2006 Still At It!

[SAI Ladies]

This thread is for people who have been TTC for an extended period of time (6 months or more) and/or for those with known/diagnosed infertility issues. The and/or is the important statement here. ;) We welcome you to join whether you're trying to conceive for the first time, already have children, have suffered miscarriages, you're seeking treatment or not.

For non-members:
We always welcome supporters and cheerleaders! Please understand that this is our own safe place to discuss infertility and our feelings about it, and keep your comments supportive and on-topic. Thanks!

Table of Contents for Page 1:
Post 1: Members (part I)
Post 2: Members (part II)
Post 3: Members who are expecting
Post 4: Members' BABIES! (part I)
Post 5: Resources (including HPT Sensitivity Comparison)
Post 6: Links to old threads, recent congrats & condolences


Your current threadmistress is Cts_Punkin - please try post all updates in red so that they're easier to see!

Still At It...Membershttp://www.webmuseum.com/blove/ttc.gif
in alphabetical order by user name


Alioop12345
TTC #2 since 5/05
On: Estradiol, Gonal F, HcG, Viagra supps and Progesterone supps

Asha
both of us are 28
married 8/16/03
off bcp 01/04
first started ttc 7/04
tests done - dh had semen analysis and everything is ok on his end, we are going to wait one or two more cycles before i go for testing
charting for three months with no clear indication of ovulation
2/06 - transvaginal and transabdominal ultrasounds - no cysts
3/06 - hsg - clear tubes but a heart shaped uterus (uterine anamoly)


Bellefior
Me – 37
DH - 36
Married – 5.31.03
Charting – 5/05
Off BCP since 5/05
Seeing OBGYN soon for TTC issues - likely moving on to an RE

Bumble
Me – 30
DH - 33
Married – 8.31.03
Charting – 1.05
TTC – 4.05
Off BCP – years
m/c in June 05 @ 8wks
Obstacles to overcome: impatient-ness
RE visit 1.06, diagnosed with PCOS
SA 1.06, count looks good
HSG 2.06, tubes clear

Cath
Me: Catherine, 32
DH: 34
Married: 11/01
TTC: 11/03
Diagnosed w/PCOS in July 2004
Clomid didn't work, now Follistim
3 failed IUIs
1 chemical pregnancy a month we were taking a break(10/05)

CTs_Punkin
Me - MMT (33)
DH - CT (37)
Married - 11/2004
Charting - 1/2005
TTC - 1/2005
Off BCP - 11/2004
Issues: HSG results - left tube blocked, RE looking at films to see if Lap needs to be done
DH SA level OK - retaking test at RE
Dec 05 - 50mg Clomid - good follicle/No O
Jan 06 - RE appt - CD3 bloodwork FSH 9.5 (no clomid challenge due to cyst)
Mar 06 - Clomid Challenge - CD10 FSH 14.5
April 06 - Meeting w/ RE to discuss options


DaniML
Me: Daniela - 29
DH: Ross - 36
Married: 04/13/03
TTC: 06/04
11/04: Cervical Ectopic (2 shots of methotrexate to terminate)
TTC again: 01/05
11/05: Dx: Borderline diabetis (weight related) & PCOS, Metformin (850 mg twice a day, but changing to 500 mg twice, and then later 3 times, a day because they are making me sick)

Elenna
Me: 31
DH: 33
Married: 9/11/04
Off BCP since 7/04
TTC w/ Charting since 11/04, SWH for 4-5 months in the middle of that time
Chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/4b883
Known issues: S/A results are abnormal 9% morphology and low (24%) motility. Family history of progesterone problems.
HSG: normal and all clear.

gator97
Me: Kristen (30)
DH: Peter (30)
Married since: 11/06/04
Off BCP since: 12/04
TTC since: 2/05
Known issues/test results:
8/05 laparoscopy: moderate-severe endometriosis
9/05 - Chem PG
1/06- HSG clear
1/06- DH SA normal


graciebella
Me: 34
DH: 30
Married 10/04
TTC since 10/04 with a break 3/05 to 10/05
Clomid 50 mg 10/05
Known issues - 1 blocked tube, irregular ovulation
Hysteroscopy/Uterine Polypectomy 6/05
previous pregnacy no issues 3/92

Gymwidow
ME: 29
DH: 29
Married since: 6/03
Off BCP since: 2/05
Charting since: 2/05
TTC since: 7/05
Known issues: PCOS diagnosed 9/05, HSG clear 10/05, SA normal 11/05
Treatment: 11/05: 50 mg Clomid = 1 good follie, late O ~CD20, short LP
12/05: 50 mg Clomid = 1 good follie, HCG trigger, O on CD 17
1/06: 100 mg Clomid = 2 good follies, HCG trigger, O/IUI on CD15
2/06: 100 mg Clomid = 2 good follies, HCG trigger, O/IUI on CD14


jjsanner
Me - Jen (31)
DH - Eric (33)
Married - 4/03
DS - Elijah 2/04
Charting - 10/2004
TTC #2 - 4/2005
Testing Results: 12/05 HSG clear, 12/05 SA normal, 1/05 Bloodwork normal
11/05: Clomid 50mg/Met combo - failed
12/05: Clomid 100mg/Met combo - failed
1/06: Non-medicated cycle, + HPT, miscarried at 4 weeks
2/06: Taking the month off, new RE, will be starting Clomid 100mg next cycle


jlp
Me: 31
DH: 40
Married: 01/04
TTC: since 07/04
Off BCP: since 03/04
Diagnosed with PCOS: 10/04
Irregular cycles, multiple cysts
04/05: Clomid 150mg - small follies/O on CD21 - failed
05/05: Clomid 200mg - 3 large follies/HCG shot on CD 18 - failed
06/05: Clomid 200mg - 2 medium follies/repeat U/S - failed
07/05: Clomid 200mg - HPT + CD19 - failed
08/05: Took the month off
09/05 / 10/05: 1st RE appt. - diagnosed Insulin Resistant - Metformin 1500mg - AF arrived CD85
11/05: Metformin 1500mg - Femara 2.5mg - low dose hcg therapy, and trigger CD15 - failed
12/05: Metformin 1500mg - Femara 5mg - 2 17mm follies, and multiple small to medium - trigger CD 14 - failed
01/06: Metformin 1500mg - Femara 2.5mg - 75 units Repronex CD7-11 - U/S CD12 (January 24th)


julesp313
Me: 34
DH: 39
Married: March 2003
Charting: September 2003
TTC: December 2004
Issues: None known
BFP - 12/2005
M/C - 12/05 @ 6w

Katmg
Me: 26
DH: 30
Married: 11/08/03
Off BCP since: 5/04
Charting since: 8/04
TTC w/ Charting since: 1/05 (took a break when I started a new job) 05/05
Chart:
Issues:Male factor/low sperm count/morphology.
Jan 2006 - BFP!
M/C - 02/06
Taking a Break until ~May
Kazata
Me: 32
DH: 32
Charting and off BCP since March '04
TTC since July '04
Issues: Went to the ER twice with ovarian cysts. Cycles on the short side.
Testing: RE appt. on Jan. 11, 2006. Scheduled ultrasounds to verify ovulation. DH to do SA. If all ok, HSG next cycle.


kischer
kisch
WC name- kisch
kischer=ME (31)
hubby=DH (31)
Married- 10/6/01
TTC- 5/02
HSG- tubes clear
SA- normal
Off BCP- of course
M/C's - 7/04 & 12/04
RE - since 9/04-
Clomid - 7 cycles, 2 OBGYN, 5 RE, I think
HCG - 2 cycles
Acupuncture - yes- 4 cycles
back at the RE - 10/05
Letrozol/Femara - 10/05

knoelani
Me: K / 29
DH: B / 33
TTC: 12-2001
Dx: Late ovulation, PCO w/ 80% of symptoms of PCOS, SA issues
1-05: 50 mg Clomid
1-28-5: HSG, all clear
2-05: 100mg Clomid, 1500 mg Metformin
3-05: 100 mg Clomid, 1500 mg Metformin
4-05- DH SA poor results, clomid break, still taking 1500 mg Met
5-6-5: DH SA & urologist appointment: A okay
6-16-05: 1st RE appointment
7-05: 100mg Clomid
8-05: 150mg Clomid, 1st IUI - Failed
9-05: 150mg Clomid, 2nd IUI - Failed
10-05 to end of year: Break from all things medical
1-06: 150mg clomid, 3rd IUI
3-2006: Lap~ three cysts removed, tube unblocked
4-2006: Injectable / 2 IUI cycle

[SAI Ladies]

Members (continued)

La_bride_2004
me: 32
DH: 36
TTC since Feb 04
HSG, all tests normal
Dx: male factor, poor SCSA
CC1, 3 IUI's- all BFN
IVF #1 Dec 04: OHSS/biochem/m/c
FET#1 June 05: biochem/m/c
Aug 2005- varicocele repair surgery for DH
Status: waiting to TTC in 6 months or whenever we get a good SCSA!
Chem pregnancy # 3, 11/05

Lucy Van Pelt
Me: Ginger - 35
DH: Brad - 30
TTC: 3/04
Dx: PCOS 1/05 (no reg periods since I started menstruating at age 12 - usually 6-8 months apart)
4/05: HSG - all clear, SA - perfect (of course, as DH put it, "even my sperm are over achievers")
5/05: 50 mg Clomid - nothing
6/05: 100mg Clomid - ovulated, but had horrid migraines
7/05: Femara
8/05: BFP
9/05: m/c at 6 weeks
10/05: Femara
11/05 BFP
11/05 m/c at 6 weeks
12/05 Metformin


Marteneym
Me: 23
DH: 27
Married since: 10/4/03
Off BCP since: 9/04
SWH since: 10/04
TTC since: 12/04
Fertility Blend cycles 4,5,6
Known issues: Delayed Ovulation, SA issues(improving), Varicocele possible
9/05 Clomid 50mg
9/9 FSH and Rubella- NORMAL
9/12 SA ABNORMAL-
count 30mil /Motility 30%
10/05 Clomid 100mg
11/05 Chlomid 100mg
12/12 IUI #1- failed
count 30mil/ Motility 70%
12/05 Chlomid 100mg
1/06 Chlomid 100mg
2/10/06 IUI #2- failed
count 52mil /Motility 85%


Mobox
Me: 35
DH: 35
Married 6/04
TTC since 4/05
HSG Clear 1/06
Clomid 50 mg 1/06


MrsSmith
Me: 25
DH: 26
Married: 3/2003
Issues: PCOS, random cycle lengths and no ovulation
TTC: we never officially started, but we've never prevented either
RE visit: 6/2005 - PCOS, suggested Provera and Clomid
Clomid 100mg in OCt 2005

Patience
Me: 33
DH: 34
Married: 10/03
TTC: 12/04 (with charting)
Issue: Anovulatory cycles or very weak ovulation, delayed ovulation
Treatment: Acupuncture and Chinese herbs
3/06 Clomid (50 mg) with acupuncture

pocket
Me: Pocket, 33
DH: Pita, 30
Married: 8/23/03
TTC: Begin Clomid 50mg August
Issues: PCOS, Hypothyroid

Polkadot
Me - Lauren 26
DH - Brian 27
Married - 11/20/2004
Charting - 5/2005
TTC - 5/2005
Off BCP - 5/2005
Issues - Chem Preg 1/06


silentbunny
Me: Kirsten (35)
DH: Sean (32)
Married since: 05/22/04
Off BCP since: 02/05
TTC since: Officiclly since 04/05
Known issues/test results:
Long, crazy irregular cycles. Diagnosed with mild PCOS this summer. I ovulate, I just take an incredibly long time to do so.
Was on Metformin all this summer, which did nothing but make me nauseated.
09/25/05 -- first cycle on Clomid (50 mg) O'd on day 28
11/08/05 -- Clomid (100 mg) plus a steroid...dexamethazone(?)
12/09/05 -- BFP!
12/31/05 -- miscarried at 7 w, 4 d

skb
me: 31
dh: 33
10/04: TTC
03/05: hormone levels, ultrasound, SA normal
11/05: HSG uterine abnormality
12/05: MRI Dx septate uterus
01/06: Septate resection
02/06: HSG uterine cavity normal


suzfuzsunflower
Me: 24
DH: 24
Married: 08/09/2003
TTC: March 2005
Charting: March 2005
Known Issues: PCOS
10/05 - HSG shows partially blocked right tube
11/05 - 50mg clomid
01/06 - 100mg clomid
RE recommends injectables


Suzlywoozly
Me: Sue/28 DH: Jeff/32
Married: 6/15/02
TTC: 10/02
10/02: 1st Lap-Found ovarian cysts and endo
4/04: Started Progesterone supplements and 25 mg clomid
8/04: 50mg clomid - Had no follicles
9/04: 100mg clomid - Had 2 follicles and 1st failed IUI
10/04: 100mg clomid - Had 1 follicle and 2nd failed IUI
11/04: No clomid due to 2 ovarian cysts. Started Metformin 1500mg/day
12/04: No clomid due to "large mass" and ovarian cyst on left ovary.
Surgery the second week of January.
m/c 6/05
IVF 8/05-9/05
9/05 IVF cycle #1: BFN
10/05-11/05 IVF cycle #2:Waiting to do a FET
11/05 FET #1-transfered two blasts; BFN
01/06- Waiting around for a miracle


Tandis
Me - 29 (30 in July)
DH - 31
Married- 4/26/03
TTC- 5/04
HSG- 9/04 tube clear
SA - 2/05 normal
Endometrial biopsy - 2/05 normal
RE - 3/05
IUI #1 - 5/05 50mg Clomid, trigger shot, failed
Laparoscopy - 5/05
IUI #2 - 7/05 50 mg Clomid, trigger shot, failed
IUI #3 - 8/05 50 mg Clomid, trigger shot, failed
Acupuncture - 11/05-1/06 (acupuncturist broke both of her hands, so I'm waiting for her to resume work) probably will go back in June 06
Known issues: one fallopian tube, one ovary (left side). Severe scar tissue, which RE partially removed in May
Currently trying: self massage, castor oil wraps, organic/natural foods, no dairy/cold foods (per acu. instructions)


TazLuv
Me – 29
DH - 29
Married – 7-13-02
Charting – was, but have given up on that
TTC – since June '05
Off BCP – 6/05
Issues: annovulatory cycles
Clomid 50mg 1/29 - ovulated per progesterone test
Currently on Clomid 50mg cycle 2


Thea
Me=Thea 29
DH = Craig, 36
TTC since July 2004
Off BCP May 2004
HSG left tube blocked, tubal cath opened tube
Clomid challenge test, other bloodwork normal
SA (X3) low normal morphology %, very high sperm count
Will begin with 3-4 cycles IUI in January 06 then reevaluate


thedoorchick (jasonsbride on the WC)
Me: Emily (35)
DH: Jason (31)
Married: 1/19/02
TTC: 11/02 to 3/03, then 12/04 (took a hiatus due to jobs, etc).
Charting: 7/02
SA: High count and motility, low morphology (1%)
M/C: 5/03, 3/05, 4/05
9/05 - 100mg Clomid, failed IUI
12/05 - 100mg Clomid, failed IUI
2/06 - Femara and Repronex, failed IUI
3/06 - Injectables (Menopur), failed IUI


tigerest
Me-28
DH-29
Married 7/6/02
Off BCP 7/03 (started charting 11/03)
10/04 - DH's SA Normal
1/14/05 -Laparoscopy and Chromotubation=Endo removed/Both tubes blocked
4/15/05 - Laparoscopy #2 a success! Both tubes surgically repaired.
12/22/05 - HSG Both Tubes Blocked Again
Starting IVF January


Wonderousglance
Me: 27
DH: 31
TTC since 1/02 with many breaks in between
Endometriosis diagnosed by laparoscopy in March 05
Just started seeing RE and in the process of getting all the diagnostic tests done

*~*~*~BABYDUST*~*~*

[SAI Ladies]

Taking a Break

hangin'in
Me: Jen (39)
DH: Ron (27)
Married: 10-03
TTC: 10-03
Dx: High FSH in May 04 (13.25) Given Donor Egg speech by RE. FSH retested in February, numbers came back in normal range. Did 1 month of ccupuncture in March.
IUI 2/05, failed
IUI 4/30/05, 2failed
IUI 6/05 failed
the Dr. really only recommends Donor Eggs at this time, and DH and I aren't ready to do that.

la_bride_2004
me: 32
DH: 36
TTC since Feb 04
HSG, all tests normal
Dx: male factor, poor SCSA
CC1, 3 IUI's- all BFN
IVF #1 Dec 04: OHSS/biochem/m/c
FET#1 June 05: biochem/m/c
Aug 2005- varicocele repair surgery for DH
Status: waiting to TTC in 6 months or whenever we get a good SCSA!

Moving on to adoption
Karlatta
Me: Karla, 25
DH: Scott, 26
Married: June 2002
TTC: July 2003
PCOS, Endometriosis, Only One Tube
11/04 - 1st IUI, Pregnant!
Miscarriage 1/05
05/05 - 2nd IUI, Failed
10/05 - 3rd IUI, Failed
Moving on to Adoption

[SAI Ladies]

http://home.hot.rr.com/lizandrob/smilie_file/smilie_preggo1.gifMEMBERS EXPECTING:
in order by due date and color coded by sex where known


April 2006

Kopper
Me: Katie (26)
DH: John (28)
Married: 9/21/02
TTC: 7/04
Charting: 03/04
6/05 3rd day BW normal
6/05 HSG all clear
6/05 SA normal count and motility, low morphology
Starting IUI next cycle
FF Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/9e5e6)
PREGNANT 7/05!!!!
Due 4/6/2006

amygrrl
me: amy (35)
dh: dan (33)
dd: ~avery elizabeth~ born still on June 3, 2005 at 27 wks from possible
cord accident (we love you, baby girl!)
frozen embries: 3 on ice from our round with Avery
TTC since: March 2003
Treatments: 6 failed rounds of Clomid. 1 successful IVF producing
Avery
PREGNANT 8/5/05!!!! our miracle baby!
EDD: 4/18/2006

jrsygirl
Me: Holly (31)
DH: Brian (32)
Married:September 2002
TTC: 9/04
M/C: 12/04
7/05 injectibles and IUI
PREGNANT 8/18/05!!!!
EDD 4/28/2006

Scooter
Me: 29, DH: 32
married: 8/01
m/c 8/02 at 5.5weeks
TTC since 4/03, charting since 9/02
Unexplained IF, uterine polyps removed 6/04
8/04 failed 50mg clomid cycle
10/04 & 11/04 failed clomid 100mg & progesterone
1/05 new RE, suspects immunological issues, began baby aspirin and Folgard
2 more cycles clomid (100mg) + IUI = failed
started accupuncture
2 cycles letrozole (2.5mg) +IUI + progesterone = failed
7/05 bravelle (1.5 amps) + IUI + progesterone = success!
FF Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18494)
PREGNANT 8/18/05!!!!
EDD 4/29/2006

May 2006

catJennifer
Me: Jennifer (29)
DH: 30
Married: 10/26/02
TTC: 4/04
Charting: 10/04
Stats: PCOS, elevated prolactin
Meds: Dostinex, Metformin XR 2000mg
5/04: SA normal
10/04: HSG normal
10/04, 11/04, 12/04: 50 mg Clomid
3/05: 100 mg Clomid + IUI
4/05: Femara
8/05: Follistim, trigger, progesterone
PREGNANT 9/6/05!!!!
EDD: 5/16/06

June 2006

Baby Lust
Me: Amanda (23)
DH: Shane (27)
Married: 10/19/02
TTC: 3/04
Charting: 6/04
SA: High count, low motility
Clomid: 50mg April, May ; 100mg June, September
Chemical Pregnancy: June
BFP: 9/30/05 after 100 mg Clomid, Round 2
FF Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Shanes_Angel)

bottleored
Me: Caroline (38)
DH: Paul (42)
Married: 10.03
TTC: 1.04
Charting: 3.04
Uterine Polyp: 5.04 (D&C, hysteroscopy)
SA normal, b/w normal
9.04 - 5.05: 6 rounds Clomid
10.04: HSG - left tube blocked
1.05: Tubal recanalization - left tube unblocked!
1.05, 2.05: very low HCG results, discovered antibody issue
6.05, 8.05: injectibles (and low dose HCG), blood thinner, progesterone
BFP 8.29.05 m/c 9/05
9.05: injectibles
FF Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/44b0a)


ds2003
Me: 27
DH: 31
Married since: 11/08/03
Off BCP: 12/03
TTC since: 6/04
Charting since: 7/04
Known issues: dx PCOS 7/04, annovulatory
Test results: DH's SA-normal; HSG 1/14/05-normal;
-->Ovarian Drilling 5/20/05- I'm finally ovulating
3 failed Clomid cycles before Ovarian Drilling (50, 100, 150 mg)
Meds: Currently taking 1500mg Metformin and 5mg Femara/letrazole
BFP October 2005!
FF Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ds2003)

