Holiday 2005 Still At It

[SAI Ladies]

This thread is for people who have been TTC for an extended period of time (6 months or more) and/or for those with known/diagnosed infertility issues. The and/or is the important statement here. ;) We welcome you to join whether you're trying to conceive for the first time, already have children, have suffered miscarriages, you're seeking treatment or not.

For non-members:
We always welcome supporters and cheerleaders! Please understand that this is our own safe place to discuss infertility and our feelings about it, and keep your comments supportive and on-topic. Thanks!

Table of Contents for Page 1:
Post 1: Members (part I)
Post 2: Members (part II)
Post 3: Members who are expecting
Post 4: Members' BABIES! (part I)
Post 5: Resources (including HPT Sensitivity Comparison)
Post 6: Links to old threads, recent congrats & condolences


Your current threadmistress is Cts_Punkin - please try post all updates in red so that they're easier to see!

Still At It...Membershttp://www.webmuseum.com/blove/ttc.gif
in alphabetical order by user name

ag05
Me: 32
DH: 30
Married 5/01
TTC since 1/04
Clomid 50 mg 5/04
Clomid 100 mg 6/04
Clomid 150 mg 7/04
Clomid 150 8/04 - pregnant
11/04- missed miscarriage w/ D&C (13 weeks)
Clomid 150 mg 2/05 - pregnant
2/05 - miscarriage (6 weeks)
Started seeing RE 5/05
Known issues - Compound heterozygeous MTHFR, mild PCO pattern
8/05 Femara 5 mg/Ovidrel shot
9/05 Femara/Ovidrel shot

Alioop12345
TTC #2 since 5/05
On: Estradiol, Gonal F, HcG and Progesterone supps

Bumble
Me – 29 (for 12 more days)
DH - 33
Married – 8.31.03
Charting – 1.05
TTC – 4.05
Off BCP - years
Issues - impatient-ness trying for 7 months
m/c in June 05 @ 8wks

bunky
Me: 30
DH: 31
Married: 10/02
TTC: since 09/04
Off BCP: since 03/04
Charting: since 02/05
Irregular cycles
12/04: CD 3 bloodwork showed slightly elevated LH
05/05: DH's SA normal
05/05: Clomid 50mg - ovulated on CD 16
06/05: Clomid 100mg - ovulated on CD 20
06/05: HSG showed left tube blocked, bicornuate uterus
07/05: MRI shows septate uterus, not bicornuate
07/05: Laparoscopy/hysteroscopy removes septum and endo
09/05: 2nd HSG shows normal uterus and both tubes open
09/05: First cycle with RE; Clomid 50mg/trigger/IUI
FF Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/91107/)

Cath
Me: Catherine, 32
DH: 34
Married: 11/01
TTC: 11/03
Diagnosed w/PCOS in July 2004
Clomid didn't work, now Follistim
3 failed IUIs
1 chemical pregnancy a month we were taking a break(10/05)[/size]

CTs_Punkin
Me - MMT (33)
DH - CT (36)
Married - 11/2004
Charting - 1/2005
TTC - 1/2005
Off BCP - 11/2004
Issues - HSG results - possible left tube blocked - Seeing RE in Jan
Not ovulating - starting 50mg Clomid Dec 05
bloodwork came back normal
DH to have SA soon

DaniML
Me: Daniela - 29
DH: Ross - 36
Married: 04/13/03
TTC: 06/04
11/04: Cervical Ectopic (2 shots of methotrexate to terminate)
TTC again: 01/05
11/05: Dx: Borderline diabetis (weight related) & PCOS, Metformin (850 mg twice a day, but changing to 500 mg twice, and then later 3 times, a day because they are making me sick)

DallasLady
Me - Giovanna (25)
DH - Tony (39)
Married - 9/01
Charting - 11/2002
TTC - 1/2005
Issues - Low sperm count (14mil/ml) and low morphology (6% Kruger)
First IUI cycle 11/2005- BFN

Elenna
Me: 31
DH: 33
Married: 9/11/04
Off BCP since 7/04
TTC w/ Charting since 11/04, SWH for 4-5 months in the middle of that time
Chart: http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/4b883
Known issues: S/A results are abnormal 9% morphology and low (24%) motility. Family history of progesterone problems.

Freckles
WC Name: ilovepac
ME: 29
DH: 36
Married since: 2/1/03
Off BCP since: Never really on BCPs
TTC since: 6/04
Charting since: 9/04
Known issues/test results:Too many issues to list here, but suffice to say I am taking a drug cocktail of clomid 100 mg, progesterone, and estrogen.

gator97
Me: Kristen (30)
DH: Peter (30)
Married since: 11/06/04
Off BCP since: 12/04
TTC since: 2/05
Known issues/test results: dx stage 2-3 endometriosis/adenomyosis 8/05
9/05 - Chem PG

gigglespca
Me: 36
DH: 40
Married 10/01
TTC since 1/02
prescribed Clomid 50 mg 1/05 by obgyn then went to RE for fear of cysts
Clomid 50 mg 1/05
Clomid 50 mg 2/05 - pregnant
4/05- missed miscarriage w/ D&E (12 weeks)
6/05 Trying again! Clomid 50 mg
RE appt 7/1/05 17mm follicle on left side no trigger shot due to size
Currently on 200 mg of prometrium orally twice a day after ovulation

graciebella
Me: 34
DH: 30
Married 10/04
TTC since 10/04 with a break 3/05 to 10/05
Clomid 50 mg 10/05
Known issues - 1 blocked tube, irregular ovulation
Hysteroscopy/Uterine Polypectomy 6/05
previous pregnacy no issues 3/92

Gymwidow
ME: 29
DH: 29
Married since: 6/03
Off BCP since: 2/05
Charting since: 2/05
TTC since: 7/05
Known issues: PCOS diagnosed 9/05, HSG clear 10/05, SA normal 11/05
Treatment: 11/05: 50 mg Clomid = 1 good follie, late O ~CD20, short LP

Happy1
Me: Nikki
DH: Tim
Married: June 8, 2002
Forever in our hearts: Jacob John born and died
10/6/03 at 35 weeks due to genetic issues.
TTC #2 since: January 2004
Known Fertility Issues: DH has an extremely low sperm count which we just found out about a month ago. He has seen a Urologist but there are no physical signs that would explain the decrease.

jjsanner
Me - Jen (31)
DH - Eric (33)
Married - 4/03
DS - Elijah 2/04
Charting - 10/2004
TTC #2 - 4/2005
Issues - None known, late ovulation, currently on 1st cycle 50mg Clomid w/ Metformin

jlp
Me: 31
DH: 40
Married: 01/04
TTC: since 07/04
Off BCP: since 03/04
Diagnosed with PCOS: 10/04
Irregular cycles, multiple cysts
04/05: Clomid 150mg - small follies/O on CD21 - failed
05/05: Clomid 200mg - 3 large follies/HCG shot on CD 18 - failed
06/05: Clomid 200mg - 2 medium follies/repeat U/S 7/1 - HCG shot

julesp313
Me: 34
DH: 39
Married: March 2003
Charting: September 2003
TTC: December 2004
Issues: None known
BFP - 12/2005
M/C - 12/05 @ 6w


KaliLily
Me: 32
DH: 32
Married: 8/16/97
TTC #1: On Prometrium now to induce period, will begin Clomid 100mg on CD5
Issues: PCOS (Diagnosed 1996)

Katmg
Me: 26
DH: 30
Married: 11/08/03
Off BCP since: 5/04
Charting since: 8/04
TTC w/ Charting since: 1/05 (took a break when I started a new job) 05/05
Chart:
Issues:Male factor/low sperm count/morphology.

Kemorr
Me: 29
DH: 31
Married: 1/5/2002
TTC: September 2004
known issues: short LP, spotting, low forward progression, low morphology.
HSG normal, day 3 bloodwork normal, 7 DPO progesterone normal except for most recent cycle - slightly low.
Clomid 50 mg 4/05 - BFN, Clomid 50 mg with IUI, trigger and progesterone
6/05 - BFN
7/05 - Clomid, HCG trigger and IUI - BFN
8/05 - chemical pregnancy
9/05 - injectibles with IUI, BFN and 10/05 treatment break, laparoscopy and hysteroscopy
10/05 - Laparoscopy and hysteroscopy, stage 2 endo diagnosed and treated.
10/23 IUI with injectibles BFN

kischer
kisch
WC name- kisch
kischer=ME (31)
hubby=DH (31)
Married- 10/6/01
TTC- 5/02
HSG- tubes clear
SA- normal
Off BCP- of course
M/C's - 7/04 & 12/04
RE - since 9/04-
Clomid - 7 cycles, 2 OBGYN, 5 RE, I think
HCG - 2 cycles
Acupuncture - yes- 4 cycles
back at the RE - 10/05
Letrozol/Femara - 10/05

klav
Married: 10/03
TTC: since 1/04
Off BCP: since 1/03
MC: 11/04
regular cycles: about 28 days but have been fulcuatio sence MC in Nov
Laperoscapie: 02/03?? could not find anything causing pelvic pain
HSG:7/05 thought there might be a blocked tube but to know they would have to do another Lap. not interested because they said everything was fine before??with the first Lap.
All Blood work done for IUI: 6/05
06/05: Clomid 50mg , Estrodil and progesterone - failed
010/05: Clomid 100mg, Estrodil and progesterone will only be one month. Oct
Will begin IUI class in Nov
Currently: Waiting to O at the present time
Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/21291)

knoelani
Me: K / 29
DH: B / 33
TTC: 12-2001
Dx: Late ovulation, PCO w/ 80% of symptoms of PCOS, SA issues
1-05: 50 mg Clomid
1-28-5: HSG, all clear
2-05: 100mg Clomid, 1500 mg Metformin
3-05: 100 mg Clomid, 1500 mg Metformin
4-05- DH SA poor results, clomid break, still taking 1500 mg Met
5-6-5: DH SA & urologist appointment: A okay, could be improved slightly
with lifestyle changes
6-16-05: 1st RE appointment
7-05: 100mg Clomid
8-05: 150mg Clomid, 1st IUI - Failed
9-05: 150mg Clomid, 2nd IUI
IUI #2: Failed
10-05 to end of year: Break from all things medical

[SAI Ladies]

Members (continued)

La_bride_2004
me: 32
DH: 36
TTC since Feb 04
HSG, all tests normal
Dx: male factor, poor SCSA
CC1, 3 IUI's- all BFN
IVF #1 Dec 04: OHSS/biochem/m/c
FET#1 June 05: biochem/m/c
Aug 2005- varicocele repair surgery for DH
Status: waiting to TTC in 6 months or whenever we get a good SCSA!
Chem pregnancy # 3, 11/05

Lucy Van Pelt
Me: Ginger - 35
DH: Brad - 30
TTC: 3/04
Dx: PCOS 1/05 (no reg periods since I started menstruating at age 12 - usually 6-8 months apart)
4/05: HSG - all clear, SA - perfect (of course, as DH put it, "even my sperm are over achievers")
5/05: 50 mg Clomid - nothing
6/05: 100mg Clomid - ovulated, but had horrid migraines
7/05: Femara
8/05: BFP
9/05: m/c at 6 weeks
10/05: Femara
11/05 BFP
11/05 m/c at 6 weeks
12/05 Metformin


Marteneym
Me: 23
DH: 27
Married since: 10/4/03
Off BCP since: 9/04
SWH since: 10/04
TTC since: 12/04
Fertility Blend cycles 4,5,6
Known issues: Delayed Ovulation, SA issues, Varicocele possible
9/05 Clomid 50mg
9/9 FSH and Rubella- NORMAL
9/12 SA ABNORMAL- count 30mil/
motility 30%
10/05 Clomid 100mg
11/05 Chlomid 100mg
12/12 IUI #1- failed
SA IMPROVED
count 30mil/Motility 70%
12/05 Chlomid 100mg

MrsSmith
Me: 25
DH: 26
Married: 3/2003
Issues: PCOS, random cycle lengths and no ovulation
TTC: we never officially started, but we've never prevented either
RE visit: 6/2005 - PCOS, suggested Provera and Clomid
Clomid 100mg in OCt 2005

MSH
Me: 24
DH: 24
Married: August 2003
TTC: August 2003
Off BCP: Never on them
Charting: December 2003
12/04: DH had surgery to correct SA issue
02/05: PG!! - m/c'ed at 5w4d
04/05: PG!! - m/c'ed at 5w6d
08/05: CP
11/05: CP - was perscribed prog sup.
01/06: Waiting to have HSG done to make sure tubes are open and there are no other problems

Nigellas
Me: Kerry
DH: Chris
Married: 8.7.01
TTC: Off and on since 2001.
4 miscarriages (11 wks, 19 wks, 6 wks and 12 wks)
RE is stumped – unexplained RPL.
Currently on Femarra and Prometrium.

ocgatita
Me: Judy
DH: Edward
Married: 4/04
TTC #1 since: 6/04
Known Fertility Issues: None, will seek medical intervention if we haven't
conceived by early next year.

paisleydays
Me: Amy (34)
DH: Andy (32)
Married: 7.02
TTC: 1.04
Charting: 1.046.05 1st meet w/RE
6.05 SA=low count, low motility
6.05 3rd day BW=High FSH
Currently doing acupuncture & looking for a new RE

Patience
Me: 33
DH: 34
Married: 10/03
TTC: 12/04 (with charting)
Issue: Anovulatory cycles or very weak ovulation, delayed ovulation
Treatment: Acupuncture and Chinese herbs


pocket
Me: Pocket, 33
DH: Pita, 30
Married: 8/23/03
TTC: Begin Clomid 50mg August
Issues: PCOS, Hypothyroid

Polkadot
Me - Lauren 26
DH - Brian 27
Married - 11/20/2004
Charting - 5/2005
TTC - 5/2005
Off BCP - 5/2005
Issues - impatient-ness trying for 8 months
1st TTC issues Dr. apt Dec. 19th


rebekah
both of us are 28
married 8/16/03
off bcp 01/04
first started ttc 7/04
tests done - dh had semen analysis and everything is ok on his end, we are going to wait one or two more cycles before i go for testing

shouldaeloped
me: Heather, 32
DH: Neal, 34
Married: 10/19/02
TTC: 10/04
2 miscarriages: 1st 1/05 at 12w2d, natural and 2nd 5/05 at 9w2d, d&c
currently waiting for cycles to get back to normal and testing to be completed to try again. bloodwork and SHG scheduled for 7/8/05

skb
Me: 31
DH: 32
TTC: 10/04
Known issues: None. Upcoming HSG.
HSG (Nov 2005): differential bicornaute or septate uterus

suzfuzsunflower
Me: 24
DH: 24
Married: 08/09/2003
TTC: March 2005
Charting: March 2005
Known Issues: annovulatory cycles, random cycle length
10/05 - HSG shows blocked or partially blocked right tube
11/05 - 50mg clomid
01/06 - 100mg clomid


Suzlywoozly
Me: Sue/27 DH: Jeff/31
Married: 6/15/02
TTC: 10/02
10/02: 1st Lap-Found ovarian cysts and endo
4/04: Started Progesterone supplements and 25 mg clomid
8/04: 50mg clomid - Had no follicles
9/04: 100mg clomid - Had 2 follicles and 1st failed IUI
10/04: 100mg clomid - Had 1 follicle and 2nd failed IUI
11/04: No clomid due to 2 ovarian cysts. Started Metformin 1500mg/day
12/04: No clomid due to "large mass" and ovarian cyst on left ovary.
Surgery the second week of January.
m/c 6/05
IVF 8/05-9/05
9/05 IVF cycle #1: BFN
10/05-11/05 IVF cycle #2:Waiting to do a FET
11/05 FET #1-transfered two blasts; waiting for beta on 12/2

Thea
Me=Thea 29
DH = Craig, 36
TTC since July 2004
Off BCP May 2004
HSG left tube blocked, tubal cath opened tube
Clomid challenge test, other bloodwork normal
SA (X3) low normal morphology %, very high sperm count
Will begin with 3-4 cycles IUI in January 06 then reevaluate


thedoorchick (jasonsbride on the WC)
Me: Emily (35)
DH: Jason (31)
Married: 1/19/02
TTC: 11/02 to 3/03, then 12/04 (took a hiatus due to jobs, etc).
Charting: 7/02
SA: High count and motility, low morphology (1%)
M/C: 5/03, 3/05, 4/05
9/05 - 100mg Clomid, failed IUI
12/05 - 100mg Clomid, failed IUI

TravelGirl
Me - 34
DH - 34
Married - 7/01
Son - 8/03
TTC - 5/2004
Charting - 11/2004
IF issues - None that we know of.

