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Don't worry, Heather. I thought the same thing! ;)
And Evil Francie! Syd is going to kick her *ss!!
Actually it's Anna Espinosa in the commerical.
kwsu44
04-22-2006, 06:51 PM
I think I read somewhere that Merrin Dungey (AKA Evil Francie) was confirmed for at least one episode.
KaliLily
04-23-2006, 03:50 PM
I think I read somewhere that Merrin Dungey (AKA Evil Francie) was confirmed for at least one episode.
Oh, I was so hoping Merrin would be back!
sarahh
04-26-2006, 02:40 PM
Don't forget...Alias is on tonight at 8pm. And WILL is back! :D
Yay! :D Can't wait. (Love the new avatar, sarahh!)
sarahh
04-26-2006, 02:48 PM
Thanks! ;) I figured I would change it from a Lost icon to an Alias icon in honor of the last episodes of the series.
L'il Bit
04-26-2006, 10:18 PM
Are we allowed to talk about it yet?
I heart Will!
Sazoo
04-26-2006, 10:56 PM
Are we allowed to talk about it yet?
I heart Will!Sure! I loved Will too - it was so great to see him with Sydney again. I feel sort of sad for her because she doesn't have any "real" friends in her day-to-day life anymore. Will mentioned it's been 2 years since they've spoken. :(
As for tonight's show, I have to say that I wasn't impressed with some of the special effects & totally implausable things that happened. The worst, IMO, was the scene where Anna threw the detonator remote off the train & Sydney & Will jumped off after it. Not only did they survive the fall without a scratch, but somehow Sydney found the remote under the water...not to mention that it still WORKED after being dropped into the water to begin with. It's an electrical device, right? Don't you think maybe it wouldn't work anymore after getting water-logged? :rolleyes:
Aside from that though, great episode! I loved the 2 agents who came over to make Syd's apartment baby-safe & watch over her baby while she was on her mission. :)
Wrighty26
04-27-2006, 05:35 AM
My favorite line from the episode: "Who's Rimbaldi??" Hee!
As for tonight's show, I have to say that I wasn't impressed with some of the special effects & totally implausable things that happened.
See-- I think that could be said for every episode-- but I also think that's part of the fun! I think to myself "What silly predicament is Sydney going to get herself into this week that is TOTALLY unbelievable..."
I almost started crying (blame it on pregnancy hormones) every time Will and Sydney had a scene together. It's so funny how I really hated Bradley Cooper's character at first, and then I just grew to love him!
I always love a good girlfight-- and Anna/Sydney never disappoint! Nothing like them beating the crap out of each other...
All in all- I think it was a GREAT episode...
KaliLily
04-27-2006, 07:56 AM
As for tonight's show, I have to say that I wasn't impressed with some of the special effects & totally implausable things that happened.
Oh Sarah, you just have to suspend your mind from reality. ;)
sarahh
04-27-2006, 08:27 AM
See...I didn't mind the whole jumping from the train thing. Like others have siad...when has Alias been completely believable?
I was soooo disappointed in the scene at Syd's house when the "babysitters" arrived. I literally groaned out loud. I HATED the whole scene!
I mean, the whole case with the baby supplies in it and trying waayyy to hard to make the scene funny. I thought it was pretty lame. I was sooo hoping that when Syd opened the door it was going to Marshall and his wife. It would have been much more "Alias".
L'il Bit
04-27-2006, 08:27 AM
The worst, IMO, was the scene where Anna threw the detonator remote off the train & Sydney & Will jumped off after it. Not only did they survive the fall without a scratch, but somehow Sydney found the remote under the water...not to mention that it still WORKED after being dropped into the water to begin with.
I know, I kind of felt that way too with that particular part. But remember at the end of last season? Syd and Vaughn jumped from an airplane to fly towards that big red ball thingy. Kinda unbelievable. Also unbelievable? That the giant baby they were holding was 5 weeks old... clearly older than my son who is 6 months old.
I DO love how Syd was able to kick Anna's a$$ at the train... just 5 weeks after having a baby!:p I was barely able to climb the stairs with any speed.
I also loved the agent babysitters. They were great. Their big official suitcases with all the baby stuff in it. And how the one guy was able to calm Isabelle down with no problems.
Oh! I also thought it was funny when Will was like, "Syd?!? My head's beeping!!"
hockeybrat
04-27-2006, 09:33 AM
So now there is a fake Syd running around. Did we just see the Helix Protocol?
Great episode!
Great episode! But, yeah, I'm not super keen on the whole doubling thing happening again. It's getting a little old. It's like they can't think of another way to tell the story. Oh well it will still be awesome! Can't wait for next week.
ihearttx
04-27-2006, 10:04 AM
Um, did anyone else think Syd's "5 week old" baby looked a wee bit large? She looked the size of my kid who is 8 months old!
