TTC w/Charting Vol.13- Let's make this one a lucky one!

[Charting is Knowledge]

TTCers of ConstantChatter:
Charting Our Course to the BFPs

http://www.ripleysorlando.com/images2/fertilitystatues.jpg
The fertility statues are known to work for some who rub them around the time of possible conception.
It is said that the baby is the most potent part of the statue.

So rub away! :D It's worth a shot!


Who we are:
This is a group of women using charting (temperatures, CM, CP, OPK/FM results, or a combination of these) to try to conceive and, along the way, are learning a heckuvalot about their own bodies! Many of us use a software program to keep track of our charts as well as allowing us to share them with each other. The most common ones are FertitlityFriend.com and Ovusoft.com.

Your threadmistresses for this thread are Sare79 and gymwidow

To our members:
This thread gets very busy at times, so in order to keep things less overwhelming and a bit more organized, we start a new thread after 5 BFPs. A link to the new thread is always posted at the end of the current thread to help everyone find their way over. The threadmistresses would really appreciate it if everyone would post their updates in Red. That way, if we get a bit behind, it is much quicker to get the thread up-to-date.


Previous Thread... (http://www.constantchatter.com/showthread.php?t=14084)


KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!

Want to join the fun??
We welcome one and all. It doesn’t matter if you have never charted before or if you’ve been charting to avoid. I am sure you will find lots of help and support in this group.

If you would like to join, CD1 is the time to do it! That way, we can cheer you on
throughout your cycle, rather than 2 days before you test! :cool:

Please don't be discouraged by the number of posts in this thread. You don’t have to read the whole thread to join. Feel free to just jump in on the last page. Just read through these first couple of posts and post a reply with the following information and we will get you added right away. Of course, none of this info is a must but we like to know a little bit about one another.


CC Name:
Me: name/age
DH: name/age
Married since: date
Off BCP since: date
TTC since: date
Charting since: date
Known issues/test results:
Chart: link
Current status: waiting to O, What the bleep .., testing...

[Charting is Knowledge]

- Member ETF Status -

Lutealating:

Think I O'ed- Testing 1/23-1/29:
LDS Angel 19 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/64d1c)

Think I O'ed- Testing 1/30-2/05:
Alioop12345 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1d0d2), giry76 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/781ab), JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf), Ptcrn (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bed5d),

Think I O'ed- Testing 2/06-2/12:
gmb4503 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/28f73), Gymwidow (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/813ab), Jenzen01 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/41226),

Folliculating:
Waiting to O (aka - Boring Part of the Cycle)
ABirney (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrsabirney), Armadillo (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f25aa), ausi2b (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f7062), Bellefior (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6231d), Berry, bumble, Bunnybeth (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e5de5), Charliezangel (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/c97d2), CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas), cowgirl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f3285), Deanna1018 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2979), Delaney21 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e9d11), Dlj78 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=dlj78), Ellidew (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/78d2a), Graciebella (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7a038), Ilovemygeek (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bec65), jeant ( http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/5ef37), jessied1025 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/c57c3), Jjsanner (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/24f94), Jnshanna (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cafa6), Kimmer (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/106fea), KristieB (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/df6e5), Lilla (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2c0b6), Lilo, magrat (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/70df2), Marteneym (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fa78), Mayham (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/be39e), MichelleRenee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e174a), mimieliza (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/b84ec),MrsJackson05 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e581e), Polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d), Quartercentury (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3313f),Roberta (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10827a), Sare79 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/fe765),& suzfuzsunflower (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/90828)

Stagnating:
What the *bleep* is going on?!?!
polarama (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=polarama)

Chart not Updated -- Waiting for an update:
Applebee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/98534), Copswife03 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/daf53), Hiker04 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e86f8), Kiddo (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/kiddo),Kristi32302 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/45b0a)

Taking a Charting Break/Temporarily TTA:
neenbean (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/66982), TazLuv (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e80b5)

Percolating:
Expecting Mommies!

BFP’s in January: (10)
Adam's Pi (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/95990), Dionysia (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/fdec3), Hula1974 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/905ef), jbemommy ( http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1064ba), Katmg (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/89994), lawgirl4 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/a6770), Lily (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/447e7), MSH, octoberkate (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f8c44), Spencer's_Girl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6f9cc), suiej (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10159a)

BFP's in December: (8)
Abby's Mom, ajlanden (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2fdee),Aletheia (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a0c60), Dotsie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e00ca), jeggink (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c595), Mrs. M. (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1a234), Sabriel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c), UTChick (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf25d)

BFP's in November: (7)
Almostthere, Ellebelle (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2f8f5), Jesseybell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cd4f1), Lindybug (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99db2), Linnybubbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2330), mkvh (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99502), mrst2b2003

BFPs in October: (19)...We Broke the Record for most BFP's in One Month!!!!
amurphy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a5e06), Bottleored (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/44b0a), BunnyBeth (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e5de5), Calla Lily (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b025d), Ds2003 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ds2003), flygirl, Gardenia (http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=gardeniacc), jbenny75 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/803b1), Kaeden's Mommy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bcdb2), Lizard (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/af125), Mystikal (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/RaeK622), nuhmah (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/d72dc), Ryan (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3f12b), SarahnCraig (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c1846), Shouldaeloped (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/63d7a), Soulmate (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Soulmate), Klav (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21291), ShelbyMay (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/67c07), Wrighty26 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/beb7b)

BFPs in September: (3)
Baby Lust (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Shanes_Angel), Lowcountrywed (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c4aeb), Sabriel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c)

BFPs in August: (11)
Akachan93 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/229b9), Crazycaro (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21ac6), Guinness (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=10&id=guinness&tc=0&p=), jeeplover (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/721bb), Indiana Bride (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1d936), LittleStar (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c204a), Mel7dog (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ca05d), Missy329 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2b4de), MMHinCA (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c14c1), Sinclair319 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/sinclair319), Stumbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b1333), Uskiku (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cdfb0)

BFPs in July: (10)
Elenitsa (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=13&id=elenitsa&tc=0&p=), Heidi0622 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/549f8), Jane&Andy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c455f), Kopper (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/9e5e6), MrsCantDecide (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59e5b), Red_Canuck, Sevilla, ShannonGH (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ShannonGH), Tracie (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/a18c8), Tunibell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59461)

BFPs in June: (2)
Christy5599, Lovin'it

Tributatoring:
Proud Cheerleaders!
T3h_wookie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/25336)

Please advise if I’m off-target with your ETF (that's Estimated Test-Fest) or other status, or just need a good old-fashioned Ovary Shout!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Our Members:

ABirney (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrsabirney)
Me: Angie, 30
DH: Scott, 29
Married since: Sept 25, 2004
Off BC since: Dec '04
TTC since: Sept '05
Charting since: Dec 20 '04
Known issues: none

Adam's Pi (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/95990)
Me: 25
DH: 28
Married since: June 29, 2002
DS: June 25, 2004
Off BCP since: October 2002
TTC since: December 2005
Charting since: December 2005 (but we charted when we TTC DS)
Known issues/test results: This is my first known cycle since giving birth to my DS--I BF'ed him and didn't have a PP AF for 17.5 months....I'm still figuring out what my body is up to

Alioop12345 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1d0d2)
Me: Alioop12345 (33)
DH: Aron
DS: Jacob (02/03/04)
TTC #2 since: 5/05
Known issues/test results: Seeking help from RE using Gonal F, progesterone, estrodial, and HcG...probably going to use Viagra next cycle

Applebee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/98534)
Me: Lori Ann
DH: Ted
Married since: 4.4.03
Charting since: since Feb '05
Known issues/test results: Day3 Test all ok, DH's SA ok, but will have another one done. Motility on the low side

Armadillo (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f25aa)
Me: 27
DH: 30
Married since: 10/2004
Off BCP since: 7/2005
TTC since: 8/2005
Charting since: 11/2005
Known issues/test results: none

ausi2b (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f7062)
Me: ausi2b, 27
DH: 28
Married since:
Off BCP since: Oct/Nov 2005
TTC since: Oct/Nov 2005
Charting since: Oct/Nov 2005
Known issues: None

Bellefior (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6231d)
ME: 36
DH: 36
Married since: 5/31/03
Off BCP since: 5/05
TTC since: 5/05
Charting since: 5/05
Known issues/test results: None

Berry
Me: Connie, 29
DH: K, 31
Married since: 06/08/02
Off BCP since: May 2004
TTC since: December 2005
Charting since: November 2004
Known issues/test results: None

Bumble
DH: 33
Married since: 8.2003
TTC since: 4.2005
Charting since: 1.2005
Known issues/test results: miscarriage 6.2005 (8 weeks)

Bunnybeth (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e5de5)
Me: Bethany (27)
DH: Elon (28)
Married since: 6/23/02
TTC since: 1/06
Charting since: 3/02
Known issues/test results: miscarriage at 12w1d (12/7/05)

Charliezangel
Me: Emily 23
DH: Daniel 31
Married since: 5-22-05
Off BCP since: 11-23-05
TTC since: 1-6-06
Charting since: 1-17-06

Copswife03 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/daf53)
Me: Brooke/25
DH: Joe/27
Married since: 10/11/2003
Off BCP since: 8/20/2005
TTC since: 8/20/2005
Charting since: 8/22/2005
Known issues/test results: None

cowgirl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f3285)
Me: 28
DH: 33
Married since: 6/14/2003
TTC since: 6/14/2004
Charting since: 10/24/2005
Known issues/test results:

CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas)
ME: MMT age 33
DH: CT age 36
Married: 11/04
Off BCP: 12/04
TTC since: 01/05
Known issues/test results: blocked left fallopian tube
Possible High FSH levels, bloodwork Jan 06 to confirm
Jan 06 Clomid Challenge cancelled due to 2.5cm cyst on left ovary.

Delaney21 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e9d11)
Me: Jessica, 26
DH: Kyle, 27
Married since: June 14, 2003
Off BCP since: Feb, 2005
TTC since: November, 2005
Charting since: November, 2005
Known issues/test results: 2 ovarian surgeries

Dlj78 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=dlj78)
Me: Dana/27
DH: Nick/31
Married since: 9/18/04
Off BCP since: 2/2005
TTC since: 6/2005
Charting since: 2/2005
Known issues/test results: none

Deanna1018 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2979)
Me:37
DH:38
Married since: 9-6-03
TTC since: Will start Jan 06'
Charting since: October 2005
Known issues/test results: None

ellidew (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/78d2a)
Me: ellidew, 25
DH: 27
Married since: June 1, 2002
Off BCP since: 01/2005
TTC since: 07/2005
Charting since: 01/2005
Known issues/test results: Ovarian cysts

giry76 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/781ab)
Me: Colleen/29
DH: Troy/30
Married since: September 25,2004
Off BCP since: November, 2004
TTC since: December 15,2005
Charting since: November, 2004
Known issues/test results:Ovarian cyct last cycle


gmb4503 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/28f73)
CC Name: gmb4503
Me: Gina/27
DH: Steve/27
Married since: April 5, 2003
Off BCP since: Sept 2003
TTC since: June 2004
Charting since: Sept 2004
Known issues/test results: SA-normal, taking 100mg Clomid, HSG 11/05- normal

graciebella (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7a038)
Me: graciebella/34
DH: hubby /29
Married since: 10/09/04
Off BCP since: long time
TTC since: 10/04, with 6 month break
Charting since: 10/05
Known issues/test results: 1 blocked tube, irregular ovulation

Gymwidow (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/813ab)
Me: 29
DH: 29
Married since: June '03
Off BCP since: Feb. '05
TTC since: June '05
Charting since: Feb. '05
Known issues/test results: PCOS diagnosed 9/05; 50 mg Clomid 11/05; 50 mg Clomid 12/05; 100 mg Clomid 1/06

Hiker04 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e86f8)
Me: C, 26
DH: K, 37
Married since: 9-4-2004
Off BCP since: 5-2004
TTC since: 6-2005
Charting since: 6-2005
Known issues/test results: m/c Aug 4, 2005

Hula1974 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/905ef)
Me: Heather/31
DH: Tim/31
Married since: 6/8/02
Off BCP since: 8/04
TTC since: 10/05
Charting since: 2/05
Known issues: Migraine Headaches

Ilovemygeek (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bec65)
Me: Rachel (23)
DH: Trevor (23)
Married since: June 8, 2002
Off BCP since: June 12, 2005
TTC since: As soon as my cycles regulate themselves
Charting since: June 12, 2002
Known issues/test results: None

jeant (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/5ef37)
Me: Jean, 34
DH: Craig, 33
Married since: June 19, 2004
Off BCP since: June 5, 2004
TTC since: November 1, 2005
Charting since: July 2004
Known issues: Autoimmune thyroid disorder, correlated with higher risk of miscarriage.

Jenzen01 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/41226)
Me: 28
DH: 38 (next week)
DS: 12.21.04
Married since: 10.04.03
TTC since: 12.12.05
Known issues/tests: miscarriage @ 8 weeks 10.08.05

jessied1025 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/c57c3)
Me: Jessie (28)
DH: Jim (28)
Married since: Oct. 25, 2003
Off BC since: July 2005
TTC Since: Sept/Oct 2005
Charting Since: Nov 2005
Known Issues: None


Jjsanner (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/24f94)
Me: Jen, 30
DH: Eric, 33
DS: Elijah, born 2/6/2004
Married since: 4/26/2003
Off BCP since: 10/2004
TTC since: 6/2005
Charting since: 10/2004
Known issues/test results: None

Jnshanna (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cafa6)
Me: Shanna/29
DH: Jose/30
Married since: 10/01/94
Off BCP since: Haven't been on BCP for many years.
TTC since: July 2005
Charting since: 8/07/05
Known issues/test results: None

JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf)
Me: Jody, 32
DH: Scott, 31
Married Since: August 30, 2003
Off BCP Since: At least 10 years now
Charting Since: January 2005
Known issues/test results: None

[Charting is Knowledge]

Members continued...

kiddo (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/kiddo)
Me: Karen, 29
DH: Nate, 30
Married since: Oct 26, 2002
Off BC since: July '04
TTC since: August '04
Charting since: August '05
Known issues: none

Kimmer
Me: Kim, 30
DH: Ant, 30
Married since: November 5th 2005
Off BC since: August 2005
TTC since: August
Charting since: Dec 31, 2005
Known issues: none

KristieB (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/df6e5)
Me: Kristie/26
DH: Troy/25
Married since: 4/16/05
Off BCP since: N/A
TTC since: 11/05
Charting since: 08/05
Known issues/test results: None

Kristi32302 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/45b0a)
Me: Kristi/31
DH: Kelly/32
Married since: March 23, 2002
Off BCP since: Feb. 2004
TTC since: May 2004
Charting since: March 2004
Known issues/test results: None

lawgirl4 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/a6770)
Me: 31
DH: 36
Married since: July 6, 2003
Off BCP since: April 2005
TTC since: January 2005
Charting since: April 2005
Known issues/test results: none, but I seem to have slightly longer cycles


LDS Angel 19 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/64d1c)
Me: Michelle, 22
DH: Aaron, 23
Married since: Sept 4th 2004
Angel: Allison Grace, born and died June 17 2005
Off BCP since: Never on BCP
TTC (again) since: August 2005
Charting since: Charted August, took September off, and now starting again.
Known issues/test results: None at this time

Lilla (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2c0b6)
Me: Kim, 30
DH: Tony, 33
Married since: 10/12/02
TTC since: January 2006
Charting since: December 2005
Known issues/test results: Miscarriage at 10 wks, 11/26/05

Lilo
Married since: 2002
Off BCP since: late 2004?
TTC since: January 2006
Charting since: November 2004
Known issues/test results: None
Chart: no link at the moment

Lily (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/447e7)
Me: Erica/26
DH: Daryl/33
Married since: 9/13/03
Off BCP since: 9/03
TTC since: 1/06
Charting since: 9/03
Known issues/test results: None

magrat (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/70df2)
Me: Sarah, 26
DH: Ben, 25
Married since: 03/01/03
Off BCP since: December 3rd, 2005
TTC since: December 23, 2005
Charting since: December 2005
Known issues/test results: None

Marteneym (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fa78)
Me: 22
DH: 27
Married since: October 4, 2003
SWH since: October 2004
TTC since: December 2004
Off BCP since: September 2004
Known issues/test results: Delayed Ovulation, SA issues, Varicocele possible
9/9 FSH and Rubella- NORMAL
9/12 SA ABNORMAL- count 30mil/
motility 30% -repeat in 8wks

Mayham (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/be39e)
Me: 28
DH: 28
Married since: 5.02
TTC since: 3.05
Charting since: 5.05
Known issues/test results: None

