UN calls for Guantanamo closure

[allyray231]

I am suprised no one has posted this

BBC
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4718724.stm

UN report on conditions in the Cuba camp says the US should try all inmates or free them "without further delay".

Some aspects of the treatment of the 500-strong camp population amount to torture, the UN team alleges.

The US has rejected the closure call, with White House spokesman Scott McClellan saying that the facility houses "dangerous terrorists".

[lawyerlee]

Yeah, the UN is just a bunch of liars. Riiiight. :rolleyes: I love how we only believe in democracy and the Constitution when it's easy and serves our ends. :(

[allyray231]

I mean why are more people not asking about this place?? Did they just all forget???

[pocket]

It's just the beginning. The UN is going to start censuring the US more and more frequently I think. This is a test case for the prisons in E. Europe and the horrible Uzbeki ones. I agree that Guantanamo should be closed. It's F'ed up to go to other countries to make a space outside of the law.

[lawyerlee]

It's F'ed up to go to other countries to make a space outside of the law.
Yes, it really is. There is absolutely no justification for keeping Guantanamo open. We all know why it exists, and it is wrong.

[allyray231]

Ita

[allyray231]

Do people just not care? I mean come on-I would like some repsonses here!!

(other then the wonderful ladies that have already responded :) )

[jnettie]

I care! For me, I'm not sure exactly what to do, though, beyond writing or calling my Congressmen and Senators.

Guantanimo is such a travisty. Yes, this is second hand knowledge, but DH and I were talking to the guy who owns the corner store in our neighborhood (have for years, he's a really nice guy) and he was telling us about his friend who was pulled out of his home and sent to Guantanimo. He spent something like 2 years there, his family never knew that's where he was, and then they just sent him back home. He didn't do anything! Corner Store man was really nervous about telling us this, and you could tell he was very afraid.

[MLA]

I care;I really do! Guantanamo is awful, and I'd like to see ti closed, but it just feels so overwhelming, you know? I feel like nothing will change for the better until this f-ed up administration is out.

[hockeybrat]

I care!

I agree that "Gitmo" is a travesty. I would love to see it closed and the land handed back to the Cubans.

[kedzieb]

part of the problem the UN had with Guantanamo was that so many people are being held there without being charged with anything or given a fair trial. i think the government's screams of 'terrorists, terrorists' would sound more reasonable if some of the prisoners were publicly tried.

i think public trials would help show the world we're serious about fighting terrorism, and not running an illegal concentration camp. the public aspect gave worldwide validity to the post-WWII Nuremberg trials - and the main reason the Nazi's weren't turned into martyrs.

i think it hurts us more than it hurts the terrorists to hold people indefinitely without charging them. i'm sure some of the prisoners are there for real reasons, and can't fathom who it's helping to hide them away. the secrecy and possible touture makes it possible for them to be seen is martyrs.

[allyray231]

Thanks--I know that you guys care--so thank you. I assume there are people out there who think it is fine-I would love to hear from them

[MLA]

The irony of Guantanamo is that even if most of the people who are imprisoned there weren't terrorists to begin with, they certainly hate us now. I wouldn't be surprised if we've created a lot of jihadists/terroist-sympathizers out of those prisoners.

It's just so disgusting. I hate that this is happening.

[LittleFredPunkinHead]

I care too... :) I just don't know what to say about it. I wish that the UN's view on this would sway us, but I don't think it will. Meh. It's disgusting.

[singerwife]

I care. I've just reached this depressing saturation point that really hit after the last presidential election.

I feel like it's a bad proctology exam, and since I can't stop it from happening...I'm just in that mode of wishing for time to pass so it'll be over. Totally NOT the way to think, but there it is.

The US has gone from 8 years of unprecedented levels of peace and prosperity to this dismal place where the world (justifiably) hates us, we do sh!tty things, are so far in debt, while the poor get poorer and people's rights are stripped away bit by bit.

I care, and I hate that it's happening...but I feel paralyzed.

[BlackMagicRose]

I care about this. I am upset by the fact that the US is blowing this off so easily. I saw an interview with Donald Rumsfelt talking about how Kofi Annan (sorry about the misspelling) is wrong about it being shut down. He said that there are terrorists there that need to be kept in a secure place like "Gitmo", but I agree with MLA when she said
The irony of Guantanamo is that even if most of the people who are imprisoned there weren't terrorists to begin with, they certainly hate us now. I wouldn't be surprised if we've created a lot of jihadists/terroist-sympathizers out of those prisoners.

We are going backward. More people to hate us. I just don't get the purpose of this prison.