TTC with Charting in October - Hoping October Brings us our Own Future Pumpkins!

[Jess71903]

QOTD- i take OneSource prenatals from Walley World. I like them because it's 2 small pills instead of one big horse pill.

ABirney- YAy for CD 1 FINALLY! I hope this next cycle isn't so weird!

DelSol- I don't know what to tell you about AF. I have to admit I am kinda baffled by your chart. Your temps are kinda all over the place, and I think it's hard to see where the real temp shift is, although I do think there is one. Maybe you O'd Monday the 9th at CD 19, but then your CM doesn't match up. I just don't know girl! I hope you get a clear answer soon!

me- shot #3 completed without any problem. I still hate it, but it's bearable. My last one is tomorrow, then I go Monday for an u/s to see how many follies I have and if I am ready to O.

[Loud_curly]

QOTD - I take the Target prenatal vitamins. I also have a prescription for prenatal vitamins, but they were going to run $25/month, which seemed really $$$.

DelSol - That sucks that you got a BFN! I'm really having trouble believing your spotting earlier in the month was AF, since it would be such a short LP for you. And there's really no other time for you to have Oed based on your CM. Really baffling - maybe test again tomorrow?

ABirney - Yay for AF!!! Let's have a normal cycle now!

Jess - Yay for doing the shots - you're almost done! Good luck!

Granada - I agree, we need some more BFPs this month - I think it's pretty much up to you and Tealynn. The rest of us are holding out until November ;).

Me - CD10. Gearing up to BD tonight, and then again Monday am before DH heads out on business.

[FSUSammy]

Hey ladies. CD 14 here still no O. I resorted to buying the CBE Digital OPKs and have been taking those in addition to my early-pregnancy-tests.com ones. Still negative though. I'm a bit depressed today though probably because its still negative and we haven't BD'd since Tuesday. You'd think weekends would be great BD opps. but not at my house. DH stays in front of his pc until 4am and I can't stay up that late seeing that I have to temp at 5am. Let alone, that's just too late for me. Well I'm hoping we can BD tonight, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

[ABirney]

Hi ladies -
jess Yay, only 1 more shot left! Let's hope you get good news at your u/s Monday.
LoudCurly Hope you catch your egg!

[polkadot]

QOTD -I had been taking One Source from Wal-mart but TMI ahead...they were making me constipated....so i talked to my doctor about it....and he said I could take Flinstone vitamins...so I take 2 of them each day and no more tummy problems...when I got my BFP last month he gave me Prenate Elite...they were ok...only took them for week so i cant say much :(

DelSol - Sorry about the BFN....hoping you get a better answer tomorrow...and yes, that chart is confusing.

ABirney - Yay for Af, hopefully the next cycle is the one!

Jess - Yay for the shots going well, i wish we could move to IUI but i guess we have to see RE first :rolleyes: Fingers crossed for you to have good follies!!

Granada - I am with you about needing more BFPs in here...we need a good crop of BFP's around here....:D

Me~ Cycle day 6, still taking my clomid, start my estrogen on Monday, hopefully it will help the Clomid headaches I have been having for the last few days to go away...and then hopefully I will O about the same time I did last month on the Clomid and that will be when we are in TN for the LSU-TN game...we will be on vaca in a house in the mountains of TN...i think thats a perfect time to concieve a bean!!

hope everyone is doing great!!

[DelSol]

Jess71903, Loud_curly, polkadot ~ thanks, I know it is one confusing chart. This morning I had creamy CM. I’m pretty good a spotting my EWCM and it was on the days I listed on my chart but after the O I still had some clear CM wasn’t really sure what to call it because I couldn’t tell if it was semen or not, so I called it sticky CM.


I didn't test this morning. I just have this feeling that something isn't right, last night I was feeling crappy again, just a blah feeling. I'm not an expert on charting so I went to Baby Center and clicked on their Ovulation Calculator for the spotting I had to see what my next fertile days would be and it's tomorrow until Saturday the 28th, so I am going to see what the CM does. I'm thinking of calling my OB/GYN tomorrow and seeing what they think of my chart and see if anything is wrong with me. Nothing can be simple, just when I was able to see a clear pattern on my chart this happens. I think if they can’t help me or don’t know what’s wrong, I may stop charting and stick to SWH because I am pretty good at spotting my EWCM.

[polkadot]

delsol~ i think its a good idea to wait it out....BUT...my doc said not to let my cycle go past 40 days, if you dont have a BFP by then I would call the doc and ask if you can induce AF and get on with the next cycle....good luck!!

[DelSol]

Thanks polkadot ~ I think I will call the doctor since I am at CD32. I'm noticing Creamy CM and I don't want to miss our next chance at BDing, you know? If we do miss it, I'm going to start a major diet and see if I can drop a few pounds and then start up again the end of December, I will still have until March for a 2007 baby.

[honeygirl]

Sorry about your wacky cycle DelSol. I think you should check with your dr, you may not be ovulating. I wouldn't stop charting just yet either, b/c if you're having some irregularities it would be good to see what they are (and to get help if needed). Sorry though, I know that uncertainty sucks.

I never answered the QOTD about pre-natals. I take One Source from Walmart. They've been fine for me, but it's a little weird to take 2 smaller pills (rather than 1 big one). Before these I was just taking a women's multivitamin and extra folic acid. I was sure I'd be pregnant by now so I started prenatals when those ran out. :rolleyes: Oh well.

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Berry ~ Best of luck to you!

[cat_loverpq]

Hey ladies! I've had a busy weekend with my parents here visiting, so I don't have time for S/O. To answer the qotd, I take Spring Valley prenatals from Wal-Mart.

Dana ~ I hope you get a BFP soon! Sorry, but I'm just as confused as you are with your chart...

Lauren ~ Did your doc tell you that b/c of your specific history, or do they really believe that no woman's cycle should go beyond 40 days? I told DH I was going to the dr if we aren't pg by xmas, but maybe I should be going sooner since my cycles are so long/weird...

[Amuse Bouche]

Well, it's definitely CD1 for me. I still have no bleeping clue what happened with my cycle last month.

I take CVS brand prenatals. I was taking Trader Joe's but they gave me terrible heartburn since I switched. These are coated and go down a bit easier. Sometimes I take an extra B complex and sometimes I take a folic acid supplement.

Threadmistress, please move me to waiting to O.

[polkadot]

Catlover~ nope, i dont have any weird long cycle history...he just doesnt think that anyone should go longer than 40 days without a clear shown O or a BFP...KWIM?

So thats why i called and espcially b/c the long cycle was driving me CRAZY!!

i need to check out those two pill prenatals at walmart...i am pretty sure that the ones i was taking were one source but it was only 1 pill...hmmmm off to walmart.com to figure it out

[DelSol]

Honeygirl ~ thanks, I'm going to be calling my doctor tomorrow and hope they can see me this week. I do want to make sure I am ovulating.

Cat_Lover ~ Just when I thought I had charting down and could see my pattern, my cycle throws me for a loop. Nothing can be simple.

Amuse Bouche ~ sorry about AF. Do you normally have short cycles?


One good thing for today, no headache or cramps. Now I just need AF or EWCM to show up and I'll know then if my spotting was AF. I'm still going to call the doctor and ask what happened???

BBT QOTD: How long do batteries last? I've had mine BBT for over a year and I wonder if it's time for new batteries or just buy a new BBT.

[cat_loverpq]

Dana ~ I can TOTALLY sympathize with crazy cycles! As for your BBT qotd: I've had my BBT for over a year and a half and so far, so good. If I get several of the same temps in a row I will test out my therm at some random time during the evening to see if I get a higher temp, to make sure it's not the battery. I'm hoping that it just dies when it's time to change the battery instead of making me guess. ;)

Lauren ~ I know what you mean, but I've actually O'd on CD45 and CD47 before, so maybe I'll wait until CD50 before seeing my doc. That'll put me about a week into November it looks like...:rolleyes: Maybe I'll get some Clomid and still be able to announce my pregnancy to our parents at Christmas!

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[FSUSammy]

Amuse Bouche - Sorry about AF.

Dana - I also tested my BBTs the way cat_loverpq does.

Me - CD 16 today. Temps are still low all and OPKs still coming up negative. We finally managed to BD last night. I was definitely experiencing some MAJOR clomid side effects over the weekend with the HUGE episode of depression that I had on Saturday and into Sunday morning. It's over for now. It's like a really really awful PMS-type mood swing. Not fun at all. Hopefully I'll get a positive OPK early this week. If I don't O this week then I honestly don't see the point in taking Clomid again. It's supposed to help me O earlier but so far the only sign I have of O coming is the bad o pains that I've been having on my right side.

Sam

[DelSol]

Just a quick post before leaving for work, I hope to get back later on today but my boss is back from vacation today so I'm sure it will be crazy.

Temp went below the cover line, let's hope AF is on her way.

[SQ2]

Please move me to taking a break. :( As hard as this is (especially given it looks like I'm about to O), DH and I agreed I have some stuff I need to work out before we start TTC. It may only mean waiting one cycle, but we want to be extra sure everything else in our life is ok and we're sure about this decision. Thanks.

[FSUSammy]

Dana - Yay for the temp drop!

SQ2 - Sorry to see you taking a break. I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision for you guys to make. Hopefully it will only be a short break.

Sam

[ceaserbride]

Anyone try taking their DH's temp in the morning? I was curious this morning, so after taking my temp, I stuck the thermometer in DH's mouth. My temp was 98.2 and DH's was 97.4. I told him it must be the time of month when his progesterone levels are low. teehee.
Haha, I did this too and DHs was much lower than mine currently is too. I was like, "Oh, you must not have O'd yet!"


I'm out for this month, definitely. I broke down and POAS (just to see) and got the expected BFN, and today I'm spotting, which is either the longest LP I've ever had or the shortest. It's reddish spotting though -- the last few months I've had brownish spotting for a couple of days before AF, so it might be CD1 for me.

Sorry about AF:(
I tested and it was BFN. :( On to the 4th cycle.

Sorry about the BFN:(

Well AF finally showed up today!!! That was a freaky wierd cycle.. hope that doesn't happen again!
Sorry about AF. Hopefully your next cycle is more normal!


Me - CD10. Gearing up to BD tonight, and then again Monday am before DH heads out on business.
Hope you had fun

Me: CD8 and just playing this stupid, stupid waiting game. Everyone please yell at me and reassure me there is no point in testing before next Tuesday!! And really I have *no* fps yet so there is no point! Does anyone know how early/late an implantation dip can occure and how much of a "dip" does it have to be to be considered?? Does it ussually go below coverline?
Akkk....It's snowing!

[kanga1622]

Prenatal QoTD - I just take a regular woman's vitamin and extra folic acid.

BBT QoTD - I've had the same BBT for the 3+ years I've been charting and haven't replaced the battery. I test it out occasionally during different times of the day and it shows enough difference for me to rely on it.

FF called an O on my chart but I'm not sure. I think I'll wait 2 more weeks before taking HPT if AF hasn't already arrived.

[cowgirl]

QOTD I just take awomens one aday or I was just taking a a complete B for the folic acid. I have tried finding prenatals at walmart but can neve find them might have look again.

SQ2 Hpe your break is just what you need and you will be back next month.

DeSol Hope Af is here so you can move on.

Sam Hope you O soon.

CeaserBrideI take it you meant 8 DPO. I believe that FF says dpo 5-10 for implantation but I could be wrong. I think everyone is differnt and you may not see a big dip. Be strong and hold out on testing. HEHE It is snowing here to and it is only October.

As for me I am cd 28 I had a some spotting when TMI checking CM on wed and thurs it was a dark brown almost black looking and my Cm have been for thick the last day or 2. Not sure if I o'd or not since I was out of town for work and did not take my temp. I believe I had some good cm and made sure we BD so fingers crossed.

[RobynScott]

Hey all - I'm back! WAVING HELLO TO ALL!

Hearing in New York went well - the Ritz was nice!

I billed (worked) more than 90 hours last week - so it was a busy week.

I've got a lot to catch up on here so for now, just saying hello. I have no idea how many DPO I am b/c I haven't temped this month - there would have just been no way to get consistent temps - and I don't want to start now and drive myself crazy till AF shows. I'll just start again next month.

I'm sorry for those that AF found (who didn't want it) - happy for those that did want her to show - and wish good luck to all waiting to test!

SQ2 - sorry to see you taking a break - you can still check out the thread if you want. I know you don't "know" me - but PM me if you want to talk!

[2 Crazy Pugs]

Happy Monday ladies!

I am confused- my OPK last night was positive, however my temps have not changed at all, been the same for the last 3 days. I do have EWCM though- so I don't know what is going on. We made sure to BD last night, and will tonight also and try to in the am Tuesday just to cover all bases!

Thoughts?

[FSUSammy]

2 Crazy Pugs - when an opk is positive it usually means you are going to O in 24-48 hours (depends on brand of opk). that's why your temps haven't changed.

[Loud_curly]

Caesarbride - Your chart looks good, but I wouldn't test until at least 12 DPO (I assume you meant 8 DPO, not CD8) if your temps are still up. Looking at other charts, some people have high temps the entire way through the LP, while others drop around 11-12 DPO (like myself). Good luck with the wait - you're almost there!

Cowgirl - Hope your timing was good!

Kanga - Wow, you'll wait 2 more weeks to test? That takes some real patience - I'm impressed!

SQ2 - Sorry to see that you're moving to taking a break, but I hope you get everything sorted out quickly!

Sammy - That sucks that you still haven't Oed on the Clomid - CD16 is not early enough in the cycle to be worth all the side effects! Hope you O in the next day or two. And yay for BDing!

DelSol - Yep, that was some temp drop. Really weird cycle you had!

Amuse - That was a quick cycle for you! Sorry about AF :mad:

Cat lover - Hope those cycles shorten for you! It sucks that you can wait for O in the time most people have gone through a cycle and a half. :mad:

Granada and Tealynn - Your charts are looking good. Can't wait to see today's temps! (Well, your whole weekend temps, Tealynn!). Let's go, BFPs!

Me - Well, DHs work screwed him last night by dumping a bunch of crap on his plate, so he left super early this morning without being able to BD. I'm hoping that I O on Friday (CD16 - like last cycle) so that we can BD Wed. nite when he gets back, and then Thurs. and Friday. So now I'm trying to stress a bit to delay the O ;)

[jessied1025]

We got DH's results back from the SA. Everything was in normal range except for the morphology. It was at 10% (the norm is 30%). The clinic person indicated that there were amorphous and vocoulated sperm head. We both weren't too sure what that means, didin't have too much time to look it up. The results are being sent to my doctor, so we are just waiting to hear back from her.

I did read that the low morphology is one of the big things for male infertility, but hopefully there is something the doctor can do.

Any input from you ladies would be great! Thanks!

[cat_loverpq]

SQ2 ~ I hope your break is short and that you get things sorted out soon. *hugs*

curly ~ Yes, mother nature plays mean, evil tricks on me. *sigh*

Robyn ~ Welcome back!

[ceaserbride]

hehe, ya sorry! 8DP0!!

[Loud_curly]

Tealynn - I was just stalking your chart - do I see the possibility of an implantation dip and spotting?!? Keeping my fingers crossed for you!!!!

[DianeCourt]

Hi, ladies! I'm back! I'm woefully behind with SO's, so I'll try to read through & catch up today. We had DD's first birthday party on Saturday and it was nearly a disaster, so I'm recovering now. (See photos here (http://www.constantchatter.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23831&page=40).)

I'm 5 DPO today and my temps have just BARELY been over my coverline the past two days. Nothing like my previous two charted cycles at all! If I had to make a prediction now, I'd guess that I'm not PG. I didn't really notice any PG type symptoms (fatigue, gas, sweating upon waking) until 10 DPO with DD, though, so we'll see!

[FSUSammy]

Diane - I love the photos!!! Hopefully your temps will start going up.

[tealynn]

Loud_curly, I got side-tracked by work before I could finish my post! read on...

Sorry to keep you all in suspense all weekend ;) We just got back yesterday afternoon and I had a lot to do around the house.

I was going to test today since my LPs are usually around 10-11 days but since I spotted briefly last night, I think it's only a matter of time before AF shows her very unwelcome face.

The problem with having relatively short LPs is that when you start pre-AF spotting, you can still hold out hope that maybe it's implantation...but it usually never is.

I was hoping to add to the BFPs in October list but it's seems highly unlikely...so I'm handing over the fertility torch to Granada!

[Loud_curly]

Diane - Wow, that party looked fabulous!!! Wish I was a guest with that goody bag ;)

Tealynn - If your temp today wasn't so high, I *might* buy your story of AF arriving. I'm still holding out hope for a BFP for you this month! :)~

[granada]

tealynn ~ I was going to say the same thing. You might have spotting, but your temp is high. Don't want to get you too worked up, but there is still hope.

As for me, I don't know. I'm feeling pretty much the same as last month, bloated, starting to break out. And I definitely was not pg last month. So, we'll see...

[FSUSammy]

tealynn - Get rid of the giving up attitude right now missy! LOL You aren't out until the old hag pays a visit. Are you going to wait a few more days to test?

granada - when are you planning on testing?