MichelleRenee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e174a)
Me: Michelle/ 23
DH: Michael/ 29
Married since: May 29, 2005
Off BCP since: September 2005
TTC since: September 2005
Charting since: October 2005
Known issues/test results: none so far!

mimieliza (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/b84ec)
Me: Michelle/27
DH: Reid/29
Married since: 8/9/03
Off BCP since: 1/04
TTC since: 12/05
Charting since: 12/12/05
Known issues: Long, irregular cycles

MrsJackson05 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e581e)
Me: Jessica/23
DH: Travis/29
Married since: September 10th, 2005
TTC since: October, 2005
Charting since: Ocober 2005
Known issues/test results:

neenbean (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/66982)
Me: 30
DH: 30
Married since: 11/15/03
Off BCP since: 2/04
TTC since: waiting until 1/06
Charting since: 10/05/05 (also did before BFP with DD)
Known issues/test results: none

polarama
Me: Jenn, 30
DH: Chris, 30
Married since: 7/27/2002
Off BCP since: November, 2005
TTC since: November, 2005
Charting since: December, 2005
Known issues/test results: Possible PCOS, but never confirmed.

polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d)
Me: Lauren 26
DH: Brian 27
Married since: Nov. 20, 2004
Off BC since: May 05
TTC since: May 05
Charting since: May 05
Known issues: m/c 1/06

Ptcrn (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bed5d)
Me: Jen/30
DH: Gerry/29
Married since: July 30th 2005
Off BCP since: August 14th 2005
TTC and Charting since: August 14th 2005
Known issues/test results: none

Purplesunshine7
Me:
DH:
Married since: 4/5/03
Off BCP since:
TTC since: 7/05
Known issues/test results: m/c 6/2/05

Quartercentury (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3313f)
Me: QC, 27
FH: just FH, also 27
Married since: nope, we're skipping straight to the baby part
Off BCP since: no BCP, off hormonal contraceptives since 10/2003
TTC since: 12/05
Charting since: 10/03
Known issues/test results: Sometimes short LP

Roberta (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10827a)
Me: roberta, 27
DH: zak, 29
Married since: 11/15/03
Off BCP since: 10/05
TTC since: 10/05
Charting since: 12/05
Known issues/test results: Miscarried naturally @ 7 weeks 11/05

Sare79 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/fe765)
Me: Sarah, 26
DH: Joel, 26
Married since: October 15, 2005
Off BCP since: May, 2005
TTC since: June 2005
Charting since: November 1, 2005
Known issues/test results: m/c in 2002

suzfuzsunflower (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/90828)
Me: Susannah
DH: Matt
Married since: 8/9/03
Off BCP since: 3/05
TTC since: 3/05
Charting since: 3/05
Known issues/test results: annovulatory, long cycles; taking clomid

TazLuv (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e80b5)
Me: CM/29
DH: BM/29
Married since: July 2002
Off BCP since: June 2005
TTC since: Aug 2005
Charting since: 9/23/05
Known issues/test results: Loooooooong cycles

[Charting is Knowledge]

Things I Have Learned About TTC
by WC's Sherylb

* TTC is a journey. You will discover things about yourself that you never expected. You will face fears you never thought you had. You will find joy in little things.

* TTC can bring you closer to your DH, or it can pull you apart. If your marriage is not solid, you will find out quickly.

* No one understands exactly what you are feeling at any given moment, but someone can empathize at least a little bit.

* You will experience an emotional roller coaster ride. There will be highs and lows and fast moments and slow. Sometimes you have to wait in a very, very slow moving line. You may not even get the seat you want. It is not always fun, it can be scary, but in the end it is worth it.

* "Just relax" is the last thing in the world you want to hear from someone, but it is OK if you say it about yourself.

* There will be moments when you question your own decision to start TTC. You will wonder if you should wait or if you should just give up. Those are normal. But you will get past those feelings.

* The blue and green turtle likes to pop its head out! You will hear of someone's pregnancy and turn green with envy and blue inside because it isn't you.

* It isn't fair, it isn't easy, and it isn't pretty. But you keep doing it because the reward is worth it.

* You will be your best friend and your worst enemy. Your body will
surprise you and yet disappoint you.

* Some women do get lucky and conceive right away. Others aren't so lucky and have to struggle to get there. Hope you will be in the first category, but prepare yourself to be in the second.

* Once you decide to TTC, there will be babies and pregnant women everywhere! You could swear there is a baby boom going on!

* You will have questions. No one will ever be in exactly your position, so don't be surprised when no one can give you exactly the answer you are looking for. But there are people that can contribute, so don't be afraid to ask!

• Two lines on a pregnancy test is not the end of the struggle. Pregnancy has lots of struggles in and of itself.

[Charting is Knowledge]

HPT sensitivity chart

These numbers might come in handy when shopping for HPTs.
The lower the amount of mIU measured, the more sensitive the test is!

AimStick Pregnancy Test Strip 20 mIU
AccuHome Midstream Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Pregnancy Test (Cup) 25 mIU
Clearblue +/- 25 mIU
Clearblue Digital 25 mIU
Confirm 1-Step Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Dollar Store Brand Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Equate Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
First Response Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
One Step Be Sure Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Precise Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Quickview Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Walgreen Digital 25 mIU
e.p.t. Home Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
Fact Plus Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
CVS Cartridge Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
CVS Midstream Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Drug Emporium Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. + / - Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. Certainty Digital Test 50 mIU
early Pregnancy test 50 mIU
RiteAid Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Target Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
WalMart Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Walgreens Pregnancy Test 100 mIU

[Charting is Knowledge]

- Common TTC abbreviations

This is a list of some of the more common TTC abbreviations. I know as a newcomer to the TTC threads, it can be hard to keep them all straight. I hope these will help, and if anyone has any they would like added, please let me know!


•2WW: "2 week wait" - The approximate time from possible conception to menstruation due date; Pregnancy tests should be taken near the end of the 2WW.
•AF: "Aunt Flo"; Your period; Menstruation
•AFNW: "Aunt Flo Not Wanted"; the day your period is expected to start, but you are hoping it doesn't!
•AO: anovulatory (cycle without ovulation)
•BBs: "boobs"; breasts
•BBL: "be back later"
•BBT: Basal Body Thermometer; This is used to measure your basal body temperature, when you wake up in the morning, after at least 3 hours of sleep, before you start to move around; Use a special BBT thermometer to take your temperature because they measure the small changes in temperature from day to day more accurately than the regular fever thermometers.
•BCP: Birth control pills
•BD'ing: "baby dancing"; baby-making intercourse
•BFN: "Big Fat Neutral" or “Big Fat Negative”; Negative pregnancy test.
•BF'ing: breast-feeding
•BRB: "be right back"
•CD: cycle day; a particular day in your menstrual cycle (example: CD1 is the first day of your period)
•CL: Cover Line; a visual tool used to separate the low (pre-ovulatory) temps from high (post-ovulatory) temps; a coverline is typically based on the temperatures 6 days prior to ovulation.
•CM: cervical mucous; one of the most useful clues your body can give you in predicting your fertility; it can range from dry, creamy, sticky, or (the most fertile) egg white/watery type.
•CF: cervical fluid; same as cervical mucus
•CP: cervical position; an optional, but sometimes really useful, fertility sign; CP will generally be low, firm and closed before and after ovulation, and high, soft and open during your fertile time.
•DD: "dear daughter"
•DH: "dear husband"
•DS: "dear son"
•DPO: Days Past Ovulation; number of days from your post-ovulatory temperature rise. (Example: 1DPO is the day after your ovulation)
•Endo: endometriosis (can be a fertility problem)
•EDC and EDD: estimated date of confinement (antiquated, but still used by physicians) and estimated date of delivery
•EPT: a brand of pregnancy test, or, generic for "early pregnancy test"
•EW or EWCM: egg white cervical mucus; the most fertile quality CM; it is slippery, clear and stretchy, like egg whites; also EWCF
•FAM: Fertility Awareness Method; the method of fertility and/or birth control that correlates the physical changes you experience during your cycle to predict when you are most fertile
•FF: Fertility Friend, an online (free, for basic services) fertility charting site (website); (could also be formula feeding; check context)
•FM: fertility monitor
•FMU: first morning urine
•FP: follicular phase; the phase before ovulation, where the egg matures in the ovaries
•FRED: First Response Early Detection (pregnancy test)
•HCG: human chorionic gonadotropin; the hormone that is present during pregnancy and what the HPT's and blood test measure to determine if you are pregnant
•HTH: "hope that helps"
•HPT: home pregnancy test; a urine pregnancy test you can take at home
•IMHO: "in my humble opinion"
•IMO: "in my opinion"
•IUI: intra-uterine insemination
•IVF: in vitro fertilization
•KU: knocked up
•LH: leutenizing hormone; the LH surge is what is measured by the OPKs; this hormone signals the egg to burst from the ovary
•LP: luteal phase; the phase of your cycle that begins just after ovulation and continues for 10-18 days, ending with the start of your next period; during the LP, your body continues to build up the lining of your uterus, and produce hormones which would support a pregnancy; this is the time when a fertilized egg can implant into the uterine lining
•NFP: Natural Family Planning; similar to FAM, but with abstinence during the fertile period
•O, Oing, Oed: ovulation, ovulating, or ovulated
•OPK: ovulation predictor kit; tests for presence of LH surge that usually precedes ovulation by 12-48 hours; these tests are quite expensive and not always accurate (if you take medication or depending on your age); these are optional when charting with FF, but if your fertility data is not clear it can bring more light and help interpret difficult cases
•OS: Ovusoft; charting software based on TCOYF
•PCOS: polycystic ovarian syndrome (a fertility problem)
•PG: pregnant
•PIAC: pee in a cup
•POAS: pee on a stick
•RE: reproductive endocrinologist
•SA: semen analysis
•SH: "sweet husband"
•SO: "significant other"
•SYS, SYL : See ya soon! or See ya later!
•TCOYF: Taking Charge Of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler; a book and website about charting and fertility.
•TMI: "too much information" - There is no such thing when TTC!
•TTA: "trying to avoid"
•TTC: "trying to conceive"
•TTFN: "ta-ta for now"
•TTYL, TTYS: "talk to you later" or "talk to you soon"

[Charting is Knowledge]

Resources borrowed from Still At It:

Abbreviations and acronyms
List of TTC & IF acronyms written out (http://womens-place.com/ttc/ttcacronyms.php)

HPT Sensitivity Comparison Charts
Fertility Plus (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hpt.html)
Pee On A Stick (http://www.peeonastick.com/hpts.html)
Mama's Ark (http://www.mamasark.com/hpt.htm)
Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com/pregnancy-test-sensitivity.html)
Remember, the hCG starts at 1 at implantation and increases as time goes on, so the smaller amount of hCG it measures, the more sensitive the test is!

Books
Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler, MPH (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060937645/qid=1041654042/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

The Fertility Sourcebook by M. Sara Rosenthal, PHD (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0737303808/qid=1042220393/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)

Inconceivable by Ben Elton (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385334656/qid=1041659461/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)
The movie "Maybe Baby" (below) is based on this book

Inconceivable: A Woman's Triumph Over Despair and Statistics
by Julia Indichova (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0767908201/qid=1059292613/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

The Infertility Diet: Get Pregnant & Prevent Miscarriage by Fern Reiss (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1893290395/qid=1059292976/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

Conquering Infertility: Dr. Domar's Mind/Body Guide to Enhancing
Fertility & Coping with Infertility by Alice Domar, Phd (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0670031550/qid=1059293116/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/103-2812959-1358247)


Girlfriend to Girlfriend: A Fertility Companion by Kristen Magnacca (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1588202135/qid=1082306449/sr=8-2/ref=pd_ka_2/104-9895052-8814318?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

Movies
Maybe Baby (2001) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000062XKW/qid=1041654127/sr=8-4/ref=sr_8_4/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=video&n=507846)

She's Having A Baby (1988) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6300988996/qid%3D1041654195/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-0287896-1655948)

Websites (by subject)

Charting
Ovusoft aka TCOYF (http://www.ovusoft.com/)
The site for Toni Weschler's book which includes message boards, chat and cycle galleries which are very helpful.

Fertility Friend (www.fertilityfriend.com)
A free charting site which includes a lot of information and cycle galleries.

Local Support
RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/chapters/resolvenearyou.jsp?name=chapters)
Nation-wide referrals to local support groups and therapists.

The American Infertility Association (http://www.americaninfertility.org)
Lots of information and support, including message boards and chat rooms.

Financial Concerns
ARC: Advanced Reproductive Care (http://www.arcfertility.com/)
information on financing infertility treatments

Family Fee Plan (http://www.amerifee.com/fertility-financing/index.asp)
information on financing infertility treatments

State Insurance Requirements (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/advocacy/insurance/index.jsp?name=advocacy&tag=insurance)
Links from the Resolve site about insurance & laws.

Inciid's Insurance pages (http://www.inciid.org/index.php)
Click through menu on right for more financial topics and the insurance forum.

General TTC
Trying To Conceive.com (http://www.tryingtoconceive.com/)
All things TTC! Lots of info as well as a place to buy herbal therapies for
conceiving.

Baby Med (http://www.babymed.com/)
Tons of information. Everything from Chinese gender charts to an FAQ section on pretty much any TTC question you could have.

Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com)
Baby makin' supplies!

OBGYN.net (http://www.obgyn.net/)
Lots of general info on women's health. They also have doctors on line who
answer questions.

Infertility Sites
INCIID (http://www.inciid.org/)
Pronounced "inside". (The International Council on Infertility Information Dissemination)
Excellent national resource.

Resolve (http://www.resolve.org)
Wonderful site with lots of infertility information and support.

I dream of baby (http://www.idreamofbaby.com/fertility.php)
Learn the basics of fertility issues here. This site also has a great message
board community!

Fertility Plus.org’s list of female hormone levels (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hormonelevels.html#female)
Starting your fertility work-up? Check out this site to see a list of the
commonly tested female hormone levels, the function of each hormone, and the normal levels of each hormone.

Shared Journey (http://www.sharedjourney.com)
Shared Journey is dedicated to providing quality information on topics such as
infertility, miscarriage, surrogacy, pregnancy after infertility, living
child-free, and adoption. Our information is supplied by well noted Reproductive
Endocrinologist's, Psychologists, Adoption professionals and links through
various sites.

FertileHeart (http://www.fertileheart.com)
A community of people exploring holistic approaches to fertility. A site by
author Julia Indichova (see books above)

Specific IF Issues
Soul Cysters (http://www.soulcysters.com)
PCOS site with lots of support and info

Dr. Beer (http://www.repro-med.net)
Reproductive Immunology information, including lists of tests, pricing, local referrals

Reproductive Immunology Support (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/immunologysupport/)
Yahoo group for RI patients, tons of info and articles

Info for Family and Friends
Empty Arms (http://www.vocalicious.com/empty_arms/empty_arms_mod.html)
This is a great video so they can understand what you're going through. (And get out your kleenex!)


Post away!!!!

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[ellidew]

Thanks threadmistress!

I'm here! Wasn't in the old one for very long though :D Hopefully we all have a short stay here!

UPDATE: Please add to my "known issues" Ovarian Cysts and is it possible to change my name to spell with a lower case e? I never recognize it with an upper case E! I'm weird, i know!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Could we please get everyone just to review the personal information above to ensure it is correct? We're trying to make sure it is kept up to date!
Please make sure you post updates in red! :)

[lawgirl4]

subscribing!

I can't believe how fast this thread moves... wow!

So, I am having a dilemma. I usually go to a step aerobics class on weds nights, but I don't want to work my body too hard!!! Theoretically, I know that's ridiculous, but I'm thinking I might just walk on the treadmill while DH goes to his spinning class.

[Sare79]

The last thread only lasted 6 days!!! :eek:

[LDS Angel 19]

We're on a roll! Yay!

I say this every time there is a new thread, but I'm going to try to keep up better/respond more. I learn so much in this thread!
FF called my O date, I don't know if I like it though. Temp today was below the coverline...:confused:
One way or another, I'll probably wait to test until the end of the month. Gosh that seems far away!

[JayJay]

subscribing! I can't believe that the last thread only lasted six days! That's crazy!

I have a confession to make: I think that maybe some of you thought that I was the MBFP. My chart said I was, but it's not true. I totally marked the wrong test result in the box. How embarrasing. :o

Please don't hate me!

Hoping that my temp stays up tomorow. I've been really cold today, and a little, tiny bit crampy. But they don't really feel like AF cramps yet. Here's hoping! I've also been peeing alot today. Like 5 times. That's alot for me. Normally, I only go once, maybe twice during the day.

I don't have any tests in the house, and that's probably a good thing. Won't drive myself crazy that way I guess.

[Deanna1018]

MrsJackson....I don't hate you...mistakes happen. I hope you have a bfp to post soon...and I hope I am posting one right behind you :) I am hoping my temp stays up tomorrow too! I would be upset if it didn't because too many of the symptoms I am having are already pointing at AF returning soon. I have three tests that are ready and waiting for me. I may test tomorrow. Good luck!!!!!