July 2006
ShelbyMay
Me: 25
DH: 27
Married: 05/17/2003
TTC: 2/05
Charting: 9/04
Known Issues: Possible semen allergy; antibodies could be inhibiting
sperm

klav
Married: 10/03
TTC: since 1/04
Off BCP: since 1/03
MC: 11/04
regular cycles: about 28 days but have been fulcuatio sence MC in Nov
Laperoscapie: 02/03?? could not find anything causing pelvic pain
HSG:7/05 thought there might be a blocked tube but to know they would have to do another Lap. not interested because they said everything was fine before??with the first Lap.
All Blood work done for IUI: 6/05
06/05: Clomid 50mg , Estrodil and progesterone - failed
010/05: Clomid 100mg, Estrodil and progesterone will only be one month. Oct
Will begin IUI class in Nov
Currently: Waiting to O at the present time
BFP: 10/30/05
EDD: 7/10/06
Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/21291)

August 2006
Jennylou
Me: Jenny
DH: Sean
Married: 9/20/03
PCOS
Forever in our hearts, DS Andrew Wyatt 5/20-5/22/05
TTC #2 with clomid and metformin
July 2005 - 50 mg - BFN - 9 day LP
August 2005 - 50 mg - BFN - 13 day LP, spot arrived 11 dpo
September 2005 - 100 mg - BFN - 12 day LP, spot arrived 11 dpo
October 2005 - 100 mg - BFN - 11 day LP
November 2005 - 100 mg - pregnant!!!
We're having a GIRL!!

babylove
Me - T (27)
DH - K (31)
Married - 8/2003
Charting - 11/2004
TTC - 3/2005
m/c @ 6w4d in 4/2005
Issues - Luteal Phase Defect (low progesterone, late/erratic O, long cycles)
Clomid 50 mg (O on CD17) - 09/2005 BFN
Clomid 50 mg (O on CD 17) - 10/2005 BFN
Clomid 50 mg w/ u/s and b/w monitoring (O on CD 18) BFP!! - 11/2005

September 2006

UTChick
Me: 28
DH: 34
Married 9/20/03
Off BCP since 12/04
SWH until 5/05
TTC w/ Charting since 5/05
Known issues: irregular ovulation
HSG normal
BFP - DEC 05

Stephanie
Me: Stephanie, 25
DH: Brian, 29
Married: 10/6/01
TTC: 3/04
Known issues: None, that we know of yet. Varicocele possible.
SA to be done in the next month. Cycles returning to normal after BCP.
BFP 12/2005

ocgatita
Me: Judy
DH: Edward
Married: 4/04
TTC #1 since: 6/04
Known Fertility Issues: None
BFP - 12/2005


DallasLady
Me - Giovanna (25)
DH - Tony (39)
Married - 9/01
Charting - 11/2002
TTC - 1/2005
Issues - Low sperm count (14mil/ml) and low morphology (6% Kruger)
First IUI cycle 11/2005- BFN
Jan 2006 - BFP!!

MSH
Me: 24
DH: 24
Married: August 2003
TTC: August 2003
Off BCP: Never on them
Charting: December 2003
12/04: DH had surgery to correct SA issue
02/05: PG!! - m/c'ed at 5w4d
04/05: PG!! - m/c'ed at 5w6d
08/05: CP
11/05: CP - was perscribed prog sup.
01/06: Waiting to have HSG done to make sure tubes are open and there are no other problems
1/06: BFP!!!

Happy1
Me: Nikki
DH: Tim
Married: June 8, 2002
Forever in our hearts: Jacob John born and died
10/6/03 at 35 weeks due to genetic issues.
TTC #2 since: January 2004
Known Fertility Issues: DH has an extremely low sperm count which we just found out about a month ago. He has seen a Urologist but there are no physical signs that would explain the decrease.
IUI - it worked! - BFP - Jan 2006


October 2006
Nigellas
Me: Kerry
DH: Chris
Married: 8.7.01
TTC: Off and on since 2001.
4 miscarriages (11 wks, 19 wks, 6 wks and 12 wks)
RE is stumped – unexplained infertility and RPL.
5 failed Femara cycles
Currently on Gonal-F with IUI
2/06 BFP!!


November 2006
Kemorr
Me: 29
DH: 31
Married: 1/5/2002
TTC: September 2004
known issues: short LP, spotting, low forward progression, low morphology.
HSG normal, day 3 bloodwork normal, 7 DPO progesterone normal except for most recent cycle - slightly low.
Clomid 50 mg 4/05 - BFN, Clomid 50 mg with IUI, trigger and progesterone
6/05 - BFN
7/05 - Clomid, HCG trigger and IUI - BFN
8/05 - chemical pregnancy
9/05 - injectibles with IUI, BFN and 10/05 treatment break, laparoscopy and hysteroscopy
10/05 - Laparoscopy and hysteroscopy, stage 2 endo diagnosed and treated.
10/23 IUI with injectibles BFN
2/06 - IVF - BFP!!

December 2006

ag05
Me: 33
DH: 31
Married 5/01
TTC since 1/04
Clomid 50 mg 5/04
Clomid 100 mg 6/04
Clomid 150 mg 7/04
Clomid 150 8/04 - pregnant
11/04- missed miscarriage w/ D&C (13 weeks)
Clomid 150 mg 2/05 - pregnant
2/05 - miscarriage (6 weeks)
Started seeing RE 5/05
Known issues - Compound heterozygeous MTHFR, Irregular Cycles
8/05 Femara 5 mg/Ovidrel shot
9/05 Femara/Ovidrel shot
10/05 Femara/IUI
11/05 Chemical Pregnancy
1/06 - Femara/Injectibles/IUI, metformin, baby aspirin, progesterone, 4 mg folic acid
BFP - March 06

PurpleSunshine7
BFP March 06

Delaney21
Me: 26
DH: 27
Married since: 6/14/03
Off BCP since: 2/05
SWH since: 2/05
Charting: 10/05
Known issues: 2 ovarian surgeries - right ovary potentially damaged

[SAI Ladies]

BABIES!!
in order by birth and color coded by sex

amychris03 It's a BOY!!!
Me: Amy, 29
DH: Chris, 35
Married: 6/21/03
TTC: 9/03
BFP: 7/13/05
EDD: 3/26/06
ADD: 3/15/06
Sam, 6 lbs 9 oz, 18.5 inches long

heidi0622 It's a SURPRISE!!!
Name: Heidi/29
DH: Mike/29
TTC: 03/04
Treatments: 50mg of Clomid this cycle and I had acupuncture for the past 3 months
M/C: 10/04 at 5.5wks
BFP: 7/12/05
EDD: 3/22/06
Guess on the sex: BOY (no clue why!)
ADD: 3/13/06
Benjamin John, 7 lbs 1 oz, 20 inches long

Christy5599
Me: Amanda (Christy was my mom's name) 27
DH - Matt 30
Married 06-29-02
Off BCP - 01-03
TTC - 08-03
BFP 6-28-05
Due - 3-7-06
ADD: 3-9-06
Patrick Aiden, 8 lbs 8 oz, 19.5 inches long

angelgirl8
Me: 28
DH: dave, 28
Married: 7.6.03
TTC: 1.04
BFP: 6.2.05 after 2nd IVF -- twins!!
EDD: 2.8.06
ADD: 1.10.06 -- It's a BOY and a GIRL!!

Akire
Me: Erika - 34 DH: Jeff - 37
Off BCP: 7/03
TTC: 7/03
Charting: 8/03
HSG: 5/04 - One clear tube
BFP 11/04!! - EDD 8/6/05
Sydney Allyn 8/07/05 @ 3:23pm, 8lbs 8oz, 21.5in

Carissa (Crosew on WC)
Me: Carissa (25) DH: Eric (25)
TTC: Since 3/03
Diagnosed with PCOS and low progesterone.
Clomid, Metformin, prometrium and trigger shot
BFP 3/04, M/C 4.04
BFP 9/04!!! - EDD 5/25/05
Grace Elizabeth 5/15/05

Jennylou
Me: jenny
DH: Sean
Married: 9/20/03
PCOS
50 mg clomid and 1500 mg glucaphage
Forever in our hearts, DS
Andrew Wyatt 5/20-5/22/05

amygrrl
me: amy (35)
dh: dan (33)
TTC since: March 2003
Treatments: 6 failed rounds of Clomid. 1 successful IVF
Avery Elizabeth born still on June 3, 2005 at 27
weeks from possible cord accident (we love you, baby girl!)

[SAI Ladies]

Abbreviations and acronyms
List of TTC & IF acronyms
written out (http://womens-place.com/ttc/ttcacronyms.php)

HPT Sensitivity Comparison Charts
Fertility Plus (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hpt.html)
Pee On A Stick (http://www.peeonastick.com/hpts.html)
Mama's Ark (http://www.mamasark.com/hpt.htm)
Baby
Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com/pregnancy-test-sensitivity.html) (they've checked with the manufacturers to verify the numbers)
Remember, the hCG starts at 1 at implantation and increases as time goes
on, so the smaller amount of hCG it measures, the more sensitive the test
is!

Books
Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler, MPH (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060937645/qid=1041654042/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

The Fertility Sourcebook by M. Sara Rosenthal, PHD (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0737303808/qid=1042220393/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)

Healing the Infertile Family by Gay Becker (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0520211804/qid=1125724439/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/103-5989308-5276662?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

Inconceivable
by Ben Elton (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385334656/qid=1041659461/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books) The movie "Maybe Baby" (below) is based on this book

Inconceivable:A Woman's Triumph Over Despair and Statistics by Julia Indichova (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0767908201/qid=1059292613/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

The Infertility Diet: Get Pregnant & Prevent Miscarriage by Fern Reiss (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1893290395/qid=1059292976/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

Conquering Infertility: Dr. Domar's Mind/Body Guide to Enhancing Fertility & Coping with Infertility by Alice Domar, Phd (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0670031550/qid=1059293116/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/103-2812959-1358247)

Girlfriend to Girlfriend: A Fertility Companion by Kristen Magnacca (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1588202135/qid=1082306449/sr=8-2/ref=pd_ka_2/104-9895052-8814318?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

Great List of books for Infertility (http://www.ein.org/infertility/books.htm)
Includes these and more!!

Movies
Maybe Baby (2001) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000062XKW/qid=1041654127/sr=8-4/ref=sr_8_4/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=video&n=507846)

She's Having A Baby (1988) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6300988996/qid%3D1041654195/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-0287896-1655948)

Websites (by subject)

Charting
Ovusoft aka TCOYF (http://www.ovusoft.com/)
The site for Toni Weschler's book which includes message boards, chat and cycle galleries which are very helpful.

Fertility Friend (www.fertilityfriend.com)
A free charting site which includes a lot of information and cycle galleries.

Local Support
RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/chapters/resolvenearyou.jsp?name=chapters) Nation-wide referrals to local support groups and therapists.

The American Infertility Association (http://www.americaninfertility.org)
Lots of information and support, including message boards and chat rooms.

Financial Concerns
ARC: Advanced Reproductive Care (http://www.arcfertility.com/)
information on financing infertility treatments

Family Fee Plan (http://www.amerifee.com/fertility-financing/index.asp)
information on financing infertility treatments

State Insurance Requirements (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/advocacy/insurance/index.jsp?name=advocacy&tag=insurance)
Links from the Resolve site about insurance & laws.

Inciid's Insurance pages (http://www.inciid.org/index.php)
Click through menu on right for more financial topics and the insurance
forum.

General TTC
Trying To Conceive.com (http://www.tryingtoconceive.com/)
All things TTC! Lots of info as well as a place to buy herbal therapies for conceiving.

Baby Med (http://www.babymed.com/)
Tons of information. Everything from Chinese gender charts to an FAQ section on pretty much any TTC question you could have.

Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com)
Baby makin' supplies!

OBGYN.net (http://www.obgyn.net/)
Lots of general info on women's health. They also have doctors on line who answer questions.

Infertility Sites
INCIID (http://www.inciid.org/) Pronounced "inside".
(The International Council on Infertility Information Dissemination) Excellent national resource.

Resolve (http://www.resolve.org)
Wonderful site with lots of infertility information and support.

I dream of baby (http://www.idreamofbaby.com/fertility.php)
Learn the basics of fertility issues here. This site also has a great message
board community!

Fertility
Plus.org�s list of female hormone levels (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hormonelevels.html#female)
Starting your fertility work-up? Check out this site to see a list of the commonly tested female hormone levels, the function of each hormone, and the normal levels of each hormone.

Shared Journey (http://www.sharedjourney.com)
Shared Journey is dedicated to providing quality information on topics such as
infertility, miscarriage, surrogacy, pregnancy after infertility, living child-free, and adoption. Our information is supplied by well noted Reproductive Endocrinologist's, Psychologists, Adoption professionals and links through various sites.

FertileHeart (http://www.fertileheart.com)
A community of people exploring holistic approaches to fertility. A site by author Julia Indichova (see books above)

Specific IF Issues
Soul Cysters (http://www.soulcysters.com)
PCOS site with lots of support and info

Dr. Beer (http://www.repro-med.net)
Reproductive Immunology information, including lists of tests, pricing, local referrals

Reproductive
Immunology Support (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/immunologysupport/)
Yahoo group for RI patients, tons of info and articles

Info for Family and Friends
Empty Arms (http://www.vocalicious.com/empty_arms/empty_arms_mod.html)
This is a great video so they can understand what you're going through. (And get out your kleenex!)

[SAI Ladies]

Welcome to the 2006 Still At It thread on Constant Chatter! Let's all hope (and pray if you wish!) that this new thread will mark the beginning of an unprecedented amount of fertility on the board...

In our last thread we have sent a hearty
congratulations to these happy members!!:
Jennylou
UT Chick
BabyLove
Stephanie


In this thread we have sent a hearty congratulations to these happy members!!!:
Klav
ocgatita
MSH
Dallas Lady
Happy1
Katmg
Ag05
PurpleSunshine7
Delaney21


Our condolences to:
Polkadot
Katmg

We welcomed these new members:

GymWidow
Polkadot
Patience
Bumble
MSH
Kazata
TazLuv
Tandis


Members we'd like to hear updates from:
DaniML
graciebella
Jlp
kischer
La_bride_2004
Mobox
Pocket
silentbunny
Suzlywoozly


previous members who are expecting or had their babies!
Let us put you back in the stats!

[SAI Ladies]

Link to the previous Thread
http://www.constantchatter.com/showthread.php?t=11304

We are now open for Business!!!
Here's hoping 2006 brings us lots of BFPs!!!

[thedoorchick]

Yay, a new thread!

polkadot, I was about to reply to you in the other thread; you should be fine. Even if you implanted by 7 DPO (highly doubtful) there wouldn't be a blood connection to the baby yet anyway.

[tigerest]

Sorry I missed your stats update....

tigerest
Me-28
DH-29
Married 7/6/02
Off BCP 7/03 (started charting 11/03)
10/04 - DH's SA Normal
1/14/05 -Laparoscopy and Chromotubation=Endo removed/Both tubes blocked
4/15/05 - Laparoscopy #2 a success! Both tubes surgically repaired.
12/22/05 - HSG Both Tubes Blocked Again
Starting IVF January

[tigerest]

Copied from other thread...

Happy New Year Everyone!!! I am hoping its a lucky one for all of us!!!

I just barely caught up, but now I dont have much time for S.O's cuz of work! Darn work!

Welcome to all our new members, really wish you a short stay!

MSH - I remember you from the TTC with Charting thread, you were always very helpful!

Jules - HA! I drove from LA to Vegas over teh Holidays! Took us about 5 hours! But we missed the majority of the rain!

Polkadot - If you really want to play it safe I would stick to Benadryl. But Tylenol and Sudafed should be ok. My Dr always told me it was ok.

It used to really bother me when people asked. And for a while I had lots of good excuses like, when DH finishes school, or when we buy a car, or a house, but we are running out of excuses. At this point, I am almost ready just to tell people we cant have kids, but people mostly have stopped asking. I think they gave up after 3 years. Thank goodness.

Question: Has anyone taken Femara? I was hoping to get a little insight on it, should be starting it next month. Like what days do you take it one, what side affects are there, how much does it cost?

Thanks.....

[gator97]

Oi-just lost my post. So this may be slightly abbreviated (b/c the last one was long).

I've been reading a long in the last thread and truly appreciate everyone's support. I often think I am going crazy and it is so nice to know that these feelings are normal and that others are experiencing it. I really appreciate it.

Also, many thanks to our threadmistresses for a brand new thread for a brand new year.

We had our RE appt. today. Updated stats are below.

Good news and not so good news.

Good news first:
The RE is great! I really like him (and I'm hypercritical of doctors). I feel like we are in great hands.

He does not believe I have adenomyosis. This is great news! There is no way to definitely diagnose without hysterectomy (which would make conception quite hard). But he feels all signs point to no. This is very, very, very good news. He did a transvaginal and said the uterus and ovaries look good.

HSG is clear--uterus looks good and tubes are clear. Yeah!

Not so good news- there is fluid build up in the cul-de-sac where I had my endometriosis. This creates a "hostile" environment for the eggs and sperm. The only way to bypass it is IVF so we may be looking at that in a few months.
I feel like I'll be living at the REs office in the next week. Several tests still to go: bloodwork comes back tomorrow; post-coital after LH surge and "relations"; progesterone test 1 week after that; SA for DH in 10-14 days (he is sick right now). And then we'll have a better feel for what is going on.

I'm relieved to know there is no adeno but sad there is fluid. I really didn't think we'd have to go to IVF.

Threadmistress: Kindly update my stats at your convenience:
gator97
Me: Kristen (30)
DH: Peter (30)
Married since: 11/06/04
Off BCP since: 12/04
TTC since: 2/05
Known issues/test results:
8/05 laparoscopy: moderate-severe endometriosis
9/05 - Chem PG
1/06- HSG clear
I'll be better at SOs this thread. It's my new year's resolution.
As for telling people, only a few close friends know. I didn't want to tell anyone b/c I didn't want questions. We get them anyway.

[Lucy Van Pelt]

I have taken Femara for two cycles and gotten pregnant each time...but miscarried both time too. I didn't have any side effects though so that was good. I had taken Clomid but had horrid migraines so my doc switched to Femara.

[Elenna]

Thanks for the new thread!

My brother and SIL announced over X-mas that they are now expecting. That means my sister, cousin, and SIL are all pregnant right now. DH and I are the only ones in my generation in my family not pregnant. I've been taking it hard.

[katmg]

Yay for a new thread! Just subscribing...nothing to update right now.

[ocgatita]

Hey ladies, just subscribing to the new thread. I am still here, I found out on Thursday that I am pregnant. My numbers are all good, but I am still hesitant as I am only 4 weeks. My DH and I are praying that this baby sticks.

Good luck to all of you ladies in this new thread! I am hoping that all of you end this long road of IF.

Judy

[Lucy Van Pelt]

My brother and SIL announced over X-mas that they are now expecting. That means my sister, cousin, and SIL are all pregnant right now. DH and I are the only ones in my generation in my family not pregnant. I've been taking it hard.

Hugs! I know I have been in similar situations.

Anyone else feel like they are in a competition with a friend or family member? My SIL is also having fertility issues and we are very supportive of each other, BUT it feels like it's a race to see who will get pregnant (and STAY pregnant) first. She's starting injectables and in my super secret thoughts, I hope they don't work right away. What is wrong with me??? I hate that I feel like this. I can be such a horrible person sometimes. Maybe that's why I haven't stayed pregnant yet...:confused: Yes, I am so embarrassed to feel this way that I had to write it in super small font to hide my shame.)

(I know part of my reasoning for not wanting her to get pregnant is that I honestly feel my brother doesn't want kids and is just along for the ride. He never has wanted kids and she said she didn't want any more (she has a teenage daughter), but once she was pregnant and miscarried, she is obsessed with proving she can still have a baby if she wants to.)

[jjsanner]

Subscrin' to the new thread.

ocgatita-Congrats! That's wonderful news!