RP from SWH:

Me - My 10am opk was negative again. I'll be taking another opk tonight when I get home from the work and the gym. I have been having MASSIVE cramps today. I'm talking, cramps like I've never had before kind of cramps. I notice that most of my pain is when I go pee and forget it when I try to stand up straigh, OUCH! I hope this means I'll be getting a positive opk soon enough.

Sam

[honeygirl]

FSUSammy - Bummer about the clomid side effects, no fun to be depressed on a weekend. Are you taking the Clomid only to have a earlier O? Hang in there.

SQ2- How very wise of you to take a break in order to work out stuff. I know that when we're in TTC mode it is difficult to step-off. Best wishes and hopefully you'll be back on board soon!

kanga - Your pre-O temps seem a lot higher this month (at least compared to last month). Any idea why? Hopefully you O'd!!

ceaserbride - Not everyone has an implantation dip, and many that do aren't even pregnant. So, don't worry to much about that. Hang in there just a few more days and you can POAS. Snowing huh? Crazy. It's in the 80's here. :D

2 Crazy Pugs - Happy monday to you too! Sounds like you're just about to ovulate, good luck with catching it!

jessied1025 - I don't know much about SA just yet. It seems like you're a step ahead of me this cycle but doing the same things. You could try googling those terms (amorphous and vocoulated).

Me - I'm not in the best mood. I started the day by dropping off DH's "sample" at the clinic (for his SA). I felt self-conscious carrying it in my purse and I swear everyone at the clinic knew and was looking at me weird. Sigh. I started the Clomid this am and am already moody but I can't blame the medicine, I was already feeling that way. This all sucks.

[FSUSammy]

honeygirl - I'm taking the Clomid to help with the late O's and the annovulatory cycles I was having. When will you have the results back from the SA? I hope you have better luck with clomid.

Sam

[honeygirl]

honeygirl - I'm taking the Clomid to help with the late O's and the annovulatory cycles I was having. When will you have the results back from the SA? I hope you have better luck with clomid.
Sam

They said that my dr would have the results tomorrow. I'm not sure when we'll get them though. My follow up appt with the RE isn't until November. Maybe I'll get a message from him ahead?

I'm taking the Clomid for late/weak O's. He thinks I'll O earlier, but we'll see.

[FSUSammy]

Stupid question alert.

LOL...ok well DH and I BD'd last night and I went to check my CM internally a few minutes ago and I found some white globby stuff and mixed in it was EWCM. And seeing that it got me thinking....hmmmm... it is possible for me to pull out some of his swimmers when I check my CM internally?? Told ya this was a stupid question. LOL I'm chuckling just typing this.

Sam

[FSUSammy]

They said that my dr would have the results tomorrow. I'm not sure when we'll get them though. My follow up appt with the RE isn't until November. Maybe I'll get a message from him ahead?

I'm taking the Clomid for late/weak O's. He thinks I'll O earlier, but we'll see.

I'd say if you haven't heard anything from your RE by the end of the week then maybe you should call them up and see if they can tell you over the phone. I've heard of several girls that got the results over the phone. I hope clomid works for you in making you O earlier and stronger. Just a bit of advice, warn your DH NOW that there is a possibility that you will have mood swings that way he can brush you off when you get annoying. LOL
Sam

[RobynScott]

Stupid question alert.

LOL...ok well DH and I BD'd last night and I went to check my CM internally a few minutes ago and I found some white globby stuff and mixed in it was EWCM. And seeing that it got me thinking....hmmmm... it is possible for me to pull out some of his swimmers when I check my CM internally?? Told ya this was a stupid question. LOL I'm chuckling just typing this.

Sam

Sammy - I think you're probably ok - I think the swimmers get on the way to their destination failry quickly :)

Hope you are doing well - I'll catch up soon.

[honeygirl]

FSUSammy - The ones that are going to make it are there within about 10 minutes (30 at the latest) of ejaculation. So no worries, if you get any of his "swimmers" it will be the lazy/swimming in circles ones.

About the moods, I think I'll warn him tonight. One plus to his traveling a lot in the next few weeks is that he should miss a fair bit.

[granada]

Sammy ~ I agree with Robyn. You probably just pulled out the goob that the swimmers swim in. :)

To answer your other question, I'm not sure when I'm testing. I actually don't have an HPT and resolved to only test when I know what the result will be. My temp usually drops a couple of days before AF is due, which should be tomorrow. So, I'm just staying :cool: until then.

Another possibly stupid question re: FF ~ Anyone know what those numbers in the stats line means? If you look at my chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/97800), you'll see there's a number "5" for today. :confused:

[JayJay]

Granada-That's the countdown to when FF wants you to test. If you're lucky, you'll make it that long. I know I have troubles! :D

[granada]

Ah, I thought it had something to do with that. Thanks, MrsJackson05! :)

[tealynn]

Granada, good luck waiting 5 more days to test!

Sammy, I'm going to agree with the other ladies that the good stuff has already headed for it's destination...

Honeygirl, I hope your side effects aren't too debilitating! If this cycle doesn't turn out as hoped, I imagine I'll be headed down the bumpy clomid path.

SQ2, I hope you manage to take of the things that are weighing on your mind. We look forward to seeing you back here as soon as you're ready!

I'm kind of in limbo at the moment...if my temp doesn't drop in the AM and the spotting doesn't start up again (and if the sun and the moon are in alignment :rolleyes: ) I might test tomorrow.

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We hope to see you back here soon, SQ2!

[ADSigMel]

I'm way too far behind for SO's, but I've been reading along. Sorry to those AF found and good luck to those still waiting.

I'm still waiting myself. It's CD39. No O in sight. I finally ran out of my 20-pack of OPKs. Never did see a +. I definitely don't intend to use them again. I can't tell you how depressing it is to see 20 negatives day after day after day after day. At this point, I'm just waiting for my doctor's appointment next week.

[Loud_curly]

ADSigMel - Wow, that sucks :mad: . As I've said before, as frustrating as it is for those of us who see AF, we know the wait's not that long before we try again. Hope you get to O soon!

Tealynn - If you normally have a short LP, then you really wouldn't be testing early, would you ;) Fingers crossed for you!

Granada - Hope those temps stay high and you can test a day or two early. Good luck with keeping it :cool:

I think I just got some EWCM - which is very bad since DH doesn't get back until Wednesday nite. I hope it's just b/c I've been drinking grapefruit juice and green tea for the past two weeks and I'm just getting higher quality CM earlier. Stay away O!!!

[FSUSammy]

ADSigMel - I hear ya girl about the damn opks!!!! I've been doing them twice a day for the last week and its always - - - !!!! I can't wait to hear what your doctor says next week. I really hope they have some kind of solution for your LONG and wacky cycles.

[mrs_pell]

Hey ladies ~ I'm WAAAAAAAAY behind and haven't been in here in a while b/c our internet's been out at the house and I can never get on at work. I've been so totally lost w/out my internet!! :o :eek: Anyway, I had the longest cycle this month (long for *me*), and stopped temping after I *thought* I O'd, but now I don't think I did, because I would have gone 20-some days after O. After 2 BFNs, I'm finally on CD1. I've decided that this no-temping after O is *NOT* for me, because it totally stressed me out not knowing what was going on, especially with this long cycle.

Anyway, the timing on all this is actually going to work out well, because I'm leaving for Indiana on Thursday, and if AF would have shown when she normally does, that would have been right around O time and after my HSG (and DH isn't going with me). Now, I'll go in for my CD3 bloodwork on Wednesday before I leave, have my HSG the day after I get back (which I have off work anyway), and then it'll be time for BDing. I was definitely not happy about the prospect of missing the critical time especially the month of my HSG. So...here's hoping all this works out this month and we get a nice little Christmas present (and birthday present for me!). :)

Hope everyone is doing well, and hopefully I'll stay caught up a bit better now that our internet is back! :)

[DelSol]

SQ2 ~ good luck with your break, I hope everything works out.

ceaserbride ~ snowing, already yikes! I don't even want to think about snow yet.

Robyn ~ Hi! Glad you are back from NY, hope all is well.

Loud_Curly ~ yup, it's a weird cycle, can't wait for it to be over. Good luck with BDing.

Jessie ~ glad your DH's SA was in the normal range.

DianeCourt ~ party looked great.

tealynn ~ good luck, keeping my fingers crossed for you.

Sammy ~ good luck catching your egg.

honeygirl ~ sorry you're not in the best of moods.

ADSigMel ~ sorry about the negative OPKs, I hope you O soon and your get the answers you need at your doctor's appointment.

mrs_pell ~ sorry about the long cycle & AF. I'm right with you on the long cycle, totally not normal for me.

CD33 - 18DPO ~ not much going on, temp dropped and I'm just waiting for AF to hopefully show.

[ABirney]

Hi ladies...
I am way behind so no s/o's for me... Good luck to those testing soon!

Went to my grandparent's yesterday for Scott's bday dinner... got to see my cousin and his family that I haven't seen in a very long time.. they have a new 2month old son, he's so cute! Of course my cousin's wife asked when we were gonna have kids... so I told her we've been working on that for over a year now. She was shocked (they are very fertile!!)
Other than that, nothing new cycle - wise... had to take my kitty back into work with me today and have x-rays and a cast put on.. she didn't break anything but as a sprain she won't let rest, so giving it some extra support.
Have a great night everyone!

[Jess71903]

Pretty much everything I was going to answer got sufficiently answered before now, so I will forego SOs except for this one:
I've actually O'd on CD45 and CD47 before, so maybe I'll wait until CD50 before seeing my doc.
The only thing is that I remember this explaination. Your folicular phase (CD 1 to O) is supposed to be for maturing eggs. If it is taking 45 days for those eggs to mature that should only take about 14, then there is a problem and you may need some help to get them to mature in a reasonable amount of time. I hope that helps!

me-
So I went this morning to have the u/s to see what was going on in my ovaries. First off, it was a dildo cam, which I hadn't really thought about. If I hadn't gotten used to being prodded, this might have been a problem, but as it was, no biggie. I had 3 big follies, 2 on the blocked side at 14.something , and the dominant one on the unblocked side at 20.3!!!! I was SO relieved not to have a bunch and to not even have 2 on the good side! I am to trigger tonight (another stupid shot:mad: ) at 10:30 or so and I have an appt. Wednesday to do the IUI. YAY!

[granada]

Jess ~ Good luck with the IUI on Wednesday. :) At this point, I honestly don't understand the whole IUI process :o, but it sounds like the ultrasound showed you some good things.

[oceanblue]

I'm finally done with the pills and on CD1, officially in the game. I'm not really expecting too much the first couple cycles, but you never know! Now I feel like I officially belong in this thread and I'll be around a bit more. :)

I'm not as good with the SO's as some of you (some of you are veerrry good at that), but I'll do my best to keep up, it's a little more difficult on some days than others with the boy running around now!

[FSUSammy]

mrs_pell - Sorry about AF, I hope this new cycle works out for you.

DelSol - I can't see your chart from work but is there any way you O'd later?? I just find it hard to believe you are 18DPO and not PG.

ABirney - Hope your kitty is doing better.

Jess - Sounds like everything is looking good for you!!!

aprilbride2002 - Good luck with this cycle!

RP from SWH:

Me - CD 17 here. OPKs last night were once again negative. My temp was also extremely down this morning. I'm thinking its because the house was colder because we had a cold front move through last night. So that means that I have at least another night to BD. I'm trying to not let this frustrate me though because that's not going to do anything. Be back later.

Sam

[melandtim]

I'm back from my competition and boy was it a long 5 days.
I am keeping my fingers crossed for all of you. Since i can't join in this month I will cheer you guys on!!!

CD19 for me and another annovulatory cycle for me so I guess no big deal that we weren't trying this month. Thanks for the well wishes. I am actually looking forward to my surgery next week so I can actually eat. I feel so miserable all the time :(

[ceaserbride]

I'm finally done with the pills and on CD1, officially in the game. I'm not really expecting too much the first couple cycles, but you never know! Now I feel like I officially belong in this thread and I'll be around a bit more.
Yay, for officially being "in" the game! Good luck this cycle!

me-
So I went this morning to have the u/s to see what was going on in my ovaries. First off, it was a dildo cam, which I hadn't really thought about. If I hadn't gotten used to being prodded, this might have been a problem, but as it was, no biggie. I had 3 big follies, 2 on the blocked side at 14.something , and the dominant one on the unblocked side at 20.3!!!! I was SO relieved not to have a bunch and to not even have 2 on the good side! I am to trigger tonight (another stupid shot at 10:30 or so and I have an appt. Wednesday to do the IUI. YAY!
Good luck with the IUI!!! Hoping for the very best outcome!

Went to my grandparent's yesterday for Scott's bday dinner... got to see my cousin and his family that I haven't seen in a very long time.. they have a new 2month old son, he's so cute! Of course my cousin's wife asked when we were gonna have kids... so I told her we've been working on that for over a year now. She was shocked (they are very fertile!!) I've found the couple people we have told we are ttc have the same reaction even though we're only on our 3rd month. They think there is something wronge with us since we arn't pregnant yet:rolleyes:

CD33 - 18DPO ~ not much going on, temp dropped and I'm just waiting for AF to hopefully show.
Sucks that temp dropped. Hopefully AF shows soon so you can get onto next cyle!

Anyway, I had the longest cycle this month (long for *me*), and stopped temping after I *thought* I O'd, but now I don't think I did, because I would have gone 20-some days after O. After 2 BFNs, I'm finally on CD1. I've decided that this no-temping after O is *NOT* for me, because it totally stressed me out not knowing what was going on, especially with this long cycle.

Have fun in India and hopefully you get a great X-mas/bday gift when you return!

I think I just got some EWCM - which is very bad since DH doesn't get back until Wednesday nite. I hope it's just b/c I've been drinking grapefruit juice and green tea for the past two weeks and I'm just getting higher quality CM earlier. Stay away O!!!
As silly as it sounds, I hope O stays away until DH gets back!

I'm still waiting myself. It's CD39. No O in sight. I finally ran out of my 20-pack of OPKs. Never did see a +. I definitely don't intend to use them again. I can't tell you how depressing it is to see 20 negatives day after day after day after day. At this point, I'm just waiting for my doctor's appointment next week.
Hoping your Dr. can give you the answers you're looking for and figure out your long cyles.

I'm kind of in limbo at the moment...if my temp doesn't drop in the AM and the spotting doesn't start up again (and if the sun and the moon are in alignment :rolleyes: ) I might test tomorrow.
Oh, Oh, Good luck testing:D Crossing my fingers for you!!! We need more BFP this month!!!

To answer your other question, I'm not sure when I'm testing. I actually don't have an HPT and [B]resolved to only test when I know what the result will be. [/I] My temp usually drops a couple of days before AF is due, which should be tomorrow. So, I'm just staying :cool: until then.
This is what I'm hoping to do too...lets see if we can hold out that long!

Me - I'm not in the best mood. I started the day by dropping off DH's "sample" at the clinic (for his SA). I felt self-conscious carrying it in my purse and I swear everyone at the clinic knew and was looking at me weird. Sigh. I started the Clomid this am and am already moody but I can't blame the medicine, I was already feeling that way. This all sucks.
I can't relate but I'm sure it does suck. Just remember shat you are doing it all for and hopefully all this work will help you get to that point. Good luck!

Me-9DPO- One more week till test day if AF doesn't show:cool: I had some very strange, twingy cramping yesterday but I'm writing it off to my mind playing tricks on me... trying not to get my hopes up but its hard with a DH who is *adiment* that we are pregnant. It's hillarious too cause DH is the-heavest sleeper but wakes every morning when I temp and asks me what it's like...so cute!

I was also thinking that I really want this to be the month since our timing was *so* good. If we arn't pregnant it would definatly have me worrying. Other months I could just blame it on bad timing, but not now.
Anyway...I'll quit rambling.

[kanga1622]

kanga - Your pre-O temps seem a lot higher this month (at least compared to last month). Any idea why? Hopefully you O'd!!All the high temps in the middle of my cycle were when I was running a fever and battling the sinus infection. I was on antibiotics from CD23-36. I think my temps finally came down when the antibiotics kicked in and the infection started to recede.

I am really hoping I'm not pregnant this cycle. I think we may have to bow out for at least one more cycle until I can figure out what is going on with this iodine stuff. My sis is a nurse and she's confirmed for me that there is only one way to check for iodine deficiency or low iodine and it involves lots of radioactive stuff. She also confirmed that low iodine levels in a pregnant mother has been linked to mental retardation in the baby. Hopefully someone can tell me that I can take seaweed tablets for a particular number of days before it will be safe to TTC again. I'm starting to get really irritated that we've been TTC for 8+ months now and we might have to stop. Why couldn't they have discovered this before we were TTC?

[FSUSammy]

It's hillarious too cause DH is the-heavest sleeper but wakes every morning when I temp and asks me what it's like...so cute!


That's too cute!! Hopefully it is your month!