[JayJay]

Deanna1018, thanks for not hating me. I was really embarrased to come back to the thread and have to out myself for being hopeful.

I hope that we both get our BFP's soon. Really, really soon. Am I being greedy? :D

[Deanna1018]

MrsJackson...Nothing wrong with being greedy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will be greedy right along with you!!!!!! :)

[Hula1974]

Michelle - I think we are cycle buddies! I'm on 11DPO also. Got a BFN yesterday. I hope there is still plenty of time this cycle for our BFP's. Temps look great!!

Lawgirl - great suggestion on the signature thing!

[mimieliza]

LDS Angel - I know what you mean. The calendar just seems to move so slowly now! I'm hoping/expecting to O in about 3-4 weeks. That's after freaking Valentine's Day!

MrsJackson and Deanna - Hoping for some BFPs for both of you!


I need advice on OPKs. I think I'm going to use them this cycle. Are the ones from early-pregnancy-tests.com any good? Does it matter where I get them? I just want them to be cheap. I'm thinking of starting with the OPKs on CD 14, so I could be using as many as 15.

And how do I use them, exactly? When I get a positive test, is it too late to BD and catch the egg?

[TazLuv]

Wow this does move fast. Congrats octoberkate!

As for me I got my CD3 tests back today and they were all normal, so that is good. Since my last "cycle" was only two days of spotting I'm now going to take medroxyprogesterone (yikes!) for 5 days to induce menses. Then take clomid CD3-7 and go from there. I'm starting with 50mg so we'll do progesterone tests on CD19 and repeat as necessary.

I've updated my chart to show the BD and I think I'm good in the waiting to O category.

[polarama]

Threadmistress, please put me in the what-the-hell-is-going-on category. :) And here's a link to my chart (http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=polarama). Thank you!

So as noted below, I'm really baffled by my chart. There is a temp spike, but then a dip and no AF. The simplest answer is that I'm anovulatory and the temp spike wasn't a true thermal shift. I am hoping for AF soon so I can start charting afresh. This last cycle, I didn't seriously monitor CM and CP, and I did a LOT of traveling (the dates where I had no temps recorded are days I flew to/from Asia).

*sigh* I know it hasn't been that long, but it is very nerve-wracking and frustrating.

[ptcrn]

I say this every time there is a new thread, but I'm going to try to keep up better/respond more.

LDSAngel, I'm with you! This thread moves so quickly, and I have the best of intentions to keep up with it, but I just don't! I will really try better this month.

I am still waiting to O, CD 12 here. I'm guessing in about 3 days since my cycles are so predictable. I'm really working on increasing my CM. I would so love to see EWCM for the first time!

Congrats to octoberkate and the other BFP's I missed in the last thread!

polarama, I'm not really sure, but it doesn't look like you've O'd yet to me. Keep your chin up!

[MichelleRenee]

Wow. I go to school for one day and miss the starting of a whole new thread!

Congrats to octoberkate!

I am feeling very down tonight. I have been spotting all day (more than usual for my first day of spotting) and I feel crampy and I am just mad that AF is coming. I wanted this to be it for us and I just don't feel like I can make it through another cycle of wondering and waiting and worrying. I just feel drained.:(

[Baby Lust]

Dropping off some fresh dust for you all to roll around in! Good luck to you all! There are some beautiful charts out there!



~*~*~*~*~*~*BABY DUST*~*~*~*~*~*~

[spencer's_girl]

just thought I would stop by the new thread to drop off some fresh
*~*~*~*babydust*~*~*~*

[Deanna1018]

Well I am starting to get depressed. I woke up this morning to some spotting. No temp drop though (98.4) Unsure if it is implantation spotting or the start of the dreaded AF. I guess only time will tell over the course of the day. I have to say that this spotting is a bright red rather then the normal brown color that I inititally see when AF is going to start. When I did check my CM this morning I did notice a very very minimal amount of "TMI ALERT" stringy brown discharge that I know is left over lining from my last cycle. For any of you experts out there does that probably mean that the evil AF is on its way?

Of course everything about this cycle has been abnormal from the acute pain I had with ovulation, to the flat line temp I got for most of the beginning and end of this cycle, and then the outrageous back/abdominal pain that I had.
If this is AF then it would make my DPO this cycle 9 days which is another blow because my last 2 LP's were 11 days and 12 days respectively. I hope this isn't a trend. I am a little concerned about this.

I know that this is our first month of TTC and I really have nothing to complain about but I am very disappointed. Oh I also took a hpt this morning and that came back negative but I know that if what I had is implantation spotting I may not have a bfp till dpo12 or beyond.

Not a good day here. At least my day is jam packed with patients so I won't have a lot of free time to think about it till I get home. Thanks for letting me vent.

[jodylovesscotty]

Thanks for the new thread threadmistresses:)

Can you please move me to Oed and testing Jan. 31stEven though I said I will test I am not feeling hopeful this month with DH's SA. The nurse called yesterday and said it was slightly abnormal, whatever that means. However they still want to go on with the HSG and start me on clomid. Hopeful that we will get a baby this year!!!!

[Kimmer]

Deanna1018- I am crossing my fingers and toes for you that you will get your BFP later in your cycle. This is my first month TTC as well and it is just as important as any other:)

I will be testing on the 31st if I can hold out that long FF says that is the date to go with.

[lawgirl4]

good morning everyone!

so, FF is calling my O-date for Monday - but I'm not sure if it should be monday or tuesday. the difference of a day doesn't really matter given our BD-ing schedule...we'll see!

now I get to move on to the next obsession - my LP. It has declined with each cycle since I went off of the pill (from 13 to 11 to 9) and I am just hoping that I don't have a progesterone issue. Fingers crossed for this cycle!

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polarama - I can't figure out why ovusoft called your O-date when it did - it seemed very arbitrary. Do you check CM? With those erratic temps and your traveling, I think that monitoring your CM would really help you understand what is going on.

Deanna - I don't think you're crazy for feeling upset even though this is your first cycle - I know that I will be feeling the same way if it doesn't happen this cycle. *hugs*

jodylovesscotty and kimmer - I'm testing around the same time as you guys - think positively! jody - can you post a link to your chart in your signature? kimmer, can you publish your BD data?

[Jenzen01]

Just checking in ...

CD10 today. Time to get the show on the road. :) I'm still getting negative OPKs, but I've got EWC, so something must be happening.

Jen

[LDS Angel 19]

MrsJackson No worries, we're not mad. I hope you get that BFP soon.

mimieliza You said it. When you're TTC, it's almost like living in a totally diffrent time zone. I hope you figure out those OPKs.

polarama Yikes. I know how it feels to have a frustrating chart. Hang in there.

ptcrn It's nice to know I'm not the only slacker. :) But hopfully we'll both get BFP's soon and won't need to keep up with this thread, lol. :cool:

Deanna1018 Sorry about the spotting! I hope everything is ok.

Looks like we have a few of us in the dreaded 2ww together. I'll be testing around the same time as jody, kimmer and lawgirl. Fingers crossed for all of us!

Holy crap, I just did so's. Wow. I really am turning over a new leaf, lol.
Like I mentioned, I will be testing the week of 1/29.
Nothing else really going on here. I'm about 7DPO, no FPS to speak of, yet. :D

[mayham]

Wow, a new thread already! No time for shout outs now, but I wanted to give a quick update.

CD 32 -- My temp this morning dipped, but still no AF. I think I've had one cycle ever that was 31 days, so maybe this time is the same. So annoying b/c I couldn't possibly be pg due to the temp drop (right?) and yet no sign of AF. If she's gonna show, I would appreciate it if she did it soon so I could get on with the next cycle and also schedule the HSG!

[ellidew]

Morning ladies. Well, at this point i figure i've got a 50/50 shot at a bfp. I had a temp drop yesterday on 9dpo and it's back up today. (implantation dip?) I only have 1 other fully charted cycle to compare to but by this time in that cycle i was already dropped below where i'm at now. I secretly woke up hoping for a huge temp jump! Maybe tomorrow? My lp is 13-15 days and i'm only on 10. I poas on Tuesday knowing it was going to be a bfn but i couldn't resist. Stupid dollar store tests! I promised myself i wouldn't buy anymore until it is time to test. I'm going to wait until tomorrow and buy one to do after work. If i did have an implantation dip yesterday then i wouldn't get a bfp today anyway! I'm pretty sure it's all wishful thinking anyway. I sincerely doubt we are pg. I'm just not that confident. I always thought that if i got pg that i would know. Stupid, i know. Yesterday i told dh that i didn't think we were pg because 1. It's our first cycle ttc again and 2. we only have a 20% shot at it anyway! I figure the odds are against us :p

Can someone take a gander at my chart and let me know what you think? The link is in my signature.

Deanna1018- Hang in there... it's hard. You could have implantation bleeding. There's no way to know yet especially since you didn't have a temp drop so try not to worry yourself to pieces. I'm right there with you praying for a bfp but filled with doubt. I think it's part of ttc. I blame god :D lol.

jodylovesscotty- Good luck! I'm just hoping for a baby this year too. We first started ttc Jan 2005 (then took a break) but i thought 2005 was going to be our year and it wasn't so 2006 is going to be THE year!

Kimmer & LDS Angel 19- Good luck with your wait!

lawgirl4 All my crossables are crossed for you!

Jenzen01- Lots and lots and lots and lots of baby dust for you! Good luck!

mayham- UGH! Temp drops and no af suck! I'm with you... when that happens i just want to get on with it!

[lawgirl4]

ellidew - I think your chart is definitely looking good! not sure about the implantation dip theory, but it is certainly possible. keeping my fingers crossed for you!

[JayJay]

When I got home last night, I had some Af like cramping going on. When I checked my CM, it also had a brown tinge to it. So, I thought for sure that AF would be here this morning.

Much to my suprise, she's not. The cramping is gone, but there is still a little bit a brown CM. My temp didn't drop like I thought it would, and no AF. Weird. I'm confused.

[jessied1025]

Hello Ladies, Can I join?

Stats:
Me: Jessie (28)
DH: Jim (28)
Married since: Oct. 25, 2003
Off BC since: July 2005
TTC Since: Sept/Oct 2005
Charting Since: Nov 2005
Known Issues: None

Right now I'm on CD26 and I am almost positive AF is on her way. I had a big temp drop a couple of days ago. I have been spotting since Monday, it started as brownish and now is red. I'm not surprised with AF arriving, since we really didn't get a chance to cover our basis and this month has been very stressful for both of us with work and family issues.

Anyway, just wanted to say hi. :)

[bunnybeth]

mayham Yes, I try not to check FF on my screen at work either. Though I wonder how many people would know what it is at a glance?

jeant Sorry AF is coming. :(

cowgirl Thanks for the welcome.

gymwidow And thank you, I'm doing ok now. Enough to really have the baby bug again. :)

Welcome Lilla, glad to see we're in this together. Hoping we'll both get those BFPs soon.

lawgirl I'll try to remember to edit my settings the next time I update. :)

TazLuv Hope that does the trick for you!

Jenzen I think CM is the best O predictor. Though I've never used OPKs so I guess I shouldn't knock 'em. ;)

ellidew That's a very pretty chart there. :) The little "dips" in temp don't really matter, all of your post-O temps are well above the coverline. And, 10DPO is still early, so don't give up hope. If you have perfect BD timing, I'm pretty sure the chances are a bit higher than 20%. I think that number is just overall for fertile couples to get pg in any given cycle. Not just charters like us. And, you CAN get pg your first cycle, I did. And, I totally went back and forth during my 2ww, convinced that I was pg, convinced that I was not pg. Good luck!

MrsJackson That could be implantation spotting. I got a couple of days of what looked like brown CM the week before my BFP. And, cramping then and right when AF would have shown.

Still only CD8 here, and not much is going on. Given past cycles, we'll probably begin the BD fest next week.

EDIT: Welcome Jessied1025, hope your stay is short.

[JayJay]

MrsJackson That could be implantation spotting. I got a couple of days of what looked like brown CM the week before my BFP. And, cramping then and right when AF would have shown.


It could be implantation this late? I'm 15 DPO! If it is implantation spotting, is there any chance that the little bean will stick? Seems kind of late and risky by now. :confused:

[ABirney]

Just checking in... thanks for the new thread!
Congrats Octoberkate!
Welcome lilla, kimmer, and jessied!
Still some nice looking charts out there!
Well I came down with a headcold and sore throat last night.. yuck. So I think that's why my temps are a little up today... not that it matters, they are so wacky anyway! Oh, and my SIL had her dr appt yesterday and scheduled her c-sec.... the official date is Jan 27 at 1pm. So I'll have a new niece in just over a week! I just wish they lived closer... it's a 2 1/2 hr drive and we just don't get there very often.
Well have a great day everyone! Time to get ready for work... blech.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here...

[lawgirl4]

threadmistress, can you please update my stats to "ovulated, waiting to test 1/29-1/31" - thanks!

[Lilla]

Thanks for all the warm welcomes everyone! :)

Threadmistriss: Please find a link to my chart here (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2c0b6)

Anyone feel like helping a poor girl figure out when she really O'ed? FF is saying CD14. I'm wondering if it was more like CD16. My temps are so wacky. Ugh....now you know why I'm not holding out much hope for this cycle.

[jeant]

Please move me to waiting to O

AF showed this morning -- not a surprise considering yesterday's big temp drop, but still unwelcome. Sigh.

[CTs_Punkin]

Well, went in for my baseline U/S before doing the clomid challenge and they found a 2.5cm cyst on my left ovary and another small one on my right side...

So no clomid challenge for me this month. I have to wait and hope that it goes away after this cycle.

I'm beyond frustrated with my body right now. I can't f'ing O on my own, so I take clomid last month... I can't f'ing O on clomid either, but heck, I sure can grow cysts it seems... GRRRR...

Anyhow, just really sad and annoyed right now. It means that there is a good chance I won't be holding a little one in 2006... sigh....since this month is out, then if all goes well next month, I can do the clomid challenge and then after that, who knows, it depends on what the DR says about my blocked fallopian tube. I may need to get a LAP done too. So that puts me out at least 3 months I think...

Anyhow, don't think I'm going to temp this month... I mean, if I haven't O'd on my own for 9 months... why would I this month?? right??? and if we get lucky, we get lucky.

Threadmistress - please update my stats to:
Issues: blocked left fallopian tube
Possible High FSH levels, bloodwork Jan 06 to confirm
Jan 06 Clomid Challenge cancelled due to 2.5cm cyst on left ovary.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here...

Lilla: I put you under "Think I O'ed: testing 1/23-1/29" Let me know if that is not OK.

[MichelleRenee]

I had a big temp drop today and AF is on her way. It is so disappointing to go through this month after month! At least I can be happy about one thing: my cycle is getting shorter every month so at least I don't have to wait quite as long.

[cowgirl]

Sorry no time for S/O today mainly because this thread is moving so Fast. Not sure about this cycle. Thought I had o'd or was heading there but then my temp took I big nose dive today. UGH

Good luck to all that are testing soon.

[lawgirl4]

* yelling out a loud scream *
I am only on dpo 2 or 3 and I can't take it!!!!!! How to deal with this waiting?!?!?!

:D

(feeling better now)

[bunnybeth]

Ok, turns out I have to get going so just a couple of quickies...

MrsJackson Not an expert at FF chart reading (I've been doing paper for years) but was that spotting at 9DPO? That could be implantation spotting. Other stuff could just be random.

Lilla Wonky temps... but I'd say O date was CD16, the CM seems to agree more with the temps at that point. I think figuring out the O date is the hardest part of charting!

[JayJay]

MrsJackson05 Not an expert at FF chart reading (I've been doing paper for years) but was that spotting at 9DPO? That could be implantation spotting. Other stuff could just be random.



That was spotting at 9 DPO. But that was also after BD'ing with my hubby who I hadn't seen for a week. :o Maybe that caused it?

[Deanna1018]

Ellidew....Stay positive. You may just be the next bfp. It is looking good!!!

MrsJackson....keeping my fingers crossed for you.

LawGirl...I know that crazy feeling. I couldn't stand it. I was very very anxious.

MichelleRenee...sorry about the temp drop. I am waiting to get one tomorrow morning. We are both in the same boat...ugh!!!!! I am so impressed that even at a time of disappointment you are still able to see a positive (shorter cycle).

CTs-Punkin.... I am so sorry to hear about the cysts. I don't know anything about cysts...so they can go away with a new cycle? Stay strong!!!! Hoping you get "lucky" this month!!!!

Jeant...sorry to hear about the evil AF returning. I think I will be joining you tomorrow.