Wonderousglance
Me: 27
DH: 31
TTC since 1/02 with many breaks in between
Endometriosis diagnosed by laparoscopy in March 05
Just started seeing RE and in the process of getting all the diagnostic tests done

*~*~*~BABYDUST*~*~*

[SAI Ladies]

Taking a Break

hangin'in
Me: Jen (39)
DH: Ron (27)
Married: 10-03
TTC: 10-03
Dx: High FSH in May 04 (13.25) Given Donor Egg speech by RE. FSH retested in February, numbers came back in normal range. Did 1 month of ccupuncture in March.
IUI 2/05, failed
IUI 4/30/05, 2failed
IUI 6/05 failed
the Dr. really only recommends Donor Eggs at this time, and DH and I aren't ready to do that.

la_bride_2004
me: 32
DH: 36
TTC since Feb 04
HSG, all tests normal
Dx: male factor, poor SCSA
CC1, 3 IUI's- all BFN
IVF #1 Dec 04: OHSS/biochem/m/c
FET#1 June 05: biochem/m/c
Aug 2005- varicocele repair surgery for DH
Status: waiting to TTC in 6 months or whenever we get a good SCSA!

tigerest
Me-28
DH-29
Married 7/6/02
Off BCP 7/03 (started charting 11/03)
Early M/C - 1/04
10/04 - DH's SA Normal
1/14/05 - Laparoscopy and Chromotubation = Both tubes blocked
2/15/05 - HSG confirms both tubes blocked
4/15/05 - Laparoscopy #2 a success! Both tubes surgically repaired.
Continuous Acupuncture
TTC again in June! :D

Moving on to adoption
Karlatta
Me: Karla, 25
DH: Scott, 26
Married: June 2002
TTC: July 2003
PCOS, Endometriosis, Only One Tube
11/04 - 1st IUI, Pregnant!
Miscarriage 1/05
05/05 - 2nd IUI, Failed
10/05 - 3rd IUI, Failed
Moving on to Adoption

[SAI Ladies]

http://home.hot.rr.com/lizandrob/smilie_file/smilie_preggo1.gifMEMBERS EXPECTING:
in order by due date and color coded by sex where known

February 2006

angelgirl8
me: angelgirl8 27 dh: also 27
married: 7.6.03
ttc: 1.04
testing: cd3 and 7dpo blood tests fairly normal
5.04: SA normal
9.04: HSG-tubes clear
9.04, 10.04, 11.04: clomid, IUI, trigger, progesterone
12.04: gonal-f 150iu, IUI, trigger, progesterone
3.04: IVF#1 (all but 1 of the 22 fertilized eggs multinucleated and fragmented; transferred 1 4-celled embryo on day 3)
5.04: IVF#2; added metformin: PREGNANT 6/05!!!!
TWINS!! tentatively due 2/12/06

Christy559
Me: Amanda (26)
DH: Matt (29)
Married: 6/29/02
Off BCP 1/03
TTC: 9/03
FF Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/3d9f6)
PREGNANT 6/05!!!!
Due 2/06

March 2006

amychris03
Me: Amy (29) DH: Chris (34)
TTC: Since 9/03
Diagnosed with PCOS: May 04, currently taking Metformin
Injectables cycle # 1- 8/04: Follistim was a success! ended in an Ectopic PG
Laparoscopy 2/24/05 revealed lack of musculature around tubes
IVF #1 6/15/05
PREGNANT 7/05!!!!
Due 3/22/06

heidi0622
Name: Heidi - 29
DH: Mike - 29
Married: 6/22/02
TTC: March '04, Charting: June '04
Known issues: m/c 10/04 at 5.5 weeks, saline U/S normal, bw normal, SA
excellent, unexplained IF
Treatments: Started 50mg Clomid 06/05
PREGNANT 7/05!!!!
Due 3/22/06

April 2006

Kopper
Me: Katie (26)
DH: John (28)
Married: 9/21/02
TTC: 7/04
Charting: 03/04
6/05 3rd day BW normal
6/05 HSG all clear
6/05 SA normal count and motility, low morphology
Starting IUI next cycle
FF Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/9e5e6)
PREGNANT 7/05!!!!
Due 4/6/2006

amygrrl
me: amy (35)
dh: dan (33)
dd: ~avery elizabeth~ born still on June 3, 2005 at 27 wks from possible
cord accident (we love you, baby girl!)
frozen embries: 3 on ice from our round with Avery
TTC since: March 2003
Treatments: 6 failed rounds of Clomid. 1 successful IVF producing
Avery
PREGNANT 8/5/05!!!! our miracle baby!
EDD: 4/18/2006

jrsygirl
Me: Holly (31)
DH: Brian (32)
Married:September 2002
TTC: 9/04
M/C: 12/04
7/05 injectibles and IUI
PREGNANT 8/18/05!!!!
EDD 4/28/2006

Scooter
Me: 29, DH: 32
married: 8/01
m/c 8/02 at 5.5weeks
TTC since 4/03, charting since 9/02
Unexplained IF, uterine polyps removed 6/04
8/04 failed 50mg clomid cycle
10/04 & 11/04 failed clomid 100mg & progesterone
1/05 new RE, suspects immunological issues, began baby aspirin and Folgard
2 more cycles clomid (100mg) + IUI = failed
started accupuncture
2 cycles letrozole (2.5mg) +IUI + progesterone = failed
7/05 bravelle (1.5 amps) + IUI + progesterone = success!
FF Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/18494)
PREGNANT 8/18/05!!!!
EDD 4/29/2006

May 2006

catJennifer
Me: Jennifer (29)
DH: 30
Married: 10/26/02
TTC: 4/04
Charting: 10/04
Stats: PCOS, elevated prolactin
Meds: Dostinex, Metformin XR 2000mg
5/04: SA normal
10/04: HSG normal
10/04, 11/04, 12/04: 50 mg Clomid
3/05: 100 mg Clomid + IUI
4/05: Femara
8/05: Follistim, trigger, progesterone
PREGNANT 9/6/05!!!!
EDD: 5/16/06

June 2006

Baby Lust
Me: Amanda (23)
DH: Shane (27)
Married: 10/19/02
TTC: 3/04
Charting: 6/04
SA: High count, low motility
Clomid: 50mg April, May ; 100mg June, September
Chemical Pregnancy: June
BFP: 9/30/05 after 100 mg Clomid, Round 2
FF Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/Shanes_Angel)

bottleored
Me: Caroline (38)
DH: Paul (42)
Married: 10.03
TTC: 1.04
Charting: 3.04
Uterine Polyp: 5.04 (D&C, hysteroscopy)
SA normal, b/w normal
9.04 - 5.05: 6 rounds Clomid
10.04: HSG - left tube blocked
1.05: Tubal recanalization - left tube unblocked!
1.05, 2.05: very low HCG results, discovered antibody issue
6.05, 8.05: injectibles (and low dose HCG), blood thinner, progesterone
BFP 8.29.05 m/c 9/05
9.05: injectibles
FF Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/44b0a)


ds2003
Me: 27
DH: 31
Married since: 11/08/03
Off BCP: 12/03
TTC since: 6/04
Charting since: 7/04
Known issues: dx PCOS 7/04, annovulatory
Test results: DH's SA-normal; HSG 1/14/05-normal;
-->Ovarian Drilling 5/20/05- I'm finally ovulating
3 failed Clomid cycles before Ovarian Drilling (50, 100, 150 mg)
Meds: Currently taking 1500mg Metformin and 5mg Femara/letrazole
BFP October 2005!
FF Chart (http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ds2003)

July 2006
ShelbyMay
Me: 25
DH: 27
Married: 05/17/2003
TTC: 2/05
Charting: 9/04
Known Issues: Possible semen allergy; antibodies could be inhibiting
sperm

August 2006
Jennylou
Me: Jenny
DH: Sean
Married: 9/20/03
PCOS
Forever in our hearts, DS Andrew Wyatt 5/20-5/22/05
TTC #2 with clomid and metformin
July 2005 - 50 mg - BFN - 9 day LP
August 2005 - 50 mg - BFN - 13 day LP, spot arrived 11 dpo
September 2005 - 100 mg - BFN - 12 day LP, spot arrived 11 dpo
October 2005 - 100 mg - BFN - 11 day LP
November 2005 - 100 mg - pregnant!!!

babylove
Me - T (27)
DH - K (31)
Married - 8/2003
Charting - 11/2004
TTC - 3/2005
m/c @ 6w4d in 4/2005
Issues - Luteal Phase Defect (low progesterone, late/erratic O, long cycles)
Clomid 50 mg (O on CD17) - 09/2005 BFN
Clomid 50 mg (O on CD 17) - 10/2005 BFN
Clomid 50 mg w/ u/s and b/w monitoring (O on CD 18) BFP!! - 11/2005

September 2006

UTChick
Me: 28
DH: 34
Married 9/20/03
Off BCP since 12/04
SWH until 5/05
TTC w/ Charting since 5/05
Known issues: irregular ovulation
HSG normal
BFP - DEC 05

Stephanie
Me: Stephanie, 25
DH: Brian, 29
Married: 10/6/01
TTC: 3/04
Known issues: None, that we know of yet. Varicocele possible.
SA to be done in the next month. Cycles returning to normal after BCP.
BFP 12/2005

[SAI Ladies]

http://circles2.fertilityfriend.com/Circles/images/smiles/icon_baby_boy.gifBABIES!!http://circles2.fertilityfriend.com/Circles/images/smiles/icon_baby_girl.gif
in order by birth and color coded by sex

Akire
Me: Erika - 34 DH: Jeff - 37
Off BCP: 7/03
TTC: 7/03
Charting: 8/03
HSG: 5/04 - One clear tube
BFP 11/04!! - EDD 8/6/05
Sydney Allyn 8/07/05 @ 3:23pm, 8lbs 8oz, 21.5in

Carissa (Crosew on WC)
Me: Carissa (25) DH: Eric (25)
TTC: Since 3/03
Diagnosed with PCOS and low progesterone.
Clomid, Metformin, prometrium and trigger shot
BFP 3/04, M/C 4.04
BFP 9/04!!! - EDD 5/25/05
Grace Elizabeth 5/15/05

Jennylou
Me: jenny
DH: Sean
Married: 9/20/03
PCOS
50 mg clomid and 1500 mg glucaphage
Forever in our hearts, DS
Andrew Wyatt 5/20-5/22/05

amygrrl
me: amy (35)
dh: dan (33)
TTC since: March 2003
Treatments: 6 failed rounds of Clomid. 1 successful IVF
Avery Elizabeth born still on June 3, 2005 at 27
weeks from possible cord accident (we love you, baby girl!)

[SAI Ladies]

Abbreviations and acronyms
List of TTC & IF acronyms
written out (http://womens-place.com/ttc/ttcacronyms.php)

HPT Sensitivity Comparison Charts
Fertility Plus (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hpt.html)
Pee On A Stick (http://www.peeonastick.com/hpts.html)
Mama's Ark (http://www.mamasark.com/hpt.htm)
Baby
Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com/pregnancy-test-sensitivity.html) (they've checked with the manufacturers to verify the numbers)
Remember, the hCG starts at 1 at implantation and increases as time goes
on, so the smaller amount of hCG it measures, the more sensitive the test
is!

Books
Taking Charge of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler, MPH (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060937645/qid=1041654042/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

The Fertility Sourcebook by M. Sara Rosenthal, PHD (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0737303808/qid=1042220393/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books)

Healing the Infertile Family by Gay Becker (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0520211804/qid=1125724439/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/103-5989308-5276662?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

Inconceivable
by Ben Elton (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385334656/qid=1041659461/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=books) The movie "Maybe Baby" (below) is based on this book

Inconceivable:A Woman's Triumph Over Despair and Statistics by Julia Indichova (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0767908201/qid=1059292613/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

The Infertility Diet: Get Pregnant & Prevent Miscarriage by Fern Reiss (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1893290395/qid=1059292976/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2812959-1358247?v=glance&s=books)

Conquering Infertility: Dr. Domar's Mind/Body Guide to Enhancing Fertility & Coping with Infertility by Alice Domar, Phd (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0670031550/qid=1059293116/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/103-2812959-1358247)

Girlfriend to Girlfriend: A Fertility Companion by Kristen Magnacca (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1588202135/qid=1082306449/sr=8-2/ref=pd_ka_2/104-9895052-8814318?v=glance&s=books&n=507846)

Great List of books for Infertility (http://www.ein.org/infertility/books.htm)
Includes these and more!!

Movies
Maybe Baby (2001) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000062XKW/qid=1041654127/sr=8-4/ref=sr_8_4/104-0287896-1655948?v=glance&s=video&n=507846)

She's Having A Baby (1988) (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6300988996/qid%3D1041654195/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-0287896-1655948)

Websites (by subject)

Charting
Ovusoft aka TCOYF (http://www.ovusoft.com/)
The site for Toni Weschler's book which includes message boards, chat and cycle galleries which are very helpful.

Fertility Friend (www.fertilityfriend.com)
A free charting site which includes a lot of information and cycle galleries.

Local Support
RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/chapters/resolvenearyou.jsp?name=chapters) Nation-wide referrals to local support groups and therapists.

The American Infertility Association (http://www.americaninfertility.org)
Lots of information and support, including message boards and chat rooms.

Financial Concerns
ARC: Advanced Reproductive Care (http://www.arcfertility.com/)
information on financing infertility treatments

Family Fee Plan (http://www.amerifee.com/fertility-financing/index.asp)
information on financing infertility treatments

State Insurance Requirements (http://www.resolve.org/main/national/advocacy/insurance/index.jsp?name=advocacy&tag=insurance)
Links from the Resolve site about insurance & laws.

Inciid's Insurance pages (http://www.inciid.org/index.php)
Click through menu on right for more financial topics and the insurance
forum.

General TTC
Trying To Conceive.com (http://www.tryingtoconceive.com/)
All things TTC! Lots of info as well as a place to buy herbal therapies for conceiving.

Baby Med (http://www.babymed.com/)
Tons of information. Everything from Chinese gender charts to an FAQ section on pretty much any TTC question you could have.

Baby Hopes (http://www.babyhopes.com)
Baby makin' supplies!

OBGYN.net (http://www.obgyn.net/)
Lots of general info on women's health. They also have doctors on line who answer questions.

Infertility Sites
INCIID (http://www.inciid.org/) Pronounced "inside".
(The International Council on Infertility Information Dissemination) Excellent national resource.

Resolve (http://www.resolve.org)
Wonderful site with lots of infertility information and support.

I dream of baby (http://www.idreamofbaby.com/fertility.php)
Learn the basics of fertility issues here. This site also has a great message
board community!

Fertility
Plus.org�s list of female hormone levels (http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hormonelevels.html#female)
Starting your fertility work-up? Check out this site to see a list of the commonly tested female hormone levels, the function of each hormone, and the normal levels of each hormone.

Shared Journey (http://www.sharedjourney.com)
Shared Journey is dedicated to providing quality information on topics such as
infertility, miscarriage, surrogacy, pregnancy after infertility, living child-free, and adoption. Our information is supplied by well noted Reproductive Endocrinologist's, Psychologists, Adoption professionals and links through various sites.

FertileHeart (http://www.fertileheart.com)
A community of people exploring holistic approaches to fertility. A site by author Julia Indichova (see books above)

Specific IF Issues
Soul Cysters (http://www.soulcysters.com)
PCOS site with lots of support and info

Dr. Beer (http://www.repro-med.net)
Reproductive Immunology information, including lists of tests, pricing, local referrals

Reproductive
Immunology Support (http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/immunologysupport/)
Yahoo group for RI patients, tons of info and articles

Info for Family and Friends
Empty Arms (http://www.vocalicious.com/empty_arms/empty_arms_mod.html)
This is a great video so they can understand what you're going through. (And get out your kleenex!)

[SAI Ladies]

Welcome to the Holiday 2005 Still At It thread on Constant Chatter! Let's all hope (and pray if you wish!) that this new thread will mark the beginning of an unprecedented amount of fertility on the board...


In our last thread we have sent a hearty
congratulations to these happy members!!:
TravelGirl
BabyLust
bottleored
ds2003
ShelbyMay

In this thread we have sent a hearty congratulations to these happy members!!!:
jennylou

Our condolences to:
Lucy Van Pelt


We welcomed these new members:
UTChick
Elenna

Members we'd like to hear updates from:
Freckles
gigglespca
Happy1
jlp
KaliLily
paisleydays
shouldaeloped




previous members who are expecting or had their babies!
Let us put you back in the stats!

[jennylou]

This thread is open for posting in! Hope we have lots of holiday announcements this year. :)

[karlatta]

Jenny, I know I've "moved on", but can you update my stats? Thanks!

Karlatta
Me: Karla, 25
DH: Scott, 26
Married: June 2002
TTC: July 2003
PCOS, Endometriosis, Only One Tube
11/04 - 1st IUI, Pregnant!
Miscarriage 1/05
05/05 - 2nd IUI, Failed
10/05 - 3rd IUI, Failed
Moving on to Adoption

[Asha]

i have a question for the ladies. my gyn said that the next course of action might be clomid. i know there is a pretty high chance of having multiples with it. i am very worried about that bc that might mean bedrest, and as i am going to school full time, it would be hard for me to have to take a break from school. does anyone else share my concerns about the possiblity of having a multiple birth. it's not that i am so against it. it just worries me a little bit.

[wonderousglance]

Subscribing....

[karlatta]

Rebjc - My RE used Letrozole (also called Femara) instead of Clomid. He said that it lowered the chances of multiples, and the side effects are better.

Also, when you do Clomid or Letrozole, some doctors will have you come in for a Day 12 ultrasound to see how many follicles you have. That would give you a good indication, before you even conceived, as to how likely you might be to have multiples.

[jennylou]

reb - Actually, when considering fertility drugs, clomid is considered a low level drug. It also only has an 8-10% increased chance of multiples. That's an increase over your regular chances at it. I don't really worry about things like bedrest and my job. I worry about DH not being able to hook me up online for the first several days of bedrest. :p I'd rather be online than watch tv. ;)

karla - I updated you. Be sure and stop back often to see us.

wonderousglance - How are things with you?

Hope everyone had a nice holiday. It was tough, and we shed some tears, but it wasn't nearly as bad as I expected.

[UTChick]

I hope you all had a good Thanksgiving. Ours was very laid back and small this year since a lot of family members were unable to come into town.

Jenny~I am relieved to hear that your Thanksgiving wasn't as hard as you had anticipated.

rebjc~I am writing my thesis next summer and defending it in the fall, so I have worried about bedrest, due dates, etc. Plus, I am a teacher and looking for something new after this school year, so I have also worried about finding a new job and all this happening. However, since this process has become longer and more involved than I thought, I am not worried about it anymore. There is a strong possibility that I could switch jobs, finish my thesis, and even graduate before getting pg or having a baby, so I just let go of my concerns about school and work.

thedoorchick~Hope AF shows soon so you can get moving on the next cycle!


I decided to ask my mom's aunt and my great grandmother about their fertility troubles yesterday. I was curious as to what the issues were exactly. As it turns out, my mom's uncle had had a surgery in the military and they accidentally nicked something - I don't remember now what - but it prevented the sperm from travelling properly. They tried to do corrective surgery but it didn't work. They adopted my mom's cousin. This was all back in the late 50's - early 60's. My great grandmother had her two children with no problem and then had a series of miscarriages. She ended up having an infection in one of her tubes, which was removed along with the ovary. She was never able to get pg again and had a full hysterectomy in the 50's. We talked about the testing I am going through and it was a really good conversation because they understood my frustrations. It was so nice. Usually I hear from my mom that we are "trying too hard" and that we "just need to relax." And my aunt always brings up how all my uncle had to do was look at her and she got pg. :rolleyes: It was just nice to talk to people in my family who understood. Oops! Didn't mean to ramble for so long! Have a good Friday.

[katmg]

rebjc - I don't worry too much about the chances of multiples with Clomid - I know there is an increased risk but I figure, there's not much use worrying about it until it actually happens. I worry more that the Clomid won't work at all but I can understand that it would be stressful to have a multiples pregnancy.

jenny - Glad that Thanksgiving wasn't as bad as anticipated and that you have DH to lean on for support at these times.

UT - I felt so much better after I talked to my mom about her and my grandmother's fertility problems. It's nice to have someone IRL (other than DH) who you can share these things with. (off-topic* Are you getting ready to watch the big game today??)

As for me, AF showed up this morning. I was fully expecting it after my temp dropped two days ago. Expected it but still disappointed. I'm more disappointed that DH hasn't been able to get in and get his SA done yet so I can't start Clomid this cycle. :( I'm really just hoping that this cycle goes by fast so that we can move on to the next one where I'll be able to start meds!

[UTChick]

katmg~I am about to head over to my parents' house. They are having a game-watching party!

[kemorr]

Hi all,

I haven't been posting much, but have been lurking.