[DianeCourt]

Ladies:

Real quick - there's a blood drive today and work and I ALWAYS donate. However, being in the 2WW, I'm not sure if it's a good idea. If I am pregnant, do you think there's any harm in donating a pint? I'm only 6 DPO at this point.

Thanks!

P.S. Temp went up again today, so I'm feeling more optimistic.

[FSUSammy]

Diane - Can you discreetly go call your ob/gyn? Normally when I have a quick question the receptionist will run to the nurse to make sure its ok that way you don't have to wait for them to call you back.

[2 Crazy Pugs]

Morning ladies!

So my temp skyrocketed this morning- positive OPK on Sunday, BD Sunday and Monday night, temp went from 98.1 to 98.6 this morning- I am confused! Could I actually have really good luck and get a BFP the first time trying......

[FSUSammy]

2 Crazy Pugs- Sounds like you could have had perfect timing! I guess we'll have to see what your temps do for the next 2 days.

Sam

[DelSol]

Sammy ~ let me know if you can see my chart below. Let me know what you think, I don't think there's a possibility but you never know.

kanga1622 ~ hopefully the doctors can quickly resolve the iodine stuff quickly.

DianeCourt ~ I would call to ask just to be sure, I know a while back someone told me to just do your normal activities until you get a BFP because I was questioning taking Motrin for a headache and I was in my 2WW.

2 Crazy Pugs ~ good luck!


Me ~ CD34 - 19DPO, no sign of AF yet. I think I'll call the doctor today and see if I can get an appointment although they never have an evening appointment so I'll just have to cross my fingers I can get something.

ETA: I do have some cramps today so I'm hoping she makes an appearance, I know as soon as I make an appointment she'll show.

[tealynn]

Diane, I don't think there's any problem giving blood during the 2WW...just think about how much blood they take once they know you're PG ;) However, if you feel at all uncomfortable with it, don't do it. There will be plenty of opportunities to give blood down the road...

[tealynn]

I'm glad I didn't waste a test this morning. AF just arrived. Is it too early for chocolate???? Lot's of it???

I'll try to do SO's later or I might be the one with my face buried in my pillow.:(

[2 Crazy Pugs]

My temps should continue to rise the next 2 days or so, right?

You all are such a big help! I feel like I can ask anything, no matter how stupid it is, and get an answer that I can actually understand....

[melandtim]

I'm sorry Tealynn :(

[FSUSammy]

DelSol - I'll have to check your chart at home tonight. Stupid work blocks fertilityfriend for some STUPID reason!!!

tealynn - Sorry about AF. Damn hag! Go eat some chocolate!!!!

2 Crazy Pugs - Yup your temps should stay up for the next 2 days. Remember you need 3 temps .2 higher than your previous 6 temps to call O.

[DianeCourt]

tealynn: Ugh, that sucks. I'm sorry. :( You deserve as much chocolate today as you'd like.

[DelSol]

DelSol - I'll have to check your chart at home tonight. Stupid work blocks fertilityfriend for some STUPID reason!!!


Ok, I thought maybe if I inserted a picture of it you could see it. I'll go back and delete the picture of it.

tealynn ~ sorry about AF. :(

[oceanblue]

Diane-I think you'd be OK giving blood, I remember they took a bunch of it at my first pre-natal visit last year. Not quite a pint, but still. But yeah, if you'd feel better you can just call your ob/gyn real quick.

tealynn-Sorry about AF, and no, it's never too early for chocolate!

2 Crazy Pugs-Sounds like you had great timing, I hope you do have good luck and get PG this first cycle!

DelSol-very weird. It does look like you O'd, but if you're having cramps and whatnot, maybe wait until tonight to see what happens and then see if you can get into the doc tomorrow??

[FSUSammy]

RP from SWH:

Quick question ladies. I bought preseed to use this cycle since I'm on clomid and I had heard that it dries up your cm. Well it hasn't dried mine up at all. Should I bother using preseed if I have plenty of CM???

Thanks!
Sam

[ceaserbride]

Tealynn- Go eat some chocolate...sorry about af:(

2 Crazy Pugs- HOpe your temps stay up and your timing was great!

Quick question- Can someone tell my why me cross hairs arn't solid lines?? I'm not too conserned about it. It's pretty obvious I O'd right???

[JayJay]

mrspell, I hope your HSG goes well. I know how you feel about the loss of internet at home. I go a couple weeks of weeks without it, and I'm pulling my hair out!

DelSol, girl, what the heck is going on with you? You and I are in the same boat now, just waiting for the hag to show. I hope she doesn't for either of us though!

Jess, I'm crossing my fingers for you that your IUI sticks. I have a good feeling about it! :D

Sam, Sorry the OPK's are being a pain in the rear for you. I quit using them because they were uber expensive, and frustrating for me.

melandtim, sorry about the annovs....they suck. I have a feeling that's what I'm going through now.

tealynn, sorry about AF. CD 1 is rotten.

As for me? Well, I'm CD 65. Yup, you read that right. CD 65. Remember when I said that I thought AF was coming? Nope, she was a no show. On CD 54, I was in Wal-Mart with my sister and had some serious cramping. When we got back to my mom's, I went to check, and there was red blood. I thought for sure that she was here, then nothing.

On CD 63, I had some cramping and spotting again. Thought she was coming. Nope. Not here.

My temps have been low, like around 98. (yes, I bought a thermometer just to see where I was...) So, now I'm thinking that I haven't even O'ed. How damn frustrating.

:mad: :mad: :mad:

[FSUSammy]

MrsJackson05 - Sorry your cycle is sooooooo LONG and confusing. My last cycle ended up being 74 days long. I finally O'd on CD 62. So you still have a chance at Oing. Have you called your ob/gyn to see what they say?

[JayJay]

Quick question- Can someone tell my why me cross hairs arn't solid lines?? I'm not too conserned about it. It's pretty obvious I O'd right???

Most likely it's because your CM doesn't really match your ovulation. They like to have watery or Eggwhite listed there, and you have Creamy.
Don't worry about it, I get it all the time when I'm temping. :D

[JayJay]

Sam, were you under lots of stress, or just a very unusual cycle for you?

I haven't called my dr yet, because I really keep thinking that she's coming. I get 'that' feeling, and then she's a no show.

[mkvh]

delsol--I definitely would move your O to CD 16 and your CL to at least 97.1. That said, your post-O temps are low. You do appear to be one of those "excpetions" who have fertile CM after O. As for AF, I'm sorry she's a no-show. Your chart doesn't indicate that you could have O'd later.

tealynn--sorry about AF. Weird that your temp didn't drop.

Sammy--If you've got plenty of fertile CM, I wouldn't waste the Preseed.

Mrs.Jackson--Sounds like you're having another annovulatory cycle. Sorry--that SUCKS!

[Loud_curly]

Tealynn - I was sooo upset to see that AF showed for you - your chart looked sooo good. :mad: Now go have some chocolate - my orders!;)

Delsol - Based on your temps alone, maybe you're having an annov cycle? You had lots of high temps then followed by low temps. I would bring your chart with you when you go see the doctor to see what he/she thinks.

MrsJackson and Sammy - Those long cycles SUCK!:eek:

2 Crazy Pugs - Hope you caught the egg and that your temps keep going up!!!

Caesarbride - Yep, you pretty obviously Oed. Like MrsJackson said, the crosshairs are b/c the CM didn't match the temps.

MelandTim - Glad the competitions went well. Now get some rest before the surgery so you can get back in the game!

Me - Had a great visit to the dentist - no problems!!! (I've spent plenty of $$$ at the dentist on my teeth over the past few years.) As for my EWCM last night, it appeared to just be one glob (whew!). I'm back to creamy/watery today, and my temp is still down, so still OK. Just need to keep the temps down a few more days...

[ceaserbride]

Thanks MrsJackson & Loud Curly. I kinda thought that.

Also another Question: Something I've never really been sure of is if my CM is Watery or Creamy. I've only ever had this one type of CM and I've been calling it Creamy but how would I know since I've never had anything else?? Can someone explain the difference??

[FSUSammy]

MrsJackson05 - It was a VERY unusual cycle for me. I honestly didn't notice any stress. Granted I was applying for a few internal positions at work and interviewing, but that was hardly stressful. What is funny is I finally O'd the day I started my new position.

caesar - I have the same thing as you. When I've had creamy in the past it looked and felt like lotion. Lately mine looks like lotion (same color) but is more watery so I'm considering it watery.

[DelSol]

Ok so I called my OB/GYN office and OB/GYN receptionist was not helpful, she was like well maybe it's to early. Uhh yeah I don't think so. So she passes me along to the nurses’ line saying I should probably get some blood work done, I had to leave a message for the nurse and try to explain without going into much detail what I need, lordy did I feel stupid. This practice drives me batty sometimes because some of the nurses are really rude. Now I am just waiting for the nurse to call me back.

[Loud_curly]

Delsol - Have you tested again? I only see the one test on your chart. It's definitely easier than dealing with those obnoxious nurses!

Caesarbride - I usually refer to FF when trying to classify my CM. When you got to enter your CM on the chart, click on the "?" before the "Cervical Mucus" and up will come the description of the types of CM.

[DelSol]

Loud_curly ~ no I haven't tested again, I figured 1 BFN was good enough for me to know. If I don't hear from the nurse today, I'll test again tomorrow.

[cat_loverpq]

Dana ~ I was thinking along the same lines as Loud_curly that you are probably having an annov cycle. Your coverline and "post-O" temps are way low compared to your previous chart, where they hung out around 97.7. With the exception of your temp on CD17, the only other high temps are open circles, which makes me think they are probably artificially high. I hope the nurse calls you back soon.

MrsJackson ~ Sorry AF still hasn't shown. I know how frustrating it is...

2 Crazy Pugs ~ Did you ever post a link to your chart? We all love chart-stalking so I just thought I'd check...;) (See my post #686 for instructions if you don't know how)

Loud_curly ~ It sucks that you can wait for O in the time most people have gone through a cycle and a half.
:mad: You're telling me! How funny that you are hoping NOT to O, while most of us are desperately wishing for O to happen! LOL!

jessied1025 ~ Have you heard back from you dr yet on what DH's SA results mean?

honeygirl ~ Have you heard from your dr on the SA results yet?

ADSigMel ~ Sorry that you still haven't gotten a +OPK. I would be in the same boat (CD 36 now) if I took them every day this cycle. I only take them when I have EWCM and could even be close to Oing. Seeing all the negatives definitely sucks. :(

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CD36 here, and I think I might be getting ready to O. I typically have 3 days of EWCM before O and today marks day #3....shhhhhhh, don't scare it away! :D
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[DelSol]

Cat_lover ~ the open circle are days I slept in. I'm going to adjust them and see what happens.

Nurse hasn't called me back yet.

[mkvh]

Now that I see it that way, DelSol, I'm thinking either you were annovulatory or had a "weak" O so your temps didn't stay up. catlover is right--they're not in your normal pre-o range.

[DelSol]

I adjusted all my temps and made notes of what time I woke up and what the temps were then. It could have been an anovulatory or a weak O since that was right around the time my DH was being a jerk. But I did have EWCM so you do you get that with an anovulatory cycle?

Since I've never had a anovulatory cycle, how can I bring on AF?

[FSUSammy]

Dana - You can most certainly have EWCM and have an annovulatory cycle. A lot of times your body will gear up to O and then it just doesn't. Depending on what kind of CM you are having now its very well possible that your body can still O this cycle.

[DelSol]

Thanks Sammy ~ I'm going to be reading up on annovulatory cycles. CM right now is dry, did have a few sporadic days of creamy CM.

[ADSigMel]

Loud curly - If your last cycle was a normal one for you, I'm thinking you won't O until after after DH gets back. Stay away O! (At least for a few more days.)

Sam - Yeah, it really does suck to NEVER see a positive! I'm so sorry Clomid hasn't worked for you so far. Have you talked to your doctor about why it's taking so long for you to O? Good for you for trying not to get too frustrated. You might just need 100mg instead of 50. Or maybe the Clomid is still working and you'll O soon. About the Pre-seed, I don't know anything about it really, but I'm sure it couldn't hurt to have a little extra CM to help the sperm along.

mrs_pell - Well, I'm glad the timing worked out well for you. When is your HSG scheduled for? I hope you get your Christmas surprise!

DelSol - This is really funky cycle for you. I do agree with the other posters that your supposed post-O temps are super-low. Aside from the very clear CM pattern, the temps look sort of annov to me.

ABirney - I don't know if you've said before, but are you taking anything this cycle to help with the annovulation and long cycle issues?

Jess - YAY for the super-follicle! I really hope the IUI goes well tomorrow!

aprilbride2002 - Glad to see that you're officially in the saddle (so to speak)! When do you expect to start the baby-dance? Do you usually have normal cycles?

melandtim - I hope your competition went well! Best wishes for your surgery, and I hope that you can return to us soon.

ceaserbride - Your chart is still looking mighty fine...I've got a good feeling! Do you know how long your LP usually is? Are you really going to wait another whole week to test? :eek: I would never make it that long! :p I'm thinking FF gave you dotted crosshairs because you didn't record any fertile CM (watery or eggwhite). Is there a chance that you mistook EWCM for creamy? It took me several months to figure all that stuff out. I think your O is pretty clear, though, just based on the thermal shift. If you've only ever seen one kind, it's probably creamy instead of watery, since chances are that you wouldn't be constantly fertile. If it's watery, you'll probably know...I mean, for me, watery is like what I would see if I stuck my fingers under a water faucet!

kanga - So sorry about the iodine issues. I really hope everything works out soon. It would suck for you to have to stop TTC because of it.

2 Crazy Pugs - Remind me why you don't have an online chart? I hope this is it for you! According to the NFP rules (which is what I use, since I never read TCOYF), your temps should go up to about .4 degrees above where they were pre-O, and should stay up there.

tealynn - I'm so sorry about AF's arrival. It's never too early for chocolate, though!

MrsJackson - I know precisely how you feel. Is 98 a low temp for you? My post-O temps are usually around 97.7. Are you going to call the doctor and ask for something to induce bleeding?

cat lover - Fingers crossed for you! :p

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As for me, I'm still just waiting. It's CD40.

[filmgirl7]

I love this thread. It's so great to know that there are others going through what I am, who I can talk to about it all.

Loud Curly - We are still cycle buddies...I wonder if we will ovulate on the same day! How weird would that be!

I want to send a SO to all the girls who are waiting to ovulate and whose cycles are going on and on!!!! I've never had that problem, but I know when i've gotten to CD 34 or 35, I start to go a little nuts. I hope everyone ovulates soon (or starts a new cycle!!!) Good luck!

Best of luck to everyone testing this week, as well.

As for me, I would love to be DTD night and day at this point in the cycle, but my husband is hedging and it's very upsetting. If it's not this month, we'll have to wait until February, and that feels so far away. :rolleyes:
Meanwhile we are in the process of moving into our first house; we closed last thursday, but the furniture won't move until next Friday. I'm wondering if all the stress might delay ovulation. We'll see.

[ceaserbride]

[ceaserbride - Your chart is still looking mighty fine...I've got a good feeling! Do you know how long your LP usually is? Are you really going to wait another whole week to test? :eek: I would never make it that long! :p I'm thinking FF gave you dotted crosshairs because you didn't record any fertile CM (watery or eggwhite). Is there a chance that you mistook EWCM for creamy? It took me several months to figure all that stuff out. I think your O is pretty clear, though, just based on the thermal shift. If you've only ever seen one kind, it's probably creamy instead of watery, since chances are that you wouldn't be constantly fertile. If it's watery, you'll probably know...I mean, for me, watery is like what I would see if I stuck my fingers under a water faucet!
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As for me, I'm still just waiting. It's CD40.

Hehe, I think you just made my day:D I'm going to *try* to wait a week...I think I can, I think I can, I think I can...
I think all my CM is creamy...always, always:mad: humph:( It definatly isn't clear.

CD40:( Sorry this is taking so long for you.

[cat_loverpq]

But I did have EWCM so you do you get that with an anovulatory cycle?

Since I've never had a anovulatory cycle, how can I bring on AF?

Yes, it is absolutely possible to have EWCM and not O. Trust me on that one. ;) As for what you can do to bring on AF...not a darn thing unless your dr prescribes something. :rolleyes:

filmgirl ~ Thanks for the shout-out!

ADSigMel ~ Thanks!

Dana ~ If you ignore the temp on CD17 does FF take away your crosshairs?

ceasar ~ Another way to tell your CM apart: sticky CM leaves white/yellow marks on your underwear; creamy leaves a wet spot. Also, sticky breaks right away and forms little "peaks" when you try to stretch it between your fingers. Creamy might stretch a tiny bit and be runny. HTH!

[oceanblue]

aprilbride2002 - Glad to see that you're officially in the saddle (so to speak)! When do you expect to start the baby-dance? Do you usually have normal cycles?

ADSigMel-Thanks! Yeah, I had pretty normal cycles when TTCing DS. Typical cycle averaged 27 days, with an O anywhere between cycle day 11-14. Luteal phase averaged 14 days. So I usually started with the OPKs around CD8 or 9. I stocked up on some as well as a new basal therm, not sure if I'll use them this month though (the OPKs). I might just go by CM for a couple cycles and then use the OPKs (if needed).