Thanks to all of you for your supportive words. I haven't had any further spotting today but I do feel AF coming so it is just a matter of time. With AF not officially coming today I feel alot better because at least I will have made it to dpo10 if AF shows up tomorrow. I am just going to chalk this cycle up to being a very out of ordinary event. I hope my body has gotten it out of it system.

[Sare79]

Nothing new here... still another 10 days until we start the major bd-fest!

Good luck to all those who are testing right now!
Jess- it's looking good still- hang in there!

[polkadot]

wow....i didnt even realize there was a new thread....i have to get my head out of the sand and catch up with life in general....:rolleyes:

so lets see here....

lawgirl- the suspense will kill you...try lurking on twoweekwait.com, or looking at stuff you would like for a baby....or get a good book, its the only way i can get through the 2WW...hope that helps....

Michelle- dont be too discouraged....12DPO is not too late for that to be an implant dip...lets not freak out and get discouraged until we see what tomorrows temp will bring....breathe girlie....breathe....:)

ellidew-that very well could be an implant dip...lets see what tomorrow brings...i had nver had a dip in my charts between day 7-12 and when i got my BFP i had a dip on 8DPO...yes, it didnt stick but i did get a BFP....all crossables crossed for you..

*****
I had a really bad day today...i DID NOT want to get out of bed....and i didnt i called in sick to work and I know that is not what i should have done b/c i left early on Friday when i found out about the whole m/c thing...btu i jsut didnt want to have people askign me all day how are you? are you feeling ok? Do you need anything?
I know they are all trying to be supportive and i dont want anyone to ignore what happened but i would just like to get through the day without one person askign me if I am ok... ok sorry i rambled...i am going to buy OPK's tomorrow....UGHHH i cant beleive i have to go through all of this again....i am sooo bummed

[melg]

* yelling out a loud scream *
I am only on dpo 2 or 3 and I can't take it!!!!!! How to deal with this waiting?!?!?!

:D

(feeling better now)


LOL (with you, not at you) :) I am lurking around on these boards trying to decide if I should start charting, then TTC. I think the additional knowledge might make me go nuts - then I see your post! Good luck, I'll be thinking of you!

QOTD: For those charting, what made you decide to chart? Are you trying specific methods to either conceive a boy or girl?

[melg]

Polka dot - sending good thoughts your way and thinking of you.

wow....i didnt even realize there was a new thread....i have to get my head out of the sand and catch up with life in general....:rolleyes:

so lets see here....

lawgirl- the suspense will kill you...try lurking on twoweekwait.com, or looking at stuff you would like for a baby....or get a good book, its the only way i can get through the 2WW...hope that helps....

Michelle- dont be too discouraged....12DPO is not too late for that to be an implant dip...lets not freak out and get discouraged until we see what tomorrows temp will bring....breathe girlie....breathe....:)

ellidew-that very well could be an implant dip...lets see what tomorrow brings...i had nver had a dip in my charts between day 7-12 and when i got my BFP i had a dip on 8DPO...yes, it didnt stick but i did get a BFP....all crossables crossed for you..

*****
I had a really bad day today...i DID NOT want to get out of bed....and i didnt i called in sick to work and I know that is not what i should have done b/c i left early on Friday when i found out about the whole m/c thing...btu i jsut didnt want to have people askign me all day how are you? are you feeling ok? Do you need anything?
I know they are all trying to be supportive and i dont want anyone to ignore what happened but i would just like to get through the day without one person askign me if I am ok... ok sorry i rambled...i am going to buy OPK's tomorrow....UGHHH i cant beleive i have to go through all of this again....i am sooo bummed

[jbemommy]

melg I started charting after 5 months of "seeing what happened". It didn't take this long with DD #1, so I was hoping to see if there was a problem with my cycles and just to be able to time BD'ing better.
I'm 9DPO now--I really don't want to wait another week to test!! I wish there was some sort of Star Trek type scanner that would just say if you're pregnant or not--it would make life so much less stressful. I had another night of waking frequently, so no temp again today.

[magrat]

FF is really confusing me. I don't for a second believe I O'd yet, why does it think I did?

[Hula1974]

I think I missed one....Congrats Octoberkate!

[polkadot]

FF is really confusing me. I don't for a second believe I O'd yet, why does it think I did?

That is weird that it called you O so early. and you didnt report any fertile CM either....what setting do you have it on? Advanced or FAM? that could make a difference....maybe it will change your o date once you get some fertile CM or if your temps stay on the lower side like they are now. I would not stop Bding...until you think you o'ed....do you use OPK's?

sorry for all the questions...jsut trying to help out ;)

[polkadot]

A Letter To the Female Reproductive System (herein referred to as “That Unpredictable, Untrustworthy, and Generally Unattractive Mess of Leaky Pipes”):

Friends, Citizens, Countrymen, Vaginas…

It is time to make a stand. For millennia, we have allowed you to control our every thought, action, and pore with your necessary hormones and discriminatory behavior (white pants deserve the same respect as black or brown!). But now, as we try to use you for your ultimate purpose, we seem to be heading down a dangerous and divisive path.

At such a time of hope and fear, you give us nothing concrete. As we meticulously log every twinge and pang, you secretly gloat at our uncertainty, and set out to confuse us even more with vague cramps, loose stools, and bloated bellies that resemble someone in their second trimester, though we just ovulated thirteen days ago.

We protest against the 2 week wait!

We protest at the contortions, poking, and peeing that you put us through twice a month!

We are outraged and ashamed that our bodies would keep secrets and cause us to rely on strips, saliva, and your tricky little sidekick, Cervical Mucous.

We call for you to abide by both the spirit and the good intentions we have displayed since the day you first made yourself known to us as The Harbinger of the Witch. We have cared for you, cleaned up after you, and defended you against the devils on our shoulders whispering not to trust a thing you say, do, or secrete.

Our demands are simple:

1) Notification at least three days prior, but no less than one day prior to ovulation, allowing us to stock the necessary decongestants, lubrications, and Viagra if necessary.

2) Clear and unmistakable signs of fertilization (note: as we are in the 21st century, emails and/or instant or text messages are preferred)

3) A separate notification of implantation (our bellybuttons serve no use as is, perhaps you can work something out with them for this one)

We do not think this is too much to ask. We receive such cooperation from other organ systems (please see Urinary Tract with any questions you may have).

Sincerely,

The Undersigned
(Please post a comment with your demands/suggestions for IMPROVING the reproductive system!) :-)

[ellidew]

Thanks for the encouragement ladies. I'm going to bed now hoping for a temp increase in the morning. If my temp goes down i'm probably out :(

[magrat]

I would not stop Bding...until you think you o'ed....do you use OPK's?

I know, but I'm getting worn out! DH has literally never gotten this much action, even when we were first together! I don't use OPKs, I'm only in my second month off the pill and I don't suspect any problems yet. I expect I'll O in the next few days - I better - DH is going away on business on Saturday! I'm just using the normal advanced settings.

[ABirney]

Hey ladies. Just thought I'd check in again to try to stay caught up on s/o's.
Yay for O'ing lawgirl!
jeant sorry the witch showed.
CTsPunkin sorry to hear about the cysts. Hopefully things clear up next cycle and they can go ahead with the Clomid.
lilla I would say O on CD16 but I'm no expert.
cowgirl that's quite a dip. I know sometimes you can have a pre-O dip, maybe that's what's happening? Or was it extra cold in the bedroom this am?
Curious to see what happens tomorrow.
MichelleRenee grr sorry AF is coming.
polkadot hope you are feeling better soon! That was a cute letter you posted too! lol
Have a great night all!

[MichelleRenee]

Edited because I am being obsessive. I will be back when it is not 2:30 am and I am a little bit more normal...

[Deanna1018]

Well the old hag (AF) arrived this morning :mad: . I am obviously disappointed. I am even more disappointed then I would normally be because I am going to see my 93 year old grandmother this afternoon and I wanted to be able to tell her we were pregnant. She has terminal cancer and from what my Dad said she is getting weaker very quickly so he is thinking that she doesn't have long. Anyway maybe I will just tell her that we are trying to get pregnant...I think that she would be happy to hear that too.

I had a short cycle (25 days) this time around which concerns me. It has gotten shorter each cycle. So now I have had a 10 LP(this time around), a 11 LP and 12 LP. I don't know if I should be concerned or not. I guess I will see what this cycle brings. I am also concerned about the back pain that I had for the better part of the week. I am now thinking that it may have been from lying around all day (and I REALLY mean lying down ALL DAY...4 movies worth...we were recovering from a crazy party the night before) on Sunday on a futon couch (not the best as far as back support goes). Thanks for letting me ramble. I am just trying to figure out all the crazy things that happened this cycle.

Well there is one good thing about AF arriving...I am going to have a drink tonight. I can't wait. I need one soooo bad. Work has been crazy and I just need to sit back and relax. Well I get out at 12 pm today but am heading about 1 hour out of town to see my grandmother. Hopefully I won't hit any bad weather. Have a great day ladies.

Threadmistress please move me to "waiting to O". Thank you!

[Hula1974]

I am currently staring at my test and trying to decide if I'm hallucinating a faint line....

:eek: aaaaaaahhhhhhh:eek:

Tried to take a pic so I could get some other opinions but it's not really showing up in the picture and my camera doesn't seem to want to let me take a really close up shot. I've seen a lot of HPT pics on here before and they all look great. Hmmm.

[cowgirl]

CTs Punkin I am sorry you are going through this. Taking a temping break sounds like a good idea. Hope you get more answers soon.
Lawgirl I hear you it is hard to wait to test or see if AF is coming.
Polkadot I don’t blame you for not wanting to go to work. So sorry you are having to deal with all of this.
melgQOTD? I started charting since we had been trying for a while with no luck. Wanted to see what was actually going on with my body.
magrat Not sure what is going on. Sorry I am not more help.
Abriney I am hoping that it was that kinda of a dip. My room was not any cooler then normal. Temp was up today.
jeant & Deanna Sorry that AF showed her ugly head.
Hula Hope that it is a line. Keep us updated.

So my temp was up today not as high as it has been but keeping fingers crossed that I o'd because that would have made are timeing pretty good. Have a great weekend.

[ellidew]

Hula1974 That's awesome! You're probably not hallucinating! Congratulations.

I got a BFN :( I guess i'm not completely out yet but my hopes are dwindling.

[charliezangel]

Just jumping in. I'm on CD4 and this is my first time charting. Amazingly enough, I have remembered to temp every morning!!! Here's my goods...

CC Name: Charliezangel
Me: Emily 23
DH: Daniel 31
Married since: 5-22-05
Off BCP since: 11-23-05
TTC since: 1-6-06
Charting since: 1-17-06
Chart: not sure how to link from ff
Current status: Waiting to O

[Lilla]

bunnybeth and ABirney thanks for peeking at my chart and letting me know what you think. I also tend to think I O'ed on CD16 - I hope so anyway....our BD timing would be much better if that was the case. I almost wonder if my temps are so wacky because my body is still a little wigged out from the m/c. Who knows.

Hula Yay! I sure hope that is indeed a line you see!!! :D

ellidew Don't give up yet - your temp is still up there! Keeping my fingers crossed.

Welcome charliezangel!

Nothing much to report today. I'm calling it 6DPO today, so I have another whole week before I really start wigging out. Trying to keep my mind off it....

[ausi2b]

Hi All -

Sorry I've been MIA. I'm trying to give myself a break from this obsession I call TTC. But let's be honest - its not working. I o'd on CD 14, but my temps were screwed up. I got FF to override my O date (FF was saying it was CD 13, but I got positive OPKs on CD 14 and CD 15 - come on people!), but they also messed up my coverline, so it looks whacked out. I have a cold and find myself waking up to temp with my mouth wide open a few days, which has made my temps wacky. I've had two break down cry fests over TTC this week. Sigh ... I'm debating not temping next month ... but I want a full set of charts to bring to my doctor in April. He said he'd run tests then.

So long story short. Congrats to the BFPs and also to the maybe-BFPs :) I'm here reading along, but trying to keep myself calm. I suppose I'll test in 4 days or so, but gosh this is exhausting!!

[mayham]

Threadmistress, can you please move me to waiting to O?

AF came yesterday, so I scheduled the HSG for next week. I'll spend the time before then trying not to think about the very uncomfortable sounding procedure... Okay, now I am going to attempt shout outs!

ellidew - sorry about the BFN, I hope things turn around for you!
cowgirl - that's great you had good timing, that makes the wait go a little easier!
MrsJackson05 - it stinks when we're expecting AF, and she throws us for a loop and doesn't show up right away.
jessied1025 - welcome! Sorry things have been stressful for you lately. I hope you get a bfp in this next cycle to turn things aruond for you!
bunnybeth - I don't think most people could tell what FF is if they saw it on my computer screen. It's more that I don't want it in my viewing history, in case big brother is watching. Though, if they were reading the pages I'm on at cc, it would be pretty obvious I'm ttc.
ABirney - hope you feel better soon!
jeant - sorry about AF. I am in the exact same boat as you, she showed up yesterday for me too :( Here's to this cycle -- i hope this is it for both of us!
CTs_Punkin - I'm so sorry things are on hold for you while you wait to see how the other things turn out. I know how hard it is to be patient after all this waiting... I hope everything gets cleared up soon so you can get back on track (I really hope you get a surprise bfp while you're waiting)!
MichelleRenee - I hear you, the big temp drop is the worst, I hate those mornings. At least your cycles are getting shorter, mine was 1 day longer this time (though it seemed like it was an extra week!). I hope this is the last cycle we have to wait through!
lawgirl4 - waiting is the worst! I find reading, watching tv, movies helps a lot... anything to keep me from thinking too much!
Deanna1018 - sorry about AF. I think it would be so nice to share the news that you're trying with your grandmother. I hope you get your bfp soon and that you'll still be able to share that news with her.
polkadot - I'm sorry you have to go through this again. It must be so annoying to have all of those questions asked, even if they're asked with good intentions.
melg - I decided to chart so I could see when I O'd, and how long my LP is. I also wanted to have the data to show the dr., since we've been trying for a while.
jbemommy - let me know when you develop the pregnancy scanner, okay? :)
Hula1974 - if you saw it, it's probably there! Congrats!
Lilla - good luck in your 2ww!
charliezangel - welcome!

[lawgirl4]

hey girls! 4dpo today! getting closer... :p
so last night DH and I watched the documentary Mad Hot Ballroom (http://www.paramountclassics.com/madhot/) and I was bursting into tears every few minutes! (for those of you who don't know, this is *not* a sad movie! it's a documentary about the 5th grade ballroom dancing program in NYC public schools.) Now, I am the type of person who has been known to tear up at a kleenex commercial, but I definitely was surprised at the waterworks last night. DH was like "you are so PG" but a. it's way too early, IMO, for any symptoms, and b. the early PG symptoms are often identical to PMS! Aargh. So I second jbemommy's request for the PG scanner! ;)

got to run to a meeting - back later for replies!

[bunnybeth]

CD 9 and still no sign of real CM. It's looking like my guess of not Oing until at least late next week will probably be correct. Ah well. Going to a co-ed baby shower this weekend with DH and a couple of our friends. We even got a joke gift (a super girly pink "diaper" bag) for the father-to-be.:p

MrsJackson05 Yes, that could be it. All the spotting could be for other reasons, and not everyone gets implantation spotting. Crossing my fingers for you still!

melg I started charting as birth control. So, of course I'm now using it for TTC.

magrat FF is on crack, I swear. If you took out the 1 low temp, it wouldn't look like a temp jump at all. Do you think your temp may have been off that morning at all?

polkadot Thank you for posting that letter, so funny! :D

Deanna1018 Sorry AF showed. :( I think telling your grandmother is a good idea if you're comfortable with it. Either that you're trying or waiting a bit to see if you get pg. I ended up not telling mine right away (mostly because I was waiting for her to have a lucid enough moment to remember who I am) and now I wish I had been able to.

Hula1974 Oooo! Hope that is a *real* line!

Welcome charliezangel! Hope your stay is short. :)

Lilla My temps are definately stranger than usual this cycle. Crossing my fingers for you!

mayham Sorry AF showed up. :( Yeah, good point on that. But, I don't really care about my viewing history so much. (Who cares what random people in IT or wherever know?) It more my direct coworkers who I have to see every day. Guess I'll view charts with more abandon now. :D

Dang, smilies count as images! I'm an emoticon addict, how can they do this to me?

[JayJay]

Okay ladies, still no AF. No cramps, no nothing. But I do have a headache. My temp dropped a little bit again this morning, but is still well above the coverline.

Something strangem happened last night, and it may be a little bit TMI for you all.



******************************TMI***************** ***************


DH noticed a clear fluid coming out of my nipples last night. What the hell is that? I've never had that before. This morning when I looked at them, it was still there. I'm actually kind of disturbed by it, not knowing what it is. And ideas?

