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sarahh
06-26-2005, 08:47 AM
This thread will be dedicated to Season Five coming this fall (hopefully)! Until then feel free to post questions, comments, news, gossip about the show!

Be warned there ARE spoilers for all seasons in this thread.

kakirk
06-26-2005, 09:38 AM
Not that I ever look (who, me?? :p), but www.spoilerfix.com is a great place for Alias (and other) spoilers!!

I love Alias. :)

Katie

stevesbabygirl
06-26-2005, 11:32 AM
Oh hell yes, Alias :D!

sarahh
06-26-2005, 01:50 PM
Not that I ever look (who, me?? :p), but www.spoilerfix.com is a great place for Alias (and other) spoilers!!

I love Alias. :)

KatieSpoiler Fix is one of my favorite sites for Alias (and Lost) spoilers! ;)

Katy
06-26-2005, 10:36 PM
I'm here and reporting for duty! I can't wait until it starts. I must know Vaughn's secret!! I must, I must

sheartm7
06-27-2005, 09:54 AM
Subscribing. :)

I hope the new season airs in the fall - I can't imagine waiting til January.

carrie9142
06-28-2005, 12:18 PM
I'm here too! I am interested to see what they do with JG's pregnancy.

sarahh
06-28-2005, 01:26 PM
CARRIE!! So happy to see you made it to CC!!!

Wrighty26
06-28-2005, 03:30 PM
I never belonged to the WC thread because it was so big... but I'm definitely subscribing now :)

Who loves ya some Vartan??

:p

hockeybrat
06-28-2005, 03:36 PM
I can't wait til Season 5 comes out!

Kristibell
06-29-2005, 09:37 AM
I am a former lurker coming out of hiding. I'm excited to be in at the start of this thread and hope I can be more involved.

I love all things Alias, Jennifer Garner, and Michael Vartan! I'm anxiuosly waiting for season 5.

eli1126
06-29-2005, 09:42 AM
Subscribing! I Tivo'D the last episode and watched it again before I erased it the other night :D Is it set to start in January again? I did Not like waiting last season :(

Beth

hotpinksugar
06-29-2005, 10:43 AM
eli1126 - Everything I've read says it's scheduled to start in the fall. I'm dying with anticipation to see what happens so I hope they don't push it back to January!

Wrighty26
06-29-2005, 12:37 PM
I read that new episodes start Oct. 6th (tentatively)-- and that shooting starts up again in July.

I have no idea what they are going to do about the pregnancy though-- a lot of close up/body double shots?

lawyerlee
06-29-2005, 12:54 PM
I'm here! I'm dying for the new season after that killer cliffhanger. And I'm demanding that it be good. Not some cheesy dream sequence. It's OK if the crash itself was a dream, but if the past five years was a dream, I'm going to be seriously dissapointed.

I absolutely love Jennifer Garner! I'm so excited about her pregnancy. I love seeing pictures of her and her little growing tummy. :D

SQ2
06-30-2005, 04:21 PM
Subscribing! :D

stevesbabygirl
06-30-2005, 08:36 PM
Hey gang,

Time for a shameless plug :D! I'm a moderator over at The 47 (http://s11.invisionfree.com/T47), which is a board dedicated to Alias and Lost fans! We only have about 25 members, so I would love to see some of you go over there and check it out!

BryantRN
07-01-2005, 10:02 AM
OMG, I am so happy to find this thread!! I am a die hard Alias fan, but I missed the season finale!!! I need details! What happened??? I saw the previews that he was going to ask her to marry him, but don't know what happened. Someone please fill me in.

Let me just add that I would much rather see Jennifer Garner with Michael Vartan than with yucky Ben Affleck. What was she thinking?? Too wierd that they are together in real life now and that Michael Vartan and J-lo were together in that movie.

Anxiously awaiting.


~Renee~

Wrighty26
07-01-2005, 10:26 AM
Check this out...it recaps all the episodes, in full detail!

TWoP (http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/show.cgi?show=75)

You definitely missed a good one :(

meatpie
07-01-2005, 04:39 PM
I recently read they will write her pregnancy into the show and it will start in the Fall.

So who knows where it is going, but I can almost guarantee this is the final season. enjoy it while it lasts!!!

BryantRN
07-01-2005, 09:38 PM
Didn't I hear somewhere that she signed a 10 year deal, so she still has another 5 years left?? Maybe I am wrong.

sarahh
07-02-2005, 05:42 AM
I'm pretty sure her contract is until 2007 or 2008?

Wrighty26
07-02-2005, 09:57 AM
I've also read an interview that JJ did--where he pretty much declared that this will be the final year-- and that he/writers have the whole season plotline mapped out. Who knows though! At least they are hitting 100 episodes-- so Alias is elegible for syndication (and I think I read somewhere that TNT got the rights or something?)!

stevesbabygirl
07-02-2005, 10:39 AM
I heard that her contract was for 7 years, and MV was for 6.

BryantRN
07-04-2005, 12:49 PM
Can someone give me just a brief re-cap of what happened on the last episode? I tried to look at that TWOP site and it was too damn long. I don't want to read through 13 pages just to get to the good stuff! Please someone tell me what happened :confused: .

~Renee~

Wrighty26
07-04-2005, 04:03 PM
The best I can recap is from Television without Pity:

"This season finale is supposed to be all about dismantling Clifford the Big Red Ball, but what it really winds up being about is how Michael Vaughn isn't really Michael Vaughn. Um, huh? Yeah, the Spy Family dismantles the Great Glowing Orb of Evil, Irina shoots Elena dead between the eyes, Nadia gets shot by Sloane because she's infected with the Red-Eyed Menace, and Sydney finally, FINALLY accepts Vaughn's proposal, but, when Vaughn announces in the last thirty seconds of the episode that he's not really Michael Vaughn, the sh*t really hits the fan."

So, basicallly the important thing you need to know is that as Syd and Vaughn are driving to Santa Barbara--after they deal with the whole Rambaldi stuff. Vaughn tells Syd that he has something to tell her, that is wasn't a coincidence that they met when they did. Then he tells her that his name isn't really Michael Vaughn. Just as he's about to explain a car comes our of NOWHERE (which made me just 10 feet in my seat) and slams into the car. Annnnddd...that's where it ends.
:)

Is that what you're looking for?

sarahh
07-04-2005, 04:54 PM
Here's a more detailed re-cap of the finale from www.abc.com ...

Season 4: Episode 22 - "Before the Flood
5/25/2005
Jack, Irina, Nadia, Vaughn and Sydney land in the city of Sovogda. They walk through a deserted street littered with corpses and burning cars. As they wait for the Department of Special Research team, they speak to Marshall and Weiss, who report that Director Chase is trying to convince the Russians to call off the air strike.

At APO, Marshall and Weiss use the Blackwell Index to blackmail a Russian minister into giving them the access code to a Russian satellite. They soon discover that Elena is uplinking to the Russian network.

Syd follows a DSR signal, which leads to a severed arm. Suddenly, a CIA agent named Brodien emerges from the shadows and tells them that his DSR team was ambushed by the infected mob, which has left thousands dead. He reminds them that the Rambaldi device is broadcasting a subaudible frequency that physiologically alters people who drink the water. The symptoms, he says, are irreversible.

He also says the epicenter is located over the Oransky building, and that while he has taken out the city's power grid, the device is still running. Irina suggests that it has been modified to run using an internal energy source. They decide to take the subway, as it is the quickest way to the building.

Elena learns of the APO team's arrival. When Sloane volunteers to lead the assault team, Elena tells him to bring Nadia back and give her the option to join them.

As the APO team approaches the subway tunnel, an infected man impales Brodien with a rod. As Jack, Vaughn and Irina try to start the train's emergency battery system, Syd and Nadia go inside the train's switching room to force the train to stop at the Oransky building. Irina urges Vaughn to tell Syd "the truth." Syd tells Nadia that Vaughn asked her to marry him. Nadia and Sydney split up to manually adjust the switches.

Sydney returns to the train first while Nadia, down the tracks, flips the switch. The train rolls down the tracks as a mob chases Nadia. Jack refuses to stop the train because if he does, it won't start again. Sydney stretches to pull Nadia to the train but she's tackled by an infected madman. Irina tells Syd that Nadia is still alive.

Sloane kills Elena's men and waits at the station. He tells them that Elena has primed the world's drinking water. As Syd voices her suspicions, Sloane says he allied himself with Elena to put an end to this himself, but Elena built in a security device that Sloane couldn't crack. Jack punches Sloane and takes control of the team.

Marshall reports that Elena is going to use the Russian satellite to distribute the Rambaldi frequency worldwide. Once it goes online, the Rambaldi signal will be broadcast and everyone will be infected. Irina says they need to shut down the device from the roof of the building.

Jack tells Sloane to take them to Elena. Sloane cautions that once they disable the device, the toxins will dissipate in the atmosphere and the person who disarms it will only have a few seconds to run. When Irina insists that she can cut the wire and reverse ionization, Sloane reveals that Elena had changed the wiring scheme as a fail-safe. Irina orders him to take her to Elena so she can force her to reveal information while Syd disarms the bomb.

Nadia fends off the mob and wanders the streets. She approaches a wounded man who surprisingly holds a gun to her head and takes her to Elena. When she refuses to join Elena, Elena injects her with the contaminated water.

Before Syd heads out to the rooftop to disarm the bomb, she turns to Vaughn and says, "Just in case: yes, I'm gonna marry you." She wears his ring and hops into the elevator.

Marshall tries to connect to the satellite. Weiss says the President and his Cabinet are being evacuated to secret bunkers.

Sloane arrives with Vaughn, Irina and Jack. Vaughn searches for the relay room. They strap Elena to a chair.

Sydney reaches the rooftop and opens a hatch that revealed hundreds of interwoven wires. Nadia, now infected by the device, walks toward Sydney. Jack and Irina urge a reluctant Syd to take her out. The sisters battle. Vaughn blows the relay but nothing happens. Irina tells him to get to the roof. Sydney knocks Nadia out and chains her up.

Vaughn arrives on the roof and realizes that Sloane is not there. Meanwhile, Irina guides Sydney in disarming the device. Irina gives her sister a chance to help them as Jack gets ready to torture Elena. When Jack pierces her with a syringe, Elena yells that Sydney should cut the white wire. Irina shoots Elena in the head and tells Syd to cut the blue wire instead and run fast -- she only has 15 seconds.

Sydney is about to cut the wire when Nadia strangles her from behind with the chain. As Sydney starts to suffocate, Sloane arrives and shoots Nadia. Syd sees Vaughn and tells him to take the wounded Nadia with them. Syd then cuts the blue wire and runs away as the device starts to fall apart. They race inside the quaking building and sprints toward a shelter -- they have just saved the world.

Jack advises Irina, who is wanted by the CIA, to disappear. They kiss. Irina tells Syd that she's proud of her. She says that Syd may not see her on her wedding day, but she'll see Syd.