[2 Crazy Pugs]

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/168fad

Lets see if this works- my chart

[FSUSammy]

ADSigMel - I haven't talked to my doc yet. I figured I'd wait a few more days and see what happens. I figured if I still haven't O'd in a few more days and I still have these horrible O pains I probably need to get in for an ultrasound.

filmgirl7 - Congrats on the new house! Hopefully this will be your cycle!!!

[FSUSammy]

DelSol - Just had a chance to peek at your chart. It is look annovulatory right now. You won't know for sure though until AF shows up. Did the nurse ever call you back?

[ceaserbride]

ceasar ~ Another way to tell your CM apart: sticky CM leaves white/yellow marks on your underwear; creamy leaves a wet spot. Also, sticky breaks right away and forms little "peaks" when you try to stretch it between your fingers. Creamy might stretch a tiny bit and be runny. HTH!

Really??? Well before O I always have white/yellow marks...huh. I really though it was creamy. Okay so sticky isn't fertile though is it???

[cat_loverpq]

ceaser ~ Nope, sticky is definitely not fertile.

2 Crazy ~ Yay, it worked! I will update the front page...

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated

Please remember to post all updates in RED. Thanks!

[FSUSammy]

ceasar ~ Another way to tell your CM apart: sticky CM leaves white/yellow marks on your underwear; creamy leaves a wet spot. Also, sticky breaks right away and forms little "peaks" when you try to stretch it between your fingers. Creamy might stretch a tiny bit and be runny. HTH!

I don't think this sounds right. At least not for me. Sticky leaves nothing at all. Creamy will leave white/yellow marks and EWCM or Wet CM will leave a wet spot.

[ABirney]

Hi everyone...
jess Good luck with the IUI!
aprilbride Yay for being officially TTC!
Sam Hope you O soon!
melandtim Hope this week goes by fast so you can get to surgery. My mom, MIL, and SIL have all had their gall bladders out and before that they were miserable.
ceasarbride hope those twinges were something!
kanga that sucks about the possible radiation stuff for the low iodine. Hope everything gets taken care of soon.
2crazypugs Looks like O if your temp stays up. Hope you caught your egg!
DelSol Hope the dr gets back to you soon and you figure out what's going on.
tealynn So sorry the witch showed.
MrsJackson Sorry you are having such a long cycle!
catlover Come on O!
ADSigMel Hope you O soon too! As for your question, I've been on metformin since May. O'd the first 2 cycles on it, haven't O'd since. Been having to use Provera to kick-start AF.
filmgirl Sorry your DH is stalling. Hope you don't have to wait until Feb to try again! Congrats on your new house too.

Nothing new here... CD4.

[Jess71903]

A breakdown of CM from TCOYF (which, btw, you all need to get if you haven't already! It's invaluable!) taken from page 90:

Sticky: Opaque, white, or yellow, occasionally clear. Can be fairly thick. Critical quality is its stickiness or lack of true wetness. May be crumbly or flaky like paste, or gummy and rubbery like rubber cement. may form small peaks when you separate with your fingers.
Creamy: Milky or cloudy, white or yellow. Creamy or lotiony. Wet, watery, or thin. When separating fingers, doesnt form peaks, but remains smooth like hand lotion.
EW: usually clear but can bave opaque streaks in it. Very slippery and wet, like raw eggwhite. Often causes extremely lubricative feel at vaginal opeing. May stretch from one to 10 inches.
Also this from page 85 and 86- focus on vaginal sensations throughout the day. Glance away before looking at the CF. Focus on the quality as you rub your fingers together, then see if it stretches. Underwear: very fertile CM often forms a fairly symmetrical round circle due to its high concentration of water. Nonwet CM tends to form more of a rectangular square or line.

I read all of the replies earlier, then had to leave, and I don't want to go back and read everything again, so I am just going to do my best!

tealynn: I am so sorry about AF. Eat all the chocolate you can get your hands on and cry into your pillow as much as you need to. Does this bring any new treatments or tests for you?

I know there was something else I wanted to say, but I can't remember right now! Thank you all for the IUI well wishes! We have to be there at 10:15 in the morning, and have to find a place in town for DH to do his part before we go, because we like right at 30 minutes from the office:rolleyes: . I hope I am not setting myself up, but I am really optimistic about this. I catch myself talking like this is a sure thing.

[honeygirl]

Good luck Jess! Best wishes with your procedure. As for finding a place in town, how about a Starbuck's restroom? They're usually private (1 person only). ;)

Sorry Tealynn. I hope the chocolate helped a little.

[Jess71903]

honeygirl- thanks for the suggestion. I have to laugh a little every time we talk about it! teheheh! We will keep that in mind!

[melandtim]

Jess - good luck today!! and thanks for the CM definitions. I still have some trouble with that.

CD 19 for me, ho hum. I think I mistakenly said yesterday was CD19 but today is. Which means AF is due the day of my surgery, yuck that won't be fun :( Wonder how they handle that?

I hope to get lots of relaxation time in while recuperating so maybe just maybe I will actually O next month :rolleyes:

[FSUSammy]

Jess - Good luck today!

Me - CD 18 today. OPKs are all still negative. I'm tempted just to stop taking them because it is just soooooo disappointing to go day to day seeing negatives twice a day. I don't know what I'm going to do yet but I need to decide quickly. I might call up my ob/gyn today to see what they say about all this. Its been 12 days since my last clomid pill and I should have O'd by now. I have no stress that would delay it really. I was reading something last night that said that your pituitary gland is what produces the LH and it got me wondering if maybe I have something wrong with that. I don't know I'm trying not to get myself down over this but its so hard not to. Oh yeah and we didn't BD last night either like I wanted to. Thankfully this morning's temp was still down which means I still have a chance tonight.

Sam

[DelSol]

Good Luck Jess! I'll be thinking about you today. Fingers crossed.

[melandtim]

Forgot to mention - DH's bone scan of his knee showed no infection so they are sending him to a specialist to determine why is still in so much pain.

[FSUSammy]

Mel that's fantastic news!

[melandtim]

Sammy - in a way we were kind of hoping it was an infection so we would know why the pain is still there. Hopefully its something not too serious. Good thing is that the scan did not show that the implant is loosening.

[Loud_curly]

Mel - Hope that whatever's the problem with DH's knee will have an easy fix!

Jess - Good luck today! I hope this is it for you!:D

Sammy - Bummer that you still haven't Oed. Did the dr. tell you what dates he/she was targeting for Oing? Hope you get to BD tonight.

Honeygirl - Excellent call on the Starbucks restroom! What good thinking!:D

Filmgirl - congrats on the new house! I hope this cycle is it for you - it would suck to have to then wait until February to try again!

Catlover and ADSigMel - Hope you both manage to O soon as well.

Granada and Caesarbride - Looking forward to seeing your temps today - we want some more BFPs this month!

DelSol - Any word from the dr. yet? I see your temp is still hovering at the CL today, but apparently no AF or BFP. That sucks :(

Me, well, my temp's still down, and DH gets back home tonight. He knows that I will attack him and he's ready! :D And it looks as if we'll be heading to Ft. Lauderdale this weekend - he has a last-minute speaking engagement on SATURDAY (I hate when companies schedule their meetings on the weekend) so we're going down on the company's dime!

[2 Crazy Pugs]

Morning!

Well my temp was up again this morning! I am kind of freaking out. I can't really fathom that I would be lucky enough to get PG the first time trying. I guess we will see.

[cat_loverpq]

Good morning ladies!

Today DH and I are leaving to go on vacation in Arizona. We're going to visit his sister and her DH, and my new little niece that was born in July. :D I will be sure to get lots of baby time! We're going to the Grand Canyon one day and we have a costume party to go to, but other than that we're just gonna relax and enjoy the warm weather. :)

I will have internet access, but I'm not sure how often I'll be able to get on and update. We come home on Nov. 1, so Robyn will get the new thread up and running for us.

My temp was still down this morning, but I got a +OPK yesterday so I'm thinking maybe I will O today. Hopefully my temp goes up tomorrow!
I would be sooooo disappointed if my O gets delayed b/c we're traveling today... **thinking happy O thoughts**

[melandtim]

Catlover - Have fun and good luck!!

2 crazy pugs - hope this is it for you!

Loud Curly - thanks, good luck tonight and have fun in FL!!

[Loud_curly]

Oh, and I forgot -
HAPPY BIRTHDAY MEL!!!

[FSUSammy]

cat_loverpqp - Enjoy your trip!!! Hopefully you will O today.

[cat_loverpq]

Since I mentioned our costume party, I thought it would be fun to post what we're wearing. And that brought me to a QOTD ~ Are you dressing up for Halloween or a costume party? If you are, show us your costume!

We're going as a Greek Goddess and a Gladiator:

http://images.buycostumes.com/mgen/merchandiser/18589.jpg?is=325,325,0xffffff

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000APR4PY.16._SCLZZZZZZZ_SS260_V41388142_.jpg


Mel ~ Thanks! And is today your birthday, missy? http://www.kenandkeli.com/images/smilies/bday2.gif

Sam ~ Thanks, I hope so too!

[FSUSammy]

cat_loverpq - Cute costumes!!!

QOTD - Nope not dressing up.

[DelSol]

ADSigMel ~ thanks, I'm now leaning towards annov also.

filmgirl ~ good luck w/ the move. I hope you're able to BD w/o DH hedging, I know that can be very unsettling.

cat_lover ~ I tried and I still got crosshairs. Enjoy Arizona & the Grand Canyon. I loved the Grand Canyon.

Sammy ~ nope nurse never called me back. Sorry about not Oing yet, I hope it happens soon.

ABirney ~ thanks. I hope AF leaves you soon so you can start BDing.

Jess ~ thanks fro the CM refresher.

melandtim ~ that's great news about DH's bone scan. I hope he can get some relief soon from the pain. Happy Birthday Mel!!! http://www.kenandkeli.com/images/smilies/bdaycake.gif

loud_curly ~ no work from dr's office. Didn't test this morning either because I was running late. Have fun in Ft. Lauderdale.


Me ~ got some sticky CM this morning. Still waiting for the nurse to call me back. My boss & I were talking last night and he was saying how November is going to be a busy month for us, we are getting travel insurance, benefit renewals and we need to hire a lot of people. Yikes, I know what that means for me, working late, so that puts some strain on me but hopefully I can get through this cycle and start the next one with a BFP and still be able to do a good job at work.

[DianeCourt]

Happy b-day, Mel! My daugher's birthday is today, too!
catlover: Enjoy your trip! Perfect timing with your O!

I decided not to give blood yesterday. I remember that one of the questions they ask you each time you donate is if you're PG, and the honest answer to that right now is "I don't know!" So I decided to pass this time.

Check out my chart! My temp dipped below coverline today, and I still have a week left before AF is due. If it goes back up tomorrow, part of me will be wondering if it's an implantation dip! :eek: However, I didn't see that when I was PG with #1, so I'm not going to get too excited about it.

[melandtim]

Thanks everyone!!!! Its the big 30 today!!

Cat lover - I love those costumes, what fun!

[FSUSammy]

Delsol - Stupid nurse. I really think you need to get in for some bloodwork to check hormone levels to see what's going on.

Diane - A dip is definitely promissing. Crossing my fingers for you.

Mel - are you doing anything special for your big 3-0??

Me - Waiting patiently for my ob/gyn nurse to call me back. Oh yeah and my 10am opk.....NEGATIVE.

Sam

[melandtim]

nope. My guess is I will have to make dinner. DH is working all day at a job and then has to go do a side job at 2 different rental properties this evening after he gets off so I will probably be on my own (well with all our animals so I'm never really alone :p ) Did get some new pjs though!!

[ceaserbride]

A breakdown of CM from TCOYF (which, btw, you all need to get if you haven't already! It's invaluable!) taken from page 90:
Sticky: Opaque, white, or yellow, occasionally clear. Can be fairly thick. Critical quality is its stickiness or lack of true wetness. May be crumbly or flaky like paste, or gummy and rubbery like rubber cement. may form small peaks when you separate with your fingers.
Creamy: Milky or cloudy, white or yellow. Creamy or lotiony. Wet, watery, or thin. When separating fingers, doesnt form peaks, but remains smooth like hand lotion.
EW: usually clear but can bave opaque streaks in it. Very slippery and wet, like raw eggwhite. Often causes extremely lubricative feel at vaginal opeing. May stretch from one to 10 inches.
Also this from page 85 and 86- focus on vaginal sensations throughout the day. Glance away before looking at the CF. Focus on the quality as you rub your fingers together, then see if it stretches. Underwear: very fertile CM often forms a fairly symmetrical round circle due to its high concentration of water. Nonwet CM tends to form more of a rectangular square or line.
Thank you for all


Me - CD 18 today. OPKs are all still negative. I'm tempted just to stop taking them because it is just soooooo disappointing to go day to day seeing negatives twice a day. I don't know what I'm going to do yet but I need to decide quickly. I might call up my ob/gyn today to see what they say about all this. Its been 12 days since my last clomid pill and I should have O'd by now. I have no stress that would delay it really. I was reading something last night that said that your pituitary gland is what produces the LH and it got me wondering if maybe I have something wrong with that. I don't know I'm trying not to get myself down over this but its so hard not to. Oh yeah and we didn't BD last night either like I wanted to. Thankfully this morning's temp was still down which means I still have a chance tonight.
Sam
Oh that sucks:( Hope you O soon!

Me, well, my temp's still down, and DH gets back home tonight. He knows that I will attack him and he's ready! :D And it looks as if we'll be heading to Ft. Lauderdale this weekend - he has a last-minute speaking engagement on SATURDAY (I hate when companies schedule their meetings on the weekend) so we're going down on the company's dime!
Oh! Yay for no O before DH returned and have fun in Ft. Lauderdale!

Morning! Well my temp was up again this morning! I am kind of freaking out. I can't really fathom that I would be lucky enough to get PG the first time trying. I guess we will see.
Yay for temp still being up!!! We need more BFP & I have a good feeling you may be one:D

Good morning ladies!
Today DH and I are leaving to go on vacation in Arizona. We're going to visit his sister and her DH, and my new little niece that was born in July. :D I will be sure to get lots of baby time! We're going to the Grand Canyon one day and we have a costume party to go to, but other than that we're just gonna relax and enjoy the warm weather. :)
I will have internet access, but I'm not sure how often I'll be able to get on and update. We come home on Nov. 1, so Robyn will get the new thread up and running for us.
My temp was still down this morning, but I got a +OPK yesterday so I'm thinking maybe I will O today. Hopefully my temp goes up tomorrow!
I would be sooooo disappointed if my O gets delayed b/c we're traveling today... **thinking happy O thoughts**
Have fun on your vacation and enjoy your niece! Hopeing O isn't delayed for you!

Since I mentioned our costume party, I thought it would be fun to post what we're wearing. And that brought me to a QOTD ~ Are you dressing up for Halloween or a costume party? If you are, show us your costume!
Cute costumes! QOTDWe may be going to a halloween dance but I'm really not sure if what well be dressing up as if we go!

Me ~ got some sticky CM this morning. Still waiting for the nurse to call me back. My boss & I were talking last night and he was saying how November is going to be a busy month for us, we are getting travel insurance, benefit renewals and we need to hire a lot of people. Yikes, I know what that means for me, working late, so that puts some strain on me but hopefully I can get through this cycle and start the next one with a BFP and still be able to do a good job at work.
Good luck at work in the upcoming month! Hoping that this cycle will be a BFP for you!

I decided not to give blood yesterday. I remember that one of the questions they ask you each time you donate is if you're PG, and the honest answer to that right now is "I don't know!" So I decided to pass this time.
Check out my chart! My temp dipped below coverline today, and I still have a week left before AF is due. If it goes back up tomorrow, part of me will be wondering if it's an implantation dip! However, I didn't see that when I was PG with #1, so I'm not going to get too excited about it.
Oh I'm crossing my fingers that it is an implantation dip!! Good luck:D

Me - Waiting patiently for my ob/gyn nurse to call me back. Oh yeah and my 10am opk.....NEGATIVE.
Sam
Stupid OPK...

Me-Temp is still up this morning, but again I'm trying to not get my hopes up. SO hard though!!

[FSUSammy]

Update!!

Just got a call back from my ob/gyn nurse. She told me that the pains I'm experiencing could very well be follicular cysts. She said that its possible that the doctor might want to do an ultrasound to verify that. So I went ahead and got their next appointment which isn't until tomorrow at 1pm. So we'll see what they say tomorrow.

Sam

[ceaserbride]

Sam- Glad you might be getting some answers! Hopefully everything works out!

[honeygirl]

Happy Birthday Mel!

Have a wonderful trip catlover, it's been a little colder her lately (AZ), even wet but should get sunny again soon! Of course our "colder" is upper 70's low 80's. ;)

Sammy - Yikes, I hope you don't have cysts! What is your average O date? My RE said that the clomid will help shorten a cycle, but I don't know by how much. It seems like the ladies in the clomid thread lost about 3-4 days off their usual cycle legth. Anyway, I can imagine it is very frustrating right now, I may be in the same boat in another 1-2 wks.