[Jenzen01]

MrsJacskson - That is wild. If you were preggers, I'd say it was colustrum (sp?), but even then, you'd have to be VERY preggers for that to happen. Hey, do you think you could have Od a few days later than your chart says?

Hula - I hope your line gets darker. :)

Nothing much happening here. I thought I had lots of EWC the other day, but nothing now. No temp jump yet, no positive OPK, so who knows what. We're just keeping at it until my body kicks into gear. I'm on CD11, and I Od on CD16 last month, so I guess it could be a few days yet.

[lawgirl4]

mrsjackson - no ideas on the clear fluid, but here's what I think about your chart. I am wondering if you didn't O until CD26. That would make you 11dpo today, which technically would still be early with regards to testing. However, that theory would run contrary to your CM patterns. So my 2nd theory is that perhaps you are just one of those statistical outliers who took longer to implant, hence your HCG levels are still too low to show up on a HPT, and that's why you are getting BFNs. Remember that all the statistics we read about and base our own experiences on are generally just averages - meaning there are people on both sides of the numbers. Have you spoken to your doctor? That could provide you with some peace of mind...

bunnybeth - love your joke baby shower present! I am sure that will provide a lot of laughs :)

mayham - hugs!! hope that the HSG goes well.

ausi2b - I totally hear you on the obsession thing (and I am only in my first two week wait!!). Part of me has been thinking that I shouldn't temp during the 2WW, but I too want to have complete charts just in case I need them down the road. I think that would be really helpful for your doctor, so I would keep charting, despite the mental/emotional side effects!

Lilla - I'm 4dpo today, so we're pretty close to each other... I am really going to try not to focus on all this over the weekend - I need a mental break! but this time next week - I am sure I'll be nuts!

charliezangel - welcome!!! good luck charting and TTC!

ellidew - keep thinking positively. cheering for you!

cowgirl - hoping that you O'ed!

Hula - WOW! hope it's not a hallucination!!

[JayJay]

mrsjackson - no ideas on the clear fluid, but here's what I think about your chart. I am wondering if you didn't O until CD26. That would make you 11dpo today, which technically would still be early with regards to testing. However, that theory would run contrary to your CM patterns. So my 2nd theory is that perhaps you are just one of those statistical outliers who took longer to implant, hence your HCG levels are still too low to show up on a HPT, and that's why you are getting BFNs. Remember that all the statistics we read about and base our own experiences on are generally just averages - meaning there are people on both sides of the numbers. Have you spoken to your doctor? That could provide you with some peace of mind...

I've had alot of people ask me if I didn't O until CD26. But, the only reason the temps are lower then is because I temped about an hour and half earlier than usual. So, I would think that I did O on CD 21. Just my guess though.

I'm thinking that I'm going to go get some more tests today. Hopefully, I'll know what's going on by the end of the day. :rolleyes:

MrsJackson - That is wild. If you were preggers, I'd say it was colustrum (sp?), but even then, you'd have to be VERY preggers for that to happen. Hey, do you think you could have Od a few days later than your chart says?


Ahhh.....I don't know! :D I'm very, very confused right now. :p

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here...
Welcome to Charliezangel!
To add a link to your chart- Go sharing in the left hand side, then home page, then highlight the link in the top box (Your Charting Home Page Web Address)]

[MSH]

As a recent grad of this thread I just wanted to come by and drizzle some

~*~ baby dust ~*~

all over this thread. I wish you all luck and hope to see you in a mommies thread soon! :)

[MichelleRenee]

AF is here with a vengeance. I hope she's gone soon!

[gymwidow]

Hi all. Sorry I went MIA for a couple of days. Work exploded on Tuesday and since then I've been running to catch up. This is the first time I've been able to get to the computer for anything other than work!

Anyway, CD8 here and nothing going on. Tonight I take my last Clomid dose and we'll start BDing this weekend just in case I O on my own before my u/s next Thursday.

bunnybeth, we're cycle buddies this time. Let's hope we both get our BFPs this month, too!

CTs Punkin, I am so sorry. Waiting is the absolute worst part of this. I hope the month flies by for you and that next month all is clear so you can get started on the Challenge and get closer to your BFP!

magrat, maybe if you take out that really low temp it will remove your O?

polkdadot, that's too funny, I love it!

Hula, ooooooh, go get that camera to work so we can see! I'm so excited for you!

Welcome to all newbies!

Many hugs to those who just got a visit from AF.

Good luck vibes to everyone waiting to test!!!

Have a great weekend ladies. I'll try to be around more next week!

[Lily]

Hi Everyone,

I'm so excited to finally be able to join this thread! My DH and I have decided that the time is right to start a family. :D My stats are below.

CC Name: Lily
Me: Erica/26
DH: Daryl/33
Married since: 9/13/03
Off BCP since: 9/03
TTC since: 1/06
Charting since: 9/03
Known issues/test results: None
Chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/447e7
Current status: AF should be here by Monday

[gmb4503]

Updating stats:
Me: age 27
taking 100 mg of Clomid, HSG 11/05 - normal


This thread moves so fast :eek: It's so hard for me to keep up!!! Be back soon to read all the pages I missed!

[ABirney]

Hey everyone!
Welcome charliezangel and lily!
hula hopefully you aren't seeing things!
Sorry the witch showed Deanna, Mayham, and MichelleRenee.
ellidew your temps still look good! Hopefully you get a BFP soon.
ausi2b hopefully you won't need that dr appt in April.
MrsJacksonstrange about the leakage! Your temps still look great.
gymwidow good luck at the u/s Thurs
Hope everyone O'ing soon catches some eggies and good luck to those testing soon.

[giry76]

I spy a MBFP! Congrats!

[Bellefior]

Haven't had time to look for the MBFP yet but congrats whoever you are!

My temp took a huge nosedive this morning so I am expecting AF to arrive shortly. Which is kind of a relief actually. Yesterday I had a mammogram and was told that if I even thought I was pregnant, I should reschedule. Well I knew based on timing it was a snowballs chance in hell so I told them to go ahead and do it.

Our BD'ing this month is totally whacko due to the fact we've had a collapsed ceiling in our living room, been dealing with insurance adjusters, and have had contractors in for the last week to do repair work so my condo is currently in shambles! This is combined with the fact that DH is under some major stress right now with studying for next months bar exam. We are going to Florida for a month after he takes the exam so both he and I can recover, so I am hoping that I'll not only come back with a tan, but a BFP! Once the stress of this exam is out of the way, we can seriously settle down to TTC.

(Oh and because the X-ray technician made me so paranoid yesterday, I took a pregnancy test this morning. I shouldn't have bothered to waste one, because it came up negative, as I suspected!)

[magrat]

Well, I don't think I've O'd yet, but unless it holds off another 5 days or so, I'd say I'm probably out for this cycle - DH left early this morning for DC on a business trip, and the last couple days we were too exhausted to BD. I haven't had any fertile quality CM either - dry as a bone so far. It's not over until AF sings, but I'm not counting on it. With him gone my sleep probably won't be as good, and I'll be getting out the electric blanket, so I don't even know that I'll be able to tell if I O this month! Bad timing all round. Anyway, can't be too upset because I just found out I got a new job! It's with the same company I'm at now, but doing something completely different. I absolutely despised my job so this is a huge relief. It also means I get to keep my good health benefits, a raise, etc, so I feel more comfortable than ever with our decision to TTC now! (It was a bit scary when I was still looking for a new job, ready to quit my current job because I was so unhappy, not sure what kind of benefits I'd get at a new place, no FMLA if I wasn't there long enough, etc).

[Sare79]

I see the MBFP too! Congrats! :D

[Hula1974]

B F P ! ! ! !

Sorry, got excited! DH says I need to take another test tom'w to be certain (who knows why). But today I took the Dollar Store one again and the line was a bit darker. So I also dipped a CB Digital and it came right up PREGNANT!

I guess I should call the Dr?....

holymoley

[TazLuv]

Congrats, Hula!

[MSH]

Congrats Hula!!! H&H 9 months to you!

[kmmommy]

Congrats Hula! H&H 9 months!

[lawgirl4]

congrats Hula!!!! how exciting!!! :)

[charliezangel]

Thanks so much for the welcome girls. I'm excited to join you all. DH and I have decide to Hold off on the serious TTC until we move in May because we will be more stable, but we are still in the mindset of "if it happens, we will be excited". I hope you all don't mind if i stick around. I have a feeling waiting is NOT going to happen...lol.

Here is my chart...My VERY FIRST chart!!!!!

Chart http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/c97d2

Also. CONGRATS HULA!!!

So excited to see someone graduate my first week onboard. It definetly gives me hope!!!

[Alioop12345]

Finally found the new thread and have also figured out how to post the lin to my chartso here goes....

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1d0d2

I really don't think FF has my O date right. I am on Estradial and that hould prevent me O'ing on my own. I got my HcG shot yesterday so I sohuld be O'ing today or tomorrow.

Hope all are well and that I didn't miss anything

[polkadot]

congrats hula!!!! h&h 9 months to you!!!!

[ABirney]

Hey ladies.
Congrats Hula!!! H&H 9 months to you!
magrat congrats on the new job! Hopefully your eggie will stay put until your DH gets back home.
bellefior sorry to hear about AF on her way. Hopefully next cycle is better and you bring back a souvineer from your vacation!
Alioop hope you catch your egg!

Same old stuff here. DH just told me a bit ago (as I was checking my CM.. :o ) that he thinks I'm worrying too much about TTC and thinks we should take a charting break for a couple months and just see what happens. He said he thinks the stress of worrying about it is what's preventing it from happening. But I don't want to quit charting, I figure I'll worry if I'm not charting and not knowing what's going on with my body. grrr! I told him I'd keep charting for a couple more months until my yearly exam in March/April and then we'd go from there.

[ausi2b]

Congrats HULA!! :)

[Kimmer]

Congrats HULA!!
Happy Nine Months to you!!


I am a little slow was this the MBFP? :):confused:

[suzfuzsunflower]

Congratulations Hula. I remember you from the other site. I'm happy for you! :D

[giry76]

MBFP = Mystery Big Fat Posative

Basically I was chart stalking and saw Hulas BFP on Fertility Friend but she hadn't announced it on here yet.


As for me... I think I O'd Thursday but I need another high temp before I call it, but if so our BD timing was pretty good ;)

[JayJay]

Well, I'm pretty sure I'm out. I took another test today, and of course it was negative. I haven't had a huge temp drop, but I guess I did have a little one.
The cramping is not here yet, and I'm still getting that discharge from my nipples. How strange.


I guess I'm not suprised, being as my LP was around 17 days. :rolleyes:

QOTD: On average, how long is your LP?

[Deanna1018]

Mrs. Jackson...I have had a 11 day lp, a 12 day lp and my last one was only 10 days long. I am hoping it is not a trend.

Hula...Congratulations!!!!!!

ABirney..Even though we have just started TTC my husband is saying the same thing. But I am like you in that I would be too worried if I wasn't charting.

Just waiting for AF to go away. I have started to seriously workout again. it will not only improve my health but my stress level as well. Oh and I forgot to mention we are planning a trip to Curacao Mid-March so I need to get into bathing suit shape. Have a great weekend ladies!!!!

[lawgirl4]

I am feeling *so* down today. temp is still climbing, but I started to spot a little in the afternoon. and I am only at 5 dpo! I've suspected that I have a progesterone issue, and I know that a shortened LP is connected to late ovulation (which I apparently have now, since my O-dates have consistently been CD 21 or later)... so I am just so depressed. I am so sure that we are out for this cycle, and now I just have to sit tight until my dr appt on feb 9th. I don't want to have to go through this for several more cycles - it seems pretty clear to me that I should have some testing done based on my past charts. sigh. I was really hoping that I was going to luck out and TTC wouldn't be too difficult. looks like that won't be my reality. :(

[ptcrn]

Congrats, Hula! H&H 9 months!

Welcome charliezangel!

MrsJackson, sorry about the BFN. I thought for sure you would have a BFP by now. Your chart still looks good! Its not over till its over. :)

QOTD- My LP is usually around 14 days. It took a few cycles after BCP to regulate, but now it is pretty consistent.

I've gotten positive OPKs for the last 2 days, so the BD fest is on! I'm trying not to get my hopes up this month, but who am I kidding? ;)

[polkadot]

QOTD: well...usually its 12-13 but one cycle, (not counting last cycle b/c of the m/c) it was 14...so it jsut makes me feel like i have to wait longer to test...this month...i am not testing until 18 DPO...I swear on my life...b/c i cannnot take a BFN...and i certainly do not want a repeat of last month...it would jsut make me crazy for sure...

Mrs. Jackson- ihad a cycle like that a few months ago...i thought for sure it was it but NOPE...just think positivley and you will be ok...listen to me? :rolleyes: I should listen to myself...but seriously....it will happen jsut give it some time...:)

ptcrn-I've gotten positive OPKs for the last 2 days, so the BD fest is on! I'm trying not to get my hopes up this month, but who am I kidding? Girlie...dont be so hard on yourself...i seriuosly taked to the sperm and the ovaries everytime we BDed last month...i think sometimes they need a little pep talk...;)

lawgirl- so sorry you have to deal with this...but at least you have a dr appt...my dr wont even see me again unless I get a BFP or have been trying for over a year...and i had a m/c last month...some drs are sticklers for the rules...glad yours is willing to look around just in case....try and stay positive....hope you feel better soon...:)

Deanna- I have started to seriously workout again. it will not only improve my health but my stress level as well. I so want to be you right now...i wish i could get motiviated to start workign out...i think i am going ot go back to the gym this week and see what happens I dont want to push myself too hard...but i am not liking the way the jeans are fitting these days....maybe we can motivate each other?:p

ok...i think i got everybody...if not sorry...:p

[Mystikal]

Wanted to drop off some ~*~*~*BABY DUST*~*~*~
and say CONGRATULATIONS to hula!!!!! So happy for you, girl!!! :D

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here...

Congratulations to Hula1974!!!
Happy and Healthy 9 months to you!

[Baby Lust]

Lawgirl, Spotting at 5DPO could be implantation spotting. I would highly doubt that this spotting is the beginnings of AF. Keep your chin up and just let your body tell you what is going on. :)

Mrs Jackson, A 17 day LP is actually really good! I know it makes waiting that much harder, but that gives baby plenty of time to implant! My LP was always 10 days and I was able to get pg so apparently it is possible even with a short LP! Good luck!

[polkadot]

well said Amanda....ITA!!!

[Ilovemygeek]

Congratulations Hula1974!

[ausi2b]

MrsJackson - my LP is usually 12 or 13 days. Still have my fingers crossed for you!!

Tested this morning (10 DPO) and BFN. I know, I know ... its too early, but GAH! seeing one stinks!

[Hula1974]

cowgirl, ellidew, lilla, mayham, bunnybeth, jenzen01, lawgirl4, gymwidow, abirney, tazluv, msh, kaden's mommy, charliezangel, polkadot, ausi2b, kimmer, suzfuzsunflower, giry76, deanna1018, ptcrn, mystikal, ilovemygeek - (and anyone else I might have missed) Thank you Thank you Thank you for all the shout-outs.

What thread to you all recommend. Looks like me LMP due date would be 9/29. Sept or Oct?

[Alioop12345]

Threadmistress...could you move me to in the 2WW?

Thanks

[giry76]

Threadmistress

Can you move me to "I think I O'd testing 1/31/06"

2WW for me again! Normally I have midcycle spotting but none this cycle so I am happy for that!

[Bellefior]

Threadmistress, you can move me back to waiting to O, AF showed this morning as I suspected.

I'm pretty certain FF called my O day wrong last month and it was actually CD 15 and not CD 19. I think I am now seeing a correlation between temps and when I O because I get pains in my lower abdomen which I thought originally thought might be gas or kidney pains and am now thinking are O pains. We'll see nxt month if I am right about this.

[Alioop12345]

Sorry about AF Bellefior I get O pains to that feel like gas or kidney pains.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here

[Baby Lust]

Hula, Either thread will gladly take you, but I would suggest September because the chances of you delivering before your EDD is pretty good :) And even if your due date gets changed, the ladies in the September thread would be happy to keep you! :)

[Kimmer]

Agghhh cramping and spotting this a.m. I am not sure if I am out of if this imp. spotting. :( I have scoured TCOYF for answers and come up with nothing. If it is AF I have NEVER had her come this early, I can set my watch by it and this had been for years. :mad: I am so confused. I think it is too early to waste my precious dollar store test(I got the last two) on a possible BFN but I need to know what is going on with this cycle:confused:

[magrat]

Hula I say the Oct thread - everyone will be lot more interested in your baby being born because you'll be one of the first, rather than at the end when everyone is busy with their own babies! Plus, I thought first timers were more likely to be late? Anyone know the statistics?

