I'm keeping busy with CC. ;) You're up late too!

[RobynScott]

Sorry, I am up late. DH is watching a boring movie so I'm keeping busy with CC. ;) You're up late too!

No worries :) I am up late b/c I fell asleep on the sofa :rolleyes: and just woke up. DH must have collapsed upstairs or he would have gotten me. I promised Jen I would start the new thread tonight - so when I woke up on the sofa at 1 am, I was ike uh-oh- I'd better go start the October thread!

Is that dedication or what, *lol*?

As for me - they say it's not over till the horizontally challenged lady sings? Well, she may not be singing yet but she's warming up real loud and strong! :p

So - I just hope AF shows tomorrow instead of dragging it out with 6 days of spotting again. If she shows tomorrow - there's a small window of time that DH and I will be in the same location maybe 3 - 4 days of my potential O date - but really, who knows?

Oh well - November's not that far off, right? ;)

Hope we start this thread off with some nice BFP's!!!!!

SQ2 - can't wait to see you post tomorrow!

Good luck all!

- Robyn

[SQ2]

Good morning! I'm up bright and early. Unfortunately to a BFN, but I was totally prepared for that and I'm ok with it. I keep telling myself it's just too early. (I think next time I'm doing the digital. I hate starting and waiting for that second line to appear and then wondering if my eyes are playing tricks on me.) My temp jumped way up again so I think that's only a good sign and my boobs have been sore since a couple days ago (which they never do before AF). So, the waiting to test continues. I think I'll wait until Wednesday (15DPO) to test again.

[Jess71903]

Yay! Thanks for a new thread! October, here we come!

Sorry about the BFN, SQ2, but like you said, too early. Hang in there. You seem to have all the signs!

I am glad you and your DH are friends again, honeygirl...that's sorta necessary to make a baby ;). I hope you get the job done!

Robyn- it only takes once, or so they say!

me- Threadmistress, please move me to "I think I O'd, testing 10-13 (Friday the 13th *gasp* or so.

FF gives me dotted crosshairs because I am on that prometrium and it says that it could be causing my temp shift. I know it could, but I took it in the evening, and I got the first temp rise that morning, and with all my other signs, I know I O'd, so I am not worried about it. Gotta go get ready for church! You girls have a good Sunday!

[RobynScott]

SQ2 - sorry about the BFN. My temp didnt fall this morning as expected so I decided to test - but I also got an (expected) BFN. I expected it with all of my spotting but I wanted to confirm for myself that there was no chance I was PG and needed to get on prog. asap.

I hope your BFN turns into a BFP in a few days! As far as digitals - just remember that they may not be as sensitive. Yay for continued FPS!

Jess - yay for Oing!

Honeygirl - glad you and DH are friends again - I missed that part last night in my sleepy state!

Sorry for the bad punctuation - my firefox is doing weird things and wont let me use apostrphes!

Weird!

Have a great day all.

SQ2 - and any other Jewish charters - Have a good holiday and an easy fast!

[SQ2]

Robyn ~ Sorry about the BFN. :( Thanks for the holiday wishes. (I'm not fasting though. ;) )

ETA As far as digitals - just remember that they may not be as sensitive. I have some ClearBlue Digital tests. According to the list at the beginning of this thread it's one of the most sensitive tests. :confused:

[cat_loverpq]

Yay for a new thread!! :D

SQ2 and Robyn ~ Hope those turn into BFP's in the next couple days!

[Cosmogirl]

ETA I have some ClearBlue Digital tests. According to the list at the beginning of this thread it's one of the most sensitive tests. :confused:

I tested with this when I got PG with my first, and it was positive even before the 4 days sooner test. It is a really good and sensitive test. Might not be true with all digi though...:confused:
Sorry for the BFN though. Hoping it will change on wednesday!

Robyn sorry for the BFN too. Still crossing my fingers for you!

YAY for a new thread! Hoping October is a good month for us!:D

[RobynScott]

Thanks Cosmo, SQ2 and Cat Lover - - I think for at least one of us, the BFN will become a BFP ;) - but I won't say anymore so as not to jinx anything :)

Need to get showered and go to work - I was planning on going earlier but I decided to clean up first.

Remembered as I was cleaning up I had one glass of wine last night. Anybody know how much that could affect temp? Two weeks ago I had a lot more than one glass of wine ;) and had my lowest temp of the month the next day - but just wondering if that affected my temp this morning? (I don't think so - maybe it was my restless sleep?)

[Chris~n~Jen]

I promised Jen I would start the new thread tonight - so when I woke up on the sofa at 1 am, I was ike uh-oh- I'd better go start the October thread!
Wow!! What an awesome co-threadmistress you are! Thanks so much! :D

Good morning! I'm up bright and early. Unfortunately to a BFN.
So sorry about the BFN. Your signs do sound very promissing so I'm hoping it was just to early for you.

Remembered as I was cleaning up I had one glass of wine last night. Anybody know how much that could affect temp?
I think everyone's body reacts differently to alcohol. My temp isn't really affected by drinking, unless I'm drinking a lot. As in totally drunk can't hardly walk up the stairs by myself :o Then I might miss notice a bit of a temp rise. ;)

Me ~ Still frustrated. I thought for sure that I had O'd on CD17. Day 18's temp is up. I was so mad because I took my temp yesterday and then fell back asleep without reading it and when I woke up many hours later I found out the the stupid thing hadn't saved the temp. Then this morning my temp is pretty much the same as fridays. It hasn't gone up. :mad: So I have no idea what's going on. :(

[DelSol]

Good Luck to Everyone this Month!

SQ2 & Robyn ~ sorry about the BFN.

Jess71903 ~ yay for Oing.

Honeygirl ~ glad you and DH are friends again.

Thank you Threadmistress for the new thread!

Me ~ CD11 for me. I'm thinking about starting the BDing fest today. I'm going to watch the CM and see what happens.

[Loud_curly]

Robyn -That's some dedication, starting the thread in the middle of the night!! Sorry for the BFN - maybe you just need a few more days?

SQ2 - Also sorry for the BFN. Your chart still looks good - maybe you need a few more days as well?

Honeygirl - Yay that you and DH are friends again.

Jess - I'm right there with you on the 2 WW.

Me, my temp was up again and FF shifted my O date by a day, so I'm still on 3PO. I'm hoping that I'll know one way or the other by my birthday (Oct. 11). It'll either be a great birthday, or a good excuse to live it up!

And I'd love a treat this month - no tricks from AF ;)

[Cosmogirl]

QOTD: do you think that you can BD too much? Last cycles, we BD'ed a lot before O. I'm trying to BD less this time, maybe that could make a difference...When I got PG the first time, we had done it a couple of times the days before, and then the day before O, and O, and that was it. I guess it was really meant to be!:p

[RobynScott]

Loudcurly - my birthday is 10/14! Hope you have something to celebrate :)

Jen -I figured I had to make up for the time when it seemed like I disappeared ;)

cosmo - I don't know about the BD too much - it could affect how tired you are - and if you start too early you may be too tired to keep going when you really need to? Does that make sense?

Can't hurt to BD every other day.

Well - I'm at work now - let's see if I manage to get anything done :)

[FSUSammy]

SQ2 - Sorry abou the BFN. Your temps look great though, hopefully you'll get your BFP in a few more days.

[DelSol]

QOTD: do you think that you can BD too much? Last cycles, we BD'ed a lot before O. I'm trying to BD less this time, maybe that could make a difference...When I got PG the first time, we had done it a couple of times the days before, and then the day before O, and O, and that was it. I guess it was really meant to be!:p


Cosmogirl ~ check this website out, I was looking at the front page of our thread and clicked on this one. I noticed it to be on target for me but then again my O usually occurs between CD14 - CD16. BabyMed Fertility Calendar (http://babymed.com/fertility%2Dtools/calendar/)

I printed mine out and I’m going to show DH after I highlight the days we need to BD. :p

[pocahontas]

YAY for a new thread and a new month! (Ya know ladies...there is a record to be broken this month because if you check this month last year set the RECORD for the MOST BFPs! :D Can we beat it?) ;) Good luck to us all!

[Cosmogirl]

Robyn: yeah, well I was thinking something along those line. If you BD too much, can the spermies be affected and not as fertile when the times comes??

Delsol: OMGosh, thanks! That is one cool site. I love the "receipes" for boys and girls!:D According to this, the BD fest has started for me. And it has...:p :p

[SQ2]

If you BD too much, can the spermies be affected and not as fertile when the times comes?? TCOYF says that you should avoid BD everyday only if your DH has a low sperm count. Otherwise you should BD everyday you have fertile CM (i.e. creamy or EW).

ETA ~ You're still ok if you BD every other day with a regular sperm count because if you have fertile CM, the sperm will survive, it's just that it won't hurt anything to do it everyday if you want.

[honeygirl]

RE: BD frequency, I've read some good info here on CC about it. Threads in family planning I think? I'm too lazy to search them for you ladies, sorry. ;)

My doctor says that it doesn't hurt to BD everyday, but not to try if you have a L-O-N-G fertile phase (ie - unpredictable or long cycles) b/c you'll get tired. If you're tired and need lube, that can decrease the sperm mobility (traps them). So, he said every other day is just fine.

Hope you're all having a good sunday. I've got a busy week coming up, our kitchen re-model starts on thursday! My house will be a disaster, but oh-so worth it (I hope).

[sea74]

I guess I'm ready to join. And thank you again to everyone who helped me out last week. To update from yesterday, my temp shot WAY up this morning, it doesn't seem right, but it's what the BBT recorded. My spotting stopped and no period. Yet. Hmmm ...

CC Name: Sea74 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/160d6f)
Me: name/age: 32
DH: name/age: 36
Married since: date: November 2004
Off BCP since: date: June 2006
TTC since: date: Sept 2006
Charting since: Sept 2006
Known issues/test results:
Chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/160d6f
Current status:

[ADSigMel]

RobynScott - Thanks for starting the new thread! Sorry about the BFN. Are you going to test again if AF doesn't show soon? Like Jen, alcohol doesn't affect my temps very much, unless I reaaaallly overdo it.

honeygirl - Sorry about the BFN, but I agree that it might just be too early. Here's hoping your BFP shows up soon!

Jess - Your chart looks great...I hope you get your BFP next week!

Jen - Have you been sick this month or anything? Weird that your O would be so late. :confused:

DelSol - Good idea to start the BD'ing a bit early this month. With CM patterns as clear as your have been, I'd bet that O is just around the corner for you.

Loud curly - Yeah, I figured FF would change your O date. Your chart looks fantastic. I hope you get your BFP this cycle!

Cosmogirl - Like others, I think there's really no such thing as BD'ing too much unless your DH has a low sperm count. Wouldn't want him to run of bullets too early in the gunfight. But if he's got a normal sperm count, I would think that the more opportunities for catching the egg, the better.

sea74 - Welcome! I hope your stay is short and sweet.

Me - I'm on CD17, my temps are looking normal (not all over the place), and I've been seeing better quality CM than normal. Also, I might just be making this up in my head because I'm not used to it, but I think my OPK test lines are getting darker. So maybe I'll O some time in the near future? I'm hopeful. :)

Sorry if I missed anybody. Gosh, this thread moves so fast!

[ADSigMel]

Oh, and sea74, I looked at your chart, and it could be that the spotting was O spotting (and maybe it obscured some more fertile CM), so yesterday might actually have been your O date. I'd keep BD'ing for another day or two just in case.

[sea74]

I *just* started my period. I know for sure this time :(
I'm so bummed.

[ADSigMel]

Oh, I'm sorry. Are you coming off BCP, or are your cycles usually so short? To be honest, I don't see a very clear O on your chart. It looks sort of annov to me, and if what FF called really was your O, you might want to try magnesium and B12 or whatever it is that's supposed to lengthen your LP.

[sea74]

ADSigMel: I went off the pill a few months ago. I was on them for 6-7 years. Before I went on the pill, my cycles were 15-25 days long.

I don't think I did O, but rather had an annov cycle. That stresses me out. I do have a doctor apt w/my GYN later this month.

I've not heard about teh magnesium or B12, I'll have to look into it.

[mrs_pell]

Yeah for a new thread! Hopefully this Oct will be as "productive" as last October!

Honeygirl ~ I know it's not funny, but your comment about not being "friends" made me laugh...just a little. :o I'm glad you're friends again though so the BD can be more fun! It's NO FUN BDing when you're not "feeling it."

Robyn ~ Your chart looks great! Hopefully that BFN was just too early! Also, if I drink pretty much anything the night before, my temp shoots way up. And, it always seems to be that I do that around O time. :rolleyes:

SQ2 ~ Your chart looks fantastic too! Again, hope it was just too soon to test!

Jess ~ Yeah for O'ing! Hope you caught that eggie!

Chris~n~Jen ~ Sorry your temps are frustrating you!

DelSol ~ Have fun with the BDing!

Loud_Curly ~ Hope you caught that eggie! I think CD16 looks right, especially w/your CM. You definitely covered your bases!! Good luck!

Cosmogirl ~ I don't think it really matters it you BD "too much" unless there's a low sperm count. For us, I'd be thrilled if we ever made it to the "too much" anyway! ;) :rolleyes:

Sea74 ~ Welcome! And so sorry that AF showed. :(

ADSigMel ~ Good luck catching that eggie! Hope you O soon!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

As for me, we're going in for our appointment w/the new doctor in the morning. I just printed out all of my charts w/the exception of one that I didn't complete and this month's. It was funny b/c Mark was looking at them w/me and asked me what all the letters were for the CM. I told him he'd probably rather not know and he says, "fair enough..." I know the kinds of things that gross him out, and that's more than likely one of them. So, I tell him most everything but that. ;)

Hope everyone had a great weekend!

[mrs_pell]

DelSol ~ I just now looked at that Babymed.com site. The regular calendar is pretty nice, and I may actually print it out for DH so he'll have a better idea of timing. But, holy crap, those ones for trying for a girl or boy are hysterical! I honestly have never heard "doggy style for a boy" or worse, "no O'ing [for the woman, of course] for a girl!!" :eek:

:D

[granada]

Why shouldn't the woman orgasm when trying for a girl? :confused: I've heard this before and wasn't sure what the reason behind this is. I have not read Shettles, but I assume that's where this rule comes from?

Thanks, everyone, for the warm welcome!

SQ2 ~ Your chart looks really good. :D I'll be interested to see what you find out on Wednesday. :)

RobynScott ~ This is totally non-TTC related, but I was curious how your marathon went. I asked you this in the attorney thread, but the question probably got buried. :)

Me ~ I went grocery shopping yesterday and stocked up on grapefruit juice and green tea to take to work. My co-workers will probably think I am on some weird diet. It is a diet of sorts, but my goal is to gain weight, not lose. ;)

[ABirney]

Hey there, just checking in. sorry to those that got BFN's and AF. Good luck to those testing and O'ing soon.
Just got home from the in-laws for the weekend. I didn't temp this morning because the bedroom there gets so hot and stuffy my temp is always high there. (besides, I don't think it would matter much the way this cycle is going.) We had a good visit except MIL, DH's aunt and cousin and I went to visit DH's grandma and 2 aunts from out of town that were there for a wedding. Well the one aunt I haven't seen since our wedding 2 yrs ago. I walked in the house and she said "Oh my God, Vonnie (MIL) didn't tell me you were having a baby!!" Ummmm no that's because I'm not... (and thanks for reminding me that I'm fat and not pg yet!!!) Grrrrr. Oh well.

[numberlady]

Hey ladies. Sorry I have been MIA in this thread and on my chart. I was going to stay :cool: this month, but I seem to have taken it to extreme. I haven't temped this whole cycle, so I should really start in the AM if I am going to. DH and I are having a rough time and I'm not sure that we are even going to ttc this month, but I guess we better talk about it and get going soon if we are.

Sorry for those that got a bfn and good luck to those who have bd'ing and test fest coming up!

[melandtim]

Thanks everyone for the well wishes. I need to do some research on semen analysis results but they are only slightly abnormal so I don't think it will be too serious.

I have been majorly sick with a fever of 102 so my temps are srewy. I am just really going to toss this cycle. I doubt seriously I will be pg which with the fever is probably a good thing.

Threadmistress, please move me to "I think I O'd, testing 16-17

[kanga1622]

Subbing to the new thread. I think I'm running a fever again. That's the only problem working with college students have having a husband that works with preschoolers - we're always sick in the fall with all the new germs. I'm thinking this cycle may be annov since I've been sick twice now. I think I may have scared all my eggs into hiding with all these germs. :p

ABirney - I'm so sorry your family treated you that way. I do weigh a bit more now than I did when we got married, so I get that look every so often when seeing family I haven't seen in awhile. Sometimes you just want to smack people that have no tact. :rolleyes: Although DH does have a cousin that now has 3 kids. We didn't know she was pregnant with any of them until she was 8+ months along. They didn't feel the need to share that news with anyone - including her only aunt. :confused:

[filmgirl7]

Hey all,
I'm joining...here are my stats!

CC Name: filmgirl7
Me: Carrie, 28
DH: J, 33
Married since: 1/7/06
Off BCP since: years!
TTC since: 9/06
Charting since: 6/06
Known issues/test results: only known issue is a nervous husband
Chart: FF (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/13fa13)
Current status: O'd, testing 10/14/06

Our TTC status is kind of "iffy" at this stage. I started charting in June and my husband loves it! He thinks it's a game. :) This month I convinced him to BD when I was fertile since I'm a teacher and this would give us a due date of the last week of school. If not this month, we will try for next month, but then hold off until February, since Aug/Sept isn't a due date I'd want, and we have a big wedding next October, so that wouldn't be good either. What i'm trying to say is I REALLY hope it happens between now and thanksgiving, or i'll have to wait three agonizing months just to try again.

To that end, could anybody give their 2 cents on my chart this month. Specifically, I was playing with it and FF is going to move my O date to CD17 when I input tomorrow's temp, and that really upsets me because I think the huge temp jump on CD 16 indicates that ovulation already happened. I've heard CC'ers disagree with FF before. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance! I'm really excited to be here.

[cowgirl]

Please move me to waiting to O

[melandtim]

Welcome filmgirl!!!

Abirney - My mother did something similar to me and it really hurts. I gained 20 pounds after hip surgery earlier this year. I got pleurasy and had to take steroids. Her current barb is when she is talking about SO's daughter to say you know the one who is pg. I blew up at her and told her she does not have to say that all the time.

[mkvh]

Ducking in to help out filmgirl--FF is moving your CH because of the fertile CM you have after what it has pegged as O right now. I agree that you had a large temp jump on CD15/16, but I would tend to agree with FF on CD17 due to the CM and the fact that your subsequent temps were above your coverline. The coverline on your chart right now is WAAAY too low. Sorry that's not what you wanted to hear.

Me: Well, it's weird. I so wish I still had my copy of TCOYF to figure out what is normal at this stage of the game. I had ALL of the signs of O (fertile CM, high, soft cervix and then dryup and low, firm cervix) but no corresponding temps. Must have "geared up" to O and then didn't....

[DelSol]

DelSol ~ I just now looked at that Babymed.com site. The regular calendar is pretty nice, and I may actually print it out for DH so he'll have a better idea of timing. But, holy crap, those ones for trying for a girl or boy are hysterical! I honestly have never heard "doggy style for a boy" or worse, "no O'ing [for the woman, of course] for a girl!!" :eek:

:D

I know when I read that I was like "yikes, that's no way to make a baby." I have heard for boy you should BD on your O day but if you don't know your exact O day, what happens then? You pass up the opportunity for a baby, no thanks. I'll be happy with what I get.


Just wanted to post quickly, I have a new hire starting today and she beat me in the door when I told her Manager to tell her to be here at 9:30AM.

