TTC w/ Charting Vol 9 - Wishing for more BFPs to put under our trees!

[Charting is Knowledge]

TTCers of ConstantChatter:
Charting Our Course to the BFPs

http://www.ripleysorlando.com/images2/fertilitystatues.jpg
The fertility statues are known to work for some who rub them around the time of possible conception.
It is said that the baby is the most potent part of the statue.

So rub away! :D It's worth a shot!


Who we are:
This is a group of women using charting (temperatures, CM, CP, OPK/FM results, or a combination of these) to try to conceive and, along the way, are learning a heckuvalot about their own bodies! Many of us use a software program to keep track of our charts as well as allowing us to share them with each other. The most common ones are FertitlityFriend.com and Ovusoft.com.

Your threadmistresses for this thread are Polkadot and who else?!

To our members:
This thread gets very busy at times, so in order to keep things less overwhelming and a bit more organized, we start a new thread each month as well as after 3 BFPs. A link to the new thread is always posted at the end of the current thread to help everyone find their way over. The threadmistress would really appreciate it if everyone would post their updates in Red. That way, if I get a bit behind, it is much quicker to get the thread up-to-date.


Previous Thread... (http://www.constantchatter.com/showthread.php?t=11409)


KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!

Want to join the fun??
We welcome one and all. It doesn’t matter if you have never charted before or if you’ve been charting to avoid. I am sure you will find lots of help and support in this group.

If you would like to join, CD1 is the time to do it! That way, we can cheer you on
throughout your cycle, rather than 2 days before you test! :cool:

Please don't be discouraged by the number of posts in this thread. You don’t have to read the whole thread to join. Feel free to just jump in on the last page. Just read through these first couple of posts and post a reply with the following information and we will get you added right away. Of course, none of this info is a must but we like to know a little bit about one another.


CC Name:
Me: name/age
DH: name/age
Married since: date
Off BCP since: date
TTC since: date
Charting since: date
Known issues/test results:
Chart: link
Current status: waiting to O, What the bleep .., testing...

[Charting is Knowledge]

- Member ETF Status -

Lutealating:

Think I O'ed- Testing 12/12-12/18:
Alioop12345

Think I O'ed- Testing 12/19-12/25:
Aletheia (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a0c60), Bellefior (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6231d), Dotsie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e00ca), gator97 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/84b2d), jeant ( http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/5ef37),, Jnshanna (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cafa6) Katmg (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/89994), LDS Angel 19 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/64d1c), Quartercentury (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3313f), UTChick (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf25d)

Think I O'ed- Testing 12/26-1/1:
ausi2b (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f7062),giry76 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/781ab),JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf)

Think I O'ed- Testing 1/2-1/8:
Armadillo (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f25aa)
gmb4503 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/28f73)


Folliculating:
Waiting to O (aka - Boring Part of the Cycle)
ABirney (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrsabirney),Applebee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/98534), bumble, Copswife03 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/daf53), cowgirl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f3285), CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas), Deanna1018 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2979), Dlj78 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=dlj78),Dionysia (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/fdec3) Graciebella (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7a038), Gymwidow (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/813ab), Hiker04 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e86f8), Ilovemygeek (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bec65), Jenzen01, Jjsanner (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/24f94), Kiddo (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/kiddo), KristieB (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/df6e5),Marteneym (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fa78),Mayham (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/be39e), MichelleRenee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e174a), mimieliza (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/b84ec),MrsJackson05 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e581e),neenbean (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/66982), Polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d), polarama, Ptcrn (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bed5d),Roberta (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10827a) ,Sare79 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/fe765), suzfuzsunflower (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/90828), & TazLuv

Stagnating:
What the *bleep* is going on?!?!
No one...Yeah!! :D :D


Chart not Updated -- Waiting for an update:
Kristi32302 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/45b0a), Spencer's_Girl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6f9cc)

Taking a Charting Break/Temporarily TTA:
Ellidew (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/78d2a), Hula1974 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/905ef),

Percolating:
Expecting Mommies!

BFP's in December: (5)
Abby's Mom, ajlanden (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2fdee), jeggink (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c595), Mrs. M. (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1a234), Sabriel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c)

BFP's in November: (7)
Almostthere, Ellebelle (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2f8f5), Jesseybell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cd4f1), Lindybug (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99db2), Linnybubbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2330), mkvh (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99502), mrst2b2003

BFPs in October: (19)...We Broke the Record for most BFP's in One Month!!!!
amurphy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a5e06), Bottleored (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/44b0a), BunnyBeth (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e5de5), Calla Lily (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b025d), Ds2003 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ds2003), flygirl, Gardenia (http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=gardeniacc), jbenny75 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/803b1), Kaeden's Mommy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bcdb2), Lizard (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/af125), Mystikal (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/RaeK622), nuhmah (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/d72dc), Ryan (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3f12b), SarahnCraig (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c1846), Shouldaeloped (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/63d7a), Soulmate (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Soulmate), Klav (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21291), ShelbyMay (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/67c07), Wrighty26 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/beb7b)

BFPs in September: (3)
Baby Lust (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Shanes_Angel), Lowcountrywed (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c4aeb), Sabriel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c)

BFPs in August: (11)
Akachan93 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/229b9), Crazycaro (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21ac6), Guinness (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=10&id=guinness&tc=0&p=), jeeplover (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/721bb), Indiana Bride (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1d936), LittleStar (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c204a), Mel7dog (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ca05d), Missy329 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2b4de), MMHinCA (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c14c1), Sinclair319 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/sinclair319), Stumbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b1333), Uskiku (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cdfb0)

BFPs in July: (10)
Elenitsa (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=13&id=elenitsa&tc=0&p=), Heidi0622 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/549f8), Jane&Andy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c455f), Kopper (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/9e5e6), MrsCantDecide (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59e5b), Red_Canuck, Sevilla, ShannonGH (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ShannonGH), Tracie (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/a18c8), Tunibell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59461)

BFPs in June: (2)
Christy5599, Lovin'it

Tributatoring:
Proud Cheerleaders!
T3h_wookie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/25336)

Please advise if I’m off-target with your ETF (that's Estimated Test-Fest) or other status, or just need a good old-fashioned Ovary Shout!

-- Please remember to post all updates in red! Thank you!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Our Members:

ABirney (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrsabirney)
Me: Angie, 30
DH: Scott, 29
Married since: Sept 25, 2004
Off BC since: Dec '04
TTC since: Sept '05
Charting since: Dec 20 '04
Known issues: none

Aletheia (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a0c60)
Me: Aletheia, 28
DH: Mr. Ramsey, 28
Married since: August 7, 2004
Off BCP since: on briefly in 1999?
TTC since: December 1, 2005!
Charting since: March, 2005
Known issues/test results: none known

Alioop12345
Me: Alioop12345 (33)
DH: Aron
DS: Jacob (02/03/04)
TTC #2 since: 5/05
Known issues/test results: Seeking help from RE using Gonal F, progesterone, estrodial, and HcG...probably going to use Viagra next cycle

Applebee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/98534)
Me: Lori Ann
DH: Ted
Married since: 4.4.03
Charting since: since Feb '05
Known issues/test results: Day3 Test all ok, DH's SA ok, but will have another one done. Motility on the low side

Armadillo (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f25aa)
Me: 27
DH: 30
Married since: 10/2004
Off BCP since: 7/2005
TTC since: 8/2005
Charting since: 11/2005
Known issues/test results: none

ausi2b (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f7062)
Me: ausi2b, 27
DH: 28
Married since:
Off BCP since: Oct/Nov 2005
TTC since: Oct/Nov 2005
Charting since: Oct/Nov 2005
Known issues: None

Bellefior (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6231d)
ME: 36
DH: 36
Married since: 5/31/03
Off BCP since: 5/05
TTC since: 5/05
Charting since: 5/05
Known issues/test results: None

Bumble
DH: 33
Married since: 8.2003
TTC since: 4.2005
Charting since: 1.2005
Known issues/test results: miscarriage 6.2005 (8 weeks)

Copswife03 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/daf53)
Me: Brooke/25
DH: Joe/27
Married since: 10/11/2003
Off BCP since: 8/20/2005
TTC since: 8/20/2005
Charting since: 8/22/2005
Known issues/test results: None

cowgirl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f3285)
Me: 28
DH: 33
Married since: 6/14/2003
TTC since: 6/14/2004
Charting since: 10/24/2005
Known issues/test results:

CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas)
ME: MMT age 33
DH: CT age 36
Married: 11/04
Off BCP: 12/04
TTC since: 01/05
Known issues/test results: Long cycles

Delaney21 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e9d11)
Me: Jessica, 26
DH: Kyle, 27
Married since: June 14, 2003
Off BCP since: Feb, 2005
TTC since: November, 2005
Charting since: November, 2005
Known issues/test results: 2 ovarian surgeries

Dlj78 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=dlj78)
Me: Dana/27
DH: Nick/31
Married since: 9/18/04
Off BCP since: 2/2005
TTC since: 6/2005
Charting since: 2/2005
Known issues/test results: none

Deanna1018 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2979)
Me:37
DH:38
Married since: 9-6-03
TTC since: Will start Jan 06'
Charting since: October 2005
Known issues/test results: None

Dionysia (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/fdec3)
Me: Di, 30
DH: Dave, 34
Married since:
TTC since: May '05
Charting since: Nov '05
Known issues: none

Dotsie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e00ca)
Me: Dorothy 31
DH: Sean 34
Married: 10/27/01
DS: Aidan 6/27/03
TTC #2: 9/2005
Known issues/test results: none

Ellidew (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/78d2a)
Me: ellidew, 25
DH: 27
Married since: June 1, 2002
Off BCP since: 01/2005
TTC since: 07/2005
Charting since: 01/2005
Known issues/test results: none

Gator97 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/84b2d)
Me: Kristen/30
DH: Peter/30
Married since: 11/06/04
Off BCP since: 12/04
TTC since: 02/05
Charting since: 12/04
Known issues/test results: dx endometriosis/adenomyosis 08/05
m/c 09/28/05

giry76 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/781ab)
Me: Colleen/29
DH: Troy/30
Married since: September 25,2004
Off BCP since: November, 2004
TTC since: December 15,2005
Charting since: November, 2004
Known issues/test results:Ovarian cyct last cycle


gmb4503 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/28f73)
CC Name: gmb4503
Me: Gina/26
DH: Steve/27
Married since: April 5, 2003
Off BCP since: Sept 2003
TTC since: June 2004
Charting since: Sept 2004
Known issues/test results: SA-normal, taking 50mg Clomid

graciebella (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7a038)
Me: graciebella/34
DH: hubby /29
Married since: 10/09/04
Off BCP since: long time
TTC since: 10/04, with 6 month break
Charting since: 10/05
Known issues/test results: 1 blocked tube, irregular ovulation

Gymwidow (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/813ab)
Me: Melissa/28
DH: Alan/29
Married since: June '03
Off BCP since: Feb. '05
TTC since: June '05
Charting since: Feb. '05
Known issues/test results: PCOS diagnosed 9/05; 50 mg Clomid 11/05

Hiker04 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e86f8)
Me: C, 26
DH: K, 37
Married since: 9-4-2004
Off BCP since: 5-2004
TTC since: 6-2005
Charting since: 6-2005
Known issues/test results: m/c Aug 4, 2005

Hula1974 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/905ef)
Me: Heather/31
DH: Tim/31
Married since: 6/8/02
Off BCP since: 8/04
TTC since: 10/05
Charting since: 2/05
Known issues: Migraine Headaches

Ilovemygeek (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bec65)
Me: Rachel (23)
DH: Trevor (23)
Married since: June 8, 2002
Off BCP since: June 12, 2005
TTC since: As soon as my cycles regulate themselves
Charting since: June 12, 2002
Known issues/test results: None

jbemommy
Me: Shana 32
DH: 40
Ann: 6/22/02
DD #1: 2/3/04 (conceived first cycle off BCPs!)
TTC #2: since Aug. 2005

jeant (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/5ef37)
Me: Jean, 34
DH: Craig, 33
Married since: June 19, 2004
Off BCP since: June 5, 2004
TTC since: November 1, 2005
Charting since: July 2004
Known issues: Autoimmune thyroid disorder, correlated with higher risk of miscarriage.

