TTC w/Charting Vol. 18 Hoping for some BFPs to fill our easter baskets.

[Charting is Knowledge]

TTCers of ConstantChatter:
Charting Our Course to the BFPs

http://www.ripleysorlando.com/images2/fertilitystatues.jpg
The fertility statues are known to work for some who rub them around the time of possible conception.
It is said that the baby is the most potent part of the statue.

So rub away! :D It's worth a shot!


Who we are:
This is a group of women using charting (temperatures, CM, CP, OPK/FM results, or a combination of these) to try to conceive and, along the way, are learning a heckuvalot about their own bodies! Many of us use a software program to keep track of our charts as well as allowing us to share them with each other. The most common ones are FertitlityFriend.com and Ovusoft.com.

Your threadmistresses for this thread are gymwidow and cowgirl.

To our members:
This thread gets very busy at times, so in order to keep things less overwhelming and a bit more organized, we start a new thread after 5 BFPs. A link to the new thread is always posted at the end of the current thread to help everyone find their way over. The threadmistresses would really appreciate it if everyone would post their updates in Red. That way, if we get a bit behind, it is much quicker to get the thread up-to-date.


Previous Thread... (http://www.constantchatter.com/showthread.php?t=17373)


KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!

Want to join the fun??
We welcome one and all. It doesn’t matter if you have never charted before or if you’ve been charting to avoid. I am sure you will find lots of help and support in this group.

If you would like to join, CD1 is the time to do it! That way, we can cheer you on
throughout your cycle, rather than 2 days before you test! :cool:

Please don't be discouraged by the number of posts in this thread. You don’t have to read the whole thread to join. Feel free to just jump in on the last page. Just read through these first couple of posts and post a reply with the following information and we will get you added right away. Of course, none of this info is a must but we like to know a little bit about one another.


CC Name:
Me: name/age
DH: name/age
Married since: date
Off BCP since: date
TTC since: date
Charting since: date
Known issues/test results:
Chart: link
Current status: waiting to O, What the bleep .., testing...

How to link a chart from Fertility Friend:
Go to My Chart. In the Menu bar on the right hand side go down to sharing- then home page setup, the link will appear in a text box under the heading "Your Charting Home Page Web Address." Highlight the link and copy it to your signature or a post.

[Charting is Knowledge]

- Member ETF Status -

Think I O'ed- Testing 4/24-4/30:
Sherb

Think I O'ed- Testing 5/1-5/7:
Ptcrn (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bed5d), Smittenk (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=smitten)

Think I O'ed- Testing 5/8-5/14:
Armadillo (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f25aa), ChicagoKate (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/c31c5), fsb2005 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10ac41), Gymwidow (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/813ab), Polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d)

Folliculating:
Waiting to O (aka - Boring Part of the Cycle)
Alioop12345 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1d0d2), Applebee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/98534), Bellefior (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6231d), Berry, bumble, Chris~n~Jen (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/101143), cowgirl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f3285), CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas), Deanna1018 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=gabbie1018), honeygirl (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ee424), Janu98, jessied1025 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/c57c3), Jjsanner (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/24f94), Kanga 1622 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28596), KristieB (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/df6e5), LDS Angel 19 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/64d1c), Lilo, MrsHill (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrshill), Mrs Pell (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/11fb25), Mrs.R (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/118b70), phillytiger (http://www.tcoyf.com/chart.asp?id=lege), pride&prejudice, Pocahontas (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/12430d), RoJo, Tealynn (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/114180)

Stagnating:
What the *bleep* is going on?!?!

Chart not Updated -- Waiting for an update:

Taking a Charting Break/Temporarily TTA:
ABirney (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrsabirney), Charliezangel (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/c97d2), Jess71903 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10d126), Jnshanna (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cafa6), JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf), MrsJackson05 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e581e), neenbean (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/66982), polarama (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=polarama), Stevesbabygirl (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=stevesbabygirl), TazLuv (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e80b5)


Percolating:
Expecting Mommies!

BFPs in May: (1)
Indiana Bride (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1d936)

BFPs in April: (5)
Deanna1018, giry76 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/781ab), Harmony96 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/d1b58), Kimmer (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/106fea), Marteneym (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fa78)

BFPs in March: (9)
ausi2b (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f7062), BethIrish (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/105e49), Delaney21 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e9d11), Ilovemygeek (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bec65), lattee22 (http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=lattee22), Mayham (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/be39e), Roberta (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10827a), RubberSoul (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/118cd2), Sare79 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/fe765)

BFP’s in February: (10)
Bunnybeth (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e5de5), Dlj78 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=dlj78), Ellidew (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/78d2a), jeant ( http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/5ef37), Jenzen01 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/41226), Lilla (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2c0b6), MichelleRenee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e174a), mimieliza (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/b84ec), Quartercentury (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3313f), Sinclair319

BFP’s in January: (12)
Adam's Pi (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/95990), Dionysia (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/fdec3), Hula1974 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/905ef), jbemommy ( http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1064ba), Katmg (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/89994), lawgirl4 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/a6770), Lily (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/447e7), MSH, Polkadot, octoberkate (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f8c44), Spencer's_Girl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6f9cc), suiej (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10159a)

BFP's in December: (8)
Abby's Mom, ajlanden (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2fdee), Aletheia (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a0c60), Dotsie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e00ca), jeggink (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c595), Mrs. M. (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1a234), Sabriel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c), UTChick (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf25d)

BFP's in November: (7)
Almostthere, Ellebelle (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2f8f5), Jesseybell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cd4f1), Lindybug (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99db2), Linnybubbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2330), mkvh (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99502), mrst2b2003

BFPs in October: (19)...We Broke the Record for most BFP's in One Month!!!!
amurphy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a5e06), Bottleored (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/44b0a), BunnyBeth (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e5de5), Calla Lily (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b025d), Ds2003 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ds2003), flygirl, Gardenia (http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=gardeniacc), jbenny75 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/803b1), Kaeden's Mommy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bcdb2), Lizard (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/af125), Mystikal (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/RaeK622), nuhmah (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/d72dc), Ryan (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3f12b), SarahnCraig (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c1846), Shouldaeloped (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/63d7a), Soulmate (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Soulmate), Klav (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21291), ShelbyMay (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/67c07), Wrighty26 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/beb7b)

BFPs in September: (3)
Baby Lust (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Shanes_Angel), Lowcountrywed (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c4aeb), Sabriel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c)

BFPs in August: (11)
Akachan93 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/229b9), Crazycaro (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21ac6), Guinness (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=10&id=guinness&tc=0&p=), jeeplover (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/721bb), Indiana Bride, LittleStar (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c204a), Mel7dog (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ca05d), Missy329 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2b4de), MMHinCA (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c14c1), Sinclair319 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/sinclair319), Stumbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b1333), Uskiku (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cdfb0)

BFPs in July: (10)
Elenitsa (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=13&id=elenitsa&tc=0&p=), Heidi0622 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/549f8), Jane&Andy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c455f), Kopper (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/9e5e6), MrsCantDecide (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59e5b), Red_Canuck, Sevilla, ShannonGH (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ShannonGH), Tracie (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/a18c8), Tunibell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59461)

BFPs in June: (2)
Christy5599, Lovin'it

Tributatoring:
Proud Cheerleaders!
T3h_wookie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/25336)

Please advise if we are off-target with your ETF (Estimated Test-Fest) or other status, or just need a good old-fashioned Ovary Shout!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Our Members:

ABirney (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrsabirney)
Me: Angie, 31
DH: Scott, 29
Married since: Sept 25, 2004
Off BC since: Dec '04
TTC since: Sept '05
Charting since: Dec 20 '04
Known issues: possible PCOS, starting Metformin 5/4/06

Adam's Pi (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/95990)
Me: 25
DH: 28
Married since: June 29, 2002
DS: June 25, 2004
Off BCP since: October 2002
TTC since: December 2005
Charting since: December 2005 (but we charted when we TTC DS)
Known issues/test results: This is my first known cycle since giving birth to my DS--I BF'ed him and didn't have a PP AF for 17.5 months....I'm still figuring out what my body is up to

Alioop12345 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1d0d2)
Me: Alioop12345 (33)
DH: Aron
DS: Jacob (02/03/04)
TTC #2 since: 5/05
Known issues/test results: Seeking help from RE using Gonal F, progesterone, estrodial, and HcG...probably going to use Viagra next cycle

Applebee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/98534)
Me: Lori Ann
DH: Ted
Married since: 4.4.03
Charting since: since Feb '05
Known issues/test results: Day3 Test all ok, DH's SA ok, but will have another one done. Motility on the low side

Armadillo (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f25aa)
Me: 27
DH: 30
Married since: 10/2004
Off BCP since: 7/2005
TTC since: 8/2005
Charting since: 11/2005
Known issues/test results: none

Bellefior (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6231d)
ME: 37
DH: 36
Married since: 5/31/03
Off BCP since: 5/05
TTC since: 5/05
Charting since: 5/05
Known issues/test results: low SA, repeat SA to be conducted, followed by visit to RE


Berry
Me: Connie, 29
DH: K, 31
Married since: 06/08/02
Off BCP since: May 2004
TTC since: December 2005
Charting since: November 2004
Known issues/test results: None

Bumble
DH: 33
Married since: 8.2003
TTC since: 4.2005
Charting since: 1.2005
Known issues/test results: miscarriage 6.2005 (8 weeks)

Charliezangel (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/c97d2)
Me: Emily 23
DH: Daniel 31
Married since: 5-22-05
Off BCP since: 11-23-05
TTC since: 1-6-06
Charting since: 1-17-06

ChicagoKate (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/c31c5)
Me: Kate, 31
DH: Chris, 33
Married since: 11.12.05
Off BCP since: 12.29.05
TTC since: 12.29.05
Charting since: 12.29.05
Known issues/test results: had a CP on cycle 2, took cycle 3 off from charting temps

Chris~n~Jen (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/101143)
Me: Jenifer/28
DH: Chris/30
Married since: 10/29/05
Off BCP since: 01/01/03
TTC since: 10/29/05
Charting since: 02/19/06
Known issues/test results: none
Current status: Think I O'd, testing 03/11-03/14

cowgirl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f3285)
Me: 28
DH: 33
Married since: 6/14/2003
TTC since: 6/14/2004
Charting since: 10/24/2005
Known issues/test results:

CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas)
Me: MMT age 33
DH: CT age 37
Married: 11/04
Off BCP: 12/04
TTC since: 01/05
Known issues/test results: diagnosed with premature ovarian failure 4/06
4/6 Lap - shows open tubes, small bit of endo lasered off
Moving on to IUI in next month or so

fsb2005 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10ac41)
Me: 28
DH: 29
Married since: June 14, 2003
Off BCP since: December 2005
TTC since: April 2006
Charting since: December 2005
Known issues/test results: none

Gymwidow (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/813ab)
Me: 29
DH: 29
Married since: June '03
Off BCP since: Feb. '05
TTC since: June '05
Charting since: Feb. '05
Known issues/test results: PCOS diagnosed 9/05; 50 mg Clomid 11/05; 50 mg Clomid 12/05; 100 mg Clomid and IUI 1/06; 100 mg Clomid and IUI 2/06; 100 mg Clomid and IUI 3/06

honeygirl (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ee424)
Me: Anne
DH: wonderful
Married since: 2003
Off BC since: August 2005
TTC since: May 2006
Charting since: August 2005
Known issues: luteal phase defect (short LP & post-o spotting), in the process of testing/med trials

Janu98
Me: Mona/27
DH: Abdullah/30
Married since: Sept 4, 2004
Off BCP since: Nov/05
TTC and Charting since: Nov/05
Known issues/test results: none

Jess71903 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10d126)
Me: Jessica (27) - December 10
DH: Tony (26)
Married: July 19, 2003
Last BCP: Date August 21, 2005
TTC since: Aug 2005
Charting since Jan 3, 2006

jessied1025 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/c57c3)
Me: Jessie (28)
DH: Jim (29)
Married since: Oct. 25, 2003
Off BC since: July 2005
TTC Since: Sept/Oct 2005
Charting Since: Nov 2005
Known Issues: None

Jjsanner (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/24f94)
Me: Jen, 30
DH: Eric, 33
DS: Elijah, born 2/6/2004
Married since: 4/26/2003
Off BCP since: 10/2004
TTC since: 6/2005
Charting since: 10/2004
Known issues/test results: None

Jnshanna (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cafa6)
Me: Shanna/29
DH: Jose/30
Married since: 10/01/94
Off BCP since: Haven't been on BCP for many years.
TTC since: July 2005
Charting since: 8/07/05
Known issues/test results: None

JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf)
Me: Jody, 32
DH: Scott, 31
Married Since: August 30, 2003
Off BCP Since: At least 10 years now
Charting Since: January 2005
Known issues/test results: None

[Charting is Knowledge]

Members continued...

Kanga 1622 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/28596)
Me: 25
DH: 28
Married since: 8/31/02
Off BCP since: 7/03
TTC since: 02/06
Charting since: 07/03
Known issues/test results: None

KristieB (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/df6e5)
Me: Kristie/27
DH: Troy/26
Married since: 4/16/05
Off BCP since: N/A
TTC since: 11/05
Charting since: 08/05
Known issues/test results: None

lattee22 (http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=lattee22)
Me: Jaime, 29
DH: Brian, 27
Married since: 21 September 2001
Off BCP and charting since: Oct 2003; since first PP AF (11/05) after birth of daughter
TTC since: March 2006
Known issues/test results: none so far; conceived daughter quickly

LDS Angel 19 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/64d1c)
Me: Michelle, 22
DH: Aaron, 23
Married since: Sept 4th 2004
Angel: Allison Grace, born and died June 17 2005
Off BCP since: Never on BCP
TTC (again) since: August 2005
Charting since: Charted August, took September off, and now starting again.
Known issues/test results: None at this time

Lilo
Married since: 2002
Off BCP since: late 2004?
TTC since: January 2006
Charting since: November 2004
Known issues/test results: None
Chart: no link at the moment

MrsHill (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrshill)
Me: MrsHill/33
DH: B/41
Married since: September 24, 2005
Off BCP since: October 2005
TTC since: May 2006
Charting since: November 2005
Known issues/test results: Diagnosed with PCOS 2003

MrsJackson05 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e581e)
Me: Jessica/23
DH: Travis/29
Married since: September 10th, 2005
TTC since: October, 2005
Charting since: Ocober 2005
Known issues/test results:

Mrs Pell (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/11fb25)
Me: Cori, age 28
DH: Mark, age 35
Married since: July 12, 2003
Off BCP since: July, 2003
TTC since: "Seeing what happens" for about a year...just now actively trying
Charting since: Feb 28, 2006
Known issues/test results: none
Current status: waiting to O

MrsR (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/118b70)
Me: Jessica/32
DH: Matt/33
Married since: October 18, 2003
Off BCP since: June 2005
TTC since: June 2005
Charting since: February 2006
Known issues/test results: None

neenbean (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/66982)
Me: 30
DH: 30
Married since: 11/15/03
Off BCP since: 2/04
TTC since: waiting until 1/06
Charting since: 10/05/05 (also did before BFP with DD)
Known issues/test results: none

phillytiger (http://www.tcoyf.com/chart.asp?id=lege)
Me: Laura / 30
DH: D / 31
Married since: July 31, 2004
Off BCP since: August 2004
TTC since: January 2006
Charting since: January 2005
Known issues/test results:

pride&prejudice
Me: Rosie/26
DH: Gary/27
Married since: 5.28.05
Off BCP since: 4.23.06
TTC since: hopefully July!
Charting since: starting next cycle
Known issues/test results: none
Current status: waiting for DH to be off methotrexate for 3 months

Pocahontas (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/12430d)
ME: 35
DH: 33
Married: Sept. 3, 2005
TTC and Charting since: 12/05
Known issues: Fibroids

polarama
Me: Jenn, 30
DH: Chris, 30
Married since: 7/27/2002
Off BCP since: November, 2005
TTC since: November, 2005
Charting since: December, 2005
Known issues/test results: Possible PCOS, but never confirmed.

polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d)
Me: Lauren 26
DH: Brian 27
Married since: Nov. 20, 2004
Off BC since: May 05
TTC since: May 05
Charting since: May 05
Known issues: m/c 1/06

Ptcrn (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bed5d)
Me: Jen/30
DH: Gerry/30
Married since: July 30th 2005
Off BCP since: August 14th 2005
TTC and Charting since: August 14th 2005
Known issues/test results: none

Purplesunshine7
Me:
DH:
Married since: 4/5/03
Off BCP since:
TTC since: 7/05
Known issues/test results: m/c 6/2/05

RoJo
Me: 32
DH: 32
Married since: 8/02
Off BCP since: 2002
TTC since: June 2005 (some months not TTC)
Charting since: June 2005
Known issues/test results: No known fertility issues

Sherb
Me: Aimee, 27
DH: R, 31
Married since: 9/18/04
Off BCP since: 5/05 (BCP caused hypertension)
TTC since: 4/01/06
Charting since: 6/05
Known issues/test results:

Smittenk (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=smitten)
Me: Alison/28
DH: Mike/37 on April 12!
Married since: April 03 2004
Off BCP since: Oct 2005
TTC since: Now
Charting since: Oct 2005
Known issues/test results:mild displaysia

Stevesbabygirl (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=stevesbabygirl)
Me: Heather, 26
DH: Steve, 28
Married since: August 31, 2003
Off BCP since: February 2006
TTC since: waiting for CD1
Charting since: February 2006
Known issues/test results: Endometriosis

TazLuv (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e80b5)
Me: CM/29
DH: BM/29
Married since: July 2002
Off BCP since: June 2005
TTC since: Aug 2005
Charting since: 9/23/05
Known issues/test results: Loooooooong cycles

Tealynn (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/114180)
Me: Teresa/35
DH: Phil/41
Married since: Sept 2003
Off BCP since: years
TTC since: For over a year but just a couple of months w/ TCOYF
Charting since: Will start w/ my next cycle
Known issues: no known issues

[Charting is Knowledge]

Things I Have Learned About TTC
by WC's Sherylb

* TTC is a journey. You will discover things about yourself that you never expected. You will face fears you never thought you had. You will find joy in little things.

