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polkadot
12-21-2005, 07:53 PM
welcome patience.....you might wanna talk to Soulmate...she is around the family planning threads i know she believes in the herbs and accupuncture whole heartedly...good luck....:D

julesp313
12-22-2005, 09:02 AM
Well, as happens every single Christmas, I have a cold and strep throat. Last year I ended up in the ER on New Year's Day because I couldn't swallow so I'm hoping to avoid that this year by getting a pre-emptive Rx from my dr. I'm sure an OB/GYN can check my throat too, right? ;)

amychris03
12-22-2005, 09:20 AM
Coming out of lurkdom as well to answer Tigerests question...

If you do the natural IVF, I assume that means none of the needles.
Will they give you any medications to monitor your cycle or require
that you go on progesterone support? I'd ask that on friday at
the Dr's. Assuming not- the retrieval isn't so bad. I had some
cramping immediately after- but it went away as soon as I got
some meds. I only took Motrin I believe and felt much better.
Plus- I was mostly sore from having so many eggs- which should
not be a problem for you either. As for the procedure itself...
You are under anesthesia to get the egg out- so you don't
feel that part at all so it is quite nice =) For the transfer, I
didn't feel a darn thing- even with the cathetar in. It was over
so quickly. If you have any specific questions I can help you
with, don't hesitate to ask!!:)

tigerest
12-22-2005, 10:09 AM
angelgirl and amy - You guys are awesome, thanks!!! :) I haven't headed over to the IVF thread yet, I was sort of waiting to talk to my doc first, so we have a plan for sure. I am so glad I get to see him tomorrow!

tigerest
12-22-2005, 10:15 AM
Sorry one more question...

For those of you who have had an HSG, did you bleed a lot after?

They told me that I would have some spotting, and in the past I did for about a day, but I had it on Tuesday and today is Thursday and the bleeding seems to be increasing instead of decreasing. Its about medium AF flow and bright red. I am still having some cramping as well. Did this happen to anyone else? I emailed my doc because I was worried, but I wanted to check you you ladies too.

Thanks.

skb
12-22-2005, 10:44 AM
tigerest to answer you question.......

I found my HSG to be very painful. Following the procedure I had enough bright red blood to require a pad. I continued to spot for the next 4 days and needed panty-liners. On the 4th day it seemed to subside. I was uncomfortable for almost 1 week and took Aleve during that time. I still shake my head at the description, "similar to menstrual cramps." Whatever!!! My ObGyn performed the HSG and I was sure to tell him how I felt about it. Unfortunatly I will have to have a follow-up HSG....lucky me.

julesp313
12-22-2005, 11:32 AM
Tigerest - I think I'm the abnormal one when it comes to HSGs because I had no pain, no cramping, and only the tiniest bit of spotting afterwards. However, one of my friends had a really painful experience and I felt so bad for her because I'd told her how easy it was! I'm sorry you're having a rough time with it - the things we go through...

Me - I went to the dr's this morning. Everything is looking good, though the dr suspects I may have a couple of small fibroids. I had my previous dr think that and do an ultrasound and nothing was detected. Considering my cycles are very regular and I have very few cramps, my dr figured if there are indeed fibroids, they're too small to warrant removing and definitely shouldn't be an issue with future pregnancies. He said I should expect it to take a couple of months for my cycle to regulate and then we can start trying again. And he noted on my file that I am to go for a blood draw as soon as I get a positive on an HPT so that's good - if it was a progesterone issue, we can deal with it. So it's probably going to be February/March before we start trying again, and then we'll see how things go. I'm feeling pretty good, ready to enjoy the holidays and then get my flabby butt back to the gym and Weight Watchers and be as healthy as I can be for the baby we're going to have. :)

CTs_Punkin
12-22-2005, 01:11 PM
I wanted to stop by since I would guess many are headed away for the holidays tomorrow -

Happy Holidays!
Wishing you and your family a happy, healthy & prosperous New Year!!

polkadot
12-22-2005, 01:19 PM
ok...so i have a question about timing...

I usually O around day 18-20 so heres the question....Today is cycle day 14 for me. I want to make sure we dont miss any good days so the plan is to BD from now until 2 days after suspected O. Do you think we should BD everyday or every other day. I read in TCOYF that if you think there is a prob or if you have diagnosed sperm probs. then you should BD everyother day...So since we dont have any known problems do you think its a good idea to BD every day? Ok enough rambling....i need advice...:confused:

thanks in advanced :D

OK ETA: i was just checking out my insurance coverage and it covers NOTHING...pertaining to fertility...it doesnt even color the bloodwork. I am so bummed right now...i am going to have to check out DH's insurance and see what kind of coverage his plan offers....i hope its good...it was really exspensive to have us both on his insurance but it will be worth it if we have to have fertility treatment....i am hoping that its jsut taking a while for us but i am looking into all options.,....so another question? Whos insurance actually does cover fertility treatments??

thanks again

Asha
12-22-2005, 05:03 PM
i am sorry i have been mia. i am still around. i don't hang out much in the family planning section bc it makes me upset. recently, i have started getting more and more emotional about this. i so wanted to be able to tell my dh and my parents that i was pregnant for xmas. i think my parents have something up their sleeve to surprise me bc they feel really badly about our situation. i called to make another appointment with the gyn today, but they were closed today. will call back next week once the strike has settled down.

i really fear that something is wrong with me for many reasons. my aunt had a stroke bc of birth control pills and became infertile bc of them. my mom had an ovarian cyst in her late 20's and after that was never able to have kids. recently i have had very heavy periods. this may be tmi, but i also have been experiencing cramping during sex. in addition, i have been having gastrointestinal problems. part of me just thinks this is just me getting old, but deep down i think something is wrong with me. hence the reason, i need to go the gyn again. she didn't seem to think these were big issues last time i went, but i just don't know. am i being paranoid for thinking this way? my dh thinks i should go to a new dr. bc he is worried about these things too.

