TTC w/ Charting Vol. 21 - Starting summer off right!

[miaclear]

Ack....anyone want to check out my chart. It looks like a dip and O but I hope not. I hope it's just some wacky temps. Cause we have yet to BD this cycle cause I wasn't even supposed to be Oing till maybe Wed.


On the 16th I had some very intense dreams all night and it didn't feel like I slept so I thought that was what caused my temp rise. And last night I went to bed a lot later than normal and temped an hour later than normal. But I slept pretty good throughout the night. I was having dreams, not so intense though. If I Od already this will be the shortest cycle in my life. :(

[mrs_pell]

It's been FIVE days since I've posted in here! Things have been crazy busy, and it's going to be impossible to truly catch up on personals, but I have a few I have to do! :)

HUGE CONGRATS to MrsHill!!! I knew that chart was a good one! :) I'm so excited for you!!

Jody ~ Welcome back. You and your hubby are handling this all so well!

MrsKinnison ~ Hope you had a good time on your camping trip and that it was a "success." :D

Cowgirl ~ Happy Anniversary (a few days too late...sorry! :O ) Hope it was a good one! Our 3 year will be in July...hard to believe it's been 3 years!

gymwidow ~ Great news from the doc!!!

Welcome Sunshine, Risa00 and Sweetred! Hope your stays here are not long ones! :)

ABirney ~ Congrats on the weight loss!!! That's awesome! So is the news that the doc gave the okay to keep TTC!

MrsR ~ That is one pretty chart!

Sneak, MrsR, Polka, Pocahontas, and MrsJackson ~ Sorry that AF found you guys. :(

I know I missed a ton of people, and I'm sorry! To anyone else that AF showed, I'm sorry. To those getting ready to BD and those getting ready to test...GOOD LUCK!! :)

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As for me, I'm 9dpo and my temps are pretty much all over the place. Definitely *not* a pretty chart this month! I almost didn't even put this morning's temp in because it was only after 3 hours of sleep instead of my normal 8. But, since it's post-O, I guess it doesn't matter (except for the prettiness of the chart). If I had a better looking chart (and if I were having some symptoms), I'd test tomorrow morning just since it's father's day, and I'd love to be able to tell him on FD, but since it's not so pretty, I'll just wait my normal 16 days.

eta: So, after major chart stalking (through all the BFP charts), I have definitely seen some not-so-pretty charts result with BFPs...so, maybe my ugly chart will end pretty afterall.

[j*east]

It's late for me, but I wanted to get this in. I am very proud of my first pair of cross hairs...although if I use FAM instead of advanced mode in FF, they go away. I feel better with them there, at least for now (I'll sleep better tonight), so I'm leaving 'em.

Threadmistress, please move me to "Think I O'ed June 14--testing June 28-July 2." Is there an official way to set a testing window? I'm going w/ 14-18 DPO.

Some SO's...

MrsPell, my chart isn't going to be too pretty and may end up being anov, but I appreciated your thoughts...our charts don't have to be completely pretty to get PG, right? (Though I know it helps.)

Miaclear, I'm sure you'll hear this again, but I think it's too early to tell about O'ing on your chart. I had a huge rise around day 9, but it was nothing. Without fertile CM (or any CM) it seems unlikely that you O'ed this early. I think you're okay.

SweetRed, I hope you had a good night out! Your chart looks nice so far!

charliezangel, I want to see your and MrsHill's pretty pics! :)

Soulmate, I appreciate your thoughts on the TTC tricks. I think the tricks help us feel like we have some control over a mostly uncontrollable process. I don't know if that's a good thing or not, but I know the "control" I get from charting and Pre-Seed may be illusory, at least until I get more familiar with my own patterns.

polkadot and anyone else, sorry about AF. :(

Lurking mommies, thanks for the baby dust!

There are others I've missed but DH is making me go to bed. (11:30 really isn't that late, but it's late for us.) Hope everyone is doing well!! Enjoy the weekend.

[mrs_pell]

j*east ~ Congrats on your first CH!! :) This is the first cycle that if I switch it to FAM my crosshairs go away too. I don't like seeing that, so I keep it on advanced! ;)

[miaclear]

J*East ~ I'm sure you're right. I'm just hoping tomorrows temp is normal. I was going to stark OPKs today but didn't. If my temp goes down tomorrow I'll start them.

[charliezangel]

j*east Pop into the health and fitness forum. There is a thread Before & After. MrsHills's is on the first page I believe (she looks incredible) and mine is on one of the last couple pages. There are also a couple other women who look spectacular after their weight loss.

OK, I have a question. Maybe I should put it in the PG board, but I thought I saw someone ask this here a while back.

I'm like 5 days late, so i took a couple dollar tree tests, both BFN, no faint line....So tonight, me and DH ran to walmart and picked up a CBE digital test. The test read Not Pregnant, but when I popped out the stick, there was a very faint second line. I thought i saw on here someone who experienced this and ended up with a BFP a few days later. Are these tests designed to even read the lines??? Or is that just an immediate evap line??? I dunno, at this point i wouldn;t care if i started bleeding right now, i just need an answer. I'm super anxious about this.

[mrs_pell]

charliezangel ~ Here's a link (http://www.pregnancy-info.net/QA/answers-Clear_Blue_Digital/) to a message board with a lot of discussion about the CBE Digital and 1 vs 2 lines when you take it out. There doesn't seem to be a clear answer, though, that I've seen. :( Here are a few comments from there:

I took one the other day and it came back not pregnant and also saw the two lines. I read the instructions and it specifies that the lines have nothing to do with whether your pregnant or not .

I did 3 digital tests on three different days, the first two showed Not Pregnant and only a single line when i ejected the cartridge. The third test showed Not Pregnant but had two lines when I ejected the cartridge. This made me a little suspicious so today, a week after my last test i did a normal test(non digital) and it is a definite positive.

Okay... let me try to clear this up for people who are still having trouble. The digital test DOES NOT work the same way as other pg tests. It looks at the darkness of the second line... not just if it's there or not. The instructions say NOT to look at the lines because you must only go by the digital result.

Sorry...not much help. :(

[charliezangel]

actually, a ton of help. Thank you mrs_pell

[mrs_pell]

Sure! I just didn't know if it was much help b/c there were so many conflicting stories. I tell ya, though, reading through those posts almost gave me a headache! Makes me realize how much I love the format of these boards (as well as the maturity of the posters!). :)

[charliezangel]

Sure! I just didn't know if it was much help b/c there were so many conflicting stories. I tell ya, though, reading through those posts almost gave me a headache! Makes me realize how much I love the format of these boards (as well as the maturity of the posters!).

I completely agree. I was reading and wondering "how many 15 yr olds are pregant these days !!!". lol...But, I did find a website frm that board that gave me my answer pretty clearly.

Apparently the Digital tests not only mearsures hCG, but also LH (which is almost always present in the female body, obviously more present during ovulation). SOOO, the lines pretty much mean nothing. However, that message board really does make me question....or maybe i'm just questioning my countless BFNs becase i JUST WANT AN ANSWER ALREADY!!!!! yeah, that's where i am right now.

[flygirl]

j*east (& MrsP), I'm guessing you O'd & the CH are correct. :) The reason FAM takes them away is because FF uses the very strict 3 over 6 rule (3 temps at least .2 deg higher than the previous six). The actual rules allow for "rule of thumb" ignoring some temps that are obviously out of the ordinary. If you discarded the temps from CD9 & 10 the FAM tuner would probably give you CH with a CL at 97.5. As for testing, FF will automatically suggest testing at 14DPO. If you manually add CH in the previous charts at CD16 & CD15, FF will probably suggest testing at 16DPO, which is one day past your longest LP.

charliezangel, I just answered your question in depth before reading your last post. Glad I checked :o.) For anyone else who'd interested, the website is peeonastick.com - Secret of the Digital (http://www.peeonastick.com/hpt/digitalsecret.html). Sorry this cycle is so frustrating!

[ChicagoKate]

charliezangel ~ Check out www.peeonastick.com for the section "sectret of the digital". It talks about why you get two lines on the digi but it's still a BFN. (Oops - cross posted w/ flygirl)

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Not much new for me. I'm still waiting to O. The Fertility monitor is showing "high" fertility rating but the manual says that your first cycle is not very accurate as the monitor needs to get used to your cycles.

HAPPY FATHER'S DAY to all!!

[miaclear]

My temp dropped way back down to where it should be (thank god) so I'll start my OPKs this afternoon.

I just found out my cousin had a miscarriage at 10 weeks. I'm not sure what the correct term is but she had a sack and a placenta but no baby was growing in it. She has another daughter who is just over a year old. I feel so sad for them. My uncle asked me to delete the announcment and all the congratulations for them on our family website.

[SweetRed]

j*east Congrats on the crosshairs! I know how important that can be :)

charliezangel I feel your frustration. Hopefully you'll have an answer soon.

miaclear So sorry to hear about your cousin. It's hard on any family. Thank goodness your temps are back where they should be and you can BD away! :D

I'm out this cycle. AF showed up today, and I'm perfectly fine with it. The good news is that this cycle was much more "normal" than my last, and I hope it stays that way. I'm also happy that despite the confusion in my chart, I could figure out when I O'd. I'm learning! Threadmistress, please move me to "Waiting to O"

My Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/128004)

[flygirl]

mia, you chart looks good :). Are you checking CM internally? If not, you'll be surprised at how much CM you have, and that'll help relieve any concerns about Oing. I'm so very sorry for your cousin :(. Have you deleted the information from the website? If not, you might want to save it in a doc. I sometimes feel comforted reading my LJ announcement and all the congrats, knowing how much support I have. If I were in your cousin's shoes where there was a family announcement, I would have felt like the family was denying my angel baby, even if there was a m/c announcement. And that's another thing: consider putting up a m/c announcement, even if your uncle protests. Your cousin will be forever thankful for those supportive messages. Just as with my pg announcement, I feel very comforted by the support I received from the m/c announcement, too.

[charliezangel]

OK, if i'm not PG this cycle (which would just be weird) I think I'm gonna come back. We've been talking about it and I think we are ready again...we're like a freakin yo-yo. Another 4 months, we'll be taking a break again. I don't know. Anyway, Threadmistress, i will let you know when we make a inal decision.

[honeygirl]

I'm back from our quick weekend away and 6DPO. Honestly after reading what flygirl wrote about LPD I'm not feeling very hopeful about our chances. I guess I figure what's the point until the dr can determine why I have a LPD. I'm trying to stay positive but it seems like a waste. :(

miaclear - Sorry to hear about your cousin.

charliezangel - I hope you have some good news really soon!

SweetRed - It sounds like you have a very positive attitude, good luck with the next cycle!

j*east - Your first TTC cycle is going quickly! Good luck with your 2ww.

[miaclear]

Flygirl...I haven't checked internally for CM since cycle 1. Thanks for reminding me too ;) Just took my first OPK...it was negative. FF has me ovulating on Thursday but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a little earlier. I just bought the cheap Walgreen brand OPKs so who knows if they'll even work. But they were half the price of the brand name ones.

