TTC after a loss.....if at first you dont succeed try try again!!

[Steve's Sweety]

Anyone else still around?

I'm 5DPO today and while I've had a good feeling about this cycle and have pretty much been trying to convince myself this is our cycle, my chart is not looking too stellar and I am starting to have a hard time with things again.

[jenahdawn]

I don't know what "DPO" I am (I've never charted) but I'm CD 20. (I had to have jrose help me with that one...)

[Lanapoo]

I'm here. I'm CD8 today. Nothing exciting going on. I think I want to truly see what happens this cycle though. I'm going to ask DH if he just wants to BD every other day or every two days this month and see if that works. That sounds like fun to me and this way I won't have to worry about when I O.

Tish - I think 5DPO is a little early to be saying that your chart isn't looking good. How could your chart be reflecting anything bad at 5DPO? It's just too early, so try to hang on to those good feelings you've been having :)

[Steve's Sweety]

Jenah -
Ooh, you may be at a similar place in your cycle as me.

Lana -
Just commenting on my insignificant temp rise right after o.
I still have a feeling that this is our cycle.

[Annette]

I hope everyone is doing well.

Tish-You're chart looks really good! I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you that this is your month.

Jenah-DPO is days past Ovulation. Hope you get a BFP!

me: Just waiting it out till June. My doc wants me in for a 3 month follow-up in June. I am hoping to TTC before then since all my other stuff will be done with. My wisdom tooth extraction is set for beginning of May. DH will be away for 2 weeks at the end of May.

[Steve's Sweety]

Annette -
Thanks, I am trying not to read too much into it since it has been a lot warmer here the last couple days.

I didn't realize you were still waiting to TTC, other than getting that testing you mentioned. I hope that you are able to start as soon as you are hoping for.

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9 DPO
I'm feeling like AF is on her way - sugar cravings, bloating, etc. The next few days should tell me more and I am definitely keeping the hope!

We need some more BFP's in here!

[MrsCantDecide]

Hello Ladies, I hope I can join you guys here. I just had a m/c 3/18, and while we were told to take 4 - 6 weeks before we could get pg again... I just don't think my TTC brain will let me!

CC Name: MrsCantDecide
Me: Stefani/29
DH: Shane/32
Married since: 5/4/02
Off BCP since: April 04
DS: Lucas, 3/5/06
TTC #2 since: Aug 06
Known issues/test results: m/c #1: 11/22/06 @ ~5 1/2 weeks, m/c #2: 3/18/07 @ 6 1/2 weeks
Chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/19934f
Current status: waiting to stop bleeding and see when I get (if I get) fertile CM. That will determine our date when to TTC again.

At this point, I'm going to chart CM only and maybe do OPKs, because I do not want to stress about TTC. I spent a year stressing about TTC with my son, and I don't want to get that way again, however, since I've had 2 m/c, I think that I have possibly something wrong that needs to be caught early in pregnancy -- like low progesterone.

I'm getting some blood tests done 4/9, and have a doctor's appt 4/12 to talk about the results.

Have a great day girls!

[Lanapoo]

Welcome Stefani, I'm very sorry to hear about your loss. I have a close friend who had two miscarriages after her DS was born before getting pg again with a healthy pregnancy. She now has two healthy DS's. I don't believe that she looked into any b/w or anything but she did mention thinking for a while that maybe she just couldn't sustain a pregnancy anymore. Luckily she was wrong. I truly hope there is nothing wrong for you :( but I thought I'd share her story. She's really given me a lot of hope since I had my m/c.

Me - I'm CD14 right now. I felt like yesterday was majorly fertile for me, lots of EWCM, O pains (I usually get those a day or two before I O). DH and I had lots of fun last night ;) . My drive is back with a vengeance (Yay!) and I've been wearing DH out since AF went away :p . For all our talk of possibly putting off TTC until we get back from Vegas next month, we did not prevent. So the wait is on again....

[LynzeyAHL]

So the wait is on again....

and then we agonize about why oh why do we do this...

then we remember and the oh yea light comes on

and we wait s'more.

Let me tell you how virtuous *I* am from all the patience! lol :o

[Steve's Sweety]

Stefani -
I am so sorry that you have had to join us but we welcome you.

Lana -
That sounds like a sign to me. :)


Where's everyone at in their cycle?

[lilhimley]

Hey Tish, no pressure, but will you be testing anytime soon? I'm crossing all my parts for you.

Jen

[Steve's Sweety]

Jen -
It is so nice of you to come cheer me on. :)

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Umm...ok, I didn't post this anywhere else yet on CC because I am so nervous but I got a very faint line this AM. Well, actually I got 2 faint lines because I took 2 different tests. I had bloodwork done but didn't hear back, and now I'm just waiting for DH to come home so I can take CBE Digital (he asked me to wait until he came home).
When he saw the lines this AM he said he thinks we can be "cautiously optimistic" but I am nervous because I am 12DPO and I can't even get the line to photograph, it's that light.
But I knew you all would understand. :)

(And please if anyone who is in another thread with me reads this, please don't say anything yet, I will try to come back soon and update).

[Lanapoo]

OMG Tish! I'm praying this is it for you.

[lilhimley]

Oh geez, Tish! I just want to call you, I've been hoping for you so hard. I'm leaving work now and won't be able to check on CC until tomorrow. I hope to see what we all want to see. BTW, after my two losses, on this pregnancy, I tested at least twice a day for three weeks before my 5week ultrasound. Thank goodness for dollar store test. I got faint positives at 11dpo and on, very faint, but definitely lines. You go girl. I know you'll keep us posted.

[Steve's Sweety]

Lana -
Thanks!

Jen -
You are so sweet!

I think I am 12DPO today so I was hoping the lines would be darker but they are definitely lines.

I can't say I blame you at all for testing so much. I am so glad you have finally been able to get good news.

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So I thought I'd come back to show you wonderful ladies this

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/Natitia/Pics%20-%20Misc/IMG_2854.jpg

:D :D :D :D

[Lanapoo]

Woo hoo!!!! Happy, healthy, and VERY sticky 9 months to you :D

I'm seriously getting all choked up I'm so happy for you!

[Annette]

Tish-I just had to come back here and check in. Congratulations!!! Have a Happy and Healthy 9 months!

[lilhimley]

Yay Tish! Woo hoo! Keep us posted when you've officially outed yourself we can check on you.

[Jill1228]

Congrats to Tish! :)

I am still hoping we are going to TTC in May

[LynzeyAHL]

I just figured there were wasn't any easy way to sum up the excitement of someone graduating than that. LOL so (cautiously) CONGRATULATIONS

[Steve's Sweety]

Lana -
Thanks!

Annette -
Thank you!

Jen -
I went and outed myself after I posted my test in here. :)

Jill -
Thanks!

I will be checking in to see how things go next month for you.

Lynzey -
Thanks!

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I had the TM graduate me from the charting thread. :D

Just waiting to hear back from the Dr's office about my bloodwork on Fri. http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/Natitia/Blinkies/Blinkies%20-%20TTC/BetaDoublingVibes.gif

Do any of the other graduates know if there are there any "pregnancy after a loss" groups/threads around?

I will still come in to check on you ladies of course!

For now I'll leave you with some fresh
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/Natitia/Blinkies/Blinkies%20-%20TTC/pouringdust.gif

[Annette]

Tish-Hope your betas are good!

Question-So when you get pg again after a m/c, does the doctor do anything different? Do you have more appts and u/s's?

I was just wondering what to expect next time.

[littlemia]

Delurking to say congratulations to Steve's Sweety. H&H 9 months!

[Lanapoo]

Annette - I think it depends on the doctor really. I don't think my doctor is going to treat me any differently when I get pg again, probably because he thinks that this was a fluke and that I'll most likely have a healthy pregnancy next time. I don't mind that attitude though because I have a feeling that I really won't want to go in at all until my first appointment (which probably wouldn't be until 8-10 weeks).

I want to protect myself next time, I want to pretend that I'm not pg until I see a heartbeat on a screen :(

[Sand]

I'm back again. It appears I had a very early miscarriage this last month. That makes 3. I have been only on progesterone the past 6 months of trying, and now i'm on to Femara next cycle.

Anyone want to share their experience with this drug?

Congratulations to Steve's Sweety. Can you put some dust in the water, i'm in your state. ;)

[Annette]

Sand-I'm sorry for your loss.

me: Well looks like AF is on her way. I am concerned cause my LP was short at 11 days, although 11-12 seems normal for me. Should I be concerned that this caused my m/c? I guess I will see what happens next month.

[LynzeyAHL]

Please pray for my sanity... I ran to the doctor for a blood test today b/c I went back on b.c. and wasn't feeling right so I did the stick thing thinking it would be nothing and got a bfp I won't have my results til the morning and I'm so scared right now

scared that DH will be mad (we'd been having problems and put ttc to rest for the time being and are working on not getting divorced) and I feel like part of that is robbing me of actually being a little excited and then I'm scared that my body is going to fail at doing what by nature I'm supposed to be able to do. GAWD this sucks...

so I had to come vent in here b/c dh reads my lj from time to time (I don't care but I don't want him to find out that way it would be worse) so I didn't want to out myself anywhere else just yet. :( :o

[Lanapoo]

Sand - I'm very sorry for your loss. I've never been on Femara but I really hope it works for you.

Lynzey - OMG, what a confusing time for you. (((HUGS))) I know everything will work out how it's supposed to.

Me - CD21. Don't know when I O'd but I'm pretty sure I'm in the 2ww. We shall see.

[LynzeyAHL]

my beta was 16 on cd 28 and my my progesterone only at 6.6.

The good news is that the last two chemical pregnancies it was less than 6.0. I'm on suplimentation with a redraw on monday. Though it wasn't planned I know I want this baby so AF better stay the hell away from me right now lol

*mental check* just be strong, just be strong, just be strong

[Steve's Sweety]

Annette -
Thanks! Just waiting to hear what the repeat was because that will give more info than just one number. My prog was good though so that is a relief.

I have heard different stories about doing things differently after a m/c. I think it really depends on the Dr. and how you are feeling. I would think (hope) that anyone who is really nervous would be allowed some extra reassurances - my Dr. is not the one I was seeing when I m/c but she is doing these early beta checks whereas I didn't have them last time. And I'm assuming if I ask I will be allowed an early u/s. If not, I will look elsewhere because I am determined to see an u/s with a live baby on it this time.

My LP when I got PG for my son was only around 9-10 days so I would try not to be concerned. You can, however, ask for it (your progesterone) to be checked at 7DPO next cycle if it will make you feel better.
Also, my first several cycles post m/c were different so it may still change for you. My LP's before DS were around 9 days, after him they were around 10-11, and after my m/c they went to 11-13.

littlemia -
Thanks!

Sand -
I am so sorry. I have no experience with Femara, only progesterone.
I will definitely send some dust your way, in fact it should arrive today in the form of snow! ;) :D


OMG Lynzey - how wacked would that be if you got PG *after* you went back on BCP (that is what you're saying happened, right)? I don't mean that in a bad way at all!
Gosh, I will be thinking of you and hoping *everything* goes well!
ETA: You came in while I was posting - So now I will say Congratulations!