KaliLily
04-27-2006, 12:06 PM
I was soooo disappointed in the scene at Syd's house when the "babysitters" arrived. I literally groaned out loud. I HATED the whole scene!
Really? I loved it. I thought, "COOL! Federal Agent babysitters!" When I have kids, I gotta get me some of those! :)
KaliLily
04-27-2006, 12:09 PM
Great episode! But, yeah, I'm not super keen on the whole doubling thing happening again. It's getting a little old. It's like they can't think of another way to tell the story. Oh well it will still be awesome! Can't wait for next week.
Since Syd can't be the woman in the prophesy, this makes sense. Now Anna has Syd's DNA, which was documented on Page 47, and looks like the woman in the photo. And she's evil enough to try to bring about the end of the world. :) I just wonder if "The Horizon" has something to do with resolving the Anna situation, and Irina was stealing it to protect Sydney down the road.
jesseybell
04-27-2006, 12:58 PM
Thankfully I looked at TV guide last night because I would have completely missed it.
I miss Will so much. He was annoying in the beginning of the series, but I grew so fond of him and was so upset when he left.
If you were in the witness protection program, wouldn't you be warned about people who claim to be CIA and call you by your real name - I imagine a real CIA person wouldn't ever utter a witness' real name out loud.
I am not into the whole doubling thing either. But we'll just have to wait and see where it brings us.
Yes, the baby is a lot older than 4-5 weeks old.
I did love the baby sitters though!
I thought the federal babysitters were hilarious. Doubling Syd, not so much. Is Will going to back for the rest of the season, or was that it? It was good to see him, but sad that it's come down to two episodes in three seasons.
He is always so over the top when he is under cover with Sydney, in a good way. :)
kwsu44
04-27-2006, 06:44 PM
I've always loved Will too. In fact, in the beginning of Alias, I was rooting for them to make it ... I remember the scene when they were in her kitchen eating ice cream after downing lots of tequila and Will totally went for it. Sigh, so dreamy.
Of course this was before my full fledged crush on Michael Vartan started. I just adore him.
I thought the federal babysitters scene was hilarious.
sheartm7
04-28-2006, 06:41 AM
But, yeah, I'm not super keen on the whole doubling thing happening again. It's getting a little old.
I agree. It does piece together Rambaldi's prophesy, and I know Alias is never that realistic. But c'mon - they got Syd's DNA from a computer screen? :rolleyes:
KaliLily
04-28-2006, 09:03 AM
But c'mon - they got Syd's DNA from a computer screen? :rolleyes:
Here's what I got from the episode. Now, I got a D+ in college biology so my technical knowledge is WAY off. :)
I think the first step was capturing her DNA "signature" from her blood when Anna cut her arm. There was something on the wall that was "reading" isotopes or something. Then in the train car they dowsed her with a chemical agent that allowed them to capture her DNA in that thingy under the train. The chemical probably caused skin to peel off, thus giving them DNA.
I also agree that it's a step backwards for them to go into the whole "doubling" storyline again...
Does anyone else read the Television Without Pity (http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/show.cgi?show=75) Alias recaps? That are so damn good and crack me up every time. I love the humor and how well and witty-ly it's written, but it's also a really well-detailed recap of each episode. And they always post "recaplets" after show to tide you over until the full recap is up. For example, here is the recaplet from last week:
Sloane meets the members of Prophet Five face-to-face and they give him an assignment that, once it's completed, will guarantee Nadia's return to health. He's charged with getting Sydney to end her maternity leave and head back to work. That task becomes remarkably simple when Will is abducted by none other than Anna Espinosa. Syd leaves her baby behind and heads back into the field in order to retrieve her best buddy.
The Appleseed Gang heads to Russia with the girls in their wigs and the boys in their…well, Dixon's hair LOOKS like a wig. They're in Russia to ostensibly free Willy, but the whole thing's a trap designed to let Anna cut Sydney to pieces so that an observing Michael Creepy -- erm, I mean, "Massee" -- can gather enough biological information from Sydney's sliced arm to enable him to CLONE her. Oh, no. Not again.
It's declared, finally, right out in the open, that Sydney and Jack were behind Vaughn's National Lampoon's Bhutan Vacation. Syd wants to share the truth with Will, but he's had a bomb implanted in his head, so he's not really interested in talking about the still-alive baby daddy.
After we get a brush-up on Rambaldi and the infamous Page 47, Syd and Will partner up and head to Lisbon in an effort to get the codes to the bomb in Will's head from Anna. Syd manages to stop the bomb from going off right after she kicks Anna's ass, only to discover that the bomb was just a distraction and that Anna's entire plan was to get Sydney trapped in a railcar so that her DNA can be collected for the clone.
And guess who the lucky clone-ee is? That's right. Anna E! Oh, this is so not going to turn out well.