I did delete the information from the family website already. I had thought about not doing it right away but since my uncle asked me to I did. I am going to send her a card in the mail though, and I have a feeling other family members will as well. At least then she can see those when she wants to and not have to look at them every time she logs on to the website. I know though, especially from these boards, how important it is to acknowledge her loss.

[j*east]

Awww....thanks everyone! I am feeling the love from y'all today. :) It's so nice to get support since I'm not talking to anyone about it IRL except DH.

miaclear, I'm so sorry to hear about your cousin. I'm glad you're being supportive of her.

honeygirl, I'm sorry you're not feeling so optimistic this month. Thanks for cheering me on. I feel very lucky to have relatively short cycles so they go by faster.

charliezangel, good luck making your decision. I'm sure you'll know when the time is right. I checked out your pictures in that thread--cute! :)

flygirl, thanks for looking at my chart. I was messing around with deleting that high CD9 temp, but I ultimately left it. My waking times have been all over the place with the end of school (I'm a teacher) b/c my schedule's been a little different each day. I thought about setting an alarm for the same time each day, but I'm so reluctant to do that. Also, there's no pattern so far for my sleeping-in temps. Anyway, thanks for the vote of O confidence!

SweetRed, I'm sorry you're out this cycle :(, but glad you're figuring out your cycle and chart :). Good for you.

ChicagoKate, good luck with the fertility monitor!

MrsP, didya see that flygirl says we earned our CH's? Go us!

Me...I'm so proud of my first TTC chart! (This is our 2nd month TTC, but first charting.) It's not that special so far, but after looking at a zillion, I'm glad to have my own! Yay!

[mrs_pell]

Flygirl ~ Thanks for the reassurance about Oing! I definitely like it much better when it's a prettier chart, but I'll take it as long as there's an O. :)

ChicagoKate ~ Yeah for the high reading! Good luck with the BDing!

miaclear ~ Sooo sorry about your cousin! :(

SweetRed ~ Sorry AF found you, but yeah for a normal cycle!

charliezangel ~ You're allowed to keep changing your minds...until you get pregnant at least! ;) Hopefully you'll get your answer soon about this cycle! I'd be going crazy too!

honeygirl ~ Sorry you're not feeling so optimistic. :( I don't know much about LPD, so I don't have any great advice for ya, but just know we're here if you need to vent.

j*east ~ I saw that! Yeah us!!

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11 dpo for me, and temp skyrocketed this morning...I even took it twice to make sure it was right! Hopefully it stays up there!

Off to watch some X-Files with the hubby. Have a great Sunday night everyone.

[charliezangel]

Alright, depending on what the heck happens with my body in the next week, i'll be coming back (even if temporarily). So for now Threadmistress, can you put me at "think I O'd" testing 6/23

I'm waiting to take another HPT till friday. If AF comes before that, I'll start temping on day 1. Is she comes after, same thing. If she doesn't come at all...wellll...hopefully there will be some good news on friday.

OK, so i asked this in the PG forum. I'll ask it here too. 14-16 DPO, 5 days late....today i'm at the mall with my mom, i felt something "down there" that i thought might be AF. I rushed off to the bathroom and what was there was a big clump of white EWCM. Like,way more than my peak fertile day. Has anyone ever had this before a BFP. I've never experienced this after I've Od. I've always had a little more CM right before AF, but just a little more of the sticky kind, nothing fertile. This was most definetly fertile quality CM. Any ideas? Also, when it came out, i did have a little bit of cramping. Not bad, but noticeable.


SweetRed sorry to hear the wench arrived. Now that we've changed our minds about wating, i'm hoping she stays away. Good luck next cycle.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here.

[flygirl]

Y'all are too funny!

charliez, I regularly get a full glob of EWCM a day or two before AF. There are two possible (or simultaneous) causes for it: 1) as the CL dies your prog. levels drop causing an increase in moisture in your CM; and 2) you actually begin to develop a mucus plug toward a longer LP and when your CL dies it's released in the form of a huge EW-type glob (I've always called them 'globules'). That said, one of the things I've noted in each of my BFP cycles is a feeling of leaking without a huge amount of CM until later in the day.

MrsP, I was waiting to see your temp this morning. Very nice :).

j*east, ah. that makes sense. I don't blame you for not wanting to set your alarm when you *finally* get to sleep in :). However, you might want to keep a paper chart with temp adjustments equal to .05-.1 deg every half hour to see how it affects your chart. For most of us there is no one pattern you can follow throughout your entire cycle (some days a couple of hours make no difference; other times I can get a full .5 degree difference in an hour), but the overall pattern is usually more distinguishable than not altering your temps. In other words, keep two seperate charts (either with OS or on paper) with adjusted temps vs. actual temps and watch the patterns.

Mia, just keep acknowledging your cousin at this point. The cards are good; you don't want to go overboard, but neither do you want to imply that she should move on (not that you are, but sometimes a lack of acknowledgement can be interpreted as such).

Since you don't have many charts in FF, don't worry about following its suggestions yet. You're right to start (& keep) testing now. Just keep your mind open & don't expect anything at a specific time. I've seen a few times when someone missed a +OPK because she was expecting it at a different time. I'm not an OPK expert (only used them once before getting the monitor), but I've read that many of them are not totally reliable. The only one I've read as regularly reliable is CBE, but don't let that get in the way this cycle. The tests might not be totally reliabel, but it doesn't mean you won't get a + :).

honeygirl, don't feel discouraged! I looked through your charts & honestly, I'm surprised your Dr. diagnosed you with LPD. It's usually limited to LPs that are consistently 10 or fewer days, unless an u/s or biopsy says differently. So for now, stay positive!

[charliezangel]

That said, one of the things I've noted in each of my BFP cycles is a feeling of leaking without a huge amount of CM until later in the day.

flygirl what if I had been having that "leaking" feeling a little the night before, and the this morning...then i had the "glob" at about 2:30 this afternoon. I'm jsut trying to understand what you are saying. So this probably means AF is on the way?? LOL, i'm so confused about what is going on.

[MrsR]

Well ladies after my longest LP ever, another negative HPT (different brand) and two temp drops, AF finally arrived yesterday. I am actually feeling okay about it since we are seeing the RE now so hopefully this month with the IUI it will be it.

Threadmistress, can you please move me to "Waiting to O"

Thanks ladies for all the positive vibes, I will be back later for SOs . . .

[tealynn]

Mrs. R, so sorry! I was stalking your chart before you posted and noticed that the HO had arrived. I'm glad you're feeling okay about it though...

Mrs. Pell, noticed you had a temp drop today, hopefully that's an implantation dip (is 12 DPO too late for that?) and not the onset of "you know who" also, looking at past charts, that dip is unusual for you, so I hope it's good news!

charliezangel, I'm also supposed to be waiting until my next cycle to try again but it hasn't stopped us from bding, or temping or charting so pretty much nothing's changed. I hope you get your answer very soon, either way it drives one to the brink of insanity not knowing!

Miaclear, sorry to hear about your cousin. It's awesome that you can be there for her.

ChicagoKate, good luck w/ your fertility monitor and your positive reading! Modern technology rocks ;)

J*east, it's really hard to remember to take your temp. I'm so with you. I leave my BBT next to my alarm clock and I still jump out of bed w/o remembering to do it!

Honeygirl, maybe you should get a second opinion on the LPD diagnosis? Maybe Flygirl is right, that it's not as bad as your doctor thinks.

Well, after this weekends temps, FF gave me crosshairs (said in a very proud manner) And my temp is unusually high today...I don't think there's any reason for it. It was actually quite chilly in our room thanks to the A/C being full blast. I am feeling a little crampy and emotional but maybe I'm just a big cry baby! :D

Threadmistress please move me to "Think I O'ed testing June 18th"

[jessied1025]

Hi Girls...no time for s/o's.

A quick Congrats to MrsHill H&H 9 months to you!!

Threadmisstress: Could you move me to "Think I O'd - testing June 28" Thanks

[MrsKinnison]

It was only for a long weekend, but I was gone too long to be able to do SO's, but I did want to say a HUGE CONGRATS TO MRSHILL!!!

As for me, we had a GREAT time camping!! I definately couldn't temp while camping, and of course last night was our first night using the AC, so today's temp may not be right on, but probaby within .1 either way just knowing my body from doing this for so long. I DEFINATELY have not O'd yet, but so far I'm not seeing any CM at all :confused: and I would be VERY surprised if I didn't O in the next day or two....

However, I did take 2 advil saturday morning. When I went for my yearly, my GYN did tell me that ibruprofen can delay/prevent O, but could that happen from just 1 dose?

[flygirl]

charliezangel, did you feel relatively dry after the glob, or did it stay "juicy?" On a +cycle the CM turned watery by 10DPO & by 13DPO I was calling it a "watery gel." On a regular cycle I get the EW globs for a day or two, but even after getting a lot of thick EW, I don't feel slippery inside, if that makes sense.

MrsR, I'm sorry, but I'm glad you have a positive outlook this cycle :).

MrsK, there was a very small study (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=11704117&dopt=Abstract) done on the affects of ibuprofen on O, but all they noticed was a very small chance for a slight delay between the LH surge and O, and this was on a high dose (800mg) taken for 10 days. In other words, the chances of the ibuprofen affecting your cycle at this point are next to none :).

[charliezangel]

Tealyn you're tellin me. I thought I might go nuts if i didn't have an answer soon

Flygirl actaully, I was still seeing a little wet CM until last night. BUT, AF did rear her ugly head this morning....so i'm going on your theory of a mucus plug forming. I will almost guarentee you that if I was temping that cycle, I woulf have had a huge temp drop yesterday morning. It makes sense though. My LP is typically 11-13 days and this time around it was like 16 (lmaybe longer, i'm not sure the exact day I Od). with the prgestrone levels building in my body (and maybe i was having a slight chemical pregnancy that was undetectable by the HPTs) I can see how my body was preparing for PG by forming a mucus plug. When the progestrone dropped yesterday, the mucus plug popped out because my linning was starting to shed and my uterus was contracting. Mind you, it was a weird way to learn something new, but i did!!!! Thank you for all of the info

SOOOOO Threadmistress, please move me to "wating to O"

Let me tell you, my body made up for the fact that i was late. I woke up about 7am with some cramps. I tempped as soon as I woke up because I was planning to anyway. 97.15....typical for AF day. I knew immediatly that she had come. I went to the bathroom, cleaned up and went back to bed till about 9 when i woke up with even worse cramps. I fixed myself some tea and drew a bath for myself. That seemed to help a little bit, but i was still in a ton of pain. We had no painkillers in the house, so i was trying to breathe through it. When i got out of the bath, i started to feel really nauseas. I went to lay on the couch for a bit, got back in the shower at like 10:30 and started vomitting. I've never felt that with AF. I've always just had cramps and backache. But never nauseas enough to vomit. So DH woke up to me moaning on the shower floor. He ran to the store and got me some Aleve, but i didn't take it right away because i was dry-heaving (I know you all want to know this). I finally toom the Aleve and put myself in bed around 12:30. I turned on my heating pad and passed out. Usually, i put a top sheet between the heating pad an my stomach so it doesn't burn my skin, but the sheet must have slipped off cuz when i woke up i was cluthching the heating pad directly on my stomach. Now I have little red burns from it!!! Kinda fraked me out, but if i leave it be and don't use the heating pad tonight, i think i'll be ok. But I feel much better now. And I'm back to charting and TTC. Who knows, I may be out again in a week. We are very confused about what we want.