Patience
12-22-2005, 06:00 PM
Thanks for the welcome, polkadot. I've "spoken" to Soulmate briefly when she responded to my post in the Acupuncture thread. As for your BD question, I would say do it every day, but make sure you don't tire yourself out before O. ;)

Re: insurance question - Mine covers the testing for infertility, but nothing for the treatment. So, bloodwork is covered, but IUI, u/s, injectables, etc. are not covered. I don't understand why insurance would cover Viagra, but not infertility-related stuff! I envy you ladies who do get coverage for infertility treatments. I guess 2006 will be an expensive year for me (depending on how many types of treatment I need).

rebjc, I don't think you're paranoid. You need a doctor who will understand what you're going through. It can't hurt to get a second opinion, right?

julesp313: Glad to hear you're feeling better.

Happy holidays to everyone!

suzfuzsunflower
12-22-2005, 07:04 PM
rebjc - I'm sorry that you're having a difficult time right now. I really wanted to be pregnant by Christmas as well. If you think that something is wrong, you should definately go to the doctor. If you're not satisfied with what your dr. says, then getting a second opinion wouldn't hurt.

gator97
12-22-2005, 07:13 PM
rebjc-trust your gut. It took me 3 years and 3 doctors to get someone to listen to me about my concerns. I had the classic symptoms of endometriosis as well as a family history and it still took that long to be taken seriously. I got to the point where I became my own advocate and decided I would do whatever it took to find someone who would listen to me. I was diagnosed with stage 2-3 endometriosis and possible adenomyosis (endo in the uterine wall) through laparascopy in August.

gymwidow
12-23-2005, 08:07 AM
Bboooooooring CD5 here. AF seems to be packing her bags to leave, the Clomid is going just fine (no night sweats this time and my temps aren't as high), and I'm now just waiting till my CD11 u/s next Thursday. It seemed kind of early for me, but that's what the nurse said the doctor scheduled, so okay. I was hoping to get my HCG shot on the same day, but I kind of feel like it'll be too early and I'll have to go back a few days later. We'll see in a week!

jules, ooooh, Valium. ;) I'll have to ask about that next month (even though I hope there won't be a "next month"!). I'm so sorry you're sick again at the holidays. Definitely get some good drugs! I'm glad you had a pretty good checkup and that you're healing well. I hope you get regular again soon!

Dani, thanks. The copays are a PITA, but I remember how anxious I was last week when I was wondering first if I had O'd and then if my progesterone levels were high enough, and the peace of mind that came from the blood test results was worth $25 each time. I just keep reminding myself of that! I hope the Metformin is working for you and that your cramps went away!

tigerest, I'm sorry that IVF is your only option right now, but I hope that it works for you! I have a friend who is just starting the adoption process, so if I hear any tips or hints or anything from her, I'll pass them along! I also found my HSG to be incredibly painful, and I bled for about a week after. My GYN had told me previously that I have a very sensitive cervix that basically bleeds upon any touch, so I was kind of expecting it. I started bleeding the second he inserted the catheter. It was also bright red and light-to-medium flow. I called my doc after a few days of that and she said not to worry, but that if it didn't stop after a week to call her back. Luckily, it stopped right at a week!

Lucy, I'm glad that's a good sign that things are starting to return to normal.

Patience, welcome! I've heard some amazing things about acupuncture. I hope it works for you!

polkadot, my RE told me that the old thoughts of having to only BD every other day are outdated and that science shows that every day is fine if you want. Don't tire yourself out early, though! Maybe BD every other day till CD18 and then every day till you see a temp rise? I hope you get better insurance coverage with DH!

rebjc, I hope you're able to get in for an appt soon so you can put your mind at ease. I also started to just feel intuitively last summer that something wasn't quite right with my cycles and even though my doctor told me not to worry, that "it takes some time and I'm sure you'll be pregnant soon", I just knew I was off. I finally called to make an appt and sure enough, discovered that I had PCOS and would need help. I wanted to trust my doc and not bug him, but a friend kept after me till I finally just called and made an appt and I'm so glad she did!

julesp313
12-23-2005, 12:26 PM
I'm sweating... not only is it nearly 70 here, my dad and I just moved two sofas (one from downstairs to upstairs!) and I washed the floor in the family room in preparation for our new sofas to be delivered today. I can't wait - I've had hand-me-down sofas since I moved to the US nearly 12 years ago. Now we get brand spanking new ones!

Polkadot - my dr said to BD whenever we feel like it, though he "heartily recommends" trying to get at least once a day for two days prior to your temp rise and the day OF the temp rise. The cycle I got pg was the first time we'd actually achieved that so maybe there's some validity to it. As for insurance, mine covers all testing and diagnosis related to IF but not assisted reproduction (much like Patience).
Rebjc - be pushy! Seriously - you know that something is not quite right and for your peace of mind AND your health, you need a dr that will work with you to figure out what's going on. They're there to help you - make the appointment and get the answers you need.
Patience - thanks for the thoughts. :)
Suzfuz - the holidays are rough, aren't they? Here's hoping this is the last one we all go through without a baby on the way...
Gator - isn't it frustrating when you know something isn't right but the so-called medical experts don't think it's a big deal? Sheesh...
Gymwidow - glad the Clomid experience is better this time around - side effects are no fun, I'm sure!

Lucy Van Pelt
12-23-2005, 01:10 PM
I WANT TO SCREAM!!!

I called my RE just for the heck of it to check my HCG levels. I stopped bleeding agin so I figure they will be about zero or so. Nope - they went UP again! Only up a little from last week - they are 121, but still...WTF is going on??? The nurse is going to chat with my doc to see what they want to do...:mad: This is the longest m/c in history...

tigerest
12-23-2005, 04:23 PM
Thanks ladies for your replies! I met with my RE today and he said the same thing, that if it didn't stop after a week to give him a call.

