2006 Still At It!

[Patience]

Congratulations ag05! :D

[julesp313]

Purple - congrats!
AG05 - congrats!

Man, it feels good to say that - we have had a low few weeks without a lot of good news, so being able to say two hearty congratulations makes me smile. Now, who's next? ;)

Suz - sorry to hear that you have decided to wait til next year, but at the same time, it's totally understandable. Life throws us all sorts of things that we never expect and we have to work things out - good luck with whatever the future brings!
Bumble - it sounds like you have things working out, with the RE visit coming up. Hopefully that'll give you answers and the help you need.

Me - I'm CD14, had a negative OPK yesterday but started getting EWCM this morning so I'm guessing either tomorrow or Wednesday will bring an O. Were covering our bases, but it's so hard to stay optimistic when so many of our attempts have failed. Still, I figure at least we only have a few more months of misery before we go to the RE for help, then we get to pay big bucks to be told we're not pregnant. Sheesh... :rolleyes:

[thedoorchick]

jules, hang in there and good luck. How is busy season treating you?

RE appt today. Had a few good follies. I go back on Wed. and maybe we will do the IUI on Friday. That seems soon though! It'll only be CD12! Ack.

[ag05]

Thanks everyone. I got my first beta back finally. Its at 54. I really don't know if thats good or not. I was 13 DPO by the way. So I'm eagerly awaiting my second beta results.
I go to the lab tomorrow and hopefully they call me on Wednesday. I tell you this is torturous. I am so worried.

[polkadot]

i understand completley....i have my fingers crossed for you....as long as it doubles you are A ok......sticky vibes and high betas to you,....

[ag05]

Thanks polka. Must distract myself

[DallasLady]

Just coming out of lurking to cheer you ladies on!! Congrats to the BFPs :D

I go back on Wed. and maybe we will do the IUI on Friday. That seems soon though! It'll only be CD12!

Thedoorchick The month I got pg I O'd earlier than normal, CD14 instead of my usual CD17.

[julesp313]

Emily - ironically, with busy season hours being officially over, I'm working longer days than ever! My client is filing their 10-K on Friday and we only just got a draft today, so I've got two staff frantically tying things out, the client is still doing adjustments, and I've got two partners and a senior manager from the Philly office out here, doing the consolidated portion. ARGH! :mad:

For those of you that think everything I just wrote is completely unintelligible, you're so lucky! :)

[knoelani]

jules Unfortunately, I did understand what you wrote, just from a little different perspective :) Good luck catching that eggie!

thedoorchick good luck on Wed and with the IUI later this week.

bumble Good luck with your upcomming RE appointment, I hope you find some answers there.

suz It must have been difficult to come to that decision, but you have to do what's best for ya'll. Good luck and hopefully when you get back on the train, things will go better.

Well today is CD1, I go in the morning for my baseline, Wed. for my injection lesson, and start the shots Wed. night. I'm pretty darn scared about it, but if that's what it takes we'll do it!

[thedoorchick]

For those of you that think everything I just wrote is
completely unintelligible, you're so lucky! :)
Isn't that the truth! ;)

[jjsanner]

Looks like we have some fellow CPA's here! I was in public accounting years ago now (I left in 2000) and I can't say that I miss the hours! I'm currently the Reporting Manager for a publicly traded company here in Phoenix. We're a 6/30 year-end, so I'm about to start our 3rd quarter Q! Jules, what firm are you with?

[julesp313]

My husband, the asshat, complained about being "forced" to have sex this morning. I told him no problem, next month he can just produce a sample himself and I'll have an expensive doctor get me knocked up with a turkey baster. ARGH! Putz. :mad:

Knoelani - I've only done public accounting, but I wonder if I'll be a nightmare client just like my client is being to me!
JJ - I work for EY. I actually really enjoy my job for the most part, but when the client slacks off and still expects us to file their 10-K on time, it frustrates me beyond belief. I vow when I leave public and go to industry, I won't become one of "those" clients... or at least I sure hope I don't become one of those clients! :)

[marteneym]

Congrats Purple and ag05!