An update on me - I had my laparoscopy and hysteroscopy in Oct and they diagnosed stage 2 endo. Three days after my surgery AF came, so I started a cycle of injectibles with IUI - my 5th IUI, 3rd with Gonal-F. Unfortunately, i didn't have a very good response to the meds and triggered with only 1 x 15 mm follie and a bunch of 8 mm follies. As expected, BFN and AF showed today.

Today I went in for baseline US and labs. My estrogen and FSH are fine but I have a 43 mm cyst on left ovary and a 13 mm cyst on my right. Heck knows where they came from, given the pathetic follies I had at trigger. Anyway, I am allowed to start meds (Gonal-F again) on Sunday, but if the cyst grows with the meds we will have to cancel this cycle. This is my last cycle before moving onto IVF, so please keep your fingers crossed for us that it won't have to be cancelled.

Threadmistress - can you update my stats to 10/23 IUI with injectibles BFN? I'm putting this in bold and italics because for some reason I can't find how to change the color of the font anymore. Can anyone tell me where it has gone?

[MrsSmith]

Hey ladies

Lucy - I'm so sorry for what you are going through right now. Don't be afraid to take all the time you need to heal and greive. We're here for you.

Jenny - I'm so glad to hear that you were able to get through Thanksgiving.

kemorr - I'm wishing you the best this cycle!

rebjc - I only did Clomid for one cycle so far and I haven't had multiples...LOL...seriously though, the chances are pretty low.

Please update my stats to Clomid 100mg in OCt 2005. Also, hubby is a year older now. Thanks!

[knoelani]

I have nothing to add, just subscribing...

Jenny, I'm glad the holiday wasn't as tough as you thought it would be, hopefully you got to enjoy some of it.

kemorr & katmg, I hope this next cycle brings you luck!

Hope everyone else had a good holiday.

[Asha]

thanks for all the input. i should just be happy if clomid works at all and not worry about multiples, but i am just very practical, and in addition to being a mother i want to have a successful career. i am sure this is something many of you worry about too, so i know it's not unique to me.

[la_bride_2004]

I hate to dump and run, but here's an update:

Chem pregnancy # 3, 11/05

Sigh. Not even sure what to tell you. We weren't trying- it's too soon after K's surgery.

[julesp313]

Just a quickie - still at the ILs but heading out the door as soon as DH finishes loading up the car. 10DPO, nothing doing, no signs, nothing different from any other cycle... sigh. Still, it's nearly Christmas, my favorite holiday season, so I'm going to at least TRY to stay upbeat and happy for that. And my daddy is coming to visit from England for a few weeks so that's always good... :)

[knoelani]

La_bride_2004, I'm sorry to hear about the chemical pg, I hope you're doing ok.

[jennylou]

labride - I'm sorry to hear of another chem pregnancy. :(

Well, this weekend has been a good one. Saturday afternoon/evening, I took an HPT and got a BFP. I took another today and the line is still there. We are very cautious, but very excited. :)

[UTChick]

labride~I am so sorry to hear that.

Jenny~How exciting! That is fabulous news!! :D

[Amie]

De-lurking to say CONGRATS to Jennylou!:)

labride - so sorry to hear your news...

[ocgatita]

LABride - So sorry about your chemical pregnancy :(

Jennylou - WOW! CONGRATS!!!! How exciting for you and your husband. Here's a H&H 9 months to you :)

__________________________________________________ ______________

As for me, CD1, AF showed in full glory this morning. The sad part is I was sure this month was it. I cried today and had a little pity party for myself. I got to the Doctor on Tuesday to get CD3 bloodwork done. I am starting to think that maybe we should take a break for awhile from TTC because this has really been rough on both of us :( We'll see how my results come back and then decide.

Hope to see some more BFPs around here soon!


Judy

[gator97]

jennylou!!!! OMG! Cautiously excited for you. That is so exciting! Best wishes to you and thanks for a new thread!

LAbride- so sorry about the chemical pregnancy.

As for me, AF arrived on Thanksgiving Day. I had been expecting her for a few days so it wasn't a shock. But, of course, I was disappointed. I made an appointment for an RE in January--when I get on DH's insurance.

[Lucy Van Pelt]

Jenny - Fabulous news! I will think sticky thoughts for you!!

My update - I induced the m/c Tuesday night. It was horrid. I inserted the pills around 8pm, started cramping about an hour later so I went to bed stupidly thinking I could just sleep my way through the whole thing. I was up at 1am in serious PAIN. I went in and sat in the bathroom for the next THREE hours. I was at my lowest point ever while I sat there. I alternated with crying, moaning from the pain, and praying to God to make the pain stop. Poor DH...he had an early meeting on Wednesday and was up almost the whole night listening to me. Around 4am, I was literally falling asleep on the toilet so I managed to get myself into bed and to sleep. I pretty much slept all day on Wednesday. I just couldn't stay awake to get out of bed.

I am a bit concerned that I am still bleeding a bit. It's been 5 days. With my last m/c, I remember seeing some large clumps of tissue, but I didn't see much with this one which makes me wonder if it's all gone or not. Last time In only bled for maybe two days. If I am still bleeding by Tuesday, I will call my doctor and see what they say.

Emotionally, I am still all over the place. I go from feeling fine and happy one minute to being in tears the next. I went to the Sharks game last night with my girlfriends and had such a fun time and then came home and cried myself to sleep.

Anyway, right now I am just going to focus on our Disney World trip. We leave on Friday! Thanks to everyone for their good wishes!

[Suzlywoozly]

Jenny- Congratulations! That is awesome news:D

Lucy- I am so sorry to hear about your m/c. Take care of yourself. I am so jealous you are going to WDW on Friday! It's the second happiest place on earth;)

Jenny- can you update my stats for me please?
11/05 FET #1-transfered two blasts; waiting for beta on 12/2.

[Alioop12345]

Jennylou- Congrats! I am so excited for you and your DH!

Lucy- I am so sorry....Keeping you in my thoughts and prayers. Hope you are able to enjoy your trip

As for me, I have been on Gonal F and Estradiol and go in today for bloodwork and an U/S to see if we are ready to trigger

[katmg]

Lucy - I'm so sorry about the m/c. I hope you have fun at WDW!

Jenny - AWESOME! Congratulations - and H&H 9 months to you!

judy & gator - Sorry about AF. :( Hopefully next cycle will be better.

DH had his SA this morning. They should have results tomorrow to my doctor. I'll be bugging the doctor tomorrow to see what those results are!

[Nigellas]

Jenny- That is just WONDERFUL news! :D:D:D:D

[mkvh]

Delurking to send a cautious but VERY excited congrats to jennylou...I have followed your story from WC and am thrilled that you had something extra to be thankful for this Thanksgiving weekend!

[MrsSmith]

CONGRATS JENNY!!!!!
I am SUPER happy for you! H&H 9 months!

[bottleored]

jennylou cautious congrats! All the best!

[Hangin'in]

Jenny here's a very cautious and happy congrats to you and DH!

Good looking new thread as well!

I need some *snarky* comeback lines for those nosey people wanting to know the details of TTC issues. The *none of your busines* and *nice* comments aren't effective!

Lucy Sorry to hear your news.

[jennylou]

Thank you ladies for all of the congrats. We are very cautiously optimistic right now. I am praying wholeheartedly for a very sticky baby right now.

I have a call into my OBs office, but par for the course, the nurse still hasn't called me back. It's only been about six hours. I want to check my betas and my progesterone. If you were around during the time of my first pregnancy you may recall that my progesterone was very low and I was on progesterone suppositories until about 10 weeks. I'm getting antsy that the dang nurse hasn't returned my call!

[DallasLady]

Quiet Congrats Jenny! You are definitely in my thoughts and prayers.

Lucy I love WDW, I am so jealous you get to go! Christmas at Disney is fabulous. Have a good time, you deserve it. Use it as a vacation from all the TTC stress, don't think about it once while you are there :D

I am CD 10/11 today. I have my sono on Wednesday. I am on 100mg of clomid this month, but I am not feeling a thing. I felt O cramps every day from CD5-17 on 50mg, this month there is nothing. I am really hoping it is working in there.

We are doing IUI for MFI, but DH's sperm count was very normal at the last IUI (100 mil/mL). If it is normal again this month (and we get a BFN) we are going to go back to timed intercourse.

[suzfuzsunflower]

Congratulations, Jenny! :) I hope that the nurse called back.

I am on CD11. This is my first month on clomid. No side effects at all....I hope that it's working! I'm not feeling very optimistic about it. Just in the waiting game now, I guess. I've been temping. My temp. was around 98-98.3 during the days I took clomid. This morning it was 97.3. Is this a fluke, or does clomid cause your temp. to rise?

[jjsanner]

Hi gals!

Can I join?

Me - Jen (31)
DH - Eric (33)
Married - 4/03
DS - Elijah 2/04
Charting - 10/2004
TTC #2 - 4/2005
Issues - None known, late ovulation, currently on 1st cycle 50mg Clomid w/ Metformin

This is our 7th TTC cycle after a very easy and non-eventful pregnancy with our son. He was conceived on our first try, and now here we are :confused: Hopefully everyone's stay will be short and sweet!

[jesvet]

delurking- CONGRATULATIONS JENNYLOU!!!

[babylove]

Hi girls...

Me - T (27)
DH - K (31)
Married - 8/2003
Charting - 11/2004
TTC - 3/2005
m/c @ 6w4d in 4/2005
Issues - Luteal Phase Defect (low progesterone, late/erratic O, long cycles)
Clomid 50 mg (O on CD17) - 09/2005 BFN
Clomid 50 mg (O on CD 17) - 10/2005 BFN
Clomis 50 mg w/ u/s and b/w monitoring (O on CD 18) - 11/2005 ??

I'm so glad to be joining this thread (well, not really, but you know what I mean). It will be nice to have a place to come where everyone understands what I am experiencing on a daily basis.

***

jennylou ~ Congrats!

[gator97]

Welcome jjsanner and babylove!

[MrsSmith]

Welcome to all the new ladies!

Jenny - Have you heard back from the dr yet? How are you feeling?

[skb]

Welcome to the new ladies.

Congratualtions to Jennylou!!!

Behind on the thread. Spent the past 4-5 days with my in-laws and SIL who is 27 weeks with twins. It was all things baby...shopping, names, sewing, kicking, pictures, ultrasounds..........

Myself.....flying off for an MRI this week to determine if my uterine abnormality is bicornuate or septate. I'm now 16 cycles without any sign of BFP and anticipating a huge delay depending on the MRI results and any needed surgery.

I touched base with my family doc today to discuss my ObGyn's management plan and I'm feeling more reassured...sort of.

Marching onward..........

[julesp313]

I just ordered some OPKs from a website suggested by Jenny - told DH that I think next month, we should go totally scientific with charting and OPKs and really try to pinpoint when that little egg sucker is heading for freedom... And then I managed to depress myself by figuring that even if next month IS our month, we won't be able to announce a pregnancy at Christmas. I seriously need to get my emotions in check or the holidays are going to suck ass. Maybe a cinnamon roll will help... :)

[julesp313]

Um, question? If you are pg, and you get a triphasic chart, when does it go triphasic? The day of implantation or some other day?

[Elenna]

Just checking in. I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving.

Small congrats to Jenny!

I went to the doctor this morning. I've been nauseated and having abdominal pains since last Wednesday. The doc thinks it is just a virus, but took 4 vials of blood. She also suggested I might be pregnant, even though I'm on CD11. I took a pregnancy test and it was BFN, of course. :rolleyes: Now, I'm anxiously awaiting the results of the blood tests. I'm hoping it is just a virus and nothing serious.

[jennylou]

Um, Jules, you NEED to test...I just looked at your chart and :eek: .

[julesp313]

You sound like Jenean! She's been nagging me since I told her to look at my chart too. :) But I'm at work so y'all will just have to wait!

[CTs_Punkin]

I'd like to join...
Me - MMT (33)
DH - CT (36)
Married - 11/2004
Charting - 1/2005
TTC - 1/2005
Off BCP - 11/2004
Issues - HSG results - possible left tube blocked - Seeing RE in Jan
Not ovulating - starting 50mg Clomid Dec 05
bloodwork came back normal
DH to have SA soon


Thanks Ladies!

[wonderousglance]

Jenny- Congrats!! Wow, this is certainly a good day for so many deserving people! :D

Nothing new to report with me. :( AF came and went all within 3 days. :confused: I am on CD 4 today. I was supposed to have the TV US today, but they couldn't get me in. I'll just have to wait until next month. :(

[ocgatita]

Just wanted to give a huge WELCOME to BabyLove & Cts_Punkin and the other newbies (sorry if I missed you but I can only see the last 10 replies ;) ) I hope your stay w/ us is very short!
_______________________________________________

I made an appointment w/ the OB/Gyn (Kaiser) and the earliest appointment is for December 15th. I am wondering what I should bring to the appointment. They said that I will be discussing the infertility issues with them and that then they would refer me to an RE. Should I bring all 18 cycles of my charts? What do they usually ask? Any information on how your appointments went (what you did, what they asked, course of action, etc.)would be greatly appreciated. I am glad we are finally seeking medical intervention as 18 cycles w/o a BFP would indicate something is wrong.

Thanks in advance.

Judy :)

[jennylou]

judy - scooter used kaiser....maybe PM her and she could tell you what to expect?

jules - go out for lunch and pick up an HPT. :p

[Jenean]

Sorry to hijack, ladies, but Jenny, I just had to let you know I'm with you on this one! I've been yelling at Julie all day for not testing this morning and not leaving her office this very minute to go buy some already! She's making me nuts! (nutsier) ;)

[jennylou]

Sorry to hijack, ladies, but Jenny, I just had to let you know I'm with you on this one! I've been yelling at Julie all day for not testing this morning and not leaving her office this very minute to go buy some already! She's making me nuts! (nutsier) ;)

Well, she hasn't replied in a few minutes, so let's hope she's out buying some now.

All updates should be done!

[julesp313]

Jenny and Jenean, you are SO pushy! I love you both, but man, you're pushy!!! I only have... a higher temp than I've ever seen on my 23 charts, incredibly sore boobs, and an interesting never-before-felt stabbing pain for about 10 seconds at 9DPO. So, nothing suggesting I'm pregnant or nothing... ;)

Any HPT rec's that I can get from a non-WalMart store?

[julesp313]

(cross posted with Jenny!) LOL

[jennylou]

Get an answer early!

Now why didn't I take my own advice last night?!

[julesp313]

I got a FRER... and it's totally inconclusive. So I have to take Jenny's advice and take it apart, as soon as I can figure out how to sneak my purse back into the bathroom and do some destruction! :)

[MrsSmith]

jules - I sure hope you come back in here with some good news soon! The suspense is driving me crazy!!!

[Scooter]

delurking

Jules, I can't find a link to your chart and I'm dying here to see it! Please post it! But go buy an HPT first and test test test!! :D (I thought you needed more peer pressure.)

Judy, I know we PM'd about this awhile ago, so let me know if you don't have that PM saved and I can resend it. When I went to the ob (both Kaiser & with a previous ob) , she just wanted to know how long we'd been trying, that I did know when I was ovulating, and that I'd had some of the basic tests run. They wanted me to have a pap and STD screening exam. I did bring my charts, even though it wasn't that necessary, just to show that I'd been on top of things, knew when I ovulated, that we were BDing at the right times, etc. Then the Kaiser ob gave me a referral to the RE and DH & I had to attend the "Infertility Class" before I got to have the intial consult with the RE. At the class they give you lab slips for the FSH & estradial test on cd3 and the progesterone test at 7dpo ("cd21"), and you have to have them done before the RE consult. The problem with that is the timing, so you'll need to schedule that class right away so you don't have to wait an extra cycle in between the class and the consult. The consult is the appt where you lay out all your charts & history & info and come up with a treatment plan. Good luck!

[ocgatita]

Scooter! Thanks for checking in on us. Hope you are doing well w/ your preganancy. I do have the PM you sent me but I forgot I still had that :o I reread it and it answered everything for me! Thanks so much for that. I was hoping that just the OB visit would get us some bloodwork and sperm analysis BEFORE seeing an RE but that obviously isn't how they work. Thanks again Scooter and take care of yourself and your little one :)

Judy

[Scooter]

Thanks, Judy! :D We just had our big u/s yesterday and things are going great so far (except perpetual morning sickness). We're waiting to hear official results from the Dr. And I forgot to say, at the class they also give you a lab slip (and a cup, I think) so DH can get his SA done. That's just how Kaiser does it, so how fast you get in to the RE depends on how fast you get into the ob & the class--and where you are in your cycle.

Back to lurking. Wishing everyone well during the always difficult holiday season, and renewed hope for the new year. :)

[Alioop12345]

WOW! What an exciting thread today!!!

I forgot to updayte yesterday. Had my bloodwork and U/S to see if the Gonal F and Estradiol did it's thing. My lining was still thin at 7.5 and I had 7 immature follies so I continued both drugs and go in again tomorrow at 8. WOW! I hope I can trigger tomorrow. DH is gettin kinda randy! LOL!

Good luck to the testers!

[julesp313]

OK, for Scooter - I THINK this is the link to my chart... (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/344e4). For anyone else waiting for an update - I hope to have one tomorrow morning after I use my six Equates that I have at home and FMU!!!! :D

[CTs_Punkin]

Good Luck Jules!

And Congrats to Jen

As for me, thanks for the warm welcome. DH & I have been trying for 1yr come December.

A little history about me -
I have been off BCP since November 04 -
MY DH & I moved to CO in April (which was coincidentally the last month I've O'd)
I thought that I didn't O because of stress -so tried to not worry too much about it. A move, new job and new house in 3 months is quite a lot to take....
But come September when all was calm & bright - still nothing... and again, still nothing this month. Went to my DR in Oct to get Clomid. She did a battery of blood work (all normal) and I had an HSG earlier this month and I "may" have a blocked left tube (the dye went up the tube, but didn't flow out into my abdomen). My Dr has now recommended I go to an RE.
I want to give it an old college try in DEC just using the Clomid to see what happens, and have the RE appt in January.

DH still needs to have his SA done - but he keeps postponing... I'll need to give him a little nudge pretty soon here.

Thanks again for the warm welcome!

[suzfuzsunflower]

Welcome to everyone new!

Good Luck Jules!

DH still needs to have his SA done - but he keeps postponing... I'll need to give him a little nudge pretty soon here.



I'm there with you, CTs_punkin. I've been trying to get my DH to get his SA done for over a month now. He keeps coming up with reasons to wait.... I'll be glad if we can get it done by early Jan!


julesp313 - Wow, your chart looks good! I'm pulling for you. :) Can't wait to hear the results!

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ME: CD 12. Just sitting waiting to ovulate. Had a good amount of CM while taking clomid, but now it seems to have dried up. I'm hoping that I'll wait a few more days to ovulate. DH is currently taking law exams. He studies most of the day, and isn't really in the mood for BD. His last exam is Monday...that would be CD 18.

