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December27JJB
03-01-2006, 06:34 PM
By MARGARET EBRAHIM and JOHN SOLOMON, Associated Press Writers
1 hour, 15 minutes ago



WASHINGTON - In dramatic and sometimes agonizing terms, federal disaster officials warned President Bush and his homeland security chief before Hurricane Katrina struck that the storm could breach levees, put lives at risk in New Orleans' Superdome and overwhelm rescuers, according to confidential video footage.

Bush didn't ask a single question during the final briefing before Katrina struck on Aug. 29, but he assured soon-to-be-battered state officials: "We are fully prepared."

The footage — along with seven days of transcripts of briefings obtained by The Associated Press — show in excruciating detail that while federal officials anticipated the tragedy that unfolded in New Orleans and elsewhere along the Gulf Coast, they were fatally slow to realize they had not mustered enough resources to deal with the unprecedented disaster.

Linked by secure video, Bush expressed a confidence on Aug. 28 that starkly contrasted with the dire warnings his disaster chief and numerous federal, state and local officials provided during the four days before the storm.

A top hurricane expert voiced "grave concerns" about the levees and then- Federal Emergency Management Agency chief Michael Brown told the president and Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff that he feared there weren't enough disaster teams to help evacuees at the Superdome.

"I'm concerned about ... their ability to respond to a catastrophe within a catastrophe," Brown told his bosses the afternoon before Katrina made landfall.

The White House and Homeland Security Department urged the public Wednesday not to read too much into the video footage.

"I hope people don't draw conclusions from the president getting a single briefing," presidential spokesman Trent Duffy said, citing a variety of orders and disaster declarations Bush signed before the storm made landfall. "He received multiple briefings from multiple officials, and he was completely engaged at all times."

Homeland Security spokesman Russ Knocke said his department would not release the full set of videotaped briefings, saying most transcripts from the sessions were provided to congressional investigators months ago.

"There's nothing new or insightful on these tapes," Knocke said. "We actively participated in the lessons-learned review and we continue to participate in the Senate's review and are working with them on their recommendation."

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, a critic of the administration's Katrina response, had a different take after watching the footage Wednesday afternoon from an AP reporter's camera.

"I have kind a sinking feeling in my gut right now," Nagin said. "I was listening to what people were saying — they didn't know, so therefore it was an issue of a learning curve. You know, from this tape it looks like everybody was fully aware."

Some of the footage and transcripts from briefings Aug. 25-31 conflicts with the defenses that federal, state and local officials have made in trying to deflect blame and minimize the political fallout from the failed Katrina response:

• Homeland Security officials have said the "fog of war" blinded them early on to the magnitude of the disaster. But the video and transcripts show federal and local officials discussed threats clearly, reviewed long-made plans and understood Katrina would wreak devastation of historic proportions. "I'm sure it will be the top 10 or 15 when all is said and done," National Hurricane Center's Max Mayfield warned the day Katrina lashed the Gulf Coast.

"I don't buy the `fog of war' defense," Brown told the AP in an interview Wednesday. "It was a fog of bureaucracy."

• Bush declared four days after the storm, "I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees" that gushed deadly flood waters into New Orleans. He later clarified, saying officials believed, wrongly, after the storm passed that the levees had survived. But the transcripts and video show there was plenty of talk about that possibility even before the storm — and Bush was worried too.

White House deputy chief of staff Joe Hagin, Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco and Brown discussed fears of a levee breach the day the storm hit.

"I talked to the president twice today, once in Crawford and then again on Air Force One," Brown said. "He's obviously watching the television a lot, and he had some questions about the Dome, he's asking questions about reports of breaches."

• Louisiana officials angrily blamed the federal government for not being prepared but the transcripts shows they were still praising FEMA as the storm roared toward the Gulf Coast and even two days afterward. "I think a lot of the planning FEMA has done with us the past year has really paid off," Col. Jeff Smith, Louisiana's emergency preparedness deputy director, said during the Aug. 28 briefing.

It wasn't long before Smith and other state officials sounded overwhelmed.

"We appreciate everything that you all are doing for us, and all I would ask is that you realize that what's going on and the sense of urgency needs to be ratcheted up," Smith said Aug. 30.

Mississippi begged for more attention in that same briefing.

