TTC w/Charting in September - Hoping Labor day brings on future labor pains. [Archive] - Page 3

magrat

09-20-2006, 04:58 PM

Just found out one of my many cousin's knocked his girlfriend up but hey this one has a job, my other cousin (his brother) has 3 illegitimate children and no job! Gotta love family and then they have the nerve to ask me when I am having a baby, it’s none of their damn business!

Yeah, I've got two female cousins (sisters) who both have two kids each and the elder is probably 22 now, neither married, neither have jobs or homes. Their youngest sister just turned 18 and she's probably going to end up in jail, but at least she's not pregnant! If my mom ever complains about me I just say she should be glad I didn't turn out like them!

polkadot

09-20-2006, 05:55 PM

Cosmogirl

09-20-2006, 06:05 PM

Delsol..its supposed to help if you have an immune disorder that will attack the new cells in your body...ie the baby...and it usually happens before implant which is what is happening with me....I am off to find a real reason for ya...i'll be back with something technical is a sec ;)

Really? I didn't know that. Thanks for the explaination Lauren.

Honeygirl: Thanks for that thoughtful reply. I'm often trying to put things into perspective, but it is so deceiving when you know something you truly want is not working that being rational is just not possible it seems. I decided to just relax tonight, and enjoy myself as much as I can.Hopefully, next cycle...:rolleyes: But thanks again for your words. The last 2 months were really hard because I really had feelings, plus I really wanted a May baby, so now I sure can forget it.:(

I'm thinking about changing my strategy for next month. i.e. no charting after O. I have to think about it some more....

Charting is Knowledge

09-20-2006, 06:55 PM

Updated to Here!

RobynScott

09-20-2006, 07:20 PM

Hi Ladies,

Sorry I have been 'gone' sp long - I've been trying to follow along but never had time to post and SO - so, my apologies - and my sincerest apologies to Chris-n-Jen - I already pm'ed her but I have not been the best co-TM.

So, I will do my best with SO's now - apologies if I miss anyone. I need to have two windows open to do this - this is hard :o

Sammy - sorry you're having to wait so long! I hope AF hurries up and gets here already and that you start feeling betetr!

polkadot - I posted in your journal - so sorry for your loss.

LoudCurly - welcome! I just started charting and I really enjoy it - makes me feel like I have some idea of what is going on in my body - and a forecast for when AF is going to show. Good luck with the upcoming BD marathon!

tealynn - hope your timing works out better than you think! Shettles method sounds like a good bet ...

http://www.kenandkeli.com/images/smilies/yaycute.gifPlease excuse my geekiness but I know you gals will understand. Having major EWCM today. The textbook clear stretchy kind. When I just checked it stretched 3 inches!! :eek: I just emailed DH to be prepared to be attacked when he gets home. Hehehehehe. http://www.kenandkeli.com/images/smilies/naughty.gif

SQ2 - I totally understand! I felt the same way this weekend. more about that below - hope it works out for both of us!

ETA - I just looked at your OS chart - holy cow - I think you really covered your bases! wow - bet you and DH are ready for a little rest now ;)

katie - Hope your O date holds off as long as you wish - and no longer! Tealynn is right - maybe you can delay stress your O!

Jessie - good luck with the waiting to O - patience is needed, I know. what kind of continuing ed class were you at?

Berry - so frustrating to have BFN and late AF! That happened to me at the beginning of August (pre-charting) AF was 5 days late (which has never happened) - I was convinced I was PG and then BFN!

numberlady - hope AF stays away for you - and you won't even be tempted (able) to test over the weekend - that's great!

ABirney, Magrat - HI!

cosmogirl - sorry AF is about to show. This process can be so frustrating when things don't happen when we want and we feel like we have no control. I totally understand the wanting a May(June) baby too - right there with you on the frustration factor.

Kanga and Honeygirl - - you're both right about processing our emotions. That's what this thread is for - and you're not wrong about feeling the way you do. [sidenote - HG - I think it's really cool that you are a therapist!]

catlover - hope AF's stay isn't too long.

Delsol - sorry AF is about to show :(

ChrisnJen - thanks for being a great TM. Hope your wait to O is not too long.

Phew - I think I covered everyone that posted from #474 to #510! Sorry if I missed anyone - did the best I could!

Update on me in the next post.

RobynScott

09-20-2006, 07:38 PM

Phew, now that I've done as many SO's as I could ;) - an update on me. Pretty sure that I am 2 DPO. I got a positive OPK on CD 14 and a negative on Day 15, so thinking CD 15 was 24 hours after the positive O.

The BD-fest started on CD 12 - I was trying to get DH geared up sooner, but since we didn't know when O was - we BD'ed CD 12, 13 and 15. Good but not great I guess.

Been working a lot lately. Sunday, I finally had some time for myself. Went to the mall (haven't been shopping for myself since Memorial Day Weekend - before that it was Christmas!) - anyway, had to run to the Ladies room in Nordstrom. TMI here - but of course I didn't sit on the seat (squatted). Before I went, I thought to myself - why can't I have some sign of O so I know it's happening - like ovulation bleeding. Lo and behold, since I was squatting, I was looking down (what can I say - wanted to make sure there was no splashage) - and I saw a drop of blood! and then, the stretchiest EWCM I have ever seen! (well, at least since I have been paying attention) - couldn't believe it!

I'm such a DORK - my first thought was "Holy EWCM!" - yes, I am a freak!

Took the OPK when I got home b/c I was pretty sure it would be positive (and it was). DH was too tired to BD that night - but thankfully, a TON (like I've never seen before) of EWCM on Monday (CD 15) too - I wasn't letting DH get out of it then - I didn't care how tired he was ;)

I'm pretty sure my cervix was high and soft then as well (could feel the difference while DTD - sorry for the TMI) -

so - watching for my temperature rise and just going to keep my fingers crossed. Moved myself to Think I O'ed - Testing 10/2 - 10/8.

Also, can't remember if I posted that I went to the Dr. last week to tell her I think I have low progesterone - and also to get prescription pre-natals (they have Omega-3 fatty acids in them). Dr. gave me a prescription for prometrium which I can fill if I have spotting again this month. (I had to suppress my Type A urges to not fill the prescription for this month. Filled the PNV scrip - cost me $20 for a 90 day supply - thank goodness for prescription coverage - retail value for the PNV's was $116! :eek:

That's about it. sorry so long.

I'm going to be out of town for most of my predicted fertile time in October - so if it's not this month, then probably November.

SQ2

09-20-2006, 07:47 PM

FSUSammy ~ Like I said before, ovulation often comes to those who wait. ;) (I'm making fun of myself here since I O'd on CD freakin' 79 or something a couple cycles ago. :rolleyes: ) I hope that's what it is. I'm sorry you can't take advantage of it this month but hopefully soon.

Robyn ~ Woohoo!!! Glad to know I'm not the only EWCM dork. Not only did I have EWCM, but I had some cramping Monday and Tuesday along with high and soft cervix, and I don't know, my body just felt different. So much so that I'll be super suprised if I don't get another high temp tomorrow morning. I just think it's so neat seeing our bodies do exactly what TCOYF says. Looks like we'll be testing around the same time. Crossing fingers for both of us! :)

ADSigMel

09-20-2006, 08:29 PM

Okay, I'm not entirely sure how I ended up here, but here I am. DH and I didn't really have a "TTC start date," we just sort of stopped pretending to be TTA (since we knew full well that we wanted a baby and were not timing our BDing so as to avoid producing offspring). So, since June, we've been neither TTA nor TTC, but this last cycle, we were both actually BDing with the intent of making a little Dixie Arabian. So I figured I might as well quit lying to myself and pop in here to say hi.

We don't actually expect to become pregnant any time soon, because my cycles are...irregular, to say the least. My last O, two weeks ago, was on CD 96! :eek: Before that, I hadn't O'd since last October (with two super-long annovulatory cycles in between). So, I've been to the gyn, who referred me to a specialist, but they haven't set me up with an appointment yet since they're booked up through November. :rolleyes: I'm hoping that by some miracle this cycle will be nice and short and perfect, but I don't have any reason to believe that will be the case. So it will likely be November or so before I O again. But, here I am!

CC Name: ADSigMel
Me: Melody/23
DH: Ali/26
Married since: 11/19/05
Off BCP since: 03/04
TTC since: 06/06
Charting since: 03/05
Known issues/test results: Long cycles, frequent annovulatory cycles
Chart: My Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/9fd5e)
Current status: waiting to O

polkadot

09-20-2006, 08:38 PM

Robyn~ Congrats on the EWCM...its always great to see that....i hope you caught the eggie...

SQ2~ you are not the only EWCM detective out there...I am always on the look out...you are not a dork nor are you alone...