[Baby Lust]

Kimmer, I would say it is probably "implantation spotting", which could or could not mean you are pg. I had it at 11DPO. Good luck!

Magrat, You have a good point! I guess I don't know the statistics... :o

[JayJay]

Well, CD 1 for me. She finally showed. :mad: I was expecting her too, so I wasn't really all that disappointed. I actually prepared myself after the BFN at 13 DPO. I guess that's just my way of doing things.

Threadmistress, could you please move me back up to waiting to O? Thanks!


The cramping is always the worst part for me. It's so bad today, that it's making me sick to my stomach. Yucky!

Thanks to everyone who answered my question about the LP's. I didn't exactly know if I was average or not because when I look at the chart gallery on FF, there's really not too many charts that have that long of an LP.

To all of you that are testing soon, good luck! And sorry to those of us that got a visit from the old hag. I'm hating her more and more every month. Which is funny, because I used to love it when she visited! :rolleyes:

[ausi2b]

I'm sorry MrsJackson that the witch showed. That was a beautiful chart! I hope the cramps subside soon and that this month is the month for you!!

[Sare79]

Jess- Sorry to hear that. I hope that this is our turn this time around- we'll have October babies! :)

Did anyone else watch Scrubs on Tuesday? Carla and Turk are TTC and I almost peed my pants laughing so hard at how they portayed the unsexiness of baby-making sex vs. regular fun sex. When Turk wanted to talk to someone about how he was stressed and turned off by it all, he turned to Elliott, who has funny words for everything (Vagina is hoo hoo, and Cervical mucous is icky sticky).

I really like to see tv shows or read books about things that relate to my current life goings-on- Does anyone know of any good movies or books (fiction) that are about TTC?

[ausi2b]

Sare79 - how funny! I just watched that episode this afternoon on television. DH and I were HYSTERICALLY laughing over that part. I think CM will officially now be called "icky sticky" in my household. :) I haven't found that most television shows or movies portray TTC correctly at all, and usually it just makes me mad. Was it Sex and the City when Charlotte actually wore a WATCH to tell her when she's ovulating? Come on - I WISH it were that easy!!

[ABirney]

Hey ladies!
sorry AF showed MrsJackson and Bellefior!
Hope you guys figure out your spotting issues lawgirl and kimmer.
giry and ptcrn hope your eggies got caught!

I actually forgot to temp this morning. I have 2 alarm clocks, had 1 set at 6 to temp and then the other one set for later for when it was time to get up for church. I remember turning off the 6am one when it went off, then promptly went back to sleep. Ooops. Oh well.
Anyway have a great day everyone!

[Deanna1018]

MrsJackson and Bellifiore...sorry your AF showed. Check your Pm's MrsJackson.

ABirney...I forgot to temp this morning as well. I actually dreamed that I temped at 4:30 am (regular time). I even remember the temp I thought I had
(96.8) but when I woke up at 7 am I checked my stored temp and it was the temp from yesterday. I am thinking about TTC way too much if I am dreaming about temping. I ended up temping at 7 am but tcoyf discarded the temp..oh well.

Ausi2B and Sare79...I don't watch Scrubs but that episode sounds hysterical. I hope they show it again.

Ausi2B..I remember that episode with Charlotte. I was looking through a magazine the other day and they had a watch in there that you could enter all your fertile data and it would tell your most fertile days. Kind of like a "chart watch". I couldn't believe it..I actually had my DH look at it to make sure it was what i thought it was. Of course it didn't tell you when you ovulated though. I am not that obsessed that I would need a watch to look at all day long...ok at least I am not that obsessed right now...maybe in a few months I will be if we still aren't pregnant...LOL :D

Not too much going on here as far as TTC goes except for forgetting to temp until it was too late this morning.

On Friday I went to see my 93 year old grandmother that has terminal cancer and while she has lost a lot of weight and was very tired her mind was still as sharp as ever (she lived alone up until mid-october last year). We had a great conversation. Anyway my dad called me this afternoon and said he got a phone call at 4:30 am this morning from the nursing home that grandma was failing. Well he stayed with her till 12 noon and while she is very confused, she seemed to have stabilized (still confused but not any worse)by then . I guess things progressed quickly from friday to today. Anyway my dad wants me to be prepared for the possibility that she doesn't have much longer. I just don't want her to be in any pain. I have been very lucky to have a grandparent in my life for so long. I will make plans to go see her again (sooner rather then later). She is in a town that is about one hour away. Needless to say I am little stressed right now.

Well time to go try to relax as best as I can. Thanks for listening.

[ausi2b]

Deanna- I'm so sorry to hear about your grandmother. I'll keep her in my thoughts. HUGS!

[ABirney]

Deanna sorry to hear about your grandma.

[magrat]

Deanna I'm so sorry about your grandma. No matter how old they are or how much they've been suffering, it's still just as painful to lose them, so don't feel guilty for wanting her to stick around longer.

[polkadot]

MrsJackson and Bellefior- Sorry AF is here....hope she goes away soon....

lawgirl and kimmer- hope you both find out what is going on...with the spotting...

giry and ptcrn- Hope you catch or caught your eggies...

Deanna- sorry about yoru grandmother- you and she both are in my prayers

everyone else that i missed sorry...but best of luck in whatever you need;)

[jbemommy]

Deanna sorry about your grandmother. I just lost my grandpa a month ago, and even though we were expecting it, it was still hard.
MrsJackson sorry about AF.

I'm really starting to hate the 2ww! I have till Friday before I'm going to test, and I keep going back and forth between feeling sure AF is going to show any day and thinking maybe this is our month. It's just so hard not knowing. 12DPO and counting. The funny thing is that when we started TTC'ing I wasn't sure I was ready for another baby yet.

[mayham]

Deanna I'm so sorry about your grandmother. She's lucky to have a loving family close by.

[TazLuv]

WTF!!!! Ok ladies, I have NO idea what is going on. So I've been having a lot of CM this weekend so I took an OPK this afternoon and it was POSITIVE. I'm on day three of my Provera which I'm taking for five days to force a period. I've done TONS of internet research and I can't find anything that says Provera would make me ovulate. If I change the spotting on days 56 & 57 to light menses this would be CD13 so I guess its possible, I have no idea. As you can see by my chart we haven't been BD'ing b/c we had given up on this cycle, we will tonight just in case but its REALLY frustrating not knowing what's going on. :confused: :confused:

[ptcrn]

Deanna, I'm sorry about your grandmother. I've lost one set of grandparents and it doesn't get any easier even if you expect it. I will keep you in my thoughts.

jbemommy- isn't the 2ww the worst? I'm just entering it and it already stresses me out! Good luck to you testing- I hope you get your BFP!

Sare79- I watched that episode of Scrubs too- it was hilarious! I laughed so hard! I just finished reading the Conception Chronicles. It was very funny and I loved reading about what we are going through right now. I got it at my local library- you should read it!

So, I think I probably O'd yesterday because I had a pretty big temp jump today. I'll wait to call it until I get 3 high temps, since I think that's when FF will call it. Anyway, we didn't get to BD yesterday due to a bunch of circumstances, so I hope that Friday is good enough!

[Baby Lust]

Taz, Is it possible that the Provera can give you a false +? Not necessarily make you O...

[Deanna1018]

Thanks to each and everyone of you for your kind words. I haven't heard anything new about my grandmother since yesterday afternoon. My gut instinct is telling me that something will happen in the next day or two.

Not much going on here just waiting for AF to be over. I do have one question though. Does "spotting" after AF have to be red to be considered spotting or is spotting also brownish red? I know TMI for the morning but I had to ask.

Be back much later, 10 hour day at work today...ugh!

[Alioop12345]

I am so sorry Deanna about your Gma...My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family

[Delaney21]

Threadmistress: Please move me to Think I O'ed- Testing 1/30-2/05:

Sorry, no time for S/Os or updates. I've been working 70 hours a week this month and I feel dead. I'm pretty sure the stress of this month is not going to help with TTC. I'll be back once this madness is over.

[TazLuv]

Baby Lust, not that I could find online. I'll have to ask a professional I guess. Thanks!

[cowgirl]

Welcome charliezangel & Lily!
Hula I say October.
Deanna sorry about your grandmother
MrsJackson and Bellefior Sorry the witch showed.
Lawgirl & Kimmer You get some answers to what is happening.
Tazluv That is strange.
Good luck to all hoping they caught the egg.

I am hoping I o'd but discarded my temp for saturday because it was colder in my room. My temp was up Friday and today. And I have had less CM then I had last week. Keeping fingers crossed.

[ausi2b]

11 DPO and another BFN :( I just wish I would get AF or a BFP already so I can just move on, you know? Good luck to everyone else testing this week!

[lawgirl4]

deanna - my thoughts are with you and your family. my grandfather died this time many years ago, so I can empathize. *hugs*

delaney - hope that your life calms down soon! 70 hr workweeks - ugh!

cowgirl - hope you O'd too! :)

ausi2b - the waiting - no matter where you are in your cycle - is definitely the hardest part of all of this - drives me crazy too!

******************************

well, girls, I am still feeling super-depressed. Today is 7 dpo and I am still "spotting." It had been sort of a pinkish brown, but today when I wiped it was definitely pinker. I took a look at my past cycles and was surprised to see that this has been my pattern since the summer - to start spotting around 5-7 dpo, for about 4-6 days, then AF. Interesting thing is that my temp tends to climb even during the spotting.

I am really hoping that even though we have only been TTC this one cycle, my doctor will look at my past charts and be okay with some testing starting next cycle. I am just *so* down about this. I really didn't think that getting PG was going to be an issue for us, and now it looks like it will be. sigh. :(

I know that there are a lot of good things about my charts - I have a clear thermal shift, my cycles are fairly consistent/predictable - but it still sucks. :( I'm still trying to have a positive outlook, though it's so hard - hope everyone has a good day. :)

[charliezangel]

OK, question. If anyone has a chance to look at my chart...day 1 was a "high" temp in comparrison to the last week. Then day2 dropped, then popped up again on day3. Since then, it's been a steady decline. I should probably look through TCOYF, but i though i'd drop by here first. Is this normal right after AF?? And do i know that i will O because i get a dip??? Does another high temp mean that I am Oing, or that it already happend?? TIA.

[Jenzen01]

Morning, ladies.

Wow, this thread moves so fast.

First, congrats to HULA!

I got a positive OPK yesterday, so I'm just waiting for a temp jump. For what it's worth, I'm not too keen on the ClearBlue Easy kits. Much prefer First Response.

I just want my temp to jump because, frankly, I'm getting tired of the BD fest. :)

Jen

[armadillo]

Congrats, Hula!!!

Sorry to hear about your grandmother, Deanna. *hugs*

I'm on CD 22 and still no O! Argh!!! I started exercising this month, so I wonder if that's upsetting my system? I did have some EWCM this morning, so hopefully soon...

[Lilla]

Happy Monday, ladies.

deanna I'm so sorry to hear about your grandmother. You'll be in my thoughts.

ausi2b Ugh, sorry you got another BFN, but don't give up! This is the freaking *worst* part of this TTC thing...the waiting and not knowing. Drives me crazy if I let it.

lawgirl I'm sorry that you are down today. Even if this spotting has occurred in the past before AF, try and keep your chin up. I'm crossing my fingers that your temp will stay nice and high.

charliezangel I'm no expert on TCOYF, but from what I understand, you can still have a high temp at the beginning of AF and have it drop off as the progesterone leaves your system. So, IMHO I think it's normal. As far as a dip when you O, that doesn't always happen. Some women have it and others don't. Don't rely on your temp to tell you when you are about to O, use your CM more instead. Once your temp spikes, that means you have already O'ed. HTH!!


Not a lot to report on my end. I'm saying it's 9DPO today no matter what FF says it is. Not feeling much as far as symptoms go, but it may still be early for that. If my temps stay up, I plan to test Friday. It's gonna be a looooooong week!

[gmb4503]

Threadmistress, please move me to "Think I o'd" Testing around Feb 8

DH hurt his back so we weren't able to BD the last few days. I hope what we did before O was enough!!

[bunnybeth]

lawgirl The joke gift was great. The entire room got a huge kick out of it (especially his brothers) and the father-to-be turned almost as pink as the bag! LOL ;)

gymwidow Ok, cycle buddy, let's cross our fingers for BFP's!

Welcome Lily! Hope your stay is short, good luck. :)

Bellefior Sorry to hear about all that stress in your life, that would really put a kink into TTC. But, lots of luck for a relaxing and BFP-inducing FL trip.

magrat Too bad on the timing for this cycle, but congrats on the new job, that's great news. Nice to reaffirm your decision to be TTC.

Congrats Hula! What is it with DH's though? Mine needed a second test to believe anything as well. :p

Kimmer That could be implantation spotting. And, if it is, it would be pointless to use a HPT now, you have to give it a few days for the levels to build after implantation. Good luck!

Deanna Sorry to hear your grandmother is not doing well. It is a stressful time, I just lost mine a few months ago. Hope you're doing ok. {{hugs}}

Sorry to everyone who had AF show. :mad:

Lot of luck to those waiting to test! :D

Still waiting for some EWCM to begin the BD fest. Really hoping it will be soon, as that would be consistent with most of my previous cycles.

[polkadot]

ok...i keep turning my alarm off in the morning...and i just jump out of bed as to not be late and dont temp....i know that i am not Oing any time soon, no EW or anything...but i need to get up in the morning...i cant figure out what it is...i am soooo tired....i will try again tomorrow...

[ptcrn]

I spy a mystery BFP! Congrats!!!

[polkadot]

i cant find it...i looked everywhere i cant believe i missed it...out yourself please...:p

[gymwidow]

Hi all. I hope everyone had a good weekend. We started BDing on Saturday and BD'd again yesterday and will tonight before DH leaves for a 3-day trip. I hope I either O nice and early today (CD11) or can wait till after my next RE appt on Thursday. I have my next u/s on Thursday and if all goes as planned, we'll do the IUI on Friday. I'm nervous about it, but hopeful that it will increase our chances this month.

Lily & charliezangel, welcome! May your stay here be short and sweet.

magrat, congrats on the new job, that's awesome!

hula, YAY! Congrats, that's so wonderful! A H&H 9 months to you. :D

ABirney, NOT charting is harder for me than charting. I need to know what's going on, just wondering all the time doesn't cut it!

lawgirl, hugs... I hope you're doc will at least run some tests since you have that history of spotting.

Bellefior, I'm so sorry that AF showed up. Witch. :mad:

Deanna, I hope your grandmother is doing better. Hugs...

TazLuv, my RE said that drugs like Provera and Clomid can cause false positive OPKs because of the extra hormones that they introduce into our bodies. He recommended I not use them for that reason.

bunnybeth, fingers crossed! Our BD fest began this weekend. You?

Hi to everyone else I might've missed!

I'm off to find the MBFP.....

[Bellefior]

I can't find the MBFP so someone please clue me in by PM'ing me!

Deanna I am praying for you, your grandma, and your family.

[Charting is Knowledge]

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[ausi2b]

ACK! I want to know who the mystery BFP is! Congratulations!

[Sare79]

I see it! :p

[katmg]

Yikes! I forgot that the link to my chart was still in here! I have been hanging out in SAI lately...DH and I were moving on to fertility drugs, etc. We'd been waiting on AF to show up so we could start them on my next cycle. Well...I'm not going to have a next cycle because I got this on Saturday morning:

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6df00b3127cce96abf575fcff00000016108AatWbJw3btN

And a digital one came up 'Pregnant' on Sunday morning!! :D I think my due date is around September 27, 2006!

Thanks to everyone in this thread who has helped me learn so much about charting! It has been a true lifesaver. For anyone who goes and checks out my chart though, you'll see that I wasn't charting this month - I figured it didn't matter this month since we were moving on to drugs the next cycle. ;)

[armadillo]

Congrats, Katmg!!! H&H 9 months!!

[ausi2b]

Congrats Katmg!!

[Sare79]

Congratulations katmg!!!
We'll still count you as one of us!

[TazLuv]

Congrats katmg!

Threadmistress: please move me to "taking a break" I've decided the charting is stressing me out too much and that since we're starting the Clomid soon i'm going to take a break.

Good luck to all you ladies, and hopefully I'll catch up with you in one of the mom to be threads! :)

[jessied1025]

This thread sure does move fast and with my work being crazy there is not much time for posts.

Congrats to Hula & Katmg! H&H 9 months to you.

Deanna I am sorry to hear that your grandmother is not doing so well. You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.

Sorry to anyone in which AF showed up. Good luck to everyone testing.

CD5 for me, just waiting to get the show on the road!
Threadmisstress: could you please move me to "waiting to O". Thanks!

[ellidew]

H&H katmg! Congrats!

