TTC w/Charting Vol.12! Fresh Start and hoping for Fall Babies!

[Charting is Knowledge]

TTCers of ConstantChatter:
Charting Our Course to the BFPs

http://www.ripleysorlando.com/images2/fertilitystatues.jpg
The fertility statues are known to work for some who rub them around the time of possible conception.
It is said that the baby is the most potent part of the statue.

So rub away! :D It's worth a shot!


Who we are:
This is a group of women using charting (temperatures, CM, CP, OPK/FM results, or a combination of these) to try to conceive and, along the way, are learning a heckuvalot about their own bodies! Many of us use a software program to keep track of our charts as well as allowing us to share them with each other. The most common ones are FertitlityFriend.com and Ovusoft.com.

Your threadmistresses for this thread are Sare79 and MichelleRenee

To our members:
This thread gets very busy at times, so in order to keep things less overwhelming and a bit more organized, we start a new thread each month as well as after 3 BFPs. A link to the new thread is always posted at the end of the current thread to help everyone find their way over. The threadmistresses would really appreciate it if everyone would post their updates in Red. That way, if we get a bit behind, it is much quicker to get the thread up-to-date.


Previous Thread... (http://www.constantchatter.com/showthread.php?t=13537)


KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!

Want to join the fun??
We welcome one and all. It doesn’t matter if you have never charted before or if you’ve been charting to avoid. I am sure you will find lots of help and support in this group.

If you would like to join, CD1 is the time to do it! That way, we can cheer you on
throughout your cycle, rather than 2 days before you test! :cool:

Please don't be discouraged by the number of posts in this thread. You don’t have to read the whole thread to join. Feel free to just jump in on the last page. Just read through these first couple of posts and post a reply with the following information and we will get you added right away. Of course, none of this info is a must but we like to know a little bit about one another.


CC Name:
Me: name/age
DH: name/age
Married since: date
Off BCP since: date
TTC since: date
Charting since: date
Known issues/test results:
Chart: link
Current status: waiting to O, What the bleep .., testing...

[Charting is Knowledge]

- Member ETF Status -

Lutealating:

Think I O'ed - testing 1/16-22
jeant ( http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/5ef37), Mayham (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/be39e), MichelleRenee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e174a)

Think I O'ed- Testing 1/23-1/29:
ausi2b (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f7062), Bellefior (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6231d), Deanna1018 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2979), Ellidew (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/78d2a), Hula1974 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/905ef), jbemommy ( http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1064ba), MrsJackson05 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e581e)

Folliculating:
Waiting to O (aka - Boring Part of the Cycle)
ABirney (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrsabirney), Alioop12345, Applebee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/98534), Armadillo (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f25aa), Berry, bumble, Bunnybeth (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e5de5), Copswife03 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/daf53),, CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas), cowgirl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f3285), Delaney21 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e9d11), Dlj78 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=dlj78), giry76 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/781ab),gmb4503 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/28f73), Graciebella (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7a038), Gymwidow (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/813ab), Hiker04 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e86f8), Ilovemygeek (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bec65), Jenzen01 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/41226), Jjsanner (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/24f94), JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf), Jnshanna (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cafa6), Katmg (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/89994), Kiddo (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/kiddo),KristieB (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/df6e5), lawgirl4 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/a6770),LDS Angel 19 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/64d1c), Lilo, magrat (: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/70df2), Marteneym (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fa78), octoberkate (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f8c44), Polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d), polarama, Ptcrn (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bed5d), Quartercentury (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3313f),Roberta (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10827a), Sare79 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/fe765), suzfuzsunflower (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/90828), & TazLuv (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e80b5)

Stagnating:
What the *bleep* is going on?!?!

Chart not Updated -- Waiting for an update:
Alioop12345, Kristi32302 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/45b0a),

Taking a Charting Break/Temporarily TTA:
url=http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/84b2d]gator97[/url] ,neenbean (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/66982)

Percolating:
Expecting Mommies!

BFP’s in January: (6)
Adam's Pi (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/95990), Dionysia (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/fdec3), mimieliza (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/b84ec), MSH, Spencer's_Girl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6f9cc), suiej (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10159a)

BFP's in December: (8)
Abby's Mom, ajlanden (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2fdee),Aletheia (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a0c60), Dotsie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e00ca), jeggink (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c595), Mrs. M. (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1a234), Sabriel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c), UTChick (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf25d)

BFP's in November: (7)
Almostthere, Ellebelle (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2f8f5), Jesseybell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cd4f1), Lindybug (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99db2), Linnybubbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2330), mkvh (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99502), mrst2b2003

BFPs in October: (19)...We Broke the Record for most BFP's in One Month!!!!
amurphy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a5e06), Bottleored (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/44b0a), BunnyBeth (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e5de5), Calla Lily (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b025d), Ds2003 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ds2003), flygirl, Gardenia (http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=gardeniacc), jbenny75 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/803b1), Kaeden's Mommy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bcdb2), Lizard (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/af125), Mystikal (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/RaeK622), nuhmah (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/d72dc), Ryan (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3f12b), SarahnCraig (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c1846), Shouldaeloped (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/63d7a), Soulmate (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Soulmate), Klav (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21291), ShelbyMay (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/67c07), Wrighty26 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/beb7b)

BFPs in September: (3)
Baby Lust (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Shanes_Angel), Lowcountrywed (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c4aeb), Sabriel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c)

BFPs in August: (11)
Akachan93 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/229b9), Crazycaro (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21ac6), Guinness (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=10&id=guinness&tc=0&p=), jeeplover (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/721bb), Indiana Bride (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1d936), LittleStar (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c204a), Mel7dog (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ca05d), Missy329 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2b4de), MMHinCA (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c14c1), Sinclair319 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/sinclair319), Stumbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b1333), Uskiku (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cdfb0)

BFPs in July: (10)
Elenitsa (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=13&id=elenitsa&tc=0&p=), Heidi0622 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/549f8), Jane&Andy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c455f), Kopper (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/9e5e6), MrsCantDecide (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59e5b), Red_Canuck, Sevilla, ShannonGH (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ShannonGH), Tracie (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/a18c8), Tunibell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59461)

BFPs in June: (2)
Christy5599, Lovin'it

Tributatoring:
Proud Cheerleaders!
T3h_wookie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/25336)

Please advise if I’m off-target with your ETF (that's Estimated Test-Fest) or other status, or just need a good old-fashioned Ovary Shout!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Our Members:

ABirney (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrsabirney)
Me: Angie, 30
DH: Scott, 29
Married since: Sept 25, 2004
Off BC since: Dec '04
TTC since: Sept '05
Charting since: Dec 20 '04
Known issues: none

Adam's Pi (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/95990)
Me: 25
DH: 28
Married since: June 29, 2002
DS: June 25, 2004
Off BCP since: October 2002
TTC since: December 2005
Charting since: December 2005 (but we charted when we TTC DS)
Known issues/test results: This is my first known cycle since giving birth to my DS--I BF'ed him and didn't have a PP AF for 17.5 months....I'm still figuring out what my body is up to

Alioop12345
Me: Alioop12345 (33)
DH: Aron
DS: Jacob (02/03/04)
TTC #2 since: 5/05
Known issues/test results: Seeking help from RE using Gonal F, progesterone, estrodial, and HcG...probably going to use Viagra next cycle

Applebee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/98534)
Me: Lori Ann
DH: Ted
Married since: 4.4.03
Charting since: since Feb '05
Known issues/test results: Day3 Test all ok, DH's SA ok, but will have another one done. Motility on the low side

Armadillo (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f25aa)
Me: 27
DH: 30
Married since: 10/2004
Off BCP since: 7/2005
TTC since: 8/2005
Charting since: 11/2005
Known issues/test results: none

ausi2b (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f7062)
Me: ausi2b, 27
DH: 28
Married since:
Off BCP since: Oct/Nov 2005
TTC since: Oct/Nov 2005
Charting since: Oct/Nov 2005
Known issues: None

Bellefior (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6231d)
ME: 36
DH: 36
Married since: 5/31/03
Off BCP since: 5/05
TTC since: 5/05
Charting since: 5/05
Known issues/test results: None

Berry
Me: Connie, 29
DH: K, 31
Married since: 06/08/02
Off BCP since: May 2004
TTC since: December 2005
Charting since: November 2004
Known issues/test results: None

Bumble
DH: 33
Married since: 8.2003
TTC since: 4.2005
Charting since: 1.2005
Known issues/test results: miscarriage 6.2005 (8 weeks)

Bunnybeth (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e5de5)
Me: Bethany (27)
DH: Elon (28)
Married since: 6/23/02
TTC since: 1/06
Charting since: 3/02
Known issues/test results: miscarriage at 12w1d (12/7/05)



Copswife03 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/daf53)
Me: Brooke/25
DH: Joe/27
Married since: 10/11/2003
Off BCP since: 8/20/2005
TTC since: 8/20/2005
Charting since: 8/22/2005
Known issues/test results: None

cowgirl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f3285)
Me: 28
DH: 33
Married since: 6/14/2003
TTC since: 6/14/2004
Charting since: 10/24/2005
Known issues/test results:

CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas)
ME: MMT age 33
DH: CT age 36
Married: 11/04
Off BCP: 12/04
TTC since: 01/05
Known issues/test results: Long cycles

Delaney21 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e9d11)
Me: Jessica, 26
DH: Kyle, 27
Married since: June 14, 2003
Off BCP since: Feb, 2005
TTC since: November, 2005
Charting since: November, 2005
Known issues/test results: 2 ovarian surgeries

Dlj78 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=dlj78)
Me: Dana/27
DH: Nick/31
Married since: 9/18/04
Off BCP since: 2/2005
TTC since: 6/2005
Charting since: 2/2005
Known issues/test results: none

Deanna1018 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2979)
Me:37
DH:38
Married since: 9-6-03
TTC since: Will start Jan 06'
Charting since: October 2005
Known issues/test results: None

Ellidew (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/78d2a)
Me: ellidew, 25
DH: 27
Married since: June 1, 2002
Off BCP since: 01/2005
TTC since: 07/2005
Charting since: 01/2005
Known issues/test results: none

