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Charting is Knowledge
07-13-2005, 12:18 PM
TTCers of ConstantChatter:
Charting Our Course to the BFPs


http://www.ripleysorlando.com/images2/fertilitystatues.jpg
The fertility statues are known to work for some who rub them around the time of possible conception.
It is said that the baby is the most potent part of the statue.

So rub away! :D It's worth a shot!


Who we are:
This is a group of women using charting (temperatures, CM, CP, OPK/FM results, or a combination of these) to try to conceive and, along the way, are learning a heckuvalot about their own bodies! Many of us use a software program to keep track of our charts as well as allowing us to share them with each other. The most common ones are FertitlityFriend.com and Ovusoft.com.

Your threadmistress for this thread is Baby Lust!
If you have any questions, comments or suggestions, feel free to email me! (charting_is_knowledge@yahoo.com)


To our members:
This thread gets very busy at times, so in order to keep things less overwhelming and a bit more organized, we start a new thread each month as well as after 3 BFPs. A link to the new thread is always posted at the end of the current thread to help everyone find their way over. The threadmistress would really appreciate it if everyone would post their updates in Red. That way, if I get a bit behind, it is much quicker to get the thread up-to-date.


Previous Thread... (http://www.constantchatter.com/showthread.php?t=1913)


KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!

Want to join the fun??
We welcome one and all. It doesn’t matter if you have never charted before or if you’ve been charting to avoid. I am sure you will find lots of help and support in this group.

If you would like to join, CD1 is the time to do it! That way, we can cheer you on
throughout your cycle, rather than 2 days before you test! :cool:

Please don't be discouraged by the number of posts in this thread. You don’t have to read the whole thread to join. Feel free to just jump in on the last page. Just read through these first couple of posts and post a reply with the following information and we will get you added right away. Of course, none of this info is a must but we like to know a little bit about one another.


WC Name: If Applicable
Me: name/age
DH: name/age
Married since: date
Off BCP since: date
TTC since: date
Charting since: date
Known issues/test results:
Chart: link
Current status: waiting to O, What the bleep .., testing...

Charting is Knowledge
07-13-2005, 12:19 PM
- Member ETF Status

Percolating:
Expecting Mommies!

July:
crazycaro (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21ac6), Elenitsa (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=13&id=elenitsa&tc=0&p=), Heidi0622 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/549f8), Jane&Andy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c455f), Kopper (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/9e5e6), MrsCantDecide (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59e5b), Red_Canuck, ShannonGH (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ShannonGH), Tracie (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/a18c8), Tunibell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59461)

June: Christy5599, Lovin'it

Lutealating:

Think I O'd - Testing 7/25 - 7/31:
Akachan93 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/229b9), Gator97 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/84b2d), JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf), Missy328 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2b4de)

Think I O'd - Testing 8/1 - 8/7:
DallasLady (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1b17d), mrsT2b2003 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/alt), Polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d), ShelbyMay (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/67c07)


Think I O'ed - Testing 8/8 - 8/14:


Folliculating:
Waiting to O (aka - Boring Part of the Cycle)
amurphy, Bellefior (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6231d), Bumble, CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas), dlj78 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=dlj78), ds2003 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ds2003), Guinness (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=9&id=guinness&tc=0&p=), gymwidow, hbeshore (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/721bb), Ilovemygeek (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bec65), Kaeden's Mommy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bcdb2), Katmg (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/89994), LittleStar (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c204a), Lizard (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/af125), Lowcountrywed (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c4aeb), Marteneym (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fa78), Mayham (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/be39e), MMHinCA (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c14c1), Mystikal (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/RaeK622), Ryan (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3f12b), SilentBunny (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ae6c8), Stumbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b1333), UTChick (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf25d), Wrighty26 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/beb7b)

Stagnating:
What the *bleep* is going on?!?!
Spencer's_Girl


Taking a Charting Break/Temporarily TTA:
Baby Lust (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Shanes_Angel) - SWH until September, Babylove (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=lotsofbabylove) - Taking a break, GMB4503 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/28f73) - Taking a break from this thread


Tributatoring:
Proud Cheerleaders!
Flygirl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/flygirl), Sevilla (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1b18e), t3h_wookie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/25336)

Please advise if I’m off-target with your ETF (that's Estimated Test-Fest) or other status, or just need a good old-fashioned Ovary Shout!

-- Please remember to post all updates in red! Thank you!

Charting is Knowledge
07-13-2005, 12:20 PM
Our Members:

Akachan93 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/229b9)
WC Name: Akachan93
Me: Angela/30
DH: Todd/39
Married since: 4-20-02
DS: Charlie 2-13-04
Off BCP since: 12-04
TTC since: 12-04
Charting since: 2-05
Known issues/test results:
None that we know of

amurphy
Me: murphy/30
DH: 33
Married since: 8/2002
Off BCP since: 4/2005
TTC since: 4/2005
Charting since: 6/2005
Known issues/test results:
chemical pregnancy in June

Baby (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Shanes_Angel)Lust (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=strawberry+lemonade)
WC Name: Shanes_Angel
Me: Amanda/22
DH: Shane/27
Married since: 10/19/02
No longer avoiding: 10/03
Charting since: 6/04
TTC since: 3/04
Known issues/test results:
B/W: 12/04 - Normal SA-high count, low motility, no ovulation; 50mg Clomid April/May;
Chemical pregnancy 6/13; 100mg Clomid June

Babylove (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=lotsofbabylove)
Me: babylove (Tracee)
DH: Kevin
married: 08/31/03
Off BCP: November 2004
TTC: March 2005
Known issues:
m/c @ 6w4d in April 2005; short LP corrected w/ progesterone supps

Bellefior (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6231d)
WC Name: Bellefior
ME: 36
DH: 35
Married since: 5/31/03
Off BCP since: 5/05
TTC since: 5/05
Charting since: 5/05
Known issues/test results:
None

bumble
DH: 33
Married since: 8.2003
TTC since: 4.2005
Charting since: 1.2005
Known issues/test results:
miscarriage 6.2005 (8 weeks)

crazycaro (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21ac6) *BFP!
Me: Caroline/32
DH: Jason/33
Married since: 20 September 2003
Off BCP since: Wasn't on it
TTC since: April 2005
Charting since: 1 June 2005
Known issues/test results:
I have a unicornuate uterus

CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas)
WC username: ManzekM
ME: MMT age 33
DH: CT age 36
Married: 11/04
Off BCP: 12/04
TTC since: 01/05
Known issues/test results:
Long cycles

DallasLady (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1b17d)
Me: Giovanna, 25
DH: Tony, 39
Married since: 9-21-2001
Off BCP since: Nov. 2002
TTC since: Jan. 2005
Charting since: Nov. 2002
Known issues/test results:
SA results- Low count and morphology

dlj78 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=dlj78)
WC Name: dlk78
Me: Dana/27
DH: Nick/31
Married since: 9/18/04
Off BCP since: 2/2005
TTC since: 6/2005
Charting since: 2/2005
Known issues/test results:
none that I know

ds2003 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ds2003)
Me: 27
DH: 31
Married since: 11/08/03
Off BCP: 12/03
TTC since: 6/04
Charting since: 7/04
Known issues:
dx PCOS 7/04, annovulatory
Test results:
DH's SA-normal; HSG 1/14/05-normal; Ovarian Drilling 5/20/05-all other findings normal
Meds: 3 failed Clomid cycles (50, 100, 150 mg); Currently only taking 1500mg Metformin

Elenitsa (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=13&id=elenitsa&tc=0&p=) *BFP!
Me: Eleni/30
DH: Vasilis/39
Married since: 01.31.04
Off BCP since: never on it
TTC since: June 2005
Charting since: 2004
Known issues/test results:
none

Ellebelle (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2f8f5)
Me: 27
DH: 34
Married: 06.21.03
Off BCP: 08.03
Charting Since: 08.03
TTC Since: 06.05
Known issues/test results:
none

Flygirl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/flygirl)
Me: Jen, 30
DH: Jeff, 35
Married since: 2/22/03
Off BCP since: 4/03
TTC since: Starting as soon as I see DH again!
Charting since: 4/04
Known issues/test results:
none

Freckles
WC Name: ilovepac
ME: 29
DH: 36
Married since: 2/1/03
Off BCP since: Never really on BCPs
TTC since: 6/04
Charting since: 9/04
Known issues/test results:
Too many issues to list here, but suffice to say I am taking a drug ****tail of clomid 100 mg, progesterone, and estrogen.

Gator97 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/84b2d)
Me: Kristen/30
DH: Peter/30
Married since: 11/06/04
Off BCP since: 12/04
TTC since: 2/05
Charting since: 12/04
Known issues/test results:
none

Guinness (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=9&id=guinness&tc=0&p=)
Me: Caroline (30)
DH: Tom (31)
Married since: 4/25/03
Off BCP since: 8/04
TTC since: 6/05
Charting since: 8/04
Known issues/test results:
None

gymwidow
Me: Melissa/28
DH: Alan/29
Married since: June '03
Off BCP since: Feb. '05
TTC since: June '05
Charting since: Feb. '05
Known issues/test results:
none known

hbeshore (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/721bb)
WC name: htravelo
Me: Holly, 29
DH: Jason, 31
Married since: 6/19/04
Off BCP: 10/03 (I think)
TTC since: 9/04 off and on
Charting Since: 1/2005
Known issues/test results:
None

Heidi0622 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/549f8) *BFP!
Me: Heidi / 29
DH: Mike / 29
Married: 6/22/02
TTC since: 3/04
Charting since: 6/04
Known issues/test results:
m/c at 5.5 wks 10/04, SA excellent, saline u/s all clear, bw normal, unexplained IF, started 50mg Clomid 06/05

Ilovemygeek (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bec65)
Me: Rachel (22)
DH: Trevor (23)
Married since: June 8, 2002
Off BCP since: June 12, 2005
TTC since: As soon as my cycles regulate themselves
Charting since: June 12, 2002
Known issues/test results:
None

Jane&Andy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c455f) *BFP!
Me: Jane, 28
DH: Andy, 31
Married: May 24, 2003
Off BCP since: Dec 04
TTC since: April 05
Charting since: June 05
Known issues/test results:
None

JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf)
Me: Jody, 32
DH: Scott, 31
Married Since: August 30, 2003
Off BCP Since: At least 10 years now
Charting Since: January 2005
Known issues/test results:
None

Kaeden's Mommy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bcdb2)
Me: Kelly, 24
DH: Jared, 23
Married since: 8/2/03
DS: Kaeden: 8/15/04
TTC since: April 2005
Charting since: June 2005
Known issues/test results:
none

Katmg (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/89994)
Me: Katmg, 26
DH: Jim, 30
Married since: Nov. 8, 2003
Off BCP since: 05/04
Charting since: 08/04
TTC since: 05/05
Known issues/test results:
None

Kopper (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/9e5e6) *BFP!
Me: Kopper/26
DH: 28
Married since: 9/21/02
Off BCP since: Sometime in 2001
TTC since: 7/04
Charting since: 3/05
Known issues/test results:
CD3 blood work: normal; HSG: All clear; SA: Low morphology

LittleStar (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c204a)
Me: Julie (30)
DH: Bradley (31)
Married: 3/10/2001
Off BCP: 6/2005
TTC: 6/2005
Known issues/test results:
None

Lizard (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/af125)
Me: Liz (30)
DH: Chris (33)
Married since: Sept. 20, 2003
Off BCP since: May 2005
TTC since: May 2005
Charting since: May 2005
Known issues/test results:
none

Lowcountrywed (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c4aeb)
Me: Melissa, 27
DH: Mark, 30
Married: 09.01.2002
Off BCP: 01.05
Charting Since: 07.05
TTC Since: 04.05
Known issues:
chemical preg (05.05)

Charting is Knowledge
07-13-2005, 12:23 PM
Members continued...