Anyways, just wanted to share! Can't wait for this week's show. :D
Wrighty26
05-01-2006, 01:27 PM
I love TWOP-- it's one of my FAVORITE websites. I love the recaplets, but full-length recaps using have me in tears (laughter) (or I end up thinking, "That's exactly what I thought...") - especially for Alias!
but full-length recaps using have me in tears (laughter) (or I end up thinking, "That's exactly what I thought...") Me too. The writers on there are so good like that. It's like they get inside your head while you're watching the show. I prefer the full recaps too, but thought they'd be too long to post. ;)
stevesbabygirl
05-01-2006, 01:35 PM
The girls who write the Alias recaps in TWoP have also done audio commentaries on the Alias DVDs. I think it was season 2.
sheartm7
05-03-2006, 07:26 PM
Poor Nadia ... :(
I know. :( I thought the episode was kinda slow, up until the end. The end was pretty powerful. Especially with the Sloane voice-over. I hate all the dang commercials!:mad:
KaliLily
05-03-2006, 08:18 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOO! Not Nadia!
Poor Sydney. Sloane has once again taken someone Sydney loves away from her. There is no redeeming him now.
hockeybrat
05-04-2006, 10:09 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOO! Not Nadia!
Poor Sydney. Sloane has once again taken someone Sydney loves away from her. There is no redeeming him now.
Definitely. I hope she gets revenge on him once and for all.
sheartm7
05-04-2006, 10:21 AM
I hope Sloane is killed in the finale.
hockeybrat
05-04-2006, 10:21 AM
Me too.
I want to see Sark!
sheartm7
05-04-2006, 10:22 AM
Yah, what the heck - I thought they said he'd be back. :confused:
For someone that seemed like he would do ANYthing to save his daughter, I found it odd how Sloane seemed so torn between her and Rambaldi at the end (right before Nadia died.) :confused:
hockeybrat
05-04-2006, 10:27 AM
Rambaldi is more important to him than anything. I don't know if he knew that all along or not.
sheartm7
05-10-2006, 07:55 PM
Vaughn totally kicked ass. I loved his "lousey kisser" comment. :D
L'il Bit
05-10-2006, 08:36 PM
I loved his "lousey kisser" comment. Me too!!! :D
Yaaaay, Sark's on his way back!
Only two episodes left. :(
Still can't stand the acting of that Payton girl. Ugh.
stevesbabygirl
05-11-2006, 12:30 AM
Vaughn was yummy tonight, I'm so happy to see him back on the show! Loved the lousy kisser comment too!
since I've yet to watch this season live (I've been catching up on the ABC online stream) I didn't even realize it was on tonight. Needless to say, I missed the first 20 minutes so I'll have to catch up on that tomorrow. Otherwise, it was a good night of ABC TV
I'm gonna miss this show so much! :( So happy Vaughn is back! :D
jeepgirl
05-11-2006, 08:24 AM
When Sydney asked Renee if she wanted an "APO" position I thought they were maybe going to "try" to redeem the show at that last minute and make her the next "Sydney" figure (she's the only one that I think could really DO it, ya know?). And then they killed her off, just like that! Why would they have Sydney ask her that, TWICE, and then kill her! hmmm....
I hated the way Nadia died. They bring her back and then kill her. They are REALLY trying to wrap things up fast. Why couldn't they have her live, happily ever after kinda thing, ya know?! I'm too idealistic.
hockeybrat
05-11-2006, 09:46 AM
I hated the way Nadia died. They bring her back and then kill her. They are REALLY trying to wrap things up fast. Why couldn't they have her live, happily ever after kinda thing, ya know?! I'm too idealistic.
I didn't like the fact that she died either but they had to show that Sloane's true love is Rimbaldi. Nobody else, even his own flesh and blood mattered.
I was really REALLY happy to see Sark last night! hubba hubba! :p
sheartm7
05-11-2006, 09:57 AM
I was really REALLY happy to see Sark last night! I almost yelled out loud. :)
Wrighty26
05-11-2006, 12:17 PM
When Sydney asked Renee if she wanted an "APO" position I thought they were maybe going to "try" to redeem the show at that last minute and make her the next "Sydney" figure (she's the only one that I think could really DO it, ya know?). And then they killed her off, just like that! Why would they have Sydney ask her that, TWICE, and then kill her! hmmm....
I think that they reason they did that was to set up the whole "she actually trusts Sydney" thing (which she told Syd)-- and then have someone looking EXACTLY like Sydney killed her. So she died thinking that Sydney betrayed her. Her death actually was more sad to me than Nadia's for that reason...
stevesbabygirl
05-11-2006, 01:01 PM
I also loved Marshall's line "I knew he wasn't dead!" That perfectly echoed all of our sentiments. Good job with that one guys! That was also like Vaughn's line at the beginning of season 4 - "last year sucked."
Sazoo
05-11-2006, 03:12 PM
I was really REALLY happy to see Sark last night!