[MrsCantDecide]

Well, Congratulations Steve's Sweety!!! How exciting!

Annette ~ Since I've had 2 m/cs, my doctor is going to do some preliminary blood work (I didn't have problems before having my son, just took forever to get pg) when I go for my beta to make sure it's at zero. I will be going in for repeat betas when I get pg, and I plan to see if I can convince them to give me a post ovulation progesterone test. I go see the doctor next Thursday, and I'll do my bloodwork on Monday.

Lanapoo ~ I wanted to have that attitude this time, but I can't, if I've gotta get testing done to make sure sure my betas are going up and my progesterone level is okay.

Sand ~ Sorry to hear that you are back. :( *Hugs!* Good Luck with the Femera, I don't have any experience with that myself either.

LyndzeyAHL ~ Wow, that's just crazy! *crossing fingers for you!* I hope that it all turns out well. I'm sure you'll be on pins and needles until you hear back from the doctor on Tuesday.

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As for me, TMI, but I had some crazy EWCM yesterday, but there was some spotting too as well. I'm not sure what that means at all.

I finally stopped spotting on Monday, after 2 1/2 weeks of bleeding. It's about time, not getting any for that long was making me crazy! ;) And my DH and I are not the best at being 'protected'....

Have a great weekend girls!

[LynzeyAHL]

my doctor called me today to check on me after I got my results. Basically what he said is that the 2% failure rate on absorbed birth control from what he's seen just in his practice is for plus size women. Basically BC is a one size fits all but when you have greater body mass its absorbed differently - I guess what he was saying is that I absorbed enough progesterone to help instead of prevent. And had he saw me (not the dr that was in the office the day I went) that he would have pushed me toward the pill rather than the patch or the ring.

I was mostly just SHOCKED - what a roller coaster.

[LynzeyAHL]

As for me, TMI, but I had some crazy EWCM yesterday, but there was some spotting too as well. I'm not sure what that means at all.


sometimes when the follie pops you can get a lil spotting from what I've read. if you're tryin get bd-ing

[Annette]

Lynzey-Congrats! I hope everything works out well for you.

MCD-2 1/2 weeks of bleeding? Yikes. My bleeding lasted a week. Hope you catch that eggie.

Tish-Thanks! How are you feeling?

me: My HCG is now less than 5, so I am glad things are getting back to normal. I thought AF was going to show up today since my temp dropped, but I'm only spotting. I am hoping we get the go ahead to TTC next month. I have my wisdom tooth surgery in a month.

[MrsCantDecide]

It's been quiet in here....

So I only had the 1 day of crazy EWCM, so I'm not sure what to call that. :rolleyes:

So I went for my repeat beta and the other tests on Monday. My HCG is 3, so officially not pg. I had a doctor's appt today (I kept what was supposed to be my 9 week visit appt) and instead we talked about my test results. She was glad I kept the appt.

So apparently I have 2 issues: 1 is (I'm probably getting this wrong) I want to say thrymboline, but something to do with clotting and mine and DH's genes together (I was confused, so I'm probably getting this all wrong!), and so I'll have to take special vitamins and baby aspirin next time I get pg. 2nd is something to do with my thyroid. one of my numbers was double what it was supposed to be, but she hadn't had any dealings with that, so she was going to call an endocrinologist and talk to them, and depending on what the endo. says, I may have to go see one as well.

She took more blood for a TSH test (whatever that is) and she is hoping to call me with more information probably early next week.

She told me to not get pg, but ummm... it's too late to tell me that! I can't help myself.... ever! :p

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Hope everything's good with you guys!!

[Steve's Sweety]

Lynzey -
I'm sure you must have told DH by now...come in and tell us how it went!

Annette -
I am feeling fine, physically, thanks.

Stefani -
Did you have any issues with DS? What made the Dr. decide to test for that?
There are quite a few women who have dealt with that around here. Do you know Phen/Sarah? She is one and I'm sure she would be glad to talk to you about it.

[LynzeyAHL]

Lynzey -
I'm sure you must have told DH by now...come in and tell us how it went!



OMG I was so SCARED but then it got to be Friday and I got home and I was like all panicky feeling so when he got home I was in the livingroom and had already started a fire b/c I was FREEZING. I was like I want to talk to you about something. And he was like what I said well I went to the doctor b/c I didn't have my period this month and he gave me a blood test and I'm pregnant. I'm sorry." then proceeded to bawl my eyes out b/c I was so relieved. He just had a big stupid grin on his face and gave me a hug. Later he was like "what were you afraid i was gonna be mad?!?" men :rolleyes:

[ivory]

Hi ladies. I have been gone a couple weeks (had to take a de-stress break again), and I see there are new people since then. :( I need to go back and read more in depth, get updated on everyone, before I post more.


Tish - Oh my gosh! I missed your news (sorry). Congratulations! I hope you're still checking here. I know you were getting discouraged (same here), so this is super. Gives me hope too. And since we m/c the same day, I was thinking hey, maybe this could be my cycle too. But I don't know, I'm in the 2ww now, and I don't feel like I did last time, so I don't feel terribly positive. But anyway, I hope you're doing great. I'm hoping for the best for you!


Me: I had my annual (pap) this past week and the doc felt something that could be a golf ball sized fibroid. Or she said it could be just the position of my uterus. So, she thinks since I had 2 ultrasounds back in November that didn't show anything, it's probably the latter. But I was thinking later that I've had pelvic exams for 10+ years, and noone has said this before. I know fibroids can be no big deal, but I just didn't need something else to worry about if I do get pg. I plan to call and question the nurse on this.

I also had a progesterone test at 6 dpo, which was 9.77. My doctor is not concerned, especially since it was 3.8 before I m/c last fall, and she feels that was result fo a failing pregnancy, not vice versa. But she said I can get tested again if I get pg. But for now, I've decided to be comfortable with this number, since it's almost 10 and I'm not on any meds.

[Lanapoo]

Hi ladies, sorry I've been MIA for a while but I was in Vegas with DH this last week and got back last night.

Annette - I hope AF has shown up for you so you can get started on your next cycle.

MCD - The reason the Dr doesn't want you to get pg is because if you do have thyroid problems there is a higher risk of m/c while thyroid levels are not normal. I have Hyperthyroidism and my thyroid has been doing well for a long time now.

Lynzey - Glad to hear that DH took the news well. Congratulations again!

Ivory - Sorry to hear about the possible fibroid. It depends on the type of fibroid if it could do any damage to a pregnancy I guess. I had a fibroid surgically removed two years ago. It was causing all sorts of problems for me in the way of heavy bleeding and bleeding when AF wasn't supposed to be there. Aside from having to have c-sections when I do have kids, it was the best thing I could have done. Things are SO much better when AF comes.

Okay, so I just realized that I've responded to two people about two different possible medical issues that I've had. I'm kind of a mess, ha ha.

But I do have some news of a medical nature that isn't bad.......BFP Baby!!!!

Looks like Vegas was lucky for me after all. I realized that I should have gotten AF at some point on Thursday or Friday. So this afternoon I ran to Wal-Mart to pick up some tests. Two majorly pink lines! DH won't be home until tonight so looks like you are the only ones that know so far :)

[LynzeyAHL]

Lana!!!!! omg congrats - December thread is hoppin - c'mon over when you're ready :o

[ivory]

Lanapoo - Wow! Congratulations! I am so, so happy for you. I hope everything goes wonderfully for you. Is your DH home yet??

Lynzey - Good to see you back, and with good news, too! Congrats! It sounds like you and DH are both happy about this. I hope things continiue to go well.

MrsCantDecide & Sand - I missed both of you joining (or sadly, rejoining). I'm terribly sorry for both of your losses.

Annette - Glad things are getting more normal for you and here's hoping you can ttc soon when you'd like to.



Me: Tomorrow (Monday) is 12 dpo for me, so I think we're going to test. There's been an increase in blessings around here lately, so I hope some of that rubs off on me.

[Lanapoo]

Thanks Lynzey and Ivory!

Ivory - Lots of baby dust coming your way! I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you!

DH still isn't home, it's his poker night and it's only 8pm here in AK so I'm sure he won't be home for another hour or two. He's probably dying for some guy time since we spent the last week (Vegas) with each other and no one else. I'm dying to tell someone in real life though. It's all I can do not to call my mom or friends :p

[MrsCantDecide]

Lanapoo ~ Congratulations!!! How exciting!

I think the thyroid thing is Thyroid peroxidase antibodies - my level is 77 and it's supposed to be 35. Don't know if you know what you have or not?

Steve's Sweety ~ I had some bleeding issues with DS, but nothing major. I just had red spotting very early in pregnancy.

I was thinking that Phen had antiphospholipid antibodies (I saw it on my results sheet) and I'm not sure how close that is to what I have. I do remember that she had to take baby aspirin though. I remember the name better though... thrombophelia.

Lynzey ~ That's great that your husband is all excited! That must be a relief!

ivory ~ Thanks. :) Did you test yet??

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Me ~ TSH were on this report (from a week ago) with a normal level of 1.55, so I'm not sure why my doctor ordered it again.

Just waiting on the doctor to get back to me after talking to the endocrinologist. It sucks waiting! ;) I just want to know what's going on! I'm just glad my doctor tested me without having confirmation in her hands of my first miscarriage.

Hope everyone's having a great week!

[lilhimley]

OMG! OMG! Congratulations lanapoo - and lynzey too! :D FYI, I'm in the September mommies thread - proof that it does happen after losses! Let's get some more BFP's in here.

Jen

[alootikki]

It is raining BFPs in here! :p Congrats Lana - what wonderful news!! And congrats to Lynzey and Tish too! You're all giving me so much hope - so happy for all of you!

MrsCantDecide and sand - I am so sorry for your losses. Any updates from the Dr?

Annette - how are you feeling these days?

ivory - have you tested?? Sending lots of good wishes your way!

I had a week-long pity party last week - BFN followed by a heavy/painful period, and the knowledge that it was my last chance for a 2007 baby. It just felt so unreal and hopeless. On top of that, I've been feeling so isolated from my IRL friends - they have all had effortless pregnancies, and every.single.one of them made some idiotic/insensitive comment this past week (talk about timing!).

But ANYWAY - last night I had a dream I had a BFP, and then I came in here and read all of the good news, and I'm feeling better and backing away from the edge again ;) I'm on CD 7 and hoping that this month is our month!

[Steve's Sweety]

Lynzey -
Glad it went well telling DH!

ivory -
Thanks!

You know, I haven't felt anything like I did last time so don't go by that...you are killing me over here at 12DPO and a smokin' looking chart - it actually reminds me of mine this cycle. I am rubbing babydust all over my screen for you!

I hope the fibroid turns out to be nothing!

Lana -
Congratulations again!

Stefani -
Ok, sorry...I have a bad memory but I knew she had something that reminded me of what you were mentioning, with the baby aspirin. At any rate I hope you get your test results very soon and that they can figure things out for you.

aloo -
Thanks!

