TTC w/Charting Vol. 18 Hoping for some BFPs to fill our easter baskets.

[Sherb]

Well, I think I o'd this month and we BD'd almost every day for the week before the O. Tomorrow's temp will confirm O but I'm 99.9999% sure. So...
Threadmistress, please move me to Think I O'ed- Testing 4/24-4/30

AF is not expected until the 30th so I'll try to hold off testing until then.

[gymwidow]

Hi ladies. Not much to report here. CD14 and just hanging out. I don't have much hope of Oing on my own this month, so I'm just relaxing and waiting till we get back from a trip next weekend so we can start treatment again. I am happy to report that I've had no spotting for almost 48 hours! :D Hopefully that will continue.

Deanna, cautious congrats! I hope you get the official word soon!

cowgirl, yay for a new cycle! I hope this one is more normal!

lattee22, I am so sorry. Many hugs to you.

MrsR, too funny about DH making you leave the house. My DH initially thought he wanted me gone, too, but then I ended up "helping" him and I think he enjoyed that much more. :p Clomid is typically taken either from CD3-7 or 5-9.

Chris~n~Jen, I'm glad the calendar is working!

jessie1025, good luck catching that egg!

polkadot, I'm glad you have a good plan!

ABirney, congrats to you on your upcoming auntie-again status!

Bellefior, I am volunteering to come over and smack your husband around a bit and give him a little lesson on how NOT to be an insensitive husband! Just let me know when to arrive. :rolleyes:

pocahontas, good luck!

[pocahontas]

ok heres what ya do pocahontas~

Go to your your chart....click Sharing, then slide down to Home Page Setup...then copy the address that you see in the very top box...it will be something like http:www.fertilityfriends.com/home/and some numbers...then paste it into this thread and the moderators will take it from there...

Come back here if ya get confused....

Hope that helps..:D
Thanks! I think I followed all those steps except the part about posting the link here. I actually put it in my profile thinking that would work. :rolleyes:

Alright...ladies, IN YOUR EXPERT OPINIONS, what is the better brand of OPK to use. I just got through reading reviews on First Response and Clearblue Easy. The only brand I ever used was Answer and I thought it was just them that sucked but now I see people are pretty much disappointed with most brands that you have to judge the line against the control line because they look so similar. I know the digital ones are SUPER expensive (although they are probably the least hassle.) So does anyone have one they highly recommend?

[Bellefior]

Pocohontas I've been using the CVS brand with fairly good results, though sometimes it is hard to read and compare those lines. Haven't tried any of the others, so no help there. We're still debating as to whether or not to break down and spend the $$$ on a digital monitor but those things (and the test strips that go with them) are pretty darned expensive!

Still waiting for the *%&)$#* doctor's office to call to see if its okay to call today Day 3 and go in for my bloodwork. I talked to them yesterday and still didn't hear back from them. The message I left this morning said please call me so I can come in to the office today if need be, and not have to go and sit in the ER tonight for the blood draw! Of course, my concentration is shot to hell here at work (and yes AF finally arrived full force ).

[phillytiger]

Bellefior - sorry AF arrived - and hope you hear from your doctor SOON!!!

Latte - so sorry about the mc - hugs!!!

Pocahontas - all my crossables are crossed for you!

Deanna - things are sounding good!!!

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Oy ~ it's going to be a long 2ww - I'm at 5dpo and already having fps :rolleyes: I'm assuming it's way too early to be getting symptoms, but for the first time ever, I was so nauseaous on the train this AM. And I'm praying it's early morning sickness and not that I'm getting sick - West Side Story opens tomorrow night - I don't have time to be sick!!! :D Other than that, just hanging in there...trying to stay :cool:

[ChicagoKate]

I have a question. I see that some of you have both ovusoft and FF charts. Is there a reason for this? Do they give you different info? I only have FF so I know very little about Ovusoft. Just curious! Thanks!

[CTs_Punkin]

Please update my stats

CTs Punkin
Issues: diagnosed with premature ovarian failure 4/06
4/6 Lap - shows open tubes, small bit of endo lasered off
Moving on to IUI in next month or so

[pocahontas]

Pocohontas I've been using the CVS brand with fairly good results, though sometimes it is hard to read and compare those lines. Haven't tried any of the others, so no help there. We're still debating as to whether or not to break down and spend the $$$ on a digital monitor but those things (and the test strips that go with them) are pretty darned expensive!

Still waiting for the *%&)$#* doctor's office to call to see if its okay to call today Day 3 and go in for my bloodwork. I talked to them yesterday and still didn't hear back from them. The message I left this morning said please call me so I can come in to the office today if need be, and not have to go and sit in the ER tonight for the blood draw! Of course, my concentration is shot to hell here at work (and yes AF finally arrived full force ).THANKS BELLEFIOR! I guess I should give Clearblue Easy a try before I totally discount them since there are some on Ebay. I wouldn't even use OPKs except that was part of my RE's orders in order to know when to time my second set of b/w. :rolleyes:

Okay, so I'm giving up since my temp dropped another tenth today and for whatever reason it is CREEPING down slowly. (I'm used to drastic drops and used to it not taking this long either!) I have very little hope that suddenly it will skyrocket after it went from 98.5 on Mon to 98.3 on Tues and 98.2 yesterday with today being 98.1. Still no AF...nothing more than spotting which is unnerving because I have always had a predictable AF (2 heavy days, a day and a half medium and a day of light flow with half day or so of spotting). Nothing like this...EVER (then again I had 5 crazy days of spotting right after I O'ed that I didn't understand either! :confused: I have NEVER had a cycle this insane.) But I am not too optimistic. So I'm going ahead with my HSG and U/S Monday and get the RE's show on the road.

Oh...here ya go Lauren! http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/12430d

[tealynn]

Thanks Polkadot for the "how to link the chart" info. I've been wondering about that too. I'm ready for some serious interpreting, even though I've only have 5 days of temping down.:rolleyes:

Anyhoo, just following along and waiting for the BDing to begin!

I know I need to reread the charting section again of TCOYF but as I near "O"ing I can expect my temps to rise? and a dip if there's implantation? and temps to drop back down if ol' AF is on the way?

BTW, here's my chart link if a moderator could help a girl out!
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/114180

Thanks.

[phillytiger]

tealynn - your temp won't rise until after you've O'd - so the way to know if you're nearing O is your cm getting more fertile. Implantation causes a dip sometimes and sometimes not - what they say is that a dip doesn't necessarily mean implantaion, and no dip doesn't necessarily mean no implantation. And then your temp will drop with AF - for some people it's before AF arrives, for some it's day of, for some it's within a day or so...just depends on your body. You'll get to know what your body does & then it'll be easier to interpret :) Hope that helps!

Ovusoft vs FF - I use both - mostly b/c I really like Ovusoft, but like havign FF as an online backup when I'm on the road or can't get to my computer (Ovusoft is only on one computer, not web based). I'm a very visual person, so am partial to Ovusoft, although I have to admit that in the last 15 months or so, FF has gotten better with its visuals :) But since I've bought Ovusoft, I'll keep going with both for now. And sometimes they do interpret differently...depends on how "clear" things are.

[Bellefior]

Well the doctor's office finally called back and said to go ahead with the bloodwork, so I had the labs drawn today (they actually had my chart confused with someone elses, and kept saying, we don't know why she--meaning the doctor-- wants day 3 bloodwork, so I had to wait for them to get hold of the doctor again to straighten things out). At least this means I don't have to change any of the other appointments, including the HSG scheduled for next week. Keeping my fingers crossed that maybe after next weeks tests, the next doctor's visit will be an OB visit.

[cowgirl]

lattee22, I am so sorry for your loss. Hugs to you.

MrsR, That is funny about DH making you leave the house.

Chris~n~Jen, Sounds like the calendar is working!

gymwidow: Thanks

Bellefior:Glad things are worked out with the Dr. now. Sorry your DH was such a jerk to you. Mine had a day like that this week as well. Men need to think before they talk.

I am begining to wonder if AF really is hear or if I am just spotting. TMI I put a tampon in yesterday and had hardly any thing on it. I am wearing a panty liner today. What is considered spotting?

[Deanna1018]

I got my bloodwork results back and......

I'm Pregnant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We are both so excited. I want to thank each and everyone one of you for all of your support. I will definitely be back here to see how everyone is doing.

Threadmistress, I can be officicially graduated. Tentative due date is December 27th 2006.

Thanks again!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here.

Congratulations Deanna1018! A happy and healthy 9 months to you!

[polkadot]

congrats Deanna

[phillytiger]

Congrats Deanna!!!

[JayJay]

Congrats, Deanna

[Smittenk]

Congratulations Deanna!!!!!! :D Happy and healthy 9 months to you!

[pocahontas]

Threadmistress...would you please move me to "waiting to O".

I had a temp drop of 2 tenths more...so even though this is the weirdest AF yet because it really isn't much more than just spotting and a very light flow (if any at all) I suppose I need to put something in my FF chart so that it can give me a new cycle. Not to mention I have never had a cycle this long since I started charting (32 days when I've always been a 27-28 day girl). At least I am having my CD 3 b/w today...although I don't know if this is really CD 3 or 2 because I can't tell when AF started since it doesn't seem like she EVER really started! :confused: :rolleyes: (at least not the way I am used to!) Alright...off to give blood! Lata.

OH THANKS LAUREN! I see I made it to the "big time". WOOHOO! I'm published! :D

[jessied1025]

Hello Ladies,

Deanna Big Congrats to you!! H & H 9 months to you! Come back and visit us.

pocahontas Sorry to hear about AF. :( Congrats for your chart finally being published!

Threadmisstress: Please move me to "Think I O'd - testing after April 30". Thanks.

3DPO for me is what FF is predicting. My chart is a bit different this cycle, usually I have a very noticable change in temp after I O. However, this cycle my temp didn't go up like it usually does. Today for instance my temp stayed the same, but FF still marked my O date. Plus when I got my positive OPK test it was a bit lighter than usual, I probably should have tested again the next day but I didn't. I also didn't seem to have much CM this cycle as well. I guess only time will tell. At least I think we covered our timing pretty well.

[cowgirl]

Congrats Deanna Happy and Healthy 9 Months

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here

[armadillo]

Congrats, Deanna!!!

[tealynn]

That's awesome Deanna!!! CONGRATULATIONS:p And thanks Phillytiger for the temp 411. I did manage to find about 20 minutes last night to read through charting again in TCOYF. It makes so much more sense to me now after following along in these threads.