Later, Syd visits Sloane in a jail cell, tells him that Nadia is stable, but they're still trying to find an antidote. The Russian military executed all survivors to support their claim that it was a chemical explosion. Sydney has arranged for Sloane to see Nadia. She believes he was trying to do the right thing. Sloane thanks her.

Driving in Santa Barbara, Syd suggests to Vaughn that they blow off the big wedding and elope. After professing their love, Vaughn reveals that that he was a bad guy before they met. He continues to say that to begin with, his name is not Michael Vaughn. Before Sydney can react, a car collides with theirs.

sarahh
07-14-2005, 06:25 AM
Jennifer Garner got an Emmy nomination for Best Actress in a Drama Series this morning! :D

Wrighty26
07-14-2005, 06:32 AM
Woo-hoo!

I think she has a good chance this year too.. Alison Janney (who always wins, I swear) wasn't nominated, right?

sarahh
07-14-2005, 06:53 AM
Woo-hoo!

I think she has a good chance this year too.. Alison Janney (who always wins, I swear) wasn't nominated, right?She's up against...Glenn Close of "The Shield", Frances Conroy of "Six Feet Under", Mariska Hargitay of "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" and Patricia Arquette of "Medium."

SQ2
07-14-2005, 06:57 AM
Cool! :D When are the Emmys?

sarahh
07-14-2005, 07:08 AM
September 22nd! I really hope she wins...she deserves it. Plus she would look so cute in a maternity Emmy gown! ;)

stevesbabygirl
07-14-2005, 04:15 PM
Yay!

littlebear
07-15-2005, 05:38 AM
OK. I'm a loser. I just got hooked on Alias this summer. We started watching the Season 1 DVDs. We are going to try to get through all 4 seasons before the new eps start, but just in case we can't, is there a particular season or part of one that we could skip and not be completely lost?

Thanks! I'm trying not to read this whole thread because I don't want to spoil the earlier seasons, but I'm dying to know what's happened.

Juliana
07-15-2005, 10:23 AM
Subscribing- so happy to have a place to talk about one of my fav shows. I've been hooked on Alias since the beginning when it was my favorite form of procrastination from grad school. Really who doesn't need a little Vaughn or Spy Daddy action in their life?

After suffering through season 3, I got back on track this year and am now ready for season 5- I need to know who Vaughn is!! I did read somwehere that Alias is moving to Thursday nights at 8. Not a fan of this plan. I really liked my Wed night JJ Abrams marathon with Lost and Alias (throw in some Felicity reruns, and I would be a truly happy woman!). Also, now Alias is up against Joey, Will&Grace, the OC, and Survivor- none of my faves, but pretty tough competition.

I'm happy for Jennifer Garner's emmy nom- with no Gilmore Girls or Veronica Mars on the list, I'll be totally rooting for her!!

stevesbabygirl
07-15-2005, 12:02 PM
littlebear,

I tend to believe you could skip most of season 4, as it didn't seem to have any direction. However, that being said, I would still watch every single episode. You never know where there could be clues about things to come.

Rose
07-15-2005, 01:17 PM
I think S4 would be skippable plot wise, or at least skip to the last 4 or 5 episodes.

Juliana
07-15-2005, 05:35 PM
I agree with the last 2 posts- skip the beginning of Season 4- no real main plotlines or ties back to previous seasons here, just various missions. I remember reading something that the episodes were actually shown in a different order than they were originally taped, so I guess that shows there was no real buildup going on.

Season 1 and 2 are awesome and be sure not to miss them! I watched these DVDs with DH to get him caught up and was amazed at how much info was in each episode that I missed the first time around!

Happy viewing!

KaliLily
07-15-2005, 08:34 PM
I'll throw my 2 cents in and say that Season 4 didn't get really interesting until the last half (or less). Not that missions aren't fun to watch, but it didn't "hook" me right off like it had the prior seasons. I kept asking "Where is it going? How does this week tie into last week?" The end got me good, though. It took some time to lift my jaw off the floor. :)

I'm really looking forward to Season 5, which I fear will be it's last. The last report I read on ABC's fall line-up showed Alias would be on Thursdays at 8pm. Whoever made that decision must not like the show!

Sazoo
07-15-2005, 09:51 PM
I cannot wait to find out what Vaughn's big secret is! It had better be good, because the anticipation all summer long is killing me! :)

It'll be interesting to see how they deal with Jennifer Garner's pregnancy on the show. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for her to win the Emmy, too! :D

sarahh
07-16-2005, 05:11 AM
Just got an email from Amazon.com to pre-order Season Four on DVD. Looks like it will be released on October 25th. I don't know if that means Season 5 will premiere before or after that date? Usually the DVD for the previous season is released before the next season starts.

sarahh
07-16-2005, 05:19 AM
Here's a little peek into what Season Five will involve....this contains storyline spoilers for next season but nothing too revealing! ;)
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J.J. will be bringing in a couple of rookie agents and Sydney will serve as their mentor. I'm hearing that the roles haven't been cast yet, but they're looking for an actor and an actress in their early twenties as we speak. Ideas? Votes?Personally, I’m rooting for a guy by the name of David Anders … Or Bradley Cooper … Sniff, sniff. By the way, I'm told that David DID shoot a scene for Alias' finale, and it will either be included in the premiere or on the DVD. No news on Lena Olin signing on for the new season. It's very likely that Alias will end after this season. This is number 5, and all contracts would have to be renewed (all actors signed initial 5-year deals). Source: Kristin on E!Online

07/09 - Sydney Bristow will assume the roll of a handler to a few rookie agents next season. Here are the direct quotes from the magazine: Jennifer Garner: “I think it’s time for Sydney to grow up and be in a position of teaching someone younger. J.J. and I have talked about this a lot - because I don’t necessarily buy that she’s the wide-eyed innocent anymore at this point, so I’m interested to see her be almost the ‘handler’ for somebody new.” Jesse Alexander: “We’re going to be introducing some new characters that we are very excited about – some new young agents. Right now, we’re looking for a young woman and a young man around 23 years-old to kind of mix up it a little bit.” Source: Alias Yearbook (Thanks Alias Media for the tip.)

07/09 - Sydney next year will be playing the role of handler to two new young CIA agents. These agents will be about 23 years old. Also Rambaldi will be back next year along with other mysteries. Source: Alias Magazine #10 Source: www.spoilerfix.com

sarahh
07-16-2005, 05:19 AM
Looks like they'll start taping soon...production on the show's fifth (and likely final) season is slated to begin on Monday, August 1. And as far as I know, ABC still plans to launch it this fall. Source: Ask Ausiello @ TV Guide Source: www.spoilerfix.com

stevesbabygirl
07-16-2005, 11:41 AM
Oooh, how interesting! I've heard that season 5 starts October 6th. The release date for season 4 seems really late compared to when they used to do it, like in early September. I would think it had to do with the season starting so late, but it ended around the same time as it usually had in the past.

littlebear
07-16-2005, 01:02 PM
Thanks everyone! Good to know about Season 4. We are starting Season 2 tonight.

sarahh
07-19-2005, 09:58 AM
OMG!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: If this spoiler is true...this is HUGE....

From www.spoilerfix.com ...
A pregnancy storyline is written, and Kristin says it's not Vaughn's baby. She more or less acknowledges Vaughn is Rambaldi, and that it's his baby. Nothing on the rookie agents yet. Source: Kristin on E!Online

From Watch With Kristen Chat Transcript...

From julielane: Any confirmation yet on whether the new Mrs. Affleck's pregnancy will be written into Alias?
Yes. That's all I can say for now, but yes, I can confirm a pregnancy-related storyline is in the works.

From dani: Are they really writing in a pregnancy on Alias? It has to be Vaughn's baby, right? Right?
Actually, I'm hearing a different story! Don't be so sure...

From katejones: What? It's not Vaughn's? I know you probably won't spill this (too big), but could it be Rambaldi's?
Hmmm...

From lovingthefunkes: It's Rambaldi's baby! Because Vaughn is Rambaldi! Mwahaha!
Hmmm...!!!

Highlight text with cursor to read. Please be sure to discuss this and other spoilers using spoiler warning and/or white text! ;)

hockeybrat
07-19-2005, 10:05 AM
:eek: :eek:

Wow, I can't wait til Season 5 starts, this sounds really exciting!

SQ2
07-19-2005, 10:06 AM
I can't wait for Season 5!!! :D

sheartm7
07-19-2005, 10:10 AM
Wow! Can't wait for the show to start. :D

KaliLily
07-19-2005, 10:13 AM
Can't wait to see how they explain this! :eek:

Juliana
07-19-2005, 12:44 PM
It's not fair to post info like that and then make us wait until October!!
In the past, Kristin's spoilers can sometimes be wrong, but this one would certainly be one heck of a twist. Vaughn has some serious explaining to do!! :eek:

njlorelei
07-25-2005, 01:56 PM
I don't know if anyone posted this yet, but those who are missing Bradley Cooper (Will) he's in the movie Wedding Crashers. It was a really funny movie!

SQ2
07-27-2005, 07:03 AM
Garner to Become Pregnant Spy on 'Alias' (http://apnews1.iwon.com//article/20050727/D8BJN74O4.html?PG=home&SEC=news)

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BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. (AP) - Jennifer Garner is expecting a baby, so her "Alias" character will be too, even though she's a globe-trotting spy. "We are going to embrace the fact that she's pregnant," ABC programming chief Stephen McPherson said, referring to the character, Sydney Bristow.

But the show will focus on making the situation realistic and not "campy," he said.

"We also don't want to put her in situations where she's endangering herself and the baby," making it difficult for viewers to suspend disbelief, he said.

Garner, 33, and Ben Affleck, 32, her co-star in the 2003 movie "Daredevil," wed in June. Their baby is due around Christmas, McPherson told the Television Critics Association on Tuesday.

"Alias" returns Sept. 29 for its fifth season in a new Thursday night time slot.

Asked if he thought the show might lose male viewers who eagerly anticipate seeing Garner in action, McPherson replied that "she'll be able to run a fair amount."

But he acknowledged her exploits would change when Garner is visibly pregnant. To protect the show's sex appeal quotient, a younger agent who is being mentored by Sydney will be added, he said.

That role has yet to be cast.

In the series, Sydney is in a relationship with another agent played by Michael Vartan - who Garner was romantically linked with in real life.

sheartm7
07-27-2005, 07:10 AM
It's gotta feel a little weird - pretending to be pregant on the show by her real life ex? Not to mention all their love scenes ...

sarahh
07-27-2005, 08:35 AM
More spoilers....highlight text below to read....

According to Alias writer Breen Frazier, Syd is pregnant with Vaughn's baby. Vaughn was investigating something with a rogue female agent. The female young trainee is going to be played by Rachel Nichols (The Inside) , a male character is not cast yet. Greg Grunberg (Weiss) will leave. Mia Maestro (Nadia) and Lena Olin (Irina) will return for some episodes, but Melissa George won't.