Elenna - I'm so sorry your having a rough go of it recently. About two months ago I went through a similar thing, where it seemed that everyone I knew was announcing their pregnancies. Here's to hopin' that great things happen to all of us in 2006!

As for me....I'm 8DPO today on cycle #2 of Clomid/Met combo. I'm trying really hard not to get my hopes up again (last cycle I was absolutely devastated when AF showed). I am trying to hold out and not test and simply wait for AF, but I'm not sure I have the willpower. But at the same time I certainly don't want to see another BFN.

[tigerest]

gator - Sorry about the fluid.

Elenna - I am sorry. I had the same thing happen to me. The day after I found out that IVF was our only option I found out that my stepsister was PG. After barely getting over that (3 days later) Christmas morning some friends of our decided to announce that they were PG. And then from the same friend yesterday recieved a baby announcement( 9 months early.) She is 5 weeks PG and already sending out mass emails that they are having a baby. Its been a hard few days. I am already trying to prepare myself for her shower.....eventhough its months away!!!

Lucy - I want to tell you that you are not a bad person, or if you are then so am I. I have similiar very bad thoughts, you're just brave enough to share them!

Judy - CONGRATS!!!! :)


I am thankful for everyone sharing their feelings lately. Helps me realize I am not the only one who feels like their going crazy sometimes!!!!

[skb]

Hi girls...just hanging out and waiting for my surgery. Happy 2006!

me: 31
dh: 33
10/04: TTC
03/05: hormone levels, ultrasound, SA normal
11/05: HSG uterine abnormality
12/05: MRI Dx septate uterus
01/06: Septate resection

[silentbunny]

May I join? After the miscarriage I just had, I feel like I have earned my stripes. :(

silentbunny
Me: Kirsten (35)
DH: Sean (32)
Married since: 05/22/04
Off BCP since: 02/05
TTC since: Officiclly since 04/05
Known issues/test results:
Long, crazy irregular cycles. Diagnosed with mild PCOS this summer. I ovulate, I just take an incredibly long time to do so.
Was on Metformin all this summer, which did nothing but make me nauseated.
09/25/05 -- first cycle on Clomid (50 mg) O'd on day 28
11/08/05 -- Clomid (100 mg) plus a steroid...dexamethazone(?)
12/09/05 -- BFP!
12/31/05 -- miscarried at 7 w, 4 d


What a lousy way to ring in the new year. I had an ultrasound today, which confirmed that the fetus is gone, and that my body is handling things. It's been a huge blow, but I am determined to try again as soon as is safe and wise.

I have already gleaned a ton of wisdom and support from these boards, so I hope it is okay if I join this one.

[Lucy Van Pelt]

Tigerest - Thanks! I appreciate that I am not alone in my evil thoughts. Hey - do you have LJ?

[MSH]

subbing!

[tigerest]

Lucy - Same name on LJ. :)

[MSH]

First off Threadmistress thank you so much for setting up the new thead. I know how much work it can be but you did an awesome job. Also thank you for the warm welcome.

tigerest I totally remember you too. I will admit I would much rather have been in one of the mommy threads together :) Hopefully soon. How have you been?

gator97 wonderful the hear you like your new doc. it is so important to have a Dr you feel comfortable. You sure have a lot of tests coming up ... I hope they will give you some answers. I know personally when we recently had a lot of tests run I wanted them to come back neg so there wouldn't be anything wrong with me. However, a pos. result could have possibly given us an answer ... but would that be the answer I would want to hear? It truely is tough.

Elenna I can understand it must be tough to be the only one not PG. I am very thankful non of our immediate family or friends are trying. I don't know what I would do if people were popping up PG all over. I know I have had some trouble getting used to a girl at work, whom I found out recently was PG. She is about 20w and really starting to show. I catch myself looking at her, wishing I was her.

Judy causious congrats. I hope for you and DH the baby sticks. Keep us updated.

Anyone else feel like they are in a competition with a friend or family member?
Lucy absolutely!! TIght now I just want to get PG and it be healthy before BIL gets engaged/married and definatly before they have a child. This is obviously a long times away but I don't have hopes too high at this point.

jjsanner I know it is hard not to get hopeful. I try to just plop my temp into Ovusoft and not look at the chart. I find that is where I start getting obsessed. I try the best I can to wait till AF is late before testing, just because I would get a darker line and am almost positively PG.

silentbunny I'm so sorry you had to start the new year this way. I hope you and DH will be able to get PG again soon.

----------------------------

As for me - I am 4DPO. I don't expect anything from this cycle. I know we had great timing and did everything else right. However, we did all of these things the last 26 cycles as well :)

I also wanted to thank you all for your warm welcome to this thread. I always appreciated the support and knowledge shared by the girls in the Charting thread on WC and I am glad to be joining a similar group, who know what it is like.

[Suzlywoozly]

Updated stats....

Me: Sue/28 DH: Jeff/32
Married: 6/15/02
TTC: 10/02
10/02: 1st Lap-Found ovarian cysts and endo
4/04: Started Progesterone supplements and 25 mg clomid
8/04: 50mg clomid - Had no follicles
9/04: 100mg clomid - Had 2 follicles and 1st failed IUI
10/04: 100mg clomid - Had 1 follicle and 2nd failed IUI
11/04: No clomid due to 2 ovarian cysts. Started Metformin 1500mg/day
12/04: No clomid due to "large mass" and ovarian cyst on left ovary.
Surgery the second week of January.
m/c 6/05
IVF 8/05-9/05
9/05 IVF cycle #1: BFN
10/05-11/05 IVF cycle #2:Waiting to do a FET
11/05 FET #1-transfered two blasts; BFN
01/06- Waiting around for a miracle

Sorry I haven't been around much... It has been really hard on me that we have tried two attempts at IVF and I have nothing to show for it. I need a money tree to sprout in my backyard before we can even think of moving on with any future FETs.

[ag05]

Here are my updated stats:


ag05
Me: 33
DH: 31
Married 5/01
TTC since 1/04
Clomid 50 mg 5/04
Clomid 100 mg 6/04
Clomid 150 mg 7/04
Clomid 150 8/04 - pregnant
11/04- missed miscarriage w/ D&C (13 weeks)
Clomid 150 mg 2/05 - pregnant
2/05 - miscarriage (6 weeks)
Started seeing RE 5/05
Known issues - Compound heterozygeous MTHFR, Irregular Cycles
8/05 Femara 5 mg/Ovidrel shot
9/05 Femara/Ovidrel shot
10/05 Femara/IUI
11/05 Chemical Pregnancy
1/06 - Femara/Injectibles/IUI, metformin, baby aspirin, progesterone, 4 mg folic acid


Thanks!

[gator97]

Lucy-- me too! I have nightmares that my BIL and his girlfriend will get pregnant. . . . and they aren't even trying and these fears are completely irrational. But I have them often! But grr. .. .that would just get me if that happens.

ocgatita- congratulations! Sticky, sticky vibes for you.

Elenna- Sorry about the rough time. It completely sucks. Our very good friends got PG their first month trying. We were supposed to be pregnant before they even started trying. It sucks.

silentbunny-I'm so sorry about the miscarriage. It just stinks.

Going through lots of emotions tonight. We are not at the point of IVF being the only option but the likely option. So, I feel as though I'm grieving for the possiblity of conceiving naturally. I feel broken. So, we'll see what the additional tests show (and yes, I feel like I'm going to be in my REs office a lot in the next few weeks).

[Lucy Van Pelt]

It makes me feel better to know I am not the only one who goes through these feelings.

I have a friend who has been dating, engaged, married, and pregnant (due any second if she hasn't already delivered) in the time DH and I have been trying. I even "joke" that my friend's 13 year old (going on 20) daughter will be pregnant before me.

I'm so miserable on this metformin crap. I HATE IT. I haven't taken it tonight but I know DH will be asking me if I have taken any of my meds soon...:(

I know I mentioned it to Tigerest, but if any of you have LJ, I write a lot more in there just for the privacy issue. In fact, I will probably delete the part about my SIL just because I am paranoid she would stumble upon it. She knows I frequest this site.

[tigerest]

skb - Good luck with your surgery.

silentbunny - So sorry about your miscarriage and you having to join.

MSH - Been ok, taking breaks here and there. Starting IVF this month. Good luck this cycle!!!

Suzly - :( Sorry to hear that you IVF's haven't been working.

gator - I definitely mourned over never being able to conceive naturally. It sucks!!! I cried for 2 days straight this last time, knowing that IVF was our only chance at this point. Hope you get some more answers.

Lucy - I am the same way. I worry about people reading my stuff.

[Lucy Van Pelt]

Tigerest - I added you to my f-list. I'm sweethoneybee on LJ. :p

[cowgirl]

I would like to join. I am back to CD1.


cowgirl
Me: 28
DH: 33
Married since: 6/14/2003
TTC since: 6/14/2004
Charting since: 10/24/2005
Known issues/test results:irregular cycles
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f3285

[purplesunshine7]

I would like to join this thread please.

Purplesunshine 7
me:29
dh:28
married:4/5/03
bfp:5/17/05
m/c:6/2/05
ttc since july05
known issue: short LP

Oncd24 right now and temps are staying high. 8 dpo but af is due tommorrow please sent lots of babydust and prayers.

[DallasLady]

Yay for a new thread! And welcome to all the newbies. I hope your stay here is short and sweet :D

4dpo for me. This is our first "break" cycle, no meds and no IUI. I am not even charting, but I did do OPKs and I got a really dark + on CD13, darker than I have ever gotten without meds. I am hoping my 2 cycles on clomid jump-started my body and that I will go back to Oing like normal. And on top of that I am hoping that DH has a good month (his count fluctuates from month to month).

On competing: I definitely feel it too. BIL just got married. We haven't shared our TTC issues with anyone, but BIL has made comments like "Wouldn't it be funny if we got pregnant first even though you two have been married 4 years?" DH is the oldest, so though he says it doesn't matter, I know he wants to be pg first.

[gymwidow]

Even though my temp didn't go up (yet), I know yesterday was O day thanks to that handy HCG shot on Monday. So, today is 1DPO and I'm making a pledge to try not to obsess over every symptom, imagined or real. Part of me is very hopeful for this cycle, but the doomsday part of me is afraid of a short LP, or just that it'll never happen. I'm trying to think positive thoughts only.

tigerest, all I know about Femara is that my insurance company covers it for only my $10 copay. Sorry I'm not more help!

gator97, well, I'm happy for the good news and sad for you for the bad news. I guess it could be a lot worse; at least you have IVF as a viable option! I hope all your testing brings good results so you can get started soon.

Elenna, hugs to you.

ocgatita, cautious congrats to you! Sticky vibes as well!!!

Lucy van Pelt, no shame. I think we've all harbored secret thoughts similar to that at some point in relation to someone in our lives. I have two best friends who are TTC right now and while I honestly will be so happy for them if they get pg before me, I'm sure there's a little part of me that will be jealous b/c I will want it to be me, too! And don't even ask me what I'll feel if my SIL gets pg again before me. She has two kids, but I know my BIL would have another right away if she agreed.

jjsanner, good luck!

silentbunny, I am so sorry for your loss. I hope you heal quickly and are able to start trying again as soon as you're ready.

MSH, I hope your 2WW passes quickly and brings you the results you want!

Suzlywoozly, hugs to you!

DallasLady, I hope this "break" brings you some peace of mind. And maybe even a BFP. I'll think some happy thoughts for you!

Welcome cowgirl and purplesunshine! I hope your stay here is short and sweet.

[knoelani]

I think I checked this yesterday and there were only the first few posts! We move really quick around here.

Judy~ Cautious congrats to you, I'm sending you lots of sticky vibes.

jjsanner~ Good luck with the rest of the 2ww

lucy~ You are not alone, nor are you a bad person. I think we all have thoughts like that and it's a harsh reality of what IF does to your mind.

Elenna~I'm sorry you had such a difficult time during the holidays. I spent part of mine surrounded by parents, kids, pregnant ones...you name it. In my family I only have one married cousin and my younger brother who don't have kids, everyone else is either pregnant or has kids. It's a tough way to spend your holiday time.

gator~ I'm sorry you got not so good news at the RE, but glad you liked the RE, I think that makes a difference.

tiger~ I've never taken femara, but that might be out next step. I'd be interested in learning what you do.

silentbunny Welcome to the group, I hope you find support and friendship here. I'm really sorry about your miscarraige.

suzly~ I'm so sorry that your IVFs didn't work, I was really pulling for you. Hey, if you find one of those money trees, will you let me know? :)

Welcome to the other new members!

Not much going on here, getting ready to o hopefully, and getting ready for the Rose Bowl!

[SAI Ladies]

Okay Ladies - I think I got everyone!!

Congrats to ocgatita!! Happy & Healthy 9 months to you

Welcome to our New Members! I hope your journey towards Motherhood ends here very soon!

[papergirl]

Lucy - Sometimes our feelings don’t always seem appropriate but I think that’s what makes us real and human. There was one friend (who I mentioned in a previous post) who brought so much disappointment to my heart when I heard she was pregnant. It was truly painful to hear her say those words. I cried and expressed my disappointment, with much embarrassment, to my husband. It was difficult as I can understand it has been for you.

I have friends that I really want to get pregnant, usually people who have been trying longer then me and who have had more issues. On the other hand, I often wish that those people who haven’t tried all that long don’t get pregnant (at lest not before me).

I also had a m/c and wonder if I brought it on myself because I do have a mean spirit sometimes. Because I do get bitter when I see people achieving what I desperately want – a healthy pregnancy. But deep down I know that is not the case. I know AMAZING people who are struggling just like me.

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Since I am not charting right now I can't say for sure where I am in my cycle though they are pretty regular so I think I am 6DPO. I should get AF on the 10th but today at lunch I had bloody CM. I would love for this to be a good sign but honestly, ever cycle I have something that I swear is THE sign I'm pregnant and I've never been right. :(

[wonderousglance]

I am so frustrated. :mad:

I was supposed to have an IUI this month, but I am currently on CD 40 with no signs of AF. I have tested 3 times, all BFPs. I have never had a cycle this long. What could it mean? Could it be that I'm not ovulating? Is that a sign?

I don't know if I should call my doctor's office, but maybe they'll give me something to get my period started. :(

[papergirl]

I somehow neglected to add - welcome to the new faces. I hope your journey to pregnancy is short and sweet.

rebj : Hmm? I did take photos in Time Square, that I love, but that was my only real NY location. I think you may have me comfused with someone else... though I clearly remember you. My wedding was red, lots of red. And a candy bar.

[DallasLady]

I was supposed to have an IUI this month, but I am currently on CD 40 with no signs of AF. I have tested 3 times, all BFPs. I have never had a cycle this long. What could it mean? Could it be that I'm not ovulating? Is that a sign?

I am guessing you didn't chart at all this cycle... it may be an annovulatory cycle, those can happen from time to time even in perfectly healthy women. The RE should be able to do a blood draw to figure out where in your cycle you are.

[wonderousglance]

DallasLady -Thanks for the info. No, I didn't chart. I haven't charted since seeing the RE a few months ago. I asked him about it & he told me it wasn't necessary since all the previous charts I showed didn't indicate any problems.

[marteneym]

MSH, Silentbunny, Cowgirl, and Purplesunshine Welcome! I am sorry you all have to join us. I hope you have a short stay and 2006 brings you the little ones you are hoping for. This thread is a great place for support in the mean time.

CTS Sorry to hear you didnt O. Are they uping your dosage?

Elenna I am sorry about all the fam pg. That must be so hard. I just recently found out about 5 pregnancies at our church. We had 10 all at once over a year ago. So frustrating when we are still waiting and this is the 2nd and 3rd for 2 of them. And Ooops babies on top of that. All that to say, I understand how frustrating it can be.
{{{HUGS!}}}

ocgatita Congratulations!

As for me I am not charting this month. I will do Opk's in another week and an IUI. I just needed a break from the daily obsessing. So far I am much more relaxed. Hopefully that will help.

[cowgirl]

Dallaslady Thanks for the welcome. Hope this break is just what you need.
gymwidow Congrats on Oing. Thanks for the welcome.
knoelani Hoping you O soon. Thanks for the welcome.
Bumble I think we all have those feelings. I know I have.
marteneym Thanks for the warm welcome. I hope 2006 brings us both bundles of joy.

[Nigellas]

Question: Has anyone taken Femara? I was hoping to get a little insight on it, should be starting it next month. Like what days do you take it one, what side affects are there, how much does it cost?

I was on Femara for 5 months – I think CDs 3-7, but I’m not positive on that… My insurance covered it so I only had a $12 copay each month. My biggest side effect of it was that my hair starting falling out- In gobs :eek: . It is a listed side effect, though not one of the more common ones, so hopefully that won’t happen to you.

[tigerest]

Nigellas - OMG!!! Thanks for your post! Great, then that will probably happen to me because lots of my hair fell out when I went off birth control. But thanks for the warning!!!

[julesp313]

I have no update but I wanted to show my face in the new thread! :)

I'm CD-something beyond anywhere I've been before and not O'd but that's obviously due to my poor confused body not knowing what's going on after the M/C... oy.

[ag05]

ocgatita - Congratulations!

[polkadot]

wow i am slow....i was still in the Holiday thread??? Hello???:confused:


Anyway i just posted this in the TTC w. charting thread but maybe someone over here can help!!!

ok, the craziness is starting to set in.....i cant watch the football game b/c i am scared i might throw something at B's new TV....so i came onto the computer big mistake....i was looking at my past cycles and i have NEVER had a temp dip at 8DPO....and never had any kind of cramping...OMG...i am going to completely freak out for the next 4 days i promised myself i would not test until Sunday but i know i cant wait that long....when do yall think i should test....if i implanted today whats the earliest that it would cause a + HPT....

somebody help me i think i might explode....this is SO frickin nerve racking!!!

[MSH]

Sue I'm sorry IVF has not been the ticket so far

gator testing just plain sucks. I honestly never wanted to know this much about my inner workings. I think TCOYF is a good read for anyone but years of TTC and testing is just taking the joy out of this process. I hope lady luck will shine her light on all of us someday soon.

Lucy Your feelings are perfectly normal and I am sure anyone who has even the slightest understanding of IF (and i would hope most other people but you just never know) wouldn't blame you for feeling this way.

I too use LJ to post the more personal facts. I know several girls are are planning weddings and frequent boards. I just do not want them to stumble on my journal and know of our struggles as it is not something I am ready to share with people IRL.

Tigerest thank you!! Good luck to you as well. I hope IVF will be your ticket out of here. I keep thinking we are headed that way as well, however I am just not sure when I will be able to take that step. This is by far the hardest thing I have ever had to deal with.

cowgirl and purplesunshine7 Welcome!! I am new to this thread myself but the girls have all been wonderful!

DallasLady I definatly remember you from the WC days. Good to 'see' you again. Unfortunate we are both in this thread and not a mommy-to-be one, hopefully soon.

I think I would almost slap my BIL if he made that comment. That would be more than what I could handle at this point.

I hope your 2WW passes quickly and brings you the results you want!

gymwidow From your lips to Gods ears! I find the trick to surviveing the 2WW is to just plop your temp into FF/TCOYF and not even look at the chart. I make in my calendar when AF should have arrived and then try my best to will myself out of testing before that day.

knoelain I hope that egg shows itself soon! Good luck

bumble I know that feeling. I would never wish IF on anyone as it really is tough and can break a great relationship due to the stress and frustrations. However, I too wish it would be just a little bit more difficult for some people to get PG. It is so hard to watch people to get it on the first try

wonderousglance I agree with DallasLady ask your RE to draw a blood sample to see if you have Oed yet.

marteneym Glad to see you again!! (not so glad to see you in the TTC thread still :() I hope taking a charting break and the relaxation will help you on your way.

polkadot I would strongly advise to wait till at least 12DPO before testing or you will put yourself under even more stress analysing the test results. I know it is easier said than done.

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Me? same old, same old. I am 5DPO, AF should show 12DPO, I plan on holding out till at least 14DPO for any testing if AF doesn't show on time. I have to call my OB sometime this week to schedule a HSG to check the goods. My OB doesn't suspect my tubes to be blocked as I have been PG before, it is more to check my uterus

[purplesunshine7]

hi everyone well AF is due today, and I think she may come, I keep having cramps on my side and my backaches.I hope she doesn't show up.my temp did come down a very little today from 98 to 97.9. I know thats not a llot but it sure does look ugly on my chart.I have never made to 9dpo since m/c so I am hoping if I am not pg that at least it will wait a few days that way I can lengthen my LP. But either way I perfer her not to come at all. I don't have a lot of hope it's just hanging by a thread. Please send as many prayers as you can babydust won't hurt either. Thanks for listening to me vent. I will keep you all in my prayers.