[Chris~n~Jen]

Big Congrats, Deanna!

Pocahontas, good luck with today's bloodwork.

[ptcrn]

Congratulations Deanna!!! Happy and healthy 9 months to you!

Still just waiting to O here at CD 14, nothing exciting going on. DH did his SA yesterday, we haven't heard anything from the doctor's office yet. How long do the results usually take to come back?

[JayJay]

Well, I think I O'ed today. I just got home from work and when I wiped, I was spotting, so.....I think I did. That's when I usually spot, when I O anyway. I'm on CD 18, and that's a pretty early O for me. But maybe the lack of stress from not temping coming into play. We can hope.

I'm not so hopeful about our BD'ing time, because the last time we BD'ed was wednesday. We'll see, I guess.

[Jess71903]

ptcrn- they should have the SA results really quick, since they have to do everything within a specific time frame (like hours). I called my Dr.s office the next day and got DH's.

Congrats, Deanna! We are having a rash of BFPs in the SWH thread, let's hope it continues in this thread as well. I am at CD26, 12DPO if I O'd when I usually do. Not testing until I am really late, so I am trying to forget about that test in my cabinet. I am hosting a baby shower tomorrow, too, so I don't want to get disappointed and be in a crappy mood tomorrow if I can help it.

[mrs_pell]

Hi ladies...I'm *so* not very good at keeping up with this thread!! It moves so fast during the day when I'm at work!! :eek:

Anyway, CONGRATS Deanna!!! H&H nine months!! :D

pocahontas ~ So weird about AF, but hopefully your tests will answer some questions for you.

12 dpo for me right now, and I had a couple of big jumps in temp yesterday and today. I was trying so hard to wait to test, but there was that stupid left over test from a few months ago that was screaming to me, so I broke down when I got home from work...BFN. I know it's early, especially since I didn't use FMU, so I'm not too disappointed yet. I've had super tender breasts (but they're usually sore before AF, I just can't remember if they're *this* sore, or if I'm just hoping not), and kinda crampy the last few days (which I'm usually not before AF). These 2 weeks are LOOOOOOOOOONG!! :rolleyes: Hopefully I can hold off for another few days. Last month's LP was 16 days, so if this month's the same, I'm still 4 days till she's actually due.

Oh...btw...has anyone seen the FF "game" page, with the FF version of pacman??? It's freaking HYSTERICAL! It's an egg, getting chased by the AF hags, and you get the sperm to be able to catch the hags. Oh, and instead of fruit, you get a "NO AF" icon! Soooo funny! :D

[ABirney]

Hi ladies! Hope everyone is doing well.
Congrats Deanna!!! Glad to hear it's official!
Sorry to those AF found.
Good luck to those O'ing, hope you catch the eggies!

[Sherb]

well, it's official. I did ovulate on Wednesday. I have longer cycles, 30 days, and a luteal phase of around 12 days. So I will definelty be expecting AF next Sunday. If she doesn't show on Sunday morning... bring on the testing. :D

[mrs_pell]

*sigh* Big temp drop this morning...BLAH.

[Sebski]

Can I butt in for a little refresher course? I charted to conceive #1 but only had to temp for 1 month because we got lucky on that first cycle so my memory isn't all that up to snuff. I started temping again a couple of months ago and was hoping you guys could help answer a couple of questions. When your temps dip, that's 'pre-o' right? And the next rise is post-o? So, you should BD a lot with that dip? Or, is it that you O w/ that temp drop? Can someone refresh my memory on what the temp drop means and when the best time to BD around it it? THANKS!

[fsb2005]

mrs_pell - bummer. :( Although, you do seem to have a long LP, so it's possible it could be late implantation...and as every here says, it's not over 'till AF shows.

Sebski - not everyone gets a pre-O temp dip. It's actually much harder to predict when you are about to O based on your temperatures alone, since you only know for sure that you've O'd after your temps rise, at which point it is usually too late to BD.

The better way to try to predict when you are Oing before you O is to pay attention to your cervical fluid. I think the first page of this thread talks about the basics of charting (and has links). Also, as others will likely recommend, you might want to get a copy of Taking Charge of Your Fertility. It will explain the basics.

Good luck and welcome to the thread!

[polkadot]

well i have to say that I have only been drinking the green tea b/c Brian bought some b/c he drinks it at work...and its yummy. Ihave had just a glass or maybe two each day for the last few days and I can already tell that i have way more CM than i usually do. I hope its still doing its job next week.;)

I have grapefruit juice too...which i dont care for really but i will deal with it for a week or so if i have to. I know that somewhere it said that green tea can block the folic acid in the prenatals but i guess if i only drink it pre O i should be OK...

this thread is getting long...i hope we get some BFP's soon!!

[mrs_pell]

mrs_pell - bummer. :( Although, you do seem to have a long LP, so it's possible it could be late implantation...and as every here says, it's not over 'till AF shows.

It would be *really* late for implantation, right?? And, I know it's not over till it's over, but it's really easy to feel otherwise, ya know?? I keep thinking that maybe the fact that I woke up without covers on at all has something to do with the drop, but I really doubt it would cause a drop of almost a full degree. I guess only time will tell!

[pocahontas]

this thread is getting long...i hope we get some BFP's soon!!
If memory serves...we only need 2 more BFPs for a new thread, right THREADMISTRESS?

[mrs_pell]

Anyone want to look at my chart and tell me what they think is going on?? I had that huge drop yesterday, and then an even bigger jump up this morning! I'm 14 dpo. When I temped this morning, I fell back asleep while the thermometer was reading and woke back up to it already off. I turned it back on and it said it was 98.06 (this was just a few minutes). I re-temped, to make sure that it was correct, and then I got 98.39. Not sure which one to use, but either one is a large jump from yesterday, and is right back up there with my post-O temps.

[ptcrn]

MrsPell, I think its looking good! I would see what your temp does tomorrow and then test again. It may have just been too early to test last time. Good luck!

Thanks for the info, Jess71903. I think I will call the doctor's office tomorrow if I haven't heard anything by afternoon. I don't want to be pushy, but I want to know!

Yesterday was a day of mixed emotions for me. I found out one of my good friends is 12 weeks pregnant and I just felt like I'd been punched in the stomach. It really sucks feeling this way when you want to be happy for someone! And I really am happy for her, its just so hard, especially since she started trying about 6 months after we did. They basically got pregnant on the first or second try. I'm really trying not to be a bitter person- I talked to another friend about it afterwards (we were at a party) and she said that I handled it really well and she couldn't tell I was upset. At least that's a good thing! :)

The great thing about yesterday is that I had my first EWCM ever!!! :D I was so excited to see it! Of course we BD'd and I'm hoping to see a positive OPK today (or at least more EW!). I'm hoping it works!

[JayJay]

Well, I thought that I had gotten a positive OPK the other day, but I'm not so sure now. I took a couple this morning. (I'm a double dipper....:D ) and they both came up with pretty pink lines. I'm thinking that they're only going ot get darker. I guess only time will tell.

[JayJay]

mrs pell, you're chart is looking great! I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you!

[Jess71903]

Pretty sure today is CD1 for me. It's been a rough day. I have cried pretty much all day (even had to get up in the middle of church-there's nothing like everyone seeing you cry then asking if you're ok!) Anyway, it's really light, as newly usual for me. This is just getting so old!

[phillytiger]

Hi ladies! I'm 8dpo and trying to wait patiently :) I had some spotting yesterday, so fingers are crossed that's a good sign. I didn't temp yesterday b/c we didnt' go to sleep until 5am (West Side Story opened Fri night & we threw the opening night party!) This AM my temp was up a little...

I'm going home to my parents for a few days this week, so DH has made me promise not to test until I get back - so I have to wait until Friday!!!

Hang in there Jess - so sorry AF showed!

[mrs_pell]

Jess ~ so sorry about AF showing... :( Hang in there!

ptcrn ~ Hopefully you're right. That dip yesterday is just weird, though! Of course, I went through and looked at *every* chart from those that have "graduated" looking for something like that. :rolleyes:

MrsJackson ~ Hopefully your OPKs were right and that this will be your month! :) And, thanks for looking at my chart and for the crossings! :D

phillytiger ~ Patience is definitely hard to come by during these 2wws, huh? As hard as I try not to think about it, I can't help it!

It's so much easier keeping up with this thread on the weekends!!!

[mrs_pell]

Ooohhh...I spy an MBFP!! :D Congrats to you!!

[fsb2005]

Man, it's hard to spot these MBFPs sometimes, but I spot her too! Congrats!!!

[ABirney]

Hi ladies!
Congrats to the MBFP!
mrspell strange dip but keeping my fingers crossed for you!
jess so sorry the witch showed up.
philly lets hope that's good spotting!!!
ptcrn yay for EWCM!
mrsjackson yay for + OPK!

Nothing new here, plugging along on CD47. 1 1/2 weeks until my Dr appt, I'm getting excited! Hopefully he'll be able to get things rolling right away.

[polkadot]

Congrats!!!! To the MBFP!!! I am so happy for you!! H&H 9 months to you :D

[pocahontas]

WAAAH! I can't find the MBFP! :( I'm just checkin' charts linked on page 1 but you guys must know a secret place to find 'em that I don't know about! :confused: :rolleyes:

[cowgirl]

pocahontas;The MBFP is in the waiting to O section.

Congrats to the MFBP!!!!

[Chris~n~Jen]

Congrats to the MBFP!
Jess71903, sorry about AF.
Good luck in the 2WW phillytiger.


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CD15 for me. My temp went up this morning. I'm thinking I may have O'd yesterday, my normal CD14 O. I'm a little frustrated this cycle though. I've been using OPK since CD10 and they have all been negitive. Yesterday's was as negitive as it gets. Absolutly no second line to speak. Also no luck with CM this cycle. If there is a next cycle, I will definatly be getting some green tea. So even if my temps show an O yesterday, I won't have solid cross hairs because I have no other symptoms of Oing other than my temps. :mad:

[fsb2005]

Chris~n~Jen - if you have no other signs of O, maybe you haven't O'd yet. Your temps don't look like an O to me - 97.5 is right in the middle of your usually pre-O range...at least that's what it looks like to me. Also, it looks like you've gotten positive readings from OPKs in the past - I'd keep testing.

[jessied1025]

Congrats to the MBFP!!

Jess Sorry about AF showing up.

phillytiger Good luck during the 2ww.