Gator97 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/84b2d)
Me: Kristen/30
DH: Peter/30
Married since: 11/06/04
Off BCP since: 12/04
TTC since: 02/05
Charting since: 12/04
Known issues/test results: dx endometriosis/adenomyosis 08/05
m/c 09/28/05

giry76 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/781ab)
Me: Colleen/29
DH: Troy/30
Married since: September 25,2004
Off BCP since: November, 2004
TTC since: December 15,2005
Charting since: November, 2004
Known issues/test results:Ovarian cyct last cycle


gmb4503 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/28f73)
CC Name: gmb4503
Me: Gina/26
DH: Steve/27
Married since: April 5, 2003
Off BCP since: Sept 2003
TTC since: June 2004
Charting since: Sept 2004
Known issues/test results: SA-normal, taking 50mg Clomid

graciebella (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7a038)
Me: graciebella/34
DH: hubby /29
Married since: 10/09/04
Off BCP since: long time
TTC since: 10/04, with 6 month break
Charting since: 10/05
Known issues/test results: 1 blocked tube, irregular ovulation

Gymwidow (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/813ab)
Me: Melissa/28
DH: Alan/29
Married since: June '03
Off BCP since: Feb. '05
TTC since: June '05
Charting since: Feb. '05
Known issues/test results: PCOS diagnosed 9/05; 50 mg Clomid 11/05

Hiker04 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e86f8)
Me: C, 26
DH: K, 37
Married since: 9-4-2004
Off BCP since: 5-2004
TTC since: 6-2005
Charting since: 6-2005
Known issues/test results: m/c Aug 4, 2005

Hula1974 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/905ef)
Me: Heather/31
DH: Tim/31
Married since: 6/8/02
Off BCP since: 8/04
TTC since: 10/05
Charting since: 2/05
Known issues: Migraine Headaches

Ilovemygeek (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bec65)
Me: Rachel (23)
DH: Trevor (23)
Married since: June 8, 2002
Off BCP since: June 12, 2005
TTC since: As soon as my cycles regulate themselves
Charting since: June 12, 2002
Known issues/test results: None

jbemommy ( http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1064ba)
Me: Shana 32
DH: 40
Ann: 6/22/02
DD #1: 2/3/04 (conceived first cycle off BCPs!)
TTC #2: since Aug. 2005

jeant (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/5ef37)
Me: Jean, 34
DH: Craig, 33
Married since: June 19, 2004
Off BCP since: June 5, 2004
TTC since: November 1, 2005
Charting since: July 2004
Known issues: Autoimmune thyroid disorder, correlated with higher risk of miscarriage.

Jenzen01 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/41226)
Me: 28
DH: 38 (next week)
DS: 12.21.04
Married since: 10.04.03
TTC since: 12.12.05
Known issues/tests: miscarriage @ 8 weeks 10.08.05

Jjsanner (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/24f94)
Me: Jen, 30
DH: Eric, 33
DS: Elijah, born 2/6/2004
Married since: 4/26/2003
Off BCP since: 10/2004
TTC since: 6/2005
Charting since: 10/2004
Known issues/test results: None

Jnshanna (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cafa6)
Me: Shanna/29
DH: Jose/30
Married since: 10/01/94
Off BCP since: Haven't been on BCP for many years.
TTC since: July 2005
Charting since: 8/07/05
Known issues/test results: None

JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf)
Me: Jody, 32
DH: Scott, 31
Married Since: August 30, 2003
Off BCP Since: At least 10 years now
Charting Since: January 2005
Known issues/test results: None

[Charting is Knowledge]

Members continued...

Katmg (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/89994)
Me: Katmg, 26
DH: Jim, 30
Married since: Nov. 8, 2003
Off BCP since: 05/04
Charting since: 08/04
TTC since: 05/05
Known issues/test results: None

kiddo (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/kiddo)
Me: Karen, 29
DH: Nate, 30
Married since: Oct 26, 2002
Off BC since: July '04
TTC since: August '04
Charting since: August '05
Known issues: none

KristieB (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/df6e5)
Me: Kristie/26
DH: Troy/25
Married since: 4/16/05
Off BCP since: N/A
TTC since: 11/05
Charting since: 08/05
Known issues/test results: None

Kristi32302 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/45b0a)
Me: Kristi/31
DH: Kelly/32
Married since: March 23, 2002
Off BCP since: Feb. 2004
TTC since: May 2004
Charting since: March 2004
Known issues/test results: None

lawgirl4 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/a6770)
Me: 31
DH: 36
Married since: July 6, 2003
Off BCP since: April 2005
TTC since: January 2005
Charting since: April 2005
Known issues/test results: none, but I seem to have slightly longer cycles


LDS Angel 19 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/64d1c)
Me: Michelle, 22
DH: Aaron, 23
Married since: Sept 4th 2004
Angel: Allison Grace, born and died June 17 2005
Off BCP since: Never on BCP
TTC (again) since: August 2005
Charting since: Charted August, took September off, and now starting again.
Known issues/test results: None at this time

Lilo
Married since: 2002
Off BCP since: late 2004?
TTC since: January 2006
Charting since: November 2004
Known issues/test results: None
Chart: no link at the moment

magrat (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/70df2)
Me: Sarah, 26
DH: Ben, 25
Married since: 03/01/03
Off BCP since: December 3rd, 2005
TTC since: December 23, 2005
Charting since: December 2005
Known issues/test results: None

Marteneym (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fa78)
Me: 22
DH: 27
Married since: October 4, 2003
SWH since: October 2004
TTC since: December 2004
Off BCP since: September 2004
Known issues/test results: Delayed Ovulation, SA issues, Varicocele possible
9/9 FSH and Rubella- NORMAL
9/12 SA ABNORMAL- count 30mil/
motility 30% -repeat in 8wks

Mayham (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/be39e)
Me: 28
DH: 28
Married since: 5.02
TTC since: 3.05
Charting since: 5.05
Known issues/test results: None

MichelleRenee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e174a)
Me: Michelle/ 23
DH: Michael/ 29
Married since: May 29, 2005
Off BCP since: September 2005
TTC since: September 2005
Charting since: October 2005
Known issues/test results: none so far!

mimieliza (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/b84ec)
Me: Michelle/27
DH: Reid/29
Married since: 8/9/03
Off BCP since: 1/04
TTC since: 12/05
Charting since: 12/12/05
Known issues: Long, irregular cycles

MrsJackson05 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e581e)
Me: Jessica/23
DH: Travis/29
Married since: September 10th, 2005
TTC since: October, 2005
Charting since: Ocober 2005
Known issues/test results:

neenbean (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/66982)
Me: 30
DH: 30
Married since: 11/15/03
Off BCP since: 2/04
TTC since: waiting until 1/06
Charting since: 10/05/05 (also did before BFP with DD)
Known issues/test results: none

octoberkate (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f8c44)
Me: Kate, 30
DH: Rich, 39
Married since: 10/13/2002
DS #1: Alex 4/5/04
Off BCP since: Dec. 15, 2005
TTC since: Dec. 15, 2005
Charting since: October 2005 (for practice and totally half assed)
Known issues/test results: None


polarama
Me: Jenn, 30
DH: Chris, 30
Married since: 7/27/2002
Off BCP since: November, 2005
TTC since: November, 2005
Charting since: December, 2005
Known issues/test results: Possible PCOS, but never confirmed.

polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d)
Me: Lauren 26
DH: Brian 27
Married since: Nov. 20, 2004
Off BC since: May 05
TTC since: May 05
Charting since: May 05
Known issues: m/c 1/06

Ptcrn (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bed5d)
Me: Jen/30
DH: Gerry/29
Married since: July 30th 2005
Off BCP since: August 14th 2005
TTC and Charting since: August 14th 2005
Known issues/test results: none

Purplesunshine7
Me:
DH:
Married since: 4/5/03
Off BCP since:
TTC since: 7/05
Known issues/test results: m/c 6/2/05

Quartercentury (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3313f)
Me: QC, 27
FH: just FH, also 27
Married since: nope, we're skipping straight to the baby part
Off BCP since: no BCP, off hormonal contraceptives since 10/2003
TTC since: 12/05
Charting since: 10/03
Known issues/test results: Sometimes short LP

Roberta (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10827a)
Me: roberta, 27
DH: zak, 29
Married since: 11/15/03
Off BCP since: 10/05
TTC since: 10/05
Charting since: 12/05
Known issues/test results: Miscarried naturally @ 7 weeks 11/05

Sare79 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/fe765)
Me: Sarah, 26
DH: Joel, 26
Married since: October 15, 2005
Off BCP since: May, 2005
TTC since: June 2005
Charting since: November 1, 2005
Known issues/test results: m/c in 2002

suzfuzsunflower (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/90828)
Me: Susannah
DH: Matt
Married since: 8/9/03
Off BCP since: 3/05
TTC since: 3/05
Charting since: 3/05
Known issues/test results: annovulatory, long cycles; taking clomid

TazLuv (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e80b5)
Me: CM/29
DH: BM/29
Married since: July 2002
Off BCP since: June 2005
TTC since: Aug 2005
Charting since: 9/23/05
Known issues/test results: Loooooooong cycles

[Charting is Knowledge]

Things I Have Learned About TTC
by WC's Sherylb

* TTC is a journey. You will discover things about yourself that you never expected. You will face fears you never thought you had. You will find joy in little things.

* TTC can bring you closer to your DH, or it can pull you apart. If your marriage is not solid, you will find out quickly.

* No one understands exactly what you are feeling at any given moment, but someone can empathize at least a little bit.

* You will experience an emotional roller coaster ride. There will be highs and lows and fast moments and slow. Sometimes you have to wait in a very, very slow moving line. You may not even get the seat you want. It is not always fun, it can be scary, but in the end it is worth it.

* "Just relax" is the last thing in the world you want to hear from someone, but it is OK if you say it about yourself.

* There will be moments when you question your own decision to start TTC. You will wonder if you should wait or if you should just give up. Those are normal. But you will get past those feelings.

* The blue and green turtle likes to pop its head out! You will hear of someone's pregnancy and turn green with envy and blue inside because it isn't you.

* It isn't fair, it isn't easy, and it isn't pretty. But you keep doing it because the reward is worth it.

* You will be your best friend and your worst enemy. Your body will
surprise you and yet disappoint you.

* Some women do get lucky and conceive right away. Others aren't so lucky and have to struggle to get there. Hope you will be in the first category, but prepare yourself to be in the second.

* Once you decide to TTC, there will be babies and pregnant women everywhere! You could swear there is a baby boom going on!

* You will have questions. No one will ever be in exactly your position, so don't be surprised when no one can give you exactly the answer you are looking for. But there are people that can contribute, so don't be afraid to ask!

• Two lines on a pregnancy test is not the end of the struggle. Pregnancy has lots of struggles in and of itself.

[Charting is Knowledge]

HPT sensitivity chart

These numbers might come in handy when shopping for HPTs.
The lower the amount of mIU measured, the more sensitive the test is!