[ABirney]

Good morning everyone.
numberlady I hope you get your probs with DH figured out.
melandtim hope you feel better soon! That sucks about your mom rubbing that in all the time about the pg relative.
kanga I hope you're feeling better too! Strange about your cousin not telling anyone until so late.
filmgirl welcome!
cowgirl Sorry AF showed.
mkvh sorry about the no O... hopefully you do soon!

[Loud_curly]

Hope everyone had a great weekend!

Welcome filmgirl! Hope your stay is short!

melandtim and abirney - Don't you love supportive family :rolleyes: ? Both sets of parents live far away, so we only see them a few times a year. My Mom keeps thinking that I've gained weight, while my MIL keeps thinking I've lost weight. Go figure!

Granada - I tried grapefruit juice this month - we'll see what happens. I got the white grapefruit juice - ugh!! Ruby red is definitely better.

Mrs Pell - My husband is fascinated by the temperature graph, but doesn't need to know all of the abbreviations below. He thinks it's TMI, and just trusts me to tell him when it's time to BD.

Not much going on here - the weather in DC has been great the past few days (minus some rain). I love these days - chilly mornings and nights, comfortable days. I'm 4 DPO, although my temp did drop this morning. I'm not worried though, I'm sure I Oed last week, and since coming off BCP in June my cycles have been 28-30 days long. Now, my skin is a different story altogether - I didn't have acne this bad when I was a teenager!

[FSUSammy]

sea74 - Welcome!

ADSigMel - That's fantastic that it looks like your body might be close to Oing. Try to stay stress free in the upcoming week! Crossing my fingers for you that you finally O early.

mrs_pell - Good luck at the doc's. Let us know how that goes.

granada - Re: not having an orgasm when you are trying for a girl. It's because it helps pull the sperm closer to the cervix and typically you want the slower boy sperm to die off before they get there with the more acidic environment. I've been on a thread on babycenter.com where there are lots of girls trying to sway for a girl and doing some wacky stuff, most that I've seen recently are ending up with boys though no matter what they do. I have a feeling that you end up with what you are meant to end up with.

ABirney - Sorry about your visit. It sucks when people open their big fat mouths WAY too early. They should just figure out that you'll tell when you really ARE!!!!

filmgirl7 - Welcome, hope your stay here is short and sweet!

mkvh - It's definitely possible that your body geared up to O but didn't. Also, it can be possible that your temp won't shift for another day or so. Some people experience a delayed temp shift.

Me - I'm 7 DPO today. This is probably all FPS but here's what I've been experiencing. My boobs are definitely fuller than they usually are. Nipples are super sensitive. Not as bad as they were right after O, but still different. I have noticed them a tad darker too. I actually have felt sick to my stomach. Haven't thrown up or anything but I soooo don't feel like eating. Everything grosses me out. But I know I have to eat so I'm forcing myself (not fun). I am feeling a tad tired. I was cleaning our bathroom yesterday and by the time I got to cleaning our shower I was exhausted. Very odd for me. My UTI is finally under control. I took my last antibiotic yesterday. Oh and this is probably NOTHING but when I was driving to work today I had a VERY sharp pain on my lower right side. Felt similar to an O pain, was very quick. I hope October is a lucky month for all of us.

Sam

[cat_loverpq]

granada ~ That rule does come from Shettles (as well as "doggie-style for a boy"). Basically it's because the girl spermies are larger and slower than the boys, and when the woman has an orgasm the muscular contractions help to "propel" the sperm up into her body. Since the boys are already faster swimmers, you want to slow them down and give the girl sperm as much of a chance as possible to get to the egg first. The woman's O can also produce more EWCM secretions which helps the boy sperm. The longer the boy sperm stays in the acidic environment (prior to getting up into the cervix), the higher the chance they will die sooner. Since the girl sperm are bigger/hardier, they survive longer with less EWCM. That's why Shettles suggests shallow penetration for a girl as well. And just the opposite for doggie-style...that position allows for the deepest penetration and therefore gets the male's "tip" as close to the cervix as possible so it helps the boy sperm survive and get a head start on the girl. That's probably more than you wanted to know, huh? ;)

filmgirl ~ Welcome!

ABirney ~ That was so rude of your aunt! I'm sorry you had to deal with that.

[ceaserbride]

SQ2- Sorry about the bfn. Crossing my fingers that you get a BFP on Wed.

Robyn- Sorry about the bfn aswell:(

Jen- Sorry you have no idea what is going on with your temp. I have a feeling my first couple months are gunna be a little bit of a guessing game.

DelSol- Have fun with the BD fest!

Sea- Welcome!!! Sorry about AF.

Mrs. Pell- Good luck at your apt.

Granada-It is a diet of sorts, but my goal is to gain weight, not lose. Cute!

Filmgirl- Welcome and good luck!

Me: Not much..CD3 and just waiting for af to be over. So my after keeping track the last couple of months I realised my cycles are actually closer to around 32/33 days. Is it safe to assume that I will O around CD18/19??? or no?

[Cosmogirl]

Me - I'm 7 DPO today. This is probably all FPS but here's what I've been experiencing. My boobs are definitely fuller than they usually are. Nipples are super sensitive. Not as bad as they were right after O, but still different. I have noticed them a tad darker too. I actually have felt sick to my stomach. Haven't thrown up or anything but I soooo don't feel like eating. Everything grosses me out. But I know I have to eat so I'm forcing myself (not fun). I am feeling a tad tired. I was cleaning our bathroom yesterday and by the time I got to cleaning our shower I was exhausted. Very odd for me. My UTI is finally under control. I took my last antibiotic yesterday. Oh and this is probably NOTHING but when I was driving to work today I had a VERY sharp pain on my lower right side. Felt similar to an O pain, was very quick. I hope October is a lucky month for all of us.

Sam

Good luck to you for sure! These are So all preggo symptoms! Crossing fingers! When are you going to test?

Sea: welcome! Hoping for a short stay!

Filmgirl: welcome to you as well. Wishing you the same ;)

Abirney: Don't you just HATE somments like these. big hugs to you!!


Thanks to all of you ladies that answered my question. We are going to try to BD a little less before,(every 2 days) and concentrate our efforts to the days around O. We'll see if that helps...A change cannot not be good I guess;)

sorry to those that AF has found, and good luck to the ladies testing soon!!!

Here: long weekend. DS was sick all weekend, and we didn't get time to sleep, let alone BD a lot. So I guess I'll really be able to try my theory of BD a tad less then the last months (where we were BD a LOT starting right after O) Our criticals days will be wednesday, thursday and friday. So the BD fest really is about to start. We'll see what happens:p
Have a good day all!

[FSUSammy]

Cosmogirl - I think the earliest I plan on testing is this coming Sunday. And then probably every 2 days after if AF hasn't shown by then.

[DianeCourt]

Hi! I can't believe I'm here already. DH & are ready to TTC #2 this month!

CC Name: DianeCourt
Me: 28
DH: 31
Married since: 9/14/02
Off BCP since: 10/1/06
TTC since: 10/1/06
Charting since: 10/06
Known issues/test results: None
Chart: link (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/803ac)
Current status: Waiting for 1st AF post BCP

We have a daughter that turns one on October 25th. We're hoping that our kids are about two years apart. It took us 4 cycles to conceive Lily, so we're starting now.

I finished my pack of BCP on Saturday, and normally AF arrives tomorrow morning. (That will be CD1 for me. Until AF arrives, my chart will just show the cycles that we were TTC #1 two years ago.) This has been an interesting month because I forgot to take one of my BCP two weeks ago. (Only the 2nd time I've ever forgotten in 10 years!) I had over a week of spotting due to my forgetfullness. I'm assuming AF will show up tomorrow, but I'm not totally sure given the fact that I've been bleeding for a while already.

I'm excited to join you all! Best wishes!

[FSUSammy]

Welcome DianeCourt!

[DelSol]

Welcome ~ sea74, granada, filmgirl7 & DianeCourt! I hope your stay is short and sweet.

ADSigMel ~ we got the BDing started last night. Giving DH a break tonight so he can be ready fro Tuesday - Friday. He's just getting over from being sick.

Mrs_pell ~ good luck w/ the new doctor.

granada ~ love your spin on the diet.

ABirney ~ sorry about the comment from DH's aunt, sometimes people don't think before they speak.

numberlady ~ I hope things work out with you & DH.

melandtim & kanga ~ I hope you feel better.

loud_culry ~ I hear you about the acne. I finally went to the dermo and bought Neutrogena Advanced Solutions Acne Therapy System and I started using the Neutrogena Advanced Solutions At Home MicroDermabrasion System, now I just need some face lotion since I can feel my face getting dry but everything is working.

Sammy ~ good luck!

cat_lover ~ great explanation. At this point I'm just trying for a baby, don't care what the sex is.

ceaserbride ~ sorry about AF.

cosmogirl ~ we're really close on BDfest schedules. My critical days will be Tuesday - Thursday, possible Friday, that's why DH has "off" tonight but knows he will be on duty Tuesday - Thursday with the possibility of Friday. My O can occur any where between Wednesday - Thursday.

me ~ CD 12. DH was so funny last night, I told him we didn't have to DTD tomorrow (meaning tonight) and he was like why isn't it time and I said it was but the crucial days are Tuesday - Thursday and maybe Friday. Friday is all dependent on my O and when my temps rise. I told him that I knew he wouldn't be able to DTD for 6 days in a row because initially I thought we should start tomorrow (meaning today) and was like yeah you're right. So he's resting today and will be onboard tomorrow and the rest of the days.

[numberlady]

Melandtim & Kanga- sorry you have been sick
Welcome Filmgirl - I agree with ff moving your O date to the 17th. I hope you get your summer baby!
FSUSammy - It is amazing that after all that time your body did the right thing. Good thing you were charting and were able to know what was going on. I hope you caught the egg!
ceasarbride - I would probably use that as a rought guide, but really until you start charting it is hard to know. Some women have shorter luteal phases, and then you might not O until even later.
Welcome DianeCourt - Welcome, I hope your stay is short and sweet.

[honeygirl]

Welcome Sea74, DianeCourt and Filmgirl7.

filmgirl - I agree that FF is putting off your O b/c of the EWCM after what appears to be a temp jump. Usually we dry up after O. I'm wondering if your EWCM after the jump is actually semen and not EWCM?

ADSigMel - Perhaps joining this thread will bring you some early O luck! Have you made an appt with a gyn or RE yet?

ABirney - Sorry to hear about insensitve comments by family!

numberlady - Sorry to hear that you and your DH aren't friends right now. I hope that you can make up or at least talk about it before you O. It is hard to BD when you can barely talk/stand each other.

melandtim - Feel better soon! I hope that you are getting rest and taking care of yourself. As for getting pregnant when you're sick (fever), a good friend of mine did, her daughter is a year old now. :)

Loud_curly - I'm with you on the ruby grapefruit juice being better. I had the regular kind first, and am doing ruby this time. It is easier to choke down. My DH likes my charts also, although it took a while for him to handle the concept. He was very "TMI" about everything, especially CM. The longer we do this (14 months charting so far) the more comfortable he gets.

FSUSammy - Yay for the UTI getting under control. Like this TTC thing isn't complicated enough, UTI's are not needed! As for the symptoms, oh I do hope that they are pregnancy and not the other kind. Hang in there. In many ways isn't this the best part of the cycle, the hopeful part? :)

ceaserbride - It's hard to assume this early in for you what your cycles will be without seeing more charts. If your luteal phase is consistent and you O around the same time each month, then you can predict. Otherwise it is hard to say.

cosmogirl & DelSol - Sounds like you ladies have a BD plan of attack. Good luck!

I know it's not funny, but your comment about not being "friends" made me laugh...just a little. I'm glad you're friends again though so the BD can be more fun! It's NO FUN BDing when you're not "feeling it."
MrsPell - It is funny, don't feel bad about LOL. It is so lame/funny that we can get along most of the time but then get into a pattern bickering about stupid things. If only we could realize that when we're annoyed/not friends (that's the therapist in me coming out).

Whew, that was a lot of SO's. I'd better hurry up or I'll be late to work!

Update: I'm on cd17, just waiting to O. My DH left for a trip this morning so we had REALLY early BD. We also fit some in on late on sat night (basically sun morning). So now I'm hoping to either O NOW or for it to wait till he gets back on wednesday night. I'm not sure if we even can get pregnant this cycle since I haven't started the clomid and will not be taking progesterone. But here's hoping!!

[ADSigMel]

mrs pell - Good luck with the new doctor. I hope your appointment this morning went well!

Granada - Yeah, my friends all think I'm nuts with all the green tea I've been drinking...they think I've turned into some sort of crunchy health nut or something. Of course, they stop talking about it when I explain to them that it enhances the quality of my cervical mucus, LOL!

Angie - I'm sorry about DH's aunt's comment. I'm sure she meant well, but people really need to learn to keep their mouths shut!

numberlady - I hope you and DH get everything sorted out!

melandtim - How weird that FF would call O (even if it is with dotted crosshairs) with all those negative OPKs.

kanga - My mom was like that when she was pregnant, never telling anyone (even me :eek: ) until she was at least six or seven months along. It was because she had several late-term (like, 25+ weeks) miscarriages. And, lucky girl that she is, she never even showed so no one would know unless she told them...when my sister was born, she only weighed 8 pounds more than she had when she got pg with her!

filmgirl - Welcome! I do agree with FF that your O date should probably be moved to CD17 after tomorrow's temp goes in, because it coincides so much better with your CM. I'm sorry. :( If you BD today, you might still be able to improve your chances of a BFP this cycle.

mkvh - I've done that soooo many times, where I had all the signs of O (sometimes even including the temp surge!), and then AF just never showed up and neither did my BFP. :( It really sucks, and I have no idea what causes it.

DelSol - The possibility of missing O when trying for a boy is the very reason that FF discourages the use of the Shettles method for women who have had any issues at all with conceiving. Definitely better to maximize our opportunities and get some baby rather than be too picky and get no baby at all. LOL, looks like you and DianeCourt are both going to have nice weeks! ;)

Loud curly - I agree that it still looks like you O'd on CD16. The chart looks really promising, assuming that is the case. Who knows, today might even be an early implantation dip (how's that for fanning the FPS flames? ;) ).

Sam - Your signs really do look very promising. I really hope you get your BFP this month! Didn't we leave TTA around the same time?

cat loverpq - When you think about it, the Shettles method really does make a lot of sense. Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure the different positions dealie is misguided...I mean, who's to say the guy will ejaculate with his "tip" anywhere near the cervix just because they are doing it doggy-style? It could just as easily happen on an outswing, so to speak, and end up depositing his semen just as though they had been in the missionary position.

ceaserbride - I think it would only be safe to assume an O date based on cycle length if you are very sure of your LP. Also, it is important to remember that a general cycle length is no guarantee that this cycle will conform to that general rule.

Cosmogirl - Good luck with your BD fest...looks like somebody's going to have a very pleasant week! ;)

DianeCourt - Welcome to the group! I hope your stay is short and sweet.

honeygirl - I did finally get my appointment with the gyn specialist, and I'm going in on November 1...that was the earliest anyone could see me, even though I got my referral at the end of August! I hope you O today and get your BFP very soon!

[FSUSammy]

ADSigMel - Yup we left TTA around the same time.

[jessied1025]

Subscribing to the thread!

I hope to catch up on so's later on.

Today I have my appointment with a OBGYN to discuss fertility testing. I will let you know what I find out!

[Loud_curly]

Honeygirl- hope your timing works out with the travel. It actually worked quite well for us - there was a bit of a sense of urgency in trying to "sneak in" some BD rather than making it one more chore to do when we got home.

FSUSammy - Your FPS sound really promising!! Planning to test on Sunday?

Catlover - I remember finding one site on the web disputing the Shettles method, in that only on O+1 was there any correlation to a girl. All the other dates (O+3, O+2, O+1, O) all resulted in more boys than girls! I don't remember where I saw this, but it hammered home my thought that I'll be thrilled to have a baby of either sex!

DelSol - Good plan with the BDing! Esp. if it keeps him well-rested and ready to go for later in the week.

ADSigMel - Funny you should mention implantation dip. I just got back from lunch and saw a bit of spotting on my undies. Not a lot, but definitely something. It seems to be over now, nothing in my CM when I wiped. And I can't recall spotting at all, ever. But no other FPS, so I'm just going with it being a fluke.

[cat_loverpq]

ADSigMel ~ You're right in that ejaculation could just as easily happen on an "outswing". I think they just give you those positions as having the best chance for the gender you would like, but obviously they don't guarantee anything. Overall though, Shettles does make sense. :)

Loud_curly ~ Hmm, that's interesting. I'm not surprised though as nothing is fool-proof when it comes to getting the gender you want! I REALLY want to have a girl first, but I would still be ok with a boy. ;)

[FSUSammy]

Loud_curly - Yeah if my temps stay up and the FPS keeps up I'll probably test Sunday and then I plan every 2 days after. Sunday would be 13 DPO so I figure it would be a good day to test. Hopefully I can wait that long.

Sam

[ADSigMel]

jessied1025 - I hope your appointment today goes well.

Loud curly - Ooooh, a temp dip and spotting! When are you going to test?

I didn't have to tinkle this morning before I left for school, so I wasn't able to take an OPK. How bad is it to wait until I get home tonight (at 7) to test? I'm sure I wouldn't miss a surge just by being off in testing by 9 hours, would I? How long does the surge (is it LH or FSH? I'm too lazy to go find out) last, anyway? At any rate, I'm still feeling good about this cycle. CM is looking good, as are temps, and my libido has been nice and high (fortunately). We're going to try to keep BD'ing every day (or at least every other day) until I see an O...hopefully it won't take too terribly long.

[FSUSammy]

ADSigMel - It's actually better to take an OPK in the afternoon. Just make sure to hold your pee and limit your fluid intake for 4 hours before you test.

[Chris~n~Jen]

Ugh! Another frustrating morning as my therm did not save my temp AGAIN! :mad: I may be out buying a new one tonight. I thought that it was just a fluke but 2 days later it does it again. So I have no idea if I've O'd yet or not. Just going by cycle days AF would be due this weekend. So we'll see what happens. I probably won't even test. Plus I'm starting to break out and that's usually a sign of AF coming.


Ok, off to update this thread since we have so many new ones joining us..... :)

[FSUSammy]

Jen - You might just need a new battery. Save yourself some money and just get a new battery and see if that helps.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to Here!

Welcome Sea74, filmgirl7, & DianeCourt!

[Chris~n~Jen]

Jen - You might just need a new battery. Save yourself some money and just get a new battery and see if that helps.
Yea, that's what I wsa thinking. I have a cheapo Walgreens one that cost about $6.00. It probably isn't worth the aggrivation to find the right battery but I'll see if they have them at Walgreens also. Thanks! :)

[ADSigMel]

Sam - Well, that's good to hear. Is it ok to take it at night? That way I could do my OPK and CP check at the same time.

Jen - Sorry about your therm issues. I've always wondered if a special BBT thermometer was really any better than a regular thermometer. My BD therm gives me the same result as any other thermometer. Probably just another excuse to make obsessed TTC women spend even more $$$. :rolleyes:

[FSUSammy]

ADSigMel - Yeah its perfectly fine to take it around 7pm. I've actually heard of peopel getting better results around that time. Apparently there is something about your body not having the surge in FMU since it hasn't made its way all the way through your system. By the end of the day it should be detected.