In good news he did see an improvement. My tubes used to be filled with fluid and now they did not have fluid. Because of this I do not need to have another surgery to remove or cut them before IVF. I am thrilled. I did not want to have another surgery!!!!

I am feeling so much better after talking to him. HE has such great bedside manner, and is so patient with us. So I think we are starting this January. I call them on CD1. OMG!!!! We are doing natural IVF, or IVF with femara, so our chances are not as high as traditional IVF. But its better than 0 right.

So here we go.....

Patience
12-23-2005, 05:52 PM
Lucy Van Pelt - I'm so sorry you're going through this. :(

tigerest - Great news about not needing another surgery! I hope your IVF will be successful. It sounds like you're in good hands with your RE.

gymwidow - Thanks for the welcome. I'm going to try acupuncture for a few months and if I'm still not pregnant, then I'll move on to Clomid. BTW, what dosage of Clomid are you on? How many u/s will you have per cycle?

ag05
12-23-2005, 09:37 PM
Lucy - Sorry you are dealing with that. I know it has got to be frustrating.


Has anyone tried the ClearBlue Easy Digital OPKs? It gives you a smiley face when you reach your surge. I love it!

angelgirl8
12-24-2005, 06:48 AM
lucy...i'm so sorry you're going through all of this, still.

polkadot...my insurance (and most other people's, unfortunately) didn't cover any infertility treatments. i would talk to your RE's office, because the billing people are usually really helpful and can figure some things out. we had to pay for everything, but they didn't charge for the bloodwork if our insurance didn't pay for it.

the one thing i would tell you is that, no matter what your insurance says, submit every single bill you get for everything. surprisingly, sometimes they'll cover parts of procedures and stuff. you never know, so it's worth it to do the paperwork. it totally sucks that none of this is covered, though.

knoelani
12-24-2005, 12:27 PM
Welcome to all the new members, it's been busy around here!

polka~ my insurance convers 50% of the IUI procedure, that's it. If I'm going through an IUI cycle, then my insurance will cover 50% of my u/s monitoring appointments, but only if the dr's office codes it right. It does not cover any of the meds, the sperm wash, the infecteous disease screening (we got dh's insurance to cover that part of it for him), or trigger shot.

tiger~ hi there, I'm glad you came by with an update. I'm sorry about the tubes, but at least there seems to be a little bit of good news in there. Good luck moving forward with the IVF and so soon! Keep us updated!

Lucy~ I'm really sorry that you're still having to deal with this!

Merry Christmas everyone!

UTChick
12-24-2005, 01:23 PM
Lucy~I am so sorry you are still going through this.

ag05~I have never tried those, so I don't have any info for you.

rebjc~I agree about trusting your gut. I hope you can get some answers soon.


Well...I was supposed to start Clomid this week, but AF would never show. So, on a whim, I took an HPT this morning and I got a BFP! I absolutely cannot believe it. I've taken 3 now, so I am starting to believe it a little. We took the month off because of all the testing we were going through, so we didn't time anything, I didn't chart, etc. We just considered it a break. I am a little too nervous and shocked to be excited yet. I am just in shock. If it is ok, I am not ready to leave this group just yet, but wanted to share the news. Have a great weekend everyone!

jennylou
12-24-2005, 01:25 PM
kathy - delurking to say big congratulations! :D :D :D

gymwidow
12-24-2005, 05:01 PM
Happy Holidays everyone! CD6 and Day 4 of Clomid. AF is gone = yay no more weeks of spotting at a time. We've had a good pre-holiday and I even survived a trip to the mall to get a couple of last minute gifts. DH and I exchanged one thing already and are saving more for tomorrow.

Jules, ooh, new sofas! That's exciting. We just got our first "grown-up" (i.e., not leftover college scraps) furniture last month and I LOVE it. I can't wait to get new sofas next.

Lucy, how awful. I am so sorry! I hope you're able to get some answers soon.

tigerest, that is good news! I'm excited for you for your fresh start and I hope it goes well!

Patience, I'm taking 50 mg of Clomid and will have an u/s once a month, around CD11-13 to check my follie growth. I'll also have bloodwork on CD3 and around CD21.

ag05, a smiley? That's awesome! :)

knoelani, Merry Christmas to you too!

UTChick, OMG, how awesome!!!! Congratulations, that is such wonderful news and I'm so thrilled for you! What a merry Christmas present you just got!!! :D

knoelani
12-24-2005, 05:15 PM
UTchick Big congrats to you! That's a great Christmas present. I am now convinced we're going to win the rosebowl...I'm banking off of your good news :)

UTChick
12-24-2005, 09:30 PM
Thank you so much, Jenny, gymwidow, and knoelani. We are still very much in shock. I'm calling my doctor first thing Monday morning to do bloodwork and then maybe we will actually believe this has finally happened. Happy Holidays, everyone!

ag05
12-24-2005, 10:58 PM
UTChick - Congratulations!

Happy Holidays Yall.

tigerest
12-24-2005, 10:59 PM
Congrats UTchick! Thats awesome!!

Merry Christmas everyone!

Patience
12-25-2005, 11:56 AM
UTChick, congrats! I couldn't imagine a better Christmas present! :D

polkadot
12-25-2005, 07:31 PM
OMG!!!!!:eek: :eek:

kathy i am soooooooooo excited for you....congrats!!!!