Jenzen01 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/41226)
Me: 28
DH: 38 (next week)
DS: 12.21.04
Married since: 10.04.03
TTC since: 12.12.05
Known issues/tests: miscarriage @ 8 weeks 10.08.05

Jjsanner (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/24f94)
Me: Jen, 30
DH: Eric, 33
DS: Elijah, born 2/6/2004
Married since: 4/26/2003
Off BCP since: 10/2004
TTC since: 6/2005
Charting since: 10/2004
Known issues/test results: None

Jnshanna (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cafa6)
Me: Shanna/29
DH: Jose/30
Married since: 10/01/94
Off BCP since: Haven't been on BCP for many years.
TTC since: July 2005
Charting since: 8/07/05
Known issues/test results: None

JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf)
Me: Jody, 32
DH: Scott, 31
Married Since: August 30, 2003
Off BCP Since: At least 10 years now
Charting Since: January 2005
Known issues/test results: None

[Charting is Knowledge]

Members continued...

Katmg (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/89994)
Me: Katmg, 26
DH: Jim, 30
Married since: Nov. 8, 2003
Off BCP since: 05/04
Charting since: 08/04
TTC since: 05/05
Known issues/test results: None

kiddo (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/kiddo)
Me: Karen, 29
DH: Nate, 30
Married since: Oct 26, 2002
Off BC since: July '04
TTC since: August '04
Charting since: August '05
Known issues: none

KristieB (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/df6e5)
Me: Kristie/26
DH: Troy/25
Married since: 4/16/05
Off BCP since: N/A
TTC since: 11/05
Charting since: 08/05
Known issues/test results: None

Kristi32302 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/45b0a)
Me: Kristi/31
DH: Kelly/32
Married since: March 23, 2002
Off BCP since: Feb. 2004
TTC since: May 2004
Charting since: March 2004
Known issues/test results: None

LDS Angel 19 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/64d1c)
Me: Michelle, 22
DH: Aaron, 23
Married since: Sept 4th 2004
Angel: Allison Grace, born and died June 17 2005
Off BCP since: Never on BCP
TTC (again) since: August 2005
Charting since: Charted August, took September off, and now starting again.
Known issues/test results: None at this time

Marteneym (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fa78)
Me: 22
DH: 27
Married since: October 4, 2003
SWH since: October 2004
TTC since: December 2004
Off BCP since: September 2004
Known issues/test results: Delayed Ovulation, SA issues, Varicocele possible
9/9 FSH and Rubella- NORMAL
9/12 SA ABNORMAL- count 30mil/
motility 30% -repeat in 8wks

Mayham (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/be39e)
Me: 28
DH: 28
Married since: 5.02
TTC since: 3.05
Charting since: 5.05
Known issues/test results: None

MichelleRenee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e174a)
Me: Michelle/ 23
DH: Michael/ 29
Married since: May 29, 2005
Off BCP since: September 2005
TTC since: September 2005
Charting since: October 2005
Known issues/test results: none so far!

mimieliza (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/b84ec)
Me: Michelle/27
DH: Reid/29
Married since: 8/9/03
Off BCP since: 1/04
TTC since: 12/05
Charting since: 12/12/05
Known issues: Long, irregular cycles

MrsJackson05 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e581e)
Me: Jessica/23
DH: Travis/29
Married since: September 10th, 2005
TTC since: October, 2005
Charting since: Ocober 2005
Known issues/test results:

neenbean (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/66982)
Me: 30
DH: 30
Married since: 11/15/03
Off BCP since: 2/04
TTC since: waiting until 1/06
Charting since: 10/05/05 (also did before BFP with DD)
Known issues/test results: none

polarama
Me: Jenn, 30
DH: Chris, 30
Married since: 7/27/2002
Off BCP since: November, 2005
TTC since: November, 2005
Charting since: December, 2005
Known issues/test results: Possible PCOS, but never confirmed.

Polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d)
Me: lauren 26
DH: brian 27
Married since: 11-20-04
Off BCP since: May 05
TTC since: May 05
Charting since: May 05
Known issues/test results: none

Ptcrn (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bed5d)
Me: Jen/30
DH: Gerry/29
Married since: July 30th 2005
Off BCP since: August 14th 2005
TTC and Charting since: August 14th 2005
Known issues/test results: none

Purplesunshine7
Me:
DH:
Married since: 4/5/03
Off BCP since:
TTC since: 7/05
Known issues/test results: m/c 6/2/05

Quartercentury (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3313f)
Me: QC, 27
FH: just FH, also 27
Married since: nope, we're skipping straight to the baby part
Off BCP since: no BCP, off hormonal contraceptives since 10/2003
TTC since: 12/05
Charting since: 10/03
Known issues/test results: Sometimes short LP

Roberta (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/10827a)
Me: roberta, 27
DH: zak, 29
Married since: 11/15/03
Off BCP since: 10/05
TTC since: 10/05
Charting since: 12/05
Known issues/test results: Miscarried naturally @ 7 weeks 11/05

Sare79 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/fe765)
Me: Sarah, 26
DH: Joel, 25
Married since: October 15, 2005
Off BCP since: May, 2005
TTC since: June 2005
Charting since: November 1, 2005
Known issues/test results: m/c in 2002

Spencer's_Girl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6f9cc)
Me: melissa / 24
DH: keith / 34
Married since: Sept. 11, 2004
Off BCP since: August 26, 2004
TTC since: Sept. 11, 2004
Charting since: November 20, 2004
Known issues/test results: None

suzfuzsunflower (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/90828)
Me: Susannah
DH: Matt
Married since: 8/9/03
Off BCP since: 3/05
TTC since: 3/05
Charting since: 3/05
Known issues/test results: annovulatory, long cycles; taking clomid

TazLuv
Me: CM/29
DH: BM/29
Married since: July 2002
Off BCP since: June 2005
TTC since: Aug 2005
Charting since: 9/23/05
Known issues/test results: Loooooooong cycles

UTChick (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf25d)
Me: Kathy 28
DH: Mike 34
Married since: September 20, 2003
Off BCP since: December 2004
TTC since: May 2005
Charting since: May 2005
Known issues/test results: None

[Charting is Knowledge]

Things I Have Learned About TTC
by WC's Sherylb

* TTC is a journey. You will discover things about yourself that you never expected. You will face fears you never thought you had. You will find joy in little things.

* TTC can bring you closer to your DH, or it can pull you apart. If your marriage is not solid, you will find out quickly.

* No one understands exactly what you are feeling at any given moment, but someone can empathize at least a little bit.

* You will experience an emotional roller coaster ride. There will be highs and lows and fast moments and slow. Sometimes you have to wait in a very, very slow moving line. You may not even get the seat you want. It is not always fun, it can be scary, but in the end it is worth it.

* "Just relax" is the last thing in the world you want to hear from someone, but it is OK if you say it about yourself.

* There will be moments when you question your own decision to start TTC. You will wonder if you should wait or if you should just give up. Those are normal. But you will get past those feelings.

* The blue and green turtle likes to pop its head out! You will hear of someone's pregnancy and turn green with envy and blue inside because it isn't you.

* It isn't fair, it isn't easy, and it isn't pretty. But you keep doing it because the reward is worth it.

* You will be your best friend and your worst enemy. Your body will
surprise you and yet disappoint you.

* Some women do get lucky and conceive right away. Others aren't so lucky and have to struggle to get there. Hope you will be in the first category, but prepare yourself to be in the second.

* Once you decide to TTC, there will be babies and pregnant women everywhere! You could swear there is a baby boom going on!

* You will have questions. No one will ever be in exactly your position, so don't be surprised when no one can give you exactly the answer you are looking for. But there are people that can contribute, so don't be afraid to ask!

* Two lines on a pregnancy test is not the end of the struggle. Pregnancy has lots of struggles in and of itself.

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HTP sensitivity chart

These numbers might come in handy when shopping for HPTs.
The lower the amount of mIU measured, the more sensitive the test is!

AimStick Pregnancy Test Strip 20 mIU
AccuHome Midstream Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Pregnancy Test (Cup) 25 mIU
Clearblue +/- 25 mIU
Clearblue Digital 25 mIU
Confirm 1-Step Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Dollar Store Brand Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Equate Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
First Response Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
One Step Be Sure Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Precise Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Quickview Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Walgreen Digital 25 mIU
e.p.t. Home Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
Fact Plus Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
CVS Cartridge Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
CVS Midstream Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Drug Emporium Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. + / - Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. Certainty Digital Test 50 mIU
early Pregnancy test 50 mIU
RiteAid Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Target Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
WalMart Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Walgreens Pregnancy Test 100 mIU

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- Common TTC abbreviations

This is a list of some of the more common TTC abbreviations. I know as a newcomer to the TTC threads, it can be hard to keep them all straight. I hope these will help, and if anyone has any they would like added, please let me know!