[jessied1025]

Appointment update:
My appointment went really well and the Dr. was very nice and willing to discuss and answer any questions I had. She did blood work and I should get that back in a couple of days. She suggested a HSG to check for polups, since I spot before AF and sometimes during my cycle. I have to schedule an appointment for the HSG once I get AF. Crossing my fingers that she doesn't show!! ;) DH has to contact his doctor (he is on different insurance than I am) and schedule a SA. My Dr. also made me feel a little bit relieved regarding cost. She is listing the appointment for "spoting during cycle" instead of "infertility" and doing the same for the HSG. She did indicate that should she find something or need to do further testing that it probably would be listed as infertility issues. But as long as I can save some money now I am happy.

Alright, better be getting back to work....

[DianeCourt]

Thanks, ladies! It's good (& kinda scary!) to be here. I may not always have time to do shout-outs because I'm chasing an 11 month old around the house. :rolleyes: Don't take it personally, though, & please know that I'm reading along, if nothing else!

[FSUSammy]

Jessie - Sounds like a productive appt. Keep us updated when you find out anything new.

[tealynn]

Wow, it took me all afternoon (in between work of course) to catch up!

It's good to see some new faces. Welcome to Ceasarbride, Granada, Sea, Filmgirl, Diane, sorry if I'm leaving anyone out. Hope your stay is short & sweet.

Jessied, glad your doctor's visit went well. It's alway reassuring when you feel like someone is really listening to you and on your side.

Honeygirl,do you have a typical O date or is it random? Hopefully it will hold out for your DH to return, that way you'll be able to nail it (no pun intended) ;)

FSUSammy,any new FPS??? It sounds pretty good so far.

SQ2 & Robyn,sorry about the BFNs so far. I was really thinking I'd see some BFPs floating around in here today.

Catlover, you seem to know quite a bit about Shettles...are you secretly hoping for a little girl???!!! You're right about the methods, I did a lot of research on it last cycle since I was grasping for straws w/ my bad BD timing.

Numberlady, I really hope you can get the source of your problem w/ DH. It's such a downer being upset and angry w/ your spouse. My DH wants to confront the issues when there's something out there, I usually just want to go away and hide, which is usually a good thing because (I'm sure I'm seem really sweet here :D :D :D ) but I have a bit of temper.

Abirney,what planet do people come from that say stupid crap like that? I hope you thought of something good in return like "you didn't tell me you had a lobotomy!"

Loud_curly, the weather has been awesome lately hasn't it? We turned off the A/C and put a window fan in and it's great for sleeping!

I can't possibly do shout outs to all but good luck to those testing, attacking their husbands, catching the egg, or having a glass of wine cause AF is visiting.

For me, AF has officially left the building and I'm gearing up for what I hope and pray is the last BDfest before my BFP (the power of positive thinking!)

[FSUSammy]

tealynn - Well if you wanna know about today's FPS I do have a few add to my list. LOL I have been pretty tired today. And I swear at one point today I wanted to say I felt flutters in my tummy. But I soooo know my mind is starting to play tricks on me. Oh yeah and I forgot to mention the vivid dreams I've had the past 2 nights. Last night's dream was awesome apparently I went in for a job interview and got the job on the spot for 100k. Man are dreams great or what? LOL. Good luck to you in catching that egg!!!! Are you guys going to try anything different this cycle?

Sam

[tealynn]

The only thing different we'll do this cycle is actually try to BD closer to my O date LOL! We missed it by a mile last time.

[cat_loverpq]

ADSigMel ~ Actually, for OPK's the best time to test is 10am - 8pm so you should be fine. And Sam is right, later in the day is better.

tealynn ~ Funny you should mention that, b/c I AM hoping for a little girl! :D I bought the Shettles book last year when we first started trying and we decided to give it a whirl. However, the girl method really only works well when you can predict your O date several days in advance. Mine is so sporadic (CD9 to CD47!) that I doubt it will work for us. :rolleyes: So we're trying a few of the recommendations for a girl (little to no caffeine, BDing frequently before O to "keep the count down", etc) but I don't know how much good it'll do.

[ADSigMel]

Sam and cat_loverpq - Thanks for the advice. I'm pretty much always home by 8 at night, so I'm going to start taking my OPK and checking CP at that time.

Jessied1025 - That's good that your doctor is listing the appt today so you don't get charged for infertility work. I'm hoping my doctor is willing to do the same at my appt next month. Technically, it's not for TTC (I wasn't even actively TTC yet when I scheduled it), it's to check for other problems that could be affecting my reproductive system, like hypothyroidism or something.

tealynn - Good luck with your upcoming BD fest!

[polkadot]

ok...i was wondering where are my TTC friends had gone...i never got the update about the new thread ....I am soooooooooo behind....sorry girls...:o

Well listen to this...so we are not supposed to try this month...well we only see each other on the weekend, b/c of B's schedule, so of course we bded every night Friday -sunday well last night i had so much cramping I expected to be bleeding again, but i took an OPK just to see what it would say and it was POSITIVE...i have been having sex all weekend and I am Oing...I am freaking out...I am so scared that I might get pg again and then have the same situation again....

i cant believe I am actually kinda hoping that I dont get pg this month...:rolleyes:

I am still having EW though so maybe, I havent Oed yet, and I wont see B again until Friday...sooooo who knows...

I will try to do So's soon...sorry I am so far behind!!

[mrs_pell]

Oh....my....goodness! You girls were BUSY in here today!!! :eek: I guess I'd better get busy!!

granada ~ Good luck w/the green tea and the grapefruit juice! I hate GF juice, but I've been thinking about the green tea (I'd have no problem if I could afford a green tea frappuccino from SB every day! Those suckers are good!).

ABirney ~ OMG! I'm so sorry your DH's aunt was so rude! I've had people ask me if I was pregnant before and it's so hurtful! I won't say anything to anyone unless they are obviously 9months, basketball in a shirt, pregnant! Glad your trip went well otherwise though.

Numberlady ~ Sorry things aren't going so well for you and your DH. Hope you get whatever worked out soon!

melandtim ~ OMG! I hope you're feeling better soon! I can't remember the last time I've had a fever that high!!

Kanga ~ I hope you're feeling better soon too! It's definitely that time of the year again (though here it's not quite there yet since it's still 90 degrees out!).

filmgirl ~ Welcome! Hope you get that BFP in the next few months!

cowgirl ~ Sorry AF showed. :(

mkvh ~ Hope you get that O soon! Sucks to have your body giving you conflicting info.

loud_curly ~ I've been having horrible breakouts the last few months, too! It's driving me crazy! I don't know what's up, but it needs to stop! And, I love that weather, too. I'm tired of the 90 degree weather (but I don't want anything lower than the 60s! ;) ) And, EXCITING about the spotting! Hopefully that means something very good!!!

FSUSammy ~ those are DEFINITELY promising symptoms! Keeping my fingers crossed for you!

ceasarbride ~ my LP phases are usually 16 days, so I would say give yourself a few more days in there when you're trying to figure out when your going to O instead of just the "14 days" everyone says.

cosmo ~ Hope your DH is feeling better and that y'all have fun with your BDing.

DianeCourt ~ WELCOME!

DelSol ~ TOO funny about your DH "resting." LOL! Hopefully it does the trick!

Honeygirl ~ Glad you got to get some BDing in. Hopefully you O soon or Oing waits till your DH gets back! Fingers crossed that your timing all works out!

ADSigMel ~ Good luck catching the eggie!

Chris~n~Jen ~ I think I need to get a new thermometer, too. It's taking forever to read, and the light is starting to go out on it. Sucks, because it's something I don't think about until I actually use it, so I keep forgetting to buy a new one! Anyway, sorry you don't have a clear idea about what's going on. Hopefully this will be your month anyway!

Jessie ~ Glad to hear that your appointment went well today. It's funny b/c I had mine today too, which I'll tell all about after SOs, but it sounds like it was pretty similar to yours.

Tealynn ~ Yeah for that witch being gone! Hopefully that's the last time you'll see her for a long time!

Polka ~ Wouldn't that be crazy if you do get a BFP when you don't *really* want it?!? Well, I'll just say good luck and hopefully whatever is *meant* to happen will happen. How are you guys doing?

HOLY CRAP! That was 45 posts worth since my last visit (and that was LATE last night!!). My update in the next post!

[mrs_pell]

OK...now for *MY* update! ;)

I had my appointment today and Mark went with me (which meant that he even had to drive all the way BACK down -- 45 minutes or so-- there this afternoon to pick me up from work b/c he didn't want to drive separate this morning!). It was really good. The doctor was really nice and was shocked to see all my printed out charts. She said, "WOW...you're really organized." I'm glad FF can make me at least *appear* organized! ;) She wants me to come in for CD3 and CD21 BW next month, and after my next cycle starts (hopefully NOT) call to schedule an HSG. I told Mark he would definitely have to go with me for that since I've heard so many horror stories! He also has to call another doctor and go in a SA.

Here's the REALLY funny part about the appointment. I told y'all earlier that Mark said he'd go "since there'd be no stirrups involved." Well.....after we talked to her in her office, she said she'd like to do a quick internal exam to make sure everything felt okay. I thought she'd tell him he could go out into the waiting room, but NO...she tells him to go into the room with me b/c it'll be good practice for him! :D I asked him if he was traumatized and he just says, "what I will do for a baby!" But THEN, at the end, the nurse was going over all the paperwork and other appointments, and she starts talking to him about the SA. OMG...it was so funny. She was an older lady (probably older than my mom) and she was talking about how long he needs to restrain, and that some people like to start off w/intercourse and "pullout" but that he really should masturbate...blah blah blah. I guess you guys would have to know my husband to know how NOT like him it is to talk about this stuff. It was REALLY funny and I really think he was traumatized! ;) :p But, he does need to get used to it. When we get pregnant, it will be MUCH more!

LOL...he just asked me if I was typing a novel...I guess it's time to get off of here! :o

[ABirney]

Wow, there's alot of posts since this morning! So sorry if I miss anyone.
LoudCurly hope that was early implant. Wonder what your temp will do tomorrow?
FSUSam yay for lots of FPS! Glad your UTI is better too.
ceasarbride I agree with the other ladies... you'll see your pattern as far as O day and LP after a few cycles of charting. And not every cycle is the same so there might be an off O date now and then.
cosmogirl hope you DS feels better soon!
DianeCourt Welcome! Hope your stay is short!
DelSol Hope your DH is feeling better and ready to go for your BDfest!
honeygirl Hope your egg waits for your DH to get back!
ADSigMel Good luck at your appt next month.
jessied glad your appt went well.
jen that sucks about your therm! Hopefully you get it fixed/replaced soon.
tealynn LOL about the lobotomy comment... I was just so shocked I could just stammer out, umm no baby yet.
polkadot Hope you didn't catch your egg until you're ready to. (It feels REALLy wierd to say that!!)
MrsPell Glad your appt went well too. Too funny about your DH being traumatized... mine would be the same way.

Nothing new here... just thinking I might email my dr and see how long he wants me to wait before going on provera again. He started me on it CD41 last cycle and I'm currently on CD38. Thanks everyone also for your support about DH's aunt's comment. He's told me not to worry about it either, she's always been kind of rude (only 2nd time I've met her) but it has me more determined than ever to work on my wt.

[DelSol]

mrs_pell ~ OMG, I am dying laughing reading your post about the older lady telling your DH what needs to be done for a SA. I think your DH & my DH are the same, they don't like talking about this stuff, they just want to know when the BDing needs to done. I know my DH is going to be traumatized with doctors visit and me giving birth.

tealynn ~ I like your positive thinking, I'm thinking like you and having postive thoughts this will be our month.

polkadot ~ like mrs_pell said "good luck and hopefully whatever is *meant* to happen will happen."




I think the resting did DH good, he was in a good mood when I came home. He was sitting on our steps and I pull in and he starts doing his "sexy" dance. We have a joke between us about the Justin Timberlake song so I yell out to him "oh are you bringing sexy back?" He starts laughing and I started laughing. Then I realized our neighbors windows were open, we live in a townhouse so I'm sure they may have heard something. :o

I even thought about bring up doing the BD tonight but right now I can't stomach it, my head is killing me and it's making me sick. :( Oh well, we have tomorrow - Thursday/Friday.

I hope everyone is having a great night! I’m off to relieve my headache.

[Loud_curly]

FSUSammy - Your symptoms still sound good!

ADSigMel -Good luck with the OPK - hope you can successfully time and catch the egg!

Tealynn - So funny! Timing is everything, right;)

Catlover - I'd love to have a girl first as well. But boys run in DH's family, and as I continually point out to him, I contribute an X no matter what:p

Polkadot - Wow, what are the odds of that? Maybe things will work out just fine, b/c you were just relaxing and not really trying?

Mrs Pell - Sounds like a great appointment! How funny was your DH! I think that this whole process is really helping our DHs open their eyes to all we have to go through just to bear their children. Geez!:rolleyes:

Me, no new spotting. And it was a really small amount - the only reason I saw it was b/c I was wearing flesh colored undies. If it was a dark color, I would have had no idea. I'd say the spotting was maybe the diameter of a nickel in total (not a solid blob). I'm trying to not get my hopes up, since I'm only 4 or 5 DPO and that seems reallllllly early for implantation.

[honeygirl]

MrsPell - Yay for a good appointment! Looks like you and I will both be doing the CD3 & cd21 bloodwork next cycle (unless we're pregnant). So sweet of your DH to keep you company, stirrups and all. Is your DH okay with doing a SA? Anyway, congrats on a good appointment!

polkadot - Not sure if I should wish that you do or don't get pregnant. How about I'll wish the best for you and your DH (whatever that ends up being). :)

DelSol - LOL about the "bringing sexy back". We have our own song, but I'm to shy to post it here. :D

Loud_curly - I hope it's the right kind of spotting!! Fingers crossed.

FSUSammy - Well my dear, I sure hope that you are pregnant. It sounds very possible with all your symptoms. I am crossing fingers and toes for you.

[granada]

Oh my! This thread moves fast! :eek: I guess it means you all are just a bunch of supportive women. :D I have to apologize now, because I know I will be very bad at doing shout-outs. But know that I am obsessing--uh, I mean, reading--along. ;)

Welcome to the new ladies!

Loud_curly ~ Did you notice an increase in CM with grapefruit juice this month? I got the ruby red, and I just plan to gulp it down if it's too gross. One day, I will be telling my kids all the things I went through to bring them into this world. :rolleyes:

FSUSammy and cat_loverpq ~ Thanks for answering my question about Shettles for a girl. I guess before we started TTC, I was thinking I'd like to try for a girl, but the more I hear about it, there just seems to be so many things to think about. I'm in your camp now, FSUSammy, I'll just leave it to the powers that be, and I'll be happy with a healthy baby. :) Of course, I still find all the Shettles rules very interesting. cat_loverpq, what's this about BD'ing a lot before O to keep the count down? Is that because girl-sperm is more resilient than boy-sperm?

ADSigMel ~ If my co-workers ask, I will have to tell them that green tea improves your cervical mucus. That should probably sufficiently gross them out. :)

Too many smilies...

[granada]

mrs_pell ~ I'll find out here, in about a month, how good the green tea and grapefruit juice are. :) You know, I find most teas taste so much better with a little bit of honey.

DelSol ~ My DH is kind of squeamish like yours. We've had many discussions where DH says he can't be in the hospital room with me when I'm giving birth, and I tell him that is not negotiable. :cool:

[honeygirl]

DelSol ~ My DH is kind of squeamish like yours. We've had many discussions where DH says he can't be in the hospital room with me when I'm giving birth, and I tell him that is not negotiable. :cool:

{{raises hand}} Me too! My DH refuses to see me give birth also. He swears that he'll pass out. We'll have to start a support group when we're all pregnant!

[numberlady]

Thanks ladies for all your support with DH. We seemed to have worked things out just in time.:D Does anyone else ever go through stages where everything the other does drives them crazy? We both end up snippy and it goes on for about 5 days until we are able to get over it.

Honeygirl - Hope you caught the egg before DH left!
ChrisnJen - Sorry about your thermometer issues. How frustrating.
Jessied - Sounds like you had a good appointment. I'm glad that she was able to code the visit so that it will be paid for.
Polkadot - Good luck with whatever happens this cycle. That must be hard to only see your DH on weekends.
Mrs. Pell - That is so funny about your appointment and seems kinda like my DH. I love that the nurse was telling him how to get his "sample".
DelSol - Looks like we are cycle buddies again this cycle. Good luck with your BD fest this week.

[RobynScott]

Hey Ladies,

I missed a day b/c of the holiday and there is no way I will be able to catch up!

Just wanted to say hello - good luck to those who are testing, bd'ing or good ole just waiting to O! :) and welcome to the new members!

I am in limbo now - definitely not PG (temps keep going down) - but still not at the end of this cycle (still spotting!) - so really, I am nowhere.

Oh well - busy day at work ahead - which is why I am already here at this hour ...

Have a great day all!

[cat_loverpq]

cat_loverpq, what's this about BD'ing a lot before O to keep the count down? Is that because girl-sperm is more resilient than boy-sperm?

Yeah, pretty much. I'd have to look it up in my book to be completely certain, but it has to do with the fact that the boy-sperm are faster swimmers. If you were to hold off BDing for a few days, there would be a lot more boy-sperm stored up and you would decrease the chances for the girl-sperm to get to the egg first.

[amurphy]

Just swinging by to send you all positive vibes. October was a BIG month in this thread last year and I hope you guys beat our record! :D

[FSUSammy]

mrs_pell - Sounds like you had a productive appointment. That's too funny that your DH not only experienced the fun of the ole stirrups but the talk about a SA. LOL Good luck to you guys and keep us updated.

DelSol - That's funny about your DH's sexy dance. LOL

Loud_curly - I had spotting (very little) at 3 DPO. I'm actually pretty sure it was O spotting, after the fact of course. Definitely was too soon for implantation spotting, although its nice to be hopeful.

Robyn - Sorry you are still spotting. Just curious have you talked to your doc about that? Do they have you on progesterone?

Me - 8 DPO today. Have a bad headache today. My temp went down slightly today, I hope it goes back up tomorrow or else this cycle is definitely doomed. Who knows maybe just maybe that's an implantation dip. I guess we'll see tomorrow. I'm trying so hard to convince myself that I'm not PG that way I don't drive myself crazy until Sunday. Yesterday I was eating throughout the day even though I'm soooo not turned on by food right now. I'll get that overwhelming urge to EAT and I do LOL! I also noticed that I'm getting tired a lot, we'll see if that happens again today. Nips are still pretty dark in my opinion and sensitive to the touch.

Sam

[Loud_curly]

RobynScott - Hope you had an easy fast. So sorry that AF came and ruined it:mad:

Numberlady - Glad things are better with your husband these days. Yep, DH and I go through phases - first we can't stand each other, then we're so sappy sweet, then we tolerate each other, etc. Sometimes our phases change minute to minute!

Granada - I can't say that I noticed much of a difference in my CM. I did chug it everyday though. In fact, I didn't really see that much EWCM this cycle at all. I think part of that may be due to the fact that we were BDing a lot, and I had a bit of trouble distinguishing between the seminal fluid and the EWCM (I know, TMI!).

DelSol - Too cute about your DH and your song!

FSUSammy - I agree that it's way too early for implantation spotting, but isn't 4-5DPO a bit late for O spotting? You symptoms still sound good - a little temp dip is not the end of the world, esp. in the middle of your LP.

SQ2 - Please test (for us ;) - your chart looks amazing. 14 DPO, and temps still up!

As for me, my temp shot up this morning to a new all-time high. I finally crossed the 98 degree threshold. Not much else to report - no new spotting or other FPS.