Question: I know that stress can prevent you from ovulating...can it still have the same effect even though you've taken clomid? Anyone know?

[knoelani]

Holy crap! I hate having to go out of town for work. HUGE, but still cautious, CONGRATS to Jenny! I am so freakin happy for you. I hope all is well and that you get good news from your dr!

JulesI hope you have good news too!

Welcome to all the new members!

[julesp313]

OK, OK... for all of those who are waiting - I give in. I'm calling it - BFP! :D

After two days of a 98.4 temp and my boobs being outrageously sore, I tested... Got a faint but unmistakable line on an Equate AND an FRER this morning, at 13DPO. Am in shock. Scuse me while I go cry in a corner. :D

[Jenean]

WOOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D

[katmg]

Congratulations Jules!

What a great couple of days in our thread!

As for me...DH turned in his SA on Monday and they said the results would be ready in 24 hours. So I called my doctor's office yesterday and they gave me a whole song and dance about 7-10 days. BS! They just left that as a message for me b/c I missed the call, but I plan on calling back and trying to actually speak to a human.

[Nigellas]

Yeay! Congratulations Jules!

[Alioop12345]

Congrats Jules!!! How wonderful!


Me: I had another U/S this morning. I had one mature follie 19x19 but my lining is still too thin. I also had 3 follies that should be mature in the next day or two so I am not sure what my doc is going to have me do. My lining was 8.0 and he wants it at 9 at the time of trigger. We had agreed that if there was more than 1 mature follie we would not trigger so...guess I'll have to wait another hour to find out.....

[jennylou]

Yay Jules! :) Now get over to the August mommies thread. :)

[Elenna]

Congratulations Jules!!

[Cath]

I signed up and then didn’t come back to the thread. I have some downtime today, so I thought I’d give a little more information to introduce myself.

I do have to say that I’m very happy to not recognize most of the names of the members of the thread and to see that most of the ladies who were posting when I was participating have good news and are expecting. Congratulations Jenny and Jules on your bfp!!!

We started to ttc in November 2003 and began treatment at my RE in April 2004.

In that time, I’ve tried three cycles of clomid – nothing happened on 50mg, ovulated and had an IUI the first cycle on 100 mg, but the second cycle of 100 mg, nothing. So we’ve moved onto injectables. The first cycle on follistim, I responded a little too well and the cycle was cancelled. The next cycle was taken very slowly and I ovulated. Third cycle was a repeat of the first one with too many follicles and a cancelled cycle. The fourth cycle was again slow and I eventually ovulated and had an IUI. This was back in August of this year. The day before my beta, I was offered and accepted a new job. The beta was negative and I decided to take a cycle off to start my new job without any stress from cycling at the RE.

When I was ready to start a new cycle, I was put on provera to induce a period. For some reason, it took longer than usual for AF to arrive. When I went in for day 3 monitoring, I had a small cyst and the beta comes back just over five, which of course meant I was pregnant - a chemical pregnancy. My RE’s office assured me that the provera had nothing to do with it and there was nothing I could have done to prevent it. So here I am, waiting to start another cycle. I could have already started provera to begin a cycle, but with holiday travel and some scheduled business travel, I have to wait until next early next year.

Thank you everyone for your warm welcome and I'm sorry I've written such a long post,

Catherine

[jennylou]

Welcome back, Cath!

Just wanted to drop off this link http://www.constantchatter.com/showthread.php?t=11586 about femara.

[Alioop12345]

I finally talked to my RE...I am supposed to take the Gonal F (150) again today and go back in tomorrow for a repeat U/S and possible trigger. I am a little frustrated. This will be my third appt this week and they are SO NOT flexible when it comes to appt. times. They don't open until 9 and leave at 4...I was offered either a 9, 11:30 or 1 appt. I work in healthcare and go in to work at 6:30....so I took the 11:30...only problem is I work contract and tomorror is my first day at this new building...hope they don't mind my leaving for a bit in the middle of the day...Ah well.

WELCOME CATH!

[chloechloe]

Hi everyone
I am just popping in to say hello, I was a SAI girl over at WC. I am here to drop off BABY DUST to all of you. And I was hoping to give you all encouragement for the holidays. I ttc'd for almost 3 years, and now I have a beautiful 14 month old daughter, she is precious. So I am here to say keep positive.

[UTChick]

Congrats jules!!

Welcome Cath.

Alioop~I know what you mean. I am a teacher, so I just can't leave in the middle of the day to go to an appt. Luckily my new doctor starts seeing patients at 7am so I usually get an appt that early and then just have to drive one exit south to work. It is nice to have a dr. who understands scheduling issues.

Well, I am at home today. I have a sinus infection and got antibiotics last night. I went to work this morning and ran into my principal in the hall. She took one look at me and sent me home - said I didn't have a choice. I am on CD 15 and the earliest I have ever O'ed is CD 19, so I have at least a few more days. That is good because I have not felt like BDing all week. Last night DH was saying that I needed to start feeling better or we are going to miss out this cycle. :) Hopefully I will feel better tomorrow.

[Alioop12345]

Hope you feel better soon Kathy!!!

[julesp313]

Thank you to EVERYONE for the congrats! It still hasn't sunk in and of course when it does, I'll probably move on to worrying about whether or not anything will go wrong - I mean, I have to have something to obsess about, right? Sheesh...

I'm going to "treat" myself to a CBE Digital tonight because I think if DH sees "Pregnant" instead of a faint line, he might be less in denial!

[tigerest]

Jenny - CAUTIOUS CONGRATS! :)

Jules - Yay, congrats….been silently lurking to find out.

Thedoorchick - Sorry about your DH SA.

Cath - Welcome back. Sorry to hear about you having to wait out another cycle and the chemical pg, frustrating. {{HUGS}}

I have an HSG question, did it matter what part in the cycle you had it done. I was hoping to have it right before my next AF, but they told me it must be between CD 7-10. And if I did it on CD 10, is it ok to TTC that cycle(cd 12-14)? The left over fluid they put in doesn’t affect the sperm or eggs?

Just wondering. I have had one before, but I don’t know guess I didn’t think of these before.

Does anyone else notice that people around them sort of dismiss IF after a while? I mean I admit, even I get tried of talking about it all the time. But lately I have noticed when I vent to my best friend, who used to be one of my top supporters who I could always go to about this stuff, sort of just ignores it now. I just don’t feel like I can vent to her anymore. She and my mom always just tell me to be positive. Like when I told them I was not holding my breath that my tubes will be unblocked this next HSG they tell me to think positive and maybe they will. Obviously, I feel like there is some hope, otherwise, why would I be doing this terrible test again, but why cant I just go into it realistically without them thinking I am negative? I don’t know, just wondering if anyone else experiences any of this with their friends or family……

Best wishes to everyone this next month!

[UTChick]

tigerest~I had my HSG on CD 6 (last week). My doctor told me it needed to be done before CD 10. My doctor encouraged us to continue TTC this cycle since sometimes the HSG can be known to "flush out" the tubes. I have heard of a lot of people getting pg on cycles when they had an HSG.

BTW, on your situation with your friend... When you have been TTC for an extended period of time and month after month you get your hopes up, only to be disappointed, there comes a time when (for your own sanity) you change your way of thinking. Whether it is being realistic or "negative," sometimes it is easier not to appear positive because it protects you a little from the disappointment. Until your friend walks in your shoes (not that I wish IF on anyone) she probably won't truly understand what is going on in your head and your heart.


Alioop~Thanks. After spending the day sleeping and being lazy, I am feeling a lot better.

[babylove]

I'm having a really rough night. Out of the blue, while talking to my SIL, I just started to cry...I think it's starting to hit me that if I hadn't miscarried in April, I would be having a baby any day now. And at that time, I consoled myself by telling myself that of course I would be pg by my due date...after all, at the time it was 8 months away! And here I am....not pg. Could this be any more difficult?! :( I had a good cry and my SIL was surprisingly supportive and comforting, so hopefully today's pity party has come to a close...it's just so strange b/c I was feeling totally fine earlier and *boom*...tears. Can I blame the Clomid? :rolleyes:

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tigerest ~ I have definitely noticed that some people are more dismissive (is that a word?!) when it comes to IF. I certainly haven't been going through this for as long as some other people but I have noticed that some of my friends who were gung-ho supporters in the beginning have become more distant when it comes to IF. It's like the no longer have anything to say b/c the whole "Im sure it will happen soon" line just hasn't panned out and they don't want to say the wrong thing. I try not to take it personally...

[chloechloe]

Okay I am sorry I didn't really finish my last post. I was saying to remain positive (which trust me after three years isn't easy). But please let me tell my story. I decided to try accupuncture, Vitex and positive thinking. I visualized the egg maturing, being released etc. And made plans that would include me getting pregnant that month. I REFUSED to think anything else, after three years, you sometimes (at least I did) get into the mindset of *I don't want to get my hopes up again* I erased that....only thinking positive. I really believe this helped, along with the accupuncture and vitex. Take care
everyone

[knoelani]

Jules~ Official congrats to you! I think you deserve to treat yourself to a digital test too!

babylove~ I'm sorry you had such a rough night, take care of yourself.

tiger my dr said that the hsg had to be done in the first part of your cycle in case there was any chance you were pg.

Hi to everyone else, I hope you're having a good day.

[Lucy Van Pelt]

Congrats to Jules! Fabulous news!

Babylove - so sorry about your rough night!

My update - I am still bleeding from my m/c over a week ago. Yesterday I went in for bloodwork and saw the doc today. After taking the m/c pills and having the night from hell last week, my levels have actually INCREASED. UGH! Of course, they are still WAY too low, so the doctor said this means, I might have a tubal or, more likely, I just still have enough placenta and tissue in my uterus to keep producing the hormones. he wanted me to take a different med (can't remember the name) which is almost like a form of chemotherapy that should help get rid of the rest of the tissue, but since I am leaving for vacation in two days, he can't. I would have ot be closely monitored or something like that. He decided to not do anything and just let nature take its course.

Well, after thinking about it for a few hours, I called back and asked about a d&c. He didn't really want to go that drastic, but understood my reasons so I am having a version of a d&c Friday morning. Then I can be nice and drugged up for the drive up to my parents house and then the flight to New York and Florida. I'm not looking forward to the procedure, but I am looking forward to having this overwith.

My mind and body are just exhausted. I am considering taking a break from all of this TTC nonsense to let my poor body heal. It's just too much right now.

[la_bride_2004]

Lucy I just wanted to send some hugs your way.

Suzly Good luck for your beta on Friday- I am sending positive thoughts your way!!

Jennyquiet congrats and sticky vibes

Jules Glad you finally tested! Best of luck to you.

[tigerest]

UTCHick - That is totally what it is. Part of it is me accepting this and just trying to deal with it and another is just not getting my hopes up anymore. Why not be pleasantly surprised rather than disappointed ya know...

babylove - Ya I try to to take things personally, but sometimes it just makes me feel like people are just tired of hearing me talk about it. But like you said they probably just dont know what to say anymore. Sorry about yoru rough night. A good cry is always helpful though. Hope you feel better. {{HUGS}}

Lucy - So sorry. :( Hope things go smoothly for you on Friday and you are able to have a relaxing trip. {{HUGS}}

Thanks for eveyones response about the HSG. I guess I just never realized it before.

[julesp313]

I guess being brand-newly pg means you go to sleep at 7pm but you're wide awake at 5am... :rolleyes:

Had a tiny TINY bit of brown-tinged CM yesterday so of course freaked out, but thankfully my friend in NY calmed me down. Tested yesterday when I got home and got a line on FRER. Tested this AM with Equate, FRER and CBE Digital (can we say obsessed????) - the lines are not much darker but seeing the "Pregnant" on the digital was wonderful. Must take a photo because it only lasts an hour!

Tigerest - on the HSG, I had mine done at CD13 but I had to sign a waiver that if I was pg and MC due to the HSG, I couldn't hold the med center liable. Dr said it's usually done CD7-10 to ensure there's no chance of pg. And although I had a "nothing in the vagina" restriction for 48hrs, dr's definitely encourage BDing that cycle as (like others have said) often the HSG clears things out.

Emily - how silly of the RE! Did he really think you were just there for the fun of it? Honestly, sometimes the tales I hear about medical places just makes me wonder how any of us stay healthy...

Babylove - so sorry to hear you had a rough night. I think - no, I KNOW - it happens to us all at one time or another. Over Thanksgiving, I found out that friends of the ILs family were expecting their second child in May - their first will be 10 months old. So I went and cried in the bathroom at the unfairness of life. Felt good to get it out!

Chloe - my mother is a HUGE believer in thinking positively and visualizing the result you want. I don't know that I'm as good at it as she is, but it certainly can't hurt!

Knoelani - Thank you, and yes, those digital tests ROCK. :)

Lucy - Thank you, and I'm so sorry that you're having a bad time. I hope you have an easy day on Friday (easy physically, if not emotionally) and that things improve for you very soon.

LABride - Thank you!

OK, off to photograph my test collection!

[DallasLady]

but why cant I just go into it realistically without them thinking I am negative? I don’t know, just wondering if anyone else experiences any of this with their friends or family……

Yeah, I am at that point as well. I don't "plan" to be pregnant anymore, and my family now thinks I am not pregnant because I am so negative :rolleyes: I think it's because they just don't know what to say anymore. So "stay positive" is all they can come up with. I casually mentioned that DH and I may never have any children and my MIL damn near broke down in tears about it. I am no fool, I know that there is a good chance we will never have kids. Just "relaxing" and "staying positive" isn't going to help.

[MrsSmith]

Babylove - I'm sorry to hear about the rough day that you had. I'm sure hoping that you feel better now.

Nothing new with me, just checking in.

[marteneym]

Jenny and Jules COngrats on your BFPS!

Lucy I am so sorry this has been so hard. I hope you are able to take a wonderful break and enjoy your vacation.

JJ, BabyLove, and CTS Welcome! Its good to see some familar people but I am sorry you have to join our group. This is a great and supportive group of ladies. I hope none of you are here long.
Cts- My journal is called "When is it our turn?". Looks like we are feeling about the same right now by your siggy.
babylove- Sorry you had a rough night. I am glad someone was there for you.

Elenna Hope you are feeling better.

Hugs to all of you whom AF has found.

Sorry i havent been here in a while. I was away for the hoolidays and in the boring part of my cycle. I will start OPK's this weekend and hopefully an IUI in the next 2weeks.

I am in the same boat as many of you. To many dates have passed when I thouhg I would be pg. I try to be positive, but then i end up being even more devastated when AF shows once again. After 15months of TTC I am getting tired of the pg questions. More and more people are finding out we are trying but only a few know what we are actually dealing with. I just keep hoping it will happen soon. I have a very awesome support system including my mom, grandma, aunt(who dealt with IF, never got pg), best friend, and many others praying for us.
I am so thankful for all of them.

[suzfuzsunflower]

julesp313 - Congratulations!

I wanted to ask a question: What was the latest CD that you ovulated while on clomid? I am on CD 14 on my first clomid cycle. I haven't ovulated yet (which is fine, it's still early), and I don't have any signs that I will ovulate - no CM, temps are very low.

[jennylou]

suz - latest on clomid was CD 21.

Well, I finally got my beta results from Monday. They were a 46. I had a repeat done today. And a rhogham shot. You see I'm AB- and my husband is O+ so our bloodtypes are not compatible. If the baby has a positive bloodtype I can start producing antibodies against it. Anyways, you normally only get one at 28 weeks and after birth (if baby has pos blood type). So, you're probably wondering how I ended up getting one of these. Well, I started spotting last night. Just a bit of red. Freaked out, naturally. Even called the emergency number. Of course, unless I started gushing, they said to take it easy and call the office in the morning. So, I called this morning and Dr K squeezed me into her schedule. I got there just after 9:30 am, and finished up around 12:30 pm. I was hungry, so I went to lunch. Then I went back to the hospital for another HcG draw and the rhogham. Now, we just wait to see what these numbers do. I also have another lab slip for Sunday. As long as I don't start gushing or having any pain, I just have to wait it out. The spotting this morning was just brown and this afternoon is more of a brownish (definitely less than this morning in quantity). So, now we wait.

[babylove]

Thanks girls...it was fleeting sadness....I'm recovered :) Thanks for your support!

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What was the latest CD that you ovulated while on clomid?
CD 18....the first two cycles on clomid (when I took it CD 5-9), I O'd on CD 17. Then when I took the clomid this time, I took it on CD 2-6....I thought that would mean that I would O earlier....but no. Later, just one day, but still.

[knoelani]

Jenny I just wanted to let you know that we're thinking of you and pulling for you! Sending all sorts of good luck vibes your way.

[Nigellas]

Jenny, How scary! Let us know how you are doing, ok?

[jennylou]

Thank you ladies. My spotting has seemed to go away. I got the results of my beta draw from yesterday. It went from 46 on Monday to 241 yesterday. I'm still pretty scared, but pretty excited. :)

[Alioop12345]

YEAH JENNY!!!!!!


I triggered yesterday with two good follies and a uterine lining of 8 so the waiting game begins

[jjsanner]

Can I ask you knowledgeable ladies a question?

I **think** I am 2 DPO on my first Clomid cycle. My chart is completely weird. Back when he prescribed the Clomid, the doc also ordered progesterone suppositories without doing any bloodwork. Should I go ahead and start them or request to go in for a blood draw at 7 DPO? I am so confused! He never really explained why he thought I might need them. Of course I don't want to do anything to jepordize the pregnancy. Thanks in advance.

[katmg]

Those are some great numbers Jenny!! I'll be keeping you in my thoughts!

Lucy - Thinking about you...hope today is as easy as it could be.

Sorry, I'm no help on the other questions...haven't taken my clomid yet.

[CTs_Punkin]

Jennylou congrats on the better numbers & no spotting... hoping this weekend it gets better!

Alioop I am rooting for you... hope this 2ww ends with a BFP!!

Martenym GOOD to see you!! (well, not good that you are still around here) but I haven't seen your around the TTC charting thread, so often look at your chart and see what's going on.

Well I keep wishing my body would cooperate... what the HECK!! I just want AF to come... how many days of spotting do I need to endure before I can just call it CD1 and get on with it.... grrr....

Hope everyone has a good weekend. We're going to the mts to cut down our Xmas tree... (the mts have gotten 20" of snow in the last 2 days... so not sure how "fun" it will be, but we'll see.)

[marteneym]

suz I have o'ed on cd28 and 22 on chlomid.

Jenny Great Numbers!

CTS I was going back and forth between here and the ttc w/ charting thread but dont stop in much there anymore. I feel like this group understands much more what we are dealing with. Thanks for chart stalking.
I hope AF shows soon for you and chlomid does the trick. It seems to have really helped my LONG cycles. I hope it does for you as well.
Have fun cutting down your tree.

[ag05]

Jennylou - Congratulations. I'm sorry you had such a scare earlier.

Jules - Congratulations.