•2WW: "2 week wait" - The approximate time from possible conception to menstruation due date; Pregnancy tests should be taken near the end of the 2WW.
•AF: "Aunt Flo"; Your period; Menstruation
•AFNW: "Aunt Flo Not Wanted"; the day your period is expected to start, but you are hoping it doesn't!
•AO: anovulatory (cycle without ovulation)
•BBs: "boobs"; breasts
•BBL: "be back later"
•BBT: Basal Body Thermometer; This is used to measure your basal body temperature, when you wake up in the morning, after at least 3 hours of sleep, before you start to move around; Use a special BBT thermometer to take your temperature because they measure the small changes in temperature from day to day more accurately than the regular fever thermometers.
•BCP: Birth control pills
•BD'ing: "baby dancing"; baby-making intercourse
•BFN: "Big Fat Neutral" or “Big Fat Negative”; Negative pregnancy test.
•BF'ing: breast-feeding
•BRB: "be right back"
•CD: cycle day; a particular day in your menstrual cycle (example: CD1 is the first day of your period)
•CL: Cover Line; a visual tool used to separate the low (pre-ovulatory) temps from high (post-ovulatory) temps; a coverline is typically based on the temperatures 6 days prior to ovulation.
•CM: cervical mucous; one of the most useful clues your body can give you in predicting your fertility; it can range from dry, creamy, sticky, or (the most fertile) egg white/watery type.
•CF: cervical fluid; same as cervical mucus
•CP: cervical position; an optional, but sometimes really useful, fertility sign; CP will generally be low, firm and closed before and after ovulation, and high, soft and open during your fertile time.
•DD: "dear daughter"
•DH: "dear husband"
•DS: "dear son"
•DPO: Days Past Ovulation; number of days from your post-ovulatory temperature rise. (Example: 1DPO is the day after your ovulation)
•Endo: endometriosis (can be a fertility problem)
•EDC and EDD: estimated date of confinement (antiquated, but still used by physicians) and estimated date of delivery
•EPT: a brand of pregnancy test, or, generic for "early pregnancy test"
•EW or EWCM: egg white cervical mucus; the most fertile quality CM; it is slippery, clear and stretchy, like egg whites; also EWCF
•FAM: Fertility Awareness Method; the method of fertility and/or birth control that correlates the physical changes you experience during your cycle to predict when you are most fertile
•FF: Fertility Friend, an online (free, for basic services) fertility charting site (website); (could also be formula feeding; check context)
•FM: fertility monitor
•FMU: first morning urine
•FP: follicular phase; the phase before ovulation, where the egg matures in the ovaries
•FRED: First Response Early Detection (pregnancy test)
•HCG: human chorionic gonadotropin; the hormone that is present during pregnancy and what the HPT's and blood test measure to determine if you are pregnant
•HTH: "hope that helps"
•HPT: home pregnancy test; a urine pregnancy test you can take at home
•IMHO: "in my humble opinion"
•IMO: "in my opinion"
•IUI: intra-uterine insemination
•IVF: in vitro fertilization
•KU: knocked up
•LH: leutenizing hormone; the LH surge is what is measured by the OPKs; this hormone signals the egg to burst from the ovary
•LP: luteal phase; the phase of your cycle that begins just after ovulation and continues for 10-18 days, ending with the start of your next period; during the LP, your body continues to build up the lining of your uterus, and produce hormones which would support a pregnancy; this is the time when a fertilized egg can implant into the uterine lining
•NFP: Natural Family Planning; similar to FAM, but with abstinence during the fertile period
•O, Oing, Oed: ovulation, ovulating, or ovulated
•OPK: ovulation predictor kit; tests for presence of LH surge that usually precedes ovulation by 12-48 hours; these tests are quite expensive and not always accurate (if you take medication or depending on your age); these are optional when charting with FF, but if your fertility data is not clear it can bring more light and help interpret difficult cases
•OS: Ovusoft; charting software based on TCOYF
•PCOS: polycystic ovarian syndrome (a fertility problem)
•PG: pregnant
•PIAC: pee in a cup
•POAS: pee on a stick
•RE: reproductive endocrinologist
•SA: semen analysis
•SH: "sweet husband"
•SO: "significant other"
•SYS, SYL : See ya soon! or See ya later!
•TCOYF: Taking Charge Of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler; a book and website about charting and fertility.
•TMI: "too much information" - There is no such thing when TTC!
•TTA: "trying to avoid"
•TTC: "trying to conceive"
•TTFN: "ta-ta for now"
•TTYL, TTYS: "talk to you later" or "talk to you soon"

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Resources borrowed from Still At It:

Abbreviations and acronyms
List of TTC & IF acronyms written out (http://womens-place.com/ttc/ttcacronyms.php)

HPT Sensitivity Comparison Charts
Fertility Plus (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hpt.html)
Pee On A Stick (http://www.peeonastick.com/hpts.html)
Mama's Ark (http://www.mamasark.com/hpt.htm)
Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com/pregnancy-test-sensitivity.html)
Remember, the hCG starts at 1 at implantation and increases as time goes on, so the smaller amount of hCG it measures, the more sensitive the test is!

Books
Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler, MPH (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060937645/qid=1041654042/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

The Fertility Sourcebook by M. Sara Rosenthal, PHD (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0737303808/qid=1042220393/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)

Inconceivable by Ben Elton (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385334656/qid=1041659461/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)
The movie "Maybe Baby" (below) is based on this book

Inconceivable: A Woman's Triumph Over Despair and Statistics
by Julia Indichova (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0767908201/qid=1059292613/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

The Infertility Diet: Get Pregnant & Prevent Miscarriage by Fern Reiss (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1893290395/qid=1059292976/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

Conquering Infertility: Dr. Domar's Mind/Body Guide to Enhancing
Fertility & Coping with Infertility by Alice Domar, Phd (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0670031550/qid=1059293116/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/103-2812959-1358247)


Girlfriend to Girlfriend: A Fertility Companion by Kristen Magnacca (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1588202135/qid=1082306449/sr=8-2/ref=pd_ka_2/104-9895052-8814318?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

Movies
Maybe Baby (2001) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000062XKW/qid=1041654127/sr=8-4/ref=sr_8_4/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=video&n=507846)

She's Having A Baby (1988) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6300988996/qid%3D1041654195/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-0287896-1655948)

Websites (by subject)

Charting
Ovusoft aka TCOYF (http://www.ovusoft.com/)
The site for Toni Weschler's book which includes message boards, chat and cycle galleries which are very helpful.

Fertility Friend (www.fertilityfriend.com)
A free charting site which includes a lot of information and cycle galleries.

Local Support
RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/chapters/resolvenearyou.jsp?name=chapters)
Nation-wide referrals to local support groups and therapists.

The American Infertility Association (http://www.americaninfertility.org)
Lots of information and support, including message boards and chat rooms.

Financial Concerns
ARC: Advanced Reproductive Care (http://www.arcfertility.com/)
information on financing infertility treatments

Family Fee Plan (http://www.amerifee.com/fertility-financing/index.asp)
information on financing infertility treatments

State Insurance Requirements (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/advocacy/insurance/index.jsp?name=advocacy&tag=insurance)
Links from the Resolve site about insurance & laws.

Inciid's Insurance pages (http://www.inciid.org/index.php)
Click through menu on right for more financial topics and the insurance forum.

General TTC
Trying To Conceive.com (http://www.tryingtoconceive.com/)
All things TTC! Lots of info as well as a place to buy herbal therapies for
conceiving.

Baby Med (http://www.babymed.com/)
Tons of information. Everything from Chinese gender charts to an FAQ section on pretty much any TTC question you could have.

Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com)
Baby makin' supplies!

OBGYN.net (http://www.obgyn.net/)
Lots of general info on women's health. They also have doctors on line who
answer questions.

Infertility Sites
INCIID (http://www.inciid.org/)
Pronounced "inside". (The International Council on Infertility Information Dissemination)
Excellent national resource.

Resolve (http://www.resolve.org)
Wonderful site with lots of infertility information and support.

I dream of baby (http://www.idreamofbaby.com/fertility.php)
Learn the basics of fertility issues here. This site also has a great message
board community!

Fertility Plus.org’s list of female hormone levels (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hormonelevels.html#female)
Starting your fertility work-up? Check out this site to see a list of the
commonly tested female hormone levels, the function of each hormone, and the normal levels of each hormone.

Shared Journey (http://www.sharedjourney.com)
Shared Journey is dedicated to providing quality information on topics such as
infertility, miscarriage, surrogacy, pregnancy after infertility, living
child-free, and adoption. Our information is supplied by well noted Reproductive
Endocrinologist's, Psychologists, Adoption professionals and links through
various sites.

FertileHeart (http://www.fertileheart.com)
A community of people exploring holistic approaches to fertility. A site by
author Julia Indichova (see books above)

Specific IF Issues
Soul Cysters (http://www.soulcysters.com)
PCOS site with lots of support and info

Dr. Beer (http://www.repro-med.net)
Reproductive Immunology information, including lists of tests, pricing, local referrals

Reproductive Immunology Support (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/immunologysupport/)
Yahoo group for RI patients, tons of info and articles

Info for Family and Friends
Empty Arms (http://www.vocalicious.com/empty_arms/empty_arms_mod.html)
This is a great video so they can understand what you're going through. (And get out your kleenex!)

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POST AWAY!

[ajlanden]

Had some trauma with the the thermometer this morning, so I didn't get my temp. GRRRRRR!!! Testing not before Friday.

Congrats to our new BFPs!!! We are ON FIRE!

*ETA-I was first last thread too. Either I am really on the ball OR I need to be more focused on work. Bad employee!!!!!

[armadillo]

Congrats to all the BFPs!!!! I'm CD6 today, so I'm just chillin'.

[CTs_Punkin]

Yeah for the new Thread!!! Congrats to all the BFPs from last thread...

As for me - CD 4 - start Clomid tomorrow. So crossing my fingers that it goes well.

DH is out of town until THurs & I'm out of town Friday - Wed - so at least he won't have to be around if I have any S/E this month.. :D
When I get back it will be CD12 - so the BD fest will begin then...

[ausi2b]

Awesome new thread! I just figured out that if I O on the same day this cycle, I would probably find out if I'm PG on Dec. 31 - New Years Eve!!! I better test before the festivities that evening :)

[Sare79]

My temp went down this morning for the first time in a while, and I started spotting, so maybe this is the mark of AF, and then I can try to figure out when I am actually O'ing!
Dh is so cute- he's been reading up on TTC and when I told him this morning I was spotting, he said "could it be implantation?" :)

[jesseybell]

I see a couple of BFPs that haven't been announced yet :)

We are eagerly awaiting more people to join us in the August 2006 Mommies thread!!

[JayJay]

4DPO today, not obsessing as of yet. That could be of course because I don't even have any tests at home. :rolleyes:

Sare, that's really cute of your DH. I wish mine didn't think I was crazy for doing all this stuff. When I mention it, he just looks at me like "Dear, I love you, but you're nuts!" :p

[Sabriel]

Wow, more BFPs?! I don't see them. :confused:

[Aletheia]

ajlanden- is there a story here? :p Had some trauma with the thermometer this morning... Sounds like quite an event. :)

I just posted a request for help (http://www.constantchatter.com/showthread.php?t=11933) from OPK users over in Family Planning... I'd love any advice you have for my situation! I am playing a gambling game on my O date...