ADSigMel~ Welcome...I hoep your stay is short and sweet...the ladies here are amazing...unfortunatley I am a veteran and have been here way longer than i care to mention...but you will find great info and tips here...:D

~~~
I talked to a cousin of mine tonight who had infertility problems and she gave me the name of the doctor she used at the New Orleans Infertility Institute...so i am going to try to call them tomorrow and see if possibly I can get a consult with them sooner than Nov 20th, and maybe we could get the ball rolling a little sooner...off to bed...i am feeling like crap...:o

cat_loverpq

09-20-2006, 08:39 PM

Welcome Mel! I hope your cycle shapes up for you this month!

ABirney

09-20-2006, 09:22 PM

Hi ladies..
Robyn and SQ2 yay for EWCM!! Hope you caught your eggs.
ADSigMel welcome!
polkadot Hope you are able to get into the other dr sooner and get things rolling!

honeygirl

09-20-2006, 10:12 PM

Welcome AdSigMel! Wowza those are long cycles, I hope that you can get some help from a specialist soon.

Welcome back RobynScott. So you have a perscription for progesterone if you have spotting? Isn't it too late if you're already spotting? I only ask b/c I take progesterone to prevent spotting. Best wishes with your 2ww btw. :)

Cosmogirl - I really wanted a spring baby, April or May. I'll take a June though, but hope it doesn't go into the fall to get pregnant. I think as time goes by we won't care what month it is, we'll just want that BFP!

Tealynn and RobynScott - Yes I'm a tx (clinical social worker), but I don't know how wise I am. My experience is primarily with children and families (attachment therapy). I've found that it is very difficult for me to apply my own knowledge to my life and my marriage though. ;)

Cath2005

09-21-2006, 04:55 AM

Welcome to the new members!

Hope everyone is doing well, once again I am way too far behind for SOs. If only CC wasn't a banned site at work, then I might have some hope of staying caught up!

me - today is CD 33 and 15DPO and I got a BFN this am, my temps are still way up so I don't have a clue what is going on with this cycle. Maybe I O'd later than FF is telling me although it wouldn't make sense with my CM. Oh well, only time will tell I guess. This TTC stuff is confusing though :confused:

I can't figure out how to send a link to my chart - can someone let me know?

numberlady

09-21-2006, 04:59 AM

Hey ladies, well my vacation started out kind of sucky at my doctor's appt yesterday when she could tell AF was on the way while doing my pap. We talked about trying, my m/c and edd, and I almost broke down in tears. For me that is a big deal because I don't cry much. This morning AF arrived with a vengeance, and even though I was not surprised it still blows. Threadmistress, please move me to waiting to O.

DH and I got into a little tiff the other night because he thinks that I need to be patient since we have only been trying for a few months. While I know that he is right, I also know that this is something that happens to my body, so of course I would be more aware and in tune than he could understand. He suggested that I not temp, and while that would be ok since I O regularly around the same time, I'm not sure I can give it up yet. But I think I am going to focus on BD'ing from CD 12-19, because possibly we are giving up a day too early.

Sorry for the book and thanks to all of you those are still reading. Retail therapy is definitely on the agenda for the weekend, so hopefully I will feel better :)

SQ2

09-21-2006, 05:05 AM

Ok, WTF, my temp dropped down again this morning. :mad: :confused: I'm going to be so irritated if the same thing happens as did last cycle. We had such perfect BD timing and it looked like O, and then my temp dropped, I dried up and I didn't O again until a week later, when DH and I were apart. Well wouldn't you know it, DH has a business trip next week. :rolleyes:. It's only for 2 nights so I guess technically we could be ok, right? If we cover all our bases ;) before he leaves and after he gets back? I'm just feeling pissy right now because I thought this was it and we'd done well. I hate my body sometimes. Ugh! Maybe today's temp is a fluke? Sorry, no shout outs. I'm just in a really bad mood now and needed to vent. :mad:

Loud_curly

09-21-2006, 07:11 AM

SQ2 - Hope the temp drop was just a fluke and that you caught the egg!

Robyn - I'm the same way with EWCM - it's a good thing!

Numberlady - Sorry that your vacation had to start so badly with AF. Hope it's a short visit.

ADSigMel - Welcome!

Polkadot - Hope you get a consult date in the next few weeks!

Well, not much here. No BDing yet - DH has been working non-stop this week (he's in school plus working full-time) so I'm hoping we start tonight. At least there's all the new TV shows to keep my mind occupied while I'm home alone! Tonight I'm meeting my friend who's 7 weeks PG to watch Grey's Anatomy (and to get her OPK strips - someone might as well use them:rolleyes: ).

I'm with all of you ladies who really wanted a spring baby - this cycle is my last attempt at that (since technically summer starts June 21). I'm thinking that we may stop the BDing too early in the cycle, so I'm hoping that the charting will help us along with that. And that we catch the egg with our travel plans this month!

RobynScott

09-21-2006, 07:18 AM

Welcome back RobynScott. So you have a perscription for progesterone if you have spotting? Isn't it too late if you're already spotting? I only ask b/c I take progesterone to prevent spotting. Best wishes with your 2ww btw. :)

I'm not spotting yet this month. Happened at the end of last month. If I spot again this month, I can start progesterone next month 3 DPO.

I just found it weird that the first time in my life I have pre-AF spotting, was also the first time we are actively TTC (w/pretty good timing b/c we used OPK's) - made me think maybe there was fertilization but the cells were unable to properly attach/implant. It may have just been a fluke thing - but seemed too coincidental to me.

If I spot again this month, I can fill the prometrium scrip for next month. Like I said, it took all of my willpower to not just go ahead and fill it for this month - but I want to see what my body does first. So far, I've had the best 'fertility signs' of the last few months, so maybe the prometrium won't be needed (and last month was just a fluke - I hope!)

Chris~n~Jen

09-21-2006, 07:51 AM

Man, it's hard to get back in the grove of charting after taking a couple of months off. I finally remembered to temp this morning. I think I'm only going to temp until I know I've O'd and then stop. I'm also not concerned with temping at the beginning of my cycle. I'm a pretty regular Oer. So I think I'll be fine.

I'm with you girls who think you stop BDing to early. I think that is our problem also. We go really strong for the first 3-4 days and then taper off. So we're hoping to do much better this cycle as I was also hoping for a spring baby. Especially since the summer months are so hot here and you just can't do anything (birthday party wise) outside. Well other than pool parties, I guess.

Sorry no time for S/O's right now. Good luck to those testing or trying to catch the eggie. Sorry for those with AF.

katiems118

09-21-2006, 08:19 AM

SQ2-hope it was a temp fluke.

Me, didnt O on CD16, so hopefully I can delay one more day til he comes back...maybe this wishful thinking is really working? He comes home in 37hours,. yeah!!

FSUSammy

09-21-2006, 08:30 AM

SQ2 - Sorry abou the temp drop. I totally know how you feel though!!! Hopefully the drop was a fluke. I guess tomorrow's temp will help you tell.

RobynScott - Yay for no spotting! Hope you caught the egg!!!

ADSigMel - Welcome over here!!!

Cath2005 - I honestly wouldn't trust any of the softwares to tell you exactly what day you O'd, especially FF. Do you have a link to your chart so that we can take a peak at it and tell you what we see?

numberlady - Sorry that AF showed up.

Me - CD 58 (I think) temp drastically dropped this morning. It could have been because I slept with my mouth open though. Since I have a cold I'm all congested and can't breathe through my nose. I guess we'll see what tomorrow's temp is like.

ADSigMel

09-21-2006, 10:12 AM

SQ2 - I frequently see a pre-O spike for a day or two (which I end up having to shave or average) and then a big temp dip for another day or two, and then O. It looks like that may be what you're seeing here, so I wouldn't be surprised if your temp went back up to 97.9 or 98.0 tomorrow or Saturday. Hang in there, sweetie, you've still got a chance!

Thanks for all the warm welcomes everybody! I'm trying really hard to eat healthy and exercise this cycle in hopes that it will help me O. I've been taking vitamins (albeit irregularly :o ) for quite a while, so I want to try to be more consistent with that. Does anyone know of anything else non-medical that I could try on my own to help me (a) ovulate and/or (b) ovulate within a month or so of the cycle beginning (I'm not even bold enough to hope for a run-of-the-mill CD14 O)? I've read Fertility, Cycles, and Nutrition and I'm attempting to implement the advice in there. Other suggestions?

FSUSammy

09-21-2006, 10:20 AM

ADSigMel - Have you tried taking Vitex? It helps some people but not all. It didn't help me regulate unfortunately, but for some it does wonders. Also I read that you can try natural progesterone cream to help regulate you. There is something called a shutdown where you eat certain things and use the cream on certain days for 3 cycles and usually afterwards your body gets regular again. I haven't tried that myself. Also, I read that if you use NPC during your luteal phase up to AF that usually you will O earlier your next cycle. I don't know if this is true or not.

Sam

SQ2

09-21-2006, 10:24 AM

ADSigMel - Welcome! :) Glad to have you here! Thanks for your words of encouragement. I need to chill. I'm so sick of my moods and emotions going up and down with my temps. :(

ADSigMel

09-21-2006, 10:51 AM

Sam - I don't know what Vitex is. Is that a vitamin supplement? And what do you do with this progesterone cream, just rub it on your body? Is it the kind of thing I should ask my doctor about before trying it?

FSUSammy

09-21-2006, 11:06 AM

ADSigMel - Vitex is an herbal supplement you can buy at GNC. The progesterone cream is a lotion you rurn on your body. The bottle usually will tell you what spots to rub it on and you of course want to alternate the areas you put it on. You can try talking to your doctor about it but I'd think that most doctors would rather you go on something like Clomid instead. Have you talked to a naturalpath??

DelSol

09-21-2006, 01:38 PM

AF showed today.

I'll be back later on for shout-outs.

cat_loverpq

09-21-2006, 02:07 PM

Dana ~ I'm sorry. That totally sucks. :( Can we fast-forward to October already? September is pretty much a waste around here! :p

ETA: cute new avatar!

cowgirl

09-21-2006, 03:02 PM

Sorry I have been MIA this week. My Dad had a heart attack Saturday. He got out on tuesday so things have been crazy here.

Sorry Polka.

I thought September was going to be a good month. Ugh

As for me I had a little spotting yesterday. I needless to say with everything have not been temping but I need to start back.

SQ2

09-21-2006, 03:13 PM

DelSol ~ AF sucks. http://www.kenandkeli.com/images/smilies/angrytongue.gif I'm sorry. :(

cowgirl ~ So sorry to hear about your dad. I hope he will be ok and have a speedy recovery. Sounds like the last few days have been super stressful. Hope you are able to relax soon.

FSUSammy

09-21-2006, 03:21 PM

cowgirl - Sorry to hear about your dad. And sorry about the spotting too.

ADSigMel

09-21-2006, 04:08 PM

Cowgirl, I'm so sorry about your dad. I hope he has a speedy recovery!

Cosmogirl

09-21-2006, 05:10 PM

cowgirl sorry about your dad!!! I hope het gets back on his feet soon!

Good luck to those O'ing, and sorry for those that got AF...:rolleyes:

Cat_lover I agree with you, fast forward would work for me too!:p

SQ2sorry about the temp drop. I hope you catch that eggie some way!

AF caught me too. So no spring baby for me. :( Now, let's hope for beggining of July...a 07.07.07 baby would be rather cool:cool:
Still thinking about the strategy for next month. I think we need to BD less the days before O. And I'm not sure wheter I'll chart the whole time or not...I don,t want to be on an emotional rollercoaster all the time until I get my BFP.(please sooner then later :rolleyes: ) I'm wondering if stopping to chart after O would make me less anxious about the whole thing.

polkadot

09-21-2006, 05:29 PM