I'm hearing Sloane will be evil again. And Rambaldi is out ... at least that's the plan (mandate?). I hear that Dixon might be a little, um, well, evil this season ... at least for a bit.

sheartm7
07-27-2005, 08:39 AM
but Melissa George won't.

GOOD. :D

Sazoo
07-27-2005, 09:41 AM
Who is Melissa George? :confused:

SQ2
07-27-2005, 09:42 AM
She played Lauren in Season 3. :) Evil....evil...Lauren...

sarahh
07-27-2005, 09:43 AM
She played Vaughn's wife....Lauren Reed.

Sazoo
07-27-2005, 09:45 AM
Ahhh, okay, thanks. The name of the actress wasn't ringing any bells with me. ;)

lawyerlee
07-27-2005, 03:13 PM
I can't freaking wait until the show starts again. :eek: :eek: :eek:

Katy
07-27-2005, 05:19 PM
wow, thanks for posting about this thread in the Ben&Jen thread (to think I made a visit over early on, but never subscribed. As for those spoilers :eek: All I can say it HOOOOOOLLLLEEEEEE COW!! I can't wait!

Wrighty26
07-29-2005, 06:33 PM
Have y'all read Watch with Kristin on E!Online this week??? It's spoilerish, so I won't post what she wrote-- but it's not hard to figure out who she's talking about.

Check it out:

Watch with Kristin (http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Kristin/Archive2005/050729.html)

SQ2
07-29-2005, 06:39 PM
I'm hoping that article is not talking about who everyone thinks it's talking about. :( I would seriously cry.

Wrighty26
07-29-2005, 06:44 PM
I have a feeling it is :( I might cry too...but it might be good for the show (trying to think positive thoughts!)...

SQ2
07-29-2005, 06:45 PM
But...there have been other people rumored to be leaving too so maybe it's talking about one of them?

Wrighty26
07-29-2005, 06:48 PM
Let's hope :D

Katy
07-29-2005, 06:55 PM
Okay, I just read that, and I'm all for not spoiling things *too* much, but um...not exactly sure who it is (I *think* I know, but not sure). I'm afraid to fish around too much on the 'net, so would someone mind PMing me with the details?

Feel free to post here to let the others know you've PM'd me so I don't get a gazillion PMs and thanks for keeping me in the loop...

sarahh
07-29-2005, 07:15 PM
So...who does everyone think it is? PM with your thoughts. I am dying to figure this out!

Wrighty26
07-30-2005, 04:46 AM
I PMed both of you...

If I read anything else, I'll post a link here...

SQ2
07-30-2005, 05:03 AM
We should start an Alias Spoilers thread or something! :D

Hey, have you guys seen this site (http://www.twoevilmonks.org/alias/aliasintro.htm)? It's one of my favorite Alias websites. They have great photo recaps of each episode. Just thought I'd share.

sarahh
07-30-2005, 06:21 AM
I think spoilers will be ok in this thread. Just be sure to post them and any resulting discussion about the spoilers in white. I think two Alias threads would be too much. :o

sarahh
07-30-2005, 06:24 AM
OK...so the consensus if that Vaughn will be leaving this season. Honestly...after everything that happened in Season 3, it doesn't kill me to imagine the show without Vaughn. I just don't have the love for a Syd and Vaughn relationship like I did in Seasons 1 & 2.

I wonder how it will play out. Either way Syd will be devastated and that sucks!

sheartm7
07-30-2005, 07:03 AM
Wasn't Garner making a stink about Vaughn's character a couple months back? She was saying something like she thought the writers should kill him off or whatever, because things are so weird between them. Ugh, Alias just won't be the same without Vaughn - I know I'll still watch, but it'll be weird. :(

Wrighty26
07-30-2005, 07:29 AM
Spoiler...

I agree. I mean love Vartan, but I think a fresh storyline would be good for the show. Plus Jennifer does the "dramatic" scenes SO well... I don't doubt that if they do "kill him off" that there will a huge twist or something...


That said, I still can't wait for Season 5!

KaliLily
07-30-2005, 10:43 AM
She was saying something like she thought the writers should kill him off or whatever, because things are so weird between them.

A good example for why co-workers shouldn't date - especially when people's entertainment is on the line! :D

sheartm7
07-30-2005, 01:55 PM
KaliLily, seriously! ;)

SQ2
07-30-2005, 03:34 PM
sarahh I agree, 2 threads would be too much. It was just an offhand thought in case anyone was getting annoyed with all the spoiler talk. ;) But putting them in white print seems to be working well.

Wasn't Garner making a stink about Vaughn's character a couple months back? She was saying something like she thought the writers should kill him off or whatever, because things are so weird between them. Ugh, Alias just won't be the same without Vaughn - I know I'll still watch, but it'll be weird.

(Weird, it won't do the quoted parts in white so I had to use italics.)

I heard that this was just a rumor and that they are still "best friends" and their romantic relationship was really short and didn't really amount to anything. But who knows...

I really really hope that Michael Vartan doesn't leave the show. Especially if this is the last season. I thought his contract was for at least throught Season 5. :confused:

I just don't have the love for a Syd and Vaughn relationship like I did in Seasons 1 & 2.

It's funny becuse I *just* started watching Alias this past March. Rented all the DVDs and caught up until the end of Season 4 (got an "illegal" copy of S4 on eBay)...so for me it feels like the Syd & Vaughn days from 1 & 2 were so recent but for most people I could see how they feel like it's time for a change.

But still....I really want him to stay. They have to get married right? :(

sheartm7
08-01-2005, 11:28 AM
I think some of these have been posted before, but just so they are all together, here is a list of spoilers.

General Season 5 Spoilers:

07/29 - Someone is leaving Alias. A main, integral character. It's happening early in the season. this Alias star is leaving of his/her own will. Source: Kristin on E!Online
07/26 - According to Alias writer Breen Frazier, Syd is pregnant with Vaughn's baby. Vaughn was investigating something with a rogue female agent. The female young trainee is going to be played by Rachel Nichols (The Inside), a male character is not cast yet. Greg Grunberg (Weiss) will leave. Mia Maestro (Nadia) and Lena Olin (Irina) will return for some episodes, but Melissa George won't. Source: Post Gazette
07/25 - Nadia will not appear next season, not even in 1 episode. I'm hearing Sloane will be evil again. And Rambaldi is out ... at least that's the plan (mandate?). I hear that Dixon might be a little, um, well, evil this season ... at least for a bit. Source: Kristin on E!Online
07/19 - Nothing on the rookie agents yet. A pregnancy storyline is written, and Kristin says [Highlight if you really want to know... it's not Vaughn's baby. Kristin insinuates Vaughn is Rambaldi (or Rambaldi-related), and that it's his baby.] Source: Kristin on E!Online Note: From the 07/25 spoilers, it seems that they decided against this Vaughn/Rambaldi thing after all.
07/19 - According to Variety, writers Josh Appelbaum and Andre Nemec renegotiated their contract with Touchstone TV, to remain co-exec producers for the next two seasons on Alias. Source: Variety
07/13 - Production on the show's fifth (and likely final) season is slated to begin on Monday, August 1. And as far as I know, ABC still plans to launch it this fall. Source: Ask Ausiello @ TV Guide
07/12 - J.J. will be bringing in a couple of rookie agents and Sydney will serve as their mentor. I'm hearing that the roles haven't been cast yet, but they're looking for an actor and an actress in their early twenties as we speak. No news on Lena Olin signing on for the new season. It's very likely that Alias will end after this season. This is number 5, and all contracts would have to be renewed (all actors signed initial 5-year deals). Source: Kristin on E!Online
07/09 - Sydney Bristow will assume the roll of a handler to a few rookie agents next season. Here are the direct quotes from the magazine: Jennifer Garner: “I think it’s time for Sydney to grow up and be in a position of teaching someone younger. J.J. and I have talked about this a lot - because I don’t necessarily buy that she’s the wide-eyed innocent anymore at this point, so I’m interested to see her be almost the ‘handler’ for somebody new.” Jesse Alexander: “We’re going to be introducing some new characters that we are very excited about – some new young agents. Right now, we’re looking for a young woman and a young man around 23 years-old to kind of mix up it a little bit.” Source: Alias Yearbook (Thanks Alias Media for the tip.)
07/09 - Sydney next year will be playing the role of handler to two new young CIA agents. These agents will be about 23 years old. Also Rambaldi will be back next year along with other mysteries. Source: Alias Magazine #10
06/17 - According to JJ, the end of season 5 is already written. Source: Kristin on E!Online
06/14 - I'm hearing Melissa George (Lauren) won't be back next season and David Anders (Sark) won't be a regular next season. Source: Kristin on E!Online
06/07 - I hear Greg Grunberg (Weiss) will be back next season, since unfortunately, his pilot, The Catch, was not picked up. Source: Kristin on E!Online
06/07 - ABC will NOT let Vaughn die. Period. JJ Abrams will NOT let Vaughn die. Period. I have it from the highest authority -- three reliable sources who guarantee that Michael Vartan IS coming back for the next season of Alias. Source: Kristin on E!Online
06/07 - The fate of Alias after season 5 has not been decided yet. Source: Kristin on E!Online
06/03 - I have it on the highest authority that Michael Vartan will be back as a series regular when Alias returns for its fifth season. The concern is when we'll see Michael--or anyone on Alias, for that matter. I'm told ABC suits didn't know of Jennifer Garner's pregnancy when they decided to renew the show (given the surprising early pickup, she probably didn't even know herself), and now the higher-ups are in something of a pickle trying to figure out when the show can return. Sadly, according to a source close to the show, it's becoming unlikely that Alias will return in the fall as planned, instead coming back at a later date. Source: Kristin on E!Online
06/01 - The plan is to have Vartan and Vaughn back next season. And from what I'm hearing about the story, you're gonna love it. I'd even go so far as to say it's awesome. Source: Ask Ausiello @ TV Guide
05/25 - From what I understand, everyone at the show is proceeding as if Season 5 will be the last. And that includes series creator J.J. Abrams. "We're sort of approaching this season as we do every season, like, 'This is it! So, let's just do the best job we can.' In that regard, I feel like it could be the last season, but there's been no indication [from ABC] like, "Wrap things up in 22!" And if such an edict were to come down from the network, J.J. assures me he'll be given enough time to script an appropriate farewell. Source: Ask Ausiello @ TV Guide
05/23 - [They are trying to get Lena Olin to appear next year.] Source: Kristin on E!Online
05/16 - In an interview with "Access Hollywood's" Shaun Robinson, "Alias" creator J.J. Abrams says that Jennifer Garner's pregnancy "will affect" how the show's fifth season will be shot. "It will affect (shooting)," said Abrams. "But I think we have overcome a lot of other issues and things. I think the show will be a little bit different because of it, but Jennifer is so excited about everything right now..."In regards to Garner's physically demanding scenes, the producer says she will probably have to take it easy this season. "I'm sure kickboxing is probably out." Source: TheFutonCritic
05/05 - J.J. Abrams Teases Alias Season Five: "Alias is actually going to see another odd seismic shift, but it seems to be par for the course for this show. I'm optimistic. I think it's a pretty cool story." Hmm, maybe Melissa George will get her wish and Lauren Reed will come back. "Alias is a show in which death has a very unspecific definition, so I love Melissa. I think she’s very talented, so I would always consider having her back." [He also adds that he hopes Season 5 will start in January.] Source: About.com
04/13 - J.J. Abrams on whether Michael Vartan will leave Alias: "The plan is to have him back." As always, interpret as you like. Source: Ask Ausiello @ TV Guide

ETA: Some of these spoilers are a little contradicting ...