Marteneym (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fa78)
Me: 22
DH: 27
Married since: October 4, 2003
SWH since: October 2004
TTC since: December 2004
Off BCP since: September 2004
Known issues/test results:
None

Mayham (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/be39e)
Me: 28
DH: 28
Married since: 5.02
Off BCP since: 9.03
TTC since: 3.05
Charting since: 5.05
Known issues/test results:
None

Mel7dog
ME: Melissa, 23
DH: Carrick, 22
Married since: Jan. 15, 2005
Off BCP since: July 2005
TTC since: July 2005
Charting since: July 2005
Known issues/test results:
None

Missy328 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2b4de)
WC Name:Missy32708
Me: Lisa/36
DH: Jim/37
DD: Katie 4-16-04
Married since: 5/17/03
Off BCP since: 12/04
TTC since: 12/04
Charting since: 3/05
Known issues/test results:
none

MMHinCA (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c14c1)
WC Name: july26bride
Me: M (27)
DH: E (29)
Married since: July.26.2003
Off BCP since: June.2005
TTC since: June.2005
Charting since: June.23.2005
Known issues/test results:
None yet.

MrsCantDecide ( http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59e5b) *BFP!
WC Name: MissCantDecide
Me: Stefani/28
DH: Shane/31
Married since: May 4th, 2002
Off BCP since: March 2004
TTC since: July 2004
Charting since: July 2004
Known issues/test results:
Short LP

mrsT2b2003 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/alt)
WC Name: mrsT2b2002
Me:30
DH:36
Married since: 9/7/03
Charting since: 2/05
Known issues/test results:
None

Mystikal (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/RaeK622)
Me: Rachel/25
DH: Joe/31
Married since: 6/22/02
Off BCP since: 11/2002
TTC since: 5/05
Charting since: 10/03
Known issues/test results:
short LP-taking B6, magnesium, and zinc

Polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d)
WC Name: ladibugglet
Me: Lauren/26
DH: Brian/26
Married since: Nov, 20, 2004
Off BCP since: may 20 2005
TTC since: July 2005
Charting since:5/28/05
Known issues/test results:
none

Ryan (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3f12b)
WC Name: Ryanm33
Me/Age: Ryan/ 28
DH/Age: Joe/28
Married Since: 12/13/03
OFF BCP Since: 12/03
TTC Since: 03/05
Charting Since: 12/03
Known issues/test results:
None that I know of...

ShannonGH (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ShannonGH) *BFP!
Me: Shannon (28)
Dh: Burton (32)
Married: 10/19/02
Charting since: 5/03
TTC since: 6/05
Known issues:
Short LP

ShelbyMay (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/67c07)
Me: Shelby/25
DH: James/27
Married since: 5/17/03
Off BCP since: early September 2004
TTC since: 2/16/05
Charting since: 9/08/04
Known issues/test results:
possible semen allergy/antibodies

SilentBunny (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ae6c8)
Me: Kirsten,34
DH: Sean, 31
Married since: May 22, 2004
Off BCP since: End of january, 2005
TTC since:February 2005
Charting since: Consistently since April 7, 2005
Known issues:
Crazy-ass long cycles which run in the family; "mild PCOS"; started 500mg Metformin; will increase in a week. After a few months, if no baby, will look to Clomid.

Spencer's_Girl
Me: melissa / 23
DH: keith / 34
Married since: Sept. 11, 2004
Off BCP since: August 26, 2004
TTC since: Sept. 11, 2004
Charting since: November 20, 2004
Known issues/test results:
None

Stumbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b1333)
Me: Stumbles, 24.
DH: 37.
Married since: September 14, 2002.
Off BCP since: December, 2002.
TTC since: May, 2005.
Charting since: May, 2005.
Known issues/test results:
None.

Tracie (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/a18c8) *BFP!
WC Name: Tracie61
Me: Tracie/28
DH: 30
Married since: June 29. 2002
Off BCP since: December 31, 2004
TTC since: January 2005 (on and off)
Charting since: March 2005
Known issues/test results:
Family history of fertility problems

Tunibell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59461) *BFP!
Me: Jessika, 30
DH: Pete, 28
Married Since: June 12, 2004
Off BCP Since: April 2005
Charting Since: April 2005
Known Issues:
None

UTChick (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf25d)
Me: Kathy 27 (28 in August)
DH: Mike 34
Married since: September 20, 2003
Off BCP since: December 2004
TTC since: May 2005
Charting since: May 2005
Known issues/test results:
None

Wrighty26 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/beb7b)
Me (Michelle): 27
DH (Dan): 27
Married: 12.28.02
Off BCP: 01/2004
Charting Since: on and off since 2004
TTC Since: 05.05

Charting is Knowledge
07-13-2005, 12:24 PM
Things I Have Learned About TTC
by WC's Sherylb

* TTC is a journey. You will discover things about yourself that you never expected. You will face fears you never thought you had. You will find joy in little things.
* TTC can bring you closer to your DH, or it can pull you apart. If your marriage is not solid, you will find out quickly.
* No one understands exactly what you are feeling at any given moment, but someone can empathize at least a little bit.
* You will experience an emotional roller coaster ride. There will be highs and lows and fast moments and slow. Sometimes you have to wait in a very, very slow moving line. You may not even get the seat you want. It is not always fun, it can be scary, but in the end it is worth it.
* "Just relax" is the last thing in the world you want to hear from someone, but it is OK if you say it about yourself.
* There will be moments when you question your own decision to start TTC. You will wonder if you should wait or if you should just give up. Those are normal. But you will get past those feelings.
* The blue and green turtle likes to pop its head out! You will hear of someone's pregnancy and turn green with envy and blue inside because it isn't you.
* It isn't fair, it isn't easy, and it isn't pretty. But you keep doing it because the reward is worth it.
* You will be your best friend and your worst enemy. Your body will
surprise you and yet disappoint you.
* Some women do get lucky and conceive right away. Others aren't so lucky and have to struggle to get there. Hope you will be in the first category, but prepare yourself to be in the second.
* Once you decide to TTC, there will be babies and pregnant women everywhere! You could swear there is a baby boom going on!
* You will have questions. No one will ever be in exactly your position, so don't be surprised when no one can give you exactly the answer you are looking for. But there are people that can contribute, so don't be afraid to ask!
* Two lines on a pregnancy test is not the end of the struggle. Pregnancy has lots of struggles in and of itself.


HTP sensitivity chart

These numbers might come in handy when shopping for HPTs. The lower the amount of mIU measured, the more sensitive the test is!

AimStick Pregnancy Test Strip 20 mIU
AccuHome Midstream Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Pregnancy Test (Cup) 25 mIU
Clearblue +/- 25 mIU
Clearblue Digital 25 mIU
Confirm 1-Step Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Dollar Store Brand Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Equate Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
First Response Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
One Step Be Sure Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Precise Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Quickview Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Walgreen Digital 25 mIU
e.p.t. Home Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
Fact Plus Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
CVS Cartridge Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
CVS Midstream Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Drug Emporium Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. + / - Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. Certainty Digital Test 50 mIU
early Pregnancy test 50 mIU
RiteAid Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Target Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
WalMart Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Walgreens Pregnancy Test 100 mIU

Charting is Knowledge
07-13-2005, 12:26 PM
- Common TTC abbreviations
This is a list of some of the more common TTC abbreviations. I know as a newcomer to the TTC threads, it can be hard to keep them all straight. I hope these will help, and if anyone has any they would like added, please let me know!

•2WW: "2 week wait" - The approximate time from possible conception to menstruation due date; Pregnancy tests should be taken near the end of the 2WW.
•AF: "Aunt Flo"; Your period; Menstruation
•AFNW: "Aunt Flo Not Wanted"; the day your period is expected to start, but you are hoping it doesn't!
•AO: anovulatory (cycle without ovulation)
•BBs: "boobs"; breasts
•BBL: "be back later"
•BBT: Basal Body Thermometer; This is used to measure your basal body temperature, when you wake up in the morning, after at least 3 hours of sleep, before you start to move around; Use a special BBT thermometer to take your temperature because they measure the small changes in temperature from day to day more accurately than the regular fever thermometers.
•BCP: Birth control pills
•BD'ing: "baby dancing"; baby-making intercourse
•BFN: "Big Fat Neutral" or “Big Fat Negative”; Negative pregnancy test.
•BF'ing: breast-feeding
•BRB: "be right back"
•CD: cycle day; a particular day in your menstrual cycle (example: CD1 is the first day of your period)
•CL: Cover Line; a visual tool used to separate the low (pre-ovulatory) temps from high (post-ovulatory) temps; a coverline is typically based on the temperatures 6 days prior to ovulation.
•CM: cervical mucous; one of the most useful clues your body can give you in predicting your fertility; it can range from dry, creamy, sticky, or (the most fertile) egg white/watery type.
•CF: cervical fluid; same as cervical mucus
•CP: cervical position; an optional, but sometimes really useful, fertility sign; CP will generally be low, firm and closed before and after ovulation, and high, soft and open during your fertile time.
•DD: "dear daughter"
•DH: "dear husband"
•DS: "dear son"
•DPO: Days Past Ovulation; number of days from your post-ovulatory temperature rise. (Example: 1DPO is the day after your ovulation)
•Endo: endometriosis (can be a fertility problem)
•EDC and EDD: estimated date of confinement (antiquated, but still used by physicians) and estimated date of delivery
•EPT: a brand of pregnancy test, or, generic for "early pregnancy test"
•EW or EWCM: egg white cervical mucus; the most fertile quality CM; it is slippery, clear and stretchy, like egg whites; also EWCF
•FAM: Fertility Awareness Method; the method of fertility and/or birth control that correlates the physical changes you experience during your cycle to predict when you are most fertile
•FF: Fertility Friend, an online (free, for basic services) fertility charting site (website); (could also be formula feeding; check context)
•FM: fertility monitor
•FMU: first morning urine
•FP: follicular phase; the phase before ovulation, where the egg matures in the ovaries
•FRED: First Response Early Detection (pregnancy test)
•HCG: human chorionic gonadotropin; the hormone that is present during pregnancy and what the HPT's and blood test measure to determine if you are pregnant
•HTH: "hope that helps"
•HPT: home pregnancy test; a urine pregnancy test you can take at home
•IMHO: "in my humble opinion"
•IMO: "in my opinion"
•IUI: intra-uterine insemination
•IVF: in vitro fertilization
•KU: knocked up
•LH: leutenizing hormone; the LH surge is what is measured by the OPKs; this hormone signals the egg to burst from the ovary
•LP: luteal phase; the phase of your cycle that begins just after ovulation and continues for 10-18 days, ending with the start of your next period; during the LP, your body continues to build up the lining of your uterus, and produce hormones which would support a pregnancy; this is the time when a fertilized egg can implant into the uterine lining
•NFP: Natural Family Planning; similar to FAM, but with abstinence during the fertile period
•O, Oing, Oed: ovulation, ovulating, or ovulated
•OPK: ovulation predictor kit; tests for presence of LH surge that usually precedes ovulation by 12-48 hours; these tests are quite expensive and not always accurate (if you take medication or depending on your age); these are optional when charting with FF, but if your fertility data is not clear it can bring more light and help interpret difficult cases
•OS: Ovusoft; charting software based on TCOYF
•PCOS: polycystic ovarian syndrome (a fertility problem)
•PG: pregnant
•PIAC: pee in a cup
•POAS: pee on a stick
•RE: reproductive endocrinologist
•SA: semen analysis
•SH: "sweet husband"
•SO: "significant other"
•SYS, SYL : See ya soon! or See ya later!
•TCOYF: Taking Charge Of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler; a book and website about charting and fertility.
•TMI: "too much information" - There is no such thing when TTC!
•TTA: "trying to avoid"
•TTC: "trying to conceive"
•TTFN: "ta-ta for now"
•TTYL, TTYS: "talk to you later" or "talk to you soon"