Cowgirl~ so sorry about your dad i hope he is ok and has a speedy recovery...

Delsol~ so sorry...it is down right sucky when your chart looks great and nothing...makes ya wanna scream...

I talked to my doc today and he is going to try and see if he can get me in with the RE earlier than Nov 20th..so that is a great thing...I called the Fertility Institute of New Orleans and they were very abrupt on the phone when I said that I had no fertility coverage...she told me flat out..the consult is $200 and they dont even do anything but talk to you...so I guess I will be praying that my doctor can work miracle...and get me in with the RE sooner...fingers crossed..

katiems118

09-21-2006, 07:48 PM

Polkadot-hopefully the doc can get you in sooner!

I have a question-how many days do you normally have EWCM? I have never experienced it before, and wouldnt you know it, I had a TON of it today (rather disgusting, but at the same time, awesome) and DH doesnt get back til tomorrow....do you think it will continue for at least another day?

polkadot

09-21-2006, 08:19 PM

i usually have EWCM for only a day or two...but some people have a hard time pinpointing the exact days b/c its not always able to be seen...TMI ahead...sometimes you might have to reach in there and check KWIM?

Hope that helps...i think the number of days you actually have it varies from person to person

hope that helps :)

RobynScott

09-22-2006, 07:05 AM

Katie - I had 2 days of serious EWCM this month - hope yours continues.

cowgirl - wishing your dad an easy and speedy recovery!

QUESTION -When and why do you discard temps?

Based on my EWCM (CD 14 and 15) and + OPK on CD 14 (- on CD 15) - I was convinced I O'ed on CD 15. According to my temps however, I did not see the big shift till after CD 16 - so that's where FF (and Ovusoft) put my O. However, the morning of CD 16, I noted that I woke up cold b/c the ceiling fan was blowing me and I was only using a cover sheet (not typical) instead of our comforter.

I'm wondering if that could have thrown off my temp enough to discard? If I take it out, FF puts my O date at CD 15.

Just curious if I should discard it or not. I guess it doesn't make that big of a difference (but our BD timing, CD 12, 13 and 15) is definitely better for a CD 15 O date.

What do you think?

Loud_curly

09-22-2006, 07:10 AM

Cowgirl - So sorry about your Dad. Hope he makes a speedy recovery!

Cosmogirl and DelSol - Ugh. Sorry AF caught you. But 07.07.07 is a really cool birthday!

SQ2 - Your chart is looking good this morning. I hope yesterday's low temp was just a fluke, b/c you certainly covered your bases BDing!

katiems118 - Hope your EWCM lasts until tonight! It's looking hopeful...

Not much here for me. CD 11, no BDing yet, but my cervix is still fairly closed. Poor DH is so tired, but I had it out with him about not having *any* time for me - all I need is a few minutes. Geez! Hoping tonight we'll start, once my DH gets home from school. Based on our past attempts, I still think we're not BDing for enough days - we're great on the weekend, and then nothing during the week.

Loved Grey's Anatomy last night - go good TV!

DelSol

09-22-2006, 07:44 AM

polkadot ~ thanks for the information on the baby aspirin.

ADSigMel ~ Welcome! I hope your stay is short & sweet.

Cath2005 ~ sorry about the BFN.

numberlady & cosmogirl ~ sorry about AF. :( She's very mean!

SQ2 ~ I think it's just a fluke, if you discard the temp, does FF call your O then?

Jen ~ I think we're all in the same boat as the timing. I thought I had good time this last time but my O came early so I need to rethink my strategy.

cat_lover ~ thanks! I want to try and get it bigger but can't.

cowgirl ~ sorry about your dad, I hope he has a speedy recovery.

katiems118 ~ depends on the person, I'm good for about 3 days of EWCM.

loud_curly ~ my DH gets tired after 3 days of BDing, next cycle I think we to bump it up, he's gonna love that! I think my due date would be end of June but I could go into July.

Robyn ~ good luck with the 2ww. That’s a tough one those temps are close, what if you keep it in what does FF do then?

I'm in the boring part, CD 2 for me.

RobynScott

09-22-2006, 08:01 AM

DelSol - if I keep it, FF bumps O to CD 16. Not a big deal I guess - but I'm curious whether or not I should keep the temp.

katiems118

09-22-2006, 08:08 AM

robyn-I think that it wont really matter if you are moving from 15-16, just know that at the end of the 2ww, you could be off +/-1 day. I think that the temp is still a rise, so I think based on your OPK to keep it on the 15th.

tealynn

09-22-2006, 10:55 AM

Hey girlies! Work has been so busy the past couple of days, I haven't had a chance to stop by. And this will be a quickie.

Cowgirl, I'm so sorry about your dad. There's nothing worse than seeing the pillars in your life take a tumble. I hope he's feeling better soon. And the positive side is that this could be a life changing event for him, for the better.

Welcome AdSigMel, Hope your stay is short and sweet.

Katie, I can't complain about my EWCM. I seem to have it for about 5 days before O. But as everyone else said, every body is different.

Nothing new to report. Temps are still high but no real FPS. I've been a little on edge lately but that may be due to the fact that I work w/ a bunch of demanding butt heads!

Have a great weekend everyone..

Jess71903

09-22-2006, 03:18 PM

So much going on in here...not sure I can get everybody, but I will try;)

katie- I only have like a day of EWCM, if that. I usually notice it only one time during the day then it's gone. I the the concensus is that everybody is different, and you will just have to wait and see if it hangs around!

robyn- I agree with katie. As long as you know, it doesn't matter if it is off by a day. If you really think it's CD 15 due to CM and stuff, then throw it out, just to make it look right.

polkadot- insurance sucks. I hope your doc can pull some strings for you and you can get in to the RE ASAP. I hope it's ok...the SAI ladies were still congratulating you, so I let them know what happened.

cowgirl, I'm so sorry to hear about your dad. I hope he has a quick recovery!

Cosmogirl- if you are stressing in the post-O part of your cycle, try stopping. I have done it both ways and I think I could relax a little more. Then again, at the end of the cycle, I wanted to know if my temp had dropped and if I could expect AF.

me- CD 10. Going to the in-laws for the weekend, where we will be partaking in some covert BDing. If you will remember from that discussion we had a while back, that's something we tend to enjoy, so it's all good with us ;)!

honeygirl

09-22-2006, 03:33 PM

Going to the in-laws for the weekend, where we will be partaking in some covert BDing. If you will remember from that discussion we had a while back, that's something we tend to enjoy, so it's all good with us !Jess71903 - That totally made me LOL! Have fun. :)

polkadot

09-22-2006, 03:54 PM

thanks jess...i forgot to go back there are let everyone know what happened....well i had stopped bleeding completely on Wednesday and that kinda worried me...but when I talked to the doc yesterday he said that is was fine that there probably wastn much there and that I would be fine....well today on the way home from a workshop I had to pull over b/c i was having cramps so bad....
well TMI ahead....
I had a bowel movement and I passed a really big blood clot....I called the doctor immediatley and they said that it was ok...and that it was probably just the endometrium (sp?) and that I should be fine...but the nurse also said that we need to wait 3 months to try again!! 3 MONTHS!!! There is no way I am waiting 3 months...thats December....that is entirely too long and I will so miss having a summer baby....so after mOnday as long as my levels are done...I am going to talk to him about getting back on the Clomid cocktail I did last month....

later girls!!!

honeygirl

09-22-2006, 03:59 PM

So I've been thinking that there are some downsides to Ovusoft. One downside is the projected cycles feature. Thanks to this feature I am now fighting negativity related to our possible chances of getting pregnant. For the next 2 months my DH is going to be traveling smack dab in the middle of the projected fertile times for me. Yes, the next 2 months. Now I know that my cycles are anything but predictable, so it may work out just fine....but there is that lingering part of me that is saying "oh sh*t". KWIM?

I'm trying to relax, trust and enjoy this phase of my life. But...it's a challenge here and there. I even thought of trying to trick my body by taking progesterone longer this cycle (if we don't get a BFP) so as to put off my O a bit for the next cycle. Is that even possible? :p

I just need to take it one day at a time. I know that you ladies can relate to me on that one! I will say that not temping right now (I'm waiting till about cd10) has been VERY nice. Overall I'm much more relaxed, except for the above posted worrying. ;) Now, back to my "fertili-tea" and thinking positive thoughts.

honeygirl

09-22-2006, 04:02 PM

Polkadot - Three months! :eek: That's crazy. Didn't they only tell you 1 month last time? I'm with you on not waiting, demand your drugs! :D
Sorry about the clot btw, I'm sure that was a hard thing to see.

polkadot

09-22-2006, 04:08 PM

yeah it sucked...espcially being it was in the public bathroom YUCK!!!

and there is just no way I am waiting 3 months....when it happened the first time my other doctor told me to go ahead and try the next cycle...I am going against doctors orders and taking the baby aspirin and trying normally this cycle...he never said not to take the baby aspirin he just never said I should either...I could see if he wanted me to wait if i was far along...but had I not taken that test early I would not even had known and would be trying again next month...so...i just have to hope and pray I am right about the immune stuff and hope to get a BFP and a sticky bean...thats all I can do...

katiems118

09-22-2006, 04:20 PM

Polkadot-I say go for it, gotta see what that aspirin can do.
Me- DH's plane lands in about 5 hours, then 1 hour home, that means in theory we can BD in 6.5 hours...I hope he's not too tired after travelling for 23 hours...yep Im definatly crazy. :)

SQ2

09-23-2006, 06:03 AM

katie I've been seeing 2-3 days of EWCM, with really one day of the true clear textbook stretchy stuff.

DelSol If I take out Friday's temp FF tells me I O'd on Monday. But if I leave it in, both FF and OS say I O'd on Tuesday.

* * *
Question: Is it ok to take your temp after laying in bed for 20 minutes after you wake up? I woke up at 6:10 this morning, took my temp (97.59), and then laid in bed and took it again at 6:30 for the heck of it (97.94). Lately I've been waking up earlier than my alarm and I can't get back to sleep because I keep thinking "What's my temp going to be? What's my temp going to be? What's my temp going to be?" It's annoying, but I wonder if my laying there obsessing about it actually makes it go up higher than it should?

Anyways, I'm hoping my chart is showing the "fall-back rise" pattern. Even when I put in my 6:10 temp, OS is giving me an O date of last Tuesday. If I put in another high temp on FF for tomorrow, it says the same thing. What do you guys think? Does this seem accurate? Still no CM in sight and even though I'm not that good at it yet, I think my cervix is pretty firm and low now. **crossing fingers we caught the egg** :o

DelSol

09-23-2006, 09:27 AM

Jess71903 ~ Have this weekend!

Polkadot ~ sorry about having to wait 3 months, I hope you can start sooner. Sorry about the blood clot.

Honeygirl ~ I hope it works out with DH’s travel, any way you can visit him while traveling?

Katiems118 ~ I’m glad your DH is back home and he made it home in time for your O.

SQ2 ~ I was going to say if you take it out, FF probably says you O’d on CD16 (Monday). From what I have been reading in the rookie questions thread, you should stick with the first temp. I would also go off of your CM for signs of fertility. Since you don’t have anymore EWCM, it’s safe to say you O’d and looking at your chart you have your bases covered for Bding (you lucky girl).

Me ~ CD 3, just waiting for AF to be gone. I told DH on Thursday that we would have to try again because it didn’t work. So yesterday on the way to eat sushi, he was like I can’t believe we didn’t make a baby this time, I thought we tried really hard and he was disappointed because he wanted it to happen this month. I explained to him that I O’d a day early that what my normal time was and so the day we started was the day I O’d and we should have started the day before my O. I told him I was temping but this was all TMI for him. So I think as soon as I see EWCM we are going to start the BDing, previously I was waiting until I got closer to my O days.