Edited to fix spelling errors, although I'm sure there are more!!!

[Sneak]

charliezangel: your post sounds so familliar! Last week when af showed, it was the most intense, painful AF I have ever had. sorry if TMI but the cramps were killing me, so incredibly heavy, big clots (never had that before) and then all of a sudden got incredibly weak, nauseous, started dryheaving, and then was so weak fell asleep early early in the evening and slept right through the night. i have no idea why it was that way but believe me, I think I can understand a little of what you were feeling and hope both you and I never have that feeling again!

[JayJay]

Charliez and Sneak, I can totally relate to you both! The cramps and the clots...boy oh boy...being a woman is great sometimes, huh?

Question about the clots....is there an explanation for them? Anybody?

[Chris~n~Jen]

Sorry no time for S/O's. This thread moves so fast it's hard to keep up with if you miss a day. :D

Chris & I went away for the weekend but I still managed to temp. Last night I entered my weekend temps and sure enough, I've got crosshairs. I really hope that FF is accurate on my O date since our BDing was pretty good.
So threadmistress, pleave move me to "Think I O'd. Testing 06/27-06/30."

[Sneak]

So sorry you have gone through it too MrsJackson. Sometimes it really makes me think men have life SO EASY! hehe Explanation for clots? I have no clue. i just know that I had never had anything like this - and so big. i talked to my mom and she said the size I had isn't really considered big (she is a nurse) but to me it was huge! hehe I hope someone knows what may cause them around here....

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here.

[charliezangel]

OK, the clots (flygirl, correct me if i'm wrong, and i probably am in some places). Keep in mind that what you are seeing when AF comes is like 1 teaspoon blood, and all the rest tissue and unterine lining. When you body prepares for PG it creates a lnining in the uterus for the egg to implant in and grow. This becomes the "cushion", as my mom explains it, for the baby. When the egg does not implant or if it does, but your progestrone drops (wich i think was my case) the linning sheds and, VIOLA, AF. I almost always see clots, but i clot very quickly anyway. When i get an IV or give blood, i will actually clot around the needle, which makes things very hard. But what you are seeing are peices of linning that have congeled together. The utures has to work harder to get these past the cervical openeing, which is why the mega cramping when they pass. I have had clots push my tampon out (tmi, i know) which is why i don't wear them much. Not fun, and very painful.

Here's something I found by googling

What if I have big clots of blood during my menstrual period?

Dark, chunky clots of blood can be perfectly normal. Many women get them during their menstrual period when they have days of heavy cramping and heavy bleeding. Your body usually makes things called "anti-coagulants," that keep your blood from clotting as it moves to your vagina and out of your body. But during days of heavy bleeding and cramping, your body is pushing blood so quickly out of you that your body does not have time to release these anti-coagulants. Your blood then clots. If you have clots that are bigger than a quarter, it is a good idea to talk with your health care provider.

link (http://www.youngwomenshealth.org/menstrual9.html)

[JayJay]

Thanks, Charliez for that info. I haven't always had clots, it started more when we started TTC....but then again, lots of things have changed about my cycle since we started. My visits from AF have gotten shorter, my flow is loads lighter, and the clots are present. I never had them before.

Isn't is weird how a woman's body changes?

[MrsR]

okay ladies, going to see the RE tomorrow for blood work and u/s and then get my new script for clomid. The appointment nurse is counting today as CD 1 since I did not start AF until late in the afternoon yesterday - weird, but okay since FSH can be tested on CD 2 or CD 3 so we are good to go. I am also doing the ashkenazi panel blood work and a fasting insulin test.

The nurse said I will sit down with the other NP with a calendar to go through what days we will be doing what this cycle -- probably go back in on CD 10 for another u/s and then hopefully the IUI soon thereafter -- we will be leaving for the Bahamas for a one night trip for a wedding on CD13 and returning on CD 14 and then fourth of July will be CD 16 and then we leave for Ireland on CD 20 for 8 days so fingers crossed that all of the timing works out this cycle ladies. . .

[mrs_pell]

MrsR ~ Sorry AF found you. :( Hopefully the RE and the clomid will be what y'all need and you'll get that HPT next month.

Tealynn ~ Yeah...big drop this morning. Blah. And, yeah for your CHs!!

jessied1025 ~ Yeah for Oing! Hopefully this is it for you!

MrsKinnison ~ Glad you had a good time camping! I haven't been camping in so long! We were talking about going out to Big Bend in a few months (when it cools down), but I think we'll get a cabin! :p

charliezangel ~ Sooo glad you got your answer! Even though it wasn't the answer you'd come to want, at least you can move on and try this month for real! And, who cares if y'all keep changing your minds? It's a HUGE decision! Sorry that you had such a rough time with the ho this morning. I hate it when I have months like that (though they've never been THAT bad!).

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As for me...as Tealynn said, had a HUGE drop this morning. I was so sad to see it, and shocked actually. No sign of AF yet, but I'm guessing she's not far away, This is my 4th cycle charting, and so far LPs have been 16, 16, and 14. but today's only 12dpo, which is why I was so shocked to see that low number today (I even took it twice b/c I fell back asleep the first time and was hoping that I had my mouth open. No such luck.

In other news...we got to deal with flooding all over the city today! We got about 10" of rain in less than 2 hours early this morning, and then it just kept raining. I didn't leave for work until about 9am, and thankfully my roads were okay. But, it's still raining, and supposedly we may get even more tonight, with possibilities of another 5-10"!!! Crazy!!

[MrsKinnison]

MrsR ~ Sorry about AF! You have a very busy month ahead of you, so hopefully it will go by fast and have a great surprise at the end!

mrs_pell ~ I'm hoping todays temp is just a fluke and it is back up tomorrow!

sneak, MrsJackson & charliezangel ~ I hope I never know what you go through!

Well, I think O is on the way. The signs are there, but unfortunately not much for cm still. Hopefully the preseed is working some magic!!

[Sneak]

threadmistress, please change my chart link in my name to http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=sneak . Thanks.

[ABirney]

Hey ladies... I'm back home and just catching up..
Congrats MrsHill! And thanks for the encouragement!
Welcome sweetred.
Sorry about your cousin miaclear.
Sorry to those AF found and good luck to those O'ing.

Well for me, I've got some EWCM going on the past couple days, so hopefully I'll O soon. We'll see!

[flygirl]

MrsP, interesting temp jump this morning . As you mentioned you're still a day away from your last LP so it may drop again by Thursday...or it may not. In other words, I don't think your temps mean anything right now. :) Frustrating, isn't it?

A word (or 2) about clotting: there are 5 gazillion (or something like that) reasons for clotting. First of all, clots have become a catch-all word for any more-solid substance, so it can encompass bits of the endometrium as well as actual blood clots. The latter are similar to the clots you get when a scab forms over a cut. The blood either comes so fast your body doesn't have tme to release anti-coagulents (see charliez's quote above - which I just saw :o), or it pools in the uterus as it waits to exit and the anti-coagulents are unable to overcome the long exposure to air. This can be caused by something as simple as a slight hormonal change that cycle, or an obstruction in the uterus, such as fibroids.

If they're not a regular occurance then it's usually nothing to worry about. If they become chronic (over 4-6 cycles), it's worth getting checked out.

[MrsR]

okay ladies, the weirdest thing -- I went in to see the RE and had bloodwork done for CD 3, u/s and gave them a urine sample so they could make sure I was not PG so I can start the clomid -- the NP said I must be near then end of AF as my uterine lining was so thin (2.7 mm). Well, NP just called me back and said my urine test came back with a faint positive -- I know I am not PG so they are also going to run a PG test on my CD3 bloodwork and are calling me back with the results -- UGGGH!!!!

[pocahontas]

Can someone please refresh my memory...I know we were talking about Evening Primrose Oil (don't remember what page or who was having the convo.) But what was the other supplement that was mentioned (besides the EPO?) Or maybe someone can just point me in the direction of the page it was on. :o Thanks.

ETA: Never mind...found it. Thanks.

[flygirl]

MrsR, major ugh! I'm sorry this has been so confusing. I think the two most probably explanations are either a chem pg (very likely) or a vanishing twin (not as likely with a drop in temps, but still very possible. Have you temped the last 2 days? Has AF been heavy?). Dr's urine tests are usually sensitive to 50 mIU/ml of hCG, in other words, not as sensitive as some at-home tests. If you had a chem pg, it could have taken this long for the hCG to metabolize in your urine, even while the blood levels are dropping. I'm really interested to hear what your blood test says!

[jjsanner]

Mrs. R, I am sorry that this past cycle has been so confusing :( . Based upon how pretty your chart was, I was suspecting to see a BFP and when you announced that AF had arrived I was very surprised. I would also guess a chemical pregnancy. Please let us know when you get the blood test results. **HUGS**

[tealynn]

Mrs. R, I'm sorry too, I agree w/ jjsanner on thinking your chart looked so good this past cycle. Please let us know what's going on...

Pocohontas,this is from Miaclear's post dated 6-11-06

"Been doing some research and this quote seemed to sum it up the most, Evening Primrose Oil - helps to increase fertile quality cervical fluid and also...

http://www.babyhopes.com/articles/herbs.html"

Plus, if you go in the family planning thread and type "evening primrose oil" in to the search box, you'll come up with a few other threads. Good luck!

Mrs. Pell, I too, am admiring your nice temp jump this morning...you go girl! Tomorrow will be 14 DPO and your longest LP is 16, so will you wait 2 more days or will you test????

I'm definitely having some FPS... yesterday while I was doing a little retail therapy at lunch, I started sweating and feeling dizzy. I looked over at the woman next to me and asked her if she thought it was warm in here and she looked at my like I had horns growing out of my head. Then a little bit of nausea yesterday and this morning. Nothing major just kind of yuck.

Plus, and this is something that I recalled from the first BFP, my skin is kind of crawling and my scalp is a little tingley. Almost is if I'm having a minor allergic reaction to something.

I don't really think I am, it's just more fun when there's a little drama in my 2WW. :D

[charliezangel]

MrsR I know about confusing cycles. i'm sorry you are going through this. hopefully the RE will have a clear answer for you soon

flygirl I cannot remember what my dr called it, but i am low on some sort of enzyme or something (i have to look it up). That is why i clot so easily. anytime i have the have my blood taken, they will stick me, get a good flow for about 3 seconds, and then i clot up and nothing comes out. giving blood (for medical purposes only now sice i have such a problem) takes about 3 sticks just to fill a vial half way. It's very painfull and annoying. So I am used to seeing clots during my period. usually they are not too bad. I have had some, like i mentioned before, that will literally push my tampon out, but that doesn't happen often

[MrsR]

flygirl and jjsanner -- thanks guys, I think it was probably a chemical pregnancy too as my uterine lining was so thin last month from the clomid (which is why we did not bother doing an IUI)

tealynn and charliezangel -- thanks guys, I will keep you posted . . .