AimStick Pregnancy Test Strip 20 mIU
AccuHome Midstream Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Pregnancy Test (Cup) 25 mIU
Clearblue +/- 25 mIU
Clearblue Digital 25 mIU
Confirm 1-Step Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Dollar Store Brand Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Equate Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
First Response Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
One Step Be Sure Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Precise Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Quickview Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Walgreen Digital 25 mIU
e.p.t. Home Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
Fact Plus Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
CVS Cartridge Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
CVS Midstream Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Drug Emporium Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. + / - Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. Certainty Digital Test 50 mIU
early Pregnancy test 50 mIU
RiteAid Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Target Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
WalMart Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Walgreens Pregnancy Test 100 mIU

[Charting is Knowledge]

- Common TTC abbreviations

This is a list of some of the more common TTC abbreviations. I know as a newcomer to the TTC threads, it can be hard to keep them all straight. I hope these will help, and if anyone has any they would like added, please let me know!


•2WW: "2 week wait" - The approximate time from possible conception to menstruation due date; Pregnancy tests should be taken near the end of the 2WW.
•AF: "Aunt Flo"; Your period; Menstruation
•AFNW: "Aunt Flo Not Wanted"; the day your period is expected to start, but you are hoping it doesn't!
•AO: anovulatory (cycle without ovulation)
•BBs: "boobs"; breasts
•BBL: "be back later"
•BBT: Basal Body Thermometer; This is used to measure your basal body temperature, when you wake up in the morning, after at least 3 hours of sleep, before you start to move around; Use a special BBT thermometer to take your temperature because they measure the small changes in temperature from day to day more accurately than the regular fever thermometers.
•BCP: Birth control pills
•BD'ing: "baby dancing"; baby-making intercourse
•BFN: "Big Fat Neutral" or “Big Fat Negative”; Negative pregnancy test.
•BF'ing: breast-feeding
•BRB: "be right back"
•CD: cycle day; a particular day in your menstrual cycle (example: CD1 is the first day of your period)
•CL: Cover Line; a visual tool used to separate the low (pre-ovulatory) temps from high (post-ovulatory) temps; a coverline is typically based on the temperatures 6 days prior to ovulation.
•CM: cervical mucous; one of the most useful clues your body can give you in predicting your fertility; it can range from dry, creamy, sticky, or (the most fertile) egg white/watery type.
•CF: cervical fluid; same as cervical mucus
•CP: cervical position; an optional, but sometimes really useful, fertility sign; CP will generally be low, firm and closed before and after ovulation, and high, soft and open during your fertile time.
•DD: "dear daughter"
•DH: "dear husband"
•DS: "dear son"
•DPO: Days Past Ovulation; number of days from your post-ovulatory temperature rise. (Example: 1DPO is the day after your ovulation)
•Endo: endometriosis (can be a fertility problem)
•EDC and EDD: estimated date of confinement (antiquated, but still used by physicians) and estimated date of delivery
•EPT: a brand of pregnancy test, or, generic for "early pregnancy test"
•EW or EWCM: egg white cervical mucus; the most fertile quality CM; it is slippery, clear and stretchy, like egg whites; also EWCF
•FAM: Fertility Awareness Method; the method of fertility and/or birth control that correlates the physical changes you experience during your cycle to predict when you are most fertile
•FF: Fertility Friend, an online (free, for basic services) fertility charting site (website); (could also be formula feeding; check context)
•FM: fertility monitor
•FMU: first morning urine
•FP: follicular phase; the phase before ovulation, where the egg matures in the ovaries
•FRED: First Response Early Detection (pregnancy test)
•HCG: human chorionic gonadotropin; the hormone that is present during pregnancy and what the HPT's and blood test measure to determine if you are pregnant
•HTH: "hope that helps"
•HPT: home pregnancy test; a urine pregnancy test you can take at home
•IMHO: "in my humble opinion"
•IMO: "in my opinion"
•IUI: intra-uterine insemination
•IVF: in vitro fertilization
•KU: knocked up
•LH: leutenizing hormone; the LH surge is what is measured by the OPKs; this hormone signals the egg to burst from the ovary
•LP: luteal phase; the phase of your cycle that begins just after ovulation and continues for 10-18 days, ending with the start of your next period; during the LP, your body continues to build up the lining of your uterus, and produce hormones which would support a pregnancy; this is the time when a fertilized egg can implant into the uterine lining
•NFP: Natural Family Planning; similar to FAM, but with abstinence during the fertile period
•O, Oing, Oed: ovulation, ovulating, or ovulated
•OPK: ovulation predictor kit; tests for presence of LH surge that usually precedes ovulation by 12-48 hours; these tests are quite expensive and not always accurate (if you take medication or depending on your age); these are optional when charting with FF, but if your fertility data is not clear it can bring more light and help interpret difficult cases
•OS: Ovusoft; charting software based on TCOYF
•PCOS: polycystic ovarian syndrome (a fertility problem)
•PG: pregnant
•PIAC: pee in a cup
•POAS: pee on a stick
•RE: reproductive endocrinologist
•SA: semen analysis
•SH: "sweet husband"
•SO: "significant other"
•SYS, SYL : See ya soon! or See ya later!
•TCOYF: Taking Charge Of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler; a book and website about charting and fertility.
•TMI: "too much information" - There is no such thing when TTC!
•TTA: "trying to avoid"
•TTC: "trying to conceive"
•TTFN: "ta-ta for now"
•TTYL, TTYS: "talk to you later" or "talk to you soon"

[Charting is Knowledge]

Resources borrowed from Still At It:

Abbreviations and acronyms
List of TTC & IF acronyms written out (http://womens-place.com/ttc/ttcacronyms.php)

HPT Sensitivity Comparison Charts
Fertility Plus (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hpt.html)
Pee On A Stick (http://www.peeonastick.com/hpts.html)
Mama's Ark (http://www.mamasark.com/hpt.htm)
Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com/pregnancy-test-sensitivity.html)
Remember, the hCG starts at 1 at implantation and increases as time goes on, so the smaller amount of hCG it measures, the more sensitive the test is!

Books
Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler, MPH (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060937645/qid=1041654042/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

The Fertility Sourcebook by M. Sara Rosenthal, PHD (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0737303808/qid=1042220393/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)

Inconceivable by Ben Elton (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385334656/qid=1041659461/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)
The movie "Maybe Baby" (below) is based on this book

Inconceivable: A Woman's Triumph Over Despair and Statistics
by Julia Indichova (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0767908201/qid=1059292613/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

The Infertility Diet: Get Pregnant & Prevent Miscarriage by Fern Reiss (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1893290395/qid=1059292976/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

Conquering Infertility: Dr. Domar's Mind/Body Guide to Enhancing
Fertility & Coping with Infertility by Alice Domar, Phd (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0670031550/qid=1059293116/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/103-2812959-1358247)


Girlfriend to Girlfriend: A Fertility Companion by Kristen Magnacca (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1588202135/qid=1082306449/sr=8-2/ref=pd_ka_2/104-9895052-8814318?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

Movies
Maybe Baby (2001) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000062XKW/qid=1041654127/sr=8-4/ref=sr_8_4/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=video&n=507846)

She's Having A Baby (1988) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6300988996/qid%3D1041654195/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-0287896-1655948)

Websites (by subject)

Charting
Ovusoft aka TCOYF (http://www.ovusoft.com/)
The site for Toni Weschler's book which includes message boards, chat and cycle galleries which are very helpful.

Fertility Friend (www.fertilityfriend.com)
A free charting site which includes a lot of information and cycle galleries.

Local Support
RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/chapters/resolvenearyou.jsp?name=chapters)
Nation-wide referrals to local support groups and therapists.

The American Infertility Association (http://www.americaninfertility.org)
Lots of information and support, including message boards and chat rooms.

Financial Concerns
ARC: Advanced Reproductive Care (http://www.arcfertility.com/)
information on financing infertility treatments

Family Fee Plan (http://www.amerifee.com/fertility-financing/index.asp)
information on financing infertility treatments

State Insurance Requirements (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/advocacy/insurance/index.jsp?name=advocacy&tag=insurance)
Links from the Resolve site about insurance & laws.

Inciid's Insurance pages (http://www.inciid.org/index.php)
Click through menu on right for more financial topics and the insurance forum.

General TTC
Trying To Conceive.com (http://www.tryingtoconceive.com/)
All things TTC! Lots of info as well as a place to buy herbal therapies for
conceiving.

Baby Med (http://www.babymed.com/)
Tons of information. Everything from Chinese gender charts to an FAQ section on pretty much any TTC question you could have.

Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com)
Baby makin' supplies!

OBGYN.net (http://www.obgyn.net/)
Lots of general info on women's health. They also have doctors on line who
answer questions.

Infertility Sites
INCIID (http://www.inciid.org/)
Pronounced "inside". (The International Council on Infertility Information Dissemination)
Excellent national resource.

Resolve (http://www.resolve.org)
Wonderful site with lots of infertility information and support.

I dream of baby (http://www.idreamofbaby.com/fertility.php)
Learn the basics of fertility issues here. This site also has a great message
board community!

Fertility Plus.org’s list of female hormone levels (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hormonelevels.html#female)
Starting your fertility work-up? Check out this site to see a list of the
commonly tested female hormone levels, the function of each hormone, and the normal levels of each hormone.

Shared Journey (http://www.sharedjourney.com)
Shared Journey is dedicated to providing quality information on topics such as
infertility, miscarriage, surrogacy, pregnancy after infertility, living
child-free, and adoption. Our information is supplied by well noted Reproductive
Endocrinologist's, Psychologists, Adoption professionals and links through
various sites.

FertileHeart (http://www.fertileheart.com)
A community of people exploring holistic approaches to fertility. A site by
author Julia Indichova (see books above)

Specific IF Issues
Soul Cysters (http://www.soulcysters.com)
PCOS site with lots of support and info

Dr. Beer (http://www.repro-med.net)
Reproductive Immunology information, including lists of tests, pricing, local referrals

Reproductive Immunology Support (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/immunologysupport/)
Yahoo group for RI patients, tons of info and articles

Info for Family and Friends
Empty Arms (http://www.vocalicious.com/empty_arms/empty_arms_mod.html)
This is a great video so they can understand what you're going through. (And get out your kleenex!)


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[Sare79]

The new co-threadmistress is MichelleRenee

[MSH]

Subbin'

Congrtulations to MichelleRenee you wil do a great job!

To everyone else *~* baby dust *~* I hope all of you get blessed very soon and go on to have happy an healthy babies. To our recent grads I wish you all the best. I know the first few weeks can be very nerve wrecking.

[LDS Angel 19]

Yay new thread!

I know I am THE worst at replying here... but I love reading along with all of you! Huge congrats to MSH!
As for me, CD 16 and not really sure yet when I'll O but I think I still have at least another day or two.

