TTC w/ Charting Vol 8 - Hoping to fill our stockings with BFPs!

[Charting is Knowledge]

TTCers of ConstantChatter:
Charting Our Course to the BFPs

http://www.ripleysorlando.com/images2/fertilitystatues.jpg
The fertility statues are known to work for some who rub them around the time of possible conception.
It is said that the baby is the most potent part of the statue.

So rub away! :D It's worth a shot!


Who we are:
This is a group of women using charting (temperatures, CM, CP, OPK/FM results, or a combination of these) to try to conceive and, along the way, are learning a heckuvalot about their own bodies! Many of us use a software program to keep track of our charts as well as allowing us to share them with each other. The most common ones are FertitlityFriend.com and Ovusoft.com.

Your threadmistresses for this thread are Polkadot and Sabriel!

To our members:
This thread gets very busy at times, so in order to keep things less overwhelming and a bit more organized, we start a new thread each month as well as after 3 BFPs. A link to the new thread is always posted at the end of the current thread to help everyone find their way over. The threadmistress would really appreciate it if everyone would post their updates in Red. That way, if I get a bit behind, it is much quicker to get the thread up-to-date.


Previous Thread... (http://www.constantchatter.com/showthread.php?t=10146)


KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!

Want to join the fun??
We welcome one and all. It doesn’t matter if you have never charted before or if you’ve been charting to avoid. I am sure you will find lots of help and support in this group.

If you would like to join, CD1 is the time to do it! That way, we can cheer you on
throughout your cycle, rather than 2 days before you test! :cool:

Please don't be discouraged by the number of posts in this thread. You don’t have to read the whole thread to join. Feel free to just jump in on the last page. Just read through these first couple of posts and post a reply with the following information and we will get you added right away. Of course, none of this info is a must but we like to know a little bit about one another.


CC Name:
Me: name/age
DH: name/age
Married since: date
Off BCP since: date
TTC since: date
Charting since: date
Known issues/test results:
Chart: link
Current status: waiting to O, What the bleep .., testing...

[Charting is Knowledge]

- Member ETF Status -

Lutealating:

Think I O'ed- Testing 12/5-12/11:
ajlanden (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2fdee), cowgirl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f3285), neenbean (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/66982), Ptcrn (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bed5d)

Think I O'ed- Testing 12/12-12/18:
Dionysia (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/fdec3), Jnshanna (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cafa6), MrsJackson05 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e581e), Sabriel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c), suzfuzsunflower (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/90828)

Folliculating:
Waiting to O (aka - Boring Part of the Cycle)
Aletheia (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a0c60), Applebee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/98534), Armadillo (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f25aa), ausi2b (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f7062), bumble, Bellefior (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6231d), Copswife03 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/daf53), CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas), Deanna1018 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2979), Dlj78 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=dlj78), Dotsie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e00ca), gator97 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/84b2d), gmb4503 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/28f73), Graciebella (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7a038), Gymwidow (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/813ab), Hiker04 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e86f8), Ilovemygeek (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bec65), jeant ( http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/5ef37), Jjsanner (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/24f94), JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf), Katmg (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/89994), Kiddo (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/kiddo), LDS Angel 19 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/64d1c), Marteneym (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fa78), Mayham (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/be39e), MichelleRenee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e174a), Quartercentury (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3313f), Sare79 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/fe765), UTChick (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf25d)

Stagnating:
What the *bleep* is going on?!?!
ABirney (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrsabirney)

Chart not Updated -- Waiting for an update:
Kristi32302 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/45b0a), Spencer's_Girl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6f9cc)

Taking a Charting Break/Temporarily TTA:
Catloverpq (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/da20b), Ellidew (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/78d2a), Hula1974 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/905ef), Polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d)

Percolating:
Expecting Mommies!

BFP's in December: (3)
Abby's Mom, jeggink (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1c595), Mrs. M. (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/1a234)

BFP's in November: (7)
Almostthere, Ellebelle (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2f8f5), Jesseybell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cd4f1), Lindybug (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99db2), Linnybubbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2330), mkvh (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/99502), mrst2b2003

BFPs in October: (18)...We Broke the Record for most BFP's in One Month!!!!
amurphy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a5e06), Bottleored (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/44b0a), BunnyBeth (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e5de5), Calla Lily (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b025d), Ds2003 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/ds2003), Gardenia (http://www.tcoyf.com/forum/chart.asp?id=gardeniacc), jbenny75 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/803b1), Kaeden's Mommy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bcdb2), Lizard (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/af125), Mystikal (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/RaeK622), nuhmah (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/d72dc), Ryan (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3f12b), SarahnCraig (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c1846), Shouldaeloped (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/63d7a), Soulmate (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Soulmate), Klav (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21291), ShelbyMay (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/67c07), Wrighty26 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/beb7b)

BFPs in September: (2)
Baby Lust (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Shanes_Angel), Lowcountrywed (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c4aeb)

BFPs in August: (11)
Akachan93 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/229b9), Crazycaro (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/21ac6), Guinness (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=10&id=guinness&tc=0&p=), jeeplover (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/721bb), Indiana Bride (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/1d936), LittleStar (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c204a), Mel7dog (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ca05d), Missy329 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2b4de), MMHinCA (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c14c1), Sinclair319 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/sinclair319), Stumbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b1333), Uskiku (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cdfb0)

BFPs in July: (10)
Elenitsa (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?cycle=13&id=elenitsa&tc=0&p=), Heidi0622 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/549f8), Jane&Andy (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/c455f), Kopper (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/9e5e6), MrsCantDecide (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59e5b), Red_Canuck, Sevilla, ShannonGH (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ShannonGH), Tracie (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/a18c8), Tunibell (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/59461)

BFPs in June: (2)
Christy5599, Lovin'it

Tributatoring:
Proud Cheerleaders!
T3h_wookie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/25336)

Please advise if I’m off-target with your ETF (that's Estimated Test-Fest) or other status, or just need a good old-fashioned Ovary Shout!

-- Please remember to post all updates in red! Thank you!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Our Members:

ABirney (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=mrsabirney)
Me: Angie, 30
DH: Scott, 29
Married since: Sept 25, 2004
Off BC since: Dec '04
TTC since: Sept '05
Charting since: Dec 20 '04
Known issues: none

ajlanden (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2fdee)
Me: Ashley, 28
DH: Doug, 33
Married since: 6/28/03
DD: Danielle Judith 12/15/04
Off BCP since: 8/05
TTC since: NOW!
Charting since: 8/12
Known issues/test results: M/C at 7 weeks 10/05

Aletheia (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a0c60)
Me: Aletheia, 28
DH: Mr. Ramsey, 28
Married since: August 7, 2004
Off BCP since: on briefly in 1999?
TTC since: December 1, 2005!
Charting since: March, 2005
Known issues/test results: none known

Applebee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/98534)
Me: Lori Ann
DH: Ted
Married: 4.4.03
Chart: since Feb '05
Known issues/test results:
Day3 Test all ok, DH's SA ok, but will have another one done. Motility on the low side

Armadillo (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f25aa)
Me: 27
DH: 30
Married since: 10/2004
Off BCP since: 7/2005
TTC since: 8/2005
Charting since: 11/2005
Known issues/test results: none

ausi2b (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f7062)
Me: ausi2b, 27
DH: 28
Married since:
Off BCP since: Oct/Nov 2005
TTC since: Oct/Nov 2005
Charting since: Oct/Nov 2005
Known issues: None

Bellefior (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6231d)
ME: 36
DH: 36
Married since: 5/31/03
Off BCP since: 5/05
TTC since: 5/05
Charting since: 5/05
Known issues/test results: None

Bumble
DH: 33
Married since: 8.2003
TTC since: 4.2005
Charting since: 1.2005
Known issues/test results: miscarriage 6.2005 (8 weeks)

Cat_loverpq (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/da20b)
Married since: 6/5/04
Off BCP since: February 2005
TTC since: 8/19/05
Charting since: February 2005
Known issues/test results: Autoimmune Thyroid Disorder

Copswife03 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/daf53)
Me: Brooke/25
DH: Joe/27
Married since: 10/11/2003
Off BCP since: 8/20/2005
TTC since: 8/20/2005
Charting since: 8/22/2005
Known issues/test results: None

cowgirl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f3285)
Me: 28
DH: 32
Married since: 6/14/2003
TTC since: 6/14/2004
Charting since: 10/24/2005
Known issues/test results:

CTs Punkin (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/mmthomas)
ME: MMT age 33
DH: CT age 36
Married: 11/04
Off BCP: 12/04
TTC since: 01/05
Known issues/test results: Long cycles

Dlj78 (http://www.ovusoft.com/forum/chart.asp?id=dlj78)
Me: Dana/27
DH: Nick/31
Married since: 9/18/04
Off BCP since: 2/2005
TTC since: 6/2005
Charting since: 2/2005
Known issues/test results: none

Deanna1018 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2979)
Me:37
DH:38
Married since: 9-6-03
TTC since: Will start Jan 06'
Charting since: October 2005
Known issues/test results: None

Dionysia (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/fdec3)
Me: Di, 30
DH: Dave, 34
Married since:
TTC since: May '05
Charting since: Nov '05
Known issues: none

Dotsie (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e00ca)
Me: Dorothy 31
DH: Sean 34
Married: 10/27/01
DS: Aidan 6/27/03
TTC #2: 9/2005
Known issues/test results: none

Ellidew (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/78d2a)
Me: ellidew, 25
DH: 27
Married since: June 1, 2002
Off BCP since: 01/2005
TTC since: 07/2005
Charting since: 01/2005
Known issues/test results: none

Gator97 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/84b2d)
Me: Kristen/30
DH: Peter/30
Married since: 11/06/04
Off BCP since: 12/04
TTC since: 02/05
Charting since: 12/04
Known issues/test results: dx endometriosis/adenomyosis 08/05
m/c 09/28/05

gmb4503 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/28f73)
CC Name: gmb4503
Me: Gina/26
DH: Steve/27
Married since: April 5, 2003
Off BCP since: Sept 2003
TTC since: June 2004
Charting since: Sept 2004
Known issues/test results: SA-normal, taking 50mg Clomid

graciebella (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7a038)
Me: graciebella/34
DH: hubby /29
Married since: 10/09/04
Off BCP since: long time
TTC since: 10/04, with 6 month break
Charting since: 10/05
Known issues/test results: 1 blocked tube, irregular ovulation

Gymwidow (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/813ab)
Me: Melissa/28
DH: Alan/29
Married since: June '03
Off BCP since: Feb. '05
TTC since: June '05
Charting since: Feb. '05
Known issues/test results: PCOS diagnosed 9/05; 50 mg Clomid 11/05

Hiker04 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e86f8)
Me: C, 26
DH: K, 37
Married since: 9-4-2004
Off BCP since: 5-2004
TTC since: 6-2005
Charting since: 6-2005
Known issues/test results: m/c Aug 4, 2005

Hula1974 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/905ef)
Me: Heather/31
DH: Tim/31
Married since: 6/8/02
Off BCP since: 8/04
TTC since: 10/05
Charting since: 2/05
Known issues: Migraine Headaches

Ilovemygeek (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bec65)
Me: Rachel (23)
DH: Trevor (23)
Married since: June 8, 2002
Off BCP since: June 12, 2005
TTC since: As soon as my cycles regulate themselves
Charting since: June 12, 2002
Known issues/test results: None

jeant (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/5ef37)
Me: Jean, 34
DH: Craig, 33
Married since: June 19, 2004
Off BCP since: June 5, 2004
TTC since: November 1, 2005
Charting since: July 2004
Known issues: Autoimmune thyroid disorder, correlated with higher risk of miscarriage.