UTChick
12-26-2005, 10:53 AM
Thank you so much, everyone. I tried calling my doctor this morning, but they aren't in the office today. DH really wants me to get bloodwork done because he read that sometimes when a woman O late in the cycle the uterine lining can already have begun to thin and he wants to know that this is a viable pg. I was amazed that he had been reading up on those kinds of things. I had never heard that. Anyone know if there is any weight to that? Anway, we have to be patient and wait until tomorrow to call the dr. again. Thanks again for all the support and well wishes, ladies.

ag05
12-26-2005, 11:59 AM
UTChick - I have not heard that. I have a late O too. Good luck tomorrow!

polkadot
12-26-2005, 04:04 PM
I O late too...but my dr said it wasnt anything to worry about unless it was very late O...hopes and prayers to you that this is it....:D

la_bride_2004
12-26-2005, 10:03 PM
Congrats UT chick!

The lining thing- well, they can really easily measure that. I'm a late O'er myslf, but don't have lining issues. Some people O late because their hormones aren't at optimal levels, and yes, this can cause lining issues. So I have heard of it.

Nigellas
12-27-2005, 06:15 AM
Oh, wow UTC - That's awesome! :D

poka, My insurance only covers diagnostic testing, but no treatments - However it does cover all of my drugs, even Gonal-F with only a $15 co-pay. DHs insurance covers 1/2 of all IF treatments and drugs. We ended up signing me up for both- Mine for the drug coverage, his for the procedure coverage.

And me? Santa brought me AF for Christmas... Seriously the 25th was CD 1. I'd have much preferred coal. :p

UTChick
12-27-2005, 07:17 AM
Thank you, Nigellas.

la_bride_2004~Thanks for the info. My designated fertility nurse isn't in this week, so they are going to have another nurse call me back later today to answer my questions.

gymwidow
12-27-2005, 08:14 AM
Hi everyone. I hope you guys had a great holiday weekend! We all know Kathy did! :D

Today is CD9 and I'm just waiting around for my u/s on Thursday and hopefully O soon after. DH and I are BDing just for fun, which is always nice. ;)

UTChick, I've read that before, but it doesn't necessarily have to be something to worry about! I'm sure you'll get answers from your doc.

Nigellas, ugh, I'm so sorry!

DaniML
12-27-2005, 12:04 PM
Congratulations, UTChick!!!

And a little belated...

Merry ChristmasEveryone!!

Elenna
12-27-2005, 12:04 PM
Congratulations, UTChick! What a wonderful X-mas present! Sending sticky vibes your way.

marteneym
12-27-2005, 12:26 PM
Just stopping in to update my stats and say AF arrived. Our 1st IUI failed. I will come back later to catch up on everyone.

Marteneym
Me: 23
DH: 27
Married since: 10/4/03
Off BCP since: 9/04
SWH since: 10/04
TTC since: 12/04
Fertility Blend cycles 4,5,6
Known issues: Delayed Ovulation, SA issues, Varicocele possible
9/05 Clomid 50mg
9/9 FSH and Rubella- NORMAL
9/12 SA ABNORMAL- count 30mil/
motility 30%
10/05 Clomid 100mg
11/05 Chlomid 100mg
12/12 IUI #1- failed
SA IMPROVED
count 30mil/Motility 70%
12/05 Chlomid 100mg

Lucy Van Pelt
12-27-2005, 09:53 PM
Congrats UTChick! What a fabulous present!!

I went back to the RE today. My betas are FINALLY going down. It was 63 earlier today down from the 120's last week. This is great news and I am relieved. The doctor then did an ultrasound and loandbehold he said it looks like I am about to ovulate any day. How weird is that?!?!? After checking my uterine lining, he suggested we NOT try to concieve this cycle and to give my body a break and we agreed. However, we did bd this morning so there's still a chance this cycle...The doctor gave me a cycle of bcp to start if I do get af this cycle and then I will start femara my next cycle.

marteneym
12-28-2005, 09:44 AM
I just read back through the last week I missed. SOunds like it has been a rough week around here. I dont have itme for so's, so here is a {{{GROUP HUG}}}

Congrats UT chick! WHat a wonderful Christmas present.

Today is cd3 and first day of chlomid for me.

ag05
12-28-2005, 09:40 PM
Nigellas, Marteney, and Doorchick - Sorry about AF.

gymwidow
12-29-2005, 12:40 PM
Hi ladies. Today is CD11 and I had an u/s this morning to check my follie growth. I am happy to report that my uterine lining is nice and thick and that there are two lovely little eggies sitting in my right ovary. :D They're not quite "ready" yet, so my doc wants me to wait till Monday and then come back for another u/s and my HCG trigger shot. I'm a little nervous about the shot - can anyone tell me what it's like? Big needle? Where do they give it? Does it hurt (more than a regular old shot)?

He also told me there's always a chance I could O early, so we should start BDing this weekend. I told him no problem! ;) I think we'll try to go tonight, Saturday, and then Monday-Wednesday, since it's likely I'll O on Tuesday after the shot. He said I can do an IUI on Tuesday if I want, but DH wants to wait at least another month or so before going that far.

thedoorchick, I'm so sorry. I hope this month goes by fast so you can get working on next month!

marteneym, I'm so sorry. I wish you much better luck this time around!

Lucy, that IS great news! I hope this cycle goes quickly for you so you can get started trying again.

UTChick
12-29-2005, 03:30 PM
Thanks, DaniML, Elenna, Lucy, and marteneym.

doorchick~Sorry to hear about the cyst. :( Hopefully this cycle will go by quickly for you so that you can get busy on the next one.

Lucy~I am glad to hear your news. I think it is great that you are going to give your body a little break. Here's looking forward to next month!

gymwidow~Fabulous news!


I got my beta results back today and the nurse says they are good (2797) and I am going in on Tues. for my 1st sonogram. I am starting to think this is real now. Still cautiously optimistic and a little nervous, but I hear that never really goes away. Thanks again for all the support, ladies. It really means a lot to me. :)

Patience
12-29-2005, 06:17 PM
marteneym: Sorry to hear that your last IUI didn't work. Good luck on this round of Clomid.