I almost yelled out loud. :)I DID yell out loud! My DH thought I was nuts when I shouted "YES!" & threw my hands up in the air as soon as I saw Sark's face. So then I had to explain to him that all of us Alias fans on CC have been anxiously awaiting Sark's appearance before the end of the season. He still thought I was weird. :p
jeepgirl
05-11-2006, 05:54 PM
Her death actually was more sad to me than Nadia's for that reason...
Yup, I agree. :(
hockeybrat
05-12-2006, 09:45 AM
A thought just occurred to me.
Was Eric Weiss at Nadia's funeral? We saw him when Marshall, Dixon, Rachel, & Tom when to the CIA Headquarters but we didn't see him at Nadia's funeral? I just found that strange.
stevesbabygirl
05-17-2006, 10:08 PM
Am I the only one who watched tonight?!
Vaughn was yummy, as always :). I'm sooooooooo glad that he's back!
Did anyone else think that Sark's accent sounded a little different?
Wrighty26
05-18-2006, 05:41 AM
I loved last night's episode... So glad to see Syd/Vaughn back together again!
I could have done without the Rachel/Thomas Grace part (I'm hoping that ties in to something-- because WAH?? :confused: did they just have to give them something to do?)...
Did anyone else think that Sark's accent sounded a little different?
I didn't really pay attention-- but this is possible (since David Anders is as American as they come!)-- I imagine it's hard to pick up an accent you haven't used in a while.
While I'm definitely looking forward to next Monday (we don't even have to wait a whole week!), I'm also a little sad :( I can't believe the show is really ending!
I definitely thought Sark's accent was a bit off at the beginning - which is odd because David Anders usually does such a good job. I really could not believe he was American when I found out awhile back.
I absolutely LOVED the scene with Syd and Vaughn standing at the newstand - such a cool shoutout back to the old days.
I agree...the Thomas and Rachel thing had better tie in. That would be lame if they're just using the story as a filler.
It's on this Monday?!:eek: :D
hockeybrat
05-18-2006, 10:10 AM
In the beginning of last night's show, Sark's voice threw me off too. Maybe because it sounded deeper than the usual Sark voice?
I can't believe Monday is the last show ever. :(
sheartm7
05-18-2006, 10:26 AM
Hmm, I didn't notice Sark's accent being different, but all I thought when I saw him was how hot he is. :p
KaliLily
05-18-2006, 11:25 AM
I can't believe Monday is the last show ever. :(
I know! It makes me so sad. :( I need an Alias movie.
KaliLily
05-18-2006, 11:26 AM
I could have done without the Rachel/Thomas Grace part (I'm hoping that ties in to something-- because WAH?? :confused: did they just have to give them something to do?)...
I thought the same thing. Would have rather had more Syd/Sark/Vaughn/Dixon/Sloane action. Heck, even some scenes of Jack trying to take care of Isabelle would've fit better. :)
cocoa_femme
05-18-2006, 12:49 PM
Re: Sark
Did anyone notice when Sark faked his seizures in the jail cell, his cell mate said, "help, help - the beautiful man is ill"?
For some reason, I found that so funny.
young lioness
05-18-2006, 01:21 PM
The line that made me laugh was when Jack was on the phone with Syd and Isabelle was giggling...he said "Apparently, I'm funny." Which was pretty funny coming from Jack.
sheartm7
05-18-2006, 01:25 PM
The line that made me laugh was when Jack was on the phone with Syd and Isabelle was giggling...he said "Apparently, I'm funny." Which was pretty funny coming from Jack.
Haha, I thought that was hilarious too. :D
hockeybrat
05-18-2006, 01:31 PM
The line that made me laugh was when Jack was on the phone with Syd and Isabelle was giggling...he said "Apparently, I'm funny." Which was pretty funny coming from Jack.
He's got that deadpan look and it just made it funnier. :p
Did anyone notice when Sark faked his seizures in the jail cell, his cell mate said, "help, help - the beautiful man is ill"?
For some reason, I found that so funny. I loved that too. :D It was totally right on the money. Sark is a beautiful, beautiful man...evil..but beautiful. :p
KaliLily
05-19-2006, 09:44 AM
The line that made me laugh was when Jack was on the phone with Syd and Isabelle was giggling...he said "Apparently, I'm funny." Which was pretty funny coming from Jack.
That was one of my favorite lines in the whole episode. I love Jack. We don't see enough of Jack lately.
I also loved the "beautiful man" comment. Boy those writers know how we just love looking at Sark, don't they? :)
Have we learned Vaughn's real name yet? My DH just read an article that said Sydney has learned Vaughn's real name. But I don't recall hearing it yet. (The article didn't say what the name is.)
stevesbabygirl
05-20-2006, 01:38 AM
Have we learned Vaughn's real name yet? My DH just read an article that said Sydney has learned Vaughn's real name. But I don't recall hearing it yet. (The article didn't say what the name is.)
His real name is Andre Michaux. They said it in the first episode of this season :).
His real name is Andre Michaux. They said it in the first episode of this season :).