ABirney

09-23-2006, 12:23 PM

Just checking in,
polkadot I sure hope you don't have to wait 3 months to start trying again!
cowgirl Hope your dad is doing ok.
Good luck to those O'ing and testing soon and sorry to those AF found. (Sorry for the generic s/o's... I'm behind again. :o )

No news here yet... plugging along CD29, no sign of O anytime soon. I wonder how long I should wait this time to get a hold of the dr to get Provera or something. I'm almost embarrassed to talk to him about it because I know my wt is causing alot of my probs and I'm supposed to be working on that per drs orders, lost 15# in May/June, and have been gaining and losing the same 5# since then. I hope he doesn't get mad at me!

Cosmogirl

09-23-2006, 07:15 PM

I just NEEDED to unload this off my chest
My sister *just* told us she is pregnant. What mix emotions that is for me. I'm So happy for her, because I know how much she wanted this, but it just reminds me that it is getting hard for us, and that i'm not yet pregnant.
I feel sad and weird to feel like that:(

Off to bed...

honeygirl

09-23-2006, 10:42 PM

Sorry Cosmogirl! This is a good place to post about situations like that. It is bittersweet to feel happy for family/friends, yet envious/sad that it isn't happening to us. Sometimes I have to remind myself that there are plenty of babies to go around, and that they didn't take my baby. :D Sounds silly I know, but sometimes I feel like that. So I can relate!

ABirney - Have you ever used Provera to bring on AF before? Most ladies around here have to wait till about cd60-90 to get it. What is your typical O date? I could lurk in your charts instead of asking, sorry. ;)

DelSol - That is so cute about your DH being sad that you didn't get pregnant this cycle. Boys have a hard time figuring this all out. My DH is starting to understand a lot more now, but we're almost 6 months in! :) No, I can't follow my DH on these particular trips, which is a bummer. I'm just hoping that it he's here for the prime BD times. It seems like there are a few of us in this thread that have traveling issues (right SQ2 & KatieMS?).

SQ2

09-24-2006, 06:30 AM

DelSol ~ That is cute about your husband. I hope AF goes away soon so you can get started with the BD-ing!

Cosmogirl ~Vent away! I know how you feel. Ever since we started TTC it seems like everyone and their mother is getting pg and I see pg people EVERYwhere. It's getting a little ridiculous actually, I feel like I'm seeing things. It must be especially hard for you though because it's your sister. Hang in there!

honeygirl ~ It seems like there are a few of us in this thread that have traveling issues (right SQ2 & KatieMS?). Yes, ma'am! Unfortunately last month the stress of traveling delayed my O to exactly the wrong time when DH and I were apart. So annoying.

* * *

Me ~ So what do you all think...did I O? Is my thermal shift definite enough? My temps are *hovering* right around my coverline on OS. On FF my coverline is a little lower, not sure why. Yesterday I had a couple bouts of fertile CM, mostly creamy/lotiony but I thought I might have seen EW at one point. Definitely not as clear as on Tuesday. But if I change yesterday's CM to EW, OS takes away my O and moves my coverline up. :( What do you think? I just wish my temps would get UP there! DH will be out of town today through Tuesday night so we'll BD right before he leaves and then when he gets back. If I haven't O'd yet, that should cover us right?

LilOne

09-24-2006, 08:24 AM

Thanks to everyone who warned me to be cautus of a triphasic chart. I was so excited when I saw that, I just knew this was our month. BUT my temps are now dropping, I should get AF tomorrow :( .

On to next month...

polkadot

09-24-2006, 09:39 AM

Cosmogirl~ I feel your pain....its always seems that no matter what the situation in my life this is the way I feel.... My sister *just* told us she is pregnant. What mix emotions that is for me. I'm So happy for her, because I know how much she wanted this, but it just reminds me that it is getting hard for us, and that i'm not yet pregnant.
I feel sad and weird to feel like that

There is nothing you can do to change it...so we just have to move on and try again...it sukcs but what else can we do? ((((hugs))))

I dont know what cycle day I am and i love that...i did ok at the football ga,e with my cousin who just told everyone she is 10 weeks PG...I was sad but didnt cry at all so thats good...I am just relaxing this cycle...thats all...

later girls

Charting is Knowledge

09-24-2006, 10:52 AM

UPDATED TO HERE

magrat

09-24-2006, 11:12 AM

Question: Is it ok to take your temp after laying in bed for 20 minutes after you wake up? I woke up at 6:10 this morning, took my temp (97.59), and then laid in bed and took it again at 6:30 for the heck of it (97.94). Lately I've been waking up earlier than my alarm and I can't get back to sleep because I keep thinking "What's my temp going to be? What's my temp going to be? What's my temp going to be?" It's annoying, but I wonder if my laying there obsessing about it actually makes it go up higher than it should?

SQ2 I don't know if anyone has answered this yet, but it's important to take it as soon as you wake up. It doesn't matter if it's not the exact same time every day, but it is important you temp as soon as you wake up. Any temp you take after 20 minutes (or even less) is invalid. Especially if you are worrying about what it's going to be - that will just raise your heart rate and temp, so it's completely pointless to wait and worry.

SQ2

09-24-2006, 03:22 PM

Thanks so much, magrat. That helps a lot. :)

Cosmogirl

09-24-2006, 04:37 PM

thanks ladies for your hugs and support.

My sister is 33 years old. She has been wanting a kid forever. But she had nobody. No boyfriend, no husband. She met this guy about 2,5 months ago, and she told us yesterday that she is due beggining of May...I let you do the maths...
As I said, I'm truly happy for her, I know she really wanted a kid, but it is kinda disturbing me that she has known this guy for what 5 minutes...;) and is having a kid with him already. And mind you, my sister is not a crazy mind or anything. So that surprises me a lot. I'm also not sure how much in love she is with him...
And the fact that we have been trying for nearly 6 months now, and that she is already preggo after knowing the guy for 2 months is just the cherry on the sunday for me I guess....
I know there is nothing I can do, and I already feel a bit better, but it was just a slap in the face I was not expecting.
I'm trying to move on. DH told me that it would work for us when then right timing would be there for us. I'm sure that is true, but gosh, it is still hard.
Lauren: Thanks for what you said. I'm glad you were ok when your cousin told you she was pregnant. I know how hard it must be for you. My heart goes out to you. *hugs*
Thanks also for saying how good you are feeling about not knowing where in your cycle you are. i'm thinking how I want this to work right now. I'm temping now, but i'm not obsessing over it since I'm in my mense period. I have to think this over really. I might stop charting at one point. Maybe that would make the experience more enjoyable...

SQ2: I know, me too. Everybody I know that could be preggo is. It is driving me batty really. And I was kinda sad to be alone to be preggo when I was for the first time, I'd love to be able to share this pregnancy with some people this time, but it looks like i'll miss the boat...:(
I think you did O. But cover yourself as much as you can just in case though. Hope you cathc that eggie girl!

honeygirl: you are so right. I just would love for mine to be on the way too;)

off to study, it should take my mind off things...

ABirney

09-24-2006, 05:51 PM

cosmogirl sorry that you are upset about your sis's pg. You're right, that isn't very long to know someone before having a kid with them! (Similar thing happened w/ my brother and SIL... got pg after knowing each other 2 months, they are now married for 3 1/2 yrs with 2 kids.) I hope your turn is soon!
SQ2 I'd say you O'd, looks like you covered your bases!
LilOne crossing my fingers AF stays away and your temp goes back up.
polkadot sorry to hear your sad about your cousin's pg too. I know you'll have a sticky baby soon!
honeygirl I know, I'm getting impatient. But given my history, I wonder if I shouldn't be asking for Provera sooner. Here's a cycle history: when I started charting almost 2 yrs ago (TTA at that time) I usually O'd between CD15-24. Started TTC Sept '05 (A year already!) and started having annov cycles. Took Provera 1st TTC cycle starting CD87, 2nd TTC cycle Provera CD72. 3rd TTC cycle O'd CD72 (2 weeks after starting Metformin), 4th cycle O'd CD21. 5th TTC cycle Provera CD41. Currently on 6th TTC cycle CD30. I guess I don't know if he'll want to start me on Clomid or keep going this way. Kind of hard to get pg when I don't O though.

katiems118

09-24-2006, 08:42 PM

Here's an update...picked up DH on Friday, he was sooo tired, and turns out he has a cold...so with the jetlag and the cold, no BDing for Cd 18, 19...luckily I havent O'ed yet so Im hoping its ok...we were able to on CD 20, today...twice even...so tomorrows temp will tell if I O'ed today or not...hopefuly we can continue BDing this week....

SQ2-Wow I looked at your FF chart and looks like you got all the days covered!!!

Lilone-Sorry about the low temps...

cat_loverpq

09-25-2006, 07:48 AM

katie ~ Yay for delayed O!

ABirney ~ I've had my fair share of annov cycles and I know how frustrating it can be. Hopefully your dr will get things moving for you!

Cosmo ~ Wow, I can totally feel your pain. My brother announced that his girlfriend was pg about a month and a half ago. It was totally an oops, they are both still in college and have since moved in together. They met at the end of June and she is due the end of March. (I'll let you do the math on that one...) It was a HUGE slap in the face for me and DH and I was quite upset about it for a long time. I am the oldest (he's my only sibling) and had all these plans for having the first grandchild, how my parents were going to be so excited to be grandparents, etc. Those were all shattered and it absolutely killed me. Especially since we started trying last year (and would've had a baby by now if not for my thyroid condition). I cried a lot and DH was very supportive. Eventually I just had to say to myself, "You know, you're not going to change anything so you might as well just accept it." It sucks and I hate that this had to happen, but I am dealing with it and I try not to think about it. Now I'm just looking forward to being an aunt and spoiling my little niece/nephew. :) I'm trying to keep in mind that God has a plan for us and everything will all work out ok.

cowgirl ~ I hope your dad is doing better.

SQ2 ~ I definitely think you O'd and covered all your bases. Let the waiting begin!

DelSol

09-25-2006, 07:57 AM

Good Morning Ladies! I hope everyone had a great weekend!

LilOne ~ sorry about the temps dropping.

Cosmogirl ~ vent away, I'm sorry you are upset. I can relate with you but in different levels. That is hard to know she didn't know the guy very long before getting pg.

cat_loverpq ~ sorry you are in the same situation as Cosmogirl.

katiems118 ~ I hope you O soon!

me ~ not much going on, AF is gone now I am just waiting to get closer to O to start the BDing.

I'm so excited we booked our trip to Las Vegas for December.

Chris~n~Jen

09-25-2006, 08:14 AM

So looks like Chris is going to have to reschedule his SA. It was supposed to be this morning and he wasn't supposed to do anything for 3 days prior. Well he was having a really hard time with that and then when I mentioned that we were right in the middle of my fertile time he decided he was going to have to reschedule. ;)
It was rather funny how hard of a time he was having not doing anything for just the first day. I guess knowing you can't do something makes you want to do it even more. :p

Loud_curly

09-25-2006, 08:16 AM

Good morning ladies! I just got stuck on DC's metro for an extra 1/2 hour - grrr! But apparently it was due to a sick passenger, so it's not a big deal in the big picture.

Cosmo, Catlover, and Polkadot - (((Hugs))) to all of you! While no one in my family has announced that they are pregnant, it does seem that everywhere I go, I'm surrounded by pregnant people!! I was shopping at the mall this weekend, and pg women were everywhere!