[Chris~n~Jen]

{{raises hand}} Me too! My DH refuses to see me give birth also. He swears that he'll pass out.
Chris has already informed me that the only way he will be able to be in the room is if he is only at my head. He will not be one of the guys standing there trying to "catch the baby". Good thing men weren't the ones to have these babies. If they can't even stand to watch it happen, imagine if they actually had to DO it. :rolleyes:

Does anyone else ever go through stages where everything the other does drives them crazy? We both end up snippy and it goes on for about 5 days until we are able to get over it.
This happens with Chris and I on occasion. When we were first married I think we had stages like this every other week. :eek: Just every thing he did annoyed me and vise versa. It was weird because I didn't expect it to be that way since we had already been living togeather for almost 3 years before getting married. Now that we are approaching our 1st anniversary it has calmed down quite a bit. We'll only have 1 or 2 days of being annoyed a month. So it's getting better. So know that your not alone. :)

I am in limbo now - definitely not PG (temps keep going down) - but still not at the end of this cycle (still spotting!) - so really, I am nowhere.
Agh, I am sorry to here you are in limbo. That really stinks. :(

me ~ Well this morning I took my temp and then ran to the bathroom to see what the temp was before it shut off. It's still in the 97.8 range. So either I'm having an annvo cycle or because of the battery the temp isn't going any higher. Weird! :confused: I keep forgetting to pick up a new thermometer because I'm just not really thinking about it until I temp in the morning. So I'm not really feeling very optimistic about this cycle. :(

[FSUSammy]

Jen - Test out your thermometer later to see if it gives you a different number. It should. Do you have any post-O symptoms that would lead you to believe that you did O?

[DelSol]

loud_curly ~ could be implantation. I see your temp jumped up this morning, looks good.

honeygirl ~ I always have to laugh when i hear that song because I think of DH dancing around.

granada, honeygirl & Jen ~ we'll have to start a support group since our DH's probably won't be able to handle us giving birth. I'm hoping mine surprises me and doesn't pass out.

numberlady ~ so glad to have you as my cycle buddy. Good Luck to you also with the BDfest.

Robyn ~ sorry about the temps dropping.

Sammy ~ chart still looks good, fingers crossed for you.

Jen ~ sorry about the thermometer issues, hopefully you can get a new one and see what's going on.

Me ~ CD13 and the major BDing fest will begin tonight. I’m hoping we catch the egg. I’m feeling positive so that helps also.

[Loud_curly]

Jen - I'd just go ahead and get a new BBT therm with memory - it's probably easier than finding a new battery. When I need to remind myself to do/get something, I leave a note right at the front door on the ground so it's the last/first thing I see.

DelSol and numberlady- good luck BDing! And I think it's probably too early for implantation spotting, so I'm just chalking it up to nothing.

[FSUSammy]

DelSol - Good luck catching the egg!!!

[Chris~n~Jen]

Jen - Test out your thermometer later to see if it gives you a different number. It should. Do you have any post-O symptoms that would lead you to believe that you did O?
You know I hadn't even thought to test the thermometer at a different time. I guess cause I just keep forgetting about it until it's morning again. Thanks! I don't usually have many post O symptoms. Other the my boobs being slightly sore and my face breaking out. All of which are also pre-AF symptoms so who knows. :rolleyes: In all these months I haven't yet figured out the art of checking my CP. I guess I should start trying to do that next cycle and see if I can get any clues from that.

[COLOR="DarkOrange"]granada, honeygirl & Jen ~ we'll have to start a support group since our DH's probably won't be able to handle us giving birth. I'm hoping mine surprises me and doesn't pass out.
This is funny because my DH has been known to faint at the sight of blood. :rolleyes: Although he was a kid when this happened, he still gets a lot of flack from it. He swears it's only the sight of his own blood that does this to him. I guess we'll see, because there is sure to be LOTS of blood. ;)

Jen - I'd just go ahead and get a new BBT therm with memory - it's probably easier than finding a new battery. When I need to remind myself to do/get something, I leave a note right at the front door on the ground so it's the last/first thing I see.
Good idea. While I'm thinking about it maybe I should write myself a note here at work and attach it to my purse. That might do the trick! Thanks

[katiems118]

Loudcurly- nice dip there, with spotting, perhaps implantation? :)

DelSol- hope the BD fiesta catches the egg.

Im still crampy, it seems to be worse in the afternoons, but right now its especially bothersome...Im thinking this is just how my body behaves after O...trying not to get too excited.

SQ2- where are you, we are all excited waiting inpatiently!! :) Nice Temps

[ADSigMel]

polkadot - Yikes! I hope everything works out for the best.

mrs pell - LOL at your poor DH having to get SA instructions. My husband would have walked out the second the stirrups appeared!

ABirney - It's funny how much variation these is in different doctors' procedures. I'm pretty sure I read in another thread that doctors won't usually give you Provera until CD90! :eek: I thought about asking for it last cycle, but now I'm glad I didn't b/c my gyn appt was on CD93, and I actually O'd on my own on CD96. I would have missed it had I gotten the Provera to induce bleeding.

DelSol - LOL at your DH "bringing sexy back." Hope you're able to get the BD'ing started in earnest today!

Loud curly - I don't know, 4DPO is only a day earlier than usual for implantation, and with your temp spike today.... Your chart looks terribly promising to me! ;)

granada, honeygirl, Jen, and DelSol - My DH is right there with yours'. He is not interested in being present to watch another person come out of my vagina, and I can't say that I blame him. The less public the experience, the better. I mean, seriously, it's not like 999 trillion women haven't given birth before. Trust me, the baby and I can figure out how to get it out of there.

RobynScott - Sorry AF found you this time. :( On to the next cycle!

Sam - Don't worry, babe, you're still well above your CL. I wouldn't worry about AF being anywhere close to showing up. You still have a perfectly acceptable chance of being pg this cycle.

Good luck to everyone still BDing and hoping for BFPs. Better luck this cycle to those AF found.

As for me, it's CD19 and the CM seems to have dried up, but still no + OPK (I got no test line at all last night :confused: ) and no thermal shift. I'm hoping the EWCM comes back today. My CP has definitely been getting higher and softer, so I'm hoping that means an O is right around the corner. My temps are still nice and normal-looking, so I should be able to get a good clear thermal shift if I ever do O. The BDing continues. I'm really hoping to be able to cancel my Nov. 1 appt with the specialist and go tell my regular gyn that I'm pg! *fingers crossed* for a July baby!

[FSUSammy]

ADSigMel - Good luck catching that egg!!!!

[granada]

I am sitting here drinking grapefruit juice. It is not that bad actually. :cool: But just wanted to say that I am feeling the mucus building up in my throat and mouth, so let's hope it does the same in other parts.

[Loud_curly]

katie - I think my chart and your chart look very similar! When are you planning on testing - Sunday? Hope these cramps mean something good ;)

ADSigMel - Your temps look really good - now bring on the O! Release the egg! :) Wouldn't it be great to have an early July baby?

Granada - I would drink the grapefruit juice right around this time everyday. I'd drink it as soon as I got home from work, since I was usually thirsty after my walk/metro/bus commute. I made myself drink my glass of GF juice before water - it worked well for me.

As for you ladies with DH that want nothing to do with the birth process, I think mine will be too involved! I'm the one that's really bad at dealing with blood, while I can see him down there filming the whole birth!

[FSUSammy]

Loud_curly - Your DH sounds a lot like mine. Mine used to want to be a cardiothorasic surgeon and did rounds with one when he was a teenager, but instead of going to medical school he became a software engineer. So I know that the only problem he might have is the fact that he's seeing OUR kid come out of ME. Other than that it'll be nothing for him I'm sure.

[sea74]

First I want to say that for all those waiting to test and all those who are waiting to catch that egg, I wish you luck.

Secondly, threadmistress, can you please remove me. I have just accepted a new job and will NOT be trying for at least 4-5 months so that I'm covered by STD and will have been employed long enough for paid maternity leave.

I'm bummed but I know this is a smart move for me to make at this time.

I'll most likely be lurking and will certainly be rooting for each of you!

[polkadot]

awwww...sea...you just joined us...sorry to see you go...I wish you luck in the new job...and I guess God really does have a plan for each of us...you didnt get pg last cycle and now we know why. ;) Good Luck with the new job!!

as for me...well I am thinking that maybe I havent Oed yet, my temps are high ...i started temping two days ago...obsessive much :rolleyes: so much for the break...but i am still having lots of EWCM...so we have decided to have sex when we feel like it and then if we get pg GREAT and if not then next cycle...we go for the gold so to speak..thanks for all the happy thougths girls.!!

[FSUSammy]

sea74 - Good luck with the new job! Sorry to see you leave so soon.

SQ2 - Where are you??? Have you tested again? Your chart is looking mighty pretty.

[cat_loverpq]

sea74 ~ Congrats on your new job! I hope the next 5 months fly by for you!

[ADSigMel]

Granada - I love grapefruit juice, so if anything, I probably drink too much of it, LOL. It doesn't seem to affect my CM at all, though.

Sea74 - Sorry you won't be TTC with s for a while, but congratulations on your new job!

polkadot - Yay! I'm glad you're with us again!

As for me, my OPK is still negative, and my CM is still dry, even though I've been drinking tons of green tea. I guess it really is dried up, not just poor quality. :( I still haven't seen a temp shift, but I'm hoping I missed the positive OPK and my temp will jump tomorrow. The BD fest will continue tonight. CP still looking pretty fertile, so I really hope to see a temp shift very soon.

[SQ2]

Well, it's 5am, 15DPO, and I'm greeted by yet another BFN. http://www.kenandkeli.com/images/smilies/confused.gif And my temp is still up too (higher even - although I took it a little before 5am and Ovusoft adjusted it since I usually temp at 6:30am - yeah, haven't been able to sleep in until then in awhile. :rolleyes: )I just don't understand what's going on. Everything (except these stupid tests) is telling me I'm pregnant. Could I not be as far along in my LP as I think or something? Am I taking the tests wrong? I keep looking, straining my eyes to see if there's a 2nd line there. I probably should wait until Friday now to test, huh. But c'mon, tomorrow is 16DPO. My longest LP to date has been 14 days. I just don't understand. http://www.kenandkeli.com/images/smilies/upset.gif

ETA ~ I think what's upseting me the most right now is that my symptoms are so different than any other month, plus my temp keeps getting higher. It would make more sense to keep getting BFNs if I felt the same as other months and my temp was going down, KWIM? BUt I think with the chart and symptoms I have (I seriously feel like an water balloon is going to explode in my stomach), anyone would start to expect at BFP by now.

ETA again ~ DH was reading the HPT instructions and saw that it says that if it's negative and you don't get AF within 7 days you should test again. As in, he thinks I should wait a WEEK to test. :eek: Um, by then if my temps are still up, doesn't TCOYF pretty much guarantee I'm pg? Saturday would be 18DPO. I told him I can hold out until Saturday. I really do feel bad wasting all these tests. What should I do?

[Cosmogirl]

Good early morning ladies.
No time for shout outs, I'm just a little floored this morning. I think I O'ed yesterday :eek: That would be on CD 13, definetly a first for me! The bad new is, we didn't BD yesterday, only on CD 12 and CD10 plus I don't recall having seen tons of EWCM. I had loads of discharge yesterday in my panties, but it wasn't really stretchy...:confused:
We BD'ed this morning for good mesure but still...
I mean, the last 5 cycles we have BD everyday at least one week before O and nothing, so I don't see how this time, not even having BD'ed the day of O it could work KWIM?? Anyhow, we'll see what happens tomorrow...:confused: :confused:
Got to go, I just had to share this with somebody and see what you guys think...
Have a good day!

ETA: sorry SQ2, this is weird. Maybe your O day was indeed later, or your HCG levels are not rising as fast... Good luck to you

[numberlady]

So I haven't been temping so that I would kind of stop obsessing. Well, yesterdaywhen I temped yesterday it was high (like post O high), but I though maybe I had laid in bed too long part awake and part asleep, so I didn't really think much of it. Throughout the day yesterday I noticed that what little CM I had Monday pretty much dried up. Then this morning I had a high temp again. So I guess it is possible that I O'd earlier than normal. Damnit, why didn't I temp this cycle:mad:

[Jess71903]

No time for real SOs...actually I have been avoiding posting because this thread is so busy and I always feel like I have to say something to everybody...anyway.

SQ2- it is possible you O'd later. Your CM would be weird for a different O date, but by your temps, it's possible it was a little later. Hang in there girl!

sea- sorry to see you go! I hope the next few months fly by for you..I hope not to (STILL) be here when you get back, but good luck all the same :)

I am 6DPO. STill taking my prometrium, but my temps just aren't that high! I haven't gotten over 98 yet! I just can't help but think that pre-O temps of 96.8 and post O of 97.9 aren't normal!

[RobynScott]

SQ2 - I'm sorry for the frustration! Maybe you O'ed a couple of days later than you think? maybe where the fallback temp is? I wish I had a good explantation for you - I was fully expecting to come in here and see your BFP! If your temp stays high 18 DPO, and you're still showing BFN I would call your doc - you could be PG and just not showing up on the tests.

Number - try not to stress about not temping (easier said than done,I know) - it could still happen in the next few days, right? see what your temp does tomorrow - sorry for the frustration!

Cosmo - BD on CD 10, 12 and 14 with O on CD 13 sounds pretty good to me!

Sorry I don't have time for any more SO's - I'm here. CD 2, Waiting to O. - so, at least I got out of limbo yesterday :) I wasn't upset by AF - I think I'm more upset by the stupid spotting than the actual appearance of AF. This month is pretty much out b/c of my travel schedule.

Which puts us into Nov (Aug due date) - we have 1 wedding in July (DH is in) and 2 weddings (w/travel) in Aug and DH will probably be in one of those as well. I have an arbitration in September that would probably be the first one I try myself. So, I am not going to put off TTC (b/c who knows how long it will take, no matter what?) - but I am going to try and just see what happens as I chart (I still like charting) - and try not to be as serious about TTC till January or so. BY then, it will have been almost 6 months anyway.

We'll see if I'm actually able to follow through on this keeping it :cool: plan - but for now, that's what I'll hope for. Of course, if I get PG in the interim, I certainly wouldn't complain ;)

Have a great day all!

[kanga1622]

Chris~n~Jen - We visited friends in the hospital here after they had their baby. When you walk into the hospital room there is like a foyer type space that has just enough room for 2 chairs, then there is a door to the actual room. I was joking that DH would be sitting in those chairs when it came time for me to deliver. DH said that was too close! I wouldn't be surprised if he left the hospital. He is grossed out by anything blood related. I'm just hoping he can be there during the labor and then he can leave for the delivery. If he is there for the delivery I'll be more worried about him passing out or throwing up than I will be about the baby.

RobynScott - We started out trying to plan out due dates as well. My resolve didn't last long though.:p It is so hard trying to plan around all those life events that we finally just gave up and kept TTC as usual.

FF is smoking something on my chart. It gave me an O date and my temp is quickly dropping. I haven't thrown out the last 3 days of temps yet but I probably will before long. On the plus side, my temp is coming back to my usual pre-O range and I guess that means I'm getting better. Hopefully I can kick this bug before the weekend since it is a nice LONG weekend. :D Now I think I might actually buy a regular thermometer so I can KNOW when I have a fever and not just suspect it due to the high basal temps.

[magrat]

My temperature dropped all the way this morning and I'm only 8 dpo, guess my cycle was screwed up this month. So much for all the vitamins I took this month. Just waiting for AF now. At least it means we can try again soon.

[DelSol]

I'll do some shout-out later on.

My temp jumped up a bit this morning, I hope I didn't O yesterday instead of today, that would be new O day for me. I'm hoping it was because of the restless night I had and when my alarm when off I started searching for my BBT and couldn't find it so I was moving around. I'll see what tomorrow's temp does. Darn it why couldn't I get a good nights rest last night?!?!?! :mad: I’m blaming DH on this one since he was the root of my restless night.

[FSUSammy]

ADSigMel - Sorry you never got a pos. OPK. Hopefully your body really did O instead of just gearing up to and NOT.

SQ2 - I was looking at your chart last night and it looks like Ovusoft called O too early in my opinion since the on 2 DPO you had a drop in temp. I'd call O a few days later. Unfortunately I can't tell you when because my work blocks Ovusoft's website for some reason. So worst case scenario you O'd a few days later than you thought. Definitely wait until Saturday to test again. And ditto what Robyn said, some people never test positive in urine tests.

Cosmogirl - If you did O yesterday then there is still a chance that you caught the egg. Good luck!

Jess - Some people have low temps naturally. Are your temps usually this low?

magrat - Could the drop be an implantation drop?

me - 9 DPO today. My temp went up by .1 today so I feel better that its not heading down. Hopefully it will go even higher. I've seen way too many PG charts where the temps keep going up and up and up, yet might are pretty much level. Is that ok? No new FPS symptoms. Just the same that I've been having lately. My mom INSISTS that I test already but I keep telling her its too soon. I told her I don't want to test and get a BFN only to have to test again in a few days. I just need to hold off a few more days!

Sam

[Loud_curly]

SQ2 - I can't believe you got a BFN - I was really thinking you'd be the first this month to get a BFP. Maybe you O'd a few days after your chart called - it doesn't match with your CM, but even a day or 2 would put you at 12-13 DPO. Hope your temps go up and you're rewarded with a BFP soon! (((Hugs)))

Sea74 - Good luck with the new job!

ADSigMel - Hope your temp jumped this morning!

Jess - I wouldn't worry too much about the actual temp # - it could be that you're not finding the "hot zone" in your mouth, or you just have a lower body temp. Your trend looks great though - there's a very clear distinction between your pre-O and post-O temps.

Cosmogirl - Your timing is still really good, even if you missed the actual O day. Many people get pg from one BD session outside of your times. Keep your chin up!

Robyn - I understand all about planning the due date. I always wanted a spring baby - I was born in the fall, and DH right before Christmas, and I was envious of those kids who had birthdays late in the school year and in warm weather. Of course, I'm pretty much out on the spring baby as well now, although the end of June would be just fine. ;)

Magrat- Maybe the temp is a one-time fluke?

Kanga - Hope you feel better soon!

Delsol - Boo to your DH! Even if you did O yesterday, you still had good BD timing. Maybe today is the temp rise before the O-temp dip?

Well, I think I covered most of you - sorry if I missed a SO.

Me, at 6 or 7 DPO. My temp went up again today, *but* I woke up at 4:15 to pee and didn't fall back to sleep right away. I temped at 6:45 as usual, but that activity might have raised my temp a bit. Maybe I'll be able to sleep through the night tonight? No FPS here yet, and I'm trying not to make any up in my head! I am tired, but that's b/c I never seem to get enough sleep during the week and always seem to play catch up during the weekend :rolleyes:

[DelSol]

Loud_curly ~ you could be right. I looked at my past charts and there is slight rise before O and then dips down but I was thinking that happened on CD11, either way I'm hoping our timing is good. Boo on DH kept me awake until 1AM, playing his music in the next room.


Plus I think I am either having allergies or I am getting his cold, the one side of my nose is stuffed and I can't breathe through it. Please let it stay away for another day or so..... http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/sick010.gif

[katiems118]

SQ2- do you think that perhaps you O'ed on CD 19 instead of CD 17? FF still has you with dotted lines, what happens if you discard the lower temp after O?....I dont know what else to say, seems to me it looks like a pg chart!

[Chris~n~Jen]

Secondly, threadmistress, can you please remove me. I have just accepted a new job and will NOT be trying for at least 4-5 months so that I'm covered by STD and will have been employed long enough for paid maternity leave.
Sorry to see you go! Good luck with the new job. I also just accepted a new job and we also talked about not trying for a while but we've decided against it since my new job is going to be very flexible and partially working from home so maternity leave won't be as important. Keep in touch with us and let us know how your doing.