* TTC can bring you closer to your DH, or it can pull you apart. If your marriage is not solid, you will find out quickly.

* No one understands exactly what you are feeling at any given moment, but someone can empathize at least a little bit.

* You will experience an emotional roller coaster ride. There will be highs and lows and fast moments and slow. Sometimes you have to wait in a very, very slow moving line. You may not even get the seat you want. It is not always fun, it can be scary, but in the end it is worth it.

* "Just relax" is the last thing in the world you want to hear from someone, but it is OK if you say it about yourself.

* There will be moments when you question your own decision to start TTC. You will wonder if you should wait or if you should just give up. Those are normal. But you will get past those feelings.

* The blue and green turtle likes to pop its head out! You will hear of someone's pregnancy and turn green with envy and blue inside because it isn't you.

* It isn't fair, it isn't easy, and it isn't pretty. But you keep doing it because the reward is worth it.

* You will be your best friend and your worst enemy. Your body will
surprise you and yet disappoint you.

* Some women do get lucky and conceive right away. Others aren't so lucky and have to struggle to get there. Hope you will be in the first category, but prepare yourself to be in the second.

* Once you decide to TTC, there will be babies and pregnant women everywhere! You could swear there is a baby boom going on!

* You will have questions. No one will ever be in exactly your position, so don't be surprised when no one can give you exactly the answer you are looking for. But there are people that can contribute, so don't be afraid to ask!

* Two lines on a pregnancy test is not the end of the struggle. Pregnancy has lots of struggles in and of itself.

[Charting is Knowledge]

HPT sensitivity chart

These numbers might come in handy when shopping for HPTs.
The lower the amount of mIU measured, the more sensitive the test is!

AimStick Pregnancy Test Strip 20 mIU
AccuHome Midstream Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Pregnancy Test (Cup) 25 mIU
Clearblue +/- 25 mIU
Clearblue Digital 25 mIU
Confirm 1-Step Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Dollar Store Brand Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Equate Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
First Response Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
One Step Be Sure Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Precise Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Quickview Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Walgreen Digital 25 mIU
e.p.t. Home Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
Fact Plus Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
CVS Cartridge Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
CVS Midstream Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Drug Emporium Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. + / - Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. Certainty Digital Test 50 mIU
early Pregnancy test 50 mIU
RiteAid Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Target Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
WalMart Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Walgreens Pregnancy Test 100 mIU

[Charting is Knowledge]

- Common TTC abbreviations

This is a list of some of the more common TTC abbreviations. I know as a newcomer to the TTC threads, it can be hard to keep them all straight. I hope these will help, and if anyone has any they would like added, please let me know!


•2WW: "2 week wait" - The approximate time from possible conception to menstruation due date; Pregnancy tests should be taken near the end of the 2WW.
•AF: "Aunt Flo"; Your period; Menstruation
•AFNW: "Aunt Flo Not Wanted"; the day your period is expected to start, but you are hoping it doesn't!
•AO: anovulatory (cycle without ovulation)
•BBs: "boobs"; breasts
•BBL: "be back later"
•BBT: Basal Body Thermometer; This is used to measure your basal body temperature, when you wake up in the morning, after at least 3 hours of sleep, before you start to move around; Use a special BBT thermometer to take your temperature because they measure the small changes in temperature from day to day more accurately than the regular fever thermometers.
•BCP: Birth control pills
•BD'ing: "baby dancing"; baby-making intercourse
•BFN: "Big Fat Neutral" or “Big Fat Negative”; Negative pregnancy test.
•BF'ing: breast-feeding
•BRB: "be right back"
•CD: cycle day; a particular day in your menstrual cycle (example: CD1 is the first day of your period)
•CL: Cover Line; a visual tool used to separate the low (pre-ovulatory) temps from high (post-ovulatory) temps; a coverline is typically based on the temperatures 6 days prior to ovulation.
•CM: cervical mucous; one of the most useful clues your body can give you in predicting your fertility; it can range from dry, creamy, sticky, or (the most fertile) egg white/watery type.
•CF: cervical fluid; same as cervical mucus
•CP: cervical position; an optional, but sometimes really useful, fertility sign; CP will generally be low, firm and closed before and after ovulation, and high, soft and open during your fertile time.
•DD: "dear daughter"
•DH: "dear husband"
•DS: "dear son"
•DPO: Days Past Ovulation; number of days from your post-ovulatory temperature rise. (Example: 1DPO is the day after your ovulation)
•Endo: endometriosis (can be a fertility problem)
•EDC and EDD: estimated date of confinement (antiquated, but still used by physicians) and estimated date of delivery
•EPT: a brand of pregnancy test, or, generic for "early pregnancy test"
•EW or EWCM: egg white cervical mucus; the most fertile quality CM; it is slippery, clear and stretchy, like egg whites; also EWCF
•FAM: Fertility Awareness Method; the method of fertility and/or birth control that correlates the physical changes you experience during your cycle to predict when you are most fertile
•FF: Fertility Friend, an online (free, for basic services) fertility charting site (website); (could also be formula feeding; check context)
•FM: fertility monitor
•FMU: first morning urine
•FP: follicular phase; the phase before ovulation, where the egg matures in the ovaries
•FRED: First Response Early Detection (pregnancy test)
•HCG: human chorionic gonadotropin; the hormone that is present during pregnancy and what the HPT's and blood test measure to determine if you are pregnant
•HTH: "hope that helps"
•HPT: home pregnancy test; a urine pregnancy test you can take at home
•IMHO: "in my humble opinion"
•IMO: "in my opinion"
•IUI: intra-uterine insemination
•IVF: in vitro fertilization
•KU: knocked up
•LH: leutenizing hormone; the LH surge is what is measured by the OPKs; this hormone signals the egg to burst from the ovary
•LP: luteal phase; the phase of your cycle that begins just after ovulation and continues for 10-18 days, ending with the start of your next period; during the LP, your body continues to build up the lining of your uterus, and produce hormones which would support a pregnancy; this is the time when a fertilized egg can implant into the uterine lining
MBFP Mystery big fat positive- When you see a BFP in someone’s chart but they haven’t announced it yet
•NFP: Natural Family Planning; similar to FAM, but with abstinence during the fertile period
•O, Oing, Oed: ovulation, ovulating, or ovulated
•OPK: ovulation predictor kit; tests for presence of LH surge that usually precedes ovulation by 12-48 hours; these tests are quite expensive and not always accurate (if you take medication or depending on your age); these are optional when charting with FF, but if your fertility data is not clear it can bring more light and help interpret difficult cases
•OS: Ovusoft; charting software based on TCOYF
•PCOS: polycystic ovarian syndrome (a fertility problem)
•PG: pregnant
•PIAC: pee in a cup
•POAS: pee on a stick
•RE: reproductive endocrinologist
•SA: semen analysis
•SH: "sweet husband"
•SO: "significant other"
•SYS, SYL : See ya soon! or See ya later!
•TCOYF: Taking Charge Of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler; a book and website about charting and fertility.
•TMI: "too much information" - There is no such thing when TTC!
•TTA: "trying to avoid"
•TTC: "trying to conceive"
•TTFN: "ta-ta for now"
•TTYL, TTYS: "talk to you later" or "talk to you soon"

[Charting is Knowledge]

Resources borrowed from Still At It:

Abbreviations and acronyms
List of TTC & IF acronyms written out (http://womens-place.com/ttc/ttcacronyms.php)

HPT Sensitivity Comparison Charts
Fertility Plus (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hpt.html)
Pee On A Stick (http://www.peeonastick.com/hpts.html)
Mama's Ark (http://www.mamasark.com/hpt.htm)
Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com/pregnancy-test-sensitivity.html)
Remember, the hCG starts at 1 at implantation and increases as time goes on, so the smaller amount of hCG it measures, the more sensitive the test is!

Books
Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler, MPH (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060937645/qid=1041654042/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

The Fertility Sourcebook by M. Sara Rosenthal, PHD (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0737303808/qid=1042220393/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)

Inconceivable by Ben Elton (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385334656/qid=1041659461/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)
The movie "Maybe Baby" (below) is based on this book

Inconceivable: A Woman's Triumph Over Despair and Statistics
by Julia Indichova (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0767908201/qid=1059292613/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

The Infertility Diet: Get Pregnant & Prevent Miscarriage by Fern Reiss (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1893290395/qid=1059292976/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

Conquering Infertility: Dr. Domar's Mind/Body Guide to Enhancing
Fertility & Coping with Infertility by Alice Domar, Phd (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0670031550/qid=1059293116/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/103-2812959-1358247)


Girlfriend to Girlfriend: A Fertility Companion by Kristen Magnacca (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1588202135/qid=1082306449/sr=8-2/ref=pd_ka_2/104-9895052-8814318?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

Movies
Maybe Baby (2001) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000062XKW/qid=1041654127/sr=8-4/ref=sr_8_4/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=video&n=507846)

She's Having A Baby (1988) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6300988996/qid%3D1041654195/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-0287896-1655948)

Websites (by subject)

Charting
Ovusoft aka TCOYF (http://www.ovusoft.com/)
The site for Toni Weschler's book which includes message boards, chat and cycle galleries which are very helpful.

Fertility Friend (www.fertilityfriend.com)
A free charting site which includes a lot of information and cycle galleries.

Local Support
RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/chapters/resolvenearyou.jsp?name=chapters)
Nation-wide referrals to local support groups and therapists.

The American Infertility Association (http://www.americaninfertility.org)
Lots of information and support, including message boards and chat rooms.

Financial Concerns
ARC: Advanced Reproductive Care (http://www.arcfertility.com/)
information on financing infertility treatments

Family Fee Plan (http://www.amerifee.com/fertility-financing/index.asp)
information on financing infertility treatments

State Insurance Requirements (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/advocacy/insurance/index.jsp?name=advocacy&tag=insurance)
Links from the Resolve site about insurance & laws.

Inciid's Insurance pages (http://www.inciid.org/index.php)
Click through menu on right for more financial topics and the insurance forum.

General TTC
Trying To Conceive.com (http://www.tryingtoconceive.com/)
All things TTC! Lots of info as well as a place to buy herbal therapies for
conceiving.

Baby Med (http://www.babymed.com/)
Tons of information. Everything from Chinese gender charts to an FAQ section on pretty much any TTC question you could have.

Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com)
Baby makin' supplies!

OBGYN.net (http://www.obgyn.net/)
Lots of general info on women's health. They also have doctors on line who
answer questions.

Infertility Sites
INCIID (http://www.inciid.org/)
Pronounced "inside". (The International Council on Infertility Information Dissemination)
Excellent national resource.

Resolve (http://www.resolve.org)
Wonderful site with lots of infertility information and support.

I dream of baby (http://www.idreamofbaby.com/fertility.php)
Learn the basics of fertility issues here. This site also has a great message
board community!

Fertility Plus.org’s list of female hormone levels (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hormonelevels.html#female)
Starting your fertility work-up? Check out this site to see a list of the
commonly tested female hormone levels, the function of each hormone, and the normal levels of each hormone.

Shared Journey (http://www.sharedjourney.com)
Shared Journey is dedicated to providing quality information on topics such as
infertility, miscarriage, surrogacy, pregnancy after infertility, living
child-free, and adoption. Our information is supplied by well noted Reproductive
Endocrinologist's, Psychologists, Adoption professionals and links through
various sites.

FertileHeart (http://www.fertileheart.com)
A community of people exploring holistic approaches to fertility. A site by
author Julia Indichova (see books above)

Specific IF Issues
Soul Cysters (http://www.soulcysters.com)
PCOS site with lots of support and info

Dr. Beer (http://www.repro-med.net)
Reproductive Immunology information, including lists of tests, pricing, local referrals

Reproductive Immunology Support (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/immunologysupport/)
Yahoo group for RI patients, tons of info and articles

Info for Family and Friends
Empty Arms (http://www.vocalicious.com/empty_arms/empty_arms_mod.html)
This is a great video so they can understand what you're going through. (And get out your kleenex!)


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[armadillo]

Yay!! A new thread. Congrats, Kimmer!!!

[jessied1025]

Subscribing to the new thread!! :)

Threadmisstress - can you make a change to my profile, DH is now 29. Thanks!! :)

[MrsR]

congrats kimmer. H&H 9 months!!!

*********
Okay, I had a temp drop today (to about the same level my temps have been post O) so I am thinking yesterday's high temp was due to the drinking and restlessness. Even if I put in two higher fake temps tomorrow, FF won't give me a possible triphasic or implant date of today:(

[LDS Angel 19]

Yay for a new thread. Congrats to Kimmer.

Nothing going on here. I'm only on CD 3 so still waiting for the hag to check out.

[polkadot]

subscribing as I :rolleyes: at my body....i wish i could get a straight answer about my chart...it is soooooo confusing...

[fsb2005]

Congrats Kimmer!

polkadot - not to get your hopes up...but I wonder whether you O'd somewhere around CD 18, and today's temp might be an implant dip? I've saw in some of your past charts that you tend to have a little plateau of lower temps right after O, and then the temps go up. I guess we'll have to see what tomorrow's temp does...

[Kimmer]

Thanks for the well wishes everyone. Things are very sparse in the December Mommies thread please let this be a bumper crop of BFP is month! :)

****************~~~~~~~Baby Dust~~~~~~~~*********

[Bellefior]

Well I had my visit with my OB/GYN this morning. It went pretty much as I expected. She did look at my charts and confirmed that I am ovulating so the problem is not there. I also asked about my short luteal phases (usually about 11 days average) and she said that as long as my overall cycle wasn't short (average 28 days) then its not something to worry about. She basically just looked at my first chart and my last and flipped through the rest to see the thermal shifts, didn't really focus too much on the BD'ing other than to confirm verbally with me, that we had been trying and had been trying at the appropriate time of the month. She also told me that a history of cysts in the past would not generally affect fertility.

So the plan is this. CD 3 Bloodwork, Ultrasound (due to the past history of cysts) and an HSG somewhere between days 7-11. If all that comes back okay then DH goes in for his SA. If they can't find anything, then because of my age, her recommendation would be to send me to the IVF clinic. Which my insurance doesn't cover--I think I may have said this before...while MA law requires employers to cover infertility treatments, because I work for the Federal Government, they can get away with being able to exclude it because technically its not a MA employer. They will pay for diagnosis and some treatment, but nothing invasive like IVF, IUI etc. In other words, none of the more expensive stuff.

I probably should have had my husband come with me to the appointment (he just dropped me off) because when he called me on my cell phone to see how it went, I nearly had a meltdown in the middle of the street. I managed to pull myself together enough to tell him I would call him when I actually got into my office. I made it to my office, closed my door, and then called him back to finish having my meltdown and a good cry. I'm not feeling very good about my situation right now. While the doctor did say we are not sure yet about this month (I'm mid-cycle), the recommendation that we go immediately to the IVF clinic to see what they could do if the initial testing showed no problems, while expected, was not what I wanted to hear mainly because of the rotten insurance situation.

So anyway, that is where I'm at. Today has been such a downer and I'm sorry if my post reflects that. I will keep you all posted. Good luck to all this weekend's testers and all of the recent BFPs.

[jnshanna]

A new thread is always a good time to check in so here I am. :) Even though I'm taking a charting break I'm still reading along to keep up with you all.

Big congrats to Kimmer, Harmony and un-official to giry. Even though a line is a line! :D I hope it gets darker so that you feel more confident in it tomorrow.

Sorry about the low temp today, MrsR. But don't get too discouraged. It's still early so it's far from over. :)

I'm feeling so much more relaxed about things this month but then again I'm only on CD15. The 2WW will probably be a whole different ball game. ;)

[pocahontas]

WOW KIMMER!! :eek: That's awesome! *can ya leave some more baby dust just for good measure?* lol

POLKADOT...I remember you and I were having the same possible s/e of b/a and I am pulling my hair out at my chart too! My temp hasn't gone up like I'm used to it doing and I keep thinking...does that mean I haven't O'ed??