MrsPell and MrsKinnison -- thanks for the positive thoughts -- I need them:)

Well still no call about the blood work and the mysterious "faint" positive pregnancy test. I am thinking it was a chem pregnancy since the RE said implantation would be difficult with such a thin uterine lining. I have gotten my clomid which I will be starting on Friday and need to go pick up my script for the estrogen which I will start taking on CD 10. I was also told to not use the CBEFM this month and just use OPKs starting on CD 12 around 12-4 each day. The NP says she does not like the CBEFM . . . well, I did get 1 year out of it and it has not worked yet so maybe change will be good this cycle :rolleyes: . . .

[honeygirl]

MrsR - Sorry to hear about your very confusing cycle. I hope that the dr has news for you ASAP!

I am having lots of FPS. I imagine that they could be increased by the progesterone that I take. I'm munching on saltines right now b/c I am nauseous. For the last couple of days I've had nausea mixed with intense hunger. Weird. I also have a lower backache and tender bbs. To top it off I am SO TIRED and gassy (burping lots more). Ah, the joys of being a woman in the 2ww. I'd like to think that these blessed symptoms mean I'm pregnant, but I'm trying to be realistic. I wish I could test tomorrow! (I'm only 8DPO).

[j*east]

I don't really think I am, it's just more fun when there's a little drama in my 2WW.

Tealynn, this cracked me up. :) I hope the drama means something! The skin-crawling sounds especially odd.

MrsR, I hope you find out what's going on soon. A chem. pgcy does seem the most likely explanation, but still...ugh! How weird to be "a little" PG and not have answers yet. I'm sending good vibes and I hope you're doing okay.

ABirney and MrsK, good luck with Oing and BDing. :)

Chris~n~Jen and jessied, I hope your 2WW is going well. I'll be testing around the same time! :eek:

charliezangel, I hope you're feeling better. On to the next cycle, right?

flygirl, thanks for your thoughts on variable waking times. For now I'm leaving it, but I might get more creative later. I do keep a paper chart as well as FF, but I can't use Ovusoft on my Mac (or at least I don't think so). I'll set a new default time for next cycle and try to stick to it.

MrsP, I hope you're dry! Did the rain stop? Stay safe and dry.

honeygirl, your chart looks pretty so far! I hope your symptoms lead to a BFP. :)

Me...temps are up, and even with FAM on FF I've officially ovulated. Yay ovaries! I'm so excited to see confirmation. I really really hope this is our cycle b/c we'll be apart next cycle during my fertile time. :( But just knowing that at least I'm ovulating is a relief. I'll be out of town until Sunday and might take an early test then (11 DPO, or Monday is 12). We'll see. My temps were high into AF this month so I'm not sure they'll be trustworthy.

Good luck everyone! :)

[MrsR]

Well ladies, I got the call from the RE and I am not PG. They said it could have been a bad test . . . oh, well, I am off to go pick up my RX for estrace and drown my sorrows in a beer;) . . .

[j*east]

MrsR, at least you know now, but that still sounds so frustrating. Have a good night and enjoy the beer! :)

[mrs_pell]

Oh my goodness! I'm gone for a day and don't have a TON of posts between my last one and this one???

MrsK ~ Hopefully that O comes soon! Have fun BDing in the meantime! Do you normally get a temp dip the day of O? If so, looks like it could be today.

ABirney ~ Definitely nice to see that EWCM sooner in your cycle, after an 85 day cycle, huh? Hopefully your O is on the way too!

FlyGirl ~ Yeah, it's frustrating! So, you don't even think that my dip yesterday meant anything? Even with the rise in temp this morning I was thinking AF was imminent b/c of that stupid drop yesterday.

MrsR ~ Weird about the "faint" positive today. I'm glad you finally got the answer, though, so you can move on with the RE and clomid. Enjoy that beer!!!

Tealynn ~ I so love your attitude!!!! You're so positive all the time, and I love it. So, Thanks!! I hope your symptoms are real and not just some good drama. :) And, yes, I'll wait 2 more days to test. 2 out of my 3 cycles charting have been 16 day LPs, so I'll at least wait till then.

Honeygirl ~ Those definitely sound like some serious PG symptoms! Don't you just love, though, how we never used to have any of those symptoms *until* we started TTC and then it seems like we have them every month? I hope yours are for real this month! And, 8dpo *could* get a BFP! ;)

j*east ~ I have to tell you...this cracked me up...
MrsP, I hope you're dry!

Holy crap...before I read the rest of that quote I was thinking, "whaaaaat? What a weird thing to say!" I guess I've been in the TTC mode too much when I automatically start thinking about CM! :o But, now it's making me laugh! :) And yes, the rain has stopped for now thankfully!! Thanks for being concerned about my "dryness!" :D

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I'm definitely not sure about what's going on with my temps. Went back up this morning, and no sign of AF. I do have a sore throat today, so I'm wondering if that's why my temp went back up. As for other symptoms, I really haven't had any. I was going pee a LOT today, but then I realized that was probably from the 80 oz of water I drank today! My boobs are a little sore, but nothing more than normal pre-AF. I did almost cry over a comercial the other day, but that's not *totally* out of the ordinary for me, and it was a really GOOD one! ;) So, it's just a wait and see game now. All I know is it would be VERY nice if we would get PG in the next few months, because Mark is probably going to be starting a cullinary program in Sept/Oct that will be 5 nights a week from 6-11pm. Not very convenient for making babies.

[ABirney]

Hi ladies!
MrsR how weird about the test at the Dr's.. glad to see they got it figured out though... and good luck on the meds this cycle.
tealynn and honeygirl Hope those FPS's turn out to be real!
j*east Yay for O'ing!
MrsPell not sure what to make of your temps... Hope your sore throat gets better soon though!

Even more EWCM here today... definitely glad my body seems to be on the track to working order again on the meds! Those long annov cycles sucked!

[mrs_pell]

So, while watching the Astros lose again, I was going through all the graduates' charts. There are definitely some charts there with pretty significant dips (below CL) before getting a BFP. So, not giving up hope yet. :)

[honeygirl]

Hang in there mrs_pell! I'll admit to chart stalking too! Actually I've spent some time on the ovusoft cycle gallery today looking for hope (since my temp isn't going up up up yet). It's still early though. Here's hoping that we both get higher temps tomorrow morning!

ps - when are you testing?

[j*east]

One more post before we leave for a long weekend...I'm trying to give myself a few days off from CC to spend time with DH, but it will be hard! :p

ABirney, yay for you! I hope Oing is close. Anov. cycles (esp. 85 days! yuck!) are so frustrating.

honeygirl and mrs_pell, can I join the FPS club? I felt seriously nauseous this morning, but it was too late to test. I'm only 7DPO so actually it's too early to test, but you know what I mean. I'm keeping my fingers crossed...it would be so cool to get BFP's together!

Oh, and mrs_pell, I'm glad you're dry. :) I knew someone would misinterpret that!

Me...so scared to even post about FPS, but since I won't be back for a few days I know I'll have less drama over the weekend, so why not be dramatic now? ;) Feeling very strange and nauseous this morning, on the way to the gym and after. DH and I were walking to the gym (1/2 mile away) and I felt like I was inhaling car fumes even though we were walking on campus (we live at a school) and a good 100 feet away from the road. Weird. I got through my workout okay though.

Good luck, everyone! Happy BDing, waiting, testing, and waiting!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here.

[cowgirl]

Sorry no time for shot outs since there are so many.

I just have not felt much like posting latly but have been lurking along. Well still no AF and I have had 3 postive OPK's but dh has not been up to BDing. (hoping he will tonight.) I have had some cramping so hopefully I will be oing soon.

[tealynn]

Cowgirl, you must be miserable! I'm so sorry you're dealing w/ annov cycles! But you're staying strong...that's what matters and I'm sending some good "O" vibes your way. Maybe if you do something a little different, candles, music, whatever, your hubby might be convinced to BD tonight!

Mrs. Pell, I forget that your time zone is about an hour behind mine I've been waiting for your temp today!!

Gymwidow, your chart is looking good. Your about 11DPO right? What's your longest LP and when will you be testing?????

Abirney, I noticed that you're still listed in waiting to O but I think you'll be testing in the next week or so right? Hopefully our lovely thread mistress can update you next time she's here.

J*east, ChrisnJen, JessieD, looks like were test buddies! Good luck to us.

Gotta run to a meeting, be back later to check in.

[gymwidow]

MrsR, lots of hugs to you. What an awful up-and-down roller coaster ride you had this week!

tealynn, thanks, it is nice and pretty isn't it? ;) My LPs are typically really short, even while taking progesterone supps, and this is already the longest one I've had in a while (I think my longest has been a prog.-supported 14 days). I'm trying to wait till Sunday to test because I had a trigger shot this month and I want to make sure all the HCG is out of me before testing so I don't get a false positive. I'll go for b/w on Monday to confirm either a + or -.


I am quite happy to report that since starting the Crinone last Wednesday night I've had no visits at all from Spot. :D Thank goodness. The only FPS I have are mild-to-medium cramps off and on during the days. But that's not abnormal for me, so I'm trying not to read into them. I have no other symptoms at all. I'm getting really anxious to test. I really want this to be it. If it's not, I have to have a saline u/s and then start all the pre-IVF testing next cycle. I would definitely like to avoid all of that!

BTW, for anyone who has to take progesterone supplements, I HIGHLY recommend Crinone. It's a gel applied via an applicator tube (like a tampon) and gets absorbed directly into the vaginal walls - no pill to dissolve first. I hardly need a pantiliner with it and have practically none of the nasty discharge that the Prometrium creates.

Have a good day everyone!

[Sunshine]

MrsR~I'm sorry:( Hugs

mrs_pell~Not sure about the temps, but Congrats to your husband! That sounds great! Is your husband the cook of the house too? (Mine is, I'm a little spoiled:p I hardly Ever have to cook:D)
Good Luck!

j*east~Have a GREAT TIME! I hope you dont go through CC withdrawals;)

cowgirl~:( Hoping DH will be more co-operative for you tonight...I hate that when I have to COnvince my DH to BD....like WTF?!?! LMAO!

gymwidow~Good Luck to you!!!!!


~nothing to report here.....

[Pootle]

Hey ladies. I've lurked for a while, so now I am outing myself.

CC Name:Pootle
Me: 27
DH: 27
Married since: 12/31/2005
Off BCP since: 1/23/06
TTC since: 6/1/06
Charting since: 1/23/06
Known issues/test results:None that I know of
Chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/11075d
Current status: waiting to O - I think. CD2

I have had 4 cycles since coming off the pill.