Jjsanner (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/24f94)
Me: Jen, 30
DH: Eric, 33
DS: Elijah, born 2/6/2004
Married since: 4/26/2003
Off BCP since: 10/2004
TTC since: 6/2005
Charting since: 10/2004
Known issues/test results: None

Jnshanna (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/cafa6)
Me: Shanna/29
DH: Jose/30
Married since: 10/01/94
Off BCP since: Haven't been on BCP for many years.
TTC since: July 2005
Charting since: 8/07/05
Known issues/test results: None

JodyLovesScotty (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/875bf)
Me: Jody, 32
DH: Scott, 31
Married Since: August 30, 2003
Off BCP Since: At least 10 years now
Charting Since: January 2005
Known issues/test results: None

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Members continued...

Katmg (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/89994)
Me: Katmg, 26
DH: Jim, 30
Married since: Nov. 8, 2003
Off BCP since: 05/04
Charting since: 08/04
TTC since: 05/05
Known issues/test results: None

kiddo (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/kiddo)
Me: Karen, 29
DH: Nate, 30
Married since: Oct 26, 2002
Off BC since: July '04
TTC since: August '04
Charting since: August '05
Known issues: none

Kristi32302 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/45b0a)
Me: Kristi/31
DH: Kelly/32
Married since: March 23, 2002
Off BCP since: Feb. 2004
TTC since: May 2004
Charting since: March 2004
Known issues/test results: None

LDS Angel 19 (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/64d1c)
Me: Michelle, 22
DH: Aaron, 23
Married since: Sept 4th 2004
Angel: Allison Grace, born and died June 17 2005
Off BCP since: Never on BCP
TTC (again) since: August 2005
Charting since: Charted August, took September off, and now starting again.
Known issues/test results: None at this time

Linnybubbles (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/f2330)
Me: Lindsey/26
DH: Stephen/30
Married since: 7/23/05
Off BCP since: 7/31/05
TTC since: 8/1/05
Charting since: 10/21/05
Known issues/test results:

Marteneym (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/7fa78)
Me: 22
DH: 27
Married since: October 4, 2003
SWH since: October 2004
TTC since: December 2004
Off BCP since: September 2004
Known issues/test results: Delayed Ovulation, SA issues, Varicocele possible
9/9 FSH and Rubella- NORMAL
9/12 SA ABNORMAL- count 30mil/
motility 30% -repeat in 8wks

Mayham (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/be39e)
Me: 28
DH: 28
Married since: 5.02
TTC since: 3.05
Charting since: 5.05
Known issues/test results: None

MichelleRenee (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/e174a)
Me: Michelle/ 23
DH: Michael/ 29
Married since: May 29, 2005
Off BCP since: September 2005
TTC since: September 2005
Charting since: October 2005
Known issues/test results: none so far!

MrsJackson05 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/e581e)
Me: Jessica/23
DH: Travis/29
Married since: September 10th, 2005
TTC since: October, 2005
Charting since: Ocober 2005
Known issues/test results:

neenbean (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/66982)
Me: 30
DH: 30
Married since: 11/15/03
Off BCP since: 2/04
TTC since: waiting until 1/06
Charting since: 10/05/05 (also did before BFP with DD)
Known issues/test results: none

Polkadot (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/b9a0d)
Me: lauren 26
DH: brian 27
Married since: 11-20-04
Off BCP since: May 05
TTC since: May 05
Charting since: May 05
Known issues/test results: none

Ptcrn (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bed5d)
Me: Jen/30
DH: Gerry/29
Married since: July 30th 2005
Off BCP since: August 14th 2005
TTC and Charting since: August 14th 2005
Known issues/test results: none

Purplesunshine7
Me:
DH:
Married since: 4/5/03
Off BCP since:
TTC since: 7/05
Known issues/test results: m/c 6/2/05

Quartercentury (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/3313f)
Me: QC, 27
FH: just FH, also 27
Married since: nope, we're skipping straight to the baby part
Off BCP since: no BCP, off hormonal contraceptives since 10/2003
TTC since: 12/05
Charting since: 10/03
Known issues/test results: Sometimes short LP

Sabriel (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/4431c)
Me: C, 24
DH: J, 23
Married since: May 22, 2005
Off BCP since: Never on BCP
TTC since: August 2, 2005
Charting since: May 8, 2004
Known issues/test results: m/c on October 15, 2005 @ 6 weeks 4 days

Sare79 (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/fe765)
Me: Sarah, 26
DH: Joel, 25
Married since: October 15, 2005
Off BCP since: May, 2005
TTC since: June 2005
Charting since: November 1, 2005
Known issues/test results: m/c in 2002

Spencer's_Girl (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/6f9cc)
Me: melissa / 24
DH: keith / 34
Married since: Sept. 11, 2004
Off BCP since: August 26, 2004
TTC since: Sept. 11, 2004
Charting since: November 20, 2004
Known issues/test results: None

suzfuzsunflower (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/90828)
Me: Susannah
DH: Matt
Married since: 8/9/03
Off BCP since: 3/05
TTC since: 3/05
Charting since: 3/05
Known issues/test results: annovulatory, long cycles; taking clomid

UTChick (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/bf25d)
Me: Kathy 28
DH: Mike 34
Married since: September 20, 2003
Off BCP since: December 2004
TTC since: May 2005
Charting since: May 2005
Known issues/test results: None

[Charting is Knowledge]

Things I Have Learned About TTC
by WC's Sherylb

* TTC is a journey. You will discover things about yourself that you never expected. You will face fears you never thought you had. You will find joy in little things.

* TTC can bring you closer to your DH, or it can pull you apart. If your marriage is not solid, you will find out quickly.

* No one understands exactly what you are feeling at any given moment, but someone can empathize at least a little bit.

* You will experience an emotional roller coaster ride. There will be highs and lows and fast moments and slow. Sometimes you have to wait in a very, very slow moving line. You may not even get the seat you want. It is not always fun, it can be scary, but in the end it is worth it.

* "Just relax" is the last thing in the world you want to hear from someone, but it is OK if you say it about yourself.

* There will be moments when you question your own decision to start TTC. You will wonder if you should wait or if you should just give up. Those are normal. But you will get past those feelings.

* The blue and green turtle likes to pop its head out! You will hear of someone's pregnancy and turn green with envy and blue inside because it isn't you.

* It isn't fair, it isn't easy, and it isn't pretty. But you keep doing it because the reward is worth it.

* You will be your best friend and your worst enemy. Your body will
surprise you and yet disappoint you.

* Some women do get lucky and conceive right away. Others aren't so lucky and have to struggle to get there. Hope you will be in the first category, but prepare yourself to be in the second.

* Once you decide to TTC, there will be babies and pregnant women everywhere! You could swear there is a baby boom going on!

* You will have questions. No one will ever be in exactly your position, so don't be surprised when no one can give you exactly the answer you are looking for. But there are people that can contribute, so don't be afraid to ask!

* Two lines on a pregnancy test is not the end of the struggle. Pregnancy has lots of struggles in and of itself.

[Charting is Knowledge]

HTP sensitivity chart

These numbers might come in handy when shopping for HPTs.
The lower the amount of mIU measured, the more sensitive the test is!

AimStick Pregnancy Test Strip 20 mIU
AccuHome Midstream Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Answer Pregnancy Test (Cup) 25 mIU
Clearblue +/- 25 mIU
Clearblue Digital 25 mIU
Confirm 1-Step Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Dollar Store Brand Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Equate Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
First Response Early Result Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
One Step Be Sure Pregnancy Test 25 mIU
Precise Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Quickview Pregnancy Test (doctors office) 25 mIU
Walgreen Digital 25 mIU
e.p.t. Home Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
Fact Plus Pregnancy Test 40 mIU
CVS Cartridge Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
CVS Midstream Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Drug Emporium Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. + / - Test 50 mIU
e.p.t. Certainty Digital Test 50 mIU
early Pregnancy test 50 mIU
RiteAid Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Target Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
WalMart Brand Pregnancy Test 50 mIU
Walgreens Pregnancy Test 100 mIU

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- Common TTC abbreviations

This is a list of some of the more common TTC abbreviations. I know as a newcomer to the TTC threads, it can be hard to keep them all straight. I hope these will help, and if anyone has any they would like added, please let me know!