Katy
08-01-2005, 03:10 PM
You might want to point out that those spoilers are in the order of newest to oldest. I think that's part of the contradiction and what makes it a bit confusing to follow. I'd suggest reading from the bottom to the top (but that could just be me)

sheartm7
08-01-2005, 03:49 PM
Oh, I thought the order was really obvious, cause the dates are right there. I just wondered how they go from saying one thing and then saying the exact opposite a month or so later.

Katy
08-01-2005, 03:57 PM
I guess I just tend to read from top to bottom (and as I can be a twit, I'll "ignore" stuff - like dates - when I realize it's not the main focus -- I'm a dork like that, what can I say). I was just saying that in that order, it made the contractions seem more, uh, contradictory (again, I'm a dork) in that if you weren't paying close attention, it seemed to flow from knowing something, to reporting a rumor.

No biggie, I tend to take all that stuff with a grain of salt anyway. But it is fun to read, so thanks for posting.

Rose
08-01-2005, 04:27 PM
I am not very excited for S5. Alias is my favorite show, and I am worried about what they will do to it.

Sazoo
08-01-2005, 05:16 PM
I guess I just tend to read from top to bottom (and as I can be a twit, I'll "ignore" stuff - like dates - when I realize it's not the main focus -- I'm a dork like that, what can I say).

I did the same thing...started reading it top to bottom & ignored the dates until about halfway through the list when I realized the farther I read the more I recognized as rumors I heard several months ago. :rolleyes:

I too am a dork. :p

But thanks for posting a summary of the rumors/spoilers, sheartm7! :D

sheartm7
08-01-2005, 05:22 PM
Sorry my post was sort of confusing. :o Didn't mean it to be. It must be the English major in me that has me paying attention to detail like that. ;) :D


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I've been watching season one over again, and it's really making me miss Will and Francie. :( It was so nice seeing Syd with good friends who didn't know (at least then) about all that she had to go through.

SQ2
08-01-2005, 08:43 PM
I've been watching season one over again, Me too! :D Actually, when Season 4 ended I really wanted to watch the pilot to look for clues and just got hooked all over again so now I'm slowly making my way through Seasons 1-4 until Season 5 starts. :) In fact I just finished episode 5 of Season 2. *sigh* Good stuff.

sarahh
08-02-2005, 04:05 AM
Just saw this post on www.spoilerfix.com regarding the two spoilers below....

After confirmation by the Alias rep at ABC, we removed some of the spoilers from Kristin's chats we posted below. According to ABC, the statements by Breen Frazier in the Post-Gazette are to be considered accurate. General Season 5 Spoilers:

07/26 - According to Alias writer Breen Frazier, Syd is pregnant with Vaughn's baby. Vaughn was investigating something with a rogue female agent. The female young trainee is going to be played by Rachel Nichols (The Inside), a male character is not cast yet. Greg Grunberg (Weiss) will leave. Mia Maestro (Nadia) and Lena Olin (Irina) will return for some episodes, but Melissa George won't. Source: Post Gazette

07/25 - Nadia will not appear next season, not even in 1 episode. I'm hearing Sloane will be evil again. And Rambaldi is out ... at least that's the plan (mandate?). I hear that Dixon might be a little, um, well, evil this season ... at least for a bit. Source: Kristin on E!Online

lawyerlee
08-02-2005, 07:55 AM
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By Kimberly Speight
Tue Aug 2, 4:34 AM ET

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French actress Elodie Bouchez is joining the cast of ABC's spy drama "Alias."

She will play Zoe Rienne, an internationally wanted criminal who, unbeknownst to Sydney (Jennifer Garner), has been secretly working with Vaughn (Michael Vartan) for several years. The fifth season premieres at 8 p.m. Sept. 29.

Bouchez has won two Cesar Awards -- France's top film honors -- for her roles in the films "Wild Reeds" and "The Dreamlife of Angels," the latter of which also earned her best actress honors at the 1998 Cannes Film Festival.

sarahh
08-02-2005, 08:29 AM
So I guess from this new casting we can assume that "Vaugh" worked for some covert French group?

stevesbabygirl
08-02-2005, 04:28 PM
I'm about halfway through season 3 right now. I wish I had saved more season 4 episodes on my TiVo. I have the last two weeks, and I have "Mirage."

sarahh
08-03-2005, 03:54 AM
VERY interesting spoilers....

08/03 - ABC president Steve McPherson told me that it's 80 percent likely that this will be Alias' final season. He also said that despite her pregnancy, Jennifer Garner will appear in every episode this season — even if that means producing fewer episodes. Finally, McPherson expects her maternity leave will result in a longer-than-usual winter hiatus, with the show going off the air at the end of November and returning sometime in March or early April. Source: Ask Ausiello @ TV Guide

08/03 - Greg Grunberg is indeed exiting the show — of his own accord. "It's just time for me to go. I'm weighing a couple great [TV] things right now" that would reunite him with his first love: comedy. As for how Alias producers plan to deal with Weiss' impending exit, Grunny promises that "it will be dramatic." Source: Ask Ausiello @ TV Guide

Does this mean that Vaughn is staying? Could Kristen at E! have been talking about Weiss and not Vaughn?

KaliLily
08-03-2005, 09:14 AM
08/03 - Greg Grunberg is indeed exiting the show — of his own accord. "It's just time for me to go. I'm weighing a couple great [TV] things right now" that would reunite him with his first love: comedy. As for how Alias producers plan to deal with Weiss' impending exit, Grunny promises that "it will be dramatic." Source: Ask Ausiello @ TV Guide [/B]


**CRY** But I love Weiss! I actually wanted him and Syd to get together when Vauigh was married to Lauren.

sarahh
08-03-2005, 05:46 PM
08/03 - Even more gripping and emotional events are in store for Sydney. After Sydney and Vaughn both survive the crash, she learns that the man she has known as Michael Vaughn is under investigation and suspected of being a double agent. She questions whether their business and personal relationship over the years had all been a lie. When Sydney discovers that she is pregnant with Vaughn's baby, she is determined to uncover the truth about him. Meanwhile, because of Jack's past betrayal by Irina, he begins to worry that his daughter may suffer the same fate as he did. He will also have to deal with the fact that he will soon become a grandfather – while still learning how to be a dad. Sloane will have to do some soulsearching of his own, as he makes an unholy alliance in his desperate fight to find a cure for Nadia – who is still in a coma. New agents will be introduced and a nefarious organization will come to light in Sydney’s life as she fights to protect her unborn child. Source: ABC

Katy
08-04-2005, 08:46 PM
wow! :eek: sounds like a great season!

sapphire
08-08-2005, 08:31 AM
I shouldn't be reading these spoilers but I couldn't help myself. Great thread.

hockeybrat
08-09-2005, 09:09 AM
I can't wait for the season to start!

sarahh
08-10-2005, 08:51 AM
Season SIX spoiler??? Garner To Leave Alias?

Though Jennifer Garner's pregnancy is being written into the show, The Insider's Marc Malkin is reporting that Ben Affleck babymamma may not be returning to Alias for a sixth season.

Can "Alias" survive without its leading lady, JENNIFER GARNER? Producers are hopeful. Source tells me that Garner has made it clear that she probably won't be returning to the show next year for a sixth season. Producers are apparently betting on this season's new co-star, RACHEL NICHOLS, to save the hit series. She plays a new spy being trained by Garner. If she's a hit, they're looking to make her the show's next star. Garner's rep didn't comment. An "Alias" rep says, "I haven't heard that so I can't confirm that."

Source:PerezHilton

sheartm7
08-10-2005, 08:58 AM
Can "Alias" survive without its leading lady, JENNIFER GARNER?

Um, I don't think so. :( I think I would loose interest, but I guess it depends on this other character.

Sazoo
08-10-2005, 08:59 AM
:eek:

SQ2
08-10-2005, 09:44 AM
I've always thought they were going to end Alias after Season 5 anyways. :confused: As long as she stays around this season, I'll be happy. I just don't think Alias could survive and be as good without her.

sheartm7
08-10-2005, 09:52 AM
Esp with Vaughn probably leaving also. :(

SQ2
08-10-2005, 10:03 AM
I still refuse to believe that Vaughn is leaving unless I hear it from ABC. :( I'm really hoping this is just a rumor and not true. Or at least that he stays for all of Season 5 and they have their cute little spy baby and get married. Then I shall be happy. :D

stevesbabygirl
08-10-2005, 03:47 PM
As much as I am obsessed with Alias, I don't think it will make it to season 6. They'd have to pull out all the stops in season 5 for that to happen.

njlorelei
08-13-2005, 09:39 PM
I have a feeling season 5 will be it's last season. Especially since it's on at yet a new night and time. :mad:

Plus I've seen a few episodes of the FOX show that the new Alias spy is on right now and I really don't find her to be much of an actress. I don't think she could hold the show on her own.

KaliLily
08-13-2005, 09:40 PM
Isn't the new slot Thursdays at 8pm? I call this the suicide timeslot for a show struggling with ratings, like Alias.

Katy
08-13-2005, 09:53 PM
Isn't the new slot Thursdays at 8pm? I call this the suicide timeslot for a show struggling with ratings, like Alias.
I've heard this slot referred to as the place where ABC puts it's shows to pasture - meaning they plan for them to end and the ratings to drop. Of course, that was also when NBC had a rockin' Thursday lineup.

KaliLily
08-13-2005, 09:56 PM
I've heard this slot referred to as the place where ABC puts it's shows to pasture - meaning they plan for them to end and the ratings to drop. Of course, that was also when NBC had a rockin' Thursday lineup.

If there's any chance Jennifer will go for a 6th season, let's just hope people tape Survivor and watch Alias!

SQ2
08-14-2005, 05:44 AM
let's just hope people tape Survivor and watch Alias!
I wish we could do that! Our VCR can't tape one show while we watch another. Survivor & Alias are our two favorite shows so I'm quite upset about the Thursday lineup. :( I think we're going to buy a new (cheap) VCR so we can tape one while watching the other. Annoying. :mad:

Sazoo
08-14-2005, 07:55 AM
If there's any chance Jennifer will go for a 6th season, let's just hope people tape Survivor and watch Alias!