Sorry about your insensitive friends. :rolleyes:
And really sorry AF found you again and I will be keeping everything crossed for you for this cycle - it would be one heck of a way to start a new year! :D

[ivory]

alootikki - Cool, you're back. Sorry you've been having a rough time, but it's great to hear you're feeling better now. And boo to the insensitive friends--that must be very hard to deal with. I know people that brag about how easily they get pregnant, etc. Why do people think that's cool?

MrsCantDecide - Hope you hear back from the doc soon. It sounds like you're getting good, thorough treatment.

Tish - Ha. I enjoyed your use of "smokin'" in reference to my chart.



Thanks for the good wishes, ladies. So, we tested. You all aren't going to believe this. Um, it was positive. Faint line, of course, but enough. I am too scared to fully accept it yet or look too far ahead into the future. So, can I just hang out here for now? I went for a progesterone & HCG quant today--we'll see how that goes. My doc's nurse has been really nice and said I can get a 6 1/2 week U/S (if the quants are good by then). I was glad they give some extra TLC after a previous loss. Anyway, I can't believe I'm reporting this so early, but I guess I put myself on the hook when I said I was going to test. :)

[LynzeyAHL]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IVORY!!!

March must have went out like a lion for some of us *eh-hem* ;)

Ivory I totally understand where you're coming from about being 'scared.' All I kept thinking was OMG please don't start before the test results come back. I got on Prog. right away and it made a world of difference. It was only 6.6 at 3w6d and by 4w4d with supplementation it was up to 23.9.

I had a HcG and Progesterone draw today and I'm PRAYING for some betas in the 64000 range so I can stop worrying and maybe start enjoying this a little. :o

[alootikki]

CONGRATULATIONS ivory!!! I am loving all of the good news this thread has lately!! :D I am sending you tons of good thoughts and sticky vibes!!

Now, can all of you preggo's please send over whatever special air you've been breathing?? ;)

[Lanapoo]

Holy Cow Ivory!!!! Woo hoo!!!! Sticky sticky vibes!

Thanks MCD, I'm not sure about thyroid numbers but I have the kind of thyroid problem where you lose weight and your heart races.

Thanks Aloo. Sorry about the hard AF. Hopefully you'll catch whatever seems to be going on in this thread and your BFP dream will come true ;)

Thanks again Tish :)

[Steve's Sweety]

WOO HOO Ivory! I knew that chart looked good! :D
CONGRATULATIONS!
I am soooo happy for you!!! :D :D :D
Feel free to PM me or email me anytime (tish75 at gmail.com) if you want to chat about things since I have been going down this road just slightly ahead of you.

Lynzey -
Hoping for great numbers for you!

aloo -
I'll gladly send some your way - I would be so happy for us to all "graduate" together!

[LynzeyAHL]

Betas are back...

Week from the Last Menstrual Period (LMP) Amount of hCG in mIU/ml
3 5 - 50 I was: 16 3w6d
4 4 - 426 289 4w4d
5 19 - 7,340 7883 5w4d
6 1,080 - 56,500

[LynzeyAHL]

that last post was a little smashed it must have took out the extra spaces I put in - anyrate the numbers on the left are the posted average range and the I put my numbers on the right

I'm about |-----------------------| this much excited right now and its growing by the day! go sticky baby go!

[Jill1228]

Lana, Ivory, Lynzey and Tish--BIG TIME CONGRATS!

Sending major SBVs your way

Well here is some TTC news. We are "pulling the goalie" on July 1st. That is when we head to Vegas

I am working out to peel off some weight...no more BSing!

[ivory]

Thanks everyone. I'm not doing so good right now, though. I POAS today and it was no darker than yesterday--maybe even lighter. Then the nurse called with results (from yesterday). My HCG was so low, that even before restesting, they are concerned. The only good thing is that my progesterone was 12.6 (was 9.77 last week at 6po).

So, I have a repeat HCG tomorrow. If this threatens to become our 2nd loss, DH and I will not be waiting for 3. I am almost 33, and I want to at least start my family. If my doc doesn't want to investigate, we will call someone else right away. Does one see an RE if the problem is miscarriages, as opposed to infertility?

Gosh--I sound kind of matter-of-fact. I actually feel horrible. I was in a class when the nurse called, and when I tried to tell the instructor I was leaving early, I started crying in front of everyone.

[LynzeyAHL]

Ivory did they give you your acutal value? my doctor said the same thing its low - but then he followed that right up with you have to start somewhere.

You're in my thoughts!:o

[alootikki]

Oh ivory, I'm sorry you are dealing with this stress! Try to hang in there - maybe it was a late implantation and that's why the HCG is lower? I'm thinking of you today and praying for the best - we're all here cheering you on!

[Lanapoo]

Ivory - I'm so sorry you're going through all this stress :( I really hope that it's still early and your repeat test tomorrow will give you some good news.

[Steve's Sweety]

ivory -
Sending big crappy internet {{HUggSS}} your way. I wish I could come sit with you while you go through this difficult waiting phase.
Please keep us posted as you can.

[ivory]

Hey guys. Thanks for your kind words and thoughts. I can't get online during the day, or I'd have posted sooner. I'm headed for another m/c. I took another HPT today and it was almost nothing. I was scheduled to go for another quant today, so I called the nurse and told them about the HPT. So she got me in with the Dr today. My Dr was understanding that I want to proceed now as if I've had more than 2 miscarriages. So, in addition to the quant, they took like 4 viles of blood today.

I may still go to an RE--which my Dr seemed cool with. I am ready for some medical aggression.

I am doing okay right now--I am able to be distracted by this need to take action and get answers. I had to force myself to go to work today, because as soon as I'm not busy, I'm afraid I'll lose it. And I have to not think of little things, like how I was looking forward to joining some of you in the Dec thread.

I feel selfish to focus on me so much--sorry. But if anyone can think of tests I should get or actions I should take, throw 'em out there. I want to make sure I'm not missing any avenues. Thanks for everyone's support.

[lilhimley]

Ivory, I'm so sorry. All I can offer is to recommend that you let yourself lose it if you need to. I went right back to work after both of my losses and shouldn't have. I broke down about two weeks after the second loss and needed to take a couple days off work to take care of me and cry a lot. I'll be thinking about you.

[Steve's Sweety]

ivory -
Oh no. I am so so sorry. I have been thinking about you ever since I posted earlier so came back to check and am sad to hear this news.

I am glad your Dr. is willing to proceed as you want to. The only things I can think to tell you about checking for are both clotting disorders. One of them is something like antiphospholid antibodies and the other one escapes me, but in both cases you would take something like baby aspirin or heparin (blood thinner).
Sorry that probably doesn't help much but it's all I can remember off the top of my head.

Again I am so sorry and wish I could be there to give you a hug.

[Jill1228]

Ivory, I am so sorry to hear this. This is the time to be selfish and focus on yourself, hon!

Hugs coming atcha

[ivory]

It's early-ish, but I am falling asleep sitting up. But before I doze off, I wanted to come back and say thanks. You all are so sweet, that it made me cry. The support means a lot and really helps. Good night.

[alootikki]

ivory, I am so sorry sweetie :( I have been thinking of you all day - this is so unfair.

Since you are trying to keep busy with finding answers right now, I wanted to suggest a book I read right after my d/c - it's called "Coming to Term: Uncovering the truth about miscarriages" by Jon Cohen. He goes through and examines almost every possible factor/cause out there, and it helped me ot come up with a list of questions for my doctor.

Gosh, a book rec seems so freaking inadequate right now - I really hate that you are going through this. Sending you tons of hugs!!

[Lanapoo]

I'm just so sorry Ivory. I HATE that you have to go through this again. It's just not fair. I want to wrap my arms around you and give you a big hug :( I'm praying for you though...

[Annette]

I am back after a weekend at a friend's wedding and seeing my parents.

Ivory-I am sooo sorry you are going through this again. Sending out more {{{hugs}}}

Congrats Lana!

Alootiki-Sorry about AF.

[ivory]

Thank you again everyone. For your thoughts and advice and internet hugs--they were much needed. I did stay home today and mostly lay in bed or researched. I plan to see an RE, but so far my OB has sent for 3 tests: anti-cardiolipin antibodies, lupus anticoagulant, and chromosome tests for me and DH. I think the anti-cardiolipin is a type of anti-phospholipid? HCG was 16 on Monday & 22 Wednesday. I was hoping it'd be going down. I think I'm still in shock a little, because I'm strangely calm most of the time.

I don't want to monopolize the thread. How is everyone else doing?? Are our pregnant ladies feeling well? Do you get less nervous as the days go by? Are some of you getting ready to BD soon?? I don't recall that anyone is in the 2ww--correct me if I'm wrong.

[MrsCantDecide]

ivory ~ So sorry to hear you are going through this hun. :( *HUGS*

If I had my test results in front of me, I'd tell you what all my doctor tested for, but unfortunately I'm at work and my test results are at home. I know my doc tested for chromosome mutations, thrombophilia, thyroid issues and some other stuff. Took 11 vials of blood total.


*******
My first post m/c-AF is here and luckily on her way out. I keep trying to call my doc to find out about her talking to the endocrinologist, but unfortunately she's at a conference, so the earliest I'll hear from her is Monday. The more I look at my results and read these forums though, I don't think I have a thyroid disease... I just don't have any symptoms except being tired, but that's called staying up too late!! Sheesh! ;) And I don't drink caffiene, so I don't have anything to wake me up!

[AliMC]

Hi! Can I join?

I am a world-class lurker, mostly because I have found the whole TTC process so soulcrushing and haven't wanted to dwell on it overmuch (note: have not been very successful at the not dwelling thing, thus the lurking).

Ages ago, when I was getting married I was a regular poster on the WC. But that seems like a lifetime ago and wedding planning was certainly nowhere near as intimate as TTCing.

Now, after a year of trying naturally (not long by many standards, I know) and two rounds of clomid and IUIs after being diagnosed with PCOS, my husband and I had some success - only to miscarry at eight weeks. Now I feel like I need some community outside of my RL, since most of my RL friend are either not TTCing or have limited experience with infertility issues or m/c. Or I just don't feel like I want to bother them with my pity party.

CC Name: AliMC
Me: Allison/33
DH: E/33
Married since: 10.2003
Off BCP since: 1997
TTC since: 12.2005
Known issues/test results: PCOS, m/c (blighted ovum, no d&c) 3.7.07, paraovarian cyst
Treatrments: Metformin (1000mg daily), clomid (50mg), ovidrel, acupuncture
Current status: On a brand new clomid cycle, waiting to O

My first visit from AF came last thursday, so I am back in the saddle on my third clomid cycle. My RE figures if it works once, it'll work again. We went this morning for a monitoring ultrasound which didn't show much, though since it is only day 9, I guess it isn't anything to be alarmed about.

I have an acupuncture appointment this afternoon and will probably have a more extensive discussion about my progress, or lack thereof, with my acupuncturist. He is an IF specialist and is very chatty, whereas my RE is more of a proceduralist ("here are the drugs, lets measure, okay lets give you an IUI now") and not overly talkative.