•2WW: "2 week wait" - The approximate time from possible conception to menstruation due date; Pregnancy tests should be taken near the end of the 2WW.
•AF: "Aunt Flo"; Your period; Menstruation
•AFNW: "Aunt Flo Not Wanted"; the day your period is expected to start, but you are hoping it doesn't!
•AO: anovulatory (cycle without ovulation)
•BBs: "boobs"; breasts
•BBL: "be back later"
•BBT: Basal Body Thermometer; This is used to measure your basal body temperature, when you wake up in the morning, after at least 3 hours of sleep, before you start to move around; Use a special BBT thermometer to take your temperature because they measure the small changes in temperature from day to day more accurately than the regular fever thermometers.
•BCP: Birth control pills
•BD'ing: "baby dancing"; baby-making intercourse
•BFN: "Big Fat Neutral" or “Big Fat Negative”; Negative pregnancy test.
•BF'ing: breast-feeding
•BRB: "be right back"
•CD: cycle day; a particular day in your menstrual cycle (example: CD1 is the first day of your period)
•CL: Cover Line; a visual tool used to separate the low (pre-ovulatory) temps from high (post-ovulatory) temps; a coverline is typically based on the temperatures 6 days prior to ovulation.
•CM: cervical mucous; one of the most useful clues your body can give you in predicting your fertility; it can range from dry, creamy, sticky, or (the most fertile) egg white/watery type.
•CF: cervical fluid; same as cervical mucus
•CP: cervical position; an optional, but sometimes really useful, fertility sign; CP will generally be low, firm and closed before and after ovulation, and high, soft and open during your fertile time.
•DD: "dear daughter"
•DH: "dear husband"
•DS: "dear son"
•DPO: Days Past Ovulation; number of days from your post-ovulatory temperature rise. (Example: 1DPO is the day after your ovulation)
•Endo: endometriosis (can be a fertility problem)
•EDC and EDD: estimated date of confinement (antiquated, but still used by physicians) and estimated date of delivery
•EPT: a brand of pregnancy test, or, generic for "early pregnancy test"
•EW or EWCM: egg white cervical mucus; the most fertile quality CM; it is slippery, clear and stretchy, like egg whites; also EWCF
•FAM: Fertility Awareness Method; the method of fertility and/or birth control that correlates the physical changes you experience during your cycle to predict when you are most fertile
•FF: Fertility Friend, an online (free, for basic services) fertility charting site (website); (could also be formula feeding; check context)
•FM: fertility monitor
•FMU: first morning urine
•FP: follicular phase; the phase before ovulation, where the egg matures in the ovaries
•FRED: First Response Early Detection (pregnancy test)
•HCG: human chorionic gonadotropin; the hormone that is present during pregnancy and what the HPT's and blood test measure to determine if you are pregnant
•HTH: "hope that helps"
•HPT: home pregnancy test; a urine pregnancy test you can take at home
•IMHO: "in my humble opinion"
•IMO: "in my opinion"
•IUI: intra-uterine insemination
•IVF: in vitro fertilization
•KU: knocked up
•LH: leutenizing hormone; the LH surge is what is measured by the OPKs; this hormone signals the egg to burst from the ovary
•LP: luteal phase; the phase of your cycle that begins just after ovulation and continues for 10-18 days, ending with the start of your next period; during the LP, your body continues to build up the lining of your uterus, and produce hormones which would support a pregnancy; this is the time when a fertilized egg can implant into the uterine lining
•NFP: Natural Family Planning; similar to FAM, but with abstinence during the fertile period
•O, Oing, Oed: ovulation, ovulating, or ovulated
•OPK: ovulation predictor kit; tests for presence of LH surge that usually precedes ovulation by 12-48 hours; these tests are quite expensive and not always accurate (if you take medication or depending on your age); these are optional when charting with FF, but if your fertility data is not clear it can bring more light and help interpret difficult cases
•OS: Ovusoft; charting software based on TCOYF
•PCOS: polycystic ovarian syndrome (a fertility problem)
•PG: pregnant
•PIAC: pee in a cup
•POAS: pee on a stick
•RE: reproductive endocrinologist
•SA: semen analysis
•SH: "sweet husband"
•SO: "significant other"
•SYS, SYL : See ya soon! or See ya later!
•TCOYF: Taking Charge Of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler; a book and website about charting and fertility.
•TMI: "too much information" - There is no such thing when TTC!
•TTA: "trying to avoid"
•TTC: "trying to conceive"
•TTFN: "ta-ta for now"
•TTYL, TTYS: "talk to you later" or "talk to you soon"

[Charting is Knowledge]

Resources borrowed from Still At It:

Abbreviations and acronyms
List of TTC & IF acronyms written out (http://womens-place.com/ttc/ttcacronyms.php)

HPT Sensitivity Comparison Charts
Fertility Plus (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hpt.html)
Pee On A Stick (http://www.peeonastick.com/hpts.html)
Mama's Ark (http://www.mamasark.com/hpt.htm)
Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com/pregnancy-test-sensitivity.html)
Remember, the hCG starts at 1 at implantation and increases as time goes on, so the smaller amount of hCG it measures, the more sensitive the test is!

Books
Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler, MPH (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060937645/qid=1041654042/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

The Fertility Sourcebook by M. Sara Rosenthal, PHD (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0737303808/qid=1042220393/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)

Inconceivable by Ben Elton (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385334656/qid=1041659461/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)
The movie "Maybe Baby" (below) is based on this book

Inconceivable: A Woman's Triumph Over Despair and Statistics
by Julia Indichova (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0767908201/qid=1059292613/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

The Infertility Diet: Get Pregnant & Prevent Miscarriage by Fern Reiss (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1893290395/qid=1059292976/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

Conquering Infertility: Dr. Domar's Mind/Body Guide to Enhancing
Fertility & Coping with Infertility by Alice Domar, Phd (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0670031550/qid=1059293116/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/103-2812959-1358247)


Girlfriend to Girlfriend: A Fertility Companion by Kristen Magnacca (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1588202135/qid=1082306449/sr=8-2/ref=pd_ka_2/104-9895052-8814318?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

Movies
Maybe Baby (2001) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000062XKW/qid=1041654127/sr=8-4/ref=sr_8_4/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=video&n=507846)

She's Having A Baby (1988) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6300988996/qid%3D1041654195/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-0287896-1655948)

Websites (by subject)

Charting
Ovusoft aka TCOYF (http://www.ovusoft.com/)
The site for Toni Weschler's book which includes message boards, chat and cycle galleries which are very helpful.

Fertility Friend (www.fertilityfriend.com)
A free charting site which includes a lot of information and cycle galleries.

Local Support
RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/chapters/resolvenearyou.jsp?name=chapters)
Nation-wide referrals to local support groups and therapists.

The American Infertility Association (http://www.americaninfertility.org)
Lots of information and support, including message boards and chat rooms.

Financial Concerns
ARC: Advanced Reproductive Care (http://www.arcfertility.com/)
information on financing infertility treatments

Family Fee Plan (http://www.amerifee.com/fertility-financing/index.asp)
information on financing infertility treatments

State Insurance Requirements (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/advocacy/insurance/index.jsp?name=advocacy&tag=insurance)
Links from the Resolve site about insurance & laws.

Inciid's Insurance pages (http://www.inciid.org/index.php)
Click through menu on right for more financial topics and the insurance forum.

General TTC
Trying To Conceive.com (http://www.tryingtoconceive.com/)
All things TTC! Lots of info as well as a place to buy herbal therapies for
conceiving.

Baby Med (http://www.babymed.com/)
Tons of information. Everything from Chinese gender charts to an FAQ section on pretty much any TTC question you could have.

Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com)
Baby makin' supplies!

OBGYN.net (http://www.obgyn.net/)
Lots of general info on women's health. They also have doctors on line who
answer questions.

Infertility Sites
INCIID (http://www.inciid.org/)
Pronounced "inside". (The International Council on Infertility Information Dissemination)
Excellent national resource.

Resolve (http://www.resolve.org)
Wonderful site with lots of infertility information and support.

I dream of baby (http://www.idreamofbaby.com/fertility.php)
Learn the basics of fertility issues here. This site also has a great message
board community!

Fertility Plus.org’s list of female hormone levels (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hormonelevels.html#female)
Starting your fertility work-up? Check out this site to see a list of the
commonly tested female hormone levels, the function of each hormone, and the normal levels of each hormone.

Shared Journey (http://www.sharedjourney.com)
Shared Journey is dedicated to providing quality information on topics such as
infertility, miscarriage, surrogacy, pregnancy after infertility, living
child-free, and adoption. Our information is supplied by well noted Reproductive
Endocrinologist's, Psychologists, Adoption professionals and links through
various sites.

FertileHeart (http://www.fertileheart.com)
A community of people exploring holistic approaches to fertility. A site by
author Julia Indichova (see books above)

Specific IF Issues
Soul Cysters (http://www.soulcysters.com)
PCOS site with lots of support and info

Dr. Beer (http://www.repro-med.net)
Reproductive Immunology information, including lists of tests, pricing, local referrals

Reproductive Immunology Support (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/immunologysupport/)
Yahoo group for RI patients, tons of info and articles

Info for Family and Friends
Empty Arms (http://www.vocalicious.com/empty_arms/empty_arms_mod.html)
This is a great video so they can understand what you're going through. (And get out your kleenex!)

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[ajlanden]

First?

Thanks for the great new thread! Hopefully it will bring much luck!

Well, I'm back from Mexico. I didn't temp while there, but according to my CM, I am pretty sure I O'd Friday. So 2DPO!!

Please move me to Testing 12/5-12/11!

Ashley

[MichelleRenee]

I'm still around. I've been very busy.

Temps are down, but I don't think I'm due to O for at least another week, probably longer though.

I've been feeling very sick lately. I thought it was FPS, but I think it is just my acid reflux. It is so bad right now my esophagus is swollen and I gag pretty much 24/7. It sucks to feel sick and not be PG!

Anyways, I'll update if anything new happens.

[polkadot]

Thanks Sabriel.....you are the best....so much copy and pasting to start a new thread....;)

I wish this two weeks would hurry ....i am going to temp tomorrow jsut to see if my temp is in the post O range.....


come on BFP....:)

[gator97]

Hope everyone had a great Turkey day. We just got home from the in-laws. Turkey day for me started with a visit from AF. So, wonderful threadmistresses, please move me to Waiting to O.

[Ilovemygeek]

We just got back from vacation and I forgot to pack my thermometer! I had no fertile CM during our trip so I don't think it matters, but I was still mad at myself.

[JayJay]

Subscribing!

CD 8 for me, thinking that this cycle will just be the one to help me figure out my cycles. My main issue this month is to get a good idea for how my body works. :o (yes, I'm still doing that....)

[Wrighty26]

Just here to drop off some holiday ~BABY DUST~! I hope to see lots of BFPs this month :)

[LDS Angel 19]

Just checkin' in, CD 12 here and we're starting our BD fest early this month.

Hope everyone has a decent Monday, back to the daily grind.

[jeggink]

What a great new thread :D

9 DPO and just waiting. Not thinking this is it though. I should get AF on Thursday or Friday.

[neenbean]

I am 8DPO and hoping this is it... However, knowing that AF will probably be here on Friday. <sigh>

Good luck ladies!!!!

[Aletheia]

Hi ladies! I'm on CD9 and since I don't o until around CD19-23 I still have quite a wait in front of me. Ugh. How is it possible for days to go by so slowly? :)

But I certainly know what I'm asking Santa for this year! I want to see a BFP on Christmas morning!

[gymwidow]

CD10 here and the BDfest has begun. I'll start using OPKs probably tomorrow.

Anyone know if Provera or Clomid can cause you to have higher temps? My temps are usually high during the first few days of AF, but they've stayed high so far all cycle long. Maybe it's just warmer in my bedroom or something. I guess it really doesn't matter as long as they jump up after O!

Good testing vibes to all those in the 2WW!

[cat_loverpq]

Wishing everyone lots of holiday luck this month! :)

CONGRATS Jesseybell!

[gmb4503]

14DPO, temp went up again, but I couldn't get myself to test :rolleyes: I just can't take another BFN! I'll see what my temps look like for the next few days and go from there. I hate long LP's!!!!

[CTs_Punkin]

Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving! As for me, nothing new going on, just checking in.