Actually, another long shot question here but...has anyone O'ed and their temp NOT "spiked"? I had a dip down to 97.0 on like Monday and by yesterday I was only at 97.5. Usually, after O I am up around 98. I have never gone to CD 20 (which is today) without O'ing. I am sooooooo beyond confused. *sigh*

[giry76]

polkadot, I just called to try to get a beta and all they would do is set up the nurse appt for like more than a week from now. BUT at least by then I should know more off a HPT by then. I will probably test again tomorrow am, but I am out of tests again...

[pocahontas]

Threadmistress...I just noticed I should change my stats since DH's birthday was yesterday and I am missing some other info.

Pocahontas
ME: 35
DH: 33
Married: Sept. 3, 2005
TTC and Charting since: 12/05
Known issues: Fibroids

[armadillo]

Hugs, Bellefior. I'm sorry things are so rough. :( Fingers crossed that this is your month and you won't have to worry about IVF.

Polkadot, your chart is confusing me too. If only today's temp wasn't so low...

[Smittenk]

I'd love to join you!

CC Name: Smittenk
Me: Alison/28
DH: Mike/37 on April 12!
Married since: April 03 2004
Off BCP since: Oct 2005
TTC since: Now
Charting since: Oct 2005
Known issues/test results:mild displaysia
Chart: I cannot publish my chart for some reason :mad:
Current status: Don't know the correct term but today is the first day of my
5th cycle off BCP.

DH and I have just been "living" not trying and not avoiding. We are now going to actually start paying attention to my chart!

Look forward to getting to know you and also figuring this charting stuff out. I am still learning alot!

[jnshanna]

Welcome Alison! :)

Sorry about your appointment, Bellefior. I really hope your test results find something to help you figure out what's going on. Why do our bodies have to be so difficult?! :(

[polkadot]

lets see...

fsb2005~ i wish that theory could be right...i am so confused at the moment...

Kimmer~ thanks for the baby dust...we need it...

Bellefior~ i replied in the other thread...((((hugs))))

jnshanna~ good for being :cool: Fingers crossed for you...

pocahontas~ girl i am beginning to think that the baby aspirin was not such a great idea...since it has to have something to do with these crazy charts we are both having. i will stalk you later...;)

armadillo~thanks..i know todays temp threw me for a loop too.

Smittenk~ welcome to our crazy world...we all hope your stay is short and sweet!!

[tealynn]

Subscribing! My DH and I have pretty much been "seeing what happens" but I'm getting antsy so I'd like to be more proactive. Will start charting on my next cycle but I'm concerned that I will just not get the whole charting thing-it seems so confusing.

CC Name: Tealynn
Me: Teresa/35
DH: Phil/41
Married since: Sept 2003
Off BCP since: years
TTC since: For over a year but just a couple of months w/ TCOYF
Charting since: Will start w/ my next cycle
Known issues: no known issues
Current status: CD 23, think I O'ed around CD15 based on CM, possible implantation bleeding yesterday(wishful thinking!) . . . but no other PG symptoms.


Bellefior, I'm sorry to hear about your drs visit. I really feel for you. Because of my age, that might be a route we have to visit as well.

[polkadot]

welcome tealynn hope your stay is short and sweet

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here.

Welcome Tealynn and Smittenk!

[gymwidow]

Well, ladies, I'm starting my first non-medicated cycle in months today. AF arrived overnight (man, am I glad I thought to put on a pantiliner b/f going to sleep last night!) and I'll start charting this weekend. I don't know if it'll do any good, but I can always hope! :rolleyes:

cowgirl, thanks for starting the new thread!

Kimmer, congrats!!!!!

MrsR, I always see an artificially high temp after drinking. I hope yours stay high!

polkadot, stupid bodies of ours. I hope yours figures out what to do soon!

Bellefior, hugs. I'm so sorry you didn't get better news. I hope you're able to work something out with either your employer or the insurance company. Does your DH's insurance cover any of this?

jnshanna, I hope that relaxed feeling sticks with you!

pocahontas, yes, back in November (my first month on Clomid) I O'd but my temps did not reflect it. I knew I had O'd b/c I had a blood test done, but it wasn't till days later that my temp finally went up.

Smittenk & Tealynn, welcome!

[jjsanner]

Bellefior, please don't think that you have to go straight to IVF. I would definately make an appointment with an RE and see what they have to say before you go that route. In fact, I think that was very careless of your OB to tell you that. There is so much that can be done before even looking at IVF.

Polkadot, I'm with fsb, I am inclined to think that you o'd early as well. It does look like a possible implant dip to me, not to get your hopes up or anything. ;)

Kimmer and Giry, congrats! H&H 9 months to you both!

[Bellefior]

Thanks everyone. I'm feeling somewhat better about the situation (or as better as one can feel I suppose). Unfortunately, my husband just took the bar exam in Feb. and is in the process of looking for employment, so I'm the one with the insurance now. If we do end up having to go to the RE, I'm hoping they have other suggestions other than going straight to IVF. I'm sure they will. But when my doctor told me that her next step if the preliminary tests showed nothing would be to turn me over immediately to a doctor in the IVF clinic because of my age...well, my brain sort of stopped registering after that.

I'm just hoping that after this cycle plays out, it won't be necessary.

[spencer's_girl]

Just wanted to stop in and say congrats to the recent BFP's
and to drop off some ~*~*~babydust~*~*~ to all of the rest of you

[Jess71903]

Hi ladies! Still taking a break from charting, but I wanted to check in and say hi. Congratst to last threads BFPs, including giry! I know that line is supposed to get darker, but I have heard so many times not to try to use HPTs as an indication of how your #s are. I know you probably have already, but read peeonastick.com just for affirmation and be happy to be pg!

DH had the SA...gotta say that that was a weird experience! Anyway, count was 131million and "everything looked normal" so I guess we can relax now. I have been quite relaxed this cycle...I had to check with FF yesterday to see that I was at CD11.

Good luck to everyone! I hope April is our month!

[giry76]

Ok I am going to call it. I got a BFP this morning! It was still pretty faint, but definitly there.

Thanks for the ride ladies.

***BABYDUST to all!!!***

[Bellefior]

Threadmistress, please move me to I think I O'ed

FF called my O this morning at CD 14, where I thought it would be based on the positive OPK and the temp jump. Thank God we used OPKs this month, because day 14 is about 3-4 days earlier than usual for me.

God willing, I'm hoping those testing appointments at the end of the month can be cancelled and turned into a pre-natal visit instead.

Congrats again Giry!

[Smittenk]

Congratulations Giry76!!

[mrs_pell]

Congrats Giry!!! :D

[charliezangel]

Hey girls. Just checking in to say hello. Congrats to all the BFPs. Sounds like things have been exciting while i've been away.

Just wanted to update that I had the gall bladder out yesterday and everything went great. I'm a little sore, but doing very well for the most part. I'll keep checking in!!

[stevesbabygirl]

Threadmistress, can you place me in Temporarily TTA? Thanks!

Congrats giry :D!

[mrs_pell]

I spy a MBFP! ;)

CD 15 for me and still no O. Last month was CD 13, so hopefully it'll be soon.

charliezangel ~ Glad everything went well with your surgery!

Welcome Alison and Teresa!

[JayJay]

Congrats, Giry! Have any pics of beautiful BFP's to post?!!? ;) :)

[giry76]

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i290/smelph/test001.jpg

Ok here it is. Sorry it is huge and our sink is gross.

[mrs_pell]

I would most definitely say that is a BFP!! :D Congrats, again!

[JayJay]

Thanks for the pic, Giry! Congrats, again! ;)

[pocahontas]

Aaaah, what a pretty picture! Cross your crossables for me Giry 'cuz I'm hoping to have one to match yours in a couple weeks! :D CONFRATS AGAIN!

FF is finally giving me an O date...they are saying CD 18 which is great because we BD'ed the day before, day of and day after. I'm on CD 22 and have been scratching my head every which way trying to figure out if I O'ed because I haven't had a real temp spike like I'm used to. I mean typically I'd have somewhere around a 97.0 degree temp one day and it'd jump to 98.1 or something the day after O...a noticeable and dramatic difference. This time it hasn't even got up above 98. This morning it was only 97.7. Oh well...I hope FF is right!Threadmistress...would you move me to "I Think I O'ed...testing Apr. 20". Thanks!

[ptcrn]

Yeah, a new thread! I was away for the weekend and AF decided to show. :mad: So, could you please move me to Waiting to O? I guess we are on to doing DH's SA and starting acupuncture. Hoping this works.

Congrats to giry, Harmony, and Kimmer!!! H&H 9 months to you all! And the mystery BFP as well!

Welcome to Smittenk and tealynn! Hope your stays here are very short!

I need to unpack, be back later!

[polkadot]

Ok...so i PM one of the FF guides and after a bunch of manuvering she has set my chart to the research setting and it gives me an O on cycle day 17. That puts me at 10DPO, and that works for me...b/c that means...my 2WW is almost over...:D

threadmistress please move me to Thinking I O'ed testing 4/15!!

[ABirney]

Hey ladies... I'm back from petsitting and glad to see I came back to some BFP's!!!! Congrats giry, Harmony, and kimmer! (and the mbfp.. which I can't find..???)
Welcome smitten and tealynn! Hope your stays are short and sweet!
charliezangel hope the surgery went ok!
Hope everyone else is doing well.... so far behind I'm gonna keep this short..

As for me, I entered all my info from while I was gone and FF gave me dotted crosshairs.... but I really don't think I O'd.
Well have a great night everyone!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to Here

Congrats Giry Happy and Healthy 9 Months

[cowgirl]

Drive by posting....

Congrats Giry and the MBFP!!! H & H 9 months to you both.

gymwidow:No problem.
Welcome to both new members.
Not much to update here.

[MrsR]

giry -- now I can loudly say CONGRATS!!! H&H 9 months!!!

pocahontas and polkadot -- yay for finally having ff call your O date!!!

ABirney -- hoping you did O and caught your eggie!!

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11DPO here. I think my thermometer's battery may be dying. For the last 2 days my temp has been 98.0 (and for the two days before it was 97.9 and 98.0). On Sunday when I woke up I was sweating but still my temp read 98 :confused:. To top it off, this morning after I temped, I went back to bed for an hour and then got up and went to the bathroom. Just to see (read: just to become more ridiculous), I temped after I went to the bathroom and my temp was 98.1 :confused:. Seems like if my thermometer battery was working, I would have more that a 0.1 degree rise after an hour and getting up to go to the bathroom. Oh well, I guess it is better than a temp drop. I think I am probably going to test tomorrow:rolleyes:

[CTs_Punkin]

Threadmistress, can you move me to Waiting to O

Also can you update my stats?
04/06 - RE appt - discussed possible premature ovarian failure
04/06 - LAP scheduled to fix blocked tube

[jessied1025]

Big contracts to girly!! H&H 9 months to you!!!

ptcrn sorry to hear tht AF showed her ugly head.

Good luck to everyone getting read to test.

Nothing much to report...CD5 here.

[phillytiger]

Hi ladies! How is it Monday again?!?!?! Once again, the weekend flew by...

Congrats to Giry (offically now!) and Kimmer!!!

Welcome to smitten and tealynn!

charliezangel - hope you're hanging in...and glad the surgery was successful. Having been there multiple times, I know abdominal surgery can suck - take care of your self, and give yourself the time you need to heal. Hugs!

bellefior - hang in there!!! Hugs!

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Just playing it :cool: here, waiting to O - I had a big temp drop today, so have my fingers crossed that I'm O'ing today & will see the temp rise tomorrow!!! :D

[RoJo]

I am a newbie and I hope I am in the right area.....

CC Name: RoJo
Me: 32
DH: 32
Married since: 8/02
Off BCP since: 2002
TTC since: June 2005 (some months not TTC)
Charting since: June 2005
Known issues/test results: No known fertility issues
Chart: Not currently temping, using OPKs
Current status: Waiting to O

[Chris~n~Jen]

Somehow I forgot to subscribe to the new thread, so I'm wayyyy behind. So no time for S/O's.


CD25 for me. Usually get AF on CD24 or CD25. Huge temp drop this morning so I'm thinking she will show today. :( Boobs are sore and mild cramping. It's not looking good at all for my Christmas baby.

Next cycle I am going to use the OPK's more regularly. Also can someone tell me where to get Pre-Seed?

[RoJo]

Somehow I forgot to subscribe to the new thread, so I'm wayyyy behind. So no time for S/O's.


CD25 for me. Usually get AF on CD24 or CD25. Huge temp drop this morning so I'm thinking she will show today. :( Boobs are sore and mild cramping. It's not looking good at all for my Christmas baby.

Next cycle I am going to use the OPK's more regularly. Also can someone tell me where to get Pre-Seed?

Hi Chris n Jen. I buy preseed directly from the website. Pressed.com. Hope that helps.

[JayJay]

Chris~n~Jen- I buy pre seed from saraspi on ebay. I get it for 17.50, and shipping is free!

[fsb2005]

Chris~n~Jen - Just noting that if you didn't throw out your CD 16 and 17 temps, and if your O date was actually around CD 18, then it is possible today's temp could be an implantation dip at 7 DPO. :D I guess we'll have a better idea depending on whether AF shows in the next day or so...

ETA: also Chris~n~Jen, just noting that just because you normally get AF on CD 24 or 25 doesn't mean you always will - it all depends on when you actually O. The period from O to AF is usually pretty set, but when you actually O could vary. So if you O'd on CD 18, then you probably wouldn't get AF on day 25, but rather later, depending on how long your LP normally is...You probably already know this, but some of your prior posts made me think you were focusing on the the normal length of your whole cycle more than on when you O'd and the normal length of your LP...

Anyway, keeping my fingers crossed for you!

[phillytiger]

Welcome Rojo!

[RoJo]

Welcome Rojo!

Thank you for the welcome!

[tealynn]

Thanks for the welcome ladies!

Congrats Giry! It's my first BFP sighting~and it sure is lovely!

I'm just waiting to start charting as soon as AF rears her ugly head. Unless of course she doesn't ; )

I'm CD 26, 10 DPO (guesstimate), and a lady in waiting!

[polkadot]

let the FPS begin...i am having back pain like you wouldnt believe...like pinching....UGHHH why oh why...cant i feel nothing and just wake up one morning to a BFP like people who are not crazy into TTC. :rolleyes: I know i should be happy b/c at least the symptoms give me a little hope but then if itdoesnt happen i get all bummed out...oh well...we shall see!!:rolleyes:

[marteneym]

Hi girls,
I havent been in here in quite a while. I joined the Still At It thread a few months back. After 18months of TTC, chlomid, and 2 IUI's we finally got our BFP Friday. We took this month as a break and amazingly are pregnant with no assistance. I am so thrilled about that. My body finally figured it out.

Good luck to all of your girls, I hope your BFP's come soon. And congrats to GIRY and KIMMER! H&H 9months to you both. And here is some ...
~*~*~BABY DUST~*~*~

[MrsR]

marteneym -- CONGRATS!!! H&H 9 months!! Isn't it amazing that sometimes our bodies actually figure it out :D

polkadot -- I hear you on the FPS -- I had horrible heartburn on Friday and Saturday which made me think maybe . . . however, NOTHING else to report -- I was just saying to my friend who got her BFP last week that I wish I had some sort of FPS to give me hope . . . we shall see 'cause it looks like the testing will begin tomorrow:rolleyes:

Rojo and tealynn -- welcome -- hope your stays are short and sweet!!

Chris~n~Jen -- I buy my preseed at earlypregnancytests.com; you can also buy it at babycenter.com

[Chris~n~Jen]

Thanks for the Pre-Seed info RoJo, MrsJackson, & MrsR! I ended up ordering from early-pregnancy-tests.com. Their 6 pack is also $17.50 with free shipping plus you get 2 free PTs. So that's all taken care of. :)

Chris~n~Jen - Just noting that if you didn't throw out your CD 16 and 17 temps, and if your O date was actually around CD 18, then it is possible today's temp could be an implantation dip at 7 DPO. :D I guess we'll have a better idea depending on whether AF shows in the next day or so...

ETA: also Chris~n~Jen, just noting that just because you normally get AF on CD 24 or 25 doesn't mean you always will - it all depends on when you actually O. The period from O to AF is usually pretty set, but when you actually O could vary. So if you O'd on CD 18, then you probably wouldn't get AF on day 25, but rather later, depending on how long your LP normally is...You probably already know this, but some of your prior posts made me think you were focusing on the the normal length of your whole cycle more than on when you O'd and the normal length of your LP...

Anyway, keeping my fingers crossed for you!
Your right, I to tend to look more at my total cycle length than my LP. However, for the last almost two years that I've been keeping track, AF shows on CD24 or CD25. One time I went to CD26 but that is it. So I don't know what that means since looking at the last three months of charting, I am not Oing on the same date. So my LP isn't always the same. So confused. :confused: Thanks for analizing my chart fsb! That part of charting is still difficult for me. I hadn't even thought about the discarded temps.


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Well the spotting has started, just like I knew it would. :mad: It will turn into full fledged AF by the end of the work day. Luckily/unluckily (still not sure) AF is very light and I usually only have to deal with her for a day or two. So now my Pre-Seed is ordered, my baby asprin is on standby and I'm ready to go this cycle. Come on January 12th, 2007 baby!