[ajlanden]

ajlanden- is there a story here?
Quote:
Had some trauma with the thermometer this morning...

Sounds like quite an event.


LOL!!! I hate my da#$ thermometer. The button is really sensitive so sometimes when I hit it it turns on and then back off. Since it is dark I sit there with it in my mouth, half asleep, waiting for it to beep when the DA%$ thing isn't even on. Finally I got it to work this morning and put it down next to me while I woke up a little bit. When I got out of bed I took it to the bathroom with me to look at what my temp was (it has a memory). Well, when I got to the bathroom I notice that somehow it was on again and the memory had cleared. GRRRRRRRR!! Anyway that is my trauma...Aren't you glad you know? :D

I want to see the mystery BFPs!!!

[gymwidow]

Another positive OPK last night, but not as dark as Sunday's. Still having little O pains on my lower left side. Had EWCM yesterday, but of course it was tinged red since I'm STILL bleeding. Today's temp was still low (I hate that I can't get my FF link to work). So, last night would've been perfect BDing time, but noooooooooo, we couldn't 'cause DH got some kind of stomach bug and spent the night throwing up! :mad: Poor guy. He was so miserable and all my selfish little mind could think about, in between running to get him a cool towel, more water, etc., was that he was screwing up our perfect BDing schedule! :rolleyes:

Oh well. I see the RE today, so hopefully I'll be able to find out if I've even O'd yet (let's hope that it hasn't happened yet!) and I talked to DH and he said he was so sorry he couldn't do anything last night but that he'll be up for it when I get home today. Good man. :)

AbbysMom and Mrs. M, congrats!! H&H to you both!!!!! :D

ajlanden, so frustrating! Good luck waiting.

CTs Punkin, good travel timing! I hope the Clomid doesn't give you any awful s/e.

Sare79, awww, that's sweet. I hope if it is AF it comes and goes quickly so you can get started on a fresh cycle!

[cowgirl]

Congrats Abbysmom & MrsM!!!!

Gymwidow:To answer your ? from last thread I had watery cm on cd 17. No other signs.

Wow 3 BFPs already. I started spotting last night and have light spotting today so unsure what is going on.

[jodylovesscotty]

Cowgirl~ Are you Jada????

[cowgirl]

Yes

[jodylovesscotty]

OK. It takes me a long time to put 2 and 2 together:) It's me Jody!

[cowgirl]

That is ok since my lj is differnt.

[MichelleRenee]

I just spent 2 hours at the hospital with my friend and her baby. I held him and we chatted while she pumped. She told me some little stories about labor that scared the crap out of me. (I am still clinging to the fact that if my sis had 2 easy labors so will I..... please, no one ruin that for me.) Holding her little guy just made me want one so, so bad. Everyone keeps saying "maybe this will be you in 9 months" and I hope they are right!

With my temp going down but my CM drying up noticably I am seriously confused by my cycle, again, but what's new. Just waiting, waiting, waiting.

Congrats MrsM!!!!!

[neenbean]

CONGRATULATIONS Abby's Mom and Mrs. M!!! Happy and Healthy 9 months to you!


Threadmistress, please move me to waiting to O. AF arrived 2 days late. :( Got me excited and everything... <sigh> Next month, right? :)


ETA: thank you to all of you who shared your support during my extended LP. I was so anxious, no wonder AF was late! My LP is usually 10-12 days, so it was killing me to be 13 DPO and getting a BFN and no AF... I just wanted *something* to happen, you know? I guess I got my "something"- AF showed up on Sunday. I am actually fairly OK with this, but am hoping December is THE MONTH for ALL of us!!!! :D

[kmmommy]

Congrats to those who got BFPs! Let's hope for another month like October!

Dropping off some *~*~*~BABY DUST*~*~*!

[polkadot]

ok...i am so far behind i didnt know there was a new thread...i am such a bad co-mistress (sorry Sabriel :o ) well i am sitting here at 11DPO and its killing me....i really want this to be it....


congrats to all the BFP's i missed.....to everyone else who is in the dreaded 2WW I feel for you....good luck to everyone....fingers crossed for all.....


:D :D :D

[Applebee]

Cross-post from another thread. Thought I was in this one...

Hi All! Sorry I've been away for so long.

Had my first RE appt. today. Basically, it looks like IVF is the only option for me. Although my Day 3 tests from back in April looked good for a 39 year old, the doc said he felt the best option for us was IVF. I was happy that DH didn't stop the doc right there, like I thought he would. He's always said he didn't want IVF, but after hearing the doc, he seemed fine with it. We were both glad that our results were good, however they plan to redo my tests and give him a 3rd SA - just b/c they are infertility specialist. They will also do the HSG, but even if there is a blockage the doc said he won't operate. He said most likely it scar tissue from my D&C 8 years ago and you really can't repair the tubes that great if there is a lot of scaring.

Next is finding out what insurance will cover. My company is switching to a new carrier Jan 1 (luckily, I'm the one to help choose the plans!) and I'm waiting for the broker to send me the plan booklet for the carrier we want to go with. Keep your fingers crossed!!

Take care and I'll try to come in tomorrow night to catch up w/everyone else but I will say Congrats to Mrs. M and AbbysMom!!!!

[mayham]

Threadmistress: Can you please move me to: Think I O'ed- Testing 12/12-12/18? Thanks!

Sorry it's been so long since I last posted... I think I missed most of the last thread :o

Congrats to all the BFPS that triggered this new thread! I hope this is the month for all of us still here.

I'm 4 DPO. Things are really busy for me, so I'm hoping that'll make the 2ww a little easier as well.

Applebee - That's great your DH is on board with the next steps with testing and IVF. Good luck with insurance, hope it has good coverage for you!

ajlanden - I've had the same thing happen with the thermometer, where I think it's on, but it's not -- so annoying!

gymwidow - I hope your DH feels better soon, so you can get back to the task at hand!

[Quartercentury]

Just checking in to say hello/goodbye-for-now - today is my last with all-the-time access to a computer for a while, as I am flying to Bangkok tomorrow! As long as I haven't ovulated yet (I am a bit worried because my temp was up ever-so-slightly a hour before the usual time this morning), we'll be TTC our way through SE Asia. I will update when I can, and I hope to see many many BFPs by the time I'm back in February!

[Dotsie]

subscribing...be back later with shout outs!!!

[ajlanden]

Quartercentury-Have a great trip! I sure hope you come back with great news! You will pop in and tell us before Feb, right?

mayham-Hope the 2WW flies!!!

Applebee-I hope you get some good news about your insurance!! Crossing my fingers for you!

polkadot-Have you tested? I am holding out.

12DPO-Temp is down some, but honestly my temps are going to be crazy because I have an 1 year old who wakes me up throughout the night. So who knows if I can trust that. Just waiting....

[polkadot]

hi all...

ajlanden- no i havent tested yet and its killing me....i want to sooooo bad....i am having cramps but i dont feel any different so who knows.....i will test Friday morning if AF doesnt show....fingers crossed....


applebee- that is good news that you will be able to help pick the new insurance....hope you get good news soon....

mayhem-good luck with your 2WW!

off to lurk ;)

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updated to here....

[CTs_Punkin]

Well, I started Clomid this morning... so far so good... (It was only a couple hours ago that I took it, so not expecting too much)

Called the DR and have a U/S scheduled for CD13 - next Thursday - to see if it worked. We shall see... keeping my fingers crossed.

I also have an RE appt for January 12th to discuss the HSG results (left tube possibly blocked) - so just have to sit and wait. I'm secretly hoping that this month will be "our" month and that I can cancel the RE visit :)

Need to have a chat w/ the Hubbie about BD this month. I usually don't tell him "when" i'm fertile, but I think this month I'm going to do the "lets plan this out" and hopefully we'll catch the egg (if there is one).

[polkadot]

ok...question...if it doesnt happen for us this month...how do i approach the subject with the dr.

she is the one who suggested reading TCOYF and charting so do you think she will start with at least bloodwork considering that it hasnt been 1 year yet...its been 8 months so i am hoping that i can convince her to at least start with bloodwork....so the question is...if you had this discussion with your dr. what did you ask for? Bloodwork, full workup, SA, or just did what the dr. told you? Thanks in advance....:D

[CTs_Punkin]

Polkadot - I scheduled an appt specifically to discuss TTC - I went in and told her what I was doing (I haven't been Oing - and it was easy to convince her I knew what I was talking about because I knew how long each of my cycles was due to my charts, etc). So she suggested I start on Clomid, but wanted to do blood work up, and an HSG first to make sure all was OK before starting Clomid. She also recommended my DH get an SA.

Talking to the DR about your concerns & generally they will be able to decide what tests you need....

HTH??

[polkadot]

thanks that does help...i have **the** headache that i get right before AF shows so i am about to count myself out this month too....i am probably gonna call tomorrow to see when i can get an appointment....

wish me luck...:rolleyes:

[ausi2b]

Sorry to hear about the headache Polkadot! Remember - it ain't over til AF is here! I agree with the PP's thoughts on explaining your thoughts to the doc, going over your charts, and let the doctor/expert give you the answers. It is so great to have a doctor that promotes charting, isn't it? I love that mine is so pro-charting!

[gymwidow]

RE Update:

I am soooooooooo glad I went to the RE! I wish I had done it months ago. He's really nice, young and energetic and definitely a guy who likes to be aggressive, in a good way, and treat the problems at hand. He agrees that there's no reason to wait around and try a variety of things since we know what my problem is. He also likes to do continuous monitoring of patients, so from now on I'll have all the regular bloodwork and u/s for patients on Clomid. He said I can continue on Clomid for a few months if I want, but that if I want to go right to injectables or IUI, he doesn't see a problem with that. He said anything further he would caution against, since I'm young and healthy, but that we can always discuss that (IVF, etc.) later. I agree completely, and am glad that he's open to doing IUI sooner rather than later. I think personally I'd like to give Clomid alone at least a month or two, maybe, but I'm also not averse to trying IUI in a month or so. Might as well increase our chances even higher!

He did an u/s and told me that I have classic polycystic ovaries - he showed me the rings of cysts on each of my ovaries. He also saw on my right ovary what he said was either a ripe egg about to release, or a fluid-filled sac (corpus luteum) from an egg that had just been released. He said he couldn't really tell from the u/s, but it was definitely one or the other, so it seems that the Clomid worked this month and I'm going to O! I personally think that it's an egg about to release, b/c my temps are still low. He said that's likely and that it's not a big deal that it's relatively late in the month for me to O (I'm CD19 today and he said most Clomid patients O b/w CD15-17). He told me to go home and "have relations" with DH. So I did. Hehe. Thank goodness DH was feeling better. I told him that he's on duty for at least another couple of nights, till hopefully I see a temp rise. He said he has no problem with that!