Knoelani Sorry Af found you!

Sorry that I have been MIA girls. We took this month off chlomid and I needed a break emotionally. We have been charting again(since I was having 80day cycles per chlomid) and doing opk's though. I was getting ready to start my Provera today when I got a positive OPK Saturday. We bd'd Sat and Sun. My temp jumped Monday morning. FF is giving me Ch's for cd28 right now but when I put in one more high temp tomorrow it moves them to cd29 which is accurate. I am really quite surprised that I o'ed on my own. We are going to take one more month off chlomid/IUI if not pg. My body needs a break. I would love to get pg one of the next 2months on our own with no meds.
So I am 2dpo and waiting til 12dpo to test. I may not be back until then. Hope you are all doing well.

[thedoorchick]

Ah yes, the joys of clients not providing necessary information and still expecting you to pull a 10-K (or a tax return in my case) out of a hat!

[gymwidow]

Hi ladies. Sorry I haven't been around much. Busy at work, and I'm in the boring waiting part. 7DPO and no FPS at all. Which is normal. I'll test next Monday.

knoelani, I'm glad the lap went well and was successful. I'll be very interested to hear what goes in your injections class. Injectables are the next step for us if I'm not pg this cycle.

Asha, well, it wouldn't be at no cost, but he said he would help arrange it so it was affordable. I'm not quite sure what that means, but we'll take any help we can get. I can't believe it's taking this long for you to get your HSG results! I had mine the next day.

ag05, I am so excited for you!

suzfuz, I'm sorry that you'll be waiting till next year, but glad that you and DH are together on this and doing what's best for you both. Good luck!

bumble, I'm glad the Metformin is helping!

jules, optimism is good, but hard to come by. I'll dig some up for you and share!

thedoorchick, yay for good follies! I IUI'd on CD13 this month. If I'm not pg, it will be a VERY short cycle!

marteneym, that's so awesome that you O'd!!! I hope the natural way does the trick.

[thedoorchick]

Re: injectables, how significant is it to take the shot at the same time every day?

I usually do mine around 7:00. Well, I just got myself invited to dinner with some co-workers (and I really should go), and logistically it would be crazy for me to go home first because the restaurant is near my office but my office is 30 miles from home (up to an hour in traffic).

Will it mess everything up if I don't take the shot till 9 or 10?

[Cath]

Hi everyone -

I'm reading, and haven't had much to contribute. Congratulations Purple and ag!!!!

thedoorchick - my RE's office recommends giving yourself the shot within a half hour of a specific time each day. I've fudged that in the past when it wasn't avoidable, but on this one I never liked taking any risks, you know.

[Delaney21]

I've only done public accounting, but I wonder if I'll be a nightmare client just like my client is being to me!

When I was in public accounting I swore that when I went to public I would be really nice to my auditors because I understood what it was like and I hated how my clients treated me. Well that lasted about 2 months when I got to private accounting. Just wait, you'll probably be doing the same things to your auditors when you go private ;)

[jjsanner]

Delaney, ain't that the truth! PWC is the biggest pain in my arse. As a matter of fact, they are out here today, driving me crazy, trying to tie out numbers for an 8-K we are filing, and they are making this huge deal out of
$1K-2K rounding! I just want to shoot them sometimes!

I hope I'm not one of "those" clients. For any filing, I prepare a workpaper binder and make sure everything is ticked and tied before I give it to them. I have perfect workpapers :D .

[Tandis]

Mind if I join? We're going on two years of this, and I've tried the whole "going it alone" approach when I dropped out of the Charting group back in September, but, after going to hell and back and being unbearable to be around, I feel like I need to be among those that understand.