Mostly, I feel like I am dealing with a confluence of fears: what if I don't ever get pregnant again? What if I do and I m/c multiple times? What can I be doing that I am not to make this all better? I vacilate from being optimistic to horribly fatalistic.

I know that you've been, or are, where I am at. Which is why I wanted to join you, if I may.

[Lanapoo]

Welcome Allison, I'm very sorry for your loss and hope that you'll be pg again soon.

MCD - I remember being pretty relieved when the first AF post m/c came just because it showed that my body was getting back to normal again. Glad it's on the way out.

Ivory - I felt the same way a lot too, strangely numb or not as upset as I thought I 'should' be. I wondered if I was weird or something because I wasn't breaking down on a daily basis. I pretty much cried in DH's arms the first day I found out and then after that I was like "ok, let's get this m/c done and move on to the next step".

Me - I had some pink tinged cm the night before last and I was concerned (not the sort of thing you want to see after having a m/c) but it was only that one time and I'm not too worried about it now. I never bought anything for the baby the last pregnancy so yesterday I went to Baby Gap and bought a little outfit. I think I want to be a rebel, sort of prove to myself that this time I'm actually going to have a baby instead of losing it. I'm not really allowing myself to consider that anything bad might happen. I don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing that I'm in complete denial but whatever ;)

[AliMC]

Thanks Lanapoo. Sometimes I wish I were pregnant RIGHT NOW! Okay, all the time I wish that.

Can I just concur with Lanapoo that when I found out about my m/c (via ultrasound) I had an afternoon of being just beyond sad, and then my attitude went directly to: Okay, what do we do next?

I have a question about beta numbers and m/c. Mine were quite high (18 days post IUI 554, 23 Days post IUI 5928) and were still rising when they discovered that there was no heartbeat and even at the blood test a week later, before I m/c naturally, they were higher yet. Did anyone else have that experience? If so, did they ever determine if there was a definitive cause for your m/c?

Because I didn't have a d&c, there was no tissue for the RE to have examined.

[LynzeyAHL]

Mostly, I feel like I am dealing with a confluence of fears: what if I don't ever get pregnant again? What if I do and I m/c multiple times? What can I be doing that I am not to make this all better? I vacilate from being optimistic to horribly fatalistic.

Ali it took me 3 before I got where I am now 1 m/c and 2 chemical pgcy then I quit trying and went back on bc and started seeing a chiropractor and found myself with a lil 'surprise'

[ivory]

AliMC - I'm very sorry. I have felt much of what you're describing. All I can say is just let yourself keep feeling all of it. I hope your stay here is short. Concerning your beta question, I didn't have your experience--but that is an interesting question.

Lanapoo - I think it's wonderful that you're allowing yourself to enjoy the pregnancy and it makes me really happy for you.

MrsCantDecide - Thanks. I only had 4 vials drawn so far (ordered by my OB), so it sounds like I should expect more when I go to the RE.


I had drama Friday. I had another HCG draw in the a.m., then was called 2 hours later to rush back--Dr didn't like that my level was still rising. I left work shaking, so now everyone knows something's up (so I'm not looking forward to going back to work). Dr was worried about ectopic, and the u/s showed nothing--it's too early. So she said I need a D&C or a Methotrexate shot. I don't want either, so we said we'd take the weekend to think. But I've started spotting and my temp went down today, so I think I'm off the hook. I'll be so glad if this happens naturally. I go again Monday a.m., and I pray the HCG is on its way down.

[alootikki]

AliMC, I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. I had a D&C, so didn't have very many beta checks. I went back two weeks later, and my levels were 9 -so I didn't bother going back again. Also, AF showed up almost a month later (right on schedule :rolleyes: ), so I had a good idea of what was going on.


Lana, I'm really glad you are so positive - your attitude throughout this process has really been an inspiration to me!

Ivory, geez, like this isn't hard enough without having that kind of drama! I hope it happens naturally for you and you can get to that initial resolution faster. Still thinking of you!

As for me, I'm just waiting to O. Ho hum. The weather was finally gorgeous here this weekend, so it was very relaxing and put me in a great mood. Let's see if the great mood lasts approximately two weeks from now. ;)

[AliMC]

LinzeyAHL - thank you for your supportive and encouraging thoughts. My best friend IRL had four miscarriages (several were c/p, I think) and now has a darling, scrumptious baby boy... so I know that success is ultimately possible. I just can't imagine how she, or you, deal with the emotional aspect of multiple losses. Congratulations on your little surprise! H&H 40 weeks!

Ivory - my betas were still rising before I m/c naturally too. It seemed like a torturously long process, once we knew it was going to happen, and I feel for you being in that position right now. I'm thinking of you today.

alootikki Thanks for your info. AF showed up pretty much right on time for me too, the month after... now I am just back on the IF rollercoaster...

I have an acupuncture appointment this afternoon and an appointment wed morning for an ultrasound to monitor my egg growth... hopefully, we'll be doing an IUI later this week... then I will be biting my nails all through the 2WW... :rolleyes:

We should find out if we were successful, or not, while my sister is visiting. It will be nice to have her here for support either way. My family is on the other side of the country, so they haven't really been able to be a part of this process at all.

[ivory]

Well, I got "good" news yesterday. My HCG went down and I also started bleeding. So, I'm thankful that at least this happened more quickly than last time. With my first m/c, I had a longer wait once we knew the HCG was rising too slowly. And I'm thankful that I was able to m/c naturally both times. Not that any of this is good. I am pretty sad right now. Trying not to second guess and wonder if I should have sought testing sooner--but I know that doesn't make sense after one. I have my 1st RE appt Thursday, so I look forward to that.

[alootikki]

((Hugs)), ivory. Hope you are hanging there. How was the RE appointment?

Ali, good luck with your IUI!

[AliMC]

Alootikki - Thanks! We had a really positive appointment yesterday, apparently I've got a very nice follicle developing and they plan to do the IUI either tomorrow or asturday. We go in tomorrow morning to make the decision... Eek!

Ivory - I think most doctors won't do much testing unless you've had multiple m/c, my RE had the attitude that it's just not that uncommon and, unless I have another one, he's not really concerned that there is an ongoing issue. Plus, with the PCOS my chances of miscarrying are higher anyways.

My point being, that you should give yourself a break. We all second guess what we've done and when... and, as they say, hindsight is 20/20. You need to be kind to yourself!

I also have wished that we'd seen an RE earlier, I feel like we wasted months 'seeing what happens'. Since I do have a condition, all the advice that I got (and still get) from people about 'just relax and it'll happen'.. or 'start trying to adopt and it'll happen' just puts me over the edge.

I get really fiesty these days when I get the 'why aren't you two starting a family yet?' sorts of questions. Grrr... Let me tell you why!:mad:

As for me... as I mentioned, there's a promising looking folly (17mm). I am a little nervous because the RE is thinking of doing the IUI without a trigger shot, which we haven't done before. It seems to me that it makes the timing a lot less precise, so I may be voting for the trigger shot Friday and IUI on Friday AND Saturday... lets get all the little spermies up there that we can! :rolleyes: This process is making me so crass.

[Lanapoo]

Ivory - I hope your appt with the RE went well. Hang in there and try not to second guess yourself.

AliMC - Good luck to you in the next couple of days! I hope your IUI results in a health pregnancy.

Aloo - Are you in the 2ww yet? Thanks so much for your kind words earlier :)

Things are going okay for me. Time is marching on at an unbearably slow pace though. As positive as I feel about this pregnancy, nothing will ease my mind completely as I'm sure you all know. I've been doing something that I probably shouldn't to hedge my bets though. I've read a lot on Ovusoft.com about ladies doing baby aspirin treatment to prevent RPL. Something about thinning the blood just enough so that there are no clots or anything to stop the progress of a growing embryo(and since I have no idea why my baby suddenly stopped growing, I figure this is as good a possibility as any). So I've been taking a baby aspirin a day. I'm not sure if it'll help but from what I've heard, it can't really hurt me either. I'm not advocating this course of action but thought I'd mention it in this thread in case anyone was curious and wanted to research it and perhaps try it for themselves.

[AliMC]

Lanapoo - I am planning to do the same baby aspirin thing, since clotting (from what I have read) is one of the PCOS issues... I have read a lot about baby aspirin and femara (I think). If it can't hurt, then why not do it? I have fingers crossed for you!

And for me... :rolleyes:

[Steve's Sweety]

ivory -
How did your RE appt go?

Lana -
I have thought about doing the baby aspirin too. I was actually going to ask to have testing done to check for the clotting issues when I had my PN b/w done but since the appt didn't go very well I didn't feel comfortable asking. I keep meaning to look into the baby aspirin thing because I'm afraid to just start taking it as I have no idea on dose or type or anything like that. I just got worried because in another group I'm on one of the girls almost had a repeat loss at 19w because of an apparent missed clotting issue and her Dr. told her sometimes they don't show up until age 30 or so and since I hit that last year it just worried me a bit.


Anyway, we had our 1st u/s yesterday and so far things look good as far as we can tell. According to FF I would have been 8W1D and baby measured 8W4D (which happens to be the exact measurement our last baby died at) so I guess that is a milestone since the heart was beating nice and strong at 178 and baby was starting to wiggle around in there a little.
We are SO relieved.

So now that I already posted all that stuff I thought I'd ask for everyone's opinion on this - and please be honest with your feelings.
How does everyone feel about making this a TTC and Pregnancy after a loss group?
If some of you are uncomfortable with that I have no problem at all starting a seperate PG after a loss group, I just didn't want to not include those of you TTC if you wanted to be included. (I will not be offended AT ALL if you would rather have it seperate - in a way I would even rather have it seperate in case anyone is like me and has a bit of a hard time with the pregnancy stuff while still TTC, though it seemed like I didn't have that difficulty when it was our after loss girls).
I always feel kind of awkward posting about pregnancy stuff in here but would love to have a place to do so that I don't have to worry about bringing the group down with my worries because they are in the same place, if that makes sense.

[alootikki]

Tish, congratulations! It must have been such a huge relief to see and hear the heartbeat - that's great! To answer your question, I would be happy making this thread a "Pregnancy & TTC" group - but definitely agree that if anyone feels the least bit funny about it, they should be separate groups. It gives me hope when someone in this thread gets a BFP - I'm thrilled for you girls in a way that I'm not in RL situations.

Personally, I miss hearing from our graduates (Tish and Lana)! I occassionally lurk in the December 2007 to check up on you girls, but would feel weird posting in that thread. I would definitely like to have a place to hear from the graduates and post back thoughts/questions.

Lana, you have intrigued me with the baby aspirin idea. I need to research this too.

Ali - how was the IUI?

Me - I'm 6DPO and absolutely positive I am not pregnant. This was cycle #4 and I am more pissed than sad. I mean - COME ON. Every freaking month, we have massive amounts of perfectly timed BD - what is the problem?! The reason I am so pessimistic is that when I got pregnant, I had a lot of CM after O (it was my one tip-off). This time - dry as a bone, again. (Sorry if TMI!). I'm just feeling a little frustrated. Everyone around me gets pregnant either not even trying, having sex once, etc. Boo hoo.