Charting is Knowledge
07-13-2005, 12:28 PM
Resources borrowed from Still At It:

Abbreviations and acronyms
List of TTC & IF acronyms written out (http://womens-place.com/ttc/ttcacronyms.php)

HPT Sensitivity Comparison Charts
Fertility Plus (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hpt.html)
Pee On A Stick (http://www.peeonastick.com/hpts.html)
Mama's Ark (http://www.mamasark.com/hpt.htm)
Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com/pregnancy-test-sensitivity.html)
Remember, the hCG starts at 1 at implantation and increases as time goes on, so the smaller amount of hCG it measures, the more sensitive the test is!

Books
Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler, MPH (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060937645/qid=1041654042/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

The Fertility Sourcebook by M. Sara Rosenthal, PHD (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0737303808/qid=1042220393/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)

Inconceivable by Ben Elton (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385334656/qid=1041659461/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)
The movie "Maybe Baby" (below) is based on this book

Inconceivable: A Woman's Triumph Over Despair and Statistics
by Julia Indichova (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0767908201/qid=1059292613/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

The Infertility Diet: Get Pregnant & Prevent Miscarriage by Fern Reiss (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1893290395/qid=1059292976/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

Conquering Infertility: Dr. Domar's Mind/Body Guide to Enhancing
Fertility & Coping with Infertility by Alice Domar, Phd (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0670031550/qid=1059293116/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/103-2812959-1358247)


Girlfriend to Girlfriend: A Fertility Companion by Kristen Magnacca (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1588202135/qid=1082306449/sr=8-2/ref=pd_ka_2/104-9895052-8814318?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

Movies
Maybe Baby (2001) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000062XKW/qid=1041654127/sr=8-4/ref=sr_8_4/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=video&n=507846)

She's Having A Baby (1988) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6300988996/qid%3D1041654195/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-0287896-1655948)

Websites (by subject)

Charting
Ovusoft aka TCOYF (http://www.ovusoft.com/)
The site for Toni Weschler's book which includes message boards, chat and cycle galleries which are very helpful.

Fertility Friend (www.fertilityfriend.com)
A free charting site which includes a lot of information and cycle galleries.

Local Support
RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/chapters/resolvenearyou.jsp?name=chapters)
Nation-wide referrals to local support groups and therapists.

The American Infertility Association (http://www.americaninfertility.org)
Lots of information and support, including message boards and chat rooms.

Financial Concerns
ARC: Advanced Reproductive Care (http://www.arcfertility.com/)
information on financing infertility treatments

Family Fee Plan (http://www.amerifee.com/fertility-financing/index.asp)
information on financing infertility treatments

State Insurance Requirements (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/advocacy/insurance/index.jsp?name=advocacy&tag=insurance)
Links from the Resolve site about insurance & laws.

Inciid's Insurance pages (http://www.inciid.org/index.php)
Click through menu on right for more financial topics and the insurance forum.

General TTC
Trying To Conceive.com (http://www.tryingtoconceive.com/)
All things TTC! Lots of info as well as a place to buy herbal therapies for
conceiving.

Baby Med (http://www.babymed.com/)
Tons of information. Everything from Chinese gender charts to an FAQ section on pretty much any TTC question you could have.

Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com)
Baby makin' supplies!

OBGYN.net (http://www.obgyn.net/)
Lots of general info on women's health. They also have doctors on line who
answer questions.

Infertility Sites
INCIID (http://www.inciid.org/)
Pronounced "inside". (The International Council on Infertility Information Dissemination)
Excellent national resource.

Resolve (http://www.resolve.org)
Wonderful site with lots of infertility information and support.

I dream of baby (http://www.idreamofbaby.com/fertility.php)
Learn the basics of fertility issues here. This site also has a great message
board community!

Fertility Plus.org’s list of female hormone levels (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hormonelevels.html#female)
Starting your fertility work-up? Check out this site to see a list of the
commonly tested female hormone levels, the function of each hormone, and the normal levels of each hormone.

Shared Journey (http://www.sharedjourney.com)
Shared Journey is dedicated to providing quality information on topics such as
infertility, miscarriage, surrogacy, pregnancy after infertility, living
child-free, and adoption. Our information is supplied by well noted Reproductive
Endocrinologist's, Psychologists, Adoption professionals and links through
various sites.

FertileHeart (http://www.fertileheart.com)
A community of people exploring holistic approaches to fertility. A site by
author Julia Indichova (see books above)

Specific IF Issues
Soul Cysters (http://www.soulcysters.com)
PCOS site with lots of support and info

Dr. Beer (http://www.repro-med.net)
Reproductive Immunology information, including lists of tests, pricing, local referrals

Reproductive Immunology Support (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/immunologysupport/)
Yahoo group for RI patients, tons of info and articles

Info for Family and Friends
Empty Arms (http://www.vocalicious.com/empty_arms/empty_arms_mod.html)
This is a great video so they can understand what you're going through. (And get out your kleenex!)

Charting is Knowledge
07-13-2005, 12:32 PM
Post away!

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jodylovesscotty
07-13-2005, 12:34 PM
First a HUGE congrats to Red!

Other than that just checkin in :)

MMHinCA
07-13-2005, 12:38 PM
Subscribing! :)

Baby Lust
07-13-2005, 12:40 PM
Thanks Fly for closing out the other thread and directing everyone over! You are on top of things! :D


Ok everybody... let's keep it going!

UTChick
07-13-2005, 12:41 PM
Wow!! It's amazing what I missed by not being online this morning!

Huge congrats to Shannon and Red!! Shannon~ I think it is great that your little road trip turned into a BFP. That will be a great and funny memory to share with your DH.

Thanks to our highly efficient threadmistress for getting us a new thread started!

aprilshowers
07-13-2005, 12:42 PM
OMG, RED I AM SO HAPPY FOR YOU!!!! Congratulations! I haven't been able to get to the computer much lately so haven't been keeping up with this thread but something just made me check it. Must have been all those sticky vibes flowing through cyberspace for you!!!

Congratulations to Shannon as well! You have a great story to share with your kids some day!

H&H 9 months to both of you!!

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*babydust~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* for the rest of you!

Charting is Knowledge
07-13-2005, 12:46 PM
Would everyone please make sure that you are in the right section (testing group, etc) and if not, please post an update in red! :D Thanks!

flygirl
07-13-2005, 12:54 PM
Thanks Fly for closing out the other thread and directing everyone over! You are on top of things! :D!
Pure coincidence :cool:

Baby Lust
07-13-2005, 12:57 PM
I wonder about you sometimes! :p J/K!

ShannonGH
07-13-2005, 01:08 PM
Oh heck, I don't know why I'm waiting...I'll go ahead and make it official! :D I just added my "+" to FF. Dh doesn't know yet! I'm going to try to hold out till Friday evening to tell him. His bday is Sunday and I'm going to send him on a treasure hunt to find his presents, the last one being (hopefully) an ultrasound pic of our little dot. My best friend is an ultrasound tech so I'm going in either tomorrow or Friday to have a transvag. I can't wait! (never thought I'd say I can't wait for a transvag :rolleyes: )

Congrats to you too Red! I started in this thread about the time you left. I know you are very well-loved here. I am so very happy for you and your Dh. Happy & Healthy 9 months to you!!!

jeeplover
07-13-2005, 01:18 PM
Red Congrats to you! I am so happy for you and a happy and healthy 9 months!

Shannon-Congrats! What a cute way to tell DH!

dionysia
07-13-2005, 01:19 PM
<delurk>

Congratulations, Red_Canuck & Shannon!!!

Di

marteneym
07-13-2005, 01:28 PM
Subscribing!
BTW, threadmistresses, I am loving all the cute pics you start our threads with. SO sweet!

amurphy
07-13-2005, 01:29 PM
Congratulations to the new Moms!

I attempted to join this thread a few weeks ago (just shortly after my chemical PG and while waiting for AF). I thought I would try again now that AF has come and gone, my HCG level has been checked, and I've gotten the go ahead from my doc to TTC again. AF arrived on CD 28 and I'm currently on CD8 w/ EWCM.


Me: murphy/30
DH: 33
Married since: 8/2002
Off BCP since: 4/2005
TTC since: 4/2005
Charting since: 6/2005
Known issues/test results:chemical pregnancy in June
Current status: Waiting to O

Charting is Knowledge
07-13-2005, 01:36 PM
Updated to here!

Welcome amurphy! I'm so sorry you had a CP... I hope your stay here is short and sweet! If you would like your chart linked here, feel free to post it and I will add it to your stats!

jules1025
07-13-2005, 01:40 PM
I was a part of the other group for a while (as JulesWed1025)... wanted to delurk to say...

HUGE CONGRATS TO RED!!!! :D

aligirl
07-13-2005, 01:43 PM
Congrats to Red!!!! :D :D


Congrats to Shannon!!!! :D :D

Guinness
07-13-2005, 01:48 PM
Congrats to RED and Shannon!! Shannon I knew that day 10DPO looked good ;)

Come spread the baby dust ---- OFTEN :D

Subscribing. . .

Kopper
07-13-2005, 02:06 PM
Huge congrats to Red and Shannon!! :)

I'm still waiting to O hopefully any day now.

Threadmistress, here is my update:
Known issues/test results: CD3 blood work: normal; HSG: All clear; SA: Low morphology

Thanks!!

ETA... Is it possible to have the members list left aligned? I have a hard time reading a lot of centered text. If it's too much work or no one else is having a hard time, then don't worry about it. :) Thanks!

Charting is Knowledge
07-13-2005, 02:12 PM
Updated to here!

Kopper, No problem at all! I'm with ya.. :)

red_canuck
07-13-2005, 02:58 PM
awww, you ladies rock :) I always have had a soft spot in my heart for the ttc/wcharting women. you guys truly make a girl feels special!!! I hope you all follow me soon. and now, I've waited 2 years to do this...