Me - 29 (30 in July)
DH - 31
Married- 4/26/03
TTC- 5/04
HSG- 9/04 tube clear
SA - 2/05 normal
Endometrial biopsy - 2/05 normal
RE - 3/05
IUI #1 - 5/05 50mg Clomid, trigger shot, failed
Laparoscopy - 5/05
IUI #2 - 7/05 50 mg Clomid, trigger shot, failed
IUI #3 - 8/05 50 mg Clomid, trigger shot, failed
Acupuncture - 11/05-1/06 (acupuncturist broke both of her hands, so I'm waiting for her to resume work) probably will go back in June 06
Known issues: one fallopian tube, one ovary (left side). Severe scar tissue, which RE partially removed in May
Currently trying: self massage, castor oil wraps, organic/natural foods, no dairy/cold foods (per acu. instructions)
FF chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/tandis)


My doctor gave me the "IVF is your only option" speech after my lap in May, and I listened to the sales pitch in September, which did nothing but make me extremely depressed. DH and I are both Catholic, so after much discussion and soul searching, we determined we can't go through with IVF. Heck, I had a hard enough time with IUIs for spiritual reasons.

In January/early February (around the same time as my last acu. appt.) I was late by three days for the first time ever. We allowed ourselves to get our hopes up - DH came home early for lunch so I could test on 14 dpo - both expecting to see a BFP. Unfortunately, it was not. I self diagnosed either an undetected CP, or a cyst. :( More than likely it was the latter as opposed to the former, as I do have a history of cysts.

We've been seriously discussing adoption since then, however, financial reasons will keep us from pursuing that option for at least five years.

In the meantime, I've taken up a new hobby. I'm going back to college in August to get a second degree - this time in accounting (which is ironic considering the latest discussion here). I already have a BA in English and a Masters in Library Science.

So that's me. :)

[knoelani]

Welcome Tandis! Good luck with the accounting degree and with the ttc journey.

Gym~ I'd fill ya in on the injection class, but it got canceled.

JJ, jules, and thedoorchick...unfortunately I have been one of those clients, major freak outs, but I have to admit it's kinda funny to have my whole company in a tizzy when EY & PWC comes in. Personally on my side of the world, I worry and stress a whole lot more when we're undergoing a SEC or NASD audit~ now those are NOT fun and have a lot more bearing on my professional career!

Well girls, I'm out for this cycle. I went in today for my baseline u/s and I have two cysts on my right ovary. We have to wait it out until next cycle and hope they go away or rupture. I'm really frustrated since I just had the lap and these appeared since then, but I guess there's nothing I can really do about it.

[julesp313]

7:05 and I'm still at work, though the client did just "treat" us to their lovely buffet - the perks of working in a casino. We should be out of here within the hour but considering the rain we've had all day, the traffic might be a nightmare so I don't mind staying a little late.

Gym - ah, the joy of the 2ww... :)
Emily - no help on the injectibles, I'm afraid...
Delaney - I've discovered that the worst clients are the ex-auditors - it's like we leave public and completely forget the hell we were put through by our clients. Or maybe we just figure it's time for revenge... ;)
JJ - my current client is very pleasant, just soooooo slooooooow. It's like pulling teeth to get schedules and explanations - I swear I don't ask questions just for the fun of it, but the way they act, you'd think I'm doing all this solely for my entertainment! Sheesh!
Tandis - welcome! It sounds like you've been through a lot - this is a really good place to be, with some great women and a lot of knowledge and advice and understanding. Are you sure you want to get into accounting? I'm sure we could share war stories that would turn you off... ;)
Knoelani - sorry that your cycle was canceled. Can I ask you something about cysts - do they hurt? I've been having some sharp pains around where I suspect my left ovary is (need medical text book), which started right before AF this cycle and started up again today, when I'm due to O. Was just wondering what the symptoms are, if you don't mind sharing.

Am off to crack the whip on my staff to get them to shut up and finish tying out this horrendously massive 10-K. Ah, I love auditing!