SQ2 - I would definitely say that you have your bases covered. I'm envious of all of your BDing!

katiesms118 - Yay for delayed O! Hope you managed to catch the egg!

LilOne - Sorry about AF.

Well, DH and I started the BDing this weekend. We were able to get in a session on Saturday, and then one on Sunday afternoon before he left for a business trip to San Francisco. I'm hoping not to O before Wednesday. My husband comes back tomorrow am, and there's about a 1/2 hour window for BDing (if he gets in on time) before I need to leave to catch my flight (unfortunately, at different airports, or else there would be more options). Then I'm back from my trip on Wednesday night, when we can get back to BDing. No EWCM yet - hoping it stays away for a few more days (or we can catch the egg in the brief time we have tomorrow am.

katiems118

09-25-2006, 09:39 AM

Loud-curly, hopefully you can get delay the O to Wednesday....

Im still waiting to O, today is CD 21, temp still down...no pains either...strange...I do have a cold, sore throat runny nose, perhaps thats the problem? DARN

FSUSammy

09-25-2006, 10:42 AM

Checking in real quick. No time for S/O's. I'm on CD 62 today. I think. I think I'm on the verge of FINALLY ovulating because I've had lots of EWCM lately. Today is my first day at my new job (with the same company). So I won't be posting much during the day until I know that I can get away with it. Plus I have LOTS to learn!

SQ2

09-25-2006, 12:12 PM

Quick question: Is EWCM at 6DPO normal? I think I remember reading somewhere that you can get fertile CM after O. (Related to a surge of estrogen I think?) I had some really clear stretchy stuff at lunch today. My temp shot up which makes me think I really did O last Tuesday and shouldn't be concerned by the reappearance of EWCM? :confused:

ETA ~ DH is not back until tomorrow night so can't take advantage of it just in case, FYI.

magrat

09-25-2006, 02:48 PM

DH and I have been BDing as much as possible (not all that much, we've been kind of tired) and I have no idea when I'm going to O this cycle since I had the chem pregnancy and everything. Soon I hope because the CM has been pretty good. I've been downing lots of grapefruit juice and I think it might be helping.

I've been off BCP now for like 10 months and I really feel the difference. For years I thought I had no sex drive and blamed the pill when DH would get annoyed or hurt by my lack of interest, though I wasn't entirely sure it really was the pill. Now I am sure. So many women can tell they're going to O based on weird bodily signals, I always thought they might be making it up. But now I think if I weren't charting I would still know when I was getting close to O based on my sex drive. For one week (and the most important week) I'm very interested, then it drops off and I'm back to normal :) I know they do those scientific studies where fertile women pick which face they find more attractive, and it's always the more masculine face. Then when they're not fertile they like the less masculine faces. It's weird to realize that I would probably make the same choices.

Cosmogirl

09-25-2006, 03:20 PM

cat_loverpq

09-25-2006, 03:36 PM

SQ2 ~And to be completely contradictory to Cosmo, I've never had EWCM after Oing. :) I think it's ok, it just depends on the person.

tealynn

09-25-2006, 03:43 PM

I'm such a loooooser. :cool: I broke my own cardinal rule of no testing before 1st day AF would show which is 11DPO usually. Yesterday I had really sore bb's and shooting pains through them and a little spotting today so I caved and POAS, BFN. Why can't I take my own advice????? Now I'm bummed but I stalked some charts on FF w/ implantation spotting and I'm in a better mood. There was even one chart where she had stopped BDing 5 days before O and still got PG...talk about super sperm!

SQ2, It's unusual to have EWCM after O but it does happen.

Magrat, Do you think some of your intensity might be psychological as well? I know that when my body gives me the green light, I'm very focused on getting the job done!

FSUSammy, that would be crazy if your body was getting ready to O! You're still taking a break at the moment, right?

Loud_Curly, I feel your pain about metro delay! I commute an hour every day in DC traffic every day and most mornings I get to work ready to take it out on someone!

Katie, sorry your not feeling well. That might be the cause of your delayed O, at least your hubby is back so you can keep working on catching the egg!

ChrisnJen, too funny that your hubby has a hard time abstaining for 3 days. Of course, I'm sure it wasn't that hard to put off the SA, since most men don't really want to hand over there spermies in a clinical environment.

Cosmogirl, sorry your sister stole your thunder! Hopefully things work out for her. It sounds like it could turn into a sticky situation.

Okay, I'm off to conjure up some more FPS! I've got one more test and I promise I won't touch it until at least 12 DPO!

FSUSammy

09-25-2006, 05:57 PM

tealynn - Yup we are still taking a break for now. I'm trying to not get my hopes up that I O'd today though, even though I have major O signs. Mainly extremely sore BBs and my cervix is very low.

magrat - Isn't it cool to see how your body is different than when its on the pill. I swear I'll NEVER go back on it after seeing how different I am. I, just like you, had no sex drive on the pill and man has that changed since going off of it! LOL

Sam

polkadot

09-25-2006, 07:31 PM

tealynn~ you are not a loser....you just broke under the pressure and thats ok...i would be doing the same thing especially with the bb's pains...that is a good sign...hope good things are to come...:)

magrat~ i agree with you on your body being sooo different off the pill I was on the pill for 10 years before TTC, and I will never be on them again I can guarantee that...i think it has to do with a lot of my TTC issues...just my opinion ;) If bding is wearing you out...just make sure to bd every 2-3 days...that way you cover your bases..good luck :)

Sq2~ i dont usually have EW after O...but i really think it depends on the person...after you are charting for a while you will get to know YOUR pattern...but whenever you see it bd..just in case...

anyone else I missed I am sorry...the Saints are on and they are winning...you dont get that very often...off to watch...Go Saints!!!

Jess71903

09-25-2006, 07:40 PM

I've been off BCP now for like 10 months and I really feel the difference. ..I know they do those scientific studies where fertile women pick which face they find more attractive, and it's always the more masculine face. Then when they're not fertile they like the less masculine faces.
I can totally relate! I thought there was something wrong with me, since as a newlywed, I really didn't want sex with my hubby! I felt like a guy when I went off BC, because I felt like I thought about sex all the time:eek: !!! Now I would say I have levelized and I have a healthy balance, but I am with you. I will never poison myself with that stuff again!

Im still waiting to O, today is CD 21, temp still down...no pains either...strange...I do have a cold, sore throat runny nose, perhaps thats the problem? DARN Maybe you are just a little delayed....will that mess with BD timing? I forget.

Good morning ladies! I just got stuck on DC's metro for an extra 1/2 hour - grrr!

Well, DH and I started the BDing this weekend. My husband comes back tomorrow am, and there's about a 1/2 hour window for BDing (if he gets in on time) before I need to leave to catch my flight (unfortunately, at different airports, or else there would be more options).
I hope your timing works out! Sorry about getting stuck on the Metro! I have been there! We went to the 4th of July fireworks at the Capitol once and it took FOREVER when it was over!
I'm such a loooooser. :cool: I broke my own cardinal rule of no testing before 1st day AF would show which is 11DPO usually. Yesterday I had really sore bb's and shooting pains through them and a little spotting today so I caved and POAS, BFN.

Well, you big loser!!;) Just kidding! We all cave sometimes! I hope it's just too early!
DH is home, I guess I will have to update later!

ADSigMel

09-25-2006, 08:02 PM

Just stopping by to say hi, I'm at CD10. CM is still dry, as usual, CP has been firm and closed. Happily, my temps have been pretty flat, not all over the place like they are during my annov cycles. So, maybe I'll O this time? *fingers crossed* I'm really tired of not ovulating - at this point, I almost don't even care if I get pregnant, I just want to have a non-delayed ovulation!

SQ2

09-25-2006, 08:56 PM

tealynn - You're not a loser! I'd have done the same thing. Try and hold out a few more days before you test again.

* * *

Well, my EWCM was a one time thing because next time I checked today it was all dried up. Weird. Here's what I found on FF: Some cervical fluid after ovulation is possible because the corpus luteum, though its main function is to produce progesterone, produces estrogen in small amounts. This may cause you to see some fertile-looking cervical fluid, even after ovulation.

If your temperatures and other signs show clearly that you have already ovulated, then you can be confident that you are no longer fertile. It is also not uncommon to confuse semen and eggwhite or watery cervical fluid. Some women also notice some fertile-looking cervical fluid just before menstruation.

However, if your chart does not show clearly that you have already ovulated (with a clear and sustained thermal shift) do not stop having intercourse. Keep on considering the possibility that you are still fertile as long as you see fertile cervical fluid to make sure you don't miss a chance to conceive. My temp was the highest it's been so far this cycle this morning so that gives me hope. Hopefully it will stay up tomorrow morning.

The FPS were/are absolutely raging today. :rolleyes: The biggest right now being bloating and major tightness in my abdomen. Also had cramping today. I've had similar symptoms a few days before AF last couple cycles but we're nowhere near AF so I'm taking this as a good sign. :D Also, OS left my O date the same, even when I put the EWCM in. It's amazing what I'll tell myself to be in a better mood. ;)

SQ2

09-26-2006, 05:23 AM

Please move me to: I think I O'd. Testing 10/2 - 10/8.

RobynScott

09-26-2006, 06:03 AM

Please move me to: I think I O'd. Testing 10/2 - 10/8.

SQ2 - I've been waiting for you to say that! I'll try to move you tonight - can't do it now from work. I think we're on the same / similar schedule. when are you going to test?

Hi all! No time for So's now (sorry) - got a 'pep talk' at work yesterday about everything that needs to get done in the next three weeks before our hearing :rolleyes:

As for me - CD 23 here, 7 DPO - no signs of anything. We'll see how long I can wait to test ;) - was thinking 10/7 (18 DPO) - now thinking about 10/1 (12 DPO) - hah!

Have a great day all!

melandtim

09-26-2006, 06:27 AM

Hi everyone! I've been out a week and missed so much.

Sorry to all who AF found and good luck to anyone getting ready to test.

CD16 for me and no O, my temps are all over the place. I am hoping my O is delayed due to the stress from injuring my foot (my horse really thought that his foot should be on top of mine and then refused to get off it!) but I am preparing myself for another annovulatory cycle. Will call this AM to get the results of DH's SA. Hopefully that is ok and then we will see what our next step is.

FSUSammy

09-26-2006, 07:22 AM

RP from SWH:

Hey ladies. CD 63 today. I've noticed a definite dry up in CM and a slight temp rise this morning. My Boobs have been sooooo sore and sensitive too. Well I don't think DH and I are taking a break from TTC anymore, we BD'd last night and before we did I asked him if he wanted protection or not and he said no. I'm wondering if I did manage to O yesterday and if so if we possibly got lucky on that one try. Who knows! Today I did not take my daily Nexium for the reflux. I figured that I'd try not taking it to see if I can survive without it.

Sam

LilOne

09-26-2006, 07:22 AM

Since I've been lurking for awhile, I figure I should go ahead and join:

Me: Edie, 26
DH: D, 28
Married since: April 22, 2006
Off BC since: April 2006
TTC since: April 2006
Charting since: August 2006
Known issues: none

So I should have gotten AF yesterday. Nothing. Today my temp was up quite a bit so I POAS, and BFN.

cat_loverpq

09-26-2006, 07:40 AM

LilOne ~ Can you post a link to your chart? Maybe you O'd later than you think... Oh, and you might want to post your stats in red so the threadmistress will see it to update.