DH actually had an initial consult with a urologist, who did an external exam and told him that he was totally normal. I still want him to do a S/A to rule out any problems - I don't really suspect any, since we got pg before, but still.

Do you think that if it doesn't work out on this next cycle (#5), I can ask my dr. to move to IUI? I mean, if I know I'm ovulating, and DH's sperm is normal, maybe it's a problem with just getting the sperm to the right place? Maybe my EWCM is not sufficient? I have a feeling my dr. will just recommend patience, but I am running out of that.

[AliMC]

Steve'sSweety - Thanks for your concern, but hearing about someone else's success makes me more optimistic! I am so happy for you that you feel you've passed a real milestone.

Alootikki - I was surethat I wasn't pg when I was (before m/c) and that was with an IUI, so you never know - don't throw in the towel just yet! Are you on fertility meds at all? You may have a sperm-unfriendly cervix or cm... some people do and you can have it tested. Personally, I like having the IUIs, because I know definitively that I have O'd and that all his boys have been placed exactly where they need to be... on the other hand it is absolutely not romantic in any way shape or form.

As for me... we had a trigger shot friday and an IUI on both Saturday and sunday - apparently I O'd overnight on saturday. I always am very pessimistic about the timing (I think that spun sperm don't live as long as 'regular' sperm). My Re seemed optimistic though, so I guess I am in the 2WW!

In the meantime, I have acupuncture and lots of visualizing to do. A tip from my acupuncturist was to eat pineapple during the implantation phase, something about the enzymes improving your receptiveness... it worked last time, so I guess I'll be eating pineapple for the next week or so!

[AliMC]

Alootikki - Also... have you tried drinking Grapefruit juice? I can't anymore, because it interferes with some meds, but before when I tried it (a glass a day) I swear to god, it really upped the CM production.

[Lanapoo]

Tish - I also feel that there is a lack of a thread for those of us who are pregnant after a loss. There is pregnant after infertility, pregnant after age 35, plus size pregnant, but nothing for us. I would love to stay here and root on every one TTC if they still would like us around. There are some things/feelings that I feel I can't be completely open about in the December thread.

How wonderful about your u/s. Sounds like everything is going really well.

Aloo - I'm so sorry you're feeling this frustration. I was feeling the same way the first time we TTC since it took us 8 cycles. You might want to try Preseed if you think your CM is lacking. It's a sperm friendly lube. It's kind of pricey but I've heard lots of good things about it.

AliMC - Yay for being in the 2ww! Sounds like things went well with the IUI. Is the spun sperm the same thing as a wash where the bad sperm are washed out of the mix so that only healthy ones are put in?

Baby aspirin - The traditional dose is 1 (81mg) baby aspirin daily. I'm not sure when I'll stop taking it. I've heard of women taking it just through the 1st trimester and women taking it up to a few weeks before they deliver (since you don't want thin blood when you deliver).

Me - Things are going well. I've been feeling nauseous for the past few days, which I think is a good thing since I never felt that way the first time. Anything different is a good sign for me, as silly as that may be. I'll be seeing my Endocrinologist tomorrow morning for a check up on my thyroid (I have Graves Disease which is a form of Hyperthyroidism) since thyroids can act up especially in the beginning and end of pregnancy. I have a slight hand tremor (a symptom) so I'm slightly worried that things might be gearing up. Hopefully not though as the drugs that I'd have to take are the type that pass through to the placenta. I'll let you all know how it goes...

[Annette]

Lana-Glad to hear things are going well. Hope things go well at the doctor.

Ali-Crossing fingers for you! Hope it's your month!

alootiki-Thats frustrating... Have you tried Pre-Seed? I'm convinced that it helped me get pg.

Tish-Glad to hear you were able to see the baby on the u/s. As far as your question goes, I think I'd prefer separate threads.

[LynzeyAHL]

Lana I couldn't agree more - everyone is so excited about their u/s appointments. mine is Thursday and I'm SCARED absolutely Sh!tless that I'm going to get in there and they won't be able to see anything like last time. Its so stinking hard to be 'excited' right now when I'm so nervous b/c of 'last time.' I'm fighting tooth and nail to try and be optimistic about 'this time' but dang it prego hormones do not make it easy.

I swore that when I finally got pregnant I wouldn't complain and I've really been doing a good job of it but I really am not looking forward to this appointment I'd like to fast forward to the part where I have a belly and baby I can feel moving.

[Annette]

lynzey-how far along are you? Keep us posted on your appt. I would feel scared too.

[LynzeyAHL]

lynzey-how far along are you? Keep us posted on your appt. I would feel scared too.

8 weeks tomorrow so definitely should be 'something' for them to see. I'll be back tomorrow with updates.

You gals are awesome! No one else really 'gets it' unless they've been there.

THANK.YOU.SO.MUCH! :o

[alootikki]

Lynzey, good luck tomorrow! Totally understand why it feels nervewracking - sending you good thoughts!

Lana, hope you have a good appt and don't need to take any drugs. I think the nausea sounds like a great symptom! :)

Thanks everyone for the CM tips - I am frustrated bc I am already using all of them! :o I have been drinking grapefruit juice, green tea, and sometimes use FemGlide (same thing as PreSeed) too. Last cycle I used Robitussen once, but for some reason that made me a little freaked out (you're not supposed to use it if you already have EWCM). I think the problem is that once the BD-fest starts, it's really hard for me to figure out if it's EWCM or semen.

I think I will make an appt with my ob-gyn just to check in and get some questions answered.

[Steve's Sweety]

aloo -
Thanks.
I know what you mean about someone in this group getting a BFP because I feel the same way, though when I was TTC there was still some twinge there.

It is nice to know I am missed here. I am going to try to keep coming around from time to time but also I will go ahead and start another group and hope that you get to officially join it soon but in the meantime you (and anyone else here who wants to) are totally welcome there.

BTW, I had none of the symptoms this time that I did when I was PG with our Angel Baby. In fact I really didn't have any symptoms at all.
It took us until cycle #5 so if this isn't it for you (though I sure hope it is)! then maybe next will be.

Ali -
Welcome to the 2WW and I hope your optimism is a sign of great things to come!

Lana -
Exactly!
I am going to go ahead and start a new thread and I plan to mention those very things.

Annette -
Thanks for your honesty.
I will go ahead and start a seperate thread and hope like heck that you get to officially join it soon but in the meantime if you feel at all like you want to come by you are completely welcome there. I will be thinking of you no matter what.

Lynzey -
Exactly why I want a thread for "us".

---------------

Ok ladies, so I am going to go ahead and start a new thread for graduates.

I hope like crazy that all of you join it very VERY soon. In the meantime, as I said, if you feel like it you are welcome to come over and hang out with us.
I will always have a special place in my heart for you ladies and will try to come back and check on you from time to time.
I wish the very best to each and every one of you and send loads of fresh, extra sticky http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y61/Natitia/Blinkies/Blinkies%20-%20TTC/pouringdust.gif

[MrsCantDecide]

AliMC ~ Sorry you had to join us here, but welcome! I think the timings of the IUIs sound perfect! Good Luck!

Lana ~ Good for you going out and buying the baby an outfit! You rebel you! ;)

I will be one of those doing the baby aspirin for the RPL. That's what My doctor wanted for me to do, along with what I'm going to guess is Folgard (she called them "special vitamins" and I didn't think to ask at the time).

Steve's Sweety ~ I hope you guys don't mind if I come talk to you guys over in your new group. I do like hearing of the people that have successful pregnancies after a loss. But I can see how it's put people off if they were in the middle of a loss... they probably just aren't ready to hear about other people being pregnant yet.

Yeay for the 1st milestone reached though!

alootikki ~ Hey, it doesn't hurt to ask your doctor about an IUI, does it? Worst he can do is say No. :)

LynzeyAHL ~ Sorry it's so hard to get excited about your u/s appt. :(

Good Luck at the appointment!

*******
Me ~ Doctor finally called back, she had trouble getting ahold of the Endocrinologist. She said that the numbers from my thyroid tests were just a little bit off and she's not too worried, but she said that it could also be one of the causes of my m/cs as well. But she said my TSH was completely normal, which was good.

I have an appt with the Endocrinologist on 5/14 at 10:15, and the receptionist said that I was lucky that she just got a cancellation otherwise, I couldn't get in until July! The Endo and my OB are going to work together on figuring out a plan of action.

I think I O'ed yesterday based on my O-pains, and my CM. Thank Goodness I jumped Hubby yesterday morning!

[Lanapoo]

MCD - Those endos are busy doctors aren't they? There really need to be more of them, especially with the diabetes epidemic in this country. I hope that you get good news from the endo. I'd think that your thyroid would have to be really out of control for it to cause the m/c though. If your numbers are just a little bit off, I'd be thinking that the thyroid issues weren't the cause. But I'm no doctor, so your endo may tell you differently.

Me - Speaking of endos. I went to see mine yesterday. It had to be a record for lack of waiting time, usually I'm there for hours :p. Anyways, my bloodwork came back great and all my numbers are normal. She says she'd be surprised if my thyroid started to act up after being fine with no meds for the last 4 years. But I'll be going back more frequently throughout the pg to make sure things aren't going crazy. Especially during the 3rd tri apparently, she says that's when a lot of thyroids start acting up again.

[AliMC]

LynzeyAHL - What is happening? How was the doctor?

alootikki - Let us know if your doctor has any brilliant CM suggestions, I may be having IUIs, but we still... ummm... BD. Ya know?

Steve's Sweety - I hope to join you in your new thread! I will look out for it... Thanks for the welcome.

MrsCantDecide - Thanks for the welcome, as well! I guess we are in the 2WW together, eh? Eek! I know several people with thyroid issues and I know that it is a total PITA, both getting into doctors and dealing with the effects. Good luck with the endo.

Lanapoo - Isn't it just so fun hanging out at a doctor's office for hours on end... especially after you've already read all of their stale magazines? I love that part of the ART process the best! (Absolutely. Dripping. Sarcasm.) But I am so glad to read that everything is normal for you. I guess it's worth the wait.

Me - I feel twing-ey and almost started crying when they ran a news story about the Kentucky Derby horse who only cost $9K. But that's the norm a week before AF, so... I'm (trying) not to read much into it. My DH will be skiing this weekend, but I am bowing out since, if there is something there, I would like it to have as much of a chance of stickiness as possible... and tumbling down black diamonds probably wouldn't help, right?

I've also had a couple of event where people have been looking at me sideways because I wasn't drinking... luckily I use the meds for PCOS as an excuse - it has to be good for something.

[LynzeyAHL]

Sorry Ali I posted over in the other thread...

WE HAVE A HEARTBEAT! but the dr did the measuring on U/S and wasn't very sure of his skills so he wants me to come back in 2 weeks for another with the tech like I'm gonna be mad about that :)

So far barring any major complications it looks like my 'oops' is good and sticky HOORAY! :o

which leads me to thought that keeps popping into my head.