[gymwidow]

mimieliza, that's definitely a good thing!

ausi, see what happens tomorrow. Worst case, you're only off by one day. As long as you got your BDing in, you're fine!

polkadot, it's doubling, it's doubling, I'm sure of it!

MSH, woohoo!!!!!!!!!! H&H 9 months to you! :D

lawgirl, lol. Good to know!

jbemommy, I hope it's a sign of something good happening!

[lawgirl4]

subscribing!

wow, this is a fast thread!

LDS Angel - looks like we are in a similar boat - I am guessing that my O-date is going to be saturday...

[CTs_Punkin]

Just checking in... waiting for AF to start.... I have the spotting... but need to wait until CD1 to official call to get my CD3 bloodwork & clomid challenge going.

Congrats to MSH I think I've congratulated almost in every thread... :)

Thanks for the new thread!

[polkadot]

just subcribing...Sare it will have to be you next month...the threadmistress thing HAS to have something to do with it!!:D ;)

[Jenzen01]

Just checkin' in.

Congrats to MSH!!!

As for me, boring, boring part of the cycle. Just waiting for AF to pack her bags and leave. :) And then, well, we're going to get busy .... :D

Jen

[Sare79]

just subcribing...Sare it will have to be you next month...the threadmistress thing HAS to have something to do with it!!:D ;)

Thanks Lauren! I hope so too! Only 5 more weeks until we'll know!! UGH:eek:

[jbemommy]

Well, so far no more blood. It was pretty dark blood mixed with mucus. I'm hoping it's just from irritation.
Threadmistress, can you add my FF chart link? http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1064ba
Thanks!

[jodylovesscotty]

Congrats to MSH:) Sending sticky thoughts your way.

Sorry to all those that AF found:mad:

As for me..... we are embarking on our fertile period. However I don't know how productive it is going to be. DH's grandfather died on Tuesday evening so we have all the funeral stuff on the fertile days. We are still waiting to hear about DH's SA. The doctor is on vacation this week so when I called they said they would call next week. I also had to reschedule my HSG for Feb. 8th because the day I scheduled would have been after I already ovulated. One positive though, I found out that after our $200 deductible has been met (which it will with the SA and my HSG) then my insurance covers infertility treatments and such up to $10,000 a year:) With that great news I am hoping 2006 will be a great year!!

[suiej]

Congrats to MSH!!!

Subscribing!!


CD14 for me today. Bding every other day, until the OPKs start to show something. The last two cycles I've gotten postive OPKs around CD17, so maybe after this weekend!

I do have to admit that I feel much more relaxed this cycle, without the pressure of the holidays looming (and really, really wanting a BFP for Christmas) I feel a lot calmer!

[gmb4503]

Congrats MSH!! :D

[cowgirl]

Congrats MSH!! Sending sticky vibes your way!
Jody Yay for scheduling your test. hopefully you won't need them. Hope you hear back on the SA. Great about insurance.

Sorry to all I missed.

Must be good being a threadmistress. Just found out Dh is going to be out of town longer then expected. So if I O at the same we may miss it. :( But I am ok with that as October is not a good month.

[Adam's Pi]

Can I be the first graduate?

BFP this afternoon (woah). I'm 12 dpo. Still in shock. Details in a bit.

[Sabriel]

Yay! Congrats Adam's Pi!!! :D

I'll leave some more babydust, because apparently it is working!

~*~*~*~*BABYDUST*~*~*~*~

[MSH]

Can I be the first graduate?

BFP this afternoon (woah). I'm 12 dpo. Still in shock. Details in a bit.

Oh my gosh!! Wow ... this week has been awesome. Congratulations!! Now come join us in the Sept mommies thread :)

[Sare79]

Congratulations Adam's Pi! H&H 9 months to you!

[armadillo]

Congrats, Adam's Pi!!!!

[TazLuv]

Subscribing...

Where to start...

Congrats to Adam's Pi and MSH.

Sorry to hear things are going well sare, glad to hear things are better polkadot.

Mine took another interesting turn today. I didn't hear back from my doctor which means I won't get my test results until Monday but my cycle has stopped, which is odd. For years when AF shows up I get a couple days of spotting then 3 days of medium flow and that's it, nothing to heavy. I usually get the tender boobs and mild cramps. So I started spotting on Monday, spotted Tuesday, spotted VERY lightly yesterday and today - NOTHING. No tenderness, no spotting, its all very strange and really starting to get on my nerves! :mad: Hopefully the doctor's call on Monday gives us some idea of what is wrong.

[mayham]

MSH -- Congrats on your BFP!!!!!
polkadot -- thinking positive thoughts for you. Hope your test goes well tomorrow!
lawgirl4 -- I read in the last thread you figured out how to read your cervical position. That must have felt great to have a breakthrough! I've stopped checking b/c i really can't seem to tell the difference.
jodylovesscotty -- sorry about your DH's grandfather. That's good news about your health insurance!
suiej -- glad you're feeling more calm, i hope that does the trick for you this cycle!
cowgirl -- sorry you may miss your fertile time with DH out of town :(
Adam's Pi -- CONGRATS!
TazLuv -- sorry your cycle is wacky, hopefully the dr. can shed some light on things on Monday.

Tons of BFPs lately! I hope you all have happy and healthy 9 months!

Since I updated my chart the other day, it was bugging me so I had to override the coverline, and that made me feel a lot better! I'm 11 DPO right now, but feeling very hopeful. If my temp goes up tomorrow I may test...

[giry76]

Congrats MSH and Adam's Pi!

Like others I faithfully read, but I don't really post that often.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here.

Congrats to Adam's Pi!!

[MichelleRenee]

(I think I got this threadmistress thing figure out...;) )

Congrats to Adam's Pi!!

Mayham, I hope you get a BFP tomorrow! Good luck!

TazLuv, how frustrating. Hopefully it is just a fluke. I've had crazy cycles before but things always straighten out by the next cycle. Hang in there!

[JayJay]

Sare, sorry to hear about the old hag. I was really rootin' for you this month.

polkadot, keepin' my fingers crossed for you, girlie!

Don't have much time for SO's because I'm still in St. Louis and have a final assessment for our training that I still need to study for.

Theadmistress, I'm officially waiting to test. Test date is supposed to be the 23rd, but I doubt it'll be that long.

This 2WW hasn't been so bad since I've been away from home, and I didn't even get my CL until 6 DPO. :rolleyes: My temps are wacky this month.

My BB's are very, very sore these past two days, like I can't hardly even stand to shower and wash myself down because it hurts so much. I'm not going to stress about it though.

[MichelleRenee]

Ugh. I think my PNV's are making me sick. I've had a crampy, gassy feeling since I started them and tonight I have bad diarrhea. Should I stop taking them or will this taper off? I started them about 4-5 days ago.

[JayJay]

MichelleRenee, your siggie is soooo cute! :p

[spencer's_girl]

A Big Congrats to MSH and Adam's Pi H&H 9 months to you both
and for the rest of you ladies here is some
~*~*~*BABYDUST*~*~*~

[Ilovemygeek]

Congratulations MSH and Adam's Pi!

[Deanna1018]

Congratulations MSH and Adam's Pi!!!!!!

Not much going on in my end of TTC world although I do have a question. Is there any correlation between low temps above the coverline and difficulty with implantation of a fertilized egg? I am dpo4 and my temps don’t seem to be that high above the coverline. I am a little concerned. Thanks for any information anybody might have for me!

[Adam's Pi]

Thank you, everyone. I'm still in shock. Like I've said before, it took us 8 cycles (and 4 of those were loooooong) to concieve DS. I really expected it to take several months (I was hoping to be pg by June). I POAS again this morning, and again, it was positive. My temps are waaaaay up. Unbelievable.

My symptoms (more easily identified now that I can confirm pregnancy):
-feeling flushed in the face (this was the reason I tested)
-my bbs are growing (just noticed that one yesterday)
-no cramps, but more of a full feeling where my uterus is

MichelleRenee When do you take your vitamins? I've read that taking them at night, before you go to bed, helps.

[cowgirl]

Adamspi Congrats!!! H&H 9 months.
TazLuv Sorry about the wacky cycle. My last cycle was a bit like that. Hope the Dr has some ideas.
mayham Hoping your temp goes up.
Michelle Are you taking them with food? I would try taking them with food if not and maybe try a different time of day.
Spencer’s girl & Sabriel thanks for all the baby dust.
Deanna Not to freak you out but I read that temps close to the cover line could be low progesterone but not sure if it true or not. As FF has charts like that that end up pg.


We sure have been having a busy 2006 so far. Hope everyone has a good weekend.

[MichelleRenee]

I take them after eating around lunchtime every day. Honestly, in my case I don't think the time of day taking them matters because I'm not having symptoms each time I take it. It's more like I am having symptoms from the accumulation of the vitamins in my system. Does that make sense?

I already have a dr's appointment today so when I am there I will mention it. Thanks everyone!

[gymwidow]

Well, I'm out for the month. AF arrived this morning, after only a 9-day LP. I'm emailing my RE to let him know and to schedule my CD3 bloodwork for next month. I really didn't want to have to go back there for the whole series of pokings and proddings again.

DH brought up IUI this morning (I was already feeling that AF was coming on and was quite depressed about it, and he mentioned it as an option), so I know it's on his mind. I will let him make the decision about whether to go forward with that or try another Clomid-only cycle.

I probably won't be around much today; I just don't have the heart for the FP boards.

Congrats to Adam's Pi & MSH!

I hope you guys all have really good weekends. :)

[ausi2b]

Congrats Adams Pi and MSH! What a way to start my morning!

Glaringly positive OPK yesterday (CD14), along with the cramps, and a big temp jump today (I ended up throwing out yesterday's temp). So I think yesterday was my O day. Still a bit crampy today, so I'll take another OPK just in case. I'll wait for FF to give me my coverline before I call it!

[jbemommy]

Sorry about AF, gymwidow.
FF gave me crosshairs right when I thought it should, so that's good. So I'm 3dpo now. My policy is not to test till I'm late, and since I often have 30 day cycles, I'm waiting till the 27th to test. I just hate testing at CD28, getting a BFN and then having AF show up the next day.

[mayham]

MichelleRenee & cowgirl -- thanks for your positive thoughts, but I didn't end up testing b/c my temp went down a bit :( Still above cover, but if i see a decline over the weekend, I know AF will show next week.
MrsJackson05 -- glad your 2ww is going by fast for you. It definitely helps when you're busy to keep your mind off of obsessing!
MichelleRenee -- I had the opposite problems when I was taking PNV's daily, and my dr. did say it's likely because of the build up in my system over time. She recommended I take just the folic acid, as long as I'm eating healthy. At times when I feel like I'm not eating the best, I'll switch PNV and folic acid every other day.
gymwidow -- i'm so sorry about AF, and I totally understand your need to ignore the FP boards for a bit while you process this. That's good your DH is thinking about the next steps and being proactive.
ausi2b -- good luck in your 2ww!
jbemommy -- i know what you mean, i'm on 30 day cycles too, and early on in the ttc process I would end up testing right before AF came.