[gymwidow]

My temp went up! My temp went up! :D I'm so excited! Even though I knew I O'd due to the HCG shot, it was still nice to see confirmation of that on my thermometer. Especially since last month my temps didn't go up till about a week after my doc thinks I O'd. I'm really excited and hoping that this month I don't have any of the worries that plagued me before. Here's hoping for a nice long LP and, of course, a BFP!

My DH asked me last night if I felt pregnant. He said, "Do your boobs feel sore? Are you nauseous? Do you feel any different?" I told him, much to his disappointment, that it was way too early to tell. It was cute that he was so excited, though. He really can't wait to be a dad. :)

bumble, I hope that CM was a good sign.

wonderousglance, call your doc!

marteneym, I'm glad the break from charting is good for you. I'm thinking of not temping anymore after I get enough high temps in for FF to confirm my O date. But my anal retentive nature might make not temping even worse. We'll see.....

jules, I hope AF shows up soon for you so you can get back on track!

polkdot, I know a few people who've had BFPs as early as 10DPO. I hope you can keep your mind occupied with other things so you don't go nuts waiting!

MSH, yeah, I try to stay away from FF after I enter my temp in the morning. I'm going to try to last till 12DPO this month before testing, which is a week from Sunday. I hope I can last!

purplesunshine, crossing my fingers for you!

ETA: Threadmistress, can you please update my profile to include:

Treatment: 11/05: 50 mg Clomid = 1 good follie, late O ~CD20, short LP
12/05: 50 mg Clomid = 1 good follie, HCG trigger, O on CD 17

Thanks!

[CTs_Punkin]

Well, just checking in -
Not much new here - I didn't O this cycle on 50mg of Clomid. I had a good follicle, but it just didn't want to come out & play it seems.

DH had his SA done on Tuesday. The results should be sent over to our RE intime for our appt.

We have our initial consultation with the RE on Tuesday. Can anyone give me an idea about what they talk to you about, what they do? Just not sure if I'm ready for DH to see me in stirups just yet.... I need to double check that my records were sent over from my OBGYN's office. I can't believe how much paper work I had to fill out....

Polkadot I hope this is it for you, but would definately try and just hang in there until 12DPO like MSH suggested. I know it's hard, but remember, a dip may just be a dip....
Gym widow Yeah for the affirmation of O!! How cute is your hubbie!
MarteneyM I hope the step back helps! I want to see you with a BFP soon!!!

[polkadot]

thanks for all the nice thoughts girls....i really hope the dip wasnt just a dip but i am trying not to make too much of it....this morning was really weird....Brian works nights so he doesnt get home until 4:30 in the morning...well this morning when he got home he woke me from a very peaceful sleep well i went back to sleep and had the most vivid dream.i was very excited abou taking my temp this morning so that i could see if it went up and that may have triggered the dream but here goes....

**Dream**

I wake up and immedialty hop out of bed and dont temp....i walk into the bathroom and there on the countertop is a BFP....i was very calm m walked over to BRian and said "look" he says yep, youre pregnant! Then i start to freak out b/c i didnt temp and he says dont worry about it you are already PG...and then i look at the test one more time...its still a BFP ...

and then I wake up....it was so weird I have never had a dream like that before....just thought i would share that TTC gets so engrained in your life that you subconsiously dream about it....but then again...doesnt everyone?

later girls...

[gymwidow]

CTs Punkin, ugh, I'm sorry that egg didn't want to come out. What a stubborn little thing! I think it's great you're going to the RE. At my first appointment, I met with him and we went over my history and concerns. I was at about CD18 or so then and had taken Clomid that cycle, so he did an u/s to see if I had any follies. Then we went over what my treatment would be and that was that! My RE does constant monitoring, which I really like, since I need to know what's going on at all times. Ask him about taking Provera if AF doesn't show soon, and find out what his thoughts are on Clomid alone, Clomid plus IUI, IVF, etc. Definitely ask about an HCG trigger shot since you didn't O this month even though you had a good follie. My doc told me that I could go right to IUI if I wanted to, but we decided to do the drugs alone for a few months (at DH's request). He cautioned against jumping straight to IVF, which I agreed with. DH didn't go with me to any of my RE appointments until this past Monday and then he only went b/c he was off from work and I wanted him to meet the doc. Even then, he stayed in the waiting room. He said he wasn't quite ready yet to see me in the stirrups and I said that was fine by me! He'll have plenty of opportunity later.

polkadot, I hope your dream comes true, literally! (cross post from TTC thread)

[purplesunshine7]

POLKADOT I had a dream last night that I got abfp but just as soon as I saw it dh woke me up:(. At least I was happy for a whole few mins. On the brighter side af was suppose to show today and so far nothing. There is nothing worse than a bfn and a late af but still keeping hope. temp came down again today I hope it goes back up tomorrow.
HOPE ALL OUR DREAMS COME TRUE:)

[julesp313]

My chart is wacked out... bloody hormones (or lack of). I'm on CD23 and no clear signs of O. I had a couple of days of potentially useful CM but no temp rise, and in 27 charts, I've never not had a temp rise. Then yesterday I had a tiny bit of EW/watery CM and today I got a temp jump. Now, I could just have been hot overnight, of course... only two more days of temping will tell. I have no problems missing this cycle from a TTC point of view, but I'd really like to get my clockwork cycles back - even though it took us 11 months to get a BFP, at least I knew when AF was coming! Now I have to go out always prepared in case she shows. Sigh...

[polkadot]

purpleshunshine....i am hoping that our dream come true too...when are you testing?

ok...i think i maybe **thinking** too hard but i **think** my BB's are getting sore....:eek: That is unusual for me....oh please oh please oh please let this be it....:o

[MSH]

purplesunshine7 Sorry to hear about the temp drop. I know when I got my first BFP in Feb last year my temp droped and I was sure AF was due, except it shot up the very next day I got a beautiful line. Since then I have had a hard time convincing myself AF is knocking even though there really is no doubt.

gymwidow Woohoo!! For the temp rise. How great to have the temp rise to confirm O. It just makes for a nicer chart and some peace of mind.

Don't you love how clueless men can be sometimes. I know my DH sometimes say we should go BD just to be sure and I have to remind him AF is in the house and it really isn't optimal timing :rolleyes:

As for testing I am trying to wait till at least Wednesday. The only thing I will allow myself to test early for is in case my OB wants to do my HSG next week. Don't want to rise anyone out ;)

CTs Punkin So sorry the little eggie didn't wait to come out and play. I hope you and DH get a good result on the SA. I know that is where one of our major issues were. DH had minor surgery and the very next cycle we got a BFP

polkadot that is one very interesting dream you had there girly. Hopefully your dream comes true. I had a very funny thing happen last spring. I woke up and felt this pressure on my tummy, I looked down and out little kitty had curled up on my belly for a nap ... a few days later I got a BFP.

Hmm ... sore BBs definatly could be a sign :)

julesp313 sorry to hear your chart is confusing. I know it makes a huge difference in when I O depending on if I remember to take my prenatals. Caught me off guard the first month and we definatly missed the oppertunity and AF was delayed by a few days.

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Well I'm 6DPO, I am going to say I have no signs pointing in eiter direction as I don't want to over analyse things at this point. I have to schedule a HSG with my OB but his phone was busy all day. Will have to try again tomorrow. Hopefully he will not be able to do it till after AF is due, just in case.

[gator97]

MSH- my RE would only do the HSG prior to CD10. I don't think they would schedule it until things were certain about that cycle.

polkadot- fingers crossed

jules- hoping for back to normal cycles for you.

CTs Punkin- sorry about this cycle. Yeah--the paperwork for the RE is incredible, isn't it. I just had my intial appointment on Tuesday. The nurse went over all the paperwork with us. She confirmed medical history for both of us, went over medications I was taking, how long we'd been trying. . . basically went over all the questions in the paperwork. She talked about what we might expect for this appointment. I gave her my charts at this point. I took my whole year's worth. They were SO impressed with the charts I printed out from Fertility Friend. I was kind of surprised how iimpressed they were with it. Certainly I'm not the only one.

Then, the doctor came in and asked some additional questions. Talked to us about the endometriosis and gave us more information about adenomyosis. He did a transvaginal ultrasound to look for signs of the adeno and to look for possible fluid from the endo (which he found). They also did bloodwork. They were checking for three things: one is thyroid, the other two I can't remember without checking my paperwork.

As he did the ultrasound, he talked about his findings.

Then, we went back into the office where the nurse came back. She gave me prescription prenatals to try b/c they didn't want me on the OTC anymore. She then gave me a whole packet of additional information (they gave me a folder and a book when we got there). This included what we needed to do for the additional tests coming up:
Start OPKs and when I get the LH surge, I have to call to schedule the postcoital. I am to have "Relations" that evening (that just cracks me up).
Then a progesterone blood test one week later
We got a cup and prescription for DHs SA.

They did the HSG that day b/c they could fit me in and otherwise I would have to wait until next cycle b/c I was already CD10.

I, too, was quite nervous about DH being exposed to all of this. He got the crash course of me in the stirrups when they did the ultrasound after our miscarriage.

I think the miscarriage was the turning point for my DH. He hasn't fussed about the SA, he seemed okay about the stirrups. . . all things that really would have made him uncomfortable before.

Wow--that was long-winded. It's fresh in my head. Feel free to PM me if you want additional info.

[polkadot]

gator- its is great that husband isnt giving you much hassle anymore...men! they never fully realize what we go through until it happens to them...

MSH- thanks for the encouragement...you have such a good outlook...at 6DPO i was freaking out about any symptoms i could think...such willpower! ;)

everyone else- thanks for the positive thoughts....i hope they work!:D

[gymwidow]

I think this 2WW is going to be harder on my DH than on me! He asked me again last night when we could test. I told him no earlier than a week from Sunday (which will be 12DPO). He was so disappointed. He said it's not fair that we have to wait so long to know! I told him I knew exactly how he felt. :rolleyes:

polkadot & purplesunshine, you girls made me remember that I had a dream a couple of weeks ago that I got a BFP. I can't remember if it was during this cycle or last. I hope it was this and that it's a sign of good things to come! :D

Jules, ugh, I'm so sorry it's taking your body some time to get used to things. I know how you feel about having to be always prepared. Before starting Clomid in November, my last 2 cycles before that were annovulatory and 45-50 days long. After about CD30 I was always worried that I'd be somewhere and AF would show and I wouldn't have anything with me!

MSH, the HSG is typically done b/w CD8-10, after AF, but before O. I hope you don't have to have it done, though, and get a BFP instead! My DH is learning a lot about how pregnancy really happens - he of course had no idea all the complicated workings that are involved! It's cute how excited he is, though. It definitely lets me know he is 100% invested in us having a baby. I can't wait to see how he reacts when we get a BFP!

gator, you really did find a fantastic RE! I'm so glad that your DH is supportive and not complaining about all the testing. I was ready to throw something at my DH after he complained repeatedly about his SAs.

[julesp313]

I *think* I may have O'd... my temps have been up two days in a row, and despite no real CM signs, I'm hoping the temps will stay up. I know my hormone levels are probably all freaked out after the M/C so I'm just hoping to get AF and get back to where I was...

Polkadot - my boobs killed me when I was pg. I don't remember when they started to hurt but it was very different from pre-AF soreness... so I'm hoping this is a really good sign for you!

MSH - an HSG has to be done pre-CD10, so your dr won't schedule you for one til after AF arrives. Or doesn't arrive, fingers crossed! I've never noticed my O date varying with prenatals, though that's an interesting thought - will have to figure that out. I'd always O'd right around CD14-16 before the M/C, so I'm hoping that I'll go back to that once all my hormone levels are back where they should be... having a clockwork cycle was the one thing I could count on in the insanity that is TTC!

Gator - men have no clue what goes on in a gyno's office - nor do they really understand TTC and pregnancy all that well. My DH was freaked out when I had a pelvic exam with him in the room, but (like your DH) now that we've been through that, an SA, a HSG, got pregnant and had a miscarriage, he seems to be better with it all... funny how that works out!

Gymwidow - tell your DH while he may be frustrated, at least he's not the one who'll have the FPS and try to interpret every little twinge and pain! Men don't know how good they have it...

On an unrelated note, I decided that I have three goals for 2006 (not resolutions as I'll just break those). My priority is to get myself fit and healthy - I'm about 60lbs overweight and that's not good. Secondly, I need to pass the CPA exam - I've got one part down but three to go and I just need to suck it up and get it done. And thirdly, get pregnant and have a healthy pregnancy and baby. I put this third only because I have the least control over it and I figure by focusing on the two goals that I have near-total control over, the third one will hopefully slip in under the radar. :)

[tigerest]

Hello everyone! Boy, its seems a lot of us have been busy! Sometimes I wish I didn't work so I could take care of all this IF stuff, its like another job! But then how would we afford it, so I keep working, and making a gazillion phone calls while I am at work. :/

Ya, My DH is quite sympathetic about all my appts now after seeing me go through it all. He has to have another SA next week, and he just said, Ok tell me when! :p

Well I am all set to start. As soon as AF shows I give them a call. Then I go in for my baseline U/S and get my drugs, and probably learn how to give shots. Which I think I will be making DH do, I just can't imagine stabbing myself with a needle. I am guessing I will be having my retrieval/transfer somewhere in the last week of January! I am so glad this happened fast, doesn't give me much time to overthink all of this!!!

[purplesunshine7]

hi adies Well still no af on cd26 and 10dpo ff sugest possible implantation yesterday. Of course I tested before knowing this and got bfn. so now I don't know when to test again. I keep getting crampy like af is going to come and if I go to the bathroom one more time to check I think I will scream.If I don't get a bfp or af by monday then I will set up a blood test.Does anyone know how long after implantation that I would possible have at lease 25hcg. Temps stayed the same today. I guess thats not good or bad.I hope you are rightMSH I am waiting for those temps to jump.POLKADOT : when are you testing? I am going to try not to test agian until monday, easier said than done:) Crazy think is AF is never late for me but I am a little concerned too because I usually have a short LP so if I am pg then I want to get to the dr ASAP. Well let me stop blabbing on and on. Dream the dream ladies and maybe they will come true I will pray for all of you.

[polkadot]

i just tested....and BFN...and right now the F aint for Fat i can tell ya that....this one really hurt.....even brian said dont worry about it...they arent always right this early and I know that but it still sucks....i really wanted this to be it...i am very bummed right now...but i have to go and get dressed b/c its my sis b-day and we are going out to dinner....i dont wanna go....:(

talk to you guys later...:( :( :(

[CTs_Punkin]

Polkadot sorry about the BFN - but remember, it is really early and you didn't use FMU, did you? Keep your chin up! Enjoy the dinner w/ your sister - it will help keep your mind off of things. Test again on Sunday if AF hasn't arrived... who knows, perhaps that dream still can come true.

Purple sunshine Same thing as Polkadot - 10DPO is still REALLY early to get a BFP! Hang in there and wait until Sun or Monday to test next. It will help from having to see those dreaded BFNs...

TigerestGood luck w/ IVF... I hope this brings you the baby you have been waiting for!

As for me, just hanging out, waiting for AF to arrive - I'm on CD35 and of course, I stopped temping over the week of the holidays, because my blood work didn't confirm O - however my temps this week have been higher than those the week before I stopped temping, so no clue if I might have O'd late or not. It's still not really high - so I'm doubtful. Our BD timing would be terrible too, as with 6 guests staying at our house, we were just too exhausted.
Next Tuesday we have our RE appt - keeping my fingers crossed that I like him. Never been to a male dr before - so it shall be interesting, and DH has never seen me in stirrups... this will be awkward!! But will just have to get used to it.

[katmg]

polkadot - I'm sorry about the BFN. :(

*RANT*
I am so sick of celebrities like Britney Spears and the Trumps being able to have kids so damn easily. :mad: I just read an update on the Trumps - he's not even going to be there for the birth of his child! It sounds like they weren't even trying b/c he was "surprised" by her announcement that they were pg.

People like Kevin Federline can procreate with two different women, no problem. Apparently doesn't bother being a responsible father, etc. Men like him have no trouble getting women pregnant and my DH and I struggle with infertility.

Why is it exactly that the people who don't want kids seem to have no problem having them and those that desperately want them get stuck with infertility??
RARRRH!

*End Rant*

[CTs_Punkin]

Hugs Katmg I hear ya sister! It pretty much sucks A$$ - but we all take what is given to us, and realize that we will be very thankful for a baby, and perhaps won't end up quite as F'd up as those various celebs kids.

[Elenna]

Thanks for the hugs, ladies. I'm feeling better. I have the best sister. She just knew my SIL's announcement would affect me badly so she called. We talked about it and I feel better.

Polkadot and Purplesunshine-sorry about the BFNs

Tigerest: Good luck with the needles, drugs, and IVF.

[karlatta]

Why is it exactly that the people who don't want kids seem to have no problem having them and those that desperately want them get stuck with infertility??

Try being a high school teacher. I have pregnant students, and I know several who have recently had abortions. It is heartbreaking to see it every day when DH and I aren't able to have kids without serious intervention.

[julesp313]

Kat - right there with you on that one!
Polkadot and Purple - you're testing very early... from what I've read, implantation can be anywhere from 5-12DPO. If you're a late implanter, you may not get a BFP til 15 or 16 DPO. I know I'm implanted at 9dpo (felt it) and got a very faint BFP at 12DPO, but also had a massive temp jump. I know being patient ain't easy, but it's not over til the fat lady shows up and makes you buy panty liners... :)

Me - I'm calling an O. I've had three days of higher temps (back in the usual post-O range, pre M/C) and I *thought* I had O pains a few days ago, so this could be good! We won't have a chance this cycle, but we weren't trying so that's fine. Now I just want AF and then TALLY HO for the next cycle! ;)

[DallasLady]

Why is it exactly that the people who don't want kids seem to have no problem having them and those that desperately want them get stuck with infertility??


I try not to think about this because it just makes me angry. I have so many family members with "ooops" babies that they don't even want (and barely take care of). It just sucks. :mad: :mad:

purplesunshine7 and polkadot Sorry about the BFNs. 10dpo is still a bit early, but I understand how hard it is to wait. I have been known to do an 8dpo test in sheer desperation :D On the bright side, there is still hope!

As for me, I have been feeling this weird twinges in my lower abdomen ever day since 3dpo. They are very much like O pains, but I have never had them after Oing. So, of course, I am obsessing over it. This is supposed to be my break cycle, so I shouldn't be thinking about it at all (yeah, right.)

I am not charting anymore, which I am glad for because I would be waking up at 4am obsessing about my charts. AF is due Saturday or Sunday, so, we'll see.

ETA: Looks like someone hasn't shared her good news with this thread.... ;) ;) ;)

[polkadot]

Hi ladies...well i tested this morning and guess what....

BFP!!!!

I am still in shock but i wanted to come and share with all of you....i have only been here a short time but you were all sooo welcoming and helpful in the last few weeks...i wanted to say thank you to all of you...and i hope each and every one of you gets a BFP....soon!!

[katmg]

polka - CONGRATULATIONS! That's so great - Happy and Healthy 9 months to you!

To everyone who read my rant - thank you! Sometimes it seems like everything just gangs up on you in one day. It's nice to know I'm not a completely evil person for having these thoughts. (Or if I am at least I have plenty of company. ;) )

[gymwidow]

6DPO and just waiting for the FPS. I am trying so hard to think positively, but I can't shake the awful feeling that this is just not going to happen for us. I'm so worried about having another too-short LP. I go tomorrow for a progesterone check and will email with my doc after that to see about taking supps. Even if he doesn't want to prescribe suppositories (which I'm okay with!), I want to ask him if it would hurt me to use one of the OTC creams that are available. I just don't want to take any chances, you know?

I'm going to try my hardest to wait till Sunday (12DPO) before testing.

Jules, awesome resolutions. Good luck reaching each one of them! (Hopefully that last one real fast!) I'm glad that you're nearing the end of this cycle so you can get back into TTC.

tigerest, yay! I'm so glad that you're on your way!

purplesunshine, good luck!

CTs Punkin, are you looking forward to your RE appt? I couldn't wait to get to my first one. It was also my first time with a male doc, but it was okay and I only get weirded out when I think about it. While I was in there, it was fine. Good luck!

katmg, I hear ya!