[Ryan]

MARTEN:

I am not sure if you remember me but I was with you in TTC until I got + in October and I AM SO THRILLED FOR YOU... I have been checking in on you periodically and I am so glad to hear all is going WELL FOR YOU... YEAH YEAH

:D

Ryan

[tealynn]

Big fat congrats Marteneym That's amazing news!

Chris~n~Jen I know about green tea and Robitussin but what's the deal with baby aspirin?

As far as FPS goes, I've been feeling nauseous all day...but then again my husband has the flu, so maybe I'm reading too much into it :rolleyes:

[Chris~n~Jen]

Chris~n~Jen I know about green tea and Robitussin but what's the deal with baby aspirin?


Low dose baby asprin is thought to help thicken your uterine lining. We talked a bit about it in the old thread. Here is the link (http://www.constantchatter.com/showthread.php?t=17373&page=20) to the page where I quoted a source talking about the effects of baby asprin. I've learned so much reading these threads. Green tea, Robitussin, baby asprin, Pre-seed, the list goes on.... :rolleyes:

[polkadot]

i am a crazy person...one second I am looking up how much the sticks for the fertility monitor cost and the next I am overlaying my chart on PG charts in the chart gallery on FF. I think i have multiple personalities....:rolleyes:

I am crazy!!! I was doing a little digging and my longest cycle not counting the m/c was 33 days...i am not going to test until i am past that day and I mean it...that means I will not test until...Saturday...oh god i cant wait for this week to be over...hopefully it is a very happy easter!!!

Oh PS: Brian swears I am Pg...he says he can feel it...although one night af we bded he did say ...yep, that was it...i just know it...he is a trip...i hope he is right!!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updtae to Here
Congrats marteneym!

Welcome RoJo!

[fsb2005]

polkadot - good luck, and hope the wait goes quickly! That is a nice looking dip you've got going there at 8 and 9 DPO. :D

[phillytiger]

OK - dumb question alert!!! And sorry if I missed this - does Robitussin actually increase the amt of CM you have, or just "bring it out" so you can check it on TP?

[marteneym]

Thanks so much MrsR, Ryan, tealynn, and charting for the congrats.
And yes of course I remember you Ryan. How is your pgcy going?

[JayJay]

Congratulations, marteneym! H & H 9 Months to you!

[janu98]

This is my info:
Janu98
Me: Mona/27
DH: Abdullah/30
Married since: Sept 4, 2004
Off BCP since: Nov/05
TTC and Charting since: Nov/05
Known issues/test results: none

I am going to start charting on cycle day 1 (LMP 3/21/06)
Any help would be much apreciated!!

[phillytiger]

Congrats marteneym!!!

Welcome janu! Best thing we can tell you is not to worry - it's all a little confusing at first ;) and NEVER hesitate to ask questions here - there is no such thing as TMI around here :D

[JayJay]

welcome, janu98! Hope your stay is short and sweet! ;)

[Bellefior]

Stopped by the drugstore across from work to pick up some HPT's. I'm debating whether or not to test on Easter Sunday if AF does not show before then, which would be DPO 11 for me (not officially late). But since both my ILs and dad will be at our house for dinner that day, I may just end up waiting until Monday. (Memo to self: move HPTs and OPKs out of vanity in master bath to half bath in the event that ILs or Dad go under there to look for the extra toilet paper. That's all I need is for them to see that stuff in there.)

I always get my tests at the CVS across the street because there is a self-scanner there and I am self conscious about buying that stuff. Well, wouldn't you know as I was using it today, the scanner starts telling me that the product placed in the bag does not match the weight of the scanned product. The clerk -- a guy of course--had to come over to help me. Thankfully, it wasn't the box with the HPTs and was at the end of my scanning (bought my Easter candy too) so the HPTs were already in the bag!

[MrsR]

bellifor -- your cvs story reminds me of the commercial where the guy is using a self scanner to buy wart cream and the machine keeps shouting out "wart cream, wart cream, wart, wart, wart, wart" and the poor guy looks so mortified . . . :D :D :D

[miaclear]

Chris~n~Jen....looks like we had the same idea peaking in over at the Dec mommies thread and looks like it backfired on both of us :( Hopefully we'll see each other in the Jan mommies thread!

[pocahontas]

YAY! ROJO!! You finally made it here! :D (I've only been waiting for you to join for forever! LOL :rolleyes: )

Okay, totally pissed because today FF moved my O date (although I knew I O'ed on Friday just based on the pain and CM). But it initially gave me Wed as an O date. I was cautiously happy with Wed because we'd BD'ed the day before, the day of and the day after. But now that they moved me to CD 20 (Friday)...we only BD'ed Wed and Thurs. :( We didn't on Friday and Saturday. Yeah, I know that is still pretty good, but geez...it would have been LOVELY had I O'ed when they first predicted. *sigh*

[RoJo]

Hey Poca! I am here and I hope I can keep up. Sorry to hear that FF changed your O date, I hate that. I pray that this is your month....

[polkadot]

Mrs. R~and the machine keeps shouting out "wart cream, wart cream, wart, wart, wart, wart" and the poor guy looks so mortified . . .

i love this commercial...i laugh out loud every single time it comes on...Brian still doesnt get it...:p

Belle~ I hope this is it for you...i am thinking about waiting till Monday...so that I dont ruin Easter if I get a BFN,....i will try and stop listening to the HPT that are already calling my name from the vanity!!\

I am still having back pain which is odd for me when Af is coming....who knows...i am trying to stay :cool:

[pocahontas]

Hey Poca! I am here and I hope I can keep up. Sorry to hear that FF changed your O date, I hate that. I pray that this is your month....
Thanks lady...but I don't know. I have been spotting like crazy all day (and AF isn't due 'til Saturday) and I think (if FF is correct) it is too early for implantation spotting because according to the adjusted dated I'd only be 3DPO. *sigh* :( I'm going back to read the section on "breakthrough bleeding" in my TCOYOF book. I believe they said something about this kinda thing. So maybe my lining is breaking down early 'cuz my temp has stayed so low (it's only bee 97.7 the past 2 days) and hasn't broken 98 like I was saying before I'm used to happening after O (low progesterone possibly?? That's what causes the temp spike right?) :confused:

[ABirney]

Hey everyone...
Welcome RoJo and janu!! Hope your stays are short and sweet.
Congrats marteneym!! H&H 9 months!
Sorry for those AF found and good luck to those testing soon.

I have a CM question... my TCOYF book is still packed up.... Does sr evaporate? I checked my cm today and at first there was a fair amt and it was somewhat stretchy but cloudy, but then it disappeared a few seconds later. But it had been almost 24 hrs since we bd'd... does it stay that long?? Or was it some funky CM? Don't know what to call it. Sorry for TMI.

[gymwidow]

Hey ladies. I hope you guys don't mind, but I probably won't be posting a lot of SO's for a bit. Things are really busy at work this week and I'm trying not to focus on TTC stuff anyway since we're taking a break from treatment this month, but I'll be lurking and posting occasionally and doing updates as often as I can.

Today is CD5 and I thought AF had left yesterday but I had some more spotting this morning. Hopefully that will end today. I decided to go ahead and use OPKs this month along with the charting, just to see if I can actually O on my own. I'll start those next week.

I'll be reading along and thinking of all of you!

[janu98]

Hey ladies thanks for the warm welcome!! Its good to know that we all have a place to get advice and support!

One of the issues i am dealing with is my horomnes, for the past few months i "feel" like i am preggers ex: sore breasts, fatigue, moodiness but then AF shows up. The only thing that i can think to be casuing this is my horomones. I have never been tested for my horomones levels so i made an appt with my gyno to finally tell her to test me. The thing that gets me is that she never takes me seriosly she always say nothing is wrong and just keep trying. Well these symptoms month after month are not normal are they?

[MrsR]

Hey ladies, sorry for all those who AF found -- she is a witch!!!

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I am truly perplexed. 12 DPO here and another 98.0 temp. I took a HPT and got a BFN (why am I surprised), but the perplexing part is after I took my shower I temped again (just to test my thermometer b/c I really think the battery is dying). Low and behold it gave me a temp of 97.3 :confused:. Um, isn't your temperature supposed to rise after you get out of bed and start being active???

[polkadot]

MrsR- we are cycle buddies i am cycle day 12 too...i had a slight temp jump but not looking to hard into that...I think 12DPo is still probably too early for you to test....I would give it two more days....and yes, i agree that your temp should have gone up after getting out of bed and taking a shower...you need a new thermometer girlie!!

janu- welcome hope your stay is short and sweet!

gymwidow~ we completly understand sometimes a break is the best medicine!!

[phillytiger]

Temp was down again today...I've told DH that he's "on duty" until it rises :-) Guess I should be glad my body lets me know when it's O'ing!!!

[ChicagoKate]

Hello everyone-- I'd like to join you all in the TTC journey. . . hopefully for just a short stay!

CC Name:ChicagoKate
Me: Kate, 31
DH: Chris, 33
Married since: 11.12.05
Off BCP since: 12.29.05
TTC since: 12.29.05
Charting since: 12.29.05
Known issues/test results: had a CP on cycle 2, took cycle 3 off from charting temps
Chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/c31c5
Current status: waiting to O

[lawgirl4]

janu98 - the symptoms you are describing are very common as plain old PMS symptoms. The frustrating thing about the 2ww is that pre-menstrual and pregnancy symptoms are often identical!

[phillytiger]

Welcome ChicagoKate!!! Where in Chicago are you? I used to live at Clark & Diversey...I LOVE Chicago!!!

[Chris~n~Jen]

Chris~n~Jen....looks like we had the same idea peaking in over at the Dec mommies thread and looks like it backfired on both of us :( Hopefully we'll see each other in the Jan mommies thread!

I know! I always peek into the mommies threads, although this was the first time I actually posted. I just want to know what is going on so that when the time comes to join I won't have to go back and read through several pages. It's sad really! Especially when I have to "unsubscribe" to the thread. I don't know why we insist on torturing ourselves this way. :rolleyes:


I've been super busy at work and it seems whenever I come in here to see what's going on, I've missed 4 pages already. This thread is busy.

Welcome to all the new charters!
Sorry to those (like myself) AF found! :mad:
Good luck to anyone about to test! :D

There, that should cover it.

I've taken to printing out a monthly calendar from Outlook and noting the dates we need to BD on. Starting on CD10 and going through CD20. Then I just post it on the fridge at home so DH can prepare himself. We had issues with him feeling like I only wanted him for his sperm and so forth. :rolleyes: He also doesn't like it to much when I say we "have" to BD. This is the method that we came up with so that he knows when I am possibly fertile and then it's just his duty to take over and impregnate me. ;) I think it makes him feel more in control of the situation and has been working out great for us the last two cycles since I started it. It's also his way of knowing when AF showed because the next months calander appears on the fridge on CD1. Just our way of communicating without it being the only thing we ever talk about. Which it was turning into there for a while. Just thought I would share our little strategy because I know for a while I was looking at different ways couples handled the situation of DH's feeling "used".

[janu98]

Thanks lawgirl4 but the thing that worries me is that i have these symptoms alllllllll month long. I am going tomm to see the gyno hopefully she can do some blood work and we can get to the bottom of this

[polkadot]

jen~ that is such a good idea..we had problems with DH feeling used only for sperm especially after out m/c but printing out a :game plan: and letting him feel like he knows what his job and plan of attack should be will probably help out a lot....i hope it works for you...I myself frequent the mommy threads just to see who i might be with I only posted once and it was actually when i go tmy BFP...so maybe i should hop on over there :rolleyes:

Fingers crossed for anyone testing and :mad: for anyone who just had a visit from AF....

[ChicagoKate]

Welcome ChicagoKate!!! Where in Chicago are you? I used to live at Clark & Diversey...I LOVE Chicago!!!

Thanks for the welcome! We live in Bucktown. I too LOVE Chicago, even though I'm a California girl at heart!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here.

Welcome Janu98 and ChicagoKate!

[MrsR]

well the spotting has begun :( :(. I just broke down crying on the phone with DH. I really thought this was our month.

To top it off, I just called my ob/gyn's office to schedule my CD3 bloodwork (according to them spotting is Day 1 :confused: ). Anyway, the woman who schedules the appointments was so rude and told me that the doctor did not have any room for me to come in on Thursday (CD3) and that Friday (CD 4) would be fine :confused:. Okay, if CD 4 was acceptable to have my bloodwork done, then why was my ob/gyn very specific that if CD 3 occurred over the weekend, I would have to go to the hospital to have my bloodwork done -- oh, and if all I am doing is having blood drawn, then why can't they take me anytime???? I left it with a request to have my ob/gyn's nurse call me to discuss since I don't trust this woman.:mad: :mad:

[fsb2005]

MrsR - I'm so sorry AF is showing! *Hugs* And how frustrating that the nurse was so obstinate on the phone - I hope when you talk to your ob/gyn's nurse she'll be more helpful...Keep your chin up - things will work out!!

[cowgirl]

Gymwidow:Sounds like you have a good plan for the month. Don't worry about not being around much taking a break from everything sounds like what you need.

Sorry to everyone that AF showed up for.
Fingers crossed for all the up coming testers.

HAHA To all of us who lurk in the mommie threads. (I am guilty of this)

I decided to start a new chart from the day my temp went down since it has stayed pretty low I think I just skipped AF last month which is not unusual for me. Other then that not much happening.

Welcome to a the newbies

[polkadot]

mrs.R~ so sorry that AF showed...i am hopign that if i am quiet she will fly right by and miss my house...we shall see tomorrow....((((hugs))) to you and ihope you get to talk to the doctor...nurses can be sooooo insensitive sometimes....:rolleyes:

[Bellefior]

Mrs. R, sorry that the witch showed. Ditto everyone else's comments to talk to the doctor. My doctor ordered CD3 Bloodwork for me if AF shows this month, and just gave me the lab slips and told me to come back to the office and the receptionist will just send me down to the lab, or to go the walk in clinic if it is a weekend. You don't need to see the doctor, so I don't know what different does it make if they are busy all day. A blood draw takes 5 mins tops and there is no reason for the nurse's nasty attitude.

[mrs_pell]

Sorry about AF, MrsR. That sucks. :( Hopefully the doctor called you back so you can get that labwork done. That woman probably had no clue what she was talking about. :rolleyes:

I *think* I O'd on Sunday because I got a decent spike yesterday and another higher one today. The thing is, though, my CM didn't really change much at all until Monday, which was I *think* EW (not really good at this CM thing yet) - the day *after* O (if I'm right about my O day). What sucks if it really was Sunday is that it was later than I expected, and DH planned a trip out of town for Monday instead of last week. :rolleyes: We still got some BD in on Friday and Saturday nights, so I know there's still a chance. I'm mostly just confused about the CM part. :confused:

[phillytiger]

Argh!!!! I was SO sure I was O'ing - I'm right in my usual window & had the pre-O dip. But today, my temp is right back where it was before the dip...:mad: We've been bd'ing away thinking our timing was good...

Things have gotten really stressful around here again - my mom isn't doing very well and is refusing to see a doctor. So I'm a little afraid that my body was ready to O, but the stress of the last 2 nights has caused my body to delay. :( Can someone take a look at my chart & let me know what you think??? Usually, once I've had the dip, my temp shoots right up, so I'm just confused :confused: Any thoughts? Think it's the stress?

Mrs R - sorry the nurse was so insensitive - hope you can talk to the dr or nurse & get your blood work done!

[gymwidow]

Mrs R, I'm sorry about AF. I've had my CD3 bloodwork done on CD2 and CD4 before. I think they just need to get baseline hormone levels, and those are pretty constant that early in your cycle. But you also don't need to see a doc for a simple blood draw! Sorry about the frustrations with that nasty woman!

phillytiger, stress can definitely delay O. Maybe your low temps were a pre-O dip? Hopefully you'll see a good jump tomorrow!

[polkadot]

13DPO 98.34 temp and BFN....:( :( :(

[fsb2005]

polkadot - your temps look soo good (chart stalking :) ). I'm surprised you got a negative this morning. Are you testing again tomorrow?

ETA: we cross-posted. So I guess I could pretend like I wasn't chart stalking. ;)

ETA again: do you think it's possible FF is off on your O date by a day or two? You might still be at 12 DPO or earlier - which could explain the BFN...

[phillytiger]

polkadot - hang in there - your chart looks great!!!

gymwindow - yeah, I'm hoping that's the case - I'm just used to it shooting straight up after the dip...I was hoping I'd O'd yesterday...but we'll see how it plays out...unfortunately my stress isn't going to ease up in the immediate future, so I'll just take it one day at a time...

Sorry all...I'm a little down today...the not O'ing isn't that big of a deal, just not what I expected this morning...

Off to run some errands...I'll be back later!

[polkadot]

Just posted this in my journal...so yes it is possible that I 'oed later than cycle day 17

ok...so i have been playing around with FF....