Lucy - I'm so sorry

Labride - I'm so sorry


I know my shoutout list is incomplete. I have been reading along though and silently cheering you all on. I'm not actively ttc at the moment and I think I'm going on a break from the RE until February. I had just written a big post telling what I've been up to and it got deleted. I'm going to add injectibles to my next cycle, I started metformin, and I'm going to start the baby aspirin after IUI next time. I'm also going to get one more blood test for DH and I to see if HLA compatibility is an issue. I doubt it though if most of my other tests were normal. I guess I am not optimistic but I want to give things one more try so I'm thinking 4 more IUIs under the RE and thats it.

[Elenna]

Can I ask you knowledgeable ladies a question?

I **think** I am 2 DPO on my first Clomid cycle. My chart is completely weird. Back when he prescribed the Clomid, the doc also ordered progesterone suppositories without doing any bloodwork. Should I go ahead and start them or request to go in for a blood draw at 7 DPO? I am so confused! He never really explained why he thought I might need them. Of course I don't want to do anything to jepordize the pregnancy. Thanks in advance.

My understanding is the progestrone won't hurt anything even if you take them without really needing them.

Jenny: Those are great numbers! I'm glad the spotting stopped.

I have my first RE appointment this Monday. I was able to find an RE who could get me in much earlier than March.:) I'm nervous about it. One thing that has come of making the RE appointment is that I had to get my records from my GYN to bring to the RE. I looked over them:o , because I was curious, and noticed an entry that says I have a retroverted uterus!:eek: This was never mentioned to me in all my years of going to a GYN (and I've been going once a year for over a decade)!! How could this have never come up? I know it isn't a big deal, but still...

[ag05]

jjsanner - I would start the progesterone anyway. I would ask for the blood draw too. They can also tell by that whether you've ovulated. The only thing though is I don't know if the progesterone suppositories would affect the progesterone blood test though. Sorry!

[babylove]

jjsanner ~ Even if you don't have low progesterone, in some people Clomid causes the thinning of the uterine lining. Obviously, you need a thick lining to sustain a pgcy, so many drs prescribe the progesterone just in case. And as someone before me said, progesterone won't hurt even if you don't need it. Which prog suppositories do you have? Those little glycerin-like bullet-shaped things or Prochieve (comes in an applicator)? I have tried both and like the latter much much better. The first kind leaks out constantly and it's so annoying. The Prochieve stays put for the most part.

ETA: if you are taking prog supplements, the value of a serum progesterone is essentially meaningless except to show that your prog is high enough. If you are on the supps, you have no idea if the prog # is from the supplements or if it's just you. KWIM? But there's no harm in checking!

jenny ~ Congrats! Sorry about the scare but it sounds like everything is a-ok! :)

[la_bride_2004]

jenny Great news about the doubling beta- I'll be sending good thoughts your way.

ag Sending hugs to you. We're basically on hold until Jan/Feb too.

[julesp313]

Well, I have bad news. I think this was a chemical pregnancy. I was spotting brown very slightly yesterday and got a very faint positive on an HPT. Today, I got a stronger positive but I'm bleeding red and my boobs are much less sore. I would say it's not a viable pregnancy.

Despite being obviously upset, I'm still happy that this happened because now we know we CAN get pregnant, which was always in question. Next time, I'm going to insist on a blood test immediately after I find out, just in case I need progesterone or something.

So, trying to stay positive about this...

Can you please update my stats to "Chem pg, 11/05".

ETA: See below post! And now instruct me to stop freaking myself out!!!
And Hold off on any status changes til I get my head out of my ass and find out what's going on!

[Alioop12345]

Jules- I am so sorry...Have you talked with your doc? Wishing there was something I could say or do....

[julesp313]

Apparently I'm panicking earlier than I should be... According to the wonderful ladies on CC, it's not considered a chem pg or an early MC (which apparently is a loss after AF is due) until I'm getting BFNs. Today's BFP is the darkest I've gotten so I'm not sure what's going on. Also, no more bleeding or spotting. I'm trying to find out if I can get a quantitative HCG blood test without a dr's slip to find out what my betas are...

Alioop - thank you for your thoughts, but hopefully I was just getting ahead of myself!

ETA: Jenny - I'm so glad your numbers are good! Makes me smile to hear that... :)

ETA again - just in case anyone was curious, my boobs are killing me again now! Who'd have ever thought PAIN was a good sign?

[babylove]

julesp313 ~ I'm thinking about you...I hope everything is ok and you are able to get a blood test asap. The fact that you are still getting BFPs is a good sign though. I hope it works out!

[suzfuzsunflower]

julesp313 - Hoping for a sticky baby. How are you doing?

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First of all, thank you to everyone who responded with what CD they ovulated while on clomid. This being my first cycle, I have been slightly confused. It's hard figuring out everything when clomid takes away your CM, so thanks. :)

OK girls. I am just so darned excited right now! I know that it may be a little too early to say this, but I think that i may have o'd. I have posted by chart below.

I have recorded CM, but on paper b/c with so little of it I'm not always sure what it is, and I don't want to put it in FF unless I'm sure. For the past two days I *think* that I've had watery, but I'm not quite sure. I check my cervix two days ago and I *think* that it was the softest I've ever felt (but I'm not really sure what "soft" would feel like), and it seemed open (but I'm not really sure how that feels either).

I know that I need a few more temps before I can be a little more confident, but if I did ovulate - that would be HUGE! :D

My Chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/90828)

sorry for the long post...

ETA: the open circle post temps were taken one to two hours later than the closed circle temps

[UTChick]

suzfuzsunflower~Here's hoping you did O! Looking at your chart, you may have. Hopefully those temps will stay up so you can confirm it in a couple of days.

julesp~I hope everything is ok. I agree that it is very good that you are still getting BFPs. Let us know how you are.

jenny~Betas looking good!!


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I finally talked to my nurse on Thursday. My CD3 bloodwork came back normal and I go in on Tuesday for CD 21 bloodwork. If that comes back ok, my doctor wants me to start Clomid next cycle. So here we go!

[knoelani]

Jenny Those are great #'s, sounds like everything is going well. I'm still sending you good luck wishes.

Jules You're cracking me up. I'm sending a whole load of good luck wishes to you too. Hopefully it was just a little bit of spotting and everything is alright.

sunflower That's great that you think you o'd, hopefully you did and you're on to the 2ww.

UTchick That's good news on the CD3 b/w. Did you watch the blowout yesterday? Rosebowl, here we come :)

I think I o'd yesterday, so hopefully I'm in the 2ww too. I don't hold out a whole lot of hope when we're not on a medicated cycle, but I guess you never know. We've just passed the 4 year mark of ttc and I'm feeling pretty discouraged right now. DH and I are having the big talk about what we're going to do going forward. I think starting next month we're going to do a few more IUI cycles and then call it quits, but we haven't come to a decision yet.

Hope everyone is having a good weekend!

[DallasLady]

I know, I suck, I'm hardly ever around to post.

I had my second IUI Friday. I had two follicles on Wednesday, one at 19.5mm and one at 17.5mm. We triggered that night which I thought was early, but I was trusting the doctor. I went in for a sono on Saturday to confirm that I'd O'd, and I had, but only the 19.5 follie. I was bummed about that. If we'd waited one more day to trigger, I bet the other would have gone as well.

But thankfully DH's sperm count was normal for the second month in a row! He had 34 mil/mL! He has been eating better, exercising, and making sure not to go more tha a few days between ejaculations. So, if we don't get pg this cycle, I think we are going to hold off on the IUIs for awhile and go back to timed intercourse.

I also found out that my estrogen is low, which explains why my cycles were getting longer (until I got on clomid). I think the fact that I have been majorly stressed out at work and have gained weight has contributed to that.

[julesp313]

Bsbylove - thanks for the thoughts!

Suzfuz - definitely thinking sticky thoughts over here! I'm doing well, thank you... :)

UTChick - things are good... I think!

Knoelani - I crack myself up, I think that's how I deal with stress! My DH says I shouldn't be so funny about serious things but hell, better to laugh than to cry!

DallasLady - glad to hear you had good news about your DH's sperm count. That always helps - and fingers crossed that the IUI is a successful one!

As for me... I stayed offline yesterday as I'm reading too much and freaking myself out. Yesterday's HPT was incredibly faint but there was no more red spotting, only a little brown when I wiped sometimes. Today, I temped at 98.5 and the Equate I just took (the one with the plus sign) is BLARINGLY positive - in fact, the test line is nearly as dark as the control line, which makes it the MOST positive one I've had so far! Of course, at 18DPO, it bloody well should be glowing in the dark! :D

Still going to see if I can get a quant. HcG but if not, I won't freak out - I'm staying positive and knowing that spotting does not mean doom and things are going just perfectly for this stage of the pg.

And now I have to go to a client 80 miles away that has no Internet access... oh, the humanity! ;)

[jennylou]

Just got my third (and hopefully, final) beta numbers back. From Sunday they were 595. All is doubling in the 48-72 hour time frame. :)

Anyone interested in taking over this thread?

[DaniML]

Hi Ladies!

I'd like to join your little group!

DaniML
Me: Daniela - 29
DH: Ross - 36
TTC: 06/04
11/04: Cervical Ectopic (2 shots of methotrexate to terminate)
TTC again: 01/05
11/05: Dx: Borderline diabetis (weight related) & PCOS, Metformin (850 mg twice a day, but changing to 500 mg twice, and then later 3 times, a day because they are making me sick)


I was really relieved when my doc finally figured out what was wrong with me. I had been to several doc over the past 3 years or so and never got a clear answer. I switched to this doc after I got pregnant last year. We started TTC again in January of this year and when I still had not gotten pregnant by October I went back to my doc and finally got a diagnosis. Not that I'm glad to deal with this, just that now that I finally know what it is we can work on "fixing" it.

Congrats Jenny!

[katmg]

Dani - Welcome! I know I was so happy when I saw my dr. and we had a plan as to how to move forward.

Jenny - So glad that the number keep doubling!

Jules - YAY for not spotting anymore and dark HPT!

Dallas - That's great about DH's numbers! Here's hoping this is your cycle!

knoelani - I watched the UT game! Can't wait for that Rose Bowl now!! Hook 'em Horns! I'm sorry you're feeling so discouraged right now. It's so hard to stay positive on this journey.

UT - Glad that CD3 bloodwork came back okay!

[knoelani]

katmg~ Not to hijack the thread and turn it into one on football...but isn't it awesome! Big 12 champs and now the Rosebowl. We are actually postponing our small little holiday ski trip get-away until Jan 5th :)

[suzfuzsunflower]

I hope that everyone is doing well! :)

DaniML - welcome!

knoelani - good luck to you in the 2ww.

UTChick - I'm glad that your bloodwork for CD3 was good, and hopefully your bloodwork taken tomorrow (Tuesday) will be good too.

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Today when I entered my temp in ff I got red cross-hair lines! I have never seen those before on my own chart! :D Maybe I actually o'd! :)

Good night!

[babylove]

Ladies....I got a BFP this morning!! It's 11DPO so it's waaaay to early to get over-the-top excited (who am I kidding?!), especially considering what happened last time (m/c). But I just thought I would share the news. :D :D

[jennylou]

babylove - woohoo! :) Can't wait to see you over in the August thread.

This place is on fire!!! Who's next?

[suzfuzsunflower]

Yay! Congratulations, babylove! :D

[wonderousglance]

This place is on fire!!! Who's next?

Not me. :( We've been ttc for almost 5 years. It'd be a miracle if I got pregnant on my own. Well that's what the RE said yesterday when we went in to go over all of the "normal" test results. :(

[julesp313]

Hey... there's no talking about football in here! ;) Actually, I shouldn't admit this but I just had to look up where my team is playing their bowl game - and I went to Notre Dame! I should be a football junkie, right? Yeah, but I'm English so I think that counts against me sufficiently!

Babylove - congrats! My, my, this is turning out to be an excellent couple of weeks for this thread! :D

Dani - welcome! I hope your stay here is short and sweet - the ladies here are wonderful!

Suzfuz - Yay for cross hairs! Funnily enough, getting those suckers was the one part of TTC I had no problem with, which made it more frustrating that I couldn't turn that "like clockwork" Oing into a BFP!

Doorchick - I heard Clomid makes you cranky - sorry you had to deal with that... I hope your DH understands, though, that it's not him (well, not entirely him!). I hope you get good news from your appointment this weekend and the IUI goes ahead on schedule.

Wondrous - did your RE say what might be going on, if you're having normal test results but not getting pg? It's very frustrating for everything to be "normal" but not getting pg - that's what we went through, but not for as long as you guys have. Hoping you get some good answers soon...

Me - freezing my butt off! Who knew Vegas got so darn cold? 30 overnight... now that's just WRONG! And I'm waking up without the alarm at 5am without fail. And that's wrong too! But it's OK... that justifies me going to bed at 8pm then... ;)

[julesp313]

I just noticed my stats are "old"... Jenny, can you please update me (I'll try not to change my mind again!)

Take out "Chem pg" and "IUI planned April 2006" and add me to the August 2006 expecting list (my EDD is August 11).

WOO HOO!!!! Thank you, thank you!

[CTs_Punkin]

Congrats Babylove!! Very excited for you... sticky vibes going your way!

Jules Glad to see things are better & that you are graduating!

As for me, I am starting my first round of Clomid tomorrow... need to call the Drs to find out if they want me to come in for U/S to monitor my progress.. I'm headed out of town so not sure when they generally do it.
For those of you who have been monitored while taking Clomid - what CD do they normally like to have you come in for an U/S?

Jenny - PM me if you still need a new Threadmistress, I'd be happy to do it.

Have a good day!
MMT

[knoelani]

babylove~ congrats to you! I hope you have a healthy and happy 9 months!

sunflower~ that's great that you got the crosshairs, isn't it purty?

wounderousglance~ I'm sorry that your RE didn't give you a lot of hope. Did they give any indication of what might be going on? Take care of yourself sweetie.

jules~ ok, ok, I'll stop the football talk :) Your due date is my birthday, a very good day!

[babylove]

Thank you so much ladies!! If it's ok, I'm going to lurk over here for a bit longer, just until I get some good betas.

jenny ~ So excited to be an August momma with you!

wonderousglance ~ I'm so sorry that you are going through this. What is your plan with your RE since the results are normal?

julesp313 ~ Another August momma--yay!

CTs_punkin ~ This cycle I took Clomid on CD 2-6. My first u/s was on CD 9. Then I had one on CD12, CD15, CD17, CD 18. They told me I was in the process of O'ing on CD 18, so I didn't have to go back again. Good luck w/ Clomid!

[katmg]

Yay Babylove!! So excited for you! H & H 9 months!

[DaniML]

Thanks for the warm welcome!

Congrats and H & H 9 months to all the ladies who got a BFP! That gives me hope!

I'm just hoping I O'd this month. Even if we didn't get pregnant, I just want to know that the Metformin is helping my body do what it's suppose to do. It's very frustrating when I used to have perfect 32 day cycles every stinking month for years. Then suddenly it all changed and I really don't quite understand how. The bad part is that for a long time I didn't even want a baby. I have a 9 year old and was just 110% sure I'd never want another one. Enter DH.... and now that I want another one I can't seem to get pregnant.

[SAI Ladies]

Updated to here!

Babylove I graduated you to expecting mommies for August - hope you don't mind!! :)

I would like to thank Jennylou for being such a great Threadmistress... I can only hope to fill your big shoes :D

Cts_Punkin is the new Threadmistress

I'll do my best to get the thread updated as often as possible. I will be headed out of town next week, so it may be a little slow, but will get done!!

Thanks!

[Elenna]

Congratulations Babylove! I hope you have a happy and healthy nine months.

Welcome Dani!

Thanks CTs_Punkin for becoming our new threadmistress.:)

I had my first RE appointment yesterday. The RE wants me to have an HSG next cycle. I'm a bit nervous about that.

Also, she gave me an exam and said my uterus is not retroverted. She doesn't know why that is on my records. DH was a bit embarrassed. He was in the room during the exam. He just buried his face in a book and tried to ignore what was going on.:o

[julesp313]

Knoelani - college football is always a source of amusement in our family as I went to ND, FIL and BIL went to UCLA, and DH's uncle and cousin went to USC. Needless to say, there's a lot of bantering and heckling going on during games! I only watch ND when they play teams I like to talk smack about (USC and BYU, as I work with a ton of BYU grads).

Elenna - aren't men funny? When I took DH with me for a consult about getting an HSG done, I didn't realize it would involve a pelvic exam. Afterwards, DH said "If I'd known another man was going to be up to his elbows inside you, I'd have left the room!". I told him he better get used to that and a whole lot more if he plans on being part of this whole pregancy thing! ;)

[babylove]

Fine with me! Thanks again ladies!!

[MrsSmith]

Congrats Babylove!!!

[babylove]

Thanks! :)

[CTs_Punkin]

Well, I started Clomid this morning... so far so good... (It was only a couple hours ago that I took it, so not expecting too much)

Called the DR and have a U/S scheduled for CD13 - next Thursday - to see if it worked. We shall see... keeping my fingers crossed.

I also have an RE appt for January 12th to discuss the HSG results (left tube possibly blocked) - so just have to sit and wait. I'm secretly hoping that this month will be "our" month and that I can cancel the RE visit :)

Need to have a chat w/ the Hubbie about BD this month. I usually don't tell him "when" i'm fertile, but I think this month I'm going to do the "lets plan this out" and hopefully we'll catch the egg (if there is one).

[marteneym]

Welome Dani!
Congrats Babylove. Sending you ***STICKY VIBES***

CTS- Thanks for taking on the trheadmistress duties. Good luck with the chlomid. Is has done wonders with my O date. I hope it does for you also.

Still waiting to O.

[polkadot]

Me - Lauren 26
DH - Brian 27
Married - 11/20/2004
Charting - 5/2005
TTC - 5/2005
Off BCP - 5/2005
Issues - impatient-ness trying for 8 months
1st TTC issues Dr. apt Dec. 19th

hi ladies....i cant believe that i am in this situation but i am glad to have some familiar faces from the TTC thread, to help me through all of this....

and babylove- i never post in your journal...but i am always watching for announcements from you ...

CONGRATS!!! H&H 9 MONTHS TO YOU!!!

[kemorr]

First off, congrats to jules and babylove on their BFPs.

An update on me...

I started my final cycle of IUIs about 12 days ago, took Gonal-F at 112.5 units once a day for 8 days. Triggered on Monday and had back to back IUIs on Tuesday and Wednesday mornings. To be perfectly honest, I am just thinking of this cycle as "something to do before we start IVF", as it will be my 6th IUI, 4th with Gonal F. Therefore I have zero confidence that it will work. I did have some decent follicles, 3 I think above 17 on the day of the trigger, but I don't really take much notice of any of that anymore. Afterall, the result has always been the same, regardless of the number of follies, my hormone levels, my DHs sperm count etc.