[Alioop12345]

Congrats purple and AG!!!!!


As for me... I had a BFN yesterday and today and my temps plummeted. I have injured my rotator cuff so this *might be a blessing so I can get my shoulder fixed...but after 11 months I am definately getting frustrated and sad.,....


Good luck to all testers!

[SAI Ladies]

Ladies - my apologies for being so lax in my updating.
I promise I will get in here tonight and update. I was away for a long weekend & work has been kicking my butt these days. But I promise :o
Really...:o

That I will get this updated today!

Thanks for your patience. I really appreciate it.

[knoelani]

JJ~ I don't mind you asking :) As far as the feeling goes, it anywhere from small twinges, tweaks, and pops to major "bursting" and bent over in pain. I'm not sure all the twinges and pops are cysts, but I suspect they are because I typically have them when I know I have cysts. I know that the bursting feeling is the cysts and it is not pleasant, I have literally been doubled over standing up holding onto the edge of the dining room table before.

Alioop~ I'm sorry about the BFN.

[ag05]

Thanks Cath, Alioop, and gymwidow!

I wanted to come in and give an update. My betas rose! My RE does them 4 days apart so they are looking for quadrupling. So my 13 DPO beta was 54 and my 17 DPO beta was 574. That seems kind of fast but I'll take it. I am not ready to graduate from this thread because I'm unsure about stuff. Hope its okay if I stick around.

[ag05]

Oops sorry. Thanks Marteney and Dallaslady too. Also, to everyone thanks again.

[Thea]

Congrats again to purple and congrats to ag05. Those beta’s look awesome.

Asha – I feel that way too sometimes. Any answers on your HSG yet? That is ridiculous.

Suz - Sorry to hear that you need to sit out until next year. That must be so frustrating. Here’s hoping that the time goes by quickly.

Gym – That’s awesome about your friend being able to help with the costs.

Knoelani – So sorry to hear about the new cysts. I sure hope they go away on their own.

Jj – I am so sorry things are so tough right now..

Taz- keeping my fingers crossed for you

Bumble – good luck this cycle and yeah for an RE appt.

Thedoorchick – keeping my fingers crossed for your upcoming IUI.

Jules- why can’t our DH’s just be willing and ready when we need them?

Marteneym – hoping you can do it on your own as well.

Tandis – welcome! I really appreciate the support here and I hope you do too

Alioop – sorry about the BFN.

It’s Thursday again, so I am caught up on tis thread for this week. NYC was awesome and a great break. We even were able to get a babysitter Saturday night for DS and enjoy an evening on the town alone. We have only had 1 or 2 since DS came to live with us in OCT so it was needed and appreciated. I must say that sometimes the stress of an 8yo boy, along with all of the fertility issues takes its toll on me, but I am feeling very optimistic about our next steps, and of course wouldn’t trade DS for anything! It’s CD 25 here, and nothing new to report.

[CTs_Punkin]

Well Finished the clomid challenge last week and it looked like I had 2 good large follicles, but some fluid in my right tube.

I got a call from the nurse yesterday with my CD10 FSH level results. Not very good - It was 14.5 on CD10 - which means I'm on the high side of borderline on their scale. My CD3 was 9.5. According to articles I've read, FSH levels should actually be lower on CD10 with the clomid challenge. So that has me pretty bummed out.

DH goes in for his SA & antibody test tomorrow morning - although I just found out when he set up the appt yesterday, which doesn't give us enough time to BD & for him to abstain. We haven't BD in 6 days - so his levels might be kind of sucky because of this.... ah well.. I did "try" on Wed, but he fell asleep in the recliner and wasn't about to be woken up...

We meet up with the RE next Thursday to discuss options... I'm pretty bummed out by what I've read. I think he's going to recommend IVF right away to try and combat my failing ovaries... I was really hoping we could try an IUI w/ trigger first.... but we'll see.