Well, af arrived yesterday. I was soooo sad :( We're looking forward to o'ing this month since we will be on a cruise in Mexico. I don't know how accurate my temping will be so i ordered some opk's online this morning as well as preseed. Any other advice on how to make this our month?

[Charting is Knowledge]

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Congratulations to katmg! Happy and Healthy 9 months to you!

[Kimmer]

Congrats katmg!

Threadmistress: please move me to "waitng to O" AF is in my guest room for a few days

[jeant]

Deanna You asked about the color of spotting. Spotting is often dark red, brown, or even black, so that's pretty normal.

lawgirl I know *exactly* what you are talking about. I have the same exact problem -- LP spotting in several cycles. I will be super-interested to hear what your doc has to say. I have a doc appt myself to discuss this, but not until the end of Feb. Back in November when I first experienced this I saw a GYN nurse. She completely, totally blew me off and did not give me any answers -- just dumb platitudes and the old "just relax" speech. I have also had very little luck finding any info about this online.

The one thing I found was a graduate of this thread, Mrs.Can'tDecide, who had these symptoms but is now 6-7 mos pg! So that helped some. I am having the same feelings as you, frustrated with the symptoms and very, very sad that it might stand in the way of getting pg. It really sucks.

I guess the good news is that if it is low progesterone, that is easily treated with progesterone supps. I already tried progesterone cream, which had no effect, but I think that's different than the prescribed supps, which I think are vaginal suppositories. (Now *that* sounds like fun. NOT).

[tunibell]

Just a TTC w/ Charting grad stopping by to wish everyone luck...and to chart stalk lawgirl4.

:D

[Baby Lust]

Congratulations Katmg!!! It's been a while and I am so happy for you! Beautiful!

Ellidew, You may want to invest in some Instead cups this month! I haven't tried them as the sight of them was too freightening :o but I have heard wonderful things about them keeping the boys in! :D Good luck and enjoy your trip!

[polkadot]

congrats katmg-h&h 9 months to you...

i have preseed and instead cups on the way!!!
I hope they work for us ellidew!!!

i'll ask a question here too. I just bought some mucinex today and we are starting the SME plan on Day 14 is that the day ya'll think i should start taking it? I guess it couldnt hurt anything to start now right? Can you see how exctited I am to start this month?;)

[Lily]

Hi Ladies,

I know that I just joined this thread, but I guess all of the lurking I did previously really paid off! My temp should have dropped this morning since AF was expected tomorrow, but instead it rose higher than yesterday so I decided to test this afternoon. It was indeed POSITIVE!!! :D I'm still in shock and will be telling DH tomorrow evening. My EDD is October 4, 2006. I'm wondering though, does this seem right? My cycles are normally 27 days, and I O'd on CD 13. Babycenter calculates me at being only 3 weeks is that right? TIA.

I also wanted to say congrats to HULA and Katmg!

[polkadot]

Lily- Congrats!! H&H 9 months to you!!!

I hope this is the start of a very **positive** end of the month!!! We need some more BFP's!!!

Hey! Thats closes out this thread already doesnt it? Or did i miss count...

later girls:D

[Hula1974]

Jenzen01, Armadillo, Gymwidow, jessied1025 - Thank you :D

Bunnybeth - 2 test?! No, I've taken 5 to date. I don't know why he's acting this way....he really was hoping this was our month. Maybe he just wants to be really really really really really sure (5 really's for 5 tests!)

Katmg - Congrats and a H&H 9 months.

Lily - Congrats to you too!! And thanks for the well wishes.

Are you two going to Oct. mommies???

[ptcrn]

Congrats Katmg and Lily!! H&H 9 months to you both! Lily, I thought your chart was looking awfully good when I was chart stalking earlier today! Guess there was a good reason. :D

I think that's 3 BFP's too, polkadot. Rolling in all the baby dust around here!

[Lily]

Thank you Hula, Polkadot and ptcrn!

Hula - My EDD is for 10/04 so I'll join the October '06 Mommies when a new thread is started. I think that if you have a due date buddy in the September thread you might want to go over there, but if there aren't any late September mommies then it would be great to have you in the October Mommies thread. :D

[polkadot]

hey lily...how did you get a animated advatar...i tried to resize mine and the program i had wouldnt let me and the original was too tiny,,,any advice on how i can do it myself?

thanks

sorry for the hijak:)

[Sare79]

You guys are right- it has been 3!

Just wondering what everyone else thinks- but how do you feel if we increase the BFPs to 5 or 6 before we do a new thread? I know that this thread moves really quickly, but the last few volumes have only lasted a few days.

[Charting is Knowledge]

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[charliezangel]

Katmg & Lily Congrats ladies. I'l so excited for you girls. I can't wait to post mine...hopefully this cycle.


I wasn't paying attention, but whoever gave me the info about my chart, thanks. I feel better knowing it's pretty normal. I'm gonna keep an eye on my CM. But it seems that i have the EWCM pretty oftem. Somtimes midcycle, sometimes at the beginning. Every once in a while I have it the entire cycle. Either i'm super fertile!!!! or i'm just not reading it right. I hope it's the later!!!

[MichelleRenee]

Sare, I was just about to attempt my first new thread when I saw your post. I guess it would be up to everyone to decide. I'll check back tomorrow and see what everyone thinks. (BFP's have been flying in like crazy lately!) Congrats Lily and Katmg!!!

[Sare79]

Go for it Michelle!!! Do the new thread and then the next one we will implement changes if people want.

[Ilovemygeek]

Congratulations Katmg!

[ausi2b]

Congrats Lily! H&H9M to you!

12 DPO and ANOTHER BFN :( Temp is still up, but seriously! I'm so disappointed.

[jodylovesscotty]

Congrats Katmg and Lily:) Hoping you have a healthy and happy 9 months.

I am currently 7dpo. We did get somewhat good new yesterday on DH's SA. When I talked to the nurse the other day she said it was "slightly abnormal". She wouldn't give me any other details because I am not the patient. Well DH finally decided to call yesterday. The only thing wrong is that the heads of the sperm a little round instead of oval shaped. The number and mobility were fine! He said if you want anything wrong the shape of the head would be it because it won't really affect getting pregnant. So now we just wait to see what this cycle brings.

[giry76]

Check out my chart girls. I have NEVER had a second temp spike like that. Here's to hoping it is for a good reason.

[lawgirl4]

ugh. my chart is looking *so* perfect - except for the spotting. my temp keeps rising so nicely, though... today is 8 dpo. I would love some feedback from you guys!!

[Lilla]

Wow! Congrats Katmg & Lily!!! H&H 9 months to both of you!

ausi2b I know I sound like a broken record, but your chart still looks really good! Don't give up yet! Fingers crossed!

giry76 Nice temp spike! Keeping my fingers crossed that there is a reason for it too! :)

lawgirl4 I don't know, I'm sticking with my optimism here. Your temp is rising nicely despite the slight spotting. Is it still there? Still pink? Has it lessened at all? I really hope this is it for you!


10DPO here and a bit of a temp drop this morning. I'm not going to let myself get to upset bout that until I see what tomorrow's temp brings. My chart is so wacked out this cycle that I can't let one little temp shift get to me. DH and I made a Target run lastnight and I bought a 3 pack of tests. I promised myself that I wouldn't use any before Friday if there is no AF. But I know they are sitting there under the sink calling to me.......! Still no symptoms though. Ugh.

[charliezangel]

This may be a silly question, but after talking about my CM and bedily functions with you girls, i think i can handle it, LOL. i have had 3 women tell me that having sex "doggy" style is the best way to get pregnant. Is this true?? According to my friend, this allows the sperm to travel more quickly to the egg rather then drip out as it would "missionary" style. After what I have learned from TCOYF, it's not really the speed of the perm, but the CM being the right consistancy to capture and retain the sprem and allow it to travel. Am I right baout this? TIA

[polkadot]

ok lets see...

charliezangel- i have heard that is the way to do it if you want a boy...but i have heard people say that is does help the spermies swim easier b/c there is a shorter distance....but its what we do best...so we stick with it!! ;)


Lila- i hope you have to willpower not to test until AF is late...the worse thing fo rme is having to see a BFN...i hate that part...just keep repeating..**Do not test** Do not test** i hope you get what you're wishing for...:D

lawgirl & giry- i think you are both on your way to triphasic charts if ya ask me and that can be a very good thing...

giry- i never had a dip in the 2WW like i did last month and guess what i got my BFP...

i hope this is it for all of you...fingers crossed for everyone!!:D

ETA: Threadmistresses: Start the new thread whenever ya'll get time . It doesnt matter how many BFP's we get it up to ya'll totally...ya'llhave to have the time to start the new thread...

[gymwidow]

Hi ladies. CD12 and not much happening. DH left town this morning for a few days, so I'm just hoping I either O'd really early yesterday (had some brownish EWCM yesterday and my temp went up a little bit today, but not a lot and I hadn't been soundly sleeping for about an hour before I took it, so who knows), or won't O before I go to the doc on Thursday for my u/s and trigger shot. We're still planning for the IUI on Friday.

I don't mind if we wait a little longer to start a new thread. 5 BFPs sounds like a good # to me.

katmg, woohoo, congrats! H&H 9 months! :)

TazLuv, good luck to you!

Lily, wow, that really was a short and sweet stay here! Congrats! :)
jody, I'm glad you got good news about the SA!

lawgirl, keep thinking positive thoughts. The increased temps are good!

charliezangel, I don't think the position matters that much. Yes, missionary and doggy style get the sperm closer to the cervix, but I know several women who've conceived when they were on top.

[bunnybeth]

CD13 and not much in the way of CM yet, but it's still early in the day. And, I usually go from a tiny bit of sticky to all-out in like a day, so still don't know if the BD will begin tonight. Waiting, waiting, waiting...

This thread does move pretty fast, but it's really not all that long, even now. Waiting for 5 BFP's would be fine with me. Or changing it to be a length of time rather than a number of BFP's. Not sure if that would make more consistent thread length...

gymwidow Well, I'm a late O-er so it was some DTD this weekend, but the BD should begin soon. Let's go eggies!

Congrats katmg! And, it's so great to hear you were able to get the BFP before you needed to start drugs and everything. :) H&H 9 months!

ellidew and kimmer Sorry AF showed up. :(

Wow, Congrats Lily! You're an early graduate! Happy and healthy 9 months to you. :D

Hula Ok, now I feel better that DH didn't believe me after 1 test. (I was "maybe" pregnant at that point.) But at least your DH is convinced now... right?!?

ausi2b Sorry for the BFN. Still, I'll cross my fingers for you.

giry76 Very nice high temp. :)

lawgirl4 Some very nice, very high temps. Quite a bit of spotting, but I'd still say it's looking good.

Lilla A single temp could be totally random, even if you can't think of a reason why it'd be off. Good luck!!!

[Sare79]

Originally we were doing a new thread for every three BFPs or a new month, but we have been getting lots of BFPs so we have already had three this month! I think waiting for five is a good idea.

[JayJay]

I think waiting for five is a good idea, too. And I'm not even the one who has to cut and paste all the stuff into the new thread. :p

My temps seem a little boring compared to last month at this time. I was all over the place then, but my temps are pretty flat so far. We'll see how that pans out.

Congats on the BFP's, Lily and Katmag! Hoping there will be a bunch of us following in your footsteps very very soon!

[giry76]

Thanks for all the replies. I have a good feeling about this cycle, but it is still early.

[jeant]

I vote for making the rule 6 BFPs for a new thread. It's nice for us not to have to change our bookmarks, and I'm sure nice for our threadmistresses as well.

[jbemommy]

ausi2b That is exactly why I refuse to test anymore until I'm actually late--I hate getting BFN's.
lilla I'm waiting till Friday to test, too. I only have one in the house right now, so that makes it easier to wait!
I'm currently on 14DPO and CD28. My BB's are sore and I'm having lots of cramping/twinges. Unfortunately that can be pre-AF symptoms, too, so I'm trying not to get too hopeful.

[ptcrn]

I vote for 5 BFPs or a new month to make a new thread too.

FF is now saying I O'd, and I agree, so threadmistress, could you move me to Think I O'd, testing 1/30 to 2/5? Thank you!

[MichelleRenee]

OK, so let's make the new number 5. Sare, when we hit 5 this month I think I'll attempt a new thread. It will probably be the evening we hit 5.

[cowgirl]

Lily and KatmagCongrats!!
ellidew and kimmer Sorry the witch showed.
ausi2bSorry for the BFN. I try to wait until I am late because I can not stand seeing them.
giry76 & lawgirl4Your temps look good.
JodyThat is some good news. I am sure you feel better knowing.
I think 5 is a good number.

If I add in Saturdays temp FF puts that as my O date. Can some look at my chart to see if this would be right?

[lawgirl4]

thanks to those of you who offered some input on my chart - too busy at work to do proper shout-outs! :)

so, today's update (8dpo) is that I had my highest temp yet and the spotting, while still happening, is definitely lighter today, and more brownish in color. weirdness! I am still thinking positively, though not expecting a BFP this cycle - and I'm actually okay with that. don't get me wrong, I would *love* nothing more than a BFP, but at the same time, if I have a BFN I am feeling okay about it since I am sure I'll get some answers/clarity at my dr's appt in february.

{but it would be *so* nice to have a BFP this month!! ;) }

[Baby Lust]

Cowgirl, Yup! Your chart looks right! Welcome to the 2WW! :)

[ABirney]

Hey ladies!
Congrats to katmg adn Lily!! H&H 9 months to both of you!
Yay to all those that O'd!
Gonna keep it kind of short tonight 'cuz this cold is kicking my butt. Yuck. Have a wonderful evening everyone!

[ABirney]

Good morning... quick question: I think this cold is wreaking havoc on my temps. They have been really low the past few days... 96.6 today (and I was tossing and turning since waking up at 1:30am.) I have been really careful to keep my mouth closed while temping (even though I can't breathe!) Any suggestions as to why they are doing this and what I can do to make them more accuarate? TIA!

[Jenzen01]

Hi ladies,

Congrats to Lily!

I was at home yesterday with a sick child, so I'm way behind on this thread.

I'm pretty sure I Od, but my temps still aren't that high.

So, threadmistress, could you move me to "testing Feb. 6-10."

[JayJay]

Good morning ladies. Remember yesterday when I said that my temps were really flat, and unexciting? Well, today it jumped up to 98.6 Which I realize that it doesn't really mean anything since AF was here, I just thought it to be funny that I just said how flat they were for me yesterday, and this morning it changed. Weird.

[ausi2b]

Ok girls. I had my pity party yesterday BIG TIME. Fully expected my temp to plummet today and AF to show. And ...

Temp stayed up and AF is nowhere to be found. I didn't test. I couldn't do it to myself again. What do you think? When should I test again?

[Lilla]

ausi2b If it were me, I'd see what tomorrow's temp does and if it's still high, then test! How long is your LP usually?


Still plugging along here. Temp up today vs yesterday, so I still have hope (but still not *feeling* it this month). We'll see.

Question: Anyone think my temp jump on CD23 might be implantation? That would be exactly one week from when I think I O'ed......


(Edited 'cause I can't type)

[ausi2b]

Thanks Lilla! My LP last month was 12, the month before was 13 (but I don't really count it b/c it was my first month off of BCP). Your plan sounds good. I can't access your chart at the moment, but usually implantations have dips in temperatures, not jumps. But that being said, you don't have to have an implantation dip to implant, and just because you did, doesn't meant that you did. Does that make sense? :)

[jjsanner]

Ausi, Are you pretty confident on the FF o date? You had a + OPK a day after your coverline along with several days of fertile CM. Mabey you didn't o until a few days later? Your temps look like a clear thermal shift, though. Who knows.

[bunnybeth]

CD14 and gearing up for some BD action. :D If my cycle is anywhere around normal, I expect to O between Saturday-Monday. I just really, really hope I O this cycle. My temps are more normal than last time, so I think it's probable. Still, I'm tempted to go out and try some OPK's.

cowgirl Given your CM, putting in that Saturday temp seems just fine. When all's said and done a day off either way doesn't matter that much anyways.

ABirney Is your room colder than usual or anything? That could affect your waking temp. If that's the case, you could try adding another blanket. But, it could be so many things, it can be so confusing. :confused: Good luck!

ausi2b If you really don't want to see a false BFN, you could try on 18DPO if the witch hasn't shown yet. And, I agree that your chart is confusing, even with the clear thermal shift, the CM and OPK's could be right, and you may not be as far past O as FF thinks.

Lilla Implantation usually isn't a temp jump. That said, CD23 looks like more of a typical high temp to me, not so much a jump. When are you planning on testing?

[Lilla]

Thanks ausi and bunnybeth! Ugh - can you tell I'm starting to over-analyze my chart just a bit?! All my temps are so odd that I should know better than to see anything very difinitive in there! :) Thanks for the advice.