HOLY CRAP I'm havin a baby! :eek:

[alootikki]

Lynzey, congratulations!! It must have been so wonderful to see the heartbeat!

Ali, when are you testing?

Lana, great news about your endo appointment! It must be a relief to get the all-clear.

MrsCantDecide, are you officially in the 2ww yet?

Well, I am done with this cycle. I really just *knew* I wasn't preggo this time, and AF should be here tomorrow - I woke up with my usual pre-AF migraine. At least the AF symptoms are like clockwork :rolleyes: On to cycle #5...I know it was lucky for Tish and I hope to follow in her footsteps!

[Annette]

lynzey-Thats awesome that you saw the h/b!!

alootiki-Looks like we are cycle buddies. I'm expecting AF tomorrow too.

[AliMC]

LynzeyAHL - Congratulations on the heatbeat! I long to get to that point, as I am sure you can imagine...

alootikki - I think we will test this weekend, If AF isn't here. Since we're on a medicated cycle, I can be really sure about when testing is a good idea. Frankly, I have spent so much money on BFNs that I am willing to wait. Plus I ama chicken. Especially with Mother's Day this weekend. Sorry to hear that AF is so imminent... same goes for Annette!

Me - I am having a lot of acupuncture... and my funny acupuncturist seems very optimistic. He's not the type to be like 'you are pregnant!' He just says 'your pulse is good!'

I am having a bit of a hard time thinking about Mother's Day. Which my DH doesn't seem to get. As sweet as he is, he's like 'you wouldn't have been a mother yet anyways...' Thanks. Very sensitive honey... Also, knowing that we may be testing this weekend just makes me so very nervous.

[alootikki]

Ali - I was so excited when I read your post! Apparently if the acu-dr says "your pulse is good"..that's an indication that you're preggo! I really hope this is it for you...sorry if I am stirring the pot too early :o I'll be thinking of you this weekend...and I know what you mean about Mother's Day.

Annette - hey cycle buddy :) If I remember right, this is your first TTC cycle now, right? How are you feeling?


Me - well, I have made an acupunture appointment for next week! This is huge - but after reading the thread over in Family Planning and Ali's experience, I figure it can't hurt, right? I'm a little nervous though. And PO-ed at my OB. :mad: I just vented about it in Loss Support. Basically, I called on Tuesday to get her opinion/thoughts on acupuncture, and it took 48 hours for her nurse to call me back. With the whole m/c experience, I just need a little more responsiveness and interaction. I really loved her in person - but the lack of response steams me. Am I being unreasonable?

[AliMC]

alootikki - Thanks for your positive vibes, I am trying not to get my hopes up too high, but he has been SO positive that it is hard not too...

I have really enjoyed having the acupuncture and I think it has been a really helpful part of the process. It's so relaxing - it really forces you to take a moment to yourself, which I have found really hard to do in my day-to-day life. Also, my acupuncturist is far more available to me than my RE and will answer all my wingnut questions (he is a doctor, not just a liscensed acupuncturist and herbalist.)

I have had similar experiences with my RE's office since my miscarriage and actually during my miscarriage I felt that his office staff was les than empathetic. They were pretty nonchalant towards me. This is, of course, part of the reason why I can't wait for a sticky BFP. A very small part...

Me - Twingy and tired. Could be BFP... or could just be PMS. I'll know this weekend! My sister is visiting and has no idea what is going on and my DH's mother is coming for Mothers Day (Egh to the day.. not to her) so if it is a BFP We'll have lots of family to share it with!

[MrsCantDecide]

aloo - I think you're being reasonable, there is absolutely no reason why you can't get some response from your doctor's office, even if it's just a nurse calling you back!

Ali - I'm going to take 'your pulse is good' as a good sign! hee hee

As far as seeing 2 doctors, I'm not too worried, because they seem to know each other pretty well, and they were exchanging info even before I called to make the appt. :)

Lynzey - Congrats on the heartbeat!! That's very exciting!

Lana - That's great on not having to wait to see your Endo! I'm scared to schedule anything else work-wise for Monday because I have NO idea how long it'll take to see the doctor!

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So yeah, I'm in the 2WW... technically for me probably the 3 day wait though... I'm 8 DPO and if AF isn't here, I'll test on Sunday. Not terribly optomistic though, I think I got a yeast infection from the round of antibiotics I took for strep throat. I'm sure that doesn't help the whole TTC situation. :p

Either way, if I don't get AF this weekend, I'll test on Sunday. I had a massage this weekend and told the therapist to give me "get pregnant vibes" ha ha. She knew I was pg last time before I even knew.

I also started weight watchers and exercising in order to keep away from the obsession of trying to get pg.

[MrsCantDecide]

Hey Ali, how many DPO are you?

[Annette]

MCD-Hope you get a BFP.

Ali-When do you test?

Alootiki-Sorry that your doctor's office is frustrating you. It's annoying when you leave messages and they don't call back. I hate that I can't call the doctor directly or send email. Plus I hate calling from work since I sit in a cube and the whole world can hear my conversation.

me: AF arrived. Well, we were going to TTC this month, but DH will be away when I ovulate, so looks like I'll be starting in June. I hate that my cycles are sooo long (34 days), so the wait feels like an eternity.

[Lanapoo]

Annette - Sorry about AF :(

MCD - I really got into Weight Watchers during the three months it took from the m/c to when I got pg again. I lost 14 pounds and it was a great distraction from TTC since I was really into losing weight and getting healthy.

Ali - I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you for this weekend.

Aloo - I think you are being reasonable. I would expect more of a response after having an m/c. I hope you like your accupuncture appointment!

Me - Same ol' same ol'. I'm 8 weeks tomorrow and still haven't seen the doctor. I go in on the 21st. Hopefully she'll be able to do a doppler or something for my reassurance but I have a feeling that this time things are going okay in there.

[LynzeyAHL]

Ali - I was so excited when I read your post! Apparently if the acu-dr says "your pulse is good"..that's an indication that you're preggo! I really hope this is it for you...sorry if I am stirring the pot too early :o I'll be thinking of you this weekend...and I know what you mean about Mother's Day.

Annette - hey cycle buddy :) If I remember right, this is your first TTC cycle now, right? How are you feeling?


Me - well, I have made an acupunture appointment for next week! This is huge - but after reading the thread over in Family Planning and Ali's experience, I figure it can't hurt, right? I'm a little nervous though. And PO-ed at my OB. :mad: I just vented about it in Loss Support. Basically, I called on Tuesday to get her opinion/thoughts on acupuncture, and it took 48 hours for her nurse to call me back. With the whole m/c experience, I just need a little more responsiveness and interaction. I really loved her in person - but the lack of response steams me. Am I being unreasonable?

ABSOLUTELY NOT - I LOVED my former o/b but his med assistant (the one that is supposed to return phone calls for the doc) was a BITCH! no bedside manner and they were HORRIBLE about following up. The last straw was after MC and they didn't call me back for 4 days after I called and left msg every day about my lab results. They had wanted me to go in for one more blood test and I basically found a new DR stat. My decision was confirmed when she called 2 months after I was supposed to have the test and said well I'm just calling to follow up b/c I see you never had this test and dr wants the results. I was like well since your office is so good about calling people back I changed drs. I would have requested my chart but since I can't get anyone to call me back I didn't waste my time. She was like *hummph* I see and hung up no bye no nothing..... GOOD RIDDENCE!

[alootikki]

Thanks, chicas! My dr. finally called me back last night, and apologized for the delay (I guess the nurse told her I was not so happy). We had a good conversation, and interestingly - she said that I should make an appointment with the REs she works with. She is all for IUI as a next step, and said there are no minimum times that you have to "try" for before moving to that. It typically takes 3 months to get an RE appointment (she said "the worst thing you'l do is cancel the appt because you're pregnant!").

So - I am calling today to try to get an appt by the end of the summer. Not sure I am psychologically ready for it quite yet, but making the appointment helps me feel like I have a plan.

[AliMC]

alootikki- It takes three months to get an RE appointment? OMG, that would drive me crazy. We got in to see ours two weeks after I called for an appointment and, I think, the only reason it was delayed that long was because we were going on vacation. Of course both DH and I (my 35-year-old sisterwas conceived via clomid and IUIs!) have a history of IF in our families, so maybe that part of our background helped.

But lets hope you have to cancel that appointment because your pregnant!

LynzeyAHL - Bad Doctor! Very bad Doctor! It sound more like the experiences I had with wedding vendors ('Oh, I was supposed to send you an estimate two months ago and now you've booked someone else? Oops!')
than how a Doctor's office should behave. Mine might be callous, but at least they follow up... I am so glad that you moved on to someone new.

MrsCantDecide- today I am 13DPO... eek! Which leads to Annette's question.... I will be testing tomorrow. We are going out to our weekend house tonight and I will test there... no internet access, so I will incommunicado for at least a couple of days. Thanks Lanapoo!

My feelings are very confused. On the one hand, I will be very happy if I am pregnant again but - as many of you may feel - I am so very afraid of miscarrying again. I don't really have any pregnancy symptoms aside from constant hunger and weepy-ness. So... I don't know what to think. My mom said that she never had morning sickness and felt fantastic during both of her pregnancies, so maybe that's just hereditary?

Light me a candle ladies, I will be thinking of you!

[AliMC]

Well, ladies I am not pregnant. AF came late friday night.

I can only imagine that this weekend was as hard for all of you as it was for me. We had a big family event with lots of babies and small children Saturday night... where my DH's cousins, who procreate regularly and apparently without complication, kept asking 'so are you guys thinking about having kids?'

Ugh.

By Sunday, I could hardly say the words 'Happy Mother's Day' without turning into a sobbing mess. My mother and stepmother got the briefest Mother's Day calls in history and all throughout brunch with my MIL I had to keep my sunglasses on and a big fake smile plastered on my face. Otherwise, my poor DH had to contend with me randomly breaking down sobbing basically all weekend.

We had an RE appointment this morning to start a new cycle, and I honestly was just dreading it. Right now I just feel so very defeated and awful. We were catching up on the last two episodes of Grey's Anatomy last night and the whole Addison Infertility storyline was a little too familiar.

I'm only 33 for God's sake! Why does it have to seem so impossible?

Anyways, that's my pity party for monday morning. I hope you all survived the weekend. I was certainly thinking of you.

[Lanapoo]

I'm so sorry Ali! It sounds like you had a really rough weekend on top of having to deal with AF :(

[alootikki]

Oh no, Ali - I am so sorry! :( I was really thinking this was it for you...that just sucks. I also had family events this weekend where we got a lot of "So, any NEWS for us??" and other stupid comments. It just makes a hard situation worse - hang in there, thinking about you!

[MrsCantDecide]

Ali ~ I'm so sorry AF showed for you! I was hoping we'd be buddies!

I'm feeling the exact same way as Ali posted... happy to be pg, but super nervous about miscarrying.