*~*~*~*~*Baby Dust*~*~*~*~*

Baby Lust
07-13-2005, 03:56 PM
Excuse me ladies, while I roll around in Red's fresh, potent baby dust! :D

spencer's_girl
07-13-2005, 04:00 PM
CONGRATS TO RED :D AND TO SHANNON
Red i was in the wc charting thread as munchkinmrj when you were threadmistress and i am so happy for you lots of sticky vibes to you both and a happy and healthy 9 months

MrsCantDecide
07-13-2005, 04:03 PM
Excuse me ladies, while I roll around in Red's fresh, potent baby dust!

ME TOO!!! :D :D

Huge major congrats to both Red & Shannon! H & H 9 months to you both!

katmg
07-13-2005, 04:38 PM
Yay! So happy for you Red! I joined here just as you were leaving, but I had popped in a couple times with charting questions before that. H & H 9 months!

Also, yay for a new thread!!

Shannon - that's pretty awesome that you'll probably be able to get an ultrasound pic. so quickly!

kmmommy
07-13-2005, 04:54 PM
Congrats to Shannon and Red! Wishing you both a H&H 9 months!

I'm on CD 23 and had another high temp today. Just waiting still.

DallasLady
07-13-2005, 05:58 PM
BIG HUGE CONGRATS TO RED!!! I AM SOOO HAPPY FOR YOU!! :D :D :D

Ericka_Jarett
07-13-2005, 06:35 PM
Was checking threads and noticed that their were grads in here now. Wanted to say Congrats to Red and Shannon.

I am on CD 2, can someone check my chart and see if there was even a chance last cycle?

CTs_Punkin
07-13-2005, 07:44 PM
Just wanted to pop in. Looks like last cycle was annov. AF is in the HOUSE... CD70 no less.... Hoping that I O right after we move into our house :) Wouldn't that be a great present??? Anyhow, just glad the cycle is over.... even if it's AF and not a BFP.

Congrats to Red, Shannon & Heidi!!!

MMT

mayham
07-13-2005, 08:23 PM
CONGRATS, Red Canuck & Shannon!!!

crazycaro
07-13-2005, 08:35 PM
Congratulations Shannon!!!

And woohoo Red!!! I can't stop smiling for you. :)

Not sure what is going on here, temp dropped, when I was thinking it would rise. I am pretty darn sure I have o'ed in the last day or two (+ OPK, EWCM) - who knows.

QOTD: I always wanted a girl, and got one with our first baby. I am not really fussed what our next kid will be, although a part of me does just love little girls so. :) They are so much fun to dress! :D

Belated hi back at you to Lizard my fellow 20/9/03 bride!!! :)

Mystikal
07-13-2005, 09:25 PM
CONGRATS SHANNON AND RED!!!!!!
:D
Red can I just say that after talking to you tonight my face hurt because I couldn't stop smiling? You know how thrilled I am for you, girl!! :D

silentbunny
07-13-2005, 09:25 PM
Wow! This thread really gets to you doesn't it? I am sitting here beaming at the screen. I never before imagined what a journey it could be, and to see poeple graduate is just so powerful!

Shannon - Congratulations!! Yup, looks like a line -- good story! How on EARTH are you going to manage to keep from telling your DH until this weekend???

Red -- BIG congratulations to you! I don't *know* you, but I have seen you around WC for the lat few years, even though I didn't jump on the TTC bandwagon until a few months ago. I wish you a very happy and healthy 9 months!

I saw a co-worker in the grocery store today who is due in a few weeks. She is absolutely glowing (not least due to her sunburn -- she's another redhead) and I just felt so happy and achey at the same time...I want a big round belly too.

Talked to my doctor again today and I officially have "mild PCOS". I began Metformin today, 500 mg a day, and will increase in a week. After a few months, if no baby, I will look to Clomid.

From what she said, Metformin shouldn't affect OPKs. I hope not, because with my crazy-long cycles, I need a clue... Hopefully these cycles will shorten soon!

babylove
07-14-2005, 03:50 AM
Congratulations to Shannon & Red!!!! H&H 9 mo to you both!!

***
I'm in "WTF" mode, myself....today is 10 DPO and I woke up this morning to post-O temps, but also spotting!!! I have to use pads at night b/c of the progesterone suppositories and when I woke up this morning, there was (sorry, TMI) definite red spotting on the pad....I'm so upset! It wasn't on the TP at first, only after I did a CP check (still low, firm and closed). FRER was BFN this morning. Progesterone is supposed to make my LP longer (it was 16 days last month!) and if I get AF today, it will only be a 9 day LP, which is no better than when I started. :( I could seriously cry right now....
My temp is still high this morning...does anyone think this could be implantation spotting or is that wishful thinking?

Guinness
07-14-2005, 04:06 AM
Babylove Hang in there. I think it could definitely be implantation spotting. Everything I have read (and I have googled it daily ;) ) says implantation typically happens DPO 8-10 and you are right in there. Don't give up yet!

mrst2b2003
07-14-2005, 04:25 AM
just hanging out in the boring part of the cycle....


HUGE congrats to RED and SHANNON!!!!!

So happy for you both


Shannon I hope your traveling BD works for me too. I will be away for work when I O so DH will be driving 3 hours to see me too!!! Hope it's worth it ;)


RED- I know you left our group a couple of months ago. I was just wondering what you did different to finally get your BFP? Did you stop charting and taking OPKs all together?thanks for the insight. It's always great to know what worked for others.

Amy

Hoping to see a bunch of BFP soon out of this group, so we can close it down.

heidi0622
07-14-2005, 05:27 AM
Ok, I'm really nervous to be doing this especially since I have not gone to the drs. to see if my numbers are doubling. I did go the drs. yesterday and my numbers were good for 14DPO and my HPT was much darker today, so I am feeling as good as I can for now.

After 17 months of TTCing, 50mg of Clomid did the trick, I am announcing my BFP!!!.

I had a m/c last October and am terrified of having to come back here as much as you ladies have been a wonderful source of support. I decided though that I need to soak up the moment for now. Everything is as good as it can be for now.

Thanks for your support!

flygirl
07-14-2005, 05:32 AM
Good Lord!!! CONGRATS, HEIDI!!!
This is quite a month!!

jeeplover
07-14-2005, 05:39 AM
CONGRATS HEIDI! HAPPY AND HEALTHY 9 MONTHS TO YOU!!!!!!!!!!

Guinness
07-14-2005, 05:42 AM
Congrats Heidi!!! I wish you all the enjoyment of a H&H pregnancy. Come visit and spread BABY DUST often :)

amurphy
07-14-2005, 05:43 AM
Wow! So much good news in this thread! Congratulations, Heidi!

CD9 and my temp took a .3 degree dive this morning. With all the EWCM I had the last two days, I'm wondering if the drop is a pre-o temp drop. Or it might be that I had to temp 40 minutes earlier than normal. :rolleyes: My DH was at a work function until midnight and he called around 11 to say that I should go to bed since I had to wake up this morning. But I told him that he had work to do when he got home! I'm covering all our bases this month.

Baby Lust
07-14-2005, 05:46 AM
Oh Heidi! I was just bursting at the seams waiting for you to announce!! Official congrats!!! So happy for you!!! :D I'll go graduate you now! :D Major sticky vibes to you! This is the one!! :cool:

dlj78
07-14-2005, 05:49 AM
Congratulations Heidi!!!!! H&H 9 months!


For me, I entered this morning's temp and the s/w gave me a coverline of 98.5!!! :eek: What the heck?! I know that I had a 2 high temps when AF was here but that is a high CL. :confused:

Charting is Knowledge
07-14-2005, 05:50 AM
Updated to here! :D

Baby Lust
07-14-2005, 05:52 AM
For me, I entered this morning's temp and the s/w gave me a coverline of 98.5!!! :eek: What the heck?! I know that I had a 2 high temps when AF was here but that is a high CL. :confused:

Don't worry! The "CL" adjusts daily. Mine always starts out high, and comes down from there. :)

gmb4503
07-14-2005, 06:00 AM
Congrats to all the BFP's :D :D

katmg
07-14-2005, 06:38 AM
Congratulations Heidi! This is turning out to be an awesome month! :D

aligirl
07-14-2005, 06:39 AM
Congrats, Heidi!!!! :D :D

MrsCantDecide
07-14-2005, 06:41 AM
Congrats Heidi!!!! Glad the HPT was darker for you this morning. :D

jodylovesscotty
07-14-2005, 06:54 AM
Congrats Heidi!! Hoping for a healthy and happy 9 months for you!

Wow, all these BFP's, hopefully they will all come back and sprinkle major baby dust for all of us! I know I need it.

LittleStar
07-14-2005, 06:56 AM
Congratulations Heidi!!!

Kopper
07-14-2005, 06:57 AM
Congrats Heidi!!

red_canuck
07-14-2005, 07:47 AM
Amy - RED- I know you left our group a couple of months ago. I was just wondering what you did different to finally get your BFP? Did you stop charting and taking OPKs all together?thanks for the insight. It's always great to know what worked for others.Amy

I hate to admit it, but I was doing nothing. No charting, no checking CM, no recording anything, even BD-ing, and I was doing everythign wrong - going to the bathroom after BD-ing, not elevating my hips, heck, i think we conceived doggie style! I wasn't taking any pre-ntals or vitamins...nothing. I was even drinking! When I left the thread in May, I literally took my mind of TTC-ing by pretending we weren't, and just enjoying life. I think the major thing that contributed was that in May I started exercising daily, and really concentrating on eating well. so yeah - as a former obsessive charter I'm almost embarrassed to admit I was doing none of it when I finally got knocked up!

Thank you so much for all the congrats!!!. You ladies have always rocke dmy world, and continue to do so :D

Congratulations again Heidi!! I couldn't be happier for you!!!

mrst2b2003
07-14-2005, 07:58 AM
RED- thanks for the insight:) I thought that was the case. I think after this month I am going to put all of the obssessive tools away and see what happens too. It can't hurt

UTChick
07-14-2005, 08:08 AM
Congratulations Heidi!!!

July has been a good month for our group so far. Hopefully August will bring even more! (yes, I am already thinking about August) :rolleyes:

t3h_wookiee
07-14-2005, 08:36 AM
Whoops, I fell behind as cheerleader here didn't I? Sorry guys, life got really busy (we're moving this weekend!).


HUGE congrats to Heidi and Amanda!! :D :D :D I'm still so very very excited for both of you! Congrats to Shannon too!