FF gave me CH - but it's on crack... my CL is not 97.0... so just hanging out waiting to start clomid... the story of my last 3 weeks... it's starting to get old... Anyone up for doing an AF dance for me???

:D :) :D :)

[Soulmate]

gymwidow Clomid will make your temps higher and wackier. I stopped temping when I was on clomid until shortly before O.

Waving to QC ;) Congrats girl!

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~BABY DUST*~*~*~*~*~*~*

[Dotsie]

subscribing...
Temps went down again today. AF should be here tomorrow. Ready to get onto yet another cycle.

[Quartercentury]

Just wanted to offer some belated congratulations to Jesseybell!!! :D

gmb4503, fingers crossed for you - your chart looks really good!

Mwah to you, Soulmate!

Nothing going on here. AF leaving, and getting anxious about getting ready for my big trip.

[jodylovesscotty]

Subscribin'

I tested again on Sunday, and another BFN. I still haven't gotten AF and today is day 32. I have had one other cyle that went 32 days this year. I have been crampy for the last 3 days which is also unusual, but it is probably all in my head. If AF doesn't come by tomorrow I will run out and buy more HPT's. By the way the ones I took were clear blue and easy digitals (they were the cheapest ones). Should I try a different one next time????

[jjsanner]

I am so frustrated right now! Currently at CD 25 and I have no idea if I've O'd. My temps are completely crazy and not in line with all my other signs (CM, symptoms, etc.). I am upset because at least before (without the clomid) I knew what was going on with my body! I faxed my current chart to my doc for him to look at. Not sure if he'll have anything to say. What do ya'll think?

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/24f94

[Sare79]

I'd like to join in here to get a better perspective on charting. I've just begun charting this month.

CC Name: Sare79
Me: Sarah, 26
DH: Joel, 25
Married since: October 15, 2005
Off BCP since: May, 2005
TTC since: June 2005
Charting since: November 1, 2005
Known issues/test results: m/c in 2002
Chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/fe765

[ptcrn]

Yeah, a new thread! Hopefully I'll be able to keep up with this one! :o I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving.

I'm pretty sure I O'd on Wednesday, disagreeing with FF as usual. I'm hoping we caught the egg this time! Could you please move me to Testing 12/5-12/11?

Congrats to Jesseybell! Sticky vibes to you!

gmb4503, your chart looks great with today's temp jump! Hoping you'll see a BFP soon.

jjsanner, it looks to me like your body was gearing up to O on day 17 but something happened to delay it. Were you under a lot of stress during those days? Keep checking your CM and OPK's- it can still happen!

Sorry to everyone who AF found. Good luck to all the testers and those waiting to O!

[dionysia]

Hope you all had a good Turkey Day!!

I've had EWCM for the past 3 days and my temp is up today, possibly O'ing soon?! We've BDed for the past 2 nights and will continue to do so 'til the EWCM dries up! /TMI

Di

[JayJay]

Welcome, Sare! Glad you made it over!

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here!

Welcome Sare79!!!

[jeggink]

Sare79 Welcome!

Forgot to give my congrats to Jesseybell!!! H&H 9 months to you!

Getting some sharp cramping today, the same time it started last month. But I remember with my 1st pg that I also had bad cramps so who knows...it's just damn uncomfortable!

[Sabriel]

jeggink I hope the cramping is a sign of good things to come!

dionysia Yay for EWCM! Keep BDing!

ptcrn Hope you caught that eggie!

Sare79 Glad you joined us! :)

jjsanner It doesn't look like you've Oed yet, but Clomid temps can be wacky. :(

jodylovesscotty Sorry about the BFN. I hope the witch stays away! I think the digital tests are 50mlU, maybe they are not sensitive enough? Good luck!

Dotsie Sorry. :(

CD 18 today, and I think I got a + OPK this afternoon. I definitely have EWCM and had some spotting this morning. I am going to take another OPK this evening. (I have no idea why it is so fun to POAS.) We BDed last night, and hope to again tonight if DH is not too tired. :rolleyes:

[LDS Angel 19]

Weclome, Sare79! Hope you enjoy the crazy ride of TTC :)

[Applebee]

re-subscribing :D

[jodylovesscotty]

Well I tested again tonight and got another BFN and I used a different type of test (first response). I am guessing I am around 14dpo. This cycle is very strange for many reasons: I have been having cramps on and off, usually they come in full force and AF shows up that day. Also, my bb's are not sore in any manner and they always are at least a few days before AF shows up. I don't have a breakout which is always my true sign that AF is coming. As I said earlier today I only had once cycle in 11 months that was 32 days long (and I am on day 32 today). So if she doesn't show up in the next couple of days I will test again. I hate this! I really wish AF would show up (not really) or I would get a BFP.

[polkadot]

jodylovesscotty..that sucks...i had one cycle like that it drove me nuts....i think i took every single PG test there was to buy at Wal-mart.....good luck...hoping for a BFP for you tomorrow :D

[ABirney]

Hey ladies! Hope everyone is having a good night!
Welcome to Sare79!
Can someone please double-check out my charts and make sure there is no sign of O that I am missing? I'm going in to start Provera on Wednesday (If we aren't snowed in!!) and we were supposed to not BD for 2 weeks beforehand. Ooops. :o I figured as long as I wasn't showing any sign of O there would be no chance for pg and would be ok to take the meds. So I'm just checking to make sure! We are having a winter storm here so wanted to post a day early in case the power went out again! TIA!!
Good luck to those who are O'ing and testing soon!!!

[polkadot]

abirney- i wish i was more help....i know nothing at this point as fas as i am concerned....i feel like my body hates me jsut a little bit more each month....as for taking the meds....i would just call the dr. and ask, its not going to hurt anything to just ask.....

hope things get better soon.,...

[MichelleRenee]

Sometimes I like to overlay my charts with others just for fun to see the similarities. This one is kinda freaky with the parts that are almost identical! CD1-7 and the CD11-15.

http://www.fertilityfriend.com/journal/revrry1Ut.png

Just thought I'd share.:D

[jeant]

Please move me to "Waiting to O"

Yep, true red AF showed about an hour ago. Not a huge surprise considering I have been having brown spotting for 8 days straight starting on 2 DPO! I still have no idea what is going on. I have a doc (actually nurse) appt on Thursday to try to find out. 'Course, because I couldn't get in right away, she can't actually see the problem as it's happening. Damn HMO. :mad:

It's funny -- a few weeks ago I wanted to get a BFP. Now I just want to have a normal cycle. It's all about perspective. I think the thing that scares me the most is that things have gotten progressively worse in the year and half I have been charting. I used to spot consistently on 10 DPO; until this cycle it was occasionally 8 DPO; and now this 2 DPO weirdfest this cycle.

Sigh.

[JayJay]

That is kind of weird, MichelleRenee......have you ever noticed that before?

[MichelleRenee]

No, I haven't. I don't even know whose chart that is!!

[neenbean]

Welcome Sare79! I hope you time here is short and sweet. :)

Keep testing jodylovesscotty- good luck! I tried looking at your chart but nothing was there... Did I miss something?

ABirney , unfortunately, I am not much help interpreting charts yet, but I'm so glad you are going to get help with the Provera. It is amazing how whacked your temps are. Such a bummer. Best of luck to you!

MichelleRenee- that is too weird about the chart!

JeanT- good luck with finding out what is going on. No fun having your cycle get funky on you.




Last night I was having severe cramps, so I thought maybe implantation was occuring. I never get cramps right before AF. How long after O does implantation occur? I am 9 DPO. My LP is usually 10-12 days, so I tested this morning with FMU to see if maybe DH was right... Negativo. :( Oh well. I will test again later this week. I can't take the disappointment. I have no other FPS except I am so tired.

[jesseybell]

neenbean - I had cramps at 7 DPO - I was convinced that AF was coming really, really early...2 days later I got a BFP (last month my LP was 11 days, so I was terrified it was going to be like 8) Crossing my fingers for you!

[jeggink]

neenbean Crossing my fingers for you!

jodylovesscottySorry for the BFN, but you never know ;) .

ABirney I don't see any signs of O so I think you are probably safe :).

jeant Sorry about AF :(.

Sabriel I hope so to :).

My temp went up today a considerable amount. I took a dollar test and it was BFN. I am only 10 DPO though. I will see what my temp is in the morning and see if it was a blip or not. I thought about my temp and I think it is accurate. I did the same thing last night with Joseph that I normally do. The only different thing is that I fell asleep at about 7 - 7:30 or so, I was just sooo tired! So maybe that is why??? I guess I will see in the morning.

My FPS are cramps, bloating, crankyness, gas, tender BB's (which I never got the last 2 AF's), hot flashes, a little shakiness and slight aversions to food. Most of this I get right before AF anyway, so I can chalk most of that up to PMS, the word my husband loves to hear :rolleyes: .

Anyway, good luck to any to any other testers out there (including you Sherry!)

[gymwidow]

CD11 and we're plugging along with SMEP. DH is a happy boy. I have fewer OPKs at home than I thought, so instead of using them 2x a day, I'm only going to use them when I get home from work. Tonight will be my first of this cycle. I know it's early yet, but I took the Clomid relatively early this cycle (CD3-7 instead of 5-9), so hopefully it will "kick in" soon!


ABirney, your chart looks just like my last 2. Take the Provera. I don't think you have anything to worry about.

jeant, I know what you mean. I hope you get things sorted out soon!

neenbean, crossing my fingers for you!

[Sabriel]

gymwidow Good luck with the SMEP! I hope it works!

jeggink Sorry about the BFN. It is still early and your chart looks good! Crossing my fingers for you!

neenbean Sounds like it could be implantation to me! I hope you next test has two pretty lines!

jeant Sorry about AF showing. I hope the NP is able to give you some answers!

ABirney I don't see any signs of O!

I am CD 19 today and I definitely had a + OPK last night. I am going to take them in the evening from now on, because the line was much darker than it was in the afternoon. DH has been so tired from working so much lately it has been a fight to get him to BD! LOL, last night I told him to just suck it up and that he would be able to sleep faster if he just gave in. ;)

[ajlanden]

DH has been so tired from working so much lately it has been a fight to get him to BD! LOL, last night I told him to just suck it up and that he would be able to sleep faster if he just gave in.

LOL! Sounds like me!

jeggink-Your chart looks great! Test again in a few days!!

neenbean-Cramping is good! I hope it is implantation and you get a BFP in a few days!

4DPO--Ummm...can I test yet???? :p Waiting is the pits.