Elenna, I'm glad you're feeling a little better. You're lucky to have a wonderful sister like that!

polkadot, congrats! I just knew this would be your month. I'm so happy for you! :D

[purplesunshine7]

af came 2 days late. This is going to be the last cycle I chart I definitly need a break, I will also go see my dr. if it doesn't happen this cycle. The only good thing about af coming late is that it lengthened my LP. Congrats to POLKADOT.Dallas, JULES and GYM thanks for the support. I will pray that all of you get a BFP real soon.

[DallasLady]

((((((HUGS)))))) purple. I certainly understand the need for a break. TTC can make a person certifiable.

Big congrats to polka! H&H 9 months :D

[CTs_Punkin]

Thanks gymwidow - I'm excited, nervous, scared... lots of emotions about heading to an RE for the first time... But I'm hoping that there will be a plan of action that will ultimately result in a BFP (and hopefully not require me to take a second mortgage on our house ;) )

AF arrived this morning - so looks like I probably won't have to get in the stirrups tomorrow infront of Dh!

I'm glad AF arrived, as this means that hopefully we can get things going after our appt tomorrow... nothing like plowing ahead ay?

Purple Sorry this is taking it's toll on you. I hope this month is your month and you can rest easy... but I completely understand about needing a break. I took one over the holidays, although I am kicking myself, as I don't really know if I O'd or not... as my temps were higher when I started back up...

Congrats again to Polkadot

ETA - I forgot - I dreamt that I got a BFP this morning... I woke up just as I dropped the second POAS in the toilet from shaking so much from the excitement... it was a pretty funny dream... of course I had to test this morning - alas, 30 minutes after the BFN, AF arrived.... isn't that always the way? :)

[DallasLady]

Sorry about AF, CT. I had a weird dream as well, I took a test and 4 lines came up.

[jjsanner]

Congrats Polka! I had a good feeling about you this month.....

As for me, spotting started Friday night and full blown AF arrived this morning. That was cycle #8. We have an RE appointment schduled a week from today. I called this morning and was told to pass on the clomid so that they could proceed with testing as usual. However, next Monday will be CD 7, and I really don't want to completely waste this cycle. Should I call back and ask to get CD 3 blood drawn anyway? To all who have been to an RE, what is the usual course of action? Is CD 3 bloodwork a correct assumption?

I'm trying to stay positive here, but it just feel like we've been trying forever.

[knoelani]

Congrats Polka, I hope you have a H&H 9 months!

jjsanner My RE hasn't done CD 3 b/w with me in the past, I guess they all do things differently.

katmg Trust me, you are not alone in your thoughts!

No news here, just patiently (or not so patiently) waiting for this cycle to end. We've taken a three cycle break and I'm ready to move ahead with treatment again. I wish we could go now, but as I just o'd (I think), we've got another two weeks or so before I go back to the RE.

[marteneym]

Congrats Polkadot![B] So are you buying the baby adidas?

[B]Purplesunshie, CTs, and JJ So sorry AF showed up. {{{HUGS}}}
Purple- I hope the break is exactly what you need.
CTs- Good luck at your RE appt. I hope it brings you answers anda BFP.

Tigerest Good luck with IVF!

katmg Why is it exactly that the people who don't want kids seem to have no problem having them and those that desperately want them get stuck with infertility??
I found out about yet another OOOPS baby this weekend. That makes 4 in one week. AHHH! It isnt fair! We all want this so much.

I want to say HUGE THANKS to all of you that have been so supportive the last few months. We are coming up on 16months of TTC and it is so swesome to have such a great support group here. Thanks to all of you who offered good wishes concerning my not charting. I feel so much more relaxed this month.

I had ewcm this weekend and took an OPK. NEGATIVE. I will start them Wednesday. I am expecting O this coming weekend.

[Lucy Van Pelt]

AF showed yesterday. This is actually a good thing. I started my bcp for the month and then will go back on the femara next cycle. I'm having weird cramps this time though. Instad of the normal crampy pains, they are more like stabbing pains and they HURT.

Weekend was decent. DH and I went to the Sharks/Kings game Saturday night, but had to leave early because of migraines - a sign AF was well on the way.

Congrats to Polkadot! How exciting!

[Elenna]

Congratulations Polkadot! I hope you have a health and happy and sticky nine months!

[Alioop12345]

Congrats Polkadot!!!


I have mostly been avoiding this thread.... I was on BCPs last cycle due to ovarian cysts and I bled ALL month long. I am now CD2 and see the RE on Wednesday for an U/S. I have already startedthe Estradial and hopefully will be starting the Viagra and Gonal F on Wednesday. We'll see....

We are now on month 9 TTC.....

[ag05]

Polkadot - Congratulations



Well I went for my day 3 ultrasound today and picked up my prescription for Femara and Follistim. My first time with injections. So, I'm happy to get moving with things again. I'll be back soon to update and do a complete list of shoutouts.

[suzfuzsunflower]

Wahoo polkadot! That is great news. :D

I took provera and am waiting for AF to start. This should begin in the next two days or so, and then it's on to a higher dose of clomid. I'm kind of nervous about side effects on 100 mg. I had no se's at all on 50 mg.

I have some questions about RE's. I would really like to see one. We are on our 11th month TTC, no ovulation at all, still don't know what's wrong. What's holding us back is insurance. Our insurance isn't so good right now...are visits to the RE a lot more expensive than an OBGYN? We'll be switching insurance later this year, but I'd kind of like to get a move on...

Thanks! Have a good week every one! :)

[Patience]

Congrats Polkadot! What a great way to start off 2006! :D

[wonderousglance]

I went into the RE for a beta & progesterone levels on Thursday. They called me today & told me the test was (-) and I didn't ovulate. I am picking up a prescription for prometrium tomorrow to jump start AF. Then I will see what happens. If I don't ovulate again, on Clomid I will go.

Congrats Polkadot. :)

[julesp313]

Congrats, Polkadot! Always good to get news like that in here!

Y'know, I realized we have a really interesting group of women in here - between us, we have so much going on and so many things to think about and contemplate, it's a wonder any of us is sane! Though I'm making the assumption that any of us ARE sane!

Me - I've got FPS up the wazoo. We weren't trying this time because I was just waiting to O and then get past this M/C cycle, so the chances of us getting a BFP are about 1% - though stranger things have happened. I'd be more than happy to get AF, just to get back on track, but of course I'd be even happier to get a BFP! It's amazing that the mind can fool you so well, isn't it?

:rolleyes:

[MSH]

Congratulations Polkadot!! H&H 9 months

jjsanner I haven't personally been to an RE but I believe they do CD3 b/w and 7DPO b/w. Hopefully they will be able to shed some light on your situation.

knoelani Glad to hear you are feeling up to TTC again.

marteneym taking a break from charting can really relax you. I know we have taken a few breaks in our 2 1/2 years of TTC and it was wonderful not having to temp and not knowing exactly when things happened.

Lucy You know I have had those cramps before. They just make you stop dead in your tracks. They really took me by surprise the first couple of times.

Alioop Sorry to hear about the side effects of the cysts/BCP combination. Best of luck this cycle.

ag05 I wish you all the best of luck with the injections. I know other girls who have had great success with it. Hopefully, you will join them soon.

suzfuzsunflower I think taking any sort of medication to help improve TTC chances are scary. I hope the higher dose of Clomid doesn't have any significant side effects for you.

wonderousglance I'm sorry about the test results. I hope this next cycle has a much different result for you.

jules I think we would be kidding ourselves if we claimed to be truely sane. I know I get a little coocoo the days before AF is due, over analysing every little thing.

---------------------------

Well girls I am sorry I didn't get to do complete SOs. I am just too tired to go back any further at this time. I will try to keep on top of them better.

Personally I am 10DPO and the PPS are starting to set in. I won't be testing until AF is officially late. I just cannot take another false pos reading. CP etc. So Friday will be the day.

[MrsSmith]

Wow, a lot of new faces in here! I guess that's good news...the oldies are moving on.

I've been out of the loop for a little bit because we're not trying right now. We probably won't start again until the summer or the fall. I'm not going to any dr.s or anything like that, so there'll be nothing to report. Hopefully, you'll all be gone when I get back! I'll keep you posted if there are any surprises, but I'll pop back in from time to time.

[papergirl]

hi ladies.. it seemed liked AF showed up for several of you. i'm sorry that had to be the case. currently i am in limbo. since i have not charted these last two cycles i am not certain what cd i am on though i think it's about cd37. that is not uncommon though i am usually 34-35 days. at what i assume is 6dpo i have a gush of blood that only appeared on the toilet paper, which never happens. since then i have a speck of blood at least once a day but no AF. it's always red - never brown like you usually hear implantation spotting to be. usually i have very heavy AF so this is all unusual, which i had wished would be good news. i have tested twice (second time this morning) and got a BFN. so i'm really feeling like this is not it. :( damn it, i really wanted this to be it. had i not m/c my due date would be in 6 days. i never thought i would still be trying when january rolled around. it seems so freaking cruel, you know?

in some better news, i go to see an RE next tuesday. someone asked about insurance and an RE. this is my first time going so i can't say too much. plus, we have good insurance that should carry some of the early cost. however my understanding is that this first visit without insurance would be $325.

congratulations to polka dot!!

[CTs_Punkin]

Well - I'm off to see the RE today... and very very nervous!

Yesterday's AF - was just spotting it seems... so just waiting for AF to actually show... with my luck it will be right in the middle of my RE appt... :o

Wish me luck...

[wonderousglance]

Good luck CT! :)

[alliekat75]

I don't know where I "fit." I have been off of BC since March 2005. We've been "actively" TTC since October 2005. By "active," I mean, timed BD and the use of a Clear Blue Easy Fertility Monitor (starting 12/05). We've not prevented since 2005.

The FM has been very a useful tool. Until last cycle, I've had VERY regular 28day cycles with spot showing up on CD24. Last month, the FM showed 4 HIGH days and finally a PEAK reading on CD 17 & 18. Spot didn't show until CD28 and AF arrived on CD32. I had tons of FPS, took 3 HPT (all negative) and AF arrived on Christmas Eve, one hour after taking my last HPT.

This month, CBE still hasn't shown a PEAK reading. Today is day CD18. I've had 5 HIGH days. Is it possible to O every other month? The dr suspects I may have endo on the left side. ???

I have an appt with an RE in March. I'd really like for him to do a full work up before he throws Clomid at me.

Anyway, enough rambling. Here is my personal information. I look forward to participating in this group. I appreciate any insight you can offer.

alliekat75
Me: 30
DH: 33
Married: 12/2003
TTC ??? 10/05? 03/05? I'm not exactly sure
possible endometriosis and suspected luteal defect

[gymwidow]

Ugh, I just lost my whole post with SO's to all. I have to go get some work done b/f I can come back and recreate them, but in the meantime, here's my update, copied from the TTC thread:


Does anyone know if temps can be affected by a change in bedding? On Sunday I finally took off our quilt and put our down comforter on our bed. Yesterday my temp was the same as it had been before, but today it took a huge jump, even though I kicked off the covers halfway through the night. I know you guys can't see my chart (MUST figure out how to fix that on FF), but basically, since I O'd last Tuesday my temps have been around 97.9-98.1. Today it shot up to 98.6. I'm only 7DPO, so I think it's too early to be a triphasic chart, but of course my imagination is running wild.

In other news, I had bloodwork done this morning and will find out this afternoon what my progesterone levels are. Keep your fingers crossed that the numbers are nice and high!


ETA: I got my blood test results back - my progesterone is a nice healthy 16! I'm so excited. Trying not to get my hopes up too much, but really wishing this is it.....

[skb]

Hi ladies.

Back with my new and improved uterus. The surgery went well and hopefully recovery will go just as well. For the next 30 days I am taking HRT to help things heal. Thereafter I will have a follow-up HSG to see how the uterine cavity appears without the septum.

Feeling well mentally and physically.............................

[gymwidow]

purplesunshine, I'm so sorry. I hope that taking a break is good for you and that you come back to share your BFP with us soon!

CTs Punkin, I hope you had a great appt today!

jjsanner, personally, I would call them and tell them you don't want to waste a whole cycle and would prefer to start the Clomid now and can you come in for CD3 bloodwork to prep for that. But that's just me and it's probably pretty obvious how impatient I am! ;)

knoelani, I hope your 2WW goes by quickly!

marteneym, good luck catching that egg! Have fun trying! :D

Lucy Van Pelt, then I'm happy for you! I hope she leaves soon so you can move forward again.

Alioop, ugh, I'm so sorry. I hope this cycle is better and that the RE gives you some good answers next week.

ag05, good luck!

suzfuz, I hope the 100 mg does the trick. Hopefully those s/e will stay away. My RE is covered by my insurance, so I don't know what the difference in cost it. I just pay my $25 copay when I go in. Sorry I'm not more help!

wonderousglance, I'm so sorry. I hope AF comes and leaves quickly!

Jules, sane? Hehe, speak for yourself. I'm making myself nuts (nutsier than I already am?). :p

MSH, crossing my fingers for you! I'll be testing 2 days after you, so hopefully we'll have good news to share soon.

MrsSmith, hi!

bumble, I will think some happy thoughts for you. I hope the RE appt goes well!

alliekat, welcome! May your stay here be short and sweet! :)

skb, that's good news! Many wishes for a very speedy recovery!

[julesp313]

Am swamped at work but wanted to pop in and check up on everyone. All my FPS miraculously went away yesterday so I'm back to just waiting on AF so we can start trying again. Sanity slowing ebbing away (the little I had left after a year of this crap!).

:)

[purplesunshine7]

hi ladies I just had a bad day which is now giving me some time to evaluate my life, This is just one big rant so if you want to skip over its ok.
Work totally sucked. Talk about a terrible day. I am so glad I am home however I don't really look forward to tommorrow because I work 12 hours tomorrow. I have a social worker who helps me with stress management and panic attacks and I really like going to her but she is leaving and I am getting a new doctor(what fun). But before she leaves she is sending me to a psychiatrics(ms). I told her I would go for a initial check up but I am not taking meds because of ttc. I don't even think I need to go for a initial check up. I asked my doc if she thought I wasn't making progress, she said no that I am doing better but that is't just the next step, great what's after that comitting me. No ladies I am not crazy just depressed and very emotional which usually affect my attitude.OH anyway so I've been thinking about that and my DH he is so wondrful that I sometimes don't think I deserve him When AF came late a few days ago I just cried . He said we will try one more cycle and if that won't work then we will go to the doctors to see what is going on. On top of all this we are trying to buy a house by march. Iam on vacation from work on the 19- 25 this month. I can't wait! But it will not all be wonderful as DH's birthday is the 23rd, which was the EDD of our little angel. Maybe that is whyI feel like crap. Oh hell I can't even type it with out crying. I just wish this whole nightmare would end. If you got this far with me then let me say thankyou. I hope all of you have a good month and alot of BFP. When it's all said and done I still have some hope.

[katmg]

Purple - I'm so sorry you're having a rough time right now. Seems like sometimes everything bad comes at one time, eh? Hope you get to feeling better.

Stupid DH's work sent him to stupid NYC today with no notice for 2 days which meant we had to cancel his appt. on Thursday. Called the RU and they "had no record of that appt." Idiots. Finally got it straightened out and we can come on Friday afternoon. Whew. If I had to wait out the weekend I might have to hurt somebody - we are ready to know WTF is going on with DH's test results. Am I stressed? Just a wee bit.

On a "I'm not a psychic, but I play one on T.V." note, I keep having these dreams and thoughts that we'll have twins. If it happens, just remember you heard it here first. ;) (I've had so many of these thoughts now that I'm okay with the idea of twins; my 5'-0" body may not be though.)

[CTs_Punkin]

RE appt update - cross posted from my LJ journal

Well - some good news and not so good news on the RE front

Well the good news first - I like my RE - he is personable and kind and actually explained things like no other dr I have ever been to. Other positives, DH's SA seems to be normal, although he is doing another test to be sure and will test for antibodies too this time.

Now the bad news...
Looks like my blocked tube might need to get a Lap done to see how bad/what the damage is. He won't know more until the films are sent over (which I thought they had been). But it may require me having one of my tubes removed/or closed off... depending on what he finds.

The more emotional news is that my FSH level was 14 (normal is below 10, borderline is 10-15, bad is 15 and higher) - which means that at 33 I possibly might be coming to the end my ovary's life cycle. We are doing another test (CD3 & CD10) with the Clomid Challenge to double check these numbers for this, so I'm not getting myself into a panic just yet. :) I'm also getting an AMH which can also tell them more about what kind of time frame my ovaries have... so we shall see.

After I get my CD3 tests done, and Clomid Challenge this month, we regroup with the RE to discuss next steps. Depending on the outcome will depend on how aggressive we will need to be.

Jules I'm not counting you out yet!!! Just be FPS went away, doesn't mean that real ones are just a day away!

Purple Hugs to you!! Sorry you are having such a rough time.

Kat Oooo I hope it's twins!! Good luck this cycle!

Gymwidow Thanks for thinking of me, the appt went great (not great news, but it was a good informative meeting which is all I can really ask for)

[tigerest]

polkadot - Congrats! Thats great news!

MSH - Wishing you + vibes for Friday!

skb - Glad you are feeling good!!! :) Hopefully you will have a great HSG.

Alliekat - Welcome and good luck! I agree, I hope the RE looks into more before giving you clomid as well.

katmg - I am also getting used to the idea of twins too. But worry about my body! Glad you got your appt worked out.

Purple - First off {{HUGS}}! Sorry you are having a bad day! I know your not crazy! But you know what, I wouldnt blame any of us if we were because TTC and IF is definitely enough to drive one insane! At one point I was doing really bad, and so I started seeing a counselor because I was worried I was getting too depressed. What you wrote...I could have written myself back then, and probably did at one point. But my counselor told me it was normal to feel these things and that made me feel better. I am sure you have been through all this, but I just wanted to let you know that is is ok to feel sad and to cry. And I hope you keep talking to someone. It really does help. Also, try to find something you enjoy and spend a little time on yourself. For me it was snowboarding (I know random) but it really helped lift my spirits in a time I desperately needed something. Take a bath, get your nails done, go shopping with a friend. And if you smile at least once that day, celebrate that one smile! Anyway, I may just be babbling, but I just wanted to let you know that you are not alone. Hope you feel better!!!


Ok, I know I missed a lot of SO's I am sorry. I am thinking of you all....and following along. Thanks for the well wishes with our IVF. I had my first IVF appt/US today and got both good and bad news!

THe good news is in fact awesome news. My natural killer cell count was normal so I dont have to have IVIG. They were too high the last time I was tested. But that was before I had the endo removed and before I started taking fish oil! So YAY!

Slightly bad news, I have a cyst about twice the size as my ovary on my right side. Now if this is a Ovarian cyst my cycle will be cancelled, but we think its the same cyst I had a year ago on my tube, that has returned. If it is that then I will have it drained during retrieval. I should know soon.

I am popping in and out as I can. But good luck to everyone!

[tigerest]

Cts - I think we posted at the same time. Wow, that was a ot of news in one appt. Sorry to hear about your FSH and your tube! :( Sounds like you're in good hands though!

[suzfuzsunflower]

I have a lot of grading to do (I'm a teacher), so this will have to be short...

purplesunshine7 - I'm so sorry that you are feeling so bad. I hope that you feel better soon and that you enjoy your vacation from work.

CTs_Pumpkins - I'm sorry about the news at the RE. I hope that the Clomid Challenge test does not confirm the FSH level.

I took provera to bring about AF. My period always comes 3 days after I stop taking the medicine. Today is 6 days later...is this something to be concerned about? :confused: :confused:

[Lucy Van Pelt]

I took provera to bring about AF. My period always comes 3 days after I stop taking the medicine. Today is 6 days later...is this something to be concerned about? :confused: :confused:

I had that happen to me one time. I usually start 3-4 days after my last provera but one time it was over 10 days and nothing. I had to retake provera for another 14 days to trigger AF. Hopefully she will show soon!

[Hangin'in]

Popping in quickly to let purple know that I know how she feels. I started seeing a therapist almost a year ago. The MD said I needed meds, which I do, because this whole IF journey is a trip into hell. He put me on wellbutrin. It is the only antidepressent that is safe to take while TTC and PG. I discussed it with my RE, and he agreed. I take. it. like. clockwork! Anyway, if your MD thinks you need to take meds for a while, talk to them about wellbutrin, see what they say... it may rock your world, and save you from some of this BS. It certainly did me.