Lucy Van Pelt: Glad to hear that your betas finally went down. Take care of yourself this cycle and maybe you will get a wonderful surprise. ;)

thedoorchick: I'm sorry you have to deal with a cyst on top of getting AF. :(

gymwidow: Have fun BDing this weekend. We're almost cycle buddies (I'm on CD12 today). I was looking on my calendar and realized that I could possibly conceive on New Year's Eve! Wouldn't that be a fun story to tell? That you rang in 2006 with a bang! ;)

UTChick: I'm so happy for you!! Sticky vibes to you!!

It seems like I'm ready to O within the next 2-3 days (a little EWCM today). I think the acupuncture and herbs are regulating my cycle and helping to me ovulate.

Happy New Years everyone!

gymwidow
12-30-2005, 08:19 AM
Our BDfest began last night with my words to DH: "Sweetie, it's time to enter the trained monkey portion of the month. PERFORM!" :D

thedoorchick, thanks for the info! I feel better now. I know no matter what, it'll only last for a second, and it will be worth it, but I like to be prepared!

UTChick, that's awesome!

Patience, yup, this would definitely be a good way to start off the new year! I hope you see an O soon!

papergirl
12-30-2005, 08:47 AM
Sorry for joining and then going MIA. For several months I have been avoiding the TTC threads. Not being pregnant is hard but coming to the FP section just adds to my depression. But in all honesty, everything seems to add to my TTC-and-not-yet-pregnant-state-of-depression. I wish is didn’t. In an effort to reach cheerdom, or maybe just to lesson my icky-state-of-depression, I have taken a break from charting. It feels good. I can’t say with any certainty but I think I O’d or am O’ing. We did get a night or two of BD in but not nearly as much action as we usually aim for. I almost feel like, what’s the point? Good news is, I have an appointment to see an RE in mid-January. I am eager to forge ahead.


Punkin – Your avatar photo is too fun!

Jules – I am so sorry to hear that you had a m/c. I will keep you in my thoughts.

Polkadot – At this point it might be too late but we have been TTC for 8 months, however I told the doctor its been a year. Damn it, I want to be tested now! ;) At this point I have little faith that my results will change in the next three months so why put it off, you know?

Lucy – I’m sorry to hear you had a m/c. That alone is tough and to then have it prolonged must be frustrating. It sucks having to hear you go through this.

UTChick – A big congratulations to you!!

Gymwidow – That has to be the funniest BD line I have ever heard. Best wishes and sticky vibes.

gator97
12-30-2005, 09:01 AM
bumble--I'm going through the same thing. This month will be our 12th month of trying. I'm frustrated. . .and I was miserable last month. BD fest was no fun--it was stressful for both of us. I was devastated when I was not pregnant this month. I sat and sobbed for a long time. So, I'm not charting this month. And I'm trying to stay away from these boards. .. will be much easier when my vacation is over and I'm not at home as much. I've decided to transfer my obsessive efforts to getting some stuff done around the house.

best of luck to you.

wonderousglance
12-30-2005, 09:12 AM
Gator & Bumble- I can completely relate to how you are feeling. We have been ttc for almost 5 years. I can't tell you how many breaks we have taken. You need to take breaks. Otherwise this whole infertility bullcrap will really get to you. Best of luck to you. Enjoy the rest Gator. :)

ETA: Bumble, I missed your post. Sorry.

suzfuzsunflower
12-30-2005, 09:13 AM
will be much easier when my vacation is over and I'm not at home as much. I've decided to transfer my obsessive efforts to getting some stuff done around the house.



Gator - I feel the same way. It has been nice to have the two weeks off, but all of this extra time is just giving me more time to think about all of this. It will be good to go back to work, and have something to keep my mind off of all of this.

Have a good new year, everyone!

Asha
12-30-2005, 09:17 AM
bumble - i totally understand how you feel. it's hard for me to visit the pregnancy, family planning threads. then i don't know what to say to others bc i can't even make myself feel better.

polkadot
12-30-2005, 09:53 AM
to bumble and gator- we all understand what you are going through...we are all in the same boat. Different things work for different people...if you only stop by every once in a while thats ok...we will still love you...:D

I am 4 DPO...we bded alot more than usual this month b/c i was off for winter break...i really hope this is it....:p

UTChick
12-30-2005, 10:34 AM
gator & bumble~Delurking for a moment to say that I, too, understand the frustration and need to take a break. That is what I did last cycle. No charting, no temping, no OPKs, no timing of any kind. I can't tell you what a load off it was. I was so much more relaxed. DH and I got back to being intimate when/because we *wanted* to, not when/because we *needed* to. I just happened to get a BFP as a result, but even if I hadn't, the break would have been worth it to me emotionally. I don't know if it helps or hurts to hear this from me, but if you need a break, I highly recommend taking it.

papergirl
12-30-2005, 11:38 AM
Ladies, thanks for sharing your stories and emotions. I actually started my break last cycle and was hoping for the outcome UTChick got. You know you hear those stories of people trying and trying but nothing happening. They take a brake and bam! they’re pregnant. I was secretly hoping and wishing that would be me. It wasn’t. I really am happy to see it happen for someone else. I mean it when I say congratulations to you UTChick.

I took a break from the boards for similar reasons. Initially I found so much comfort talking to other woman. But eventually I think it added to my constant thoughts of TTC. I think about it way too much but I think the message boards were making an obsessive situation worse. Not good since I was getting really depressed about everything.

It doesn’t help that I had a m/c and would have been due in January. The closer that date get the sadder I have become. I really thought I would be pregnant again, which isn’t the case. I think I just need to keep crying, get it all out and when the day passes hopefully feel a little better about not having this “doom date” approaching.