So, looking forward to 2006 - the year of IVF. Gosh I hope 2006 is better than 2005 was (for baby making). I just want to put 2005 well behind me. I'm done with it!

[Alioop12345]

kemorr- Keeping my fingers crossed for you. DId you have bad stomach pain with the Gonal F? How big does your RE like the follicles to be before trigger? Mine won't trigger unless they are 19x19 and wants to see the uterine lining at 9mm.

[babylove]

Thanks polkadot!! :) I don't have a CC journal, but I do have a LJ, so if you want me to friend you, I am happy to do so if you have a username over there. Just send me a PM! Good luck to you!

[katmg]

Hi polkadot! I'm sorry you have to join over here too. We joined the TTC thread at the same time and now I see you signing up here - I just joined a few weeks ago. Hope some of these latest BFPs we've had over here rub off on you!

I think that I should O either today or tomorrow. Naturally DH is out of town and won't be back until late tomorrow. :rolleyes: I knew this was going to happen so I pretty much wrote this cycle off anyway. I am STILL waiting on SA results from my doctor. The lab said they should have them within 24 hours and then my doctor would notify me from there. DH went and did that SA a week ago MONDAY. Grrrr. I keep calling and calling the office and I'm getting nothing. So annoyed at this point.

[papergirl]

Me – 29 (for 12 more days)
DH - 33
Married – 8.31.03
Charting – 1.05
TTC – 4.05
Off BCP - years
Issues - impatient-ness trying for 7 months
m/c in June 05 @ 8wks

Add me to the group of woman who never really thought they would end up here. However, now that I am I can’t express how delighted I am to have others in my shoes.

Initially I was one of the ladies I now avoid – you know, the ones who get pregnant right out of the gates. That ended in a m/c and now 6 months later we are still TTC. All in all we have been TTC for 7 months. I really thought it would happen by end of year but it seems that is not our fait. At this point I just feel really empty and overwhelmed at the thought of researching and learning about our next steps. Ideally I would like DH to get a Semen Analysis before the end of the year but I really don’t know how to start that process. I guess I need to see my OBGYN but ideally I would like to avoid taking time off work for yet another doctors appointment this year. That alone makes me want to wait until next year but then I dread the thought of putting it off.

Any advice on starting the process would be great.

Rebecca

[skb]

Welcome to the newbies.

Congratulations to all the gals with BFPs!!!

As for me......... Still waiting for my MRI results. They were supposed to be faxed to my doctors yesterday. I guess I will have to wait until my appointment next week! Feeling a bit impatient!

bumble My theory regarding matters of fertility/infertility is to be persistant and proactive. It's encouraging that you have been able to achieve pregnancy. It won't hurt to consult you ObGyn soon.

[polkadot]

thanks for the warm welcome girls....:D

[katmg]

Well, I'm pretty sure I O'd yesterday or Tuesday. Where was DH? 6 hours away from me. :rolleyes: This cycle will definitely be a bust as there was zero action going on for me during the past 8 days. :( Oh well, I knew that going into this cycle. Glad this wasn't supposed to be our first clomid cycle. Now I just have to wait 2 weeks to get started on the next one!

[polkadot]

big huge temp drop this morning....i thought i was prepared....uhmmmm not...this is making me so sad.....these next two days cannot go by quick enough....:rolleyes:

[julesp313]

Welcome to the new members! Hoping your stay is short and sweet - you'll learn a lot from these ladies and everyone is very, very helpful and supportive, particularly during those very rough times we all face...

I'm not ready to leave this thread just yet so I'm staying as a cheerleader, if I may. I like to keep up with how everyone's doing... and cheer for more BFPs! :)

[Thea]

Me=Thea 29
DH = Craig, 36
TTC since July 2004
Off BCP May 2004
HSG left tube blocked, tubal cath opened tube
Clomid challenge test, other bloodwork normal
SA (X3) low normal morphology %, very high sperm count
Will begin with 3-4 cycles IUI in January 06 then reevaluate

Hi Ladies. Been reading up, trying to decide if I should join, because I am generally bad at getting on the computer and posting. However, or next steps (IUI maybe IVF) make me nervous and I have tons of questions and we haven't even started yet, so I figured I needed a place to be. Right now I am in a holding pattern waiting to see a new RE on 12/20 to discuss IUI options and maybe get us set up for the next cycle. I have not charted, temped or anything for a few months due to general discoragement, but I am actually at CD 34 right now when I am almost always a CD28 girl. I don't think its possible at all, but hate that I have this wonder in the back of my head. Anyway, glad to be hear and I thank you in advance for the support.

[SAI Ladies]

WELCOME Thea, Bumble & Polkadot!!

Hoping your stay here is short and oh so sweet....

[CTs_Punkin]

Well so far so good... I'm on day 2 of Clomid & no real S/E at the moment... although I bet I just jinxed myself... :o

Welcome Polkadot, Bumble & Thea... hope your stay is short & sweet.

[marteneym]

Welcome Thea, polkadot, and Bumble.

I had EWCM YESTERDAY! LOTS OF IT! Could O finally be coming? I started ew at cd16 last cycle also and got a +OPK cd20. Today is cd17. Hopefully any day now. Come on O! I am ready to get this 2ww started with an IUI.

[CTs_Punkin]

I hope this is it for you MarteneyM!!! Hope you catch the eggy this time around!!

[UTChick]

Whoa! I have missed a lot. First of all, congrats on all the BFPs!! :D Welcome to the new members. :)

Also, thanks for all the well wishes on my bloodwork. I should hear something next week. Monday night I kind of had...not really a breakdown...I don't know what to call it. I was thinking about not starting Clomid until the next cycle (January) just to give myself a break. Part of me is scared it won't work and how would I deal with that? Then, part of me is scared it will work. For the first time in a long time, I was scared of getting pg. I felt really anxious about the permanancy of having a child. Like it is something we have been trying for and wanting for so long and what will happen when it actually happens? It was really strange. So when I went in on Tuesday morning for bloodwork, I told them that I may want to put off Clomid for a month and just take a breather. My doctor and nurse both said they understood and that I still have time to think about it before my next cycle starts. Of course DH doesn't want to wait, but he also doesn't want to force me if I am not ready. It is really strange...scared of not getting pg and scared of getting pg at the same time. Has anyone else felt this way or am I just losing my mind?

[katmg]

It is really strange...scared of not getting pg and scared of getting pg at the same time. Has anyone else felt this way or am I just losing my mind?

I've definitely felt that way. Those fleeting thoughts of...am I really ready for this? It would be so much easier if you just...whoops! wound up pregnant. But I don't think any 'whoops' babies are in my future. :(

I finally got DH's SA results. I don't have exact figures but we're being sent the results. It sounds like from what the nurse said that there's a problem with the morphology but not the motility. :confused: I'm not exactly sure but she recommended that DH go see a urologist. I'm tearing up right now writing this just like I was tearing up when she told me. It's so hard trying to hold it together at work. I wish there was someone here that I could confide in but I'm just not that close to any of my work friends. I asked her about going on the clomid at the start of my next cycle, but she recommended that I wait until we talk to the urologist. I feel so...defeated. I thought surely the problem was me and would be easily fixed by clomid. I'm dreading going home and telling DH. I just know what a blow this will be for him and I'm not looking forward to that conversation. Why does this have to be so hard???

Sorry to be such a downer...I'm just having a rough day. Don't worry about updating my stats until I have the actual results.

[UTChick]

katmg~I am sorry that the SA results were not what you expected. Hopefully you will get some more details soon and get some answers from the urologist. In the meantime, we are here for you. Oh, and thanks for answering my question. I am glad I am not the only one who feels this way.

[polkadot]

Kathy-
It is really strange...scared of not getting pg and scared of getting pg at the same time. Has anyone else felt this way or am I just losing my mind?

i feel this way all of the time....and then think....does anyone else think like this...but now we know;)

well...temp drop this morning...BFN this evening and still no AF....i wish she'd just hurry up and show so i can get it all over with and start again....:rolleyes:

[Thea]

Thanks for the welcome everyone.

UTChick I definetely have those moments myself and I think I must be crazy when I do. You are not alone.

katmg I am so sorry to hear about your SA results. I remember when we got ours how defeated I felt and that I had hoped it was something with me all along. I hope your conversation with DH goes OK. Here's a <<hug>>.

Well, CD1 for me, but I'm not counting this month. I won't see the RE to set up IUI and meds until the 20th so this month is out anyway. I stupidly bought a test this afternoon as AF was 6 days late, and then this evening right in the middle of my 8 year old foster son's temper tantrum about dinner, there was AF. Oh, what a great evening. I think I am off to bed and my heated blanket. Have a good day everyone!

[polkadot]

oh thea...that sucks...but at least you still have a positive outlook....;)

[DaniML]

UTChick... I think we all feel like that sometimes. I have a 9 year old (total oops baby) and sometimes it scares the crap out of me to start all over and I wonder if I'm really ready for that. Just know that you're not alone!

katmg... I'm so sorry to hear about the results. It must be so difficult for you to have to be the one to tell him. Hope the conversation went o.k.

polkadot... Don't you just hate this waiting! When you know the cycle is a bust you just want to get it over with and start over! Hope AF shows soon.

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Sometimes, if I feel like the cycle is a bust I don't even want to have sex with DH, like it's a wasted effort. You know, why have sex if I won't get pregnant anyway. I think this is stems from timed BD. I think I just need to take a month off. Trying to get prenant is taking all the fun and intimacy out of sex and I don't want that!

[polkadot]

she showed this morning....Happy Friday to me! :( :mad: :rolleyes:

[kemorr]

Ali, the Gonal-F doesn't really hurt. I think in the four cycles I have used it (a total of 36 injections of Gonal-F), there have been 3 or 4 times when it has really stung when I injected it. I think those times are related to me accidently hitting a blood vessel, as they are also the only times that I have bruised from the shots. Of course it happened twice this last cycle and now I have 2 huge bruises on my belly, just in time for my trip to Hawaii for Christmas! Oh well....

As far as when my RE triggers, I think there is a lot of variation between REs. I think I had 1 at 20 this cycle, but as I said, I don't really listen to the follie sizes anymore, after a few cycles you get jaded with the numbers. I've learnt that no matter how good or bad my follies are, how good or bad my lining is, how high or low my progesterone is - for me it hasn't altered the outcome. But, I think my RE will trigger at 17 with a lining at 8. The fiollies do continue to grow in size after the trigger shot. My RE places more importance on my estrogen level in relation to the size of the follies, vs the size of the follies alone.

[knoelani]

katmg~ When we first had dh SA done by my regular dr, she told me that the results were bad, that dh needed to see a urologist right away and that there was nothing more she could do for us based upon his results and refered us to a clinic. Both the urologist and the RE at the clinic disagreed with that. Now his results aren't always the greatest, but they're usually good enough for us to actually be able to go forward with IUI's and have the potential of concieving. So I guess what I'm trying to say is that as bad as this seems right now, it may not be the end result. Have dh go to the urologist and see what they have to say before you get too discouraged, the dr may be wrong in their analysis. I hope this turns out ok for you guys, I hope it wasn't too difficult to share the news with your dh, and I hope you're feeling better.

UTchick You're not alone, I think we've all probably had these thoughts.

Welcome to all the news girls, I hope that you find this a good supportive place to be.

thea & polkadot~ sorry AF showed!

Nothing really to report on my end, 6dpo, feel nothing either way.

[polkadot]

thanks girls...;)

well i have pink eye :rolleyes: and have a dr appt to get some drops at 1:30 so i am thinking of talking to the dr then about the TTC stuff since i'll already be there and today is cycle day 1 so maybe we could start bloodwork soon....like this cycle...since i know a lot of people say you need cycle day 3 bloodwork....
we'll see...i'll keep you all posted...

[UTChick]

Thanks everyone for easing my mind. When I told DH how I was feeling, he looked like this - :eek: - he doesn't really "get" my contradicting feelings. We (women) are such complex human beings! ;)

Thea and polkadot~Sorry that AF showed.

thedoorchick~Here's hoping you can go ahead with the IUI on Monday!

[katmg]

Thanks, Kathy, Thea, Dani, Knoelani, and thedoorchick for all your kind words. I had a good cry on the way home from work and was feeling much better by the time I got home. DH took the news remarkably well and called and made an appt. for Monday with the recommended urologist. We also found out that his insurance will pay for all diagnosis and treatment! Yay for that! I'm sure that we'll have more answers Monday night of where we go from here and what his actual counts were. I appreciate all your support.

Knoelani - I'll be interested to see what the urologist thinks of his results. That's so strange that your regular doctor wouldn't think she could do anything for you but the specialists didn't. Guess that's why they're specialists, eh?

thedoorchick - I really want to get DH's actual numbers because right now I'm just guessing based off of her talking about the results kind of abstractly. I'm glad to know that the morph being bad doesn't automatically have us move straight to IVF. Hope things go well for you at the RE!

Sorry for all who had AF show up. :(

[polkadot]

ok ladies ...well i had an appt with my dr today for an eye infection and i brought my charts with me and she took a look and she says that my charts are beautiful, and i am ovulating which i was pretty sure of, she wants us to give it 3 more months and see what happens...so...its not what i wanted to hear b/c i really wanted to start bloodwork but...she said the 1st thing we would do was check DH, meaning SA....ok so my question is....DH and I have to different insurances....who pays for what? We go to different dr.s and different hospitals....

i am going to try and not freak out and just think positive that it will happen soon....:rolleyes:

[suzfuzsunflower]

I am really feeling low this morning. This is my first cycle on clomid, 50 mg. It is CD 23, I have not ovulated and I don't that I'm going to. I think that it's going to be another long cycle. :( I was so excited to try clomid, have felt so hopeful this cycle, and I have naively thought that I would have a bfp by Christmas. I know that this probably all sounds stupid... When we started to TTC earlier this year, I did not think it would take this long. I really thought that we would be pregnant by the end of this year.

I know that I need to be realistic - this cycle isn't over yet, and even if I don't o on this cycle, there are higher dosages of clomid and hopefully that will work. And if I do o, I shouldn't except to get pregnant our first try with clomid.

This is just hard, and I'm just so sad this morning. :( Thanks for listening.

[julesp313]

Polkadot - have your DH check his insurance to see if it covers SA. If it does, your dr should be able to give him a lab slip for a lab that is covered by his insurance or DH may have to go to his dr and get a lab slip written by him (not sure how your insurance works). If it doesn't, your DH can go to whatever lab your dr uses. My DH's insurance didn't cover it so he just went to the lab attached to my dr's office. Hope that makes sense!

Suzfuz - sorry to hear that you're having a rough time. A friend of mine is going through a similar thing with her first round of Clomid - waiting to O and so far, it hasn't happened. I'm guessing for some women, 50mg just isn't enough to ripen the egg sufficiently to make it pop out... I don't know much about Clomid, but I'm sending hugs and good thoughts your way... :)

[MrsSmith]

wonderous - I know exactly how you feel. I was really convinced that one cycle of CLomid would be all I needed. It was very disturburing to get a BFN after that cycle. That was a few months ago and I'm still not preggo. I kept telling myself that I just needed a little something extra to get me preggo. Now, I've got to admit to myself that it might take more than a little effort and that can be hard to do. I hope you feel better about it all soon.

[polkadot]

thanks jules....i will have to check out his insurance....another question...while at CVS yesterday looking for more OPK's...i saw an at home male fertility kit. It is supposed to be like a SA, sort of....i was just wondering if anyone has used one of these before....DH is really nervous about possibly having to do the SA...men:rolleyes: just wondering if anyone had any experience with them thanks!!

[gator97]

It feels like this month was particularly stressful for TTC. I feel so much pressure if I can't figure out what my CM is or if we miss a night of BD. It's ridiculous. DH and I both had a bit of a breakdown the other evening. It was good to talk and find out what he was feeling. I try so hard to have the attitude of whatever will be will be, but I'm not that good at it.

We have an RE appt at the beginning of January. I'm a bit nervous as to what he will say but also excited to have another opinion.

[katmg]

thedoorchick - Thanks for those links - I'll be checking out those other websites. I'm sorry about the vag. prog - that can't be too much fun.

suz - I'm so sorry that this cycle has you down. :( It's hard to stay positive when those positive thoughts keep getting beat down.

polkadot - We used my doctor's recommendation for the SA and didn't even think about his insurance. Now we're going to have to go back and see if they'll pay for any of it. :rolleyes:

[knoelani]

gator& sunflower I'm sorry you are both having such a difficult time. The emotions that we go through take a toll on all areas of your life. Be good to yourselfs and allow yourself to feel everything you're feeling without any guilt.

katmg Let me find dh's actual numbers and I'll pm you what the urologist had to say about it. Also, I don't know what part of town you're in, but I can give you the urologist info too.

thedoorchick good luck on tuesday! I'll be pulling for you.

I'm 8 dpo here and other than massive moodiness, like wanting to cry this morning because dh overcooked my egg, nothing much is going on. This may be the worst pms I've had in a long time. Hopefully the poor guy will survive!

[katmg]

knoelani - Thanks! That would be great!

I thought I posted this, we got DH's test results in the mail yesterday and Friday we were able to make an appt. with the urologist for Monday afternoon. I was happy we were able to get in so soon! I'll have to find DH's actual numbers so that I can look at them again. The morphology was the main problem but the count itself was also pretty low. Motility seemed okay.

[UTChick]

thedoorchick~ Good luck on Tuesday!

katmg~ Hope things go well at the urologist's tomorrow. Let us know what he says. Hopefully it will be something good.

gator97~I'm sorry things have been hard, but it is good that you and your DH were able to talk about it.

Ok...I have a funny and very embarassing story. I have taken the month off from temping and doing OPKs because I just needed a break from it. I am on CD 26 today and last night I was wondering if I had O'ed yet. So I set my alarm on my cellphone so that I could temp at my usual temping time (5:30am). I was so out of it this morning when my alarm went off that I was punching buttons on my cellphone and trying to take my temp with it! :eek: And the sad part is that I couldn't figure out how to use my "thermometer" and DH had to call my attention to it! He was just laughing and asking me what the heck I was doing. I was obviously not quite awake. Needless to say, I didn't take my temp since I couldn't figure it out! :rolleyes:

[knoelani]

Good luck this afternoon, katmg. Hopefully he'll have some good news for you. Let me know if you still want the info after your appointment.

[UTChick]

I got a call today from my doctor's office. My b/w confirmed that I am not Oing consistently. So, I just have to call them on CD1 and I'll go in to get the Clomid rx and get info on when I am taking it, etc. DH finally set his appt. for his SA on Wednesday because I called to tell him that we are now waiting on him before we can start the Clomid. So I guess I can update my info:
Known issues: irregular ovulation
HSG normal
Starting Clomid 12/05

[jjsanner]

AF showed up this morning and I am not taking it well AT ALL.