As for me, my OPK is still negative, and my CM is still dry, even though I've been drinking tons of green tea. I guess it really is dried up, not just poor quality. :( I still haven't seen a temp shift, but I'm hoping I missed the positive OPK and my temp will jump tomorrow. The BD fest will continue tonight. CP still looking pretty fertile, so I really hope to see a temp shift very soon.
Sorry things are confusing right now. Only once did I ever get an actual positive OPK. A while back someone in here told us that her doctor said to mark the darkest test line as positive because a lot of girls don't actually get the test line to be darker than the control line. Does that make sense?

Well, it's 5am, 15DPO, and I'm greeted by yet another BFN. http://www.kenandkeli.com/images/smilies/confused.gif And my temp is still up too (higher even - although I took it a little before 5am and Ovusoft adjusted it since I usually temp at 6:30am - yeah, haven't been able to sleep in until then in awhile. )I just don't understand what's going on.
Oh, hun sorry about the BFN. I agree that maybe you aren't as many DPO as you think. Sorry it's so confusing. I'd say test this weekend if still no AF and if you get another BFN then call the doctor on Monday. All my fingers and toes are crossed for you. Lots of positive thoughts being sent your way.

I'm just a little floored this morning. I think I O'ed yesterday :eek: That would be on CD 13, definetly a first for me! The bad new is, we didn't BD yesterday, only on CD 12 and CD10
Hmm, I think CD 10,12,&14 BD is actually pretty good for a CD13 O. Don't get discouraged. It only takes one!

So I haven't been temping so that I would kind of stop obsessing. Well, yesterdaywhen I temped yesterday it was high (like post O high), but I though maybe I had laid in bed too long part awake and part asleep, so I didn't really think much of it. Throughout the day yesterday I noticed that what little CM I had Monday pretty much dried up. Then this morning I had a high temp again. So I guess it is possible that I O'd earlier than normal. Damnit, why didn't I temp this cycle
Yep, sounds like you O'd. I totally know how you feel about not knowing what's going on when you aren't temping.

No time for real SOs...actually I have been avoiding posting because this thread is so busy and I always feel like I have to say something to everybody...anyway.
I always feel the same way about feeling like you need to post a response to everyone.

This month is pretty much out b/c of my travel schedule.
Talk about a crazy schedule you have. Sorry that travel is going to get in the way of the most important BD fest. :mad: I'm really just coming back from a "seeing what happens" break myself. We have a lot of things coming up and I kinda wanted to just take a break for a while. You never know, you may end up with a little suprise!

Chris~n~Jen - We visited friends in the hospital here after they had their baby. When you walk into the hospital room there is like a foyer type space that has just enough room for 2 chairs, then there is a door to the actual room. I was joking that DH would be sitting in those chairs when it came time for me to deliver. DH said that was too close! I wouldn't be surprised if he left the hospital. He is grossed out by anything blood related. I'm just hoping he can be there during the labor and then he can leave for the delivery. If he is there for the delivery I'll be more worried about him passing out or throwing up than I will be about the baby.

Hee! Hee! I know that Chris will be in the delivery room. He wouldn't even consider missing it. I just know he'll be by my head holding my hand and trying really hard not to look "down there". I think I'm more nervous about him not being able to handle it than he is. He doesnt' seem to think it will be a problem, so I guess we'll just see what happnes.

My temperature dropped all the way this morning and I'm only 8 dpo, guess my cycle was screwed up this month. So much for all the vitamins I took this month. Just waiting for AF now. At least it means we can try again soon.
Do you mind sharing what vitamins you took and what they were for?

I’m blaming DH on this one since he was the root of my restless night.]
Bad DH!!

My mom INSISTS that I test already but I keep telling her its too soon. I told her I don't want to test and get a BFN only to have to test again in a few days. I just need to hold off a few more days!
I agree with you, I'd wait a few more days.



Whew! That was fun! Now that I've got this multiple quote thing down you all better just watch out! Hee! Hee! Nothing new with me. Didn't have time to get a new thermometer yesterday. I did take my temp last night with the old one and it gave me a temp of 95.6. Hmmm, so yea, not thinking it's working right. Maybe I'll get around to getting a new one, maybe I will wait. I've been trying really hard not to obsess to much and I think it's actually working. ;) AF is due this weekend so we'll just see what happens.

[ABirney]

Hi everyone,
I wasn't online yesterday so I am waaayyy behind, so just generic so's:
Good luck to those testing or O'ing soon, sorry to those AF found.
Well I emailed the dr and he went ahead and started me on the Provera, so took my first dose of that last night. He said we'll see what happens next cycle. I noticed on the Rx label he put 5 refills on there so I don't know if I'm supposed to just refill it on my own when I think I need it again or what? :confused: Hopefully I won't need to! Should get AF around Friday the 13th, hopefully it will bring me good luck for my next cycle instead of bad! :p

[cat_loverpq]

SQ2 ~ I think CD19 is a possible O date, and if you truly had EWCM on CD23, that could be your O date too. There's a definite temp shift there. I would say by Saturday for sure you should know...fingers crossed for you!

Dana ~ Your temp today doesn't look high enough to be post-O, so I wouldn't stop BDing yet. And I hope it's just allergies and not a cold that you're getting. Drink some OJ and feel better!

Kanga ~ I think FF just sees the huge temp jump and assumes it must be O. Once your bug goes away and your temps are back to normal it'll probably take away the crosshairs.

Sam ~ I think it's ok that your temps are pretty level. Everyone's body reacts differently. :)

Cosmo ~ I think you still had a good shot at catching the egg. Good luck!

Jess and Jen ~ Don't feel like you have to respond to everyone. We all know that everyone is busy, and I don't think anyone takes offense to being left out of a shout-out post here and there. At least I know I don't. :) Sometimes you just don't have anything to comment on, but don't let that keep you away!

[tealynn]

Just a quick shout out to those who are stressing! ;)

SQ2, I'm definitely going to say your O date was later, CD19 maybe CD20. I think were going to be okay here (channeling Tommy Boy). You still covered your bases pretty well and it puts you around 12DPO which is still early. You mentioned previously that you have had EWCM after Oing right? Give it couple more days. With your symptoms and temp continuing to rise, I think you might see a BFP by Saturday.

Cosmogirl, same for you little stress mess, you're fine w/ BDing on on CD11, 12 and 14. Don't sweat it. It's a pretty darn good timing. Just kick back and let the FPS begin!

Numberlady, sorry about a potential early O. It happened to me last cycle and it SUCKS. How was your BD timing?

Back to work. I'll try to catch up later!

[tealynn]

One more quick drive by after chart stalking...

Loud_Curly, WOW. You're working on a picture perfect PG chart if I ever saw one!

Magrat, if AF truly does show her ugly face today or tomorrow, you should have a chat with your GYN 'cause an 8-9 LP is way too short to sustain a pregnancy...which could also explain the CP you had last cycle.

[magrat]

Do you mind sharing what vitamins you took and what they were for?

I used to just take a women's multi which has all the folic acid you need, or sometimes I would just take a folic acid tablet which I could take without food (if I forgot to take my vitamin during a meal). Now I've switched to prenatals that have a lot of B6 which is supposed to lenthen your luteal phase. Also, my midwife said that getting plenty of vitamin C can help clotting issues that cause spotting. The problem with the super vitamins is the huge amount of iron in them which causes havoc with my digestive system. So it's really a commitment for me to actually take them every day :) I actually woke up a few nights ago with so much gas pain I had to go lay on the sofa a while, definitely not normal for me.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated To Here!

Good Luck sea74!

[honeygirl]

Whew, I know I say this a lot but it is hard to keep up in here! Darn time differences I'm always way behind when I wake up. :)

I'll try a few SO's.

SQ2 - When I read your post and looked at your chart I was thinking that you O'd later, around CD19. Then I kept reading and saw that great minds think alike since lots of other ladies said the same. Hang in there. I'd suggest getting the clearblue digital HPT's. Although it was hard for me to see the "not pregnant" it was better than squinting at lines. Also, I think the "wait 7 days" thing is for women that do not chart. ;)

Jess71903 - I think that the first month I took progesterone my temps were not much different. They have been getting higher as I go though. How many DPO did you start taking it? If you are interested I had some info from my RE about when to take it (and the problems of taking it too early), let me know if you'd like me to pass it on. I don't want to become one of those "my RE told me" ladies. ;)

magrat - Sorry to hear that the vitamins aren't working (yet). Maybe your body just needs to adjust after last month.

DelSol - Darn DH's. Can't live with them can't BD without them.

Me: I'm on cd19 and not sure what's going on. I seem to have dried up but my temps aren't very convincing of a O going on. Perhaps my body is going to try again in a few days? I'm not sure if I'm happy about this or not. Part of me just wants to get onto the next cycle so that I can start clomid. I feel like there isn't much of a chance of getting pregnant on our own, so why try? KWIM? However, if this cycle goes long then I have a better chance of BD'ing at the right time next month (b/c of DH's travel schedule). This is like a complicated logic puzzle. :D

[RobynScott]

This is like a complicated logic puzzle. :D

So true! Haha.

HG - I know you directed your prog response to Jess - but I would really appreciate too if you could post it. I have a prescription to start 100 mg of prometrium this month but my dr didn't tell me anything!

Thanks!

[honeygirl]

Re: Progesterone

My dr said that it is important not to take it early b/c it can "reverse the traffic flow" in the falopian tube. Basically bringing on progesterone sends the body the message that the egg has been fertalized so it stops moving traffic (sperm) towards the uterus. So, he said if you take it too early your body won't have a chance to move the sperm down the tube, b/c it will be pushing the traffic the other way (towards the uterus). That's why they tell us to take it 3dpo I think, so that we're sure we O'd and the egg had a chance to be attacked by spermies.

Now, if any ladies think I said that wrong feel free to correct me. :)

[SQ2]

cat_lover ~ I really did have EWCM on CD23. It was textbook, clear, and stretchy (just like the EWCM I had in that big patch earlier when my O was called) I guess if I O'd around CD23 I'd only be about 9DPO now. Of course DH was out of town on CD23, but it looks like we covered our bases, I hope.

honeygirl ~ So you think CD19 and not CD23 when I had one random day of EWCM? I'm hoping it was CD19. I do have a couple CB digitals so I'll try that on Saturday. Today I used an Answer test because I have a couple friends that swear by them.

tealynn ~ Yup, I had EWCM on CD23. Just a random day when I thought was a week after O (DH wasn't here so we couldn't take advantage but we BD both days around it so hopefully that was enough.) I really hope you're right about the CD19 or CD20 O day.

Jen ~ Thanks so much for thinking of me! :) I'm hoping all you ladies are right that I O'd a couple days later and it's just too early to get a BFP. If it's really 15DPO today, I don't know why I wouldn't have gotten a BFP by now with all my symptoms and my chart.

katie ~ It still give me the same O date (Tuesday, the 19th) if I discard that temp. But I'm hoping you're right that I O'd later.

Loud_curly ~ Hoping you and everyone else is right about my later O!

Ahh...ok gotta run and catch my bus. I know I missed a couple of you who resonded to my post but hopefully you'll forgive me. You're all pretty much suggesting the same thing that maybe I O'd later which gives me hope.

Bloating and cramping continues. I just don't *feel* like AF is coming if that makes any sense. I keep checking when I go to bathroom but no hint of any spotting at all. Plus the pulling, tightening, burning, hot, cramping sensation around my belly button is just raging today. I had this last week a bit and now it came back. Never had this before.

I'm going to wait until Saturday to test. Hope to have good news by then! I actually feel a little relieved today (just a little) because I know I won't have to see another BFN until Saturday at least. Haha. Anyways, thanks for all your kind words. Sorry I didn't have time to respond to what's going on with everyone else.

[DianeCourt]

WOW! This thread moves FAST. I feel like I'll never keep up! :(

I have a quick question....I decided not to temp while AF is here, but I see that many of you temp during that time anyway. Am I missing out on anything by waiting until AF is over to start temping? Looking back at my charts from two years ago, my temps were fairly erratic during AF, so I decided it wasn't worth the trouble. Let me know what you think.

[katiems118]

Diane-IMO I temp because if I dont, I get out of the habit of temping...I think its easier to just do it everyday and not worry about it, I decided not to one morning, then the next day I forgot...I think its a personal choice.

SQ2- Im testing Saturday too, hopefully we will have something positive to report...Im on the West Coast so it wont be at least until 7am Pacific time. Although with todays lower temp Im thinking Im out, hope not though

[gymwidow]

Hi ladies! I just wanted to stop by to let you all know that I finally got a BFP this week! It seems that IVF was the thing we needed and our first cycle ended with a positive beta on Monday. I had a second beta done today and my numbers more than doubled. A third check will be on Friday and then our first u/s is next Thursday.

You guys were a great support through our first year of trying and I'm so grateful that this awesome group of ladies exists. Good luck to all who are trying and thinking of trying - I hope you all soon get to experience this amazing feeling! :)

Hugs......

[honeygirl]

Congrats again Gymwidow! So wonderful to have one of our "cheerleaders" come back with such fabulous news. Blessings to you, your DH and your growing baby!! :)

[DianeCourt]

Congrats, gymwidow! :D

[risa00]

Congratulations Gymwindow! That's great news!!!! :)

[sea74]

awwww...sea...you just joined us...sorry to see you go...I wish you luck in the new job...and I guess God really does have a plan for each of us...you didn’t get pg last cycle and now we know why. Good Luck with the new job!!
Polkadot: thanks for that. I cried a lot after I accepted the job, but do believe that as with everything in my life, God has a plan and a timetable.
Thank you EVERYONE for your well wishes!
I had been interviewing for many months and DH and decided that if I had not heard back about the job, then we’d just go ahead w/our life in September and try. But now that I have the offer and know that I’m not PG, I had to take it.

Also, I don’t think I ever ovulated this month so we can use the extra time to figure out what’s going on w/my body. I have a doctor appointment in less than two weeks to talk about it.

Good luck SQ2 and honeygirl! I hope this is it for you! And Congrats, Gymwidow!

[Loud_curly]

Congrats Gymwidow! There's many of us who hope to meet up with you in the pregnancy threads!

[DelSol]

Congratulations Gymwindow!

[FSUSammy]

honeygirl - You were right on with the progesterone info!

DianeCourt - Nope I don't think you are missing anything by not temping when AF is here. Usually those temps are pretty erratic. I only temp because its habit for me.

gymwidow - Congrats on the BFP! Happy and Healthy 9 months to you!!!

[cat_loverpq]

Congratulations gymwidow! I was here with you last year (for a little while) and I know how much you struggled. Hope you have a wonderful (and healthy!) 9 months!

Diane ~ I'm with Katie and Sam. I temp during AF just to stay in the habit. Besides, my cycles are so weird that anything can happen...last cycle I O'd on CD9 which I might have missed had I not been temping! But it's a personal choice and I don't think you are missing out on anything by not doing it. :)

SQ2 ~ I think you covered your bases for any possible O date. Only time will tell...;)

[magrat]

Am I missing out on anything by waiting until AF is over to start temping?

Nope, I often do that too. My temp often stays higher than normal for a few days into AF and that can confuse FF. I get a prettier chart (low pre-O temps, high post-O temps) if I skip the first few days of AF. It's nice to take a few days off because I wake frequently in the morning and so I generally temp at least a half hour before I have to get up, but the act of temping really wakes me up so I lose sleep time. I know TCOYF even has a method for temping the least days possible you may want to read up on if you want to minimize temping.

[JayJay]

Just wanted to pop in and say hello to gymwidow! I literally went AWWWWW! when I read your post, just because I know how long you've struggled with TTC...I'm so happy for you!

Happy and Healthy 9 months to you!

[cowgirl]

Congrats Gymwidow I am so happy for you.

[FSUSammy]

RP from SWH:

Ok ladies. I need your expertise. LOL

When it comes to PG tests is there much of a difference between one that is 20 mIU or 25 mIU? I have two that are 25 mIU at home already but was wondering if I should make the effort to hunt down an AimStick Pregnancy Test since its 20 mIU. Oh and I might have been convinced by a friend of mine to start testing on Friday. LOL

[ABirney]

Hey ladies!
gymwidow I'm so happy for you! I know you and your DH went through alot for this pg, wishing you a H&H 9 months!
katie and SQ2 good luck testing this weekend! Hope it has positive results for both of you!
DianeCourt I temp during AF just to stay in the habit.
honeygirl interesting info about the progesterone.

[tealynn]

Gymwidow, that is amazing news!!! I'm sure you are out of your mind with joy at the moment. I know deciding to follow through w/ IVF was a tough choice for you...but obviously the right one! I'm sending sticky, sticky vibes your way for an amazing 9 month journey. Lots of luck! Please stop by occasionally to spread the baby dust around!!!

[SQ2]

Congrats, gymwidow! :D

katie Glad to know I have a testing buddy on Saturday morning! :)

cat_lover
SQ2 ~ I think you covered your bases for any possible O date. Only time will tell.... Gee, ya think I obsess much? ;)

Diane I temp during AF out of habit. I'm so used to reaching over for the thermometer I feel like it would actually be a lot of work to remember NOT to do it.

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You guys, I'm really really getting more convinced that you all are right and I O'd later than I thought. My symptoms have gotten stronger than they've ever been today - bloated, crampy, tummy on fire, pulling/ pinching around belly button, occasional shooting pain in my boobs, plus I feel SO tired. It came on all of a sudden. I was sitting on the bus home from work and just felt wasted, like someone had slipped something into my water bottle. Anyways, I have renewed hope this evening and am feeling optimistic about a BFP on Saturday. Fingers crossed!

[polkadot]

gymwidow~ I sent you a pm...but OMG OMG OMG I am out of mind happy for you...you deserve it girlie....H&H 9 months to you!!

katie and SQ2~ Good luck to both of you...we need some BFP's in here...:D

DianeCourt~I dont temp during AF, my temps are usually erratic, but i think if you need to do it to keep in habit I dont think it will be a big deal, its not going to hurt anything..Good luck!!

honeygirl~ Thats weird about the progesterone thing, since I actually screwed up last cycle and took one of my progesterone pills the day I Oed, so I guess you never can tell, especially since I actually got Pg that cycle...

One of my friends from school brought me a book called Conquering Infertility, I am going to start reading it tonight...Its from her cousin who has been going through infertility issues for the last 3 years, she did IVF for the
3rd time and she is now PG with TRIPLETS, all girls...and get this...she went to the same RE, I have an appointment with in November. I hope this is a good sign...

Ok enough rambling...We need some BFP's in here...lets get to work ladies, we need to break the record from last year...:D

[Cosmogirl]

holy cow ladies, you have been busy today!:p
Thanks for all that did respond. I cannot wait to see what happens tomorrow. I guess I'll know a little bit more. I'm still going to keep covering my bases and BD until I get my crosshair. But it has been 10 cycles I have temp and never did I get such a rise at this time. Only time will tell I guess...
No time for replies...Off to go and study...:rolleyes:

Good luck to the one testing soon, and the one Oing, catch that egg ladies, I'd love for us to break a new record!:p :p

[DelSol]

cross posted w/ SWH

I'm really pissed off now. My stupid ass DH doesn't want to BD tonight so I told him then we are out this month because I can tell I am ovulating today. He said oh we can do it tomorrow and I was like tomorrow will be no good. Unless he changes his mind within the next 15 minutes I am going to bed. I won't be very happy during my 2WW. :mad:

[katiems118]

oh Del sol :( my DH gets that way too, its like he's all for it during the 2ww, then during the fertile days, nothing...its taken 3 cycles to get him on track! Hopefully he will change his mind for you!

[polkadot]

DelSol~ I hate that...so sorry DH is being a butt head...hopefully you can change his mind....Good luck...