So for now I have an appt. next Wed. to go in for post-O bloodwork. Hopefully it will confirm that I did indeed O this month. And then we just wait. If this isn't our month, starting next month I'll go in for CD3 bloodwork, then take Clomid again from CD3-7, then go in for a CD12 u/s, then post-O bloodwork again. This office has "monitoring" hours from 7-9 am every single day of the year (except Christmas), so I can go in first thing and get my blood drawn or u/s done and then head to work. Also, they do all their own bloodwork right there in the office, so if I have blood drawn in the morning they said they basically guarantee results that afternoon. How nice! Also, the doctor gave me his email address and told me to feel free to email him anytime with questions or worries or anything. He said when he's not with patients he's in front of his computer and will always make sure to get back to me. I thought that was great!

So I'm feeling very excited and hopeful again. I can't wait to get home and get busy BDing! :D

neenbean, I'm sorry that AF found you. Not again for a long time, I hope!

polkadot, good luck testing! Crossing my fingers for you..... I'm not sure how to answer your question. I went to my dr initially for the constant spotting and that led me to my PCOS diagnosis, and we just went from there. If I were you, though, I'd ask for at least bloodwork and a u/s, which they can do easily right there in the office. That could be your starting point, and from there you may move on to SA or HSG.

Applebee, I'm glad you had a good appt. Sorry to hear that IVF may be the only option, but I AM glad to hear that you do have that option! I'll think some happy thoughts for you that it works out quickly so you can move forward, and hopefully be covered by insurance!

Mayham, thanks, I didn't give him much choice yesterday after I heard what the RE had to say! Luckily he was "up" for it. hehehe I hope you have a quick 2WW. Being busy always helps pass the time!

QuarterCentury, have a great trip!!!

ajlanden, crossing fingers for you!

CTs Punkin, yay for starting Clomid! I hope you have it easy and don't get any side effects. I really only had nighttime hot flashes and cramping last week. And my temps were higher. But that's about all. Definitely let DH know when the prime BD time is. You want to make sure to get that window! I hope you can cancel the future RE appt before it arrives!

[armadillo]

Glad you had a good visit with the RE, gymwidow!! Congrats on the soon-to-O diagnosis. Fingers are crossed that this is your month!

[JayJay]

Well, 5DPO today. This wait is actually going pretty fast.

This morning when I entered me CM info, my little red dotted crosshairs turned solid! I was really glad to see that. That gives me a little piece of mind now. But, we BD'ed again last night just for the fun of it! :D

[ajlanden]

gymwindow-I am so glad you appointment went well! Stay busy with DH!!

Started spotting...I am sure AF is on her way. :mad:

[polkadot]

oh ashley- i am so sorry...i am sure i will be joining you tomorrow....:rolleyes:

heres to next month :D

[UTChick]

polkadot~If you really want to go in and talk to your doctor, go ahead and call now. It would be good if they could get you in before AF shows (that is, if she does show ;) ) so that you won't have to wait until the next cycle to do CD3 bloodwork. Make sense? I went in right before AF came and it worked out perfectly - timing-wise. I just told my dr. the lengths of all my cycles and the days when I got +OPKs and he initiated the talk of what tests to do. Good luck!

[ptcrn]

You guys are all so lucky that you have good doctors who are into the charting thing! Small rant here...

I went in for my annual gyn exam yesterday and told my NP that we are now TTC. She went over all the stuff about eating right, taking prenatals, yada yada yada. And she says- get this- "we just recommend that everyone have intercourse twice a week." I could totally miss my (very minimal) fertile CM if we did that! She also said "normal couples could take a year or two to get pg!" You better believe I'm having things checked out if its over a year!

Then I mention to her that I've been charting since August- and she just looks at me like I'm nuts! She didn't say anything, just kind of said, "oh really?" like she totally didn't agree with charting. And I'll tell you, I just shut up after that. I had some things I had really wanted to ask her about my CM too, but after that reaction I knew she wouldn't be supportive. It just really sucks to have someone act so judgemental just in their body language, you know? I have been going to her for a while too, so I was really bummed. :( I hate that we seem to know more about our cycles than most providers do.

Anyway, enough of my ranting! I've been spotting a little but hoping that its just due to my pap since I usually don't spot before AF. I'll probably test again Saturday if my temp is still up, but I'm not holding out much hope.

Good luck to all the other testers coming up!

[polkadot]

kathy- thanks for the support...well...i cant get in until the 19th so testing before AF shows isnt possible this time....but at least i got an appt. she is very pro-charting and she reccommended TCOYF so i am hoping she'll start testing when i ask for it....

ptcrn- it sucks that you NP isnt pro-charting i have heard from many people that docs arent for charting and take the way of thinking that it will happen when it happens...maybe you could ask to see a different doc one that you know will be opening for helping you our and procharting.....good luck....

i am fulling expecting to wake up tomorrow to AF and a low temp....wish me luck....:rolleyes:

[ABirney]

Hey ladies! I hope everyone is having a good night...
Congrats to the BFP's from last thread!!
CTsPunkin good luck with the Clomid!
gymwidow yay for the good appt and glad your DH is feeling better.
applebee good luck with IVF!
Quartercentury have a good trip and I hope you come back with good news!
ptcrn that sucks about your NP.
polkadot I hope you don't need that appt!

Congrats to all that are O'ing, and sorry to those who AF found.

Well I don't know if it's my imagination, but I think I'm having very mild cramps this afternoon so I hope that's AF on her way... I'm anxious to start a fresh cycle! I finished up the Provera on Monday.
Have a great night everyone!

[Aletheia]

Hi ladies-
I'm back from driving home for a little nookie, but I fear it was all for naught. When will I ever ovulate? I can hear my ovaries, and they are laughing like little mischievous urchins-- so pleased with themselves for having so much power over me that I spent 8 hours in the car just to try to get the welcoming committee in position before they rocket out an egg...

The latest I've O'd in the past 9 months is CD23, and here it is just the end of CD18. Good lord that's a lot of BDing! It's a good thing I like my DH.

Question: I am usually an EWCM factory, but not this month. Is it because I'm psyching myself out or is it because it is harder to tell if it is EW because of, well, leftovers from the welcoming committee/swim team?

Thanks for your help, girls!

[polkadot]

alethia- i have to same problem most of the time...and i even posted the same question on the FF vip board and they continue to say that after and hour or so the **leftovers** of the welcoming committee kind of get absorbed or soemthing like that and that if you are confused you should do the glass test....

take a little bit of the confusing CM and put it in a glass of water...if it sinks its fertile Cm if it floats its uhhhmmm **leftovers**

i hope that helps...i have done the test and it seems like its always fertile CM...but that could just be me....hope that helps....

[polarama]

Hi ladies, mind if I join?

Me: Jenn, 30
DH: Chris, 30
Married since: 7/27/2002
Off BCP since: November, 2005
TTC since: November, 2005
Charting since: December, 2005
Known issues/test results: Possible PCOS, but never confirmed.

I am on CD 3. I was actually excited to see AF on Monday, mainly because it was my first "on my own" one after I stopped BCP (around Halloween). I'd been on BCPs since 1995, and that was because I wasn't menstruating regularly, and my docs have suspected PCOS in the past few years. So I was excited to see AF.

[MichelleRenee]

I hate my chart this month.:( :confused:

[polkadot]

fly by post......big temp drop....97.52.....damn damn damn.....:mad: :mad: :mad:

[JayJay]

I had a temp drop this morning also. But only to my coverline, 98.0

Hope that's a good thing. :confused:

[gmb4503]

Just checking in :) I'll be back to catch up!

[Sare79]

I hate my chart this month.:( :confused:

I would like to second that!
I hate my chart too. I entered everything in for this morning and it took my crosshairs away.

[Sabriel]

MrsJackson05 Maybe an implantation dip? Let's hope!

polkadot Sorry sweetie. :(

MichelleRenee I hope you O soon!

polarama Welcome! I hope your stay is short and sweet!

Aletheia Looks like your booty call was well timed!

ABirney i hope AF shows for you soon!

ptcrn I am sorry that your NP isn't charting friendly. I got the same reaction from the GYN I went to a couple of years ago (and haven't been back.)

I am 9 DPO today, and I have no idea what is going on with my chart. I have never had post O temps this low before. I would almost think that AF was coming, but she has never showed up earlier than 11 DPO. :confused:

[gymwidow]

CD20, still no sign of O. If my ovary made an egg this month, it HAD to come out at some point, right? Stupid body, doesn't it know I'm impatient and don't want it to take its sweet time about this? DH and I skipped BDing last night 'cause we were both just exhausted, but we did wake up a little early today to start the day out right. I guess we'll just keep this up till I see that temp jump.

armadillo, thanks!

MrsJackson, yay for solid lines! I loved seeing those the one month it happened for me. I hope I get 'em again this month. It's definitely good to BD now and then just for fun. Here's hoping your little temp dip is an implantation one!

ajlanden, thanks. I'm sorry to hear you're spotting. Bad spot!

ptcrn, I'm so sorry! That's awful. My GYN seemed to dismiss my charting as well, but never quite like that. I think it helped for me that I'm friends with her partner, so I actually talked to him more than I saw her and was able to get into the RE in part because of my connection. I worry that otherwise they would've been stringing me along for a while there. Have you considered switching doctors? I think you should!

ABirney, thanks. I hope AF shows up soon so you can get started on the new cycle. And then I hope she doesn't come back for a long time!!!

Aletheia, I think your ovaries and mine are working together to make us nuts! I definitely can empathize. I'm here on CD20 and *should* have O'd days ago thanks to the Clomid, but am recording record-low temps! So frustrating. LOL, it's definitely good you like your DH. I hope you had a nice drive. :rolleyes:

polarama, welcome! Little cheer for your first "natural" AF and good wishes that it's your last for a while.

Michelle, ugh. It's a confusing one, isn't it?

polkadot, :mad:

sare79, that sucks. Do you feel like AF might be on her way?

Sabriel, I'm crossing my fingers for you!

[armadillo]

take a little bit of the confusing CM and put it in a glass of water...if it sinks its fertile Cm if it floats its uhhhmmm **leftovers**

i hope that helps...i have done the test and it seems like its always fertile CM...but that could just be me....hope that helps....

You know, I keep reading this, but after BDing, I always go to the bathroom. I'm pretty sure everything that comes out then is leftovers, but it always sinks and stays together. It doesn't disperse at all.