"We know that there are tens or hundreds of thousands of people in Louisiana that need to be rescued, but we would just ask you, we desperately need to get our share of assets because we'll have people dying — not because of water coming up, but because we can't get them medical treatment in our affected counties," said a Mississippi state official whose name was not mentioned on the tape.

Video footage of the Aug. 28 briefing, the final one before Katrina struck, showed an intense Brown voicing concerns from the government's disaster operation center and imploring colleagues to do whatever was necessary to help victims.

"We're going to need everything that we can possibly muster, not only in this state and in the region, but the nation, to respond to this event," Brown warned. He called the storm "a bad one, a big one" and implored federal agencies to cut through red tape to help people, bending rules if necessary.

"Go ahead and do it," Brown said. "I'll figure out some way to justify it. ... Just let them yell at me."

Bush appeared from a narrow, windowless room at his vacation ranch in Texas, with his elbows on a table. Hagin was sitting alongside him. Neither asked questions in the Aug. 28 briefing.

"I want to assure the folks at the state level that we are fully prepared to not only help you during the storm, but we will move in whatever resources and assets we have at our disposal after the storm," the president said.

A relaxed Chertoff, sporting a polo shirt, weighed in from Washington at Homeland Security's operations center. He would later fly to Atlanta, outside of Katrina's reach, for a bird flu event.

One snippet captures a missed opportunity on Aug. 28 for the government to have dispatched active-duty military troops to the region to augment the National Guard.

Chertoff: "Are there any DOD assets that might be available? Have we reached out to them?"

Brown: "We have DOD assets over here at EOC (emergency operations center). They are fully engaged. And we are having those discussions with them now."

Chertoff: "Good job."

In fact, active duty troops weren't dispatched until days after the storm. And many states' National Guards had yet to be deployed to the region despite offers of assistance, and it took days before the Pentagon deployed active-duty personnel to help overwhelmed Guardsmen.

The National Hurricane Center's Mayfield told the final briefing before Katrina struck that storm models predicted minimal flooding inside New Orleans during the hurricane but he expressed concerns that counterclockwise winds and storm surges afterward could cause the levees at Lake Pontchartrain to be overrun.

"I don't think any model can tell you with any confidence right now whether the levees will be topped or not but that is obviously a very, very grave concern," Mayfield told the briefing.

Other officials expressed concerns about the large number of New Orleans residents who had not evacuated.

"They're not taking patients out of hospitals, taking prisoners out of prisons and they're leaving hotels open in downtown New Orleans. So I'm very concerned about that," Brown said.

Despite the concerns, it ultimately took days for search and rescue teams to reach some hospitals and nursing homes.

Brown also told colleagues one of his top concerns was whether evacuees who went to the New Orleans Superdome — which became a symbol of the failed Katrina response — would be safe and have adequate medical care.

"The Superdome is about 12 feet below sea level.... I don't know whether the roof is designed to stand, withstand a Category Five hurricane," he said.

Brown also wanted to know whether there were enough federal medical teams in place to treat evacuees and the dead in the Superdome.

"Not to be (missing) kind of gross here," Brown interjected, "but I'm concerned" about the medical and mortuary resources "and their ability to respond to a catastrophe within a catastrophe."

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Associated Press writers Ron Fournier and Lara Jakes Jordan contributed to this report.

On the Net:

Homeland Security Department: http://www.dhs.gov

Federal Emergency Management Agency: http://www.fema.gov

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060302/ap_on_go_pr_wh/katrina_video_10;_ylt=Ahaf13N0USC.RH_E1RPK8DIbLisB ;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

lawyerlee
03-01-2006, 06:37 PM
Gee, so it's probably time to stop lying about what they knew and take some responsibility for the role their complete failure to act had in the suffering of so many people. And maybe a good place to start taking responsibility would be with getting shit in order in New Orleans, like, yesterday if not sooner. :mad: Of course, Brown can't exactly claim to be so innocent. We all know he was completely ineffective and not exactly so worried about people. But I mean, I'm sure his wardrobe choices really did need to be at front and center in his mind. :rolleyes:

msnicolea
03-01-2006, 07:59 PM
I'm actually starting to feel a little sorry for Brown--though he bears some responsibillity, it's becoming more and more obvious that he was the fall guy for this administration.

miel
03-01-2006, 08:50 PM
I'm actually starting to feel a little sorry for Brown--though he bears some responsibillity, it's becoming more and more obvious that he was the fall guy for this administration.