Unfortunately I probably will do it the other way around - watch Survivor & tape Alias. I always feel silly taping reality shows...I feel like if I'm gonna watch them then I need to watch them when they first air. It's too easy to accidentally find out who got voted off the next day when people are talking about the show (plus I'm not good at avoiding threads on my TV shows that I haven't watched yet...but then I get mad at myself for spoiling the surprise for when I watch it later on tape).

So...even though I hate not getting to see Alias live, I think I'll probably start out the season taping it. :(

Anybody know the rest of the Thursday night TV show lineup for this fall? I also watch the Apprentice, ER & Without a Trace. I think this year Thursday is going to be the busiest night of the week for my VCR! ;)

sarahh
08-15-2005, 05:40 AM
Just heard on the radio that Michael Vartan is NOT the male actor rumored to be leaving the show this season. In fact he just signed on for another season and they even said something about him potentially getting his own spin-off.

sarahh
08-15-2005, 03:54 PM
Old spoiler...07/12 - J.J. will be bringing in a couple of rookie agents and Sydney will serve as their mentor. I'm hearing that the roles haven't been cast yet, but they're looking for an actor and an actress in their early twenties as we speak. Ok...so we know that the new female CIA agent for Season Five is Rachel Nichols, but we still had yet to hear who the new male agent was. Well, I just read this...

NEW spoiler...08/15 - Balthazar Getty is set to join the cast of "Alias" for the series' fifth season. Getty will play Thomas Grace, a new agent who joins the APO team and a man with a long history of deep cover experience. And this comes straight from the horses mouth...ABC!

Needless to say I am excited about this!! Here are some promo pics from when he was in Into the West...

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Rose
08-16-2005, 12:27 PM
What a great addition!

sarahh
08-17-2005, 10:05 AM
Good news....08/17 - Michael Vartan will be back on Alias this season. If you're asking me how many episodes he will appear in, that I cannot (and will not) reveal.Source: Ask Ausiello @ TV Guide

stevesbabygirl
08-17-2005, 03:42 PM
Oh yay! I knew it!

njlorelei
08-20-2005, 09:29 PM
Unfortunately I probably will do it the other way around - watch Survivor & tape Alias. I always feel silly taping reality shows...I feel like if I'm gonna watch them then I need to watch them when they first air. It's too easy to accidentally find out who got voted off the next day when people are talking about the show (plus I'm not good at avoiding threads on my TV shows that I haven't watched yet...but then I get mad at myself for spoiling the surprise for when I watch it later on tape).

So...even though I hate not getting to see Alias live, I think I'll probably start out the season taping it. :(

Anybody know the rest of the Thursday night TV show lineup for this fall? I also watch the Apprentice, ER & Without a Trace. I think this year Thursday is going to be the busiest night of the week for my VCR! ;)

Ditto for me. I will definitely watch Survivor and tape Alias. Since they usually have the person kicked of Survivor on The Early Show the next morning I know I'd end up seeing that and be mad if I didn't already know.

As far I remember when they announced the Fall line-ups, NBC and CBS aren't changing their Thursday night line-ups from last year so yes get your VCR(s) ready!

lawyerlee
08-23-2005, 01:18 PM
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August 23, 2005 -- FANS of Michael Vartan are frantically campaigning to save his character in ABC's "Alias" from being killed off — although it might already be too late.

Devotees of the handsome actor believe his character, Vaughn, is doomed now that his former girlfriend Jennifer Garner, the show's leading star, is married to Ben Affleck and pregnant.

After Garner split from her ex-hubby Scott Foley in March 2004, she dated Vartan for several months before ditching him for Affleck. Tension on the set was said to be high. Some believe Garner now wants Vartan gone and has pressured producers to write him out of the series.

ABC is keeping tight-lipped and refuses to disclose any details about the new season.

Now comes word from an insider that Aug. 17 was Vartan's last day of shooting, when he was supposedly killed off. Fans have banded together to create mvcampaign.com to lobby for his resurrection.

One insider said: "Many of Michael's fans feel he is being treated very poorly by ABC. He has always been a big promoter of the show, not to mention a great guy, and to have him fired in what is probably the last year of the show is unbelievable."

The Web site notes: "For the past four years many of us have invested our time, emotions and money in support of 'Alias' . . . Now, as we are about to venture into the fifth season, we find out that we may be losing one of the most integral, beloved, and interesting characters on the show.

"Many of us feel that if this were to occur, it would be showing the show, the viewers, and Mr. Vartan a huge lack of both respect and loyalty. After four years, we feel [they] deserve far more. So, we have decided to take action and do something to express our feelings to ABC."

A group of fans calling themselves "The Vartan Hos" is supporting the Web site.

ABC has been deluged with letters, e-mails and phone calls from the campaign, a network insider moaned, while the campaign is also raising money to place an ad in Variety or the Hollywood Reporter.

A rep for ABC said: "We don't comment on plots. We encourage viewers to tune in and we promise they won't be disappointed." Vartan's rep didn't return calls.

sarahh
08-23-2005, 01:46 PM
All I have to say is that if it IS in fact Vaughn that is killed off...I find it preposterous that people would say it was Jennifer who initiated his removal from the show.

Jennifer and Michael Vartan only dated for a couple of months...realized they were better off as friends and went back to being just that. Do people really think that Jennifer Garner could be so cold as to get her "ex" fired because she didn't want to work with him anymore.

Word is that Micheal and Ben actually get along quite well. I choose to believe those reports over the tabloids that say Ben and Jen have it out for Vartan.

I just find it so annoying! *stepping off soap box*

Rose
08-23-2005, 01:49 PM
All I have to say is that if it IS in fact Vaughn that is killed off...I find it preposterous that people would say it was Jennifer who initiated his removal from the show.

Honestly I can't imagine any reason to get rid of Vaughn, especially if this is the last season, so I would have no choice but to blame Jen if he is removed. :p

sarahh
08-23-2005, 01:52 PM
Honestly I can't imagine any reason to get rid of Vaughn, especially if this is the last season, so I would have no choice but to blame Jen if he is removed. :pReally?? :confused:

lawyerlee
08-23-2005, 01:55 PM
Jennifer and Michael Vartan only dated for a couple of months...realized they were better off as friends and went back to being just that. Do people really think that Jennifer Garner could be so cold as to get her "ex" fired because she didn't want to work with him anymore.
I sure don't! She's a total sweetie! I just know she has to be. :)

Even if he is killed off, it almost for sure is the last season, so I can actually see that working into the storyline, given where they left off with the cliffhanger, ya know? I can totally see that. :)

Rose
08-23-2005, 03:15 PM
Really??

I am mostly joking. :)

lawyerlee
08-23-2005, 03:43 PM
I am mostly joking. :)
OK, good! :D I was like, "Why does she hate Jen?" :( ;)

Rose
08-23-2005, 04:04 PM
OK, good! I was like, "Why does she hate Jen?"

No, I love her. (See Avatar) I would be very dissapointed if they wrote Vaughn off though.

sarahh
08-24-2005, 05:42 AM
...'Alias' Fans Fight for Vartan
Fans of hit TV series Alias have launched a campaign to save Michael Vartan's character, even though producers have failed to confirm they're killing him off. Vartan, who plays his former girlfriend Jennifer Garner's on-screen lover Michael Vaughn on the show, reportedly shot his final scenes last week, according to the New York Post. Insiders claim Vaughn will be killed off in the upcoming series, which will also see pregnant Garner coping with impending motherhood both in real life and on the crime drama. The news has prompted some fans to launch www.mvcampaign.com, which has been set up to stop any potential Vartan departure. In a posting on the fansite, one devotee states, "Many of us feel that if this were to occur, it would be showing the show, the viewers, and Mr. Vartan a huge lack of both respect and loyalty. We have decided to take action and do something to express our feelings."

sarahh
08-24-2005, 05:45 AM
No, I love her. (See Avatar) I would be very disappointed if they wrote Vaughn off though. ;)

I will be bummed too if they write him off, but I refuse to believe it was done at Jennifer's request.

On ET last night they were interviewing him and he said something to the affect of "I wish people would give us as actors more credit." He was addressing the rumors that Jen and he were having troubles working together on the set after their break-up. He said they dated for a short time but decided to stay friends and it had no negative affect on their working relationship.

KaliLily
08-24-2005, 03:16 PM
On ET last night they were interviewing him and he said something to the affect of "I wish people would give us as actors more credit."

OK, since he asked for it I'll give them more credit. :D Of course, who can blame people for believing the rumors after watching so many celebrities act like spoiled, bratty teenagers.

Rose
08-26-2005, 01:22 PM
Spoiler:

The new US magazine is reporting that Michael Vartan's last day of shooting was Aug. 17th and that he gets killed off. Sources say there are no future cameos scheduled.

I will be so mad if this is true. I've heard conflicting reports but this one just won't go away.

sheartm7
08-26-2005, 06:46 PM
Geez - they're really throwing our minds for a loop on this one. :rolleyes:

sarahh
08-29-2005, 03:54 AM
Just read this....From spoilerfix.com

We chose to post the following article because we've also noticed flat denials are not occuring like they did in previous seasons. Either the major sources concur with Vaughn's death, or they avoid the issue.

According to the super-secret script, Vartan's character is killed off in dramatic fashion in the season premiere. ''In the show, Michael is investigating some case and is set up,'' said our spy. ''He gets shot numerous times but does not die on the scene. He makes it to the hospital where he eventually dies.'' Vartan's onscreen paramour, Sydney Bristow, aka Garner, is with him when he flat-lines and has to identify his body. As promised, the writers work Garner's real-life pregnancy into the plot of the show, leaving Bristow pregnant with Vaughn's child. For the rest of the season she is on a mission to find out who killed her baby's father. Source: Boston Herald Well, if this is true at least we won't have to wait long to find out.

stevesbabygirl
09-01-2005, 09:33 PM
Only 4 more weeks until season 5 :D!

sdianems
09-02-2005, 07:05 AM
http://www.fox.com/kitchen/images/messageboard.jpg Anyone else bummed out to see the promo for the new show: Kitchen Confidential? Our "Will" is in that new show!

I know that actors hop around and it is feasible for him to appear on ALIAS, too, but it just seems so unlikely. Sigh....

sheartm7
09-02-2005, 07:07 AM
I miss Will and Francie all the time. It was nice to see Syd have friends outside of work. And Will was a hottie! :D

I can't wait for the premiere.

sarahh
09-04-2005, 05:59 PM
...New Alias Season Five Details
Source: TV Guide September 1, 2005

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/shancock/eb5870e8.jpg

While it was previously announced that Rachel Nichols and Élodie Bouchez had joined the cast of ABC's Alias for its fifth season (debuting Thursday, Sept. 29 at 8/7c), TV Guide revealed the role Balthazar Getty is playing as well.

He'll star as Thomas Grace, an APO agent who is "a little rough around the edges," says his portrayer, and thus doesn't play well with others. "It's pretty cool how they introduce my character," hints Getty of his debut in the season's second episode. "I come in fighting."