[ABirney]

Good morning ladies!
Welcome polarama! I hope your stay is short and sweet.
Aletheia nice temp jump today... hopefully that drive yesterday was worth it!
MrsJackson I'm thinking maybe implantation dip....
MichelleRenee Hope you O soon and your chart gets easier!
Sabriel not sure what to make of those low temps... strange...
gymwidow hopefully that egg will pop out soon!
sare bummer about your CH getting taken away... to me it looks like maybe O on CD28 and with the spotting AF is about here? I'm no expert though.
As for me I noticed a little spotting when I was getting ready for bed last night and a little more this morning... also a little more crampy... so I'm looking for AF to show up pretty soon.

[Delaney21]

Ok this may be a stupid question, but when gymwidow posted her chart, did you see her chart or your own? I thought her chart looked really familiar, so I looked up mine and its the same. I doubt we have the exact same chart, so I'm wondering what happened. Anyone else have this happen?

[Aletheia]

delaney...Whacko! Yeah, I see my chart too. What could have happened? That's so weird!

Welcome, polarama!

armadillo- good point. Maybe it's just a mixture? I dunno.

By the way, I'm not so sure about my temp jump. I woke up before my alarm and I was freezing and so found my hot water bottle/DH replacement and it was still hot (I had filled it with boiling water last night.) I had that on my chest for probably an hour before temping.

I'd like to believe the jump is right, but what with a pronounced increase in CM today, I just don't think it is... tomorrow will tell. And get this... not only is my temp unreliable this morning, but I'm out of OPK's and its' supposed to start snowing here shortly in a big way. If I don't make the decision to go home tonight soon, I'll be stuck here for another 24 hours...

So it looks like I'm getting back in the car.

[Sare79]

Normally when AF is on the way, I get one day of spotting and it certainly looks different than what's been happening the last few days. I also get really bad cramps and I haven't had those, but I have been crying a bit to my poor DH. Then again, I have never had this long of a cycle before.

[Bellefior]

Ok this may be a stupid question, but when gymwidow posted her chart, did you see her chart or your own? I thought her chart looked really familiar, so I looked up mine and its the same. I doubt we have the exact same chart, so I'm wondering what happened. Anyone else have this happen?

Yes, except now I am getting an X where the chart was. I was going to post and tell her what I thought because the chart she posted was similar to mine last month, and now that you said it, I realize it was last month's chart!

[ptcrn]

Delaney- Weird! I was thinking that chart looked awfully familiar! :p I wonder why that happened?

Me too, polkadot! 97.6 this morning. :mad: I'm sorry for both of us. Hopefully next month will be our month! ((crossing fingers)) I'm glad you were able to get an appt- hopefully you'll be able to get some bloodwork.

Thanks, gymwidow, polkadot, Sabriel and ABirney for the support. I probably will see another doc in that office if I have to go back before I get pg. I would not go to them for pregnancy anyway because I work in OB at their hospital, and I just wouldn't be too comfortable having my coworkers be my nurses!

Welcome to polarama! I hope your stay is short and sweet!

ABirney, I hope AF is here finally so you can get on to a new cycle!

Hope you caught that egg, Aletheia! I was LOL reading your story- you have a gift for writing!

gymwidow, keeping my fingers crossed for you!

Sorry if I missed anyone. Gotta get back to work!

[gymwidow]

That's so weird. Oh, well, it was worth a try!

[Sare79]

AF came. It really was unlike any other cycle for me. Oh well, now I can actually start to track it better. Since I started spotting Tuesday, should I alter the beginning of the cycle to then?

[Chris~n~Jen]

Hi! I've been lurking in here for a while patiently waiting for AF and cd1 to join.

Me-Jen
DH-Chris
Married Since-10/29/05
TTC Since-10/30/05 ;)
Charting Since-11/12/05
Known Issues-None

Since I am still new to the whole charting thing I may have lots of questions. Please bear with me! :o

[cowgirl]

polarama & chrisnjen Welcome!


Gymwidow Hope you O soon.
Sabriel Sorry your temps are not higher post O but maybe it is a good thing.

Sorry to anyone I missed trying to post on the run. Not sure what was up with my chart last time. But I am on to another one that will hopefully have a for sure O.AF showed yesterday so could you please move me to waiting to O Thanks

[dionysia]

*waves to everyone*

CD 21 here, 11 DPO.
No PG symptoms to speak of, and I'm getting over a cold. Which FUBARed up my chart, so I had to discard yesterday and today's temps (99.2 and 98.5; coming off an fever).

Di

[Chris~n~Jen]

Here comes my first silly question!

I am charting on fertilityfriend. How do I link my chart into my siggy? I mean I know how to get it in my siggy but where on fertilityfriend do I go to find the shared charts?

[CTs_Punkin]

Chris n Jen - Go to Sharing tab - select home page set up. The link to your chart is at the top of the pg. Just copy & paste it like any other link here on CC.

As for me, no real S/E from my second day of Clomid, but we shall see....

Good luck to the upcoming testers!!
MMT

[Aletheia]

Welcome chrisnjen!

Sare- No; the first day of red flow is CD1; don't readjust your chart. Sorry about AF, but now you know exactly where you are in your cycle!

10dpo is too early for pg symptoms in my perspective, Di. Hang on!

As for me... the EWCM continues to build, not decrease. I'm pretty sure that temp was a fluke, so I'm discarding it. We'll see what tomorrow brings. Oh, and thanks for the compliment, ptcrn!

[MichelleRenee]

Thanks everyone. I just felt so mad this morning. Of course I had to play around with my chart this afternoon and I discovered that if my temp rises tomorrow morning I will have solid crosshairs which made me feel better. I just hate how charting makes me feel.... like if I can find the right combo of symptoms and temps and enter them I will get PG. I think it is also easy to be convinced that getting enough people at CC to say your chart looks PG will mean you are PG. In reality it doesn't matter what I enter on my chart because my chart does not determine whether or not I am PG.

I am feeling better though. I have had some nausea the past two days and I am starting to think it has more to do with my cycle than with my acid reflux. It always comes right around O time and lasts, on and off, until AF comes. But I am feeling good about our timing this month. We didn't plan it that way, it just happened every other day like that.

Hopefully this is it for us. I get so discouraged when AF shows up. We need to get a few more BFP's up in here!!

Aletheia, good luck tomorrow!!! I hope you caught that egg!

CTs_Punkin, I hope the Clomid works for you! Good luck!

Chris~n~Jen, Welcome!!!

dionysia, I had a fever mess up my chart last cycle. Luckily it was early enough on that it didn't confuse me on my O date. (I did that myself!) I hope you are feeling better!

cowgirl, I am so sorry about AF. :(

Sare79, I am so sorry for you too! Hopefully this next cycle will be it for you!

[Sare79]

I'm actually thrilled to be starting a new cycle. I choose to ignore last month and hope that this month is a bit more stable.
Can you update me to Waiting to O?

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here!

Welcome polarama and Chris~n~Jen!!!

[Delaney21]

I think its time to transfer over here and quit the SWH group. I started charting last month, but I didn't want to join until I was sure that I could stick with it. Charting is addicting!

Oh yeah, and I'm on CD1.

CC Name: Delaney21
Me: Jessica, 25
DH: Kyle, 27
Married since: June 14, 2003
Off BCP since: Feb, 2005
TTC since: November, 2005
Charting since: November, 2005
Known issues/test results: 2 ovarian surgeries
Chart: My Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e9d11)
Current status: Waiting to O

[polkadot]

no AF and a BFN!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:

why cant she just show up so i can cry about it and move on? :rolleyes:

[Chris~n~Jen]

Threadmistress, I forgot to put our ages. Can you add them please. Me: 27 DH: 29!

Thanks!

[Charting is Knowledge]

updated to here welcome to Delaney21!!!

[polkadot]

i am soooo annoyed....temp drop this morning...BFN this evening after work....but still no sign of AF...what the hell? :rolleyes:

i am really bummed...everyone told me...just relax...dont chart, take a break dont think about it....it will happen...well guess what? I did that and it i am still not knocked up!!! Sorry for the rant girls i just had to get it out....

the only good thing is that i have a dr. appt on Dec 19th to look forward too.....i hope she wants to get the ball rolling as much as i do....later girls.....:confused:

[Ilovemygeek]

Something really weird happened today. I was at work and out of nowhere I had a stabbing pain in my abdomen (not a specific side) that lasted about 5 seconds and went away. Almost immediately it happened again. I figured it was gas :o and went on with my day, but this evening I noticed that I am spotting and I wonder if the two are related. I have not O'd yet and I do not have fertile CM so what on earth does this mean?

I am probably reading too much into all this, but every little twinge I feel must have something to do with my reproductive system. :rolleyes:

[cowgirl]

B]Aletheia[/B], I hope you caught that egg!

CTs_PunkinI hope the Clomid works! Sare79 Sorry AF found you as well but maybe this cycle will be it.
Delaney21 Welcome!!! I noticed we are wedding day twins.

Polkadot Rant away we all have those upsetting moment. Friends tell me to quit trying and it will happen well wrong.
Ilovemygeek unsure what that could be.

Question I am going to try OPK's this cycle. When should I start testing? FF had my O on cd 19 but those who looked at my chart questioned that. Thanks

Also I forgot to up date DH age to 33. Thanks threadmistress.

[polkadot]

she showed this morning....Happy Friday to me! :( :mad: :rolleyes:

[Dotsie]

PolkaDot I'm so sorry. {{HUGS}}
Delaney Welcome. I hope your stay here is short and sweet.
CT I hope the clomid works for you. I hear all kinds of success stories with it.
ILovemygeek I've never had that. Here's hoping it's your system gearing up to get that egg implanted good!!!
cowgirl How long are your cycles typically? Mine are 28 days and I usually start testing on cd11. Last month I o'd 2-3 days late so I panicked when I wasn't getting my + opk. Good Luck
Chris&Jen Welcome!! I hope your stay is short and sweet also!!
Sare Good Luck in the 2ww. I hope this is it for you!!
I'm on cd11 today. I hate waiting to O. It's worse than the 2ww. We're going to bd every other day this cycle. I'm also using preseed and instead cups. So far so good. I was really panicky at the start of this cycle. Now I am calm, almost too calm. Hopefully that a sign.

[gymwidow]

Well, CD21, 2 weeks since my last Clomid dose, and STILL no sign of O. It's very frustrating. The doc saw an 18.8 mm follie on my right ovary 3 days ago and said that if it was an unreleased egg (as opposed to a corpus luteum left behind from an already-released one) that I should O within 2-3 days. Well, today is 3 days! C'mon little ovary, let that thing go!!!! :rolleyes:

I'm wondering if perhaps my CD count is off. My GYN told me to count my first day of spotting as CD1, but that just sounded wrong - as we all know, CD1 should be the first day of true bleeding, right? So maybe today is actually only CD18 or 19. But still, with the Clomid so long ago, I should have O'd. :confused:

Whatever. Can't control it, so we're continuing to BD and hopefully I'll see a temp rise at some point. I have my bloodwork scheduled for Wed., so by then we'll know for sure what's going on.