I started reading that book and its pretty good...its about the mind/body connection to fertility and talk a lot about meditation, deep breathing, yoga...that kinda stuff...hopefully i can gain something positive from this book...

night girls!!

[DelSol]

Quick post before I jump in the shower.

I still might be in the game, my temp when down and I had some (or at least I thought) EWCM. He better be in the mood tonight, I still feel the ovulation pains.

I'm still mad at him and he's now going to get the article "How Babies are Made"

[melandtim]

Congrats Gymwidow!!!

Sorry to see you go Sea :( Hope you'll be back with us soon.

Wow you guys have been so busy the last couple days there is no way to catch up.

Sorry I haven't been around much the last week, I have been so sick. My fever kicked back in Monday and by the evening I couldn't keep fluids down so my doctor advised a trip to the ER for much needed fluids. Diagnosis after 10 hours, major kidney infection.

CD25 today and definitely not pg, they did a test in the ER and I am spotting. I am actually ok about it, I would have been worried if I was. It looks as if I may not have O'd again. But Dh's appointment is Wednesday and hopefully we can get a plan for him and then get me going :)

[Jess71903]

Jess71903 - I think that the first month I took progesterone my temps were not much different. They have been getting higher as I go though. How many DPO did you start taking it? If you are interested I had some info from my RE about when to take it (and the problems of taking it too early), let me know if you'd like me to pass it on. I don't want to become one of those "my RE told me" ladies. ;)

Ok, first, I don't care if you are one of "those" ladies. I like it! Second, thanks for the info! I started at 1DPO, but would have started earlier if I had listened to my dr.! She said CD 14, which was 2 days BEFORE I O'd this time:confused: . Stupid doctors! I will wait until 3DPO next time.

I just mention the temp thing because in the back of my head I remember when I went to the herbalist and he said I might have Wilson's Syndrome. UH, Gotta go get ready for work!

[kanga1622]

Congrats Gymwidow!

I lost my crosshairs today. WooHoo!

[Loud_curly]

Mel - Wow, I hope you feel better soon! A kidney infection - that can't be fun!

DelSol - Why are DHs like that? I point out to mine that "many guys would love to have wives that want to have sex all the time." That usually helps us along. Of course, with his schedule lately, we can only manage to get intimate when BDing and not any other time during the month!! Not that I'm complaining of course ;) Good luck tonight - he has no excuses! And your timing is still good in any case...

SQ2 and Sam - Both of your charts still look really good!!! Hope we get some BFPs!!

Katie - Your chart still looks good, but I know you're a few hours behind so we'll have to wait for Thursday's temp.

Polkadot - Hope that book helps - it sounds good!

Kanga - Yay for losing the crosshairs!

As for me, 7 or 8 DPO. My temps are still up - it went down 0.05 degree this morning, but I slept way more soundly so I think yesterday's was probably artifically high.

Q for all of you in the 2 WW - do you all get excited when you see your temps stay high? Or do you know that they'll stay high until right before AF is due, and just get excited around 12 DPO? It seems as if every morning I'm secretly cheering my temp on. Even my DH looked at my temp notes on the nightstand and was like "hmm, up to 98.4 - that's good, right?"

[FSUSammy]

DelSol - I hope you are still able to catch the egg!

Mel - Sorry about the kidney infection. Glad you are getting better though!

Loud_curly - Yay for the continued high temps! I get VERY excited when I wake up in the morning and see my temp still high. LOL Every morning I feel like I'm doomed and it will be the morning that when I see my temp it will have gone below the CL.

Me - Well 10 DPO here. Feeling lots of nausea, started last night when I went to bed. I felt it on my long 1hr drive to work this morning too. I was in the elevator going to my office and someone had food with them and I wanted to gag. My temp went up by .1 again today. Boobs still very full and nips are still very perky. LOL I was VERY moody and emotional last night while I was watching LOST with DH. I seriuosly teared up at one point, and it wasn't even sad. I figured for sure that AF was on her way because I usually get like that before AF arrives, is that a PG symptom??? LOL Oh and get this....I was on the phone with my mom yesterday after I left work. Apparently when my little 12 yr old brother passed the phone to her she starts telling him that I'm PG. I was like NO I'M NOT MOM!!! I haven't even tested yet. She insisted that I am. So now my 12 yr old brother thinks I am. And to top it off I find out that one of my aunts, that I confided in, told my freaking DAD!!! NOOOOOOO not my dad!!!! I wanted to tell him myself in person when I know for sure! I swear my family is like a bunch of fax machines quickly sharing news, when there is no news to be shared yet!!! LOL So to make everyone happy (since they are all on edge waiting) I decided I will test tomorrow at 11 DPO, if its BFN I'll test again on Sunday, and every two days until AF or a BFP.

Sam

[cat_loverpq]

Jess ~ What is Wilson's Syndrome?

Mel ~ Hope you feel better soon!

Kanga ~ I lost my crosshairs today. WooHoo! LOL! Never thought I'd hear that in a TTC thread!

Curly ~ I don't really get too excited unless my temps are still high around 12-13DPO (and I don't have any spotting).

Sam ~ That sucks about your "loose-lipped" family. :( How did your mom find out
you're TTC? Did you tell her? That would make me mad about your aunt telling your dad though. Don't people have any respect these days? :rolleyes:

[melandtim]

Thanks cat lover, Sammy, and loud Curly

Sammy - your family is something else. Maybe they are just really excited about the possibility! or maybe its mother's intuition?? Anyway, hopefully they are right!!! We need someone to lift our spirits from the depths of BFN's :p

ps my family is the same way.

[FSUSammy]

mel - glad I'm not the only one with a family like that!!! I already have my aunt calling me tomorrow morning at 8am to find out the results of my HPT. Damn people. LOL

[SQ2]

I'm laughing at myself because I was a tiny bit bummed that my temp went down a little this morning. But in the grand scheme of things, it's still way up there., right? Anyone else get obsessive about small temp changes that probably don't mean much? Why do I let my temps rule the way I feel? Ugh. But, my chart still looks ok. I guess I was just floored at how high my temp was yesterday. In general my post-O temps have never been higher than 98.4. You gotta look at the forest through the trees I guess. I'm sure it's all good. Hope to see another jump up tomorrow. I was so proud of myself I only woke up half an hour before my alarm this morning instead of an hour or two as has been happening the rest of this week. :rolleyes: This waiting is really draining my energy. I hate the anxiety of learning what my temp is every morning. Two more days until I can test again. Two more days. I wonder what actual DPO I'm at? :confused:

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FSUSammy ~ Your FPS sound great. Good luck!

Loud_Curly ~Funny, I just posted a little about this above. I get nervous before I take my temp...thinking to myself..."c'mon, be high be high" and then I get excited if it's high and really bummed if it's not.

melandtim ~ I'm sorry you've been sick. Hope you feel better soon!

DelSol ~ That just plain sucks. I hope you were able to convince DH to BD or that your O holds off until today. Good luck!

[katiems118]

SQ2-I am totally obsessed with even the tiniest temp change :)

Sammy-that sucks about your family, well hopefully you will have good news in a few days !

Loudcurly- Yeah I get excited when the temps go up, my DH says the same things as yours :)

Me- todays temp is the highest temp I have had, so far...I thought I was nauseated last night when I got up 4 times to go to the bathroom, (wierd but I think I drank too much water before bed), I think I am imagining the nausea since I was sleeping and its gone now...

Looks like tomorrows temp will be the deciding factor

[DianeCourt]

katiems118: Your chart looks great! I'm excited to see what tomorrow brings!

SQ2: I'm the same way. I think that charting in itself is obsessive!

FSUSammy: We're pretty secretive about our TTC attempts for the very reason you mentioned....I don't want everybody asking me each month if I'm PG yet! (We're already getting the "so when are you going to have another one?" questions all time!)

Loudcurly: You should defnitely be excited. My temps will gradually fall if AF is on the way. The cycle I got PG with #1, I saw a definite difference right around 8DPO - they stayed up there!

melandtim: Sorry to hear you've been so sick! Hope you're feeling better now.

AF is winding down, and I'm anxious to get this show on the road. I decided to start temping this morning. I'm not very optimistic about my first few cycles post BCP because it took me a couple months to get good, fertile CM back when we were TTC #1. You never know, though. Ideally, I'd love to have a little boy this time. But I've decided not to mess with trying Shettles or anything like that.....we'll just get what we get! :p (I'd also be ecstatic with a house full of little girls!)

[FSUSammy]

SQ2 - You are too funny. I'm sooooo like you. I was disappointed 2 days ago when my temp was down. I felt like AF was definitely on her way. But now its back up. Granted I'd love to have my temps as high as yours are. My highest temp post-O EVER has been 98.3, right now this cycle I'm at 98.2. Hang in their girlie. Hopefully we'll have a weekend full of BFPs on this board! Are you feeling any nausea or peeing often?

Katie - Yay for the high temp! So you are still planning on testing on Saturday?

Diane - Yeah I was trying to keep it secretive but they all know how I've had a VERY long cycle, haven't had AF since the end of July. So they've all thought I was PG already, but I had to tell them NOOOOOOO I JUST O'd. LOL There is no use keeping secrets in my fam though, they usually ALWAYS figure it out. LOL

[SQ2]

Are you feeling any nausea or peeing often? Nope. But lots of other symptoms, bloated, cramping, pulling, tired, etc. (I described in more detail in a previous post I think.) I think everyone's pregnancy symptoms are different. I know a lot of people don't get nauseous until later or not at all. When are you testing?

[FSUSammy]

SQ2 - Glad you aren't feeling any nausea, it sucks!! I'm going to test tomorrow morning. My mom is trying to convince me to test tonight, but I'm just going to wait. If I get a BFN then I'll test again on Sunday (when I originally planned on testing).

[DelSol]

melandtim ~ I hope you feel better soon. Do you think this is a result of the UTI? I have an Aunt this happened too.

Loud_curly ~ no clue why men must behave that way. Thank you, I hope our timing is good. Your chart is looking good.

Sammy ~ me too, I got everything crossed. Good luck tomorrow, everything crossed for your also.

SQ2 ~ chart still looks good. Time will tell tonight if DH is going to be cooperative or not, it seems my O is holding off. Let's hope it holds off until I get home.

Katie ~ good luck tomorrow hope the temp stays up.

DianeCourt ~ good luck maybe you'll be a lucky one and get a BFP being right off of BCP.

Me ~ CD15 temp went down this morning but then again yesterday's temp could be fluky. I am having some ovulation pain so I know O is near. I was thinking of getting some greet tea at lunch but remembered I have a Chiropractor appointment at lunch and there are no convenience stores on the way there or back. I don't want to be gone that long for lunch.

ETA:for 2WW temps question: I don't get excited until 13 - 14 DPO. My past 2 cycles my temp likes to drop at 14DPO so if it is high after 14DPO than I know something is going on.

[honeygirl]

Good morning ladies! I am in the best mood (so far) this morning. Our kitchen is being torn apart by 3 men right now! :) Also, my DH came back last night and was, ahem, happy to see me. Yay for BD'ing. I really don't know what's up with my cycle, I had another small rise this morning, just barely over the coverline. My OS chart looks normal, my FF one (vaginal temps) not so much. I think my FF chart thermometer is broken. Thoughts?

FF (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ee424)

Ovusoft (http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=honeygirl)

SQ2 - Yes, I get completely obsessed with temp changes, even when I was on progesterone (which inflates it). This is exactly why I'm going to try HARD not to temp after O this month! You do have a pretty chart though.

FSUSammy - So I guess you have a very connected family? ;) It sounds like they are very excited about you getting pregnant. They must be supportive, nothing wrong with that. However, if by chance you aren't pregnant would it be harder to have to tell them that? My family is supportive, but I don't want to have to deal with their disappointment in addition to my own! I often give updates, but I don't let them know when I'm testing.

Loud_curly - Yes, I used to cheer on my temps through the 2ww and be very disappointed when they went down. However, after a year of charting (TTA and TTC) I've noted that the prettiest charts do not equal pregnancy. So, I've given up and won't be charting post O. I also stopped charting during the first 10 days of my cycle. I'm taking a simple approach in the hopes of reducing my anxiety about this whole process.

[FSUSammy]

honeygirl - I'd look at your charts but stupid work blocks both sites. Yay for getting your kitchen redone, that's exciting. My family is VERY connected. My mom says that they won't be disappointed if I get a BFN but I think they will.

[melandtim]

Thanks everyone for the well wishes!

[Chris~n~Jen]

I started reading that book and its pretty good...its about the mind/body connection to fertility and talk a lot about meditation, deep breathing, yoga...that kinda stuff...hopefully i can gain something positive from this book...
Do you mind posting again the name and author of this book. I'm thinking about picking up some infertility books and this one sounds really good.

I still might be in the game, my temp when down and I had some (or at least I thought) EWCM. He better be in the mood tonight, I still feel the ovulation pains.
Good Luck!!!

Sorry I haven't been around much the last week, I have been so sick. My fever kicked back in Monday and by the evening I couldn't keep fluids down so my doctor advised a trip to the ER for much needed fluids. Diagnosis after 10 hours, major kidney infection.
Ugh, sorry your so sick. I hope you feel better soon.

Q for all of you in the 2 WW - do you all get excited when you see your temps stay high? Or do you know that they'll stay high until right before AF is due, and just get excited around 12 DPO? It seems as if every morning I'm secretly cheering my temp on. Even my DH looked at my temp notes on the nightstand and was like "hmm, up to 98.4 - that's good, right?"
I used to obsess over every single post O temp. Now I'm not temping after O. I think it just gets my hopes up and then I'm much more upset when AF comes.

LOL Oh and get this....I was on the phone with my mom yesterday after I left work. Apparently when my little 12 yr old brother passed the phone to her she starts telling him that I'm PG. I was like NO I'M NOT MOM!!! I haven't even tested yet. She insisted that I am. So now my 12 yr old brother thinks I am. And to top it off I find out that one of my aunts, that I confided in, told my freaking DAD!!! NOOOOOOO not my dad!!!!
OMG I would kill my mom and aunt! :p We haven't really told my IL's that we are trying so we never get questions from them. My family knows and are anxiously awaiting but they are very quietly supportive. My mom never asks me about it. I'll usually give her an update every couple of months or so. It took her over a year to get preggo with me (first child) and she charted and everything. So she totally understands how frustrating it can be when it doesn't happen month after month. Good Luck to you tomorrow!

But, my chart still looks ok. I guess I was just floored at how high my temp was yesterday.
I think your chart looks great. It seems like we may have a very good weekend coming up in here. Your symptoms sound very promising as wall. Good Luck!

My OS chart looks normal, my FF one (vaginal temps) not so much. I think my FF chart thermometer is broken. Thoughts?
Yay for a new kitchen. How exciting! Hmmm, I looked at your charts but honestly dont' have any thoughts. Your ovusoft seems like there is a thermal shift but FF is all over the place. Sorry I can't help out. Even after all these months charting and chart stalking I am horrible at chart interpeting. :rolleyes:

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Nothing new with me. Never did get around to getting a new thermometer. Talk about playing it :cool: !!! I'm really just not even stressing about it any more. Today is CD24. AF usually shows CD25 or CD26. My boobs are sore which is a normal pre-AF symptom for me. Although last night I was laying in bed reading and I had a really sharp shooting pain run through my left boob. So that is something new. I have been feeling a bit nausous. However, I've had many cycles were I talked myself into feeling nausous, so not really putting much stock in that. Just waiting. I've got a lot going on this month that is taking my mind off of things. I just accepted a new job and will be starting there after next week, we are getting ready to move into a new house the weekend before I start the job. Our 1st anniversary is at the end of this month, and we just booked a cruise for the weekend after our anniversary. So I think all that will keep me busy for a while. It's actually nice to have something to think about besides TTC. :D

Good luck to everyone trying to catch the egg or about to test!!!! I'm hoping for a great weekend in here! :D

[katiems118]

Sammy-I am getting really down about this cycle, maybe its just my way of trying not to get my hopes up? I am going to test Saturday if Fridays temp is up, if not then there really is no point. Hope you get your BFP!!!

[ADSigMel]

Okay, I missed yesterday, so I'm not going to attempt SO's, but CONGRATS to gymwidow, and I'm still rooting for BFPs for everyone waiting for them!

As for me, my temp is still down, my OPK is still negative, and I think my CM might still be dry. I recorded it as watery yesterday, although I couldn't tell if it was watery or creamy (I didn't drink enough water yesterday).

DH went all weird on me day Tuesday night and decided he didn't want to TTC, he just wants to let it happen if it happens, but not actively try for a baby. He says it's because we're not settled yet on where we'll be living after I graduate from law school, and he's one of those people that wants to have life and work and a house and everything settled before we start a family. I sulked and then decided to go on as we have been. He said himself that he'd be happy if we got pg, so I'm going to selectively rely on that statement, and keep right on with TTC. In my book, TTC is the functional equivalent of "not TTA."

[FSUSammy]

ADSigMel - You are too cute. I totally agree with your statement. Especially with your history of LONG cycles its better to see what happens. If its meant to happen now it will!

[honeygirl]

Chris~n~Jen - Thanks for looking at my chart. I'm not very good at interpreting either! Wow btw, your month sounds busy. Lots of stress, but this good kind this time! Did you buy a new house or are you renting? Are you excited about your new job? Finally, where are you going on your cruise? I think it is good to have other things to worry about besides TTC. Good for you for keeping it :cool: .

ADSigMel - My DH went back and forth a bit when we first started TTC. It was SO frustrating. Give it a little time. Now, this may be NOMB, but is it possible that he's tired out from your TTC schedule? Maybe you should try every other or every third day BD. I know that we get tired out with a 10-15 day fertile phase, I can't imagine keeping up with yours! Of course, you two are still newlyweds so maybe it's no big deal. ;)

katiems118 - Try to stay positive! Good luck.

Anymore thoughts on my charts btw?

[FSUSammy]

honeygirl - I'll take a look at your charts tonight when I get home.

Jen - Congrats on the new job and the new house. Kinda stressful but a good way to keep busy! What cruise line are you cruising on and where are you going to? I actually work for a cruise line.

Katie - You stay positive until that old hag shows up you hear me! LOL No giving up allowed!

[cat_loverpq]

honeygirl ~ Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see anything weird about your charts. It doesn't appear there is really a shift on either of them...:confused:

[Loud_curly]

Honeygirl - I don't see a temp shift yet, either.

Jen - congrats on the new job and house!! Good for you for keeping busy!

ADSigMel - that BDing schedule would kill my DH! If you look at my chart, you'll see there's no other bedroom activities on it except during my fertile time - that's all he can commit to with more than full-time work, travel, and getting his MBA to boot!

Katie - I don't see any reason to get down about your cycle, but I understand your thoughts - it's a way to keep you sane. Me, I keep trying to figure the earliest day I would test if my temps kept high :rolleyes:

Thanks for all of your thoughts on temps during the 2WW - this has been so hard! Patience is nowhere near one of my virtues :o

[ADSigMel]

Sam - My thoughts precisely. For all we know, it might be another ten months before I ovulate again!

honeygirl - Yeah, ummm, I don't think he's tired, LOL. He'd seriously want to do it every five minutes if such a thing were physically possible. ;) As for your chart, the slight temp rise today might be a sign of an O yesterday (or maybe the day before), but you'll need a few more temps and a few more tenths of degrees to confirm that suspicion. Hope this was it for you and that you're into the 2WW!

[honeygirl]

Thanks ladies. I think what is weird is that my charts look so different. I'd prefer to believe the OS b/c it looks more like I may have (or will soon) O(ed). My FF (vag temps) don't look like anything. Sigh. This is what I get for temping both ways. I might just stop the FF chart b/c I think something is wrong with the therm.