Producer Jeff Pinkner says the plan to spice up the cast with the new arrivals developed "simultaneously" with Jennifer Garner's announced pregnancy, and is not a calculated effort to cover for her understandably decreased on-screen fisticuffs. "We're not going to do anything that begs credibility anymore than we have in the past," he notes. "But if danger comes to her, she will absolutely fight it off."

The magazine adds that there will be danger in great supply as the new season picks up immediately after the car crash. The question of Vaughn's true identity and what else he was going to tell Sydney "will be answered in the first episode — or most of it will be," allows Pinkner. "The consequences reveal a new enemy who is far more pervasive and dangerous and mysterious than any we have fought before."

Wrighty26
09-04-2005, 06:02 PM
If it's any condolence-- I heard that Kitchen Confidental is actually pretty good! I too miss Will... but mainly just his pretty blue eyes :D

SQ2
09-04-2005, 07:59 PM
I'm so damn excited for Season 5!!! Three weeks from Thursday... :D

Katy
09-04-2005, 08:58 PM
The question of Vaughn's true identity and what else he was going to tell Sydney "will be answered in the first episode — or most of it will be," allows Pinkner. "The consequences reveal a new enemy who is far more pervasive and dangerous and mysterious than any we have fought before."

oooooo can't wait! :D

carrie9142
09-04-2005, 10:04 PM
I love Alias, but have stayed out of this thread for fear of spoilers ;)

TNT is starting to show Alias reruns on...um, I forgot. But soon! I am excited :D

And I too am very glad the whole Vaughn thing will be explained on the first episode!!! When does the season start? I haven't seen anything.

sarahh
09-05-2005, 03:57 AM
When does the season start? I haven't seen anything.It's Thursday, September 29th at 8PM. :cool:

KaliLily
09-06-2005, 08:51 AM
For anyone who has missed the early days of Alias (and doesn't have the DVDs), TNT will start airing Alias later this month at 6pm.

Katy
09-06-2005, 01:46 PM
For anyone who has missed the early days of Alias (and doesn't have the DVDs), TNT will start airing Alias later this month at 6pm.
Good to know as 1) I was already caught up on all the past Charmed episodes and 2) I loved the early episodes :D

sarahh
09-18-2005, 06:25 AM
A few pics from the Season Premiere!

http://images.snapfish.com/344%3A27%3A723232%7Ffp64%3Dot%3E2327%3D524%3D397%3 DXROQDF%3E2323%3A%3B75548%3C7ot1lsi

http://images.snapfish.com/344%3A27%3A723232%7Ffp45%3Dot%3E2327%3D524%3D397%3 DXROQDF%3E2323%3A%3B755426%3Aot1lsi
Looks like they gave her some extra padding, as this was taped back in early July (or August, I forget). Probably to maintain consistency??

http://images.snapfish.com/344%3A27%3A723232%7Ffp7%3Enu%3D3236%3E433%3E2%3A6% 3EWSNRCG%3D3232%3B%3A8463355nu0mrj
Yummy Balthazar Getty as the newest agent! :p

Source: Alias-Media

Wrighty26
09-18-2005, 07:50 AM
Yay! I'm getting so excited :)


I'm not crazy about Balthazar's mustache....ummm, hopefully that part of an undercover costume??? Hee.

stevesbabygirl
09-18-2005, 12:44 PM
Augh, look how cute she is :D! I'm so excited! Only a week and a half more!

stevesbabygirl
09-18-2005, 07:44 PM
So, I'm watching Pearl Harbor on ABC right now. Aside from the fact that our beloved Jennifer Garner is in it, I also found another Alias character there too! Do you guys remember Paul Kelvin, who filled in for Schiller in "Doppelganger" from season 1? The whole Badenweiler thing? Well, he's in this movie too! He's one of the Cabinet members at Roosevelt's table.

stevesbabygirl
09-18-2005, 07:46 PM
Oh yeah, and I made this little icon too because I was bored:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/stevesbabygirl/Alias%20icons/knockmeup.jpg

sarahh
09-18-2005, 07:51 PM
I'm sorry...but how did Patricia freakin' Arquette (a HORRIBLE actress in my opinion) win the Emmy for Best Actress in a Drama over Jennifer? I just don't get it!

Wrighty26
09-18-2005, 07:53 PM
I'm sorry...but how did Patricia freakin' Arquette (a HORRIBLE actress in my opinion) win the Emmy for Best Actress in a Drama over Jennifer? I just don't get it!

MY EXACT THOUGHT. I was so annoyed I turned off the TV. I'm SOOOO over stupid award shows (I'll be REALLY pissed if Lost doesn't win....)

jeepgirl
09-19-2005, 08:39 AM
Stevesbabygirl - love the icon... only... "Vaughn knocked me up... or was it Ben? No... Vaughn... Ben? I'm confused!" :p I'm such a brat!

hockeybrat
09-19-2005, 08:54 AM
I'm sorry...but how did Patricia freakin' Arquette (a HORRIBLE actress in my opinion) win the Emmy for Best Actress in a Drama over Jennifer? I just don't get it!

I haven't seen that show but I agree, she isn't a good actress. And her hair looked horrible last night!

sheartm7
09-19-2005, 08:57 AM
I haven't seen that show but I agree, she isn't a good actress. And her hair looked horrible last night!
Actually, I think she's great and "Medium" is an awesome show. I would of been happy if Jen had won, or even Mariska Hargitay, but I'm still happy for Patricia. :)

SQ2
09-19-2005, 09:17 AM
Heather ~ I love your icon! :D That is so cute.

I too was bummed Jen didn't win. :( She looked amazing though. :)

stevesbabygirl
09-19-2005, 11:19 AM
jeepgirl,

Haha :D! It was hard enough to get "Vaughn knocked me up" in there! I centered it way too much :p.

sheartm7
09-21-2005, 10:27 AM
I just felt the need to bump this, since the premiere is in EIGHT days! :D

SQ2
09-21-2005, 10:31 AM
Yipeeee! I'm so excited I might pee my pants. ;) Seriously, I've been waiting for this season for so long! :D

jeepgirl
09-22-2005, 04:56 PM
Does anyone know if they are going to "re-air" the season four finale before airing the premiere next week?

stevesbabygirl
09-23-2005, 05:34 PM
Highly doubtful :(.

Only 6 more days :eek: :D!

KaliLily
09-24-2005, 09:08 AM
According to my DirecTV channel guide, TNT will start with Season 4 when it begins airing Alias at 6pm on weekdays, starting Monday. I noticed UPN is also airing Alias, but they are starting at Season 1.

stevesbabygirl
09-27-2005, 11:00 AM
Only 2 more days ladies :D!

And guess where I'm going tonight? I'm going to a taping of The Tonight Show! And guess who the special guest is? JENNIFER GARNER! That's right folks, I'm going to see Miss Hot and Pregnant herself, in the flesh! My friend Scott scored some tickets for it, and I'm so excited!

Sazoo
09-27-2005, 12:30 PM
Only 2 more days ladies :D!

And guess where I'm going tonight? I'm going to a taping of The Tonight Show! And guess who the special guest is? JENNIFER GARNER! That's right folks, I'm going to see Miss Hot and Pregnant herself, in the flesh! My friend Scott scored some tickets for it, and I'm so excited!
:eek:

Awsome! How exciting...have fun, & be sure to come tell us all about it tomorrow!

sheartm7
09-27-2005, 12:33 PM
Only 2 more days ladies :D!

And guess where I'm going tonight? I'm going to a taping of The Tonight Show! And guess who the special guest is? JENNIFER GARNER! That's right folks, I'm going to see Miss Hot and Pregnant herself, in the flesh! My friend Scott scored some tickets for it, and I'm so excited!

Wow, I'm SO jealous. Have a wonderful time, and be sure to give us all the details. :D

SQ2
09-27-2005, 01:53 PM
That's so funny because I was just about to come post here and say that Jennifer will be on the Tonight Show this evening! Lucky girl, Heather!! Hope you have a blast. Tell us all about it tomorrow! :D I'm wicked jealous too. :p

sarahh
09-27-2005, 04:47 PM
I am so freaking jealous Heather! Jennifer is my girl crush and I would give anything to see her in person!! :o :D

stevesbabygirl
09-27-2005, 06:58 PM
The taping was so cool! If you guys get a chance to see it, I'm on the left hand side (Jay's right) wearing my red short-sleeved Alias shirt, about five rows back if you count the chairs that aren't bolted down. Jay did a segment where the audience asked questions, and I'm sitting 5 seats down from the last guy to ask a question.

Jennifer was so cute, very pregnant, in a little black dress and fairly high heels. At one point, Jay asked her if the baby was a boy or a girl, and she said that it was one or the other. However, later she started to say "she" but covered her mouth, got all wide-eyed, and stopped herself. This leads me to believe one of two things: 1 - She really didn't want anyone to know she's having a girl, even though she let it slip during the Emmy's too, or 2 - She's really having a boy, and is trying to throw us off. I'm wondering if they're going to cut that part of the segment out. Anyway, the taping was super cool, and after everything was done, I yelled out to Jennifer, "Jennifer, we love you!" and she turned around and said "thank you!" Woo hoo, Jennifer Garner talked to me :D!

sheartm7
09-27-2005, 07:38 PM
Aw! I think Jen is having a GIRL! :D

stevesbabygirl
09-28-2005, 10:32 PM
It's tomorrow, it's tomorrow :D :D :D :D :D!

Katy
09-28-2005, 11:33 PM
Ellen gave her some clothes as a gift - she duplicated two Syd outfits. With the pink hair, leather pants (skirt?) outfit, Ellen flat out said something like "for your mother daughter look alike days" or "like mother like daughter" type of thing. Jen kinda gave her a look like "you just said that", but went along with it otherwise.

So like others have said, it's either a big ruse so we *think* it's going to be a girl, or it really *is* a girl.

sheartm7
09-29-2005, 11:43 AM
It's on tonight! :D

http://a.abc.com/primetime/alias/images/ai/home/home_main_jg.jpg

In the season premiere episode, after learning that the man she has known as Michael Vaughn is under investigation and suspected of being a double agent, Sydney begins to question whether their business and personal relationship over the years had all been a lie. When she discovers that she's pregnant with Vaughn's baby, she becomes determined to uncover the truth about him. Meanwhile, because of Jack's past betrayal by Irina, he begins to worry that his daughter may suffer the same fate that he did.

This season, new agents will be introduced and a nefarious organization will come to light in Sydney's life as she fights to protect her unborn child -- all the while traveling incognito, outsmarting the bad guys and keeping the world safe.

Source: ABC (http://abc.go.com/primetime/alias/index.html)

stevesbabygirl
09-29-2005, 12:01 PM
Yay, only 8 more hours :D!

Regina Phalange
09-29-2005, 05:46 PM
Holy Crap!! More to come after the episode's over.