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So I had my Endo appt today. He said I have Chronic Thyroiditis and because I got my BFP this morning with my CBE Digital, he's going to start me on drugs tomorrow so that we can hopefully keep me from miscarrying again. I so hope it works!!

I am so nervous right now, I started the baby aspirins on Saturday night (I just KNEW I was pg), and I got my prescription for Folgard this morning and tomorrow I will be taking Syntheroid as well. Stick baby Stick!

[alootikki]

OMG, congratulations MrsCantDecide!!! That is great news! Sending sticky vibes your way :D

[Annette]

MCD-I had no idea you were pg! Congratulations! Sending more sticky vibes!

Ali-I'm sorry you had a rough weekend. Sorry about AF too.

I hate getting asked the "When are you going to have kids from ppl who don't know about my m/c." It bothers me a lot more now than it did before the m/c.

[AliMC]

MCD - Congratulations - I certainly wish we could have been pg buddies, but I guess just not this time. Sticky vibes to you though!

Everyone - Thanks for comiserating over my crap weekend. I am sure that it was hard for all of you too.

Monday was awful. My sister suggested that I write a letter to my mom telling her how much she meant to me as a mother, since I wasn't there for Mother's Day. While I was getting all worked up, just thinking about that, one of my co-workers walked in and asked me how my weekend was. I totally started weeping at my desk. I felt so bad for him! He was like "should I go now?" and I was like "yes, please!"

Very professional, don't you think?

In some ways it seems like being back in the IF grind (medicate, sonogram, inseminate, rinse and repeat!) is making the thought of the miscarriage that much harder.

I went to acupuncture last night and my Doctor was really shocked that I wasn't pregnant, but still very optimistic for me. He always says how 'young' I am. 33 doesn't feel all that young, when the weeks and months and years seem to be slipping past you.

Anyways, I am on cycle day 6, on my third day of clomid, and we'll have an u/s to check follie growth next wednesday. I also have to have a cavity filled that day, so I am sure it will be a fun day all around.

It will be interesting to see which side I am ovulating on. When I got pg, I ovulated on the left, but last month I ovulated on the right - where I have a 2cm para-ovarian cyst... which may or may not be blocking the tube.

I am feeling quite defeated by the whole process. ugh.

[AliMC]

Ooh, things are so quiet around here!

I am working very hard on my attitude this week. I had acupuncture yesterday and it was pretty intense. Sometimes I go and the experience seems mild, but then sometimes I go and I just feel like all sorts of crazy things are happening in my body.

That could just be the clomid speaking though.

Tomorrow morning we go for an ultrasound to look at any follies I might be developing, and they will probably decide then when we will do the IUI. I just got off the phone - ordering my trigger shot (Ovidrel)...

So hopefully things are progressing down there and I am ovulating on the left and not the right. Does that sound crazy to you? It does to me.

I had a looney dream the other night, that I was out shopping for some really cute dresses and, when I was being rung up, the sales woman asked me if I wanted to take anything else. I said 'hmmmm...' and pointed to a perfect little baby sitting on the shelf. I took it home and it turns out that the baby is the devil. I mean, a nice little adorable devil but nonetheless...

Crazy, right?

Also, probably the clomid speaking.

How are you all doing? What's going on?

Oh, and a question: Were you tested for anything (clotting disorder, etc) after your m/c? I wanted to talk to our Doctor about being tested, but I know that sometimes people won't do it unless there have been multiple m/cs - which I would (of course) prefer to avoid.

[Annette]

Were you tested for anything (clotting disorder, etc) after your m/c?

No. My doctor does testing after 2 or more m/cs. I betcha it's the insurance talking on that one. It sucks that we have to suffer multiple times to get answers.

Ali-Hope you catch that eggie!

Not much going on. Keeping busy with work.

[LynzeyAHL]

I'm lurking ladies! just been so busy! I finally got a little energy back and I'm trying to crack out some stuff on my honey do list around the house as far as home improvement projects b/c I'm having a house full of people in 7 weeks!

[ivory]

I'm so out of touch with everyone, that I keep delaying returning even more because there's so much to catch up on. So, I'm going to jump back in. Since the 4/23 m/c, life's been crazy with balancing work & medical stuff. I've had so many tests and appts, not to mention struggling emotionally. All tests were negative, including an HSG, so my RE put me on baby aspirin & progesterone, and suggested acupuncture. Acupuncture is great. RE also said we could try again, since this last m/c was so early. I Oed on day 19, and today I got a BFP. I can't believe I'm pg a 3rd time. I'm trying not to let the fear come back in.

I've been thinking of everyone, and I'm so sorry that some of you have had a rough time of it lately. That sucks so much.


Oh, and a question: Were you tested for anything (clotting disorder, etc) after your m/c? I wanted to talk to our Doctor about being tested, but I know that sometimes people won't do it unless there have been multiple m/cs - which I would (of course) prefer to avoid.
Ali - I had testing after 2 m/c--I told them I was not waiting for 3. One argument I've seen for not testing after 1 is that in the time it takes to do tests, if it delays ttc, you could have conceived a healthy pregnancy in that time. But for blood tests, it wouldn't delay ttc anyway. It never hurts to ask your RE. Actually, I would think that for you, since you have a diagnosis that makes you have medications/procedures to achieve pregnancy, it would justify testing now even more--know what I mean? I don't know if the REs think that way, but it makes sense to me. Were you going to try baby aspirin anyway? I started it as soon as my 4/23 m/c was over.

BTW, regarding an earlier post of yours, I am the same age as you (well, will be in 3 weeks), and I gather we're both trying for our first. I so know what you mean about the docs saying that 33 is young, but that it doesn't feel like it right now. Not when you just want to get going, to start your parent years now.

[MrsCantDecide]

Guess I'm back.... miscarriage #3....

Cautious Congrats Ivory!

m/c testing ~ My doctor started testing for me when she found out I was on m/c #2. It was all bloodwork, they tested me for thyroid, antibodies, clotting disorders, vitamin defiencies, some genetic disorders.... 11 tests total I believe.

The one thing that I can't seem to get them to test for is progesterone which is driving me batty. They'll test it while I'm pg, but not before. My bloodwork with this last pg at 16 DPO came back with beta of 12 and progesterone of .8.

The only thing that I can think of is that they told me to start all of the drugs when I got pg because they didn't yet have a plan of action and I don't think they had time to work. (they wanted me to see the endo before they came up with a plan of action and I saw him the day of my BFP.) So they told me to keep going with all of the drugs that I was on, and I know the synthroid takes 2 weeks to really take effect. I'm keeping my appts, I have follow-up bloodwork on 5/29 for the endo, and an endo appt on 6/4, and an OB appt on 6/7. Hopefully they'll have a plan of action for me, but the nurse also mentioned sending me to either a high-risk doc or an infertility specialist.

[ivory]

Oh, MrsCantDecide, I am so sorry. How are you doing right now? It sounds like you're able to keep yourself busy with working toward the fuure, since you've got some complex issues at work. I'm glad to hear you're still getting good care and you'll have an even better chance next time. But for now, this sucks that you have to go through this again. It's not fair.

[AliMC]

MrsCantDecide - I am so sorry to see you back here! I hope that you're only back visiting for a short while. {{{{{Hugs}}}}}.

Ivory - Congratulations on your BFP, I hope hope hope that it is sticky.

I love the acupuncture! It is, literally the only part of this process that I look forward to now. Since we do IUIs, it's not the BD-ing, in fact we have to abstain. :rolleyes: I am taking the baby aspirin - as I was last month. I had a less crampy period than I can ever remember having, so at least that is one plus of taking it.

Thanks for your empathy about the age thing, too. I keep thinking how old I will be with my first and - considering how long this seems to be taking - how desperate the situation will be for a second. Am I wildly optimistic to think that there will even be a first?

LynzeyAHL- You are so very virtuous getting all that housework done!

Annette - I basically got the same answer from my Doctor's office. It's sad how much control the insurance industry has over my reproductive prospects.

Everyone - thanks for your answers about the testing, it seems sad that you should have to suffer multiple losses before they really do any diagnostic work.

Me - We had our ultrasound this morning and I am apparently growing a very nice follie on the right - which is happy in that it exists, but a bummer in terms of where it is located, since I have a cyst on that side that I am afraid may be interfering. In any case, they want me to take my ovidrel tonight and have IUIs on Thursday and Friday.

I'm not feeling super optimistic - since it's on the right and I feel generally 'egh' about the whole grind at the moment. DH is trying to get me to buck up though, which is sweet.

Last night I went to the gym to climb (I've been rock climbing for 9 years and go to a gym with a special climbing wall), thinking that that would be a good place to get my mind off of the TTC treadmill, and to avoid the visibly pregnant women that seem to pop up wherever I go. And, what do you know, I saw no fewer than four while I was there. It's like an epidemic around here.

[alootikki]

I'm here! I've been in kind of a posting funk lately, sorry to be MIA.

ivory, good to see you back and congrats! Sticky, sticky sticky!! :D

MrsCantDecide, :( . I am so sorry. It sounds like your drs are covering all the bases and have a good plan of action - but I know this still sucks.

Ali, I totally know what you mean about hating the effort to stay positive! It's just hard to keep going through this process again and again. I hope that cyst minds its own business and stays the hell away from your follie :) Good luck with the IUIs tomorrow!

Annette, how are you doing? My dr. doesn't test for clotting disorders or anything, but I did ask her to test my thyroid function - it came back normal.

Me - on CD15, don't think I've O-ed yet. My big news is that I started acupuncture last week! Today will be my 3rd appointment. I may post these questions in the Acu thread as well, but I'm not "loving" it like everyone else seems to. My dr. has gotten rave reviews on another message board, but seems a little brusque and not really into answering questions. He didn't give me any advice on changing diet (just the gross herbs which I take twice a day). The herbs don't seem to have helped with the CM, and his treatment on CD13 was supposed to make me O sooner and I still haven't (usually I O on CD13-16). Also, it can sting when the needles are put in. Am I expecting too much - maybe I am just a high-maintenance patient!

[ivory]

alootikki - That's great you've started acupuncture. I'm sorry it's not living up for you yet. Given what you're saying, I'd find someone new. For people in our shoes, one of the things we need acupuncture for is to combat the anxiety of ttc and pregnancy. If your guy doesn't make you feel comfortable and relaxed, that's counter-productive. I like my acupuncturist, in part, for her gentle nature and the way she listens a ton and helps me feel calm. You don't need this to be like a regular doctor appt.

AliMC - I didn't realize the baby aspirin could lessen cramps. In that case, maybe I'll take it the rest of my life. Good luck the next 2 days. Don't beat yourself up for not feeling positive--you do what you can. Nice that DH can just be positive for both of you.



Thanks for your (cautious) congrats ladies. DH is in Asia on business for 3 weeks (2 to go)--I had him on the phone with me when I tested--so it's hard to stay distracted from the inevitable fear. I am thinking happy thoughts a lot of the time though.

[AliMC]

What would you do? Not that I am really asking for medical advice here... just opinions...