#1 was textbook perfect - 31 days.
#2 was 68 days, but my temps showed I did ovulate.
#3 was 51 days, but my temps didn't show any ovulation.
#4 just started, I think. I have had very light bleeding. It has gone on for a few days so i don't think it is spotting, but it is unlike any period I've ever had.

I have been using OPK's pretty unregularly and have never seen a +. I have been using a ferning microscope, but I always seem to get a full ferning pattern. I did get a free fertility monitor so I will try that this cycle. But I'm not expecting too much as my body seems incapable of developing a pattern.

[honeygirl]

Welcome Pootle. I had some irregular cycles after going off BCPs also, it seemed to get worse before it got better. ;) I hope that you have a better cycle this time!

Also, what is a ferning microscope?

[Pootle]

Honeygirl, thanks for the encouraging words. I really need them right now.

The ferning microscope uses a saliva sample. When you are approaching ovulation, you should see a pattern that resembles ferns. When you aren't close to ovulation, you shouldn't see ferns, more lines and empty space. I'm not sure it is very reliable though becasie i see the ferning pattern all the time.

[Baby Lust]

Pootle, I could see the ferning pattern all the time as well, and I wasn't even ovulating on my own. Friends of mine suggested I only use it closer to when I should be O'ing just so I didn't get confused. Needless to say, I stopped using it and went for the OPKs. :rolleyes: Just my experience! Good luck!

[honeygirl]

Interesting about the ferning microscope. For some reason I thought that the microscope slides (I've seen here and there) were of CM, not saliva. Learn something new everyday. :)

Quick question: Are nosebleeds a pregnancy or FP symptom? I've had one the last couple of days on and off, which is unusual for me. Just wondering.......

[MrsKinnison]

Welcome Pootle!

[Sherb]

Quick question: Are nosebleeds a pregnancy or FP symptom? I've had one the last couple of days on and off, which is unusual for me. Just wondering.......

Yep. I remember from lurking in the October Moms ( I think that was it) thread that a lot of the moms to be were getting nosebleeds.

[jodylovesscotty]

Just wanted to say:

Welcome to all the new members. This is defintely a place of great expertise and caring women!

To all those that AF found; she sucks:mad: and I am sorry.

Hope to see a new round of BFP's soon:)


I am still plugging along. My temps seem to have gone back to normal and I actually had EWCM yesterday. However I am still getting negative OPK's. I don't know whether I will O around the same time I did pre m/c and clomid or not. We just keep BDing every other day and hoping for the best. We have our RE appointment on Monday, so I am anxious to hear what he has to say. Our friends recommended him and they and 2 of their friends got pregnant right away with him. They say he has a horrible bed side manner and is definitely to the point, but that is all I am looking for. I keep telling my DH that if we got pregnant in July it could be my birthday present, and of course he is all for not buying me anything, lol:)

[Sunshine]

Welcome Pootle!

Sounds like a great birthday present to me jodylovesscotty!

[Sneak]

welcome pootle. This is such a great, knowledgeable group of ladies! I have already learned so much!

threadmistress, sorry to cause you more work but could you update my age to 26 on the first page?

[tealynn]

Honeygirl What Sherb said! Nosebleeds are definitely a sign of being PG, also bleeding gums and I think spelling mistakes (took me 5 times to spell definitely right, it's looking good for me!! but I think that's much later in the process;) )

Welcome Pootle! Hope your stay is short & sweet!

Thanks for the info Baby Lust and Congrats, I see you've changed your avatar. Maybe next time to stop in you can leave us w/ loads of babydust!

Hi to Sneak, Sunshine, JodyLovesScotty and Mrs. Kinnison Sorry if I missed anyway...

[tealynn]

Just came across an interesting article which claims that stress can cause infertility/anovulatory cycles and that behavioral therapy can reverse infertility . . . veddy interesting.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060620/hl_afp/healthfertilitywomen

[ChicagoKate]

Welcome Pootle! Are you by chance the "Queen of the Penguins"? I have also been known as 2JDs. Shhhhhhh. . don't tell I'm a two-timer! I hope you are able to figure out what's going on with your crazy long cycles. Are you going to see your MD about them? That would really drive me CRAZY!

Good luck at the RE, JodylovesScotty. I hope he's able to give you some answers.

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Nothing exciting to report for me. Using the fertility monitor and still getting high readings. I don't expect a Peak reading until next week at the earliest.

[mrs_pell]

UGH...temp dropped again this morning and spot just decided to show. So, I'm guessing AF will be here later this evening. *(*&%*#() The perfect ending to an already crappy day.

Sorry, no time for real SOs, but I did wanna say welcome to Pootle!! Hope your stay here is SHORT! :)

eta: Sorry to leave ya hanging this morning tealynn, but our computers were all whacked out at work today so I couldn't get on in the morning, and by the time I could later in the day, I'd forgotten the exact temp! Oops.

[honeygirl]

Sorry mrs_pell, especially to hear that it is on top of an already crappy day. :( Do you by chance have some ice-cream at home? Tell DH you need a back-rub and a big hug.

[pocahontas]

Pocohontas,this is from Miaclear's post dated 6-11-06

"Been doing some research and this quote seemed to sum it up the most, Evening Primrose Oil - helps to increase fertile quality cervical fluid and also...

http://www.babyhopes.com/articles/herbs.html"



I don't really think I am, it's just more fun when there's a little drama in my 2WW. :DTealynn...your dramas are too cute! Figures you'd totally be a fellow Taurus. ;) (And I don't know why I never noticed before that you only live an hour away from me!)

[PugLover]

Hello! This is my first post on these boards! I am a former WCer from way back in the day and was on the Charting to Avoid thread then. I am now finally TTCing and wanted to be a part of the TTC with charting thread. :) So, here I am!

CC Name:Pug Lover
Me: Julie - 26
DH: Josh - 28
Married since: 4/20/02
Off BCP since: was only on it for maybe 4 months when I was first married
TTC since: June '06
Charting since: June '03
Known issues/test results: none yet! First TTC Cycle!
Chart: My Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/25e5a)
Current status: waiting to O (for the first time!)


This is our first time trying, as in, this is my first cycle trying! I am just waiting on O!!!

[ABirney]

Hi ladies!
Welcome Puglover and pootle! Hope your stays are short and sweet.
j*east and honeygirl hope it's FPS's!
cowgirl hope you convince DH to BD and catch that egg!
tealynn I'm still waiting to O (hopefully in the next couple days!) But thanks for looking out for me! :)
gymwidow I sure hope this is your month and you don't have to move on to IVF! Yay for no spotting!
jodylovesscotty Good luck at your RE appt! Hopefully he'll get some things figured out.
MrsPell sorry spot showed.
Sorry to anyone I missed!

Still having EWCM here, 6" stretch yesterday and today so BD'd past couple days. Hopefully I'll O in the next day or two. I hope Saturday isn't a critical temp because I won't be able to temp... am walking in the Relay for Life Fri night all night till 6am Sat. So we'll see what happens.

[Pootle]

ChicagoKate,

I am Queen of the Penguins! I saw my ob/gyn last week and she didn't seem to think the long cycle (#2) was too crazy as my temps seemed to indicate that I ovulated. Since my appointment, cycle 3 ended without ovulation. I called my doc and she said to give it one more cycle, but if it isn't over in 45 days then I will go back to see her. I think that is August 3rd. So I'm back to the waiting game.

[ChicagoKate]

Pootle ~ That sounds like a good plan w/ your MD. I am sure you are going crazy with the long cycles and now the annovulatory cycle. Hopefully your bosy will figure things out this cycle! Lots of dust for you!

[gymwidow]

Hey guys, sorry for no SO's today. I'm just not in the mood. I started spotting again this morning, at 11DPO, while taking the progesterone, and am pretty upset by it. I've emailed my RE to set up an appt tomorrow - I asked for a blood pregnancy test (just to be sure) and another u/s to see what my lining looks like. I also want to speak with him about scheduling the saline u/s and starting pre-IVF testing. My hope for the next cycle is to stay med-free, but continue with monitoring to see if I manage to O again on my own. I'll ask him about all of this.

Hugs to all and welcome to our new members.

[Chris~n~Jen]

Hi girls! Sorry I haven't been around much.

Welcome to Pootle & PugLover!
Sorry for those with AF visiting. :mad:
Good luck to those trying to catch the eggie and testing. :)

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According to FF I'm 7DPO. I had a pretty good temp spike this morning. Finally made it over 98 degrees. :rolleyes: I also woke up starving. I mean my stomach was growling and everything. So let the FPS begin......

[ABirney]

Good morning all!
Pootle good luck with the Dr, hopefully you can get your cycles straightened out.
gymwidow {{HUGS}} so sorry about the spotting.
chris-n-jen Hope that temp keeps going up and the FPS's keep coming!

[pride&prejudice]

Threadmistress, can you move me to waiting to O, AF showed today. Also, both of our ages should be 27 now. Thanks
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sorry no SOs, but hi to all the newcomers and boo to AF for those who showed. I'm in just such a crappy mood right now. Now I realize why I had gone on the pill in the first place, I hate the cramps and everything. :(

[Sunshine]

Welcome PugLover!~

I'm so sorry AF showed pride&prejudice:( :mad:


Threadmistress, I forgot to post an update......Can you move me to "I think I O'd", testing July 2nd. THANK YOU!

[jessied1025]

Hey girls!!

No time for lots of so's. But wanted to send some (((HUGS))) to gymwidow. I am so sorry to hear that you are spotting. Hang in there.

As for me: 10DPO...my temp dropped some this morning and I have a little bit of spotting. Only noticible when I wipe. I feel a bit crampy as well. My bb's hurt, but it is probably because I am always poking at them! I don't think it is looking very promissing this month. :(

Good luck to everyone testing or trying to catch the eggie.

Sorry if AF found you.

Welcome to all newbies!!

[honeygirl]

My bb's hurt, but it is probably because I am always poking at them!

I do this too! I notice this time of the month I seem to be grabbing myself. LOL!

10DPO and I did a POAS this morning from the dollar store. I am pretty sure that it is negative, but I'm not sure how to read it. I heard other ladies say that in the past and I always wondered how difficult it can be to look for 2 lines? However, these cheepie tests aren't that simple IMO. I looked online for sample results, but couldn't find this brand. Oh well. I'll just assume that it is (-) and try again this weekend.

[MrsKinnison]

Welcome PugLover!!

Sorry about the spotting gymwidow, but don't give up hope yet. Don't a lot of women spot before a bfp and during the first couple of weeks of pg?

As for me, I had a couple drinks on an empty stomach that went straight to my head, then slept really restlessy so needless to say today's temp had to be discarded. {note to self...don't do that again} I only had 2.5 drinks, and I had to have DH come get me! Either way, I'm still almost 100% positive I am 2dpo.

[miaclear]

General "best of luck to you wherever you are in your cycle" to everyone.

MrsKinnison...I always seem to mess up my temps right around O with drinking. They always just seem to fall on days when I'm supposed to be a lush. Oy.