SPOILER BELOW......


ETA: What the??? What are they going to do with Vaughn? What are WE going to do without him? Sydney has loved him for so long and they are so cute together. I cried like a little baby..not going to lie.

Great season opener!!

Katy
09-29-2005, 05:57 PM
Oh shoot! It's on already out on the eastcoast?!?! Guess I officially need to stay out of this thread until I've seen it.

Can't wait!

sheartm7
09-29-2005, 06:02 PM
WOW ... definitely will wait til it's aired everywhere. :eek:

eli1126
09-29-2005, 06:14 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek: Can't wait to see what everyone else thought!!
Happy Watching to those on the West Coast!

Beth

Wrighty26
09-29-2005, 06:42 PM
All I can say is WELL DONE.

Some people may be pissed-- but I definitely see a new life...

sarahh
09-29-2005, 07:06 PM
I admit...I cried like a baby too. Vaughn and Syd just don't do it for me like Seasons One and Two. The whole Lauren thing and him moving on so quickly soured me on him.

I was more sad over the fact that Syd is devastated once again. This is the second fiance she has lost tragically. I was so sad that they had just learned that she was pregnant and BAM...he's dead. Really struck a nerve I guess.

However...I'm not ruling out the fact that Vaughn's not really dead. Maybe the guy who got shot was an imposter? Maybe they faked his heart failure in the hospital? I dunno....I just never rule anything out with Alias.

vjel
09-29-2005, 07:18 PM
I don't think Vaughn is really dead. I also think they faked it to keep him safe. Sydney wasn't exactly boo-hooing at the funeral, you know?

So what's the deal w/ Project 5 (is that what it's called, can't remember)? Vaughn's NOT a double agent right? got distracted a little during the show so not sure if I missed something.

SQ2
09-29-2005, 07:51 PM
SPOILER
















I don't think I've ever cried so hard at a TV show. :( It's embarassing....almost. However...I'm not ruling out the fact that Vaughn's not really dead. Maybe the guy who got shot was an imposter? Maybe they faked his heart failure in the hospital? I dunno....I just never rule anything out with Alias.I don't think Vaughn is really dead. I also think they faked it to keep him safe. Sydney wasn't exactly boo-hooing at the funeral, you know?I'm holding onto hope that he's really not dead. Syd's had a funeral already and she's still alive so why not Vaughn? Remember in Season 3 when they were in Korea and were about to be shot by the firing squad? They said that "we always find each other". They found each other after Syd died so I'm hopeful the same could happen here. I agree with sarahh, not going to rule anything out. This is Alias, and crazy things happen. Maybe he's not really dead and he'll come back just in time for the birth of their baby. Who knows.

However, if he IS actually dead I thought they handled it poorly. It was way too fast and too contrived. It left me feeling sick to my stomach. (Or maybe it's cause I was crying so much - hehe.) Here we are all happy for them that they are engaged and about to get married and having a baby. They've been through so much together and then to have it all pulled out from under them just like that in the very first episode? Vjel, I totally agree - Syd didn't seem upset enough. It was really weird. The whole episode was weird. So much information all at once and half of it didn't make sense. I felt jerked around so much, if that makes any sense. One minute they're in a car accident, the next they're split apart and then brought back together and find out they're having a baby and then he's killed, then the funeral, and then 4 months later Syd's just back in action? It just doesn't make sense. At the beginning of Season 3 when Syd got upset at Vaughn for not trying hard enough to find her when she died...maybe she'll try to do the same? But then, DH thinks they tried hard to make sure we knew he was dead who knows. Hey, Sloane came back to life after getting the death penalty...Maybe Syd and Jack faked his death somehow? I know, I'm stretching here, but still. It can't be true. :( If he really is gone then something sketchy is going on, I mean, I feel like the writers of the show could have done a better job with his exit than killing him off in the first episode. Maybe he (Michael Vartan) really wanted out? I dunno...must go to bed and quit overanalyzing. :rolleyes:

*sigh*

Well...here's to seeing what happens next week!

stevesbabygirl
09-29-2005, 09:12 PM
WTF?! Not even one episode :(?! I couldn't even cry, I think I was just so numb about the whole thing. Normally, I would bawl my eyes out at something like this, but something is preventing that from happening. Either I'm in denial, or I had just known for so long that this was going to happen that I prepared myself for it.

stevesbabygirl
09-29-2005, 09:24 PM
vjel, it's called Prophet Five.

melnv
09-29-2005, 09:46 PM
WTF?! Not even one episode :(?!

ditto. I cried though. Sarah Mclachlan got to me. (unless that wasn't her music)

sarahh
09-30-2005, 04:06 AM
Quote from JJ Abrams regarding this season...
"Alias is, perhaps typically, a puzzle this year," Abrams said. "The Vaughn storyline is not what it seems, but that's all I can say, or the writers will kill me. They know where I live."Hmmmmm...interesting. Could mean anything though!!

jeanine
09-30-2005, 04:44 AM
Last night's ep left me feeling kind of numb - which is a term that some of you also used. After all of those rumors, I couldn't believe that they actually killed him off in the first episode, and I keep thinking that they faked his death because, well - its Alias, and those kind of things happen on this show. If he is dead though - WTF! I agree it could have been doen better. At least they cleared up that he wasn't some evil double agent.

DH was really annoyed with last nights show. Through the whole show - "how do all of these bad people manage to infiltrate the CIA ~ especially the "super secret" division." I guess he has a point - considering no one in the CIA was even supposed to know about them. (So how did the guy that killed Vaughn actually get into the office if he wasn't even in the CIA??) I had to remind him that it was a tv show, and that Alias isn't exactly realistic.

Wrighty26
09-30-2005, 04:56 AM
I had to remind him that it was a tv show, and that Alias isn't exactly realistic.

Heh. I have to remind my DH of this also. Honestly, if it were realistic- Syd would be the WORST SPY EVER!

I guess I did a good job of "preparing" myself for Vaughn's departure. I wasn't shocked--just sad. I too don't think that will be the last we see of Vaughn OR Michael Vartan, but I could be very, very wrong! (He's still listed as part of the cast on the ABC website-- we'll see how long that lasts!).

ETA: From Watch with Kristen on Eonline (message boards) (Kinda a spoiler)

Ok, so now you KNOW. Vaughn is dead. And I think you can see now why I tried to prep you a bit ... It was devastatingly, shockingly HEARTBREAKING, was it not?

This is what I have to say: Yes, of course, M. Vartan will be truly missed. But I didn't HATE the episode -- thought it was the start of what could be a great season, actually.

And, here's the part you really want to hear: I'm 99 percent certain that although Michael Vartan might no longer be a series regular, this is NOT the last we will see of him on Alias.

Now, can I have a hug?"

jeepgirl
09-30-2005, 05:33 AM
My reaction was totally numb and... disbelief. I don't believe it, I fully expect that it was staged, especially after Sydney told her dad she was pregnant and he said he would do what he could. And did you get that they had located some guy who evidently died or something but there is no record of him??? Yeah... I'm thinking whatever that guy's name was is going to be Vaughn's new name, identity, etc. Did anyone else get that? Did it sound like it could go that direction, or was that about something else?

Anywho... that's my guess... I think that's what Jack was working on.

As for the possibility of Vaughn really being dead... well... romance is one element of the show that I think really makes me love it. This would be the second man she has lost and I just don't see her getting over Vaughn and finding a new love right away, so, without Vaughn there may not be any "love" of Sydney's life... unless they brought Will back to kind of help "stabilize" her... hehe.... :) I can wish can't I??! :D

sheartm7
09-30-2005, 05:48 AM
Numb is a great word to decsribe how I felt also. When they started shooting multiple bullets into Vaughn's chest, I couldn't believe it. And I know Alias isn't realistic, but geez, how could he even survive for a minute after those guys were done with him?! :eek: And when he saw the other guy get shot first, why didn't he just make a run for it? He's been in crazier situations before.

Again - must remind myself it's just a show. :) It'd be great if it turned out the whole thing was staged ...

And jeepgirl, I am right there with ya with bringing Will back. :D

cowgirl
09-30-2005, 05:55 AM
I was a bit shocked at last nights show.

Jeepgirl I think the guy that killed Vaughn was suppose to be dead according to cia records.

Should be an iteresting season.

vjel
09-30-2005, 06:08 AM
Through the whole show - "how do all of these bad people manage to infiltrate the CIA ~ especially the "super secret" division." I guess he has a point - considering no one in the CIA was even supposed to know about them. (So how did the guy that killed Vaughn actually get into the office if he wasn't even in the CIA??)

I said the same thing! I mean this guy was presumed dead, I think, and all of a sudden he just walks into the CIA?!?! I don't think so. :rolleyes: I know it's tv and all but still...

SQ2
09-30-2005, 06:17 AM
You ladies have nailed it on the head. I was searching for the right word for how I felt last night and 'numb' is a perfect description.

jeepgirl
09-30-2005, 06:32 AM
Jeepgirl I think the guy that killed Vaughn was suppose to be dead according to cia records.

Ohhhhh... I knew I had gotten a little distracted at that point (there were 3 of us watching it and ONE of us was talking! i really should get tivo...). Hmmm... but how come Dixon was saying something about "as soon as Vaughn is medically stable we can go forward" (or something like that?). What did I miss? :confused:

KaliLily
09-30-2005, 06:38 AM
I had to remind him that it was a tv show, and that Alias isn't exactly realistic.

My DH is always grumbling about how unrealistic Alias is. Yeah, and his shows are right on the money? (Stargate, Battlestar Gallactica, Lost) With regard to the SciFi, I guess if something doesn't exist IRL you can't critique it for being unrealistic. :p

I have to admit I was shocked when Vaughn was shot and died in the hospital. I figured if he was going to die it would have been in the car accident, so once he survived the opening I figured the rumor had been wrong. :eek:

I was very happy that he didn't die in the accident, leaving the season to be about figuring out who he was and what he had been doing. I think this will be an interesting year. I'm hooked again.

KaliLily
09-30-2005, 06:41 AM
but how come Dixon was saying something about "as soon as Vaughn is medically stable we can go forward" (or something like that?). What did I miss? :confused:

I think he was saying that once Vaughn was stable they could move him to the US (or maybe a military base hospital in the area).

SQ2
09-30-2005, 06:57 AM
Here's a thought...if there wasn't some important purpose to Vaughn's "death" why didn't they just kill him in the crash? I think there is definitely more to it than we think.

vjel
09-30-2005, 07:40 AM
if there wasn't some important purpose to Vaughn's "death" why didn't they just kill him in the crash? I think there is definitely more to it than we think.


i think they didn't kill him initially in the crash b/c they (the bad guys) wanted him to decrypt that message they found in the battery. remember after the crash they had Vaughn in that interrogation room...then when the guy was trying to reset his shoulder so Vaughn could write the message, Vaughn kicked his ass and got away.