After I wrote my post this morning, I realized that my RE never mentioned my para-ovarian cyst when he was looking for follies this morning and now I am concerned that he confused the cyst for a follie - since it's very close to where a follie would develop AND the measurement was exactly the same as what he's given in the past for the cyst.

So... I called his nurse to check in and double check what he saw. I mean, I'm supposed to do my trigger shot tonight, but if there isn't really a viable follie - just a csyt - then I have wasted a whole cycle. I am waiting to hear back from them now.

Do you think I am being crazy, second-guessing them?

[ivory]

AliMC - No, not crazy. I have called to second-guess stuff like that before. Even if you're wrong, that's really the doctor's fault for not giving enough info. Like, if he saw both, it would be nice if he had said. Don't feel bad about calling--just think of it as seeking more info and a better explantion. Are you waiting for a call-back now?

[AliMC]

Ivory - I am STILL waiting to hear back from them!

[MrsCantDecide]

ivory ~ I am doing fine actually. I was heartbroken on Friday (when my pg test came out practically negative) after I got the beta of 12 back. But I have a great support system, so that helped a ton. I think the worst of it was that I really wanted to be pg again before I turned 30, and that happens next month.

AliMC ~ I hope no one on this thread is here for long!! (Or much longer!) Thanks!

Oh and I would do what you do and call the office to make sure!

alootikki ~ I hope they are covering all the bases, but I guess I'll find out 6/7. :)

[Annette]

Ivory-Congrats!! Hope this one's a sticky.

MCD-I hope they test your progesterone and that you get answers soon. I hear ya on getting pg before turning 30. I have until sept.

Ali-You are not crazy. I would have done the same thing. Did you get an answer back yet? I PM'd you. I love rock climbing too!

alootiki-I hope the acu works for you. I'm doing fine.

me: Not much going on here. Been busy at work so its keeping me distracted.

[alootikki]

Ali, did the nurse call you back?? What happened? So frustrating that you had to wait...I hope it was good news either way.

Me - I think today is O-day! We bd-ed this morning, but DH is traveling tonight. I am trying to be laid back and not worry that we need 10 more bd sessions today :cool: My acu appt yesterday was actually better - he put me more at ease and answered my some of my concerns.

[AliMC]

Alootikki - They FINALLY Called me back and we had a big back and forth about what the Doctor saw and I finaly convinced them to let me come in for another ultrasound before I took the Ovidrel. Luckily, my doctor had a sense of humor about me second-guessing him.

He did the scan (the quickest in history I reckon) and we saw both the follie (now 22) and the cyst (egh - still there). So I took the Ovidrel last night (in the bathroom of a restaurant...) and had one IUI this morning and will have another tomorrow. Tomorrow afternoon I also go for some acupuncture.

Looks like we will be cycle buddies! We can hang out in the 2WW together m'kay?

Did I mention that I also had to have a cavity filled yesterday? This is my week to be completely irresponsible and out of the office for doctors appointments. I feel mildly guilty but... oh well!:rolleyes:

Annette - I PMed you back! Sorry if I rambled.

MrsCantDecide - I am glad that you have good support, that is so key in this whole process. I don't know how people keep it together otherwise. This whole process just seems like dissapointment on top of dissapointment.

Ivory - Thanks for your concern yesterday, I was feeling like a bit of a wingnut. I actually told the nurse at the RE's office - "I am your crazy patient for the day, I guess!"

We had the first IUI this morning - DH's numbers were good - despite significant beer consumption last night. I told him that he has to be virtuous today because we have one more IUI tomorrow and I want lots of strong swimmers for that one for sure! I might also make him BD after work today. He has good enough numbers for that and I am not as zen as you Alootikki!

[alootikki]

AliMC, I am laughing at your post because I am so NOT zen! :) I'm trying to be...but now I want to call DH and beg him to meet me for a quickie before he leaves. I can picture it now - "But Ali and HER DH are getting another session in!" - he'll think I'm nuts! It's good to have a cycle buddy through this! Good luck with the IUI today!

[ivory]

Annette - Thanks. Are you still waiting until June to try again? And did you have your wisdom teeth out? How was it? I had mine done a few years ago--not fun.

alootikki - This made me laugh: "But Ali and HER DH are getting another session in!" I don't think that would even surprise my DH anymore. And that's great you had a better acu appt this time. I hope having a session right before O will be a good thing for you.

AliMC - Awesome--good for you for being firm and proactive. You must be proud of yourself that could move forward confidently with the IUI.


MCD - Glad you're doing pretty well. I have a b-day next month too, and I too was having that feeling of not wanting another b-day to pass. Make sure you have a great time with turning 30, though. When I truned 30, I made sure it was all about me. You definitely deserve to have fun with it.


Me: I had another HCG draw today and it has doubled (73.7 to 192.6). I can't believe it--my first good news. I'm only 13 dpo, so who knows what will happen, but so far things are better than the last 2. Again, I am on baby aspirin and progesterone. My progesterone is a small does, one 50mg suppository a day, but I think it may be the difference. My level was 35.5 at a point where it was 12.6 last time.

[Annette]

Ivory-Well, we were planning on going for it this month, but DH is going to still be away while I ovulate. The timing sucks. I only had 1 tooth out. It wasn't too bad, although I still have a hole in my gum. At least they gave me one of those syringes to clean it out.
Yay for your HCG #s!

Ali & Alootiki-Hope both of you catch those eggies!

[LynzeyAHL]

Me: I had another HCG draw today and it has doubled (73.7 to 192.6). I can't believe it--my first good news. I'm only 13 dpo, so who knows what will happen, but so far things are better than the last 2. Again, I am on baby aspirin and progesterone. My progesterone is a small does, one 50mg suppository a day, but I think it may be the difference. My level was 35.5 at a point where it was 12.6 last time.

Progesterone is my guardian angel! I wouldn't still be prego w/o it. although I do not love the suppository the prochieve gel stayed put much better but considering WITH my insurance my copay was 75 bucks for 2 weeks and I needed it for 13 weeks there was no way I could convince DH when the sups. are like 16 bucks for 14 days

[AliMC]

Ivory & LinzeyAHL - When you had your miscarriages, was it the low betas that made the doctor prescribe progesterone? I had very high betas and my m/c was was described as a blighted ovum - but I never had progesterone tests done. Did you start the progesterone after your BFP?

Annette - What a bummer that your DH will be out of town! Mine has a business trip to India which may well conflict with our next round - if we have to have one. It completely vexes me, since I am basically puttingm y life and any travel plans I might want to have on hold for all of the IF treatments.

Me - I accosted DH when he got home last night and we had the second IUI this morning. I was worried that I might not have left him enough recovery time to... umm.. perform well, but the RE said that the sample was exceptional. Unfortunately, I still haven't O'ed (he described it as a nice juicey follicle) so I may have to accost DH tonight. I told him to drink lots of water today. Hee.

I am still not so optimistic, because of the follie being on the right, where the cyst is, but I have a lot of family visiting a wedding and a baby shower to either distract or depress me for the next two weeks.

I also have acupuncture this afternoon, and will be picking up some fresh pineapple to eat overt he next 10 days. Yum.

[alootikki]

ivory - woo hoo on the doubling!! It sounds like everything is really going well - I have a good feeling for you this time!

Annette - that stinks about the timing! As if TTC again isn't hard enough without worrying about being in the same city! My DH travels a lot too, so I'm worried that one of these cycles we're going to be in the same position.

MrsCantDecide - Hope you're doing ok! I completely know what you mean about wanting to be pregnant before certain age milestones - honestly I'm still kind of upset that I won't have a baby when I'm 30 (that was always the grand "plan" in my mind :rolleyes: )

Ali - I don't think I've O-ed yet either! So we're still almost exact cycle buddies ;) I'm guessing with today's dip, that today's O day? Who knows. At least we get another BD session in. Where in India is your DH traveling? I will keep my fingers crossed for you that this cycle works out so it's not even an issue next time!! Interesting on the pineapple - I will have to try that too!

Me - A little bummed today because I thought I had O-ed yesterday, and today my temp dipped down to 97.1. My accupuncturist had said something about the ideal temp for a "good" ovulation being 97.4 or above - and I'm below that. He thinks my temps are low overall - and it's true that my pregnancy cycle, my coverline was a high 97.9, whereas all of the other cycles have been lower than that. I am wondering if there is a thyroid issue? I have no symptoms/problems, and honestly I think it's mainly genetic (my dad always has low body temp and low blood pressure too) - but hopefully I will find out soon because...

I am making an RE appointment! I found a good one who takes my insurance, and just need to get on his schedule now, hopefully in the next couple of weeks. I'm glad I'm taking these steps - it helps to take away the helpless feeling.

Anyway, hope everyone has a fun and distracting holiday weekend!

[LynzeyAHL]

ali we did some blood tests like 7-9 dpo to see where the level was he wanted my numbers to be naturally over 10 they weren't. So he wanted me to start taking prog the next cycle at like 3dpo until 13 weeks. Well the way it worked out we weren't trying so I got a VEEEEEEEERY early bfp and he started me on it that day! my level was 6.6 my beta was 16 (on wednesday) my next draw my prog. was 23.9 and my beta was 284.

For me I don't make enough prog naturally to support pregnancy so it doesn't matter if my numbers double or not I can't grow a baby w/o help. So at this point I have to stay on the supplementation until the placenta is fully formed (which makes prog for the rest of the pregnancy) until 13 weeks.

[Lanapoo]

Aloo - I don't think those temps sound all that low. That's where mine were around and since my thyroid is excessivly monitored due to my hyperthyroidism I know that I've been in normal range for the last few years. Good for you for making an RE appointment!

Ali and Aloo - Hope you both O soon.

Annette - Sorry about DH being away. Hope you get to TTC next month though.

Me - Things are going good. I started PT sessions for my sciatic nerve pain so hopefully I'll get that under control soon. I still have a hard time believing that this pregnancy is healthy this time but so far everything seems to look good and I'm starting to relax a little more.

I hope everyone is doing well, I'm really pulling for you ladies :)

[ivory]

Annette - Darn about DH's travel. Non-ttc-ers wouldn't get that waiting an extra month really does feel like a long time. But you will be even more ready for this next month. Sounds like all of our DHs travel for work--that does not make this process any easier.

AliMC - I had slow-rising betas before both miscarriages, but that wasn't what made them prescribe progesterone. My Ob ordered a progesterone level 7 dpo and another when I got a bfp. Those #s weren't super low (9.7 & 12.6) and could be enough, but doc opinions differ. When I saw an RE, she didn't want to say my progesterone was too bad, but prescribed it anyway, since we couldn't find any definite causes for the losses. I think it may be helping (level is 35.5 now). I started the suppositories 3 dpo.

You could request a 7 dpo progesterone test (they'll call it a day 21 progesterone--based on the 28 day cycle--but if you know when you O, do it at 7 dpo). I'd think your RE would have no problem with it if you asked. My "everything's fine" Ob was even willing to do it.

alootikki - Don't you hate when O makes you wait? But like you said, an extra BD is always good. My temps are like yours, if not lower--so yours seem not bad. I've