Myself...I was expecting to O today but my temp was low again. However I am SO PLEASED to announce that just a few min ago on a trip to the bathroom I had the most real EWCM that I've ever had. We BDd last night also so I think I'll cover my tracks and do it again tonight. Hopefully tomorrow I'll get a high temp. My OPKs haven't announced anything yet but they are the cheapies. I'm not reading much into it and will likely not buy them again.

[cowgirl]

Gymwidow:Hugs So sorry you are spotting again. ugh. Sounds like you have a good plan in mind.
Welcome pootle and pug lover!
Jody:That would be a great B-day present. Good luck with the RE.

Sorry to all I missed. Well I received cross hairs again but think it may be a day to early as I got a postive OPK the next day. It would be better as far as BDing goes. Fingers crossed this is it.

I was pretty depressed the last day or so. We have had two people come into were I work both 19 - 20 and both have had babies in the last few months just really brought me down. (thinking why can't I have that.)

[stevesbabygirl]

Threadmistress, could you please update my age to 27? Thanks!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here.

Welcome Pootle & Pug Lover!

[Chris~n~Jen]

My left hand has been numb and tingly off and on since yesterday. Also my left eye keeps twitching. Are those preggo syptoms?

[pride&prejudice]

gymwidow~ Sorry to hear about the spotting, hoepfully it clears up.

Jody~ That would definitely be something that I would like, a BFP for a birthday gift!

Thanks Sunshine, I honestly didn't know how much it would hurt and how I would hate seeing AF. It just makes being positive more difficult, although I'm just crabby becuase of AF. I hope you have a good test coming up. :)

[Sunshine]

pride&prejudice~I really didnt know how much it hurts until it happened for me the first time. Last month was SO TERRIBLE for me. I really took it hard. I hope the more time that passes, the easier it gets.:rolleyes: ETA: And THANKS:D

[Baby Lust]

Jen, I have not heard of those things being PPS but if you need something to obsess about.. by all means! :D



~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * BABY DUST * ~ * ~ *~ * ~

[Soulmate]

honeygirl Here is a pic of my BFPs with dollar store tests.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y141/twinkiestuff/MyBFPs.jpg

These were back from 9/04 though. I used the tests again after that and they seemed to show a little more of an evap line than the ones I used in 9/04. Though mine were very light it was an honest to goodness pregnancy. Also, bloody noses are very much a preggo sign.

[honeygirl]

Ladies I am swimming in PPS (or FPS) symptoms. Earlier today I about threw up (had to walk down the hall) when my co-worker was eating soup. I also burst into tears this morning b/c my DH didn't like my outfit. Nevermind my increased level of gas (burp city), nosebleeds and fatigue. I will be SO BUMMED if these are symptoms due to my progesterone and not a pregnancy! Time will tell.

Soulmate, thanks for the photos. My dollar store test looks more like an internet strip. I found some galleries on FF with photos. Funny thing though, I lost my strip so I can't compare it (just going from memory). I lost it in my car, I had put in on the dashboard briefly while getting in (it had been in my pocket b/c DH came in when I was looking at it) and it slipped behind the dashboard. Kind of funny really. I'll try again tomorrow am, it's still early yet (10DPO today).

[PugLover]

Wow, this thread moves fast! I cannot check at work unfortunately so there are pages of posts by the time I get home!

I think I Oed today. I always get a temp drop usually the day I O and get a temp rise a day or two later...although my CM does not correspond. I usually always get EWCM so maybe not...anyway we DTD today just in case. ;)

[SweetRed]

Catching... my... breath...

Can't... keep... up...

Holy guacamole, it moves fast in here!!! :eek: I think I'm going to have to cop out from SO's too. But I feel some excitement building to some BFP's!!! :D

Nothing going on here. AF just left the building and if the past in any indication, we have a while to wait before the excitement picks up again ;)

My Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/128004)

[ABirney]

I'm on my way to work in a minute so no time for s/o's, but I'm so confused! I was expecting a temp rise this am because my CM was drying up yesterday and I thought I O'd... but no, it stayed the same temp as yesterday. I won't be able to temp tomorrow am because I'm doing Relay tonight... I guess I'll just have to wait and see what Sunday brings. I hope it's just a delayed temp rise and my body didn't decide to not ovulate after all.... :mad:

[pride&prejudice]

honeygirl~ Crossing my fingers for you!
Puglover~ Me too! ;) And of course those of the times when DH is tired, doens't he realize what I trying to do here. hehe
Sweet Red~I have prob's keeping up too. I check it at night, and by then its a few pages longer!
Abriney~ I hope it works out and is just a delayed temp. I have no other adivce, b/c I'm still sort of learning. Hope it works out!

[tealynn]

ChrisnJen, um, those sound like symptoms of a heart attack, dear. I hope you're okay! (kidding of course)

Abirney, I should probably mind my own chart, hmm? I noticed what I thought were cross hairs in yours but I'm not that familiar w/ Ovusoft.

Gymwidow, sorry about the spotting that freaking sucks! Your chart was looking so good. At least you know what to expect next so you can *mentally* move on to the next cycle.

Cowgirl, thank goodness for the cross hairs and for a +OPK! I think you covered your bases pretty well!

Honeygirl, I don't know that much about progesterone supplements but if you're throwing up, I'd say that's a real good sign of pregnancy!:eek:

JessieD, I noticed your temp went back up today!!! That's awesome. We'll see what the weekend brings.

Pocohontas, the drama makes it ever so much more exciting. It's amazing the power our minds have over our bodies. Where in MD are you?

Welcome Puglover, Sorry to those who had a visit from AF and good luck to those testing!

My temp dropped today, I think I'm 7 DPO and I'm feeling kind of crampy. My BB's don't hurt though, and that's usually a sign of AF. I did "quietly" have a little cry at my desk yesterday because some A-hole that I work with sent me a mean email. Although, I reread it today and it seems fine so I'm thinking I might be a *little* on the emotional side. Either way, it's too early to tell so I'll just keep analyzing every little thing my body does!

[kanga1622]

Whew...that was a lot of information to take in. Y'all were busy over the last 3 days.

Good luck MrsR. Hope you next cycle brings you a BFP!

Welcome Pootle and PugLover. Hope your stays are short and sweet.

Updates: I am now 26 and I can be moved to Think I O'ed testing July 2.

Vacation was wonderful but tiring. I should have taken the day off today to do laundry, spend some time with the pup, and gotten a little more sleep. Luckily I O'ed right before we left and we had good BD timing so I'm keeping my fingers crossed this month. If we got pg this cycle, we'd be due right around DH's birthday.

[Janey]

DeLurking to say that Honeygirl I am crossing my fingers for you! Come ONNNNN nosebleeds!!

[jessied1025]

Original post from Tealyn:
JessieD, I noticed your temp went back up today!!! That's awesome. We'll see what the weekend brings.


I attribute my jump in temp to the 3 beers I had after my softball game last night. This morning I was still spotting and it was a bit heavier and brighter red color. I am still not getting my hopes up.

[honeygirl]

DeLurking to say that Honeygirl I am crossing my fingers for you! Come ONNNNN nosebleeds!!

Thanks MrsHill, tealynn and pride&prejudice! I am SO hoping that we are pregnant, you don't even know! DH was even saying last night that he hopes we are (he started out reluctant with TTC but is on board now). I should wait to test till I'm farther along, I'm just making myself crazy. I did 2 more cheepie tests this am and if I squint REALLY hard I think I can imagine the faintest line you ever did see on one of them. However, it could just be my mind playing tricks on me. My temp did go up again this morning, so I still have hope. I am going to try to wait until Sunday to test again. Darn those $ store tests!!!!!

Tealynn, I didn't actually throw up, but boy did I want to. I've had about 2 times that I could feel myself starting to throw up (but didn't) and a bunch of other times that my stomach felt queezy.

[miaclear]

Last night DH was saying how although he's not completely turned off by temping and charting and talking about BDing at certain times it's not that exciting for him. Me either truthfully but I know there are just those few magical days to get pg so what else are we supposed to do? If this isn't our cycle I'm going to stop temping (planned to take a break anyway from temping) but I'm also going to just stop talking about getting pg. Which means I'll likely stop coming in here.....at least on a daily basis :D

Now that we're ready for a surprise baby that's exactly what we want.

Another thing....DH said the pre-seed kinda numbed him. Anyone elses DH say this?

[ChicagoKate]

Miaclear ~ I haven't heard about that side effect with pre-seed. I honestly don't even tell DH when I use it (which is very rarely anyway). Actually, I don't tell him when it's BD time either. I just let him think that he is so hot, and I am so bothered, that I just want it all the time (which is basically true).

Good luck to all those testing and trying to catch that egg this weekend!

[pocahontas]

Pocohontas, the drama makes it ever so much more exciting. It's amazing the power our minds have over our bodies. Where in MD are you?

Baltimore!

[gymwidow]

Drive by posting b/c I have to leave for my acupuncture appt in 10 minutes, but I wanted to give you guys an update:

By Thursday afternoon the spotting had turned into AF. I was actually okay with it, no tears or anything. Yesterday DH and I met with my doctor and we talked about what steps to take next. The doc said we are welcome to move to IVF if we want, but that he thinks we can still give the injectables another 2-3 shots (haha) first. I only did one cycle of injectables and I way overstimulated on them, which might have affected my body and its ability to do the right thing. With another injectables cycle, we would lower my dose so I would respond more normally and hopefully have a better shot. He still isn't too concerned with the length of my LP - they typically average at least 10-12 days, which is generally long enough. He said that taking the drugs I take (Clomid, Gonal-F) can sometimes shorten an LP.

DH and I talked for a few minutes about it and we decided to go ahead with injectables/IUI at least 2 more times. While our chances are obviously greater with IVF, we don't want to move forward to something so invasive (and costly) until we absolutely have to.

So, since we were there yesterday and it was CD2, I went ahead and had my CD3 b/w and u/s done so we could get started. My ovaries were clear this month = no cysts! My progesterone was still a little high, though, so I was told to wait till tonight to start the Gonal-F shots. I'm starting at half the dose I was on last time = 75mg, so hopefully no overstimulation this time!

Oh, and we are going to go ahead with the saline u/s on Monday, just to double check my uterus and make sure there's nothing else in there that might be causing the bleeding or any troubles. DH can't get off from work for that, so my mom will go with me and hold my hand (I'm a little worried about pain since my HSG hurt so damn much).

That's it for now. I'm off to get a dozen needles stuck in me! ;)

[ABirney]

Hi ladies! I'll try to catch up but sorry if I miss anyone....
pride&prejudice sorry AF found you.
sunshine, puglover, and kanga yay for O'ing! Hope you caught your eggs.
jessied hope the spotting goes away.
honeygirl things look promising! Hope you get a BFP soon!
miaclear yay for good EWCM!
cowgirl hope you O soon!
tealynn hope you get a BFP soon too! And no worries about the crosshair thing on my chart... ovusoft gives you a cover line as soon as you enter 6 temps.
gymwidow sorry AF found you, but it sounds like you have a good plan of action for the next couple (hopefully you only need 1...) cycles. Hope things go better on the smaller dose!