Regina Phalange
09-30-2005, 07:42 AM
The more I think about the way Sydney and her dad kept looking at eachother after Vaughn flatlined and after they put his casket in the herst, the more I think there was some kind of unspoken code going on.

They are up to something. I don't think we've seen the last of him....at least I HOPE we haven't.

I bet the writers were sitting around thinking "If we kill off Vaughn people will begin to speculate that he isn't dead because 'its Alias and people never really die.' So we can actually kill him off and then go the entire season with people hanging onto hope that he will come back, but he never will." :p

This show can drive a person nuts with all the second guessing it causes.

hockeybrat
09-30-2005, 08:37 AM
Wow, that was a great episode. I hope Vaughn isn't dead either.

I too kept thinking how did this guy get into APO if he isn't really an agent? Will that endanger APO now?

lawyerlee
09-30-2005, 08:46 AM
I definitely don't think Vaughn is dead. The way he looked back at her when he walked away from the car was like he knew he wouldn't see her again for a really long time. :( Still, I bawled like a baby. I'm so sad for Syd. :(

SQ2
09-30-2005, 09:06 AM
The way he looked back at her when he walked away from the car was like he knew he wouldn't see her again for a really long time.

ITA. And the looks that Jack and Syd gave each other both in the hospital and at the funeral - there's something we're not being told yet but I have a feeling they know what's going on and know that he's coming back. But, you're right, it may not be until the middle or end of the season. :( I swear, it was something in that drink that she gave him, something similar to what Jack gave Sloane in Season 3 before he was "executed".

ktdelsur
09-30-2005, 10:46 AM
Yeah, he just can't be dead. :(

But, they DID have a casket and everything - showing a big deal about an actual funeral, etc. Granted, it wasn't an OPEN casket.

Just the fact that I'm PG right now and I even teared up when they were in the car together talking about the baby and he said, "I can't wait to meet this little person..."...so his dying while she's pregnant just broke my heart.
:(

I wonder if they'll pull out all the "clone" stuff again. I don't think that's the case in Vaughn's situation, but I'm interested to see how this works into the story - I KNEW he was French. He always was so proficient and did so well in their dealings w/ the french language, etc etc, we guessed he was a spy for French intelligence somehow. LOL

Another vote for bringing back Will Tippin!

lawyerlee
09-30-2005, 11:12 AM
Some stuff from TVGuide.com:

Ask Ausiello (http://www.tvguide.com/News/AskAusiello/default.htm?rmDate=09212005)
Question: Everybody is talking about what they can't say about Michael Vartan's rumored exit from Alias. My question is, what can you say? — Stephanie

Ausiello: A lot more than I could a week ago, Steph. Shortly after picking up his first Emmy ever for directing the killer Lost pilot, J.J. Abrams finally broke his silence about the firestorm ignited by Vaughn's alleged forthcoming death, including reports that Vartan's ex, Jennifer Garner, engineered the whole thing in a plot to remove him from the show. And here's the best part: It's a bloody AA exclusive!!!

First off, J.J. hinted that rumors of Vaughn's whacking have been greatly exaggerated: "It ain't over till the fat lady sings," he teased. "You have to see what the story is. And when I said at the beginning of the year that [Vartan] is back this season, I wasn't lying. So, in the way that Alias does things that you might not expect — in a way that you might not expect — it's typical of that. The conclusion people are coming to isn't exactly what it is."

And what of tabloid trash that Jen pressured ABC and Alias producers (Abrams included) to dump Vartan? "When you read that no one on the set is allowed to look at her in the eyes, you can't help but laugh at that," he said. "It's so preposterous that it's one of those things that doesn't even warrant a response because it's so silly. When people achieve a certain status, it is inevitable that they are the ones who become the targets. But I think there are very few voices who are saying this. The majority of people who really care about the show and about Vartan are not the people who are indiscriminately attacking Jennifer Garner. The majority of [Alias fans] really do, and rightfully so, appreciate Michael Vartan. And I hope they keep watching. And I would say one thing: Watch carefully, because there are clues as to what's going to happen in the episodes. And if [Vaughn] happens not to be in the episode that you're watching, it doesn't mean he's not part of it." In other words, it may very well be time for everyone to chill the heck out and enjoy the freakin' ride!

In the News (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Entertainment/)
IF YOU CAN TAKE THE HEAT...: Alias spy-hottie Michael Vartan — whose Vaughn character appeared to bite it on last night's season premiere — is reuniting with former costar Bradley Cooper for an upcoming episode of Fox's Kitchen Confidential. According to Fox, Vartan will play Michaux, er, Michel, a womanizing French chef and rival to Cooper's Jack. Meanwhile, if you're feeling blue about Vaughn's apparent demise, take a deep breath and repeat after me: "No one ever dies on Alias. No one ever dies on Alias. No one ever dies on Alias."

I highly doubt Will is coming back because he's doing Kitchen Confidential on FOX. Not that anyone is watching. But it's pretty funny. It comes on after Arrested Development on Monday nights. :)

carrie9142
09-30-2005, 05:31 PM
Y'all.

There is just no way Vaughn is dead. I refuse to believe it. Refuse. This is Alias, people!

Also, I got to thinking about what some people have posted about the way Sydney and Jack were looking at each other during these moments...anyone remember that one episode (S1 I think) when they were communicating Morse codes through blinking? Maybe those long stares were blinks of "Vaughn is ok!"

Wishful thinking, no?

Also-Sydney is the kiss of death for fiances!! She gets engaged and BOOM! Dead fiance.

Also-does no one check records? Dude walks up and tells you he needs all your info on Vaughn and no one makes a phone call to Langley? Crappy spies.

cc8
09-30-2005, 05:49 PM
I am a HUGE HUGE fan of Alias. I had recorded the season opener on Tivo and just watched it. I was pretty disappointed but I'm not exactly sure why. Vaughn's death was way too abrupt. I don't think they developed the story behind his identity enough and then BOOM - he's dead? Is this entire season going to be about Sydney avenging the supposed death of Vaughn? Please, that is so un-original!

On an un-related note, I love Victor Garber's character - he rocks!

ejs
09-30-2005, 06:16 PM
I had recorded the season opener on Tivo and just watched it. I was pretty disappointed but I'm not exactly sure why.

I'm right there with you. When the episode ended, DH and I were like, "eh." DH even went so far to say Alias has jumped the shark. I love this show and hope it reels me in again this season.

I don't think Vaughn is dead. But the show has already done the "make someone appear dead and have them come back later" thing. It will be disappointing if they do it again.

I also can't imagine a really pregnant Sydney. The show has been so action-packed; will it now be more mental and strategic, instead of physical?

sheartm7
09-30-2005, 07:09 PM
Wasn't it so obvious that Garner was pregnant in the premiere? They did a good job covering up her tummy. And I think the flash forward 4 months was just so they could start filming all of her body.

Okay, now I'm not sure what to believe about Vaughn's death. I think about Lauren, and how she really was dead, even though there was lots of spectulation. I guess that's the beauty of Alias - ya just never know.

And it's great to see so many more Alias fans posting! :)

sdianems
10-01-2005, 04:54 PM
Wasn't it so obvious that Garner was pregnant in the premiere? They did a good job covering up her tummy. And I think the flash forward 4 months was just so they could start filming all of her body.


Totally agree! Her boobs/cleavage were huge!!!! And they kept hiding her belly.

I'm also bummed about the whole Vaughn/not-Vaughn thing, but this episode did feel a bit like the old Alias to me. The one season when JJ was off preparing LOST it was just a mess, but this seems to be picking up steam to me.
IMHO

sheartm7
10-01-2005, 05:01 PM
The one season when JJ was off preparing LOST it was just a mess, but this seems to be picking up steam to me.
IMHO
Which season was that?

Regina Phalange
10-06-2005, 06:04 PM
Oh man - I can't wait to talk about this one. I have one burning question!!

Southlooper
10-06-2005, 06:14 PM
I think the dead body is Vaughn.

Also, does it seem like they are introducing all these new characters ot possibly keep Alias going without Jennifer Gardner? I read somewhere that this was her last season now that she's going to be a mommy.

Wrighty26
10-06-2005, 06:17 PM
I actually didn't mind our very first "Vaughnless" episode! Yes, it was still sad-- and Weiss leaving on top of that doesn't help (honestly- I think I may miss him more than Vaughn-- maybe it's a Felicity thing), but it was intriguing and Bathlazar Getty...lookin pretty good so far :)

What's your question FutureGallucci?

Wrighty26
10-06-2005, 06:19 PM
Also, does it seem like they are introducing all these new characters ot possibly keep Alias going without Jennifer Gardner? I read somewhere that this was her last season now that she's going to be a mommy.

She's contracted until 2007... that doesn't mean anything though (Michael Vartan- good example). Though, I don't know if I would watch is she wasn't on....

Regina Phalange
10-06-2005, 06:24 PM
Well last week when I said something early I was flamed for saying anything before people all over the nation could see the show...so I wasn't going to give anything away but.....

My question is....Could it be Vaughn frozen? But wasn't the person's hair gray and the hands looked old. Could freezing change the way a person appears?

sarahh
10-06-2005, 06:38 PM
Maybe it was Vaugh's father?

jeepgirl
10-06-2005, 08:32 PM
Ooooh! Good thought! Maybe its Vaughn's father! That actually makes sense. Maybe that will be Sydney's continuing "connection" with Vaughn, through her child and Vaughn's father? Hmm....

But, I feel the need to vent. Overall, I am NOT HAPPY! It really seems like Vaughn is really dead (I don't think its Vaughn's body in the coffin). And now Weiss??? I can't bear to lose him too! I already had to lose Will! And that about killed me. Nope, I am NOT HAPPY. :( If they keep this up I'm afraid I might lose interest in the show. I know I should be more open minded about the new characters, but I can't help it if I'm loyal!!! :p

SQ2
10-06-2005, 09:00 PM
Maybe it's Rambaldi! :D Hehehehe....

This episode felt so empty without Vaughn but man, Jennifer Garner kicked a$$ with her acting, especially in the Syd-Jack scene. Loved that one. Definitely got a bit teary. I felt very lonely right along with Sydney. Vaughn's gone (hopefully not for good) and now Weiss? :( What ever happened to him and Nadia?

stevesbabygirl
10-06-2005, 09:36 PM
I totally thought it was Vaughn, but good call on Vaughn's father!

Oh God, I LOVED the scene between Sydney and Jack, so sweet!

ejs
10-06-2005, 10:53 PM
Michael Vartan was not in the credits, so I'm not sure if that means anything or not. Is JJ Abrams being clever or is he really gone?

Wrighty26
10-07-2005, 02:34 AM
Michael Vartan has left the show as a regular-- the last I heard, they were trying to bring him back for future episodes, but they are waiting on HIM.

As for Weiss-- it's been publicly known for quite some time that Greg Grunberg was leaving. I think he actually got a starring role in a midseason replacement comedy. As fo