Congrats to all those who have gotten BFP's. Hugs to all of us still trying...

[Alioop12345]

saw my RE today and had NO cysts so I am ARMED and DANGEROUS with Estradial, Gonal F, Viagra, and HcG! LOL!!!! I can't wait!

[gymwidow]

8DPO and still a pretty high temp. My chart is now looking like a lovely triphasic one. I got it all fixed so you guys can see it now. :)

Still no other FPS. I'm trying to stay calm and remind myself that it's actually more likely that I'm not pg this cycle. I'm trying to focus on work and other stuff and just not think about it all. Sigh, that's hard to do! :rolleyes:

Jules, it sounds weird to say, but I hope you get AF soon (so she can be gone and you can get busy again)!

purplesunshine, please keep that hope. I'll be thinking of you. I hope your TTC ends soon with a BFP and a new baby to love.

katmg, stupid doctor's office. I'm glad you got it sorted out. Don't they know by now never to mess with a woman waiting for infertility test results?!?!

CTs Punkin, I posted to you over in the TTC thread, so you know I'm thinking about you and hoping all turns out well soon!

tigerest, not bad! I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers as well.

suzfuz, the first time I took Provera I got AF about 5 days later. The last time it came almost immediately. I think it might vary from cycle to cycle.

Hangin'in, hugs indeed!

Alioop, that's great!!!!!

[polkadot]

Ladies- i jsut got back from my first appt to confirm me being PG and when i took the urine test in the office it was -.:( :( :( :(

She then sent me for a blood test....i will get the results sometime this afternoon....when she gets them she will call....

Ladies - i am so devestated right now...i cried the whole way home and couldnt finish the day at work....

Everyone please pray....:(

[DallasLady]

Oh no polkadot! How could that be??? When did you get your HPT BFP? I am so sorry for you!! :( :( :( Major ((((((((HUGS)))))))) to you and DH.

[julesp313]

I have to leave this afternoon to travel to a client site in Missouri so wanted to catch up before I left and may be - shock, horror! - without Internet access for a couple of days.

Me - my chart is looking very good post-miscarriage. I definitely O'd, though apparently my CM and my ovaries couldn't get their act together to do it right, so I had the fertile stuff then O'd late. Just as well this is a non-trying cycle, huh? So I should see AF early next week and then we have the dr's blessing to start trying again. YAY! ;)

Purple - I think we all go through the emotions you're dealing with, some more affected than others - this TTC roller coaster can be utter hell. I hope you get the help you need, whether that's medical or not, and that you find some support and comfort with us here. I have no advice, but I have hope that things will work out for everyone one way or another.
Kat - waiting for test results is the pits. They should know we need to know NOW... silly labs...
CT - glad you have an RE you like and even though the results are not what you want to hear, it sounds like you have a game plan and that's a good thing. There's nothing worse than not knowing what's going on and consequently not knowing what to do about it... I hope the subsequent tests show good results.
Tigerest - sounds like you had good and bad news, but it also sounds like the bad news can be made "good", which would be good!
Suzfuz - can't help with the Provera question as I've never taken it, but I believe AF can come anywhere up to a week after you stop taking it. Maybe someone more knowledgeable will correct me if I'm wrong...
Lucy - hope you're doing well...
Alioop - my goodness! I should buy stock in pharmaceutical firms... ;)
Gymwidow - that's definitely a very pretty chart! How long are you going to hold out before testing? It's oh-so-tempting, y'know! And yes, just wanting AF now so we can start working on this baby again!
Polkadot - I know I've read on CC that others have had a BFN at the dr's with a urine test but BFPs on home tests and blood tests. It astounds me that the dr's office wouldn't have MORE sensitive pee tests than we can buy at WalMart, but it seems that way. Hoping and praying for you to get good news from the blood work...

[katmg]

Oh Polkadot - I hope that the blood test comes back positive for you! Maybe you were using HPT that are more sensitive than the ones the doctor was using? I've heard of that happening before...<<Hugs!>>

[Alioop12345]

Prayers and hugs to you Polkadot!

[wonderousglance]

Polkadot - I hope their test was wrong. Sending good thoughts your way.


I started prometrium today. I took it once before, after my lap surgery because I was bleeding too long. Funny that it works the other way, too. Anyway, here's hoping AF shows up soon.

[gymwidow]

polkadot, hugs and prayers for you right now.

Jules, I'm going to TRY to last till Sunday. I'm getting egged on by a couple of friends IRL to test earlier, though. We'll see how I do!

[tigerest]

Oh Polkadot!!! {{HUGS}} I am hoping that their test was wrong too!!!

[polkadot]

the dr called my hcg level was only 28...she confirmed that i am pregnant but that i have to go back Friday morning at 7:30 am for more blood work to see if it is doubling...i am hoping and praying that it does....i am usure what it **should** be at this point....i am trying to stay positive but its not easy....i am really scared of miscarrying....but trying not to think about it and just try and be normal

[wonderousglance]

I'll be thinking of you Polka. Best of luck. :)

Okay I am surprised I can even type. I am so out of it since taking the prometrium 2 hours ago. I feel like I've been drinking. I am even slurring my speech. Anyone else experience this?

[marteneym]

Lucy Sorry you are having such bad cramps. Hope they go away soon.

suzfuz I only have had hot flashes on 100mg. My o pains seems to have gotten stronger the longer I have taken it. I hope you dont get any s/e's at all. Good luck.

wonderousglance I am sorry you didn't O. I hope af shows soon for you and you can start a fresh cycle. Maybe chlomid will do the trick.

MSH All crossables for you. Good luck testing. I will be stalking.

CT I am glad to hear the SA was normal. I am so sorry about your tubes and FSH though. I hope it is any easy fix. {{{HUGS}}}

Alliekat Welcome!

gymwidow I hope those prog levels are a good sign. All crossables for you.

purplesunshine I am sorry you are having such a hard time. I don't even have any words for you. All I can do is pass along {{{BIG HUGS}}}.

tigerest Sorry about your cyst. I hope it turns out to be drainable.

Polkadot Oh sweety, I am so sorry. I am hoping along with the others that it was wrong. {{{HUGS}}}

I officially started OPK's today. Negative. Hopefully in the next 2-3days I will O. This will be IUI #2.

[marteneym]

Polkadot We cross posted. I am crossing everything for you that your numbers double. You are in my prayers.

[gymwidow]

polkadot, thank goodness it's not all bad news. I hope the next 2 days go quickly. Hugs and prayers...

marteneym, good luck catching the egg!

[suzfuzsunflower]

polkadot - I hope that everything is OK. :)

Well, AF showed. It's weird to be glad about that, but I am. Yay for clomid on CD5!

[Nigellas]

Oh, gosh Poka, I'll be thinking of you and your little one!

WG - Are you taking it orally or as a suppository? I’ve heard oral is much worse symptom wise, though I take my in suppositories and it still makes me a zomie.

I'm like 4 DPO or so, and not feeling optimistic - I think our timing was way off, due to us both having colds last week. Oh well... If I’m not pregnant, that’s a little less round I’ll be when I go to Mexico in April…

[DallasLady]

I think I just got a.... BFP??

But it is sooooo light that there is also a good chance that a year of seeing BFNs is causing me to hallucinate. I am only 11dpo and it was 5pm when I took it. I have been burned by evap lines before, but this line came up like 3 minutes into the test. So, that's too soon for an evap isn't it?

I'm waiting for DH to come home and tell me he doesn't see anything. I simply cannot believe there are two lines there.

[DallasLady]

Polkadot, I am rooting for you and your little peanut! How many dpo are you? The low HCG could be just because it's still early. I have everything crossed for your that it will go up!

[polkadot]

giovanna- i hope this is it for you....i felt the same way seeing my BFP....i thought i was imagining it, from all the times of seeing that BFN....i am crossing my fingers for you... I am 15 DPO...Good Luck

[jennylou]

giovanna - good luck! I hope this is it for you. :)

polkadot - how many dpo were you when you tested? It's not uncommon to be low in very early pregnancy. Remember also, that it doesn't matter the starting number - just that they are doubling. It also doesn't have to be 48 hours - it's 48 to 72 hours. Good luck!

Thinking of all my SAI ladies. I still lurk in here and root for you. :)

[nutter13]

Hi ladies, I was hoping you girls could help me with a question...

I'm having a sonohysterogram on CD 9 of my cycle to rule out polyps for midcycle spotting. Anyone know if this will this mess up my chances of conceiving this cycle? TIA

[katmg]

OMG Dallaslady!! 11 DPO and a light line that come up 3 minutes into testing!! Sounds good to me!

[gymwidow]

suzfuz, hehe, I'm glad for you. I hope she leaves soon! Woohoo for Clomid! :)

Nigellas, I'll cross my fingers for you anyway! :)

Dallas, OMG, how exciting! I'm cautiously excited for you and hoping that you see an even darker line tomorrow. Yay! :D

nutter, having an HSG can often INCREASE your chances of getting pg during that cycle. The theory is that shooting all that dye into you opens up your tubes even more. I hope you're one of those lucky ones! :)

[suzfuzsunflower]

Dallaslady - I hope that this is it for you!

QUESTION: I went ahead and filled my clomid prescription. Last cycle I took 1 pill each day CD 5-9. Today when I picked up the clomid they gave me 14 pills...that is enough for 7 days at 100 mg. Has anyone ever heard of taking clomid for 7 days (CD 3-9?). I'm going to call the doctor tomorrow to make sure that I was given the correct amount.

[Lucy Van Pelt]

Giovanna - Oh wow!! I hope this is your BFP!!!

Polka - Best of luck with your bloodwork. I know how stressful it can be to wait. I'll keep you in my thoughts!!

I'm on cycle day 4 and I am still miserable. I am still pretty crampy, bloaty and gassy. I am not sure if it if just from AF or (more likely) a combo of AF and my ol' buddy metformin. The last few nights I have been taking SEVEN pills at dinner - metformin, pre natal vitamin, altenolol (migraine prevention), a decongestant to so I can sleep without a stuffed up nose, birth control pill, and two Tylenol, Excedrin, or whatever pain killer I have close by. It sucks.

[knoelani]

I'm just poping in real quick to say, Polka I'm thinking of you and wishing you the best.

giovanna WOW! I really hope this is it for you. Hopefully your mind isn't playing tricks on you and this is for real...you deserve it and I'm rooting for you!

[Patience]

Polkadot - I'm so sorry. I'm hope the results from your bloodwork are good. Hang in there!

DallasLady - I'll keep my fingers crossed for you. :D

I'm in my 2WW (11 DPO). I probably won't test this cycle because I'm tired of seeing BFNs. AF should arrive Sunday. The good news from this cycle is that the acupuncture and herbs appeared to have pushed up my ovulation (CD 14). My ovulation ranged from CD 15-27 before the treatments (the average being closer to CD21). So, I'm hopeful. But lately I've been feeling like I'm never going to get pregnant. This TTC journey was exciting when we started last December, but after one year I'm getting tired of waiting. I lurk the mommy-to-be threads to find out who has gotten pregnant while hoping this will be my month, but it never happens. I try stay positive, but there's no guarantee that it'll happen for me.

[Nigellas]

OMG Giovanna! Fingers and toes crossed! :D Let us know!

[DallasLady]

I'm on my way to work, but I had to drop this off:

6am, 12dpo:
http://easy-orlando.com/personal/12dpo.jpg

Can you see it???

[CTs_Punkin]

Giovanna!! OMG, OMG, OMG.... I am crossing all crossables that this is it for you!!! I am so happy!! Thanks for making my morning... I really do hope we get to kick you outta here..... :D

I cross posted with you - that is a BEEEUTIFUL line!!!

[MSH]

Giovanna!! I see it!!. Congrats girl!

[gymwidow]

Morning all. 9DPO today and I saw my highest temp yet (98.63; 2 days ago was 98.59). I keep trying to tell myself that the little crampy feelings I've had on and off below my belly button are just my imagination, and that I'm not really feeling odd aches in my boobs now and then. It's just my mind playing tricks on me! :rolleyes: Still trying to hold out till Sunday to test.....

suzfuz, I thought Clomid was just a 5-day thing. I guess calling your doc is the best thing to do!

Lucy Van Pelt, yikes, that's a lot of pill popping! I hope everything does what it's supposed to do so that you can breathe, have no pain, and be knocked up soon! :)

Patience, I'm glad the acupuncture seems to have helped. I think I understand a little how you feel; we haven't been trying as long, but the way some other things have gone in my life, I just feel like this is one more thing that I want and try for and will never get. I hope it happens soon for us all!

Giovanna, aaaahhhhh, I can't see it! But from what everyone is saying, I'm guessing it's a nice solid line! I'm so happy for you!!!!! :D

[julesp313]

Dallas - that is EXACTLY what my first BFP looked like at 13DPO... and that was definitely a positive! Congrats!!!! :D
Patience - I'm right there with you on the excitement having gone out of TTC. Even when I got the BFP last cycle, I couldn't truly get excited as I didn't really believe it was happening, and ironically it ended in M/C so maybe it was my mind's way of helping me... who knows. :rolleyes:
Lucy - sorry you're feeling so rough. I really hope things pick up for you soon - it's so hard to stay positive when you feel physically lousy.
Gymwidow - too funny that you have IRL friends bugging you to test - it's just like on here! I don't think anyone in this FP area goes past 12DPO without getting ragged on to POAS!

Me - I'm in Missouri. It's cold. I mean, COLD. Though according to the locals, this is fall weather - it got up to 60 yesterday! Yeah, but at nearly 8am, it's barely 30... now that IS cold! I'm in for a long day today - a couple of team members have been out here since Monday but the client's been sooooo slow so now we're swamped with stuff and will likely put in a 14 hour day today as we have to be done by 6pm tomorrow to get to the airport. Ah, the joys of public accounting... ;)

[jennylou]

giovanna - I see that line! Congrats! :) That's what mine looked like too....with both my pregnancies, never really darkened up. Of course, I never took one past like 14dpo, since I was getting betas at that point. :)

[skb]

wonderousglance- I am currently taking 0.9 premarin (estrogen) and to start/include 200 mg prometrium (progesterone) on day 16 of my cycle. My doctor had said in the past that taking "progesterone" would "bag me." At that time he advised against taking progesterone to lengthen my luteal phase for that reason. Now the meds have been prescribed for post surgery reasons but he did say to take the prometrium before bed. Hope that helps.

Can't say I'm enjoying premarin....so I'd bet prometrium won't be much fun either!

[wonderousglance]

skb - thanks for the info. I am not enjoying the prometrium. :( My stomach hurts, I feel exhausted, I'm all shaky feeling. :( It's awful. 9 more days to go.

[Nigellas]

Look at that purdy line! Congratulations Giovanna!

[DallasLady]

Thanks everyone!

I still don't really believe it though. I am going to test again tomorrow morning, and then I will call the RE for a beta.

wonderousglance I'm sorru you feel so yucky :( Hopefully the next 9 days will go quickly.

Patience I totally understand how you feel. TTC was fun and exciting at first, but now it's just an emotional drain. After a year of seeing BFNs, even when you do see a BFP (and you will!), it's hard to believe it. Having your O date move up is a good thing. Late O's can often yeild an egg that isn't a good quality. I O'd CD14 this cycle, I had previously been 17-22.

suzfuz I agree, I have never heard of 7-day clomid. Maybe you were supposed to get 15 pills and take 3 a day? I got 10 pills last month and took 2 a day.

[gymwidow]

Giovanna, ooh, I can see it now! It's very pretty. Yay!

[tigerest]

giovanna - Definitely see the line there, and 12 DPO is early!!! Congrats!!!

[CTs_Punkin]

Giovanna I sort of let it slip out to some old time WC TTCers on LJ that you got a BFP... sorry... Just a heads up as everyone who saw my comment was SUPER excited for you and planning on coming over to congratulate you.... sorry to spill the beans.... :o

[marteneym]

Giovanna Congrats girl. You deserve it!

xpost from journal:It has been a rough 24hrs. Last night I went home with migriane. Dh took good care of me. Lukcily it tapered off with ice. Then this morning I decided to temp since my cm has dried up to make sure I didnt miss O. Well of course it was up to 97.9. That is a post O temp for me. I had negative opk's sunday and wednesday. and cramping tuesday. My temp was down Monday. SO if I 'ed it was tuesday cd16 with the cramping or yesterday cd17. Way earlier than before. I added our last 2 bd's to my chart. I will do another opk in a little bit. I am going to keep doing them just in case. I have checked my cp a few times and it hasn't been very soft. I am not sure what to think.

What do you girls think? I know it is hard without much info.

[Elenna]

Giovanna: I can see the line quite clearly! Congratulations! Sending sticky thoughts your way!

[MSH]

Well girls after 27 very long cycles of charting and TTC it seems I have struck gold. I finally got my BFP this morning. It was bring and beautiful.

The full details are in my journal for those interested.

[polkadot]

YEAH!!! CONGRATS!!! Happy and Healthy 9 months to you....:D :D :D

[red_canuck]

Giovanna!! I just had to come in and say congratulations!!! that is one purty purty line :D:D

and nat! Congratulations here too!

[Nigellas]

MSH- My eyes are bleeding from that tiny font, but I wanted to say CONGRATULATIONS! :D Such good news around here lately!

:)

[gymwidow]

Ooh, you sneaky little thing, putting that in teensy type and hiding it in there. Yay! I am so excited for you!!!!! :D

BTW, I've had that angel on one shoulder and that devil on the other all day. :p

[MSH]

polkadot Thank you so much. I hope your beta comes back nice and high tomorrow.

Red thank you darling

Nigellas thank you very much. I don't know why I insist in typing in small font. There really is a lot of good news around here lately.

gymwidow lol ... had to try to make you guys guess. As for the devil, I have been told it was really red trying to influence me.

[marteneym]

Oh my goodness, CONGRATS MSH.

[knoelani]

MSH~ I started laughing about half way through your post and then just kept going. I think I know that little devil very well. I think you might have a hard time convincing people that you're an innocent now. Huge congrats to you, I hope the OB has some great new for you tomorrow.

[DallasLady]

Yay Natalie! We're BFP twins!

[MSH]

Yay Natalie! We're BFP twins!

Yes we are!!! how exciting. I tell ya' we have been at this long enough. I hope the rest of this is smooth sailing :)

marteneym thank you, thank you, thank you!!

knoelani glad you enjoyed my little story :) You are probably right, once I pop it may not be that easy to convince people of my innocence :D

[Elenna]

Congratulations MSH!

[Alioop12345]

I am running out the door but had to say HUGE congrats to MSH and Giovanna!

[cowgirl]

MSH and Giovanna Congrats to you both.

PolkaKeeping you my thoughts for tomorrow.

[katmg]

My goodness this thread is hopping!! I hope it hops right over to me next! ;)

Congrats MSH and Dallas!!

[gator97]

Huge congrats to MSH and Giovanna! What awesome news!

Giovanna--that is a gorgeous line. I see it very clearly.

[Patience]

Don't have much time for SO's, but wanted to send my congratulations to DallasLady and MSH! I'm so happy for you ladies!!! :D I'm sending sticky vibes your way. Happy and healthy 9 months to you two.

Ok, who's next? ;)

[Alioop12345]

quick question....

Any one else taking viagra supps? Do you have any side effects? I had the worst headache of my life yesterday and I still have it....Any thoughts???? Yesterday was the second or third day taking it. TIA!

[Nigellas]

Any one else taking viagra supps? Do you have any side effects? I had the worst headache of my life yesterday and I still have it....Any thoughts???? Yesterday was the second or third day taking it. TIA!

I'm not currently, but when I was I would get horrilble headaches, was always tired, and very cranky. After 6 months of that I decided to wait untli I get a BFP to tourture myself with those.
:cool:

[gymwidow]

Well, I'm out for the month. AF arrived this morning, after only a 9-day LP. I'm emailing my RE to let him know and to schedule my CD3 bloodwork for next month. I really didn't want to have to go back there for the whole series of pokings and proddings again.

DH brought up IUI this morning (I was already feeling that AF was coming on and was quite depressed about it, and he mentioned it as an option), so I know it's on his mind. I will let him make the decision about whether to go forward with that or try another Clomid-only cycle.

I probably won't be around much today; I just don't have the heart for the FP boards.