I am pretty sure I'm also going to need a Lap done soon - since my U/S showed fluid in my right tube, and my HSG showed my left tube blocked... oh joy!!

That's it for now. Hope everyone's doing great!

Congrats to Ag05 & Purple H & H 9 months to you guys!!

[thedoorchick]

A long post got eaten. :mad:

Our IUI is on Saturday, and we're hosting a group of 7th graders from our church as well as a couple of adults all weekend. So we will have to collect the boys that morning with a houseful of people downstairs! :o

I'll be back for some SO's.

[julesp313]

Ali - sorry about the BFN. They suck so much.
Knoelani - thanks for the info on the cysts. I'll make sure to raise the issue at my next annual appt, just in case - I wouldn't say the pain doubles me over, but it does make me catch my breath sometimes. Better to get checked out than be worried.
Ag05 - congrats on those good betas!
Thea - glad you got some time out - I think that's so important when you have kids...
CT - it sounds like you have a lot to process - hopefully your RE is someone who takes the time to sit down and really explain things and give you all your options.
Emily - your DH will be "the man" if he comes through with that crowd!

Me - CD17, still waiting to O. I thought it was way late for me, but reviewing my 30 (jeez, 30!) charts, it seems CD17 is actually my average O day. I got an almost-positive OPK yesterday (taken at 9pm when I got home from work so that might have thrown it off a bit) and TONS of EWCM yesterday and this morning. DH gallantly offered to perform this morning so we got our BD in. I told him he owes me one tomorrow too... then we're going on vacation on Sunday and he can have hotel sex, which apparently is better than "at home" sex. Honestly - men! :rolleyes:

[Hangin'in]

CT, don't let your RE convince you that IVF is the way to START when faced with a high FSH level. The goal with high FSH is to produce the follicles. If you can produce them, then IUI or timed BD can be just as effective. I would not even let them start off with injectibles, there are a couple of oral meds that us high FSHers have been successful with.... clomid, not so good. Ask about those before you let them put you on injectibles, they may work for you, and they are MUCH cheaper than Inj. melissafromnc is a wealth of knowledge on this subject.... I'll see if I can find some of her posts for you.

[Hangin'in]

CT

here is one (http://www.constantchatter.com/showthread.php?p=468371#post468371)

[CTs_Punkin]

Thanks Jen! It's nice to know all of that. I'm not sure what my DRs philosophy is on that. I do know that the U/S tech said that I actually responded well to Clomid (on CD10 I had two very large follicles that she thought I'd O in a few days) - so that was somewhat encouraging.

Thanks for the thread. It does help. I feel like I have so many things going against me, it's just hard sometimes... KWIM? Blocked tubes, high FSH, not ovulating... I know there are women who are worse off than me, but I guess I never thought at 33 (almost 34) I would have such problems?

Anyhow, thanks again.

[Delaney21]

I had my doctor's appointment set up for tonight, but it looks like I won't be needing it because this morning I got a BFP!!!

I want to thank everyone for all of the support - I honestly don't know what I would have done w/o you girls!

~*~*~*~*~*BABY DUST~*~*~*~*~

[katmg]

Congrats Delaney!! H & H 9 months to you!!

[Asha]

congrats delaney!!!

[ag05]

Congratulations Delaney!

[Bellefior]

Subscribing on the advice of the women in the IVF thread...I have a feeling I'll be seeing an RE pretty soon after my appointment with my OB/GYN next week and need to know what to expect.

Bellefior
Me – 37
DH - 36
Married – 5.31.03
Charting – 5/05
Off BCP since 5/05
Appointment with OB/GYN next Friday to start the process of seeing why we are not pregnant yet, suspecting an RE appt. will follow shortly thereafter.

Cross post from a different thread:

I have been charting and have been quite active in the TTC with charting thread. I'm fairly certain from my charts that I'm ovulating but am unsure if my LF are long enough. I've had some as long as 13, average seems to be about 11, but I've also had some as short as 9.