Sam ~ Here's hoping you got lucky!

Mel ~ Ouch! Hope your foot feels better soon. Good luck with the SA results!

SQ2 ~ Fingers crossed for you!

tealynn ~ Those are some high temps girl! Only 2 more days to Thursday...;)

Katie ~ Hope you feel better soon! It's no fun being sick.

LilOne

09-26-2006, 07:51 AM

Here it is...

katiems118

09-26-2006, 08:06 AM

Lilone- Your chart looks great!
Melandtim-hope the SA comes back ok.

Im still sick, DH is sick, no BDing since Sunday, no O yet either, not sure what is going on, CD 22.

cat_loverpq

09-26-2006, 08:07 AM

LilOne ~ Hmmm, it definitely looks like you O'd on CD18, but FF is saying you still have 3 more days before you should test...have you had really long LP's in the past?

LilOne

09-26-2006, 08:10 AM

Well this is my first cycle charting, so I'm not really sure. But after stopping BCP, May, June and July cycles where 29 days, August was 32 days.

tealynn

09-26-2006, 08:16 AM

Okay ladies, I'm throwing a party today...it's a Pity Party. You're all invited.

Today is my anniversary and good ol' AF decided to come, I was hoping for a more welcome visitor instead. I'm SO mad at myself for getting my hopes up, sad for this being my 6 month mark at TTCing w/ charting and just feeling deceived by my body. I'm just not sure I could feel any worse at the moment.

DH won't understand my pp because I already told him that we missed my O date but that didn't stop me from getting excited about my FPS. I know you all understand what I'm going through so there's no need to feel bad for me, I just needed to put it down in words and try to move forward.

I'll check in later w/ a hopefully much improved out look on the day.

FSUSammy

09-26-2006, 08:18 AM

tealynn - Happy Anniversary and sorry that AF showed up.

RobynScott

09-26-2006, 08:27 AM

Tealynn - I'm so sorry you're sad - of course, we totally understand where you are coming from! Vent away here!

I picked up an awesome book at Target this weekend called "The Conception Chronicles" (can't link, sorry) - it's really funny and so on-point about what we are going through (including what you just posted!)

DH was reading over my shoulder laughing with me last night on the section about how differently men and women react to the BFN.

Even though we know chances are slim, we hold out hope. He's heard us say for 2 weeks chances are slim - so it's not a surprise when it's BFN.

It was a fast, funny and interesting read. I'll link to it tonight if I can.

Gotta run to a meeting - Happy Anniversary and I hope your day improves!

SQ2

09-26-2006, 08:55 AM

Happy Anniversary, tealynn! I'm so sorry AF decided to show today. :( It helps to write thoughts and feelings down. I'm trying not to get my hopes up this cycle because I know how much it sucks to have them dashed. But it's so hard not to. Hang in there.

Welcome, LiLOne! I agree with catlover, you definitely O'd on CD18. Hope AF stays away!

Robyn I was waiting for one more high temp to officially say I O'd. I didn't want to get my hopes up, especially with my up and down temps and CM, but I think it's pretty much definite now. My longest LP to date was 14 days. I was thinking of testing at 15DPO, maybe 16 if I can hold out (oh who am I kidding, I can't wait that long). So next Wednesday the 4th maybe? How about you?

DelSol

09-26-2006, 11:53 AM

Sorry for the lack of shout-outs, got a headache today.

tealynn ~ happy anniversary! sorry about AF showing.

Robyn ~ sounds like a good book.

LilOne ~ Welcome!

Good Luck to those testing soon! We need some more BFPs for the end of the month!

Sorry if AF found anyone.

me ~ CD6, getting antsy but don't want to start too soon, DH will tucker out and I don't need that happening because I am determined to make our next cycle be a BFP.

risa00

09-26-2006, 12:03 PM

Could someone please look at my chart and let me know if you think I O'd? I think I did, but FF hasn't called it yet.

chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/risa00)

I personally think it was on cd17, but it's hard to tell.

DelSol

09-26-2006, 01:14 PM

risa00 ~ I would say CD17 also but with FF, it likes to see 3 high temps in a row and CD19 is what's throwing it off. I bet if you put a higher temp in for CD19 it will say you O'd on CD17.

sea74

09-26-2006, 02:05 PM

I have a question for you ladies. I just started charting this month and totally understand I have to take my temp first thing when waking up w/o getting out of bed. But here's my issue. I usually temp when my alarm goes off. But in the very beginning when I was getting used to Temping, I'd hit snooze a few times before remembering to Temp. Would that greatly throw off my numbers? Also, there are some mornings when I wake up about two hours early because the cat is walking on me or I hear a noise. Should I just temp then because I woke up? I'm not totally awake, but awake enough that I know what day and time it is and sometimes I can’t “fully” go back to sleep.

Your experience would be greatly appreciated!

FSUSammy

09-26-2006, 02:11 PM

sea74 - I guess it depends on how late you hit snooze for. I wouldn't think that it would greatly affect your temps. Also, regarding the cat. I do this myself but its not pet related. Sometimes I get paranoid about what time it is (been the victim of an alarm that never went off) so I'll wake up several times during the night and look at my alarm clock. I'm still very much asleep but it hasn't affected my temps. If anything I'd recommend that you make a note on your chart the days something like this happens so that you can see if it affects YOU. Everyone is different.

cat_loverpq

09-26-2006, 03:25 PM

sea74 ~ Like Sam said, hitting snooze shouldn't affect your temps too much, but it's best to get in a routine of temping immediately the first time the alarm goes off. And if you wake up a couple of hours early (so that you wouldn't get a full 3 hours before waking up again) you should temp the first time you wake up. Definitely make a note on your chart that the temp was taken earlier than usual, and if you are using FF you can tell it what time you temped and it will mark it with an open circle so you know it was "off" from your usual time. Actually, just today I woke up 2 hours earlier than my normal temp time (to use the bathroom) and temped then. If you look at my chart you will see an open circle as opposed to a closed dot.

The main thing to remember is not to get hung up on one or two particular temps, but to look for the overall pattern of your temps. Everyone has a fluke temp every now and then. :)

SQ2

09-26-2006, 03:34 PM

risa ~ Looks like a temp shift to me, but it's hard to say w/o CM info.

sea ~ Best to take your temp right when your alarm goes off. If the cats walk around on a regular basis in the morning, you shouldn't worry about it because your body is used to it. (For example, I often get up to pee an hour or 2 before my alarm goes off. Pretty much every night, but my temps reflect the fact that I do this. Does that make sense?)

honeygirl

09-26-2006, 06:11 PM

Tealynn - I'll come to your party, and I'll bring a big ole chocolate cake. :) Bummer about it happening on your anniversary. Happy Anniversary!! I hope that you and your DH are able to find some pleasure and peace in celebrating tonight.

sea74 - I've noticed that for me that waking up a little doesn't affect my temps. I even wake up early and wait a few minutes (while lying in bed) before temping and it doesn't affect (except the predicted tenth every 1/2 hour). It took a while to figure out what was normal for me. So, like the other ladies say, just make notes and in time you'll know if it makes a difference or not.

RobynScott - That book sounds interesting. I'll have to google it.

SQ2 - Congrats on Ovulating, and so early in your cycle! I'm no expert but your O date seems difficult to nail down. I wonder if you O'd later than it is saying, especially with that fallback? Or, maybe your temps jumped up on monday b/c you implanted on sunday? Ah, the possibilities. Here's hoping that you have some good news in a week or so. :)

FSUSammy - I hope that your cycle is winding down, one way or another! When are you supposed to stop taking the medication?

melandtim - Ouch, sorry about your foot. Are you wearing a big cast? I imagine having your foot stepped on by a heavy horse could cause some stress (and delay O). Here's hoping!

I'm a couple days behind so sorry to any ladies that I've missed.

Me: CD11, not much going on. We're BD here and there but my "window" should be at the end of next week. My DH will be gone Mon-Wed, so we'll be doing some pre and post airport BD. My DH is so sweet, he has a big trip coming up in November (9 days) and is trying to schedule it around my "window", which is almost impossible since the meeting is during my fertility week. However, he's trying to get back as quickly as possible. I'm hoping that we'll get pregnant this cycle, or, that my cycle will be a bit longer than usual, that way we won't have to worry about timing next month (november).

Sorry for the lengthy explanation. You ladies are the only ones I can vent to about all this.

polkadot

09-26-2006, 06:27 PM

Tealynn~Add my name to the VIP list for the party...you know i am in :rolleyes: Sorry af decided to show today...she has a way of ruinging EVERYTHING...(((hugs))))

sea74~ dont know if you remember me but we used to chat around here pretty often.,..glad to see you here...TTC is so crazy...I would temp as soon as I turn my alarm off that way i would get the closest, precise temp, i was looking for but...the thing to remember is not the actual temp but the pattern over the months...hope that helped..

RobynScott~ must check out that book....i read The Baby Trail and it was a sort of book like that...really good...i will google it also...thanks for the rec..

SQ2 - yay for Oing...I hope you caught the eggie

melandtim - Sorry about the foot...:o (((hugs)))

I too am behind...sorry to anyone I missed...

Me~ I am blissfully going through this cycle with no presssure...I havent a clue what cycle day I am and it feel good....I am so :cool:

Jess71903

09-26-2006, 07:00 PM

I don't think I have posted this question in here, but I did in the FP area...anyway. My dr. prescribed prometrium to take CD 14-24. Since I know most dr.s assume CD 14 O, I am wondering if I should wait until I see a temp shift to take it. I have read that progesterone dries up CM and I don't need that working against me. FYI it is to help decrease the # of spotting days pre AF.

polkadot

09-26-2006, 07:15 PM

jess~ my doc prescribed the prometrium for days 17-30 and then ordered my blood test...I would call the office and voice your concern, then they may have some info for you...are you on clomid?

Jess71903

09-26-2006, 07:20 PM

nope, not on clomid, so I am not being monitored. She said that I was having "asynchronous" shedding, so I am supposed to do this for a 2 or 3 months to get it back in sync. I have read a little more since I posted and I think I am going to wait until I see a temp shift. I have nice, normal shifts, so it should be fine.

ABirney

09-26-2006, 07:54 PM

Hi ladies...
I'm behind again so just checkin in.
Sorry to those with BFN's and AF, good luck to those O'ing!
tealynn Happy anniversary! Ours was yesterday. Sorry about the unwanted visitor.
melandtim ouch!

Nothing new here... my temps have been pretty flat this past week for some reason. I really doubt I'll O this month. Yesterday was our 2-yr anniv, thought for sure we'd have a baby by that landmark but I guess not. Hopefully something will happen by our 3-yr!

honeygirl

09-26-2006, 08:08 PM

Jess - I'm not sure if this applies, but I know that when I take progesterone (is this the same thing you're taking?) it raises my temp. So...if you take it before you O it will be harder to determine when you (or if) you O'd. Also, my dr has me take it 3 days after O until AF (to reduce spotting). Hope this helps.

honeygirl

09-26-2006, 08:12 PM

Happy anniversary ABirney! It's can be hard when our plans don't match up with reality. I hope that you'll be pregnant or have a baby by year #3!! I had plans too. First I wanted to have a baby before I turned 30, that's not going to happen! Now I just want to be pregnant before I turn 30! (I'm also hoping to be pregnant by Christmas). This makes me think of a new QOTD.

QOTD: Does anyone else have any changing (or still hoping for) plans?

numberlady

09-27-2006, 04:53 AM

Hey ladies, I haven't posted much because I was on vacation visiting my grandmother with my family. It was good and bad, but unfortunately the bad was so bad that I have decided to sever ties with my grandmother. It was a hard decision but a long time coming.