Baby Lust
07-14-2005, 08:37 AM
Hi Jess! *waving*

gymwidow
07-14-2005, 09:00 AM
Hi ladies! I've been lurking around this thread for a couple of weeks now and have decided to just jump in and join. Here's my info:

Me: Melissa/28
DH: Alan/29
Married since: June '03
Off BCP since: Feb. '05
TTC since: June '05
Charting since: Feb. '05
Known issues/test results: none known
Chart: working on it...I'll post it soon!
Current status: waiting to O

Let's see. A little bit of background = I was on BCP for a looooong time. Can't really remember much about my cycles from before then, but I do remember that AF was very long and heavy and full of cramps. My first cycle off BCP was 53 days and definitely annovulatory. After that, my next few cycles were short (22-25 days) with very short LPs (4-6 days) and light AF. I think I O'd in two of them, but had one with temps all over the place and no clear O. My last cycle had a very heavy AF (much like pre-BCP) and was 30 days. I didn't chart throughout the whole cycle, I decided to take a couple of weeks off from temping, but DH and I did BD a few times when I thought I might be O'ing. So I'm not sure if I O'd or how long my LP was, but I was definitely glad to see a longer cycle. I'm on CD5 today, having another long and heavy AF, and so ready to get to the BD'ing stage of this cycle! I'm charting again so I can keep track of things. I'll post a link soon for my charts.

The only thing that I'm still concerned about is how much mid-cycle spotting I've had. I've only had one cycle w/o any spotting. I'm hoping that I was just one of those women whose bodies takes a long time to regulate after BCP and that this cycle will be more normal. Do any of you have midcycle spotting regularly? Was it ever a concern?

What else? I'm glad to be joining this lovely group of women and I wish everyone lots of luck this month. With all these BFP's hopefully there will be more graduates soon!!!!

t3h_wookiee
07-14-2005, 09:02 AM
Hi Jess! *waving*
Hi Amanda! :)

Charting is Knowledge
07-14-2005, 09:14 AM
Updated to here!

Welcome Gym! I hope your stay is short and sweet! I will post your chart as soon as I get a link! :)

ShannonGH
07-14-2005, 09:26 AM
Shannon I hope your traveling BD works for me too. I will be away for work when I O so DH will be driving 3 hours to see me too!!! Hope it's worth it ;)
I hope it's worth it too Amy! Good for your Dh for coming all that way to Bd! Good luck!!!

Congrats to Heidi!!!! Yay for another BFP!!!!!

Well I took another FRER test with my FMU this morning and the darn thing gave me the *ever* faintest of lines just like it did yesterday. It's so faint I question whether it's really there. So then I save up my pee for 4.5 hours :eek: and peed on another Equate 10 min ago and it gives me a line plain as day! So yay for Equates!!!!!

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~BabyDust*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

jodylovesscotty
07-14-2005, 09:41 AM
Just rolling around in Shannon's Baby Dust!!!!!

Mindy3094
07-14-2005, 09:53 AM
Congratulations to red and heidi!!

I am so excited for you two, I am jumping up and down! (Luckily, I am the only one here so no one thinks I am off my rocker!)

This is SO SO SO awesome!

aprilshowers
07-14-2005, 10:07 AM
heck, i think we conceived doggie style!
That's what did it, red! I speak from experience ;)

And heidi!!!!! Congratulations! I have to admit I was stalking your chart yesterday and thinking it looked extremely promising but didn't want to say anything bcs I knew you'd be nervous. If you ever want to chat, feel free to email or PM me. There is a group over on the "other" site for Pregnant After a Loss but it hasn't gotten much action (other than myself!) for a while. Not sure if anyone's planning on starting one up over here. But, anyway, congratulations! I will be thinking very sticky thoughts for you!

*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*babydust*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* for everyone else! Hope to see you over on the other side soon!

flygirl
07-14-2005, 10:16 AM
Just rolling around in Shannon's Baby Dust!!!!!
I'll be careful not to bump into you :).

I'm tired of watching my symptoms so damn carefully! I give up!!! As I've said before, my temps this cycle are all screwed up and make no sense whatsoever. So it really doesn't mean anything.

I went through my previous cycles to look for patterns, and I'm thinking I O'd CD16, or even CD20 instead of CD15. I've recreated this cycle (using a month in 03, before I started charting) based on O'ing CD20, and either could be it.

My homepage currently shows symptom notes from CD15, all of my charts, and the pretend chart at the bottom. If anyone has some extra time, I'd appreciate it if you gave it a glance to let me know what you think.

Welcome, gym!

Go Amy!

DallasLady
07-14-2005, 11:03 AM
Wow, the BFPs are rolling in :D

Congrats to Shannon & Heidi! Sending major sticky vibes your way!

Shannon, I suppose the little road trip last month will indeed make a good story, huh ;)

Mystikal
07-14-2005, 01:36 PM
I'm loving all the BFP's!!
Heidi I'm so glad you announced it! Whee!! :D
babylove your spotting could definitely be implantation.
Welcome gymwidow! I hope your stay is short and sweet.
Hi jess!!! *waves*

My temps have been all kinds of wacky just like the beginning of my last cycle. I had a huge jump this morning to 97.7 but since I'm only on CD6 I know I didn't O. I'm thinking it might have had something to do with my sunburn? Maybe??

heidi0622
07-14-2005, 01:51 PM
Wow! I am truly touched by all of your positive thoughts.

Thank you flygirl, hbeshore, guinness, amurphy, baby_lust, dlj78, gmb4503, katmg, mcd, jls, littlestar, kopper, red, utchick, t3h_wookie, shannongh, dallas_lady and mystikal for all of your congrats! I appreciate it so much.

Thank you too to aligirl, mindy3094 and aprilshowers for coming back in here with your congrats as well!

Here it is, some fresh...

~*~BABY DUST~*~

t3h_wookiee
07-14-2005, 02:13 PM
*waves* Hi Rachel! :D

Baby Lust
07-14-2005, 02:16 PM
*quietly scooping Heidi's baby dust*

babylove
07-14-2005, 02:37 PM
CONGRATS HEIDI!!! H&H 9 mo to you!!!! Thanks for the baby dust :)

*~*~*~*~*~ STICK BABY VIBES (right back at 'ya *~*~*~* *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

***

Thanks to Guinness & Mystikal for responding to my desperate cries for help this morning!! ;)

Update: The spotting continues, but just barely....I wore a pantyliner today and there was some very very slight pale pink spotting on it, though none really on the TP. It was all accompanied by strange cramping this morning, that has mostly subsided. Let me just say that I have *never* in my life had break-through bleeding or spotting like this prior to AF. Ever. That makes me hopeful that it is implantation spotting. Only time will tell!

Baby Lust
07-14-2005, 02:42 PM
Fingers are crossed for you BLove! Sounds promising! :)

flygirl
07-14-2005, 02:54 PM
babylove, that sounds so exciting!!!

Baby Lust
07-14-2005, 10:07 PM
Good luck to any testers tomorrow! Let's go BFPs! :D

crazycaro
07-14-2005, 11:33 PM
babylove, don't give up yet! Could definitely be implantation spotting. I can't see your LP being so short given you are on supps. The cramping is a good sign IMO!

Congratulations Heidi!!! Gosh, you guys tried for so long, I am so happy for you! Celebrate this weekend!

Welcome Melissa!

I hope August continues the BFP's, I would *love* one for for my birthday (9 August), and would be happy for that to be my only present! And when I blow out candles on my cake it will not just be for me, but everyone here.

No coverline for me yet, am on CD19. Last cycle was 26 days so I am starting to worry. I was reskimming TCOYF last night and am wondering if I might have odd post-o temps like she talked about. Grasping at straws, moi - never!!!

Anyone ever get + OPK's but not O? Is that possible? I had a blazing + OPK on CD16, with EWCM too boot. My temps are being so stupid though.

Have a good weekend all! Friday is nearly over here, hubby will be home from work soon!

babylove
07-15-2005, 03:07 AM
Thanks, BabyLust, Flygirl & Crazycaro!

I'm a little disheartened b/c my temp went down this morning to just above the CL. I won't put too much stock in it b/c I had to wake up early for work, so it's not that reliable. But....got a BFN this morning. Not even a faint line :( No spotting this morning, so hopefully AF is not on her way.

kmmommy
07-15-2005, 04:56 AM
Sorry to hear that babylove. Keeping my fingers crossed that AF stays away and you get your BFP!!

katmg
07-15-2005, 05:26 AM
Babylove - sorry about the BFN. But, if you just implanted it may be too early to get your BFP.

As for me, still have the same temp. for like 6 days now, 97.5. My temp has never done that before. It's just bizarre. Hopefully I'll either definitely O soon or my temp will do something to let me know what my body is doing! Does the temp staying exactly the same for so long seem odd to anyone else?

mayham
07-15-2005, 06:10 AM
katmg - this cycle, i had the same temp 3 days in a row, and then my temps shifted the next day. Not sure if this means anything, though, I haven't been charting for very long! 6 days in a row is kind of odd, hopefully your temp will jump soon!

babylove - sorry about the bfn. I'm hoping the spotting you had was implantation and a sign of good things to come.

crazycaro - hope you get a bfp for your birthday! My mom's bday is end of this month, and DH's is a couple days later. I'll be testing at the end of next week if AF doesn't come. It would be such an amazing birthday present to give... crossing fingers for both of us!

Melissa - welcome!

Heidi - CONGRATULATIONS on your BFP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My temps are still above CL, but seem to be making a slow decline... i was kind of bummed this morning, since it dropped a tenth of a degree, but I also had to get up and turn off the alarm, so I'm guessing it may have been lower if i hadn't had to get up and move around.

Baby Lust
07-15-2005, 06:23 AM
Morning ladies! Temp went back up this morning, so I am expecting it to remain on the rise... I will be testing Monday!

BLove, Sorry about the BFN, but if the spotting was implantation, it is entirely too early for a +. Don't lose hope!

Kat, It is a little unusual to have 6 flat temps pre-O. Have you taken your temp at another time of the day to make sure it's not your therm? If it's not, just patiently wait for a temp rise! :p

Mayham, Sorry about the temp drop. Hopefully AF is not on the way. {{HUGS}}

katmg
07-15-2005, 06:38 AM
babylust - I checked my thermometer yesterday after my shower and it had raised .3 degrees. If I count the one day I missed taking my temp. I'd have 8 days at 97.5. :rolleyes: Bah!

mayham - seemed odd to me. Hopefully something will happen soon!

Mystikal
07-15-2005, 06:47 AM
babylove if yesterday was implantation spotting then today is definitely too early for a BFP. Give it another couple days. (Easier said than done, right?) I have all crossables crossed for you!

MrsCantDecide
07-15-2005, 07:22 AM
I hope we get some more BFPs over the weekend! I unfortunately will not be one of them. I'm spotting pretty heavy this morning, so I'm expecting my body to be stupid as normal.

Welcome to our new members ~ I hope your stay here is short and sweet.

Amanda ~ You're doing such a wonderful job as threadmistress! :D Thanks for everything!

Hope everyone has a great weekend!

Baby Lust
07-15-2005, 07:57 AM
MCD, I'm so sorry you are spotting again! :( I guess on to the testing! I hope the results are good, but I also hope they come up with a solution for you! How frustrating to not know why it is not happening! :mad: Good luck! {{{HUGS}}}

mayham
07-15-2005, 08:29 AM
Hi, Baby Lust - thanks for the hugs :)

MrsCantDecide - sorry about the spotting... I hope this doesn't mean you're out yet this cycle.

jodylovesscotty
07-15-2005, 08:31 AM
MCD~ Sorry about your spotting. I hope you find the answers you are looking for.

Babylove~ Keeping everything crossed for you :)

Crazy~ Good question, although I can't answer it.