[FSUSammy]

honeygirl - I'm not sure what my average O date would be. I'd look at my chart to check but my work blocks ovusoft and fertilityfriend for some reason. My earliest I think was CD 15 and my latest was CD 62 (last cycle).

[ADSigMel]

filmgirl7 - Wow, congratulations on your first house! It doesn't look like your O will be delayed, though...your cycle looks to be following pretty much the same pattern as last month.

ceaserbride - Just doin' what I can with what I've got. :p You've only been charting a few weeks, so I'm sure you'll get the CM analysis sorted out. Did you read TCOYF? I hear it has very useful pictures for comparison.

cat_lover - *gasp* Do I spy a + OPK? :D If you've already had the LH surge, I don't think traveling can delay O, since the ball is already rolling. Be sure to get in lots of quality time with the baby, and have a great trip! Hopefully you'll be getting a BFP of your very own next month! P.S. Super cute costumes!

2 crazy pugs - Oh, yeah, that's a beautiful O! FF will call it tomorrow. Was your BD timing good? Fingers crossed that you get a BFP in a couple of weeks!

Sam - Yeah, I'm worried for you about the pain. If it were just that dosage of Clomid not working, that would be one thing, but the pain doesn't sound good at all. Glad the nurse got back to you...I hope the appointment tomorrow gives you good results instead of bad ones. I don't know anything about follicular cysts. Is that like PCOS? What would the treatment be for that?

Angie - You've got PCOS, right? Sucks that the met stopped working for you. So I guess the next step in the protocol would be Clomid?

EW: usually clear but can bave opaque streaks in it. Very slippery and wet, like raw eggwhite. Often causes extremely lubricative feel at vaginal opeing. May stretch from one to 10 inches.

10 inches?! I would go to the emergency room! That would freak me out! :p I guess your IUI was about an hour ago...here's hoping it worked and you'll be showing off a BFP in no time!

Mel - :eek: at AF being due the day of your surgery. But if you've been having annov cycles because of the illness, that's not a sure thing. Plus, the stress could very well delay O. I wouldn't worry too much about it. Thank goodness your husband's knee isn't infected! I hope they figure out why it's hurting. HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

Loud_curly - Whoo-hoo, yay for free trips to the beach! LOL that DH already knows you're going to attack him. :) Good luck catching that egg!

Dana - Ugh, sorry you've got such a busy time coming up. That bites that the nurse hasn't called you back yet! It always makes me so angry when health care professionals take so long to get back to people...don't they know we're freaking out here?!

DianeCourt - That dip does look incredibly promising. It's obviously not AF, not with your normal LP lengths. YAY!

***********************

I'm at CD41, and my temp is still down. I've given up on checking CM, since I don't expect to spontaneously O before my appointment next Wednesday, and even if I do, the egg will not be of sustainable quality. So I'm just waiting for my appointment. Hopefully I can get some Provera and some Clomid. Or something.

[BrownEyedGirl]

Well, I haven't been in here in awhile...actually a long while.

But I'm still in the game. You can update me to O'd Testing 11/02 I should probably wait a little longer to test, but that is DH's b-day and I'd love to give him positive news for a b-day present.

DH and I have been arguing so much about sex that I'm really hoping we don't have to try for a long time...it's just getting stressful and I don't know if I can handle it for too long.

[cat_loverpq]

ADSigMel ~ 10 inches?! I would go to the emergency room! That would freak me out! LOL! That reminds me of the part in the TCOYF book (I think) where the husband was on the phone with dr Toni thinking his wife had some sort of infection. And Toni said, something like "It's 10 inches?! What are doing on the phone with me?! Go get busy!" Ha ha! Not to freak you out or anything, but I actually had some of that just this morning! :D No, I didn't have a ruler with me in the bathroom or anything, but it was seriously long!

honeygirl ~ I will take your "colder" 80's over our REALLY chilly 40's! I checked the forecast and it says mid-80's and sunny every day. I can't wait! :) Where in AZ are you? We are heading to Phoenix...

BrownEyedGirl ~ Hey there! Sorry to hear things are getting stressful. Hopefully after this cycle you won't have to worry about it!

Off to update...

[honeygirl]

I'm in the Phoenix area. The sky is blue with white fluffy clouds. :) We had a storm come through b/c of the hurricane in Mexico. Hopefully it's blown right by and we can go back to the 80's you saw!

[FSUSammy]

ADSigMel - Apparently from what I've read online follicular cysts resolve on their own in 3-6 weeks. Hopefully its not that though. If anything maybe if I do have an u/s mabye the doc will be able to tell me if I'm close to Oing or what. Who knows guess I'll be finding out something tomorrow. Sorry that your temps are still down.

[Amuse Bouche]

I suck at SO's but Sammy - good luck with your US tomorrow! Hope you get some answers! And catlover -- have a good trip!


CD3 here. Felt like crap on Monday -- massive cramps, bloated, but yesterday I was back to my regular self and by tomorrow I think I should be starting the CM watch.

I gave DH TCOYF to read in bed last night (I figured he should have some knowledge of what the game plan is, so to speak, plus he's been having insomnia and I thought it would be a good bedtime read) and he was pretty funny. "The ovaries just release eggs into your abdominal cavity?" "Wait, it's STRETCHY? It can stretch up to 10 inches?" I told him yes, but I'm usually not THAT stretchy. Hee.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated

I hope you ladies don't mind, but I've moved several people to the "Chart not Updated -- Waiting for an update" category. If someone's chart hasn't been updated for several months, or if they don't have a chart link and haven't posted for a couple months I put them in this category. I've seen a lot of them in the Still At It thread, but wasn't sure if they still lurk here or not.

If any of these people are still around and want to be switched back to "Waiting to O" I will be happy to do it. :) I'm just trying to organize a little bit.

On the same topic, what does everyone think about "inactive" thread members? (By inactive I mean those who haven't posted for at least a couple months and/or haven't updated their chart.) Should we just leave them on the status page and members page until they post saying they want to be removed, or would it make sense to PM them and see if they still want to be part of the group? I'm not trying to kick anyone out or anything, just thought maybe we could "clean up" our status page a bit. :) Thoughts?

[FSUSammy]

Threadmistresss - I'd almost say let's see who comes out of the woodwork with this recent announcement. If there are still people that haven't said that they want to stay on the list after a few days/ a week then maybe PM them.

[polkadot]

ok so i havent been in posting in a while but I am following along....i guess i feel like I should have so much knoweldge in this area by now...but we are still at it and most of the time I am still just as confused by my body as the person who is charting for their first time..:o

That said...I am at cycle day 10 and I got the first high reading on my monitor,,,I know its probably due to the fact that I am on the estrogen to help my lining and CM quality but i think we will start bding every other day until I get a peak or a +OPK. I need to get to dollar tree to get some...other than that just the same ole stuff with me....hoping, wishing and praying for the best...sorry i am not the best at replies these days...hope you all understand....:p

[DelSol]

Threadmistress ~ I agree with Sammy, give them a week, see if they respond and then move them to an Inactive Section.


Sammy ~ good luck tomorrow.



Update on the Nurse:
I got call back from the nurse but I just happen to be not at my desk. I quickly returned her call but no one answered the phone which is odd because they have an automated message. So I am going to try back in a few more minutes.

[honeygirl]

Got our results back from the RE today. My cd2 b/w was normal (again). DH's SA was "concerning", not his results per say but the procedures at the lab. It appears that the "sample" wasn't evaluated until 11:15 and I dropped it off at 9:15. This is bad. They're checking back with the lab to verify a few things but he may have to re-do the SA at the RE's office (we'd have to pay for that one).

[FSUSammy]

DelSol - Stupid nurse for calling you when you weren't by your phone!!! That always happens. Have you been able to get ahold of her again?

Honeygirl - That's frustrating that the lab messed up with the SA. I'd be pissed that now you guys have to pay to redo it. Poor DH!

[DelSol]

I was able to get a hold of the nurse.

She was actually nice considering the ones I have run into are mean.

She talked to me about the annov cycle and that women do have them but when you are TTC it's not what you want to hear. She's not worried about my cycle right now since I don't have any nauseas or breast tenderness. I set up a consultation appointment with them to go over the TTC and what to look for, I figure this will help me put my mind at ease. I told her I was charting and she said I should bring my charts with me also and to not stop charting. She also said I could bring DH, I'll bring it up to him but I have a feeling he won't go, I know he'll go to the pregnancy appointments but this one I don't know. I'll be going next week on 11/2. I could have had an appointment on Monday but it was for 11:30AM and that's kinda hard for me to get to with working so I opted for the 11/2 at 4PM, this way I can leave work early and not worry about getting back on time.

[FSUSammy]

Dana - so glad you were able to finally talk to a nurse and make an appointment for next week.

[BrownEyedGirl]

Honeygirl...sorry you had such a bad experience with the lab. Poor DH!

[Jess71903]

DelSol- I am glad you are getting in to talk about TTC with your dr. I hope your DH decides to go with you, but I am sure it will be fine if he doesn't. I hope you get some info that will put your mind at ease!

honeygirl-I would be SO mad if they messed up the SA. I would also tell them that they owe you a free one since it wasn't your fault that they messed it up! I know it was hard to talk your DH into it in the first place, so I hope this doesn't send him over the edge!

polkadot- anybody that's in here for long enough will go through phases of posting frequency. We all understand! Take it easy, girl! Yay for a high reading, even if it is induced by what you're taking. Those hormones will make it happen, whether natural or not, right? I have toyed with the idea of taking a HPT since I triggered Monday(triggered with HCG), because it would be nice to see a + even if it's false!

Threadmistresss - I'd almost say let's see who comes out of the woodwork with this recent announcement. If there are still people that haven't said that they want to stay on the list after a few days/ a week then maybe PM them.
I totally agree with this. Give them a week, then PM.

FSUSammy- I was going to suggest asking if you could get a u/s to see what is going on in you ovaries. They could tell if you have any "ripe" ones that will O, and you can quit getting disappointed with the OPKs.

Amuse Bouche- too funny about DH's reaction to TCOYF! It just shows me how incredibly little they actually taught us in h.s. health class!

Well, I am all inseminated! It is raining today, and we just went to the employee area of the hospital parking lot where my dr's office is and put down the back seats in my Explorer so we could have plenty of room:p . My dr. called DH to the microscope to see his "boys" and said there were a whole lot of them and they looked hearty! So, I guess we'll know if it worked in about 2 weeks! Threadmistress: please me me to "I KNOW I O'd (saw it on u/s), testing around 11-8.

[Loud_curly]

Jess - YAY for the IUI and good swimmers!!! Hope those boys hurry up and find the egg! ;) Too funny about getting it on in the parking lot!

Delsol - Glad that a nurse who seems competent called you back and set up an appointment. Was she convinced it was an annov cycle? Did she suggest taking another HPT?

Honeygirl - That really sucks about the SA, but the results (you posted on another board) seem really decent for the delayed analysis. I would certainly let your insurance company know that their preferred lab screwed up, and you want another one done correctly at NO CHARGE! :mad:

Threadmistress - I agree with the others about the non-active members.

Granada - Your chart is looking great for 13 DPO - when are you testing?!?!

Polkadot - Please don't worry about not posting more often. After all you've been through, you certainly deserve a break from dealing with us on a daily basis. (((HUGS)))

Me, DH due in around 7:30 this evening :D

[granada]

Hi all! I'm sooo behind. :o

Jess71903 ~ I hoped it worked. Oh my, the parking lot. I'd be so :o. :)

Loud_curly ~ Have fun tonight!

Me ~ I actually think my temps are taking a slow slide down, so I'm expecting AF in the next couple of days. DH said next month we should BD while watching the Maury Povich Show, because those people don't seem to have a problem getting pg. lol. *sigh*

[honeygirl]

Me DH said next month we should BD while watching the Maury Povich Show, because those people don't seem to have a problem getting pg. lol. *sigh*

(wiping yogurt off the computer screen) LOL!!! I know it isn't funny but oh my that gave me a laugh.

Thanks Granada. Sorry about the temp slide btw. :(

[granada]

honeygirl ~ I am glad I can entertain. :)

[FSUSammy]

Jess - Yay!!! I'll be crossing my fingers and toes that this works for you girlie!!! That is hilarious that your DH prepared his sample in the parking lot.

Granada - I LOVE Your DH!!!! It's so funny because my DH loves Maury because its always the same 3 show types. LOL

[DelSol]

polkadot ~ it's good to see you. Have fun BDing.

Honeygirl ~ I'm sorry to hear the lab messed up, do you think you can get them to do it over w/o charge since it took them too long to at the little swimmers?

Jess ~ I have my fingers & toes crossed for you. Hey you gotta do what you gotta do to get those little swimmers right?

Loud_curly ~ she didn't seem worried at all, told me it was probably an annov cycle. She didn't say anything about testing again since I don't have any symptoms. Have fun tonight! ;)

granada ~ good thing I ate dinner before getting onto the computer and I wasn't sitting here in front of the computer because my pork & sauerkraut be all over the screen. Tell you DH that's a good one! :D I hope your temps are sliding too much.

sammy ~ good luck tomorrow!



I was thinking my DH should go to my appointment and learn the essence to BDing timing. :p But if he doesn't come that's ok, I'll fill him in.

[ABirney]

Hi ladies!
melandtim Happy bday! Also glad to hear DH doesn't have an infection in his knee, but hope they find out what's going on soon!
LoudCurly Glad your O waited for DH! Have fun in Ft Lauderdale!
2crazypugs Hope you caught your egg!
catlover Yay for good EWCM! Have fun in AZ visiting your new little niece!
DelSol Glad the dr office finally got back to you and you have an appt to see what's going on.
DianeCourt Happy bday to your DD. Hope that's an implant dip and it shoots way back up tomorrow!
Sam Glad you are able to get in to the dr tomorrow.
ceasarbride still looking good!
ADSigMel Yup I have PCOS/Insulin resistance. My dr hasn't said specifically what's next (I'm supposed to touch base w/ him middle of Nov.) but my guess would be Clomid. Good luck at your appt next week! Hope they get your long cycles figured out.
BrownEyedGirl Welcome back. Yay for O'ing! Hope you can give DH a good bday present.
Amuse Sorry AF has been yucky. Too funny about your DH's comments reading TCOYF.
polkadot Hope you O soon!
honeygirl That sucks about the lab screwing up! Glad your bw was ok.
jess Glad the IUI went good.
granada LOL about DH's Maury comment! Your temps are still way above the CL, so don't give up hope yet! It's not over till she shows.

Nothing new here, DH is still at work, who knows when he'll get home. (His coworker is on vacation, which means extra long hours for him doing the work of 2 people.) So just home alone with the cats and a snoring dog. :)

[polkadot]

Jess~ You are too funny!!Well, I am all inseminated! I hope this is it for you..that would be so great!!

Thanks to everyone for not making me feel bad about not posting and giving advice...i love you guys!!

[melandtim]

Thanks again everyone for the Bday wishes. it was a really sucky day. DH didn't get home from work till about 9 which is when I go to bed so I spent the entire night totally alone :(

Jess - good luck! Keeping all my fingers and toes crossed for you that this worked!!!

Granada - that is hilarious!! Maybe Springer would work too!! all those women are always PG and they never know who the daddy is :p

Honeygirl - I can't believe the lab screwed up, how annoying.

ADSigMel - I was actually just thinking as well that my annovulatory cycles are due to being sick. While I have had them here and there since going off BCP it hasn't been every month like it has the last 3

CD20 for me and having major cramps. I am so hoping AF arrives early. Could be due to the gall bladder aswell but who knows at this point.

[FSUSammy]

Mel - I'm sooooo sorry you had a crappy Bday! We should have thrown you a HUGE virtual birthday party on here. I'm sure all of us would have if we would have known that you were going to be all alone with the animals the entire day. Hope your DH makes it up to you!!!

Me - CD 19 today. Still having some bad o pains. At times they are painful and make you stop in your tracks but thankfully its not all the time. I'm looking forward to my appointment today. I'm really hoping he does an ultrasound. My temp went up today from 97.2 yesterday to 97.6 today. Not sure if that means anything really. All OPKs are still VERY negative. I'll take another one today around 10am. I might have to run out on Friday and buy some more OPKs if I don't get a positive soon. I was hoping to BD last night but DH was VERY exhausted. He has been VERY tired lately and he thinks he's not getting enough sleep so he took a sleeping pill last night to help. I just hope that I get a positive opk before I do O that way I can definitely demand to BD otherwise we will more than likely completely miss our chance this month. The whole thing with DH basically turning me down is really making me reconsider taking clomid next cycle (if there is a next cycle of course).

Sam

[melandtim]

Thanks Sammy. All the Bday wishes from you guys really cheered me a bunch. There was apparently a surprise party being planned for me but that seems to have been thrown aside too :(

[2 Crazy Pugs]

Morning Ladies!

Hope everyone is doing well! If you have a chance, can you look at my chart, tell me what you think.....