I know, but that's ridiculous because the administration should bear the responsibility of his appointment! They seem to come away from everything unscathed.

Scooter
03-02-2006, 12:08 AM
I'm actually starting to feel a little sorry for Brown--though he bears some responsibillity, it's becoming more and more obvious that he was the fall guy for this administration.
Well someone's got to be, because you know Bush sure isn't going to admit any mistakes. :rolleyes:

artist
03-02-2006, 10:21 AM
I don't know if I feel sorry for Brown (for the same reasons lawyerlee mentioned), but he definitely became the scapegoat for the Bush Administration who has not really owned up to ANY mistakes. (Remember a few years ago when Bush couldn't think of any mistakes he had made when asked that question in a press conference following a previous State of the Union Address...the one where he wore that awful blinding tie? Yeah, he could have at LEAST admitted it was a mistake to wear that tie that day.)

miel
03-02-2006, 10:35 AM
I was just thinking about this story and realizing their excuse is probably kind of like:

"Yeah, we knew but we didn't really KNOW. We didn't know how bad it was going to be (meaning: how bad it was going to LOOK). We didn't know what would happen later. We didn't know it would become an ongoing political problem for us."

Basically, I think the main problem here is not just indifference but incompetence. They show poor judgement everywhere down the line. INCREDIBLY poor judgement. They are marginally competent at best. Most people criticize them for moral reasons but really, even if you don't do that the fact that they constantly screw things up in a major way matters a lot.

The funny thing is that the Repubs have managed to project an air of confidence. The air of confidence is of course, totally misleading. What it really is is an air of "I'm never going to second guess myself. And not only that but I'm never even going to THINK about what I'm doing because I know I'm right."

This is partly why they screw up so badly. They don't think about the Iraq war going wrong or insurgency because they are so SURE they are right.

It shows that actually being a bit uncertain and checking and double checking and asking others and listening to criticisms and thinking about what your opponents say, etc., etc. is a major leadership skill. Yet, when candidates display any change of mind they are portrayed as weak and wishy-washy.

If Bush and Co. had been more wishy-washy maybe some of these things like Iraq and medicare and the hunt for the terrorists would not be the fiascos they are.

They don't have this ability to reflect or change their minds. They suck at leadership and administration partly for that reason. Of course, it doesn't help that they tend to be wrong a lot of the time and they tend to be indifferent to ordinary people's problems.

We better PRAY TO GOD that the chicken flu doesn't hit us when one of them is in office. Or that major terrorist attack doesn't happen. If it does, a lot more people will die than need to die.

It shows one thing. It shows that bluster and arrogance and overconfidence can't get you everywhere. You will blow it at some point. You will fool some of the people (how, I can't even understand) but you will get found out eventually.

Of course, getting people killed seems to be a far more minor sin in our country than committing adultery and lying about it.

msnicolea
03-02-2006, 10:54 AM
Anxiously awaiting the Bush apologists' responses. . .

pocket
03-02-2006, 11:33 AM
There's really nothing else to say. This administration has been a complete disaster from day 1. Only someone blinded by ideology could think that they are doing anything close to a decent job. I do not think that good judgment and basic competence at public sector management are too much to ask of the president of the united states. a major american city was destroyed and many people died through the negligent actions and sucky leadership of George Bush. If anyone is doing a heckuva job, it's him.

artist
03-02-2006, 01:06 PM
miel,

ITA.


It scares me how incompetent they are. We can't take care of our own people ever, and we can't even take care of them in a disaster. Now we are letting our enemies control 6 major ports. Great.

ETA:
So in other words, aren't we making the terrorists' job easier?

philnikki
03-02-2006, 01:32 PM
I heard this this morning and wondered what kind of political spin would come of it.

I remember watching this all occur (within days of having given birth) and maybe it was crazy hormones, but I had such RAGE for our government and what they put those people through. I just kept looking at my little baby and seeing all of the other little babies who weren't getting food or water....it was just so awful.

And now its painfully obvious that it was all just bureaucracy that led to incredible suffering and a tremendous loss of life....this is just so, so sad. Incompetent isn't the half of it when it comes to this administration I fear. :( :(

flygirl
03-02-2006, 02:38 PM
Bush was told at the briefing that there was grave concern over the leevies, and not 5 days later he said no one could have anticipated that. Yeah, he certainly was engaged. :rolleyes: I know he retracted that statement later, but how in the world could he have said it in the first place?