Thanks!
sheartm7
05-22-2006, 07:42 AM
Don't forget! Series finale is on tonight!
Can't wait! :D I re-watched last week's episode last night in preparation. ;) I'm super excited for tonight but also feeling a bit sad too that my favorite show is ending...:(
stevesbabygirl
05-22-2006, 01:26 PM
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah, I'm so sad :(! But this finale should kick some serious ass.
sarahh
05-22-2006, 01:36 PM
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I have a sinking feeling that **Jack** is going to die. Don't ask me why I think so, I just do.
sheartm7
05-22-2006, 01:48 PM
sarahh - why do you think that?
sarahh
05-22-2006, 01:51 PM
I don't know. I haven't heard or seen anything that would lead me to believe it would be that particular person. Maybe I am just being pessimistic.
**spoiler theory...I did read/hear somewhere that there would be a death. So maybe I am just preparing myself for the worst?**
sheartm7
05-22-2006, 01:54 PM
Well, let's just hope it's Sloane. :)
sarahh
05-22-2006, 02:02 PM
I hope you are right and I am pleasently suprised! I can't believe how bummed I am getting that tonight is it.
I have actually thought about starting the series all over next week and watch one show a week, so I can get another five years of Alias!
I can't believe it's all over tonight! Aghhhhh!
stevesbabygirl
05-22-2006, 03:15 PM
Sarah, I have that same feeling too. In one of the Alias LJ communities I'm in, a little survey was done, and one of the questions was what people expected to see in the finale. A lot of people said that they thought someone they liked would die. So either, a lot of people know something, or they're just really afraid. I just hope that we're wrong and that sheartm7 is right!
young lioness
05-22-2006, 04:06 PM
I've been afraid about the same thing. I think I remember reading a *spoiler* that a male APO member dies heroically. I'm thinking that could be Jack or maybe Marshall or Dixon. Unless Sloan sees the error of his ways and does something heroic.
Regardless of what happens, I'm just generally sad that it is the finale.
hockeybrat
05-22-2006, 04:27 PM
I can't wait until tonight even though I don't want the show to end! :(
I hope it is a really good finale.
I'm confused...I thought Marshall's wife knew who he worked for. Didn't they meet at CIA?!?! Or did I just make that up in my head?
sarahh
05-22-2006, 09:00 PM
Yes...they met at the CIA. But she didn't know he went to work for APO.
sarahh
05-22-2006, 09:02 PM
SPOILER WARNING FOR WEST COASTERS...
AWESOME FINALE! But so sad to see it's over!
This is the one time I HATE the fact that my instinct was right! I bawled like a little baby...I mean heaving sobs.
But in the end he died heroically...which is true to form. As for Sloane...he got exactly what he deserved!
I just watched last week's show now - Sark, what a beautiful man indeed!
Can't wait for tonight's show.
Vjel, Marshall's wife knew that he worked CIA, but not a *secret* un-sanctioned part of the CIA. So when they all left the CIA, he was to have left and gotten a tech job of sorts (or so I thought).
Vjel, Marshall's wife knew that he worked CIA, but not a *secret* un-sanctioned part of the CIA. So when they all left the CIA, he was to have left and gotten a tech job of sorts (or so I thought).
ah, got it. Thanks for that explanation!
miaclear
05-22-2006, 09:14 PM
It was ok in my oppinion. I guess I was hoping for some big revelation. Nice to think of Sloan stuck down there for eternity :D
Can someone clear this up for me. Sloan was talking to Sydney about when she came to live with him and his wife at one point. Yet when she first went to work for the "bank" she didn't seem to know him. What's up with that?
KaliLily
05-22-2006, 09:16 PM
I'm so sad it's over. :( I had tears streaming down my face when [in white for West Coasters] Syd and Jack had their final moments together.
KaliLily
05-22-2006, 09:27 PM
Can't. Stop. Crying. :(
Oh good, I'm not alone. DH just came in and asked how Alias was and all I could say was, "It's over!" Damn you, ABC!
stevesbabygirl
05-23-2006, 12:01 AM
Jack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Hmmmm.....It was good but not great. I guess I just expected more. I expected them to go all out for the finale.
One thing that bothered me was that they made Irina truly bad when they had shown her as good to Sydney the first four seasons. I was happy to see her die. I was thinkinh Sloan would die but not Jack, that was so sad.
How cute was baby Jack? I am glad in the end that Sydney & Vaughn got their peaceful life. I just wish Jack, Will & Francie could have been part of it. I loved the flashbacks and that we got to see Francie one last time. And in true fashion Sark got away.
Overall, I think they (creators not actors)had already given up on the show, especially JJ.
sdianems
05-23-2006, 04:26 AM
Question since I missed the first hour of the show...what happened to Will?
jeepgirl
05-23-2006, 05:37 AM
I think Will is still "out there" in witness protection. I was sad he wasn't part of the finale.