Here is my chart as it stands now...Research setting
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d

and this is it if I change to setting to Advanced
http://static.flickr.com/53/127445526_4db57d5e7d_m.jpg
Its hard to see b/c of where I uploaded it but it changed my O to day 21 instead of day 17 and that only puts me at 9DPO...so thats too early to get a BFP.

So back to square one...sitting here and waiting...:mad:

[ChicagoKate]

polkadot--your temps still look good. Did you ask a FF guide to interpret your chart? Did they move your O date? (ETA: looks like we cross posted. It's hard to know what's going on with your chart.)

FF gave me back my O date today and I am 5DPO. I'm still not sure about this b/c I think my two high temps were flukes due to the weather change here and too many blankets making my hot. I woke up feeling really hot those days. So--only time will tell! I'm acutally hoping that I O'd a little later b/c our BD timing would be better that way.

[MrsR]

polkadot -- sorry about the BFN, but your chart looks really good -- fingers crossed!!!

phillytiger -- stress can definitely delay Oing . . .

mrs_pell -- you don't have to BD on the day of O -- as long as you BD during the 3 days prior you are good to go :D. I am always confused about the CM thing . . .

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Thanks for all the kind words ladies. I am really not sure what is going on. TMI ALERT -- when I got home last night I put in a tampon since I thought AF was on the way. When I went to bed I went to change my "stuff" and there was only a tiny bit of brown blood on it. So far today, no spotting. Last cycle (which was the first time I ever spotted for any period of time before getting AF), I spotted for 2 days and then got a real light AF for 2 days and then 1 day of "regular" AF. We shall see what happens but my temp went up a bit today (may have been from the half beer I had last night when I was feeling sorry for myself, but a half a beer normally does not affect my temps).

I have a call into the nurse to talk with her about what to do if the spotting continues (i.e is this CD 2 for purposes of my bloodwork??)

[armadillo]

Polkadot, your chart is still looking good! Hopefully you were testing too early.

MrsR, hopefully you'll figure out what's going on soon!

[MrsR]

armadillo -- thanks, I hope so too!!!! Looks like AF has not showed up for you. When are you going to test??

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Well there was a bit more spotting on the "stuff" around 10 am but so far no more -- nurse still has not called me. I think no matter what I am going to keep my Friday appointment and have them draw blood -- either I will have gotten AF by then and they can use it for the "workup" or I am still spotting and they can tell me if I am PG. Fingers crossed temps stay up tomorrow and AF stays away :)

[tealynn]

Checking in everyone.

Polkadot, I don't know how to read a chart yet but from what everyone else is saying, lets just say I'm thinking big fat positive thoughts for you.

Sorry to everyone else who had AF visit—including myself.

12 DPO and based on my evil mood, the 1/2 pound container of gummy bears I've polished off and the spotting, I've determined this isn't my month BUT, I can start taking my temp in the morning and then I'll have a lovely chart for everyone to help me analyze!

Off to find some chocolate or someone to yell at.

[polkadot]

Kate~ yes...i did have a FF guide look at my chart and she saif to go with the day 17 O so thats what i went with.....i am not so sure anymore...either way i have to be hopeful b/c my temps are still up. Good luck to you!

MrsR~ maybe it was implant spotting and not AF ;) I hope thats a possibility for you. Good luck...you temp is up fingers crossed

armadillo~ your chart is looking good too. when will you test???

me~ i am hopin my temp stays up and that i eventually get a BFP...i am trying not to let myself get bummed out but its kinda hard...especially with a headache looming over me...:rolleyes:

[Bellefior]

Anyone know if having a short fuse is a pregnancy symptom? Then again, it could just be that I am having a really bad day! Everyone at work has managed to get on my last nerve.

Mrs. R. ditto what Polka said..I wouldn't count you out just yet until if (and when) the witch shows full force.

Sort of related question: does anyone else have the habit of figuring out when their due date might be based on when they O'ed??? Just figured out that if this is the month, it would be 2 days after Xmas--one way of getting out of Xmas dinner I suppose!

[ChicagoKate]

Sort of related question: does anyone else have the habit of figuring out when their due date might be based on when they O'ed??? Just figured out that if this is the month, it would be 2 days after Xmas--one way of getting out of Xmas dinner I suppose!

I do this every cycle. Then I figure out the pros and cons of having a baby then. So this cycle, if I get a BFN, I will be able to tell myself that it's okay b/c I didn't really want to have a December baby anyway. (I'm crazy like that).

[armadillo]

I'm not planning on testing til Monday. Then I can REALLY be sure AF is late. FF says Saturday, but last month, AF showed up the day after FF's test date. My chart was somewhat of a mess this month, possibly because I started going back to the gym.

[Smittenk]

Just popping in to say my fingers are crossed for all you ladies who are testing soon!!!!

[Chris~n~Jen]

Sort of related question: does anyone else have the habit of figuring out when their due date might be based on when they O'ed??? Just figured out that if this is the month, it would be 2 days after Xmas--one way of getting out of Xmas dinner I suppose!

I always do this. Then I stalk the "whatever month" mommies thread until AF shows. Totally obsessive, I know! :rolleyes: But I know I'm not alone. ;)

Lots of pretty charts out there. I'm keeping everything crossed for you all! :D CD3 and not a whole lot going on. This morning DH says to me "Since today is CD3, we'll need to start baby dancing next Wednesday, right?" I thought it was funny because not only did he actually say "Cycle Day 3", but also "Baby Dancing". So I can tell I'm rubbing off on him, also that he's paying attention to the calendar I posted on the fridge. I thought it was cute! :p

[JayJay]

Sort of related question: does anyone else have the habit of figuring out when their due date might be based on when they O'ed??? Just figured out that if this is the month, it would be 2 days after Xmas--one way of getting out of Xmas dinner I suppose!


Just a side note.....when you purchase a FF VIP membership, it automatically tells you your projected due date after you O. It's kinda handy! :D

[janu98]

Okay here is one for you ladies!!!

I took a OPK last week and the stick had two purple lines i guess meaning i have reached my O right? well DH and I did the BD before and after and a few days after that fine. Well i went the bathroom TMI and i have the EWCM today. Whats up with that? have i not Oed yet? should DH and I BD today? Im sooo fed up with this whole TCC thing. Please help

LMP 3/21/06

[JayJay]

You know, janu...I'm pretty sure they saw to BD every time you have EWCM, so it would probably be a good idea! ;)

If you're unfortunate like myself and have a DH that hates 'lovin' on demand I feel for you!

[janu98]

I think i will BD tonite! Mrsjackson i unfortuanly have one of those hubbies too!! you would think they would love this all this BD not so much on my end. I have to give my hubby advance notice if we are gonna BD crazy isnt it!!

[Chris~n~Jen]

I have to give my hubby a calendar ahead of time so he knows when we "need" to BD. I pretty much mark CD10-CD20 as fair game. So he can't really complain at any point during those days. I've actually found that he has been much more excited about BDing since I started the schedule. I'm the one turning him down towards the end of the 10 days. :o I think it was just the spurr of the moment "gotta bd now" thing that he didn't like.

[JayJay]

I think it was just the spurr of the moment "gotta bd now" thing that he didn't like.

Ah, now....your hubby and mine are completely different. ;) My hubby would much rather have spontaneous sex than have it planned out for him. Isn't it funny how everyone's different?

[MrsR]

okay, just stopping by to say the spotting appears to have stopped.

I finally talked to the nurse at my OB/GYN's office who told me she had no clue why the receptionist said I could not come in tomorrow for bloodwork. So, even though I am not sure what is going on (i.e. if this was implantation spotting or if AF is just up in my uterus waiting to visit tonight;)) I am going to have my blood work done tomorrow as according to the nurse, spotting is considered CD1 . . . wish me luck ladies . . .

[ChicagoKate]

Janu -- Couple questions for you re: the OPK. Was the second line the same shade as the control line? For OPKs, you need to get a dark enough second line to count as a positive test (it's not like a pregnancy test where a line is a line, no matter how faint it is). Also, did you do OPKs the days before and after this + one? You can often get + OPKs for a number of days in a row. So, if you only did it one day, you are likely still fertile and I would continue to BD. Hope that helps!

[pocahontas]

I always do this. Then I stalk the "whatever month" mommies thread until AF shows. Totally obsessive, I know! :rolleyes: But I know I'm not alone. ;)

You are soooo not the only one, JEN! :D LOL Right now FF has my due date as 2 days before New Year's Eve. So I have been in and out of the December thread and probably will do the same with the January thread when the start one 'cuz if you're due the last 3 days of a month you may as well consider you will go into "overtime" perhaps. :rolleyes:

[ABirney]

Hi ladies... hope everyone is having a great night!
Sorry to those AF found.
Hoping to see some BFP's soon... some nice charts out there!

[MSH]

A long time member of the WC/CC threads stopping by to dorp off some ~*~baby dust~*~

May all of you get your wish and start the journey to motherhood. I'm sad to see a few familiar faces in here still, but I know we will all be mommies one day :)

[mrs_pell]

Threadmistress ~ could you please move me to "think I O'd, testing around the 26th (whatever that testing range is)?


Sorry, no time for anything else...parents are coming in to town tomorrow and I'm still doing that last minute cleaning!! :eek:

[jodylovesscotty]

Threadmistress can you please move me to taking a charting break.

I dont' know whether I oed yet or not, but for this month it doesn't really matter. This whole TTC things is getting rather despressing. I started taking clomid last month and I got a yeast infection and thought nothing of it. Then this month I took clomid again and got another yeast infection. Which screws up everything because by the time I got it and took the medicine to clear it up (no sex during yeast infection) I was gettting a cyst removed on the outside. All they do is put a small incision in it and let it drain. Since it takes a week or two to heal, this month is completely out. I talked to my Ob/gyn about the yeast infections and clomid. I told him I wasn't going to take clomid anymore if it keeps giving me yeast infections. His remark was "you are going to let a yeast infection stop you from taking it?" I was fuming. He is a man so I know he has no idea how uncomfortable a yeast infection is. Next month we will just see what happens (no charting) since that has done a lot of good for lots of women here. Then we have an appointment in June with RE to start IUI. So that is my story, and I'm sticking to it.

I will continue to lurk and keep all things crossed for everyone!!!

[armadillo]

AF showed up today, complete with debilitating cramps! I'm once again waiting to O.

[ChicagoKate]

Can I be moved to Think I O'd testing 4/24-4/30?

My chart is looking a little weird. FF still says that I O'd but I'm not sure since I still have fertile CM. We'll keep up the BD until we know for sure.

Armadillo: Sorry to hear about AF.

[fsb2005]

jodylovesscotty good luck!

armadillo - sorry to hear AF showed... :(

ChicagoKate - that O date is awfully early. I have a feeling it's going to be a little later - I'd definitely keep BDing if I were you.

[polkadot]

sorry to all of you to whom AF showed her ugly face. I had a big temp drop today but I am not sure if it means AF is on the way or if it could be an implant drop if I think my O date was later....its confusing no matter what...

I'll keep you all posted...

[pocahontas]

JODY...thanks for sharing that. I have my big RE appt. today...I say big because it's the first time I've ever seen an RE and I'm petrified of having a "clomid" discussion for reasons you and so many others with horror stories have shared. This is only cycle 5 of TTC for me and I know you're supposed to wait 6 months before seeing an RE (a year if you're under 35 but since I'm 35 I don't fall in that category.) I am proactive and want to see what tests she might be able to run sooner rather than later. I just worry that she might suggest Clomid and I might FREAK OUT!:eek:

POLKADOT...your name tag is SOOOOO funny. I have been following it from "hopeful" to...uh what it is currently. :D LOL! (And I feel about the same. :rolleyes: )Threadmistress can you please move me to taking a charting break.

I dont' know whether I oed yet or not, but for this month it doesn't really matter. This whole TTC things is getting rather despressing. I started taking clomid last month and I got a yeast infection and thought nothing of it. Then this month I took clomid again and got another yeast infection. Which screws up everything because by the time I got it and took the medicine to clear it up (no sex during yeast infection) I was gettting a cyst removed on the outside. All they do is put a small incision in it and let it drain. Since it takes a week or two to heal, this month is completely out. I talked to my Ob/gyn about the yeast infections and clomid. I told him I wasn't going to take clomid anymore if it keeps giving me yeast infections. His remark was "you are going to let a yeast infection stop you from taking it?" I was fuming. He is a man so I know he has no idea how uncomfortable a yeast infection is. Next month we will just see what happens (no charting) since that has done a lot of good for lots of women here. Then we have an appointment in June with RE to start IUI. So that is my story, and I'm sticking to it.

I will continue to lurk and keep all things crossed for everyone!!!

[Bellefior]

Armadillo, sorry the witch showed....:(

I had another temp jump this morning and I'm wondering if my chart is starting to look somewhat tri-phasic??? But I am not getting my hopes up. I've had similar patterns in the past and have been very disappointed. I'm also starting to think I'm not going to start testing as early as I usually do because I have also been disappointed in the past. Definitely decided not to test Easter Morning because if its negative, I don't want my mood to affect our dinner guests.

I've been a total b*tch to my husband last night and this morning, and am still wondering if its because work is driving me crazy or if could possibly be hormone related??? I've also noticed in the past day or two I have been very hypersensitive to smells...picking up all kinds of scents that I never would have noticed in the past.

Of course, this could all be FPS and wishful thinking on my part, since it is only 8 DPO...

[fsb2005]

polkadot - Your chart is a little confusing. I'd put your O date at CD 18, which puts you at 13 DPO today. Doesn't make that temp drop look very good...but you never know! And if you did O later, then all bets are off.

pocahontas - good luck at the RE appt. Let us know how it goes!

Bellefior - your chart does look awfully nice...I'm sure it's so hard not to overanalyze every single possible symptom. I'd say testing a little later is a good idea.

[ABirney]

Good morning ladies!
Good luck to those that O'd!
jodylovesscotty hope the break does you good... and your infec. and cyst get better! Sorry about what the dr said, that was very insensitive of him.
armadillo sorry the witch showed.
polkadot let's hope AF stays away!!!
pocahontas good luck with your RE appt today.
bellefior yay for FPS... your chart is looking good!

Nothing much new here... FF still has dotted crosshairs for me but I really don't think I O'd. Better get busy cleaning... We're having Easter (first holiday I've ever hosted) and we still have all kinds of boxes from moving in the spare room and cleaning to be done! Yikes!

[Chris~n~Jen]

Threadmistress, please move me to waiting to O.

jodylovesscotty, I hope taking a break works for you.
Sorry about Af armadillo.
I say keep BDing ChicagoKate.
polkadot, keeping my fingers crossed for you.
Good luck at your appointment today pocahontas.
Chart is lookin' good bellefior!


I am finally breaking down and purchasing the VIP Subscription on FF. I kept saying that I wasn't going to spend the $$ because as soon as I do then I won't need it anymore. 6 cycles later, I'm finally purchasing it. Hopefully my theory proves true and I'll only get one months use of it. :p

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here.

[polkadot]

i sm still feeling cramping...i wish i had the slightest clue what the hell was going on down there...

I am supposed to go into the doc for cycle day 3 bloodwork and i called this morning because i knew i would wind up starting this weekend and worried about when to go in...the nurse was very nice and said that if I start anytime between tomorrow and Sunday just to call her on Monday...so thats the plan.

Question: Anyone here use a fertility monitor? I dont want to go out and buy the sticks if I dont need them But do i really need them for the first day.

ok...off to stalk..

[MrsR]

polkadot -- I have a CBFM and for my monitor (which I am sure is the same as yours) on the first cycle you don't start to POAS until CD6.


My temps were slightly lower this a.m. (but I think that was b/c I slept with my mouth open), when I re-temped 1/2 hour later and subtracted the .1 to account for the later time, my temp was back up to 98.1.

I went in for my CD3 bloodwork this morning. They are doing a PG test (just in case) but the spotting appears to be slightly heavier today so I think it is only a matter of time before AF shows up with full force.

DH scheduled his SA for next week and I am going back on Monday for my HSG test. Anyone else had this?? I think it is just an ultrasound to check to see if my tubes are blocked, but I forgot to ask this morning since I was so stressed out about giving blood (I am not a needle person).

[Bellefior]

Mrs R. an ultrasound is different from an HSG. If AF ends up arriving this month, the doctor scheduled me to have both done end of April. While there are some similarities between ultrasound and HSG, HSG is usually done by a radiologist and involves using dye (which is shot into your uterus/tubes) while conducting a radiographic study (think x-ray). The general idea behind it is to determine if the tubes are blocked. There may be other reasons, but that's the main one. Ultrasound is also used to get a picture of the uterus/tubes/ovaries but isn't quite on the same level as an HSG and does not use dye. Also, I was also told that the HSG must be done between CD 7 and CD 11.

[MrsR]

Bellefior -- thanks for the explaination. Monday will be (according to OB/GYN's office) CD7 for me since today is my third day of spotting. Not sure why they count spotting as a day, I would think they should only count "flow" as a day, but oh well. Still no word on blood tests, but if I am pg, I am sure they would call me to tell me . . .

[phillytiger]

Hi ladies!

Well, my body seems to be gearing up to try O'ing again - I'm sure it was the stress of the last couple days that caused it to delay even though I was SO close :) But EWCM is back today, so my fingers are crossed...