[jesseybell]

After last month of ill-timed BDing because either I was too tired or he was too tired, this month we did it pretty much right when we got home from work. Not really romantic BDing but productive! (and he was up and out of bed leaving me to "rest" - I know, TMI, but our schedules aren't in sync that much - he likes to stay up later than me - so we had to find a time that worked for both of us)

[ABirney]

Thanks everyone for looking at my charts! I'll go ahead and get the Provera tomorrow. Hopefully my next cycle will be more normal!
MichelleRenee that is weird how closely those charts line up!
jeant sorry about AF... I know what you mean though about wanting a normal cycle! This one was annov, and the 2 previous ones had wierd spotting/AF issues. Hopefully your new cycle will be better and good luck at your appt!
neenbean and jeggink sorry about the BFN's.. but both your charts still look great and hopefully will be BFP's in a few days!
gymwidow and sabriel catch those eggies!

[Sare79]

Can anyone give me any insight into why my temps would be so erratic? I am still a bit new to the charting thing.
Also, FF isn't showing any crosshairs, but I was pretty sure that I O'd on the 15 or 16th because I was feeling the cramps and had different CM.
I've been reading up on the previous threads and you ladies have so much information to share! Thanks for everything so far! :)

[Dotsie]

Threadmistress, please move me to waiting to O. Thanks.

[Aletheia]

gmb4503/gina... I must admit that I've been stalking your chart. Any word yet? It looks great!

Dotsie- Sucky suck pants about AF showing. :( Maybe you have a christmas baby in your future?

ABirney- No O do I spy.

gymwidow and sabriel- I join you in the BD fest (ok, not that way!) in just a couple more days! I'm nervous and excited and just wish time would hurry itself on up!

[gymwidow]

I'm feeling so frustrated right now. With my body, with waiting, with this whole darn process. Today is CD11 and I'm still bleeding. Mostly spotting, but still red and still there. I have no idea why - don't know if it's just my "normal" bleeding since we know that my body really likes to bleed, or if it's a side effect of taking the Provera or Clomid or what. I started very slightly spotting on CD47, then started taking the Provera that night. The next night, my new CD1 according to my doc, I started spotting/bleeding more. Full AF arrived probably about Monday or Tuesday last week. Last cycle when I took Provera I had a long AF - about 8 or 9 days including all spotting before and after, so I don't know if this is normal or what.

But of course, I hate it. And I'm worried that my body is not doing what it's supposed to, again, and that the Clomid I took last week won't work and I won't O. I know a lot of this is premature and chances are I'll O later this week, but the waiting every single day is really starting to get to me. It's been only 5 months since we decided to SWH, and 4 months since we truly started TTC, and 3 months now since we began all the testing and diagnosing. I feel like we're FINALLY doing something about TTC and still all these doubts are in my head about whether it will work or not.

I must relax! (yes, the dreaded R word) Stressing out about this stuff is not going to make it easier. I think I'm just going to focus on other stuff - work, holidays, etc., and try to ENJOY the fun part of babymaking. We still have a week's worth of BDing to do and I might as well enjoy it!

Thanks for "listening" ladies. :)

sabriel, thanks!

sare79, did you just come off BCP? If so, it might take a few weeks for your cycle to get normal again. My first cycle off BCP was 45 or so days.

Dotsie, I'm so sorry.

Aletheia, lol, have fun!

[jjsanner]

Gymwidow, this cycle is also my first on clomid and I had a super long AF, too. I know it's easier said than done, but try not to worry. You are taking steps to fix the problem, and you will have that BFP before you know it!

Here's to wishing for Christmas BFP's for all of us!

[Sare79]

gymwidow- I've been off since May, so I don't think it's that, but thanks for looking!

[JayJay]

Sare How long are your cycles normally? What are people saying about the dip on CD 21?

[gmb4503]

Aletheia another BFN for me today.

gymwidow Sorry you are so frustrated :( Sending you {{{HUGS}}}

I know I'm not out yet, but I am expecting AF to arrive in the next few days. Just not hopeful anymore :( My dr is on vacation until Dec 13 so I can't get my progesterone test results. I would really like to know if I am Oing on my own darn it!!!! But just in case I'm not I plan to take my last dose of 50mg Clomid next cycle and see what he says in January.

[amurphy]

neenbean: Just an old TTCer dropping by to say that I had AF cramps at 9DPO and some pink spotting. I got my (faint) BFP on 11DPO. Good luck!

Dropping off

~*~*~*~BABYDUST!~*~*~*~:D

[Sare79]

Mrs Jackson (Can I call you by a first name? I think I am older than you and yet I feel like I am talking to a teacher):
Normally about 30 days which would mean tomorrow would be AF, but I don't feel it coming on at all. I normally feel the cramps and get really grumpy and sleepy the day or tweo before.

[JayJay]

Sare---But I am a teacher! :D

But, you can call me Jessica. :)

It's really weird that you don't have any AF symptoms. I think your chart looks alot like some of the pregnancy charts I've looked at recently.

[JayJay]

Sare my guess from looking at your overall chart is that you O'ed much later in this cycle, on CD 21, which means that you'd be 8 DPO, too early for a BFP.

That's what I thought.....but didn't want to say it outloud because I'm still a newbie! :o

[polkadot]

Sare- I agree....i think you O'ed on Cycle Day 21....thats a pretty big dip....i would do what bellefior says and see if changing the setting gives you an O ....good luck....

as for me...i took my temp this morning jsut to make sure it was at a post O range for me and it is i was at 97.77.....so i am (not obsessing) officallly in another 2WW...let the non-obsession begin. Seriously girls???? How am i going to get through these two weeks....???:rolleyes:

[Soulmate]

Jumping in to help out Sare...your chart is very interesting. According to official charting rules you have not Oed yet. Your chart needs to be bi-phasic (two levels) and yours is not. The temp drop on CD21 is interesting but it only reflects a possible estrogen surge which FF loves to say is pre-ovulation. In actuality (FF sucks at chart interpretation) it can mean simply an estrogen surge and nothing else (no ovulation necessarily). Erractic temps reflect what your hormones are doing. Low temps = estrogen, high temps = progesterone (very simply put). The fact that you have no temp rise leading to bi-phasic temperatures and you are still getting EWCM as of yesterday...my vote is for no O yet. Regardless of what is actually going on, there is no way you ovulated on the 15th or 16th. I get O pains so I am a huge believer in them, but that was most likely not them or you geared up to O and actually didn't O (which is a good possiblity).

I see you are taking Metformin...is that cycle related?

[polkadot]

well.......i would believe anything Soulmate says...shes **the woman** when it comes to this stuff....shes pretty good at telling us whats going on....
good luck sare!!!

[Soulmate]

Thanks polkadot :D

Sare I have been wrong before but I'd rather err on the side of "no O" then say you did and go through all the stress of BFNs and no AF...plus missing a possible egg. Also, I completely see what these other ladies are saying and agree that CD21 could be a possiblity. I would BD when you get EWCM just in case. The first couple of cycles charting can be very frustrating...but keep the faith...you are learning more and more about your body with each cycle.

[JayJay]

The first couple of cycles charting can be very frustrating...but keep the faith...you are learning more and more about your body with each cycle.

Oh, these words are very true. Everyday that I check out the CC, I learn something new about my body and my cycle. It's very interesting.....good words of wisedom, Soulmate!

[Sare79]

Thank you so much. When I went in and changed to Fertility Awareness, it predicted it at CD25. WTF?
My met-formin is to control my blood sugar, which ironically is also very erratic itself- sometimes super-low, sometimes super-high.

[JayJay]

Sare, had you still been BD'ing around that time?

[Sare79]

I'm very confused by all this. But i am learning something new everyday!
As far as my doctors and I knew, I was very prone to releasing multiple eggs each month. So I guess I always thought (had the misconception) that I would be able to conceive rather quickly. And I know the last few months hasn't been long, but I guess I thought that if I started charting, I would recognize O-time and get pregnant. I've been wrong before, and will probably be wrong again. :)

[Sare79]

Sare, had you still been BD'ing around that time?

A few times, but not much because honestly, my bbs were sore and I was tired. So I just wasn't into it. Really I should abide by my own FMEL plan. :D

[JayJay]

Really I should abide by my own FMEL plan. :D

You got that right! I still think the plan would be flawless! :p

[Soulmate]

Sare I am assuming that you have Type II Diabetes or borderline at least? If so then that would totally effect your cycles and give you erratic temps and mess with your cycles. Your endocrine system not only regulates your insulin but your reproductive hormones as well. Below is a bit of education so you can learn how to make your own crosshairs and not rely on FF.

To get a coverline you take your last 6 temps before the temp spike (supposed to be about .3 to .4 degree jump but not everyone does that) and draw a horozontal line .1 degree above the highest temp. FF's suggestion is interesting and I'll use that. FF puts the coverline at 97.3 but technically (according to FAM rules) it would be 97.6. I am using CD25 as a possible O date. Now to say you Oed you need 3 consistent temps around .1 degree above that 97.6 coverline (so 97.7 and higher). If you look at your chart you have 2 temps. If your temp is above 97.7 tomorrow you may have yourself an O. Now technically, your CM is supposed to dry up (no more EW) after you ovulate. Sometimes people get EW right before AF comes which is the corpus luteum ("pregnancy cyst" or the goop filled follicle that once held the egg you ovulated. This goop is what produces progesterone. The bigger the egg the more goop and the higher the progesterone = high temps) breaking down which means you are not pregnant (since you need the goop to keep the pregnancy). Anyway, the EW on CD28 is after what FF says is O. Now, depending on what happened with Sunday's temp and why it is an open circle (maybe taken at a different time?) It is also possible you ovulated yesterday.

I would give it till the end of the week and keep taking your temp. If you ovulated on CD21 then a HPT would be decently accurate on Sunday. If you ovulated recently then your temps will stay high. The ole charting saying is "wait and see". You just really can't tell a whole lot about what is really going on right now and I know that sucks for you. Good luck and...

*~*~*~*~*~*~BABY DUST*~*~*~*~*~*~*~

[JayJay]

Okay, so will FF draw the coverline on the chart, or will I manually do that?

[Soulmate]

Okay, so will FF draw the coverline on the chart, or will I manually do that? I usually do an override. If you look on my Pg chart in my sig. the crosshairs are blue instead of red. That means they are overridden. If you go to your chart and scroll down to "Ovulation Detector" there is an option "Tuning/Override". But you have to enter an O date as well. It won't do just a coverline unfortunately. In the meantime you can visually keep track by just looking .1 degree above the highest of your 6 most recent temps. MrsJackson, your CL would be 98.0 right now.

[JayJay]

Soulmate do you think that it's a good idea for me to be messing with the ovulation and coverline?? Being as I'm just a newbie, I don't to make anything else more confusing than it already is.

Maybe it would be best if I just rode this cycle out, and kind of observed. Maybe by the end of a full month of charting, I will be able to see things a little more clearly.

Is it normal for my temps to be as high as they are? After looking in the chart gallery, do my temperatures seem high?