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/168fad

[kanga1622]

My first post was eaten so this will be shorter.
Sammy-Good luck with the ultrasound today. Hopefully you get good news of some sort.
Jess-Congrats on the IUI. How are you going to even make it to 10DPO before testing? I don't think I'd have that much willpower.
Polkadot-I don't weigh in a lot on charts either. Mine are usually pretty clear cut so it is hard for me to interpret someone else's chart when it isn't as clear.
Honeygirl-I'd make them redo the SA free of charge. It wasn't your error and the results are unusable since they waited so long.

[Loud_curly]

Argh - I deleted everything I had just typed!!! Anyway,

Granada - Your DH is hysterical!!! I hope this month is it for you guys -hold out hope re your temps, since today is 14 DPO! Hope we get some good news here!

Mel - Sorry your birthday sucked (((HUGS))). I think you should demand extra attention and pampering this weekend to make up for it. :D

2 crazy pugs - Yep, you definitely Oed. Welcome to the 2ww - feel free to obsess with us! ;)

Caesarbride - Your chart is still looking good!

Delsol - IMO, I would try to get your DH to come to your dr. appt. My DH came with me to the preconception meeting, and I think it helped him feel more involved in the process and in control as well. FWIW, my dr. recommending BDing every 36 hours during the fertile period.

Sammy - I really hope your dr. appt. today will help clarify what's going on with your body. I agree that continuing to get - OPKs would be really frustrating, esp. if you were supposed to have an early O.

ABirney - My DH works late all the time. Luckily, my 2 cats keep me company. :rolleyes:

Me, well DH and I got it on last night. ;) My temp today were slightly up, but I definitely need a few more days worth of temps to get a feel for things. Last night was the first night I passed out dressed in long sleeves and socks, which could have warmed my temps up a bit. I'm hoping that we get one more BDing session in tonight before I O (today is CD15, last month I Oed on CD 16).

[DianeCourt]

Good morning, ladies!

Loud_curly: Good luck these next few days as you wait to O!
2 Crazy Pugs: You definitely O'd. Now the 2WW starts for you....hang in there!
mel: Sorry about your b-day. :( If it's any consolation, mine wasn't the greatest this year, either!
Sammy: I'm glad you're getting into the doc today - can't wait to hear what they say.
polkadot: Say hi whenever you feel like it & don't feel bad about not posting more. It's hard to keep up with this thread!!! We're thinking about you when you're not here, though.

I'm 8 DPO and I'm coming down with a cold! :( I definitely had a dip of some sort yesterday, but I'm not convinced that it's implantation related. I'm comparing this month's chart to my PG chart and my temps started to go triphasic around this point. I'm not seeing that this time.

[melandtim]

Diane - maybe its a trend!!

Loud Curly - I like your idea but maybe I should wait for the real pampering when I have my surgery next week!! Good luck for tonight!

2 crazy pugs - I have a hard enough time interpreting my chart so I won't even attempt someone else's. Do they have a Charting for Dummies book?? I think I would be a good candidate!

[DelSol]

Threadmistress ~ can you move me to "What the Bleep is Going on".

melandtim ~ sorry your b-day turned out to be sucky. I hope DH does something nice for you.

Loud_curly ~ I'm going to talk to with him about it. I was tired last night and just wanted to sleep that I didn't tell him about the appointment. We're going to happy hour tonight so I'll tell him afterwards. Have fun BDing.

Sammy ~ sorry your DH is tired, I wonder if something is going around. I'm tired all the time and I know I should get more sleep but it never happens. I use to take sleeping pills but I've only taken 1 since we started trying. Good Luck today.

2 Crazy Pugs ~ I'm not a chart expert but I do see a dip in your temp. I agree with Mel, I need a "Charting for Dummies" book.

DianeCourt ~ good luck, I hope it means something.

me ~ CD36
My solid line disappeared and I know how crosshairs, I tried taking out the high temps but I still get crosshairs. Last night I did have some major sticky CM so I think me drinking Green Tea is working.

Dumb Question:
If I am having an annov cycle, can I still ovulate later? Since an egg wasn’t released around CD15, does that mean 2 eggs will be released? I was thinking about this last night but LOST was on and I couldn't remove myself from the TV. :o

[FSUSammy]

Dana - You most certainly can O later. And no only 1 egg will still be released, granted you can have a freak of nature and have 2 released at the same time. LOL Take a look at my chart from last cycle where I O'd MUCH later.

[DianeCourt]

[COLOR="Red"]I was thinking about this last night but LOST was on and I couldn't remove myself from the TV. :o

I know....wasn't "Lost" great last night? LOVE that show. :p

[jessied1025]

Hey Ladies,

No time for so's right now...

ThreadmisstressPlease update me to "Think I O'd. Testing week of Nov 6th.

I'm on CD17, but my temps have been all over the place. The OPK test I took on CD11 was dark, but probably could have been darker...I still marked it as positive. We'll see if I was right. I had a little bit of spotting yesterday and after we BD on Tuesday night. My guess is the spotting is from BDing, anyone else ever experienced this?

[cat_loverpq]

Hey ladies! No time for S/O, but I can probably get on later and do updates. I love sunny AZ! Temp went up slightly, but with the time change and the fact that our room was pretty warm, I'm not sure I can call it O yet. We'll find out tomorrow I suppose!

[ABirney]

Good morning ladies, just a quick post before I head to work..
melandtim sorry your bday sucked.
FSUSam Good luck at your appt today, hope they figure things out!
2crazypugs I would say you O'd, welcome to the 2WW!
LoudCurly Go catch that egg!
DianeCourt Hope you feel better soon!
jessied yay for O'ing! On occassion I've spotted after BD, esp it it was more ummm.. vigorous than usual. :o

Hope everyone else has a great day!

[tealynn]

Hey girlies-you all are so great! Thanks for being especially supportive this week about my unwanted visitor. Nothin' a little advil and chocolate can't fix...

Abirney, I'm so glad to see you've moved on to the next cycle instead of sitting there wondering what the "bleep" is going on...

Jessied, I definitely spot after BDing many times, even when it's low key sex. It also depends on how close I am to O'ing or gettting AF.

Diane, That definitely could be a implantation dip and I've heard many ladies say they feel like they're coming down w/ something as a PG symptom. Keep things crossed for you.

Catlover, glad you're enjoying yourself in sunny AZ! My DH and I are dressing as Dorothy and the Tin Man. He's making his own costume!

Loud_Curly, I think it's my turn to cheer you on ;) Catch that egg!

Jess, My fingers are SOOOO crossed for you. Are you feeling any different at all??? I need more details about the IUI...

Honeygirl, Goodluck w/ getting your hubby to retake the SA...

Sammy, How're those ovaries doing??? Let us know what's up?

Melandtim, hope AF doesn't arrive until after your surgery and hopefully you'll feel much better too!

Adsigmel, you're a trooper. Hope you get a positive OPK reading before the new year ;)

Well, after the ol bitch showed up on Tuesday, I did some research on my health plan and found out that my insurance covers most forms of fertility treatment including testing, IUI, and IVF (I pay 50% co-pay, whatever that means). I have an appt w/ my GYN on Nov 15 for a referral and we'll see what happens from there. For now, I just have to focus on my next cycle...and hope for the best.

[FSUSammy]

Hey ladies. I'm back from my appt. I'm kinda irritated. I didn't get an u/s or anything. The doc felt internally and insists that I've O'd. I told him that I've been taking opks twice a day and they have all been negative and he said that opks don't work with clomid, that's weird because I've heard of MANY women that use opks with clomid. WTF! Then....I told him that I don't have any of the normal symtpoms that I have every cycle after I O and he still insisted that I probably O'd over the weekend. I didn't tell him that I'm charting because I don't want him to really piss me off by telling me that charting doesn't work. Well regardless he wants me to get a sonogram next Friday to check to see if my ovaries are back to normal. And since the doc isn't in the office that same day I have to go back for a follow up appointment that following monday. Oh yeah and he insists on doing a PG test next Friday too. Ugh I'm so frustrated now!!!

Sam

[RobynScott]

Sammy - sorry for the frusrtation! How can he tell if you O'ed just by feeling your ovaries?

Ugh - I hope you get some useful information soon.


HAPPY BIRTHDAY MEL!

Apologies for not getting in any other SO's - I know I suck at them! sorry!
Me - I'm just hanging out here. CD 24 here - not much going on. Expecting Af in a week or so and then will take it from there (and probably start temping again)

[FSUSammy]

Robyn - He can't tell. He based it on his stupid calendar. I MUST have O'd because based on the stupid calendar I should have O'd over the weekend. I'm sooooo mad right now if you can't tell. LOL

[ceaserbride]

I'm at CD41, and my temp is still down. I've given up on checking CM, since I don't expect to spontaneously O before my appointment next Wednesday, and even if I do, the egg will not be of sustainable quality. So I'm just waiting for my appointment. Hopefully I can get some Provera and some Clomid. Or something.
Hoping the Dr. can help you out!

But I'm still in the game. You can update me to O'd Testing 11/02 I should probably wait a little longer to test, but that is DH's b-day and I'd love to give him positive news for a b-day present.
Hoping you can give DH a nice surprise on his birthday! Good luck.

I gave DH TCOYF to read in bed last night (I figured he should have some knowledge of what the game plan is, so to speak, plus he's been having insomnia and I thought it would be a good bedtime read) and he was pretty funny. "The ovaries just release eggs into your abdominal cavity?" "Wait, it's STRETCHY? It can stretch up to 10 inches?" I told him yes, but I'm usually not THAT stretchy. Hee.
Thats hillarious. The first time I mentioned "cervical mucus" to dh, he was like "that is absolutly discusting...don't say those words ever again!"

Well, I am all inseminated! It is raining today, and we just went to the employee area of the hospital parking lot where my dr's office is and put down the back seats in my Explorer so we could have plenty of room:p . My dr. called DH to the microscope to see his "boys" and said there were a whole lot of them and they looked hearty! So, I guess we'll know if it worked in about 2 weeks! Threadmistress: please me me to "I KNOW I O'd (saw it on u/s), testing around 11-8.
Good luck. I really hope this works for you!

Me[/B] ~ I actually think my temps are taking a slow slide down, so I'm expecting AF in the next couple of days. DH said next month we should BD while watching the Maury Povich Show, because those people don't seem to have a problem getting pg. lol. *sigh*
I too lol when I heard this...hey, it's worth a try!

Thanks again everyone for the Bday wishes. it was a really sucky day. DH didn't get home from work till about 9 which is when I go to bed so I spent the entire night totally alone :(
CD20 for me and having major cramps. I am so hoping AF arrives early. Could be due to the gall bladder aswell but who knows at this point.
Hope you can get onto next cycle shortly!

Me, well DH and I got it on last night. ;) My temp today were slightly up, but I definitely need a few more days worth of temps to get a feel for things. Last night was the first night I passed out dressed in long sleeves and socks, which could have warmed my temps up a bit. I'm hoping that we get one more BDing session in tonight before I O (today is CD15, last month I Oed on CD 16).
Hopefully you O'd since you and DH DTD!

I'm 8 DPO and I'm coming down with a cold! :( I definitely had a dip of some sort yesterday, but I'm not convinced that it's implantation related. I'm comparing this month's chart to my PG chart and my temps started to go triphasic around this point. I'm not seeing that this time.
Hey, we are so hoping it's implantation related!

Threadmistress ~ can you move me to "What the Bleep is Going on".
me ~ CD36
My solid line disappeared and I know how crosshairs, I tried taking out the high temps but I still get crosshairs. Last night I did have some major sticky CM so I think me drinking Green Tea is working.
Yay for green tea working:D

Hey ladies! No time for S/O, but I can probably get on later and do updates. I love sunny AZ! Temp went up slightly, but with the time change and the fact that our room was pretty warm, I'm not sure I can call it O yet. We'll find out tomorrow I suppose!
Glad your having a great time!

Well, after the ol bitch showed up on Tuesday, I did some research on my health plan and found out that my insurance covers most forms of fertility treatment including testing, IUI, and IVF (I pay 50% co-pay, whatever that means). I have an appt w/ my GYN on Nov 15 for a referral and we'll see what happens from there. For now, I just have to focus on my next cycle...and hope for the best.
That's great about your benifits. Good luck on your next cycle.

Hey ladies. I'm back from my appt. I'm kinda irritated. I didn't get an u/s or anything. The doc felt internally and insists that I've O'd. I told him that I've been taking opks twice a day and they have all been negative and he said that opks don't work with clomid, that's weird because I've heard of MANY women that use opks with clomid. WTF! Then....I told him that I don't have any of the normal symtpoms that I have every cycle after I O and he still insisted that I probably O'd over the weekend. I didn't tell him that I'm charting because I don't want him to really piss me off by telling me that charting doesn't work. Well regardless he wants me to get a sonogram next Friday to check to see if my ovaries are back to normal. And since the doc isn't in the office that same day I have to go back for a follow up appointment that following monday. Oh yeah and he insists on doing a PG test next Friday too. Ugh I'm so frustrated now!!!
Sam
Sorry your Dr. didn't give you the answers you wanted & no u/s. Will you test on Friday just to follow dr.s orders?? If so, hey you never know...good luck!

Me- BLAH!!! My temp dropped this morning...but not *alot* but still significantly..not what i wanted to see. Do you girls think I'm outta the game with this drop?? I'm mean I guess it has been lower in my post O temps..but...Okay I think I'm over analizing my chart, can you over analize a chart??? I just want this so bad & it's bugging the hell outa me since we are both very younge healthy adult!! WTH??? Anyway I'll stop rambling...lemme know what ya'll think. Thanks:D haha!

[FSUSammy]

caesar - I think the doc is going to do the pg test next week. No reason to though, its going to be a BFN. I'm convinced!

[honeygirl]

Oh FSU that totally sucks! Can you switch Dr's yet? I'd be SO pissed if I was you. I hadn't heard that OPK's don't work with clomid? I think he's full of sh*t.

Sorry. :(

ceaserbride - Yes and no. :) Meaning, I think it is completely normal to analyze (or over analyze) our charts! However, I've looked at lots of pregnancy charts (on FF and OS if you really want to obsess) and temps really don't mean much. They go up and down it seems equally and women still get BFP's. So try not to stress.

Me:
So ladies, I've decided not to worry about DH's SA. Actually so far this has been a very calm cycle, I'm doing well at not worrying. Of course it's only cd8, lol. I guess I figure that this is probably a "research" cycle to see if clomid helps regulate my cycle more than trying to get a BFP. So, with less pressure I'm worrying less. :)

I figure that his results are probably just fine if they were average with poor testing procedures (done late). Meaning that if they were done on time they probably would have been even better. It makes sense to me anyway.

I took my 4th Clomid pill today and I don't seem to be having any major symptoms yet. No headaches, not really more moody than usual, no hot flashes, etc. We'll see if that continues, I've heard the symptoms get worse about a wk after you stop taking the pills.

[FSUSammy]

honeygirl - The only reason why I wouldn't want to switch ob/gyn's is because he's one of the best in my area. He's actually the chief of obstetrics at the hospital that I'd be delivering at whenever I am PG. Maybe he just doesn't know enough about clomid to really know what he's talking about? I don't know. Glad you aren't having any clomid s/e.

[FSUSammy]

I know a few of you ladies go to an RE. Can I ask you all a few questions???

- Do most RE's want you to be TTC for a certain amount of time before you see them?

- Do insurance's cover RE visits? I have BCBS PPO but it doesn't have infertility coverage.

Thanks!
Sam

[lawphil]

FSUSammy --

I have BC/BS PPO but mine does have some infertility coverage. The best option is to call the 800 number on the back of your card (or is it 866 # - whatever it is choose the right exchange because I dialed the other one once and it was a sex line...it took me a few minutes to catch on that it was not my insurance company!).

Anyway, each insurance company and plan is different.

Mine for example does not require a letter of referral from my obgyn and it covers all testing. It also covers 3 IUI and 3IVF but it contracts out the drug part so I will find that out if/when I need to go down that road. I found all that out by calling the number on the back of my card. Oh, they also check the names of the RE's I had been referred to to make sure they were in my plan.

So far, I have been doing preliminary testing - day 3 blood, Sono, HSG, Follicle Check, SA and all have been covered by insurance but each time I go in I need to pay the $20 co-pay. It has turned out to be $40/week.

In terms of the RE. Mine did not ask 'have you been trying for a year' to determine if my concerns were valid. So I think the one year thing is a standard that obgyn's & insurance companies use but it is not necessarily a valid standard. The thing to remember is that obgyn's do 4 weeks of fertility class while RE's go through several years. infertility is not really is not an obgyn's speciality, so even the best obgyn's are not equipped to handle infertility issues.

[honeygirl]

Sammy - I also have BCBS PPO, but I have infertility coverage (I'm pretty sure it varies by state requirements). Try the BCBS website and see if there are RE's on the plan in your area. That's how I found my RE. Or.. you can call the 1800# and after about 5 minutes and pressing 15 buttons you will get someone to answer your ?'s. When you make an appt with the RE's office they check into what your insurance covers so that you are prepared with what it will cost.