Well this is our BD fest weekend. Although I feel like we have had more sex this month than we have in the last 2 years. For some reason DH is really into it this month. He was actually kinda funny last night (I am sure this is TMI, but I know you will get a kick out of it). After BD he got up and got a towel for me to wipe up leakage with. I put it under my butt area and he said "there you go, rising your hips to make the spermies get down the long canal". I tried to explain to him I was just cleaning up, but he doesn't believe me. I told him this weekend I won't just have a towel under me, I will have my legs right in the air :)

Him and his buddies are going downtown tomorrow night and they all want to get a hotel room. I told him absolutly not!!! We only live 7 miles from downtown. I told him I would come and pick him up no matter what time it is. Am I desperate or what?

Hope everyone has a great weekend and we come back to more blazin' BFPs!

marteneym
07-15-2005, 02:14 PM
Heidi- Congrats! Sticky Baby Vibes!

MMT- Sorry af found you. I hope your next cycle is shorter.

Amurphy and gymwidow- Welcome!

Babylove- Sorry about the BFN! I hope AF stays away.

Babylust- That is an awfully nice implant dip yesterday. ;)

Jody- Get thy husband home. Hotel? What was he thinking? Doesn't he know there is baby making to be done? Good luck! :D

Cd 4 for me. Fertility Blend came last night. I have started it and am hoping for an earlier O.

babylove
07-15-2005, 02:37 PM
Thanks for the sympathy girls....I'm not holding out much hope. I wasn't spotting at all today, until just now. All of a sudden, it started again, and I'm afraid it might be AF. I had a bout of "D" this afternoon, which is usually a sure sign that the b1tch is on her way. It would also substantiate the temp drop that I had this morning. :(

Just remembered...I have a question about CP....what is the normal CP when AF is approaching--low, firm and closed OR high soft and open? I'm confused...

jeeplover
07-15-2005, 07:00 PM
Well my temps have remained high since O'ing which is unusual for me. Also the strangest thing happened to me tonight I had the worst heartburn when I ate dinner. We ate BBQ and I had ribs and the green beans I got were so spicy, foods don't normally bother me at all whether they be spicy and I never get heartburn. Should I read anything into this?

Also tonight DH was asking me about my temps and I told him they have remained high that brought a huge smile to his face and he says so that means we might have made a baby?!?!?!

Guinness
07-15-2005, 07:10 PM
hbeshore Sounds positive to me!! I am with you analyzing everything - smells, heartburn, fatigue, twinges . . .I guess only time will tell if they are FPS or RPS ;)

Baby Love Sorry to hear about your temp drop and more spotting

MCD Sorry to hear your news as well. As with the others I hope you find answers. Stay positive!

Jodylovesscotty Have a fun and productive weekend :D

For anyone I missed, hope O comes soon, AF stays aways, and/or FPS don't take over your weekend. I want to see some more BFPs!!

red_canuck
07-15-2005, 07:48 PM
Just dropping off some
*~*~*~Baby Dust!~*~*~*

Guinness
07-15-2005, 08:36 PM
*~*~*~*~*ROLLIN' AROUND*~*~*~*~*~*
http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/linie/smiley-linie-019.gif

Charting is Knowledge
07-15-2005, 09:44 PM
Updated to here!

Flygirl, Do you want to be moved to another testing group, or are you planning on testing Saturday morning?

flygirl
07-15-2005, 10:30 PM
Hee hee; I'm so glad to see I'm not the only symptom-obsessor :D:D

My first test yesterday (Friday) had the faintest of shadows (Equate). I immediately tested with CBE digital & it was a BFN. I spent hours analyzing my symptoms and my chart & finally decided this was too much. When it comes down to it, either I am or I'm not & wasting time analyzing like that won't change it. Every time I feel a twinge of something different I remind myself that since I haven't tracked my PMS symptoms in awhile, any one of the ones I've felt could easily be FPS.

Tomorrow is 12 DPO, my normal LP, so AF is expected on Sunday. I decided yesterday that I wouldn't test again until Monday, but I think that's flown out the window & I'm testing tomorrow (Sat morning).

My boobies started aching last night and today they have been PAINFUL!!!!!!!!! And they've only gotten worse throughout the day. I also feel tightness in my lower pelvic region. BB pain is the one PS I've been looking for, because it used to be a sizeable PMS for me while I was on the Pill. Since I've been off I've only had slight tenderness after O & again right before AF. In the back of my head I've been holding on to the idea that if I get really painful bb's, it could be a RPS. So...I'm testing tomorrow :D.

It's way too late here (I'm trying to get ready for a trip tomorrow...I mean today), so SO's later! General good luck to everyone!

kmmommy
07-16-2005, 06:40 AM
Good luck today flygirl! Keeping my fingers crossed!

Charting is Knowledge
07-16-2005, 06:49 AM
Updated to here!

babylove
07-16-2005, 07:25 AM
It's Saturday morning, flygirl....did you test?!?!?

***

12 DPO and still no AF. Had some spotting again last night, but it stopped and this morning there was nothing. Good news is that my temp went UP today...yay! But I still got a BFN.....*fingers crossed*

Good luck to any other testers out there!!!

LittleStar
07-16-2005, 07:47 AM
Just spending my early morning chart-stalking! :D

My temp went up a little this morning, but I just have this feeling AF's on her way so if she's coming, I wish she'd hurry it up!

Good luck to everyone testing - I'm looking forward to some good news this weekend!!!

Guinness
07-16-2005, 07:52 AM
Charts are looking good ladies. There should be lots of testing activity this week. Everything is crossed for POSITIVE news :D

kmmommy
07-16-2005, 08:22 AM
I'm on CD 26 and still no O detected. FF says based on temps I probably O'd between CD 11-23. Any guesses? I'm totally confused.

Mystikal
07-16-2005, 09:20 AM
Babylove yay for your temp jump! I hope AF stays away!!
flygirl did you test? I have all crossables crossed for you!!

Nothing exciting on my end. Still waiting to O. Ho-hum.

jeeplover
07-16-2005, 10:48 AM
Paging FLYGIRL!!!

We are all waiting on pins and needles to see if you tested.......

Baby Lust
07-16-2005, 01:14 PM
Kaeden, I would say that you O'd on CD20. BUT... your CM is really throwing me off!! But considering your temps, I would stick with CD20. Ugh! Crazy chart!

Flygirl, Typically when someone doesn't update their chart at 12DPO with a temp or a test result, they are hiding something from us. You wouldn't do that to us, would you? Hmmm????

silentbunny
07-16-2005, 01:31 PM
12 DPO and still no AF. Had some spotting again last night, but it stopped and this morning there was nothing. Good news is that my temp went UP today...yay! But I still got a BFN.....*fingers crossed*

Ooh...hoping this turns into a BFP for you!!

Charting is Knowledge
07-17-2005, 01:52 AM
Updated to here!

babylove
07-17-2005, 05:59 AM
silentbunny ~ You're so sweet, TY!!

***

Temp went UP this morning! YAY! Still got a BFN though.... :confused:
Last month, my LP was 16 days w/ the progesterone supps, so I'm thinking that IF I am pg, I might not get a BFP until closer to 16 DPO (today is 13). Soooo....still hoping for the best! This is torturebut well worth it if it works out in the end!

Thanks for all of your good thoughts!

babylove
07-17-2005, 12:51 PM
My how a day can change things....AF reared her ugly head this afternoon. :( It doesn't make sense to me considering my temp went UP this morning, instead of down, but I have stopped trying to make sense of this process. Oh well, on to the next month....

silentbunny
07-17-2005, 01:13 PM
babylove Sometimes it seems like the more you know, the less you know, doesn't it? :(

That sucks. I'm sorry.

babylove
07-17-2005, 01:46 PM
Thanks ,silentbunny. It's true...this whole process is a mystery. I *wish* I could be one of those people who could just have sex and not think about the particulars. That will never be me.

I am so disappointed, I just want to cry, but I can't. I *really* truly thought that this was our month.

kmmommy
07-17-2005, 02:28 PM
Babylove ~ I'm so sorry that AF showed up. Keeping my fingers crossed for you on this cycle.

UTChick
07-17-2005, 02:45 PM
Babylove~ I am sorry you are having a rotten day. I was pretty surprised to see that happen. Best of luck this next time around.

MrsCantDecide
07-17-2005, 05:08 PM
Babylove ~ Sorry about AF. :(

************
Nothing much going on here... 12 DPO, still spotting, hasn't gotten heavier, but slightly lighter. Didn't take my temp this weekend as I was out of town, so I'll take my temp in the morning and take a test or not take a test based on that.

This is what FF has to say to me today: You are past your usual luteal phase.
You may take a test, you may be pregnant!
HA!

LittleStar
07-17-2005, 05:42 PM
Babylove, I'm sorry. AF found me today too.

Threadmistress, could you please move me to Waiting to O? Thanks!

Baby Lust
07-17-2005, 05:46 PM
BLove, I'm so sorry sweetie! :( {{{HUGS}}}

I may be right behind... I am spotting today... which is strange because AF isn't due until Tuesday... :confused: I guess I will know tomorrow.

Gina, Your chart is looking good! Waiting for test results! :D

Later all!

mayham
07-17-2005, 05:54 PM
Babylove, I'm so sorry AF showed up.

I think AF is around the corner for me too. Temps are above CL, but slowly dropping, and I'm just feeling like AF is on the way.

gator97
07-17-2005, 06:15 PM
Threadmistress. .. you rock! You've already moved me to Think I O'ed before I could even tell you :) When you get a chance could you change both my and my DHs age to 30 (bleck!)

I O'ed early again this month. Wondering if that is the "new normal". Who knows? Just when I think I understand, another curve ball is thrown.

I have been lurking but crazy busy at work so no time to post. I've started several times, but never got to finish and post. At least, I don't think I've posted.. . . :)

So, uber congrats to Red and I don't think I had the chance to say congratulations to Heidi!

So sorry to Babylove and everyone else AF found.

I'm surprisingly unaffected this month (so far anyway). I think I've convinced myself that I have endometriosis and we probably won't get pregnant without intervention. I know you are not supposed to self diagnose, but whatever! So, I'm pretty convinced that this wasn't the month. . plus we only BD O-2, O-3, and O-4. Not the best timing.

In good news, I have an appt. with a new GYN to discuss this intense pelvic pain I've been having. Hoping this guy actually helps to diagnose vs. telling me it's just gas or brushing me off all together. Fingers crossed!

Hope everyone had a great weekend! :D

Guinness
07-17-2005, 06:33 PM
Baby Love and Little Star Sorry AF found you :(

BabyLust I hope she stays away for you!

As for me I am 7DPO and trying to remain calm and unnoticing of any symptoms. It is hard 'cause I just feel different. Only time will tell.

Hope everyone had a good weekend and looking forward from seeing some BFPs from those whose temps are on the rise.

flygirl
07-17-2005, 06:58 PM
babylove, I'm so sorry :( Is it possible, since your temp went up, that this is pg-bleeding. It's not "normal," but from what I've read it's not unusual for women to bleed (not just spot, but actually bleed) during early pg.