That being said, can I ask everyone's opinion on the following:

DS is 22 months old. I just finished my 7th TTC #2 cycle, 1st cycle on Clomid. My ObGyn perscribed the Clomid at my last annual exam after he took a look at my charts. He was concerned about my long, irregular cycles and said that I am ovulating too late (anywhere from CD 20 to CD 35) for the fertilized egg to have a chance to implant (with which I disagree as my son was conceived on CD 41). He did not offer any sort of monitoring or recommend any other testing. He simply told me to fax my chart to him at the end of each cycle. I have an infertility consult set up with him for mid-Feb., at which time I assume we will get on with the testing.

I guess I want to address potential problems sooner rather than later, so I have independently set up an appointment with an RE for the 1st week in Jan. They have said they will do all of the testing upfront and then we will meet with the RE to go over the results.

Am I being overly aggressive here? Should I just wait until Feb. and meet with the ObGyn? He's a really great guy, but I guess I am a little concerned that:

1) he would prescribe Clomid without any other thought, and
2) he is so easily diagnosing my late ovulation as the problem.

Any thoughts on this matter would be greatly appreciated!

[polkadot]

oh so sorry for AF showing up...she really sucks...:(

i usually O between day 18-20 and my dr. looked at my charts and said they looked fine. I wonder why your doc thinks its too late for implant to take place....i thought as long as your LP was longer than 10 days it was ok....am i wrong...anyone can answer if they have info....thanks:D

[polkadot]

oh so sorry for AF showing up...she really sucks...:(

i usually O between day 18-20 and my dr. looked at my charts and said they looked fine. I wonder why your doc thinks its too late for implant to take place....i thought as long as your LP was longer than 10 days it was ok....am i wrong...anyone can answer if they have info....thanks:D

[jjsanner]

Polkadot, I think he meant that by day 30 or so the lining is getting ready to shed and is not great quality. I guess I need to do more research on this. However, I know that there are tons of pregnancy charts on fertilityfriend.com where a late O has resulted in a viable prenancy. And my own son was conceived on something like day 41, so it is possible.

[katmg]

Well, DH went to the urologist this afternoon. He didn't have a whole lot of good news for us. At this point he said that he wants to do more tests ($$$) to find out why DH's sperm count is low/morph bad. (doing another SA tomorrow morning, and an ultrasound on Friday plus the drew 5 vials of blood today) Won't be able to get back in with the doctor until Jan 12th. Also said that I shouldn't bother taking the clomid at this point b/c it's pretty unlikely that would help us right now.

DH's count was at 5 mil and the doctor wants to see it at 50 mil. DH's morph was about 50% normal 50% abnormal (not exactly but almost) The doctor said we're looking at around 6 to 9 more months until we "achieve" pg. I don't really know at this point if we're looking at going straight to some sort of ART or if there will be drugs first or what. Kinda in a holding pattern until we meet back with him in January.

Here's the doctor's website - seems to have a lot of info. http://www.male-infertility.md/index.shtml

Please change my stats to include:
Known issues: Male factor/low sperm count/morphology

[kemorr]

jjsanner - I think MDs worry about late ovulation both because the lining starts to break down and because the egg starts to get "old" the longer it takes to mature in the follicle. Obviously a pregnancy isn't impossible with late ovulation (hence your son) but it decreases your chances.

That being said, I think OB-Gyns are way too quick in prescribing Clomid to any and all who can't get pregnant. I had a similar feeling, my OB wanted me to try 3 cycles of Clomid and then refer me to an RE. She did some CD3 and 7 DPO blood work but that was all. I wasn't comfortable with this plan, so sent myself off to an RE (also after 7 months of TTC) and am glad I did, because I am still not pregnant and I could be 3 months behind if I stuck with her plan.

If I were you, I'd go to an RE, but then you're trying for #2, so at least you know you can get and stay pregnant and you may not want to be as aggressive.

Edited to add that she told me to "just relax!" And "people who finally quit trying and get on the adoption list get pregnant all the time." She also told me that she didn't have any concern about my ability to get pregnant (hah! How wrong she was!). These three comments made me very uncomfortable about her attitude to infertility.

[polkadot]

kemorr- yes i can see why you asked for a second opinion...and good for you that you have a plan...

we havent been trying for a year yet only 8 months so doc wants us to give it 3 more months and then she said she'd send DH for a SA.....i really wish it was sooner...but she saw my charts and is positive that i am oing which i am in agreement with so i guess i just have to wait it out for the next 3 months....

anybody have any info on the Sperm meets egg plan....i heard about it somewhere around here...thanks in advance....:D

[la_bride_2004]

katmg I am coming out of lurkdom to respond for you, since we have exactly the same issue and I know how rough it can be. Somehow we always expect that the fertility issue will be with us?

The good news is that many times male factor issues can be fixed. In our case (hey, DH's counts were even lower), they did run all the tests and found that DH had what was thought to be 3 varicoceles. His SCSA scores were really bad though. The RU (reproductive urologist) recommended varicocele repair surgery. My RE scared me into IVF/ICSI (he led me to believe my FSH was high, and it wasn't.) We did do IVF, and I overstimulated (OHSS)- so obviously I have plenty of eggs. ICSI worked wonders though, and everything fertilized, but due to the DFI, I only had chemical pregnancies.

So, we had the repair surgery in August, and already DH's counts are up 5 times, to the normal range. We don't know about the SCSA yet, but have hope.

I will not lie, it's been a rough road. I've had a hard time with all of it. At times I started disassociating myself, but the reality is, fertility is a team effort and it doesn't matter who has the "problem", it affects both of you.

Hope some of this helps! I don't have a happy ending yet, but I feel at least we are getting somewhere.

[katmg]

la - thanks so much - it's terrible that someone else has to go through this, but at the same time I'm glad I'm not alone. I was surfing last night trying to find out about male issues. I found a statistic that anything at 5 mil (DH's count) and under is considered infertile. :( Here I thought that needed to be improved but wasn't terrible. I don't think everything has hit me quite yet. I just have to keep thinking that there is a baby for us at the end of this road somewhere.

Oh, I'm not familiar with all the acronyms quite yet...what is SCSA? (Sperm count sperm analysis?)

[knoelani]

katmg~ I'm really sorry about the results. Take care of yourself and hopefully the other wonderful ladies here who have experienced this can help you out.

[marteneym]

Thea, Polkadot, and jjsanner {{HUGS}} Sorry Af found you!

Kat I am sorry to hear about your dh's sa. My dh had a moderate count and motility. Not horrible but enough to cause problems. He also has varicoceles. I know it can be discouraging. I hope they are able to come up with a plan for you. HUGS!

suz Don't lose hope yet. I didnt O until cd28 on 50mg. It could still happen. 100mg did the trick for me. I have o'ed cd21 and 22 on 100. Good luck!

UT I hope chlomid does the trick for you!

I got a positive OPK Sunday. We went in for our first IUi yesterday and had a temp jump today. Looks like I o'ed and everything was timed well. DH has varicoceles as I mentioned above and a cyst/blockage on the other side. He had a count of 30+mil and 30% motility at our 1st sa. This time his motility was up to 70%. We are very excited about that improvement. Hoping and praying the IUI worked. So I am 1dpo testing 12dpo christmas eve.

[DaniML]

katmg... So sorry to hear about the results. I know it's very discouraging. With all the things they can do in medicine today they will find out what's wrong and how to fix it. It's good that he seems to have a doc that knows what he's doing. (((((Hugs)))))

kemorr... I agree about the prescribing Clomid too quickly. I think they should take the time to figure out WHY it's not working right. My doc said we'll add Clomid if nothing else helps, but he wants to 'fix' my other problems first.
I think to tell someone in this situation to "just relax" is one of the most redicules things I've heard. If it was that easy we'd do it. I'm glad you took matters into your own hand.

la_bride_2004... that's great that the surgery has already helped so much!

marteneym... I'm sending you lots of sticky vibes!!! Wouldn't that be the best Christmas gift ever?!?!

UT... I hope the Clomid works for you!

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Well, I'm on CD31 today and have no signs of anything. No pregnancy and no PMS. This means that AF is at least another week or so out, probably 2. I usually get PMS signs about 1 1/2 weeks in advance. If nothing else, I just hope she decides to show before Christmas. With my luck she'll show right at Christmas and I'll have to deal with major cramping and the such.

[wonderousglance]

:D WE HAVE A PLAN!! WE HAVE A PLAN!!! :D

I met with my RE today to discuss the "next step". While my DH's sperm count was good, the volume of semen was really low. He was very concerned that this could be our problem. All of my tests are perfectly normal. He even looked at pictures from my laparoscopy & said I had beautiful ovaries! *blush* That being said we will be getting the LH tracking kit & next month on CD 11, I will start testing. When (if) we get a surge, we go in the next day for IUI! :D I am so excited & ready for this to happen! :) If I don't ovulate or the IUI doesn't work, we'll try again. One day at a time...

For my own record: CD 18

[marteneym]

wonderousglance That is exactly what we have just done. Good luck!

ETA: Thanks for the sticky vibes Dani.

[polkadot]

yeah for a plan...good luck to both of you guys....catch that eggie!!!!

[katmg]

Plan's are great! So glad your RE appt. went well Wonderous!

ETA: Cross-posted with you doorchick - Hopefully the IUI took and soon you'll be telling us about your BFP!

[knoelani]

wounderous Plans are great! I'm glad that you have one in place and are happy with it.

thedoorchickGood luck during the 2ww! Sounds like the IUI went well.

[julesp313]

Would you please move me out of "Expecting" and back to "Active Members" with the following stats:

julesp313
Me: 34
DH: 39
Married: March 2003
Charting: September 2003
TTC: December 2004
Issues: None known
BFP - 12/2005
M/C - 12/05 @ 6w

[DallasLady]

thedoorchick Good luck in the IUI!

marteneym I really hope you get a BFP for Christmas! What a wonderful gift that would be :D

julesp313 (((((HUGS))))) I am really sorry that you have to be back here with us :(

I am 12dpo from my 2nd IUI. I tested on 9dpo, BFN, and I am not going to test again. I am pretty certain this one was a bust as well. My lining was good, but I only had one follicle. DH's count was also good (50 million in the IUI sample). We discovered that my estrogen is a little low, which is why I ovulate late when I'm not on clomid.

I am really getting tired of TTC. I just want my life back. Everything has been centered on this, and now that we are going to an RE (and paying 100%) all our finances are devoted to it as well. I am so ready to just quit and move on. DH doesn't want to give up, he is still holding out hope. I think I have given up, which I know I shouldn't but I just don't see it ever happening for us.

We are not going back to the RE after this cycle. DH's sees it as us "taking a break" from it, I am ready to just forget it. His count has been getting consistently better, which means getting pg on our own is not out of the question. If it happens, it happens, but I am no longer holding my breath.

I just needed to get that out. Sorry if I am a downer :(

[knoelani]

jules~ I'm so sorry to see you back. Big hugs to you and DH and take care of yourself.

DallasLady~ I'm sorry too that this IUI was a bust. I totally understand how you're feeling and I hope you start feeling better soon. It's a hard journey on our emotions, our finances, our lives. Take care of yourself.

[DaniML]

jules.... So sorry to hear about your loss. ((((((Hugs))))))

DallasLady... The whole TTC experience can be so frustrating! I really hope you find peace about the whole situation, either way it works out.

Good luck to both of you, thedoorchick and wonderousglance!

[wonderousglance]

Jules - I am so sorry you are going through this. :( Please know you & your hubby are in my thoughts.

[katmg]

Jules - I am so sorry for your loss. You'll be in my thoughts.

Dallas - I'm sorry you're feeling so discouraged right now. I'm learning what a long road this can be. Don't feel bad about posting your feelings - we're here to support each other for the happy times and the not-so-happy times.

[Nigellas]

Jules - I'm so very sorry. :(

[polkadot]

jules- i am so sorry you and DH are going through this....you are in my thoughts.....

[ag05]

Jules - I am so sorry

[la_bride_2004]

(((jules))) I am so sorry for your loss.

katmg: two websites that may help you:

www.scsadiagnostics.com

http://www.malereproduction.com/education_index.html

I totally understand it takes a while to process. I had a mental block about the numbers for a long time too.

(((DallasLady)) I feel exactly the same way, so please know you aren't alone! After nearly 2 years and three m/c this year I am burned out.

[UTChick]

jules~I am so sorry about your loss. You are in my thoughts.

Dallas~I am sorry you are going through a hard time right now. You can share your feelings here any time. This process is not always an exciting and happy one. If you need a break, then take one and see how you feel about everything. We are here for you.

doorchick~Hope your IUI was a success!



DH finally went in yesterday for his SA. Now we just wait for results. I really hope everything comes back ok. If so, we move on to Clomid. Hopefully we will know something soon. How soon did you all get the SA results back?

[julesp313]

Thank you, everyone, for keeping me in your thoughts. I copied this from my LJ:

Yesterday was rough, obviously. I was bleeding heavily and cramping but not really any worse than a heavy AF. I had a good hard cry first thing in the morning with David and then I was OK, surprisingly. Went for a quantatative HCG draw in the morning and then spent the day hanging out at home with my dad. This morning, I went and saw my dr, who I love - he's so great at this sort of thing. The HCG confirmed I am/was pregnant but it was only 271, meaning my levels are dropping rapidly which is good only because that means this is a natural miscarriage and therefore I probably won't need a D&C, which is good. My progesterone levels were way too low, though - 1.9 and they should have been well over 20. So this was a progesterone problem, which explains why I was spotting the entire time. It is possible that if I'd gone in early and got an HCG, they would have been able to give me Prometrium but there's no guarantee that would have prevented the M/C so I'm not going to dwell on that "what if". Dr did a pelvic and confirmed that it wasn't a tubal pregnancy, which is good, and that things look normal. I'm going back in a week to have another exam and an ultrasound to confirm that I'm passing what I need to pass. We can TTC again after I have a normal period, which the dr said will probably be 4-6 weeks (for TTC, not for my period). Next time I get a BFP, I'm to call immediately for an HCG draw and to make an appt to see my dr the day after that - he'll put me on Prometrium if my progesterone levels indicate a need. He said that some dr's won't be proactive til after three M/C but that in his opinion, one M/C is too many so he wants me in immediately. I like that - I like the attitude that we're all working together to make sure the next pregnancy is a good one.

I'm honestly doing OK - not as happy as if I were still pg, of course, but I'm not devastated. I'm really just taking this as one of those things that happens more often than we would like to believe, and I know having a proactive dr and a proactive attitude going forward is going to be really good. I'm definitely coming back here to be an active member as even though we know we can get pg on our own, I'm still "SAI" and I obviously don't know how long it's going to take to get pg again. And this group is so helpful and supportive, I feel like I belong here more than any of the other TTC threads.

[CTs_Punkin]

Hi ladies, not a whole lot of time - but wanted to let you know that I'll be updating the site tonight - sorry I have been away & didn't have access to a computer.

I haven't really had much time to look back - but

Jules I'm very sorry for your loss... Hugs!

[marteneym]

Jules {{{Hugs}}} I am so sorry!

[Elenna]

Jules: I'm sorry this happened. You have a very good attitude about it.

I just talked to a nurse at our RE's office. She gave me the numbers for DH's S/A. They're mostly good. I'm not sure how to classify his S/A results until we can talk to the RE. The RE is on vacation and we won't be able to talk to her about the S/A results until after X-mas.

Count: 194 mil -- good. The nurse said they look for at least 40mil
Motility: 24% -- not so good. I think the nurse said they look for over 40%. But the nurse said his total concentration was 262mil when they normally just look for 20mil for this. The high concentration with that percentage means there are still a lot of mobiles. The RE will have to ellaborate on this for us.
Morphology: 9% normal -- not so good. The nurse said they look for 14%. She said 9% is what they call "Abnormal with a good prognosis". Again, the RE will have to talk to explain this more to us.

I can't wait to talk to the RE to see what she thinks of the results. I'm feeling good about them.

Threadmistress: Can you update me to say our S/A results are abnormal 9% morphology and low (24%) motility. Thanks.

[polkadot]

jules- sending you hugs....((((((HUGS))))))

[SAI Ladies]

I think I got everyone updated. Please double check your stats!

Thanks & have a great weekend.

[CTs_Punkin]

Well the U/S went well. I have a dominant follicle on the right side - so that is good good news... means the Clomid did what it is supposed to. She perscribed Estrogen to improve the lining - so hopefully that won't give me too many s/e - although I did get the dry cotton mouth last night... wolk up like I swallowed sawdust... so parched...

Blood work is scheduled for next Wed to see if I o'd and check the prog levels... so if this works it will be the first time I O'd since April.... YEAH!!!

[Alioop12345]

Jules- I am so sorry for your loss....you will be in my thouhts and prayers.


As for me...I went in today for CD3 U/S. I have 3 cycsts on my right ovary so this cycle is out. I am pretty disappointed. So, I am a low dose BCP to see if the cysts will go away and then next cycle, I will be on Estrogen, Viagra, and Gonal F...with Progesterone support. We'll see.... it feels like a long way away.

[marteneym]

Cts Congrats on your hopefully upcoming O. I am so glad the chlomid is working for you.

I am officially 4dpo with flat temps. My chart has never done this in the 2WW. I am on vacation all next week so hopefully I will come back after Christmas to annouce a BFP.
Have a MERRY CHRISTMAS!

[julesp313]

I'm doing well... I'm at work and it's frantic so that's keeping me busy. I'm feeling OK physically - I haven't had any cramping since the first day and now it's just like a heavy AF so that's bearable. Emotionally I'm doing OK too - I think everyone's waiting for me to have a meltdown but I don't know that I'm going to comply! I'm upset, of course, but I don't think I was ever truly accepting of this pregnancy - it never felt real and with the spotting from day 1, I think I always thought it was going to end in miscarriage. So maybe I'm not so upset because I subconsciously felt this was coming? I don't know - I'm trying not to self-analyze!

I'm on vacation starting tomorrow for two weeks, so my time on the boards will probably be a lot less. But I wish good things for everyone and I hope the holidays aren't too hard - I know this time of year can be very difficult to those of us dealing with what we're all dealing with.

[suzfuzsunflower]

We're about to leave to go to FL, but I just wanted to ask a few quick questions....

1. Today is CD 30 on a clomid cycle (50 mg). No O...at least as far as temps tell. I have not been to an RE so I haven't had monitoring. Could I have ovulated and it not be reflected in the temps? Is there any hope that at CD30 if I haven't ovulated with these drugs that I still could?

2. I have this intense fear that clomid is not going to work at all...even at 100 or 150. My body is so totally screwed. Anyway, what is usually the next step if clomid fails?

I'm planning on calling my doctor once we get back from FL to see about getting a referral to an RE. She's a wonderful doctor, is really proactive, and knowledgable, but if clomid isn't going to do it then I don't think she'll be able to help any further.