Threadmisstress: could you please move me to "Think I O'd, testing after 4/30. Thank you.

[Chris~n~Jen]

Chris~n~Jen - if you have no other signs of O, maybe you haven't O'd yet. Your temps don't look like an O to me - 97.5 is right in the middle of your usually pre-O range...at least that's what it looks like to me. Also, it looks like you've gotten positive readings from OPKs in the past - I'd keep testing.

Thanks! You may be right. You know I just noticed that both of my last two O temps were in the 97.8 range. I hadn't noticed that before. :rolleyes:

I tested with the OPK and got a - yesterday that I just didn't put in the chart yet. I'll test again today. Last cycle I could look at all the OPK's lined up and see the progression of darker lines until I got the +'s. This cycle none were anywhere near a + and yesterday's was completely line-less (well except for the control line).

When is the best time of the day to test? I've been testing right when I get home from work around 5:30 pm. I have heard that FMU is not good for the OPKs.

[tealynn]

Well, I just scanned through all the "Waiting to "O" charts, and as an inexperienced chart reader, I have NO idea who the MBFP is but CONGRATS anyway and I'm sure I'll find out soon enough!:rolleyes:

Nothing exciting to report here. Just gearing up for the first signs of EWCM so I can start obsessing!

[jjsanner]

Hi guys.

I think I am your mystery BFP. Unfortunately, I was a little premature to post that "+" in my chart. I started spotting late yesterday afternoon :confused: . I am thinking that the + was from leftover HCG from my trigger shot. I am so sad.:(

[ChicagoKate]

Hi guys.

I think I am your mystery BFP. Unfortunately, I was a little premature to post that "+" in my chart. I started spotting late yesterday afternoon :confused: . I am thinking that the + was from leftover HCG from my trigger shot. I am so sad.:(

Sometimes women spot in very early pregnancy. Can you get a blood test to find out what's going on? Good luck to you!!!!

[phillytiger]

Hi all! I'm sitting in the Philly airport - waiting for a delayed flight...thank goodness for wireless internet :)

Still going a little crazy - 9dpo and counting. I swear I'm nauseous, but can't decide whether it's nerves over going to see my mom (she's still sick) or a good sign :D So I'm nibbling on pretzels here in the airport and laughing at myself and my FPS! It's going to be a long 4 days, but I'm trying to stay :cool:

jjsanner - hope it's just some spotting!!!

Chris~n~Jen - i agree, I think you may still be waiting to O...

[gymwidow]

jjsanner, crossing my fingers for you. Can you call your doc for a blood test? Mine would let me have one at 12 days post-trigger. The HCG can stay in your system for up to 14 days, though.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here.

[jjsanner]

Thanks everyone. Just back from the lab. They are hoping to have the blood results today, but more likely tomorrow. I am not feeling optimistic, though.

This whole journey has been such a roller coaster. I was bawling my eyes out Sat. night because I was feeling very crampy, like AF was just around the corner. Then I awoke Sun. morning and still no spotting (which, BTW, would be my longest LP to date not counting my miscarriage two months ago), so I tested. Imagine my surprise when I saw that very faint +. So then I was feeling good all day yesterday until I went to the restroom and saw the spotting. My poor DH thinks I am a crazy lady with my up and down emotions over the past couple of days. He's being very supportive, but it's hard for him because he doesn't know what to say.

I really hope it is the leftover HCG and not another miscarriage. I don't think I can handle that again. I am not strong enough.:(

[ptcrn]

**HUGS** to you, jjsanner. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you get a good report from the lab today. And your temp is still up, that is a good sign. Good luck!

[phillytiger]

hang in there jjsanner!!!!

[jessied1025]

My fingers & toes are crossed for you jjsanner!!!

[mrs_pell]

jjsanner ~ I feel so bad that I started all the MBFP spying. Keeping my fingers crossed for you. Your temps definitely still look good. Have you tested at all since the BFP?

I'm still trying to figure out WTH is going on with my temps. I had that big drop the other day, then a huge jump yesterday, than just as big of a drop this morning. When I saw the temp this morning, I just threw the thermometer on the floor! :o Still no AF, but my LP was 16 days last month, and I'm on dpo 15 today. Since I don't have any more tests under the counter, I'm waiting, and if AF doesn't show by Wednesday, which would be dpo 17, I'll go buy some more. I just really, really don't want to see another BFN, which (along with the drop in temp) is why I'm not going to test again till then. This whole TTC thing just sucks. Why does it seem like highschool girls get pregnant all the time, and those that want to get pregnant actually have to *work* at it? Hmph.

If this isn't the month, AF had *better* wait till tomorrow to show up. We had to put our dog to sleep today, and I really, really don't think I could handle AF showing her ugly head today.

[pocahontas]

Why does it seem like highschool girls get pregnant all the time, and those that want to get pregnant actually have to *work* at it? Hmph.I'm with you MRSPELL! I ask that questions ALL the time, but you're not supposed to be frustrated, right? *insert eye roll*

Okay, question for all of you experts...has anyone every heard the term "interruption of pregnancy"? Has anyone's doctor ever used this terminology? Is this a fancy and nice way of saying "miscarriage?" Just wondering...

[mrs_pell]

Okay, question for all of you experts...has anyone every heard the term "interruption of pregnancy"? Has anyone's doctor ever used this terminology? Is this a fancy and nice way of saying "miscarriage?" Just wondering...

Yes...I'm pretty sure it's a term used for the "ending" of a pregnancy, whether by miscarriage or abortion. At least that's what I gathered from googling it. ;)

[Chris~n~Jen]

Pocahontas or anyone else that knows, I remember a while back you were asking about the baby asprin delaying O. What did you ever figure out about that? This is my first full cycle of taking baby asprin every day and it seems that I still haven't O'd when normally I have by now. So just wondering about it.
I started to go back and find the post but this thread moves so fast and I don't have time right now (at work) to look through several pages.

Thanks! :D

[tealynn]

jjsanner, so sorry for the premature BFP, I'm definitely rooting for you!

Mrs. Pell, sorry about losing your pet, that's so tough combined with the TTCing. I really hope this is your month.

I'm definitely struggling with the fairness of the whole TTC thing as well. Seems like, when you're finally ready, emotionally and financially, the odds just aren't in your favor.

It will just make us appreciate it more when it finally happens!

[jessied1025]

Mrs. Pell Sorry about losing your pet, hang in there.

I agree with everyone so far on the fairness of TTC, it just sucks sometimes and there is no other way to put it.

Copied from my LJ:
I am just bitter and grumpy today, I just want to be pregnant so bad and once again I don't think this is our month. My temps never really have gotten high this month, they have stayed pretty consistant. Today I was so hoping for an increase in temp, but instead my temp dropped. So now am I just waiting for the spotting to begin and for AF to show later on this week and/or weekend. With my LP being short the last couple of months, I should start spotting late tomorrow or Thursday. Yesterday I started taking a B-6 vitiam along with my prenatal hoping that will lengthen my LP, I guess we will see if it works. We also found out on Sunday that some good friends of ours are expecting again and due in Novemeber (kind of an unexpected pregnancy) and then this morning I received an email from my uncle that my cousin's wife had a baby girl this morning. Now don't get me wrong I am very happy for both couples, but I wish it would be me. Sunday during softball practice another married couple that we are friends with annouced that they are TTC. They talked about it like it was something that happens automatically and easily. Now I know it does for some people, but it is just hard hearing people talk about it knowing that it hasn't been easy for us. I have to keep reminding myself that even though we have been trying since last October, are timing hasn't been very good before BIL passed away, so only the last 3 cycles have been good. Sorry for the venting, I am just throwing myself a pitty party this morning.

[Bellefior]

This whole TTC thing just sucks. Why does it seem like highschool girls get pregnant all the time, and those that want to get pregnant actually have to *work* at it? Hmph.



As I told my husband, if I knew it was this hard to get pregnant, then I definitely would have fooled around more in HS and college. Then again, if I had done something in HS or college, with my look I probably would have been caught. I was a "good girl" who never did anything for fear of being caught.

The only update here is that I had my CD3 Bloodwork last week and Ultrasound today. HSG is scheduled for tommorrow and the SA for Thurs. I did tell the ultrasound tech I knew she couldn't tell me anything, that I had to wait to speak to my doctor, and she told me that the radiologist would read it and send a report to my doctor, but she also suggested that I didn't lose any sleep over it in the meantime, which I am taking to be a good sign.

[polkadot]

jessied1025~Sorry things are rough right now...i hope they get better soon....i know we have all felt the same things you are feeling...(((hugs))

Chris~n~Jen~I do kinda believe that the baby aspirin had something to do with me Oing later than usual...but at least I O'ed..I am still taking it this cycle too...i am using a monitor this month...i'll let you know if i see a change...

pocahontas~ I have never heard that term used..its sounds like the description of a Chemical pregnancy like i had in Jan. Hope that helps...

ME~ Still waiting for my monitor to give me a high reading ...i knew it would take a while since it makes you POAS from day 6 and I know i dont O till anywhere between 17-21 so I have a week to go. I have tried Green tea this cycle which i really think will make a difference...i drank it for only 4 days right after AF left and I had lots of CM it was creamy but there was still a lot of it. So lets hope it works...

Good luck to everyone..:D

[pocahontas]

Pocahontas or anyone else that knows, I remember a while back you were asking about the baby asprin delaying O. What did you ever figure out about that? This is my first full cycle of taking baby asprin every day and it seems that I still haven't O'd when normally I have by now. So just wondering about it.
I started to go back and find the post but this thread moves so fast and I don't have time right now (at work) to look through several pages.

Thanks! :D
Hey JEN...Polkadot might have already answered (haven't caught up yet) but she and I both took b/a right around the same time and both ended up with a much later O date than normal. I didn't O until CD20 (and since I have been charting I have always been a CD 15 or 16 girl with the latest EVER being CD 17). Can't necessarily say with certainty it was the b/a. I just know after last cycle I am DONE with it. Not taking it anymore because frankly, I don't know that I ever needed it. I suppose I shouldn't have been following the crowd anyway. lol :rolleyes: But when I saw the benefits that were posted about taking it, I thought...what can it hurt? So we'll see if my O date goes back to normal this cycle not taking any.

[pocahontas]

pocahontas~ I have never heard that term used..its sounds like the description of a Chemical pregnancy like i had in Jan. Hope that helps...