Overall, I thought the finale was VERY well done... Something I am surprised to "hear" me say given that I thought the beginning of this season was SO BAD. I think everyone did give up on ALIAS for a while, because it became obvious it was not going to survive. When the *star* of the show begins not to care about it (which JG did state a while back, something like "I can't believe how much I don't care about work anymore"), I would think the "morale" of the cast and crew would probably go down too. I imagine that is what happened, at least in part.
I thought Jack died very heroically. The last moments between Syd and Jack were some of the most heart wrenching I can remember. Sloane did get what he deserved... funny, I think JJ "alludes" to the Bible sometimes. I think there is a place in the Bible that talks about the "devil" roaming the earth with no one to tempt for a thousand years, and that being part of his ultimate "punishment." (So essentially, forced to "be alone" but alive - something worse than death.) I can't help but see some of the similarities.
I too was surprised at the "final" wickedness of Irina. I somehow thought Irina was ultimately going to take Sloane down, and that the "good" would still show through, but I'm glad there was at least an "end" to her story. I think we all needed that.
There were things that I think were totally unrealistic. Vaughn being able to climb mountains in what looked like below freezing weather after all of his injuries... even the fact that he recovered at all is amazing, but you would have thought they would have at least had him limping with a cane or something for the rest of his life. To not have any permanent damage from "a billion" bullet holes piercing your chest, arms and legs... extremely unrealistic (I know, I know... this is a show!) I too picked up on the inconsistency of Sloane talking to Syd about when she lived with him as a kid, and then seemingly not recognizing him when she started with SD-6.
Did anyone else think the show was "left open" for future *maybe someday* possibilities? Interesting to say the least.
young lioness
05-23-2006, 06:21 AM
Overall, I was pretty disappointed. I just had higher expectations...I was hoping there would be some big twist and all the pieces would suddenly fall into place for a perfect ending. It just seemed kind of choppy and thrown together. It just seemed like they were doing a bunch of running around to different locations and there wasn't much "story" to it.
I was pissed that they killed Jack. After Tom was killed, I thought "OK...they've already killed someone, so maybe Jack will be OK."
OK...enough complaining about what I didn't like...what I did like...
I like that they showed Jack's feelings on Syd and the CIA (when he discovered that she could do the puzzle and when he found out that she got a job at "the credit union"). It showed that he always cared about her and didn't want her involved with the dangers he was involved with. But she was always her own person and did what she thought she was meant to do.
I also liked when Isabelle found and put together the puzzle at the end. It was like a wink to the audience (here comes the next generation of the spyfam!),
Still recovering here...;) I do feel like there were still questions unanswered (i.e. - I still don't feel like I know what was going on with Rambaldi and the actual endgame).
The Syd-Jack scene tore me apart. :(
I did love a lot of the episode. I thought it was awesome how the first location they did was "Sydney". I can't remember if they've ever done that before. :)
The very beginning when Sydney is narrating, talking about Prophet 5 and how they killed her fiance - very well done - sounded exactly like the intros to Season 1 when she's talking about SD-6 and Danny.
I feel really sad today. I'm going to miss this show. It really did go downhill so I almost feel like I'm sad about what used to be and now that it's really over...:(
L'il Bit
05-23-2006, 08:34 AM
I felt like it was a good end to the show. They tied it all together, and brought back some of the characters (disappointed that Will wasn't a part of the finale, but at least he did make an appearance during the last season).
Can someone clear this up for me. Sloan was talking to Sydney about when she came to live with him and his wife at one point. Yet when she first went to work for the "bank" she didn't seem to know him. What's up with that?
I was thinking the same thing! Especially since Syd is exceptionally gifted and has a photographic memory... but I do remember in the first season when she 'discovered' who he was. He didn't go by Sloane, or something, and they faked his death? Or it was reported that he was in the car with "Laura Bristow"? Someone refresh my memory!
The scene with Jack and Syd was heart wrenching. And it was nice to see flashbacks of when she started with SD-6. He was a double agent then, too I think.
Serves Sloane right. (i.e. - I still don't feel like I know what was going on with Rambaldi and the actual endgame).
I feel like I need to watch this season from start to finish, as well as the second season when they started to introduce all the Rambaldi prophecies. I know that the whole reason it was important to Sloane was the eternal life thing. But I don't get the prophecy about Sydney... was she supposed to be the reason for the end of the world? Maybe they were actually talking about Irina, and Syd stopped her? I don't get that part.
All in all, I thought it was a good end. I love how Syd and Vaughn are together, and the last scene with Isabelle was great.
sea74
05-23-2006, 08:35 AM
Overall, I was pretty disappointed. I just had higher expectations...I was hoping there would be some big twist and all the pieces would suddenly fall into place for a perfect ending. It just seemed kind of choppy and thrown together. It just seemed like they were doing a bunch of running around to different locations and there wasn't much "story" to it.