Thanks for your help! Enjoy the weekend everyone!

[kemorr]

Suz -
My very first Clomid cycle my temps were completely wacked out. Before Clomid, I was ALWAYS under 98 pre-O and ALWAYS over 98 post O. Without fail. Anyway, Clomid increases your temps dramatically and my entire chart was greater than 98 for the whole month. The only way that I knew that I had ovulated was because I was using the OvaCue fertility monitor, which is a machine that (1) tells you when you're going to ovulate with an oral sensor and (2) confirms that you have ovulated with a vaginal sensor. The machine confirmed that i ovulated but there was no way that I would have been able to determine that from my temps alone. In fact, my pre-O temps were higher than my first 5 post-O temps. This is why I stopped temping on Clomid - it was a waste of time for me. Anyhow, I just wanted to let you know that there is a chance that you have ovulated and that you couldn't determine it from your temps alone, IF your temps have been unusually high whilst on Clomid. If you're not going to go to an RE for monitoring, you might want to look into an OvaCue monitor to help you know what is going on. http://www.zetek.net/ It has always been 100% accurate for me. I don't use mine anymore because I'm moving onto IVF, but I'm not sure if I want to sell it just yet (they are expensive)...

Update on me, I took a HPT today, 10 days post my final IUI on injectibiles. BFN, of course. My DH was mad at me for testing so early, but I kinda knew what the result was going to be. I suffered from mild OHSS at the beginning of this 2 WW and my RE said that it would get worse if I was pregnant. Of course I feel 100% better and my bbs which were so sore I couldn't touch them last week are almost back to normal. Sigh, it is onto IVF for us...

[Lucy Van Pelt]

I just had my whole post all written out and lost it!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

Anyway, I am back from Florida. DH and I had a great time! It was nice to just be together and not be thinking about TTC 24 hours a day!

The Friday we left for vacation, I had to go in to the doc because I was still bleeding from my m/c 10 days earlier. He aspirated some of the tissue in my uterus and sent it to the lab to see if there was placental tissue which would help rule out the possibility of an ectopic pregnancy. There was and, as I found out when I returned, my HCG levels had finally dropped. The procedure hurt like hell. I was totally crying and squeezing DH's hand fo hard, I left little welt marks. Ugh - never want to go through that again. It was just awful. Luckily, I only cramped for about a day and the rest of my vacation was pain free - aside from one migraine and some hellish blisters from all the walking!

I went back to my RE on Wednesday and he decided to put me on Metformin to see if that helps things at all. Anyone have luck with that??

My usual RE retired about 6 weeks ago. My new Doctor, Dr. N, is really nice, but I just feel weird around him. I can't explain it. It just feels that even though he trys to explain everything more than my former doctor, he might as well be speaking a foreign language because I can't follow anything he says. I don't get it. I just don't feel comfortable around him, but I can't even give a good reason why. :confused:

Here's an update to my ststs:

11/05 BFP
11/05 m/c at 6 weeks
12/05 Metformin

Jules - I am so sorry to hear your news. *hugs*

[SAI Ladies]

Suz Sorry you haven't o'd yet. But many women don't respond to 50mg and have to up their dose and it goes on to work for them. Hang in there!

Kemorr Crossing all things for you - hoping you just tested too early - Sending you BFP vibes

Lucy Sorry you had to go through all that. Glad you were able to still enjoy your vacation. Weird about your new RE... hopefully you get more comfortable w/ him.

Updated all stats to here

[CTs_Punkin]

I was wondering for those of you who have/are on clomid - when did you O after your DR said that you had a good follicle on CD 12 / 13? I haven't had a + OPK yet and I have a Drs appt on Wed (CD19) for a blood draw to confim O.... Just curious.

Thanks!

[julesp313]

I'm on vacation! Yay! Am at home but it's nice to not have to go to the office or client sites. My dad's visiting from England so he and I are hanging out and doing stuff. Yesterday we managed to finally frame and hang a bunch of DH's movie posters so the house is starting to look lived in. We also bought a new sofa and love seat that will be delivered on Friday - our existing ones were third hand and are sagging more than my flabby ass so they need to go. We'll put the love seat in our bedroom and ditch the sofa.

M/C - still bleeding but it's tapering off. I'm hopeful that it will take care of itself and my appt on Thursday won't show a need for any intervention. Then we just wait for AF and then we get to start TTC again. I'm actually JOYFUL - can you believe it? Because even though this wasn't the happy ending we had hoped for, knowing that we CAN get pregnant is a huge thing and I'm just hoping beyond hope that this time it'll happen a little sooner than 11 months and we can have the ending we so, so wish for. :)

[gymwidow]

Hi ladies. Hope you don't mind me joining. I've been lurking for a while, but after my last wacky cycle, I think this might be a good place for me to be.

My stats:
ME: 29
DH: 29
Married since: 6/03
Off BCP since: 2/05
Charting since: 2/05
TTC since: 7/05
Known issues: PCOS diagnosed 9/05, HSG clear 10/05, SA normal 11/05
Treatment: 11/05: 50 mg Clomid = 1 good follie, late O ~CD20, short LP

While we only really started trying in July, in August I started testing for problems because I had six weeks of continuous bleeding. That led my doc to a diagnosis of PCOS, so we then went through the other required tests before I could get my hands on a Clomid script.

Last cycle I took Clomid from CD3-7, and then I think I O'd late around CD20. I couldn't tell exactly because my temps didn't go up right away, but a blood test on CD25 showed progesterone levels of 4.8, and another on CD28 showed levels of 9.1. However, that was just 3 days ago and AF arrived today. I have no idea what's going on, so I emailed my RE this morning to ask him to help me interpret things and recommend a course of action. When I first met him 2 weeks ago he said I could try Clomid alone for a few months if I want, or I could go right to IUI. Right now I'm leaning towards that, just to increase our chances. This roller coaster TTC ride is not a lot of fun so far and I've discovered that the emotions are tough to handle sometimes (as I'm sure you're all very aware!). So if we can use the technology out there to help us get pregnant faster ... well, I'm open to that!

TIA for letting me join your family. I hope this holiday season brings us all the presents we want the most and that our new years are filled with BFPs!

[DaniML]

Lucy ... I'm on Metformin, but this is only my first month on it. My doc did say that it was NOT a quick fix. I'm on Met for borderline diabetis & PCOS. When I asked him for a time line he expected about 6 months for my cycle to normalize and me to start ovulating on a regular basis again. Good luck with it. Just don't be disapointed if it doesn't do what you think it should in the 1st month. Also, I think if you're that uncomfortable with your new RE you might want to find a different one. I think RE/GYN is such an important doc that you need to be totally comfortalbe with him/her.

gymwidow... Welcome and hope your stay is a short one. The ladies here are all incredebly helpful and a wonderful support system!!!

Thread Mistress... I just noticed that I didn't add my married date. Ooops, can you add it please?
Married: 04/13/03

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I'm on CD 37 today and no sign of AF. Very frustrating.

[SAI Ladies]

Welcome Gymwidow!

Gotcha Dani!

[Lucy Van Pelt]

SIX MONTHS for results??? :eek: Oh jeez! Dr. N did say that I can take the Femara again when I get my next period...and if it's longer than 2 months, I can take the provera route if I want.

[DaniML]

Lucy... I'm not sure what your dx is. Like I said before, I have PCOS with border line diabetis. Because of that I don't ovulate on a regular basis. The Metformin is suppose to regulate my blood sugar, which in turn is suppose to help regulate my cycles and help me ovulate. But, for all that to take effect my doc said it can take up to 6 months. He did say that if that doesn't work we'll add Clomid, but he has seen great results with Metformin alone.

Good luck!!

[gymwidow]

Nothing doing here. CD2, heavier AF today, but no cramps so far which is nice. I have my CD3 bloodwork scheduled for tomorrow. I finally read through the materials the RE's office gave me last night and discovered that they do give an HCG injection shot to trigger O with their Clomid patients, which makes me VERY happy. I was worried I'd have another really late O this month. I wish I had seen the RE early enough last cycle to get in in time for that! Anyway, my timeline should be: CD3 bloodwork tomorrow, CD12 u/s next Friday the 30th, my trigger shot I'm guessing around Jan. 3 or so, and then hopefully O that week! Now I just need to talk to the doc about getting progesterone supplements for the 2WW. If my progesterone level was 9.1 on Friday and I got AF yesterday, well, something seems wrong there.

Dani, thanks, I've definitely seen the support and knowledge you guys share during my lurking days and I'm glad to be a part of the group now. Well, not "glad", but you know what I mean! ;)

[julesp313]

Gymwidow - welcome! I hope you'll find knowledge and support here - I think this collective group has more knowledge than a lot of the dr's out there!

Me - the bleeding has turned to brown spotting and my temps are dropping, which I'm taking as a good sign that this M/C is nearly finished and my body will start getting itself back on track. The dr said there's no reason to think that my cycles won't be completely back to normal after the M/C cycle, so I'm hoping he's entirely accurate with that information! I go back on Thursday for a follow-up and I'm hoping he'll say everything looks good.

[CTs_Punkin]

Welcome Gymwidow!
Jules Glad to hear it's almost over. Hoping that sticky BFP is right around the corner!!

As for me - still no O... I haven't done an OPK yet today - will probably after I get back from the airport. I haven't gotten a pos opk yet - but have a Drs appt for blood work tomorrow morning.

Question If you were on Clomid - what was the latest you O'd? Today is CD18 for me. I took it on CD 5-9

Thanks for your comments, it always helps!

[katmg]

Sorry I haven't been around much. DH and I have both been sick with sinus infections and then bronchitis. It's been super-fun around our house for the past week. :rolleyes: I'm waiting to get my period - should be here around Christmas. Can't do anything for the next cycle since DH's urologist can't see us until the 12th to give us the analysis of his results.

Welcome Gymwidow!

[gymwidow]

Jules, CTs Punkin, & katmg, thanks for the welcomes!

Jules, it does amaze me how some doctors seem so set in their thinking and how "little" they seem to know about the differences in each woman's cycle! My GYN told me that every woman's LP is always, always, always 14 days long. Which is definitely not what I've heard about on here! I'm so sorry that you had to suffer through a m/c and I hope you and your DH have a sticky pg very soon!

CTs Punkin, last month was my first on Clomid and it was really hard to pinpoint an exact O date, since my temps didn't rise until well after a blood test showed that I had in fact O'd. I guesstimated that my O date was right around CD20. My doc told me that it's most commont for women on Clomid to O around CD15-17.

katmg, how frustrating to have to wait! We went through that this fall. It took us 4 weeks, 3 doctors, and 2 SAs before we finally got our results. An entire cycle wasted right there!

[polkadot]

you know thats how i feel about every cycle...

It took us 4 weeks, 3 doctors, and 2 SAs before we finally got our results. An entire cycle wasted right there!

i dont understand doctors sometimes...i went to my new dr and she automatically suggested TCOYF and FF and charting so why oh why does she want us to try 3 more months ( we have been trying 8 months so far) it clearly says in the book she reccomended that if after 4-6 months of optimally timed BD and charting etc...you should be checked.,....well hello..we have been doing that....:rolleyes:

and you know i have heard many different people that doctors have said many weird things....such as....** just relax it will happen, stop trying it will happen, women always O on such and such day, or the best LP is always 14 days*** uhmmm no, not so much...

i really need to stop stressing but all of this is pissing me off...ok off my soapbox....

on to lurk...;)

[kemorr]

Well, BFN for me, 13 days post IUI. And, spot showed up last night, which is the one thing that I had thought we had managed to resolve, with the surgery and all the hormone therapy, but apparently not. We're moving onto IVF in 2006, so I probably won't be posting much here anymore, I'll mostly hang out in the IVF thread.

Goodluck everyone.

[polkadot]

kemorr- so sorry...best of luck to you...be sure to stop by and announce when you get your BFP...:p

[gymwidow]

Good morning ladies. CD3 here. I just had 3 vials of blood taken this morning and will find out the test results and hormone levels this afternoon. When the nurse calls she'll also let me know if the doc wants me to continue with 50mg of Clomid this month or move up to 100. Is it weird that I kind of hope they move me to 100? It seems like that would just increase our chances, but then who am I to know. They'll also schedule my u/s for the end of next week, either Friday or Saturday. Hopefully I'll be able to do the u/s and get my HCG shot at the same time. These $25 per visit copays (even for just bloodwork!) are starting to add up fast.

Last night I had the worst cramps of my entire life. I woke up at 2 am and was twisting and turning in agony. After about a half hour I gave up and went into our living room and got settled on the sofa with the cat, my heating pad, and a blanket. It took another hour before I was able to go back to bed. I ended up with only about 4 hours of sleep overall, so today I'm sure will feel terribly long. I already can't wait to go home and go to bed!

polkadot, it made me so angry to hear even a doctor tell me to just relax. And this guy is a great friend of the family! I'm so happy that my RE is completely 100% gung ho. He told me if I wanted to go right to IUI, he would be okay with it, but that if I want to try a couple of Clomid-only cycles first, that's fine, too. He said the only thing he would caution me against is moving straight to IVF without first trying other methods, which is fine by me. IVF will be a last option for us if everything else doesn't work first.

kemorr, good luck!

thedoorchick, thanks! I hope this IUI did it for you!

[julesp313]

CT - I've never used Clomid so I'm no help, I'm afraid... but thank you for the kind thoughts.
Kat - sorry to hear you're both sick... isn't that the worst? Hope you feel better soon!
Gymwidow - don't doctors sometimes make you wonder what sort of med school they went to? :rolleyes: Can you get drugs for the cramps? I'm thinking Valium might be nice... Failing that, it sounds like a combo of the heating pad and the feline heating pad might at least give you some relief!
Polkadot - relaxing is good but it's not going to make you pregnant, is it! That's always annoying to hear - um, sorry, but I have issues - I can relax til I melt and it's not going to help! Sheesh... :rolleyes:
Kemorr - I'm so sorry to hear about the result. I really wish you all the luck in the world with IVF and please do pop in and let us know how you're doing.
Doorchick - thanks, I think I may be nearly normal again. ;) Hope you get a good result when you're ready to test...

Me - I'm doing really well. Stopped bleeding entirely and we actually had sex! I know, it shouldn't be a major event, but we hadn't been there since I got my BFP (all that paranoia) so needless to say we were both kinda relieved! Now I have to wait for AF - I have no clue how long it might take, but I figure I'll temp anyway, just to see what's going on, and I'm charting with the M/C being CD1 (I know it's not a valid CD1 and it's not a valid chart, but I'm curious to see how my body reacts and recovers). Tomorrow I go to the doc's and will ask him if he can note on my chart that next time I get a BFP, they're to have me come in for a quantatative HCG draw immediately. I don't want to have to fight the nurse on this one. I'll also see if the dr can provide any insight into the likelihood of me getting AF soon - I don't know if there's a usual length of time between a MC and AF, but we'll see.

Apart from that, I'm enjoying my time off work and just looking forward to the holidays with the family. :)

[DaniML]

julesp... Glad to hear you're doing well! I just checked and after my m/c I had a 36 day cycle. Not to bad considering that since then I've had plenty of 39+ day cycles. Hope everything goes back to normal for you quickly.

kemorr... so sorry to hear about the BFN. Good luck to you!

gymwidow... Those co-payments do add up quickly!! Last year, during my m/c I had to keep going to the doc for betas (first to see if they were rising and it's a viable pregnancy, then to see if they were dropping after the methotraxate) and while I didn't have co-payments per se, my insurance only covered 80% of the labs. Hope this cycle is a good one for you!

polkadot... it's weird how some docs seem to be so histant to go to the next step! Hopefully your doc will come around and you can stop waiting around.

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Well, it's another 39 day cycle for me. AF showed today. This time my boobs didn't hurt before at all. I take this as a good sign. My boobs never got sore before AF up until about 3 years ago (when all my other problems started, more severe cramps and PMS, etc., etc.). So, maybe this means the Metformin is helping and my body is trying to go back to normal!!! Right now I just have cramps from h*ll and I'm super busy at work. All I want to do is curl up in a ball on the couch with some Pamprin or Midol and a heating pad!

[tigerest]

Hello ladies. Welcome new members! I hope everyone is doing ok.

Jules - I am so sorry to hear about your loss. :( You sound like you are doing pretty good considering. I am glad. I hope everything works itself out and you get PG again soon!


I had my last HSG yesterday, and unfortunately my tubes were STILL Blocked, no change at all. So that leaves us to either IVF or adoption. I have an appt with my RE on Friday to discuss our IVF options. Last time I spoke to him he suggested I do IVIG with the IVF. I really want to talk to him about the chances of me really getting PG with our IVF plan. If he thinks there is a good chance we will do the 3 cycle plan that they offer. If I am still not PG after, we will adopt, but most likely have to save up some money first.

I just really want to be done with this. But I figure I can handle 3 months of IVF and then we will be done trying for good.

Does IVF hurt? The HSG was terrible for me, from the moment they put the catheter in until he took it out. IVF can't be any worse than that can it?

[Lucy Van Pelt]

Well, everything has been decent with the metformin. I haven't had any of the side effects. I *thought* I was all done with my last m/c, but I started bleeding again on Tuesday!! I had stopped for about a week and then *boom*!! UGH! (Of course it happened at work, but luckily I was wearing dark colored jeans! :rolleyes: ) I called my doctor and they said my hcg level was reading at over 100 last week and that the bleeding is a good sign. It means my levels are FINALLY going down. I go in today for MORE blood work. I feel like a pin cushion.

Kemorr and Tigerest - sorry to hear of your results. Best of luck with IVF!

[angelgirl8]

sorry for coming out of lurkdom around here, but i wanted to answer tigerest's questions.

tigerest...i'm so sorry about the results of your HSG. as for your IVF pain questions, are you asking about the transfer? that really doesn't hurt more than just a normal pap smear. i had some cramping leftover from my retrieval (and the cramping pain of having tons of follicles in my ovaries) but the pain from those was nowhere near the pain from my HSG (and mine was not as bad as yours). as for the needles and everything...yeah, sometimes the shots hurt (mostly the intramuscular shots of progesterone at the end of the cycle) but again, not nearly as much as the HSG. good luck! and definitely stop in at the IVF thread...everyone there is amazing and so helpful.

[Patience]

Hi everyone! I've been a lurker for a couple of months, but I'm finally ready to join.

Patience
Me: 33
DH: 34
Married: 10/03
TTC: 12/04 (with charting)
Issue: Anovulatory cycles or very weak ovulation, delayed ovulation
Treatment: Acupuncture and Chinese herbs

My doctor suggested taking Clomid, but I'm still undecided. I think I'll continue with my acupuncture treatments for now. I've been doing acupuncture for 2 months and I actually ovulated last month (large temperature shift unlike the previous cycles).