I hope you guys all have really good weekends. :)

[julesp313]

Gymwidow - I'm so sorry to hear that you're out... Definitely get in touch with your RE and see what he wants to do for the next cycle. I know that a short LP isn't good but also that things can be done to improve it. And it's great that your DH is open to the idea of IUI - that might give you just that little extra chance that you need for next month to have the outcome we all hope for!

Me - brrrr! It got windy here in Missouri last night and now it's officially DAMN cold. My boobs are aching because of it (always used to happen when I would go skiing - it's painful!). Can't wait to get back to Vegas tonight and defrost myself! :)

[DallasLady]

gymwidow Sorry about AF showing so soon! I have heard of clomid being used to extend LPs, maybe your RE will suggest that.

~~~~~
I went in this morning for a beta. I should get my results around 2pm this afternoon. I suppose staring at the clock doesn't help it come any sooner :)

[purplesunshine7]

hi ladies,
I just wanted to thank everyone for their support on my last post. thanks for the info on welbritrim(MS). Sorry af came to all who didn't want to see her. Keeping fingers crossed for your beta # dallas, good luck:) GYM sorry you're feeling down, I hope you feel better soon.

I am on CD7 and feeling ok I guess.

[katmg]

DH and I got to his RU appt. this afternoon and get back his SA results, ultrasound and bloodwork. Luckily we're both able to take the rest of the day off after the appt. so we plan on going home and opening up the bar. I have a feeling we're going to need it.

I'll try to pop in after the appt. and update my stats with his results. We know there's a problem with his sperm count - we're hoping for some sort of "easy fix" to that.

[marteneym]

Gymwidow Sorry AF found you/ {{{HUGS}}}

Looks like I panicked over nothing. That is what I get for temping one day. My temp dropped back down today. Looks like we are still waiting for O and our IUI #2.

[polkadot]

add my name back to the list ladies...i got my 2nd beta results today and they dropped from Wednesday. My dr. says i should see AF in the next few days...:( :( :(

i will see ya'll when we start trying again

[Lucy Van Pelt]

Polkadot - I am so so sorry!

[knoelani]

polka~ I'm really sorry to hear that. Please take good care of yourself.

[CTs_Punkin]

Giovanna Crossing all things crossable for your beta results today!! Hope you post them for us :)

Polka {{{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}} Sorry to hear about your CP... You're in my thoughts.

MarteneyM Good luck with your 2nd IUI!! Sending you BFP vibes...

Gymwidow Sorry about AF :(

Jules Safe Travels!!!

[katmg]

polkadot - I'm so sorry about the beta results. I'll keep you in my thoughts.

Dr. Visit update - We met with DH's RU and got his testing results. There was good news and not so great news. Good news - ultrasound was normal and y chromosome was normal. Count was up from last test (5 mil.) to 49 million. Not so Great news - Count is still not spectacular. Motility is not so great and DH has anti-sperm antibodies which cause clumping and reduce the motility. Testosterone is borderline low.
Moving forward, we are going to try to increase the testorsterone and reduce the anti-sperm antibodies - DH has vitamins/supplements to take and prednisone and maybe something else I can't remember. I am going to start taking my clomid next cycle and we'll try timed intercourse with both of us, hopefully, at increased fertility levels. We shall see.

Questions: Has anyone else's DH dealt with the anti-sperm antibodies? I was curious what the treatment recommended was.

[marteneym]

Polkadot- I am so sorry! {{{HUGS}}}

CTs- Thanks!

Still a negative opk. If i stay in pattern with the last 2 cycles I should get a positive tomorrow or Sunday.

Have a great weekend.

[ag05]

Polkadot - I am so sorry.

MSH and Giovanna - Congratulations to both of you!

Gymwidow - Sorry about AF.

[Patience]

Gymwidow: Sorry AF showed up. I'm starting to feel crampy myself so I'm pretty sure AF will be visiting me this weekend.

Polkadot: I'm so sorry. Please take care.

marteneym: Best of luck for IUI #2!

katmg: I don't have the answer to your question, but I do hope the treatment that the doctor suggested will work. My acupuncturist has me taking extra vitamin/supplements because of my anovulatory cycles and delayed ovulation. It seems to be working for me so far. Keep us posted on your DH's progress.

Thanks Gymwidow, julesp313, and DallasLady for your support. I guess I just got into one of those "woe is me" moods the other day. But I'm better now. Well, I hope everyone has a great weekend.

[julesp313]

Polkadot - so sorry to hear the beta news... :(
Kat - sounds like you have a game plan following the test results. I've not heard of anti-sperm antibodies so I'm curious to know if anyone else has.

Me - back from Missouri for a day and a half. Tomorrow I fly up to Twin Falls, Idaho, where it's snowing. Apparently it wasn't cold enough in Kansas City, the firm thinks I should be colder! Hmph. I'm also spotting now so I'm hopeful that AF will show today or tomorrow and we can officially put this M/C cycle behind us. Ironic that in a TTC thread, I'm rooting for AF to show... :rolleyes:

[Nigellas]

Gah! Cramps already, again… Last month AF cramps started a WEEK before AF came, and it looks like the same this month too. Not only does it suck, and is painful, but it makes me worried for something else being wrong with me. I just read on Web MD "Cramping that starts 5 to 7 days before menstruation begins is not typical for most women and may be caused by a problem such as endometriosis or an ovarian cyst." Fabulous...
:(

[katmg]

Hmm...well I've done a little research on the anti-sperm antibodies and it sounds like it typically happens in men who have had some sort of surgery down there. Not true in our case, so I wonder what caused it.

I thought I was going to start today b/c I had some very, very faint spotting last night, but today - nothing. I'm anxious about starting because coordinating DH's and my medicines with my ovulation is a bit tricky. It'd be nice to delay AF for a few more days!

[gymwidow]

Hi ladies. Happy Monday to all. I hope everyone who has the day off today is making the most of it!

Last night was rough for me. We were having dinner with some good friends and they announced that they are pregnant with their 2nd baby. We weren't even sure they would ever have another - our friend was so physically ill throughout her first pregnancy that she often has said she didn't think she could ever go through it again. So, with that and also the fact that their DD is only 18 months old, I was not expecting that news and it hit me like a ton of bricks. I kept it together till we got out of the restaurant and then cried a bit on the way home while DH held my hand and kept reassuring me that our turn will come soon. :(

Anyway, I had my CD4 bloodwork done today (since yesterday was a weekend) and am all set for another cycle. My doctor is upping my dosage of Clomid to 100mg to try and strengthen my O this month. DH and I decided yesterday that we are going to go ahead and do IUI this month. Honestly, I just don't see why we need to wait when it's a very minimally invasive procedure, is covered by my insurance, and hopefully will just serve to increase our chances of getting pg. We're not in a rush, and we've only been really trying for 2 months with the help of the drugs, but why wait, you know? This roller coaster of emotions every month is very taxing, and if we can make it end sooner rather than later, I want off! I'm glad my doc is supportive of it and that DH agreed so readily when I asked him to.

So, I go in next Thursday, CD14, for an u/s to check my follie growth and get my HCG trigger and then on Friday we'll do the IUI. In the meantime, we wait. The fun part. Hmph. :rolleyes:

polkadot, I am so sorry! We're cycle buddies this time, so hopefully we'll end up together with true BFPs that stick!

Jules, DallasLady, marteneym, CTs Punkin, ag05, & Patience, thanks. I can't wait for AF to be gone so I can really focus on the next part of the cycle.

katmg, I'm sorry the results weren't better, but glad that you have a treatment plan! I hope it works perfectly and you get good news soon!

Hi to everyone else! :)

[polkadot]

I am so sorry! We're cycle buddies this time, so hopefully we'll end up together with true BFPs that stick

i hear you 100%...i hope you get your sticky baby this month...i wish my dr was as supportive as yours...she just said sometimes this happens...try for 3 more months if it doesnt work...then come back and see me....UGHHH:mad:

i really wish she would at least do blood work....

Anyway, YEah for us being cycle buddies everyone can use a cheerleader!!!;)

[julesp313]

I'm freezing my ASS off up here in northern Nevada... it's 24 degrees and the snow on the ground ain't melting. BRRRR! On a happier note, AF showed up in full force this morning so we're onto the next cycle and can TTC again! Yay for us. ;)

[marteneym]

Nigellas Sorry about the cramps. Are you going to see the doctor to see if something else could be going on.

Gymwidow I am sorry you took your friends news so hard. I have been through that 5times in the last 6weeks. I know how hard it is. {{{HUGS}}}

JulesYay for AF(sounds so funny to say). Good luck ofiicially TTC again.

Post from hournal: Nothing very new. Still negative OPK's. My cervix seems to have dropped again and is very low and firm. CM is not ew at all. Very thick creamy(sorry TMI). I am starting to think more and more that I may have O'ed last week. My bbs are tender today. That normally only happens for me after O. I will do the last 6 opk's I have and then if no positive, AF or a BFP(not likely) will be due within a few days. We will see what happens. I almost don't want to waste the OPK's but I would hate to miss it if it is still coming. I am cd22 now. It would be my latest O on 100mg yet.

[suzfuzsunflower]

katmg - I hope that AF stayed away so that you could coordinate the meds. :)

gymwidow - It's good that you have a plan for this cycle. Good luck with the IUI.

julesp - Yay for AF :D So glad that you can start trying again.

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Today is my second day of clomid. No side effects so far....kind of makes we wonder if it's working.

I didn't have to go to work today, so I went to buy a wedding present and a baby shower gift (2nd shower in 2 weeks). Went to BRUS. I swear, I have never cried or teared up before in the store, but did today. Gosh, I feel pathetic. I wish that I was more content with where I am at.

Have a good week everyone.

[Hangin'in]

Today is my second day of clomid. No side effects so far...kind of makes we wonder if it's working.

I didn't have to go to work today, so I went to buy a wedding present and a baby shower gift (2nd shower in 2 weeks). Went to BRUS. I swear, I have never cried or teared up before in the store, but did today. Gosh, I feel pathetic. I wish that I was more content with where I am at.

Have a good week everyone.

Emphasis is mine.... sounds like a clomid side effect to me, just ask my DH! Good luck with that... I hope you never have to take it again!

[tigerest]

nigellas - :( I am sorry to hear about your cramping and what I am gonna say prob won't help. I used to be the same way. Terrible cramps....1 week before...then 2 weeks before. It got to the point I had terrible cramps 3 weeks out of every month. I started acupuncture and that helped imensely with the pain, while doing acu. I only had severe pain one day a month. Anyway, it turned out that I had a cyst and endo. I am not saying you do....but just make sure the Dr's listen to you if it gets worse or too bad....cuz it took me about 3 Dr's before anyone even paid attention to me. Good luck and I hope it goes away soon.

Polkadot - I am so sorry. Wishing you lots of luck and a sticky BFP soon!

gymwidow - I am sorry about your friends news. Sounds like me every time I hear someone announce. It is always hard.

suz - I am sorry you have to go to all these showers. Jeesh! You are brave. I stopped going to most.

marteneym - Sorry about your confusing O. :(

jules - Yay for a new cycle.

Thinking of all of you....

[suzfuzsunflower]

Emphasis is mine.... sounds like a clomid side effect to me, just ask my DH! Good luck with that... I hope you never have to take it again!

Hmmm....I hadn't thought of that.

[gymwidow]

Good morning all. CD5 here and just waiting. I started 100mg of Clomid last night. AF is already gone = yay! One thing I like about these medicated cycles is that AF has been shorter and lighter than ever before. It's great! :D

polkadot, I'm sorry your doc isn't being more proactive. My OB/GYN was like that; thank goodness I'm at the RE now! Did you ask her about doing bloodwork?

Jules, yay, that's great news (for once)!

marteneym, thanks. Hopefully we'll both be sharing our good news with our friends soon. I'm sorry your cycle is so hard to interpret this time. I hope you get a clear answer about that O soon!

suzfuz, thanks. I'm a little nervous about the IUI, but very hopeful that it will help us. I think I'm more worried about another short LP and hoping that I don't have to fight with my RE to get supps. I just don't want to take any chances, you know?!

[marteneym]

My temp is up today. I think the temp I took last week that was back down may have been due to my earlier temping time. A few more days will tell. Everything is pointing to O already happenning.

[jjsanner]

Hi ladies. We had our first RE appointment yesterday. We met with the nurse practicioner and went over all the tests that we'll be doing. As I suspected, I missed the CD3 bloodwork this cycle. But the good news is that they got me in for the HSG today at 1:30PM so that the bloodwork will be the last test, and we're on target to have a plan for next cycle.

Those that have had HSG's, what should I expect? Is it really painful? I'm a nervous wreck and I didn't sleep a whole lot last night. Just waiting and hoping to get it over with as soon as possible. I'm supposed to come back here to work, so hopefully I won't be feeling too terrible.

[katmg]

jj - that's great that your doctor can get you in so quickly for testing! Hopefully things will be all ready to go next cycle. I can't help you on the HSG as I have not had one.

[skb]

jj There is a thread that discusses HSG experiences in family planning. The women generally seem to report it as "menstrual cramping." My experience could hardly be described as cramps but I seem to be in the minority. I did work immediately afterwards and was fine. Also, I will have a follow-up HSG next month and plan to attend. You will be fine!!!

question Anybody taking estrogen as part of HRT find their "ovaries" to be quite tender? I've been taking premarin the past 9 days and my right, I'll say "ovary" feels like a stich, tender.

Sorry to those who are having difficulties with birth announcements and showers. I'll add mine.....waiting for SIL to deliver *twins* anytime. I've spent many hours in the "everything baby department." Endless discussions...breastfeeding, names, ultrasound, dr appointments...endless shopping and nursery prep. She's even asked me to be in the delivery room. It goes on and on but you get the picture.

All I can say is.....my time will come and so will yours!!!

[gymwidow]

jjsanner, I'm glad you had a good appt! I'm not sure if you'll see this before your HSG, but here's my experience: unfortunately, it hurt. I wish I could say it didn't (I know it didn't hurt that much for a few girls on here, and I definitely am a wuss when it comes to pain). I felt a sharp pain when they inserted the catheter, and then again each time they shot the dye in. I had taken two Advil an hour before, but if I had to do it again, I'd double that. I hope yours isn't bad at all!

skb, many hugs to you.... I hope all goes well and it's not too tough to get through.

[Hangin'in]

jjsanner You will probably already be done when you read this... but it hurt like an SOB. I about came up off the table. I think I had some blockage over my cervix , inside my uterus... because after it became unblocked it was not so bad... but OMG! My RE gave me an RX for pain medication... darvocet, so, I should have taken one before I went in. I did not go back to work... I went home and took my drugs and went to sleep... I did cramp for several days afterwards.

[Elenna]

Hi ladies. We had our first RE appointment yesterday. We met with the nurse practicioner and went over all the tests that we'll be doing. As I suspected, I missed the CD3 bloodwork this cycle. But the good news is that they got me in for the HSG today at 1:30PM so that the bloodwork will be the last test, and we're on target to have a plan for next cycle.

Those that have had HSG's, what should I expect? Is it really painful? I'm a nervous wreck and I didn't sleep a whole lot last night. Just waiting and hoping to get it over with as soon as possible. I'm supposed to come back here to work, so hopefully I won't be feeling too terrible.

I just got back from having my HSG an hour ago. I was very nervous before it, too. I took 600mg of Advil before hand to help with the pain. Even with that it was still a bit painful. The most painful part was the actual injection of the dye. But it didn't last more than a minute or two. Good luck! It really isn't that bad.

I took the whole day off from work so I'm back home now. I'm not having any pain, just a tiny bit of cramping. I can feel fluids still leaving.

Threadmistress, can you update my stats to HSG: normal and all clear. Thanks!

[Elenna]

For all those who've had an HSG: How long and how much did you bleed after your HSG?

I ask because I'm bleeding heavy enough that it is just like AF. I'm wondering if it is normal.

[katmg]

Thought I would try to give everyone an afternoon funny courtesy of my mother.

She just emailed me with the following sage advice:

DH should wear boxers (for better body temp) Sorry if that's too nosy.

Thanks mom. We're going to see a reproductive urologist. DH is on medication to try to reduce the number of anti-sperm antibodies. We've NEVER heard that boxer shorts have anything to do with fertility. :rolleyes: She followed that one up with a reminder that hot tubs are also bad. Thanks mom, think we have this one under control. :D

[jjsanner]

Thanks to everyone who replied to my HSG questions. I'm now back at the office, and it wasn't that bad at all. I cramped some when they inserted the catheter and again when he injected the dye, but nothing unbearable. I couldn't see the screen at all. He (the doc) did say that one tube was clear, but the needed to look at the film for the other side. That makes me a little nervous. And he said "so, you've had other children?" I was like "yeah, my son is 2" and he said nothing. Not quite sure what that means.

[suzfuzsunflower]

For all those who've had an HSG: How long and how much did you bleed after your HSG?

I ask because I'm bleeding heavy enough that it is just like AF. I'm wondering if it is normal.

I had spotting after my HSG for about a day. I'm not sure if heavy bleeding is normal....I would call my doctor and ask.

[Elenna]

Thanks Suzfuzsunflower for responding. An hour after I posted it had slowed down to just spotting. Its still bright red, but much, much less. I'm hoping that means the bleeding has stopped and all I'll get now is spotting.

[skb]

Now that jjis back...............

This one always gets me....who on earth really would deascribe that as, "mild cramps similar to menstrual cycle cramps." Whatever! A more extensive description of my experience can be found on the HSG experience thread. I honestly found my surgery less painful ***drugs*** You can imagine how thrilled I am to have to go back for a second HSG given my new enlightenment. I did make mention of my enthusiasm to my doc who assured me that the second one would be easier. His reasoning is that it would require less dye and therefore be less painful. The first time involved more fluid/dye to observe how rapidly it spills out of the fallopian tubes. The second time will require enough fliud/dye to visualize the uterine cavity. Yeah well....all I can say is *drugs* My doc is not volunteering them so I will be hitting my family doc up for something good!

Secondly....what is it with doctors and their one liners that throw us into tail spins until we can clarify what the heck they mean. Following my HSG my doc said, "shouldn't be a problem getting you pregnant, the problem will be keeping you pregnant." Thanks for that....and you're overlooking the fact that I haven't been able to get pregnant. At which point I asked to see the monitor and could see my uterine abnormality. He says bicornuate or septate and sends me home to ponder the difference until my next follow-up appointment. The internet is a wonderful and dangerous source of info. The days between my HSG and follow-up appointment were filled with examining the world of uterine abnormalities. Yipee.

jjI hope both your tubes come back clear.

[Hangin'in]

I bled heavily for about 3 days.... my experience was truly awful.

[polkadot]

Hi ladies...well af is slowly leaving...and i have to say that this m/c was not at all what i expected. I thought it would have been much worse...it was really just like any other period I have had...i had a little more cramping than usual but it wasnt too bad. and for that I am VERY grateful. I am doingbetter about the whole thing and am praying that we get PG very soon...and that this one will be a sticky....

I had to cancel my subscribtion to BabyCenter b/c htey sent me an email with weekly updates and I couldnt take that....but other than that..i am ok...as soon as AF is gone...we are on to baby making once again and I cant say that DH is complaining about it either....also i have preseed and instead cups on the way...anyone use either?

later girls

[tigerest]

skb - Well put! I would definitely say my surgeries were much easier than my HSG's!

Elenna - I bled for a week, almost like having a full period.

jj - Sorry about the doc not giving you more info than that. But glad the pain wasnt too bad.

katmg - HA! THat is funny. I know people try to be helpful, but they just don't realize how internet savvy we are! ;)

Things are going smoothly with me so far. I have 6 nice follies growing. DH gave my first shot tonight. I think it was more emotionally upsetting than anything....no pain whatsoever, just fear. :p I am a wimp.

[papergirl]

I’m at work and don’t have much time for shout outs but I wanted to say:

Polkadot: My heart took a deep sigh when I read your post about the negative test result at the doctors’ office. I am thinking of you.

Dallas Lady: I know your road to a BFP has been long and I am so thrilled for you. Congratulations!!

MSH: So much good news that I can’t stop smiling. Congratulations!! I am sending you sticky vibes.

Many of you have been discussing your RE visits and it’s so helpful to read along. Thank you for sharing your stories.