(Maybe it's because of all the extra insullation! :p )

[MichelleRenee]

My nephew was born at 9:52 tonight!!!

Ian Eric
6 lbs 4 oz
19 inches

He is adorable and I am so excited! I watched the whole birth and it was amazing! (and fast!!)

My sis went to the hospital around 8:30. I got the call around 8:45 while I was at work. I rushed out of there and walked into the room at 9:30. She was about to start pushing. They didn't even have time to give her an epidural! She was very scared about doing it natural but she pushed like a champ and he was born within 20 minutes!

I am so, so excited! I thought that watching this would make me want to stop TTC but it made me want to be PG even more!!!

[Dotsie]

Welcome Ian Eric!! Congrats Michelle. That is soo awesome. It's the mos beautiful thing in the world to see a child born. Here's hoping your sister is with you 9 months from now doing the same with you :)
AF is here with a total vengeance. This is one of my worst in a while. Tylenol is my best friend right now. CD2. 9 more days until the fun part of the cycle. I think the time before the 2ww is the worst. GL everyone.

[gymwidow]

Thanks for the good wishes, ladies. I just wish I knew what my body was doing! I've been having major cramping since yesterday afternoon, which, according to a good friend of mine who's had much experience with Clomid, is probably a sign that my ovaries are working hard to get those little eggies ready to pop out. Just to reassure my troubled brain, I'm going to call my doc this morning to ask about the extended bleeding, but other than that, I'm going to keep thinking positive thoughts! I did my first OPK yesterday and got 2 pink lines, but not a positive. I'll keep on doing that daily. Oh, and I bought some Robitussin this morning and will start on that. My CM, when I've seen it, has been hard to judge in my last few cycles due to my sporadic spotting. I'm not taking any chances with it, so I'm starting the Robitussin this morning. That's all. Today is CD12 and the SMEP BDfest continues tonight!

jjsanner, thanks.

sare79, frustrating. Have you considered calling your doc to see if you can have a blood test to see if you really did O at all this month?

gmb4503, thanks. I hope you get answers of your own soon, too!

polkadot, good luck with the not obsessing! I'll hopefully come not obsess with you soon! ;)

Michelle, CONGRATS! That's so awesome that you were there for it. Yay for your sis doing it naturally! Not that I'd ever want to do that, but if it means a quickie labor and delivery, then woohoo for her! I hope you're the next one in your family to have that experience, and soon! :D

[cowgirl]

FF put my o date on cd19 (friday) Happy to say we did bd that day, but that was it since we had a house full of company and DH was being weird.

Threadmistress can you move me to think I o'd testing 12/5 - 12/11. I am dpo5 today.

I will try to get back with replies.

[ajlanden]

Michelle-Welcome to Mr. Ian!! Isn't watching a birth AMAZING! My bf let me watch her give birth to her DD and it was seriously one of the most awe inspiring moments of my life. Wow!

gymwindow-I am glad you are calling you doc...in the meantime hope you are staying BUSY! ;)

cowgirl-We are twins!! I am 5dpo too!!! HOpefullly this will be our lucky month!

[MichelleRenee]

Thank you all. It was amazing. I was hesitant to stay because I was so scared I would lose my nerve and not want to be PG anymore. It actually has made me want to get PG even more. It was incredible to watch. The only hard part was hearing my little sis scream and seeing how scared she looked knowing she wouldn't be getting an epidural. For her first baby they accidentally gave her a spinal instead of an epidural so she didn't feel a thing. She couldn't even push. So now she's experienced both sides to having a baby.... pain-free and painful.

Anyways, I've had a range of emotions since last night, the strongest being motivation. She totally made me feel like I can do it too and little Ian is so precious. I want one of my own so bad. He is such a little miracle.

So as for myself.... my temps are still down. My chart seems less rocky than last month, which is comforting. It is CD17. I O'ed around CD23-25 last cycle so I am anticipating a more clear thermal shift this month. Time to start eating baby carrots again!

[dionysia]

Weird question:
How long does it take for FF to predict your O date? I am on CD 13 and FF hasn't detected ovulation. You can take a look for yourself; I think that I Oed on Sunday. (I had O pains Monday evening and a little last night.)
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/fdec3

Di

[Sare79]

I'm actually not diabetic, or borderline. I just have really irregular blood sugar. I've had this since I was thinner and younger.

Thank you so much everyone (particularly Soulmate) for all the advice and information. I decided to put it back to the advanced just to see what happens and on the next cycle maybe I'll be able to tell more.

[jodylovesscotty]

Still don't know what is going on with me. AF still hasn't shown up and it now day 34 which is 2 days past my longest cycle. I used up all my HPTs the last few days getting BFN's. I think i might stop at the store on my way home from work and buy some again. Hopefully I will get an answer one way or another soon.

[jesseybell]

A friend of mine's wife is due in April but they didn't know for a while because her HPTs kept coming out negative, until she went and got a blood test so weird things do happen!

[dionysia]

Threadmistress: can you change me to "I think I Oed on 11/27."

Thanks
Di

[cowgirl]

sare79 Welcome
ajlanden we are testing twins. It would be nice if it was are lucky month.
Di From my experience it sometimes takes FF a bit to say you o'd
Michelle Congrats on the new nephew.
Jody There could be reasons why your cycle is longer then normal. I would wait a couple of days since you may have o'd later then you think.

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here!

[CTs_Punkin]

Jody - it's hard to really tell, since there aren't any temps in your chart. Have you temped, just to see if you are at a "post O" range? That would at least tell if you O'd.

As for me, I think AF has arrived... I thought she came earlier this week, but it ended up just being spotting... now today, I am thinking it's the real deal... how lame... my body can't even get AF right... sigh....

[jodylovesscotty]

CTs Pumpkin~ This month we decided not to chart since we were getting so obsessive about it. DH said to "leave it to him" so I did. However yesterday morning I decided to temp to find out if I were still in the post O range and I was. It was 98.30. I didn't temp today. I guess I will temp again tomorrow morning just to see where it is.

[polkadot]

Damn Sabriel- you're fast...;) thanks

well ladies i am trying not to obsess too much but Brian is gonna make me nuts....he keeps asking **do you know yet? do you know yet?** Uhmmm believe me if i knew i would be screaming from the rooftops right now...so this weekend we have plans and we will be very busy so that should keep me occupied my questionis though...since i dont know the exact date i o'ed when should i start testing....i think i O'ed on CD 19 which would make me 5DPO today....what do ya'll think?....and please dont say until 18 days of high temps b/c we all know...that just aint gonna happen ;)

[ABirney]

Hi everyone!
MichelleRenee Congrats on your new nephew!!! Isn't it amazing to watch a new baby being born? I got to watch my niece be born last May... same thing I thought it would make me not want to give birth but instead it was such an amazing experience! She also went too fast for an epidural and had a quick delivery.
Dotsie sorry to hear AF sucks so bad!!
gymwidow hopefully the Dr will have some answers for your bleeding and cramping and get something figured out soon!
Cowgirl and Dionysia hope you guys caught your eggies!
CTsPunkin I had that happen last cycle.. thought AF was there, but then showed up more definitely a few days later. So confusing!
jodylovesscotty maybe you O'd a bit later than normal? I'd go in for a blood test if AF doesn't show up in a few days and POAS stay neg.
Well I went in today for a test (BFN.. no surprise) and got my Provera, so I'll be starting that tonight. Hopefully my next cycle will be more normal!!
Have a great night all!

[ajlanden]

Polkadot-There are now 3 of us that are 5DPO!! Yee Haw!! I am going to wait to test until at least next Wednesday. I hope to hold out longer, but that probably won't happen!!!

Abirney-Good luck with a fresh new cycle!

[JayJay]

Sare79 Did you ever decide when it was that you ovulated, or if you did? If so, how many DPO are you?

[Sabriel]

ABirney Yay for starting Provera and a new cycle!

polkadot I would wait until you think you are 12 DPO at least. You may want to wait longer, though since you're not sure when you Oed. Good luck!

CTs_Punkin Sorry about AF. :(

I am pretty sure that I Oed yesterday. I will have to wait and see what my temp is tomorrow. So, I guess I am now in the dreaded 2ww.

[polkadot]

ajlanden- who else is 5 DPO? Yeah someone else i can freak out and obsess with besides the voices in my head....;)

Sabriel-oh yes i know i should wait at least 12 DPO...but we both know that isnt going to happen......;) and :D for Oing yesterday!!!



Abirney- cheers to a new cycle and starting Provera

[Mystikal]

To welcome Dionysia!!! I hope you stay is short and sweet and that you get your BFP soon!! :D

[Quartercentury]

ABirney, I remember you from TTA! Good luck with a new cycle. I hope the Provera does the trick.

polkadot, I know it's hard, but I would wait until at least 10DPO. And there are a lot of people who won't see a BFP for several days after that even though they are pregnant.

I saw the beginnings of my EW phase today, which would normally be a good thing, but I am keeping fingers crossed for a delayed O, or at least an average CD18 O, as FH and I aren't reunited for eight more days...

[dionysia]

To welcome Dionysia!!! I hope you stay is short and sweet and that you get your BFP soon!! :DThanks, R!!!!

I am so happy for you, mama-to-be!

Di

[jeggink]

WOW, lots of women at 5 DPO! Woohoo

Abirney Glad you are starting the provera!

Dotsie Sorry about the sucky AF. Last month was like that and I am hoping that if AF comes this month, it's not that bad!

Well, no AF yet and temps still up there. I am 12 DPO and my longest lp was 13 DPO, so 2 more days. If no AF or temp drop in the morning I may take another test as I am going to the IL's for the weekend and there is no way I am testing there! We shall see. Pre-AF symptoms aren't as bad as they were last month thank god!

[dionysia]

I'm 4DPO, if my guess of Oing on Sunday is correct.

Waiting, waiting... ;)

Di

[Sare79]

Sare79 Did you ever decide when it was that you ovulated, or if you did? If so, how many DPO are you?

I'm just giving up on this cycle and waiting for the next one, I think. My chart is totally strange this one. Hopefully it will balance out soon.

[jjsanner]

Polkadot...I would say you o'd on CD 20 (your last day of EWCM) or 21 (the day after) based upon your last three charts. I don't want you testing too soon, getting BFN's and getting all discouraged ;) .

As for me, I think I finally o'd yesteday. My temp still wasn't that high this morning, but definately in my usual early post-o range. I'll let you know tomorrow for sure. If I did o our timing was decent and **hopefully** I will have a nice Christmas surprise:) .

[Sabriel]

jjsanner Yay for good timing!

jeggink I hope this is it for you! Stay away AF!

Quartercentury I really hope your O holds off until you and DH are together again!