This is how I felt, too. I was just hoping for more.
But I did enjoy parts of it like the scene w/Jack and Syd, and them going back to when Syd was a little girl. I also enjoyed seeing Sloan buried under all that rock for all eternity. Serves him right. And I can’t think of his name right now, but I liked how they used the computer guy and his wife.
hockeybrat
05-23-2006, 09:54 AM
:( I was bawling when Jack died. I can't believe that it is over. No more Sark, Will, Vaughn (sigh)
It was a really good ending and I am glad (but tired) that I stayed up to watch it all.
jeepgirl
05-23-2006, 09:58 AM
And I can’t think of his name right now, but I liked how they used the computer guy and his wife.
I liked how they use Marshall, and brought back his wife into the whole thing to "save" him too. I also LOVED how Marshall got the courage not to "cave" into sloane when being threatened with torture. "I have a hangnail on my right toe you can start on next." - CLASSIC.
KaliLily
05-23-2006, 10:54 AM
I feel like I need to watch this season from start to finish, as well as the second season when they started to introduce all the Rambaldi prophecies. I know that the whole reason it was important to Sloane was the eternal life thing. But I don't get the prophecy about Sydney... was she supposed to be the reason for the end of the world? Maybe they were actually talking about Irina, and Syd stopped her? I don't get that part.
I've been confused about it, too. I don't think the prophesy was about Irina, but I also wonder if it was about Sydney bringing about the end of the world or destroying Rimbaldi's work, which I suspect was his "world". Then again, Sydney said she didn't believe in "fate" in her final scenes with Irina. And Vaughn reminded her she isn't powerless.
miaclear
05-23-2006, 11:26 AM
The Truth Takes Time....did we really get an answer to this oh so long ago moment????
Sazoo
05-23-2006, 01:32 PM
I enjoyed the Alias finale...but I didn't *love* it.
I just had higher expectations...I was hoping there would be some big twist and all the pieces would suddenly fall into place for a perfect ending. It just seemed kind of choppy and thrown together. It just seemed like they were doing a bunch of running around to different locations and there wasn't much "story" to it.Exactly. I don't know what more I was expecting, exactly, but to me, the finale was kind of predictable in a way. *shrug*
It was good, though, to get some resolution to the Rambaldi storyline & to see some of the evil characters get what they deserved (Sloane getting the eternal life he wanted so badly, Irina's death, etc.) And I loved that Marshall stood up to Sloane & wouldn't give in to him despite the torture they inflicted on him. It was also neat the way his wife came into APO & got on the computer & found her hubby so the team could go rescue him! :)
I was super sad to see Jack die - I was so hoping that he, Syd & Vaughn would walk away from all this & be happy together as a family. :( But the final scene with Jack & Sydney was touching, & it was nice to see the happy little family that Vaughn, Sydney & their 2 kids had at the beach there at the end. I loved that we saw Isabel (sp?) do that block puzzle thing...hee hee!
One other thing that bothered me was that Propher 5 has been going on for 30 years and killed so many people yet Peyton can walk in and take them down in twenty seconds. I still don't undstand the final Rimbaldi peice.
I loved that Isabel put the puzzle together and that they brought back Marshall's wife. He was so good when he was standing up to Sloane.
Alias really had a great core group of actors. They did a wonderful job and had great chemistry. I'm glad that we at least got 5 years.
jeepgirl
05-23-2006, 04:23 PM
Actually, I think Rambaldi said something about "two would struggle" and one would triumph in the end. In that sense, the prophecy WAS fulfilled - right?
Fun, nostalgic video of the Alias cast/crew (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1bAwJFxd50)
Awwwww.... :D
jeepgirl
05-23-2006, 06:24 PM
In that video (very sweet btw!), who is the bearded guy with the big smile on his face? He is shown several times, and looks SO familiar, but I just can't place him. Its not JJ Abrams, but has the beard and glasses that are similar.
???
sarahh
05-23-2006, 07:25 PM
In that video (very sweet btw!), who is the bearded guy with the big smile on his face? He is shown several times, and looks SO familiar, but I just can't place him. Its not JJ Abrams, but has the beard and glasses that are similar.
???The guy with the black glasses? That's Ken Olin (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0646440/). He's an Executive Producer for Alias, but was an actor on the show "thirtysomething" back in the day.
jeepgirl
05-23-2006, 07:50 PM
That's exactly who it is! He is CUTE!!! ;) Thanks Sarahh!
KaliLily
05-23-2006, 07:56 PM
I am such a sap. I was crying watching that video. Can I pass it off as hormonal? Or that I'm sick today? Ok, alright, I'll just admit it. I'm a sap. :)
I loved loved loved Alias. It was the first show I can remember that really grab my attention with the 1st episode. And nothing has since.