Well I'm pretty sure I O'd.. just based on CM and CP... no temps yet to confirm because I was up all night so couldn't temp. (walking around a track from 6pm-6am in rainy weather might not give me an accurate temp, huh? LOL!) I'll wait until I have temp confirmation before I switch categories though.

[j*east]

Hi all...DH and I are still away, but I needed some down time so I'm back on CC while he's catching up with a childhood friend. :) I'm 10 DPO and I've had some nice high temps...yippee! (Not that I know what's really hig for me, as this is my first month charting.) Will start testing soon, but not sure when. I feel really optimistic now and I'd hate to ruin that with a BFN. Not really any FPS...a little nausea, mild cramping, mildly sore bb's, but nothing that out of the ordinary. Oh, and if I switch from advanced to FAM in FF it says I O'ed CD17. Which would still be okay, but I think CD14 is more accurate based on CM.

ABirney, that's so cool you did Relay for Life. I've been looking at your charts and it looks like you've had some long cycles. That must be tough. Good for you for being patient with yourself. I hope you have O confirmation soon.

gymwidow, goodness, a lot is going on for you. First, I hope the acupuncture went well. It sounds like things are looking good for the injectables/IUI. I hope the lowered dose works well, with fewer side effects. I'm thinking good thoughts for you, esp. for the saline U/S to come back clear of obstacles (not sure what I'm talking about here) and not to be too painful.

miaclear, my DH has no complaints about the Pre-Seed. ?? I hear you on the charting vs. letting things happen conundrum. Charting and trying to get PG ASAP is just what's best for us. I recently read though that 80-85% of women will conceive in a year through unprotected sex...so if you have the time, it probably will work eventually.

honeygirl, I really hope this is it for you! In a few days maybe you'll get a test you won't need to squint at. I hope the queasiness and nosebleeds are good signs. Otherwise, they definitely don't sound like much fun! When I've been feeling nauseous, I tell DH, and he says, "Good!" I'd like a little sympathy, at least!

jessied1025, I hope your spotting goes away soon! Your temps still look good. But I hear you on not wanting to get too hopeful...it's a tricky balance.

kanga1622, I hope you're caught up now after your vacation. I'll be testing right before you. Good luck getting through the 2WW!

tealynn, nothing like some drama in the 2WW...hope you're feeling better about the nasty email! I get sensitive about stuff like that too, even when I'm not TTC.

I just have to stop! But good luck to everyone, and sorry to those who are starting over again at CD1.

[polkadot]

hey girls....i am back from vaction and it was great....i have not temped and i refuse too :D

We will get B's SA results on Tuesday instead of Wednesday they moved his appt up :D So we will see where we go from there...we had a good talk about TTC and we have decided to see what happens with the SA results...and ask the urologist thinks...

We will probably see what the SA results are...if they are semi-OK and there is a chance that we can get PG ...i will call the doc and get him to renew my Rx for the Clomid...if they are bad...we will just keep on trying au natural and after the surgery get back on the clomid...

so thats where we are...on an TTC vacation....and I am liking it...;)

[Jess71903]

Hi girls! There is no way to catch up on a week, so I will just start back up tomorrow...forgive me if I ask questions about stuff that's already been talked about!

Our vacation to St. Croix was amazing! The island is beautiful and very relaxed! Just what we needed. I have found that I love to snorkel! AF showed up Wed., which dampened things a little, but it was a little easier to take since we were having so much fun. We flew out yesterday (Fri) afternoon to Miami, where we were SUPPOSED to get on a connecting flight to Memphis and be there by about 9:30pm. The flight got canceled, so American put us up in Miami for the night and gave us tickets for Delta at 7am the next morning to Cincinnati then Memphis. Checked in at 5:30am with Delta just for them to tell us that American didn't confirm seats and we were on standby and since the cruise ships were in, there was no way we were getting on that plane. I was FURIOUS and went to tell American about it. They got us on a plane at 9:40 to Dallas and then Memphis. I about cried in the airport every time we had to talk to somebody and I am sure AF had something to do with it! After all that we had to drive 3 hours back home and just got here.

Anyway, I am delirious and can't spell, so I am going to log off. I will be calling my Dr. this week so see if we can do some testing.

[Jess71903]

oops, Threadmistress, please move me to "waiting to O" Thanks!

[Sherb]

Threadmistress, please move me to "I think I O'd, Testing 7/3 -7/9

My thermometer battery died about five days into this cycle and I haven't bothered to replace it yet. However, I tend to have pretty regular and I should be getting (or not) AF by the Fourth. I'm not too optimistic about this cycles chances because of the stress I've been under this month at my job. Sorta kills the mood, ya know? Anyway... Good luck to all the ladies testing soon.

[ABirney]

Hey ladies!
j*east your chart is looking good! Have you decided when your testing yet?
polkadot glad you had a nice relaxing vacation! Good luck with your DH's SA, but maybe a break will be what you guys needed.
jess welcome back from your vacation as well! Sorry AF showed though and you had so much trouble at the airport.
sherb yay for O'ing!

Well my temp was in my usual post-O range today so I'm going to go ahead and say threadmistress, please move me to "I think I O'd, testing around July 7". Although I have a feeling I won't need to test... not sure exact day of O but thinking CD22 or 23, last BD was on CD20, but we'll see what happens.

[MrsKinnison]

Threadmistress, can you move me to I think I O'd testing 7/2-7/9? Thanks!

j*east~ I agree with ABirney. Your chart looks great!

Jess~ Welcome back from your vacations ~ I'm sorry AF found you while you were away.

Polkadot~ Welcome back from vacation too. I hope you get good news on tuesday!!

miaclear~ DH didn't notice anything different with the preseed either. We both liked it.

Honeygirl~ Any news???

I know I'm missing some of you, but that's not because I'm not thinking of you!!

I am 5dpo today, and O'd right on schedule. I don't know what my problem is this month??? I am always so hopefully during the 2ww, but this time I'm not at all. I need to get out of my funk and think lots of positive things!!!

[pride&prejudice]

Threadmistress, can you move me to taking a break.

Its a long story, I don't feel like getting into it right now. I'll still be lurking and be around. :)

[honeygirl]

MrsKinnison, sending you some happy thoughts to get out of your funk.


Honeygirl~ Any news???


No. I'm 13DPO and still BFN on tests (answer & cheap strips). I guess I'm not pregnant and all those symptoms (which seem more mild today and yesterday) are due to the medication, not a baby. :( Tomorrow morning I have my biopsy, I've read that you shouldn't have one if you are pregnant b/c they cause misscarriage. Hopefully I'm not! I'm going to talk the dr about it first, and take one last test tomorrow am before I go in.

I'm not sad yet b/c I know I could still be pregnant, but I'm trying to face facts since I keep getting BFN, BFN, BFN.

[j*east]

Okay, I have a confession to make...I have been testing up a storm with dollar tests for at least 4 days (I'm 11 DPO now) and all are BFN! I know it's still early, so I'm semi-hopeful, but I don't know why my temps would be so high if nothing's going on in there. On the other hand...as this is my first cycle charting, I don't really know if they're high temps for me personally. I'll be switching to non-dollar tests in a day or two.

So, honeygirl, I feel some of your pain! I hope you get a BFP tomorrow. If not, I hope the biopsy goes okay.

polka, you sound cheerful and positive. I hope you hear good SA results this week.

Jess71903, I'm so glad you had a great vacation :), but sorry about AF and travel headaches. :( You really covered all bases this cycle--that must be disappointing.

ABirney and MrsK, thanks for the chart SO's! Keep your fingers crossed.

Sherb, sorry about the job stress this month. Maybe not temping wil help relieve some pressure?

pride&prejudice, I hope your break is restful. Come back anytime!

ETA: DH and I were joking, based on today's temp, that I'm either growing a fetus or...a virus. Maybe I just have a fever? :p

[risa00]

I see alot of people have web addresses to their charts on fertility friend. How do you make the chart public so others can see it? I would love to be able to put mine in my signature or something but can't figure it out. Thanks!

[Baby Lust]

j*east, I don't want to fuel your fire by any means, but my LP were always 10 or 11 days, never longer, and I tested - from 10DPO until 14DPO, when I finally got a BFP. AF was 3-4 days late but I was still testing -. So don't give up hope! Your chart looks great and your bases are totally covered!! :)

[ptcrn]

Just a quick post to update- I promise I'll do some SO's tomorrow! This thread just moves so fast that it seems too exhausting to think about trying to catch up!

I have been doing acupunture for about a month and a half now, and I feel like it may be finally working. My temps seem much more even this cycle and I actually had 2 days of EWCM for the first time! I'm so excited about that! It may have more to do with the evening primrose oil I took up until ovulation, but I think both have helped. I'm currently 3 DPO now and actually hopeful about our chances this month!

Threadmistress, can you move me to Think I O'd, testing 7/3 to 7/9? Thank you!!

[risa00]

Threadmistress, can you move me to Think I O'd, testing 7/3 to 7/9? Thanks! :)

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here.

[cowgirl]

risa00:To share your chart go to FF and bring up your chart then go to the sharing tab set up home page. Once you have your home page set up just copy the address and then you can post it here and in your sig.
Gymwidow:Sorry about AF Hope the lower dose helps.
Sorry to anyone else who AF showed for...

As for me AF showed up Sunday morning. I am thinking I will take a break from temping since we have that rip in April planned with family the timing would not work so well. From my 6 cycles only 1 shows a very clear O.

Good luck to the up coming testers.

[jessied1025]

Hi Ladies,

Don't have much time for s/o's.

AF showed on Sunday. :( I was spotting for a couple of days before so I knew that she was on her way. At least AF will be almost gone by the time we leave for Colorado on Wednesday.

DH and I discussed it and I am going to take a break from charting for a while. I still plann on using OPK's and checking my CM, but that is it. I am scheduled to see my OBGYN on the 11th of July and I will discuss with her our issues.

Threadmisstress: can you please move me to "taking a break"
I will definately continue to keep up with the thread!!

[Chris~n~Jen]

Sorry about AF gymwidow, jessied & anyone else. :(

I have really had a hard time posting in here this cycle. I'm still following along but just hard to keep up.

I'm on cd25, 11DPO. I feel a little crampy today, but nothing to bad. Usually when AF shows I know it almost right away because I get real hard cramps. So still keeping my fingers crossed that she stays away. If no AF by tomorrow then I may test. :confused: I only have 1 test left and its a CBE digital, so I'm trying to hold out. Other than last cycle (where my O date was questionable) I've never gone past 11DPO.

Something weird that happend this cycle was that I had some spotting 8DPO. I don't normally spot before AF, at all. I'm not even completely sure that is what it was. I wiped myself and there was definatly spots of blood there. I think I wiped about 5 times and each time there was spots. This was the only time that happened all day. At first I wondered if I had a small cut or something that was bleeding but I didn't feel any cuts. So not really sure what that's all about. Hoping it's good news.