That's what DH and I talked about because that was the first thing I thought of when I heard the term. Apparently, this is what my RE thinks may have happened to me last cycle (that crazy cycle with all that spotting...literally 9 days out of my 13 day LP was spotting and the cycle lasted 33 days! I have never been more than a 27-28 day girl since I started charting.) But I don't know how we'd be able to tell whether or not it was a CP. However, this is what she suggested yesterday. *sigh* :( I am not sure what to think about that. I am not going to think about it though because my HSG and u/s are Friday and DH is doing his SA today.

[cowgirl]

Originally Posted by mrs_pell
This whole TTC thing just sucks. Why does it seem like highschool girls get pregnant all the time, and those that want to get pregnant actually have to *work* at it? Hmph.

I think that all the time. I also just found out a friend is PG due in August. I was so sad after hearing that since they really did not plain on kids her BC pill failed.

jjsaner:Fingers crossed for you!!

Not much new here... I told DH to be ready for some major BDing at the end of the week. Since I told him last week we needed to bd more.

[Chris~n~Jen]

Chris~n~Jen~I do kinda believe that the baby aspirin had something to do with me Oing later than usual...but at least I O'ed..I am still taking it this cycle too...i am using a monitor this month...i'll let you know if i see a change...


Well I'm glad to know you did finally O. I will be interested to know if you O late again this cycle.


Hey JEN...Polkadot might have already answered (haven't caught up yet) but she and I both took b/a right around the same time and both ended up with a much later O date than normal. I didn't O until CD20 (and since I have been charting I have always been a CD 15 or 16 girl with the latest EVER being CD 17). Can't necessarily say with certainty it was the b/a. I just know after last cycle I am DONE with it. Not taking it anymore because frankly, I don't know that I ever needed it. I suppose I shouldn't have been following the crowd anyway. lol But when I saw the benefits that were posted about taking it, I thought...what can it hurt? So we'll see if my O date goes back to normal this cycle not taking any.

We are all really just sheep following the leader, aren't we? :p Just like I am interested to know if polkadot O's late, I'm interested to see if you O back to normal. If it does look like the b/a is causing me to O late, I may have to give it up as well. This stinks! :mad:



I just had a thought about my chart. Starting last Monday DH started new hours at work and I started getting up almost 1 hour earlier. I totally forgot to change the default time on FF so I did just do that. But isn't there some calculation to use if you take your temps at different times. I know in the past my O day temps were in the 97.8 range. How much can I expect that to change with me temping 1 hour earlier?

***I know, I know, pulling at straws.....*** :o

[Bellefior]

Chris~n~Jen Don't quote me on this, but I believe its add .1 degree for every half hour earlier, subtract for every half hour later.

Warning Mini Vent Ahead

Dear Co-worker,

I realize you are the timekeeper and know that I took sick time yesterday and today, and will be doing so tommorrow and Thursday. However, asking me point blank "so, do we have a bun in the oven" was rude and intrusive. It is none of your business but thanks for making me feel like $hit, since I am undergoing testing to see why I have not gotten pregnant yet. If I did indeed have a "bun in the oven" then I suspect I would have far less doctor's visits than I do now.

(I'm actually surprised he doesn't know or suspect the real reason for the doctor's appointments---since a few people in the office do know why and are sensitive/sympathetic to that fact.)

[stevesbabygirl]

Bellefior, I think it's actually the other way around. The later you get up, the higher your temp will be.

[Bellefior]

I guess I didn't explain myself very well. If you get up earlier, to adjust your temperature, add .1 degree for every 1/2 hour earlier, subtract .1 degree for every half hour later.

[jjsanner]

Cross-posted from SAI:

Just spoke with the RE. Blood test was negative (<1 HCG). :(

I have absolutely no idea what is going on. The test I took Sunday morning was definately positive. I took another this morning and got the faintest of lines. The doc didn't think it would be leftover HCG, although I guess that is still a possibility. Today is 16 days post trigger. I am still just lightly spotting, which makes this my longest LP ever.

I have a follow-up appointment scheduled for Thursday morning. DH is going with me. Hopefully she will be able to shed some light on the situation.

I am sad, but at least it wasn't another miscarriage.

[mrs_pell]

As I told my husband, if I knew it was this hard to get pregnant, then I definitely would have fooled around more in HS and college.

Too funny! :D Hope you get some answers with your bloodwork!

tealynn & jessied1025, thanks for the condolences. She was an old pup, and it was her time, but still SOOOO sad. :( At least AF didn't show up yesterday!

Bellefior ~ Sorry about your co-worker! I hate it when people say things like that. Just the other day, a girl at work called me over and asked me if I was pregnant. WTH? No...but thanks for reminding me that I'm not and for basically telling me that I'm getting fat! :rolleyes:

jjsanner ~ I'm so sorry. :( I hope you get some answers from your RE.

As for me, still no AF, but a dooming-looking chart. Haven't taken another test because of the temps, and I'm sure she'll be here tomorrow or soon thereafter. Just hurry up so we can get on with it again.

[Bellefior]

jjsanner just wanted to let you know that I am sending hugs your way.

[cowgirl]

Chris~n~Jen: From what I have read on http://www.webwomb.com/basal_body_temp.htm Bellefoir If you get up earlier, to adjust your temperature, add .1 degree for every 1/2 hour earlier, subtract .1 degree for every half hour later.
jjsanner:Sorry hopefully you will get some answers from your RE soon.
mrs_pell: Hope AF stays away.

Nothing to report here. Can someone tell me How you changed the color on your chart link? TIA

[gymwidow]

Mrs Pell, I'm so sorry about your puppydog. Hugs...

jjsanner, how frustrating. Maybe the first + was leftover HCG and by the time you had the blood test it had finally left your system? But that wouldn't make sense out of the most recent +. I hope you get a final answer soon.

cowgirl, I think you can change the color of your links in your profile? I could totally be making that up, though - I don't know very much about that kind of stuff!

[cowgirl]

gymwidow: Got it figured out thanks.

[Chris~n~Jen]

Thanks bellefior, stevesbabygirl, & cowgirl for the info on the temp/time changes.

So sorry for you jjsanner. I hope you get answers from your RE soon.

cowgirl ~ To change your link color, I think you go to edit your siggy. Then where you have your link posted just highlight it and the select the color you want. You may have to do the thing. I can't remember. But that were you pick the color and also also size, font, centered. I don't know that this is 100% accurate since it has been a while since I've changed anything in my siggy. But I hope it helps.

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CD17 for me. I had a huge spike in temps this morning. Hopefully the temps will stay up and FF will give me an O date of CD14, 15, or 16. I don't really care as long as it shows I O'd sometime. :rolleyes:

[Chris~n~Jen]

Forgot to mention: I am still getting - OPK's. Although I didn't test yesterday because we were out late (due to DH's B-day) and I didn't get home until almost 9pm and then forgot about it. I am wondering though. This cycle I am using some internet cheapies that were sent to me by a graduate how had no more use for them. I didnt get the directions and am just using them the same as I did the Answer brand ones that I've used in the past cycles. So maybe I'm doing something wrong.

Can someone give me quick directions for thier use? They are the sticks that I have to hold in the cup of pee. Should the surface of the urine be below the black line that's labeled "Mark"? I have been making sure that the surface is within the black part but maybe it should be below. Also how long are you supposed to hold the stick in the urine? I am holding for 10 seconds currently. What are the best time of the day to use them? Should I be testing more than once a day? Is it possible to get a negitive on one stick but a positive on another the same day just different times?

Sorry about all the questions just frustrated that I haven't yet gotten a + OPK this cycle. The last three I've taken barely had a second line at all. Where as the ones before it were getting slightly darker each day, then bam NOTHING.

[JayJay]

I was holding my Internet OPK's in for about 7-8 seconds. That seems to do the job. ;)

[cowgirl]

Chris-n-Jen:Thank I was puting the color in the wrong spot. As for the OPK's I hold them to the mark for about 7 seconds. I have tested afternoon & evening.

[MrsR]

hey girls, sorry no time for SOs (work is INSANE right now).

Well, we finally got DH's SA results today. The Dr. is faxing me over the full results but, his concentration was 146 million/ml (she said normal was anything above 20 million/ml), his total was 481.8 (ml?) (normal was anything above 40) and his motility was 89% (normal is anything above 50%). So, I guess DH was right after all, he does have super sperm :rolleyes:

Anyway, the Dr. is phoning me in a prescription for Clomid to start next cycle if we are not successful this one . . . glad to finally have a plan :p.


Oh, and since my monitor went to high today, the BDing will begin tonight :p :p.

[Smittenk]

Good Luck tonight MrsR ;) !

Threadmistress...can you please change me to Think I O'd

DH and I BD'd last night since my ovulation test was positive. It should be about the right time in terms of my normal cycle but I didn't notice any EW CF so who knows...I highly doubt that we were successful last night but we'll wait and see if AF comes or not.

[phillytiger]

MrsR - great news on the SA - good luck ;)

SmittenK - hope you caught the eggie!

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I'm officially going crazy!!! :) I'm waiting to test until Friday, b/c I promised DH, but it's SO hard! And I'm torn, I know I need to not get my hopes up, but I want this to be it SO badly. :o I'm holding my breath everytime I go to the bathroom, praying that I wont' have started spotting. And I'm getting very nervous b/c my temp has gone down the last 2 days :(

[fsb2005]

MrsR - definitely great news on the SA! My DH also claims to have super sperm. He likes to make references to war and beat his chest when we talk about it. :rolleyes:

Chris~n~Jen - too bad you didn't try an OPK on the day of O, just to see if you would get a positive reading then. Oh well, at least it looks like you O'd, assuming more high temps.

phillytiger - keeping everything crossed for you! Probably a good idea not to test though, if you can hold out. You're still pretty early...how long was your longest LP?

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Well, we finally did our first BD two nights ago (not that I need to clarify in here, but our first attempt to have a baby, not first time having sex :D). I know it was way early on CD 11 - of my four cycles off BCP, my earliest O has been CD 17 - but still somewhat exciting.

I'm actually not as excited as I thought I'd be about finally actually TTC. I think it's because we're doing Shettles this first month, and I just feel like it's so unlikely that I'll get pregnant this way. We're doing a pretty conservative version, where our last BD will be CD 14, which is three days before my earliest O (CD 17). But, since I've O'd twice at CD 21, and I just have a feeling that is more of a normal O date for me, I'm really skeptical that a BD on CD 14 is going to get me pregnant.

So, anyway, I am not that excited about this cycle...