If this cycle doesn't work, I think I might go straight to IUI next month. This endless waiting and wondering makes me nuts. It might be better if we just schedule it and be done. What do you guys think?



Sare79, sorry that AF came, but glad that she finally came, you know? I hope this cycle is a little easier for you!

Chris-n-Jen & Delaney, welcome!

cowgirl, ugh to AF arriving. Hope she leaves soon! Maybe start using the tests around CD15 or so?

dionysia, good luck! When do you plan to test?

Michelle, I'll be thinking lots of positive thoughts for you!

polkadot, I'm so sorry.

Ilovemygeek, hmmmm, perhaps it's your ovaries gearing up to let loose an eggie?!

dotsie, calm is good. I agree, the pre-O wait is awful. I hope you catch the egg this month!

[Sabriel]

Dotsie Have fun BDing and yay for staying calm!

polkadot I'm so sorry sweetie. :(

cowgirl My average O is around CD 18. I started OPKs this cycle on CD 10. Good luck!

Ilovemygeek I'm not sure what that would be?

Welcome Delaney21!!!

I am 10 DPO and got a BFN this morning. I shouldn't have tested. I was trying to hold off until 12 DPO, but I have had dreams the last 2 nights that I got a BFP. My FPS are nausea, frequent urination, crazy dreams (about 3-4 each night), increased appetite (or am I a pig?) and irritiability. It is probably all in my head though.

[JayJay]

7 DPO today. My temp went up this morning, higher than it's ever been. I didn't think it would go that high. But I didn't wake up any later than I normally do, so late waking isn't the reason.

MrsJackson05 Maybe an implantation dip? Let's hope!

MrsJackson, yay for solid lines! I loved seeing those the one month it happened for me. I hope I get 'em again this month. It's definitely good to BD now and then just for fun. Here's hoping your little temp dip is an implantation one!


I'm hoping you're right girls. How's my chart look today? Still look that way to you?

[Dotsie]

MrsJackson Your chart looks awesome. I hope it was an implantation dip and recovery. If it was a dip you could possibly test + in about 2 days (don't test that soon though, you'll drive yourself batty ;) )

[armadillo]

I discovered something today...last night I actually got a FULL NIGHT's worth of sleep. I didn't wake up once and surprise! My temp was actually low! In last month's chart, I barely saw a temp shift, but I hardly ever get a full night's sleep. DH wakes me up when he gets to bed or goes to the bathroom. Or I'll need to get up to go to the bathroom, or I'm cold/hot and need to adjust the blankets, etc. I hardly ever get the required 3 hours of sleep before getting up. Last night we were so exhausted that we both passed out and didn't wake up til the alarm went off.

[cowgirl]

PolkadotSorry about AF showing up. Hope your doctor will start on testing.
Dotsie My last cycle was 30 and the cycle before that was 37. Gymwidow unsure but maybe the cd is off. Hope your egg drops today. Thanks for the advice.
Sabriel Sorry about the bfn. Hoping it was just to early. Thanks for the advice.
MrsM Hope this is it for you.

[MichelleRenee]

I got red crosshairs!! Woohoo!!!

Threadmistress, please move me to "I think I O'ed" I will test around 12/20 so you may need a new category.:D

[dionysia]

Polkadot: sorry about AF.

Gymwidow: I'll probably test next Friday.

My chart is incomplete, since I've had to discard 3 days of temps in a row now thanks to getting over my cold. Damn FF kept changing my O date. It was a fever and infection, stupid program! :mad:

Di

[cat_loverpq]

I spy an MBFP!! ;) CONGRATS!

[Dotsie]

I spy it as well.... here's to a H&H 9 month. Now make yourself known and drop off some baby dust :D

[gymwidow]

Oooh, for once, I see it too! Congrats MBFP!!!! :D

[Aletheia]

polka- ugh, i'm so sorry. I've been so uptight about this, my first cycle TTC, and when you announced you were going to sort of take it easy I thought to myself, "geez, she's right, that's probably the way to go. I'm probably being my own worst enemy, trying to control everything." And now AF for you... this TTC game sucks! Just tell me the rules and I'll play by them, stinkhead AF. I'm sorry. I'm glad you have the dr's appt. to look ahead to.

congrats MBFP! It's okay to celebrate! One day at a time!

Charting Question: Please tell me that I'm being paranoid. My chart clearly indicates O, right? So why am I still having EWCM? Feel free to say, A, chill out and wait another day. But I've never had an annov cycle before, or multiple patches of fertile CM. Is there a good chance this temp rise isn't O?

[JayJay]

I haven't spied the MBFP yet, but I'm verrrryyyy curious as to who it is! Come out, come out where ever you are! :D

[suzfuzsunflower]

I need to be changed to waiting to O

I thought that I had ovulated last week, but then my temps. went DOWN. :mad: However, in the past 3 days I have had fertile CM, and a lot today. Also, my temp has gone back up so I'm hoping that I'll O soon. This is all really frusterating!

[shouldaeloped]

CONGRATULATIONS MBFP!!!! and Alethia is right. . it is okay to celebrate. one day at a time!

[Jenzen01]

yep. big congrats to the MBFP from me, too. :)

[Mystikal]

Congrats to the MBFP!! I'm sending lots of stickies your way!! :D

[B]~*~*~*BABY DUST*~*~*~ to all the upcoming testers!! :D

[Bellefior]

I see you! Congrats MBFP!

[Sabriel]

Congrats MBFP!

[Applebee]

As usual, I don't see the MBFP and I'm pretty sure I check everyone's chart...URGH!!!

Insurance Update: Well, my insurance does not cover IVF :( however, DH's does :D! Since my current coverage ends 12/31, I will transfer to his!! It turns out MD law mandates the small companies (under 50 ppl) cannot cover IVF. I tried to get our broker to add this coverage to our new policy for 2006, but that's when he told me about this law. This is the first time I've worked for a small company (I knew I liked big companies for some reason!), so that's why I assumed it would be covered since it's always been covered in the past.

My chart is not looking good this month. I had originally planned on us BDing like crazy, but I was just so nervous about the RE appt, then still nervous afterwards that we didn't BD at all. I did take my OPKs from last Saturday through Wednesday and they were all negative. I'm on CD20 with no sign of O and my temp is still low. Guess I'm still a barrell of nerves.

I'll probably start the IVF route in January.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here!

[Ilovemygeek]

I found it! Congratulations to our MBFP!

[ptcrn]

AF arrived for me this morning too. :mad: It's so frustrating! Threadmistress, could you please move me to waiting to O? Thanks.

I haven't chart stalked yet, but congrats to the mystery BFP! I'm going to try to find it now.

[ABirney]

Hey everyone... hope you all are having a great night!
Congrats to the MBFP!!! H&H 9 months and Sticky vibes to you!
Welcome Chris-n-jen and Delaney21!
Sorry AF showed up polkadot, cowgirl, sare, and ptcrn. I hope this month is your month!
dionysia hope you are feeling better!
CTsPunkin yay for no S/E on the Clomid.. hopefully it will work!
Ilovemygeek not sure about the pains and spotting... hopefully the next couple days will give you some clues.
Dotsie holy temp jump today! Yay for staying calm!
gymwidow how frustrating! Hope that eggie pops out soon!
Sabriel hopefully those dreams will come soon in the next couple days! And the FPS will be RPS!
MrsJackson nice chart!!! Looks very promising!
Alethia and MichelleRenee hope you caught those eggies!
suz Hope you O soon!
Applebee good luck with the IVF! So glad to hear DH's insurance will cover it!
Sorry for anyone I missed!
I'm still hanging in here... having some light brown spotting on and off since Wed evening, cramps went away though... my temp did go down today though so hopefully it won't be too much longer before I can get cracking on a new cycle! Going to Fargo Christmas shopping for the weekend, and staying at my parent's house tomorrow (they live alot closer to there than we do) so maybe it will hold off until we get home Sunday night.

[polkadot]

oh yeah AF is here in full force and she is pissing me off.,...:mad: i havent had cramps like this in years....

i had a dr appt today for an eye infection and i brought my charts along...and she looked over them and pretty much told me what i already knew from you guys...i have very pretty charts and i am ovulating....see didnt seem too concerned that it hasnt happened for us yet...she wants us to try for atleast 3 more months and then she says we can start to worry...she will start bloodwork and SA after that...so...i just need to calm down a little bit and pray that it happens for us in the meantime...

i am off to look for the MBFP!!! ETA: I found it...Congrats girlie!!!! H&H 9 months to you!!

[Aletheia]

I got my dotted crosshairs this morning. I'm feeling fairly confident that they will soon be solid. So, dear threadmistress, you can add me to waiting to O- testing 12/21.

polka- Sounds like you're on the right track with the dr.! Hooray!

[suzfuzsunflower]

I am REALLY hating my chart this month, and am really frusterated. I do not O on my own, this is my first cycle on clomid, and I guess I thought that the medicine was going to fix everything. :rolleyes: Well today is CD 23, no O, my CM is confusing me, and temps go UP like I'm going to O, and then....go DOWN. :mad:

If anyone has any insight at all into my chart, I would appreciate it! Thanks!

I see the MBFP too. Congratulations!

[MichelleRenee]

Congrats MBFP!!

suzfuzsunflower, I understand your frustration. I personally don't seem to until until CD23-25, so there is still a chance you might O today, tomorrow or even later. Don't give up hope!!

Aletheia, dotted crosshairs are better than no crosshairs! Good luck to you!!!

polkadot, so sorry about AF. Hopefully she'll ease up a bit on you. It sounds like you and your doctor are on the right track. Hopefully you'll get a BFP before you have to see her again!!

ABirney, good luck on your new cycle. I hope it starts soon for you!

ptcrn, so sorry about AF.

Applebee, I'm glad DH's insurance covers IVF! That must be such a relief.

My temp was up again today. I am 4DPO and just hoping this will be it for us....

[Dotsie]

sorry about AF pctrn. {{hugs}}
I'm still waiting to O. I had 2 high temps in a row, if I get one more I will get dotted crosshairs even though I know I haven't O'd yet. This morning's was skewed because I had to get up with my DS at 0230 because he is sick and I normally temp at 0400. That and the fact that the heat was blasting in my house last night. Too hot!! I'm not stressing out because I'll just override my O day if FF doesn't adjust it.

[Delaney21]

Ohhh I see the MBFP!! Congrats and H&H 9 months to you!

[JayJay]

Boo....I still can't find that MBFP! :rolleyes:

Today is 8DPO. Temp went down a bit again today...not much though. It's still pretty high.