LittleStar, more :(. I'm so sorry.

To everyone who thinks AF is coming, I'm holding up my fingers in a cross sign.

Y'all are so funny! No, I wasn't hiding anything. I had to fly to CA last minute yesterday and had a baptism to attend in the morning, so I had no time on the 'puter. I'm here to help out with my mom while my dad's away on business & she keeps me vveerryy busy :/. I think I had a second to put my temps in this morning, but nothing else.

So basically, I'm flat-out confused :confused:. I tested yesterday and got a relatively dark mark, but no line. I should probably take a pic. It's a pen-width line about 1/4" long on the left side of where the "line" should be, but I don't see anything else. CBE digital is still giving me a no, with faint blue lines inside (I know it registers LH, but my first few had no lines, & I thought LH stayed pretty much flat after O). My Equate this morning didn't have anything.

But I noticed that my FMU is actually pretty light yellow. I'm usually a big water drinker & have been in overdrive for the past 2 weeks, so my urine is always diluted. I decided to torture myself and not drink anything today. Almost 12 hours later my urine was much darker, but still nada.

I'm supposed to be 13 DPO & my LP is almost always 12 days (one 13-day LP), and no sign of AF. I go from a creamy CM to stretchy-sticky (never seen that) to flat-out dry all in one day. My bb's are getting bigger every day & they're still quite sore, my nipples are still extra large & the Mont's glands appear more noticeable. I've had a few mild AF cramps & my uterus feels tight, often like it's being tugged on. I've had mile heartburn constantly for the past few days. On Friday, I was watching an episode each of Birth Day & Adoption Stories, and I couldn't stop bawling. My propensity for tears has gotten worse each day & I've been feeling very emotional toward DH (haven't seen him in a week & don't know when I'll see him again; I'll be cheerleading my next cycle).

So.... I'm just still in the waiting phase, I guess. FF called my chart "Possibly Triphasic on Day 25" today, & will tell me to test tomorrow. Guess that's just what I'll have to do http://69.56.212.42/smiles/icon_help.gif. Which reminds me; I need more CBE sticks.

kmmommy
07-17-2005, 07:06 PM
Keeping my fingers crossed for you flygirl!

jeeplover
07-17-2005, 07:17 PM
So my temp went down this morning but not below the CL so I don't know what that means, does anyone?

flygirl I am keeping my fingers crossed for you in hopes that tomorrow brings a BFP your way!

Lizard
07-17-2005, 07:36 PM
Subscribing, but I'm way behind... I'm back from vacation... had a nice time visiting family and shopping and whatnot. :)

So, Friday morning I woke up to some spotting, and didn't think much of it.. then later in the day I realized that was 8 or 9 DPO. Since then I've been thinking it was implantation. :)

I flew home today, and it's either 10 or 11 DPO depending on things... well, I decided to take a test after having spurts of nausea all day, and I saw the slightest of lines. I compared it to a test from last month that I kept, and there's definitely something there. I showed DH, and he said he didn't see anything. I said, "Look at the old test, then the new one"... then he admitted that he saw a line but it didn't look like the comparison line. :) I don't have a pic, but it looks almost exactly like ShannonGH's first test in the other thread.

In any case... I know that a line is a line, but I'm being cautiously optimistic. As a matter of fact, I might not test again tomorrow and wait until Tuesday.. it will be HARD though. I just really think this is it, probably because of that spotting. I gotta go out and buy more tests...

(don't graduate me yet... give me a couple days to get another confirmation and for it to sink into my brain) :)

jeeplover
07-17-2005, 07:46 PM
Lizard tiny congrats to you! Can't wait for you to shout it from the rooftops!

gmb4503
07-18-2005, 03:52 AM
BFN this morning :( I have horrible cramps too! I am expecting AF tomorrow or Wed.

babylove
07-18-2005, 03:58 AM
Thanks, ladies. I appreciate your sympathies!!

flygirl ~ I really don't think it's pgcy bleeding. I had cramps and everything yesterday. :(

***

Threadmistress, can you please move me to "Waiting to O"? Thanks!

jeeplover
07-18-2005, 05:08 AM
Sorry Gina!

Ryan
07-18-2005, 06:23 AM
Happy Monday Girls... (grrr... I just lost a whole post)

Anyway, I am sorry to all those who are getting the terrible cramps.. you know the ones where you just want to tear out your ovaries.... (maybe that is just me.... :eek: )

I am not sure where I stand.. temp went down a bit today but my BBS are killing me... so I do not know if AF is coming or what... I feel like a bloated water buffalo... ick... And DH thinks this past weekend I had an alter ego... one that was cranky, and who cried alot and would get mad if her clothes did not fit or if she could not watch lifetime... :rolleyes:

Well I guess the week will tell what will happen....good luck to everyone...

Ryan

jodylovesscotty
07-18-2005, 06:46 AM
Sorry to all those that the witch found :mad:

As I was chart stalking looking for a chart that looks similar to mine, I came across a mystery BFP. Congrats Mystery BFP!


As for me I am hoping that our weekend was successful. After 7 months I am still learning so much. On Saturday I had a blazin' positive OPK. For some reason I knew that it meant I was going to O. I was so upset when hubby wasn't home. I told him how mad I was at him. Of course then I get out the paper to read to him about the OPKs and it says that it will happpen in the next 12 - 36 hours. So he reassures me he will be home first thing in the morning and we will BD. I was terrified my temp was already going to go up and we would be in trouble. However the temp didn't go up, and we did get mid-morning BD in. Then this morning I had a big temp jump, so hoping we caught that damn egg. Just have to wait 2 more days for FF to give me crosshairs then I can start obsessing.

Charting is Knowledge
07-18-2005, 06:48 AM
Updated to here!

BLove and LittleStar, So sorry about AF!

Gina, I hope AF stays away!

Lizard, Fingers are crossed that your test gets darker!!

katmg
07-18-2005, 06:53 AM
Well, my temps are still screwy. They went up over the weekend but now FF is saying it doesn't think I've O'd. :rolleyes: Bah.

jody - Hope you caught the eggie!!

Baby Lust
07-18-2005, 06:54 AM
Well, I'm right there with Babylove and LS. :( AF showed last night. I have no idea what happened!! I had to have O'd earlier than I thought... otherwise I had an 8 day LP. :( Ouch. I didn't really have high hopes this cycle, so it's not a huge blow, but it still sucks.

DH and I are going to SWH the next 2 months since we will be travelling this summer with our families and don't want to have to worry about timing BDing. I am also going to stop Clomid for those 2 months since my dr will only let me do so many cycles before moving on so I'm not going to waste them on SWH, know what I mean?

I am certainly going to stay here though and cheer you all on! I am WAY too addicted to leave for more than a couple days!! :o


Hoping to see more BFPs in the very near future!!!

Baby Lust
07-18-2005, 06:58 AM
OMG!!!! I see a BFP!!!! :D :D :D :D :D CONGRATULATIONS Mystery Charter!!!!!! Dang!!!! :D

gmb4503
07-18-2005, 07:18 AM
Congrats Mystery BFP!! :D :D So happy for you!!!


Amanda I'm so sorry the witch found you :(

MrsCantDecide
07-18-2005, 07:32 AM
Okay, so I take back what I said about my body being stupid! :D

Got these, this morning.....
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y68/stef842/pgtest.jpg

I haven't told my poor DH yet, I'm going at lunch today to get some stuff to give him, and then the cat will be out of the bag!

Baby Lust
07-18-2005, 07:36 AM
Woohoo!!!!! I am so friggin happy for you MCD! I am just beaming!!!!! :D Have fun telling S!!!! :D :D I wonder if being pg will diminish your rabbit tendencies.... [pondering] ;)

jodylovesscotty
07-18-2005, 07:52 AM
Congrats MCD! H&H 9 months to you!!!

Charting is Knowledge
07-18-2005, 07:59 AM
Updated to here!!! :D

LittleStar
07-18-2005, 08:14 AM
Congratulations MCD!!! H&H 9 months! :D :D

MMHinCA
07-18-2005, 08:40 AM
Congratulations MCD! :) :D :)

UTChick
07-18-2005, 08:57 AM
Congrats MCD! So excited for you!


Well, I just got back from my dr. appt. I was trying out a new doc and I am very pleased to say that I absolutely adore him. He has a great personality, is very up-beat and positive. However, when I first got there, his nurse totally freaked me out. She read on my chart that I had been off BCP since December and immediately started in on all the different fertility issues I could possible have and all the things we would do (blood work, meds, procedures, etc). My head was spinning! Luckily when I saw the dr., he was not as "concerned" as his nurse seemed to be. He basically said to keep doing what we are doing, but to "have more sex!" I called DH after my appt to tell him this and he laughed. Dr also said that I should wait a few more days before I do a HPT and that he hopes to see me back there really soon. I left in such a good mood and very relaxed. This is exactly what I wanted in a doctor.

So...waiting to test until Thursday or Friday (if I can wait that long).

Guinness
07-18-2005, 08:58 AM
Congrats MCD!! :D

Sorry about AF BabyLust. Enjoy your traveling, maybe you will end up with a welcomed surprise ;)

flygirl
07-18-2005, 09:27 AM
MCD, CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!

Lizzard, early congrats to you! Waiting for confirmation!

Amanda & Tracee, that damn witch! :( Gina, I'm not giving up on you yet :).

Ryan, you sound just like me :D

Jody, Here's to catching that eggie!

UTChick, I'm so happy that you've found a good doc! That's my problem right now. I have a pre-concep appt. with a new doc in Sept, which may (hopefully) turn into something else, but I hate the idea of doc-shopping when I'm already pg!

Mayhem, Woo Hoo! Your temp went back up!!!


As y'all can see, still BFN, but still high temp & no sign of AF. Since CD20 was the other possible O date, I played with the temps a bit & FF gave me CH for CD20. That would put me at 10 DPO. This has been driving me so crazy, I'm considering having a blood test. Problem is that I'm 1500 miles away from home. I thought about going to Planned Parenthood (I will probably call them, at least), but I'm not sure they do blood tests. Anyone have any suggestions? I guess I could call my mom's doc (have to do that anyway) for a lab referral.

ETA: I totally forgot about what I did this morning! I took pics of the two Equate tests that showed "something."
This is the *super* faint line from CD26 (looks darker in person!):
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5d939b3127cce92b71f96db4d00000016108AZNm7Vs5bsq
This is the weird mark on the left side of where the line would be, from CD27. Also darker in person:
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5d939b3127cce92b71ffadb2100000016108AZNm7Vs5bsq
And nothing since... :(

Ryan
07-18-2005, 09:49 AM
MCD: CONGRATS….the first good news I have heard all day!

FLYGIRL: Fingers are crossed for ya!

LIZARD: I am part of the cheering section over here

Baby Lust
07-18-2005, 09:49 AM
Fly, Keeping everything crossed for you! Equates have a very very low probability of false positives! :D

Mindy3094
07-18-2005, 09:53 AM
CONGRATULATIONS MCD! I wanted to post something so badly about how your spotting might not be anything, but I didn't want to overstep...but look at you and those beautiful tests! I'm so excited for you!

aprilshowers
07-18-2005, 09:56 AM
Congratulations MCD!!! A very H&H 9 months to you! You will have to come back and share how you told DH!

kmmommy
07-18-2005, 10:14 AM
Congrats MCD!