Chicagokate - I agree, that seems awfully early to be O'ing - I say keep bd'ing! :D
Polkadot - all my crossables are crossed!!!
armadillo - sorry about AF:mad:
bellefior - looking good - hang in there!!!

[LDS Angel 19]

For MrsR and anyone else wondering about what an HSG is like, there's a good thread on it... http://www.constantchatter.com/showthread.php?t=854&highlight=hsg

[marteneym]

Thanks for the congrats Abirney, MrsJackson, and phillytiger.
All crossables for all the ladies testing soon.
Sorry to those Af found. :(

[polkadot]

the spotting has begun.... :( :( :( :(

[fsb2005]

polkadot - sorry to hear about the spotting. :(

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I think I'm going to get AF today, and then I'll really just be waiting to O.

We haven't quite decided what we're going to do this cycle though. We've been talking about trying the Shettles method for a girl. Also, I realized that my due date if I got pregnant this cycle would be mid-January, which is a little too close to the holidays for my comfort (my mom had both me and my brother two weeks early).

So, I think we're going to do Shettles, but pretty conservatively. I need to pick a day in my cycle that we're going to stop BDing. The most conservative day seems to be CD 14, since the earliest I've O'd is CD 17. But of course if I O closer to CD 20 or 21, then I'd have pretty much no chance of getting pregnant. I think I'm ok with that though since I'm not crazy about the due date anyway...

So, we are TTC this cycle, but really conservatively and I'm doubting I'll actually get pregnant this cycle. But, I'm hanging around here anyway!

[ChicagoKate]

Sorry to hear about the spotting today polkadot.

FF took away my O date today, which I pretty much expected as my two high temps were likely due to the change in seasons here. So, we'll continue to BD this weekend as I'm guessing I'm right around O time right now. Good luck to everyone else this weekend and happy Easter!

[polkadot]

had darker spotting last night...and brownish this morning...but still no full on AF...damnit just hurry up and get it over with please...:rolleyes:

[cowgirl]

Phillytiger & Chicagokate:Hope you both cathc your eggs this weekend.

Polkadot:Sorry about the spoting hope it stops or AF just show so you can move on.

Sorry to anyone AF showed up for the last few days.
Good Luck to any up coming testers.

I though maybe I O'd a day ago (TMI felt very dry at first while bd last night.) but had a big temp drop which I am hopeing is an O drop. Then we would have a chance this month. Just have to wait and see this what my weekend temps are like.

Happy Easter everyone!!!!

[phillytiger]

Hi ladies -

polkadot - sorry it's torturing you...hopefully AF just gets here & gets it over with!

cowgirl - hope your dip is O!!!

My temp dipped again today, and EWCM was back yesterday, so I'm hoping my body is gearing up to O again - we bd'd last night so timing would be good if I O today!!! :D

Not much else to report here...slow day work wise (I'm working from home) and I wish the weather was better b/c I would go out & work in the yard this afternoon...but it's getting darker & darker. Maybe a good afternoon to curl up & take a nap instead :D (don't tell work!!!)

I'm sure I'll be back later, but happy Easter, Passover, or whatever you celebrate to all!!!
Lege

[pocahontas]

LATE congrats MARTENYM!

RE appt went well. Of course thanks to the 3 different sites I'm a part of I knew full well what to expect (and she probably thinks I'm anal because I went in there with a yellow legal pad of notes and questions. :D ) But basically she wants the usual tests...CD3 b/w (but then she wants more b/w 8 days after I get a + OPK to test for progesterone) , pelvic u/s and another HSG (she says the one I had in 2000 is too old to rely on.) So off to the races we go. Problem is of course she wants an SA and DH has folded his armed and completely said, "HELL NO!" He's freaked out by sitting in a room with a cup and some magazines/videos. I know from prior experience some places allow you to take the tube home, fill it in the comfort of your bedroom and then get it back to their lab within an hour or two. We are crossing our fingers for that type of arrangement because DH says that is the ONLY way he'll do it. :rolleyes: *sigh*

[Bellefior]

Problem is of course she wants an SA and DH has folded his armed and completely said, "HELL NO!" He's freaked out by sitting in a room with a cup and some magazines/videos. I know from prior experience some places allow you to take the tube home, fill it in the comfort of your bedroom and then get it back to their lab within an hour or two. We are crossing our fingers for that type of arrangement because DH says that is the ONLY way he'll do it. :rolleyes: *sigh*

We received the info on the SA but are scheduling it for after I have all my tests. FYI, in the pamphlet given to me by my hospital, they did say that you can bring your partner into the room with you. The sample must be collected, as they put it "by masturbation only" (get your minds out of the gutter people!), but you might want to see if that is an option to make it easier on your DH! They do let you take the specimen cup home, but they said preferred method is to do it there, since if you do take it home, you have to make sure that the sample is kept at room temperature while you get it to the lab.

My husband was sort of appalled by the thought of having to, well, you know, in some room at the hospital. I told him that I had had a mammogram in December, a pelvic last week, and if AF doesn't show up, am scheduled for a pelvic ultrasound (and explained to him exactly what it entailed) at the end of the month, in addition to the HSG where they would be shooting dye up my you know what. I then told him if he was expecting any sympathy out of me over the one little thing he has to do, he was talking to the wrong person!

Now on a more personal note. I've definitely decided not to test on Easter Sunday since Dad and the ILs will be there. Haven't decided about Monday yet. We are going to a family function next week, and DH said that if I did find out I was PG this week, we could announce it then. I told him that if I am PG, then we will not be announcing it at the function, nor to anyone else (including parents) until I have a blood test and a confirmation from a doctor. Of course, if I am not PG, I am sure we will be getting the inevitable question of "so when are you going to have kids" (or the variation, "so, are you trying"). I told DH that I may just finally stop being so nice about it and be downright rude and put them in their place by saying, "well, we will let you know when our fertility doctor lets us know, but thanks for asking." Now granted, we haven't seen the RE yet, and don't know if there is some reason why we are not conceiving, but we are undergoing the preliminary testing and the RE visit will be the next step. God willing, if we have to visit the RE, they won't find any major issues. While I hate putting such personal information out there for people who really don't have any business knowing, it might stop people from asking such intrusive questions.

[JayJay]

Hope everything is going well with everyone...I'm just posting to update....I'm on CD 11,and I haven't been temping. But I lost the battle with the OPK's....they call my name all the time. Can't get rid of them! ;)

I don't think that I'll O for another week of so....that seems to be about normal. I'm going to 'conveinently' get DH to BD about every other day, or every third day. We'll see if that works.

[MrsR]

hey ladies, I will try to post more this weekend (yay we got our new home computer yesterday) but still wanted to give you a quick update. No word yet on results of my CD3 bloodwork and my HSG is scheduled for Monday.

I am still spotting (just spotting uggh) and had a slight temp drop again today so I think AF is on the way. I am just hoping she comes soon b/c if she is not gone by Monday, I will have to cancel the HSG and reschedule for next cycle:(

DH SA is scheduled for Wednesday . . .

[Baby Lust]

Pocahontas, My DH was able to bring the specimen cup home. In fact, they didn't even offer to let him do it there. Which he wouldn't have anyway. :rolleyes: My dr said to do it whenever, and just bring it in within 45 mintues, and gave us the instructions. But she wouldn't let me start Clomid until we brought it in so that was incentive for both DH and I to get it done! Good luck!


~*~*~*~*~*BABY DUST*~*~*~*~*~
for everyone!!

[MrsR]

pocahontas -- the place DH is going to have his SA recommends he do it there, however my DH is going to pick up his "container" on Monday (as the office is next to the building where I am getting my HSG) and dropping it off on Wednesday -- his words were he would not be comfortable doing his "stuff" in a room where he knew thousands of other guys had done the same:p

[ABirney]

Chris-n-Jen and polkadot sorry AF showed.
MrsR Hope your bloodwork and other tests turn out good.
phillytiger and cowgirl catch those eggs!
pocahontas glad you had a good appt.
Have a good Easter, passover, whatever weekend everyone! We're having Easter here and I've been really busy getting ready, still have alot to do, but now DH is sick... bad chest cold. And he is at work for about 20 hrs today. Poor guy.

[pocahontas]

Thanks for all the info BELLEFIOR, MRSR, and BABYLUST. I tried to call and inquire today but I think they closed early for Good Friday. So I'll try Monday. Have a good weekend everybody.

[MrsR]

Well the nurse called me on my way home tonight -- all tests came back fine (I was on my cell so I didn't ask my levels, I will have to remember to ask what they were when my HSG test results are back).

Event though I am still only spotting, I know AF is on the way since my blood test came back negative. I just want her to show so that I can have my HSG on Monday. How weird that I actually want AF to arrive :rolleyes: . . .

Anyway, even though it is not official, Threadmistress, can you please move me to waiting to O? Thanks!

Hopefully next week I will have some answers!!!!

[Jess71903]

Just another note on the SAs. DH wanted to have it done because he was afraid it was his fault that we weren't pg yet. I went by and picked up the cup (in a brown paper bag with instructions). When he was ready, we went to a park (felt like teenagers!) and I "helped". We did it there instead of at home, because we live a good 30 minutes from the hospital and were afraid we wouldn't get there in time. The sheet said definitely within an hour, but preferably in 30 minutes. There wasn't even an option to do it "in house". Anyway, all was fine so DH can relax. Good luck to Mrs. R and Poca...I know it can be stressful!

[KristieB]

Hey ladies!

Sorry I have been MIA. I'll try to get caught up and do SO's later.

Threadmistress, please change my status to Think I O'd, testing 4/17 to 4/23. Also please update mine and DH's ages. He's now 26 and I am 27. Thanks!

SO far so good. 8 dpo and my chart looks great!

[polkadot]

Hi girls...well its offically...Af is here...:mad: :mad:

Threadmistress can you please me to waiting to O (again)

The only positive about this whole thing is that i am going on for bloodwork on Monday and hopefully he will give the green light to test the hubby. I'll keep you girls posted...

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here.

[mrs_pell]

Polkadot ~ So sorry that AF showed. :(

Not much in my world...in the slow 2ww. I'm mad because I missed temping the last few days because my parents were here and I forgot to set my alarm for 2 nights. This morning, I had did have my alarm set but turned it off before realizing it. I really wanted to temp since it was dpo 4-6 and I wanted to see if I got any kind of dip. Oh well...

[polkadot]

Hey girls~ thanks to all of you who sent me good thoughts about AF showing...I am off to the dr. tomorrow to begin bloodwork. Fingers crossed everyone. I am just realizing that if i get pregnant this next cycle...i wont have my baby until 2007! That sucks! Kinda makes me sad...oh well cant dwell on it...gotta keep on trying...Wish me luck tomorrow

Come on BFP's! How many more before we can shut down this thread?

[Bellefior]

I don't know why I torture myself like this. After the temp drop yesterday, I knew that AF was probably around the corner. I started spotting then completely stopped. So this morning, after my temp jump slightly and still no more spotting, what do I do? Take a HPT which of course was negative, then I started spotting again shortly thereafter, which was a waste of a perfectly good pregnancy test. Why did I expect this month to be any different? If AF is going to arrive, I wish she would hurry the hell up.

Of course, do you know what the first thing is that my wonderful husband says to me when I tell him yesterday that I was pretty certain that this month was not our month? "Are you going to be in a pissy mood all day when our parents get here?" Gee, thanks for being so f-ing understanding.

I put on a real good show yesterday afternoon and thought I had it under control. I actually was enjoying myself. But as I was trying to put part of desert together-homemade cannolis-for some reason the filling would just not set up properly and while edible (and still tasting good), it was a little too runny. So of course wonderful husband starts laughing, proceeds to tell me how he would have done it differently (he's a gourmet cook, and even though I was following a recipe and he's never made them in his life, he kept saying, I would do this, I would do that, and what he wanted to do was nothing even close to what the recipe called for), and asks if I am actually going to serve them like that. Now like I said, they were edible, the presentation was just not quite as good as a bakery's but hell, they were homemade! He wouldn't stop, kept telling me what I had done wrong, asked again if I was serving them like that, then makes some comment about Obi-Wan Cannoli, thinking he is being funny.

Well, at that point something snapped, and I said fine, you don't want them, you don't think they are fit to serve, fine we won't serve them. And I started flinging them off the desert tray into the sink. All 6 of them. I wasn't upset at the fact that desert didn't turn out the way I had hoped, I was upset about the fact he was being a complete a-hole. Of course, he starts yelling at me, what are you doing? I then used a few choice words, got my jacket and keys, and excused myself to our guests telling hubby to serve them coffee, and telling my ILs I was leaving the house because if I stayed any longer, I would end up killing their son. Then I went out for a long long walk and came back about an hour later. Apparently, while I was gone, my dad stayed out of it, but my ILs ripped him a new one, especially FIL telling him he didn't know when to keep his mouth shut (since our dining and living room leads off the kitchen, they pretty much heard most of it) and a smart man would have kept his mouth shut, eaten the cannoli, and told his wife they were the best he ever had! Not my husband, however. And after when he apologized, he said he was laughing with me. I told him since I wasn't laughing, he was laughing at me and there was a huge difference. Sometimes I just wish he would grow the hell up.

So that was my Easter. Not exactly the Easter present I was hoping for. We did everything right last month and our timing was as perfect as it could possibly be and it still didn't matter. I am absolutely dreading the DH family function on Saturday night and am probably going to send my regrets and gift to DH's cousin's shower which will be held in the next month or so. Petty? Maybe, but there is only so much that my psyche can stand.

The only "good" thing about this is I have CD3 bloodwork, ultrasound, and an HSG scheduled this/next week, and was able to project the dates correctly so I do not have to change the appointments. I'm also going to call the doctor's office tommorrow to find out about scheduling the SA. I thought that she wanted my testing completed first before scheduling his, but I may have been wrong and even if I didn't misunderstand, I don't see why it can't be done at the same time. Maybe we'll finally get some answers.

Threadmistress, can you please move me back to "waiting to O".

[fsb2005]

Bellefior - what a story! Sorry yesterday was so crappy...sounds like your DH just maybe isn't understanding how upsetting all of this is for you. I must admit though that the image of you flinging cannolis one by one into the sink is pretty hilarious. :D

polkadot - sorry AF showed. :(

[Bellefior]

fsb in hindsight, the cannoli incident is funny. And the best part...DH had just washed some of our china (even though I asked him to leave it to me) and it was sitting clean in the sink. After the cannoli incident, he had to wash them all over again. Serves him right!

[JayJay]

Bellefior, sorry your easter wasn't what you wanted it to be....and sorry that AF showed. She sucks pretty badly, eh?

As or me, I'm currently on CD 14. I'm not expecting to O anytime soon, but I've been using OPK's just to make sure. I've been drinking green tea, but I've noticed that for me, it produces more or a creamy/foamy CM than EWCM. Don't know if that's a good thing or not. Opinions?

[gymwidow]

Well, my body has gone right back to "normal". On Saturday, CD9, I started spotting again. Just like before the Clomid. You might remember what led me to the doc in the first place last summer was the fact that I would get AF, and then she'd leave, and then a few days later I'd start spotting and that would go on for weeks at a time.

Anyway, I emailed with my RE this morning and he said the only way to stop the spotting is for me to go back on BCP! He said I can take those for as long as I want and then as soon as we're ready to start trying again, stop the pills, get AF, and start over. I talked with DH about it and we decided not to do that. We want to start again in 2 weeks anyway, and part of the whole reason we took this month off was so that I could give my body a few weeks w/o sticking it full of fake hormones. I can deal with the spotting for 2 weeks, and then I'll go in for a hormone level check and if it comes back showing that I haven't O'd, then we can start right away with treatment again, without me having to get another AF first. Just having the last week without having to think about TTC and knowing that I'll have another 2 weeks of no TTC-obsessing has been great. I'm halfway to thinking positively again, and hoping that the injectables will work their magic quickly!

Bellefior, hugs. What a frustrating day! I understand a lot of what you wrote - been there, done that with my own DH very recently. I hope you feel a little better every day.

[phillytiger]

bellefior - sorry your Easter was such a rough day

polkadot - sorry AF showed

I think my body FINALLY O'd!!! I'll know for sure with one more temp tomorrow...but what a relief, I was beginning to think this stress was going to drag this cycle out forever!

Crazy day today, I'll try to check back in later!

[cowgirl]

POlkadot:Bummer about AF but great that you are going in for blood work. We need 3 BFP's before a new thread.

Bellefior:Sorry about AF. Sorry you sunday was so bad. Funny about FIL telling DH he needs to keep his mouth shut.

Mrs.JAckson: I believe green tea is suppose to increase CM not help with EWCM.

gymwidow: Sorry about the spotting. Glad you are enjoying your break.

I thought AF showed up saturday but ended up just being spotting. ugh then nothing yesterday. My temp did go up but sundays big jump could have been the couple of drinks I had because I was bummed out.

May start serious thinking of getting some testing done at the end of summer if we are not PG. (i have put it off because are no insurance coverage for that stuff.) Hope everyone had a nice holiday.