MrsJackson nice chart!!! Looks very promising!


Thanks, Lady! :p

[Aletheia]

Threadmistress, I'm taking back my earlier update. I don't think I've o'd yet, dotted cross hairs or no. The volume of EWCM says they are not accurate. At all. So don't move me anywhere quite yet. :D

[MichelleRenee]

I have the slightest, tiniest amount of spotting today. I know it is way too early at 4DPO for implantation spotting. I know I am obsessing, but I just have to know... does anyone think it is possible I actually O'ed on CD20 and the CD23's low temp was just a fluke, and therefore it could be implantation spotting? I guess I am going to cling to every FPS as usual...

[Aletheia]

Michelle- Hmm. Why did you discard the high temp three days before the end of wet cm?

[Sabriel]

MichelleRenee I'm not sure honey. Based on temps alone, I would think that you Oed on CD 25, but your CM dried up before that. Sorry, I'm no help. :o

MrsJackson05 Hang in there. I hope this is it for you!

Dotsie Hope you O soon!

suzfuzsunflower It doesn't look like you've Oed yet to me either. Sorry, sweetie. I hope you do O this cycle and soon!

polkadot Sorry about AF and the eye infection. Yuck! It sounds like you and your doctor have a plan!

I am 11 DPO today. I was good and didn't test! I may test tomorrow morning if AF stays away. She could show her ugly face anytime now. I am still having tons of FPS, so I am hopeful!

Hope everyone's having a good weekend!

[Alioop12345]

May I join?

Me: Alioop12345 (33)
DH: Aron
DS: Jacob (02/03/04)
TTC #2 since 5/05 (Seeking help from RE using Gonal F, progesterone, estrodial, and HcG...probably going to use Viagra next cycle)

I am going in for bloodwork on Monday but I am sure that I did not get PG this cycle...just a feeling. I am 9DPO today....

[ajlanden]

Okay, so I guess I will reveal myself. I have been very busy these past few days and finally had a few minutes. I got a BFP yesterday. I am not too positive this is it because I am spotting and this is exactly how my m/c was. Lot's of spotting. I am trying to take one day at a time.

Anyway, can I wait a little bit before I become an official graduate?

Thanks ladies for everything! I am pulling for all of you!

[jjsanner]

Hey Ali, good to see you over here!

MichelleRenee, I had implantation spotting at 5 DPO with my DS, so you never know....

Sabriel, test already! Your chart looks great!

As for me, 10 DPO today but I'm pretty sure I'm out. I'm not spotting, per se, but when I wipe with the TP it's red tinged (sorry if TMI!) and I had bad backache cramps last night. Although they've disappeared today....HMMMM

[MichelleRenee]

I discarded that temp because I took it 3 hours late and after having been up for 30 minutes and then only sleeping another hour. I woke up suddenly because my nephew was here and he woke up and was crying so I didn't have time to temp. I appreciate all of you commenting on it for me.... as soon as I posted I felt dumb because I know I am being obsessive.

The slight spotting continues and I have had some very mild cramping. I'm giving this a great big :confused: :confused: :confused: .

Again, thanks for the input. You ladies help keep me sane!

[JayJay]

I'm so proud of myself for not obsessing this month. Last month, I was a nutcase, but this month hasn't really bothered me at all. I don't really understand why, but it hasn't.

I did however buy some tests today. I'm hoping that I can at least wait a couple of days. FF says that I should test on the 21st, but that's a really looonnnggg time for me to wait. How soon should I test, ladies?

[MichelleRenee]

I would try to wait until at least 14-15DPO if I were you, MrsJackson. Even with Dollar Store HPT's testing too early can get costly, both financially and emotionally.

Hang in there! It seems like it will be forever before you can test, but the week will fly by!

[dionysia]

I'm so proud of myself for not obsessing this month. Last month, I was a nutcase, but this month hasn't really bothered me at all. I don't really understand why, but it hasn't.Same here.

Maybe because I had a cold and realize that every weird twinge could be related to that?

Maybe it's because I'm obsessing/stressing over Christmas instead? ;)

Di

[JayJay]

Maybe it's because I'm obsessing/stressing over Christmas instead?

That could very well be! I'll use that as my reason! :p

[polkadot]

mrs. jackson- your chart is looking good....crossing all crossables....:D

[Sabriel]

(Deep breath)

I went to Walmart this morning while DH was still asleep and bought some Equates. Tested when I got home and there is a plus. OMG the line is faint, but it is there! It showed up at about 3 minutes.

DH is still asleep, but when he gets up I will try to post some pics. Hopefully you all will be able to see the line too! I will retest tomorrow and hope the line is darker then.

[gator97]

Sabriel--- OMG!!! I am so excited for you!! Fingers crossed that the line is darker tomorrow. Can't wait to see pics!

[kmmommy]

Fingers crossed for you Sabriel!

[MichelleRenee]

OMG, Sabriel! That is wonderful! I knew your chart was looking good!

[ptcrn]

Congrats ajlanden and sabriel! Sticky vibes going out to both of you!

[ausi2b]

A teeny tiny congratulations Sabriel! Sticky vibes!

Could you all give me some advice on my chart? I'm only on CD7 but woke up with EWCM this morning?!? I wasn't going to start my OPKs until CD 10 or 11 (I o'd on CD 15 last month) but what the heck is this??

[Aletheia]

ausi- (is that supposed to be "ozzy"?)- your period was shorter, and maybe your ovaries, in strict differentiation from mine, just want to get things rolling. If I were you, I'd have some nookie or, if you have the $, consider beginning with the OPKs. Better safe than sorry, right?

Ladies, I need some advice. My temp fell again. As of pre-nookie time this morning, my CM seemed to be drying up a bit, but my cervix was still pretty high. What's going on? Do you think I've o'd yet or not?

Just looking at my overlay will give you an idea of how weird this chart is for me. Any advice/insight would really be welcome. :confused:

[ds2003]

Sabriel - Congrats, will your OB be doing any additional monitoring this time or will things progress as normal?

ajlanden - Congrats. I hope the spotting is just left over implantation spotting.

[Sabriel]

ds2003 I think that everything will go on as normal. I will call my MW in the morning.

Aletheia Wow, that is a tough one. You only had 2 elevated temps, so I am thinking that you haven't Oed yet? Keep BDing just in case!

ausi2b If you saw EWCM, then start BDing! You may be Oing early, so starting OPKs today might be a good idea. Good lluck!

I woke DH up and told him. He said "Cool!" LOL He say the line too, so I am not crazy. We talked and decided that we want to enjoy every minute of this PG, so I am going to try my hardest.

Anyhow, here it is:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c230/Sabriel748/BFP12-11-05.jpg

Can you see a +?

[ds2003]

Sabriel - I see the plus...it looks faint like my first one did. When I saw mine for the first time..my heart almost skipped a beat.

[MichelleRenee]

I see it! Congrats!

[JayJay]

Congrats, Sabriel!!

9DPO today, and had another temp drop this morning. I'm kinda weary about this one. I've been having some mild cramping, but nothing big. A little nausea, but not too bad.

On the other hand, I'm starting to get antsy about testing. I would really like to, but I think that's only because I went out and bought tests yesterday. Silly me. I'd better wait.

[polkadot]

Sabriel- so excited for you....ok if this is it for you...it must have something to do with being co-threadmistress...i have to be next...;) So excited for you...do you have more test for tomorrow morning....or maybe a digital test...this is it for you...so excited...

mrsjackson- how long is your LP usually?


good luck everyone:D

[Tonysweetie]

Sabrial: I see it!!!!


Hey girls I've been lurking in here for a lonnnggg time. I still can't offically join b/c DH isn't quite on board yet but were in the "seeing what happens stage" Well I want somebody pllleasseee to tell me what is going on with my chart! I'm 29 DPO and no AF! I've gotten nothing but negatives and have no idea what is going on. The doctor was no help just told me to wait it out and won't do a blood test. What is going on??!!! Thanks girls!

ps my name is Leslie DH name is Tony and we've been married 8 months!

[JayJay]

mrsjackson- how long is your LP usually?


You know, since this is my first full month of charting I'm not really sure. Last month I didn't take temps until the end of my cycle. Last months cycle was 47 days. But that was reaaallllyyyy long for me. So long in fact, that I thought we had caught an eggie the first try. But I wasn't pregnant. The weird thing is that I wasn't under any stress either. I coudn't figure it out.

The cycle before that ran about 33-34 days. So, I'm not really sure on the details. That's bad, huh?! :o

[ajlanden]

Yay for Sabriel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am smiling big for you!


Mrsjackson-Crossing my fingers for you!

[ausi2b]

Decided on a whim to take an OPK this afternoon/evening and its close to positive?!? Last month I o'd on cd 14 or 15 (I forget) but this was close to the day before O test! Isn't it WAY too early (I'm on CD7!!)

[Mystikal]

Sabriel I see it! It's darker than my original BFP was at 12dpo so I hope this is the sticky one for you!!! :D CONGRATULATIONS!

[polkadot]

mrsjackson- its not bad that you dont know...you are new at this and thats ok...were you on BCP before this....my first cycle off of BCP was very long...i didnt O until cycle day 25 ...but after that they became pretty normal...we will have more to go by next month...dont freak....it will all work out....your chart still looks ok,....you are still above your coverline..so chin up:D

tonysweetie- why wont your dr. atleast give you a blood test...thats weird...i hope you get a BFP soon....

Sabriel- again CONGRATS!!! i am sooo excited for you...

[cat_loverpq]

Just popping in to say CONGRATS to Sabriel!! Lots of **sticky vibes**! :D

tonysweetie ~ I can't believe your dr won't give you a blood test! Your temps obviously show you ovulated. A co-worker of mine knew she was pg but kept getting BFN's at home. She went to the dr and her blood tests kept coming back negative as well...she finally got a + blood test about a month after Oing, so there's still hope for an answer for you! Good luck!

[Aletheia]

tonysweetie-I've been thinking about you and your chart. Have you done any reading about corpus luteum cysts? I think I remember reading somewhere that a type of ovarian cyst-- they're usu. benign-- can occur on the corpus luteum. That's the globule that is responsible for generating the higher-than-follicular-phase levels of progesterone, and consequently is responsible for your elevated post-o temps. I think it's possible to have a cyst make the corpus luteum get stuck in the "on" position for longer than usual, resulting in a protracted luteal phase. But I don't have any personal experience with that. I just thought it might be another alternative. Granted, its a no-baby alternative, but I bet at this point you more just want to know! My body is being uncooperative right now too and it is SOOOO frustrating to just want to know what's going on!

Good luck to you. I did a quick google search and this site may be a place to start:
http://www.gynsecondopinion.com/ovarian-cysts.htm

[JayJay]

mrsjackso