[teacher_jessica]

My DH also claims to have super sperm. He likes to make references to war and beat his chest when we talk about it. :rolleyes:

fsb2005 OK, I think I've finally recovered from laughing. My husband is just like that. :D

[phillytiger]

My longest LP has been 14 days, with almost all of them being 12-14. So I'm taking the average and holding out until 13dpo :D

[tealynn]

Think "positive" thoughts Mrs R for tonight!

Fingers crossed for you SmittenK on catching the much too ellusive eggie and to Philly Tiger that your temps go back up and not down!

I was pretty sure that there were some signs of EWCM yesterday so hubby and I BDed last night but there was some performance anxiety so, let's just say, we did not close the deal. I was SO not happy with him but what're gonna do?

Today though, no signs of EWCM, what's up with that? I usually have several days in a row. Do you think DTD last night might be the reason, it definitely lasted longer than usual? I've never really noticed it before though. As far as I can tell, I still haven't O'ed though so there's still hope for this month.

BTW, I found a new green tea yesterday. It's made by Snapple and it's infused with real Mango juice. Can't wait to have some tonight!

[Bellefior]

Just wanted to update all you ladies and let you know that all my testing is completed. I had the HSG today, and DH goes for his SA tommorrow.

While I haven't called for any results yet because I am waiting until DH gets his SA so I can just make one call instead of chasing the doctor repeatedly, the radiologist who did the HSG unbeknownst to me was the same one who read the ultrasound yesterday and wrote the report. He told me he recognized the name and didn't know if I had my ultrasound results yet (told him I had not called my doctor yet) but he that he was the one who read them yesterday and that everything looked OK in the ultrasound.

Possible TMI Alert

As far as the HSG went, I know I have heard all sorts of things from people who have had it done ranging from it was no big deal/not painful to the other end of the spectrum where people describe it as being extremely painful. Not to scare anyone off who may be having one done, but I fell somewhere on painful end and all I can say it was the most excruciating pain I have ever felt in my life (and that includes my bout with ovarian cysts when I lived on pain killers for a week).

I was fine with everything in the beginning, and only felt slight cramping (like period cramps) when the cathether was inserted but when they started injecting the die, I literally started crying out from the pain, and it repeated itself everytime they had to inject more dye--I couldn't have stopped myself even if I wanted to, it just came out involuntarily every time he had to inject that dye . The pain was so bad, that I had tears in my eyes, felt sick to my stomach, began shaking on the table, and felt very very cold. I asked if that was normal--which I was told it was when someone has an extreme reaction to pain. The tech came over to hold my hand and I was squeezing her hand so hard that I'm convinced she is going to have some black and blues (she asked me to rate the pain 1-10 and I told her it was a 10+). Once they stopped injecting the dye it wasn't as painful, but I hope to God I never ever have to have that done again. Why they don't give women who are having this procedure done something to cut the pain I will never know. The 4 Advil that I took ahead of time on the advice of my doctor??? Didn't make any difference for me.

They did give me extra recovery time, brought me some warm blankets and soda, and brought my DH in from the waiting area to stay with me. Being the open mouth insert foot kind of guy he is, he said to me "gee you just can't handle pain can you?" If I had been able to get up I would have slapped him because he had absolutely no f-ing clue how painful it was. He's b-tching about going in for his SA, and I had told the tech who prepped me that I really wish my husband could be in the room for the HSG so he could see how easy he really had it.

All that being said, I was convinced because of the extreme pain, they were going to tell me my tubes were blocked or there was some other problem, because that was the only thing I could think of that would make an HSG that painful. The doctor did tell me however, that my tubes were open and clear, and the dye immediately spilled out of the tubes, so if there is one silver lining in this whole experience, that's it. I haven't called yet for my CD 3 bloodwork results, but I just have a gut feeling that they are going to tell me that those turned out normal as well.

I did decide however after this experience, that should the day ever come when I am giving birth (God willing), there is no chance in hell that I am doing natural childbirth and will be availing myself of whatever painkillers they offer.

[ABirney]

Hi ladies, hope everyone is doing well.
bellefior I'm sorry your HSG was so painful.
MrsR glad your DH SA was good.
jjsanner that sucks about the false BFP.
Sorry to those AF found and good luck to those O"ing or testing soon.
Sorry I'm behind on s/o's... so sorry to everyone I missed.

threadmistress... please update my age to 31.. had a b-day yesterday. Thanks! :D

[polkadot]

bellefior~ Sorry your HSG sucked...but at least your tubes are clear...
MrsR~ Yay for strong swimmers...now about that egg...you'll catch it....i feel it ;)
jjsanner ~ Sorry sorry about the false BFP...i know it is heartbreaking..((hugs)) i hope you feel better soon...

Me~ sitting here siping some green tea...waiting to O is taking forever...i feel like the next week is gonna drag on...:rolleyes:

[mrs_pell]

Threadmistress ~ Can you please move me to "Waiting to O?"

Not such a great day today, starting with another drop in temp, followed by AF. I'm sure that contributed to my email to DH today asking him if I could punch my patient's husband, if he thought I would get fired, and if he would still love me anyway. ;) So...Chinese and a big ass beer for dinner, followed by a chocolate icecream cone.

bellefior ~ I'm so sorry your HSG was so painful!! And, sorry DH wasn't so nice about it. Men just do NOT get it sometimes!

[Janey]

This is my 1,000th post and I thought I should do something profound with it. So, I would like to join you ladies. :) B and I will be TTC at the end of May, but I would like to follow along and get to know you all if that's OK.

As for me, I was diagnosed with PCOS in 2003, and it was the spark I needed to go ahead and lose the weight that had been slowly piling on since high school. When I hit 170 lbs, I started ovulating again (I think; I wasn't charting, but I got a + OPK (I was just curious) and had severe O-pains that month). I have gained a bit of my weight back now -- some of which I needed to gain back and some of which I did not! -- So now I am closing in on 170 lbs again going the other way on the scale, and am scared I'm going to stop ovulating again. We shall see as time goes on.

At my annual, I asked my NP about non-hormonal forms of BC because I was sick & tired of the Nuvaring killing my sex drive and making me dry. She suggested that I buy TCOYF and start Charting! I bought the book the next day and read the whole thing while waiting for the plumbers to install the hot water heater. I explained to B what it was all about, and he was all for anything that was organic & natural (not to mention the bonus of having his wife get her sex drive back). I started charting in November of 2005 and have never looked back! Charting has been really great for me, and so far has only proven that I have a fairly normal cycle, which is very promising.

I am looking forward to getting to know you and share this journey with you! :)


CC Name: MrsHill
Me: MrsHill/33
DH: B/41
Married since: September 24, 2005
Off BCP since: October 2005
TTC since: May 2006
Charting since: November 2005
Known issues/test results: Diagnosed with PCOS 2003
Chart: http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrshill
Current status: Temporarily TTA (until the end-of-may o-date)


P.S. Bellefior, what a harrowing and humbling experience. I hope these tests give you the answers that you are looking for.

[Chris~n~Jen]

Fingers crossed for you, phillytiger.
tealynn, thanks for the snapple green tea tip. I've been looking for something like that.
So sorry that your HSG was so painfull for you Bellefior. :(
Happy Birthday ABirney! My DH's B-day was also the 25th. It's a great day. :p
So sorry AF found you mrs_pell! {{{HUGS}}}
Welcome MrsHill, hope your stay is short and sweet!

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Temp dropped this morning. :mad: I guess the two drinks I had with dinner for Chris's birthday was the cause of the huge temp spike. I know alcohol can do that but honestly I didn't even have a little bit of a buzz and it was so early in the evening that I really didn't think it would affect my temp that much. I'm just so frustrated this cycle. It seems like every cycle I have something else going on that frustrates me to no end. I really just want to know that I O'd already. :(

[tealynn]

Welcome MrsHill, the end of May is right around the corner, hope your stay is short and sweet!

Bellefior I'm so sorry you had such a painful HSG experience. It's good to hear about though. I certainly appreciate all the info.

Happy belated Birthday ABirney

Polkadot, you should try the Mango Green Tea bags, very yummy!

MrsPell Sorry about AF but the beer and chinese food sounds really good.

Chris~n~Jen, sorry things are so confusing this cycle, I know how frustrating that can be. I would say, based on your chart, that you haven't O'ed yet and it was the alcohol that caused the spike. I definitely had a really high temp on Monday from having a few glasses of wine on Sunday. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you!

Still waiting to O . . .

[ChicagoKate]

Good luck phillytiger! We're rooting for you!

FF gave me the crosshairs today! Although, I'm thinking that I may have O'd 4 days before the O date FF gave me. Any thoughts?? Either way our timing was good so fingers crossed for this month! I am now waiting to O, testing week of 5/8.

[jessied1025]

mrs pell Sorry to hear that AF show up. (((HUGS)))

jjsanner Sorry about the negative bloodwork. Hang in there...(((HUGS)))

mrs R Glad to hear DH SA was positive. Hurray for having a plan.

SmittenK & ChicagoKate Hope you caught the eggie.

phillytiger I have my fingers crossed for you that this is your month.

fsb2005 Good luck catching the eggie.

tealynn, chris n jenn & polkadot Hoping you O soon.

bellefior Sorry to hear the HSG was so painful. Hopefully the test results come back positive.

mrs hill welcome. Hope you stay is short & sweet.

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Thank you ladies for all your support a couple of days ago, when I was feeling down on myself. TTC can certainly be a rollercoaster!!!

9 DPO here and just waiting. The spotting has started yet, thank goodness and hopefully it stays far away. I have felt a bit crampy the last couple of days and had a short pain in my stomach area last night. Also, my temp went up a bit this morning as well, so hopefully that is a good sign.

[phillytiger]

MrsHill - welcome!

Mrs Pell - so sorry :mad:

jessied - glad you're feeling better again - this process is SUCH a roller coaster! :eek:

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Trying not to get my hopes up...but spotting still hasnt' started & my temp jumped back up again today :) We'll be testing tomorrow and until then, trying to stay :cool:

[ptcrn]

phillytiger- chart is looking good! Good luck testing tomorrow!

ChicagoKate, either date is possible, but its hard to tell based on your CM. I guess I would just wait and see how your temps are in the next few days. Hope you caught the egg!

Welcome MrsHill! Hope your stay is short and sweet! :)

ChrisnJen, it still looks like you may have O'd. Hang in there!