I'll see what happens in the next couple of days and will try to :cool: until then.

[ADSigMel]

Did you have any particular reason for wanting to temp both orally and vaginally? If you're a mouth breather or something, then I'd rely more on the FF chart, but otherwise, I'd go with OS, since the temp there does make more sense when combined with the spotting and CM.

[Chris~n~Jen]

Chris~n~Jen - Did you buy a new house or are you renting? Are you excited about your new job? Finally, where are you going on your cruise?
No we didn't buy a new house, we are still renting. :( We do have first option to buy this house if we decide to and we are planning on being in a position to buy our first home within the year. I am very excited about the new job. I'll be working part time from the office and the rest of the time at home and that's perfect for us to have a baby. The hours are totally flexable and I won't have to be away from the baby all day. So very excited! We are only taking a small 4 day cruise. It leaves from Miami and goes to Key West (been there a ton) and then Calica, Mexico. We took a 7 day cruise for our honeymoon and loved it, so we decided to do a mini cruise for our anniversary. I'm really excited about Mexico since we've never been there before.

Jen - What cruise line are you cruising on and where are you going to? I actually work for a cruise line.Thanks! This time we are cruising with Carnival. They were just the cheapest and had the days available that we were looking for. MIL works for Princess and we took a Princess cruise for our honeymoon. She is stuck on Princess and keeps telling us how much better of a cruise it is than Carnival. But we don't really care, we just wanted to get away for a bit and not spend a ton of $$$. I think we got a really good deal and even got a past cruiser discount so we're happy. I don't care if the food isn't as good!!! :p What cruise line do you work for?

[magrat]

My mom never asks me about it. I'll usually give her an update every couple of months or so. It took her over a year to get preggo with me (first child) and she charted and everything.

Wow, I didn't know people were charting back then! Interesting.

[katiems118]

My mom charted with me and she got pregnant the first month, same with my sister...now my mom just doesnt understand why Im on the almost 5th cycle and nothings happenning..so every so often she re-iterates how much sex I should be having...it gets annoying.

Honeygirl, I put my FF temps into OS and OS said I didnt O at all, so Im not sure what is going on I prefer FF, but some prefer OS...I think give it another day and you might get a preferable chart out of one of them! Ive never temped vaginally, so not sure what the temps should look like.

[berry]

I actually read the beginning of the thread and realized I haven't updated my stats in forever. So here's the update

Berry
Me: C, 30
DH: K, 31
Married since: 06/08/02
Off BCP since: May 2004
TTC since: July 2006 (SWH: May 2006)
Charting since: November 2004
Known issues/test results: None

Today is CD 16. We just are not with it this cycle. Between DH not in the mood and the the yeast infection I just got, I have basically no hope for this cycle. Oh, yes and my thermometer broke last month and I haven't replaced it (or the battery). I need to get with it! I feel like I've fallen off the wagon or something.

As for the topic of discussion, did our mom's chart. I know mine did. I do know my mom charted to get pregnant with my sister, not sure about me. I know it took them 4 months to get preganant with me and 7 or 8 with my younger sister. I'm not sure if she always or did it jsut because it was taking longer.

Good luck to all of those testing this weekend!

[cat_loverpq]

...every so often she re-iterates how much sex I should be having...

LOL!! I could not imagine discussing that with my mom! Charting, yes. How often we have sex, no. :D

[granada]

Yeah, now I am curious about how my parents conceived my brother and me, but um, I don't want to go there. :o

Question for you ladies: This may be a very stupid TTC rookie question :o but I've been looking at the chart gallery over on FF, and I noticed people chart and use OPKs. I was not planning to use OPKs, but please tell me if there is any reason to. I've charted for a while, and I do have a good idea when I O, and I usually have a pretty noticeable temp shift. Is there any reason I should also do OPKs?

[FSUSammy]

granada - Since charting usually tells you that you O'd its typically too late at that point (once you have your temp shift) to catch the egg. So some people use OPKs, especially if they have irregular cycles, to help pinpoint when they O. If you are able to tell you are about to O based on cervical position and fluid alone then you are fine,or if you are very regular then you really have no need for an OPK.

[granada]

Ok, thanks, FSUSammy! That's what I thought, but I just wanted to make sure I'm not missing something.

[Jess71903]

Jess ~ What is Wilson's Syndrome?
you can go here for more infoWilson's Syndrome (www.wilsonssyndrome.com). It's basically low body temperature. It can't be tested like thyroid levels can, because it's something that happens, or doesn't, in the cells. Basically you have to find a dr. that treats it, try the protocol, and if it works, you have it.

I just accepted a new job and will be starting there after next week, we are getting ready to move into a new house the weekend before I start the job. Our 1st anniversary is at the end of this month, and we just booked a cruise for the weekend after our anniversary. So I think all that will keep me busy for a while. It's actually nice to have something to think about besides TTC. :D
Wow! You do have lots going on! The cruise sounds great! I am like you on the excitement in the 2WW. Basically, I have been disappointed 14 times, so that potential excitement has worn off.


DH went all weird on me day Tuesday night and decided he didn't want to TTC, he just wants to let it happen if it happens, but not actively try for a baby. He says it's because we're not settled yet on where we'll be living after I graduate from law school, and he's one of those people that wants to have life and work and a house and everything settled before we start a family. I sulked and then decided to go on as we have been. He said himself that he'd be happy if we got pg, so I'm going to selectively rely on that statement, and keep right on with TTC. In my book, TTC is the functional equivalent of "not TTA."
Totally agree. My DH is like that too- very "practical" and quite a planner. Problem is that it takes 9 months to grow a baby, and we didn't start TTC until he was ready to have one here. Well, this is cycle #15 and still nothing. We had a TTC date that we agreed on, then when it came, he backed out and put it off for a few more months. Anyway, if he said he would be ok with an "oops" and you have long weird cycles anyway, I say just SWH (the SWH group is great too, BTW). I wouldn't try to deceive him at all, but it sounds like he is fine with that.

[Cosmogirl]

Holy Molly ladies!!!:eek: You guys really are keeping busy lately! If we don't beat a record as far as BFP, we might brake one as far as number of posts a day:p

Chris and Jen: before I start anserwing to everybody, PLEASE tell me how to mulitple quote please:p :p


I really think I have O'ed. My temp went up again this morning to a level that it NEVER goes pre O. Plus I'm having tons of CM. It'll be confirmed tomorrow...
I'll be back later, when I know how to multiple quote this monstruous thread:p

[katiems118]

Yay Cosmo girl for Oing

I have a wierd thing-Im having watery CM, most of the day....when I put it in FF, FF makes the solid lines dotted....any ideas?

[honeygirl]

I have a wierd thing-Im having watery CM, most of the day....when I put it in FF, FF makes the solid lines dotted....any ideas?

Because watery CM is "fertile" and you have it after O, FF will put dotted lines in. Usually one doesn't have fertile CM after O. Don't worry about it. Actually, once I know I've O'd I don't bother marking CM, only spotting or AF. If you want the solid lines back note the CM in the notes section and leave the chart part blank.

[Jess71903]

Chris and Jen: before I start anserwing to everybody, PLEASE tell me how to mulitple quote please:p :p
I really think I have O'ed. My temp went up again this morning to a level that it NEVER goes pre O. Plus I'm having tons of CM. It'll be confirmed tomorrow...
I'll be back later, when I know how to multiple quote this monstruous thread:p
I'm not Jen, but I saw your question! Do you see the little + in the bottom right corner of everyone's posts? You click on those, and they become -. When you have marked all the ones you want to quote, hit "post reply" and they will all be in your reply message box.

I was gonna comment on your chart, but it's not linked in your sig and I am too lazy to go to the 1st page! I will do that after I post. Still having fertile CM is kinda weird, though, if you have O'd. It's supposed to dry up right after O. Hmmmm.

[DelSol]

Well my DH is still an ass, he still has issues. Telling me that everything has to be my way or no way, he has other issues also but I won't get into them. Which I don't see that is being true. I basically left it at telling him he has to make a decision as to whether we BD tonight and to give us a chance for this month. So I can only guess that the answer is and it will be no. He could surprise me and change is mind but I know my husband too well.

Ha Ha this just made me laugh so bad. I’m trying to get some information on a home equity line of credit. It’s my job to call the people and get information but as soon as they ask me for stuff and I ask DH for it, he won’t give it to me. So I just had one guy call me to see how we are making out to get the documentation and I said well it’s not working well, I can’t get anything from DH and he asked well and I said well he’s an ass. The guy starts laughing and says guess there is no beating around the bush and I said nope. I told him I try really hard but can’t get anything from him. LOL.

I can tell I have more ovulation pain so I know O is soon.

I'm just very depressed right now so I have no idea what the future will hold.

[ABirney]

Hi ladies...
Just a quick post to wish everyone testing this weekend good luck! I'm leaving to petsit for a week tomorrow and I expect to find good news when I get home Thurs! (If I go online... DH turns 30 Wednesday and I won't be home so we might celebrate Thurs... he'll be 30!)

[SQ2]

My temp went down again this morning. :( Yet my symptoms continue. No sign of AF. :confused: This is what I was afraid of. I almost didn't want to take my temp this morning because I knew it would either make or break my day. This sucks. It could be random fluctuation I suppose. You could still see a pg chart like mine, right? Ugh, I hate this. :( Today is going to suck. And tomorrow will be 18DPO according to my chart so OS is going to give me the little yellow duck saying that I'm probably pregnant. But, I'm probably not 18DPO tomorrow. It will just be frustrating to see that if I don't get a BFP. Ugh. Sorry to be such a downer. This anxiety is getting the better of me.

[RobynScott]

I'm so sorry SQ2. I know how frustrating it is. It could definitely still be a PG chart - do not give up hope - you are still way above your CL, right?

Sorry I've been MIA all - been working 12-14 days all week - will try and catch up later! Just popped on and saw SQ's post - hang in there SQ and try not to let it get you down all day. (easier said than done, I know)

((hugs))

[Loud_curly]

SQ2 - Keep your chin up!! You're still way above your CL, so this could be a random fluctuation. If you look at other pg charts on OS or FF, they have plenty with random steps, continuing on an upward trend. And the fact that AF not's here is a very positive sign. I would guess that today you're either 14 or 15 DPO, so another day might give you the BFP! We're all behind you girl!!! (((hugs)))

DelSol - It sounds as if you need some (((hugs))) today as well! Hope DH came to his senses last night! Why are they so annoying? As if a few days of BDing is a big deal - he's not carrying the baby for 40 wks!!

Cosmo - yay for Oing!!! Welcome to the 2WW!

Well, my temp went down 0.4 degrees today, so quite a shift. I'm hoping this is the mythical implantation dip, and that I jump back up tomorrow morning. I know lots of pg charts have a temp drop, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that my temp will shoot back up tomorrow.

[FSUSammy]

DelSol - Maybe your DH is acting this way because he's scared of the idea of having a baby on the way? I think you need to sit down and talk to him about it because he needs to realize that there are certain days during your cycle when this can happen and that if he's wanting to do this too then its got to happen on those days.

SQ2 - Sorry your temp went down. I know how much that sucks. Have you tried having Ovusoft recalculate your chart? It might actually change your O date if you do that. I can't remember how to do it since the software is on my pc at home but I can tell you when I get home tonight if you can't figure it out or want to try it.

Me - 11 DPO today. Took my temp and it was down and is right above my CL right now. I had a dream last night that I tested and I saw two lines. I knew I'd get up to test this morning. I had everything ready for me to test this morning. I got a BFN. I'm a tad disappointed but I knew our chances were pretty slim. It still could be too early but with my temp dip today I have a feeling AF is on her way and might be here tomorrow. So I'll probably need to decide with DH tonight whether or not I'll need to fill my prescription for Clomid.

Sam

[Loud_curly]

Sammy - Oh no, not another BFN today:mad: Sorry to hear about that. Let's hope AF stays far away from you!

[DelSol]

No BDing Wednesday or last night. I can say I am probably out for this cycle because I think it will take a miracle to get PG now. :( O was most likely yesterday, I felt it.

I'm really contemplating on if we should try in November & December.

My DH has me so upset and depressed, I really don't know what I will do. I thought about getting him a book explaining "the birds and the bees" but he won't read it. When we were in therapy, he was told to read a book about the 5 Love Languages and he started and never finished.

I actually packed an overnight bag and was going to stay at my moms but on the drive over there I started thinking what I am going to tell her, because she doesn't know we are TTC so I came home but even if I told her he has his stick up his ass like he did last August, I know what she would say. She would say you don't need this shit you are young enough to find someone else.

His birthday is next Saturday and I don’t plan on getting him anything, not when he is like this.

SQ2 ~ (((HUGS))) you are not a downer. It's just a frustrating time, when you are having all these PG symptoms and no AF. I'm sorry I don't have the right words to say to you but we are all here to support you.

loud-curlyl ~ DH didn't come to his senses. I can say I am probably out and won't be PG this month.

FSUSammy ~ I tried explaining to him what needs to be done during my fertile time, even sent him an email with an article I found but he won't read my email because he said he will not read anything I send him, if I want to tell him something I have to say it to his face. So I said you stupid ass it was an article about how babies are made and I put in there how very disappointed I was with you. He was like what were those other two days we did it. I said it takes only once to get PG but you need to try more than twice and if we don’t BD tonight then we are out and we won’t be pregnant this time either.


I sent this to my ex-FH, we still talk but DH doesn't know:

Remember how I said we have to do the deed on all those nights, well nothing because he didn't feel like it starting with Wednesday. So we were fighting yesterday and I said how do you think we are to make a baby if we only have a sex a few times? He was like what were those other days, I said you need to have sex a couple of times during your fertile time and only doing it twice isn't going to cut. So I said looks like we have another failed cycle thanks to you.

Of course I was told everything has to be my way and if it's not that I am not happy. He wants to sleep in the bedroom more and have me sleep downstairs so he can get a good night sleep. I'm sure you knew he doesn't sleep with me because I snore and then I don't let him in bed because he comes to bed at 3AM and wakes me up and when I have to get up and go to work. I said we will have to figure something out but I am not sleeping on the air mattress on the floor because that will kill my back. He starts asking why does my back hurt and I was like I don’t know he said maybe because you are carrying all this weight around. I said nope and he was like I think it is, you need to lose some weight. I told him that I have been watching what I eat, this weight is not going to come off that easy and he said well get motivated to do something about it.

So needless to say I am depressed.

I might give you a call, gonna be around? Or if you can give me a call at work


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From:
Date: Oct 6, 2006 1:45 AM


hmm, now what babee? you okay?

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Dana
Date: Oct 5, 2006 7:46 PM


My husband is an ASS.

That's all I'm gonna say.

I'm very upset with him right now.

I hope he rots in hell.


~me

[FSUSammy]

DelSol - What an a$$!!! Sorry sweetie that you are going through this. Here's is just my opinion on what I would do in your situation. You need to sit down and talk to him. You need to not email him you need to tell it to his freaking face! You especially need to know if he even wants kids right now or not. I had a friend of mine that got married and then found out afterwards that her husband didn't really care for kids, even though he knew she wanted one badly. This became a big issue in their marriage. You need to focus on your marriage and communication with your DH and him with YOU before you bring a child into this world. I have no doubt about it that you'd be the perfect mother but the last thing you probably want is to have a child and have your DH walk out of your marriage, this just happened to my cousin (her child is only 1).

[katiems118]

DelSol-Sorry about you DH, maybe you should just not tell him whats going on with your cycle, like dont mention to him your fertile days, maybe if you are slient about it, then he will start to wonder? Im sorry


Sammy-sorry about the temp dip, mine too

SQ2- if you are afraid of seeing the BFN tomorrow test only if your temp is up..and see what happens the next few days, I think its strange that FF, and OS havent changed your O date since you are already at 17dpo, something has to be wrong with that calculation...:(

Loudcurly-I dont think you have to worry about a temp dip this early past ovulation, :)

[Chris~n~Jen]

DelSol ~ I hate to say this, but I really think you are your DH should stop TTC for a while. You guys really need to work on your relationship and communication skills. Bringing a baby into this relationship is the last thing you guys need to do. It will only make matters worse, not better. I'm so sorry you are having to deal with all this. ((HUGS)) I hope things get better soon and you guys are able to work everything out. :(

[Loud_curly]

DelSol - (((hugs))) Wow - you're going through a lot right now. We're here for you, and I'll be thinking of you this weekend. Hope DH calms down and listens.

[cat_loverpq]

Dana ~ Wow, I'm sorry to hear you are going through all of this. I can honestly say I've never heard of a (healthy) male turning down sex! It sounds like your DH is pretty stubborn...c'mon, not opening your emails?! You mentioned being in therapy - do you still go together? Maybe that would help you to start communicating a little better with each other? :confused: I agree that putting TTC on hold is probably best for you right now. I don't really know what to say that would help, but know that we are all here to listen and be supportive. **HUGS**

[Jess71903]

Delsol- I am so sorry you are going through this right now. I have to agree with Jen. These issues are just going to get bigger and worse with a baby. It may look like you are just fighting about TTC, but I can tell there are deeper issues. Why do you feel like you have to hide talking to your ex from DH? Is there a history there? It sounds like you guys just aren't hearing each other. I am a strong believer in the idea that you have to work on yourself and do the right thing regardless of what your spouse does. You are the only one you can control. If he attacks and you attack back then you are both guilty in the others eyes and it will be a never-ending cycle of placing blame. Gosh, I guess that's more than you asked for, but I hate to see young couples in such a bad way. I guess you can take it or leave it. Again, I am SO sorry and I hope things work out for you guys.!

[ADSigMel]

Jess - Yeah, that's basically what's going on. I make no secret that I want a baby, but I'm no longer telling him, you know, "you're on duty tonight" or anything like that. That's probably what was making him balk, the thinking that I was just using him as a sperm donor, LOL.

Val - I think you've O'd, too, the signs look quite good. Do you think you timed BD well this cycle? When will you test?

Dana - I'm so sorry you and your husband are having problems right now. I agree with Sam and Jen that you might want to sit down with him and re-evaluate whether you are both prepared to try for a baby right now. It seems to me that ensuring the structural stability of your marriage is likely a more pressing issue at the moment than TTC.

ABirney - I hope you have a fun week pet-stitting!

SQ2 - I wouldn't worry too much about the temp drop. Your temp is still up quite high, and I do think that your O was maybe 2 days later than FF has been calling it, so you're a bit early yet, 15 DPO by my reckoning. Hang out until tomorrow, then try again.

Loud curly - Your temp still looks very good to me. When do you suppose you will test?

Sam - I'm sorry about the BFN today, but it is still a little early to be testing. If AF doesn't show up, how long will you wait to test again?

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As for me, the temp is still down, the CM is still less fertile, and the OPK is still negative. :( I know it's only CD22, and that's quite early for an O for me, but I was just hoping for something a little more normal than usual this cycle. Oh well...if I still haven't ovulated by my gyn appt in a few weeks, maybe the doctor will prescribe me Clomid or metformin for the next cycle (or whatever it is that makes follicles develop faster).

[FSUSammy]

ADSigMel - Yeah I knew it was too early to test anyways. I'm more worried about the temp drop. I told my mom that if I don't get AF by Sunday I'll test again, that willbe 13 DPO.

[DelSol]

Thanks Ladies! Sorry for using all the quotes, just easier to respond this way. Sorry this is very long also...

DelSol - What an a$$!!! Sorry sweetie that you are going through this. Here's is just my opinion on what I would do in your situation. You need to sit down and talk to him. You need to not email him you need to tell it to his freaking face! You especially need to know if he even wants kids right now or not. I had a friend of mine that got married and then found out afterwards that her husband didn't really care for kids, even though he knew she wanted one badly. This became a big issue in their marriage. You need to focus on your marriage and communication with your DH and him with YOU before you bring a child into this world. I have no doubt about it that you'd be the perfect mother but the last thing you probably want is to have a child and have your DH walk out of your marriage, this just happened to my cousin (her child is only 1).