Speaking of charting, does anyone know how to get the FF charts to print w/o including all the BD information other than manually removing it??? The reason I ask is I have to print my charts for the doctor next week and while I understand she's a doctor and looks at it from a clinical perspective, I still feel weird about her seeing all that info about our sex life!

We're going to try everything possible before going on to IVF, only because my insurance plan does not cover it. Even though I live in MA and MA mandates IVF coverage, because I work for the Federal Govt, even though I live in MA, work in MA, and am covered by Blue Cross of MA, my plan can get away without providing IVF coverage because technically, they are not considered a MA employer! I already called the state insurance commission and yes, it is legal. They will cover diagnosis and some treatment, but will not cover anything "invasive" like IVF, IUI, ICSI, etc. Better than nothing, but still sucks! DH just took the bar exam and is looking for work, so unfortunately, switching to his insurance is not possible, and then I might have to deal with a pre-existing condition clause.

One other bit of sort of related news. Last night our church had a reconciliation service as part of the missions they've been conducting pre-Easter. I wasn't planning on going to confession, but my husband went, and after waiting in line to see the same priest he was going to and it was taking too long, I went to see the other (younger) priest because I didn't want to wait any longer. Believe it or not, after confessing your typical standard sins, I also asked him to ask God to help me with my feelings of resentment because we're not pregnant yet and to deal with my feelings of envy towards those who were married after us and either have kids or are currently pregnant. It actually turned into a good discussion with Father L. He told me he would pray for me and my husband, and then hubby told me he had asked the other priest to pray for us as well. Can't hurt and maybe God will take notice if he hears the prayers from 2 priests as well.

[jennylou]

bellefoir - my Dr actually appreciated the BD information b/c she could see that timing wasn't an issue, fwiw.

delaney - congrats!

jules - catch that eggie!

emily - good luck with your IUI.

To everyone else - you are in my thoughts!

[CTs_Punkin]

Miracles will never cease....:eek:
I think I actually O'd this month! After almost 1 year of nothing....
Thank you 100mg of Clomid. I had a temp of 97.92 this morning - the highest temp I've had in over a year. Feels really good. Our BD timing was terrible, but that's okay. Knowing that 100mg works - we have a RE appt on Thursday, so hopefully we can move forward w/ the LAP & then an IUI shortly thereafter.

Congrats Delaney!! H & H 9 months to you!
Wow, it's been busy in here. Gotta love springtime!:D

[TazLuv]

Well ladies I've been quiet the last week b/c I wasn't sure what was going on and I still have no idea! :( Today is CD34, 2nd cycle of 50mg Clomid CD3-7, unmonitored, BFN this morning. Last cycle was monitored with a blood test, they think I O'd around CD16-17, and the cycle lasted 31 days.

So this cycle I was traveling CD8-12, I always get dried out when I travel but I tried to drink a lot of water to help. But I now think that probably messed up my Clomid.

The main reason that stinks is my doc will only give me three cycles of Clomid before she sends us to the RE, of course maybe that is where we need to be.

Delaney - congrats.

Everyone else have a nice weekend.

[Asha]

well, my gyn seems to think my widely divergent, tilted uterus is not a problem with getting pregnant, and she does not think i need to get a mri. though, i asked her about the miscarrying, and she said it all depends on where the egg implants itself. if it implants itself in a good spot (i have no idea what is considered good), then i can probably carry to full term and maybe even deliver vaginally. if not, then i will have to be monitored very closely during the entire pregnancy, and may have to deliver early by csection. she also mentioned i have on small fibroid that is not blocking anything, so that's nothing to worry about according to her. still i am worried about it all, but i am trying to just listen to her.

[SAI Ladies]

Ladies - I have created a new thread for SPRINGTIME!!

Follow the white rabbit to: Spring Still At It Thread (http://www.constantchatter.com/showthread.php?t=17906)