Sorry about AF, MrsPell. :(

Bellefior, I'm sorry that your HSG was so painful. Yay for clear tubes, though! Hope all of the rest of your testing turns out okay too.

I will have to try that new green tea, Tealynn! Thanks for the tip!

Good luck to everyone O'ing and testing!

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We got DH's SA results back on Tuesday and they weren't so great. Apparently he had a lot of clumping, which the doc thinks affected the count. His total count was 23 million, which is not good. But, hopefully it is just because of the clumping, which is the other bad thing. I guess that can be a result of an infection or testicular injury 2-3 months prior (since that's how long it takes to produce sperm.) And we can't think of any injuries or infection he has had. So they want to repeat the SA, and hopefully it is better this time. :( We will do that if I am not pg this month.

Threadmistress, can you move me to Think I O'd, testing week of 5/8? Also can you update DH's age to 30? Thank you!

[teacher_jessica]

Question ladies:
How do I link my chart in my signature? Mine gets uploaded to ovusoft if that makes a difference. ;)

[phillytiger]

How do I link my chart in my signature? Mine gets uploaded to ovusoft if that makes a difference.

Jessica - When you go through the upload process in Ovusoft, on the final screen (after it's uploaded) it will give you the link to your chart. Go into your signature, click the icon for "Insert Link", paste the link into the box, and hit OK. When it shows up in your signature, a part of it will be highlighted - this is the Label - you can change it to whatever you want it to read. Hope this helps - I feel like I did a really bad job of explaining it :)

[teacher_jessica]

OK ladies... I think I've got my signature figured out. Let me know if it's working! :D Thanks so much phillytiger!!!

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Welcome MrsHIll

[pride&prejudice]

CC Name:pride&prejudice
Me: Rosie/26
DH: Gary/27
Married since: 5.28.05
Off BCP since: 4.23.06
TTC since: hopefully July!
Charting since: starting next cycle
Known issues/test results: none
Current status: waiting for DH to be off methotrexate for 3 months

Hi. I just got off of BC this Sunday, and I think I'll probably have to sit this cycle out, but it will give me time to figure out what I'm doing. DH and I will be actually start TTC in July/August, when he's been off of his meds for a complete 3 months. So I think this month I'll just be learning! :)

[Sherb]

8 DPO and still waiting for me... I've had some very interesting pains this month and lots of creamy CM the last couple of days. AND...
If I'm not experiencing some major horomone surges right now, I should just be committed. One moment I'm fine. Next, I want to cry. For no reason. OR I'm insanely psycho angry. For very little reason. My pets got into a scuffle at lunch and I immediately used that screaming voice my Mom used when I had pushed every button. And the next second I'm fine. Someone stop the emotional rollcoaster puuuuullleeeeaassssee.

[Charting is Knowledge]

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Welcome pride&prejudice!!

[cowgirl]

bellefior:Sorry the HSG was so awful. Hopefully it will give you some answers and be worth the pain.

MrsHill & pride&prejudice:Welcome.

Sherb;Hope the are FPS for you.

Well I think I may have O'd already but we didn't BD until yesterday so I am out. Didn't think I would O until around cd 14 at the earliest. But at least I O'd this time. ;)

[Chris~n~Jen]

Welcome pride&prejudice! Hope your stay is short and sweet.

Fingers still crossed for you phillytiger.

Sherb, sounds promising. Fingers crossed for you too.

cowgirl, I'm just curious as to why you think you already O'd. I'm still learning the signs but by looking at your chart, I wouldn't think you have O'd yet. Maybe I'm missing something.


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CD19 and my temp went up a little bit again today. I discarded my CD17 temp since it seems that the 2 itty bitty drinks I had with dinner affected my temp way to much. One thing is for sure, I am going to load up on green tea next time I go to the grocery store. Before TTC it seemed like I always had CM, not I can barely find any at all. The days I notice any I mark in my chart and there are only 3 out of 19 days. That's insane!

[polkadot]

I finally got a hight reading on my fertility monitor!!!!

Let the bding begin!!! :D ;) ;)

[cowgirl]

chris n jen: Since my temp has gone up the last 2 days and todays was in my normal post -O temps. But you could be right.

[Chris~n~Jen]

chris n jen: Since my temp has gone up the last 2 days and todays was in my normal post -O temps. But you could be right.

Ohh, got it!

polkadot, Have fun! ;)

[phillytiger]

BFN this morning :(

Still no spotting...but temp came down. Not looking good...

[MrsR]

polkadot -- hope you catch that eggie!!!

cowgirl -- I agree with Chris~n~Jen, I don't think you have O'd yet, but I could be wrong:rolleyes:

sherb -- all my crossables are crossed.

MrsHill and pride&prejudice -- welcome!!!

Bellefior -- I am sorry your HSG was so painful, mine was too -- fingers crossed this cleared out all the cobwebs for you (and me too;))

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Okay, Bding actually did not take place on Wednesday as I fell asleep at 8. DH and I did "move furniture" last night and will do it again tonight in NYC (just because I we are staying in a really nice hotel, so I figure the change of scenery might do us some good;)). What really cracked me up was that on Thursday morning when I woke up and was so upset that I had fallen asleep before we could BD, my DH told me not to worry b/c having sex with him was like having it with 7 guys :p. Guess the SA results really did go to his head;).

See you on Monday ladies. Good luck to all of you trying to catch the egg!!!

[teacher_jessica]

Can someone please look at my chart and see if they can explain to me what sets the coverline (if that's what it is actually called... I'm talking about the horizontal line that is at 98.5 degrees on my chart I believe). I only started charting this month so I'm trying to wrap my brain around all these new concepts and I know many of you are experts! :) I know the fact that I didn't start charting until part of the way through my cycle probably has made my chart a little off but I just am not sure. TIA!!!

[Janey]

Thank you all so much for the welcomes! And welcome to pride & prejudice! Yay - I'm not 'the new girl' any more!

Sherb your nuttiness sounds very promising. :p

Chris-n-Jen, another thing that helps CM is grapefruit. The red ones are not nearly as sour as the yellow/pink ones, give the same CM benefit and also are really good for you in other ways (http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=25). They always say "The redder the better" for health benefits. If you're not totally adverse, try one!

teacher_Jessica - your last 6 temps before Ovulation set your coverline. From the CM dry-up, and your temps having an obvious shift, I would say that Ovusoft is recording your coverline correctly. In a few months of charting (if you need them! ;)), you will begin to see a pattern in your temperatures and know what are normal pre-o and post-o temps for you.

[phillytiger]

teacher_Jessica - since you didn't have 6 temps earlier, your coverline looks right. But had you started temping a little earlier, your CL would probably have been at 97.7 or 97.9 - which would make a little more sense as far as your O timing goes...either way, it's considering those temps to be part of your O count, so looks like a good O to me :)

[teacher_jessica]

PhillyTiger and MrsHill that makes a lot of sense to me! Thanks so much. I'm thinking that after a while longer of charting I'll be able to understand this so much better (plus, this thread helps a lot too)!

[Chris~n~Jen]

Chris-n-Jen, another thing that helps CM is grapefruit. The red ones are not nearly as sour as the yellow/pink ones, give the same CM benefit and also are really good for you in other ways (http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=25). They always say "The redder the better" for health benefits. If you're not totally adverse, try one!


Thanks for the tip. I'm actually not that adverse to grapefruit so I'll have to give it a try. I wonder about how many I should eat each week in order to see the CM increase?!?

[Bellefior]

Just wanted to update on my test results, CD3 Bloodwork, Ultrasound, and HSG all came back normal/within normal parameters. We won't have the SA results until the middle of next week.

I did tell DH if his SA comes back normal, and I am not pregnant this cycle, then I am breaking down and spending the cash next month for the fertility monitor (instead of the OPKs I am currently using).

[phillytiger]

Bellefior - glad to hear things have come back normal so far...

ARGH - if AF is coming, I wish she'd just GET HERE :mad: I can't stand it keeping my hopes up a little bit... :eek:

[Janey]

Thanks for the tip. I'm actually not that adverse to grapefruit so I'll have to give it a try. I wonder about how many I should eat each week in order to see the CM increase?!?
I'm not sure... but I eat a grapefruit almost every day for breakfast, and I have plenty o' CM. Another thing that i didn't mention before... are you getting 64 oz. water a day? Drinking all of your water will help your CM production as well. (I am bad about the water myself)

[Chris~n~Jen]

I'm not sure... but I eat a grapefruit almost every day for breakfast, and I have plenty o' CM. Another thing that i didn't mention before... are you getting 64 oz. water a day? Drinking all of your water will help your CM production as well. (I am bad about the water myself)

I did know about the water. I actually purchased a Bubba Keg at Wal-mart last July. I don't know if you know what it is but it is a mini keg with handles. :D It holds 64 ounces. So in the morning at work I fill it all the way up and then it stays on my desk all day. Because it is keg like and the middle part is metal it stays cold all day. Then at the end of the day I put it in the fridge at work so it gets nice and cold again before the next day. I have to admit that I have been slacking a bit lately and not finishing it all but for the most part I'm pretty good about getting the 64 ounces each day.
Anyway, just thought I would share my water drinking technique. Before the bubba keg I hardly drank any water at all.
I think could manage to eat a grapefruit for breakfast. :)

[tealynn]

Welcome Pride&Prejudice

Bellefior that's positive news on your test results!

MrsHill didn't know about that grapefruit but every little thing helps (i guess!!!)

I'm CD14 today and things are progressing right along on FF. Can someone tell me how to set up the different factors on my chart that I've seen on others, like how to mark if you've had a drink, have a headache, etc. Or is that a special feature of the VIP version? I'm can be program challenged at times :o

Good luck to everyone this weekend trying to catch the eggie... I will be too! And to everyone else, I wish you a nice, peaceful relaxing weekend.

[jessied1025]

A quick post:

Welcome to the newbies!!

phillytiger sorry about the BFN. Hopefully AF will come and go quickly.

bellefior glad to hear that the results are coming back normal so far...

Good luck to anyone testing.

As for me 10 DPO and I haven't started spotting yet. (crossing fingers) My temp went up this last 2 days, which is a good sign as well. However, as the afternoon went on I just feel blah...I hope that is not a bad sign that AF is going to make an unwanted visit. Here's hoping the spotting & low temps stay far far away!!

Hope you all have a good weekend.