Also, if you are referred for something other than "infertility" like LPD or PCOS, etc, you may find more coverage. Lawphil is correct (I think I posted this stat a few wks ago about their education amounts) that a gyn knows FAR less than a RE, just by their amount of time learning about infertility issues. So your DR may be the top ob, but it appears he knows jack about infertility. You can keep him as your gyn and go back once your pregnant. That's what I'm doing with my gyn.

[jrbnj]

Hello there. I'm ready to join the group even though I am an admitted lurker and not much of a poster. Here is my info:

CC Name: jrbnj
Me: Jen/30
DH: SB/29 (will be 30 next month)
DS: CB 12/3/05
Married since: 10/19/02
Off BCP since: 8/06
TTC since: 9/06
Charting since: will start this cycle
Current status: waiting to O

[FSUSammy]

Welcome Jen!

[ceaserbride]

Me:
So ladies, I've decided not to worry about DH's SA. Actually so far this has been a very calm cycle, I'm doing well at not worrying. Of course it's only cd8, lol. I guess I figure that this is probably a "research" cycle to see if clomid helps regulate my cycle more than trying to get a BFP. So, with less pressure I'm worrying less. :)
Worrying less is always good! Good luck with Clomid!

Hello there. I'm ready to join the group even though I am an admitted lurker and not much of a poster.

Welcome!! It's okay if you're more of a lurker..I started out that way too. Hope you stay is Short & Sweet! Good luck with this cycle.

[FSUSammy]

Lawphil and honeygirl - Thank you both for the info. I sooooo appreciate everything you guys said. I did some research online and found an RE close to home actually and they had a website and I emailed them asking about coverage because they had BCBS listed but they said to inquire about it. I'll probably call them anyways tomorrow because I don't like waiting. LOL Quick question. Is there typically a long wait to get in to see an RE???

[oceanblue]

ceasarbride-I think your chart still looks good. When are you going to test?

Welcome Jen! I'm happy to see a fellow Dec. 05 mom at it again!!

Me-CD3 and AF is pretty much leaving the building. Now starts the joy of CM checking!!

[filmgirl7]

Robyn - He can't tell. He based it on his stupid calendar. I MUST have O'd because based on the stupid calendar I should have O'd over the weekend. I'm sooooo mad right now if you can't tell. LOL

I don't understand how he can know that you ovulated by the days of the calendar?! Isn't that the least accurate method of predicting fertility? *confused*

[filmgirl7]

Me- BLAH!!! My temp dropped this morning...but not *alot* but still significantly..not what i wanted to see. Do you girls think I'm outta the game with this drop?? I'm mean I guess it has been lower in my post O temps..but...Okay I think I'm over analizing my chart, can you over analize a chart???[/QUOTE]

Your temp didn't drop too much, I would definitely say you're still in it. Give it another few days. Good luck!

[honeygirl]

Lawphil and honeygirl - Thank you both for the info. I sooooo appreciate everything you guys said. I did some research online and found an RE close to home actually and they had a website and I emailed them asking about coverage because they had BCBS listed but they said to inquire about it. I'll probably call them anyways tomorrow because I don't like waiting. LOL Quick question. Is there typically a long wait to get in to see an RE???

You are very welcome. And yes, there is typically a long wait to see an RE, especially if you live in an area where there are few. It took me 2-3 months to get into my RE I think. I've heard upwards of 6mo to get an appt for some! So make one now. Good for you for doing the research btw. :)

[FSUSammy]

Hey ladies. I guess I can't go see an RE. The RE that I emailed earlier called me back and told me to call up BCBS and ask about infertility coverage. Well I did and just so happens I have nothing. I can't even go to an RE to get diagnosed because more than likely they will code it as infertility. Ugh this is frustrating!

[ceaserbride]

ceasarbride-I think your chart still looks good. When are you going to test?
Me-CD3 and AF is pretty much leaving the building. Now starts the joy of CM checking!!
Thank you...yay for CM checking:p

Your temp didn't drop too much, I would definitely say you're still in it. Give it another few days. Good luck!
Thank you!

Hey ladies. I guess I can't go see an RE. The RE that I emailed earlier called me back and told me to call up BCBS and ask about infertility coverage. Well I did and just so happens I have nothing. I can't even go to an RE to get diagnosed because more than likely they will code it as infertility. Ugh this is frustrating!
Ugh..that completely sucks!!!! Okay, I don't know anything about health care in the US but what does your regular family dr. have to see to help you?? I mean like..how "bad" does it have to get or "long" do you have to be ttc for. And then will he/she help your or just refer you to an RE??

On of my journal buddies just made a good point about my chart as well..I'm always looking at one specific temp when i really should be looking at the pattern. If you look at it that way, and look at the whole picture, me temp is still "up" right??:confused:

[Loud_curly]

Caesarbride - Your friend is correct - you're looking for a pattern. Your temps are still above the coverline, so they are still up. For many charters (but definitely NOT all), their temp will fall below the coverline on the day AF arrives. So you're definitely still in the game. Have you played with the chart gallery on FF? I'm guessing you'll see lots of charts like yours - some that ended in pg, and some that ended in AF.

Filmgirl - Looks like you and I are still pretty much together - O seems imminent for both of us!

Sammy - Wow, that sucks about no RE coverage. :mad: Can you switch to another insurance plan during open enrollment, or have your DH cover you (or cover yourself)? Maybe you can find another OB, or at least get a second opinion?

Jen - Welcome!

Honeygirl - I know we've all heard stories about couples who were TTC for awhile taking a relaxing break, and then getting pg! Hope that works for you as well!

Granada - Where are you?!? Your temps are still high, and it's 14 DPO. You're killing us here having to wait like this ;)

[Jess71903]

Jess-Congrats on the IUI. How are you going to even make it to 10DPO before testing?
I have NO idea! I am already dying and it's only 1 DPiui!
had a little bit of spotting yesterday and after we BD on Tuesday night. My guess is the spotting is from BDing, anyone else ever experienced this?
no, but TCOYF says that a lot of ladies claim to have AF every 2 weeks, when actually they have O spotting. Maybe that's what it is!

Jess, My fingers are SOOOO crossed for you. Are you feeling any different at all??? I need more details about the IUI...

I did some research on my health plan and found out that my insurance covers most forms of fertility treatment ...
Thank you!:D I feel different because I keep thinking about it, when I usually don't! As for IUI details...let me see...well, I took Clomid CD 3-7, repronex CD 8-11. I was supposed to come in for a u/s of my ovaries CD 11, but it was a Sunday, so I went CD 12. I got the dildo cam, and I could see my uterus (tiny little thing) and then my ovaries with this big black spaces, which were the follies. I had 2 on the left, and one on the right, which was the dominant one, and the one that eventually O'd. So at that u/s appt, she gave me a Rx for HCG, to trigger O, and DH's cup for his "collection". I had to take the trigger shot 36 hours before my appointment (yesterday). When I got there yesterday, I "turned in" DH's sample and we went back to the room. She u/s'd me again, and could tell that the 2 on the left were still there and the one on the right was smaller and looked "deflated" and hazy, indicating that it had released the egg. She spun DH's sample to separate the semen from the sperm, then added some kind of liquid medium back to it. She used a speculum and cleaned my cervix with betadine. Then she inserted a catheter, "bounced" on the top of my uterus to make sure she was all the way up in there, and injected the sperm. This part made me cramp some, and I wouldn't do it just for fun, but it wasn't that bad. She made me lay still for about 20 minutes, although she said it probably makes no difference but it makes her feel better. She told me to call if I got a + test! I got dressed and that's it! DH said we can handle $192/month if that's what it takes, so if this doesn't work, we will be doing it again.

Robyn - He can't tell. He based it on his stupid calendar. I MUST have O'd because based on the stupid calendar I should have O'd over the weekend. I'm sooooo mad right now if you can't tell. LOL
This makes me so mad! How is it that I can pick up and read one little book and know more about the reproductive system than someone who went to school for several years just for that reason? OBVIOUSLY if you go by your past calendar, I guess he would say you had something like a 30 day LP, huh?

I can't help you out on the ins. info. I hope you get it figured out!

Me- BLAH!!! My temp dropped this morning...but not *alot* but still significantly..not what i wanted to see. Do you girls think I'm outta the game with this drop?? I just want this so bad & it's bugging the hell outa me since we are both very younge healthy adult!! WTH???
You're killing me!;) Yes, I think you are still in the game. Your temps are going to fluctuate day-to-day, and you're friend is right, it is the pattern. As for you being young and healthy...me too! I just don't want you to think that just because you are young and healthy, that you will get pg right away. Everything could be perfect in any given cycle and it still might not happen. That doesn't mean anything is wrong...not trying to knock you down, I just hate when people get their hopes up so high and then they are crushed...I hope you don't take this the wrong way! I hope it does happen quickly for you!

I took my 4th Clomid pill today and I don't seem to be having any major symptoms yet.
I am glad the Clomid is being nice to you! I hope those s/e's never show up!
Hello there. I'm ready to join the group even though I am an admitted lurker and not much of a poster.

Welcome to the group! Did you chart with DC#1 or are you completely new to it?

Me- nothing new. Just some serious obsessing! Just FYI if you guys look at my chart...I didn't temp this month because of all the drugs, but I did enter all the drugs and IUI date and all. I added in crosshairs for my O day, since I know when it happened....I just picked a random coverline.

[granada]

Loud_curly ~ Am I the only one who has no hope for me for this cycle. :cool: I just don't like my sliding temps. I got myself too worked up last month, and I was really disappointed. So, I'm just going to continue to assume that AF is coming. Plus, last month at 14DPO, my temp was 98.1 and the next day it plummeted.

It is nice to know someone is watching my chart, though. :)

[kris97]

*delurking* still holding out hope for you too, granada!

[FSUSammy]

Ugh..that completely sucks!!!! Okay, I don't know anything about health care in the US but what does your regular family dr. have to see to help you?? I mean like..how "bad" does it have to get or "long" do you have to be ttc for. And then will he/she help your or just refer you to an RE??

Well apparently according to my insurance its not a matter of being referred to an RE. The kind of insurance I have I can go to whatever doctor I want. But the problem is my insurance won't cover anything if the reason is coded as infertility.


Wow, that sucks about no RE coverage. :mad: Can you switch to another insurance plan during open enrollment, or have your DH cover you (or cover yourself)? Maybe you can find another OB, or at least get a second opinion?

During open enrollment I only have a choice between BCBS PPO or HMO. I have the PPO. I doubt the HMO will offer anything better. DH's open enrollment isn't until July so I'd have to wait until then! I might need to look into a second opinion like you said.

[FSUSammy]

Loud_curly: I checked DH's insurance book last night. He has United Healthcare and they don't offer any kind of reproduction coverage at all. So moving to his insurance won't do me any good. What a huge disappointment.

RP from SWH:

Me - CD 20 today. Last night's opk was negative, of course. What a surprise! Last night was interesting. DH had a function with work last night, it was employee only. He didn't come home until after 11pm. I was already in bed and irritated because I didn't realize I'd be alone ALL night long. Well he was watching tv in the room with the light on and I couldn't go back to sleep plus I noticed some major major o pains on my right side. So bad that I had to get up and get some Aleve. Well as soon as DH turned the light off around 1am I decided that I honestly I think I'm close to Oing and when its comes to choosing between BDing to catch the egg and sleep I'll have to choose BDing. So I made my move and he cooperated! LOL So we BD'd very early this morning. I'll take another opk around 10am again I really am hoping its positive because I also noticed last night that I was starting to feel hotter again. And my CM wasn't as EW-ish as it has been in the past few days. If its not positive I'll have to stop by the dollar store after work and try to pick up some opks from there and I might even hit target to pick up some regular clearblues from there too. I MUST catch this positive. I really don't want to have to have another cycle on clomid if I can absolutely avoid it.

Sam

[ABirney]

Just have time for a super-quick post but welcome jen Hope you O soon Sam and how's your temp today granada?
CD7 here, my temps are all over the place, hope they even out soon.

[cowgirl]

Sorry no time for Shout Outs. But Welcome jrbnj!!!

Well Af showed up yesterday ugh. threadmistress please up date my age to 29. thanks My bday is tomorrow was hoping for a bfp as my present.

[kanga1622]

Hello there. I'm ready to join the group even though I am an admitted lurker and not much of a poster.Welcome aboard!

Sammy-I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.

[Loud_curly]

Sammy - That really sucks about the insurance. FINGERS CROSSED that you finally get your +OPK reading today, since your BD timing was good! Love the story about seducing your DH - don't you love when we have to do all the work? ;)

Granada and Caesarbride - How are those temps today?

DianeCourt - Looks like it was the mythical "implantation" dip. I guess it's only a few more days until you'll know for sure.

Cowgirl - Sorry about AF :(.

Kanga - Your chart's looking mighty pretty - I think it's gone triphasic!!!

Me - I was successfully able to get DH to BD last night - I did all of the pre-game warmup, but he finally came around. And I didn't need Preseed this go round (sorry for the TMI). When I told him my temps were still low this morning and we needed to DTD again, he looked at me and said "Sat. morning then, remember the dr. said every 36 hours." So cute - he's so tired!! If my cycle holds true, I'll O sometime today (although I thought it would be last night - I had some cramping).

[FSUSammy]

Hey ladies. Does anyone know how we are supposed to adjust our waking time for temping this weekend due to the time changing. I remember in April Ovusoft told me exactly what time to wake up each day to properly adjust but I haven't seen that happen yet. Just checking.

[melandtim]

Sam - I think its .10 for every hour you wake up late.

CD 21 for me and temp way up to today. FF is saying I O'd on CD 18 not that it matters this month. I'm getting a cold.

[DelSol]

Little Venting Ahead

I'm so ticked right now, I grew up with my mom's best friend's children. We lived in the same neighborhood and played together. Well the 1st daughter who is as old as me, just had her 3rd child on Tuesday, a boy who they named Noah. Of course that is one of the names I like so I guess I can't use it because it would like I was coping off of them. So my mom calls me just a little while ago and says, oh guess what so and so (Daughter #2) is pregnant again with her 2nd child. I said oh go figure. Then I had to hear how she was due in May. So of course I was thinking had I gotten pregnant right away I'd be due in May also. Then my mom was saying you and your sister need to get at it because she only has 1 grandchild and her best friend will have 5. I didn't say anything to my mom because she doesn't know we are TTC. I sent my sister and email and said did you hear the news about so and so and she said yes and I wrote back to her guess you need to start trying for #2.

I don't know if I want to be pissy today or cry. :mad: :(

I'll be back later on with shout-outs.

[DelSol]

Sammy~ I got this from FF:

Do I have to do anything special to chart my BBT when the time changes for Daylight Saving Time?


The effect of Daylight Saving Time (DST) on your temperature is usually limited to the day of the change because you adjust quite quickly. In addition, the exact effect depends strongly on your own metabolism. Some people will see no effect at all while others will see a slight change (increase or decrease). Because in general having one temperature slightly off will not change your chart interpretation, Fertility Friend's recommendation is to record your temperature as usual without correcting it in any manner. We recommend that you keep taking the temp at the same time. If you took it at 6 in the morning before the change, then take it at 6 in the morning after the change.

[FSUSammy]

Dana - Sorry that your are irritated by everyone else getting PG. Sucks that your mom is throwing it in our face like that. If only she knew everything you are going through!!! thanks for the info on FF regarding the time change.

[Loud_curly]

Delsol - Wow, that was shitty of your Mom to throw it in your face like that. I'm fortunate that my Mom hasn't done that to me, but the subtle "wanting to be a grandma" hints have been there for years. Both sides know we're now trying, so there's not much they can say anymore. Maybe you can hint that you're not avoiding the thought of becoming a Mom w/o actually saying you've already started trying? And I soooo wanted a May baby...

Sammy - Ovusoft had this:

11. Why does Ovusoft change my default entry time in advance of changes to and from Daylight Savings Time?

When you set your clock forward or back to compensate for changes to and from Daylight Savings Time (DST), you change the time you rise in the morning by an hour. Because taking your temperature at the same time each morning is so important to the practice of Fertility Awareness, such abrupt changes can impact the usefulness of your temperatures in your analysis. By adjusting the time you take your temperature by 20 minutes each day in advance of the change to/from DST, you reduce the negative effect that the change has on your temperature observations. Ovusoft alerts you in advance to the change to and from DST based on your own regional settings and suggests when you should take your temperature to avoid any negative effects of the change.



Mel - Hope you feel better soon. (((HUGS))) Boy, has this been a rough month for you - let's hope November is better!

It's a good thing that November's coming soon - we're about to hit 100 pages!!!

[armadillo]

FSUSammy, check with your insurance company again. Mine also doesn't cover infertility stuff, but it covers any testing done to determine infertility. And if there is a physical reason for the infertility (endo, blocked tubes, etc), it covers fixing that. But it wouldn't cover IUI or IVF. I've had an HSG, ultrasounds, and bloodwork done by my REs (I had one, hated him, and went to another) and they were all covered.

[Renrel]

Quick silly question.

I charted with my last pg but I have been less on top of things this time. More into a not avoiding mode for the first couple of months and just started trying to chart this cycle. So have not bothered to join.