Gator – I hear you. It’s hard to make BD fun when so much thought is going into it. For us the main issue is we are 1-2 times a week people. So when that time comes it gets old doing it for the fourth time when you really prefer two.

Wonderousglance – I won’t even pretend to understand what it is like to be TTC for 5 years. I can’t imagine the pain and sadness I would feel, I just know it would be enormous. I’m sorry the road has been so long.

Sunflower – This has been one of my easiest cycles because I’ve been obsessed with home shopping. It’s just one obsession replacing another but at least home shopping isn’t depressing. ;)

Rebjc – I remember you from WC. I was beebeck over there. I actually have a friend in real life who got pregnant right away and wasn’t too sure she wanted to be pregnant. It was just after my m/c and I was bitter over the whole situation. I know I’m happy but I can’t get past “why not me” to really feel happy. I had to see her in December and I really wanted to back out of the dinner date. Even though it’s been months since she announced it I just can’t get past my own sadness. It’s really hard.

Polkadot – Sending you sticky vibes.

Patience
12-30-2005, 06:11 PM
bumble & gator97 ~ I think all of us in this group understands your frustration. It's been very difficult for me in the last 6 months as I hear everyone else announce their pregnancies. I can see how obsessive this TTC journey can become. I've had "pity parties" where I cried about why it's so easy for everyone else but me. My friends IRL know about my struggle, but don't understand what I'm going through. That's why I joined this group because everyone here has been so supportive. No one is going to tell me "Relax and you'll get pregnant" :mad: I wish you ladies the best. Take care.

knoelani
12-30-2005, 10:40 PM
gator & bumble~ I just wanted to chime in as another one who's been taking a break and to say that I think it's done us some good. Of course the pain and sadness of dealing with IF doesn't go away, but I do think it helps to focus on other things in life for awhile. We've taken the last three months pretty much off of all things ttc or medically related and I really do think it helped our mentality and relationship. Although, I have to admit, I too secretly hoped that we'd get lucky on our break, even knowing that's next to impossible, and was devestated when this last cycle started. There's no magic to making all the emotions go away, but you can help the constant obsession sometimes by taking a step back. Good luck ladies!

UTchick~ Those are great beta numbers, congrats again!

Hi to all the other ladies and Happy New Year!

SAI Ladies
01-01-2006, 08:14 AM
Just wanted to say that I've updated things - sorry I've been MIA lately, but with the holidays - it was tough to find time.

Please check your information. I will be creating a new thread for 2006 in the next week, so if you have any changes or would like to see something added to the thread that's not in here, please post here or PM me if you would like privacy.

Thanks &
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!

CTs_Punkin
01-01-2006, 08:18 AM
Hi Ladies,
First a HUGE congrats to UT CHICK!! Happy & Healthy 9 months to you.
I've been lurking in here for the last week or so but couldn't really bring myself to post. I got the results from my blood work and I didn't O this cycle on clomid. The great follicle seems to have dried up and shrivled away... so I was just a little depressed. So for the holidays I decided to stop temping and just forget about it. I took my temp this morning and it was higher than it has been for a while. But of course no idea if I O'd or not. Which is fine, as if I O'd after when my DR gave me my results, the timing would have been terrible for a BFP too.

Anyhow, hope everyone has a great 2006 and we are in store for lots of BFPs!!

Lucy Van Pelt
01-01-2006, 06:46 PM
Just wanted to wish everyone a Happy new Year!! May we all get BFP's this year!

I posted earlier that I was taking a short break this cycle and how relieved I was. Well, I think I have maybe been even more crazed. It is so hard to hear the doc say I am going to ovulate "any day" and NOT go home and get busy. I tried to "entice" DH the next day...he wouldn't hear of it though and broke out the ol' condoms. :rolleyes:

suzfuzsunflower
01-02-2006, 10:18 AM
Please check your information. I will be creating a new thread for 2006 in the next week, so if you have any changes or would like to see something added to the thread that's not in here, please post here or PM me if you would like privacy.



suzfuzsunflower
Me: 24
DH: 24
Married: 08/09/2003
TTC: March 2005
Charting: March 2005
Known Issues: annovulatory cycles, random cycle length
10/05 - HSG shows blocked or partially blocked right tube
11/05 - 50mg clomid
01/06 - 100mg clomid


Happy New Year! Hoping that this year is good for us all...

MSH
01-02-2006, 12:33 PM
Well I thought I would join this little group as I could honestly need some support from others who know what it is like. I am sad to regonize so many of the names on the roster but hope we will all be blessed.

MSH
Me: 24
DH: 24
Married: August 2003
TTC: August 2003
Off BCP: Never on them
Charting: December 2003
12/04: DH had surgery to correct SA issue
02/05: PG!! - m/c'ed at 5w4d
04/05: PG!! - m/c'ed at 5w6d
08/05: CP
11/05: CP - was perscribed prog sup.
01/06: Waiting to have HSG done to make sure tubes are open and there are no other problems

polkadot
01-02-2006, 12:53 PM
hi ladies... welcome to MSH and suzfuzsunflower ! Hope your stay is short and sweet....

Well i am 6DPO...with very high temps and i have had this pinching then dull pain on my sides today...its very weird i am hoping that i am not imagining it and that its implant but i guess we will have to wait and see...i have a question about meds....i have been taking Tylenol Cold b/c I have been feeling so bad do you think that it will mess up my temps? Just wondering..b/c my temp was within the pattern this morning eventhough i didnt get more than 3 hours of sleep in a row...

thanks for any info...

:D

MSH
01-02-2006, 01:14 PM
hi ladies... welcome to MSH and suzfuzsunflower ! Hope your stay is short and sweet....