[JayJay]

Cowgirl, I guess I've been reading the wrong websites. I've stumbled across some that say that it helps produce EWCM, and then after reading your post, I've stumbled across somet that say what you're saying.....so confusing.

[tealynn]

Hey ladies,

Happy Monday (right!)

Bellefior—Sorry about your insensitive hubby but it sounds like things are better now, though. I definitely have a real joker for a husband. Everything is funny and everyone is bait.

This weekend I was visiting my parents and walked outside with the dog to let her do her business. I was just standing there and started swinging my arms back and forth (psuedo excercise) Little did I know I was on display through the kitchen window and when I walked back in 7 people were standing there swinging their arms just like me. Of course my husband was the instigator and thought it was hilarious. I felt like an idiot and was just glad I didn't decide to scratch my butt or something.

I guess it could be worse, right????:rolleyes:

Threadmistress, please move me to "waiting to O"

I just bought a BBT thermometer this weekend and I've been temping since Saturday. I guess I need to start my chart.

[Chris~n~Jen]

polkadot ~ I had the same thought the other day about the 2007 baby. It just seems so far away and I thought for sure we'd have our baby in 2006. Oh, well! Good luck with the drs tomorrow.

Bellefior ~ The thought of you pitching the cannolis in the sink is pretty funny. There have been a couple of cycle (in the beginning especially) when DH acted very insensitive when I found out it wasn't our month. He has since become much more sensitive after a couple cannoli throwing type incidents of our own. :rolleyes: Hopefully he'll be much more understanding in future having learned his leason.

MrsJackson ~ I always thought the green tea just helped to loosen whatever CM you already had. It doesn't really produce CM. But I'm sure I haven't done as much research as you, so you would probably know better. ;)

gymwidow ~ Glad you are able to relax this cycle. I think it was a good decision not to go back on BCP's for the next two weeks. Your right, it would have defeated the point that you were trying to achieve of giving your body a chance to relax- med free.

phillytiger aka lege ~ Yay for Oing. Hope you catch the eggie!

cowgirl ~ Sorry about the confusing AF. Hopefully you figure out what's going on soon.

tealynn ~ Funny story! You do need to get your chart going so we can all stalk it. :D

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CD8, not much going on. I did receive my order of Pre-Seed this weekend and we are all set to use it this cycle. Fingers are crossed that it works for us this cycle. This weekend I had a 1st b-day party to go to for my neices cousin (on her mothers side) and then we celebrated Chris's birthday. MIL & SIL were saying that the next baby needs to be in a different month. We have 2 March B-Days, 2 April B-days, 2 September B-days. Well they decided that Jan or Feb would be good months for a baby because we have no other b-days in those two months. Well obviously they are talking to me, since B&SIL have made it clear that they are not having any more children. So all eyes were on me. I just said, yea, those sound like good months. I guess that was their way on hinting to me. It was odd because Chris's whole side of the family has never really even talked about us having children before. If only they knew. :p

[MrsR]

hey ladies -- quick SO since I got in late to work today b/c of my HSG.

DH did come with me to the appointment, however, I decided he did not need to come in with me b/c once the nurse said it would be similar to a pap, the poor guy looked like he was going to faint (mental note to self, not sure how he will deal with childbirth if he got that freaked out about a pap).

Anyway, it was over pretty quickly, however I was in a lot of pain when they injected the dye. I am pretty sure I cried out a few times, but I honestly don't remember what I said. I felt so bad for the radiologist, he was a really nice guy and I seem to recall he kept saying things like "you are doing great" and "its almost over", however, I wanted to die. . .

Afterwards he showed me one of the x-rays (the one that basically is looking down on my stomach), he said my tubes did not appear to be blocked (since the dye went in pretty easily), however I think (I was still a bit out of it from the pain) he said something about there possibly being a cyst on my right ovary and something about my tubes leaking a bit :confused: :confused:. I need to remember to ask my doctor about that when I talk with her about the results.

I am still a bit uncomfortable and am wearing a pad for the first time since I was 16 :eek:. Hopefully the spotting stops soon . . .

[jessied1025]

chris n jenn & polkadot I too had the same thought after AF came about a week ago. I was really hoping to have a baby in 2006, but hopefully 2007 will be just as good.

bellefior Sorry to hear you had a rough Easter. I did have to laugh about throwing the cannolis in the sink!! I would have done the same thing!!

mrsjackson Hope the green tea works!!

gymwidow Glad to hear you have been able to relax a bit. Hang in there.

phillytiger Hurray for Oing, hope you caught the eggie!!

cowgirl Sorry to hear about the confusing AF. Hang in there.

tealynn Your story was funny! Good luck starting your chart.

MrsR Sorry to hear the procedure was a bit painful. Glad to hear that your tubes don't seem to be blocked. Hopefully the doctor can shed some light on the cyst the radiologist saw.

CD12 for me and just waiting to O. The last 3 days I have taken OPK tests and they all have been negative, but we have been BDing just in case! ;)

[JayJay]

MrsJackson ~ I always thought the green tea just helped to loosen whatever CM you already had. It doesn't really produce CM. But I'm sure I haven't done as much research as you, so you would probably know better.


No, No....you guys are probably right. My mistake was just reading what other women had to say about Green tea, and what it did for them. I even asked on FF, and they gave me mixed reviews....who knows. :D Thanks for setting me straight, girls. Sometimes I read what I want into things I read....
(i.e. green tea producing fertile cm... :o )
So, my next question is: If Green Tea doesn't produce more EWCM, does Robitussin? Or does that do the same thing as Green Tea? Anybody?

[cowgirl]

Mrs.Jackson:I believe the Robitussin will thin your CM so if you do get EWCM at all it will make it watery and if you have Creamy it will thin t an make it a bit more stretchy.

Thanks to all for you comments. I am wondering if I could have had O spotting. Keeping fingers crossed for that it be it and for my temp to go up in the next few days.

[JayJay]

Okay, this may be a dumb question, but is there anything you can do to produce EWCM?

I have only noticed EWCM one time in the past three-four years. I think I can safely say that I don't produce much of it....

[ptcrn]

I think you are right, Mrs Jackson. I've read several different places that green tea helps to produce EWCM too. Its Robitussin that only thins out the mucous you already have. Of course this is just from my own research on the internet too, it doesn't mean it is completely accurate! Hope that helps!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated To Here

[Jess71903]

Ok, I would like to weigh in on the green tea discussion. I drank it for the 1st time this cycle and I had noticible EWCM for the 1st time since I have been keeping up with that stuff. I think it does increase CM, whatever you have. That's just me, though.

[phillytiger]

I seem to remember that Green Tea helps to produce more while Robitussin thins it...but yet again, it's just what I've seen on the internet & on various boards...

[Bellefior]

Anyone have any recs on a good fertility monitor to purchase?? I think I may end up breaking down and spending the $$ for one.

[polkadot]

Belle~ I just bought mine on Ebay...i kept trying to bid and keep the price to a minimum but I kept getting outbid...i finally found one with a buy now option. I got it for $108 bucks with free shipping it was here in two days...this will be our first cycle using...i'll give a review at the end of the cycle...Good Luck!!

I tried the Robitussin...but it just thinned what i already had....i am going to try the green tea this month...i'll let you all know what happens...

I had my cycle day 3 bloodwork and then found out that my sister is having a little boy. He is the first boy grandchild...i cried a little...i am not sure if its because he's a boy or because this would be the time we found out what ours was...but either way... i am :cool: now...until later...:D


also...my grandmother...who is very **Catholic** gave me a prayer book today...it has some really nice prayers in it...for conceiving a child and an infant in heaven ...if anyone wants them ...PM me...i dont wanna impose on anyones beliefs...But at this point I am willing to try anything...

[stevesbabygirl]

I need to buy some tea for DH because he has tonsillitis; I'll have to remember to grab some green tea while I'm there!

[fsb2005]

Those who have/are getting fertility monitors - do you mind giving me your reasons why? We haven't been through a cycle of really TTC yet, so I'm wondering if there is something I should know. I'm thinking we'd just start BDing a couple of days before my earliest O and keep going until I know I've O'd.

Will that be harder than I think?

[MrsR]

fsb -- I have a fertility monitor and have been using it since September. I got it becuase I have very irregular cycles and was not planning on temping or using OPKs. Of course now I am using all three things (OPKs, monitor and temping) and I still think the monitor is helpful. It tells me more days leading up to Oing (as opposed to OPKs which just tell you when you are about to O and temping which confirms that you have Oed).

Many of my friends have used the monitors and raved about them. Unfortunately, I am the only one of my friends who has not gotten PG after less than 5 cycles on the monitor :rolleyes:.

[MichelleRenee]

fsb2005, I didn't use a fertility monitor but I did use OPK's. I was also charting at the time and always O'ed between CD20-25. The cycle I got my BFP I was having sharp cramping near my ovary (O pains) on CD14. I used an OPK that night and I certainly was Oing. If I didn't use that test I probably would have thought I was just having cramping and we would have waited another week to really start BDing.

Using a monitor is better because you can use it every day while using OPK's you usually get 7 in a box and you have to try not to use them all up before you O. Either way it is a good tool if you think you might be Oing earlier than usual.

[polkadot]

fsb~ we bought our monitor b/c i was convinced that its going to help.We have been trying for 11 months, this month...we had a m/c in Jan and i needed more info, to keep me sane..i was using OPK's and getting great results until i had a m/c then it got screwy...i wanted the monitor to help pinpoint my O days...and b/c it test for the same hormone (letenizing something i wanna say) and for the rise in estrogen...so its two things to look for instead of just one, like the OPK...i'll let ya know how it turns out...;)

the plan you are using sounds logical to me...thats what we did in the beginning I hope you get your BFP very soon...Good Luck!!

[Jess71903]

Polkadot- I think it's great of you not to want to impose religious beliefs, but I think if you want to post them , those opposed can just skip over them. I am not Catholic, and dont have any books of prayer or anything, but it definitely would not offend me. If someone feels differently, that's fine. Just thought I would cast my vote.

[polkadot]

jess~ the yare prayers to Mary...i if i am right, I dont think many other religions think she is a person you should pray to...so if ya want the prayer i can email ya or anyone else who may want it...but yes...i said its a catholic type prayers because its actually to Mary...:D

thanks for understanding:D

[gymwidow]

MrsR, I'm sorry your HSG hurt so much. Mine did, too, so I can definitely understand what you went through. Thank goodness it's a relatively quick test and not one that will need to be repeated! I hope your doc calls with the results soon, and that everything is all clear!

[polkadot]

I want to ask for an HSG. Is that something I should ask for or is it something my doctor should reccommend? I have heard mixed reviews...

thanks girls

[phillytiger]

3 DPO here and just chillin...trying not to start going crazy already :D

[Bellefior]

Polka, my doctor recommended it. Actually its part of the standard battery of tests (along with usually bloodwork, ultrasound and SA) recommended when couples have been trying and haven't been conceiving.

[pocahontas]

POLKA...I am having my second HSG in 6 years next week. I had one in 2000 and it didn't really hurt but I suppose everyone is different (cramping wasn't even as severe as AF IMHO). I am told it hurts more when you have a blocked tube or adhesions or leakage or whatever. My tubes were all clear in 2000...so I am praying for the same next week. I was told to take a couple Tylenol or Aleve before the appt. just in case of pain (which I did). I guess if your doc hasn't recommended it they must not be concerned (and in fact since you have actually conceived before that is probably why your doc isn't concerned...whereas I never have). The mere fact of conception pretty much rules out any tubal issues which is all an HSG really tests for according to my RE.

[polkadot]

thanks girls...i am hoping that is his way of thinking...but if my tubes were somewhat blocked wouldnt that explain why we conceived once and not anytime after that? Well I guess it doesnt matter...I am going to call again on probably Thursday and see what they tell me...I cant believe that next month will be a year that we have been TTC. that is absolutley amazing to me since my family members seem to get PG when their Significant others look at them. Oh well...I've got my monitor and prayer...i cant try any harder than that right?

thanks for all the advice!!

[pocahontas]

...but if my tubes were somewhat blocked wouldnt that explain why we conceived once and not anytime after that?
You do have a point...couldn't hurt to ask to have one done. From what I was told though if your tubes were blocked it would prevent the sperm from even reaching the egg. Hence, no conception possible at all. But I'm sure someone who is more of an expert than I can clarify if I'm mistaken. Again, I think if anything having one would just rule out one issue for your own sanity which is all that is important...peace of mind! :)

[polkadot]

thats probably what i will ask for. My doctor told me that he would be as proactive as i wanted him to be...and at first I didnt think i wanted to do so much but now...its a totally different story...

I am gonna call Thursday...I want to have a list of things to ask...

1. HSG?
2. What about the cycle day 3 bloodwork?
3. When should i do the 2nd set b/c I O late?
4. Are all your patients this annoying?

I think that about covers it!!

[pocahontas]

thats probably what i will ask for. My doctor told me that he would be as proactive as i wanted him to be...and at first I didnt think i wanted to do so much but now...its a totally different story...

I am gonna call Thursday...I want to have a list of things to ask...

1. HSG?
2. What about the cycle day 3 bloodwork?
3. When should i do the 2nd set b/c I O late?
4. Are all your patients this annoying?

I think that about covers it!!
POLKA I feel your pain. I walked into my RE last Thursday with a yellow legal pad full of my stats and a list of questions for her. I'm sure she thinks I'm anal, but she'll get over it. So you haven't had CD3 b/w either though, eh? :confused: I'm having mine this Friday and my second set she said has to be either 8 days after my first +OPK or CD 21 if I don't ever get a +OPK. (I know...just more mindless stuff to add to your list. Sorry. lol :p )

[polkadot]

So you haven't had CD3 b/w either though, eh? I'm having mine this Friday and my second set she said has to be either 8 days after my first +OPK or CD 21 if I don't ever get a +OPK.

No I actually did my cycle day 3 bloodwork yesterday...i would just like to know when they will give me the info from that draw. But good to know about the 8 days after the first + OPK, i will have to ask that question too. But no worries about giving me something else to think about...i can worry about things all by meself!! ;)

[Smittenk]

Threadmistress, can you please change my status to waiting to O and also add my chart (I finally got it to publish!)
http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=smitten

[MrsR]

Hey ladies, I finally talked to my doctor today about my HSG results. Basically the results were all normal. Although my right tube may have had some tmi alert mucous in it, some dye did come back out of the tube so it appears if it is blocked, it is not totally blocked. Also she said the radiologist did not include any mention about the cyst on my ovary he thought he saw, and my Dr. said that every month a cyst would appear on the ovary which Oed . . . I talked with her about the "leaking" comment and she said that while the radiologist did note that he used a lot of dye, that there was no mention of any "leaking" so it must have been one of those things where I thought I heard something that wasn't really said :rolleyes:.

Anyway, the gist of it was that if DH's SA comes back okay (he is having it done tomorrow), the next step is to put me on Clomid for the next 2-3 months to see if I can get PG. We did talk about the fact that I am Oing on my own, she just thinks this will give us more of a chance to get PG each cycle (especially if my right tube may be blocked).

I am just glad we have a "plan" in place, but now time for me to obsess about DH's SA :rolleyes: . . .

[polkadot]

MrsR~ that is good news that your tube isnt block totally and that at least you now have a plan. I am thinking that the HSG and the Clomid will be our next steps too. I too am Oing on my own but late by their standards. How long have you all been trying? This is our 11th cycle...:rolleyes: I am so glad you have a plan now all ya have to do is get knocked up...dont we wish it was that easy :rolleyes:

[Jess71903]

Looks like tere are several of us heading for the next step. This is out 9th cycle, although I have relatively short cycles, so 8 months, I think.

On the HSG- it is my understanding that you O from one ovary one month and the other the next month, so if 1 tube was blocked and the other wasn't then you would have 1/2 the chance of getting pg. That would make sense to me! Maybe you got pg polkadot on a cycle where you Od from the open tube. Not trying to scare you or anything, but I am to the point where I almost want something to be wrong so it can be fixed and we can get pg. KWIM?

[polkadot]

it is my understanding that you O from one ovary one month and the other the next month, so if 1 tube was blocked and the other wasn't then you would have 1/2 the chance of getting pg. That would make sense to me! Maybe you got pg polkadot on a cycle where you Od from the open tube
that would make perfect sense and thats what i have been telling Brian about...he thinks that i am freaking out too early b/c i dont even know if anything is wrong...but its been 11 months and i just need to know what is going on in there...i am thinking I will call tomorrow...thanks for all the advice girls..

[JayJay]

Well, today I've noticed a difference in my CM. It's become way more, well present if you will. Much more than normal. I must admit that I do hate taking the cough syrup, but it and the green tea seem to be making my CM more fertile, which is a good thing.

I'm not quite sure what CD I'm on, but we did alot of BD'ing this last weekend, and I'm hoping that I didn't wear my DH out because I'll be needing him soon! ;)

[phillytiger]

Threadmistress - please move me to I think I O'd - testing 4/24 - 4/30

And congrats to the MBFP :D

[JayJay]

For once, I actually have spied the MBFP! Congrats, girl! ;)

[pocahontas]

OHMAGAWD! I think I'm gonna cry...finally I get to spy a MBFP! :D This is my first sighting...so I'm excited. CONGRATS! ;) *cross your fingers that I join you in a couple days* ;)

[polkadot]

Yay!! Congrats to the MBFP...how many doees that make?