Anyways, I am going to try to only temp from about cd 10-20 and see if I don't go quite as mad. As some of you have said this is a hard process. Today would have been my due date and I was hoping to have a BFP by now to ease the pain.

QOTD: I have a great husband and a great job, now all I really want/need is a little bigger family. My plans right now are focused on that.

I will get caught up on s/o's later.

melandtim

09-27-2006, 05:02 AM

QOTD: Does anyone else have any changing (or still hoping for) plans?

My hope was to be PG by 30. Hmm well if I am not pg this month that will be out the window.

Numberlady - sorry your visit didn't go go well :(

ABirney - Happy Anniversary!!!

polkadot - thanks :) I've tried the blissfully unaware thing and it doesn't work for me. Call me obsessive compulsive :p

honeygirl - thankfully the foot wasn't broken so I only have one of those walking shoes. That helps since shoes hurt! Good luck this month, sounds like you are trying to make the best of your schedule.

CD17 for me. Temps up today so hopefully I O'd. The OPK line was faint yesterday, the day before it had 2 dark lines, not quite a positive but really really close. Last month my temps went back down after 3 days. We had great timing this month if I did O, so fingers crossed.

RobynScott

09-27-2006, 06:42 AM

QOTD: Does anyone else have any changing (or still hoping for) plans?

Like melandtim - I was also hoping to be PG by the time I was 30 / around 30 - well, if it doesn't happen for me, I won't be PG before I am 30 either. But maybe while I am 30 ...30 in 2 1/2 weeks and counting!

Honeygirl - I hear you on the travel, except that I am the one who will be gone next month practically the entire time I may be fertile. Who even knows?

I'm feeling a little less pressure right now. DH told me he wouldn't mind waiting till next year to TTC for a 2008 baby :eek:!

At first I was upset, but I know he would be happy now too - so I am just going to chart and try to see what happens - hopefully it will happen when it's meant to happen, and hopefully that's not too far away.

Of course, having said that - I should admit that I feel like a crazy person - obsessively checking CM for any signs of possible implantation spotting (of course, I thought I had IS last month and BFN, so what the heck good was it anyway) - and waiting to see if my temp shows an implantation dip. I was almost disappointed when my temp went up this morning - and then I thought - "wait, maybe I'll go triphasic!" crazy I know - though last night I dreamed that FF told me my chart was triphasic (which I know doesn't really mean everything).

That's about it. I'm nuts. Thinking about when to test. Was going to wait until 18 DPO on 10/7 (if AF was a no-show) - now thinking about this Sun, at 12 DPO. No good reason really - other than to get my levels checked as early as possible (especially b/c of the pre-AF spotting last month)

Speaking of pre-AF spotting, Jess, when I brought it up to my dr, she prescribed prometrium (to start next month if I spot again this month :rolleyes: - and told me to start 3 DPO - so I would wait for the temp shift if I were you.

Numberlady - sorry about the outcome of your visit - sounds like you made a decision that was good for you.

Happy Anniversary Abirney!
Hope your foot heals quickly Mel - sounds painful!
polkadot - keep enjoying the relaxed cycle ;)
Sammy - hope the new job is going well and that this cycle ends for you soon!

Sorry for anyone I missed - have a great day and try not to obsess too much - I think I'll be doing enough of that to cover all of us :p

- Robyn

DelSol

09-27-2006, 07:34 AM

ABirney ~ Happy Anniversary!

numberlady ~ sorry your visit didn't go well. I'm sure you made the right decision.

melandtim ~ I hope your foot is going better.

Robyn ~ I hope everything works out.

FSUSammy ~ I hope the new job is going good.

QOTD: Does anyone else have any changing (or still hoping for) plans?

I'm one of the older ones here and I think I have one of the older DH's here also, he'll be 38 in a few more weeks. When I was younger I always said I wanted a baby before I was 30, well I didn't get married until I was 30, once we got married we were going to start right away but DH got freaked out and we had some major issues to the point where we didn't know if our marriage would last. We are now coming up to our 2 year anniversary and everything is a lot better than what it was. We just started trying right before I turned 32 so I would love to be able to have our first baby before I turn 33. I have 2 more cycles of trying to accomplish having a baby before I turn 33.

If I could change one thing physically, it would be to have been able to lose weight. I tried but it didn't work out to well so I am battling my weight issues and wondering if that is hindering us getting pregnant.

FSUSammy

09-27-2006, 07:44 AM

honeygirl - Not sure when I was supposed to stop taking the Nexium. But I figured that I should at least try not taking it to see how I feel. Especially if we are back on the TTC- wagon I'd hate to have caught the egg with our pretty damn good timing and be taking the medicine since it hasn't really been ok'd to take while PG. I hope you manage to catch the egg this cycle too!

Jess - I'm not on Prometrium but I'm pretty sure most docs prescribe it to stop spotting before AF. If you take it before you O you could actually delay O or prevent it all-together so I'd honestly take it once you've confirmed O.

ABirney - Happy belated Anniversary! Your's is a week after mine.

numberlady - Sorry your trip didn't go so well. I'm sure you made the right decision for you and your future family.

Me - CD 60-something. Possibly 2 DPO. My temp was up again this morning, higher than yesterday's temp so I have a feeling that I did O when I thought I did. Of course tomorrow's temp will confirm that. I haven't updated my charts yet, I'll try to remember to do that tonight. I might have the beginnings of a UTI though. I had very very cloudy urine this morning and a bit of a burning sensation when I went. I popped a cranberry supplement this morning in hopes to suppress it and prevent having to go to the doctor's for antibiotics. I'm also going to drink a butt load of water today to help flush anything out of my system. The new job is going very well. I'm learning a lot, but that is to be expected in any new job. I hate how when you first start any new job things are kinda slow but I know that is very temporary.

QOTD - Several years ago I had told myself that I wanted to have both kids (wanted 2 at the time) before I was 30. Now that I'm 27 I honestly don't see that happening. After watching a butt load of The Baby Story shows on TLC I realized that I want our first child to be out of diapers before we have child #2. I used to think 3 years was the ideal age between children but I'm now thinking that maybe 4 or 5 is better. Who knows I guess we'll see what happens after the first comes along!

Chris~n~Jen

09-27-2006, 08:16 AM

Happy Anniversary, ABirney!

Sorry you had to make such a rough decision numberlady. I hope it gives you some peace.

Fingers crossed that you O'd melandtim.

RobynScott~ Maybe the "break" in obsessive charting will be just what you need to get your bfp. I know that I have felt much, much more relaxed now that I'm not charting as much.

Boo to an UTI FSUSammy! I hope the cranberry suppliment does the trick.

QOTD: Does anyone else have any changing (or still hoping for) plans?
Many, many years ago (like when I was in my early 20's) I thought I would be married at 23 have my first child at 25 then my second child at 28. Well that's totally out the window. I got married when I was 27. Now I'm just hoping to have my first by 30 and my second by 33. So that's the goal for now. It's funny how things never really turn out the way you "plan". :rolleyes:

me ~ Temp slowly rising. I'm hoping that I O'd on CD14 but the temps are only slightly rising so probably not. As soon as I know for sure that I O'd I'm going to stop temping.
The last two cycles I didn't temp at all and I can tell you that the obsessiveness went way, way down. I really think the fact that the first thing we think about each and every morning is our fertility is the main factor in the obsessiveness. I did realize that I don't like not knowing exactly what day I O'd, so I'm only temping long enough to figure that out then I'm done. Another factor that has helped lessen my obsessiveness is that I finished my paid version of fertility friend. I now only use the free chart. I think with the paid version there is just so much extra data you can enter and obsess about. Plus looking at all the other charts really did me in. So no more of that for me. :p

katiems118

09-27-2006, 08:24 AM

FSUSammy-thats great about the temp rise...I hope you O'ed

My temp rose this morning and FF gave me crosshairs, but I think I O'ed Monday/Tuesday as opposed to the Sunday that it gave me...we'll see this head cold is driving me nuts though..cant BD if you cant breathe... :(

Testing week of October 9th

RobynScott

09-27-2006, 08:25 AM

RobynScott~ Maybe the "break" in obsessive charting will be just what you need to get your bfp. I know that I have felt much, much more relaxed now that I'm not charting as much.

Oh no - I'll still be charting ;) I actually feel better charting - makes me feel like I have a smidgen of control in this process. I just feel less of an "I want it now" feeling than I had been - when it happens, it will happen - though obviously I hope it will be sooner rather than later!

we'll see if I'm singing the same tune a few months from now ...

sea74

09-27-2006, 08:57 AM

thank you ladies for your advice/help! After the first week of temping, I'm way better about taking it before hitting snooze. I think once I get a few cycles (unless we get PG right away!) under my belt I'll feel more confident.

At first I thought charting would be really complicated but as it turns out I'm enjoying it. I feel so out of control with TTC and getting my cycles back on track after being on the pill for so long, and I feel like charting is giving me back some control because I can start to see what my body is doing/getting ready to do.

cowgirl

09-27-2006, 09:58 AM

Thanks for all the well wishes for my Dad. He has been out for over a week and is doing good.

As for me I have had some more spotting off and on. I have not tested but will if af does not show by the weekend.

Sorry for no shout outs.

risa00

09-27-2006, 11:34 AM

FF isn't calling it, but Threadmistress, please move me to 'Think I O'd, testing 10/2 - 10/9. Thanks!

SQ2

09-27-2006, 12:05 PM

Robyn ~I should admit that I feel like a crazy person - obsessively checking CM for any signs of possible implantation spotting Well, if you're crazy so am I because I've been doing the same thing. Then of course my temp dipped down today and of course I think implantation dip. :rolleyes: Like you I was going to try to wait until later to test, maybe 15DPO, but I also had the same thought as you...maaaaybe I'll test at 12DPO, just for sh*ts and giggles. Heehe. No, must wait must wait must wait. Just a week to go...

RobynScott

09-27-2006, 12:09 PM

ooh - SQ2 - we're both 8DPO! I don't think I will be able to resist on Sunday - but we'll see.

I've been waiting to see my temp drop for an implantation dip and was almost disappointed this morning when it didn't - silly girl I know!

SQ2

09-27-2006, 12:13 PM

People implant at different times. I think anywhere from 7-10DPO is average. Ok we have to keep tabs on each other. Let's try to hold out until at least 14DPO, k? :D

RobynScott

09-27-2006, 12:35 PM

Let's try to hold out until at least 14DPO, k? :D

Sorry - don't think I can. 14 DPO is during the week - I wouldn't be able to concentrate on work. Think maybe I will test Sun at 12 DPO - if that's BFN - wait for either AF to show or test on Saturday 10/7 if she hasn't. we'll see.

I was planning on waiting for AF - but with last month's spotting, I am thinking I might want to have my levels tested ASAP.

We'll see I guess :)

LilOne

09-27-2006, 01:10 PM

DPO17, still no AF, but another BFN this morning. I'm going to try to wait until Friday to retest, that's the test date FF gave me. I don't know if that will work or not!

Charting is Knowledge

09-27-2006, 01:20 PM

Updated to Here!

Welcome Lilone!

katiems118

09-27-2006, 01:22 PM

Lilone-Wow your chart looks great, Im surprised you havent seen a BFP yet at 17DPO, are your usual leutal phases longer than 17 days? Perhaps the tests you have test for higher hcg ?

Here are the ones from PAGE 1 of this topic
AimStick Pregnancy Test Strip 20 mIU