Well i am 6DPO...with very high temps and i have had this pinching then dull pain on my sides today...its very weird i am hoping that i am not imagining it and that its implant but i guess we will have to wait and see...i have a question about meds....i have been taking Tylenol Cold b/c I have been feeling so bad do you think that it will mess up my temps? Just wondering..b/c my temp was within the pattern this morning eventhough i didnt get more than 3 hours of sleep in a row...

thanks for any info...

:D

Thank you for the welcome. As for the Tylenol I am not sure if that would cause high temps, however I know a cold could. Do you have an old chart where you had a cold you could compare this one to?

Asha
01-02-2006, 01:24 PM
hey bumble! were you the one with the gorgeous wedding photos taken in the nyc?! i hope i am remembering correctly. lately my memory has been pretty bad.

Scooter
01-02-2006, 01:29 PM
/delurking
polkadot, Tylenol definitely causes high temps, so a combo of Tylenol Cold and feeling sick could be responsible for messed up temps.

Good luck to all of you this New Year. I hope this year brings you each closer to your dreams.

/back to lurking

polkadot
01-02-2006, 01:51 PM
ok i thought that tylenol would give me a high temp but if you look at my chart...its very close to yesterdays temp with no tylenol...does that make sense....and i took the tylenol at 10 pm last night so do you think it could have that much effect....

i guess i am really liking the high temps...oh well we will see what tomorrow brings...:rolleyes:

Scooter
01-02-2006, 02:11 PM
/delurking again

Polkadot, with charting it's always hard to say at the time, it'll be easier in retrospect. But remember if you've been feeling so under the weather, that can be responsible for the higher temp, too. You don't necessarily have to have a fever for a high temp--since we're talking about BBT, feeling sick can be enough to elevate it a few tenths of a degree. And then again, it could be just the regular hormones, I know my temps always went up higher on day 4 or 5. Hopefully the temps will stay high for you for a long time even after you feel better. :)

suzfuzsunflower
01-02-2006, 05:15 PM
polkadot - Just wanted to say that I hope that you're high temps. aren't due to being sick. I'm cheering for you! :)

CTs_Punkin, I'm sorry that this cycle on clomid didn't work for you, and that you're having a rough time. :( Didn't work for me, either. Do you have plans to try clomid again?

Welcome, MSH

I have a baby shower to go to on Sat., so I went to Babies R Us today. Thankfully I have only one more pregnant friend (after this one) that hasn't had a shower yet. Seriously...I have been invited to 5 showers in the past 4 months. I'm feeling better about this shower than I have some of the others (one of them wasn't trying, never wanted children, and wasn't happy to have the baby), but BR-us still isn't fun.

Have a good work week, everyone! I have to go back to work tomorrow. :(

---------------
Question: Most people do not know that we are TTC, and have been for a while. What do you say when those people ask when you're planning on having a baby? :(

gymwidow
01-02-2006, 05:33 PM
Well, I am -1DPO and am already nervous about my 2WW! I saw the RE today and had another u/s. It showed one mature egg at 24mm and a uterine lining of 9mm. All good! :D He told me I would for sure O on my own, so the HCG was totally optional, but with his agreement I went ahead and opted for it. Since last month we had a hard time pinpointing my O date and since I possibly had a very short LP, we both agreed that it would be good to know for sure this month exactly when I O'd. So I got the shot and will O tomorrow. Then I'll go in next Tuesday for 7DPO bloodwork and we'll see what my progesterone levels are, and go from there. He knows my concerns, but doesn't want to start me on any supps unless we know they're necessary. I'm trying to be patient and not jump the gun and take extra meds unless I need them. It's hard! :rolleyes:

bumble, I understand how you feel. I'm sure we all have at one point during this. We went through 3 months of testing before we were finally able to start treatment, and those were long hard months - I hated having to just wait and wait and not feel any closer to reaching our goal. I hope that your RE is proactive like mine and helps you come up with a good plan soon!

CTs Punkin, I am so sorry. Did you do an HCG trigger this cycle? Will your doc add that next month?

Lucy, I bet! I hope AF comes soon so you can start fresh.

MSH, welcome. I hope you're not here for long!

polkadot, crossing my fingers for you! I have no idea how meds or being sick affects temps; I'm sorry I'm not more help.

suzfuz, I'm glad your series of showers is almost over. I shopped last week for my niece and nephew and my heart was aching half the time as I wandered the baby section. DH was with me and said he felt the same.

"What to say when people ask about when we'll have a baby": We usually say hopefully soon, or that's our next big project now that we bought our house.

katmg
01-02-2006, 05:50 PM
Sorry I've been MIA! I've been away from my computer lately and it has been wonderful!

Since I was sick right before Christmas I didn't bother temping this cycle but I'm pretty sure that I'm Oing now or just before now. I'm not holding out too much hope though after getting DH's SA results back.

We go in to see his doctor Jan 12th, so that's our next "Find out what the hell is wrong" visit. :rolleyes: Hopefully he'll have some answers for us.

DallasLady
01-02-2006, 06:34 PM
Well I thought I would join this little group as I could honestly need some support from others who know what it is like. I am sad to regonize so many of the names on the roster but hope we will all be blessed.


Hi Natalie! I recognize you from the TTC thread over on WC. I'm glad you found your way over here. I also hope you don't have to stay too long.

As for me, we are taking a TTC break for a few months. Our second IUI was a bust and I am feeling pretty down about all this. Especially because DH's numbers were well within normal ranges for both IUI's (we are MFI). Our RE says that with MFI, sometimes things are good, sometimes things are bad. DH fluctutates a lot, anywhere from 11mil/mL to 100mil/mL.

I am not charting either, it stresses me out too much. I started O'ing late when we started seeing the RE, and I am sure it was stress related. So, I am relaxing and trying not to think about it. I used OPKs last week and I O'd on CD14 this month, which is great for me. So, I am keeping my fingers crossed that we can do this on our own.