Nothing new to report. I am 2 DPO today. I am so relieved that I don't have to worry about BDing anymore!

[cowgirl]

Sorry to all that got AF. Hoping all those who o'd caught their eggs.

I am planning on waiting as long as possible to test as do not want to see another BFN.

[jodylovesscotty]

Well AF found me today:mad:

Threadmistress~ Can you kindly move me to waiting to O.

This cycle I am going back to charting. Obviously DH's method didn't work.

[jesseybell]

I am so sorry jodylovesscotty :(

[armadillo]

I think I'd like to join this thread! Last month was my first month charting and it was confusing!

Me: 27
DH: 30
Married since: 10/2004
Off BCP since: 7/2005
TTC since: 8/2005
Charting since: 11/2005
Known issues/test results: none
Chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f25aa
Current status: Just started AF today, so waiting to O

[gmb4503]

Threadmistress, please move me to Waiting to O

AF showed up in full force this afternoon. I'll be starting 50mg of Clomid again this cycle and crossing my fingers!!!

jodylovesscotty Sorry AF found you too!!!

[ptcrn]

polkadot, you can join me in testing at 10 DPO. :D I bought 3 dollar tree tests today and they are already burning a hole in my pocket! I just can't wait this cycle for some reason and I'm only 7 DPO. Good luck at waiting!

gmb4503 and jodylovesscotty sorry AF found you both. :(

Welcome armadillo! This thread is full of great supportive people. Hope your stay is short and sweet!

[Charting is Knowledge]

updated to here!!

welcome Armadillo, may your stay be short & sweet!!

[ABirney]

Hi all!
Quartercentury Hi! I remember you too! Hope that egg stays put until DH gets home!
jeggink Your chart looks great! Hoping for a BFP soon!
polkadot and ptcrn Good luck when you guys test too!
jodylovesscotty and gmb4503 Sorry the witch showed up.
Welcome armadillo!
jjsanner and sabriel Hopefully you guys caught some eggs!

Well I started the Provera last night... this morning my temp went up a fair amt... that's normal right? (because progesterone after O is what causes the rise in a normal cycle, right??) My books are still packed up from the move so just double-checking with you guys.... TIA!

[mkvh]

I spy a mystery BFP...CONGRATS!!!

Oh, and some

~*~*~*~BABY DUST~*~*~*~

for the rest of you!

[Sabriel]

I spy it too! Congrats!

Grabbing up some baby dust!

gmb4503 Sorry about AF. :(

Welcome armadillo!!!

[shouldaeloped]

I saw it too!

Congratulations!!!!

[jeggink]

OK, finally can get in here, it's been hectic in the office today.

I guess I am the mystery BFP :D :eek: .

I took a dollar store test last night and got a VERY light line after ~7 min. It was so light that DH could barely see it with the cover off.

I drove to Walmart and got a few Answer early tests and tested again this morning. The line came up immediately, not extremely dark, but very obvious. I don't think I will buy those dollar store tests anymore since I think I would have tested + a few days ago with the answer!

We are quite happy, though a little shocked as it took us 6 months to conceive DS.

Spreading around some **~~Fresh Baby Dust~~**!!

Thanks for all the well wishes so far!

[polkadot]

Congrats....so you are the offical #1 BFP in the new thread!!! Bring on more BFP's!!!!

[Sabriel]

Congrats Jeggink!!!

(Grabbing up some more baby dust!)

[JayJay]

Congratulations, jeggink!

[Quartercentury]

Congratulations, Jeggink!!!

ABirney, yep, the provera will raise your temperature level a bit. Totally normal. And when you've finished your course, don't be surprised if it takes a few days for the temps to come back down and for AF to arrive. Sometimes it just takes a bit for your body to get the message.

[armadillo]

Congrats, Jeggink!!!! And thanks, everybody, for the welcome.

[cowgirl]

jodylovesscotty and gmb4503 Sorry AF showed up.
armadillo Welcome hope your stay is short.
jeggink Congrats thanks for the dust

Sorry to anyone I missed.

I am at 7 dpo with no temp drop. I did have some cramping last night adn a litttle bit today. ( Not AF like )

[ausi2b]

Hi all! I should have joined here a while ago, but I thought that I would become to obsessed with all things TTC (ha!) Anyway, if its ok, I'd love to join and get some opinions on my chart!

Me: ausi2b, 27
DH: 28
Off BCP since: Oct/Nov 2005
TTC since: Oct/Nov 2005
Charting since: Oct/Nov 2005
Known issues: None
Chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/f7062
Status: Testing

I tested today at 11 DPO and definite BFN. But as I stared at my chart this morning - do you think that maybe I O'd on CD22? FF is calling my chart triphasic. Maybe I implanted late (CD22?) and its just too early? Those BFNs are SO not fun to look at. (BTW, I used two tests - FRER and CBE digital using FMU). Looking forward to hanging out with you all!

[CTs_Punkin]

Congrats Jeggink!!
Rolling in some baby dust....

I need all I can get... what is up with my body... can it not just let AF come??? I mean, I've had three-four days of a little AF, then nada... (so I'm counting it as spotting since it's not continuous(sorry if tmi)). So today, I'm hopeful that this is "REALLY" it so that I can count it as CD1 and move the heck on....

Sorry to those who got AF!
Good luck to the upcoming testers!
MMT

[Charting is Knowledge]

Updated to here!

Congrats jeggink and welcome ausi2b!!!

[ptcrn]

Congratulations jeggink!!! Rolling in all the baby dust!

Welcome ausi2b. Your chart looks great! I think I agree with FF's interpretation. It may just be too early to test. Try testing again in a couple of days. How long is your normal LP?

Hoping for AF for you, CTs_punkin. How weird is that to say?! I hope this cycle brings good things for you!

[ausi2b]

Thanks for the warm welcome! ptcrn - This is my first month off of BCP - so I have no idea how long my LP is. Of course, on BCP, it was 27 days. But I was on BCP for so long (10 years) that I can't remember what it was before that! :)

Any other advice is WELCOME!

[jesseybell]

ausi2b - I was 28 days to the day from the first day I got my period and when I went off BCP a couple of times. But this time I was like 34 days and Oed on Day 23, so who knows. It did take my body 2-3 months to actually O after I went off (and I had been on pretty much straight for 16 years)...But your chart does look great!

[Aletheia]

Holy smokes, ausi2b! That is a triphasic chart if I've ever seen one. :)

I have to first say that I admire your will power-- not joining us lest you become TTC obssessed and all-- I could have never done it. :)

I wish I could tell you what you want to hear, but I can't! Since you don't know much about your cycle off BCP, and since I feel like I've seen more chemical pregnancies in women coming right off BCP (though this is only my experience, and I haven't read anything in support of that) I would urge you to wait as long as you can before testing again. 11 dpo is still really early- I'd wait until 15 dpo if you can, and if you get a BFN then wait again until 18dpo. If at 18 dpo your temp is still up and AF is a no show, and you get another BFN, it's time to call your doctor.

So it looks like since you've put off your obssessing, you can unleash it full force for the next week! Good luck!

[ausi2b]

Hi Alethia. Hee! I may have said that I have not joined this thread, but believe me, I have been lurking here for longer than I care to admit (3.5+ years?!?) I have also lurked on the TTC in a few months thread that you started, as well as countless others.

Thanks for your response. I ran out of tests this morning, so I figure that I will buy some more tonight or tomorrow. The earliest I will test will be Sunday. Lets just hope the temp stays way up! :)

[jeant]

ausi2b I agree -- it's probably just too early. Your chart looks fantastic and only time will tell.

[polkadot]

ausi2b- just my 2 cents but...i was on BCP for 8 years and my first cycle off of them was 35 days and i O'ed VERY late like day 25.....but after that they became pretty regular with the exception of one....dont look at my chart from this month since i didnt temp, but check out my last few and you can see they became pretty regular and predictable....welcome to the group and i hope your stay is very short and sweet....

good luck :D

[jeant]

I had my appointment with the nurse practitioner yesterday, to try to find out why I had such a strange cycle last month (spotting for 9 days starting at 2 DPO, something that is so rare I couldn't find any information on it anywhere). This nurse has done OB/GYN for 30 years. Guess what her advice was?

"Just relax."

I couldn't believe my ears. She told me that it was probably just stress and she recommends therapy for most infertile women. Sure, I had some stress last cycle (from buying the new house), but it was a temporary thing. I also pointed out that it wasn't just this cycle -- I have been spotting earlier and earlier for the past year, and if anything things are less stressful in my life now. She said to stop charting and just to have sex every other day in the middle of my cycle. She ended with, "It will happen when it happens." When I asked if it was less likely to "happen" in cycles with spotting, she said, "I've seen everything," and listed all the unusual circumstances she'd seen people get pg in (43 and with 3 adopted kids etc.)

So unhelpful. Hearing about other people's unusual situations does not answer my question. And charting does not stress me out -- the days of spotting do, and they would be there whether I charted or not. And I do not need therapy for God's sake -- give me a break.

[Aletheia]

http://forums.obgyn.net/pregnancy-birth/P-B.0304/1016.html
http://www.diagnose-me.com/cond/C494173.html

jeant- You are rightfully angry. Her advice was not only hurtful, but unhelpful and unprofessional. I know you've done more reading on luteal phase spotting than I have (here are two sites I found, above), but in every case it seems like we're told to consult with a medical professional if we have unexplained spotting during the month, pregnant or not. Bot of the above sites seem to recommend hormonal balance testing and that's what I would want if I were you.

I'm sorry you had that interaction. I once was in the middle of getting a pap smear when I got a lecture by a (female) doctor about a) how I shouldn't be sexually active since I wasn't at the time married and b) how what I had written on my new patient forms about acupuncture helping with my earlier depression was "all in my mind." WHILE SHE HAD A COLD METAL INSTRUMENT IN MY HOO HAA, MIND YOU. So I know what a**poopies medical professionals can be. Haha-- I'm married to one. (DH is a med student. :D Who hasn't done his OB rotation yet, not that that would be helpful what with how "women's problems" get taught in a lot of schools, I think...)

Get yourself a second opinion. Hell-- you can't even take her advice of "just relax" until you feel at peace with what your body is trying to tell you; you deserve a medical practitioner who understands that.

Keep us posted and be sure to remember you can vent here any time. What a harpy you saw. Blows my mind. :mad:

[MichelleRenee]

Thanks to everyone. Lisa and Ian are doing great! Ian went home yesterday and is a sweet little guy.

I am getting to the exciting part of the cycle! Today is CD19 and I am thinking I could ovulate any day now. I just noticed today that our BDing is pretty good so far. Hopefully I will O soon and I can start my 2ww!

[gymwidow]

Hi ladies. Sorry I went MIA for a couple of days. I had one of those freak-out moments on Wednesday and went a little mental for a while. I'm better now.