Yesterday I had my RE visit and I need some input. I am seeing a very prominent doctor here in NY. After reading over my questions and discussing my cycles he diagnosed me with PCOS. He then did an ultrasound to check my uterus and confirm his diagnoses. No other tests were done. Here is my thing, many of the symptoms that people with PCOS have are not things I experience. I have long cycles that flocculate in length and heavy bleeding. I am overweight and carry my weight in my mid section. However I do not have excess hair or hair loss. I also ovulate (or I think I do). I chart and there is a clear jump in temps, which stay high till AF comes. He also said that my m/c could have been due to the PCOS and may explain why there is a high rate of m/c in my family. When I got home I read about a lot of test that doctors perform to diagnose you, none that were done on me. Should I take this to mean my doctor who specializes in IF knows so much about this that he can spot and diagnose this easily OR should I question that maybe he isn’t doing his job thoroughly?? I’m thinking positive but wanted some input. He did prescribe me Metformin.

DH is going for a SA on Monday. He said more then likely there is not a sperm issue since we did get pregnant (but m/c) but they won’t say for sure till DH does his thing. I will also do an HSG and CD3 bloodwork. If I am not pregnant my March then we will move on to a new plan. So I am hopeful and I have to admit it feels nice to have someone tell me what the problem is (might be) and that there is a plan to help me achieve pregnancy.

Any thoughts or advice on all this would be great.

In other news.. my due date (had I not m/c) was this weekend. I did much better then I thought. I cried every day last week but when the 14th hit I think I was cried out and I haven't cried since. With the RE appointment I feel more hopeful then I have in a long time. I don't expect a BFP in the next few months but it's great to know that there is something that can maybe help me on this journey. At this point I just want to maintain some happiness with all that is going on.


Of course, all the best to you ladies. I hope we get some more BFP's soon.

Threadmaster, please update my states as such:

Me – 30
DH - 33
Married – 8.31.03
Charting – 1.05
TTC – 4.05
Off BCP - years
Issues - impatient-ness trying for 9 months
m/c in June 05 @ 8wks
diagnosed with PCOS 1.17.06

[papergirl]

Will the Metformin make me O sooner? I do already ovulate. Or should I expect to O around the same time but possibly be more fertile?

[tigerest]

bumble - I don't know that much about PCOS. But one of my first Dr's did an U/S once and told me I had it. My only sign is that I have multiple follicles all the time. But if you know of tests that can be done just ask for them. Not like you're questioning him, but just tell him you would like these additional tests just so you can get the whole picture. I do it all the time and my RE is very accomidating. Also, I think the CD 3 blood work will tell you more. And you can ask for a CD 21 (7DPO) blood work also to confirm your O. But it sounds like you are on the right track! Sorry about your due date.

[papergirl]

tiger - see the thing is that at this point i don't really feel the need to question the RE or even request more test BUT i'm wondering if i should. the internet is a great tool but it can also be too much, you know? you can read too much and begin to over think things. i guess i'm just wondering if other people have been diagnosed PCOS based on a few details and ultrasound or are most people tested.

don't mind me. i think i am all over the place with this.

[knoelani]

Bumble~ I think it's ok to question the dx and you're doing the right thing by wanting more information, especially when it comes to additional medication that is prescribed. You can have all, none, or some of the symptoms of PCOS and still have the syndrome. I'm not a dr, but from my understanding the name really came from the "tell-tale" sign of mutliple little follicles or cysts in a particular shape / pattern around your ovaries. Those can also be there without having the full blown syndrome though. Your body, in most cases, naturally develops mutliple follies through the first part of your cycle and one hopefully becomes the dominate one that you ovulate. There are other aspects of it though, such as your testosterone (sp) levels, LH levels, and other hormones and how they interact with each other and your body. The Metformine has been shown to help with the syndrome, and how you process certain hormones, but it's also carries with it not so pleasant side effects (in some cases).
My regular obgyn dx me with PCOS and immediatley put me on Met, which I took for about two to three cycles. When I went to the RE, she said it wasn't necessary and took me off the Met, saying that I had about 80% of the symptoms, but she didn't think I had the full blown syndrome. We've taken a break from everything the last couple of cycles, but when I go back in the next week or so, I plan on doing all of the blood work again to either confirm or rule out PCOS.
I would suggest that if you want additional testing / confirmation, don't be afraid to ask for it. Yes, he is the expert, but your peice of mind and comfort level with the dx is the most important things, and as an expert, he should understand that and be willing to help ease your concerns.

tiger~ glad the shot wasn't too bad! I'm a wimp too and am dreading it if we have to go there. DH on the other hand says "Sure, no problem, just give the needle to me and I'll jam it in you!" :rolleyes:

ETA: I'm not an expert on PCOS either, the above is just what I remember from when I had the same questions and the books I read, there are a lot of ladies around here I'm sure would be happy to help with info and personal stories with better info than I have.

[gymwidow]

Threadmistress, please update my stats under "treatment" to include "1/05: 100 mg Clomid". Thanks!

Boring CD6 here. Waiting for my u/s next Thursday. I hate this part of the cycle when I can't DO anything. Other than BD for fun. ;)

Elenna, I bled for about 6 days. But I was having other issues with extended bleeding then.

katmg, ha. Have you told DH about your mother's interest in his underwear choices? :rolleyes:

skb, yeah, mild cramping was nowhere near a good description of the intense shooting searing pain I felt (I toned it down for jj before hers; didn't want to frighten her too much). I'm so sorry you have to have another. Definitely get some drugs, or have someone just knock you on the head with a bat beforehand. I'd rather have been asleep!

polkadot, I'm glad you're feeling better and ready to get pg again!

tigerest, not wimpy, very brave!!!

bumble, what doc are you seeing in NY? I was diagnosed with PCOS through blood tests and u/s. I had no other symptoms at all, other than a couple of long cycles like yours (which actually are a symptom of PCOS). My blood work showed that I had not ovulated and the u/s showed a ring of cysts lining each of my ovaries.

According to my RE, temperatures are NOT that accurate for reporting O in women with hormonal imbalances. Because our hormone levels are always out of whack, we can see differing results than are typical in "normal" charting. I had the opposite situation as you - 2 months ago I knew I had O'd because my 7DPO blood work showed it, but my temps had not gone up! Also, for the same reasons, OPKs are not always accurate to predict impending O.

It's good that you're getting the rest of the tests done. That will tell you for sure whether you are or are not ovulating regularly. It is possible for women with PCOS to ovulate on their own, but just not with regularity. Good luck! :)

[tigerest]

bumble - Its ok, sometimes we just need to talk this stuff through.

knoelani - OMg, thats exactly how my DH was. And even last night too. I know he was joking, but it didn't help. Men! But in the end he made me close my eyes because he said he couldnt do it with me staring at him. :p

gymwidow - Thanks. Ya with OPK's its tough. Sometimes I get 3 Blazing + OPK's. It makes it hard to tell when your gonna O.

[kazata]

I'm finally taking the plunge and joining this group. I was a member of TTC with charting way back at WC, and when WC died and CC emerged, I took it as an opportunity to step away from the family planning groups because I was becoming way too obsessive. I've been in denial for a long time and never wanted to join SAI b/c I kept thinking surely I'd get my BFP that month and that would just be mean to all of you. But, here I am, still no BFP and I finally went to the RE last week to start testing. The RE appointment was very emotional for me as it was almost like me coming to terms with that something may be wrong. Now that I'm going through testing, I think I could use the extra support of this thread. I hope to check in frequently, but I hope you'll forgive me if I need to take a step back at times.

Here are my stats:

Kazata
Me: 32
DH: 32
Charting and off BCP since March '04
TTC since July '04
Issues: Went to the ER twice with ovarian cysts. Cycles on the short side.
Testing: RE appt. on Jan. 11, 2006. Scheduled ultrasounds to verify ovulation. DH to do SA. If all ok, HSG next cycle.

The RE seemed concerned with the fact that I've landed in the ER twice in the past two years for ovarian cysts and that my cycles can be as short as 24 days. (range from 24 to 30 days). Although charting shows biphasic patterns and I've had positive OPK's, he thinks I may have Luteinized Unruptured Follicle Syndrome, where the egg does not actually release, despite everything seeming like you are ovulating. So, this month I am doing repeat ultrasounds starting on CD10 to confirm whether or not I am ovulating. (He did not order the standard blood tests on the rationale that they won't show LUFS). DH is also doing a SA. If those check out, next month I will have an HSG.

Phew. Sorry for the long-winded introduction!

[SAI Ladies]

WELCOME Kazata!!

Hope your stay here is short and sweet!!

[thedoorchick]

Hello all. Just wanted to poke my head in. Sorry I have not been around much, I kind of took this whole cycle off. DH was sick at the right "time" and we just missed it entirely, and I have to say I didn't take it too hard because I have big doubts about being able to get pg on my own anyway. I have kind of enjoyed not having to monitor things or really do anything at all, even though every cycle we go with nothing happening is that much more frustration at having to wait longer.

This cycle should end in a week or so, and assuming I don't have another cyst, I'll be set to start another IUI cycle next week. I believe he wants to put me on Femara and three days of injectables.

[katmg]

kazata - I know the feeling. I kept thinking, surely next month we'll be pg. I'd hate to join and then get pg right away. Didn't happen for me, but hopefully it will for you!

[gator97]

Kazata- Welcome. This is a thread full of very supportive and knowledgeable ladies. I understand the hesitation to join. We've just started with an RE and there is a loss there. .. you have to grieve getting pregnant "the old fashioned way".

katmg-I laughed out loud at your mom's suggestions. There is a sweet side to think that is all you have to do. Wow. . if only we had thought of that.

tiger--so good to hear the shot wasn't too bad. I was explaining the process of IVF to my DH (clueless) and he was appalled that he might have to give me shots. He'd rather have me drive to his brother's house an hour away b/c he is a PA. Umm.. . I don't think so.

bumble--sorry that I can't help with PCOS or with Metformin. But I do think that if you have any question in your mind, you ask for more tests.

As for me, we are trudging along. 7DPO bloodwork confirmed O but my progesterone was low. So, we have to make a consult to discuss Letrozole (Femara) and another med that the RE wants to put me on. She didn't spell it but it sounded like"avadril". I am guessing here. . .doesn't she know I'd like to look it up! Anyway, got the call too late to call and ask so I must wait until tomorrow. Anyone have any guesses? ETA: Found it---ovidril---would you do an HCG trigger without IUI? They didn't say anything about IUI.

I'm annoyed b/c they can't seem to find my initial bloodwork. It's been 2 weeks and I don't have results!

DH's SA is on Friday. I'm hoping for good results---not just b/c we need them fertility wise but I worry about DH being able to handle poor results. I think it might crush him.
I know I don't post much but I do appreciate lurking here. It's so nice to hear that others are feeling the same things I am. There are some days that I feel like I'm slowly going insane. My poor DH.

[suzfuzsunflower]

Welcome Katzata!

So after thinking that I had no side effects from clomid, I now think that I most certainly do. I haven't slept well the last few nights (not sure if it's from this), and also I just feel kind of blue/depressed. The last two days have been very dark, and I just feel like I'm in a funk. Could these things (sleep and sadness) because of the clomid?

***hoping that the clomid works b/c I really don't want to take it again!***

[skb]

tiger Grow follies, grow!!!

kazata Welcome aboard. Reading your post...I've landed in the ER twice on account of cysts and have 26 day cycles like clock work. I had 1 ultrasound that showed signs of ovulation. Hmmm...my doc never mentioned a thing about Luteinized Unruptured Follicle Syndrome. Keep us posted...I'll be interested to hear.

Here's to next month!!!

[thedoorchick]

suz, clomid is the devil, it made me crazy. I was so on edge, it was ridiculous. My poor husband. The side effects go away quickly once you're done, though, but those few days are not fun.

[kazata]

Threadmistress Thanks for the warm welcome - is that you, CT's Punkin? *waving*

katmg Glad I'm not the only one who kept putting off joining. Hopefully we'll all be out of here soon...

gator97 Thanks for the welcome. That's a good way of putting it, it is like "grieving" getting pregnant the old-fashioned way. Even though there might be easy fixes (say if it's an ovulation problem), it's emotional to think your body is not cooperating.

suzfuzsunflower Thanks for the welcome.

skb Hmmm. That's interesting that you've also been to the ER twice for cysts. Were they around O time? Although, if your ultrasound showed signs of O, then I wouldn't worry too much, according to my RE, ultrasound is the only way to tell for sure whether you've O'd (and released the egg). Also, I'm not sure about the possible LUFS diagnosis...it seems like it's questionable whether it even exists, and if so, whether it occurs only rarely or every cycle....but I'll just wait and see what the ultrasound shows before getting worked up about that.


So, CD10 is on Monday Jan. 23, and I have my ultrasound scheduled for the morning. I've been temping this month and so far my temps are pretty wacky (lots of high temps in there), so hopefully this isn't just a wacky month for me.

[Alioop12345]

Good luck to all testers: Quick update on me... CD 12...This cycle I'm on Viagra, Estradial, Gonal F and wil ltake HcG and Progesterone at the appropriate times. I had an U/S and bloodwork yesterday. I had 10 follies the largest was 16X15 and my lining was 8.... I go in tomorrow for another U/S to see if I am ready to trigger.

Here's my question...FF says I have O'd....Comments?

Here's the link...TIA

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/ttc/index.php Hope that works....

[amychris03]

gator97
I did injectables and hcg trigger without IUI, and I've known several
girls on Clomid that also do the trigger shot. I guess it is just more
of a guarantee that you will O when they want you to. HTH!

[polkadot]

alioop -the link you have in your post goes to my chart....that is very weird...i thought we might have been cycle buddies but then i looked at the notes on today and its def. my chart....we need to get that fixed....;)

i see if i can figure it out....

:confused:

[papergirl]

polkadot and alioop: when i click on the link it takes me to a page to log in to ff. i think it takes you (polkadot) to your chart because the link just takes you to ff and you are probably loged in = your chart. if other people click the link and they have a chart on ff and are loged in they will then see their chart. does that make sense? but i am not able to see someone elses (ie: polkadot).

[polkadot]

ok thanks bumble...i was wondering how that was working....now biggie...i just want to be able to see alioop's chart....

thanks again

[Alioop12345]

Trying again to post MY chart....http://www.fertilityfriend.com/ttc/chartgraph_module.php?d=2006-02-04&mode=a&ts=1137698347

[kazata]

alioop When you are logged in under menu on the left hand side go to "sharing" then "home page setup" at the top of the page it will show you "your web page address" copy and paste.

ETA: I think we cross-posted - but your updated attempt still takes me to my chart. I think if you are logged in and try to use the address that is in your browser for your chart, it won't let others view it b/c they are not logged in as you, so you need to get the specific address they provide for "sharing" your chart. Hope that helps!

[polkadot]

When you are logged in under menu on the left hand side go to "sharing" then "home page setup" at the top of the page it will show you "your web page address" copy and paste

that should work....if not let us know and we can try and figure it out....:)

[CTs_Punkin]

Well, went in for my baseline U/S before doing the clomid challenge and they found a 2.5cm cyst on my left ovary and another small one on my right side...

So no clomid challenge for me this month. I have to wait and hope that it goes away after this cycle.

I'm beyond frustrated with my body right now. I can't f'ing O on my own, so I take clomid last month... I can't f'ing O on clomid either, but heck, I sure can grow cysts it seems... GRRRR...:mad:

Anyhow, just really sad and annoyed right now. It means that there is a good chance I won't be holding a little one in 2006... sigh....since this month is out, then if all goes well next month, I can do the clomid challenge and then after that, who knows, it depends on what the DR says about my blocked fallopian tube. I may need to get a LAP done too. So that puts me out at least 3 months I think...

Anyhow, don't think I'm going to temp this month... I mean, if I haven't O'd on my own for 9 months... why would I this month?? right??? and if we get lucky, we get lucky.

[polkadot]

Ct's punkin- I am so sorry that you are having to deal with this...it just plain sucks....but maybe not charting and jsut getting lucky will happen for you....I am not one to say just relax and it will happen so i will say let us all pray and hope really hard that you get a little miracle...i think we woudl like little miracles of our own....we are here for you to lean on and comiserate with....

hope you start feeling better soon....:)

[marteneym]

CTs I am sorry to hear about your cysts and lost cycle. Taking a month of charting might be good. I took thi s month off and I have been so much more relaxed. I know this counds crazy(you kow what my cycles used to be like), but I o'ed a week earlier than I should have this month. Maybe it will work for you. {{{HUGS}}}!

As I said above, I did ovulate. The last 2days were high temps. Looks like I am 8or9dpo based on cramps cd16(worse than normal for O) and a migraine cd17. It is nice to have the 2ww almost over and not even know it. I am been so much more relaxed this month. AF should come Tuesday or Wednesday or I will test Friday. I will be blown away if I get a BFP but you never know.

[CTs_Punkin]

Polkadot & Marteneym Thanks for thinking of me... I am better now... I think the shock of it all threw me for a loop. I guess I wasn't really expecting to have cysts - so it bummed me out. Haven't told DH yet that this month's a bust... although he will likely agree that it might be good to give it a break for a month and just go back to BD for fun... and who knows?? right?

Anyhow, thanks again for listening to my rant... I know there are a lot of women who are worse off than me, so I need to remember to count my many blessings & stay positive.

[Alioop12345]

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1d0d2or thanks for the help polkadot and kazataregarding posting my chart...here it goes again..... Sorry about the cysts CTspunkin, I had cysts last month and was really discouraged....Hang in there

OK...so any input on my chart would be appreciated. I go in at 11:30 for another U/S tomorrow to see if they will trigger....My RE told me that once you start taking Estradial, the hypothalamus shuts don't and prevents ovulation which is why I will get a trigger shot but FF thinks I O'd. Thanks!

[DallasLady]

CTs Taking a month of charting might be good. I took this month off and I have been so much more relaxed. I know this sounds crazy (you know what my cycles used to be like), but I o'ed a week earlier than I should have this month.

Taking a break from charting (or stopping altogether) can be so liberating! I felt like I got my sanity back. I O'd earlier also once I stopped charting. I just watched my CM and took OPKs when I saw eggwhite.

Just wanted to stop by and give some
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~BABYDUST*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
to everyone!

[tigerest]

CTs - I am sorry. That just sucks! I agree with everyone else, I was much happier the months I didn't chart. Who would think that charting would be so stressfull, but not charting helps you not think about it every second ya know. Good luck, and I hope those cyst go away quickly for you!

[skb]

I'm shooting for a baby in 2007!!! Yeah for 2007!!! Trying to sneak one in at the end of 2006 would be just a tad high pressure for me.

With that said, I've had a break from TTC sex for the past 3 cycles and possibly a 4th. What a relief. I've also had a break from charting for.....well a really long time. Only did it long enough to establish that I have a temp shift. Then my doc told me to throw it out. (Aside: 26 day regular cycles with ovulation). What a relief again!

So basically I'm just hanging out, trying to get my uterus sorted out and waiting for the go ahead from my doc.

It's been nice to take a step back from it all!!! (Well sort of minus the HSG, surgery, HRT, follow-up HSG etc.....)

ct I hope things will be better for you next cycle....

[kazata]

alioop I'm inclined to say that you have not O'd. FF is notorious for calling O's after a "pre-O dip" so it's probably just salivating over that dip you had on CD9. Although you do have 3 temps above what could be your coverline, HOWEVER, looking at your previous charts your "high" temps seem to jump higher than the 97.5 - 97.7 range, which is where you are at right now. So, since CD 9 would be an early O, and the temps aren't *that* high, I'd lean towards saying no.

[Alioop12345]

thanks for your response kazata

[ag05]

Quick update. Today is CD13 and I had an IUI today. I had 3 good follicles when I triggered on Tuesday so I'm pleased. The difference though in this IUI is that it hurt a bit and I bled afterwards. I didn't call the Dr. though so I hope its okay. I am happy with what the Follistim did for my CM and it moved my O up too. Now is the boring part I guess.

[ag05]

kazata - Welcome!

marteney - I really hope you get your BFP this cycle.

alioop - Good luck with your U/S. I know you must be excited.

doorchick - You and I might be doing a similar protocol so I'll be interested to see how yours goes. Good luck!

cts - Sorry to hear about the cysts.

gator - Hope you and DH get good SA results. Yes I did the ovidrel without IUI.

bumble - Good luck with your upcoming tests!

skb - Glad you are enjoying your sort of break. We definitely need those.

tigerest - crossing fingers for a sucessful cycle for you.

Well I just know I missed someone. Sorry if I did.

[cowgirl]

Boy I joined this thread and then have hardly been here.

I am thinking I may have o'd but will wait another 2 days for temps to call it for sure. I will try to be better.