First just a gripe. My software had to be reloaded since our computer crashed since the last time I was pg. I am having trouble getting ovusoft to give me a new activation number, even though I have the e-mail reciept from the first time, so I don't actual have a chart going. I am just keeping track of my temps on piece of paper.

My silly questions is this. I bought a new basal thermeter a month or two ago. Since I started temping about 5 days ago or so, every morning I get exactly 97.5 and than the thing says lo. Does this mean the battery is dieing and my temps are not accurate? This is my assumption. I can't believe my temp as been absolutely the same for 5 days in a row and I can't think what else lo would mean.

[DelSol]

Thanks Ladies!

I always felt they had to be better at everything we did. I was previously engaged and to be married in 2000 but it didn't work out, during this time their oldest daughter got married in 1999, my sister in 2000 and their 2nd daughter got married in 2000 and their 3rd daughter was just married in 2005. The icing on the cake will be if the 3rd daughter says she's pregnant.


ETA: My sister wrote back "You better get busy for #1. :)". I just wrote back to her " Ha ha, we are working on it but mother doesn’t know and it’s taking a little longer than we thought."

[RobynScott]

My silly questions is this. I bought a new basal thermeter a month or two ago. Since I started temping about 5 days ago or so, every morning I get exactly 97.5 and than the thing says lo. Does this mean the battery is dieing and my temps are not accurate? This is my assumption. I can't believe my temp as been absolutely the same for 5 days in a row and I can't think what else lo would mean.

Welcome Renrel - when mine starts, it says 97.7 and then Lo - the Lo means it is ready to take my temp (not that 97.7 is my temp) - sounds like you've not actually taken your temp (put therm in your mouth too soon?) - or if you are trying to use the memory function - that you are not holding the button down long enough (that's how it is on mine) - and it's resetting to take your temp.

Try putting the therm in your mouth after the Lo reading and see what happens. If you're already doing all of that - then sorry - I've got no clue ;)

Have to go back and read other posts now - just thought I could try and answer this one (since I did the same thing at first - thinking why are my temps always 97.7 :rolleyes: )

[DelSol]

Quick silly question.
My silly questions is this. I bought a new basal thermeter a month or two ago. Since I started temping about 5 days ago or so, every morning I get exactly 97.5 and than the thing says lo. Does this mean the battery is dieing and my temps are not accurate? This is my assumption. I can't believe my temp as been absolutely the same for 5 days in a row and I can't think what else lo would mean.

Lo on my BBT means low beep when it's done recording your temp it will beep. I hope that helped.

[FSUSammy]

Loud_curly - Thanks for the Ovusoft info! That's what I was thinking. Guess I'm just waiting on it to remind me. It didn't remind me yesterday. I guess it should remind me tonight for tomorrow's temp. Guess I'll have to wait and check when I get home.

armadillo - When I talked to my insurance company they had told me that it depends on how the doctor's office coded the claim. If they code it as infertility my insurance won't cover it. Maybe I'll call up the RE to see how they'd code the initial tests.

Renrel - sounds like the battery might be dying on your thermometer. I recommend temping at a different time of day you should get a different number. If you don't you can easily find batteries at places like Walgreens.

[2 Crazy Pugs]

I need all your expertise. I am at 4 DPO, what should I be seeing temp wise? Here is my chart....

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/168fad

[Loud_curly]

2 crazy pugs - There's nothing to really see at this point in your cycle. Your temps should pretty much stay above the coverline during the entire luteal phase, with maybe a dip or two below. Since this is your first month, you won't be able to make any comparisons to earlier months regarding your temp pattern. Sorry for not having good news - but this is how the 2ww goes!

[Jess71903]

cowgirl-Uh, Sorry AF messed up your bday gift! I hope you have a good day anyway!
DelSol-I guess maybe at one time I was this thoughtless about fertility, but I think we should all make up fliers about sensitivity regarding fertility! I understand not wanting to tell your mom. I didn't tell mine until right before I had my lap and we had been trying for a year without success. I really wanted it to be a real surprise, but at the same time, I really got tired of being vague about things. When I told my mom and step-dad, they both appologized for saying anything that might have hurt me about having kids. When I do finally get pregnant, I plan to tell anyone who will listen about how long it took and how hard it is, and how they need to be sensitive that they might not always know when it's taking a while, or even when it hasn't been very long, but it's still a stressful experience when it's all you want. The question "so when are you having kids" should be in the same category as "so when are you due" when you haven't heard anyone say that person is pregnant!

FSUSammy- are you still using the cheapie OPKs? I have had good luck with Answer brand. If you haven't already, I would suggest switching. I'm sorry this is being so crazy for you! I hope you O soon and your DH cooperates!

renrel- sorry about ovusoft! I hope you can get some info on reloading it! In the mean time, you could always get an account with Fertility Friend. I know everyone has their preference, but I like looking at FF charts better. They have less info, but to me are more clear. What Robyn said about your therm sounds right to me!

me-ho hum at 2 DPiui,. this is going to be the longest 2WW EVER!:(

[FSUSammy]

Jess - I use the cheapie opks twice a day and at night I'm also testing with the clearblue digital. Which Answer opk have you had luck with the strips or the one-step ones? When will you be able to test seeing that you had the iui this cycle?

[Jess71903]

I use the ones that look like HPTs...I guess the one-step ones in the pink box.

I just got a note from a long-haul TTCer in my journal that said that HPTs were + for her until 12DPO after she had a trigger shot....I am going to seriously DIE this cycle! It makes me want to buy cheap tests and test every day until it goes - just to make sure anything after that is accurate. Maybe I will head to the $1 store today.

[FSUSammy]

Thanks Jess. I actually have 1 Answer one-step (the kind you use) left. That sucks about the IUI giving positives for so long. That would drive me NUTS!!!!

[tealynn]

Cowgirl, sorry about AF...I know how disappointing it can be when she shows her face. :(

Jess, STEP AWAY FROM THE HPTs! I think you might torture yourself more w/ the early + ones.

2 Crazy Pugs, it's definitely hard in the 2WW to remain calm and not over analyze every temp. Finally, after 6 months of charting, I learn to take everything with a grain of salt.

renrel, my BBT is like RobynScott's, it automatically comes up 97.7 and then goes to Lo, once it says Lo, I then put it in my mouth and wait until I hear the beep.

I'm looking forward to getting in some quality reading time this weekend. I just started "Conception Chronicles" and "Laughin' fertility" and they both seem like pretty easy reads. Not much else going on with the unwanted visitor lurking around. Plus, it's supposed to be cold and rainy so I can't wait to snuggle down w/ my blankie and a book!

Hope everyone has a great weekend...I'm hoping to see some BFPs in here or at least some serious FPS this weekend!

[LilOne]

So I have a weird question - my last cycle my LP was 17 days. This cycle it was 11 days - just got AF today :( I thought LP wasn't supposed to vary that much??

[ABirney]

Just a few quick s/o's...
cowgirl Sorry the witch showed. Have a good bday tomorrow anyway!
LoudCurly Hope you catch that egg!
FSUSam Hope you O soon!
melandtim Hope that cold goes away!
DelSol Sorry about the news on your mom's friend's kids and her throwing it in your face. That sucks!
2crazypugs The 2WW varies for everyone... just hope it stays above the coverline!
tealynn Let us know if those books are any good.
LilOne Sorry AF showed. Not sure about the LP question.. it usually stays the same... on your previous chart by temps alone a CD25 O is possible.. which would be an 11-day LP... but then your CM doesn't match up at all.... so I don't know! :confused:

Nothing new here.. CD7... leaving soon to petsit for the weekend. DH is working crazy hours this week and next due to his coworker being on vacay so who knows if we'll get in any BD next week... not that it will probably matter given my cycle history.. :rolleyes:

[FSUSammy]

LilOne - LP's shouldn't vary but they can. I don't have a consistent one either. Mine has ranged anywhere from 10-15 days. I blame it on the fact that my body is yet regular from going off of BCPs. This could be your problem too.

[Renrel]

Thanks for the response. It never occurred to me that I needed to wait for a beep to start taking the temp. I will try waiting for the beep tomorrow and seeing what happens. I had this all down last time around, having charted for 3-4 months just to get a pattern before I even started TTC. This time I feel more like I am just not TTA rather than TTC. I think I am so scared of having a second that I am afraid to really try.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated

Welcome Jen!

[cat_loverpq]

I don't have time to catch up (I'm trying not to let SIL catch me on ttc websites!) but just wanted to say that I think I got everyone updated. Let me know (in red of course) if I missed anything. :)

[missy329]

Hi Girls!

Well, I joined this thread a few weeks ago and I have not posted anything since. Sorry about that! I am bad about posting SO's but I do try to read along.

It looks like I have finally O'd. I have always been pretty regular with Oing on day 12-14. But, this month it was day 19! I have never been that late- I was starting to think it was just not going to happen this month. So, I don't really know what is going on with me this month. It is really the first month I have charted since I had my 2nd DD so maybe this is my new "norm"? Anyway,

Please move me to I think I O'd- testing week of Nov 5-11.

Thanks!

[jjsanner]

LilOne, Looking at your last chart, I think FF called your o wrong. Looks to me like you o'd on CD 25, which would make your LP 12 days as well. I think mabey if you take out that high temp on CD 21 that it might change your coverline. Hope that helps!

[Jess71903]

Jess, STEP AWAY FROM THE HPTs! I think you might torture yourself more w/ the early + ones.
I'm looking forward to getting in some quality reading time this weekend. I just started "Conception Chronicles" and "Laughin' fertility" and they both seem like pretty easy reads.
Ok, ok. I am always looking for an excuse to test. You're right. It would drive me crazy to get +s and not actually be pg.

Give us a review of the books. I might like to read them!
I think I am so scared of having a second that I am afraid to really try.
That's ok! I am sure it will be great when it happens.

It looks like I have finally O'd. It is really the first month I have charted since I had my 2nd DD so maybe this is my new "norm"?

Yay for Oing! It very well may be your new norm, or your may have just had an off month.

jjsanner-well, you just popped out of the woodwork!;) Missed you, girl!

[granada]

I'm back to waiting to O.

[Jess71903]

Aw, sorry Granada!:(

Ok, I was resolved not to test at all until like 15 DPiui...then, it hit me. I have 2 test stips (free with Preseed) in addition to my box of 2 Equate tests that have been in my cabinet forever. I don't want to be wasteful, so it's just responsible of me to use them, right?:o

[DelSol]

Granada ~ sorry about AF.

Jess ~ I agree a lot of people don't think that someone could be having fertility issues.

tealynn ~ I hope you enjoy your readings.

ABirney ~ have fun pet sitting.

Cowgirl ~ Happy Birthday!

jrbnj ~ Welcome!

Sammy ~ sorry about the non-insurance coverage for infertility.

loud_curly ~ good luck catching the egg, I have my fingers crossed for you.

missy329 ~ good luck I hope you caught your egg.

me ~ CD38. I think my body is getting ready to O, I noticed my CM is changing so I told DH we should start the BDing tomorrow. I'm watching my CM today but I don't think it's there yet. DH was like, I thought your cycle is messed up, I said it is but I think my body is gearing up to O again. So hopefully I will O this time. It's funny because had I gotten AF when I was suppose to, this upcoming week would have been my fertile week so here we are the same upcoming week and hopefully it turns out to be my fertile week. So if this works, I'll be testing around our 2nd anniversary, that would be a great anniversary present.

[Amuse Bouche]

Bummer Granada!

Well I had a fun night -- spent the whole thing in the ER with kidney stones! I think I'm OK now (back still a little achy, but no Vicodin since 4 am, and it's not excruciating) but have no idea what this will do to my cycle this month!

[DelSol]

Amuse_Bouche ~ sorry about the kidney stones, I hope you get some rest.

[DianeCourt]

Granada: Bummer. I'll probably be joining you in a couple days.

Amuse: Get better soon & take it easy!

My temp dipped below coverline AGAIN today. AF isn't due until next Wednesday, so I don't know what the bleep is going on in my LP! Weird. Anybody have any ideas? Do you think my LP temps could be lower because I'm just coming off BCP? The other thing I was thinking about is that I'm 30 lbs lighter now than the last time I charted. I wonder if that could have an effect on my temps overall?

Daylight Savings tonight! Everybody remember to set your clocks back an hour! :p

[Jess71903]

Delsol- I hope you do O this time!
Amuse- Sorry about the stones. OUCH!
Diane- wow at that chart. I had forgotten yours looked like that! I can't believe the wide variation of temps you get! I would say that your body is just trying to adjust to being off of BCP and that this cycle is just weird. I know you have charted before, but are you sure you get the therm in the same spot in your mouth every day, or do you sleep with your mouth open? When I can tell I have been sleeping with my mouth open, I usually temp, look at the temp, and temp again. If it goes up a lot, I know the first one was skewed.

[DianeCourt]

I woke up sweating today. I took my temp - it was really high. I couldn't sleep, so I ran out to buy a HPT.

BFN. :(

I swear, I almost don't believe it. I had a touch of spotting last night, I'm crampy this morning, and I'm still feeling all hot. This is EXACTLY the way I felt at 11 DPO when I was PG with DD. Just goes to show that I really have NO idea what is going on! :confused:

[FSUSammy]

Diane - Today's temp looks great. Sorry about the BFN but it could still be too early. Hopefully tomorrow's temp is as high as todays.

[Jess71903]

I'm sorry about the BFN, Diane! I hope it is just too early!

[Loud_curly]

Hi everyone. No time for SOs - I'll catch up later. Wanted to let you know to be careful what you wish for - I still haven't Oed (CD18)!!! I thought for sure that yesterday would be my first up temp, but this morning, it was down again (even with the time change). Had some serious EWCM last night, so I hope this is it! NOw come on O - sorry about confusing you later that!!

[DelSol]

DianeCourt ~ sorry about the BFN.

me ~ CD39, we're going to hopefully start BDing tonight. DH's tummy has been bothering him so we see if he feels better.

[polkadot]

Diane~ Hopefully the jump means that yesterday was implant and that tomorrow your temp will still be high and you can test....and you will see a beautiful BFP....good luck..


Yeah so i am soooo stupid...i forgot about the time changes effect on my monitor so i didnt get to use it again this morning...i guess it doesnt matter...I have OPK's...i'll let you all know what they say this afternoon...

off to watch football :D

[cat_loverpq]

Just popping in to say that I'm updating myself to "Think I O'd, testing 11/6-11/12." It may have been CD37, but it FINALLY happened!! :D

I am having such a great time with my little niece. I really hope my kids are as good as she is...she hardly ever cries, and even when she does it's not a loud scream but more like soft fussiness. SO NICE! We haven't even heard her once during the night, even though our room is right next to the nursery! :eek:

[CTs_Punkin]

I realize I haven't been in here in quite some time...

I have basically been on hold since July with an ovarian cyst.
This month we finally got to try an IUI - which we just did Friday & Saturday.
Only 1 follicle, but DH's sperm count was "very good" according to the nurses, so hopefully that will be the clincher!

Threadmistress Please update my stats, and change me to I O'd testing 11/7

Me: MMT age 34
DH: CT age 37
Married: 11/04
Off BCP: 12/04
TTC since: 01/05
Known issues/test results: diagnosed with premature ovarian failure 4/06
4/06 Lap - shows open tubes, small bit of endo lasered off
7/06 - 10/06 - Ovarian Cyst, IUI cancelled
8/06 - Present - Acupuncture
10/06 - IUI on 10/27 & 28

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated

Glad to see some old members back and posting! :)

Technically in 2 more posts we should be starting a new thread (post count will be at 1,000!) but I think we should be ok since we are starting a new thread in 2 days.

[oceanblue]

Hey all!

I think I'm on CD6 today. I didn't temp this morning because the hubby and I were up at 4:45 am to do the Detroit Marathon (well, we did the half-marathon). So I figured it was a temp I could do without. Just ho-humming along here.

Diane-Responded to the BFN in your LJ, but I think maybe it's just too early this time around. A few days time will tell.

Amuse-Sorry to hear about the stones, ouchy!

granada-Boo-hiss to the witch

Loud_curly-Come on eggy!!!

cat_lover-Yeay for O'ing! I hope this is it for you!

DelSol-I hope this is a real O! Attack that hubby!

And I know I missed a lot of you, I'm sorry.

[filmgirl7]

Hi everyone. No time for SOs - I'll catch up later. Wanted to let you know to be careful what you wish for - I still haven't Oed (CD18)!!! I thought for sure that yesterday would be my first up temp, but this morning, it was down again (even with the time change). Had some serious EWCM last night, so I hope this is it! NOw come on O - sorry about confusing you later that!!

You and me both, Loudcurly. I'm so irritated....my DH and I actually think my thermometer is broken because my temp dropped again today, but we were SURE I had ovulated and it would be up. But when DH took his temp it was 96.8 in the middle of the day, and he's sure that's wrong. We're getting a new basal thermometer this afternoon.

If I keep getting EWCM, does that mean I haven't ovulated? I think I had more EW today than I did all last week. Confused. Maybe we should BD again?