So that's the update on me.

Keeping my fingers crossed for those trying to catch the eggie or about to test. :D

[Chelsea524]

Can I join?

CC Name: chelsea524
Me: Chelsea (23)
DH: Jonathan (34)
Married since: 9/4/02
Off BCP since: IUD out on 5/5/06
TTC since: 5/5/06
Charting since: 6/06
Known issues/test results:none
Chart: Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1914c)
Current status: What the bleep ..

I was planning on joining next cycle, but since this cycle seems to be never ending I have started charting, a little late to help for this month but at least I can get the hang of it until next cycle. The few temps that I have taken seem to be going down really fast so maybe I will get AF soon, who knows.

[Chris~n~Jen]

Welcome Chelsea! Hope you figure out what's going on with your cycle soon. :)

[ChicagoKate]

Chris~n~Jen -- Spotting at 8DPO could be implantation spotting. Fingers crossed for you!!

Welcome Chelsea! I hope your stay is short and sweet!

Hugs to all those who AF found over the weekend!

~~~~~~
Looks like I'm getting ready to O. The CBEFM gave me a Peak reading this morning. I'll have to seduce DH tonight!!! I just need to get through this week and then I'll be on VACATION!!!!

[kanga1622]

Welcome Chelsea.

Guys...I hate to say this but I may not be able to read or post much for the next couple months. Work is becoming very consuming so I don't have much chance to even read along. I'll be sure to make time to post if I get a BFP and will continue charting if I don't, but I won't be around much since I don't have internet at home. I'll miss you guys but I'll try to post once every couple of weeks so hopefully I can see all the new BFP updates.

[tealynn]

Chicago Kate, yay for vacation! We're headed to the beach for a week on Friday also! The only problem is that if I find out that I am PG, this crowd is not going to accept my not drinking w/o an explanation. So I'll have to be very, very sneaky.

ChrisnJen, the spotting could definitely be a good sign! Especially if your temps stay up...and this is pretty long LP for you isn't it?

JessieD, Cowgirl and Pride&Predjudice we'll miss you! I'm hope you enjoy the break, free of thermometers.

Welcome Chelsea hope you stay is short & sweet.

J*east and Honeygirl, I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you!!!

For all of you experts out there...What's the latest one might expect implantation bleeding? I'm 11 DPO with some light spotting today. Might just be AF on the way. Either way, if she hasn't shown in a few more days, I'll be testing but only if my temps stays high. Otherwise I feel pretty normal. My earlier FPS have all faded away. :rolleyes:

[miaclear]

Cycle day 20 and still no O. WTF??? I should have Od last Thursday and then especially with three great days of EWCM I thought it was coming late but still coming. Yesterdat the EWCM dried up and having not been able to temp these last couple days I thought my temp would be high this morning. But nothing. errrr.

[Chris~n~Jen]

ChicagoKate ~ Thanks, I need all the finger crossing I can get. Good luck seducing your husband. ;) Hope you catch the eggie.

Kanga ~ Check back in when you can and definatly when you get your BFP!

tealynn ~ This is a pretty long LP. Other than last cycles craziness, my longest has been 11. So I'm thinking that if still no AF and my temp is still high tomorrow then I may test. I only have 1 clearblue easy digital and don't really want to waste it. So I'm hoping that at 12DPO I would get an accurate reading. Good luck to you, also.

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I'm almost afraid to post for fear of jinxing myself. But I gotta ask. Starting on Saturday I woke up with a bit of acid reflux, I think. It was almost like I would hickup and a bit of fluid would come up and burn the back of my throat. It was really bad this weekend but has only happened twice today. DH made me drink some milk thinking it would help soothe my throat. Normally I hate the taste of milk but it was actually pretty good tasting to me and I ended up drinking quite a bit. Does anyone know if this could be a possible early preggo symptom?

I also still have the eye twitching and slight numbness in my left hand. So far it doesn't seem like I'm having a heart attack ;) , so not really sure what all that's about. My boobs have been super tender starting as early as day 21. That's kinda early as I usually only really notice tender boobs the day of and day before af.

So here I sit getting all my hopes up agian. I just really hope this is it, because after last cycle's excitement I think I may take this one really hard. (My eyes are tearing up as I type this).

[Chris~n~Jen]

miaclear ~ Sorry your cycle is frustrating you. I hope you O soon.

[Baby Lust]

What's the latest one might expect implantation bleeding?

I had implantation spotting at 11DPO and I was sure it was AF because my LP was 10/11 days. Good luck!! :)

[honeygirl]

It's been a rough morning. I tested (-) at the dr office (strip type of test) and so we went ahead with the biopsy. It was very painful and unfortunately she had to do it twice (to get a good sample). She said I was brave but I felt like a whimp with tears rolling down my face.

If I was pregnant I'm not anymore. Having this test was a tough call. If I waited till AF started then it would be too late to be accurate. If I was pregnant the biopsy would end the pregnancy (too invasive). But I need the test b/c if I'm not pregnant it could be for the very reason the test looks for.

I'm trusting God that I wasn't pregnant. If only my temp had gone down this morning instead of up, I'd feel more sure.

Now that I've had the test I'm sure AF will be here in 1-2 days. Please move me to waiting to O.

Best wishes to all of you who are waiting to test/waiting to O. I may need to take a few days off of this thread, this had been a difficult day.

ETA - The dr said that all the symptoms I had (FPS) are normal when taking progesterone. At least I'll know not to get my hopes up next cycle.

[Chris~n~Jen]

Honeygirl ~ {{{BIG HUGS}}}! I am so so sorry that you are having such a hard day. Take some time off and recouperate. We'll be here for you when you need us. :(

[Pootle]

This is my first cycle using a fertility monitor. I am on CD 7 and got my first high reading today. My last 2 cycles were very long so I'm hoping this is going to be a shorter cycle.

I know some people get one high reading and some people get like 15 so I'm not sure what to make of the monitor yet. I guess it may take a couple cycles for it to adjust to my body.

[j*east]

Gee, everyone seems down today. :(

Honeygirl, just wanted to send some good thoughts for you. It sounds like you had quite an ordeal today. I hope you get some helpful information from the biopsy. Be extra nice to yourself tonight.

Pootle, I don't know anything about fertility monitors, but I hope it work well for you.

Baby Lust, I spotted a little today too at 11DPO...or maybe I'm at 12 now? Thanks for your hopes for me and reply to tealynn's question. I don't have much hope left, but I appreciate your support.

Chris~n~Jen, I have no idea if those are pregnancy symptoms...but they sure sound interesting! I have my fingers crossed for you. We need a BFP.

miaclear, that's frustrating! I hope you O soon.

tealynn, I could have written your spotting post. I have no clue!

kanga1622, I hope work goes okay. Keep us posted!

ChicagoKate, good luck w/ seduction! Enjoy!

Welcome, Chelsea524!

jessied1025 and cowgirl, I'm sorry about AF. I hope your breaks are restful. Take your time and come back when the time is right.

ptcrn, I'm glad to hear that you're optimistic! I hope this is your cycle.

Me--a little spotting, a little temp drop, a lot of nausea/yucky feeling. Bleah. I just don't feel too optimistic, and I handed over my remaining tests to DH so I wouldn't use them for at least a few more days.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to hereWelcome Chelsea524

[ChicagoKate]

Pootle ~ Take a look at my chart. This is my first month using the CBEFM and I finally got a Peak reading today after 9 days of high readings. I, too, am interested to see how many Peak readings I get. Good luck on a short cycle for you!

[jodylovesscotty]

It must be that kinda day, not a good one. DH and I went to the RE and found out a lot. My OB/GYN hadn't really told us the right information. DH's sperm heads were not just a little abnormal, they were a lot abnormal 98% of them. He had never told us that before. Then when I had my HSG he said I may or may not have a tube that has problems. On one note it said may be constricted, on the other note said nothing is wrong. So today we had all kinds of testing done. DH had another sperm anaylsis as well as blood tests done. I had 10 vials of blood taken, had an exam, and had an ultra sound to check everything in my uterus out. He did say that I did ovulate (which I thought I did yesterday) out of my right side (which is the side that may or may not be constricted). I knew that I probably ovulated because I could feel it and I had some positive OPK's. I have to go back in and have another HSG seven days after AF shows so he can find out for sure if I have a constricted tube or not. If I do they will do a larproscopy (sp). and depending on DH's new sperm anaylsis we will probably move right into IUI.

So I know that I am in the 2ww now, but I'm not very hopeful. RE didn't make it sound promising. But I think I am going to bow out of this thread because RE said all the charting isn't going to help our situation. I hope that as I lurk I will come back to many more BFP's. I wish you all the best on this crazy journey.

Threadmistress ~ please remove me from this thread

[Chris~n~Jen]

jodylovesscotty ~ Sad to see you go. Hopefully you'll get the results you need soon. :(

[SweetRed]

I think we all have a shared understanding that thorough SO's are just simply impossible here these days, right? ;)

But I just wanted to pop in and give a big {{hug}} to honeygirl and a sincere hope for the best to jodylovesscotty.

Sounds like a few crazy cycles for a bunch of us. Nothing new and exciting here {{insert YAAAAAWWWWWNNNN}}

My Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/128004)

[ABirney]

Hi everyone...
Best wishes to pride&prejudice, cowgirl, and jessied on your breaks. Hope it brings you good luck!
j*east sorry for the BFN's.
honeygirl sorry to hear the biopsy was so painful. Hopefully it will give you some answers though!
Yay to MrsK, ptcrn, and risa for O'ing. Hope you caught your eggies!
chris-n-jen hopefully that was implant spotting, and the rest are FPS's!
Welcome chelsea! Hope you figure out your cycle soon.
ChicagoKate yay for peak reading!
kanga sorry work is so busy... hopefully you'll be able to pop back on soon with a BFP!
tealynn Hope AF stays away.
miaclear Hopefully you'll O soon, or maybe it was like my cycle this time and temp didn't rise right away.
jodylovesscotty sorry about all the bad news at the Dr and sorry to see you go...hopefully you'll be able to come back and share a BFP after your treatments.

As for me, FF gave me crosshairs and a "good" BD timing today, said I was 5DPO. Not sure if they have the exact date right, I think maybe it was a day later. Could go either way I guess. Still no crosshairs on Ovusoft but I expect to get them after tomorrow's temp.

[mrs_pell]

I'm so sorry to see so many taking a break or leaving. I hope everyone gets the news they want soon!

As for me, I definitely don't have time for SOs as I'm packing for an unplanned trip to Indiana tomorrow morning. My grandfather's in the hospital on dialysis, so my brother and I are driving up in the morning. Those that pray, I wouldn't mind a few! ;)

I'm hoping to be back in town by Sunday, which *should* be good timing for us, if the traveling and stress doesn't delay my O date. I'm just glad that I shouldn't miss it. I felt bad that I even thought about that when deciding whether or not to go. :(

Anyway, I hope to come back to a lot of BFPs, and to those leaving us or taking a break, ((((BIG HUGS)))).