My temp went down a bit this morning, so no testing for me. I have a feeling if it doesn't go back up tomorrow, AF will be here soon. I've thought about stopping the temping once O is confirmed, but I'm such a data freak and love having complete charts, that I'm not sure I could do that. And I like having complete info to show the dr. blah.

[suiej]

Congrats Adam's Pi!!!!

[suiej]

Really weird thing yesterday. I started doing my OPKs, since I expect O this weekend or next week. It came up with a very very dark line in the "Test" window, and then a very faint line in the "Control" window. Now, had I not done these before, I'd assume it was postive, right?

But I know that the control line should come up a LOT darker, and even so, I tested with another brand (just because I had them lying around) and it was negative. Tried another test from the same box later, same thing. What gives? Did I manage to find a bum batch of OPKs at Target? Needless to say, I'm calling their customer support line, maybe they'll send me some free ones.

I'm even more frustrated now, because my chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10159a) is looking weird (it's been high since about CD7 (It's CD 15)) and now even my OPKs aren't working!

[roberta]

back to waiting to O. Af showed up last night. This is my heaviest, most crampy period since I stopped BCP in October. BD this past cycle was pretty poor so I didn't really think this would be our month. i am going to fix my chart this weekend to show BDing and actually start temping. :eek:

[Sare79]

Still just spotting. Normally I spot a little the night before, and then full on AF. So I guess that puts me at CD38. Why did my cycle have to change when I started charting? ;)

[Asha]

ok, i am not part of this group, but i have just been charting for two days now and i am already a worry wart. for two days now i have been showing a temp of 97.4. i am worried that this is not normal bc on the handy dandy chart that comes with the thermometer the temps don't even go that low.

eta - i have just looked at some of your charts and see your temps that low so perhaps i don't have anything to worry about and just need to use a more inclusive chart.

[polkadot]

i got my 2nd beta back....it was worse than the first...it dropped from 28 on wed. to 20 today...my dr says i should see af in the next few days...this weekend is going to be sooooo hard....

add me back to the list...waiting to O

[Deanna1018]

Polkadot..my heart is breaking for you right now. I feel so bad. I'll be thinking of you.

[Sare79]

Lauren: I'm so sorry. If you need anything, I'm here for you.

Rebjc: My temp was 97.1 yesterday and has been as low as 96.8. It's not a worry at all!

[Jenzen01]

polkadot - I'm so sorry. If you need anything, please let me know.

Jen

[ausi2b]

Polkadot - I'm so sorry. We're all here for you.

Suiej - that is a TRUE positive OPK. My positive OPKs are just like that. Control line light (even lighter than normal) and test line MUCH darker. Congratulations!!

Rebjc - everyone's temperature range is different. That temperature is TOTALLY normal!

[Sare79]

Lauren: Could we get your info again? I believe that I deleted it when we added you to the other list.

[lawgirl4]

polkadot, hugs to you. I think it's really interesting that your doctor noted that if you weren't charting, you would never have known that you were PG - that it would have just seemed like a regular AF. I remember reading somewhere that these super-early "miscarriages" are actually very, very common, and most women never know either way. I hope that offers you some tiny bit of consolation - to know that it's far more "normal" than one would think.

Still, I'm so sorry and hope that the process passes by quickly. *hugs* again.

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So, I'm still waiting to O... I have had fertile-quality CM for almost 2 weeks! I still have watery/EWCM, and my cervix is still high, soft, and very wet, so, I am guessing that O-day is imminent - but I feel that way every day! The waiting - wherever I am in my cycle - is driving me batty!!

[polkadot]

Me: Lauren 26
DH: Brian 27
Married since: Nov. 20, 2004
Off BC since: May 05
TTC since: May 05
Charting since: May 05
Known issues: m/c 1/06
chart:http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d

thanks girls...:)

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[jeant]

polkadot So sorry to hear the news. I will be thinking of you. Know that you have lots of wonderful ladies who are feeling your pain right now. Take care of yourself, mourn, and you will slowly feel better -- too slowly, but it will happen.

[Bellefior]

Polkadot Please know that I am thinking of you. You and your DH will be in my thoughts and prayers.

[MichelleRenee]

Polkadot: I am so sorry. I was really praying all month for you, especially today. Try to hang in there. We're here if you need us.

[ptcrn]

Oh, polkadot, I'm so sorry. :( **hugs** I know there is nothing anyone can say to make it better, but we are all here for you if you need us.

[TazLuv]

I'm sorry polkadot - we're all thinking of you! :(

[octoberkate]

Polkadot - you've got my thoughts too hon. Here's hoping for a better next cycle.

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So I'm not too thrilled with my chart right now. FF just gave me crosshairs, but they seem to think my O date was CD21, when I really think it was more like CD13. My chart was looking all nice until this morning - a good jump up for 7 or so days and then a really high second jump up. Until today when it dropped a good bit. We only dtd on days 6, 11, and 15 so if I o'd on day 13, like I was guessing, then I had a chance of good news this month. O'ing on cd21 just sucks because a) there's no way we bd'd close to that and b) that means that the next cycle is that much farther away. Pisser.

[mayham]

polkadot -- you're in my thoughts and prayers as well. I'm so sorry you have to go through this. We're all here for you!

[ABirney]

Polkadot {HUGS} so sorry to hear about that. My prayers are with you and Brian.
Congrats MSH and AdamsPi!
Sorry to those that AF showed up for and good luck to those testing soon.
I actually got a bit excited today because my CM was almost EW but not quite, but my CP was very high. But then of course this evening it was back to where it's been so I think it was a fluke. I wish my body would decide what it wants to do!

[giry76]

Polkadot, my heart sank when I read your post. I was really pulling for you.

[roberta]

Polkadot ((((hugs)))) You are in my thoughts. I know how difficult this is for you right now. I am so sorry.

[Alioop12345]

I am so sorry Polkadot....big hugs to you.....

[polarama]

polkadot, I'm so sorry to hear your news. Hugs to you..take care of yourself.

[Deanna1018]

DPO5 here and I am a little nauseous this morning. I also have pain on the left side of my stomach(I have been having it for the past 2 days but today is worse) ...hmmm wondering what it is because I have never felt this before. Of course I am extra aware of what sensations I am having right now. I know it is too soon for implantation but a girl can dream. We have my DH's work holiday party. It is a really big blowout. I will even be able to wear the gown that I wore in my SIL's wedding last summer. It is beautiful. I hope I get rid of the nausea. Off to get some shopping done.

[jeant]

I am definitely having lots of FPS this cycle! I am 8DPO. A few days ago I felt some weird cramps. Then the last few days my stomach area has just felt kind of weird. Plus I had spotting on 6DPO and 7DPO that was much lighter than my "usual" LP spotting. On the early side for implanation, I know, but maybe not totally crazy given my usually short LP?

I am afraid to get my hopes up, but I am nevertheless. I keep telling myself that will just make it worse when AF shows! I am such a pessimist. :)

[jbemommy]

PolkadotI'm so sorry about your loss. Hugs.
For DH's sake I'm not going to temp as often during my LP. My thermometer beeps and wakes him up, and since I often wake up early and temp then, I feel bad.

[JayJay]

Polkadot, my thoughts and prayers are with you and your DH. I'm very sorry about what happened.

As for me, 10 DPO today. And finally back home. Very, very tender BB's still, and a little bit of upset stomach and cramping today.

I had a little bit of spotting last night. But I'm not sure if that was caused by the BD'ing that DH and I did last night or not. ( Mind you, we hadn't seen each other for almost a week. ;) ) Does anybody think that that the spotting was caused from the BD'ing, or something else.

FF is now saying that my chart is possibly triphasic on day 28. Never had that before. How often do people have triphasic charts? Does it happen often?

[JayJay]

Okay, after messing with my chart a bit, I've got a question.

On days 4 and 5 DPO, I had gotten up early due to having earlier meetings those days. When I temped at 6 AM (normal time is 7 AM), my temp was 97.7. When I used the Temp Adjuster, it said it would have been around 97.9 at 7 AM.

When I changed both of the temps to the 97.9, my FF page says:

Possibly Triphasic on Day 28
Possible implantation spotting on Day 30.
Warning: This spotting may be unrelated to implantation. It is just an additional clue.

After further messing with it, my chart does say that when I leave the temps at 97.7. Is there any need to change it?

Opinions, please? :o

[ABirney]

Just checking in...
Sounds like good FPS, Deanna, jeant, and MrsJackson! Hope they turn into RPS soon!
Also MrsJackson I'm not sure about adjusting the temps but triphasic is a good thing!!
Well today my CP was really low and my CM sticky so I'm curious to see if my temp goes up tomorrow... I never got true EWCM but it was close yesterday and my CP was really high then. Unfortunately, DH had to work nights last night so we haven't BD'd since Wednesday. I'm not holding my breath this month. (If I even O'd at all.) I do get to go to my brother and SIL's baby shower tomorrow, so getting ready for that. She is having a scheduled c-sec either the 27th or 30th, the Dr will let them know on Wednesday which day it will be. They also have a 2 1/2 yr old daughter. Hopefully one of these days we can get them a cousin!

[jeant]

MrsJackson You're looking good!! I say test in a day or two. The triphasic is a really good sign, as is the spotting. Very cool.

[Baby Lust]

Mrs, Jackson, I am actually wondering if you didn't O until CD26. The previous days are still pre-O temps... Have you tried changing your tuning to see if FF changes it? You won't get solid CHs of course, because of your +OPKs much earlier, but you might be surprised at what FF says. If your O date doesn't change, I would say the .2 degree difference is not really worth adjusting for, especially if FF says triphasic either way. As far as the spotting goes, it could be implantation, which is usually brownish, or if could be from BDing, which is usually pinkish. I've had both. Anyway, good luck! Disclaimer: This is just my opinion! ;)

[Sare79]

Hey Jess! Wow- looking good. I wish you the best of luck!!! Based on the unpredictable cycle lengths, I would wait for another 5 or 6 days until testing. But I prefer not to get disappointed with BFNs when they are early. Just my recent experience!

[ausi2b]

Hope you all are having a nice weekend. I'm calling my O now.

Threadmistress - please change me to I think I O'd - testing 1/24. Thanks!