[ABirney]

Hi everyone!
mrspell sorry the witch showed.
Welcome mrshill and pride&prejudice!
chris-n-jen sorry you are having such a confusing cycle.
Yay to those that O'd! Hope you caught your eggs!
jessied and sherb hopefully you guys have FPS!!
ptcrn sorry DH's SA wasn't very good... hopefully the recheck will be better.
polkadot yay for the high reading on the FM!
phillytiger sorry for the BFN... hopefully the witch stays away though!
bellefior glad to hear your b/w turned out good.
Sorry to anyone I missed!
I'll have to look for one of those bubba keg things... I am horrible at drinking my water and I can only drink it really cold or else I gag on it... I know I need to drink much more of it for both CM reasons and wt loss.

[pride&prejudice]

Thanks for the welcome.

I never knew that about the CM and water thing Mrs. Hill. Guess that's all the mroe reason to get my water intake up.

[polkadot]

Welcome to mrshill and pride&prejudice, hope your stays are short and sweet!

mrspell~ (((hugs)) sorry af showed..she sucks!

chris-n-jen~ Dont you hate it when you think you have it all figured out and then Bam!! Your body gives you to finger....i hate that...i hope you can figure it out soon...but until you do...keep on bding..

jessied~ I hope that its FPS setting in...

sherb~ i hope those are FPS for you too...

ptcrn ~sorry about DH's SA...but dont give up..my cousin's hubby has low sperm count and they have two beautiful boys...keep the faith...

phillytiger~ Sorry about the BFN....its not over till she shows...

bellefior~ Yay! for normal b/w...hope you get a BFP soon...

[fsb2005]

No time for SOs, sorry all. Ok, just one to Mrs. Hill - glad you're joining us over here. :)

So, just a quick update for me - we stopped BDing on CD 14 (reminder, we're trying Shettles for a girl this month). I haven't been that excited, because while I've O'd at CD 17 twice, I've also O'd at CD 21 twice (and the last was the most recent). So, I've been thinking that I would again O at CD 21, and CD 14 would be way too early to possibly catch the egg.

I'm trying not to get my hopes up, but I'm thinking I might O tomorrow (CD 17). All the signs are there, and I've noticed the last few cycles that my temps like to take a halfway jump for a couple days right before they jump all the way up to the post-O area. And this is the second day now of being in the midway jump of temps....

Still, even if I O on CD 17, I know that having last BD'd on CD 14 gives me only a small probability of actually getting pregnant. On the other hand, it would be like a PERFECT Shettles attempt, which would make me happy.

So, fingers crossed that tomorrow is O day!

[ChicagoKate]

Tealyn -- I do believe that the feature you are referring to is for VIP members only sorry!

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I am 6DPO today and so far so good for the 2ww. I have been feeling like crap all weekend with a bloated belly/full uterus feeling. I know it is too early for EPS but I'm still keeping my fingers crossed that this is our month.

Good luck to all! I hope you are having a nice weekend.

[phillytiger]

Hey all - busy weekend here! AF showed up in full force yesterday :( I'm definitely disappointed, but here we go again...CD2 here...

Threadmistress, please move me to waiting to O...

[Janey]

FSB it's good to see another Charting-To-Avoid graduate in here. :)

Chris-n-Jen - The 'bubba keg' cracks me up. :D It sounds like a good idea though; I might have to get one! 'Course, I'll have to find somewhere other than walmart to buy it since B has boycotted walmart and won't let us shop there. :p Also -- somebody (maybe Aletheia?) compiled a big list of TTC tips-n-tricks including a bunch of CM ones. They're listed out in post #4 of the Maybe Mamas thread (http://www.constantchatter.com/showpost.php?p=457851&postcount=4). Hopefully some of that will help you.

[fsb2005]

phillytiger - sorry to hear AF showed. :(

Ptcrn - I was just looking through the charts on the front page...that is some dip you had there on CD 6. :D

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Well, I'll be very interested to see what tomorrow's temp brings. If it's way up, I'll be very happy - it would mean the Shettles timing was perfect!! If not, then I haven't O'd yet and catching the egg this cycle is looking pretty grim.

ETA: if anyone is looks at my chart before I update with tomorrow's temp and wonders what the hell I'm talking about -- the O date FF is calling is not right. My temps usually go up just a little bit right before I O, and then they go up A LOT. So FF usually calls a too-early O for a couple of days, and then once the temps actually stay at the real post-O level for a couple of days it will move the crosshairs to a later O date.

[ChicagoKate]

phillytiger-- sorry to hear that the HO showed. Best of luck catching that egg in May!

fsb2005 - That's interesting about FF moving your O date. I had that happen this cycle and I too agree that I O'd the second O date it gave me. Interesting. . .

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I'm 7DPO and had a temp drop this AM. I am hoping that it goes up tomorrow so that I can call it an implantation dip. Fingers crossed!

Can I be moved to testing 5/8-5/14? I am going to hold of testing until early next week. Thanks!

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[Chris~n~Jen]

Sorry about AF phillytiger.
Thanks for posting the link MrsHill. I'm going to have to check that out.
Curious about today's temp fsb.
Fingers crossed for a spike for you tomorrow ChicagoKate!


chris-n-jen~ Dont you hate it when you think you have it all figured out and then Bam!! Your body gives you to finger....i hate that...i hope you can figure it out soon...but until you do...keep on bding..

Yea, this really sucks! :mad: I thought I knew myself pretty well and then this crazy cycle starts. :mad:

Chris-n-Jen - The 'bubba keg' cracks me up. It sounds like a good idea though; I might have to get one! 'Course, I'll have to find somewhere other than walmart to buy it since B has boycotted walmart and won't let us shop there.
I think you can also get them at Target. :)

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CD22 and still no O according to FF. I usually have a 24 or 25 day cycle so AF would be making an apperance this week. I don't know what the heck is going on. I'm not sure if I should be expecting her to show or what. My boobs are super sore today. They have been getting increasingly sore over the last couple of days. So that could be a sign AF is coming. :(

[cowgirl]

Tealyn:You can enter that info on the long form but it only shows up on VIP members charts.
phillytiger: Sorry to hear AF showed.
MrsHill:Thanks for the link it was great info.
bellefior:Great news that everything is coming back normal so far.
Chris n Jen & MrsR:You guys maybe right that I have not o'd yet.

Well my temp has been 98.4 for the last few days with a big drop sunday but that could be from not sleeping well. I am wonder if the warmer weather has something todo with my high temps.

[ChicagoKate]

Chris~n~Jen: It looks to me like you O'd on CD 14 or CD16. I think FF is not giving you and O date b/c you don't have CM data. Maybe have the FF advisor analyze your chart for you? Good luck!

[fsb2005]

Chris~n~Jen - I think you O'd on CD 16. That would make you about 6DPO right now. Given your prior LPs of 9 and 11, AF would show (if she's going to!) in 3-5 days. Not sure why FF isn't giving you crosshairs - maybe with a couple days more of high temps it will.

[armadillo]

Chris~n~Jen, I would agree with the others and think you O'd on CD16.

Phillytiger, sorry to hear about AF. :(

FF gave me crosshairs, so I'm waiting to test...probably May 12/13.

[jessied1025]

Hey Ladies,

A few quick replies:
phillytiger sorry to hear that AF showed. (((HUGS)))

chris~n~Jenn I too agree with the others, I think you O'd on CD16.

As for me I tested Sunday I got a BFN! :( My temp also dropped yesterday and the spotting started later in the morning. AF should probably show either later today or tomorrow. Ugh, I guess it is on to another month.

[polkadot]

well...i started getting a high rating on my monitor....i am starting to feel slight cramps so lets hope i will O soon...we have been pretty consistent with the Bd but i think we may take the night off...dont wann get too tired ;)

I have my cycle day 21 bloodwork on Friday so hopefully I will O before then or the doctor may think I dont O and automatically put me on Clomid.

This weekend I found out that a couple that are friends of our are going through the same thing as Brian and I...they had a chemical pregnancy in March and she is a late O'er like me and that she started bloodwork this month too...its such a small world that we are all going through the same thing. ..atleast i dont feel like the only one...:rolleyes:

I hope things get sorted out this month and my body will be scared of the clomid enough to get PG...fingers crossed...:D

[Chris~n~Jen]

Thank you, thank you, thank you all! I am so glad I'm not going crazy. After hearing all you say you think I O'd on CD16 and given the advise of ChicagoKate, I had a FF advisor look at my chart. She seemed to think I O'd on CD16 also. She asked why I discarded CD17 temp and I told her because of the two drinks. She said to put it back in. The drinking will spike the temp a bit but not just that much. So I un-discarded :rolleyes: the temp. Guess what?!??!?? I've got crosshairs! YIPPEE!

So threadmistress, can you please move me to Think I O'd... testing 05/06 or 05/07!

[pocahontas]

well...i started getting a high rating on my monitor....i am starting to feel slight cramps so lets hope i will O soon...we have been pretty consistent with the Bd but i think we may take the night off...dont wann get too tired ;)

I have my cycle day 21 bloodwork on Friday so hopefully I will O before then or the doctor may think I dont O and automatically put me on Clomid.

This weekend I found out that a couple that are friends of our are going through the same thing as Brian and I...they had a chemical pregnancy in March and she is a late O'er like me and that she started bloodwork this month too...its such a small world that we are all going through the same thing. ..atleast i dont feel like the only one...:rolleyes:

I hope things get sorted out this month and my body will be scared of the clomid enough to get PG...fingers crossed...:D I couldn't agree with you more POLKA! I have my CD 21 b/w next week and I am hoping this cycle is it for me to 'cuz I don't want to be anywhere NEAR Clomid. :rolleyes:

[ChicagoKate]

Glad to clear things up Chris~n~Jen!!

Sorry about teh BFN Jessied1025.

[pride&prejudice]

ChicagoKate- Fingers crossed for you!
philly tiger-Sorry to hear AF showed

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I finally started taking temps today. I completely forgot Friday and Saturday. I had it sitting next on the night stand but just got up as normal and started doing things around the house until it hit me and hour later that I forgot! Duh! I hope its not this hard to remember all the time.

It was funny though, DH didn't realize that charting meant taking temps, and he was completely confused this morning as to why I was taking my temp. :)

[Bellefior]

QOTD--

Does anyone know if having an HSG can delay O? Last month I O'ed somewhat early for me (day 14), but the OPKs showed a definite darker progression way before I O'ed last month. Today is day 14 and I can barely make out the test line compared to the control. PS. My average O date according to FF is around day 16.