AccuHome Midstream Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Pregnancy Test (Cup) 25 mIU
Clearblue +/- 25 mIU
Clearblue Digital 25 mIU
Confirm 1-Step Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Dollar Store Brand Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Equate Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
First Response Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
One Step Be Sure Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Precise Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Quickview Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Walgreen Digital 25 mIU
e.p.t. Home Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
Fact Plus Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
CVS Cartridge Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
CVS Midstream Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Drug Emporium Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. + / - Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. Certainty Digital Test 50 mIU

LilOne

09-27-2006, 01:44 PM

this is the first cycle i've charted, so I'm not really sure of my normal LP stage. My cycles are normally 29 days, last month was 32 days. I'm CD 35 now.

The test I used was CBE digital.

katiems118

09-27-2006, 02:23 PM

Lilone--I went to http://www.peeonastick.com/hpts.html and it says that CBE could range from 25-50mIU, so maybe thats the issue?

LilOne

09-27-2006, 02:43 PM

Katie - Thanks for that info. The site I saw said 25mIU. I hope that's what's going on! We'll see...

FSUSammy

09-27-2006, 02:47 PM

Lilone - I'd give it a few more days and then test again if your temps are still up. Of course if you get to 18 DPO and your temp is still up you can almost guarantee you are PG.

honeygirl

09-27-2006, 03:02 PM

Hang in there LilOne, I know that waiting is the worst part!

Jess71903

09-27-2006, 03:48 PM

DPO17, still no AF, but another BFN this morning. I'm going to try to wait until Friday to retest, that's the test date FF gave me. I don't know if that will work or not!

I just looked at your chart and I think it's possible you didn't O until the 14th, which would put you at 13DPO. Just for fun, lower that temp on the 13th to normal pre-O and see if it moves it to the 14th.

As for me, still no temp shift. I have decided until 2 DPO to start the prometrium, so thank you girls for your input!

katiems118

09-27-2006, 03:55 PM

Lilone-I think we all are rooting for you for that BFP!!! You have to update us tomorrow!!

LilOne

09-27-2006, 04:58 PM

[QUOTE=Jess71903;992246]I just looked at your chart and I think it's possible you didn't O until the 14th, which would put you at 13DPO. Just for fun, lower that temp on the 13th to normal pre-O and see if it moves it to the 14th.

I tried that, and your right, that did change O date to the 14th. Of course, it's saying it doesn't match what I put in for CF info.

I hate this waiting!!

I'll update when I know something.

Thanks!!!

polkadot

09-27-2006, 05:16 PM

i hate that i dont have any advice for anyone....:rolleyes:

I got a call from my doctor today, my levels are below 2 now , so i dont have to go in for another beta blood draw, thank god, Since I look like a IV drug user...they really suck at taking blood.:rolleyes:

Anyway...this was sent to me this morning...hope it makes yall laugh...:D

http://i.euniverse.com/funpages/cms_content/12925/greaserbabies.swf

SQ2

09-27-2006, 06:34 PM

Robyn ~ Ah, no worries. I was just trying to get someone on the bandwagon to wait with me, but who am I kidding, I'll probaby test on Sunday too. (Although DH is harping on me to wait until Thursday :rolleyes: - maybe I'll test in secret and if it's BFN, just won't tell him....hehe)

DelSol

09-27-2006, 06:38 PM

polkadot ~ thanks for sharing, I got a good laugh. :)

ABirney

09-27-2006, 09:46 PM

Ok, I'll attempt so's... sorry in advance if I miss anyone!
Thanks to everyone for the anniversary wishes!
numberlady sorry you had to make such a rough decision and at a bad time too.
Mel, katie, and risa hope you caught your eggs!
Robyn and SQ2 Hope you both get your BFP's!
DelSol I hear ya on the wt loss... I'm sure that's what's causing our problems. But it's so hard!
FSUSam happy belated anniversary to you! Sucks about the UTI. Glad you may have O'd though after such a long cycle!
Chris-n-jen I'm thinking of not renewing my VIP on FF too... I have 2 days left to decide before it expires. Maybe I'll change my mind but we'll see.
sea glad to hear you're enjoying charting so far.
cowgirl hope that spotting goes away for good!
LilOne hope you get a BFP soon! Your chart looks great!
jess hope you get your temp shift soon.
polkadot glad to hear you're done with b/w. Too cute on the "Grease babies!"

melandtim

09-28-2006, 05:42 AM

Quick flyby for now

Good luck to all testers this weekend. Hope you get your BFP!

CD18 for me, FF gave me crosshairs on CD15 so that makes me 3DPO though not ready to call it yet. Temp even higher today and FF says I have a high chance of getting pg, we had great timing this time. Missed the doctor's office, they called my work even though I gave them my cell # so will call today. Nurse called so the test results should have been fine.

kanga1622

09-28-2006, 06:43 AM

Just a quick stop. I was sick a good portion of last week so I'm expecting a late O this month.

I won't be around much for the next month. Work is still busier than normal and I'm up for promotion so I'm trying to be good and stay off non-work related sites during the work day (which is why I come in early now so I can try to read along here).

QoTD - I told DH I wanted a baby by 28 when we first got together so we'll see if that happens. We always thought we'd buy a house before TTC but we just can't afford to buy a house here and pay daycare. Maybe we'll get lucky and win the lottery. Oh yeah, you have to play to win. :rolleyes: :)

Loud_curly

09-28-2006, 07:02 AM

Well, I'm back from my business trip, and it looked as if I still haven't O'ed, so we're good to go (although DH might be working really late tonight - fingers crossed for a BD session). We were able to get in a BD session Tuesday morning before I left, and then another one last night when I returned. I was expecting to see my temp shoot up this morning, but so far it's still in the same range. I'm at CD17, which seems late for me to O, but maybe that's why we're still not pg - we stopped the BDing too soon! I'd like to O today, since that would put 14DPO on my birthday (Oct. 11). Guess I'll wait until tomorrow to get a better sense.

QoTD - Well, I never had set plans for getting pg. We've been married 6+ years now, and it's really only been the last year where I could see us in a good place for children.

As far as shoutouts,
Tealynn - Happy late anniversary - so sorry for the unwanted "gift" of AF.
Polkadot - Thanks for the laugh!
All those who just Oed or are waiting to test - Hope to be joining you all in the next day or two!

FSUSammy

09-28-2006, 07:05 AM

Mel - When are you planning on testing?

Me - Officially 3 DPO! Woohoo! I hope this isn't a fluke since I had thought I O'd earlier in my cycle, but apparently never did.

Threadmistress can you update all this for me:

Think I O'ed - Testing 10/09 - 10/15

CC Name: FSUSammy
Me: Samantha/27
DH: Gary/30
Married since: 9/18/04
Off BCP since: 11/05
TTC since: 7/06
Charting since: 11/05
Known issues/test results: Long cycles, sometimes anovulatory
http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=fsusammy

FSUSammy

09-28-2006, 07:16 AM

Quick question ladies. How soon after ovulation can implantation happen??? I'm 3 DPO and just went to the bathroom and when I wiped I saw a tiny red spot. Let the FPS start!! LOL

LilOne

09-28-2006, 07:32 AM

My temp dropped this morning, so I didn't bother to test. I'm guessing AF is just around the corner. I guess my cycles arn't regular after stopping BCP yet. :(

FSUSammy

09-28-2006, 07:38 AM

LilOne - Sorry about the temp drop. When did you go off of BCPs? I've been off of them for almost a year now and I'm still not regular.Trying not to bring you down but I really feel that the myth about it taking 3 cycles is a bunch of BS.

LilOne

09-28-2006, 07:43 AM

I stopped BCP the end of April. I guess it's taking longer than I thought to get back to "normal" :rolleyes:

DelSol

09-28-2006, 07:58 AM

LilOne ~ I think everyone is different when they stop BCPs. My OB/GYN told me I could stop them 3 months before trying, DH's PCP told him I should stop taking them a year before we start trying. I happened to stop in August 2005 because my 3 month supply didn't come in time and I just stopped them. So I have been off them for a year and I can see a pattern now thanks to charting. Since you are charting I think you'll start to see a pattern with your cycles. I know some people get lucky and get pg right off of BCPs. Good Luck!

FSUSammy ~ From FF:

When does implantation occur? Can I see signs of implantation on my chart?

If conception occurred, implantation (when the fertilized egg attaches to the uterine wall) typically happens seven to ten days after ovulation, but it can happen a few days earlier or later as well.

There are some signs of implantation or successful conception that may be seen on your chart but all of them can occur with or without pregnancy. You can also be pregnant and see none of these signs on your chart. There is thus really no way to know if they are related to implantation while they are happening, though they occur with greater frequency on pregnancy charts. Some possible signs of implantation or successful conception are:

*light spotting that happens for just a brief period of time around seven to ten days past ovulation.
*a second thermal shift that occurs around seven to ten days past ovulation.
*a dip in temperature that lasts just a single day, around seven to ten days past ovulation.

While these signs may offer clues as to whether or not you have an increased probability of pregnancy, they are really not a reliable way to gauge whether or not you may be pregnant. You can experience any of these signs and be pregnant, or not pregnant, just as you can experience none of these signs and be pregnant or not pregnant. Keep this in mind when you are scrutinizing your chart while you wait to take a pregnancy test.

While you can be cautiously optimistic if you do see these signs (if you have well-timed intercourse during your fertile time) there is no way to really know if you are pregnant before you can reliably test for pregnancy. Likewise, if you do not see these signs (and you have well-timed intercourse within your fertile time) you need not give up hope before the end of your cycle. Many women do not experience implantation signs or very early pregnancy signs at all.

loud_curly ~ good luck Oing. That would be cool to get a BFP near your bday, DH's bday is 10/14 but my O won't come until next week so I probably wouldn't testing until last week in October, too late for DH's bday.

kanga1622 ~ I hope you are feeling better, good luck catching the egg!

katiems118

09-28-2006, 08:03 AM

My doctor told me that I had to wait at least 12 months for my cycles to get regular after being on the pill for 9 years...its been 4 months and Im Oing regularly, just the day is strange, like CD 16, 20, and 21.

Lilone-sorry your temp dropped this morning.

Sammy-looks like we are on the same day, 3dpo!!

FSUSammy

09-28-2006, 08:11 AM

DelSol - Thanks for the info. So maybe the pink stuff I saw was a figment of my imagination. LOL

Katie - We need to start a 3 DPO club. LOL When are you planning on testing?

katiems118

09-28-2006, 08:12 AM

Sammy-Im going to test on 12dpo if my temps are still high, so that would be October 7th

FSUSammy

09-28-2006, 08:20 AM

Katie - Oh that sounds good. I probably will wait for at least 14 DPO. My LPs have varied so I don't know when is best to test. I need my temps to go up a tad more though.

ABirney

09-28-2006, 08:42 AM

Good morning ladies!
melandtim Hope you get good news on your lab results and that you caught your egg.
kanga good luck with the promotion! Hope you are feeling better.
LoudCurly hopefully you'll O soon now that you are back home. My DH's bday is also Oct 11.
FSUSam Yay for finally O'ing!!
LilOne sorry to hear about the temp drop. Hope it's just a fluke and AF stays away!

As for me, my temps have been slightly up the past 2 days after being flat for a week. I've also had some creamy/slightly stretchy CM a couple times in the past few days, though nothing like the EWCM I used to get back when I was O'ing. So maybe I did have a weak O? I'll have to wait a couple more days and see what my temps do, they aren't r