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[MichelleRenee]

I feel very tired this morning and I have a little bit of a sore throat and stuffy nose. I think I might be coming down with something. Yuck. That will make it harder for me to follow my FPS.... which I guess could be a good thing.

[mayham]

MrsJackson - that's really promising ff labeled your chart triphasic! Good luck!

MichelleRenee - I hope you feel better soon!

14DPO for me, and I can't really remember if I took my temp this morning. I was so sleepy, but set the alarm to 6am since that's when I take it during the week. I think I took it, but it was also the same temp as yesterday so I guess it's possible I didn't. Drat! This is going to be bugging me all day. I guess tomorrow's temp will tell what's really going on for me this cycle.

Took a HPT yesterday and it was a BFN. It looked as negative as it could have been, I think! The control line was dark, and the - line was light. (I took an equate, so a positive would have been a cross). I'm really not sure either way this cycle, so I'll have to wait and see. AF should be here on Tuesday and so then I'd have to call for the HSG...

[suiej]

Ladies, I am in shock.

I got a BFP around 2:00 yesterday afternoon!

I was getting ready to use an ovulation test, and I thought, just for kicks, to try a pg test since my temps have been so dang high, and FF is telling me that my temps indicate I could have o'ed around CD 5 to CD12. It's CD 17.

Imagine my surprise when two dark lines popped up!
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/suiej/PICT0126.jpg

Of course, seeing as how this cycle was completely wacky, I tested again this morning, and even more proof came right up:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/suiej/PICT0128.jpg

Needless to say, I'm really hoping my Dr. will have office hours tomorrow and I can go in for the blood test. DH is ecstatic and we're confused, but happy!!

~*BabyDust*~ for all!!

[kmmommy]

Congrats suiej! H&H 9 months!

[polkadot]

Congrats suiej! H&H 9 months!

[TazLuv]

Congrats suiej, H&H 9 months! :)

[Deanna1018]

Congratulations Suiej!!!!!!!!

[roberta]

Congrats Suiej! :D

[JayJay]

Okay.....when I changed the temps from 4 & 5 DPO to 97.9, and change the tuning/override to FAM, FF changes my O date to January 5th. It also puts me at only 10 DPO.

When I leave the temps from 4&5 DPO, and change the tuning/override to FAM, it moves my O date to CD 26.

I'm really confused right now. I don't know if I should leave the setting to Advanced, or change it to FAM. And I also don't know if I should change my temps, because those temps aren't accurate to the times that I normally wake.

Should I change the temps or leave them? Advanced or Fertility Awareness?

[Deanna1018]

MrsJackson...Concerning FAM or advanced setting...when i used FF I always kept it at FAM due to me wanting to follow the fertility awareness method. I also heard that the advanced method took previous charting patterns by other FF members into consideration where FAM doesn't. I hope you understand what I meant to say. I guess it is all about your personal choice. Concerning the temps I would just stay consistent with whatever you do decide to do. So if you alter one temp due to taking it at a different time then do it with every temp that isn't taken at the right time. I personally alter all my temps that I don't take at my regular time. I don't know if what I have said has been very helpful.

[Sabriel]

Congrats sueij!!!

~*~*~*~*BABYDUST*~*~*~*~

[Baby Lust]

Congrats sueij!

MrsJ, As you are tuning your chart, there should be explanations to each method. Have you looked at that? Good luck either way!

[polarama]

Congrats, Sueij! H&H 9 months to you!

Ladies, I *think* I'm out this month. Any of you chart experts care to take a peek at my chart here (http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=polarama)? OS is saying that O'ed on CD 22, but I'm thinking it was later than that (maybe CD 30, in which case we missed the egg). My temps have fallen in the past 2 days, I got a BFN, but no PMS-symptoms at all. Oh well....

[JayJay]

Has anyone ever had really, really sore BB's to the point that they throb even when you're sitting still? I've been experiencing that today, and never have. It hurts so badly! :o I've also had some cramping and a little bit of a backache right now. But I'm not too thrilled with that, because that's what I had last month before AF showed. :rolleyes:

I decided to use adjusted temps. All the adjusted temps on my chart are open circles so I can remember which ones they were. I left the setting to Advanced, because I really have no idea what to believe. I figured it would be better to have someone else tell me what was going on.

I'm anxious to see what my temp will be in the morning. I just hope I can sleep well so I can get an accurate reading.

Sare, thanks, girl! I'm really sorry about the old hag showing. I really thought that this was your month. I'm really not having a hard time with the tests. FF says the 23rd, and hopefully I can wait that long if AF doesn't show by then. FF says she could be here on Tuesday. We'll see.

Thanks to everyone else for their opinions. I'm very glad I have found a place like this to help me keep my sanity. God knows I need it. :p

[Sare79]

I was having the majorly sore bbs last month, and I actually still have them.
Totally not to do with TTC- I noticed that when I bend over my left breast is super painful and so I tried feeling for differences when laying down. When I poke at the spot, it doesn't hurt but when I drag my finger along the area, it is super sore! I'm seeing the doctor tomorrow and I'm going to ask about it. Not to scare you!

[JayJay]

Oh, Sare! I hope that everything turns out alright! I'll be thinking about you!
This throbbing is really weird, though. I've never experienced it before, but maybe that's why I'm weirded out by it. Who knows.

[Ilovemygeek]

Congratulations suiej!

[jeant]

Congrats suiej!

Ladies,

I have kind of a strange question for you all. Over the years, I've heard a lot of people say that they don't want to have children after 35. I even heard someone say that if it didn't work out to get pg (in this case with a second) before then, they'd just not do it. Why are people so freaked out by having a kid after turning 35? I'm trying to understand.

Just for the record: I'm 34. And yes, I know about the risk for Down's, etc., but that's about a half a percent (1 in 200) at 35 -- not overwhelming odds.

And to be clear -- I'm certainly not opposed to people ideally wanting to have their kids when they are younger. That part makes sense to me. It's drawing an absolute line that I don't understand. But I'm totally willing to hear people's reasoning -- I'm just very curious.

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Congratulations suiej!!! Happy & Healthy 9 months to you!

[lawgirl4]

congrats suiej!!!

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girls, I am getting *so* impatient. today is CD22 and still no O. My latest recorded O date was CD 24, but this is driving me nuts! We spent last night at my BIL/SIL's house in Michigan, where our room was *very* cold and I went to bed with wet hair, so I am discarding today's temp (97.3)... So theoretically, I *could* have ovulated today and not seen a temp rise due to the freezing temperature all night. I guess I need to get to bed and see what tomorrow's temperature brings! I never thought I'd say this, but DH is getting a little weary of BDing every night (!!!), but I don't want to skip a night until I know I've ovulated... *sigh*!!!

[Deanna1018]

Not much going on with me. DPO7 here and obsessing over every little twinge and pain. If AF doesn't show up by Saturday I will begin testing. My temps are staying up. First time that I have had three high temps in a row ( see how I am obsessing). Hoping it stays high or even gets higher. I have also been having low back pain and left side abdominal pain on and off all weekend. I was even a little nauseous this morning (It may have been from just being over hungry...the obsession continues). Anyway I am one of the few that has to work today (even worse it is a 10 hour day for me...the medical profession never sleeps). DH is in bed all nice and warm and I sit here writing to you contemplating when I am going to go dry my hair. Hope eveyone has a great day. Will be back later to catch up.

[cowgirl]

congrats suiej!!!
Polkadot:I am so sorry for you loss.

FF Question: On the calender what does it mean when turn green?
I think I will be Oing soon but will be out because DH has been gone for a week and won't be home till tuesday or wednesday.

Good luck to everyone trying to catch that egg.

[Jenzen01]

Just popping in.

AF has packed her bags, so it's time for some BDing. :)

Congrats to suiej!

Jen

[armadillo]

Congrats, suiej!!! H&H 9 months to you!!!

Polkadot, I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. *hugs*

I suspect that I O'd yesterday, because I had a gigantic temp jump between yesterday morning and this morning. Will have to see if my temp stays up over the next few days. One thing different about this cycle is that I've had spotting for the past few days...I know TCOYF says that O can cause a couple of days of spotting, but I've been spotting from Friday to Sunday. Will have to see if it continues today...

[Bellefior]

Okay I am highly upset about something I just found out re: my insurance.

I work for the Fed government and am covered by Blue Cross and Blue Shield. I figured since I am living and working in MA, MA mandates infertility coverage, and my plan is Blue Cross and Blue Shield of MA, IVF is covered.

Guess what? It isn't, or so I have been told, because its a Federal Plan and supposedly exempt from state mandates! they'll pay for the diagnostic tests, but nothing else (no IVF, no IUI, no meds)

I've been trying to find the exact text of the MA law on line. We've been discussing IVF, and I'm hoping we don't need it because it looks like I am ovulating but am wondering what the f*ck I have been paying all this money for insurance for!

[gymwidow]

Hi ladies. Happy Monday to all. I hope everyone who has the day off today is making the most of it!

Last night was rough for me. We were having dinner with some good friends and they announced that they are pregnant with their 2nd baby. We weren't even sure they would ever have another - our friend was so physically ill throughout her first pregnancy that she often has said she didn't think she could ever go through it again. So, with that and also the fact that their DD is only 18 months old, I was not expecting that news and it hit me like a ton of bricks. I kept it together till we got out of the restaurant and then cried a bit on the way home while DH held my hand and kept reassuring me that our turn will come soon. :(

Anyway, I had my CD4 bloodwork done today (since yesterday was a weekend) and am all set for another cycle. My doctor is upping my dosage of Clomid to 100mg to try and strengthen my O this month. DH and I decided yesterday that we are going to go ahead and do IUI this month. Honestly, I just don't see why we need to wait when it's a very minimally invasive procedure, is covered by my insurance, and hopefully will just serve to increase our chances of getting pg. We're not in a rush, and we've only been really trying for 2 months with the help of the drugs, but why wait, you know? This roller coaster of emotions every month is very taxing, and if we can make it end sooner rather than later, I want off! I'm glad my doc is supportive of it and that DH agreed so readily when I asked him to.

So, I go in next Thursday, CD14, for an u/s to check my follie growth and get my HCG trigger and then on Friday we'll do the IUI. In the meantime, we wait. The fun part. Hmph. :rolleyes:

polkadot, I am so sorry! We're cycle buddies this time, so hopefully we'll end up together with true BFPs that stick!

suiej, wow, congrats! H&H 9 months to you!

Hi to everyone else! :)

[jeant]

Got a BFN this morning. Only 10 DPO, so too early still, but this also means that the FPS I had 6DPO-8DPO really were that -- fake. Not over until AF shows, but I am still very sad right now.