[Deanna1018]

Hello ladies...Yes, I am the mbfp!!!! I am trying not to get too excited because there have been some new developments since I got the BFP yesterday morning (three positive tests...not digital). I really wanted to take a digital hpt...which I did...in fact I took two yesterday evening and both came back as Pregnant but this morning I took the same two as yesterday (both digital ...e.p.t. and clear blue) and they said not pregnant. I thought the hcg was supposed to be more concentrated in the morning? Luckily I had two different test that I hadn't used (e.p.t and answer,,,,not digital). I took both of them and they both came back positive. So as you can see I am kind of in a state of confusion as to what to do as well as what to believe. My temp is still up. I don't know if I should call my Dr. I am fearful that I have already lost the pregnancy (and what is showing on my non-digital hpts is just left over hcg) or could it just be that my levels are still low. I am considering waiting to test until Friday morning (I have friday afternoon off) and see if I get a positive hpt. If I don't then I can probably assume I am not pregnant (my levels should be higher then, right?) but at least I could make an appt with the DR. that afternoon seeing as I will be out of work then. Or should I call the Dr. today. I just don't know what to do. The way I look at it the dr. really can't do anything for me except to give me a blood test today with a repeat done on friday to see if the pregnany is viable, But if I get a negative hpt on friday then I can probably safely assume that I am not pregnant, right? I don't know. I am disappointed and stressed about the whole situation...nothing comes easy for me..it is so frustrating. Any suggestions?

[cowgirl]

Deana: I would call your Dr. and get a blood test. I think it would give you better answers. Fingers crossed for you.

Well after a 70 day AF finially showed up yesterday it is lighter then normal but at least I can move on.

[lattee22]

Hey all. I wanted to drop by to let you all know I had a miscarriage with my March BFP. I started bleeding on April 2. I am doing well despite everything. My DH and I have decided to take a bit of a break from charting and just see what happens for a month or two and go from there. I might still drop by if that is okay? :)

Congrats to all the BFPs!!!!! I am wishing you all a H&H 9 months!

[fsb2005]

Deanna1018 my fingers are crossed for you. All those positive tests have to mean something though, don't they??

lattee22 So sorry to hear about the miscarriage. It sounds like you and DH are handling it really well though - taking a charting break and relaxing a little sounds like a good idea.

[ChicagoKate]

lattee -- I am so sorry to hear your news. I had a CP recently and also felt that the month off of charting helped me out. It also drove me crazy too! Good luck to you and hugs. . .

Deanna -- I would get a blood test just to put your mind at ease. I wouldn't wait until Fri to do it b/c I believe you would then have to wait until Monday for your results. Maybe go today or tomorrow? I think that some women do not have good results with FMU as they do later in the day. I'm rooting for you.

As to me, accoriding to FF I am back to waiting to O, which is cool with me. DH is feeling used and abused this month but I told him that most husbands would be jealous so suck it up!!! Good luck to all the upcoming testers!!

[MrsR]

latee -- I am so sorry about your miscarriage. {{{{{hugs}}}}}.

Deanna -- I would get a blood test just to be sure. Definitely go today or tomorrow so you will know before the weekend.

polkadot -- DH and I have been actively trying to get PG since June of last year, so technically 10 months, but since I am over 30, I am sure that played a factor in my OB/GYN's agreement to start running the tests even though it has not been a full year.

cowgirl -- not really glad, but I know you must be happy to move on since AF finally showed up!!!

phillytiger -- fingers crossed for you this cycle.

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Well DH is currently at home collecting his sample. He made me leave the house b/c he felt uncomfortable with the thought of me "knowing" what he was doing -- can you say Catholic upbringing;). Anyway, He is going to drop it off on his way to work and then we will have a few days of twiddling our thumbs before the results are sent to my doctor. I am leaving for a business trip tomorrow and won't be back until Sunday but hopefully the results will be in on Friday and I can just call my doctor from the road.

Looks like from my research on Clomid that I have missed the window to take it this month (usually you take it days 5-10 from what I can tell), so I guess if the SA comes back ok, I will start Clomid on my next cycle . . .

[polkadot]

latee~ So sorry for your loss...(((hugs)))

Deanna~ I was in the same situation in Jan. I felt better knowing what was goig on instead of just waiting aroudn to see what would happen. I cant sit by and let things happen...I have to know. KWIM? I hope you get answers soon....Thinking Positive vibes for you...

cowgirl~ Sorry she showed but you sound like you at least have a plan...

phillytiger -- Good Luck...i hope you catch the egg

MrsR~ Its funny that he made you leave the house...My hubby would proabably do the same...Men...:rolleyes: Good Luck I hope you get the answers you are looking for...

Me~ I am off to call the doctor...i need answers...:D

[Bellefior]

Question for those who have had an HSG

Do you know if you are prohibited from BDing for any time after the exam?

DH's SA is scheduled the day after my HSG (day 10, well before usual O date) and am just wondering if that is going to hinder TTC this month. Thanks.

[pocahontas]

BELLEFIOR...I gave you some info on that in the 35+ thread.

LATTEE: I'm so sorry, but glad you and DH have adjusted and are moving on (as hard as it must be). {{{hug}}}

DEANNA: If I am counting correctly you have taken 7 tests! And 5 out of 7 positive is a MAJORITY...so I'm gonna say you are pregnant! :D *just sending you some positive "CLAIM IT" type vibes* But go for the blood test ASAP just so they can give you a Beta number (I heard anything over 20 is pregnant...is that true?)

Okay, I am at a loss right now. I am 12 DPO. If I last 'til tomorrow with no AF I will have exceeded the number of days of any LP I've had since I started charting. AF is due today but the crazy thing is I have been spotting off and on for the past 72 hours. (This has never happened). When it started Monday I figured it was AF on the way. But it stopped. Then it was back yesterday and stopped. Now it's back today. But no AF...just a few brown spots here and there. Boobs were killing me yesterday and temp is still up...98.2 today (which is a tenth of a drop from yesterday's 98.3) And when I tested today with FMU I got a BFN. So I don't know if the hag is coming ('cuz I wish she'd just come on and get it over with and stop playing games :mad: ) or if it was too early to test and I should wait 'til tomorrow. What makes it more confusing is that my temp has NEVER stayed up this long...EVER. By 11 DPO I'm somewhere back down between 97.9 and 97.6 with the witch not far behind since she always comes by 12 DPO. This morning I noticed I was dizzy and had the worse hunger headache just a yucky gross feeling. Had a fruit salad and I still feel blah (mostly dizzy). FPS? Who knows! This is just driving me crazy...so I had to vent. Guess I'll just be :cool: *Sigh*

(And to make it more insane I had all my tests scheduled with the RE based on AF coming including b/w Friday, my HSG and u/s on Monday and DH's SA on Tuesday! So if I get a BFP and have to cancel all that it will be so weird! :p)

[Chris~n~Jen]

Deanna ~ Cautious Congrats. I agree with pp that you should call the drs asap.

cowgirl ~ Yay for AF! How funny is that to say in here.

lattee ~ Big {{{HUGS}}}! I am so sorry for you. I think you guys have a good plan.

ChicagoKate ~ It's funny but this whole TTC business seems to make most of the DH's feel used. Going into this I thought it would be just the opposite but sure enough DH had some "issues". :rolleyes: Crazy men!

MrsR ~ Hope you get good results from DH's SA.

polkadot ~ Hope you got the answers from the dr.

Bellefior ~ Sorry, I'm no help there. I haven't had to have a HSG yet.

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CD10 for me. Starting the OPK's today. The fun actually began yesterday as DH was feeling rather frisky. The calendar thing really works because I can definatly tell a difference in his sex drive on the days I've marked on the calendar. :p I really think it's just a mental thing for him, but hey, whatever works, right!

[Chris~n~Jen]

pocahontas ~ Fingers crossed for you! Sounds promising!

[pocahontas]

I really think it's just a mental thing for him, but hey, whatever works, right!
You said a mouthful, JEN! :D It is whatever works! And thanks for the fingers crossed!

[Chris~n~Jen]

You said a mouthful, JEN! :D It is whatever works! And thanks for the fingers crossed!

I know! I'm a bit wordy in person also. My parents used to ask me if I ever took any breaths while talking. :rolleyes: Can't help it I guess. :D

[ChicagoKate]

pcohontas -- I'm thinking your spotting could be implantation spotting which occurs 7-10DPO. 12DPO is still pretty early for testing. I think you're still in! Babydust to you and keep AF away!!!!

[polkadot]

pocohntas~ I think you have a very good shot...fingers crossed for you...you need to ge that chart published so we can look at it ;)

[jessied1025]

Deanna Quiet Congrats to you! Here's hoping your BFP stays true!!

cowgirl Glad to hear AF finally showed up, so you can move on.

lattee I am so sorry to hear about your miscarriage. BIG (((HUGS))) to you!! Feel free to stop by whenever you like.

MrsR Crossing my fingers for postive test results from you DH SA.

polkadot Good luck talking with your doctor.

pocahontas I have everything possible crossed that this is your month!!! :)

CD14 here and DH & I have been BDing and hoping to catch the eggie!!!

[pocahontas]

pcohontas -- I'm thinking your spotting could be implantation spotting which occurs 7-10DPO. 12DPO is still pretty early for testing. I think you're still in! Babydust to you and keep AF away!!!!
Yep, that's what I thought about implantation but I thought it was just one day of spotting and it was over! That's why I was so skeptical that this was it. :confused:

pocohntas~ I think you have a very good shot...fingers crossed for you...you need to ge that chart published so we can look at it ;)LAUREN: I swear I have tried with that chart! I put it in my profile thinking somehow that would link it but NO DICE! :mad:

THANKS JESSIED!

[polkadot]

Pocahontas~ Do you use Fertility friend or Ovusoft? I might be able to walk you through it...


So~ things have changed a little ...I talked to the doctor...he said that he doesnt want to do an HSG until he gets my bloodwork back...so thats off until at least next cycle. He is happy that I bought the monitor and he says I should still take the baby aspirin if it makes me feel better...He doesnt think it has anything to do with why i m/c but he says what ever makes me feel better...do it..I have to call them on cycle day 20 and they will make me an appt for the cycle day 21 bloodwork. I asked about me Oing on days 18-21 and she (nurse)said dont worry...if i dont O until that time...the bloodwork will show it and then they can decide the next step. I am thinking I will probably get an Rx for Clomid...i have heard and seen many people who benifit from this even if they are Oing in their own. A wise and now PG momma (you know who you are )told me it gives the spermies more targets. I agree! I am up for anything at this point...

Tomorrow is when the monitor will begin askign for me to POAS and that will become my new obsession but at least we have a plan...

later girls...

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated To Here

[Bellefior]

Weird...TMI alert...looks like AF has stopped??? And it never really came on full force (spotting since Sun and I had thought today was CD 2). I'm usually bleeding very heavily at this time, so I called the doctor's office (for the second time today) and left a message for someone to call since I'm supposed to go in for CD 3 bloodwork tommorrow? I haven't taken any HPTs in the last 2 days because the previous ones were BFNs, but this is so weird....I wish my body would figure out what the heck is going on. If I take out the codes for AF these last 2 days, my chart shows that my temps are still way above the coverline for the last cycle (98.4)?

[fsb2005]

Bellefior - that is interesting! You had a dip there at 11DPO - a little late, but could be! Keep us updated!

[polkadot]

just went back to check that..yep..that could be a dip and your temps could have just been leveled off...take a test or call the doc...ohhh this is making me want to bite my nails...

[Deanna1018]

Thanks for all you well wishes. I called the Dr. this morning and the secretary sent me for bloodwork...yes I did say the secretary. I guess she knows how my doctor operates. Anyway before I called her I took another hpt...yes another one and it came back + so it put my mind at ease a little. I just got back from the bloodwork. I have to call tomorrow in the afternoon for my results. Of course finding the time to call will be a very hard as I have a full schedule tomorrow and a meeting after lunch (which is when the office Dr's office opens) and then another packed schedule of patients. So I think what I will have to do is drive by myself to the meeting...I'll tell them I have to run an errand before I go to the meeting and then I will be able to drive by myself (we usually drive together) letting me calling the dr. on my cell phone on my way back to work. Nothing is ever easy, is it? I am trying to stay optimistic but not get too excited until I have confirmation. Thanks again. I will be sure to post tomorrow evening when I get home from work.

Oh by the way I had an extra hpt so I took it when I came home from work and guess what it was...a +. (I am such a poas addict..I better stop before I go bankrupt).

[ABirney]

Hey ladies...
Deanna congrats! Hoping to hear good news from the blood test.
lattee so sorry about the m/c.
I am way behind on the thread so hi to everyone else and hope you all are doing well.
Well I found out on Easter that I'm going to be an auntie again... DH's sister is due in Sept. (her youngest will be a year old in 2 weeks, and she has a 6yr old and a 13yr old.) I guess she didn't tell anyone right away because she was having some issues with spotting and the tech not being able to find the heartbeat on the ultrasound (or something like that) but she went back to the dr last week and all was fine at that time.
Hope everyone has a good day!

[Bellefior]

Deanna Congrats!

Lattee, Sorry for your loss. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

Well the doctor's office finally called, and of course by the time they finally got around to calling me, my doctor was gone for the day. The nurse managed to track down another doctor, who basically told her, that if I were his patient, he'd skip testing this month entirely and just do all the testing next month. So I have to wait until they call me tommorrow morning to see what my own doctor wants me to do. It would really suck to have to cancel all my tests and wait another month.:(

DH also gets another blue ribbon this week for being an insensitive jerk. When I told him all this over the phone, and how I thought it sucked, I got in response "what would you like to have for dinner?" :eek: I nearly lost it, but kept my cool and asked him why he completely ignored what I had said. He said that while he had heard what I had said, he was trying to get my mind off of it and make me feel better. I told him making me feel like he was ignoring the situation did not make me feel better in the least. I wonder if there is a book out there I can give him to read to teach him how to be more sensitive--somehow I suspect he would not read it.

In any event I will update after the doctor's call in the AM.

[fsb2005]

Bellefior - when was the last time you tested? Can't they get you in for a blood test or something? It just seems like, while it's nice to hope, it would suck to miss this month if you aren't pregnant. In the grand scheme of things of course it's no big deal, but of course it won't be fun emotionally this month if it turns out that way...I say - test!

[polkadot]

i say test too!!! You might be pleasently surprised!!

[pocahontas]

Weird...TMI alert...looks like AF has stopped??? And it never really came on full force (spotting since Sun and I had thought today was CD 2). I'm usually bleeding very heavily at this time, so I called the doctor's office (for the second time today) and left a message for someone to call since I'm supposed to go in for CD 3 bloodwork tommorrow? I haven't taken any HPTs in the last 2 days because the previous ones were BFNs, but this is so weird....I wish my body would figure out what the heck is going on. If I take out the codes for AF these last 2 days, my chart shows that my temps are still way above the coverline for the last cycle (98.4)?BELLEFIOR! We are in the same boat! It sounds like you are going through the same thing I am because I've been spotting on and off since Monday (in fact it stopped all afternoon and is back lightly now). :confused: But my temps are still up and as of tomorrow I am 13 DPO which I have never made it to without AF. 12 DPO was the record. FMU gave me a BFN at like 5 am today though. Thinking of waiting until late in the afternoon tomorrow to maybe test again??? (BTW...my CD 3 b/w is scheduled for Friday! So I feel your pain...looks like if nothing else we are cycle buddies! lol :rolleyes: )

[pocahontas]

YEP, LAUREN...I am on FF. So if you can help...feel free!Pocahontas~ Do you use Fertility friend or Ovusoft? I might be able to walk you through it...


So~ things have changed a little ...I talked to the doctor...he said that he doesnt want to do an HSG until he gets my bloodwork back...so thats off until at least next cycle. He is happy that I bought the monitor and he says I should still take the baby aspirin if it makes me feel better...He doesnt think it has anything to do with why i m/c but he says what ever makes me feel better...do it..I have to call them on cycle day 20 and they will make me an appt for the cycle day 21 bloodwork. I asked about me Oing on days 18-21 and she (nurse)said dont worry...if i dont O until that time...the bloodwork will show it and then they can decide the next step. I am thinking I will probably get an Rx for Clomid...i have heard and seen many people who benifit from this even if they are Oing in their own. A wise and now PG momma (you know who you are )told me it gives the spermies more targets. I agree! I am up for anything at this point...

Tomorrow is when the monitor will begin askign for me to POAS and that will become my new obsession but at least we have a plan...

later girls...

[polkadot]

ok heres what ya do pocahontas~

Go to your your chart....click Sharing, then slide down to Home Page Setup...then copy the address that you see in the very top box...it will be something like http:www.fertilityfriends.com/home/and some numbers...then paste it into this thread and the moderators will take it from there...

Come back here if ya get confused....

Hope that helps..:D