Oh, and I'm planning on testing Friday, bunnybeth

[ausi2b]

Thanks JJ and BunnyBeth! I'm very sure I o'd on CD 14. My OPK was glaringly positive that day. On CD15, I had a positive OPK, but the lines were equally as dark, as compared to the day before where the test line was WAY darker than the control line. FF experts told me to mark it as a plus though. My coverline is too high, but again, the FF experts moved it to that. Makes for a less pretty chart in my opinion! Oh well. I guess I'll see what tomorrow brings and decide in the morning. ACK!

[jessied1025]

Hey girls,

Congrats to Lily. H&H 9 months to you.

ausi2bHere's hoping that your temps stay high.

CD7 for me. I have had some cramps on my right side, which is normal for me. Usually before I O I have pains on my side for a couple of days. So now I need to determine if I should use OPK's or wait a couple more days. What do you ladies think?

Good luck to anyone getting ready to test! Crossing my fingers for you! :)

[polkadot]

ausi2be...i think that the dip on 8DPO could have been an implant dip....see what tomorrows temp brings and then decide when you want to test. I had a dip on 8DPO and then got my BFP on 12 DPO...fingers crossed for you!!

[gator97]

Threadmistresses. . . kindly remove me from the thread. I appreciate all of the help here and charting did so much for me. AF arrived today marking our 1 yr. mark of trying. The RE is monitoring my cycles now so really no point in charting.

Thanks everyone! Best of luck to you in your TTC journey.

[polkadot]

oh gator...i am so sorry to see you go....but you better come back here and update us all when ya get your BFP..we will miss you!!! :D

[Lily]

Polkadot - Sorry it took me so long to reply to your post about the animated avatar. I found the image through Google when I was looking for Valentine Day pictures. I just right clicked on the image and copied the properties into the Avatar area on my CC User CP. I hope that helps. :)

Charliesangel - I have also heard that the doggie style position is good because it allows for better penetration and the cervix is just right there. ;)

MichelleRenee - Thank you for the congrats.

Ausi2b - Wow! Your chart looks awesome! We could seriously almost be chart buddies. My temps went up and down like that but stayed above my coverline. I would test again tomorrow if AF doesn't show. Good Luck! :)

jodylovesscotty - Thank you for the well wishes. :)

giry76 - Thank you for the congrats. I just wanted to say that your chart is looking good too. Best wishes.

gymwidow - Thank you for the well wishes.

bunnybeth - Thank you for the congrats.

Mrs.Jackson 05 - Thank for the congrats. You know the best thing about this month is that almost everyone gets 2 chances to become Oct. Mommies. I hope to see you in a couple of weeks. :)

Lilla - Thank you so much. Your chart is looking pretty amazing. Good luck tomorrow. :)

cowgirl, jenzen01, & jessied1025 - Thank you for your well wishes.

[Ilovemygeek]

I saw my NP about this crazy long cycle and she is having me start Provera tomorrow. She said my OB/GYN will probably have me start on Clomid if I do not O this next cycle. I am not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing. She also told me not to chart and that it is only something they recommend for people who are having problems conceiving. :mad: I responded that charting was the only thing keeping me from POAS everyday for the past 2 months wondering if I am pregnant yet. It has kept me sane during this 80 day cycle. Why do so few health care professionals believe in charting?

Anyone have experience with Provera? My NP said it will make me bloated and moody, sort of like having major PMS.

[suzfuzsunflower]

Anyone have experience with Provera? My NP said it will make me bloated and moody, sort of like having major PMS.

I have taken provera many times. I have had no problems on it at all.

[Charting is Knowledge]

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[MichelleRenee]

Hi everyone. I just wanted to announce that I will no longer be able to be a threadmistress for this thread. My workload for school is just very heavy this semester and as the weeks continue I just don't think I will have the time to dedicate to this thread that a threadmistress should have. If anyone is interested in being the new threadmistress please PM Sare79.

I will still be around when I can though!

[Ilovemygeek]

suzfuzsunflower I am glad to hear that! I was getting a little worried about how bad the side effects would be.

[Lilla]

ausi I am *dying* to know if you tested! I see you had another temp jump today! Still keeping fingers crossed for you........

[giry76]

7 DPO here and keeping everything possible crossed that this is it. DH's Aunt died yesterday after a 6 month long battle with a brain tumor. The funeral is Monday so I would like to test before then on the off chance that we get an early BFP and can tell MIL. My mom might also go to the funeral so it would be some good timing. IF it is a BFP we would wait till the "end" of the funeral to tell. Conflicting emotions are not fun and MIL needs her time to grieve.

[suzfuzsunflower]

Ah! I am so confused! Clomid cycle, think cm is totally mixed up. Would someone please look at my chart? Could I have possibly o'd? While that would be great (haven't ovulated in almost a year, if ever), we would have totally missed it. :( Please help!

Got to go. I'm a teacher - kids are coming in my room.

[LDS Angel 19]

Well, my temps took a nose dive and FF took off my crosshairs.... my temps have been so low this month, I have no idea why. So I also have no idea when/if I O'd. *sigh*

[ausi2b]

Morning girls!

Lilla - Hi there! Ha! No testing this morning. I couldn't bear to see another BFN! But that being said, I'm now officially late and had a temp jump again this morning. But ... I'm too nervous to test!! I might test tomorrow, but I'm scared. Maybe I'm not using a good test? I've been using Answer Earlys. What should I use?

[lawgirl4]

hi everyone!

giry - so sorry for your family's loss... on the flip side, thinking positive thoughts for you and a BFP!

ausi - I'm so anxious for you!! you must promise us that you will post here first thing after you test!! :) thinking positively for you too!!

as for myself... My temp did drop yesterday, though not below the coverline, and today it was slightly higher. Today is 10 dpo and while I have definitely been experiencing something a little heavier than "spotting," it is not anything I would officially call "AF." TMI alert - sometimes when I wipe, it seems like there is substantial bleeding, but that's the only time I see it - there is *nothing* on the pad other than the faintest spotting. It's definitely strange. I am not really "holding out hope" for this cycle, but I am surprised that I haven't had full-on AF yet. Maybe in a couple of days. Anyway, I'm just trying to be positive and counting the days until my dr's appt - which is 2 weeks from today.

[gymwidow]

Hi ladies! CD14 and I'm here with some good news: my u/s this morning showed not one, but TWO eggies growing in my left ovary. Yay! :D I got my HCG shot and will go in tomorrow morning around 10:30 for my IUI. DH goes in at 8:40 for his part. He's not happy about it, but I'm not letting him complain. If the worst thing he feels is a little embarrassment about what he's in there doing, he can get over it. I'm the one taking the drugs and having the blood tests and u/s and catheters up my hoohoo. :rolleyes:

Sare and I have PM'd and I'm happy to move into the co-threadmistress position. Michelle, I hope I'll do you justice! Good luck with school. :)

bunnybeth, let's go eggies, indeed! I'm so excited that we have two this month. I definitely wouldn't mind twins! Have fun BDing!

lawgirl, your chart looks pretty good! I'm sorry that the spotting is causing you grief. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.

ABirney, I hope you feel better soon! I'm sorry I have no idea how to help keep your temps steady while you're sick.

ausi2b, I hate the waiting! I hope the day passes by quickly for you. Will you test again tomorrow?

gator, best of luck to you!!!

Ilovemygeek, I had no s/e that I could tell when I took Provera. I hope you're the same! I think some docs just don't see charting as all that accurate. I think it is for the most part, but it's definitely hard to interpret them sometimes. And there are so many things that can affect them, like the drugs many of us have to take, or when we get sick or travel or just don't sleep well, etc. If it makes you more comfortable, definitely keep charting!!!

giry, I'm so sorry. I hope you get good news this weekend. I'm sure everyone in your family will appreciate hearing it now.

suzfuz, from your chart, it doesn't look like you've O'd yet. Are you getting monitored while on the Clomid? You should have a blood test around CD21 if you can - that will tell you for sure, no matter what your chart says.

LDS, wow, what a weird chart. I'm so sorry. I hate when our bodies don't do what they're supposed to!

[bunnybeth]

Didn't get anything I'd deem EWCM yesterday, so I let DH off the hook when he came home from class. He was tired, it was late, blah blah blah. Tonight, the BD begins, even sans EW because I'm just too nervous not to.

Lilla Just one more day, crossing my fingers for you!

ausi2b Ok, that makes sense. I've never used OPK's though. Such self control with not testing! But, that's great you had another temp jump. Looking pretty...

Ilovemygeek I think it's because the health care field is apparently still quite sexist. And behind the times where women's bodies are concerned. :p No Provera advice from me, but lots of luck.

suzfuzsunflower I don't see a clear O thermal shift. Do you wake up at different times on Sunday and Monday? That could explain that difference in temp.

lawgirl There's still hope, your temps are definately still up. Crossing my fingers for you.

gymwidow 2 eggs is not a bad thing. ;) Even if you don't have twins, it at least gives more places for the boys to swim to! LOL

[lawgirl4]

"He's not happy about it, but I'm not letting him complain. If the worst thing he feels is a little embarrassment about what he's in there doing, he can get over it. I'm the one taking the drugs and having the blood tests and u/s and catheters up my hoohoo."

gymwidow, that made me smile! :) lol. very exciting about your 2 eggs!! hope everything goes as well as possible!

[ausi2b]

Sorry to be a downer - but I think I'm out. Despite the lovely temp jump, I just went to the bathroom and found red blood when I wiped (sorry TMI). I just don't understand my temp jump today!! :( :( :(

[Jenzen01]

ausi2b - I wouldn't trust anything with your temp still so high ... you might want to test just in case. Your temp really should have dropped if that's AF.

As for me, I got hairlines today, so I'm either 2DPO or 3DPO. I woke up later than usual on CD15, so I don't know if I can trust that temp. So, I either ovulated on CD14 or CD15 ... whatever.

Here's hoping the 2WW goes quickly and that there's good news at the end of it!

[cowgirl]

BabylustThanks for your input. My temp has been down the last 2 days so now FF took away my crosshairs.
Bunneybeth thanks for your thoughts.
ldsangel I had the same thing happen. Only my temps were high at the beginning.
Lawgirl That is strange. Hopefully you will get some answers in 2 weeks though I am sure waiting is going to be hard.
GymwidowCongrats on being co-mistress. Yay for there being to eggies.
Jenzen Good that you O’d even if you are not sure on the date. I would use dpo2 if you are unsure that way you won’t test to early.

Well FF took away my crosshairs since my temp dropped yesterday it was up today but not by much. My DH was gone for a week and I had really high temps while he was gone then they went down when he got back. I think my sleeping pattern was different while he was away. I guess only time will tell. Hopefully we can get some Bding ;) in the rest of the week in case I have not O’d.

[JayJay]

I have a question, and it may be a silly one.

Ever since DH and I decided to start TTC, I've noticed two things. For one, I've noticed that my BB's are sore all the time. I mean like they have been really sore since the end of october when we started TTC. I never noticed it before we started. So is it from different hormones, possibly?

I've also noticed that my periods have gotten drastically shorter, and lighter. What in the world is causing these changes?? The cramping seems worse, but the flow doesn't last as long. I also never noticed that I spotted before AF before, but this cycle I did. Why would I start that now?

ETA: My temp was back down again this morning to 97.9 so I deleted my temp from yesterday because I was up a couple of times in the night with a bought of the stomach flu. Plus, we're dog sitting and the damn dog was barking and howling all night, so I didn't get a great night's sleep.

My OPK's should be arriving in the mail anytime now. I finally ordered some internet cheapies, just because it was pissing DH so much that I was buying all of the expensive ones, and not getting anything out of them. :(

Down to spotting today. Bring on that O!!

[Sare79]

Ever since DH and I decided to start TTC, I've noticed two things. For one, I've noticed that my BB's are sore all the time. I mean like they have been really sore since the end of october when we started TTC. I never noticed it before we started. So is it from different hormones, possibly?

I've also noticed that my periods have gotten drastically shorter, and lighter. What in the world is causing these changes??

Ditto. I have noticed this too, and we had been off BCP for a few months before we really started.

[MichelleRenee]

gymwidow, I'm sure you'll be a great co-threadmistress!!!

I think it is for the best that I gave up the position..... because today I got a call that I got the internship that I applied for!!! It is an amazing opportunity for me and I am thrilled beyond belief! This has to be the next best thing to getting a BFP!!! But it's gonna keep me so busy... I hope we still have time to BD!

[charliezangel]

've also noticed that my periods have gotten drastically shorter, and lighter. What in the world is causing these changes?? The cramping seems worse, but the flow doesn't last as long. I also never noticed that I spotted before AF before, but this cycle I did. Why would I start that now?

Before you started TTC, did you use condoms when you had sex?? I've heard that semen softens the cervix. Perhaps if you are having sex closer to AF it is starting it a bit early because of this??

Am I right on that though...semen softening the cervix.?

[Lilla]

Morning ladies!

I was going to test this morning if I had no AF...... Well, no AF to speak of yet - but my temps are starting to nosedive. I'm thinking she's about to show at any time.

Sorry to be such a downer first thing in the morning.

[jbemommy]

I got a BFP!!!!

Babydust to you all!

[armadillo]

Woohoo!! Congrats, Jbemommy!!!!

[lawgirl4]

congrats jbemommy!!!! wonderful!!

lilla - don't give up. my temps went down 2 days ago, AND I have been spotting - but my temp rose again today. It's really not over until AF shows and your temps show a consistent fall.

hanging in here at 11 dpo! Again, I would love some opinions on my chart if anyone isn't bored by me yet! :)

edited to add - does anyone know what the cervix does after implantation? does it move up or down, and is it soft or firm?

[Jenzen01]

Congrats, jbemommy!

lawgirl4 - I think your chart looks really good so far. :)

I'm 4DPO, and I don't think I'll temp for a while. There's really no reason to once I know I've ovulated. Of course, I always say this, and then I get addicted to recording my temp.

I swear, I feel like I have a hangover this morning. If it weren't so early in my cycle, I would think I was preggers. :)

[bunnybeth]

CD16 and the BD has begun. Got lots of EWCM this morning already, so if all goes as usual, I should O this weekend. Which means I should really set my alarm so I can temp at the usual time for the highest accuracy. It's worth it, and I can just go back to sleep after I temp.

ausi2b Sorry AF showed. :(

MichelleRenee Congrats on the internship. I'm sure you'll find a way to work in BD to your new schedule. ;)

Lilla Not a great sign on the temp, but it's not over till AF shows.

lawgirl Another nice, high temp, it's looking really pretty. :) When are you thinking about testing? All that spotting is strange, but I wouldn't think too much of it at this point.

Congrats jbemommy! H&H 9 months to you! :D

[ausi2b]

Morning girls. Temp took a major nosedive today, so I'm calling it. Oh well. I'm trying to think positively about this month. I've decided that I am NOT temping this weekend (which is such a big deal for me - I never NOT temp!) and I'm going to enjoy some drinks, which I pretty much gave up on a few months ago. Here's to major BFPs this month!! :)

Congrats Jbemommy!

Threadmistress - please move me to waiting to O! Thanks!

[ptcrn]

Congrats jbemommy! H&H 9 months!

Sorry about AF, ausi2b. Sounds like a good plan, having a few drinks and not temping! You deserve to treat yourself!

lawgirl, I'm pretty sure the cervix stays low and firm following implantation. I know that it does (should) throughout pregnancy right up until it begins to soften again before birth. I think your chart looks great! Are you testing soon?

My temp rose a bunch today and I've just been feeling "weird" lately. I've been really lightheaded off and on, and this morning I could feel my heart practically beating out of my chest! Of course this could all just be related to stress, but I prefer to think it is FPS! :) I know its probably too early for implantation, right? I'm at 6 DPO. I'm trying not to think about it. ;)

[Kimmer]

Congrats, jbemommy!
Happy 9 Months to You!

[polkadot]

jbemommy- congrats to you and a H&H 9 months too!! Spread the baby dust!!

lawgirl- hope that spotting was implant and like you said...its not over till AF shows...fingers crossed for you!!!

ausi2b Sorry AF showed.

MichelleRenee Congrats on the internship. I am sure you will find some way to fit in the bding ;)

ptcrn- i like that high jump today....lookin good...

and about me: well the bd fest began last night...i used to Preseed and it was pretty good, i had instead cups that i wanted to use but when i used it ...owcha..magowcha!! :eek: SO i think i pretty much **removed** anything that was there when i took that damn thing out...but oh well, i think it still pretty early for me to O...although i did get a very faint + OPK....so hopefully i will O sometime this weekend and we will not have to worry about figuring out our schedules to fit in Bding at the beginning of next week....

later girls....everyone...think high!!