[phillytiger]

chris~n~jen - congrats on O'ing! And I totally agree w/ the FF advisor, 2 drinks wouldnt' have caused that big of a jump - looks like a good temp rise to me :)

jessied - so sorry AF showed - I'm right there with you :(

pride&prejudice - I always have a harder time with my temps on the weekend, I think it's b/c I get out of my usual routine...but it does get easier, and becomes more of a habit, no worries!

polka - fingers crossed that you O this week!!! (can't help you with the HSG question though!)

chicagokate - fingers crossed that's an implantation dip!!!

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Nothing exciting here - CD3 - bleh. Just chillin' until it's time to start bd'ing again. But thank goodness it's not that time yet - with 4 performances this weekend and 4 more next weekend, we're EXHAUSTED :) At least bd time won't be until after the show closes...

[teacher_jessica]

Question: How in the world do you restrain yourself from testing early?

I haven't been too successful at restraint so far myself and it's really way too early to be testing anyways (I'm only 9/10 dpo). Argh. I cave in too easily to myself! :p

Another question, I see in some of the posts above that alcoholic beverages can affect your temperature. I have a glass of wine here and there and am curious to know about how much that will affect my temps! TIA

[Janey]

Chris-n-Jen & Cowgirl - I'm glad you liked the link. FWIW, I disagree with some of the nutritional tips... like not eating spinach. Spinach is a superfood, I'm not going to stop eating it. I'll just be sure to take my Viactivs. Also, do some research before you do some of the things like Raspberry Leaf Tea... there have been mixed reports on its results (http://konzababy.tripod.com/RRL.htm).

Chris-n-Jen - I concur with everyone else... it looks to me like you O'ed on CD16. So, go have some pineapple. ;)

polkadot, it is bittersweet that you have found this comraderie in your friend. I am glad you & she have found this extra support.

phillytiger - what are you performing??


Question: How in the world do you restrain yourself from testing early?

I think everybody wants to know the answer to that question. :D I have been charting for 6 months and know that my LP varies from 11/12 days. Because of that, I tell myself I won't test until 13 DPO. Who knows if that'll work when I actually get to that point... but it's worth a shot!

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[pocahontas]

QOTD--

Does anyone know if having an HSG can delay O? Last month I O'ed somewhat early for me (day 14), but the OPKs showed a definite darker progression way before I O'ed last month. Today is day 14 and I can barely make out the test line compared to the control. PS. My average O date according to FF is around day 16.BELLEFIOR, since I wasn't charting last time I had an HSG, I'm not sure but I can tell you in a few days since I had mine Monday and today is CD 11. I should know by Sunday for sure.

[Chris~n~Jen]

Ok, I have seriously been starring at my chart ALL.DAY. I am just so happy to have crosshairs. :D

So now that I can stop obsessing over if I O'd, I have plenty of time to start obsessing over all the FPS that are going to show up tomorrow morning for sure! All those 7DPO symptoms that appear! :rolleyes:

[phillytiger]

MrsHill - I'm performing in a community theater production of West Side Story - I'm one of Maria's girls - Consuela (in the Shark gang). This is particularly funny b/c I am very pale & blonde, and have had to do serious self-tanning & wear a wig to look Puerto Rican!!! :D But it's so much fun! DH is in the show too - he's one of the Shark guys, so we're in the same gang :) I've done lots of theater over the years, and dragged DH into it after we got married - but he has a great time! At this point, we do one show together a year and then do other stuff the rest of the year. It's been so much fun, but it's a big time commitment, so I'm getting ready to be done...May 13 is our final show! I'll miss it, but LOVE having my nights back :)

[polkadot]

I have seriously been starring at my chart ALL.DAY. I am just so happy to have crosshairs

Jen~ I do this all the time...like its actually gonna change every 15 minutes or I am going to see something I didnt see the last 10 times I looked at it...it is crazy what TTC can do to you...:D

[fsb2005]

Well, I think the Shettles timing might have worked! This morning wasn't the highest post-O temp I've had, but based on other signs, I do think I O'd on CD 17. Which would mean I BD'd 3 days before, then stopped.

Anyway, still greatly decreased chance of getting pregnant, but I'm amazed I timed Shettles right.

We'll see what tomorrow brings. If it's a high temp, I'll move over to I think I O'd, but for now I'll just wait...

[ABirney]

Hi ladies.. hope everyone is doing well...
No time for individual s/o's... but I did want to share the cool thing I did on lunch break today... I went to my SIL's ultrasound and got to see that! And we found out it's a boy. It was really cool. They did the normal ultrasound and then had the 3D one at the end. Can't wait until I have one of my own punkin.. someday...
Have a great night everyone!

[ChicagoKate]

I too am guilty of FF OCD. I swear during the 2ww I am CONSTANTLY checking that thing as if during the day it will change and tell me I am suddenly pregnant. Crazy!

My temp went back up today so I'm praying that yesterday's 7DPO dip was an implantation dip. We'll see. . .

[MrsR]

quick stop in to say "hi". My temps keep going down which is annoying since I thought I was going to O yesterday . . . unfortunately it looks like I may O today so I wish I took last night off so that DH would be more likely to want to BD tonight . . . cr*p:mad:

[tealynn]

Speaking of chart OCD:rolleyes:
Would someone look at my chart and tell me what you think? I was thinking I O'ed Saturday, based on my two high temps Sunday and Monday but todays temp is lower and maybe I haven't even O'ed yet? I was still having EWCM up until yesterday so maybe I'm still waiting to O?

This is my first month trying to interpret so I'm pretty lost...

Thanks!:D

[ChicagoKate]

tealyn -- I would guess that you are still waiting to O due to the CM data. Keep up the BDing until you are sure!! Good luck!

MrsR -- Does look like you might O today or tomorrow. I have read that doing the BD on the day BEFORE O is the best chance so that the swimmers are there waiting when the EGG is released. Good luck!

[fsb2005]

tealynn - that's a tough one. I think it's one of those cases where you'll have to wait and see. On the one hand, your temp has been pretty high - higher than most people's pre-O temps. But on the other hand, you temp was just as high on CD 10...sometimes I've seen the big spikes up and down on an annovulatory cycle (not that that means that's what you're having!!). Most likely you did O around CD 14-16, but you can't really know for sure until you have a few more temps and see what your CM is doing.

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For me, it's looking like I did O on CD 17 (again, ignore FF -- its crosshairs are wrong and in a couple days it will move them to CD 17).

So, Threadmistress, can you please move me to I Think I O'ed- Testing 5/8-5/14? Thanks!

[Chris~n~Jen]

Jen~ I do this all the time...like its actually gonna change every 15 minutes or I am going to see something I didnt see the last 10 times I looked at it...it is crazy what TTC can do to you...
It is crazy what TTC can do. The first couple of cycles I wasn't nearly as obsessed. I really didn't think I would get this crazy about it, but going on cycle 6 with no baby really drives you crazy. ;)

Hope the Shettles method worked for you fsb and you get that girl you want.

ABirney, I think those 3-D u/s are so cool.

Fingers crossed for an implantation dip ChicagoKate.

MrsR, we didn't bd on my O date but FF still gave us a high reading in the intercourse interpration. I think you are good as long as you BD the day before O.

Sorry tealynn I am no help. I am horrible at chart interpretting. :rolleyes:

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Temp went down a bit this morning. This cycle has been so crazy, I really just don't have much hope for it this month. I had some cramping yesterday. I guess we'll see. :(

[teacher_jessica]

Ladies, I have a question...

I have been keeping my chart on Ovusoft and on FF and they show different O dates for me. There should be a link to the charts in my siggy so would anyone mind checking them out and seeing which you agree with? TIA!!!

[Bellefior]

Jessica for some strange reason when I click on the link for your FF chart, my own pops up! Very strange!

[MrsR]

jessica -- mine too

[Chris~n~Jen]

jessica same thing happened to me.

[CLW4KU]

I don't have FF, but for what it's worth it took me to the log in page!

[Bellefior]

Yet another negative OPK. I'm starting to wonder if all the stress from last week's testing really f'ed up my cycle.

[MrsR]

bellefior -- I had an HSG earlier this cycle and although I am still around the time that I O, the fact that my peak readings on my monitor have come and gone and I had 2 positive OPKs the last two evenings with no O yet is very strange for me. Hopefully tonight I will get a negative OPK and a temp rise tomorrow:D

[Janey]

phillytiger - That is awesome! :D If your theater group has a website with pics I'd love to see them.

teacher_jessica - I can't see your FF chart either. I think what is confusing is that Ovusoft has disregarded your temp on CD16. I think Ovusoft is looking for some sort of CM Dry-up along with your three high temps in order to call your Ovulation. I can't tell by your notes if anything more would cause them to disregard it as you are keeping them hidden... I see it was a saturday -- did you drink or something that Friday night? Just trying to figure out if there's a reason Ovusoft would say you didn't O the previous night.

Anyway - just goes to show you how important it is not let computer software interpret your chart! :) Ovusoft has done a pretty good job for me so far, but I did have to adjust my ovulation date on my 3rd cycle (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=3&id=mrshill&tc=0&p=).

[jessied1025]

Jessica your link brought me to mine FF. Strange...

Still waiting for AF to get here. My temp went down again today, but the spotting has been very light.

[JayJay]

jessica, what you need to do to make your chart pop up when we click on it is this:

Go to Fertility Friend.
Click on Sharing--> Home Page Set Up
Then, at the top you will see a link to FF that has a specific number/letter combo after it. (That is your unique link)

Copy that link, and post it into your signature. What is happening is that we're clicking on your link, and we're actually going to our charts because your haven't specified what exact page you want! :D Posting that link in your siggy will take care of it! Don't feel silly, I had to have this explained to me too! HTH!

[teacher_jessica]

Sheesh! Thanks for explaining that ladies! I believe I've got it fixed now so let me know if it worked (or didn't). :o

[stevesbabygirl]

Well, it looks like we won't be TTC until July now . DH's aunt is coming out this summer instead of next, and I promised I would take her granddaughter to Disneyland and go on all the rides that his aunt wouldn't go on. I'm actually pretty okay with it, because now I won't feel pressured to get pg in a few months, so that the baby will be born before they come out to California.

[tealynn]

Thanks ChicagoKate, and fsb2005 for the chart info. I guess I'll just wait patiently (right!) and see what my next couple of temps bring.

[cowgirl]

Sorry not much time for S/O.

Can you guys check out my chart FF gave me an O date when I discard sundays extremly low te