[JayJay]

Temp stayed up still this morning. I've been really good about not testing. Hoping that I can keep from doing so. :rolleyes:

[polkadot]

MrsJackson- that is a very pretty chart....looking good...fingers crossed for you....

Michelle Rene- i have been stalking and you are looking good also...toes crossed for you....

as for me i think AF is finally trying to exit...it wasnt as bad as i thought...i had a lot more cramping than i usually do but that is to be expected...so as soon as Af is out the door...let the BDing begin...we are determined to get PG again...and Brian just keeps saying ** we ARE having a baby, we are just still working on the timeline** **swooning smilie inserted here**

have a great day ladies:)

[Baby Lust]

Cowgirl, The green day on your calendar is the same as the green boxes on your chart... estimated ovulation/fertile period.

[mimieliza]

11DPO, and a BFN. :(

It's still early, right? Plus, my alarm didn't go off this AM, so I didn't temp, so I have no idea if it's dropping or not.

If AF hasn't shown, I'll test again Wednesday.

[octoberkate]

Hey ladies! Hope everyone had a good weekend.

Congrats to SuieJ! YAY! Here's to a H&H Nine Months!

As for me, I still think my chart is whacked. FF is saying I o'd cd21, I think it was more likely cd 13, 14 or 15. Partly I think that because the temps between days 15-21 seem too high to be part of the standard pre-ovulatory lower temps. And partly I think the earlier O date is correct is because, before starting the pill and then after DS was born and AF came back but before I went back on the pill my cycle was always 28 or 29 days max. So if that stays the same (and I know it doesn't have to, this last time on the pill could have screwed up something) then O'ing on cd 14 or 15 only makes sense. Whatever.

The only reason this makes a difference is that there's a possibility (albeit slim) that we could have some success if I o'd on one of the earlier dates. Just in case, I POAS this morning. The control line came right up, nice and bright vibrant pink. I could also sort of see a second line, but it wasn't pink and strong - in fact, it was gray and looked more like a shadow, or like I could tell where the die underneath was located. Like if you get a white fabric wet and then you can sort of see the color or shape below it. Does that make sense? It certainly didn't look like a positive.

Well, we'll see what my temp does over the next few days. I do have two more tests in the house, so maybe I'll test tomorrow or Wednesday if my temp stays high.

[Jenzen01]

octoberkate - I think you Od around CD14 or 15. :)

[JayJay]

Thanks, Polkadot! I'm hoping that it stays that way! My temps are pretty steady, unlike I've ever seen. So, who knows what's going on. FF says AF is due tomorrow. Keep your fingers crossed!

[Deanna1018]

Well I have come to the conclusion that if I am not pregnant this cycle then my body is officially falling apart. I have tender breasts(pretty normal), back pain all day long (I never have back pain), left sided abdominal pain and abdominal cramping (this started tonight). Needless to say it have not been a good day. I am dpo7 and very very anxious to test but I am holding off till Saturday. I hope the pain/cramping improves soon. Only time will tell.

[JayJay]

Deanna1018- Your chart looks really good!

Well ladies no sign of AF yet, and last month my LP was 12 days. I'm not going to get my hopes up yet. But things are looking up.

[Deanna1018]

MrsJackson... Thanks, lets hope my temps continue to rise. Your chart looks really good too!!!!!

Hoping to see alot of bfp's this month!!!!!!

[Ilovemygeek]

Polkadot I love your DH's attitude!

Well, I decided that AF never really did arrive, it was just two days of heavy spotting *TMI ALERT* with no real red blood, followed by a week of light spotting. I don't know whether to be happy or sad about that. I have an appointment for next Monday with a nurse practictioner at my Dr.'s office. I will keep you ladies updated.

[kmmommy]

Rachel ~ The month before I got my BFP I had brown spotting for 8 days. My doctor figured I didn't O that month. Fingers crossed the same happens for you.

[Quartercentury]

Hello from Bangkok! We're wrapping up our whirlwind tour of south east asia and will be heading to China tomorrow, where we're hoping to get our "Made in China" baby...

Back to waiting to o.

[Deanna1018]

I am now at dpo8. The back pain is gone as well as the abdominal cramping. For some reason I am now thinking that I am out for the count this cycle...maybe it is just me not wanting to get too excited and then getting a bfn.

Anyway the abdominal cramping and back pain that I had all day were only slightly relieved by lying in the recliner last night. It wasn't until I got into bed and was lying completely flat that the pains I had been experiencing were entirely gone. My temp was still elevated this morning (98.4) and I still have tender breasts but no back pain, nausea or abdominal cramping...hence the reason why I think AF may be coming soon.

Ovulation this cycle was very painful which is usually not the case. My pre-o temps were pretty even which is also usually not the case which may account for the symptoms I experienced yesterday. Just a good old fashion out of the ordinary cycle.

Anyway only time will tell (this now seems to be my mantra). Have a good day ladies. Be back later to catch up.

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[gymwidow]

Good morning all. CD5 here and just waiting. I started 100mg of Clomid last night. AF is already gone = yay! One thing I like about these medicated cycles is that AF has been shorter and lighter than ever before. It's great! :D

polkadot, you have a great DH!

Rachel, I'm glad you have an appt to see someone soon. Cycles like that are so frustrating!

Hi to everyone else!!!!

[ellidew]

Hi Everyone! Long time no see! :)

threadmistresses, could you please take me off of "Taking a Charting Break/Temporarily TTA"


We are actively ttc again and are on 8 dpo and waiting to test. I'm trying not to obsess too much about it right now. My break was well worth while though and i have so far lost just over 30 lbs and still counting. (i have to lose another 40 more to be at a normal height/weight.

I am surprisingly calm about the whole thing, right now at least. I'm not very confident this cycle since it's our first cycle ttc since last summer/early fall. I'm trying not to make everything a symptom. I have sore bb's but checked a chart from way back when and i started with sore bb's really early that cycle. I have 2 "symptoms" that i don't recall having before but could just have been i wasn't paying attention. 1 is gassy. I burp 1000 times a day! The other is cramping. Last night i had cramping like i get right before af. It's too early for af though. I am chalking it up to gas :D Hopefully we get a BFP in the next 6 months! That would make me happy. The let downs are draining and stressful! So back to the grind. Someone smack me if i start to obsess too much! TIA. lol.

dh and i are both taking ttc a little more seriously this time and have made some life changes. I found out dh was drinking up to 6 cups of coffee a day and 2 mountain dews. I was like... "honey, your sperm are drunk and they don't know which way to go! They are probably just running into each other and swimming backwards!" So he's cut it down to 3 cups of coffee a day and maybe a soda. My diet is 100% better because of my diet and i've stopped taking my medications (allergy and psoriasis) regularly. Now i only take them when i am desperate and i have switched to caffeine free soda of which i only have 1 maybe 2 a day. I get at least 10-12 glasses of water in a day now too. Hopefully those few changes make the difference. I am going to order pre-seed for our next cycle but i don't want to jinx it so i am waiting to order until we get a bfn. ;)

Deanna1018- Looks like we are right smack dab at the same place. When are you going to test? I think i'm going to test on 10 dpo and then 12 (if i have to ;) )

[lawgirl4]

hi everybody :)

quartercentury - hope you're having a great trip! our trip to india was fantastic - and after all that discussion, we wound up not taking the anti-malarials altogether... we felt it was okay to risk it. hope you're staying healthy and have fun in China!! ;)

Rachel - I hear you on the frustration. I hope that your Dr's appt brings you some reassurance!

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girls, I need a little reassuring/cheering up. I am on CD 24 and still no O - though I had a slight temp increase today that could be promising, as long as it continues to rise. I totally broke down crying this morning after I took my temperature and didn't see a spike - as you can all see from my chart, DH and I have been BDing every night and I just feel like it's all a waste if I don't ovulate. DH was great and supportive, and made the point of noting that I seem very "hormonal" to him (I also had a bit of a sad fit yesterday), and I agree with his assessment - so maybe I am on the verge of O-ing. It's so hard to stay positive, though!

I'm also looking at my past charts and noticing that my O-dates keep on getting later and later in my cycles (though I have incomplete data from last cycle). that, and the fact that I have shorter LPs, really disturbs me. I've started taking Red Raspberry Leaf and Vitex (Chasteberry) supplements, which are both supposed to help with ovulation and LP lengthening - but I just feel *so* discouraged.

I made a Dr's appt for February 9th so that I can show her my charts and see if she recommends anything (of course I am secretly hoping that by 2/9 I will have ovulated and would actually be PG, but I know that's delusional! but a girl can dream, no? :) )

[CTs_Punkin]

**delurking**

Lawgirl Try not to get too discouraged (I know this is not easy to do) - but looking at your charts, you have O'd in the past at CD24 and as late as CD36 - so hang in there. BD every other day for a couple days, it might help you not feel so frustrated. I know it's tough - Heck, I haven't o'd on my own since April - so trust me... every cycle when you have great CM and then no O is really hard to look at month after month. I went to the DRs and found out that I have a higher than normal FSH number - which could be contributing to my lack of O.... So if you do "have" to go to the dr's in Feb - bring your charts and tell him/her your concerns about your late O date. They may be able to do some blood work and tell you what's going on...
Hugs though - I know how tough it is to be in limbo :)

Ellidew Congrats for being "back in the game" - That is great news on your weight loss & your hubby trying to cut back his coffee intake. I'm hoping you get a BFP soon!

Gymwidow Good luck w/ the Clomid! Hope you get your BFP this month.

I have my CD 3 bloodwork to do tomorrow - which will double check my previous FSH numbers and to do some other testing. I'll also be doing the Clomid Challenge on CD5-9. Hoping this month gives us enough info to make a plan on what to do next!

[JayJay]

I got the usual-right-before-AF-headache today. And my temp dropped a little this morning. I don't know if it dropped enough to really call it a drop though. (take a peek if you wanna!)

I hope I can keep my optomistic outlook for the next day or so. :rolleyes:

[bunnybeth]

Rejoining...

Bunnybeth
Me: Bethany (27)
DH: Elon (28)
Married since: 6/23/02
TTC since: 1/06
Charting since: 3/02
Known issues/test results: miscarriage at 12w1d (12/7/05)
Chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e5de5
Current status: waiting to o

Currently on CD6, and I tend to O a bit on the late side (CD16-20) so it may be a little while before anything interesting happens. My last cycle was really wonky, but I think it was annovulatory because my body wasn't ready to be pregnant again so soon, since I was pretty far along when I m/c. Hopefully, everything is more normal now.

[CTs_Punkin]

Bunnybeth - I'm sorry for your loss.... Here's wishing you a sticky BFP very soon.