MMHinCA
07-18-2005, 10:32 AM
I will be 10 DPO tomorrow. Can someone take a look at my chart and let me know if you think I should test tomorrow or wait a couple of days. I am very discouraged because I have had no implantation dip or spotting...

katmg
07-18-2005, 10:41 AM
Congratulations MCD!! That's awesome - can't wait to hear DH's reaction.

MMH - I looked at your chart, and I think it looks good still. Don't be discouraged - not every pg chart has an implantation dip or spotting. Your temps are staying nice and high. 10 DPO could still be a bit soon for a BFP. I'd probably wait a few more days.

Baby Lust
07-18-2005, 11:03 AM
MMH, I would say wait until at least 11DPO. Your temps are nice and high, butto get an accurate result, you really should wait until 12DPO. Now, I know how hard that is, so if you do test before then, just remember that it may be too early! ;) Good luck!

Charting is Knowledge
07-18-2005, 11:10 AM
Would everyone please make sure you are in the right category?

I know there are a few people who may be testing earlier or later than page 1 says, so to ensure proper chart-stalking... (;))

Thanks everyone! And thank you for making my life so easy! :D I appreciate you all!

Lizard
07-18-2005, 11:16 AM
Thanks for the well-wishes ladies... I am waiting until tomorrow morning to test again, so hopefully I will have some good news then. I'm really really excited, I hope this is it. Our families are filled with March birthdays (including my DH's), so it would just be Murphy's Law if we added another one...

ds2003
07-18-2005, 11:22 AM
Congrats MCD and Flygirl.

I'm holding on at CD11.

ShelbyMay
07-18-2005, 11:52 AM
Congrats to all the BFPs!!!

I'm just sitting here on CD 5,877,223 (okay, it just feels like it) and waiting for O. How much of a temperature shift is the minimum, again? I thought surely it was coming a few days ago, but then - nothing. I guess it's back to bumpin' like bunnies this week...

Baby Lust
07-18-2005, 12:09 PM
Shelby, The minimum is .2 degrees.

ETA: Looking at your chart, I would say that you O'd yesterday. 2 more high temps should confirm!

ShannonGH
07-18-2005, 12:36 PM
Just popping in to say congrats to MCD!!! :)

jodylovesscotty
07-18-2005, 12:54 PM
Well I think I Oed yesterday. Temps went up this morning (quite a bit). I will wait 2 more days for FF to call it. I am hoping and praying that we finally caught the egg. We tried the MCD method of BDing like rabbits, but Saturday just didn't happen (TMI, not enough juice). I think we are ok though because that is the day I got my blazin' OPK positive and my temp didn't go up Sunday morning (actually dropped). And we did BD on Sunday AM. I went chart stalking and my chart looks like Shannon's. Hoping we get the same results. :)

Congrats again to MCD!

Some of the charts look so promising. Good luck to all of you :D

UTChick
07-18-2005, 01:01 PM
So sorry to those found by AF. That sucks. :mad:


Question:

Have any of you ever experienced light spotting and slight cramps after an annual gyno exam?

I have very light pink spotting and slight cramps on my lower left back this afternoon after I had my appt this morning. I shouldn't get AF until Friday and I have never experienced this before following an annual. Could it possibly be implantation spotting/cramping this late? I don't know if my chart would shed any light, but anyone who is interested - have at it.

Thanks.

marteneym
07-18-2005, 01:30 PM
MCD CONGRATS!

Sorry to those AF found. {{{{HUGS}}}}

Good luck to the upcoming testers and those with Faint lines. Hope you all get your BFP's.

Jody YAY for O!

cd7 for me.

babylove
07-18-2005, 07:40 PM
CONGRATS MCD!! H&H 9 mo TO YOU!!!

***

Thanks for the sympathy, ladies and sorry to the rest of you who got AF :( It bites. But I am feeling considerably more optimistic now that the initial shock has worn off. I have made a command decision to NOT temp, except for the few days before O and for 3 days after O (to make sure I get 3 high temps). I just can't put myself through the constant rollercoaster of emotions that comes along w/ temping everyday. I have also decided to take a yoga class to see if that helps my stress level. I think back to the month that I got pg and I totally had no clue that my chart was *perfect*....ignorance is bliss. I really think that some of this is mental. Anyway, enough pondering for one night!!

mayham
07-18-2005, 07:51 PM
MCD - CONGRATULATIONS! So glad you got your BFP!

Sorry to everyone who got AF recently. May this next cycle be the one!

jodylovesscotty - Hope you caught the egg this time. Not much longer to wait. Good luck!

babylove - Glad you're feeling more optmistic today. I think a yoga class is a great way to destress and get some exercise in at the same time!

MMHinCA - I'd wait a couple more days to test, since you're not sure yet how long your LP will be. Good luck!

flygirl - thanks for checking in on my chart! I was very surprised to see a high temp this morning... hope it stays high. Though, i was rather hot when I woke up this morning, it was so muggy here... that may have also contributed to the high temp. Guess only time will tell.

Lizard - Good luck, I hope this is it for you!

I'm at 13 DPO. The last 4 days, my temps had been declining, then today jumped back up. I'm hoping that's not just due to the heat this morning when I woke up. If the temp is still high tomorrow I may have a hard time not testing, even though last month's LP was 15 days.

What do you girls think - test or wait?

Baby Lust
07-18-2005, 08:01 PM
Good for you BLove! :)

UT, I always get cramping and spotting after an exam. My dr says it is completely normal. I, on the other hand, think it is completely uncomfortable! :p

May, I say go for it! What have you got to lose? 14DPO is enough time to get an accurate result in most cases. Good luck!!

jeeplover
07-19-2005, 05:30 AM
CONGRATS MCD!!!!!!!!!!

Can someone please take a look at my chart, I have had high temps since I O'd and recently have had alot of heartburn and cramping which are abnormal for me. FF says not to test until the 29th, but do you think I should test sooner? :confused:

Lizard
07-19-2005, 05:36 AM
I am getting really frustrated. My temp shot way up this morning (13 DPO), so I tested again... well, there's a second line, but it's OUTSIDE of the control window on the right hand side. Inside the control window there's the usual control line and nothing else. Combining this with my beyond-light 2nd line 2 days ago is just killing me. This is with FRER's, by the way.

I'm done testing now for several days... this is getting ridiculous, I just want a definite yes or no one way or another, and it appears I need to be patient and wait longer for that.... sigh. :)

Ryan
07-19-2005, 06:14 AM
Happy Tuesday ladies:

Lizard: I am with you.. very frustrated…. but hang in there you will get an answer one way or the other at somepoint.

Mayham: What good self control you have waiting so long… I wish I was like that….

Babylove: That is a great decision… this temping business takes control of your mind and you feel like during the 2ww period you are so obsessed…

UTCHICK: No I have not had light spotting or cramping but I do hear it is normal…it would figure that I would not have it… obviously my body is soo ooo not normal.


My Update: I am totally trying to not to get frustrated but I am CD12 and I tested and I got a big fat negative…the more I look at my chart the more I think I O’d on CD32 but the CF does not match… ugh.. this happened to me last month…any suggestions?

gmb4503
07-19-2005, 06:43 AM
I'd like to join the frustrated club!!! My temp stayed the same this morning. Light cramps and I feel like AF is about to start at any point. 2 BFN's already so I am hesitating on testing again. I just can't deal with another one!!!

Baby Lust
07-19-2005, 06:43 AM
Good morning ladies!

Lizard, I would suggest using an Equate. FRER are notorious for false results and it sounds like you are frustrated enough. Run to WalMart and get an Equate woman! And POAS like a pro! :D

Must go chart-stalk! 1 more BFP and we can close this baby down! :D



ERA: Gina, I'm so sorry sweetie! Hold your pee for 4 hours, then POAS. Today is your test day! Use an Equate so you can get an accurate result, then come back and let us know! ;)


I should be in PR for Equate! Lord! :rolleyes:

amurphy
07-19-2005, 06:56 AM
Checking in from vacation to send my congratulations and good wishes to the owners of beautiful BFPs!

I'm on CD14. I had a hard time temping the first few days of vacation--waking up earlier than usual! I broke down last night and set my alarm. (Of course I woke up on my own right before the alarm was set to go off this morning.) CM has been crazy these last few days so we've been BDing like crazy. :o Hoping to O any day now . . .

katmg
07-19-2005, 07:10 AM
Okay...add me to the frustrated club. Still don't know what my cycle is doing. If anyone would like to take a look and let me know what you think. Should I be expecting AF in the next week? Did I actually O? Argh.

gmb4503
07-19-2005, 07:14 AM
Amanda I tried to save money and use Dollar Tree tests and it just got me more frustrated!!! I should have stayed with Equates from the beginning!! Some things you just can't skimp on ;)

MMHinCA
07-19-2005, 07:18 AM
I tested this morning... BFN! I am not going to test again until Friday (if AF does not come before then). I temp did rise up to 98.9 today. :confused: :( :confused:

ellebelle
07-19-2005, 07:18 AM
Can I join? I started the TTC w/ charting thread over at the WC right after the change over (I have a new name now) thinking that things would turn around, but the more time that goes by a more of a mess it becomes.

My stats:
Me: 27
DH: 34
Married: 06.21.03
Off BCP: 08.03
Charting Since: 08.03
TTC Since: 06.05

TTC Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2f8f5)

I'm basically waiting for AF to arrive so that DH and I can start on cycle #2 TTC. Glad to see my 2WW buddy over here! Did you test Mayham? I wanted to so badly last night, but when my temp took another dive this morning I decided not to.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to getting to know the rest of you over here on CC. :D

ETA: the color red to my stats

Lizard
07-19-2005, 07:23 AM
Good morning ladies!

Lizard, I would suggest using an Equate. FRER are notorious for false results and it sounds like you are frustrated enough. Run to WalMart and get an Equate woman! And POAS like a pro! :D

You know, I was at WalMart last night and almost grabbed Equate, but then I decided to grab the FRERs, since I'd already had a light line with them and I thought it'd be the best way to compare. Darn it! :mad: My Sunday test sure does look like a BFP, and if FRER gave me a false positive I definitely won't use them again. TTCing is stressful enough without false tests, LOL.

My cycle's been like clockwork so far (thank goodness), and my luteal phase has been between 12-14 days. So, I think I'll wait 'til Thursday (when AF will be officially late) and test again.

jeeplover
07-19-2005, 07:51 AM
Will someone please look at my chart, I am trying to decide if I should test earlier than what FF says since I am feeling so crumby. Any help is appreciated!

Guinness
07-19-2005, 08:00 AM
hbeshore I think your chart is looking very good. But I would wait to test. Your last cycle had a very long LP, so I would be patient. Also if yesterday was implantation, a couple extra days would make it a positive positive if it is there. I would test Sat or Sun if I were you. The 29th is a bit ridiculous I think if you are really on DPO11 now. Now take this for what it is worth. This is my 1st month TTC, so the others may have more experienced advice ;)

There are lots of long LPs this week wi