Sazoo
05-23-2006, 10:58 PM
That video was great - I got choked up watching it! :p
Thanks for posting, SQ2!
stevesbabygirl
05-24-2006, 12:02 AM
Waaaaaaaaaaah, I miss Alias already!
sdianems
05-24-2006, 01:28 PM
Did we ever get an answer to the question of who Vaughn is, exactly?
I remember him alluding to a double life just before the car crash last season, but what ever came of it?
I did a search of the thread but couldn't find any info....
TIA!
Raven_Girl
05-24-2006, 03:16 PM
I'm still upset Jack died. I loved him more than Syd and Vaugh. The ending was slightly unrealistic but that's ALias for you.
I think Tom getting away with being a mole made me mad.
KaliLily
05-25-2006, 10:46 AM
FYI - Victor Garber (Jack) already has a new series! He's playing a high-profile defense attorney in Fox's new series "Justice." Saw a commercial for it last night during the American Idol finale.
jesseybell
05-25-2006, 11:12 AM
I managed to sneak in Alias before Lost last night. I did like the show. I kept thinking about Indiana Jones. I wasn't as choked up about Sydney and Jack as I thought, but maybe because I saw it coming. I loved that Sloane got what was coming to him. I was so glad that Marshall's wife came back. I didn't love her in Felicity, but I did in this show.
I am sorry the show is over, but it was time. While the finale wasn't the best it could be, I was happy with it.
stevesbabygirl
05-25-2006, 12:58 PM
Did we ever get an answer to the question of who Vaughn is, exactly?
I remember him alluding to a double life just before the car crash last season, but what ever came of it?
I did a search of the thread but couldn't find any info....
TIA!
It wasn't necessarily that he was leading a double life; it was more that his name wasn't really Michael Vaughn. His name was Andre Michaux, and his name was changed because his father was investigating Prophet 5. It was getting too dangerous, so they fled, came to the US, and changed their names.
sheartm7
05-26-2006, 06:57 AM
I agree with these statements:
Overall, I was pretty disappointed. I just had higher expectations...I was hoping there would be some big twist and all the pieces would suddenly fall into place for a perfect ending. It just seemed kind of choppy and thrown together. It just seemed like they were doing a bunch of running around to different locations and there wasn't much "story" to it.
and
I still don't feel like I know what was going on with Rambaldi and the actual endgame
I kept getting confused with all the jumping around and trying to figure out the main storyline. I hate that they had such a long break during this last season, maybe if I watched it all together, it would make more sense.
I guess the secret of Rambaldi was eternal life. But it was never clear to me how that tied into Sydney as the "Chosen One" and the #47 and all that stuff.
KaliLily
05-26-2006, 11:02 AM
I guess the secret of Rambaldi was eternal life. But it was never clear to me how that tied into Sydney as the "Chosen One" and the #47 and all that stuff.
The other night I was thinking about this, and had an idea. (Yes, Alias is over and I'm still analyzing it.) Maybe Sydney wasn't the "Chosen One." Maybe it's Isabelle. When they showed her as a young girl in the "flashforward", she was played by the same actress that played Sydney as a young girl in the flashbacks, and she could do that puzzle-thing just like Sydney could. Just a thought. :)
Yes, Alias is over and I'm still analyzing it.) Don't worry, me too. I've started watching the series over again starting with Season 1. :p Maybe Sydney wasn't the "Chosen One." Maybe it's Isabelle. Interesting theory. Definitely possible. But I'm pretty sure it was different actresses. The one playing Isabelle had brown eyes and the one playing a young Sydney had blue eyes (which was a mistake on the writers' part I think because we all know Syd had brown eyes).
sdianems
05-26-2006, 12:53 PM
It wasn't necessarily that he was leading a double life; it was more that his name wasn't really Michael Vaughn. His name was Andre Michaux, and his name was changed because his father was investigating Prophet 5. It was getting too dangerous, so they fled, came to the US, and changed their names.
Thanks!
sheartm7
05-26-2006, 01:19 PM
Maybe it's Isabelle. When they showed her as a young girl in the "flashforward", she was played by the same actress that played Sydney as a young girl in the flashbacks
They were definitely two different girls. Like someone else said, she had different color eyes, but their faces were also totally different.
sarahh
05-26-2006, 04:13 PM
Yup...definitely two different actresses...
Isabelle...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/shancock/5x17-731.jpg
Lil' Syd...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v323/shancock/5x17-128.jpg
Photo Source: www.alias-media.com
Man, I got sucked back in to season one. Talk about the good stuff. I just finished watching the tequila and ice cream episode *sigh*
stevesbabygirl
06-23-2006, 12:00 AM
Me too :D! I watched the first three episodes the other night, and plan on plowing through some more!
Scooter
06-26-2006, 01:30 AM
I've had Season 5 saved in my Netflix queue for months. :o But it still says "unknown" for the release date. I was hoping they'd be quick--but maybe they're taking a while so they can put tons of extras in??
I just want to watch all of this last season at once so I can actually follow what's happening from episode to episode.
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