DallasLady
01-02-2006, 06:38 PM
polkadot I have a baby shower to go to on Sat., so I went to Babies R Us today. Thankfully I have only one more pregnant friend (after this one) that hasn't had a shower yet. Seriously...I have been invited to 5 showers in the past 4 months. I'm feeling better about this shower than I have some of the others (one of them wasn't trying, never wanted children, and wasn't happy to have the baby), but BR-us still isn't fun.

You know, I am probably the oddball, but going to BRU or browsing the baby section at Target actually makes me feel better. It's as if for a few moments I can fool myself into thinking that I am actually looking at stuff for my baby. I get to enter my little made up reality for awhile. Though I suppose the next step is me headed for a padded room ;)

julesp313
01-02-2006, 09:11 PM
Argh, I've missed so much! I have to say congrats to UT Chick and sympathies and much understanding to everyone having a rough time of it. The holidays are not the greatest thing when you're dealing with IF issues...

We just got back from visiting friends and family in LA - note to self, don't drive from LA to Vegas in storms because it'll take you SEVEN frickin' hours. Ugh. Usually takes us four...

I'm clueless as to what's going on with my body. I had very definite EWCM a couple of days ago and much pinchy-cramping in the ovary region, but no temp rise to suggest I did in fact O. So I'm in the "WTF" time of this particular cycle... just wait and see, I guess.

CTs_Punkin
01-03-2006, 09:02 AM
MSH Just wanted to delurk to say welcome. I know how hard it must be to join these groups again after trying for so long. I welcome your experience and advice greatly. So welcome and I really do hope that your journey to motherhood starts very soon.

Lucy Van Pelt
01-03-2006, 09:53 AM
Ooooh - keeping my fingers crossed for you, gymwidow!

A question for my fellow metformin pals - Are you having issues with the side effects? I am having a horrible time with them and I want to quit taking it. DH, of course, said I should keep on it, but he's not the one feeling like holy hell and having diarrhea several times a day from it. I really HATE it and have tried to "forget" to take it a few times. (Un)Fortunately, DH is right on top of me to take all of my meds every day. Lucky me.

knoelani
01-03-2006, 09:57 AM
I feel like I've missed a lot in the last few days! Happy New Year everyone and hopefully 2006 will be a magical year for all of us.

Hi Natalie! I am so sorry to see you a part of the SAI ladies again, but I'm glad to "see" you if that makes any sense. Good luck with HSG.

Hangin'in
01-03-2006, 01:04 PM
Hi Natalie... sorry to see you here. Hope you don't stay long.

Question: Most people do not know that we are TTC, and have been for a while. What do you say when those people ask when you're planning on having a baby?

My smart ass answer is.... About 9 months after we get pregnant.

Cath
01-03-2006, 01:06 PM
Hi everyone –

I’ve primarily been lurking because I’m waiting for my next cycle to start to get back into things, but I’m keeping up with the thread.

Lucy – The side effects from the metformin do get better, eventually. Are you taking 500 mg, three times a day? The one thing I found to help when I first started taking it was to make sure I took it with protein. Peanut butter, lean meat, eggs, yogurt, milk - something. Also, until your body is more used to the metformin, try to avoid things that are hard to digest like salad. I’ve been taking met for about 16 months now and only occasionally have problems. I promise you, it does get better.

polkadot
01-03-2006, 01:57 PM
My smart ass answer is.... About 9 months after we get pregnant.

I am sooo gonna use that...great comeback!!!

Ladies i have a question....i have a horrible headcold/maybe sinus infection I cant get a dr appt, until tomorrow afternoon in the meanwhile i am dying b/c i am so congestied and my head is killing me....I am 7DPO...do you think taking Tylenol Cold will hurt anything....1. a baby if there is one or 2. implant if it would happen? or 3. it shouldnt hurt anything....

i called the dr. office and they said if i hadnt gotten a + HPT there was nothing to worry about...but i would like to be cautious...

thanks is advance...:D

tigerest
01-03-2006, 02:29 PM
Happy New Year Everyone!!! I am hoping its a lucky one for all of us!!!

I just barely caught up, but now I dont have much time for S.O's cuz of work! Darn work!

Welcome to all our new members, really wish you a short stay! :)

MSH - I remember you from the TTC with Charting thread, you were always very helpful!

Jules - HA! I drove from LA to Vegas over teh Holidays! Took us about 5 hours! But we missed the majority of the rain!

Polkadot - If you really want to play it safe I would stick to Benadryl. But Tylenol and Sudafed should be ok. My Dr always told me it was ok.

It used to really bother me when people asked. And for a while I had lots of good excuses like, when DH finishes school, or when we buy a car, or a house, but we are running out of excuses. At this point, I am almost ready just to tell people we cant have kids, but people mostly have stopped asking. I think they gave up after 3 years. Thank goodness.

Question: Has anyone taken Femara? I was hoping to get a little insight on it, should be starting it next month. Like what days do you take it one, what side affects are there, how much does it cost?

Thanks.....

katmg
01-03-2006, 02:32 PM
Question: Most people do not know that we are TTC, and have been for a while. What do you say when those people ask when you're planning on having a baby?

Sometimes, I say something to the effect of, "You can't always plan these things when you want to." That seems to let people know that we'd like to have kids, things aren't going exactly as planned and that I don't necessarily want to discuss it with them further. :D I'm to the point where I don't want to say something that would indicate that we don't want kids right now. I used to say things like, "Oh gee, we're still newlyweds." But that isn't true anymore - we're not newlyweds anymore, we DO want kids, we just don't have them yet.

Sorry, this just struck a cord with me today and it's something I struggle with since I seem to get asked that question a lot!

SAI Ladies
01-03-2006, 02:37 PM
Okay ladies... This thread is officially Closed!

Please check out our new 2006 thread!!

http://www.constantchatter.com/showthread.php?t=13442