He always said he wanted children with me never asking him. He did say something yesterday that he had things on his mind on Wednesday night. I need to find out why he is acting like this now.

DelSol-Sorry about you DH, maybe you should just not tell him whats going on with your cycle, like dont mention to him your fertile days, maybe if you are slient about it, then he will start to wonder? Im sorry


My DH needs to be told when to do everything. He has no sex drive like a normal man should have because of the anxiety medications he takes. Come next cycle I may not even try if this doesn't get resolved.

DelSol ~ I hate to say this, but I really think you are your DH should stop TTC for a while. You guys really need to work on your relationship and communication skills. Bringing a baby into this relationship is the last thing you guys need to do. It will only make matters worse, not better. I'm so sorry you are having to deal with all this. ((HUGS)) I hope things get better soon and you guys are able to work everything out. :(

Sad part is we just started, we were doing great and them bam he does this. He seems to go in cycles where he needs to start something, maybe to feel in control. I really don’t know.

DelSol - (((hugs))) Wow - you're going through a lot right now. We're here for you, and I'll be thinking of you this weekend. Hope DH calms down and listens.

Thanks!

Dana ~ Wow, I'm sorry to hear you are going through all of this. I can honestly say I've never heard of a (healthy) male turning down sex! It sounds like your DH is pretty stubborn...c'mon, not opening your emails?! You mentioned being in therapy - do you still go together? Maybe that would help you to start communicating a little better with each other? :confused: I agree that putting TTC on hold is probably best for you right now. I don't really know what to say that would help, but know that we are all here to listen and be supportive. **HUGS**

Oh he turns down sex a lot because of the anxiety medications he takes, they lower his sex drive. So I guess you can say I didn’t marry DH because of the sex.

No we have not been to therapy since March of this year. He stopped going in May/June, I don't remember now. Funny this is I saw the therapist at my Chiropractor appointment yesterday told how everything was and DH was doing good, his business was good & he was now teaching his Inventor's workshop class. And her comment was well see getting fired was the best thing for him. I lost a lot of respect from her from a similar issue last year. She had told me bring up the idea of starting a family last October because DH was thinking about it. Well I did and the next time we were in therapy everything blew up in my face because when I brought it up he lied and said he was ready and in therapy said he wasn't ready and so on, it's all in my journal somewhere. So I personally would not go back to her.

Delsol- I am so sorry you are going through this right now. I have to agree with Jen. These issues are just going to get bigger and worse with a baby. It may look like you are just fighting about TTC, but I can tell there are deeper issues. Why do you feel like you have to hide talking to your ex from DH? Is there a history there? It sounds like you guys just aren't hearing each other. I am a strong believer in the idea that you have to work on yourself and do the right thing regardless of what your spouse does. You are the only one you can control. If he attacks and you attack back then you are both guilty in the others eyes and it will be a never-ending cycle of placing blame. Gosh, I guess that's more than you asked for, but I hate to see young couples in such a bad way. I guess you can take it or leave it. Again, I am SO sorry and I hope things work out for you guys.!

My ex and I were engaged to be married, we have most of the wedding planned and he got cold feet. We've worked our issues out over the years. Deep down the my ex still has feelings for me but he knows I am married and he hates the way DH is and he acts towards me, when my ex knows I am nothing but a loving unselfish person.

There are deeper issues, like our sleep arrangement and his work schedule but those things we can work on the fact that he calls me selfish, I can not get over because I am the most giving and care person anybody who knows me will say this about me.


He wants me to sleep downstairs, which is fine but I don't want to sleep on an air mattress that's 4" thick when I'm having back issues. We have an air mattress that is raised but I don't know if it has a hole it in. So I am thinking of getting a sleeper sofa, we don't have the money for it but I will bring this up to him. I told him if I am to sleep downstairs then he can not work in the basement because he will make all kinds of noises, especially playing his music. He didn't like that and he said he'd keep the music turned down. I said no will make other noises down there and I can't have it when I am trying to go to sleep. He doesn't think I understand about his work, he does not work normal hours he works at home from I don't know when until 3AM. So I told him you don't understand that I go to a physical location, I can not call out sick everything you keep me awake and I don't get any sleep, do you want me to get fired or in trouble when I go to work half asleep and I start making errors? He was like no and you need to understand that because I can not roll back into bed and fall asleep like you do since you didn't get enough sleep. He said I wake him up every morning when I make my breakfast because he's only a few feet way and says I don't care that he is right there sleeping. I said do you care that I am trying to fall asleep and you got your music blaring in the computer room, which is right next our bedroom or you have the TV on very loud downstairs and I can hear EVERYTHING through the damn walls? No he does not care. He'll turn it down but I have to TELL him to do it and if I don’t he doesn't think, oh it's 11PM I better turn this down. I can only imagine what our neighbors hear because I always here the one neighbor’s music but he turns it off by 10PM. DH is very inconsiderate of everyone else’s feeling, especially mine.

[katiems118]

Does anyone know what the difference between FF Advanced and Research Method's are? Is anyone better than the other?

I had it on Advanced and it tells me I O on CD21, I put it on Research and it says I O on CD 22, I know I felt pains on CD 22, but Im lost...

SQ2-what happens to your O date if you change it from Advanced to Research?

[FSUSammy]

Katie - No idea what the difference is. I usually have mine always set to use FAM

[tealynn]

I've been traveling for work so I haven't had a chance to check in until now...

Del Sol I'm sorry you're having issues with your DH. Sounds like he has some real control issues and even just therapy for himself might help the whole relationship. Can I ask why you are the one giving up your bed, especially if he's working late at night it seems like he should be the one sleeping elsewhere. I hope you get the help you both need.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for SQ2, FSUSammy, Loud_Curly and Katie for the next round of testing! Hoping to see some BFPs!

Jess, I know Wilson's Disease isn't funny but when you mention it, I can't get the image of Tom Hanks on a desert island w/ his Wilson volleyball out of my head.

Honeygirl I definitely think your chart looks relatively normal for pre 0 temps. Were you thinking had already O'ed? Or just that your temps are low?

Kanga I laughed when I saw your WhooHoo cause I know it was dripping with sarcasm. FF is sooooo fickle with it's CH!

Nothing new here. I forgot to pack my therm so I haven't temped for the past two days. It's cold, wet and raining here so it might be a good time to get the BD party started!

[DianeCourt]

Does anyone know what the difference between FF Advanced and Research Method's are? Is anyone better than the other?


Here's their explanation:

The Advanced Detector is our recommended detector and the default for all charts. We recommend that you keep your chart on this setting. This detector takes all your fertility signs into account. It uses the computing power of our servers to actually scan for patterns of ovulation on your charts based on the many patterns that we have encountered through our years of experience. Once it has determined your most likely ovulation day based on all your fertility signs, it then determines a coverline (the horizontal line across your chart) with a reasonable value to show you your biphasic (ovulation) pattern. Our advanced detector simultaneously takes into account all signs and data you enter to determine the best interpretation.

The Research Detector is our cutting edge research detector. This detector includes all new patterns and improvements as we find them. With time and testing, we roll new findings into the advanced detector when appropriate. Since this detector is continuously under construction, it can be unstable. You should use it only if you wish to check for enhancements that are not yet rolled into the advanced detector.



I usually leave mine on advanced. Since there's only a day's difference for your O between the two methods, either are probably fine for you!

[DelSol]

Del Sol I'm sorry you're having issues with your DH. Sounds like he has some real control issues and even just therapy for himself might help the whole relationship. Can I ask why you are the one giving up your bed, especially if he's working late at night it seems like he should be the one sleeping elsewhere. I hope you get the help you both need.

His reasoning for wanting the bed is because he feels he needs a good night's sleep without me interrupting him when I come down in the morning because he usually doesn't go to bed until 3AM so by the time I come downstairs he has had only a few hours of sleep then he gets up and goes upstairs to the bed. He feels if he can accomplish more because he will be more rested having slept in the bed.

In some ways he does have some control issues, he is a perfectionist but if you were to look at your house you'd think a slob lived there because he doesn't value the cleanliness of the house, he values his work more. He gets mad when I try and help my family members out, because they are incompetent of doing anything so they ask me to help them out with maps and information about vacation places. I know I go above and beyond and he hates it. He only does things when he is ready, if I ask him to do something for me he won't do it. Last week, Monday to be exact, I asked him to carry up the vacuum so I could do some cleaning. The whole week went by and he didn't bring up for me so I went into the basement on Sunday and got it myself. I didn't do it myself in the first because of my back, I'm trying to not lift heavy things and the vacuum is heavy for me right now. Now if I bring this up, he'll say well that was because it was something YOU wanted because it's always about you, you need this and you need that it always has to be your way or no way. He'll put a twist on it somehow.

Sorry I am writing a book again.

I'm hoping he goes to his mom's tomorrow and sleep there. I plan on doing a major cleaning frenzy while he is gone, most weekends I can't get anything done because he is always sleeping.

I am feeling better, I had a good lunch with my co-workers who make me laugh. They don't know what is going on so it was good to just laugh.

[honeygirl]

katiems118 - Katie, I don't use advanced or research, rather FAM (which is what OS uses). Like the explanation says, Advanced uses the hx of other women, which I don't like. I like the FAM rules.

DelSol - I am sorry to hear of ongoing conflicts with your DH. The other ladies have given some great advice. I agree that it sounds like issues are deeper than TTC and that maybe you should consider putting a hold on TTC until they can be worked through. I understand why you wouldn't want to return to your former therapist, but perhaps you could find a new one. At the least it would probably be helpful for you to have someone to talk to on your own. Anyway, this isn't professional advice, just some thoughts. I hope that your weekend brings peace and clarity on these stressful issues.

Tealynn - I usually O around CD20-CD22 so I was figuring that I should be around now. In addition I'd had some EWCM but had dried up the last few days. I guess I was hoping I'd o'd, but my temp is still below the coverline, but with the sort-of gradual rise I'm a bit confused. Perhaps this will be a late O cycle again (2 cycles ago it was on CD27).

Me: CD21. Like I just wrote tealynn I was hoping that I'd O'd. I guess we'll keep to the every other day schedule until we know for sure. In some ways it might be good to have a late O this cycle, b/c it would give us a better chance of catching the O next cycle (b/c of DH traveling). I feel like I repeat myself a lot around here, sorry. I guess the scheduling issue is a bit pressing for me right now. :)

[Loud_curly]

Well ladies, I'm getting ready to head out. Like DelSol, I'm planning on a cleaning frenzy tonight and tomorrow. My parents are coming for a visit (they live in NY) to celebrate my birthday and take advantage of the long weekend. As a result, I'll be distracted (big yay!!!) and won't likely test until Tuesday morning - I don't know how I would be able to keep such a secret to their face! Of course, if my temps drop before then, maybe not at all - I'll keep you posted!

SQ2, Katie, Sammy - Let's get some BFPs, OK!!

DelSol - Glad to hear you got to laugh at lunch. I'll be thinking of you while I clean!

[DelSol]

Happy Birthday Loud_curly!

[cat_loverpq]

Curly ~ Have a HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

[FSUSammy]

Have a Happy Birthday Loud_curly!

[filmgirl7]

LoudCurly - First off, have a happy birthday! Secondly, our cycles our almost identical this month, so if we get BFP's we could have the same due date! I'll keep checking back and see how you're doing.

DelSol-I'm really sorry that you're going through such a rough time with your DH. You've gotten a lot of good advice here, so I"ll just say I hope that you are able to work things out with him! I know the feeling when you want to BD and your husband doesn't....it's maddening.


As for me, I'm only 9DPO but I'm having a lot of random symptoms at this point. This morning I woke up with sore boobs and mild cramping, which doesn't usually happen this early in my cycle. I'm also having a lot of CM, which I rarely do in the luteal phase. My belly has felt bloated or swollen for the past three days or so. I've also been so exhausted in the past two days, I went to bed at 7:30 twice!!! We will not test until at LEAST next Friday. Wish me luck!

[Cosmogirl]

My temp went down again this morning. :( Yet my symptoms continue. No sign of AF. :confused: This is what I was afraid of. I almost didn't want to take my temp this morning because I knew it would either make or break my day. This sucks.
Oh, no! :( I'm SO sorry you are going through this. Something similar happened to me a couple of cycles ago, I had ALL the symptoms of being pg, and also had the chart that went with it. I was so devastated when AF came. I really hope your O was delayed, and that your BFP is just around the corner!


Val - I think you've O'd, too, the signs look quite good. Do you think you timed BD well this cycle? When will you test?


I'm not sure about the BD timing. I usually O at CD 15. So on CD 13, I didn,t fuss about not BDing, because I was exhasuted, and knew (thought...)I still had 2 days ahead of me. So we BD'ed on CD 10, 12 and 14 (really early morning) This is my 5th cycles, and all the other cycles, we BD'ed everyday up to O starting almost one week before, and still nothing. So I'm having a hard time beleiving that BDing only the day before could make it work KWIM??
THis cycle I WILL NOT (I have to remind myself :p ) test early. Waist of $$ and it is hard to always see BFN...

I'm not Jen, but I saw your question! Do you see the little + in the bottom right corner of everyone's posts? You click on those, and they become -. When you have marked all the ones you want to quote, hit "post reply" and they will all be in your reply message box.


OMG thanks SO much! It makes thins SO much easier!!



Me - 11 DPO today. Took my temp and it was down and is right above my CL right now. I had a dream last night that I tested and I saw two lines. I knew I'd get up to test this morning. I had everything ready for me to test this morning. I got a BFN. I'm a tad disappointed but I knew our chances were pretty slim. It still could be too early but with my temp dip today I have a feeling AF is on her way and might be here tomorrow. So I'll probably need to decide with DH tonight whether or not I'll need to fill my prescription for Clomid.

Sam

Sorry about this!
I sure hope your BFP is around the corner too!!

Delsol: I'm sorry what is going on with your DH. I think you had lots of good avise, and hope the best happens to you guys!

Filmgirl: GOod luck to you! I hope these are the right symptoms for you!

Loudcurly: happy B-day girl!

Katie Hoping for a BFP for you too!

me: Good thing I have O'ed, DH and DS are gone for the weekend. I couldn't go since I needed some rest, and had to work in my school stuff... I'll be able to sleep in tomorrow!:D :p
So 3DPO here officially.
I'm pretty sure that this cycle will lead to nothing for 2 reasons:
1-We didn't BD much, so somehow this for me is not a good sign
2- but most of all this cycle is looking EXACTLY the same as another cycle I had a couple of months ago that lead to nowhere. It is scary how identical it is actually. And it is also looking a lot like last's month (which was also really closely looking to that first cycle I was mentionning) so I'm pretty sure nothing will happen. Oh well, maybe next month. I guess it was not meant to be so soon...

[polkadot]

wow...there is no way i can keep up with all the posting going on today....I havent been getting any emails about postings....so let me just say....what i can remember..

DelSol~ I hope that things work out between you and DH...some of the ladies have given great advice....all i can offer is ((((hugs))))

Curly~ Happy Birthday...

Everyone else who is waiting to O....good luck

everyone who is waiting to test....fingers crossed

me~ Still having fertile Cm and feeling O pains but my temp went up so who knows....

hope eveyone has a great weekend....:D

[SQ2]

...not to mention thoroughly confused... :(

Please move me to waiting to O.

[katiems118]

So sorry SQ2, hopefully next month will be better!

[polkadot]

((((((((hugs))))))))) SQ2..that sucks....:(

[ADSigMel]

Oh, SQ2, I'm so sorry. But this is another month and another cycle, and it will soon to be time to gear up to try again.

[granada]

SQ2 ~ So sorry to hear that! Your chart was looking so good, too. This is why I just want to sleep through the whole 2ww. It takes you through such a crazy roller coaster of emotions. :(

[sea74]

SQ2: I'm sorry :(

[honeygirl]

SQ2 - I too am sorry, I know that it feels horrible and like our bodies are deceiving and failing us at the same time. I hope that your time on this up and down roller coaster is not too much longer. Try to take extra good care of yourself this weekend. I wish you (and your DH) peace and comfort.

-Anne

[Cosmogirl]

SQ2: I'm SO sorry hon! I think sometimes we want this so much that our bodies gives us the signs that we are looking for.
Take care of yourself this weekend, and do something different, something to make you feel better...retail therapy, a massage, going to the restaurant...treat yourself.
Crossing my fingers for next month.



This is making making me even more want to stop charting in the second part of my cycle. But at the same time, I so want to see my chart when I get my BFP. I'm a geek like that lol.

[SQ2]

Thanks for your thoughts, ladies. I just can't figure out what went on this cycle. When did I O? What did we do wrong? Did I O on CD23? We didn't BD that day (DH was out of town). Was that it? Did we BD too much? Too early? :confused: WTF were all these symptoms I was having? I'm not kidding, they were SO different than anything I've ever experienced that I thought they could only mean I'm pg. I've never had sore boobs before AF. I've never had PMS symptoms start two weeks before AF. Makes me feel like there's something weird going on with my body. Or something wrong with me. Is it just adjusting from being on the pill? (I went off the pill almost a year ago.) I'm doing a little better than last night. I was able to sleep in for the first time in a couple weeks which was nice. It does feel relieving to have the 2ww overwith even though it wasn't the outcome we wanted. :(

Time to focus on this month. Two more weeks until we can try again. We aren't traveling this month so hopefully that will help with my stress level. DH will be gone for a night in a couple weeks (perfect timing, huh :rolleyes: ) but it's just a night. I just hope it's not on the day that I O. I really want it to work this time. I don't think I could deal with going through this emotional roller coaster anymore than this.

[FSUSammy]

SQ2 - I'm so sorry sweetie! I know about about to join you too. My temp dropped to the CL today so I'm not very optimistic because I'm also getting AF-like cramps. Hang in there. Hopefully this next cycle will be the one for the both of us!

[cat_loverpq]

SQ2 ~ I'm sorry. :( Try not to beat yourself up over it. You didn't do anything "wrong", it's just that our bodies will get pg when they are ready to get pg. Sometimes it doesn't happen even when your BD timing was perfect (see my chart last month). I know how badly you want this, but just trust that things will happen when they are meant to happen. *HUGS*

[Jess71903]

So sorry about AF SQ2! I hate it when your body deceives you like that!
Sorry about your drop, too, Sammy!

I am not sure what's going on here. I looked at my chart where I put in 10 days of "P" for progesterone. I realized this morning that I have one day left of "P" on my chart, but I have 2 pills left! I thought I had been really good at taking them and I don't think I forgot one, so I don't know. Maybe there was one extra or something. I think I am going to take it, just in case.

[katiems118]

Temp went up this morning...12dpo....I didnt test, most likely tomorrow if the temp is still up....

[Jess71903]

Threadmistress- I am still listed in the "taking a break" section. Could you please move me to " I think I O'd, testing 10-9 to 10-15". Thanks!

[RobynScott]

SQ2 - I am sp sorry AF showed! I know how you feel - out first month TTC I SWORE I was pg - AF was 5 days late, I was hungry all the time - all sprts of symptoms - and nada.

Like the others said - YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG -

It's hard to remember, but I think even if everything is perfect - we only have a 20% chance of conceiving in a given month - I try to remember that.

Sammy - hope your temp goes back up!

Katie - hope your temps stay up.

Sorry I can't do any more So's - at work again (was here till 9:45 last night) - just took a quick look before it's back to the grind for me.

Have a great weekend all!