[jeant]

lawgirl Sorry to hear about the late O! That must be really frustrating! I agree with the every other day advice. And just FYI: I read that especially in the first cycle you take it, Vitex can cause you to O late. This happened to me: my first cycle on it I O'ed more than a week late for no apparent reason (for once, I wasn't stressed!) I actually stopped taking it because I thought it was messing with my cycles too much.

bunnybeth Best of luck to you. I am sad to hear your story. You are a very strong woman.

Well ladies, my hopes are officially up, despite the BFN yesterday at 10DPO. Today, 11DPO, my temp was higher than it has ever been. If you squint, my chart might even be triphasic.

[jjsanner]

Hi ladies. We had our first RE appointment yesterday. We met with the nurse practicioner and went over all the tests that we'll be doing. As I suspected, I missed the CD3 bloodwork this cycle. But the good news is that they got me in for the HSG today at 1:30PM so that the bloodwork will be the last test, and we're on target to have a plan for next cycle.

Those that have had HSG's, what should I expect? Is it really painful? I'm a nervous wreck and I didn't sleep a whole lot last night. Just waiting and hoping to get it over with as soon as possible. I'm supposed to come back here to work, so hopefully I won't be feeling too terrible.

[Jenzen01]

Hi ladies,

Some nice lookin' charts out there.

bunnybeth - Here's hoping for a short stay. :)

As for me, no temp today because DH got up at 3:45 to use the bathroom. I temped because I thought it was later ... my temp was 96.8 ... holy lowness. Then, DS got up at 5 or something crying, and I went upstairs to soothe him. Came back down and feel asleep, temped again at 6 when I woke up, and my temp was 97.7. So, because my sleep was so screwy last night, I'm not recording anything today. Whew, long story ... I haven't ovulated yet, anyway, so it doesn't matter.

Getting ready for a BDfest. Sort of hard to do when DH and I are both so tired at night. After DS goes to bed, we both usually fall asleep on the couch. :rolleyes:

Jen

[octoberkate]

Welcome bunnybeth! Like everyone else has already said, here's hoping that your stay is short.

Well, my temp dipped a little this morning but is still higher than my pre-o temps. I'm trying to decide if I should test tomorrow. If I o'd where I think I did (day 13, 14, or 15) either AF should arrive or I should get a positive (not great BD timing, but possible). If I o'd when FF thinks I did, around cd21, then it would just be a total waste of a test. We'll see. I'm not having any noticeable FPS, but who knows. The only symptoms I remember from early on before were incredible naseau and car sickness. Frankly, I'm hoping to avoid those this time around so I'm not too upset to not be feeling them regardless of what that might mean.

I guess I'll just see what my temp does tomorrow.

I'm thinking good thoughts for all of you!

[mimieliza]

:(

Big temp drop today. And I'm crampy.


Here's what happened this cycle: DH and I realized how much we want a baby. I think at the beginning, we were a little nervous - like it would be okay if it didn't happen right away because we could use some extra time to prepare. Well, we're prepared! We're ready!

So next month we're going to work extra hard at TTC. ;)


lawgirl - I o'd on CD25 - I know what you mean about waiting to O. It's so frustrating. I'm bummed about having to play the waiting game again now. I've been taking vitex, so I'm hoping that my O date will either start coming earlier, or at least come around the same time.

[Charting is Knowledge]

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Welcome to bunnybeth!

[Sare79]

I know exactly how you ladies feel about waiting to O and waiting so long. My last two o dates weren't until CD 28 and CD 23 the last two cycles. It feels like so much longer to me.

My AF this month was super short again- does anyone know if that is an indicator of anything different? Last month was pretty short and heavy and this month really short and pretty light comparatively.

Gee, only 20 more days til O :rolleyes:

[Deanna1018]

Polkadot …your DH is awesome!

Ellidew…I guess we are at the exact same place. I am hoping to have enough will power not to test until dpo12. My lp’s are typically 12 days. So if AF hasn’t shown up by then out comes the hpt’s. Congrats on your weight loss. I recently lost 15 lbs. I definitely noticed how much better my body functioned after the weight loss.

MrsJackson..your temp didn’t drop a lot from what I can see. You are still in the game! Try to stay positive.

Sare79…I usually find that with each cycle I alternate from a heavy AF to light AF. If I am not pregnant then I am in for a doosey (spelling ?) of a AF this cycle…yipeee…NOT!!!

Mimieliza…here’s to a lot of BD’ing!!!!! Have fun!!

Octoberkate…when it comes to POAS I am usually the first to do it…I am an addict but I am trying to wait till dpo12 to see if AF shows up. Because there is some confusion on when your o date was I would test tomorrow just to see. If it is bfn then hold off on testing until later in your cycle. I know …easier said then done.

Jenzen01…have fun with your BD fest!!!!!

JJsanner….That is great about getting in right away for the HSG. I have never had one so I am no help there but good luck.

Jeant…that is great news about the rise in temp. It’s looking good. Keeping my fingers crossed for a bfp for you and DH.

Not much going on here. A little under the weather today. I had a little nausea this morning ..not as much as yesterday. A little bit of back pain throughout the day...again not as much as yesterday. I did have the abdominal cramping a little more often today though. It is just a wait and see game.
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[lawgirl4]

welcome, bunnybeth! so sorry to hear about your loss - I hope that the future brings nothing but happiness on the TTC front. :)

jeant - very interesting about your Vitex experience. Upon further research, I think I am going to try 50-100mg of vitamin B-6 - I've read a lot of positive things about it lengthening the LP. And interestingly, I had been taking "Fertility Blend" at the end of last year - I wonder if the Vitex in that had something to do with delaying ovulation...I'll hold off on the Vitex for now.

jjsanner - hope the HSG went well!

jenzen - I hate being woken up when I need to temp! that can be so frustrating. have fun with the BD fest!! :)

octoberkate - fingers crossed for a temp rise tomorrow... I am hoping for one myself as well!

mimieliza - glad you can empathize. if you read my response to jeant, you'll see I am going to hold off on the Vitex for now - I'm going with vitamin B6 to lengthen the LP instead.

sare79 - these late O-dates are really tough. I am definitely going to ask my doctor about it when I see her in february. hang in there!

deanna1018 - hang in there! the waiting is crazy, no?

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so this is interesting... I did an OPK tonight and my line was very faint. towards the end of last week I had a dark line on my OPKs - though never darker than the reference line. So I am wondering if maybe I have in fact ovulated, and my temps have been screwy. my sunday morning temp was discarded as we slept in a freezing cold room and I woke up several times in the night (never had more than 2 hrs consecutive) and yesterday's temp was also iffy as I woke up, dozed for about an hour, and then temped. The majority of my temps this month were taken at weird times, with bad sleeping patterns due to post-India-trip jet lag - so in reality, I am not sure which temps were actually reliable. So I am feeling a bit more positive today. If I have a higher temp tomorrow I will feel much better.... in addition, my cervix was noticeably wetter, softer, and higher towards the end of last week than it was today - and while my CM is in the wet/creamy category, it is definitely less wet than last week. interesting!

[polkadot]

hi girls- i really need to catch back up with everyone..then i will do proper replies....i was doing good today until i got an email from Babycenter .com telling me about my baby at 5 weeks....that was a bummer...but i unsubcribed to it so hopefully i wont have to get those anymore....:(

Other than that I am doing ok...my fam and friends have been really supportive...Af is pretty much gone...i have a little spotting left but thats it...so forward march....on to operation polkadot....take two :)

[jeant]

lawgirl Yep, Fertility Blend is what I was on too (vitex is one of the ingredients). Kinda messed things up -- weird, since it was supposed to help.

I have also tried B6, which didn't work for me -- no change in my LP. But I think it's worked for other women. I tried natural progesterone cream too, which also had no effect.

My doc said that there isn't agreement about short LPs -- a lot of docs think that as long as it's over 9 or 10 days, there's no problem. And I've noticed that a lot of women on these boards with short LPs end up pg. before long.

[jeant]

lawgirl Question for you -- have you ever asked a doc about your LP spotting, or found any good info other places? I have the same thing (spotting for several days before AF comes), and I don't know what causes it. I asked a OB GYN nurse once, but she totally blew me off (long story I posted on about a month ago; suffice to say I will never go to her again!). I have also had no luck finding anything about it in books, online, etc. I really wish I knew what caused it and what can be done about it.

jjsanner How did the HSG go?

[Bellefior]

I'm going to be buying some OPKs this month or next. Any suggestions which would be best?

Threadmistress you can move me to I think I O'ed. FF is calling my O at day 19, but I think it might have been earlier..

[lawgirl4]

jeant - I will ask my dr about the pre-AF spotting when I have my appt in february. here's my guess, though - I think it's probably due to low progesterone levels. I would guess that the body is producing progesterone, but not enough to keep the uterine lining sustained, so the drop in progesterone causes spotting (but not full-on AF, since the levels are probably high enough to prevent AF, but low enough to start the lining to begin to shed. obviously, I am not a doctor and I know very little about all this, but it's my hunch!

[Charting is Knowledge]

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[MichelleRenee]

Sare79, I have no idea about your AF. I have tried researching that since mine sometimes varies in length and how heavy it is. My doctor told me that I just should be happy when it is short and light and only be concerned if it lasts more than 8 days.

Deanna1018, I'm hoping those are all good signs for you. Who knew we'd one day wish to feel crappy?

lawgirl4, I think I've read that an OPK can look almost positive, or even BE positive and you still don't O until you have a temp rise. I think this is because your body can gear up to O, releasing the hormones that make an OPK + and then not O after all, due to stress or whatever. A trip to India sounds like it could be stressful. I'd keep BDing until you get that shift!

polkadot, I hope this is going to be your cycle! I'm glad everyone has been supportive for you.

jeant, I'm sorry you've been having LP troubles. Hang in there!

Bellefior, I bought the Target brand ones. There were 7 in the box for $12.99. (I think) I only ended up using 3 of them though, so they will last more than one cycle. Some people buy a bunch online really cheap, but I don't knwo where. Congrats on Oing!

I am doing OK today. I am 10dpo and super, super anxious. Anyone who reads my journals knows that I am kinda flooded with FPS right now. My boobs are pretty swollen (which is normal for me, although never this big) and really, really sore. Usually my nipples get very tender and sometimes the muscles around my boobs, but this month they are sore, sore, sore. I've been eating a ton and having cravings for specific things, and then gagging after a few bites. That could just be because of my acid reflux, but I haven't had any other AR symptoms. I'm also very tired today, but I would be lying if I said that was new for me. It is pretty normal for me to take a mid-day nap so I don't really consider that an FPS.

My chart is looking good. Everyone seems to be in agreement that tomorrow's temp is going t