In short, after I posted about the bleeding getting worse, I went to the bathroom and discovered that I was passing some pretty large blood clots. That's not usual for me and, combined with the most severe cramps of my life (also not usual for me), I got a little scared. AF had been on her way out and I was barely spotting over the weekend and into Monday/Tuesday, but all of a sudden I was gushing blood again (sorry TMI!). Anyway, thank goodness for my friend the doctor. I called him at home and he told me to take an HPT, just in case, and to call him later. Thank God the HPT was negative (never thought I'd say that!), but he said I could go ahead and come in yesterday to see someone in his office, just for my peace of mind.

I met with the nurse practitioner, who took my whole history again and then said she thinks I might need to be on Metformin along with the Clomid. She said that the Provera might've triggered a much heavier AF this time, which is why I had so much bleeding for so long (today is CD14 already!). She said there's not much more they can do for me there other than just trying various meds, and that I should just see an RE already. She said since we know what my issues are, there's no sense in "trying a little of this, a little of that" and that I should see the RE and just get pregnant already! LOL. I said that sounded great to me! Finally, someone who agreed that, even though we haven't technically been trying very long, we shouldn't wait any longer to do whatever needs to be done. That was what was frustrating me so much. I don't think the length of our TTC period has anything to do with anything, not since we know I have PCOS and bleeding issues!

So, I have an appt with the RE on Tuesday. In the meantime, thank goodness, the bleeding seems to maybe be stopping. I've gone from full AF this morning to barely spotting as of an hour ago! I'm still OPKing and BDing and hoping to see some evidence of O in the next few days. And if it didn't work this cycle, then hopefully the RE can help me get ready for the next!

Jody and gmb, I'm so sorry AF found you. :(

jeggink, woohoo, congrats!!! H&H! :D

ausi2b, welcome! :)

jeant, OMG, I would have thrown something at her. The referrals coordinator at my doc's office yesterday told me to relax, but she meant as in keep doing what I'm doing with charting and meds, etc., but to try not to obsess over every symptom or pain, etc. and make myself crazy (which is what I had one on Wednesday!) That to makes sense and is what I've been trying to do. Not always successfully, obviously. :rolleyes:

[jeant]

gymwidow Wow, scary! So glad you're OK now. And cool that you can see an RE (otherwise known as docs who actually look at charts, from what I hear!)

And Aletheia and gymwidow Thanks so much for your support! It means a lot. Aletheia, thanks for posting those sites -- they were interesting. I already had my FSH tested and it was fine, so fortunately I'm not in early menopause or anything. But I think I will make an appt with a doc (earliest I can get in is 3 months from now, but whatever) to ask my questions and see if I can get my progesterone levels tested. They might actually be fine, since my temp stays high even when I spot. But it would be good to know. I am also hoping that next cycle will go back to normal -- nothing like spotting at 2 DPO to make you appreciate and not mind spotting at 9 DPO.

That doc you saw sounds even worse! Wow. :eek: Nothing like insulting a woman when her hoo-ha is staring you in the face. I mean, really.

I think what bugs me the most about docs is how they assume you are dumb and know nothing, and then when it turns out you know a lot they seem threatened. I am also continually surprised by all of the things docs don't know. e.g.: my GP thought salmon was a high-mercury fish. No -- it's one of the few low-mercury fish. And this latest nasty nurse laid on the "sperm can live for 5 days" line, when actually every medical study shows that the vast majority of pg's happen the day before or the day of O. That's why people are given the "every other day" advice, so you can hit one of those two days.

[neenbean]

CONGRATS Jeggin!!!! Such wonderful news and a great way to start the holiday season!


So sorry to hear about all the AFs making appearances.


Does anyone have a minute to look at my chart? I am 12 DPO and still having high temps. My typical cycle is 29-30 days- Today is CD 30 but AF is not here and ept is showing a BFN. Any thoughts as to why my temps are still above the coverline despite a BFN???

Thanks in advance!

ETA: this is the link to my chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/66982).

[ABirney]

Hey ladies!
Congrats jeggink!!!! H&H 9 months!
quartercentury thanks for the info!
cowgirl hopefully that cramping is a good sign!
ausi2b welcome! I agree with FF but I'm no expert.. but I think your chart looks great! Retest in a couple days and I'll bet its a BFP!
CTsPunkin How frustrating!
jeant what a sucky NP appt! Maybe you should try to find a new one who actually has a clue?
gymwidow how scary!! Glad things are better though and good luck with the RE!
neenbean Maybe retest in a couple days if your temps are still up.

[ausi2b]

12 DPO today and temp went down a bit (98.84) but still way above coverline. And woke up this morning to ... EWCM?? So strange ...

To those of you that have those horrible docs - find new ones! I just got myself a new OB and he is so wonderful (he even encouraged charting!!).

One thing I am not enjoying about charting -- I can't fall asleep afterwards! So here it is on a Saturday morning that I can sleep in, and I'm playing on the computer at 5:45 am! And the flip side - I can't stay up past 9:30 pm! :)

Happy Weekend!

[polkadot]

hey girls.....well i broke down and bought 3 HPT's....i know so bad.....but we were in the dollar tree...there is no way i could pass them up......:rolleyes: :rolleyes: i really hope i can wait till at least 10 DPO but we'll see....i think i am around 7 or 8 DPO...so i am going to try and wait till atleast through the weekend and maybe test monday or tuesday.....i really hope this is it....it would be so awesome to be able to tell my fam at christmas.....


later girlies:D

[Sare79]

I decided to test again today because I am so confused by my chart and my body. Got another BFN. It's a bit strange for me to go longer than 30 days w/o AF, and I'm just not feeling "right." A little off, so I thought it may be something. I'll just keep on though. At this point, I'd be glad to get AF so that I can start to see patterns in my cycle.

[jeant]

Some of you may know that women who are TTC, going to be TTC, or pg should avoid eating certain types of fish (e.g., shark, swordfish) because of their high levels of mercury contamination. My doc wouldn't test me for mercury (yes, my health care plan sux), but I just found out that you can get tested for mercury levels for $25 through a research program sponsored by the Sierra Club:

http://www.sierraclub.org/mercury/get_tested/

They send you a test kit, you send them a small hair sample, and they send back the results.

The whole fish thing is so confusing. Fish is *really* good for you and for actual or potential babies -- omega-3 fatty acids are important for brain development, and fish are the best source. Yet big fish have a lot of mercury, and medium fish are in this gray area where I don't know what to do (tuna, halibut, mahi-mahi). I've tried to limit those to once a week, but it's hard. Salmon are very low in mercury, as are small seafood like shrimp and clams.

It will be interesting to see what my level is, since I eat fish all the time.

[Sabriel]

jeant Interesting about the mercury testing. I know omega-3s are really good for you, but I cannot stand seafood. My dogs take flax seed oil, so I should probably do that too! Sorry about the nurse you saw. How awful of her to say that. How can you relax when you are bleeding everyday for over a week?!

Sare79 I hope you are able to figure out your cycle soon! It looks to me that FF is probably right about your O date. If it is, then it is too early to test.

polkadot I hope this is it for you! Crossing my fingers!

ausi2b That's awful that you can't fall back asleep! I can hardly stay awake while I am temping. Maybe it will get easier with time. (Hopefully you won't have to worry about it for long!

neenbean How long is your LP normally? Mine can vary just a little bit.

gymwidow Glad to hear that the bleeing has slowed down. I hope the RE is able to give you some answers and get you pg!

MichelleRenee Hope you catch that eggie!

I am 4DPO today and just waiting...

[ausi2b]

13 DPO. Temp went down a bit again. Still way above coverline, but I think I'm out. Another BFN too. Sigh ...

[gymwidow]

So it seems that I definitely was freaking myself out for nothing. By Friday night the bleeding had basically stopped altogether. My temps dropped back down to their normal pre-O range (I guess that means the Clomid is out of my system now?) and yesterday I had what looked like a positive OPK. Yay! I'll test again today and BD again tonight and am hopeful that I'll see a temp jump soon.

jeant, I agree. It bugs me that my doc seemed SO CERTAIN of things, like she told me that everyone's LP is always 14 days, so you can just count 14 days back from the 1st day of AF and that's the day you ovulated. Hmph. Anyway, I'm glad you're going to make the appointment and I hope you can get in soon. In the meantime, just keep on doing what you're doing and hopefully something good will happen!

neenbean, have you retested? I can't tell much from your chart (I'm not that great at interpreting them).

ABirney, thanks!

ausi2b, I'm sorry to hear that. I hope that it's not really AF yet, though. I'll still keep my fingers crossed for you!

polkadpt, I bought more HPTs yesterday, too. Walmart had the CBE digital on sale, 2 for $10. I couldn't resist! Good luck testing!

Sare79, I understand your frustration! Sometimes it's just a relief when AF shows up. I hope she doesn't for you, though!

Sabriel, thanks. Good luck getting sanely through the next week. Waiting really sucks!

[UTChick]

Hi ladies! Sorry I haven't been around much. I am just not in the mood to chart this cycle. I don't know if it is because I am going through all this testing or what, but I am just blah about temping, etc. My HSG was normal (don't know if I told you all that or not) and my CD3 bloodwork was normal as well. I go in on Tuesday for CD21 bloodwork. DH still hasn't gone in for his SA. He promised me he will call tomorrow and set up an appt. My doctor said that if the CD 21 bloodwork comes back ok, he would like to start me on Clomid next cycle. So...we'll see.

Congrats to all the BFPs! And good luck to those of you about to test!

[JayJay]

Well, FF has officially put me at 3DPO. I'm not quite sure that I agree with it. My only reasoning is that I haven't had any EWCM yet this cycle. I always remember having it before.

Has anybody else not agreed with their FF Chart before? Or is it just my confused, cautious mind that makes me think this way?! :rolleyes:

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ETA: Okay, so I went back and entered my CM info for the day, (because I forgot to do that before....) and FF changed my chart to saying I hadn't O'ed yet. But looking at my temps, it kinda looks like I did.....( I need to make up my mind, I know. :o ) Anyone have any useful insights??

Maybe the reason my temp was so high this morning is because I was up 2-3 times last night. Does that affect temps? Should I discard it?

[Dotsie]

fly by post...

MrsJ - If you did not have 3 consecutive hours of sleep if will most definitely affect your temp i.e. make it higher. I would discard that temp and make a note of what happened.
UTchick - Sorry you're feeling so blah. This TTC thing gets to us all at one point or another. Here's hoping this is your cycle :)
gymwidow - Yay for + opk's. I can't wait to start testing for that in a few days.
ausi2b - sorry for the temp dive. Don't give up just yet, it's not over til AF shows.

Good luck to everyone. Sorry if I missed anyone.